Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[ranpha]

I could use EVR (dxva2), but I don't like colors... faces look too saturated (red). Should'nt both renderers give same picture quality?

Is that ATI? Then just disable those dynamic contrast and skin color settings if you have them enabled.

[Leak]

Maybe some other window is stealing the focus? Disable any other apps running in the background which could cause this.
If you use VMR9 or EVR as renderer you can use the "Direct3D Fullscreen" option to make sure it stays in fullscreen. You couldn't change to window mode from there even if you wanted... :)

[ramonchin]

Is that ATI? Then just disable those dynamic contrast and skin color settings if you have them enabled.
Dynamic contrast was introduced with Ati 48xx series. I've Ati 3850, and I disabled Skin color settings, but any success. Perhaps the problem is Dvbviewer, what says "EVR experimental"...

Thanks.

[dutchguy]

I am having the same flashing problem with my PCI-e ATI 3650 card. Running XP and Catalyst 8.10 and MPC build 906

Picture flashes back a bit, sometimes macroblocks appear, sometimes pictures flashes back and forth and get stuck in a loop.

Any solution for that?
I have the same problem. I can only use VMR7 renderless, other renderers either don't use DXVA or give the "macroblocks followed by a repeating loop" problem (the problem usually only appears when running full-screen, when using a small window, there is no problem). I also have a 3650 card running under XP SP3.

Anyone know if these problems get fixed if you upgrade to Vista?

[MichaelAnders]

Vista 32, ATI HD 4550, Dual Core AMD 4850e (2.5 Ghz), 2 Gb Ram, MPC-HC v891

I have H264 and VC1 MKV's, and naturally wish to use DXVA. So to achieve that, I set "EVR" mode in output as it was posted in this thread that H264 would not work with VMR9, and I can confirm that for both codecs "DXVA" is now enabled in the MPC decoder.

With "EVR" output, the video playes fine: however, there is no subtitles, no pixel shaders -> unusable. But there are NO dropped frames in this case, and 24p plays perfectly fine.

Once I move to "EVR custom", I have subtitles and Pixel Shaders, perfect. And no dropped frames if my monitor is set to >24 Hz. However, as the movie material is 24p, the picture is not nice... Once I go to 24 Hz, I have a 1:1 between drawn and dropped frames (e.g. 1000 drawn frames and 999 dropped frames).

The picture looks "fine", but the problem is that the sound lags behind. Video is unwatchable :(

Anyone have any idea why this is?

[Bunnikside]

After using MPHC for a long time :thanks:,today I installed PowerDVD 8 on my system.

Strangest thing happens that I can no longer play sound from my SPDIF while playing a DVD. Other formats such as H264 etc. work with no problem. Before, without having PowerDVD installed, I had no problems whatsoever. :confused:

I've been searching the internet for a solution, hope someone here can help me.

Problem solved!!! one way or the other the volumeknob was down to zero?!?!:stupid::stupid::stupid:

[ranpha]

Dynamic contrast was introduced with Ati 48xx series. I've Ati 3850, and I disabled Skin color settings, but any success. Perhaps the problem is Dvbviewer, what says "EVR experimental"...

Thanks.

Well, try playing the video on MPC-HC EVR renderer (both of them), and if the result is the same, then problem lies with the EVR experimental in DVBViewer.

[Jong]

Just installed the new stable release and I was very surprised to find that MPC-HC with 1080p mkvs and VMR9, still displays 1088 lines instead of 1080 unless VMR Mixer Mode is enabled. I am using an ATI3850, if that matters. It has affected all Catalyst versions since I first discovered this problem back in May (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1140661).

Any reason why this problem is so hard? (or possibly why no one cares?!)

[DeepBeepMeep]

I have noticed that using VMR9 exclusive full screen the slider to move around the movie diseapears after only 1s even if the mouse pointer is still on top of it.

With old releases (more than 6 months ago), one had to move away the mouse pointer to make the slider disappear.

I would be grateful if you could put back the old behaviour or at least to offer an option as it is now very hard to use the slider. Many thanks.

[Snowknight26]

Would it be possible to separate the settings for the x86 and x64 versions?

[alexins]

Would it be possible to separate the settings for the x86 and x64 versions?
This must be made!!! The retention of tuning into ini - file it only partially solves this problem. For example, when you indicate the new associations of files into mpc-hc of x64 (Player-> formats), then tuning associations collapse into mpc-hc of x86. And if the usual run MPC, which stores the settings in one location in the registry with mpc-hc, it can cause problems when playing video with subtitles.

[bmnot]

alexins, why is VC1 in m2ts so choppy? MPC-HC says the video is playing back at 23.976 but it's very choppy, like lots of frames are being dropped. Only occurs with the MPC-HC MPEG splitter.

[rt87]

alexins, why is VC1 in m2ts so choppy? MPC-HC says the video is playing back at 23.976 but it's very choppy, like lots of frames are being dropped. Only occurs with the MPC-HC MPEG splitter.

did you try haali's splitter?

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 912 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/462/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 912 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/461/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

CHANGE : Auto-hide playlist on fullscreen(feature request #2219561).

[GrofLuigi]

CHANGE : Auto-hide playlist on fullscreen(feature request #2219561).

Wow! That many? :scared:

GL

[clsid]

Wow! That many? :scared:

GL
That is an ID, not a count.

[KAnycTA]

Is it possible to move saved "favorites" into additional config file?

[Casimir666]

Just installed the new stable release and I was very surprised to find that MPC-HC with 1080p mkvs and VMR9, still displays 1088 lines instead of 1080 unless VMR Mixer Mode is enabled. I am using an ATI3850, if that matters. It has affected all Catalyst versions since I first discovered this problem back in May (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1140661).

Any reason why this problem is so hard? (or possibly why no one cares?!)

Not that simple : 1080 is not a valid size for DXVA DirectX surface (not a multiple of 16), so mpc allocate the correct size (1088).
He also tell the renderer to crop last 8 lines (see rcSource and rcTarget in output property pin), but VMR9 renderless doesn't care if not in Mixer Mode. PowerDVD have the same problem of blur line

Do you have special reason not using Mixer mode ?


alexins, why is VC1 in m2ts so choppy? MPC-HC says the video is playing back at 23.976 but it's very choppy, like lots of frames are being dropped. Only occurs with the MPC-HC MPEG splitter.

I know this, not fixed yet.

[rack04]

Do you have special reason not using Mixer mode?

When playing this (http://rapidshare.com/files/169950939/inkheart-tlr2a_h1080p_0.mp4.html) file using MPC-HC (svn 912) with internal mp4 source filter, ffdshow h264 video decoder, VMR9 (renderless), and VMR9 mixer mode I lose all colors.

With VMR9 mixer mode:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rack04/snapshot20081203142016.jpg

Without VMR9 mixer mode:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rack04/snapshot20081203142244.jpg

[clsid]

Your file plays fine here with VMR9 mixer. I even tried different settings for surfaces, etc.

So it is most likely a driver problem.

[rack04]

Your file plays fine here with VMR9 mixer. I even tried different settings for surfaces, etc.

So it is most likely a driver problem.

Very likely. Stupid Dell video drivers. Thanks.

BTW, what exactly does VMR9 mixer mode do? Should this be enabled?

Update: With YUV mixing and VMR mixer mode enabled the file plays fine.

[Snowknight26]

How many threads does the H.264 video decoder use when the registry key for MPC Video Decoder hasn't yet been created?

[Aleksoid1978]

How many threads does the H.264 video decoder use when the registry key for MPC Video Decoder hasn't yet been created?

= Core Number of you processor.

[Snowknight26]

What is the max number? I have a box that has 16 cores but I'm inclined to say thats not a valid number as only 1-6 are selectable.

[Aleksoid1978]

What is the max number? I have a box that has 16 cores but I'm inclined to say thats not a valid number as only 1-6 are selectable.

Max - 6

[Snowknight26]

So even if you have more than 6 cores it will still only use 6 threads? Just hoping it won't be an issue similar to that ffdshow one I found.

[Jay Bee]

Amy updates on interlaced VC-1 support? Here are a few samples from another thread.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=610f03b89c15442eab1eab3e9fa335ca0783b3eef96c0af9

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=610f03b89c15442eab1eab3e9fa335ca96e8f04935ff43a0

[Leak]

BTW, what exactly does VMR9 mixer mode do? Should this be enabled?
*cough* (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1218461#post1218461)

[Jong]

Not that simple : 1080 is not a valid size for DXVA DirectX surface (not a multiple of 16), so mpc allocate the correct size (1088).
He also tell the renderer to crop last 8 lines (see rcSource and rcTarget in output property pin), but VMR9 renderless doesn't care if not in Mixer Mode. PowerDVD have the same problem of blur line

Do you have special reason not using Mixer mode ?Thanks for the reply. That does explain it.

I know other decoders offer the option to truncate in the decoder (CoreAVC for example). It would be good in the MPC decoder could too.

1. It does cause problems when using the decoder in other players that may not support mixer mode.

2. Even in MPC-HC there is the expansion error in mixer mode where 16 -> 1 not 0, unless also using YUV mixing (at least that was the case with the last stable release, I admit I haven't checked this one). YUV Mixing can, I believe be problematic for some, although it works here.

3. Also, for some bizarre reason, the current Reclock beta appears unable to detect the frame rate of 60(i) material when the current refresh rate is not 60Hz if VMR9 Mixer mode is used! So I cannot use MPC-HC for this media.

At the very least, I think there should be some clear guidance on the renderer settings to use for HD playback, in the help files or the MPC-HC web site - "If using VMR9 you must use Mixer Mode AND YUV Mixing", but if possible it would be good if the decoder could do the cropping (optionally), to open up more renderer options that might be needed by some.

[THX-UltraII]

I ve found out that when I use the Shader 16-235 -> 0-255 I have to set my Mitshubishi HC7000 LCD projector to mode ADVANCED (RGB) to get proper blacks and whites.

Is this the best option to pick or is it better to disable this shader and set my Mitsubishi projector to NORMAL?

[kutjong]

I ve found out that when I use the Shader 16-235 -> 0-255 I have to set my Mitshubishi HC7000 LCD projector to mode ADVANCED (RGB) to get proper blacks and whites.

Is this the best option to pick or is it better to disable this shader and set my Mitsubishi projector to NORMAL?
It's better to disable the shader if you are getting proper blacks and whites in "normal" mode. 16-235 to 0-255 conversion should be discouraged, it's a somewhat lossy conversion from what I've heard.

[THX-UltraII]

It's better to disable the shader if you are getting proper blacks and whites in "normal" mode. 16-235 to 0-255 conversion should be discouraged, it's a somewhat lossy conversion from what I've heard.

can you explain this to my a bit more instead of 'what I've heard'?

I've heard :D that this shader is ok and even better to use

[rack04]

Are there varying DXVA restrictions for different video cards? Some of the DXVA compliant files that I have on my home pc (8800GT) will utilize DXVA but will not on my laptop (Quadro NVS 135M).

As a test, I encoded a 1920x1080 VC1 MKV with varying resolutions. The only thing that I changed was the crop and resize.

Encode 1 (DXVA works)

DirectShowSource("C:\Personal\Videos\sample.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false)
crop( 0, 128, 0, -136)
Spline64Resize(1280,544)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rack04/DXVA.jpg

Encode 2 (Reverts to FFmpeg)

DirectShowSource("C:\Personal\Videos\sample.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false)
crop( 0, 128, 0, -136)
Spline64Resize(1920,816)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rack04/DXVAno.jpg

[clsid]

can you explain this to my a bit more instead of 'what I've heard'?

I've heard :D that this shader is ok and even better to use
If you don't need to correct the levels, then don't. What you have heard is complete bullshit, so forget it. You should only use the shader if you need to correct the levels.

[nurbs]

@rack04:
You need to tell your encoding settings. For instance a certain number of refs will be fine with 720p content, but will break level compliancy with 1080p.

edit:
I think I misunderstood your question. Do both files work on your desktop?

[rack04]

@rack04:
You need to tell your encoding settings. For instance a certain number of refs will be fine with 720p content, but will break level compliancy with 1080p.

I used the same MeGUI DXVA-HD-HQ profile for both

edit:
I think I misunderstood your question. Do both files work on your desktop?

Yes both play with DXVA on my home pc (8800GT).

I don't know if it makes any difference but my laptop is docked and displayed on 2 DVI monitors.

[nurbs]

That profile should work at 1080p. So it's probably your card, but I don't know for sure.

[kutjong]

can you explain this to my a bit more instead of 'what I've heard'?

I've heard :D that this shader is ok and even better to use
You lose BTB and WTW, and the expansion can cause banding.

[dreamon]

i can't access to xvidvideo.ru, so please can anybody give me another download links for MPC-HC rev. 912 and ffdshow-MT rev. 2407 ?

[ikarad]

I try the last official version of MPC-HC v1.2.908.0 and .PG subtitle (MT2S presentation graphic streams) are buggued because some subtitles in some anime (example : utawarerumono:blu-ray disc) are not displayed.
I also tried other versions and there is the same problem.

[cweb]

mpc-hc was crashing on me and telling me to email the minidump... (every time I viewed any video file)
anyway I found it was DEP which was causing the problem (this is subsequent to installing VS2008 and repairing windows xp sp2)... turning DEP off solved the problem. I was getting an 'unhandled exception' too..
I found the solution here:
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-snn8VuQrdLOqLz3TCGLzfNGuJM8-?cq=1&p=76

[leeperry]

can you explain this to my a bit more instead of 'what I've heard'?

I've heard :D that this shader is ok and even better to use
most likely your videocard drivers are already doing TV>PC conversion....there's no need to use this script on top of it ;)

the easiest solution is to set your hc7k to PC range, and forget about it....your PC does a better job at converting levels than your onboard pj electronics :cool:

[dreamon]

i can't access to xvidvideo.ru, so please can anybody give me another download links for MPC-HC rev. 912 ?

[Aleksoid1978]

i can't access to xvidvideo.ru, so please can anybody give me another download links for MPC-HC rev. 912 ?

Here - www.tosei.ru/isoft/mpc/mpc.x86.912.7z

mpc-hc show 912rev, but this is 913.

[dreamon]

thanks Aleksoid :D

[kutjong]

most likely your videocard drivers are already doing TV>PC conversion....there's no need to use this script on top of it ;)

the easiest solution is to set your hc7k to PC range, and forget about it....your PC does a better job at converting levels than your onboard pj electronics :cool:
With VMR9 it's the default setting that TV->PC conversion is not done and if he's getting proper blacks and whites with the shader off and the projector in normal mode, it just further proves it.

Why would you think that the projector converts it to PC levels? Especially if TV levels is the "normal" setting on the projector? These things are designed to work with DVD players, Blu-Ray, DVB etc which all use TV levels. So my verdict would be that it supports both, in which case I would stay away from TV->PC conversion.

[leeperry]

Why would you think that the projector converts it to PC levels?
[...]
So my verdict would be that it supports both, in which case I would stay away from TV->PC conversion.
except that these Mitsu offer you the option to work either in TV or PC levels, like most recent projectors.

if you go TV, they *WILL* convert to PC levels anyway, using a $5 ASIC onboard chip.

my verdict is to compare both solutions, and see for yourself whichever one you prefer ;)

[hrr]

Hi !

I'm trying to change the subtitle position for an mkv but I only can change it through right button option Subtitle, styles, because it seems that every mkv I have, includes its own subtitle style and mpc get it by default and don't apply the default settings I have, in this case, I prefer to put the subtitles on top of the film, because when I see a 2,35 aspect film, I zoom the projector and the default subtitle position gets over my central speaker :(

I can make it without D3D mode, but when I close the file, not the player, to activate the D3D mode and open the file again all my changes get lost.

I've looking for an option in Haali splitter to not get this styles but it does not exist.

I've tried to use the web interface, but it seems there is no options through this interface to position the subtitles.

Any one has an idea about how to solve this problem ?

Thanks... :)

[Chumbo]

You have to change the subtitle settings under Options to make them your DEFAULT. If you change them on the fly, then it's just during that instance/session that you change them.

[Octo-puss]

Can someone explain to me what is the difference betweeen "source filters" and "transform filters"? Also, some are bold and some not. I usually just untick everything as I use FFDShow, but um... you know. I don't quite know what I'm doing :)