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namaiki
6th August 2010, 04:03
I say about Vsync setting in popup menu:

http://s53.radikal.ru/i139/1008/36/5da3428b0497t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s53.radikal.ru/i139/1008/36/5da3428b0497.png.html)

If you disable that, you can get stuttering. If the screen's refresh rate is not matched to the video, then you will need ReClock.

Aleksoid1978
6th August 2010, 06:45
Sigh... I would so like to be able to watch my BBC HD caps in style... that is, without corruption or jerkyness.
Why do the MPC developers hate the BBC so much?

Upload a sample of file and screen what's wrong.

QQ
6th August 2010, 08:36
Hello everyone,

haven't been in ages here on this forum, but as I recall, it has always been great, and full of knowledgeable people!

Hopefully you'll be able to suggest the steps that I should take to solve my issue.

I'm looking for a definite way to make sure that my black/white points on screen are rendered correctly. The TV I'm watching my movies on doesn't have a great black level, so the last thing I want is to further increase it by incorrect level processing.

So, I need a way to check what my file input levels are, to check what levels my TV supports, and make sure that my rendering path doesn't screw up somewhere in between.

Problem is, that there is just so many combinations (I can use different renderers, different codecs, all with different settings, then there are NVIDIA setttings and so on), all giving different outputs, and no any kind of reference. Judging by eye is incorrect, because my eye always seems to like a darker image, but I don't want to compress it too much and loose dark tones either.

So my questions are:

1. Is there perhaps a tried and working rendering path, for say mkv/h.264 on Win7? (Haali splitter, CoreAVC, EVR/Haali/madVR?) What about nvidia settings?

2. Are there any reference videos/images to see if my black is truely black and if my dark/bright tones aren't compressed?

Thanks!

hoborg
6th August 2010, 08:50
Upload a sample of file and screen what's wrong.

If i am not wrong, BBC HD changed CBR to VBR. This is causing coruptions/frame droping not only in MPC-HC DXVA decoder, but PDVD10 have exactly same problem, only Win7 MS DXVA video decoder working fine. SW decoders (FFMpeg based, PDVD with DXVA off) working without problems too.

Here is the sample (http://www.watkinson.me/motd.rar).

Sebastiii
6th August 2010, 12:10
Hi :)

Aleksoid has made a very good fix for the BD seamless branching movie length problem in the MPC MPEG splitter
But there now is a problem with seeking, i have made an ugly hack by commenting out some lines of code, someone will have to look at it because in its current state it probably cannot be committed with this patch however, seeking works for both branching and non branching.
You can find the link for Filter splitter MPEG in Debug version and Release version and the patch file.

Source .diff file (http://www.mediafire.com/?k5xz4joblc4c2pu)
Release Filter (http://www.mediafire.com/?xcwpir0ng82h5r9)
Debug Filter (http://www.mediafire.com/?cn23ued7i0ao2iq)
MPC-HC Build x86 (http://www.mediafire.com/?66ry0pr719w4ubc)

Can you test on your side ?
Cheers,
Seb.

Hi,

Anybody have test ?
Cheers,
Seb.

BibiCode
6th August 2010, 12:18
If you disable that, you can get stuttering. If the screen's refresh rate is not matched to the video, then you will need ReClock.

Tried those, still no go

madshi
6th August 2010, 13:37
@devs:

we're working on defining a new media type (GUID + structure), with the main purpose being to connect 3D splitters, decoders and renderers. If you're interested, please post your feedback here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156051

Aleksoid1978
6th August 2010, 23:08
If i am not wrong, BBC HD changed CBR to VBR. This is causing coruptions/frame droping not only in MPC-HC DXVA decoder, but PDVD10 have exactly same problem, only Win7 MS DXVA video decoder working fine. SW decoders (FFMpeg based, PDVD with DXVA off) working without problems too.

Here is the sample (http://www.watkinson.me/motd.rar).

Play with MPC Video Decoder+DXVA - and no corruption and drop frame.

hoborg
6th August 2010, 23:18
Play with MPC Video Decoder+DXVA - and no corruption and drop frame.

...you are right! Looks like something was changed since i try it last time.

Momber
7th August 2010, 02:34
Upload a sample of file and screen what's wrong.
Oh come on. Not again. How many more samples do you need?
The problem has been known for months.

namaiki
7th August 2010, 02:37
"Play with MPC Video Decoder+DXVA - and no corruption and drop frame."
"...you are right! Looks like something was changed since i try it last time."

Momber: Seems it was fixed, or at the very least, both Aleksoid1978 and hoborg cannot reproduce the issue (with the latest builds?).

Snowknight26
7th August 2010, 05:23
Play with MPC Video Decoder+DXVA - and no corruption and drop frame.

And yet this sample (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1412577&postcount=13360) still crashes MPC-HC x64 and there's corruption visible with DXVA in the 32-bit version.

8ternity
7th August 2010, 08:09
Hello, can anyone add this in the first post of this thead. I have build that icone for Media Player Classic Home Cinema, originally beta created for AVStoDVD, i just decide to modifiy for my Media Player Classic wich is under my Xwindows dock and icon quality is poor originally, so i create that one and also add the title for MPC-HC.

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/mpcHC.png

It's under .PNG extension, i have it in .ICO but Photobucket doesn't accept .ICO. I will edit and add it by rapidshare link.

Media Player Classic Home Cinema .ICO
All Windows including Vista/7
http://rapidshare.com/files/411524066/MPC-HC.ico

Media Player Classic .ICO
All Windows including Vista/7
http://rapidshare.com/files/411524196/MPC.ico

8ternity
7th August 2010, 08:20
Hello,

I've got this error while starting a play back for a m2ts 1080P video.

i have an gigabyte HD5750 1GB with ati stream, etc...

Installed with Windows 7 profesionnal 64bit;

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/error_mpchc.jpg

The video starts well after that. The status down it say "Playing DXVA". If i activate shader, it works.

patch1
7th August 2010, 08:36
Hello,

I've got this error while starting a play back

Installing DIRECTX End-User Runtime to the version 9.29.1962 ( 2010.06.07 ) makes a very similar error go away in W7-32. I assume you have already done that though :)

XhmikosR
7th August 2010, 09:58
And yet this sample (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1412577&postcount=13360) still crashes MPC-HC x64 and there's corruption visible with DXVA in the 32-bit version.

How about these builds?

EDIT: Try r2212.

Also, does the same happen with ffdshow's DXVA?

Hello, can anyone add this in the first post of this thead. I have build that icone for Media Player Classic Home Cinema, originally beta created for AVStoDVD, i just decide to modifiy for my Media Player Classic wich is under my Xwindows dock and icon quality is poor originally, so i create that one and also add the title for MPC-HC.

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/mpcHC.png

It's under .PNG extension, i have it in .ICO but Photobucket doesn't accept .ICO. I will edit and add it by rapidshare link.

Media Player Classic Home Cinema .ICO
All Windows including Vista/7
http://rapidshare.com/files/411524066/MPC-HC.ico

Media Player Classic .ICO
All Windows including Vista/7
http://rapidshare.com/files/411524196/MPC.ico

Personally I do not like it since the small icon does not look very well. And this change has to be approved by most of the users otherwise we'll have 10 posts per day by people complaining.

Hello,

I've got this error while starting a play back for a m2ts 1080P video.

i have an gigabyte HD5750 1GB with ati stream, etc...

Installed with Windows 7 profesionnal 64bit;

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/error_mpchc.jpg

The video starts well after that. The status down it say "Playing DXVA". If i activate shader, it works.

I still don't understand why do people do not get the meaning of the MessageBox. It's self explanatory: ...make sure to install the latest DirectX End-User Runtime.

Unity
7th August 2010, 10:03
And yet this sample (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1412577&postcount=13360) still crashes MPC-HC x64 and there's corruption visible with DXVA in the 32-bit version.

The sample is playing nicely here.

No corruption at all with a 32 bits windows 7 with this sample on my system and MPC HC 1.3.2210.0
from XhmikosR regular build.

Same results with the above test build.

Windows 7 home premium 32 bits
Intel Core2duo 8400.
Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX with 258.96 drivers.

vBm
7th August 2010, 11:48
Using exactly the same sample MPC-HC 1.3.2210.0 crashes for me. (using regular XhmikosR's build)


(Operating system) Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise 32-bit, version 6.1.7600 (67 processes running, 1.81GB free RAM, installed 8w 4d 21h 21m 22s ago, 4d 12h 17m 19s uptime, 4w 2d 15h 41m 31s uptime record)
(CPU 1) Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (8192KB L2 Cache, LGA775) @ 2394MHz (335MHz FSB), 3% load
(Video controller 1) NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (Processor: GeForce 8800 GT), 1GB, 1680x1050x32, 59Hz, driver version: 8.17.12.5896


When using debug build


Unhandled exception at 0x013d7218 in mpc-hc.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x0f25c000.

this is from call stack

> mpc-hc.exe!memcpy(unsigned char * dst=0x09380159, unsigned char * src=0x0f24013e, unsigned long count=4294967294) Line 250 Asm

8ternity
7th August 2010, 13:33
Personally I do not like it since the small icon does not look very well. And this change has to be approved by most of the users otherwise we'll have 10 posts per day by people complaining.



I still don't understand why do people do not get the meaning of the MessageBox. It's self explanatory: ...make sure to install the latest DirectX End-User Runtime.

1rst: Okay for the icon! I just installed MPC-HC and the icon is in better resolution then the MPC.

2nd: I understand why your answer is strict, but you must understand that we are under windows 7 and it used directx 11. How come can we think adding older directx 9 updates under a directx 11 structure? It's like install windows xp under windows 7 os. I understand that some games is not running under directx 11, also directx 10.

Normally i was installing directx latest updates but i just forgot to install it. I just install a new SSD drive and not finished to install everything. So excuse me if you are too tired to repeat and repeat again to everyone, but i was someone having great knowledges in computing and for newbies can't understand the logically about directx 9 under 10/11 version updates, you should add a comments in your first post. It's not a complaint, but a constructive suggestion.

Thanks for your replies,
8ternity

Sebastiii
7th August 2010, 14:34
Hi,

Thank you Aleksoid that commit patch for BD Seamless for VC-1:)
I hope it's working for all,
Cheers,
Seb.

Kado
7th August 2010, 15:39
@8ternity

The DirectX runtime updates or instals the libraries to their latest revision, there is no package only for dx9, 10 or 11. It's unified, just like nvidia drivers, one driver package for several gpu generations. Also MPC-HC uses DX9 libraries like there's games that use DX9, 10 or 11.
The package updates directx according to your needs. Click here for the web installer (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en).

@XhmikosR

Thanks for the fresh builds mate!

BibiCode
7th August 2010, 16:57
When I use the ClearVideo (Intel's DXVA Version) (Because I get jitters usind nvidia or Even CUDA.

I get these coloured cubes with mpc's decoder. And I get none if I put a microsoft decoder filter.

do you know why ?

view attached images

Snowknight26
7th August 2010, 18:05
Both 32- and 64-bit builds crash when playing this sample (http://stfcc.org/misc/bbc2.sample2.ts). The first crash when subtitles are enabled in /src/Subtitles/Rasterizer.cpp:
> mpc-hc.exe!pixmix_sse2(unsigned long * dst, unsigned long color, unsigned long alpha) Line 880 + 0x3 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!Rasterizer::FillSolidRect(SubPicDesc & spd, int x, int y, int nWidth, int nHeight, unsigned long lColor) Line 2040 + 0x15 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CompositionObject::Dvb4PixelsCodeString(SubPicDesc & spd, CGolombBuffer & gb, short & nX, short & nY) Line 347 C++
mpc-hc.exe!CompositionObject::DvbRenderField(SubPicDesc & spd, CGolombBuffer & gb, short nXStart, short nYStart, short nLength) Line 189 C++
mpc-hc.exe!CompositionObject::RenderDvb(SubPicDesc & spd, short nX, short nY) Line 166 C++
mpc-hc.exe!CDVBSub::Render(SubPicDesc & spd, __int64 rt, tagRECT & bbox) Line 331 C++
mpc-hc.exe!CRenderedHdmvSubtitle::Render(SubPicDesc & spd, __int64 rt, double fps, tagRECT & bbox) Line 101 + 0x2e bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CSubPicQueueImpl::RenderTo(ISubPic * pSubPic, __int64 rtStart, __int64 rtStop, double fps, int bIsAnimated) Line 123 + 0x80 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CSubPicQueue::ThreadProc() Line 480 + 0x44 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CAMThread::InitialThreadProc(void * pv) Line 123 + 0xe bytes C++
kernel32.dll!74d43677()
[Frames below may be incorrect and/or missing, no symbols loaded for kernel32.dll]
ntdll.dll!77199d42()
ntdll.dll!77199d15()
The second is when subtitles are disabled:
> mpc-hc.exe!memcpy(unsigned char * dst, unsigned char * src, unsigned long count) Line 250 Asm
mpc-hc.exe!CDXVADecoderH264::CopyBitstream(unsigned char * pDXVABuffer, unsigned char * pBuffer, unsigned int & nSize) Line 153 + 0x1e bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CDXVADecoder::AddExecuteBuffer(unsigned long CompressedBufferType, unsigned int nSize, void * pBuffer, unsigned int * pRealSize) Line 271 + 0x1b bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CDXVADecoderH264::DecodeFrame(unsigned char * pDataIn, unsigned int nSize, __int64 rtStart, __int64 rtStop) Line 254 + 0x16 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CMPCVideoDecFilter::Transform(IMediaSample * pIn) Line 1890 + 0x35 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CBaseVideoFilter::Receive(IMediaSample * pIn) Line 107 + 0x13 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CTransformInputPin::Receive(IMediaSample * pSample) Line 763 + 0x19 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CBaseOutputPin::Deliver(IMediaSample * pSample) Line 2695 + 0x20 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CBaseSplitterOutputPin::Deliver(IMediaSample * pSample) Line 621 C++
mpc-hc.exe!CBaseSplitterOutputPin::DeliverPacket(ATL::CAutoPtr<Packet> p) Line 582 + 0x18 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CMpegSplitterOutputPin::DeliverPacket(ATL::CAutoPtr<Packet> p) Line 1411 + 0x20 bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CBaseSplitterOutputPin::ThreadProc() Line 455 + 0x3b bytes C++
mpc-hc.exe!CAMThread::InitialThreadProc(void * pv) Line 123 + 0xe bytes C++
kernel32.dll!74d43677()
[Frames below may be incorrect and/or missing, no symbols loaded for kernel32.dll]
ntdll.dll!77199d42()
ntdll.dll!77199d15()
This second crash also happens with this first sample (http://stfcc.org/misc/bbc2.sample.ts) as well. I'll add these issues to the bug tracker when I'm less lazy.

namaiki
8th August 2010, 10:27
When I use the ClearVideo (Intel's DXVA Version) (Because I get jitters usind nvidia or Even CUDA.

I get these coloured cubes with mpc's decoder. And I get none if I put a microsoft decoder filter.

do you know why ?

view attached images
Known issue: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/168

Current solution: Use the MS decoder for DXVA, or use a software decoder. By the way, you are not using the CUDA thing in CoreAVC unless you have a nVidia graphics card. What exactly do you mean by jitters? Do you mean that there is lag?

Matching_Mole
8th August 2010, 11:59
Hi all,

Thank you very much Xhmikosr and Aleksoid because you currently fix a lot of issue in MPC which is very great!! Thank you very much!

Aleksoid, you seems to fix a lot of issue related to the BD, can you think you can fix also the issue related to the wrong VC1 framerate using external decoder? It's related to the fact that when we use external VC1 decoder, the splitter send the wrong framerate to the renderer and so the playback is jerky. With the MPC EVR custom renderer (as Madvr it seems now) a hack have been implemented but it is not present with the EVR sync.

hajj_3
8th August 2010, 16:58
MPC-HC beeps when i close it in build v2210, thought i'd let you guys know to remove this as its very annoying.

XhmikosR
8th August 2010, 17:05
MPC-HC beeps when i close it in build v2210, thought i'd let you guys know to remove this as its very annoying.

I wonder, is it so hard for you to just open and read a txt file which is in the exact same place as the .7z or the .exe file you downloaded? I'm not saying to search this same thread before posting cause I know that's very hard.:p

ADude
8th August 2010, 21:01
So what is the latest reasonably stable version ? There hasn't a build uploaded to the Russian site since 2099...but is there one slightly earlier that is a little more stable ?

XhmikosR
8th August 2010, 21:06
Stable is what you call stable. xvidvideo.ru isn't the official mpc-hc site, it just hosts nightly builds. Alexins, the person who owns xvidvideo.ru is on vacation. He should be back soon though.

ADude
8th August 2010, 22:25
Stable is what you call stable.
In the case of MPC-HC, I would say that "stable" is a version where two or more people do not report the same major problem. (In other words, any report of a major problem is not confirmed by any other person.)

"Major" problem is one that prevents use of the program for a particular group of files (rather than just some unusual aspect of one file). ("Minor" problem would be something like reddish tinge to text, or increased judder.)

For example, 1503 through at least 1557 are not stable (due to double image problem with xvid), 1489 seems stable (although I have seen some problem reports state "since 1453")... prior to that, 1043 is the most stable version, perhaps the most stable version ever. The "official stable version" 1249 is certainly not one of the more stable versions...

betaking
9th August 2010, 04:12
Hi.to all mpc-hc dev.can put this words to MPC-HC string?
"The 'Save Image' and 'Save Thumbnails' functions do not work with the default video renderer for RealMedia.\nSelect one of the DirectX renderers for RealMedia in MPC's output options and reopen the file."
"The 'Save Image' and 'Save Thumbnails' functions do not work with the default video renderer for QuickTime.\nSelect one of the DirectX renderers for QuickTime in MPC's output options and reopen the file."
"The 'Save Image' and 'Save Thumbnails' functions do not work for Shockwave files."
"The 'Save Image' and 'Save Thumbnails' functions do not work with the Overlay Mixer video renderer.\nChange the video renderer in MPC's output options and reopen the file."b

cafevincent
9th August 2010, 10:59
I just released a "fix" for the crippled playlist functionality of MPC-HC, read more here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1424502#post1424502).

arty
9th August 2010, 17:37
dear developers! ;)

still no chance for a setting in mpchc to priorize external (srt) subtitle over internal ? (mkv)

the only thing why I can't use mpchc on my htpc is the annoying 'press or not to press' dilemma: if there is no internal subtitle, I switch off subtitles. if there is internal subtitle(s) I miss the first lines while switching ...

thank you anyway for this great palyer :)

QQ
9th August 2010, 18:02
Downloading a subtitle from subtitle database does not save it to disk. Is this by design?

DigitalLF
9th August 2010, 20:58
BUG REPORT: open ANY flac audio file... and MPC-HC crash with ffdshow audio... but with internal decoder its ok.

can anyone else confirm this?

it might be the combo or it could just be ffdshow... but could anyone help me test this ?

wOxxOm
10th August 2010, 06:41
still no chance for a setting in mpchc to priorize external (srt) subtitle over internal ? (mkv)
I just set subs priority (Options->playback) to ENG and rename extsubs as VidFileName.LANG.ext, e.g. SomeVideoFile.ENG.ass. Of course it doesn't have to be ENG only. You can choose whatever letters you like.

ryrynz
10th August 2010, 08:03
Using ffdshow 3526 msvc 2008 and MPC 2217 and no crash with ffdshow playing flac.

hoborg
10th August 2010, 08:52
Just downloaded "MPC-HC_r2220_x86.7z" xhmikosr msvc2008 build and it crashing when i try to play anything.

EDIT:
Last working revision is "MPC-HC_r2212_x86.7z".

XhmikosR
10th August 2010, 13:37
It's a problem on your side, no crashes here.

hoborg
10th August 2010, 13:45
It's a problem on your side, no crashes here.

:) Nice, what i can do to identify source of problem?
I have only stupid Intel Atom CPU and Intel i945G0 GPU, DirectX is latest, WinXP SP3.

It crashed when i hit play - MPC-HC window is not resized to video resolution.

I tryed to disable all internal filters, still crash. Delete registry key, various media MP3, AVI, MKV, all crash. Playing them in Graphstudio is working, so this must be connected directly to MPC-HC player code.

No crash at all on older versions.

I bet it will be working home on Win7...

XhmikosR
10th August 2010, 13:50
Sorry, I have no idea. You will have to figure it out yourself and fix your system.

hoborg
10th August 2010, 13:52
Sorry, I have no idea. You will have to figure it out yourself and fix your system.

Fix my system?
Ha, ha, "fix" is to use older revision :)

XhmikosR
10th August 2010, 13:54
Laugh as much as you can, since no one else can reproduce your problem, then it's something on your side. So, sure, do whatever works for you.

hoborg
10th August 2010, 14:07
OK, problem located, it was "DirectShowSpy.dll" that causing new MPC-HC revisions to crash, unregistering it and all is OK now.

Strange.

QQ
10th August 2010, 16:36
Downloading a subtitle from subtitle database does not save it to disk. Is this by design?

bump?

DigitalLF
10th August 2010, 18:03
XhmikosR does MPC-HC crash upon load of a .FLAC file when using ffdshow and not the internal decoder for you?

Momber
10th August 2010, 19:11
Momber: Seems it was fixed, or at the very least, both Aleksoid1978 and hoborg cannot reproduce the issue (with the latest builds?).
Nothing was fixed. Nothing.
I have no trouble reproducing the problem on two completely different computers, every time 100% fail with BBC HD content.
And that includes today's r2223 build.

Here is a very short sample that I capped myself (7.5 MB).
http://fono.jp/uploader/src/file_1574.rar

Alexander01
10th August 2010, 22:48
To the coders of Media Player Classic - Home Cinema:

Can you please add an option to disable 'embedded subtitles'.

Everytime when I open a mkv file with embedded subtitles I need to switch to my external .srt manually
And sometimes I just don't want to use subtitles, but MPC-HC always loads the embedded subtitles. I can disable them manually, but i'd like to see an option to permantly disable embedded subtitles.

Aleksoid1978
10th August 2010, 23:01
Nothing was fixed. Nothing.
I have no trouble reproducing the problem on two completely different computers, every time 100% fail with BBC HD content.
And that includes today's r2223 build.

Here is a very short sample that I capped myself (7.5 MB).
http://fono.jp/uploader/src/file_1574.rar

without DXVA play fine - with DXVA cat test later.

PetitDragon
10th August 2010, 23:22
XhmikosR does MPC-HC crash upon load of a .FLAC file when using ffdshow and not the internal decoder for you?

I confirmed this .flac loading crach at Post #13685.

The .flac files are 44.1khz/2-ch rip from audio cd.