Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[luojs]

Why not just deactivate your screensaver completely?

Unless you're using a plasma monitor there's no need to fear the image being burnt in...

np: Markus Guentner - Donaunebel (Pop Ambient 2002)

My PC's main function is a "Computer"(For some reason,I need ScreenSaver),HTPC function for my HD LCD just a temporary setup(I am waiting for my popcornhours A-100 Hardware Player come in next month).

BTW:TheaterMode for EVR is useless,And disable it will prevent Screensaver kicking in when I play full screen on TV.

[leeperry]

EVR has grey bars though

I gave a link on the previous page to fix that.

or just resize to your native resolution with ffdshow like I do ;)

[tetsuo55]

Have to use the internal MPC subtitle engine, no DirectVobSub. Of course need to use VMR renderless mode or EVR custom presenter.

i have vmr9 enabled already, the subtitles are embedded in the mkv file, how can i enable the internal sub renderer? (i have already disabled vobsub)

[leonowski]

mpc-hc and *.ax r.421:
http://rapidshare.com/files/94552813/mpc-hc.and.filters.r421.zip.html

Hi _xxl,

Thank you for posting this. The VC-1 bitstream decoder with DXVA runs great on my system.

Would it be possible to compile 2 separate MPC Video Decoder .ax filters? One for WVC1 and one for H264? I ask because I have an ATI card that seems to have problems when playing H264 files but no problems with WVC1. I am having trouble getting the filter merits worked out and I either get the MPC filter taking control of everything or taking control of nothing (unregistered). 2 separate versions of the decoder for each FOURCC would help greatly.

If it is not possible, thanks for this great stuff anyways! Awesome!

[tetsuo55]

Never mind i go it

1 set vmr 9 renderless
2 enable "autoload subtitles" in the mpc main options
3 disable both directvobsubs

tada subs and dxva :D

[ACrowley]

Hi _xxl,

Thank you for posting this. The VC-1 bitstream decoder with DXVA runs great on my system.

Would it be possible to compile 2 separate MPC Video Decoder .ax filters? One for WVC1 and one for H264? I ask because I have an ATI card that seems to have problems when playing H264 files but no problems with WVC1. I am having trouble getting the filter merits worked out and I either get the MPC filter taking control of everything or taking control of nothing (unregistered). 2 separate versions of the decoder for each FOURCC would help greatly.

If it is not possible, thanks for this great stuff anyways! Awesome!

@leonowsik
Download the latest Build with .ax Files.
http://rs339.rapidshare.com/files/94552813/mpc-hc.and.filters.r421.zip
The MPC VideoDecoder.ax is the Decoder with DXVA for VC1 and H264
Simply use/set it for VC1 and H264 in any DShowplayer. I use it in Zoomplayer, works perfect :)

I have a ATI HD3870 and DXVA for H264 works perfect.

[Ingram]

If you look elsewhere in this thread and the Forum, EVR has better picture quality and solves some other problems.

I just installed Net.3 to play with EVR on my main PC.

Do you think I should also install Net.3 on my HTPC (2800+ Barton, ATI 9800 Pro) which I use MPC HT/Zoom Player, always with Reclock and always VMR9 Renderless?

Would I see an improvement in performance etc?

[leeperry]

no need for .net

here's a package I updated with the latest EVR.DLL from Vista SP1 final :
http://www.badongo.com/file/7985462

[St Devious]

can nvidia 7600 gt be used to accelerate h264 ?

[Sirber]

@Sirber

Isn't that in the Options=>Internal Filters=>Transform Filters=>H264/AVC (DXVA)?

MPC HC rev421 (http://rapidshare.com/files/94295901/mplayerc.hc.r421.zip.html)

Oh thanks! the one on sourceforge doesn't :)

[leonowski]

@leonowsik
Download the latest Build with .ax Files.
http://rs339.rapidshare.com/files/94552813/mpc-hc.and.filters.r421.zip
The MPC VideoDecoder.ax is the Decoder with DXVA for VC1 and H264
Simply use/set it for VC1 and H264 in any DShowplayer. I use it in Zoomplayer, works perfect :)

I have a ATI HD3870 and DXVA for H264 works perfect.

Hi ACrowley,

Thanks for responding. I too use the videodecoder.ax in directshow players. I was just wondering if there was a way to separate the filter into 2 different filters: 1 specific for H264 and 1 specific for VC1. On my system, I have H264 working very well with a different decoder but I would like the VC1 decoderas a separate .ax.

In any case, this is my problem and not within the scope of this thread. I just thought I would ask. No biggie. Thanks anyways.

[_xxl]

can nvidia 7600 gt be used to accelerate h264 ?
No, yet.Only nvidia 8xxx series and ATI HD.

[_xxl]

mpc-hc r.422:
http://rapidshare.com/files/94855114/mplayerc.hc.r422.rar.html

[ADude]

There is no need to import GRF : MPC can read EVO directly if you set-up properly internal/external filters.
Little tips :
- disable AC3/DTS and Mpeg internal filters
- install latest Haali splitter, and enable MPEG TS/PS source
- add all unwanted filters in "External filters" and set "block" radio button

I'm having difficulties with this.

I currently have MPC-HC setup nicely to play .MKV files using Haali and CoreAVC and SPDIFER in the external filters. .AVI files use ffdshow and SPDIFER. VC-1 files using Matroska container player nicely with Haali, WMVdecoder and AC3FILTER, etc.

.EVO defaulted to Zoom Player (since it was not setup in MPC-HC) and played with Haali, WMVdecoder but no sound decoder at all. When I changed the .EVO default to MPC-HC, it played the audio only but no video screen at all.

Thanks for any and all assistance !

PS I don't see "MPEG TS/PS" in any list.

[DrNein]

can nvidia 7600 gt be used to accelerate h264 ?

No, yet.Only nvidia 8xxx series and ATI HD.

_xxl, I suppose you mean with this ffmpeg based decoder however CyberLink's AVC decoder works well with Nvidia 7000 series. The video processor (VP1) is not on par with current VP2 and UVD though.

[clsid]

I was just wondering if there was a way to separate the filter into 2 different filters: 1 specific for H264 and 1 specific for VC1. On my system, I have H264 working very well with a different decoder but I would like the VC1 decoderas a separate .ax.Options will be added to the filter that will allow you to configure which formats it should decode. Those options are already available in MPC, but not yet in the standalone filter.

[tetsuo55]

I'm having difficulties with this.

I currently have MPC-HC setup nicely to play .MKV files using Haali and CoreAVC and SPDIFER in the external filters. .AVI files use ffdshow and SPDIFER. VC-1 files using Matroska container player nicely with Haali, WMVdecoder and AC3FILTER, etc.

.EVO defaulted to Zoom Player (since it was not setup in MPC-HC) and played with Haali, WMVdecoder but no sound decoder at all. When I changed the .EVO default to MPC-HC, it played the audio only but no video screen at all.

Thanks for any and all assistance !

PS I don't see "MPEG TS/PS" in any list.

Interesting, any special reason for choosing spdifier over ac3filter?

[tetsuo55]

Has anyone been able to get the filters setting just right so that MPC-HC can decode the following formats? when possible using DXVA

HDDVD + all audio formats
Bluray + all audio formats
DVD + all audio formats


My spdif decoder supports as highest:
ac3 > Dolby Digital EX2
dts > DTS-ES2

[Casimir666]

_xxl, I suppose you mean with this ffmpeg based decoder however CyberLink's AVC decoder works well with Nvidia 7000 series. The video processor (VP1) is not on par with current VP2 and UVD though.

Your card can accelerate motion compensation for H264, and for the moment mpc decoder support only bitstream mode (Power DVD support both).

Ffmpeg is used in mpc-hc mostly for software mode. In Dxva mode ffmpeg didn't decode, it only extract a few informations from frames header.

[ADude]

Interesting, any special reason for choosing spdifier over ac3filter?

SPDIFER is just the portion of AC3FILTER that passes output directly to the spdif output. It's simpler and more foolproof, since there are only a few settings.

I do use AC3FILTER for some specialized purposes (mostly converting surround formats other than AC3 and DTS to AC3 so that they can be decoded by my amplifier), and using two separate decoders makes it easier to leave each setup for its particular purpose.

[tetsuo55]

ahhh ic

Well in my case if have an X-fi in my pc that does all the ac3 and dts decoding so i never use the function to create ac3 streams from other media, but i do use ac3filters matrix for converting mp3 stereo tracks to 5,1 tracks, but i never use that function for any of the other audio formats, and the x-fi would actually be able to do it by itself (but its a pita to keep enabling and disabling it as i do not use that feature for music)

[rack04]

I'm using MPC-HC r422 set to VMR (Renderless) output on a 8800gt. Are there only certain instances when DXVA is used? The reason I ask is because of the 15 files I've tried only one seems to have DXVA activated. Thanks.

[samab]

mpc-hc r.422:
http://rapidshare.com/files/94855114/mplayerc.hc.r422.rar.html

Your new 422 build with SDK 36 works perfectly on my computer now. Thanx.

[ACrowley]

Hi ACrowley,

Thanks for responding. I too use the videodecoder.ax in directshow players. I was just wondering if there was a way to separate the filter into 2 different filters: 1 specific for H264 and 1 specific for VC1. On my system, I have H264 working very well with a different decoder but I would like the VC1 decoderas a separate .ax.

In any case, this is my problem and not within the scope of this thread. I just thought I would ask. No biggie. Thanks anyways.
Ah Ok
Maybe you should use Zoomplayer Customized Media Playback.
You can set Decoder/Filters for all Formats /Codecs
Set MPC-VideoDecoder for VC1 and your desired Decoder for h264

I ask the 3rd Time :
Pan&Scan mode isnt working here. When i set it to 16:9 (or other Mode) i get a Blackscreen. When i select Reset Picture comes Back ?

[phoenix_fr]

dxva support is integrated in "ffdshow tryout" ?

problem

If it combines with ffdshow mpc hc, we can not activ the dxva, because that disables the option to in mpc hc
To use the ffdshow filters

Unless there did a tip ?

[ACrowley]

No VC1/H264 DXVA in ffdshow

Only H264 Multithreading, not for VC1

[shambles]

i'd love it if the open file dialog could have an option to disable audio.. would be especially useful when using the dub feature, but also otherwise

it could be done like in graphedit with audio pins not being connected, i'd suppose?

[luojs]

Just noticed.When play big AVI/MKV files under VISTA.MPC HC will eat 150-300M or more of RAM.Even this,the HDD still quickly activate never stop untill playing of the file finished.

[jhoff80]

They are just really bad reencodes: low quality, low bitrate (3Mbps), non compliant, who knows what wacky settings. They are not particularly demanding for software-only decode though -especially given you have an HD3870 so must have a decent CPU too. So, if the practical problem is how to avoid having to disable DxVA to watch the bad files you already have then perhaps enable the "store settings to INI" option in MPC and plunk a copy of the program in a different folder to use different settings.

Would it be possible to detect these and force them to play in software only mode too? Unfortunately, a lot of my older reencodes are done like this, and the source .ts files were deleted a long time ago, and its hard to tell beforehand which episodes are encoded badly like this or not.

Also, could we get an x64 compiled version of the .ax filter please?

[yonta]

I'm using mpc hc build 422 and playing some vc-1 video with built-in mpc video decoder seems to have a problem.
mpc hc plays this file (http://www.sendspace.com/file/0b1fq3) with stuttering in software mode and won't even play(no picture) in hardware mode.

If I demux the vc-1 es and mux it to mkv using eac3to, everything is OK.

[_xxl]

Just noticed.When play big AVI/MKV files under VISTA.MPC HC will eat 150-300M or more of RAM.Even this,the HDD still quickly activate never stop untill playing of the file finished.
Had that issue too, also avi files crash random when internal avisplitter is used.

[chros]

@Casimir:
A huge thanks for fixing the subresync formatting tag bug !!! Can you point out where was the problem at the SVN? (since I have spent at least 2 hours to find out with no success :) )

Yet another request with subtitles:
can you make remember the built in engine to the last used subtitle tag like in VSFilter? (eg. EN, HU, ES)
Now, it uses always the alphabetical 1st one, which is very annoying ...

Example:
foo.avi
foo.EN.srt
foo.ES.srt

Now, it uses the EN subs, but VSfilter uses the ES if I have selected it on a previous file!

[audyovydeo]

Can someone post this r422 version on some permanent link ?

is the MPC-HC on sourceforge the official maintainer's page, or just an obsolesced permalink ?

where is the development page ?


thanks
audyovydeo

[clsid]

All the builds that are posted here are test builds. Once a stable version is ready it will be posted on the sourceforge website.

[Miryan]

Can someone post this r422 version on some permanent link ?

is the MPC-HC on sourceforge the official maintainer's page, or just an obsolesced permalink ?

where is the development page ?


thanks
audyovydeo

r422 permanent: http://dl2.usite.hu/player/Media.Player.Classic.Homecinema-1.0.11.8.422.zip

Until a new version comes out.

[Casimir666]

@Casimir:
A huge thanks for fixing the subresync formatting tag bug !!! Can you point out where was the problem at the SVN? (since I have spent at least 2 hours to find out with no success :) )
:eek:
I have done nothing about this. Maybe it was inside one Clsid patches :confused:


Yet another request with subtitles:
can you make remember the built in engine to the last used subtitle tag like in VSFilter? (eg. EN, HU, ES)
Now, it uses always the alphabetical 1st one, which is very annoying ...

Example:
foo.avi
foo.EN.srt
foo.ES.srt

Now, it uses the EN subs, but VSfilter uses the ES if I have selected it on a previous file!
I already have such idea : define 2 couples of prefered audio / subtitle, and autoselect primary or secondary couple automaticly. It's on my todo list, but can't tell you when it will be done

[clsid]

I haven't touched the subresync stuff either.

[adalbertoma]

Hey... Sorry if somebody has already asked this, but reading all these pages will be impossible.

What is the chance of an ATI X800XT AIW ever have hardware acceleration for 1080p mkv file H264 / X264?

Should I start to consider buying a new card or is there a light at the end of the tunnel?

Thanks!

[ACrowley]

Hey... Sorry if somebody has already asked this, but reading all these pages will be impossible.

What is the chance of an ATI X800XT AIW ever have hardware acceleration for 1080p mkv file H264 / X264?

Should I start to consider buying a new card or is there a light at the end of the tunnel?

Thanks!
never imho.....Ati AVIVO with H264 DXVA isnt supported by x800 Series


Get a ATI HD 3850 for cheap ~150Euro and youve all you need :)

[molitar]

I wish their was a way to get DXVA working with mkv files.. since it has to use Haali Splitter DXVA does not work on them files.. works great on mp4 files themselves but not mkv.

[ADude]

Hey... Sorry if somebody has already asked this, but reading all these pages will be impossible.

What is the chance of an ATI X800XT AIW ever have hardware acceleration for 1080p mkv file H264 / X264?

Should I start to consider buying a new card or is there a light at the end of the tunnel?

Thanks!

Some X264 1080p mkv files cannot be accelerated by any hardware, so best is to put your money into a faster CPU.

[molitar]

What are the best settings for MPC Video Decoder?

Threads: ?
H264 Skip Deblocking Mode: ?
IDCT Algorithm: ?

What would be the best settings for this setup?

Radeon 512MB HD 3870 Video Card
AMD Dual Core 4600+
2GB Dual Channel DDR800

[Yong]

default settings should be the best settings :p

h264 skip deblocking mode is for disable loop filter of certain type of frames, or set to all to disable on all frames.
this options is for when user's sytem is slow for decoding hi-def h264, or for debugging purpose.

hope my explaination is correct :p

[Pellaeon]

I have strange issue with VC-1 hardware decoder. The stream seems to decode properly only when MPC works in window. When working on full screen it produces strange artifacts every few seconds (looks similar to xvid-encoded movies with corrupted keyframes).

My hardware is Radeon HD2600XT with Catalyst 8.2. MPC is set to EVR custom

Any ideas?

[ADude]

So, is there a way to get an automatic email when there is a new "stable" version of MPC-Home Cinema ??

[Leak]

So, is there a way to get an automatic email when there is a new "stable" version of MPC-Home Cinema ??
It's not exactly an email, but take a look here (http://sourceforge.net/export/rss2_projfiles.php?group_id=170561). I wouldn't be surprised if there were some service out on the Internets that notifies you by mail if there's a new post in an RSS feed...

np: The Orb - The Truth Is... (The Dream)

[Miryan]

Casimir666, can you add this feature: When mpc opens a file, all the media files in the same directory to enqueue to playlist?

[leeperry]

yeah that'd be sweet :D

and also that when you select several files in explorer and rightclick "add to MPC queue" that it opens the files right away.

coz right now you need to open the playlist, and then click on the first file :eek:

[Shinigami-Sama]

yeah that'd be sweet :D

and also that when you select several files in explorer and double click "add to MPC queue" that it opens the files right away.

coz right now you need to open the playlist, and then click on the first file :eek:

:eek:
theres a playlist?!
holy shit

I never could find a playlist, but I wasn't looking hard

[xneo]

Options will be added to the filter that will allow you to configure which formats it should decode. Those options are already available in MPC, but not yet in the standalone filter.

I hope the "Options" added soon.
If standalone(ax) filter has the options like that,
it will be more powerful.