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81RED
1st March 2009, 15:03
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8114/clipboard01h.jpg

what does that error mean?


Same problem here on two different PC's. Only happens with files containing PCM stereo audio. Demuxing the audio works fine, a .wav gets created in the TEMP folder, then craps out immediately after that. Anyone like to take a guess as to what is happening?

T-x
1st March 2009, 15:03
Atak_Snajpera

i have a strange problem when i add a 1080I mkv file with ac3 audio ripbot dodsnt find any audio at all.
and a second thing that i noticed eversince i startet to youse this program if i have MpcHc open and add a file then MpcHc closes can that be disabled

laserfan
1st March 2009, 15:34
I don't care if stupid appleTV accepts only two resolutions (720p24fps and 540p30fps) How come PS3 can play everything in High Profile up to 1080p@29.97fps??? Why did you buy this crap? There are better solutions and probably cheaper!Ha ha, I don't know about AppleTV, but Apple has created a whole new market with Ipod that even Sony (with their walkman gizmos) failed to achieve. Maybe Atak you want to change your Title to "Uncommonly rude & angry RipBot264 author"! :p

illestdomer2005
1st March 2009, 16:39
Atak,

I may be dumb not knowing how to do this, but is there any way to tell RipBot encode something other than the main movie file on a BD? For example, I am trying to convert individual episodes of Pushing Daisies. When I click on a stream, RipBot looks for the mpls files that correspond to all three episodes; so, rather than getting my single 40 minute episode, I get a 2 hour single file of all three episodes back-to-back-to-back. Obviously for movies, that is great since some studios split their main features into multiple m2ts files. Here, though, it's irritating because I want to break these up. Any suggestions/solutions? Thanks.

illestdomer2005
1st March 2009, 16:42
Ha ha, I don't know about AppleTV, but Apple has created a whole new market with Ipod that even Sony (with their walkman gizmos) failed to achieve. Maybe Atak you want to change your Title to "Uncommonly rude & angry RipBot264 author"! :p

I have to admit, I am anti-Apple too lol In fact, I am anti iPod AND Zune. I still have my iRiver H320 from around 2004. I detest all of these MP3 players that force proprietary software on you, and I am not convinced that Rockbox is the solution. Just a couple of weeks ago I did surgery on my little iRiver to bring it back to life because I knew I couldn't bring myself to buy an iPod ;)

nwg
1st March 2009, 16:47
Atak,

I may be dumb not knowing how to do this, but is there any way to tell RipBot encode something other than the main movie file on a BD? For example, I am trying to convert individual episodes of Pushing Daisies. When I click on a stream, RipBot looks for the mpls files that correspond to all three episodes; so, rather than getting my single 40 minute episode, I get a 2 hour single file of all three episodes back-to-back-to-back. Obviously for movies, that is great since some studios split their main features into multiple m2ts files. Here, though, it's irritating because I want to break these up. Any suggestions/solutions? Thanks.

You could pre-process the files to a new BD structure. Then put the new files through Ripbot. It make a extra step but look at clown_BD. It will show all the playlists and you should be able to select individual episodes. It will then automatically use eac3to/tsmuxer to create a new BD structure for you. Put this in ripbot.

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=25818

urbanriot
1st March 2009, 18:37
v1.13.3 still says missing FFDShow, v1.12 is the last version that works for me.

I can not get version 1.13 to work. v1.12, after juggling various versions of required apps, finally worked. However, v 1.13 says I'm missing both FFDshow and Haali Media Splitter, even though v 1.12 accepts my configuration.

I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling various versions of FFDshow, both x86 and x64 (preferably), and v 1.12 works fine but not v 1.13. Any suggestions?

Atak_Snajpera
1st March 2009, 18:38
i have a strange problem when i add a 1080I mkv file with ac3 audio ripbot dodsnt find any audio at all.

Where is sample???

v1.13.3 still says missing FFDShow
Can't you read? I provided all necessary information like for kids!

urbanriot
1st March 2009, 19:52
Can't you read? I provided all necessary information like for kids!

Am I supposed to read the 218 forum pages, the nonexistent docs or re-install the version of ffdshow that your page links to, that isn't picked up since version 1.12?

Atak_Snajpera
1st March 2009, 20:09
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3171/new1.png

Why is this too complicated for some people!?!?!

urbanriot
1st March 2009, 21:27
Why is this too complicated for some people!?!?!

Probably because there's a big DOWNLOAD link on the page your link points that leads to a generic listing and because previous versions worked fine with whatever version of FFDshow your last version worked with.

Maybe your douche arrogant attitude, terrible english and unintuitive program is the cause of complication.

Your program says "r2633+" and I HAD a version newer, if that's what the plus sign indicates. I reinstalled exactly version 2633 and that worked. Thanks.

what2be
1st March 2009, 22:34
x264 , Atheme , Elecard AVC encoder , MainConcept are implementations of h.264 standard. (XviD and Divx are implementations of MPEG-4 ASP standard)
Video profiles and audio profiles WILL NEVER BE connected with video size. It's up to you to select correct size. I don't care if stupid appleTV accepts only two resolutions (720p24fps and 540p30fps) How come PS3 can play everything in High Profile up to 1080p@29.97fps??? Why did you buy this crap? There are better solutions and probably cheaper!

BTW. BT is right. Next time at least do your homework.

IF i wanted to buy crap, id buy a PSP. Talk about crap.

And if you dont like the apple tv, take out the profile. But dont put a profile in there that doesent have a useable resolution for apple tv. thats like making the default psp profile 5000x3000. Doesent make much sense if the PSP cant play it does it?
You can talk all you want about not tying resolution to video/audio profiles, but yet in every profile you have , you have a default profile that works with the device you list (EXCEPT APPLE TV!!)

I have been a pc user since I used to program on a Kaypro. Then a Atari 400/800, etc, up to my current x86 core I7 3.2ghz. And I can tell you apple is so far ahead of the pc world Its embarrasing. OSX forgot more than windows is ever gonna know.

Apple makes some great products, and no, there is nobody making a better solution to what apple offers with Apple TV.

Dark Shikari
1st March 2009, 22:37
And I can tell you apple is so far ahead of the pc world Its embarrasing. OSX forgot more than windows is ever gonna know.

Apple makes some great products, and no, there is nobody making a better solution to what apple offers with Apple TV.Entry number 1 on this list highly relevent (http://www.spike.com/blog/top-10-worst-types/74309?page=2&numPerPage=1).

poisondeathray
1st March 2009, 22:51
but yet in every profile you have , you have a default profile that works with the device you list (EXCEPT APPLE TV!!)



Wrong. You have to resize for others too e.g. IPOD. The presets are only for encoding settings...It doesn't automatically resize - how is Atak supposed to guess what size you want? His crystal ball is good but it isn't that good :rolleyes:

BTW, it take 2 seconds to do this, there are presets for resizing, including 720p Quit whining.


There is nobody making a better solution to what apple offers with Apple TV.


Wrong. There are many, they even play 1080p, high profile, and support CABAC. Apple TV only supports LOWer quality video, and 720p

Atak_Snajpera
1st March 2009, 23:04
And I can tell you apple is so far ahead of the pc world Its embarrasing. OSX forgot more than windows is ever gonna know.
Ok! If you love apple OS soo much then STOP USING windows at all !!! Will see how long you will survive without AviSynth , Haali Media splitter , ffdshow , eac3to and so on.

what2be
1st March 2009, 23:14
Wrong. You have to resize for others too e.g. IPOD. The presets are only for encoding settings...It doesn't automatically resize - how is Atak supposed to guess what size you want? His crystal ball is good but it isn't that good :rolleyes:


I havent used the ipod setting, but I bet you that if you just encode WITHOUT resizing it will work on the ipod, correct?

THATS ALL IM ASKING FOR THE APPLE PROFILE TO DO, WORK WITH THE DEFAULT SETTING. He doesent need a crystal ball for that. As it is now, it wont work at all for apple tv.

Understand now?

what2be
1st March 2009, 23:16
Ok! If you love apple OS soo much then STOP USING windows at all !!! Will see how long you will survive without AviSynth , Haali Media splitter , ffdshow , eac3to and so on.

Im down to 2 things my pc is good for

1) encode/decode hd videos (fastdvd copy and handbrake in mac work great for standard dvd's!)

2) play games.

And 2 isnt even relevant anymore since I have bootcamp on my mac.

All the rest APPLE ALL THE WAY!!!

Atak_Snajpera
1st March 2009, 23:31
All the rest APPLE ALL THE WAY!!!
Hmmm.... Did you know that Photoshop cs4 works only in 32bits on macs? :) Version for windows has support for x64 .

poisondeathray
1st March 2009, 23:38
I havent used the ipod setting, but I bet you that if you just encode WITHOUT resizing it will work on the ipod, correct?

THATS ALL IM ASKING FOR THE APPLE PROFILE TO DO, WORK WITH THE DEFAULT SETTING. He doesent need a crystal ball for that. As it is now, it wont work at all for apple tv.

Understand now?

Wrong again. You obviously don't understand or haven't paid any attention.

There is no resizing done by the profiles, they just set compatible x264 encoder settings, that is all! You have to resize separately for every profile. It just happens that other devices may have better support than the AppleTV. e.g. If I just encode my blu-ray source and don't resize, of course it won't work on the ipod! ....and guess who makes the Ipod ... :)

what2be
1st March 2009, 23:39
Hmmm.... Did you know that Photoshop cs4 works only in 32bits on macs? :) Version for windows has support for x64 .

Actually I did, as I use CS4 and FCP on the mac, migrated from vegas and cs3 on the pc. Adobe says the next iteration of PS will support 64bit on the mac.
The only adobe products I use on my macs are PS and Lightroom anyway, so its not a huge issue atm for me. I have a hard enough time with FCP, dont need to try to master PS.

BTW, for all the bitching Ive done the last few posts, wanted to say thanks for making my life alot easier with the blu ray support in Ripbot. My old way to convert hd-dvd to blu-ray was to use eac3to and TsMuxer, with sometimes not so good results. Ive had good luck so far with Ripbot and AnyDvd.

T-x
2nd March 2009, 01:23
Where is sample???

http://www.sendspace.com/file/irakl2 <-- sample here 78 mb

~bT~
2nd March 2009, 01:55
Your program says "r2633+" and I HAD a version newer, if that's what the plus sign indicates. I reinstalled exactly version 2633 and that worked. Thanks.

that wasnt too hard in the end :rolleyes:

delanejenkins
2nd March 2009, 08:13
Is there any way to use one of ryu77's blu-ray or avchd profiles with ripbot? I love the ease and interface of this program but am spoiled to the incredible results I get using megui with one of his profiles

~bT~
2nd March 2009, 12:27
i am encoding for the 1st time with rb264 a 24fps source.

do i need to select assumefps(24.000) in properties?

Atak_Snajpera
2nd March 2009, 15:44
http://www.sendspace.com/file/irakl2 <-- sample here 78 mb
remove national characters from file name.

i am encoding for the 1st time with rb264 a 24fps source.

do i need to select assumefps(24.000) in properties?
No If source is already 24fps

what2be
2nd March 2009, 21:18
I cant seem to get any 5.1 when im playing my movies..Im picking the profile in ripbot that says 5.1 CT AAC-LC 256 Kbps, abr

(yes, atak, its the stupid apple tv..lol)

Apple tv shows this for specs:

H.264 and protected H.264 (from iTunes Store): Up to 5 Mbps, Progressive Main Profile (CAVLC) with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 1280 by 720 pixels at 24 fps,


How can I resolve this problem?
I assume i need to get the bitrate down to 160Kbps? Whats the easiest way to go about that? Is there a setting in ripbot to modify from 256 to 160?

Up to now Stereo has been fine for my bedroom but now id like to encode 5.1 for my apple tv connected to my home theatre.

nurbs
2nd March 2009, 21:41
From what I see on the Apple site Apple TV can't play 5.1 AAC files.

Ajax_Undone
2nd March 2009, 21:44
I cant seem to get any 5.1 when im playing my movies..Im picking the profile in ripbot that says 5.1 CT AAC-LC 256 Kbps, abr

(yes, atak, its the stupid apple tv..lol)

Apple tv shows this for specs:

H.264 and protected H.264 (from iTunes Store): Up to 5 Mbps, Progressive Main Profile (CAVLC) with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 1280 by 720 pixels at 24 fps,


How can I resolve this problem?
I assume i need to get the bitrate down to 160Kbps? Whats the easiest way to go about that? Is there a setting in ripbot to modify from 256 to 160?

Up to now Stereo has been fine for my bedroom but now id like to encode 5.1 for my apple tv connected to my home theatre.

Well that's Apple for you a box of stupid overpriced under achieving hardware.

Sad' Buy a Popcorn Hour.

Apple TV was/is mainly used for stuff purchased off of iTunes. Kind of a selfish buy it our way type of sales man attitude. Now you know why people hate Mac.

I suppose you could tweak the cmd line to pass through the audio with that particular bitrate @ 5.1.. Don't know if this will work though... You would have to do the whole process manually with only Ripbot to set up the initial cmd's and avs scripts. All other editing/tweaking and processing would have to be done separate from ripbot.
:rolleyes: A load of work to make you feel that your purchase was worth it...:p

**EDIT**

From what I see on the Apple site Apple TV can't play 5.1 AAC files.

Wow that's something I didn't know.

nurbs
2nd March 2009, 22:37
Well, for movies it only allows up to 160 kbps (LC-AAC) which isn't enough for good quality 5.1 and apple doesn't support HE. Looks like they use AC3 in their downloads, so that could be worth a try.

I think apple designs some nice hardware, but for digital media players unless you plan to buy the majority of your movies frome Itunes there a lots of better and often cheaper choices then the apple tv. I bought a Western Digital "WD TV" (85€) and a 1TB external harddrive (100€) which gives me way more storage capacity (>6 times more) and supported codecs then the 160GB apple tv has for a cheaper price (less then half). I have to admit it wouldn't solve your problem because it downmixes 5.1 AAC to stereo, but at least it would play the file.
edit: Popcornhour would also be a good choice if you want to spend a bit more. It does 5.1 AAC AFAIK.

81RED
2nd March 2009, 22:41
Same problem here on two different PC's. Only happens with files containing PCM stereo audio. Demuxing the audio works fine, a .wav gets created in the TEMP folder, then craps out immediately after that. Anyone like to take a guess as to what is happening?

Uploaded a small (7.7MB) sample (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=URIY2NML) to properly illustrate the problem.

topsham
2nd March 2009, 23:28
I recently sold my PS3 and replaced it with an Apple TV and am very pleased with it. I am now using Ripbot to convert my HD DVDs (1280 x 720 6144 kbps, 5.1 AAC) and Handbrake to convert my Blu-rays as that allows me to keep 5.1 DD audio. Films are streamed from my main pc in another room and my iTunes music is on the ATV hdd.

Atak_Snajpera
3rd March 2009, 01:07
I recently sold my PS3 and replaced it with an Apple TV and am very pleased with it.
Be cursed :)

Knocks
3rd March 2009, 03:43
Are you going to add the ability to batch load multiple files? It would be useful for TV show seasons. Same output settings, load all episodes at once and leave.

Blackwalker
3rd March 2009, 07:33
hi Atak and thx again for your nice and hard work.
i'm still using your old ripbot version and it sill work ok.
I'd like to try the last versione, 1.13.3.
what i miss is the "r2633+" ffdshow version.
i check the ffdshow site http://www.ffdshow.info
or http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941
but i didnt find any link to download the "r2633+" version!!

someone is so kind to point me to the right link or upload on rapidshare or megaupload
or another site?

thx! :)

mouw
3rd March 2009, 09:03
what i miss is the "r2633+" ffdshow version

ffdshow r2633_mt (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245&release_id=523000)

~bT~
3rd March 2009, 10:43
Are you going to add the ability to batch load multiple files? It would be useful for TV show seasons. Same output settings, load all episodes at once and leave.

what would be great is if u can direct it to a source folder, add all settings and hit encode.

rb264 can then do each file one by one.

Atak_Snajpera
3rd March 2009, 13:25
but i didnt find any link to download the "r2633+" version!!
ffdshow version must be higher than 2632.

iSeries
3rd March 2009, 15:15
Hi,

Last night I ripped Righteous Kill using anyDVD HD. Full DVD backup came out at 16.5gb. I then remuxed the movie only using tsMuxer, downsampling the HD DTS to standard DTS. This came out at 13.5gb.

Then I fed this into RipBot264, made sure profile 4.0 was selected, then selected CQ=18. Audio was set to 'Copy Stream' and output set to MKV. I selected Automatic for cropping and checked via preview. All other options were left as default.

14.5 hours later I have a MKV file that has come out at 14.5gb, 1gb bigger than the original!

Does anyone have any ideas how this might have happened?

nurbs
3rd March 2009, 16:20
a) With CQ encoding you can't predict how big the movie will come out.
b) For a 1080p encode cq 18 is overkill.
c) If you don't care about the filesize you should use crf, not cq.

Blackwalker
3rd March 2009, 16:24
ffdshow r2633_mt (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245&release_id=523000)

Thx for the link!

ffdshow version must be higher than 2632.

thx for the info! :)

i'll try the 1.13.3 version now and i'll let you know!
thx again

iSeries
3rd March 2009, 16:37
"a) With CQ encoding you can't predict how big the movie will come out.
b) For a 1080p encode cq 18 is overkill.
c) If you don't care about the filesize you should use crf, not cq."

Sorry, I understand points a and b. Point a is a fact, point b is your opinion. But for point c surely CQ = constant quality, and CRF = 18? I.e I've specified I want a contstant quality by selecting CQ, and I've selected the 'quality' of the encode by selecting CRF 18. So not sure what you mean?

And while I understand that you can't predict how big the file will come out with CQ, I was looking for help as to why it has come out bigger than the input file.

nurbs
3rd March 2009, 16:43
To point c) I thought CQ stood for Constant Quantizer, my mistake.

The input file are the uncompressed pictures you feed to the encoder, much bigger then the 14.5 gigs you got from the encode. The filesize of the compressed source video isn't important, the complexity of the material is.

iSeries
3rd March 2009, 16:54
Sorry mate, I still dont understand - the input file as per my first post was 13.5gb. The input file was a movie only remux with DTS sound using tsMuxer, from the original full disc rip.

And while I understand that output file size is directly linked to the complexity of the input file when using CQ, I still don't understand why the output file is bigger than the input file.

prettyboy85712
3rd March 2009, 17:33
Post your log file.

Atak_Snajpera
3rd March 2009, 17:47
@iSeries
For god sake! Use default 22 value instead of 18. Who told you to change this value?
Nurbs is right! 18 is too MUCH!!!!

iSeries
3rd March 2009, 18:46
@ Atak_Snajpera - please explain why 18 is even an option if it is overkill. In fact why offer anything below 22 at all?

And it still fails to answer why the output file is bigger than the input file!

Atak_Snajpera
3rd March 2009, 19:17
@ Atak_Snajpera - please explain why 18 is even an option if it is overkill. In fact why offer anything below 22 at all?
Because some people like even smaller file sizes and may not care about quality that much!

And it still fails to answer why the output file is bigger than the input file!
Simply CQ18 uses more bits (Mbps) than original encoder used for that movie! Why you don't understand that???

primerump
3rd March 2009, 19:18
Hi,

Last night I ripped Righteous Kill using anyDVD HD. Full DVD backup came out at 16.5gb. I then remuxed the movie only using tsMuxer, downsampling the HD DTS to standard DTS. This came out at 13.5gb.

Then I fed this into RipBot264, made sure profile 4.0 was selected, then selected CQ=18. Audio was set to 'Copy Stream' and output set to MKV. I selected Automatic for cropping and checked via preview. All other options were left as default.

14.5 hours later I have a MKV file that has come out at 14.5gb, 1gb bigger than the original!

Does anyone have any ideas how this might have happened?

I did that movie too.. bluray rip from anydvd, direct into ripbot with 2 pass 6144 and 5.1 acc .. auto crop and resize to 1280*720. my file size is just under 5 GB and its as sharp as the original..
you have something wrong dude..

iSeries
3rd March 2009, 19:26
@ primerump, I can understand why yours is only 5gb, you've lowered the resolution quite a bit, reduced audio to ac3 and it also looks like you fixed the output file size?

@ Atak_Snajpera, I would have understood that, had someone explained that in the first place. Which is why I was asking, so I could understand that. You need to chill out my friend, if I wanted to be told off I'd ring the wife.

nurbs
3rd March 2009, 19:35
@ Atak_Snajpera - please explain why 18 is even an option if it is overkill. In fact why offer anything below 22 at all?

If you encode low resolutions like 640*360 you may want to use lower values, especially if you are going to upscale the video on playback. Generally the higher the quality of the source material and the higher the resolution you encode to the higher the CQ value can be while still maintaining good quality. For most people CQ 22 at 1280x720 is very good quality, so at 1920x1080 there is even less of a chance that problems will be noticable.


And it still fails to answer why the output file is bigger than the input file!

Your output file isn't bigger than your input file. The input to the encoder are a series of uncompressed images decoded from your original file. The input size in bits is [width * hight * bits per pixel * frames per second * duration of the video]. For a typical 2 hour movie (1080p) the input is about 500GB of uncompressed images.