Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[saint-francis]

DXVA working fine here also.

Vista x64
3870
cat 9.1
MPC HC 942

[pdanpdan]

DXVA working as before.

XP SP3
2400
cat 9.1
MPC HC 1.2.987

[hoborg]

I Confirm. XP, 4670.

Same here. XPSP3, HD4550

[Snowknight26]

A friend of mine has an issue (which I can't reproduce) where whenever he plays something and closes MPC-HC, the exe is still in the process list and won't play other files till its been killed. Happens for both 64- and 32-bit versions. Any insight about this?

[leeperry]

whenever he plays something and closes MPC-HC, the exe is still in the process list and won't play other files till its been killed.
I've had this problem for a LONG time, and so do many friends from HCFR.
I've always thought that it was related to a deadlock w/ ffdshow, as it also happens w/ audio files.
ages ago I asked Casimir if MPC HC could kill any already running MPC when it opens, and kill the process when it closes....but that didn't happen, as he can't reproduce.

it never happens w/ KMPlayer.

[Jay Bee]

The Cyberlink filter still works with MPC-HC if you have Catalyst 9.1?

Can you post a DXVA Checker screenshot with the Catalyst 9.1 here?

I don't know if it works with MPC-HC as I only use the standalone filters.

List seems a bit short?
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7641/zwischenablagebildpu5.png

But I know that AVC DXVA is working with Cyberlink as I'm watching HDTV with DVBViewer at 8% CPU.

[clsid]

I've had this problem for a LONG time, and so do many friends from HCFR.
I've always thought that it was related to a deadlock w/ ffdshow, as it also happens w/ audio files.
ages ago I asked Casimir if MPC HC could kill any already running MPC when it opens, and kill the process when it closes....but that didn't happen, as he can't reproduce.

it never happens w/ KMPlayer.
I have rarely seen MPC deadlock during close. Most freezing issues that I have seen are during file loading.

One effective way of making MPC freeze is the following:
1) Open up an explorer window for a directory that contains a bunch of audio/video files.
2) Start MPC.
3) Drag&Drop a file into the MPC window
4) Repeat step 3 until a freeze occurs. May take a dozen or more attempts. Dragging and dropping quickly increases the chance of success (in triggering a failure :p).

[leeperry]

One effective way of making MPC freeze is the following:
[...]
Drag&Drop a file into the MPC window
oh yes, I've had this one too....never drag'n drop on MPC :p

[clsid]

It is just an easy way to replicate the issue. But it can also happen when opening files 'normally' by double-clicking in explorer.

[leeperry]

It is just an easy way to replicate the issue. But it can also happen when opening files 'normally' by double-clicking in explorer.
It might have also happened to me, but many times(especially in EVR w/ the Avisynth filter of ffdshow enabled), it has remained as a process when closed. I even gave a "Process Monitor" log to Casimir, and apparently it was ffdshow creating the deadlock.
It also happens to many ppl on HCFR w/ the same config.

[Snowknight26]

Well in my friends case, it happens without ffdshow.

Edit: I just got word that audio still plays even though the main window was supposedly closed.

[ash925]

dxva not working with cat 9.1 on win xp sp2 ,hd4850,.Tried mpc-hc 986,987

[her34]

bookmarks/favorites are broken in current version 987

i traced back and found last correctly working version is 980. in 981 it doesn't work properly.

the problem happens when you restore a bookmark for a video that is longer than the video you are currently watching.

so suppose you are watching video1 which is 10 minutes long. if you then restore a bookmark for video2 saved at 30minute mark, mpc will load video2 at 10minute mark. if you restore the same bookmark again while now in video2, mpc will go to 30minute mark.

[Pr3d]

I didn't manage to do any updates to the renders this weekend, but I got stuck installing a PC with NVidia graphics card and XP+XPx64+Vistax64+Windows7x64

Nice.
Did you have any problem to make working DXVA on Windows 7 X64?
Im asking this because im using this OS with MPCHC X64 908 and im not able to use that functionality. MPC Video Decoder always says me "Not using Dxva" and i dont know why.
This doesnt happen on Vista X64 with the same config.

Thanks.

[Snowknight26]

Be sure you're using the ATI drivers from the website, not the ones from Windows Update.


With r987, when playing a DTS-HD MA track, there is audio corruption when seeking. 16, 24, 32-bit (even when not seeking), and even IEEE Float output formats exhibit this issue.
Also, the volume for DTS-HD MA tracks (or DTS rather) is louder than usual.

Edit: Some more issues. Switching audio tracks (from DTS to that aformentioned AC3 track) takes upwards of 5 seconds. Switching back from AC3 -> DTS(-HD MA) takes a long time too but causes the app to crash.

Samples:
http://www.stfcc.org/misc/00000.cut.m2ts
http://www.stfcc.org/misc/00000.cut2.m2ts (easier with this one, its double the size)

Edit: And some more.. MPC-HC x64 won't play FLAC files. It opens them but pauses the track at the end. Unpausing then seeking anywhere results in it going back to the end of the track.

Edit: Really on a roll here. Seeking through that Blu-ray (interlaced H.264) sometimes causes visual corruption that lasts for approx 1-5 frames. DXVA was enabled.

http://www.stfcc.org/misc/mpc-hc.r987.png

Edit: Hmm. The audio corruption seems to happen with all formats.

[Pr3d]

Be sure you're using the ATI drivers from the website, not the ones from Windows Update.

Are you talking to me?
Anyway, im using the website driver (for Seven ones), even if i think they're not necessary.
Hasn't MPCHC its own internal codecs to make the DXVA working?

[clsid]

Proper functioning of DXVA and all other video playback depends on correctly working drivers.

[rica]

Hi guys.
I've been trying to find out a workaround to Vista mixer's down-conversion issue. What i want to do is to get original audio from my speakers over analog cables to my ordinary receiver.

Please have a look at this post first:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1244414#post1244414

So the question is you authors would you add WASAPI output support to MPC_HC, maybe over madflac?

Thanks.


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[Beliyaal]

Weekly report.

SVN changes:
Changed: Merged old and new Bluray clip info into old code
Changed: More information (such as bitrate, channels etc) for Bluray streams even with clip info available
Fixed: Made old Bluray clip info work with network paths

Beliyaal build changes:
Added: You can now double click index.bdmv or MovieObject.bdmv to start a bluray with playlist support (instead of opening with Open DVD in menu). You need to select playlists and reset in file associations.

New build with these changes available in signature.

Noticed:
The new 9.1 ATI drivers seems to have glitches, missing VSyncs with Vista desktop composition (not visible in jitter graph). Worked out that the best MPC-HC results are achieved by (for Radeon 4870x2 at 1920x1080x23.976):
* Disabling desktop composition (right click on mplayerc.exe and check "Disable desktop composition" in Compatibility tab).
* EVR Custom with: D3D Fullscreen[ ] Alternate VSync[X] Lock backbuffer[X] EVR Buffers 20
* Select accurate VSync in Renderer Settings
* Change VSync offset to about -6

[Ger]

bookmarks/favorites are broken in current version 987

i traced back and found last correctly working version is 980. in 981 it doesn't work properly.

the problem happens when you restore a bookmark for a video that is longer than the video you are currently watching.

so suppose you are watching video1 which is 10 minutes long. if you then restore a bookmark for video2 saved at 30minute mark, mpc will load video2 at 10minute mark. if you restore the same bookmark again while now in video2, mpc will go to 30minute mark.

I have also been noticing erratic bookmark functionality lately, but since I've been using mostly Beliyaal's builds I thought it might be a side effect from one of his changes, but I couldn't reproduce reliably so I didn't quite know what to report.

But if you've nailed it down to SVN build 981 then it must be caused by Aleksoid's seek range fix, so perhaps Aleksoid or one of the other devs can have a look at how this change could break the bookmark function under certain circumstances. :thanks:

[Mercury_22]

Weekly report.

SVN changes:
Changed: Merged old and new Bluray clip info into old code
Changed: More information (such as bitrate, channels etc) for Bluray streams even with clip info available
Fixed: Made old Bluray clip info work with network paths

Beliyaal build changes:
Added: You can now double click index.bdmv or MovieObject.bdmv to start a bluray with playlist support (instead of opening with Open DVD in menu). You need to select playlists and reset in file associations.

New build with these changes available in signature.

Noticed:
The new 9.1 ATI drivers seems to have glitches, missing VSyncs with Vista desktop composition (not visible in jitter graph). Worked out that the best MPC-HC results are achieved by (for Radeon 4870x2 at 1920x1080x23.976):
* Disabling desktop composition (right click on mplayerc.exe and check "Disable desktop composition" in Compatibility tab).
* EVR Custom with: D3D Fullscreen[ ] Alternate VSync[X] Lock backbuffer[X] EVR Buffers 20
* Select accurate VSync in Renderer Settings
* Change VSync offset to about -6

:thanks: for the new changes but no fix for the DTS-XLL bug ? :( :helpful:

P.S. Why not include ALL the changes from your version in the SVN version too (merge) ? since as far as I can see there are NOT MAJOR BUGS SPECIFIC to your version (I CAN'T find any) and SVN are NOT "oficial releases" ?

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 988 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/620/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Changed: Merged old and new Bluray clip info into old code; Changed: More information (such as bitrate, channels etc) for Bluray streams even with clip info available; Fixed: Made old Bluray clip info work with network paths.

[Snowknight26]

Hah, the archives are roughly 1.5x that of r987's.

[rahzel]

dxva not working with cat 9.1 on win xp sp2 ,hd4850,.Tried mpc-hc 986,987
Add me to list of people who can't get DXVA working with Cat 9.1 using XP Pro SP3. :( Seems like it's XP users only.

I'm starting to dislike ATI's Catalyst Crew more and more. Since I've owned my HD3200, I've had problems fixed, but new ones introduced with every driver release. First it was slow 2D performance while internet browsing, which was FINALLY fixed just recently. Then they added the Pixel Format option which wouldn't stick on YCbCr, always reverted back to RGB FULL 444. Now that's fixed, and they break DXVA with XP.

[Mc Onyx]

Can anyone look into AAC decoding of 7.1 channels, it doesn't work with internal AAC decoder, or with FFDshow. Not sure what's wrong, but all i get is crackling, also tested on other computers. Thanks.

[ADude]

P.S. Why not include ALL the changes from your version in the SVN version too (merge) ? since as far as I can see there are NOT MAJOR BUGS SPECIFIC to your version (I CAN'T find any) and SVN are NOT "oficial releases" ?

Because the bugs in the Beliyaal version reported days ago have still not been fixed, such as that .FLV file playback is broken in the Beliyaal version but works fine in the equivalent SVN version. I play low quality .FLV files regularly in addition to HD .MKV files, so it is "major" to me.

[Beliyaal]

:thanks: for the new changes but no fix for the DTS-XLL bug ? :( :helpful:


As you may have noticed the changes were minor, and I didn't have time to fix the DTS switching bug.

P.S. Why not include ALL the changes from your version in the SVN version too (merge) ? since as far as I can see there are NOT MAJOR BUGS SPECIFIC to your version (I CAN'T find any) and SVN are NOT "oficial releases" ?

There are still many bugs, and playback on NVidia hardware is not working well.

[pbmtp]

Hi Beliyaal,

i tested your latest version (i am using a nvidia card gf8800 GT using latest 181.22 driver, WinXP SP3). If i select EVR it works, if i select EVR custom presenter, your mpc-hc version fail back to standard video renderer. EVR Custom presenter wors for me in standard MPC-HC from svn.

Thanks

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi Beliyaal,

i tested your latest version (i am using a nvidia card gf8800 GT using latest 181.22 driver, WinXP SP3). If i select EVR it works, if i select EVR custom presenter, your mpc-hc version fail back to standard video renderer. EVR Custom presenter wors for me in standard MPC-HC from svn.

Thanks

Why you use EVR/EVR Custom in WinXP ??? DXVA not work in WinXP+EVR.

[Beliyaal]

Hi Beliyaal,

i tested your latest version (i am using a nvidia card gf8800 GT using latest 181.22 driver, WinXP SP3). If i select EVR it works, if i select EVR custom presenter, your mpc-hc version fail back to standard video renderer. EVR Custom presenter wors for me in standard MPC-HC from svn.

Thanks

Could you try if it works if you install the latest DirectX redist (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=886acb56-c91a-4a8e-8bb8-9f20f1244a8e)?

[pbmtp]

Hi,

i dont use DXVA, i do some postprocessing using ffdshow, i prefer EVR CP as it is smoother than the other renderer available on my hw/software. I am already using lastest DirectX redist.

[Beliyaal]

Hi,

i dont use DXVA, i do some postprocessing using ffdshow, i prefer EVR CP as it is smoother than the other renderer available on my hw/software. I am already using lastest DirectX redist.

Ok, are you absolutely sure that you have installed the redist? This is not the same as the latest version of DirectX and includes D3DX which is separate from D3D. I had the same issue on my XP until I upgraded to SP3 and installed the redist and .Net 3.5. It might be .Net as well .Net 3.5 download (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=ab99342f-5d1a-413d-8319-81da479ab0d7&displaylang=en)

[pbmtp]

Hi,

I have .Net 3.5 + sp1 installed and the lastest d3dx9_XX.dll i have has number 40. And the exact same config works in EVR CP using latest mpc-hc from svn.

[Px]

Why you use EVR/EVR Custom in WinXP ??? DXVA not work in WinXP+EVR.
http://forum.ixbt.com/post.cgi?id=attach:10:51719:3091:1
;)

[loretta80]

Is it true that some nvidia cards are able to accelerate High@L5.1 profiles and Ati cards not?

[pdanpdan]

WinXp+EVR on ATI - DXVA workd only for VC-1

[wOxxOm]

XPsp3en - MPCHC 1.2.958.0 - internal h264 decoder (FFmpeg) + Haali renderer - garbled or no display at all when playing mkv ordered chapters (linked segments) video file for about 10 seconds of just selected chapter. FFDShow/CoreAVC @ MPCHC = ok. KMPlayer (built-in h264) = ok.

internal h264 decoder (FFmpeg) + EVR c/a = ok

[ADude]

MPC-HC (build 979) will not play back correctly a 720p .MOV quicktime file with AAC audio.

The file plays fine with VLC.

With MPC-HC, the audio glitches - and I cannot tell whether it is maxing the CPU or not, because whenenver I take it off fullscreen, MPC-HC crashes (only with this one file). The FILTER menu selection is grayed out.

[war59312]

Crash when trying to play this file:

http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/gijoe/gijoeriseofcobra-sbspot_h1080p.mov

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: mplayerc.exe
Application Version: 1.2.988.0
Application Timestamp: 498624cc
Fault Module Name: QuickTime.qts
Fault Module Version: 7.60.92.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 49628b19
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000096bf
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160


Plays fine in WMP 11.

Running Vista SP1 x86.

[xiulet]

Crash when trying to play this file:

http://movies.apple.com/movies/paramount/gijoe/gijoeriseofcobra-sbspot_h1080p.mov



Plays fine in WMP 11.

Running Vista SP1 x86.

works ok for me :) mpc hcx32 988, coreaac.

in the other hand, I am using the new free(only reproduction) divx7 x264, several days ago, and it's fine, less cpu consumition than coreavc and better grain resolution( i thing so), and so better quality than dxva mpc hc(notorius). I have some captures to uploat, if someone interesting in :)

thanks you, adéu.

[flanger216]

I'm getting broken playback of .dts files when using the internal DTS/AC3 source filter. It seems to be playing them back ~5% too fast: the reported duration is too short and the pitch is too high.

Quick update: these problems only occur when using Reclock. Otherwise, all DTS files playback fine. However, 44.1khz DTS files still report an incorrect duration - usually too short by about 20 seconds. This is as of revision 988.

[pbmtp]

Beliyaal,

perhaps you could provide me with a debug version that log the error before failing back to default renderer while trying to initialize EVR CP ?

[stax76]

I created a thread about adding a plugin interface to MPC so MPC can be extended with new features by plugins, the thread can be found here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144748).

[ADude]

in the other hand, I am using the new free(only reproduction) divx7 x264, several days ago, and it's fine, less cpu consumition than coreavc and better grain resolution( i thing so), and so better quality than dxva mpc hc(notorius).

I think that you are confused about the names.

x264 is encoding software that creates H.264 files (also known as "AVC" files).

DIVX is a company that makes encoding software, and also releases a player and decoder in the package.

So, if you can clarify what you are talking about, that would be helpful.

All of this discussion is very technical, so it makes it hard to follow if people do not use the right terms for what they are talking about.

[xiulet]

I think that you are confused about the names.

x264 is encoding software that creates H.264 files (also known as "AVC" files).

DIVX is a company that makes encoding software, and also releases a player and decoder in the package.

So, if you can clarify what you are talking about, that would be helpful.

All of this discussion is very technical, so it makes it hard to follow if people do not use the right terms for what they are talking about.

o.k i am talking about this:
http://www.papuweb.com/fotoweb/forum/divx%20h.264.JPG

sorry for my english.

adéu.

[DeathWolf]

mmm, if someone's motivated enough, could he/she try to modify the internal mkv splitter to actually overwrite the stream's ar flag in case there's already a container one?(fairly common case, and which has the problem that with coreavc, for example, the stream ar takes prescedence, because of nasty avc in avi issues for example)

[ADude]

sorry for my english.

It doesn't have to do with English, "H.264" is not in English. :D

It is just copying the name just as it was shown: "Divx7 H.264 decoder".

Anyway, the problems that two of us are having with MOV files are with the internal decoder.

So, the question is - how do I get MPC-HC to use external filters on this MOV file ? If I uncheck the MP4/MOV internal source filter, MPC-HC still plays back the file exactly the same, and again with FILTERS grayed out in the menu.

[littleD]

So, the question is - how do I get MPC-HC to use external filters on this MOV file ? If I uncheck the MP4/MOV internal source filter, MPC-HC still plays back the file exactly the same, and again with FILTERS grayed out in the menu.

Fastest way is to rename .mov to .hdmov. As a source filter u can use also haali.

[xiulet]

It doesn't have to do with English, "H.264" is not in English. :D

It is just copying the name just as it was shown: "Divx7 H.264 decoder".

Anyway, the problems that two of us are having with MOV files are with the internal decoder.

So, the question is - how do I get MPC-HC to use external filters on this MOV file ? If I uncheck the MP4/MOV internal source filter, MPC-HC still plays back the file exactly the same, and again with FILTERS grayed out in the menu.

ok, i don't know, i am using quicktime alternative , and filters grayed out too.

salutacions, adéu.

[Mercury_22]

It doesn't have to do with English, "H.264" is not in English. :D

It is just copying the name just as it was shown: "Divx7 H.264 decoder".

Anyway, the problems that two of us are having with MOV files are with the internal decoder.

So, the question is - how do I get MPC-HC to use external filters on this MOV file ? If I uncheck the MP4/MOV internal source filter, MPC-HC still plays back the file exactly the same, and again with FILTERS grayed out in the menu.

Just change MPC's Quicktime format to directshow ! :)