Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[thrawnrulz68]

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 12/18/2009 12:49:53 AM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Tom-PC
Description:
Faulting application mpc-hc.exe, version 1.3.1418.0, time stamp 0x4b276bc1, faulting module QuickTime.qts, version 7.65.17.80, time stamp 0x4afa620b, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x00009c2f, process id 0x1c38, application start time 0x01ca7fa5e39a89f1.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-12-18T05:49:53.000Z" />
<EventRecordID>26243</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>Tom-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>mpc-hc.exe</Data>
<Data>1.3.1418.0</Data>
<Data>4b276bc1</Data>
<Data>QuickTime.qts</Data>
<Data>7.65.17.80</Data>
<Data>4afa620b</Data>
<Data>c0000005</Data>
<Data>00009c2f</Data>
<Data>1c38</Data>
<Data>01ca7fa5e39a89f1</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

[betaking]

test last svn 1420 thrawnrulz68's problem not happen on my computer!
to tetsuo55: today i go back and test last svn 1420. last my repot problem not happen!thanks! !

[matthew_eli]

Hi, I found a little problem on H264 DXVA internal decoder: sometimes, during various h264 contents playing, a strange thing happens; let's see these 2 pics:

http://a.imagehost.org/t/0255/H264_DXVA_MPC-HC.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0255/H264_DXVA_MPC-HC) http://a.imagehost.org/t/0603/H264_DXVA_W7.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0603/H264_DXVA_W7)

The left one is a capture of a frame decoded with internal MCP-HC H264 decoder; the right one with Win7 DXVA decoder; it seems that with internal MPC-HC decoder this frame (and some of the previous ones) are "dirty": there are some artifacts and something like digital noise. The Win7 decoded scene are normal and clean instead. After few seconds the video decoded by internal MPC-HC decoder returns normal, like the decoder does a "reinitialization" and the picture becomes clean like the Win7 decoded one.

Is normal this behaviour?

my version is MPC-HC svn 1404 x86, my grapghic card is an intel g45(mobile) and my OS: Windows 7 x64 Professional. The only thing that I changed in this test are the internal decoder with the Win7 one. I did not change any setting of the internal decoder (n° of thread, error resilience, etc.):confused:

For those who wants to try this strange beahviour with g45 or X4500MHD, please try this file:

http://uploading.com/files/4a56268b/sample.mkv/

I hope this could help developers to fix this problem. Thanks:thanks:

[tetsuo55]

Hey thrawnrulz68,

I did some research on that problem, thanks to your debug logs i could find a lot more than i could before.

Quote microsoft:
"process may unexpectedly quit with a -1073741819 status code"
"This problem can be caused by an access violation that happens randomly because an uninitialized handle was passed by a downlevel layer."

In your case there can be 3 possible causes.
1. Symantec antivirus is causing it
2. You have a rootkit that is causing it
3. There is a bug in MPC-HC.

You have to rule out 1 and 2, then if you can still reproduce, we should have a new debug log to work from.

[Gleb Egorych]

Please test a couple of builds in between 1311 and 1417 to narrow down the range in which the problem was introduced.

Does it happen only with certain file types or video formats?
Does it happen if you disable the internal H.264 decoder?
Tested some xvidvideo.ru builds, b1356 no crash, the next b1369 crash.

Different containers (avi, mkv, internal splitters), H.264 (coreavc), different audio codecs (MP3, AC3). I don't use internal H.264 decoder.

[namaiki]

For those who wants to try this strange beahviour with g45 or X4500MHD, please try this file:

http://uploading.com/files/4a56268b/sample.mkv/

I hope this could help developers to fix this problem. Thanks:thanks:

matthew_eli: DXVA on 4500MHD does not perform deblocking. This also occurs in Splash Player, so I believe it is either an issue with the card or the drivers.

By doing the compatibilitymode registry entry, I believe you are making the 4500MHD process some files which it usually can't and that is why those artifacts occur.

[clsid]

I can confirm the QT fullscreen issue. Here it just freezes MPC.

It only happens when using the System Default renderer for QT. No problem when using DirectX 7/9 renderer.

[clsid]

I have gotten a report that recent versions of MPC-HC are no longer compatible with Windows 2000. The culprit seems to be a call to RegisterRawInputDevices in user32.dll, which is only supported on XP and above. A fix or workaround would be nice, even if it means disabling some functionality of MPC on win2000, people don't need media center remote support on that OS anyway.

[r4in]

DXVA problems with Catalyst 9.9+ after resume from sleep/hibernation

Hello,

I had mentioned in this forum before that DXVA support is broken in Catalyst 9.11. It seems that problem is deeper and doesn´t apply generally to all PCs. I found this topic and I can confirm it:

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=279&threadid=120591 (http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=279&threadid=120591)

So, it seems that DXVA playback brokes after resuming PC from sleep/hibernation when Catalyst past version 9.8 (i.e. 9.9 - 9.12) is used. The only know way (so far) how to fix it use version 9.8 and below. Hope there will be found different workaround - OR - dear engineers in AMD/ATI will fix it.

See ya.

[matthew_eli]

matthew_eli: DXVA on 4500MHD does not perform deblocking. This also occurs in Splash Player, so I believe it is either an issue with the card or the drivers.

By doing the compatibilitymode registry entry, I believe you are making the 4500MHD process some files which it usually can't and that is why those artifacts occur.

Yes, I could be ok, but why, if I use Windows 7 DXVA decoder in MPC-HC, the Macro-Blocking (or whatever it is) does not appear (see pic 2 in previous posts)? I don't think it would be a driver problem, because if it was it has to appear also with Win7 DXVA decoder...

[namaiki]

Are you sure that the 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder' was using DXVA? It *can* use DXVA, but it also has a software fallback. Does it say "Playing [DXVA]" in the Status Bar?

lol, if it does, then I am stumped..

[matthew_eli]

Are you sure it is using DXVA? Does it say "Playing [DXVA]" in the Status Bar?

lol, if it does, then I am stumped..

Yes it is...so it is stange...and Win7 DXVA decoder, decodes all videos, also High@5.1L with 16 ref frames

[namaiki]

wow.. this is realy cool. I really thought that these 4500MHDs were flawed..

[matthew_eli]

This is the proof:

http://g.imagehost.org/1000/sample_DXVA_Microsoft_g45.png

And this is the info of the file:

General
Complete name : F:\Video\V S01\V.2009.S01E04.720p.HDTV.x264-CTU.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 1.09 GiB
Duration : 41mn 16s
Overall bit rate : 3 790 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-11-25 02:48:35
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.3.0 ('Freak U') built on Oct 7 2008 20:39:59
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@3.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 41mn 14s
Bit rate : 3 266 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 3 339 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.148
Stream size : 963 MiB (86%)
Writing library : x264 core 68 r1184tw
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=3339 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 41mn 16s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 132 MiB (12%)



In this case the Microsoft Windows 7 DXVA decoder is used

[73ChargerFan]

Yes it is...so it is stange...and Win7 DXVA decoder, decodes all videos, also High@5.1L with 16 ref framesThis is the proof:
Your example is L3.1, not L5.1. ???

[tetsuo55]

I have gotten a report that recent versions of MPC-HC are no longer compatible with Windows 2000. The culprit seems to be a call to RegisterRawInputDevices in user32.dll, which is only supported on XP and above. A fix or workaround would be nice, even if it means disabling some functionality of MPC on win2000, people don't need media center remote support on that OS anyway.win2k was probably broken in commit 1391.

win2k is about to read end-of-life status soon anyway (already has for consumers)

I think a simple check for win2k could be inserted to completely skip the remote control support (but that would disable remote control support in win2k completely)

I was actually wondering why we didn't use rawinput before, this explains it.

Someone will have to step up and make this patch.

[73ChargerFan]

Update on my DTS-MA / SPDIF problem. THIS IS A HACK!
Windows 7 x64, onboard Realtek HDA to Pioneer 1015 receiver via spdif, matroska files with DTS-MA sound tracks.

Works !! Enable internal DTS source and disable internal DTS transform filter. Now I get AVI<>AC3/DTS and Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder in the filter chain.

With internal DTS transform filter enabled, the following things don't work (receiver says "stereo", no audio):
32-bit svn 1249 to current (tested every 20-30 revisions)
64-bit svn 1311 tested
Using spdifer 0.3b or ffdshow 3164 for passthrough
Changing output device to anything, default, waveout, specific output devices, etc.
Mpc-hc x64 doesn't work
Tried internal matroska filter & haali media splitter, no effect.
Tried Realtek & microsoft drivers, no difference.

btw - everything works on my system, audio for everything. Only this dts-ma problem. I need to talk to spec-chum about this.

Now I can finally ditch 1180.

[swp]

I have a very strange problem - please help!

Config:
Windows 7 64 bit
MPC-HomeCinema.1.3.1249.0.(x86)
ATI 5850 - HDMI Audio - multichannel PCM - Onkyo 605 (used for movies - set in playback/output)
SB Xfi - headphone (used for everything else)


Now almost everything works fine - including 24p playback without tearing etc. - except one thing:
xvid (avi) movies with mp3 audio have a strange popping sound when playing with MPC HC. Same thing with zoom player and ffdshow.

The movie plays OK with winamp and WMP12 with the same audio config, i.e., the movie itself + ATI HDMI audio out + receiver should be OK,

If I play with MPC HC but set the audio output to the XFi then the same movie plays OK.

In all it seems to be some strange issue between MPC HC - ATI HDMI Audio - multichannel PCM

Two additional strange observations:
When playing with ATI HDMI Audio settings I set 24bit 192 kHz. Then there was no noise for a while then even worse after around 30 secs
I even tried to use AC3filter to encode the output from MPC HC and send encoded stream through ATI HDMI Audio to the receiver. In this case there was no noise, but the playback was "ragged" - sound - stop - sound - stop ....


I am really lost and would really appreciate some help...
Thanks!

[matthew_eli]

Your example is L3.1, not L5.1. ???

Yes, but it is useful for a previous question by namaiki. If you want I could post a video example of High@L5.1 accelerated by DXVA

[Virtual_ManPL]

Shouldnt default option "Position subtitles relative to the video frame" be ticked like this ?
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4669/30457147.png

cause in 99% like not 100% of anime subtitles are wrong positioned
same like in the movies when this option is only partially set

[user822]

Yes it is...so it is stange...and Win7 DXVA decoder, decodes all videos, also High@5.1L with 16 ref frames

hey, where do i get this decoder?

[namaiki]

"Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder". It comes with Windows 7.

[user822]

"Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder". It comes with Windows 7.

ah i found it

i had unregistered it one and now re-regged

thx alot!

it does use dxva with any input level or re-frames, but it does not work....lol

[mikelebron]

I noticed the latest MPC-Audio Renderer in MPC-HC build 1.3.1420.0 in just about all formats has some wicked snapping and crackling even though the audio is coming through. No issues with any other audio renderer (reclock, directSound, etc.)

Running Windows 7 64 bit but with 32 bit MPC-HC

Should this be?

[clsid]

The option "Disable animation" on the subtitle page is a bit misleading. What it really does is allow animation in combination with a non-zero buffer. When the buffer is set to 0, animation will work regardless of the value of "Disable animation".

So I suggest the following changes to make things more clear:
- Change checkbox label to "Allow animation when buffering"
- Change caption to: "Unchecking will lower CPU usage a little bit. Uncheck if you experience flashing subtitles."
- Invert the meaning of the code variable that is tied to the checkbox

If any of the devs has time to implement this change then please do so. Otherwise I will do it myself when I get some time.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 1424 (http://xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-svn-1424.html)

Supported languages: BR, BY, CN, CZ, DE, EN, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SE, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-svn-1424.html)

NEW : ADD support Windows 7 taskbar and thumbnails features, like Progress bar, Status Icon, Toolbar control(button);
Cosmetics;
Updated x64 installer (Alexins patch).

[namaiki]

ah i found it

i had unregistered it one and now re-regged

thx alot!

it does use dxva with any input level or re-frames, but it does not work....lol

I don't understand. Do you have 'auto-load subtitles' enabled?

[Snowknight26]

NEW : ADD support Windows 7 taskbar and thumbnails features, like Progress bar, Status Icon, Toolbar control(button);


If the MPC-HC window is not in focus and click Fullscreen after you hover over the preview in the system tray, pressing escape shows the taskbar. To prevent this, the MPC-HC window should take focus when you press Fullscreen.

[thrawnrulz68]

hey guys just wanted to update you on the QT HD crash. I disabled antivirus and it is still happening and tried it on another PC and was able to reproduce it there (again, this is with QT architecture being used and system default renderer).

Also, I've been looking into MPC-HC's problem with streaming files. Currently, I can't even get the test .asx files from Microsoft to work correctly such as this one: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/asx/demos/9series/avquality/latin.asx . Yet, somehow, certain other streams are able to work. I encounter the same result whether or not "use WM ASF reader" is checked or not. What does that option do exactly? It uses Windows Media Player to play asf files instead of simply Directshow? Is there even a difference? Something is strange since of course the files do work in Windows Media Player (and Winamp for that matter).

[tetsuo55]

The option "Disable animation" on the subtitle page is a bit misleading. What it really does is allow animation in combination with a non-zero buffer. When the buffer is set to 0, animation will work regardless of the value of "Disable animation".

So I suggest the following changes to make things more clear:
- Change checkbox label to "Allow animation when buffering"
- Change caption to: "Unchecking will lower CPU usage a little bit. Uncheck if you experience flashing subtitles."
- Invert the meaning of the code variable that is tied to the checkbox

If any of the devs has time to implement this change then please do so. Otherwise I will do it myself when I get some time.This change has been on the internal to-do list for months, please do it.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 1426 (http://xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-svn-1426.html)

Supported languages: BR, BY, CN, CZ, DE, EN, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SE, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://xvidvideo.ru/logi-izmeneniy/log-izmeneniy-media-player-classic-homecinema.html)

(1425-1426)
Added : MpcAudioRenderer is now embedded as Internal filter;
Changed : static link to Avrt.lib in MpcAudioRenderer (to support Win XP);
Fix : issue with a switch to fullscreen mode.

[krbo]

DXVA problems with Catalyst 9.9+ after resume from sleep/hibernation

So, it seems that DXVA playback brokes after resuming PC from sleep/hibernation when Catalyst past version 9.8 (i.e. 9.9 - 9.12) is used. The only know way (so far) how to fix it use version 9.8 and below. Hope there will be found different workaround - OR - dear engineers in AMD/ATI will fix it.


In my case (780G chipset HD3200, Win7) it's even worse.

DXVA is OK only after a cold boot for a first video you watch.

DXVA breaks:

- after suspend
- after screensaver
- after any watched DXVA video

even with latest 9.12 hotfixes (no mention of any DXVA fixes just games, games, games...)

In every case MPC always shows DXVA sign but video is unwatchable (few minutes OK then few minutes of almost single photo shots again OK and so on) in latest builds.
Pre Beliyaal builds (1043) is much better but still judder can be seen from time to time.
Revert to catalyst 9.8 seems to fix at least watching one video after another - didn't tested screensaver and suspend

Looks like ATI becomes something to avoid for a HD video.

[Virtual_ManPL]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1354629#post1354629
any chances to change default settings, on properly in most (99%, like not 100% ;p) cases ?

[bb10]

NEW : ADD support Windows 7 taskbar and thumbnails features, like Progress bar, Status Icon, Toolbar control(button);
Can you make the progress bar optional? It's unnecessary taskbar clutter imo and abuse of the feature.

[chros]

Why iDCT acceleration with VC-1 content doens't work on Win7 64bit using EVR-custom (32bit MPC-HC) with my Geforce 9600GT ? (It was working well on WinXP 32 bit using WMR9 Renderless on the same config ...)

Any Ideas?
Thanks

[sneaker_ger]

Can anyone enlighten me about this MPC Audio Renderer? Why was this implemented and what are the pros and cons compared to the "normal" renderer?

[clsid]

It is useful for bitstreaming HD audio formats over HDMI. See the ffdshow discussion topic.

[tetsuo55]

Also since its finally our own renderer, it offers unlimited possibilities in the future(all the features that reclock has become a possibility).

[sneaker_ger]

Thanks, both of you. Concerning reclock like features: wasn't GothSync supposed to add these? Though there haven't been any news on that for some months.

[jubilex]

Hi, MPC-HC 1.3.1249 on xp sp 3 doesn't seem to identify monitors correctly. XP's display settings and Ultramon both identify my tv as monitor 2 and projector as monitor 3; in MPC-HC this is reversed.

[tetsuo55]

Thanks, both of you. Concerning reclock like features: wasn't GothSync supposed to add these? Though there haven't been any news on that for some months.not completely, gothsync is working on perfect video first, audio would follow (in the form of this renderer)

The gothsync stuff will be merged into mpc-hc, but i have no timeline on when.

[markanini]

Thanks, both of you. Concerning reclock like features: wasn't GothSync supposed to add these? Though there haven't been any news on that for some months.

I'd sympathizewith that sentiment. If nothing else how about adding a quick option for playing back 23.976 @ 24?

[thrawnrulz68]

I just tried rev 1426 and the fullscreen crash is still happening. I am using system default audio and video renderers and Quicktime architecture to play the HD MOVs. As far as I can tell, it still only happens when exiting full screen mode via the alt+enter shortcut.

[mikelebron]

question... Does MPC-HC play m4a (apple lossless) format? I thought it did..

[leeperry]

is there any way to play audio gapless in MPC?

[roytam1]

Yes MpcAudioRenderer works in XP now. but volume control is not available.

[tmd9]

I get a black screen when playing back MKV files (h264 or vc-1). MPC-HC says "Playing DXVA" but nothing plays :confused:

I'm using a HIS ATI 4670 and had it working for 6 months until it stopped working recently. PowerDVD 7.3 used to work with BD and DXVA - now will not work. I get 100% CPU usage.

I've tried various catalyst versions from 8.12 to 9.12 Fresh install XP SP2 and Win7. DXVA Checker says DXVA1/2 supported.

Could this card be damaged or maybe the mobo? Will I be able to RMA the card if DXVA is not working? Any help is appreciated.

[Mangix]

Yes MpcAudioRenderer works in XP now. but volume control is not available.

doesn't work for me in XP for some reason. it defaults to using the default stuff.

[DigitalDeviant]

A small request: When opening a Blu-ray disc that joins multiple files, would it be possible to have MPC-HC create a chapter for each file?

[thuan]

MPCAudioRenderer works for me but it has some limitation as of now: Volumn Control does not work and it does not support rendering 32bit float PCM data. As far as I know Vista/7 audio rendering stack works with 32bit float audio data so if MPCAudioRenderer supports this data format, an unnecessary conversation won't occur.