Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[bobdynlan]

You can't argue about the massive loss of portability - that is to just drag and drop the exe anywhere and it still works as intended. I hope I'm wrong to think that many users praise not only MPC-HC's spartan looks... but also the fact that it's a true portable application. You take that away, you may cut it's wings over the competition.

I do agree it helps developers, but I'm just worried about the consequences on the long run.

[madshi]

So you have to drag&drop a folder instead of a file. What's the big problem?

[SamuriHL]

Yea, maybe I'm missing the point, as well. MPC-HC's portable power isn't in that it's a single exe...it's that it can be moved to any machine by dragging it and dropping it. I'm with madshi on this, what's the real difference between dragging and dropping a single file or a folder? :confused: I mean sure, a single exe's fine and all, but, that's not really what gives it "portability".

[nevcairiel]

Portable just means you can use it without installation, and settings are stored with the application, and not in the registry or in %USERDATA%. Considering most systems also don't have the D3D libraries required, you can even only use it partially in that capacity. I agree with the others here, i see no difference if its a .exe or a .exe with a handful of dlls/.ax files.

And before anyone says that i'm biased and all, personally, i don't care if LAV Splitter gets ever integrated. It'll probably cause so many issues and whining users, that i would rather not see it happen and keep it hidden and me happy, and leave time for working on new features. :P
But one thing is true, i will never modify LAV Splitter or LAV Audio to work as an embedded component, or with embedded ffmpeg, just because i do believe this is just BS, also because static linking on windows is really a bad thing to do.

[mr.duck]

I do agree it helps developers, but I'm just worried about the consequences on the long run.

Over reacting much? Anyway, you have to have the exe and settings ini file at the minimum for true portability so your argument falls down right there.

[bobdynlan]

Over reacting much? Anyway, you have to have the exe and settings ini file at the minimum for true portability so your argument falls down right there.Don't mind me, I'm just a SinaTM copycat :) BS or not there must be people that think that way and you will not find those among the doom9 members...
But you should just stop now and read nevcairiel response again, it pretty much cleared up this matter, if you want to add something useful it should be about how you can help to make this happen sooner, clsid pointed out some directions. Thank you.

[mr.duck]

if you want to add something useful it should be about how you can help to make this happen sooner
My way is to gently nag people that can do it...

nevcairiel might be willing to do that as it will allow integration of his splitters.

nevcairiel, ;) pretty please! :p

Imagine it... out of the box LAVSplitter goodness :)

[v0lt]

@clsid
Don't use groups of file extensions, but simple lists of individual file extensions.
I propose to make a tree.
http://i.imgur.com/93xwD.png
(this is an example for illustration)
Only I never did this in C++. :)

[clsid]

@v0lt
Looks good ;)
I think adding the leading dot to the extensions might look better. But that is just a cosmetic nitpick and personal taste.

The group names are currently also used as description for the file associations. Those descriptions could be moved to an internal list op tuples (extension+description).

The Video/Audio/All buttons are also not needed anymore with your tree list.

[v0lt]

@clsid
But to draw a working tree is difficult for me. Now I do not so much time.

Firstly it may be worth split window "Formats" on two ("File Associations" and ?). Or should not do this?

[clsid]

Every step towards the desired end result is welcome.
You probably mean first splitting into "File Associations" and the "Frameworks" pages.

[clsid]

@Casshern: In my builds I solved compatibility with older ATi drivers by adding conversions to NV12 as an option. It's not in the trunk build yet.Can you commit that fix?

[v0lt]

@clsid
I do not understand the appointment of "Frameworks" page. What do you mean "Frameworks"?

I found it (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1490068&highlight=Framework+page#post1490068) now I read more closely.

[pirlouy]

I'm just a SinaTM copycat :) Ahah ! No, he is unique ! :D

I fully agree Clsid's ideas (useless surely, but all these support may motivate someone).

[SamuriHL]

Help Please!

Failed to query the needed interfaces for playback.

What the hell is that? My main HTPC just ran into this tonight. It's been running absolutely fine until I turned it on a little while ago and tried to play an h.264 MKV. *NOTHING* plays. I've tried simplifying everything and using the internal filters/splitter. Same error. I've reinstalled DX. Same error. What is going on with this? The only thing I could find is some nonsense about DVD and qdvd.dll not being registered. This ain't no DVD problem. It won't play *ANYTHING*. :(

EDIT: Well, this sucks. It doesn't appear limited to MPC-HC. Something is BADLY corrupted on my main HTPC. Not even TMT5 will play *ANY* video. If anyone has any bright ideas I'm all open to them. Otherwise I'm looking at a reinstall of that machine and THAT is not a pleasant thought. :mad:

[noee]

Try uninstalling then sweep your video driver, then reinstall.

[SamuriHL]

I did. No help at all. PDVD, TMT, MPC-HC...all told me to go away. Doing an upgrade install over the top of my install (don't ask). If that doesn't fix it, that machine is going to need the grace of God to save it from me. :) The Samuri in my name wasn't chosen for no reason. I have a katana hanging on my wall. :D Seriously, though, I'm gonna give it a pseudo clean install (if you've never done this, basically it lays down a clean W7 install and then sucks in your settings and programs...you lose windows updates and any drivers you had installed but all programs and settings are retained) and see if that fixes it. If not, a FULL clean install. I have NO IDEA what happened. I didn't install anything from the time it was working to when it decided not to. sigh.

[fairchild]

I did. No help at all. PDVD, TMT, MPC-HC...all told me to go away. Doing an upgrade install over the top of my install (don't ask). If that doesn't fix it, that machine is going to need the grace of God to save it from me. :) The Samuri in my name wasn't chosen for no reason. I have a katana hanging on my wall. :D Seriously, though, I'm gonna give it a pseudo clean install (if you've never done this, basically it lays down a clean W7 install and then sucks in your settings and programs...you lose windows updates and any drivers you had installed but all programs and settings are retained) and see if that fixes it. If not, a FULL clean install. I have NO IDEA what happened. I didn't install anything from the time it was working to when it decided not to. sigh.

Try running the legacy MPC in a different folder, set it up a bit (choose renderer, decoders, etc how you want to run it). If it runs (and it does for me even when mpc-hc was broken for me), then try running mpc-hc. I don't know what it does, but it fixes my registry somehow and allows me to get mpc-hc working again.

http://www.free-codecs.com/media_player_classic_download.htm

Again, this fixed my problems that I was having a while back where I could get MPC-HC 64-bit to work as well as PotPlayer 32-bit/64-bit but couldn't get MPC-HC 32-bit to work.

The exact one I got was mplayerc_20100214.zip

[SamuriHL]

Try running the legacy MPC in a different folder, set it up a bit (choose renderer, decoders, etc how you want to run it). If it runs (and it does for me even when mpc-hc was broken for me), then try running mpc-hc. I don't know what it does, but it fixes my registry somehow and allows me to get mpc-hc working again.

http://www.free-codecs.com/media_player_classic_download.htm

Again, this fixed my problems that I was having a while back where I could get MPC-HC 64-bit to work as well as PotPlayer 32-bit/64-bit but couldn't get MPC-HC 32-bit to work.

The exact one I got was mplayerc_20100214.zip

Fascinating. A bit late now as my upgrade install is running but that's one I didn't try. I have legacy mpc in my tools dir and didn't think to run that one. I mean, I tried it all...they were all busted. You're right, though...HAS to be some kind of registry corruption. Oh well. I'm hoping this issue will go away shortly. I wanted to run some tests on madVR with the Cyberlink HAM decoder. So I compiled the latest LAV Splitter and MPC-HC code (3017), installed them on my HTPC, and went to try running it. BOOM. No idea what caused it. I just want it back as that's my main video machine! VERY VERY bad.

[clsid]

@clsid
I do not understand the appointment of "Frameworks" page. What do you mean "Frameworks"?

I found it (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1490068&highlight=Framework+page#post1490068) now I read more closely.On the Formats page there are dropdown boxes at the right side where you can choose between DirectShow/QuickTime/RealMedia. Those are the playback 'frameworks'.
The idea is to move those settings to a new page in the options. I explained it in this post:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1490068#post1490068

[neoufo51]

xvidvideo.ru's downloads are not working.

[betaking]

xvidvideo.ru's downloads are not working.

you can download XhmikosR's builds at here http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/

[ceb]

I'm using version 1.5.2.3018 and EVR CP doesn't work, I get a black screen with only audio, if I switch to EVR Sync it works fine. This is similar to the problem I have when enabling DXVA (black screen with only audio but it seems to flash a little), although I wouldn't use DXVA anyway with my CPU.
Previously I was using version 1.5.2.2990 and it worked fine, is it my or MPC-HC's problem? In the changelog I didn't see any recent fixes for EVR CP but at the same time my hardware/software configuration is the same, I just had to format.
By the way, should I use EVR Sync or CP for best quality? The only thing I do is use Sharpen Complex 2 and changing the resizer to Bicubic A=-0.60 (PS 2.0).
Thanks.

Some details:
Intel Core i5 2500
ATI 5770 with 11.3 Catalyst (driver only version)
Windows 7 SP1 64-bit
MPC-HC 1.5.2.3018 x64 BE mod (with installer)
DirectX 9 updated
video formats: mp4, mkv and avi

[mr.duck]

No issue for me using r3018, Radeon 5750, 11.2 Drivers, Windows 7 x64, EVR CP.

[[ReX]]

So... for some reason, I'm not able to compile MPC-HC anymore, because of MediaInfo.
I use the batch file for VS2010, and it used to work fine until some weeks ago.

It gives me the following errors when I try to build it again:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=am9yRVdX

The batch I use to build:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PGbwcavV

[SamuriHL]

;1491075']So... for some reason, I'm not able to compile MPC-HC anymore, because of MediaInfo.
I use the batch file for VS2010, and it used to work fine until some weeks ago.

It gives me the following errors when I try to build it again:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=am9yRVdX

The batch I use to build:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PGbwcavV

That's really odd. I just set up my build env last week (vs2010) and it's been building for me no problem. I'm building 3019 right now, in fact. Are you sure you're pulling all the code?

[mr.duck]

Pleased with what I have achieved for a media setup at home. Summery...


Home Server
- Fanless mini ITX
- TV recording with a http web interface for TV guide and scheduling
- NAS duties for accessing media and for backups/general storage
- Wake on lan to wake server after it has gone to sleep to save energy
- Very quiet with 2 x 3.5" HDD mounted in scythe quiet drive enclosures
- Automatic remuxing TV into MKV for lower overheads and high performance playback
- Automatic streaming of current recording over network using VLC to serve (~4 sec delay compared to live)


Client computers
- Standard windows desktops or laptops connect over wired/wireless network
- A file manager and MPC HC for the HTPC interface
- TV playback is perfect thanks to remux to MKV (subtitles work better and corrupt video gets cut in the remux)
- No TV ads any more and files seek instantly and effortlessly thanks in part to MPC small, medium, large skip steps
- Access the live TV stream using VLC by just clicking a shortcut (used to watch sports which must be live)



But now I have found MPC can access the video stream. See screenshot for proof:

http://i.imgur.com/oXFTy.png

Check the titlebar. That is the home server address and MPC is accessing the http based feed!

But it's not reliable enough. Sometimes takes a few attempts to open it before both the video and audio are working. It stutters a lot at first but usually settles down eventually. It wont use LAVSplitter for the feed, instead it shows "Mpeg splitter (low merit)" whch will be the MPC built-in TS splitter I believe.

Requesting help/ideas to improve reliability so I can watch the F1 in glorious madVR quality! :thanks:

[[ReX]]

That's really odd. I just set up my build env last week (vs2010) and it's been building for me no problem. I'm building 3019 right now, in fact. Are you sure you're pulling all the code?

As you said, something went wrong when pulling the code.
I deleted the contents of ..\MediaInfo\MediaInfo and pulled them manually from here (http://mediainfo.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/mediainfo/MediaInfoLib/tags/v0.7.43/Source/MediaInfo).

The build was successful! :devil:

:thanks:

[SamuriHL]

;1491089']As you said, something went wrong when pulling the code.
I deleted the contents of ..\MediaInfo\MediaInfo and pulled them manually from here (http://mediainfo.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/mediainfo/MediaInfoLib/tags/v0.7.43/Source/MediaInfo).

The build was successful! :devil:

:thanks:

Very nice! Glad you were able to resolve that!!

[ceb]

No issue for me using r3018, Radeon 5750, 11.2 Drivers, Windows 7 x64, EVR CP.
Thanks for the answer. :)
It seems even you and others had this problem before (ticket #1074 (http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1074)).
What do you mean by:
The quality is bloody awful since I didn't install CCC it now seems that all the 'enhancements' are on by default rather than off when you don't install CCC.
I also use the version without CCC but it always seemed OK for me.

Anyway, I tried uninstalling 1.5.2.3018, then installed 1.5.2.3019 but still EVR CP doesn't work.
How can I understand what is my problem? It worked fine before the format and now it doesn't. I have the exact same hardware/software as before. :confused:
Is EVR Sync better or worse than EVR CP in image quality? As you may have understood, I'm not an expert. :p

[betaking]

i see Media Player Classic (patched build) compiled by Clsid:
Revision 106 - Directory Listing
Modified Sat Oct 31 18:32:54 2009 UTC (17 months, 1 week ago) by clsid2
Fixed wrong comment for Delay setting in DirectVobSub.
but mpc-hc still not fix this!

[nevcairiel]

i see Media Player Classic (patched build) compiled by Clsid:
Revision 106 - Directory Listing
Modified Sat Oct 31 18:32:54 2009 UTC (17 months, 1 week ago) by clsid2
Fixed wrong comment for Delay setting in DirectVobSub.
but mpc-hc still not fix this!

Its a comment, how important can that possibly be. <.<

[mindz]

I have been looking around for quite some time on this forum and have gotten alot of useful information from it, thank you all for that.

I have a question of my own. I seem to have to use the shader 16-235->0-255[SD][HD], otherwise the picture looks washed out. This doesnt seem right, and i should be able to get the right picture without conversion, right? Also, im trying to get the shaders from JanWillem to work. I know how to activate them in MPC-HC and how to enable them, but they dont show any difference. How come?

[bobdynlan]

mindz, the most visually effective way to test is to activate the Invert shader. Whenever you toggle normal or screen space shaders, you get a status bar message with the name and eventual failure. Also, it's best to use the Combine... Shaders feature, and a (puzzling) note: activated/disabled = with/without checkmark on the popup menu.

If you try to add new shaders by means of a registry file - it's unreliable - you should manually open the Shader Editor and on the first combo box write a new name for it, press Enter, it will auto-complete a dummy shader, the status will say "D3DXCompileShader succeeded". Right click the dummy shader text, Select All, Delete. Paste JanWillem32's shader there. If all ok, status will say again "D3DXCompileShader succeeded".

I guess an import text-file feature is needed, maybe I can make a patch for it.

-----------
About the TV-PC levels, I would recommend the "brightness, contrast and gamma control for RGB" with a calibration video like Section-A.mp4 (starting at 3:00) for the best results. It's not enough to tweak video levels, most displays need also a gamma adjustments.
First increase the 3 gamma values until you see every useful detail in the picture. I'm using more meaningful values of 2.2/2.X for gamma - and adjust only the 2.X part. Then decrease the 3 brightness values in .005 steps to lower the black. And finally, increase the 3 contrast values in .01 steps to increase the white. I did not test the new "brightness, contrast, grayscale gamma, colorfulness gamma, hue and saturation control for SD&HD video input" but it needs similar adjustments.

The reason you need this is because renderers are not consistent when it comes to video levels. In EVR-CP you can use the built in Output Level 0-255 or 16-235 without messing with other shaders, but I remember JanWillem32 said something about clipping with 0-255 so it's best to use a 16-235 there and adjust with the shaders.

[Schrade]

Pleased with what I have achieved for a media setup at home. Summery...


Home Server
- Fanless mini ITX
- TV recording with a http web interface for TV guide and scheduling
- Automatic remuxing TV into MKV for lower overheads and high performance playback
- Automatic streaming of current recording over network using VLC to serve (~4 sec delay compared to live)


Client computers
- Standard windows desktops or laptops connect over wired/wireless network
- A file manager and MPC HC for the HTPC interface
- TV playback is perfect thanks to remux to MKV (subtitles work better and corrupt video gets cut in the remux)
- No TV ads any more and files seek instantly and effortlessly thanks in part to MPC small, medium, large skip steps
- Access the live TV stream using VLC by just clicking a shortcut (used to watch sports which must be live)
:thanks:

Nice setup! Can you share some info in a thread elsewhere (that's more appropriate) for the VLC setup and other things you use?

[Plutotype]

Hi folks,

Sorry for double questioning this.

It is already possible to play back 3D blurays via MPC-HC, 3D capable receiver and watch them on a 3D capable LCD with glasses?

If no, why?

Thanks
Pluto

[nevcairiel]

Its not. Why? Because no-one implemented it.

There is no MVC decoder or a 3D renderer available.

[ceb]

I'm using version 1.5.2.3018 and EVR CP doesn't work, I get a black screen with only audio, if I switch to EVR Sync it works fine. This is similar to the problem I have when enabling DXVA (black screen with only audio but it seems to flash a little), although I wouldn't use DXVA anyway with my CPU.
Previously I was using version 1.5.2.2990 and it worked fine, is it my or MPC-HC's problem? In the changelog I didn't see any recent fixes for EVR CP but at the same time my hardware/software configuration is the same, I just had to format.
By the way, should I use EVR Sync or CP for best quality? The only thing I do is use Sharpen Complex 2 and changing the resizer to Bicubic A=-0.60 (PS 2.0).
Thanks.

Some details:
Intel Core i5 2500
ATI 5770 with 11.3 Catalyst (driver only version)
Windows 7 SP1 64-bit
MPC-HC 1.5.2.3018 x64 BE mod (with installer)
DirectX 9 updated
video formats: mp4, mkv and avi
Thanks for the answer. :)
It seems even you and others had this problem before (ticket #1074 (http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1074)).
What do you mean by:

I also use the version without CCC but it always seemed OK for me.

Anyway, I tried uninstalling 1.5.2.3018, then installed 1.5.2.3019 but still EVR CP doesn't work.
How can I understand what is my problem? It worked fine before the format and now it doesn't. I have the exact same hardware/software as before. :confused:
Is EVR Sync better or worse than EVR CP in image quality? As you may have understood, I'm not an expert. :p
Can someone help me?
I tried version 1.5.2.3023 but EVR CP still doesn't work.

[betaking]

Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Service Pack 1 MFC Security Update
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=4149f21c-37f7-4516-83e1-d70c738d612b
but install this patch after, i compile last mpc-hc svn mpc-hc.exe and mpc-hc_standalone_filters is very big? and dev can optimization code?

[mr.duck]

Nice setup! Can you share some info in a thread elsewhere (that's more appropriate) for the VLC setup and other things you use?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=160561

[GTPVHD]

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS11-025.mspx

Microsoft has released a security update for Visual Studio 2008 SP1 for those still using Visual Studio 2008 SP1 to compile MPC-HC. This fix should already be in in Visual Studio 2010 SP1.

[hayan]

mpc-hc.exe x86 1.5.2.2990 (XhmikosR)
Total running time: about 2 hrs

Problem: Srceen freeze/crash

Event ID: 4101 Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered.

What you did: Press ← or → key ( "Fast seek" check box is checked)

display mode: Full Srceen (alt-enter)
Media type:H264/AVC (DXVA) (Internal Filter)
EVRCP, EVR Buffers:5
Vsync: VSync and AVSync
GPU control: all unchecked
Resizer: Bilinear
win7 x64 sp1, Fermi driver 266.58

After I rollback to 1.5.2.2976 (XvidVideo.RU)

mpc-hc.exe x86 1.5.2.3023 (XvidVideo.RU)
Total running time: about 2 hrs+

Problem: Srceen freeze/crash

Event ID: 4101 Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered.

What you did: Press ← or → key ( "Fast seek" check box is checked)

display mode: Windows mode
Media type:H264/AVC (DXVA) (Internal Filter)
EVRCP, EVR Buffers:5
Vsync: VSync and AVSync
GPU control: all unchecked
Resizer: Bicubic A=-0.75
win7 x64 sp1, Fermi driver 266.58


back to 1.5.2.2976 (XvidVideo.RU)...

[v0lt]

Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Service Pack 1 MFC Security Update
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=4149f21c-37f7-4516-83e1-d70c738d612b
but install this patch after, i compile last mpc-hc svn mpc-hc.exe and mpc-hc_standalone_filters is very big? and dev can optimization code?
After your posts I decided not to install the updates for VS2008. :)

[hopstiii]

What's that DXVA and has anybody been able to use it with Radeon HD-3870 and newest DirectX 10 for it.

I did see the DXVA symbol only with 64 bit MPC-HC, but video was messed up with that.

http://static3.nagi.ee/i/p/722/25/180563530fdb33_o.jpg

[nevcairiel]

After your posts I decided not to install the updates for VS2008. :)

Its a security update, not installing those is just irresponsible and stupid.

[betaking]

Its a security update, not installing those is just irresponsible and stupid.

You are right, but i hope mpc-hc dev can optimization mpc-hc code!because compile last mpc-hc svn mpc-hc.exe and mpc-hc_standalone_filters is very big!:(

[nevcairiel]

Use VS2010, i don't even have VS08 installed anymore. :)

[betaking]

Use VS2010, i don't even have VS08 installed anymore. :)

Use vs2010.still big.and some people still ues windows 2000!:(

[nevcairiel]

Windows 2000 is not supported anymore.

Also, just use the bigger version.

[madshi]

MSVC++ 2010 is painfully slow for me. Even just loading MPC-HC and waiting for parsing of the headers and updating of the intellisense information etc takes several minutes. Then the first compile also takes several minutes. I hate all that stupid intellisense stuff. There doesn't seem to be any way to turn it off, either (at least as far as I can see). Maybe the whole MPC-HC project is simply too big (with all the internal filters and stuff) for my old development PC. Developing madVR with MSVC++ 2005 is really quick, though.