Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[SBeaver]

With build 920 and 922 (32bit) MPC stops responding when I press the 'File' menu button.
Everything else works as it should, but I can't press File.
Any ideas?

I tried x64 version and I also tried downgrading to a version that used to work, it didn't help. Using catalyst 8.12, vista x64

also tried build 923, and tried reseting all settings to default.

[betaking]

With build 920 and 922 (32bit) MPC stops responding when I press the 'File' menu button.
Everything else works as it should, but I can't press File.
Any ideas?

I tried x64 version and I also tried downgrading to a version that used to work, it didn't help. Using catalyst 8.12, vista x64

also tried build 923, and tried reseting all settings to default.

If you use Kaspersky antivirus add mpc-hc to settings- Options-Kaspersky-Threats and
exclusions-exclusions-Tursted zone-Trusted applications

[73ChargerFan]

1)There is a bug with MPC home cinema under
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I would like to know if this bug is known and if this bug will be corrected in a new version of mpc home cinema.

Check out the bug tracker (https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=854651&group_id=170561&func=browse) at sourceforge. If you don't see it, use the "Add new artifact" button.

[SBeaver]

If you use Kaspersky antivirus add mpc-hc to settings- Options-Kaspersky-Threats and
exclusions-exclusions-Tursted zone-Trusted applications

I don't use kaspersky. Anyway, it must have been some freak thing because it went away after a couple of BSOD+reboots.
Maybe it was the new catalyst giving me trouble, I don't think I rebooted after installing it.

[CruNcher]

Huh ???
Can somebody confirm that Nvidia Buged VMR9 support for Win XP in the latest 180.84 Beta Forceware (8800 GT)
My PC is freezing immediately trying to buildup a VMR9 surface (after the Driver update) application doesn't matter (MPC,WMP) VMR7 works ok :)

Nevermind seems it freezes everwhere Direct3D is involved major bug in the Driver i guess.

[betaking]

It already works with RP11. It just doesn't work with new versions of cook.dll.

Casimir already tried to fix it, but the problem lies inside the RealMedia SDK, which is very old. So if you want it to be fixed, go ask RealNetworks to release an updated SDK.

thanks!but i found new realmedia sdk at here:
https://helix-producer.helixcommunity.org/Downloads.htm

[Casimir666]

thanks!but i found new realmedia sdk at here:
https://helix-producer.helixcommunity.org/Downloads.htm

Mpc didn't use any RM SDK : it load the real media DLL present on your computer (pnen3260.dll) and call it's functions. So as Clsid says, mpc use the latest real media present on your machine.

[chros]

Huh ???
Can somebody confirm that Nvidia Buged VMR9 support for Win XP in the latest 180.84 Beta Forceware (8800 GT)
My PC is freezing immediately trying to buildup a VMR9 surface (after the Driver update) application doesn't matter (MPC,WMP) VMR7 works ok :)

Nevermind seems it freezes everwhere Direct3D is involved major bug in the Driver i guess.

It's working form me, except this bug:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1222631#post1222631

[clsid]

Mpc didn't use any RM SDK : it load the real media DLL present on your computer (pnen3260.dll) and call it's functions. So as Clsid says, mpc use the latest real media present on your machine.
I meant the header files in \include\realmedia

thanks!but i found new realmedia sdk at here:
https://helix-producer.helixcommunity.org/Downloads.htm
That is not the correct one.

[gngn]

It's working form me, except this bug:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1222631#post1222631

i have no problems whatsoever, not in games and not with VMR9. maybe you should use driver sweeper (http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/) and try a fresh install of the drivers?

[clsid]

1) There is a bug with MPC home cinema under VISTA home premium 32bits and subtitles.
I use mpc home cinema (1.2.908)+ vobusb (2.38) to see subtitles.
Under XP there isn't delay between video and subtitles but under vista there is nearly two seconds (1.6 seconds precisely).

I notice that when i launch .vob files (or .ifo file which miss pub) instead of using "launch dvd function" there isn't delay between video and subtitles under vista but when I use "launch dvd function" under vista there is a delay of two seconds and consequently subtitles are delayed.

I try all version of mpc home cinema but there is the same problem.

I would like to know if this bug is known and if this bug will be corrected in a new version of mpc home cinema.

I try with two différent PC under vista and there is the same problem.
I don't think that DirectVobSub is used for DVD subtitles. I think that is handled internally. Nevertheless, this delay issue should be fixed.

With what video renderer(s) does it happen?
Does it happen with ALL your DVDs?
Is the delay always the same value?

[CruNcher]

It's working form me, except this bug:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1222631#post1222631

I wish it would be only that for me but as i said it's freezing my PC and im not the only one :) so might be that Nvidia killed via a bug 1 complete configuration set, rarely happens this extreme though :) reverted back to 180.70 and everything is fine.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=83984

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 925 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/482/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 925 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/481/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Updated FFmpeg; Fixed : non recognized H264 stream

[rack04]

Should "read AR from stream" be checked in the filter properties?

[cr0]

Wow, looks like I spoke too soon. On the bright side I found the catalyst for my issue. During install of 8.12 my Windows DPI settings got reverted to the default (96 DPI). As soon as I switched to Large (120 DPI) the corruption came back, switching to an even larger DPI (144 DPI) caused even worse corruption. Reverting back to 96 DPI caused the problem to go away again.

Well, I'm still unable to use DXVA for low resolution H264 content, but I did figure out something with the DPI settings.

If I'm using a non-standard DPI, I need to run MPC-HC in Compatibility mode with "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings" checked or make sure to choose "Use Windows XP style DPI scaling" when setting the DPI. Doing this allows me to continue decoding HD/FullHD H264 content via DXVA without corruption.

[Aleksoid1978]

Should "read AR from stream" be checked in the filter properties?

Yea - it is help if video show with not right Aspect Ratio(when in video header AR incorrect, but in video stream correct)

[hrr]

Hi !People w/ ATI cards... "ATI Catalyst 8.12 Display Driver is out"...
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx

Try DXVA w/ it and report back...?I had 8.3 and when viewing a mkv supposed to be L4.1 complaint it randomly get part of the picture like a repeated frame, but it go on playing.

Update to 8.12 and it get artifacts, macroblocking and repeat the same 4 or 5 frames for ever.

I have a ATI HD 2400 AGP and XP SP3. I've returned to 8.3

[Kurtnoise]

@alexins: which gcc version did you use to compile the lavc static lib ?

[alexins]

Kurtnoise13, To build x86 versions I'm using gcc 4.3.2 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_details/gid,604/Itemid,11/), for the x64 version uses gcc 4.4.0 x64 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_details/gid,605/Itemid,11/).

[fastplayer]

Just a blog post about MPC-HC I came across today:
Coding Horror: Easy, Efficient Hi-Def Video Playback (http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001197.html)

[VHT]

Hello! I have problems with EVR custom renderer and 24hz with MPC-HC. My PC is connected to Sony VPL-HS10 projector. Audio from my x264 encodes gets out of sync with EVR custom and 24hz.Video is perfectly smooth. With 60hz and EVR custom audio is in sync with the video but the video is not so smooth with 23.976fps encodes. I've tried other renderers too and with VMR9 and Haali audio is in sync with 24hz but I get random strutters with video. I've also tried many different codecs for audio and video too but nothing helps.(Using 32bit Vista Nvidia8800GT with latest offical drivers and CPU is Q6600). So do I have to choose between struttering video or out of sync audio?

[rack04]

Does anyone have a VC1 sample that is DXVA compliant? I've tried numerous HD DVD movies encoded with VC1 but I can't get any to play with DXVA acceleration. Nvidia says that the 8800gt can accelerate VC1 but I have yet to prove that. Thanks.

[Aleksoid1978]

Does anyone have a VC1 sample that is DXVA compliant? I've tried numerous HD DVD movies encoded with VC1 but I can't get any to play with DXVA acceleration. Nvidia says that the 8800gt can accelerate VC1 but I have yet to prove that. Thanks.

No - you can't use 8800GT for VC-1 decoding.

[Leak]

No - you can't use 8800GT for VC-1 decoding.
Or rather, it only has partial support for accelerating parts of VC-1 decoding, but MPC-HC's DXVA decoder needs full (bitstream) decoding support so all decoding can be done directly on the graphics card.

[CruNcher]

Here on my 8800GT it works nicely with Microsofts Decoder you have a nice CPU utilization decrease also for VC1 granted not as high as ~100% like with H.264 but you can count with say without DXVA 50% CPU with DXVA 25% CPU on the G92, so 50% cpu decrease is still possible with Entropy Decoding on the CPU, also it looks like that Mpeg-2 is harder to Decode then AVC on VP2 i wonder why might be that Nvidias own Mpeg-2 Decoder is the best chance to get the most out of it again compared to other 3rd Party Decoders i tested with Elecards HD Mpeg-2 Decoder in that case because of its excelent error correction most of the other stuck in Hardware Mode when errors appear and drop the entire bad frames (Cyberlink,Arcsoft) Elecards Decoder avoids that and keeps a smooth playback experience even with corrupted Mpeg-2 Streams no hiccups much better for Viewing such bad Mpeg-2 stuff imho, off course libmpeg2 also has no problems but no Hardware Decoding it's excellent for Transcoding, though there is no way to be sure here as there is no DGMpgDecNV yet which leverages all the capabilities of the VP2 Engine yet Directly ;) .

[her34]

913 04.12.2008

CHANGE : Gui option(in Playlist popupmenu) for rev.912

912 03.12.2008

CHANGE : Auto-hide playlist on fullscreen(feature request #2219561)



The playlist is either always on or always off in full screen. Why not make it truly auto-hide (hovering mouse on bottom of screen makes gui appear) like controls or seek bar does when "show controls in fullscreen" option is set to zero seconds

[yesgrey]

I've tried numerous HD DVD movies encoded with VC1 but I can't get any to play with DXVA acceleration.

Which video renderer, video decoder and OS?

[rack04]

Which video renderer, video decoder and OS?

VMR9 (renderless), VC1 (DXVA), and I've tried both XP and Vista (32). A couple posts up it was determined that the 8800gt isn't able to use DXVA acceleration in MPC-HC.

[Kurtnoise]

@devs: why tta codec is disabled in the lavc lib ?

@alexins: ok...thanks.

[darthfrueder]

I have got several AVCHD files in m2ts container produced by Canon HF100 camcorder. I think they are 1080i 50hz interlaced samples. All of them perfectly playable by the latest ffdshow and by PowerDVD 8 (DXVA on) on my 9600GT. But MPC-HC plays them with a strange jerkiness that appears every few seconds. It seems like it starts playing ok for some time and then several wrong frames are displayed and then it goes back to normal for several seconds and so on.
Is it a known bug? Any workarounds?

Anyway, I want to thank all of you who made DXVA2 available for the masses, MPC-HC is my all times favourite player!:thanks:

[yesgrey]

VC1 (DXVA)

This is not the decoder, is the video format.
Are you trying with MPC-HC video decoder? Try with Microsoft "WMVideo Decoder DMO", it has DXVA support, but only in VMR9 (in XP. I don't have Vista, so can't tell).

I have a 8600GT. When DXVA is working, I get 30%cpu usage, when it's not, I get 60%.

I believe 8800GT supports VC1 DXVA, at least in Nvidia's site I haven't found anything denying it... but remember tha NVidia DXVA in VC1 is not full (ATI's DXVA is full), is only partial.

I have tryed with MPC video decoder and DXVA is not working.

[ACrowley]

This is not the decoder, is the video format.
Are you trying with MPC-HC video decoder? Try with Microsoft "WMVideo Decoder DMO", it has DXVA support, but only in VMR9 (in XP. I don't have Vista, so can't tell).

I have a 8600GT. When DXVA is working, I get 30%cpu usage, when it's not, I get 60%.

I believe 8800GT supports VC1 DXVA, at least in Nvidia's site I haven't found anything denying it... but remember tha NVidia DXVA in VC1 is not full (ATI's DXVA is full), is only partial.

I have tryed with MPC video decoder and DXVA is not working.

Vista = EVR Renderer for DXVA. For any DXVA capable Decoder for VC1/H264

[rack04]

This is not the decoder, is the video format.

I was refering to the MPC-HC internal VC1 (DXVA) decoder.

[jos99]

Does anyone have a VC1 sample that is DXVA compliant? I've tried numerous HD DVD movies encoded with VC1 but I can't get any to play with DXVA acceleration. Nvidia says that the 8800gt can accelerate VC1 but I have yet to prove that. Thanks.

This one (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/thedarkknight/trailer_3/DKTRL3_1080.wmv.zip)works with DXVA using ATi and MPC-HC, w/about 6% CPU.

[Casimir666]

I was refering to the MPC-HC internal VC1 (DXVA) decoder.

As yesgrey3 says just above mpc-hc decoder support only bitstream decoding, so :
- if you have an nVidia use Microsoft DMO decoder (because it support IDCT/MC accelerator)
- if you have an ATI, use mpc-hc decoder (because it support bitstream decoding)

[CruNcher]

Hmm i realized that .wmv seems to have some kind of Anamorphic Flag and it seems that not much (Parser/Decoder) combination understand that to me it almost looks like as only WMP 11 handles such .wmv correct MPC-HC seems to show such Anamorphic Videos as their bitstream flagged native res with fffdshow and Microsofts Decoder alike ?

i have a 1440x1080 native 4:3 stream here that seems to be flagged as 16:9 so 4:3 in the container level .wmv (i guess or bitstream) but MPC-HC shows it (when Microsofts Decoder is used) @ the native 1440x1080 ignoring the 4:3 signaling 1440x1080->1920x1080 WMP11 does it (what seems to be at least) correct (VMR9 Windowed) happens with alot of 1440x1080 streams MPC-HC somehow ignores the signaling and Displays them 1440x1080 or WMP11 automatically assumes the Anamorphic nature and apply's the Signaling on the RUN (would mean there is no Signaling @ all) does someone knows the VC-1/WMV9 specs how what is handled correctly (im not sure that 1440x1080 should automatically be processed as being Anamorphic is correct) anyway so or so MPC-HC would be wrong handling such streams ?


General
Complete name : F:\x264-studio\autoanamorphtest.wmv
Format : Windows Media
File size : 398 MiB
Duration : 6mn 47s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 8 204 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 8 256 Kbps
Writing application : 6.0.6000.16386 / Windows Movie Maker
Application : Windows Movie Maker 6.0.6000.16386
AspectRatioX : 1440
AspectRatioY : 1920

Video
Format : VC-1
Format profile : MP@HL
Codec ID : WMV3
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint : WMV3
Description of the codec : Windows Media Video 9 - Professional
Duration : 6mn 46s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 8 000 Kbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.172
Language : en-us

Audio
Format : WMA2
Format profile : L3
Codec ID : 161
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Audio 2
Description of the codec : Windows Media Audio 9.2 - 192 kbps, 48 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR
Duration : 6mn 47s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : en-us

Imho a good Player should finally give the user the possibilities to chose @ which scaling he wants to watch the stream @ and even make it possible for them to easily switch on the fly between non Anamorph and Anamorph Results (Container,Bitstream Level) via a very clear defined Option :)
Maybe a small button on the bottom of the Player that automatically gets triggered first on the container level Signaling and then when pushed uses the Bitstream Level Signaling, pushed again no Anamorphic display state plain resolution input->output (current status also should be shown to the user in the OSD) <- see this as a feature request Casimir666, i guess such on the fly resolution changes should be at least possible with VMR9/EVR ? :)


MPC: Info Output
Audio: Windows Media Audio 48000Hz stereo 192Kbps [Raw Audio 0]
Video: Windows Media Video 9 1440x1080 (16:9) 29.97fps 8000Kbps [Raw Video 1] <- so it should be displayed as 1920x1080, though it stays currently 1440x1080

i checked all the AR given options in MPC-HC no chance i couldn't get it right the Aspect Ratio overwrite doesn't seem to work @ all no matter if i select Default->4:3->5:4->16:9 it still get's shown as 1.33 instead of 1.78 (with 4:3)

WMP11 Properties output:
Aspect Ratio 4:3 default, 16:9 shown

[Atak_Snajpera]

I have got several AVCHD files in m2ts container produced by Canon HF100 camcorder. I think they are 1080i 50hz interlaced samples. All of them perfectly playable by the latest ffdshow and by PowerDVD 8 (DXVA on) on my 9600GT. But MPC-HC plays them with a strange jerkiness that appears every few seconds. It seems like it starts playing ok for some time and then several wrong frames are displayed and then it goes back to normal for several seconds and so on.
Is it a known bug? Any workarounds?

Give us sample. Use www.mediafire.com

[rack04]

I'm trying to determine what might be causing the grey bar at the bottom of this video.

Using MPC-HC revision 925, VMR9 (renderless), H264 (DXVA) transform filter, and 16-235->0-255 shader I get a grey bar at the bottom of the video.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rack04/snapshot20081217143816.jpg

Using MPC-HC revision 925, VMR9 (renderless), H264 (FFmpeg) transform filter, and 16-235->0-255 shader everything is fine.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rack04/snapshot20081217143234.jpg

[GTPVHD]

Don't use the shader, set the Dynamic Range to Full (0-255) in the Nvidia Control Panel if you use driver 178.24 or higher.

[73ChargerFan]

- if you have an nVidia use Microsoft DMO decoder (because it support IDCT/MC accelerator)
How can I use the Microsoft DMO decoder?
ffdshow insists on rendering in software, even though I selected ms decoder for WVC1 in its codec selection box.

System Specs:
MPC-HC v918, VMR9 Renderless, VC1 decoders disabled
Haali splitter for .TS files
Computer is Intel Q6600 2.4ghz, nVidia 8600GTS, Windows XP SP3

[clsid]

Use the Microsoft decoder without ffdshow. Otherwise you are certainly not going to get DXVA activated.

[cr0]

Well I haven't managed to fix my problem, but I did work around it by patching MPC-HC to only use DXVA for videos with a resolution of at least 1280x720. I have no need for hardware decoding of SD resolution videos anyways.

I don't know if anyone else is having this issue, but I've attached the patch/diff to this post.

All I did was patch the DXVA check to think that any file with a smaller resolution is not DXVA compatible.

If anyone knows what the actual root problem is, that would be great :p

I have created another patch to allow enable/disable decoding of interlaced H264 content via DXVA. STaRGaZeR requested this. If anyone else is interested, I can provide patch file or if interest is great enough, submit another patch to MPC-HC.

Also I'm curious if checking frame_mbs_only_flag = 0 is the best way to detect interlaced content?

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 926 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/492/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 926 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/491/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Updated FFmpeg

[darthfrueder]

Give us sample. Use www.mediafire.com

OK The sample of AVCHD interlaced footage that stutters when played by MPC-HC with DXVA (PowerDVD8 and ffdshow can play this file without any problems):


http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=86a6322081b51370d2db6fb9a8902bda

I would really appreciate if someone would solve this problem. :thanks:

[yesgrey]

How can I use the Microsoft DMO decoder?


Another way is adding it to MPC-HC external filters list and set the merit to prefer. And remember what clsid referred, no ffdshow, or the dxva is disabled!

[CruNcher]

Correction to my http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1225247&postcount=5255 post it is actually a Problem in combination between MPC-HC and Microsofts Decoder with ffdshow it applies the AR correct

MPC-HC Info output (ffdshow):
Video Size = 1440 x 1080 (AR 16:9) :)

MPC-HC Info output (WMVideo Decoder DMO):
Video Size = 1440 x 1088 (AR 4:3) :(

also the AR override works with ffdshow but doesn't with Microsofts Decoder :(

[Aleksoid1978]

Correction to my http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1225247&postcount=5255 post it is actually a Problem in combination between MPC-HC and Microsofts Decoder with ffdshow it applies the AR correct

MPC-HC Info output (ffdshow):
Video Size = 1440 x 1080 (AR 16:9) :)

MPC-HC Info output (WMVideo Decoder DMO):
Video Size = 1440 x 1088 (AR 4:3) :(

also the AR override works with ffdshow but doesn't with Microsofts Decoder :(

ffdshow support read AR from videostream, but WMVideo Decoder DMO - NO.
Internal MPC-HC video decoder too support read AR from stream.

[CruNcher]

But how is it working in WMP11 then ?
yep changed now to the internal MPC-Video Decoder by blocking Microsofts DMO Decoder and indeed AR works, but no reading from Bitstream is selected so it should get it from the Container

[war59312]

Hi,

How to have MPC-HC automatically close after playback of a DVD?

I figured out how for other file times my using the register editor on the following key and adding /close to the end:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\mplayerc.xxx\shell\open\command

But what about DVDs?

Thanks,

Will

[chros]

i have no problems whatsoever, not in games and not with VMR9. maybe you should use driver sweeper (http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/) and try a fresh install of the drivers?
As I said, fresh install: WinXP SP3 and the drivers ...

Can you/someone look for the apropriate regkeys?
(nvidia dynamic range values for "Full" for both monitors)

It's drive me crazy ... :)

Thanks