Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA! [Archive] - Page 91

Casshern

17th October 2008, 09:11

Can I help by checking fast writes status without installing catalyst or powerstrip? I've got an Asus HD3650 AGP which works just fine with DXVA in MPC-HC, using catalyst 8.7 in Vista (no corruption or stutter, ever).

The problem only occurs in Win XP and VMR9. I only tested Catalyst 8.3, 8.4, 8.5, 8.6, 8.9, 8.10.... so i could theoretically still try 8.7 and 8.8.... but i doubt they make any difference. Something is wrong with initialization of VMR9 in conjunction with DXVA. It could be the ati-driver, mpc-hc (as powerdvd works) or WinXP's VMR9....
WinXP users should use VMR7 or Overlay with DXVA - this works fine! But this also means: no subtitles, no shaders in MPC HC. This leaves Powerdvd as the only option for subtitles...

regards,

Casshern

Shinigami-Sama

17th October 2008, 09:16

I don't get DXVA at all with vrm7
maybe its time for a reinstall to figure this out...

kutjong

17th October 2008, 09:47

AGP fast write usually doesn't enhance performance much, with some testing I only found that gives 1% improvement in performance. I keep it disabled by default because it has a tendency to make systems unstable, especially when overclocking. :) In other words, no big loss if you keep it disabled...

Casshern

17th October 2008, 09:55

I don't get DXVA at all with vrm7
maybe its time for a reinstall to figure this out...

You cannot use DXVA with VMR7 in MPCHCs internal filters. I don't know why but MPCHC doesn't allow VMR 7 with DXVA. BUT: It works fine in Zoomplayer with the external MPC-Videodecoder. One added benefit of VMR7 is that you get a properly filtered chroma-channel, no tearing and it works with reclock.

regards,
Casshern

P.S.: The performance loss of disabling AGP Fast Write depends on the applications. In general benchmarks it might only figure for 1% but in video-applications it is more. I never had any stability problems using it, and it is enabled by default. Even if you could tolerate the performance loss, the fact remains that the problem is only reduced but not gone!

gurubhai

17th October 2008, 20:17

Since ffdshow support for the new HD codecs (TrueHD and E-AC3) is almost finished, what about support for those inside .EVO files? Currently, neither mpc internal splitter or haali media splitter supports TrueHD inside EVO. :(

+1

I would appreciate that too

lilhobo

18th October 2008, 14:32

how do u control color in this player?

phusg

18th October 2008, 18:01

You cannot use DXVA with VMR7 in MPCHCs internal filters. I don't know why but MPCHC doesn't allow VMR 7 with DXVA. BUT: It works fine in Zoomplayer with the external MPC-Videodecoder. One added benefit of VMR7 is that you get a properly filtered chroma-channel, no tearing and it works with reclock.

Could reclock be your problem? I just installed Reclock (1.6) for the first time on my Win XP but when opening a file with MPC-HC I got a reclock error saying it was not compatible with my video card (driver). I'm currently using 2600 AGP with catalyst 8.9 hotfix. AFAIK reclock is only used by MPC and not Powerdvd, so possibly it's the cause of DXVA/VRM9 not being initialised properly by MPC-HC on your system?

Good luck,
Pete

Casshern

19th October 2008, 06:48

Could reclock be your problem? I just installed Reclock (1.6) for the first time on my Win XP but when opening a file with MPC-HC I got a reclock error saying it was not compatible with my video card (driver). I'm currently using 2600 AGP with catalyst 8.9 hotfix. AFAIK reclock is only used by MPC and not Powerdvd, so possibly it's the cause of DXVA/VRM9 not being initialised properly by MPC-HC on your system?

Good luck,
Pete

Reclock works fine here - with VMR7 and VMR9. The problem remains even without reclock. The causes of the problem lie in the interaction of:
1) Ati display driver
2) Microsofts VMR9
3) Initialization of the DXVA engine by MPC

regards,
Casshern

nightsky87

19th October 2008, 15:29

Hi there!

I just tested the latest SVN build (1.1.841.0) and I'm wondering about certain issues I've seen with the EVR and Haali renderers. When I skip frames to another part of the video, audio is immediately played even though the video hasn't been displayed yet (possibly from the decoder is still recomputing from the nearest I frames?). This becomes a bit bothersome since the video then speeds up playback for a short bit to resynchronize with the audio. The problem is dominant in higher bitrate segments (requiring more buffering and processing) and is more apparent using the EVR renderer. The same problem occurs with the Haali renderer except at less instances. However, when using VMR the audio pauses for a bit while waiting for the video to update.

IMO the VMR behavior is more desirable considering some people tend to skip by a few frames at a time to jump to specific parts of a video or move back. I think waiting for a split second is better than seeing a bunch of frames in fast playback. Can anything be done about this or is this inherent in those rendering modes? Those rendering modes look better than VMR so it'd be really great to have a solution to this issue. Thanks!

P.S. By the way, a friend of mine tested it and the same thing happens. He runs a 1.1.796.0 build.

avivahl

20th October 2008, 22:27

I just tested the latest SVN build (1.1.841.0) and I'm wondering about certain issues I've seen with the EVR and Haali renderers. When I skip frames to another part of the video, audio is immediately played even though the video hasn't been displayed yet (possibly from the decoder is still recomputing from the nearest I frames?). This becomes a bit bothersome since the video then speeds up playback for a short bit to resynchronize with the audio. The problem is dominant in higher bitrate segments (requiring more buffering and processing) and is more apparent using the EVR renderer. The same problem occurs with the Haali renderer except at less instances. However, when using VMR the audio pauses for a bit while waiting for the video to update.
+1. Noticed this issue too. It happens sometimes.

And now... for a major one...

Using 1.1.841.0 (tested both x86 and x64 from xvidvideo.ru), I see some major pixelation when seeking a x264 video. I use the regular EVR renderer, Vista x64+SP1, GeForce 8800GT w/ Forceware 178.24, ffdshow tryouts rev2240 (both x86 and x64 from xvidvideo.ru; used for both audio and video decoding).

http://i36.tinypic.com/1416xig.png

war59312

21st October 2008, 07:59

Would be nice if the "After Playback" option remembered the last selection.

I would also like to see an option to have MPC-HC pause if minimized.

Only two features I miss from other players at the moment.

Thanks!

Kado

21st October 2008, 14:09

I would also like to see an option to have MPC-HC pause if minimized.

Use "Boss" key (B), it minimizes and pauses playback.

stony8

21st October 2008, 16:17

hi there

in the standard MPC I could drag+drop a video_ts folder on the MPC icon, and then it would play.

on MPC HC, it opens the window and then... nothing.

is this supported in MPCHC, or did I miss a setting or something?
(using MPCHC from the latest CCCP pack)

:thanks:

clsid

21st October 2008, 16:19

You can double-click the video_ts.ifo file to play the DVD.

draggoon01

21st October 2008, 20:32

boyumeow

22nd October 2008, 11:38

Nvidia has finally released some new beta 180.42 drivers, their Big Bang II drivers. Since this is brand new codebase, definitely needs some good testing.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_180.42_beta.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_180.42_beta.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_180.42_beta.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_180.42_beta.html

Look likes U have double "winxp64" and left out "winvista_x64". Btw, products supported :

GeForce GTX 280
GeForce GTX 260
GeForce 9800 GX2
GeForce 9800 GTX+
GeForce 9800 GTX
GeForce 9800 GT
GeForce 9600 GT
GeForce 9600 GSO
GeForce 9500 GT
GeForce 9500 GS
GeForce 9400 GT
GeForce 9400
GeForce 9300
GeForce 9200
GeForce 8800 Ultra
GeForce 8800 GTX
GeForce 8800 GTS 512
GeForce 8800 GTS
GeForce 8800 GT
GeForce 8800 GS

Thanks for ur info anyway. Thanks.

alexins

22nd October 2008, 15:38

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 845 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/326/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 845 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/327/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Updated FFmpeg

ChronoReverse

22nd October 2008, 16:09

Is there a way to make MPC not go out of fullscreen when it loses focus? Sometimes I'm watching someone on one monitor in fullscreen and try doing something on the other, but MPC would drop out fullscreen.

SCRATCHY

23rd October 2008, 12:33

is there ANY way to use a skin on this player ?

the win95 style is so yesterday :(

avivahl

23rd October 2008, 12:50

Am I the only person experiencing the blocky seeking bug (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1205185&postcount=4526)?

alexins

23rd October 2008, 14:28

Am I the only person experiencing the blocky seeking bug (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1205185&postcount=4526)?
I have this problem is the same.

ADude

24th October 2008, 05:01

is there ANY way to use a skin on this player ?

the win95 style is so yesterday :(

The concept of "skins" is so yesterday.

betaking

24th October 2008, 05:13

alexins

24th October 2008, 10:38

last FLV Splitter does't support Adobe Flash Player 10
Plugin Final .Today I Install this but last Media Player Classic (patched build) and Media Player Classic Homecinema can not play FLV FILES! Please make new FLV Splitter to support it!
Because Adobe Flash Player9 hava a security problem!
Installed Adobe Flash Player 10.0.12.36, problems with playing FLV files do not (MPC-HC 847).

FLV1 (H263) (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/clsid/get_video5.flv)
FLV4 (VP6) (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/clsid/1206138400085Heart_of_Lioness.flv)

http://i029.radikal.ru/0810/71/ec8310623ccbt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i029.radikal.ru/0810/71/ec8310623ccb.png.html) http://s58.radikal.ru/i159/0810/28/03a0fbd5978dt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s58.radikal.ru/i159/0810/28/03a0fbd5978d.png.html)

clsid

24th October 2008, 11:03

The FLV splitter does not use the Flash plugin. So that Adobe crap has nothing to do with you problem. The FLV splitter does not yet support files that contains H.264 video.

betaking

24th October 2008, 11:16

Installed Adobe Flash Player 10.0.12.36, problems with playing FLV files do not (MPC-HC 847).

FLV1 (H263) (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/clsid/get_video5.flv)
FLV4 (VP6) (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/clsid/1206138400085Heart_of_Lioness.flv)

http://i029.radikal.ru/0810/71/ec8310623ccbt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i029.radikal.ru/0810/71/ec8310623ccb.png.html) http://s58.radikal.ru/i159/0810/28/03a0fbd5978dt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s58.radikal.ru/i159/0810/28/03a0fbd5978d.png.html)

Thanks,But can you test standalone FLV Splitter ? :rolleyes:
I use Last FLV Splitter by clsid.but MPC-HC can not play some flv files! and play this flv files not good! you kan see my picture! and download this file!
http://www.pesunites.com/video/pes2009_champleague.flv

alexins

24th October 2008, 12:12

Thanks,But can you test standalone FLV Splitter ?
I use Last FLV Splitter by clsid.but MPC-HC can not play some flv files! and play this flv files not good! you kan see my picture! and download this file!
For me Zoom Player + FLVSplitter.ax FLV does not reproduce.
It appears not to blame FLVSplitter.ax, a problem in the Zoom Player. MPCVideoDec.ax + FLVSplitter.ax + Zoom Player excellent plays FLV files.

http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/0810/f5/981a7a2fcc46t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s49.radikal.ru/i125/0810/f5/981a7a2fcc46.png.html)

IanD

24th October 2008, 12:33

With all recent versions of MPC-HC, playing a BBC HD H.264 TS file with the internal MPC DXVA decoder on an 8600GT XP setup results in playback that constantly jumps backwards (ie it looks like some frames get delayed in presentation until after their timestamps, resulting in motion going backwards for a frame and reverse ghost images).

Disabling DXVA results in smooth playback, but at high CPU usage.

Disabling IVTC in the Nvidia control panel seems to have no effect on the issue.

Does anyone know what might be causing this and a workaround or fix?

I'm wondering if the material is actually interlaced and the DXVA decoder can't handle it.

TechFreak

24th October 2008, 13:00

hi

how can i play a seamless branching bluray with mpc-hc?

thx

nae1986

25th October 2008, 19:07

Hi,

Since Media Player Classic (patched build) is no longer in development, I will have to switch to MPC-HC.

Here are my first impressions and reports:

- View -> Information does nothing. I tried with different files open.

- In the Options menu -> Formats there is a "Image file" item. If I want MPC-HC to be my default player, I will associate all file types by pressing the "All" button. This makes image files open with a media player which isn't that good. Who opens image files with MPC-HC anyway?

I would have a small suggestion:

- If I want to quickly install MPC-HC and make it the default player. This can be done with a SFX archive and using the "/regaud" and "/regvid" switches. But I want it to be the default player for playlists and to appear on the autoplay menu too. Using the GUI, this can be done by pressing the "All" button in the "Formats" page. I don't think it will hurt to have a switch like "/regall" to do the same thing from the command line.

Kurtnoise

25th October 2008, 19:24

how can i play a seamless branching bluray with mpc-hc?
1/ you have to know which files to play. To do that, you can use eac3to. This tool displays some infos from BD.
2/ Create a playlist according to the infos provided by eac3to.

Miryan

25th October 2008, 19:27

- View -> Information does nothing. I tried with different files open.

It displayes important information about domain/location/video/audio/sub when you play a DVD.

clsid

25th October 2008, 20:20

If it only shows something for DVDs, then the menu option should be greyed out in other situations.

Kado

25th October 2008, 21:55

"Information" works fine here like displaying ID3 tag info in mp3 files etc.

clsid

25th October 2008, 22:22

I assume it uses the OSD for displaying the info? In that case the menu item should also be greyed out if OSD is disabled, or if an incompatible renderer is used.

iron2000

26th October 2008, 14:53

Notice that there are these standalone filters.
Are they already in the main MPC exe?
Or are they different or newer?

clsid

26th October 2008, 15:13

They are included in MPC.

draggoon01

26th October 2008, 20:11

"open dvd" in second drive?

If you have 2 optical drives, first drive is empty, second drive has a dvd, then when you click "file-->open dvd", the dvd will not load. In the older patched build of mpc, mpc would automatically open the dvd in the second drive. Can this be fixed?

alexins

27th October 2008, 11:20

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 849 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/333/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 849 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/332/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Updated Czech translation; CHANGE : New associate icons for mpciconlib (alexins (http://forum.doom9.org/member.php?u=146111)); Updated Russian translation, small suggested fix; CHANGE : Update icons for mpciconlib (remove PNG compression due to possible problems with the display under Windows XP - (alexins (http://forum.doom9.org/member.php?u=146111)))

littleD

27th October 2008, 13:41

fastplayer

27th October 2008, 13:56

So, MPC HC has various icons for associated files.

But what happened to icons, that were coming with old versions of K-Lite? I really miss them. Why the ones aren't used as its good looking? Check this out:
Go to any Explorer window --> Tools --> Folder Options --> File Types.
Now change the file icons the way you want.

littleD

27th October 2008, 14:13

Yeah, and do it for all video formats. And redo it after any MPC installation. No way:) I like program icon, but file types icon should be little different than main one just for contrast.

3ngel

27th October 2008, 15:05

A little and easy to do but VERY useful i think, would be the possibility to change from the AutoFilename in the format of DATE (wich can be little useful), to a AutoFilename FRAME NUMBER when doing screenshots with "Save image".
Thanks

clsid

27th October 2008, 15:38

Currently MPC will always replace the file type icon whenever you make a change to the file associations. It would be very useful if MPC would keep an existing icon value in the registry if it points to an existing icon.

Devilman1

27th October 2008, 15:52

Do you plan to add support to play ripped Blue-ray disc on hard disk with all the feature like with DVD?

Thanks

kthxbye

27th October 2008, 15:56

When playing a WVC1 (.wmv) 1080p HD file with MPC-HC 1.1.849 I get garbled video with lots of green and artifacts.

Screenshot:

http://xs232.xs.to/xs232/08441/garbledhd194.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs232&d=08441&f=garbledhd194.jpg)

How can I fix this? I think it occurred after I installed a new harddrive in my notebook and therefore reformatted and reinstalled everything (clean install, not the recovery disks). I have a Sony Vaio FW11S with Vista 32bit Home Premium, Ati Radeon HD3470 videocard. I remember the same file worked on my old hard drive, which was slower! (4200 rpm vs. 7200 rpm now). On that HD I had the original Vaio Windows with bloatware.

If i play the file in Windows Mediaplayer (which I guess uses FFDShow or CoreAVC decoder) the audio lags.

What can I do to fix this?