Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[MatMaul]

this one normally works with ATI and NVIDIA, please check :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r523_TEST2.zip

[tetsuo55]

this one normally works with ATI and NVIDIA, please check :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r523_TEST2.zip


Yes everything is working again with that version

Still massive random macroblocking though with x3_sample

[carnage_pl]

@Casimir666
thanks for info. But I have one more question. For what is lock-back buffer and it should be checked or unchecked?

[Henry The Ripper]

Hi!

Trying to use the MPC-HC, but even if I check "Always open with..." and locate the MPC-HC exe, the file still uses the MPC 6.4.9.0... What could cause this?

Thanks in advance!!

[marc99]

Vista SP1, EVR Custom, GF8600GT (175.16 WHQL), MPC HC r523_TEST2:

I found another bug. Pictures are corrupted. File has two PPS and 50 fps (HDTV). CyberLink works fine.

[ About H.264 encoding ]

SPS id: 0
Profile: Main@L4
Num ref frames: 2
Aspect ratio: Square pixels
Chroma format idc: YUV 4:2:0
PPS id: 0 (SPS: 0)
Entropy coding type: CABAC
Weighted prediction: No
Weighted bipred idc: No
8x8dct: No
PPS id: 1 (SPS: 0)
Entropy coding type: CABAC
Weighted prediction: No
Weighted bipred idc: No
8x8dct: No

sample:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xlwj1djjl3g

[Vepar]

http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r523_TEST2.zip

the samples you provided earlier (sliced) play fine now together with apple trailers i have (dark knight and spiderman 3)

i have also a full movie rip which play just fine now

this is just better and better :)

-
vista x64 sp1 + 8800gt

[ADude]

sorry my bad, i thought it was an HD one like those apple HD trailers

for normal quick time videos (that do not use H264), i just use QT lite
http://www.codecguide.com/qt_lite.htm:

To reiterate my original post:

- If I use quicktime (latest qt_lite) with MPC-HC, then the video playback has many issues (such as showing the underlying window instead of the video in areas).

- If I change from quicktime to directshow with MPC-HC, and use MPC's own video decoder, then it doesn't know what to do with the audio.

Here is the file's info:
General #0
Complete name : 150821main_viking-062206-320cc.mov
Format : QuickTime
Format/Info : Quictime movie
Format/Family : MPEG-4
File size : 11.4 MiB
PlayTime : 2mn 55s
Bit rate : 547 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2006-06-22 17:46:16
Tagged date : UTC 2006-06-22 17:46:19

Video #0
Codec : Sorenson 3
Codec/Info : Sorenson Media Video 3 (Apple QuickTime 5)
PlayTime : 2mn 55s
Bit rate : 483 Kbps
Width : 320 pixels
Height : 240 pixels
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
StreamSize : 10.1 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2006-06-22 17:46:12
Tagged date : UTC 2006-06-22 17:46:19

Audio #0
Codec : ADPCM
Codec/Family : ADPCM
Codec/Info : Microsoft ADPCM
PlayTime : 2mn 55s
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 5.34 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2006-06-22 17:46:12
Tagged date : UTC 2006-06-22 17:46:19

Text #0
Codec : Timed
Codec/Info : Timed text (3GPP)
Codec/Url : http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone.html
PlayTime : 2mn 55s
Bit rate : 275 bps
StreamSize : 5.89 KiB
Encoded date : UTC 2006-06-22 17:46:12
Tagged date : UTC 2006-06-22 17:46:19

[clsid]

The internal MP4/MOV splitter can indeed use some improvement. MPC works good with most .mov files. It has the most trouble with .mov files that are created by some types of digital cameras. Those often also play without sound.

@everyone:

If you have a file that doesn't play correctly with the internal splitters/decoders of MPC, then please upload it somewhere. That is really useful for Casimir666 and helps him to continue improving MPC.

[Kado]

@MatMaul
Your builds always trigger "No execute" on my system crashing mpc hc when using the internal decoders!

[Aleksoid1978]

this one normally works with ATI and NVIDIA, please check :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r523_TEST2.zip

It version work on XP DXVA1 + Nvidia ???

Because 523 work on Nvidia fine only Vista+EVR DXVA2

[clsid]

Some files won't play with the internal decoders enabled. They freeze with black screen right at the beginning. Problem only occurs with the Overlay Mixer. It happens with various formats: Divx, H.264, FLV1.

Here is a small sample file:
http://www.zshare.net/video/126811173871b31a/

[MatMaul]

@MatMaul
Your builds always trigger "No execute" on my system crashing mpc hc when using the internal decoders!
I don't know why it's happening, I think you will have to wait for an xxl build...
- If I change from quicktime to directshow with MPC-HC, and use MPC's own video decoder, then it doesn't know what to do with the audio.
Just activate all ADPCM decoding possibilities in the ffdshow audio configuration and it will work

EDIT :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r527.zip

[MatMaul]

I found another bug. Pictures are corrupted. File has two PPS and 50 fps (HDTV). CyberLink works fine.

I am not sure that DXVA support correctly 50 fps progressive stream. Are you sure that Cyberlink decode the file with DXVA ?

[Kado]

I don't know why it's happening, I think you will have to wait for an xxl build...
EDIT :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r527.zip

Looks like you're right because this one does the same thing.:(

[Gawwad]

new problem, although not as serious as the previous ones
this sample shows a little artefacts when it plays with DXVA
http://rapidshare.com/files/118143839/sample.mkv.html (5.50 MB)

the video could be corrupted, but when i disable the the DXVA or play the sample with vlc player, the artefacts doesn't show :confused:

with DXVA: http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2393/dxvaww1.th.jpg (http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dxvaww1.jpg)

without DXVA: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/619/nodxvadf3.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nodxvadf3.jpg)

i tested the sample with r527 / vista sp1 x32 / nvidia 8600GT
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r527.zip

[crlorentzen]

I don't know why it's happening, I think you will have to wait for an xxl build...

Just activate all ADPCM decoding possibilities in the ffdshow audio configuration and it will work

EDIT :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r527.zip

r527 works for slices...some Macroblocking however, tested with sample-2-PPS-50fps.mkv http://www.mediafire.com/?xlwj1djjl3g and diaryofthedead-tlr1_h720p.hdmov (http://www.apple.com/trailers/weinstein/diaryofthedead/hd/)

DXVA
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6710/diaryofthedeadtlr1h720pts7.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diaryofthedeadtlr1h720pts7.jpg)
NODXVA
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4281/diaryofthedeadtlr1h720pcd5.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diaryofthedeadtlr1h720pcd5.jpg)



Still cannot play files over 4 Ref Frames, so x3_sample, sw_2_sample shooter_sample pirates_sample...etc.

Geforce 9600 GT XP SP3 using VMR9 Renderless

[Aleksoid1978]

to MatMaul, Casimir666

Add in file MPCVideoDecFilter.cpp :

#pragma comment(lib, "d3d9.lib")

or in MPCVideoDec.vcproj(MPCVideoDec_vs2005.vcproj) in Additional Dependencies d3d.lib because MpcVideoDec filter not linked without it:

MPCVideoDecFilter.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol _Direct3DCreate9@4 referenced in function "protected: void __thiscall CMPCVideoDecFilter::DetectVideoCard(void)" (?DetectVideoCard@CMPCVideoDecFilter@@IAEXXZ)

[Aleksoid1978]

Still cannot play files over 4 Ref Frames, so x3_sample, sw_2_sample shooter_sample pirates_sample...etc.

Geforce 9600 GT[/QUOTE]

XP or Vista ???

[MatMaul]

@Gawwad, crlorentzen :
can you reproduce with some of these samples :
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1142240&postcount=2113

[crlorentzen]

@Gawwad, crlorentzen :
can you reproduce with some of these samples :
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1142240&postcount=2113

main_profile.mp4 - 5 ReFrames - black screen
cavlc.mp4 - 5 ReFrames - black screen

slice_cavlc.mp4 - 3 ReFrames- looks fine, motion may be too fast to really find an issue
slice_high.mp4 - 3 ReFrames - ""
slice_main.mp4 - 3 ReFrames - ""

[Gawwad]

@Gawwad, crlorentzen :
can you reproduce with some of these samples :
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1142240&postcount=2113

for me, all 5 samples play perfect with DXVA

[ericab]

well....
build 527 doesnt work any better for me.
my monitor dragging trick no longer works, and now seeking freezes the program.
file:
indiana.jones.and.the.last.crusade.1989.720p.hdtv.x264-ctrlhd

[Gawwad]

r527 works for slices...some Macroblocking however, tested with sample-2-PPS-50fps.mkv http://www.mediafire.com/?xlwj1djjl3g and diaryofthedead-tlr1_h720p.hdmov http://www.apple.com/trailers/weinstein/diaryofthedead/hd/

DXVA
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6710/diaryofthedeadtlr1h720pts7.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diaryofthedeadtlr1h720pts7.jpg)
NODXVA
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4281/diaryofthedeadtlr1h720pcd5.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diaryofthedeadtlr1h720pcd5.jpg)

confirmed
i do get the exact same artefacts playing diaryofthedead-tlr1_h720p.hdmov (http://www.apple.com/trailers/weinstein/diaryofthedead/hd/) with DXVA

my system: vista sp1 x32 / nvidia 8600GT

[Casimir666]

@Casimir666
thanks for info. But I have one more question. For what is lock-back buffer and it should be checked or unchecked?

Purpose of this check box is to remove tearing, but :
- it didn't works on all machines
- sometime it introduce jitter

Personnally i prefer to use D3D exclusive mode instead of lock back buffer.

[marc99]

I am not sure that DXVA support correctly 50 fps progressive stream. Are you sure that Cyberlink decode the file with DXVA ?

Yes I am sure.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9814/sample2pps50fpsdxvafu8.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sample2pps50fpsdxvafu8.jpg)

[EricAhn]

Hi~

I will find that doesn't support some mkv subtitles.

For debugging mpc with mkv spec.

So It will be better than old.

bye

[MatMaul]

please play a problematic sample with this debug build :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r528_Debug.zip
and send to me the file picture.log and the number of the frames where this problem appears (you can see that with ctrl+G) at : my_login atnospam gmail dot com
the same for a non problematic apple trailer would be good too.

[iron2000]

It seems like MPC doesn't support the animated karaoke subtitles in anime openings.
ffdshow supports that but displays the japanese characters wrongly.

[clsid]

It seems like MPC doesn't support the animated karaoke subtitles in anime openings.
ffdshow supports that but displays the japanese characters wrongly.
You must disable subpicture prebuffering in the subtitle settings. Then the karaoke effect will be displayed correctly.

[Mercury_22]

please play a problematic sample with this debug build :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r528_Debug.zip
and send to me the file picture.log and the number of the frames where this problem appears (you can see that with ctrl+G) at : my_login atnospam gmail dot com
the same for a non problematic apple trailer would be good too.

It's crashing when I try to play a simple xvid (OS Vista x64 sp1 ,evr custom , ffdshow....) It's the first build crashing on simple xvid!!:confused:

[iron2000]

Thanks for the tip, clsid!

[STaRGaZeR]

You must disable subpicture prebuffering in the subtitle settings. Then the karaoke effect will be displayed correctly.

I'm also having a problem with subtitles in MPC. I use EVR Custom + DXVA + Subtitles with no prebuffering. The problem is that the fonts and format are not displayed as they should, like with VSFilter, and they're also blurred in some cases:

With MPC subs:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4097/mpcsubser7.th.png (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mpcsubser7.png) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8742/mpcsubs2at9.th.png (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mpcsubs2at9.png)

And with VSFilter:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5024/vsfiltersubsxo0.th.png (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsfiltersubsxo0.png) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6154/vsfiltersubs2uh7.th.png (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsfiltersubs2uh7.png)

MPC does a great job though, look at Gundam Wing in both pics :) (oh and forget the sharpness, when DXVA is on I can use Edge-enhancement in SD videos, like in Gundam Wing)

I guess MPC put subtitles in front of the image, while when using VSFilter are impressed in the frame itself.

[Kado]

@MatMaul
The debug build rev528 does not trigger "No execute".

[Vepar]

http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r528_Debug.zip


now, i really dont know if this is important but this version shows
"Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT (4318)" while the previus one (r523 i think.. please put the build number somewhere) shows "Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT (10)"

what is that number anyway?

[Casimir666]

now, i really dont know if this is important but this version shows
"Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT (4318)" while the previus one (r523 i think.. please put the build number somewhere) shows "Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT (10)"

what is that number anyway?

The number in parenthesis is the PCI vendor ID, and the correct number of nVidia is 4318 (0x10DE) : http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendors.php?sort=id

Matmaul have simplified the detection, and it seems it's also more accurate. Do you have multiple video card in your machine?

[Vepar]

The number in parenthesis is the PCI vendor ID, and the correct number of nVidia is 4318 (0x10DE) : http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendors.php?sort=id

Matmaul have simplified the detection, and it seems it's also more accurate. Do you have multiple video card in your machine?

I see. Thanks for info. I have only one video card.

[gngn]

please play a problematic sample with this debug build :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r528_Debug.zip
and send to me the file picture.log and the number of the frames where this problem appears (you can see that with ctrl+G) at : my_login atnospam gmail dot com
the same for a non problematic apple trailer would be good too.

what have you done to this version? it will play files with Ref Frames > 4 on XP on a Nvidia card, something that hasnt worked out till now! (not even the 527 version, i always get a black screen, no play, no seeking)
i uploaded the results of the file pirates_sample.mkv (http://www.tosei.ru/isoft/pirates_sample.mkv) (Ref Frames = 8 ) here (http://www.gugumomu.de/mpchc/) , dont know if this aspect interests you, though, but this is a nice sideefect of this debugversion.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3609/image1uo6.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1uo6.jpg)

[clsid]

I'm also having a problem with subtitles in MPC. I use EVR Custom + DXVA + Subtitles with no prebuffering. The problem is that the fonts and format are not displayed as they should, like with VSFilter, and they're also blurred in some cases:

With MPC subs:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4097/mpcsubser7.th.png (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mpcsubser7.png) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8742/mpcsubs2at9.th.png (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mpcsubs2at9.png)

And with VSFilter:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5024/vsfiltersubsxo0.th.png (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsfiltersubsxo0.png) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6154/vsfiltersubs2uh7.th.png (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsfiltersubs2uh7.png)

MPC does a great job though, look at Gundam Wing in both pics :) (oh and forget the sharpness, when DXVA is on I can use Edge-enhancement in SD videos, like in Gundam Wing)

I guess MPC put subtitles in front of the image, while when using VSFilter are impressed in the frame itself.
VSFilter places the subtitle image data onto the decoded video frame.
MPC internal subrenderer sends the sub image data to the video renderer. The video renderer then places it onto the screen.
So the methods are different and that is why the visual results are also different.

Blurring can be caused by resizing.

[MatMaul]

what have you done to this version? it will play files with Ref Frames > 4 on XP on a Nvidia card, something that hasnt worked out till now! (not even the 527 version, i always get a black screen, no play, no seeking)
i uploaded the results of the file pirates_sample.mkv (http://www.tosei.ru/isoft/pirates_sample.mkv) (Ref Frames = 8 ) here (http://www.gugumomu.de/mpchc/) , dont know if this aspect interests you, though, but this is a nice sideefect of this debugversion.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3609/image1uo6.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1uo6.jpg)
???
I didn't change anything, I just compiled with debug :P

and with this one ?
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r528_TEST.zip

[Kado]

???
I didn't change anything, I just compiled with debug :P

and with this one ?
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r528_TEST.zip

That one triggers "No Execute"!

[ericab]

@matmaul

no difference for me. still the black screen "issue", and no play.

the 528 "debug" version worked right off the bat however.. no problems


:confused:

[mikegun]

it seems like ati broke dxva with cat 8.5 (at least on my system). setting resolution to 1920x1080 leads to stuttering and broken image. disabling dxva in the decoder "solves" the problem. all the files played fine with older cat drivers.
using kmplayer with corecodec decoder works (software mode of course)

[gngn]

???
I didn't change anything, I just compiled with debug :P

and with this one ?
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_r528_TEST.zip

doesnt work again. the thing is, DXVA kicks in, but screen remains black. that debugversion does something to the way the file is played (it doesnt run smoothly, but the nvidia card will play it)
like others have said, this will afect only Windows XP on Nvidia Cards when the Ref Frame is bigger than 4.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2848/image2cs2.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2cs2.jpg)

[ericab]

doesnt work again. the thing is, DXVA kicks in, but screen remains black. that debugversion does something to the way the file is played (it doesnt run smoothly, but the nvidia card will play it)
like others have said, this will afect only Windows XP on Nvidia Cards when the Ref Frame is bigger than 4.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2848/image2cs2.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2cs2.jpg)

shoot; yeah your right gngn....

i forgot to mention in my last post that while 528_debug works right off the bat for any mkv i threw at it (no other version has);

i only got a max of 10 FPS! :eek:

but it worked...:scared:

[Casimir666]

doesnt work again. the thing is, DXVA kicks in, but screen remains black. that debugversion does something to the way the file is played (it doesnt run smoothly, but the nvidia card will play it)
like others have said, this will afect only Windows XP on Nvidia Cards when the Ref Frame is bigger than 4.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2848/image2cs2.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2cs2.jpg)

Can you try with this one :
http://www.zshare.net/download/127369352f5f7b87/

[ericab]

Can you try with this one :
http://www.zshare.net/download/127369352f5f7b87/

Casimir;

worked.

framerate avg = 23

worked right off the bat like 528_debug did;

however seeking farther into the movies; doesnt work.
i click the scroller and drag farther into the movie, and time stops, and w/ a black screen.

you guys are so close!

**EDIT**

pressing ctrl+alt+del to open up my task manager to monitor cpu usage also does the same as above: time stops, and w/ a black screen.

[Casimir666]

Casimir;

worked.

framerate avg = 23

worked right off the bat like 528_debug did;

however seeking farther into the movies; doesnt work.
i click the scroller and drag farther into the movie, and time stops, and w/ a black screen.

you guys are so close!

**EDIT**

pressing ctrl+alt+del to open up my task manager to monitor cpu usage also does the same as above: time stops, and w/ a black screen.

Can you take the debug one again, open file and seek :
- does it do the same?
- can you post the dxva.log file ?

[gngn]

Can you try with this one :
http://www.zshare.net/download/127369352f5f7b87/

it doesnt work for me. well, it did work 2 or 3 times out of 100 tries with 2 samples (but no seeking), as unscientific as it sounds. with the debug version even seeking does work

[Aleksoid1978]

I test last 528(debug not tested yet) - in Vista GREAT - work fine, no black screen, no green screen, on bad rip DXVA not working.

But on XP-DXVA1 not work, black screen and stop where ref_num>4

[STaRGaZeR]

Blurring can be caused by resizing.

What resizing? It also happens with any standard 720p video with styled subs, karaokes and such. All is fine except that blurring, any suggestions?