Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[leeperry]

r460:
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mplayerc_r460.zip

now the subtitles are in sync with EVR Custom.

cool thanks!, lemme try :D

if the subs were already desynced in the first place, could we get an option to specify a delay like in the regular vobsub ?

[clsid]

You can use F1/F2 buttons to decrease/increase subtitle delay. The interval can be customized in MPC options.

You could set the interval to your desired delay and press F1/F2 once. Or if the delay is unknown use a small interval and use multiple button presses to synch the subs.

[leeperry]

ok thanks, sounds like a plan!

I've just realized that there's a "delay interval" in the options, I guess I didn't see it before :eek:

[clsid]

It has very recently been added.

[Fadam]

I'm running XP SP2 with an HD 3450 card trying to watch various Apple trailers (downloaded through iTunes). Lots of tearing using Quicktime/iTunes player, so I tried out MPC-HC for the UVD/hardware acceleration. If I play a trailer with the standard .mov extension, I get no HA ("Filters" drop-down menu grayed-out), and the framerate is very stuttery with VMR 9 renderless.

I renamed the file extension from *.mov to *.mp4, and HA appears to function, however I get either a garbled or black first frame, audio plays, and if I try to close the player the system locks up and gives me a blue screen ("Windows shut down your computer to protect it, etc."). I've been using this trailer for "Hancock" with Will Smith: http://movies.apple.com/movies/sony_pictures/hancock/hancock-tsr2_h720p.mov

Sounds like some other people are having similar problems (though maybe without the system crash). Any thoughts or help would be appreciated!

[thuan]

Yeah, I did have a bunch of BSOD (graphic driver goes into an infinite loop) with XP when trying to make DXVA to work with my HD2400XT, too. Vista has no such problem. And your file plays perfectly over here using Vista SP1 32bit, Catalyst 8.3 and MPC-HC r460.

[chros]

I have a problem with MPC HC and refresh rate on Nvidia.
If I select 59 hz everything it's fine.

Using 24 hz (obviously with 24hz encoded MKV) and 50 hz (for PAL material), give me bad stutter.
Same refresh rate with PowerDVD works really well.
I think the renderer is the fault (but I'm not sure) ...
Which renderer, decoder, how many displays are you using ?

I'm came across with similar effects: 59.94 fps x264-mkv source, using ffdshow/coreavc + Haali's renderer (but just on the 2nd monitor, strangly). I had to switch to overlay with coreavc ...

[manuel74]

I think the renderer is the fault (but I'm not sure) ...
Which renderer, decoder, how many displays are you using ?

I'm came across with similar effects: 59.94 fps x264-mkv source, using ffdshow/coreavc + Haali's renderer (but just on the 2nd monitor, strangly). I had to switch to overlay with coreavc ...


I'm using EVR c/a with Vista x64 on a secondary monitor.

bye
Manuel

[Fadam]

Yeah, I did have a bunch of BSOD (graphic driver goes into an infinite loop) with XP when trying to make DXVA to work with my HD2400XT, too. Vista has no such problem. And your file plays perfectly over here using Vista SP1 32bit, Catalyst 8.3 and MPC-HC r460.
Thanks for confirming this, especially the infinite loop part. I probably won't be upgrading to Vista any time soon, but it's good to know that I'm not the only one with this issue. Hopefully it can be fixed/addressed in future releases.

[DrNein]

I'm running XP SP2 with an HD 3450 card trying to watch various Apple trailers (downloaded through iTunes). Lots of tearing using Quicktime/iTunes player, so I tried out MPC-HC for the UVD/hardware acceleration. If I play a trailer with the standard .mov extension, I get no HA ("Filters" drop-down menu grayed-out), and the framerate is very stuttery with VMR 9 renderless.

I renamed the file extension from *.mov to *.mp4, and HA appears to function, however I get either a garbled or black first frame, audio plays, and if I try to close the player the system locks up and gives me a blue screen ("Windows shut down your computer to protect it, etc."). I've been using this trailer for "Hancock" with Will Smith: http://movies.apple.com/movies/sony_pictures/hancock/hancock-tsr2_h720p.mov

Sounds like some other people are having similar problems (though maybe without the system crash). Any thoughts or help would be appreciated!

Likely that Apple decoder (software-only decoding) is utilized in the first case and an unsurprising glitch from fudging the container in the second.

In MPC formats, configure MOV for DirectShow rather than QuickTime.

[Casimir666]

Hmm. I have been using DxVA with VMR7 Windowed for years on XP and with AVC specifically for at least a year and a half. To be clear, my CPU is very old so it is obvious whether acceleration is working or not because useage increases dramatically -for example from virtually nil when active up to 60% when inactive for a typical 20Mbps sample. Some higher bitrate disc sources would simply become unplayable.

You are right! I have tested yesterday and DXVA works with VMR7 for XP too. I'll change this on my webpage ;)

[Fadam]

Likely that Apple decoder (software-only decoding) is utilized in the first case and an unsurprising glitch from fudging the container in the second.

In MPC formats, configure MOV for DirectShow rather than QuickTime.
DrNein, I think you have hit upon my problem; I will try this as soon as get home from work tonight, but I have a feeling this will solve my problem (I didn't even realize that there was a drop-down selection in the formats list). Thanks again!

[ACrowley]

The MPC-VideoDecoder cant handle x264 encodes with non Spec MotionVector Values ,right ?

Because i noticed ugly Blocking with all my "buggy" x264 encodes

ffdshow : no Blocking
Cyberlink : no Blocking
Sonic/Elecard/mainconcept : no Blocking
CoreAVC 1.6.5.0 : No Blocking

So, please can you add support for large Motion Vector Values ?

Test Sample :
http://rapidshare.com/files/99168310/Large_MotionVector_Blocking.mp4.html

[molitar]

Well I have done everything.. The Catalyst drivers are the worst buggiest product I have ever used! Tons of errors.. tons of problems.. I'm RMA this video card Radeon 3870 HD and going with Nvidia! ATI has no damn clue on what the hell they are doing because their drivers are total and utter crap! I have never read so many forums with Catalyst errors in my life! At least NVidia drivers WORK!

It's a real sorry state of affairs when an ATI video card now owned by AMD doesn't even work properly on an AMD chipset mainboard!

So my question now is... Ok for those who have the 8800GT video card how is it for DXVA? How is the component out to TV? Does the fullscreen secondary display still work? How is the overscan issue?

These are all excellent on the Radeon but that is the ONLY thing good drivers worked for an entire 2 days with errors than totally quit working completely!

[appyton]

My results:
NVIDIA 8600 GT, P Core2Duo 6420, OS: Vista 32, using EVR (not custom)

Using MPC Video Decoder
The video will still NOT show. The file will play forward, and audio can be heard, but no video. Just a black frame (Just like Avi Vahl). Changing IDC to 4.1 didnt make a difference.

Using Cyberlink H264:
720p - successful HA, with CPU < 5% each core, also direct vobsub works fine.

With CoreAVC:
Everything plays, no HA ever.

Tried the above on Windows XP
NVIDIA 8600 GT, Core2Duo, 3mb RAM
VMR 9

Using MPC Video Decoder
The video will still NOT show. The file will play forward, and audio can be heard, but no video. Just a black frame.

Any ideas to solve the bug?:)

[gbates]

Tried the above on Windows XP
NVIDIA 8600 GT, Core2Duo, 3mb RAM
VMR 9

Using MPC Video Decoder
The video will still NOT show. The file will play forward, and audio can be heard, but no video. Just a black frame.

Any ideas to solve the bug?:)

Same here on Vista x64, 8800GT, EVR & EVR Custom.

[manuel74]

One simple question:
How can I run multiple copies of MPC HC with different settings ?

Where does it keep settings for each different instance of MPC HC ?

thanks
Manuel

[wyrd]

Store settings to .ini file.
http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/store.ini.jpg

[Demi9OD]

Well I have done everything.. The Catalyst drivers are the worst buggiest product I have ever used! Tons of errors.. tons of problems.. I'm RMA this video card Radeon 3870 HD and going with Nvidia! ATI has no damn clue on what the hell they are doing because their drivers are total and utter crap! I have never read so many forums with Catalyst errors in my life! At least NVidia drivers WORK!

It's a real sorry state of affairs when an ATI video card now owned by AMD doesn't even work properly on an AMD chipset mainboard!

So my question now is... Ok for those who have the 8800GT video card how is it for DXVA? How is the component out to TV? Does the fullscreen secondary display still work? How is the overscan issue?

These are all excellent on the Radeon but that is the ONLY thing good drivers worked for an entire 2 days with errors than totally quit working completely!

I am using an 8800gt but I don't use DXVA. I have a 19" LCD as my primary monitor and a 42" Pioneer Plasma connected via DVI>HDMI as the secondary. I routinely switch from single display, to clone mode, to dual display, and have no issues playing hardware accelerated material on the Plasma in any case (through PowerDVD). Of course VMR9 MPC without DXVA works regardless of settings as well. There is no overscan at the native 1360*768 resolution, although I do normally zoom MPC 2% to remove the edge from media. The only fix I had to implement was the VMR9 registry fix for levels (I run my TV at 0-255), other than that the Nvidia has been a dream compared to my older ATI X1900XT.

The other thing that is amazing about the 8800gt is it's ability to run fft3dgpu with really demanding settings. This is my 720p profile in FFDShow and is at the very edge of my 8800GTs capabilities. It fell behind on high BPS encodes until I overclocked the 8800GT. The alternative to overclocking is lowering the block size to 16 from 32.

Avisynth
setmemorymax(768)
fft3dgpu(sigma=.8, bt=3, bw=32, bh=32, sharpen=.7, precision=1)
MT("gradfun2db()",6,2)

Resize
1360 width, variable height.
Lanczos 2tap
Luma Sharpen .2

Warpsharp
aWarpSharp
Chroma Mode: none
Blur mode: Fast 1-pass
Depth: 20
Threshold: .21
Blur: 2

Noise
Mplayer noise
Uniform noise
Luma noise strength: 10

[molitar]

Demi9OD, thanks for that info.. Another thing I found that sucked was that the ATI theater mode did not work with anything but overlay mixer and vmr 7 windowed because vmr 7 windowed is horrible.. you can't minimize the display without it vanishing on the secondary display. So glad to hear them issues don't exist with Nvidia.. ATI sure is crap from what I have been experiencing.. I always used VMR9 with Nvidia with no issues whatsoever.

[ADude]

EVR custom and Microsoft Mpeg2 decoder are not compatibles at the moment. The fix for this problem have been removed from release 1.1 final because it cause more problems that it solve.

Official release 1.0.11.0 also have this bug, only some intermediate versions present on this thread haven't.

I am not using Microsoft MPEG2 decoder, I am using Cyberlink PowerDVD Video/SP decoder (PDVD7).

Again, DVD playback works fine with 1.0.11.0, but is broken in 1.1.0.0 .

[Casimir666]

The MPC-VideoDecoder cant handle x264 encodes with non Spec MotionVector Values ,right ?

Because i noticed ugly Blocking with all my "buggy" x264 encodes

ffdshow : no Blocking
Cyberlink : no Blocking
Sonic/Elecard/mainconcept : no Blocking
CoreAVC 1.6.5.0 : No Blocking

So, please can you add support for large Motion Vector Values ?

You are talking of the macro block on books shelf around 4th second of the video?
I will look but i'm not sure the graphics card can manage this kind of encoding (Power DVD have do the same macro blocks).

[manuel74]

Store settings to .ini file.
http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/store.ini.jpg

Thanks, I suspect the .ini file solution, but what I really liked from your config is to have many mplayer.exe with different names and the .ini files named the same, all in the same directory !!! :)
Simpler than zoomplayer, where you have to put multiple copies in different dir.

bye
Manuel

[appyton]

I have always been an NVIDIA user and dont know much about ATI cards.
I got this card (amazingly from a garage sale for $ 10) ATI Radeon X1300Pro with DVI output, probably an year old.
Currently using NVIDIA 8600GT.
Is it worth going through the trouble of swapping the cards and checking out how it will fare with my htpc (Core2Duo, 3gb RAM; dual boot XP and vista).
Will I get DXVA support for 720p, (1080p as well) ?
Please give your opinion.

[SpAwN_gUy]

I have always been an NVIDIA user and dont know much about ATI cards.
I got this card (amazingly from a garage sale for $ 10) ATI Radeon X1300Pro with DVI output, probably an year old.
Currently using NVIDIA 8600GT.
Is it worth going through the trouble of swapping the cards and checking out how it will fare with my htpc (Core2Duo, 3gb RAM; dual boot XP and vista).
Will I get DXVA support for 720p, (1080p as well) ?
Please give your opinion.
yes.

quite a lovely HTPC you have there... mine gamingPC is a bit slower...

[audyovydeo]

Hmm. I have been using DxVA with VMR7 Windowed for years on XP and with AVC specifically for at least a year and a half.


DrNein

this is very interesting because I've been striving to get this (like so many others) under XP.
Can you post exactly your entire chain ?

- Video card
- ForceWare
- player (MPC ? version ?)
- DirectX version / release
- playback filter
- type of file that gets DXVA (codec.container) ?

I'd appreciate, because I have the feeling I'm an inch away from the solution, but can't get it right. I tried with MPC vanilla and r422.


thanks
audyovydeo

[Peekstra]

I can't get the custom EVR renderer to work correctly with my lowly X550 card and HD content.

When using low values in the lock back buffer (1 or 0) the screen flashes. Only when using high values (20) this disappears. However, then the movie itself starts to stutter.

Switching between 2D and 3D surfaces doesn't seem to help either.

Everything works fine though when using the default EVR renderer.

[appyton]

Has anyone compiled the latest 462 revision of HC? Also can HC be updated to DirectX SDK37(D3DX9_37.dll)?

DirectX Redist March 2008
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=740ac79a-5b72-447d-84f9-ee6407ed1a91&DisplayLang=en

DirectX SDK March 2008
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=572be8a6-263a-4424-a7fe-69cff1a5b180&DisplayLang=en


No, you won't get any DXVA, DXVA support page on MPC-HC's site says only Geforce 8/9 and ATI Radeon HD2xxx/3xxx series.
I use it only for movies/music, not a gamer.
GTPVHD says it wont work as per MPC-HC website.

Perhaps somebody has hands on experience with the ATI Radeon X1300Pro - will it support DXVA with MPC-HC with either MPC's own H264 decoder or cyberlink decoder. THANKS>

[Ryokurin]

I have always been an NVIDIA user and dont know much about ATI cards.
I got this card (amazingly from a garage sale for $ 10) ATI Radeon X1300Pro with DVI output, probably an year old.
Currently using NVIDIA 8600GT.
Is it worth going through the trouble of swapping the cards and checking out how it will fare with my htpc (Core2Duo, 3gb RAM; dual boot XP and vista).
Will I get DXVA support for 720p, (1080p as well) ?
Please give your opinion.

an X1300 is over two years old and does no acceleration for h264. Your 8600GT will do better.

[tetsuo55]

I'm not sure if this problem is caused by the MPC-HC decoder but i formatted the pc so there is a big chance....


Every h264/x264 stream shows a lot of blocking errors, at some points the screen fills with red flashing blocks, sometimes they disapear, other times the system locks up.

This happens with both original HDDVD streams as l4.1 compliant x264 streams.

My card is a HD2400pro with catalyst 8.3, winxp-pro with VMR9 renderless.

[DrNein]

Another thing I found that sucked was that the ATI theater mode did not work with anything but overlay mixer and vmr 7 windowed because vmr 7 windowed is horrible.. you can't minimize the display without it vanishing on the secondary display. So glad to hear them issues don't exist with Nvidia.. ATI sure is crap from what I have been experiencing.. I always used VMR9 with Nvidia with no issues whatsoever.

You are able to minimize the player and still have mirroring? My experience has been that worked with Windows 2000 but not XP. The renderer makes no difference in that regard. I am using an ATI card now but previously used Nvidia and minimizing likewise disrupted the mirror video.



DrNein

this is very interesting because I've been striving to get this (like so many others) under XP.
Can you post exactly your entire chain ?

- Video card
- ForceWare
- player (MPC ? version ?)
- DirectX version / release
- playback filter
- type of file that gets DXVA (codec.container) ?

I'd appreciate, because I have the feeling I'm an inch away from the solution, but can't get it right. I tried with MPC vanilla and r422.


thanks
audyovydeo

Previously, I used a 7600 and so had DxVA of MPEG-2 and partial of AVC and VC-1. Now, with 2600, I suppose there is partial DxVA of MPEG-2 and certainly full of AVC and VC-1. I have used MPC with CyberLink decoders/filters (and player when necessary) going back years and so the versions have not really affected whether it works. Ditto DirectX and, for the most part, video drivers.

Essentially, I have always kept them up to date and it carries on working. More recent versions of ATI drivers do require a registry entry to enable DxVA on a secondary display. My most commonly played files are AVC in TS container. But disc formats and remuxes (including common VC-1) are fine too as are QuickTime. Having DxVA of VC-1 available with MPC-HC ffmpeg (rather than limited to PDVD) is great.

I am sorry I cannot be much help. I can only suggest to be certain you test with compliant files to eliminate shenanigans. Test AVC in TS using PDVD and there is little cause for error except drivers. If those seem the the problem then check the appropriate forum (forums.nvidia.com or rage3d). Once working, then move onto MPC-HC although now with the integrated decoders it is more straight forward than with adding external.

[DeepBeepMeep]

Has anyone else managed to use the DXVA decoder with a 8600GTS? Cyberlink works fine, however with mpc's internal DXVA decoder, the player just shows a black frame and freezes.

[TheShadowRunner]

maybe your media runs fine with cyberlink but in software mode..
Are the color controls grayed out when you play the media with cyberlink?

[_xxl]

mpc-hc r463:
removed

[GTPVHD]

463 seems to be very broken, I don't know if it's my PC or not. MKV files with softsubs that play fine in 1.1.0.0 or 460 now hogs 100% of CPU, seeking is very slow, was instantaneous in older builds and seems to be leaking memory somewhere.

Tested with Xvid in AVI files and no problems, seems to be an issue with H.264 encoded files. Reverting back to 460 fixes all problems.

[Steveo08]

i have a problem with dxva and my geforce 8800gt & 8600gt (Media-PC), always when i enable dxva i got a very bad picture, with many blocks and some colours aren't correctly. i have the problems with windows vista & xp.

anyone know what the problem is?

[ACrowley]

i asked many Times before the same Question, no Reply :)

When i set Pan&Scan Modes i get a Black Picture.
With all Codecs/Decoder/Videos/Renderes
Pan&Scan Mode works fine with mpc standard Version

You are talking of the macro block on books shelf around 4th second of the video?
I will look but i'm not sure the graphics card can manage this kind of encoding (Power DVD have do the same macro blocks).

I mean the Motion Vector Range Range Setting for x264 encoding (mvrange)...it has nothing to do with the graphics Card etc :)
Encodes from x264 under rev 663 are "buggy" because x264 was using a to large Value (maximum is up to +/- 512).
This can cause Blocking Artefacts as you see in the Sample
Its fixed with newer x264 revisions. All other Decoders can handle it now since CoreAVc support larger mvrange..
But MPC-VideoDecoder produce blocking

[wyrd]

mpc-hc r463:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99683033/mplayerc.zip.html
Thanks for new build.
mirrored.
http://tirnanog.fate.jp/mirror/Misc%20(not%20by%20celtic_druid)/MPC-Homecinema%20SVN/

(Power DVD have do the same macro blocks).
same here,in my case.
CoreAVC (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/motion_with_CoreAVC.jpg):no blocking
ffdshow (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/motion_with_ffdshow.jpg):no blocking
MPC-HC(disable DXVA(ffmpeg)) (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/motion_with_MPC-hc(disableDXVA).jpg):no blocking
MPC-HC(enable DXVA) (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/motion_with_MPC-hc(enableDXVA).jpg):blocking
PowerDVD7(disable DXVA) (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/motion_with_PDVD7(disableDXVA).jpg):no blocking
PowerDVD7(enable DXVA) (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/motion_with_PDVD7(enableDXVA).jpg):blocking

Is this the problem that can be improved with MPC-hc?
Though dont think so..
Regards

[noee]

Re: DXVA H264 playback.

I use AutoMKV to create my encodes and I've found that if I choose the DAR in the Mux explicitely, DXVA does not work, but if I leave it to "Auto", the DXVA works great (this is pretty awesome, btw, great work!).

Is this a problem with AutoMKV's muxing routine or is there something about the mux having an explicit DAR that is throwing off the MPC-HC H264 decoder from using DXVA?

I'm using an ATI HD2600 XT, CCC/driver 8.3.

[molitar]

You are able to minimize the player and still have mirroring? My experience has been that worked with Windows 2000 but not XP. The renderer makes no difference in that regard. I am using an ATI card now but previously used Nvidia and minimizing likewise disrupted the mirror video.


Well with Nvidia since VMR9 works with Nvidia yes I could minimize and still have fullscreen! Also did not have the same issue with the renderless version as you do with the windowed version. But with ATI the renderless does not work and only vmr7 and overlay mixer works.

[wyrd]

463 seems to be very broken, I don't know if it's my PC or not. MKV files with softsubs that play fine in 1.1.0.0 or 460 now hogs 100% of CPU, seeking is very slow, was instantaneous in older builds and seems to be leaking memory somewhere.

Tested with Xvid in AVI files and no problems, seems to be an issue with H.264 encoded files. Reverting back to 460 fixes all problems.
Hi,I've just tested with some samples, but i can't reproduce.
http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/mewmew_h264_ssa_into_mkv.jpg
http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/h264_idx+sub_into_mp4.jpg
test samples:
mewmew-[h264+aac+ssa].mkv (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/sample/sub/mewmew-%5bh264+aac+ssa%5d.mkv)(6.9MiB)
h264+aac-idx+sub.mp4 (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/sample/sub/h264+aac-idx+sub.mp4)(3.1MiB)

Could you up a clip of sample(or screen shot) and your config?
Thanks

[thuan]

With 463, I don't see the hogging CPU problem over here, too. But I do see it uses over 250MB of RAM during playback. On same files, r460 always uses under 100MB.

[tyee]

Just tried this app out yesterday and it works with my desktop set at 1280x800 (cpu is about 99% idle).

My monitor is 2560x1600 native and when I set my desktop to that and try to play the same HD .m2ts I get no playback (black screen), but I do see the timeline scroller at the bottom. I'm using an ATI 3650 (new). Any hints??

[_xxl]

That issue was reported a while ago, with mpc + h264 mkv files 1gb+ size and 250+mb memory usage.

[wyrd]

With 463, I don't see the hogging CPU problem over here, too. But I do see it uses over 250MB of RAM during playback. On same files, r460 always uses under 100MB.
Thanks thuan, hmm.. Deja vu
@GTPVHD
related post here.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1104459#post1104459
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1106115#post1106115
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1106304#post1106304
basicaly,Experimental:)

//edit
oops,sorry _xxl,should i have reloaded it..

[_xxl]

mpc-hc r466 compiled by MSVC 2008:
removed

[GTPVHD]

So far so good, 466 has fixed the high cpu and memory usage problems that I experienced in 463, thanks.

[wyrd]

Any hints??
Search "VForceMaxResSize"
mpc-hc r466 compiled by MSVC 2008:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99809586/mplayerc.zip.html
Thanks mirrored (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/mirror/Misc%20(not%20by%20celtic_druid)/MPC-Homecinema%20SVN/)

[thuan]

R466 by xxl: RAM usage issue fixed but new thing surfaces. File open dialog refuses to show anything. A screenshot:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8152/weirdjq7.th.png (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weirdjq7.png)
Again, 460 by Matmual is fine.

[Schrade]

R466 by xxl: RAM usage issue fixed but new thing surfaces. File open dialog refuses to show anything. A screenshot:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8152/weirdjq7.th.png (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weirdjq7.png)
Again, 460 by Matmual is fine.

Works just fine under Windows XP Pro.