RipBot264 v1.18.3 - Simple and easy to use GUI -> IPOD . PSP . CONSOLES . BLURAY

[tijgert]

@BobZhome: Great suggestion, I never thought of the .cmd file... unfortunately that route would yield me a .ts or .m2ts file while I wanted an .mkv.
As you all know, MKVmerge does not support .sup or .sub subtitles and OCR is a major drag... hence my suggestion to have RipBot handle the audio and video and just have it merge already prepared video.

[MKVCrazy]

Will these come in next updates?

- savable custom resolutions in select down menu
- savable custom color tweak in select down menu

having to change the resolution is really taking extra time when doing many little videos since it's not possible to just type in the desire resolution in the box but have to click on the arrow buttons. So I think that should be a high priority in next update. The color tweak isn't that important but will be cool if possible to implement it too.

[Ga1j1n]

1. Direct stream copy for video, (or Null video) - Now implemented for audio only, but for video would be very handy feature in order to process audio and subs only without hours of unwanted video encoding.

I second the above, would be really handy, I'm in the midst of modifying some earlier created h.264 and AC3 stream filled Avi's that won't play on my PS3 (Avi's with AC3 are not supported) and to do that I have to:

1) De-Mux with Yamb
2) Re-Encode the AC3 to 5.1 AAC
3) Re-Mux with Yamb

A real pain, Direct Stream copy would be great as would a button to execute the audio encoding option you have selected independantly (StaxRip does this, It's the only thing I use it for!)
:thanks:

[stryker412]

I still cannot get any movies strip the core tracks whether it be dts or ac3. Anyone have any ideas? I changed the .ini to only do mkvs.

[Joe-RequiresJob]

v1.14.4
Added: RipBot264 will force ffdshow as prefferd Xvid and Divx 4/5 decoder in Windows 7
Changed: Avi files will be decoded via DirectShowSource instead of OpenDMLSource (Reason: OpenDMLSource does not work well with Windows 7 RTM)
Changed: Avs files wiil be imported via Import() instead of DirectShowSource
Changed: Lossless audio is automatically selected instead of first audio stream in Demuxing window
Changed: Bitmap based suptitles are also allowed for none-standard resolutions (MKV)
Fixed: Blu-ray subtitles were not resized if user changed resolution after adding subtitles
Fixed: FLAC will be decoded by madFLAC instead of BassAudio due to weird problems on Windows 7 RTM (Avs script hangs if bassaudio.dll is loaded)
Fixed: temporary files will not be automatically stored on non-NTFS drives (external usb drive for example)
Fixed: 24fps subtitles were automatically converted to 23.976fps due to missing /fps:keep option
Updated: x264 r1251M, NicAudio 2.0.4, MediaInfo 0.7.21, Yadif 1.6, BDSup2Sub 3.9.7

After incrementally upgrading from v1.14.3 to v1.14.4 and later, I have had major issues with RipBot failing to load certain *.avi containers. All I'm greeted with is a MPC window with the message...

DirectShowSource i can't determine the frame rate of the video, you must use the "fps" parameter. (C:\Temp\Ripbot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line 2)

After going through all the rigmarole of reinstalling AviSynth/Haali Splitter/FFDShow etc, I finally found the issue was all to do with the highlighted "fix" above.

So I guess my question is, am I stuck with using v1.14.3 or earlier, as all the later editions fail to load AVIs? I am running Vista 64, Incidentally.

Thanks

[CyberTron88]

hmm...encountered this problem with X Men 3. If I select DTS 6.1, I downmix it DD 5.1 or every copy. The default option are all 2.0. Can we allow downconverting to 5.1?

[Atak_Snajpera]

send me 50MB sample. Use DGsplit and www.mediafire.com. I need .m2ts file.

[stryker412]

Atak, do any of your movies not offer Direct Copy for DTS/AC3? I've tried numerous movies of late, and nothing. I am using 1.14.5.

Here is GI Joe which has a DTS-MA track.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4114/ripbot.png

[kikker]

As you all know, MKVmerge does not support .sup or .sub subtitles and OCR is a major drag... hence my suggestion to have RipBot handle the audio and video and just have it merge already prepared video.

MKV's can handle SUB/IDX just fine. You just have to import the IDX though.

[CyberTron88]

Here's the first 50MB

http://www.mediafire.com/?y2jydmymjxn

send me 50MB sample. Use DGsplit and www.mediafire.com. I need .m2ts file.

[gohamstergo]

Atak, do any of your movies not offer Direct Copy for DTS/AC3? I've tried numerous movies of late, and nothing. I am using 1.14.5.

Here is GI Joe which has a DTS-MA track.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4114/ripbot.png

I would like an answer to this as well, since I've asked it before and it got buried.

[Mihai_]

For Atak_Snajpera:
My videos have AC3 audio and these are recorded with my video camera and have 448 Kbps (CBR) audio, but with RipBot I can convert to AAC only up to 320 kbps (ABR).
I want to preserve de audio at 448 Kbps.
You said: "320kbps is max what CT-AAC supports"
If so ... why you don't add Nero AAC as a second option ? Both CT-AAC and Nero AAC are freeware.
With Nero AAC other softwares can convert AC3 to AAC at 448 Kbpbs, 512 Kbps, 640 Kbps, and over ... while RipBot can convert with CT-AAC only up to 320 Kbps.
You can add Nero AAC Codec for audio (can encode to AAC over 320 kbps, while CT-AAC cannot)
Link for Nero AAC Codec test:
Two images shows for Nero AAC that the best audio quality, combined with a low size in MB, is at 700-800 kbps, when encoding Blu-ray with a 24bit 48kHz soundtrack ... to AAC:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t68122.html

[jacksback]

I would like an answer to this as well, since I've asked it before and it got buried.

Same problem. Here's an image showing the X-Men 3 DTS soundtrack in the right window and the options I have in the left window. I have all the required DTS libraries in the Tools\ax\ArcSoft DTS Decoder\ directory but they don't help. I've also uninstalled and reinstalled but still only get AC3 as the default audio option. X-Men only gives me AAC so there's something up with the newer version of RipBOT

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6762/xmenaudio.jpg

Any ideas?

Thanks

[kikker]

^ Yes, I have an idea, and it's a good one. :)

Because you have the Arcsoft decoder installed, you cannot direct stream copy. You wind up with the uncompressed audio instead. You then have the option of transcoding to the available audio formats presented.

If you remove that decoder from your system, you will then see the option to extract the core DTS file (copy stream).

I've asked Atak if he would be so kind to give us the option to extract the core AC3/DTS with a little check mark box when the source TrueHD and DTS-MA are present . I think it has fallen on deaf ears though.

This audio question gets raised over and over and leads to much confusion. Other than that, it's a great app.

[Atak_Snajpera]

This is my final answer:
DTSMA -> wav -> AC 640kbps = DTS core 1,5 MBps in terms of quality.

Now tell me why would use DTS if you could get the same quality with smaller AC3??? Blind tests made by professional do not lie. Just use google.

@jacksback
I forgot to add proper downmix for 6.1 audio. You will have to wait for new version.

[gohamstergo]

This is my final answer:
DTSMA -> wav -> AC 640kbps = DTS core 1,5 MBps in terms of quality.

Now tell me why would use DTS if you could get the same quality with smaller AC3??? Blind tests made by professional do not lie. Just use google.

ok so to achieve this, we would NOT select flac on the first screen, then when we get to the second screen select the 640kb option? I assume the "DTSMA -> wav" step is done automatically after the first screen, right?

[Atak_Snajpera]

ok so to achieve this, we would NOT select flac on the first screen, then when we get to the second screen select the 640kb option? I assume the "DTSMA -> wav" step is done automatically during the first demuxing step right?
It does not matter if you have FLAC selected or not because FLAC is lossless (Free Lossless Audio Codec)

[kikker]

This is my final answer:
DTSMA -> wav -> AC 640kbps = DTS core 1,5 MBps in terms of quality.

Now tell me why would use DTS if you could get the same quality with smaller AC3??? Blind tests made by professional do not lie. Just use google.



Because many here, including myself, are audio purists and just want to keep either the core AC3 or the core DTS (depending on which is present on disc) to preserve that which was encoded directly by the studio without alteration. Increasingly, many are encoding with constant quality, not constant size, so any increase in audio size would not detract from the video size and quality.

Furthermore, it would eliminate a ton of audio confusion in this thread. I'm pretty sure all that would be required is to add an option for the --core argument to the eac3to command line. The option could be presented in the streams dialog box as an "extract core audio" checkbox, which would cover both TrueHD and DTS-MA.

Lastly, I understand your argument that AC3 quality with its smaller bitrate is equivalent to DTS, but even when only TrueHD is available on disc, the only way to obtain an AC3 track is to encode it, when it's already available straight from the disc and the way the producers intended it!

Otherwise, a fantastic app and my "go to" encoder.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Because many here, including myself, are audio purists and just want to keep either the core AC3 or the core DTS (depending on which is present on disc) to preserve that which was encoded directly by the studio without alteration. Increasingly, many are encoding with constant quality, not constant size, so any increase in audio size would not detract from the video size and quality. Furthermore, it would eliminate a ton of audio confusion in this thread. I'm pretty sure all that would be required is to add an option for the --core argument to the eac3to command line. The option could be presented in the streams dialog box as an "extract core audio" checkbox, which would cover both TrueHD and DTS-MA.

Lastly, I understand your argument that AC3 quality with its smaller bitrate is equivalent to DTS, but even when only TrueHD is available on disc, the only way to obtain an AC3 track is to encode it, when it's already available straight from the disc and the way the producers intended it!
Audio purist or not I don't care. I only care if I hear difference or not. There are also people encoding for DVD. It means that they get better video quality due to saved audio bits. Therefore I won't change my concept. By the way true purists do not encode video and audio at all. They just watch movies from original disks.

[kikker]

Yes, you're right. I guess I'm not that much of a purist then. :)

But, if the option were present, it wouldn't change anything for those who are encoding with constant size, to a DVD as you mention. They would still be able to encode to AC3 if a DTS-MA track were present.

BTW, what's the rationale for not extracting core AC3 then? That would be a wonderful addition in my humble opinion!! I can always stay away from the Arcsoft decoder to get core DTS, but I can't do anything about getting that core AC3 in Ripbot.

[Atak_Snajpera]

But, if the option were present, it wouldn't change anything for those who are encoding with constant size, to a DVD as you mention. They would still be able to encode to AC3 if a DTS-MA track were present.
Ripbot264 must be as simple as possible. This option is useless. End of story. Ripbot264 does what makes sense not what user wants. DTS 1,5 Mbps DOES NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL. Waste of space that's all. Did you know that lossless FLAC can be as small as lossy DTS 1,5 Mbps?

[kikker]

OK, fair enough. But, what about the core AC3 then? Does it make sense to always transcode to AC3 from the TrueHD, when it's already there on the disc to extract?

[Atak_Snajpera]

OK, fair enough. But, what about the core AC3 then? Does it make sense to always transcode to AC3 from the TrueHD, when it's already there on the disc to extract?
Let's say user wants AC3 448 kbps or AC3 384 kbps. What options will be better in your opinion?
1) lossy core AC3 640 kbps -> AC3 xxx kbps
or
2) Lossless TrueHD -> lossless .wav -> AC3 xxx kbps

or what would you choose
CD -> MP3 128 kbps
or
MP3 320 kbps -> MP3 128 kbps

[kikker]

Point taken. However, one of two solutions is possible.

1. Extract both TrueHD (as a WAV) and core AC3 automatically. Then, the option of 'copy core AC3 audio stream' would be available in the audio portion of the encoder settings, or the core AC3 could be manually browsed to. If the user wanted a smaller AC3 file, then the WAV could be used to transcode as it's now done.

2. Have 'core AC3 track' as a checkbox in the streams dialog. If that box is selected, only 'copy stream' is available in the audio settings.

I would think #1 would be easier and more straightforward though.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Do you really think I will be wasting my time because you have obsession regarding core audio made by some stupid studio???

[stryker412]

@jacksback
I forgot to add proper downmix for 6.1 audio. You will have to wait for new version.


Star Trek: Generations has a 5.1 TrueHD track and ripbot does not have a Copy Stream option for it. Only the Aften options, this is with no Arcsoft software installed.

[kikker]

Do you really think I will be wasting my time because you have obsession regarding core audio made by some stupid studio???

It doesn't sound as if that's the case. But, thanks for your work on this project. I'm sure I'm not alone though.

[gohamstergo]

Atak: I don't want to use FLAC because the Bluray player I stream over the network to does NOT support flac, so I need the native audio. Also, if Im not mistaken the Aften AC3 conversion only supports 5.1 audio, not 7.1. correct me if Im wrong, which i could be...

[Atak_Snajpera]

use .wav in that case

[gohamstergo]

where is that option? All i see under audio profiles is the AAC and Aften options. (for mkv)

[Atak_Snajpera]

since when Bluray player can play mkv???

[gohamstergo]

Samsung bluray players can stream MKVs over a network. They just dont support FLAC.

[jacksback]

@jacksback
I forgot to add proper downmix for 6.1 audio. You will have to wait for new version.

Thanks Atak

[Dixon Butz]

since when Bluray player can play mkv???

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882005043&Tpk=bd%20390

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=735

[Mihai_]

since when Bluray player can play mkv???

Blu-Ray players that can play MKV from USB:
LG BD390
JVC XV-PB1
Philips BDP9500
Philips HTS8161B
Philips HTS8160B
Philips HTS7200

[nurbs]

Is it really so hard for you guys to understand what Atak_Snajpera meant? When somebody says he can't use flac on his blu-ray player and aften is no option because it only supports 5.1 then it's only natural to assume that you are actually encoding something blu-ray players normally can play, formats allowed on a blu-ray or avchd disc, and not a mkv file. If you expect proper help then don't be so vague about what you are trying to to.

[Kagain]

It looks like I need some help here.

I got a DVD (PAL) that's in 4:3 but the actual display size of the movie is 2.35.

So I open it up in RipBot264 and crop (Top 126,Left 4,Bottom 126,Right 2) and resize to 'SD-PAL 720x576 [2,35:1]' and then start the encode.

When all is done and I open the file in MPC, the movie is 4:3 and the actual display size is 1.78.

What am I doing wrong?

[Atak_Snajpera]

What am I doing wrong?
Nothing. Everything is ok.

[Kagain]

Well, shouldn't the display AR be 2.35 as in the source, not 1.78.

If I first crop and encode the same DVD in megui, After that use RipBot264 to resize to 'SD-PAL 720x576 [2,35:1]' then RipBot264 is adding the correct borders so the Display AR is actually 2.35.

Sorry if I'm not very good at explaining things.

If you have some spare time, just take any 4:3 DVD and crop (Top 126,Left 4,Bottom 126,Right 2) and resize to 'SD-PAL 720x576 [2,35:1]' and encode.

[gohamstergo]

If you expect proper help then don't be so vague about what you are trying to to.

Well, what I want specifically is an option to encode to MKVs with 7.1 audio and no FLAC. Since we cant 'copy stream' TrueHD or DTSMA and Aften is only 5.1, what am I to do? I'll hold out hope that the next update will have some sort of option is what ;)

[Atak_Snajpera]

Well, shouldn't the display AR be 2.35 as in the source, not 1.78.
no. If aspect ratio is higher than 16:9 (1:85,2:35,2:40) then SD 720x480 and 720x576 is encoded as 16:9 with added borders.

Example 720x480 with movie aspect ratio 2:35:1
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/441/new1u.th.png (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/new1u.png/)

[Kagain]

Oh, the problem seems to be that the movie was still encoded as 4:3.
So I had to do the following:

1. Crop and resize
2. Copy the resize script line.
3. Click 'OK' then 'Done'
4. Change from 4:3 to 16:9 in the 'job.ini' file in the temp directory.
5. Paste the resize script line I copied before changing the 'job.ini' file
6. encode

Now the AR is correct

[Killerattacks]

I guess this is a question asked 10000 times before, but is there an easy way to add a lot of similar files for batch processing? I don't really want to use ripbot for this since the file analyzing when you select a source file takes up so long.

[Atak_Snajpera]

I don't really want to use ripbot for this since the file analyzing when you select a source file takes up so long.
So use something else.

[Killerattacks]

Guess I could have seen that answer coming. But nevermind it. Maybe it's just my system. Thx anyway.

[prOnorama]

Used this program for the 1st time (normally use MeGUI) and the result was good but the .mkv rip came out about 1 Mb oversized (I specified DVD5 target size, 4880 Mb). Maybe .mkv overhead is not taken into account? Anyway maybe the DVD5 setting can be set more conservatively (like 4478 or 4476 Mb), because now I have to re-rip it to fit DVD5.

[Atak_Snajpera]

result was good but the .mkv rip came out about 1 Mb oversized
*snip* 4481 MB should still fit on DVD+R with UDF only.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD#DVD_capacity

[TRONDROM]

1mb oversized? Remember a DVD-R has more size than a DVD+R. No need to resize.

[prOnorama]

The point of a target file size is it doesn't get oversized even by 1 Mb so it will fit a medium without problems (maybe the MegUI bitrate calculator undersizes a little @ 4480 Mb, it gets more like around 4 695 000 000 bytes instead of 4 700 000 000 bytes). Yeah maybe it will fit DVD5 with UDF only but I can re-rip it, no problem, I'll try 4475 Mb that should give enough margin for error.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Yeah maybe it will fit DVD5 with UDF only but I can re-rip it, no problem, I'll try 4475 Mb that should give enough margin for error.
Wouldn't be simpler to just try UDF only??? As you can see max for DVD+R is 4482.6 MB and I use 4480 MB.

1mb oversized? Remember a DVD-R has more size than a DVD+R. No need to resize.
exactly!