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Atak_Snajpera
19th November 2008, 19:06
Bigmango install this and let me know if you have those keys:
http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ffdshow-tryout/ffdshow_rev2335_20081117_clsid_sse_icl10.exe

CyberTron88
19th November 2008, 19:07
I'm not sure if I got UAC disabled though... it is default, but my account is administrator

Atak_Snajpera
19th November 2008, 19:10
I'm not sure if I got UAC disabled though... it is default, but my account is administrator
Go to -> Control Panel -> User Account -> Turn User Account off

Bigmango
19th November 2008, 19:11
Bigmango install this and let me know if you have those keys:
http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ffdshow-tryout/ffdshow_rev2335_20081117_clsid_sse_icl10.exe

I have installed it. It's the same as before (everything in ffdshow, nothing in ffdshow_vfw) I have selected all of the installer options, so it's complete.

CyberTron88
19th November 2008, 19:13
Ok. Mine is currently on. So do I have to do anything else after I turn it off?

Atak_Snajpera
19th November 2008, 19:15
Ok I need your help now! Go to VFW configuration (ffdshow). Click decoder tab and change MJPEG section to libavcodec. Click ok and send me again full GNU registry

Ok. Mine is currently on. So do I have to do anything else after I turn it off?
REBOOT!

Bigmango
19th November 2008, 19:21
Ok I need your help now! Go to VFW configuration (ffdshow). Click decoder tab and change MJPEG section to libavcodec. Click ok and send me again full GNU registry


Sent you the reg in PM.

ffdshow_vfw is now populated and ripbot doesnt display the error anymore.

CyberTron88
19th November 2008, 19:29
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GNU]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GNU\ffdshow]
"pth"="C:\\Program Files\\ffdshow"
"revision"=dword:0000091f
"builddate"=dword:013269dd
"lang"="1033"
"8bps"=dword:00000000
"aasc"=dword:00000000
"asv1"=dword:00000000
"cscd"=dword:00000000
"cyuv"=dword:00000000
"dvsd"=dword:00000000
"fps1"=dword:00000000
"iv32"=dword:00000000
"loco"=dword:00000000
"mpegAVI"=dword:00000000
"mpg1"=dword:00000000
"mpg2"=dword:00000000
"mss1"=dword:00000000
"mss2"=dword:00000000
"mszh"=dword:00000000
"qpeg"=dword:00000000
"rawv"=dword:00000000
"rt21"=dword:00000000
"tscc"=dword:00000000
"ulti"=dword:00000000
"vcr1"=dword:00000000
"vixl"=dword:00000000
"wmv1"=dword:00000000
"wmv2"=dword:00000000
"wmv3"=dword:00000000
"wnv1"=dword:00000000
"wvc1"=dword:00000000
"wmvp"=dword:00000000
"wvp2"=dword:00000000
"zlib"=dword:00000000
"zmbv"=dword:00000000
"cram"=dword:00000001
"cvid"=dword:00000001
"div3"=dword:00000001
"duck"=dword:00000001
"dx50"=dword:00000001
"ffv1"=dword:00000001
"flv1"=dword:00000001
"fvfw"=dword:00000001
"h261"=dword:00000001
"h263"=dword:00000001
"h264"=dword:00000001
"hfyu"=dword:00000001
"mjpg"=dword:00000001
"mp41"=dword:00000001
"mp42"=dword:00000001
"mp43"=dword:00000001
"mp4v"=dword:00000001
"png1"=dword:00000001
"qtrle"=dword:00000001
"qtrpza"=dword:00000001
"raw_rawv"=dword:00000001
"rle"=dword:00000001
"svq1"=dword:00000001
"svq3"=dword:00000001
"theo"=dword:00000003
"vp3"=dword:00000001
"vp5"=dword:00000001
"vp6"=dword:00000001
"vp6f"=dword:00000001
"xvid"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GNU\ffdshow_audio]
"isSpkCfg"=dword:00000001
"flac"=dword:00000000
"gsm"=dword:00000000
"iadpcm"=dword:00000000
"law"=dword:00000000
"msadpcm"=dword:00000000
"otherAdpcm"=dword:00000000
"rawa"=dword:00000000
"truespeech"=dword:00000000
"aac"=dword:00000008
"ac3"=dword:0000000f
"amr"=dword:00000001
"dts"=dword:00000011
"eac3"=dword:00000001
"lpcm"=dword:00000004
"mace"=dword:00000001
"mlp"=dword:00000001
"mp2"=dword:00000007
"mp3"=dword:00000007
"qdm2"=dword:00000001
"tta"=dword:00000001
"vorbis"=dword:00000012

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GNU\ffdshow_enc]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GNU\ffdshow_vfw]
"ffv1"=dword:00000001
"fvfw"=dword:00000001
"h264"=dword:00000001
"mp41"=dword:00000001
"mp42"=dword:00000001
"mp43"=dword:00000001
"div3"=dword:00000009
"dx50"=dword:00000009
"xvid"=dword:00000009
"mp4v"=dword:00000009

CyberTron88
19th November 2008, 19:42
ok... disabled uac... made the change in vfw configuration, reboot, and seems to be working now. Is it necessary to turn off uac to work?

juGGaKNot
19th November 2008, 19:45
Bigmango install this and let me know if you have those keys:
http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ffdshow-tryout/ffdshow_rev2335_20081117_clsid_sse_icl10.exe

What ffdshow versions should we use ?

SVN Build By CLSID or icl10 ?

BTW : 11.4 download :

The key you provided for file download was invalid. This is usually caused because the file is no longer stored on Mediafire. This occurs when the file is removed by the originating user or Mediafire.

mikelebron
19th November 2008, 20:21
Where do I get the latest version of RipBOT.. the link is not working..

Ajax_Undone
19th November 2008, 20:41
OK I am unsure of how well this version is working cause it seems as though you need to tweak ffdshow in order to get it to work on Vista x64.. But the installer has been updated.

He is probably patching the issues that others seem to be having at the moment...

asarian
19th November 2008, 21:57
Unfortunately, hibernation is kinda useless for this purpose. For instance, you can't use RipBot264 in XP, hibernate, then boot into Vista (or any other OS), as hibernation blocks the boot-menu, and basically just allows you to either delete the hibernation data and resume regular boot, or to continue from hibernation. In other words: once hibernated, you can't use your machine for anything else! And the whole point of suspending RipBot264 jobs, is precisely to go and do something else with your machine.

So, ideally, I'd let RipBit264 do its work during the night, whereas i could interrupt it for daytime, only to resume encoding again at night.

I know this issue is being notoriously ignored for some reason. :) But I'm pretty sure an interruptable RipBot264, as outlined, would be considered a majorly cool feature, not just by me. So, I hope at some point the powers that be will give it some serious thought.

survivant001
19th November 2008, 22:47
I have better idea. I will enable automatically decoding in ffdshow (VFW section) for mjpg in avi



I had MPEG in AVI = libavcodec
MJEPG = libavcodec

and 1.11.4 works .. happy joy to all of us

Glaan
19th November 2008, 22:47
Atak, can you at least make the convertfps=true option available under properties?for people who need this.there are only a few videos,which need this option.There is also a way to make this stuttering disappear,but it needs a lot of power.
so,if you at least can make this option available under properities,it would be really great.
Thanks,Atak.

nwg
19th November 2008, 22:58
Thanks for the new version. I am still using the previous version. What does convertfps=true actually do? I am keeping the blu ray speed of 24fps so does that mean my current encode will be ok? I still have 12 hours to go.

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 00:09
Atak, can you at least make the convertfps=true option available under properties?for people who need this.there are only a few videos,which need this option.There is also a way to make this stuttering disappear,but it needs a lot of power.
so,if you at least can make this option available under properities,it would be really great.
Thanks,Atak.
You can edit script if you didn't know.

Glaan
20th November 2008, 00:27
if you have any videos with vfr (variable frame rate),then you need convertfps=true to convert these videos to cfr (constant frame rate).

nwg
20th November 2008, 00:29
if you have any videos with vfr (variable frame rate),then you need convertfps=true to convert these videos to cfr (constant frame rate).

Ok so nothing to worry about then for me.

Glaan
20th November 2008, 00:42
Atak,
it's not a problem for me to edit a script,but it requires a little bit more of time.if you have a batch of 20 videos,it can be quite annoying.
fine with me,if it's to much effort for you.
thanks nevertheless.

CyberTron88
20th November 2008, 03:22
wierd... after i disabled my uac in vista, and re-enable back uac, ffdshow does not get detected. Previously when it was enabled by default, there was no issue detecting ffdshow. Anyone knows how to fix this?

prettyboy85712
20th November 2008, 05:23
Atak,

Thank you for the update.

Adub
20th November 2008, 07:25
Minor bug report:
When compressing some of my Lost videos, as a test for the new Ripbot, I discovered that when I am creating a custom profile for x264, and I raise the number of reference frames above 9, and try to save the profile, I receive an error about: " is not a valid integer

When I lower the refs to 9, it lets me save the profile. However, after I have run a completed job using this profile, when I try to add a new job to the queue, I receive the same error, and am unable to proceed.

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 11:20
wierd... after i disabled my uac in vista, and re-enable back uac, ffdshow does not get detected. Previously when it was enabled by default, there was no issue detecting ffdshow. Anyone knows how to fix this?
Forget about UAC because even Microsoft admitted that this option is useless and annoying (It will be removed in Windows 7)

juGGaKNot
20th November 2008, 12:50
What ffdshow versions should we use ?

SVN Build By CLSID or icl10 ?


Answer .. ? :)

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 12:58
Answer .. ?
It does not matter

Bigmango
20th November 2008, 12:58
Answer .. ? :)

Haven't you seen the link Atak posted above ? It's the icl10 build by clsid.

nwg
20th November 2008, 13:06
Would it be possible to be able to load a extracted chapters.txt file from a Blu Ray/HD DVD.

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 13:58
Would it be possible to be able to load a extracted chapters.txt file from a Blu Ray/HD DVD.
chapters.txt is automatically added if present in jobx directory

nwg
20th November 2008, 14:52
chapters.txt is automatically added if present in jobx directory

I can get actual chapters from a blu ray but I mean if I have a chapter.txt file prior to starting ripbot.

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 16:02
copy chapter.txt to jobx directory

nwg
20th November 2008, 18:00
copy chapter.txt to jobx directory

Ok, I try that.

DYZ
20th November 2008, 19:25
one question about the profiles in version 1.11.4:

i've just startet a new job a few minutes ago and ask myself if there are other profiles for "blu-ray output"???
for example bluray 4.1 high-quality, or bluray 4.1 average quality or something like that...

the reason why i ask is, i dont know how to handle all the options like buffer size etc pp... :o

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 19:34
i've just startet a new job a few minutes ago and ask myself if there are other profiles for "blu-ray output"???
for example bluray 4.1 high-quality, or bluray 4.1 average quality or something like that...

the reason why i ask is, i dont know how to handle all the options like buffer size etc pp...
Current profile is definatelly High quality so do not change anything!

DYZ
20th November 2008, 19:38
you mean the normal bluray 4.0 output in ripbot version 1.11.4 is already for high quality?

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 19:40
4.0 or 4.1 it does not matter! Have you read first post?!?!

DYZ
20th November 2008, 19:44
4.0 or 4.1 it does not matter! Have you read first post?!?!

for sure! you said there that the bitrate is in 4.0 -> max. 20mbps and in profile 4.1 -> max. 50 mbps and thats my question: a higher bitrate enables more detailed pictures, isnt it that way?! and if you can change the bitrate, perhaps there are other settings which could have a use of a higher bitrate - thats my idea behind the question.

microchip8
20th November 2008, 19:56
for sure! you said there that the bitrate is in 4.0 -> max. 20mbps and in profile 4.1 -> max. 50 mbps and thats my question: a higher bitrate enables more detailed pictures, isnt it that way?! and if you can change the bitrate, perhaps there are other settings which could have a use of a higher bitrate - thats my idea behind the question.

Actually, there are two max for level 4.0.

Baseline/Main @ L4.0 -> max 20 Mbps
High @ L4.0 -> max 25 Mbps

and do you really think you will see a huge difference between encoding @ 20 Mbps and 50 Mbps ?

Even the BBC and their high-quality 1080p content is encoded only at 18 Mbps IIRC

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 19:56
for sure! you said there that the bitrate is in 4.0 -> max. 20mbps and in profile 4.1 -> max. 50 mbps and thats my question: a higher bitrate enables more detailed pictures, isnt it that way?! and if you can change the bitrate, perhaps there are other settings which could have a use of a higher bitrate - thats my idea behind the question.
For god sake! How often do you encode above insane 20Mbps!??!

DYZ
20th November 2008, 20:04
Actually, there are two max for level 4.0.

Baseline/Main @ L4.0 -> max 20 Mbps
High @ L4.0 -> max 25 Mbps

and do you really think you will see a huge difference between encoding @ 20 Mbps and 50 Mbps ?

Even the BBC and their high-quality 1080p content is encoded only at 18 Mbps IIRC

what is "IIRC" ?? :helpful:


For go sake! How often do you encode above insane 20Mbps!??!

ok, if you say level 4.0 is already high quality, ill accept it, but ive one more question for my understanding: i have a ps3, and when playing back movies, i can see the current bitrate of the movie and sound. is that bitrate ment for the profiles or am i on a wrong way?

nwg
20th November 2008, 20:20
For god sake! How often do you encode above insane 20Mbps!??!

How about people who are burning Blu Ray? There must be some.

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 20:22
How about people who are burning Blu Ray? There must be some.
So what? The question is : Will you see difference above 20Mbps? I don't think so!

DYZ
20th November 2008, 20:25
How about people who are burning Blu Ray? There must be some.

yeah, i do! thats why i use ripbot, because its the simplest way to shrink data to fit on a 25gb bd-r

and if im not tooooooo confused, ive already seen bitrates on bluray which are over 90mbsp! (King Kong on bluray i guess)

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 20:27
and if im not tooooooo confused, ive already seen bitrates on bluray which are over 90mbsp! (King Kong on bluray i guess)
Yeah! Right :) Bit-rate can not be higher than 50MBps in 4.1 profile

90MBps/8=11.25 MB/s
11.25 MB/s * 10800 s (3h movie) = 119 GB :)

DYZ
20th November 2008, 20:29
So what? The question is : Will you see difference above 20Mbps? I don't think so!

its a question about thoughts: some say mp3 in 128k is nearly cd-quality, others say 192k.... ;)

so in generell, im right with my assumption that the bitrate shown in my ps3 is according to the bitrate i choose in the profile (4.0 or 4.1) - right?!?!?

DYZ
20th November 2008, 20:30
Yeah! Right :) Bit-rate can not be higher than 50MBps in 4.1 profile

thanks a lot!!!! :goodpost: :helpful:

DYZ
20th November 2008, 20:45
Yeah! Right :) Bit-rate can not be higher than 50MBps in 4.1 profile

90MBps/8=11.25 MB/s
11.25 MB/s * 10800 s (3h movie) = 119 GB :)

i just ment peaks which are above 90mbps - and not the whole movie..
average might be at 40mbps but i mentioned peak values

microchip8
20th November 2008, 21:01
what is "IIRC" ?? :helpful:


IIRC = If I Recall Correctly :)

os10
20th November 2008, 21:12
this is my first try at using ripbot but it's not working on my system. i am using vista 64.

i uninstalled K-lite codec pack first, then installed ripbot. i kept all the default options during install. everything installs OK. when i click on the ripbot link on my desktop, an error pops up: [ Failed to get data for 'mjpg' ] then it loads ripbot. The Add link is available, so I click on that and the Encoding Settings window pops up. The only option I can select at this point is the [...] button for Video. So I choose a file, then across the bottom I see a notice "Please wait, demuxing audio" then "Please wait, gathering information". Once that message dissapears, nothing else happens. i can't choose any options in this window, it's frozen. The only button that works is the Abort button. i can close the window but that's it.

i've tried various video files, ripbot acts the same. tried uninstalling it and reinstalling, no change.

any idea what the problem is here??

DYZ
20th November 2008, 21:23
im using vista 64bit business - and works well...

perhaps there are rests left in your registy which k-lite left back. try this http://download.chip.eu/en/TuneUp-Utilities-2008_30881.html

uninstall ripbot, run registry cleaner in the tuneup utilities, reboot, and reinstall ripbot - should work this way...

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 21:55
any idea what the problem is here??
The problem is that you didn't download original file from my first post

Dark Shikari
20th November 2008, 22:11
i just ment peaks which are above 90mbps - and not the whole movie..
average might be at 40mbps but i mentioned peak values50 megabits/s is the limit on peak bitrate, not the limit on average bitrate. ;)

Ajax_Undone
20th November 2008, 22:12
??? Is the installed version causing problems???

DYZ
20th November 2008, 22:33
50 megabits/s is the limit on peak bitrate, not the limit on average bitrate. ;)

i know, atak just confirmed what i thought.

we were talkin about bitrates and which are usefull and which not. obviously its an "authors thing" which bitrates you use and which not.
at my point of view it offers a better result when you use level 4.1 instead of level 4.0 for bluray output because peaks will often tear the 20mbps-line... BUT, its an author-thing! :D

Sou1taker
20th November 2008, 22:38
this is my first try at using ripbot but it's not working on my system. i am using vista 64.

i uninstalled K-lite codec pack first, then installed ripbot. i kept all the default options during install. everything installs OK. when i click on the ripbot link on my desktop, an error pops up: [ Failed to get data for 'mjpg' ] then it loads ripbot. The Add link is available, so I click on that and the Encoding Settings window pops up. The only option I can select at this point is the [...] button for Video. So I choose a file, then across the bottom I see a notice "Please wait, demuxing audio" then "Please wait, gathering information". Once that message dissapears, nothing else happens. i can't choose any options in this window, it's frozen. The only button that works is the Abort button. i can close the window but that's it.

i've tried various video files, ripbot acts the same. tried uninstalling it and reinstalling, no change.

any idea what the problem is here??

well i have the same problem and uninstalled every + reg clean, still the same error. I tried ajax installer 2 but its the same :(

Ajax_Undone
20th November 2008, 22:40
OK ;-) I C Trixtie little hobbits... The installer has just been updated... It now works Download and enjoy... :)

Please for the love of it all get rid of the Codec Packs....

os10
20th November 2008, 22:48
The problem is that you didn't download original file from my first post

Yes that seems to be the case. I originally got it from videohelp.com. I am now using the files from the first post of this thread and it is working.

edit: forgot to say thanks for the tip. :)

juGGaKNot
20th November 2008, 23:07
It does not matter

THNX!

For god sake! How often do you encode above insane 20Mbps!??!

CQ 18 and my 720P 100 FPS is about 18 MB, 1080p is over but who encodes 1080p at 100 FPS ? just me.

4.0 is great.

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 23:23
CQ 18 and my 720P 100 FPS is about 18 MB, 1080p is over but who encodes 1080p at 100 FPS ? just me.

4.0 is great.
My goal was to create single most compatible profile! 4.0 profile works with all current media devices (tvix popcorn and similar) and blu-rays (DVD bluray and BD blurays). Divx guys thinks in the same way. Besides I am simple guy who likes simplicity so you won't see 20 almost similar profiles!

1080p at 100fps?!?!?!?!? What do you do exactly???!?!?!?

DYZ
20th November 2008, 23:25
CQ 18 and my 720P 100 FPS is about 18 MB, 1080p is over but who encodes 1080p at 100 FPS ? just me.

4.0 is great.

i think some guys dont realy know what they are talkin about....

ive already seen a lot of bluray movies which have bitrates far over 50mbps which offers level4.1 or how do you explain the existance of a level5.1.... and once again: these borders of 20,50 or 90 mbps are only peaks, not konstant bitrates!

Atak_Snajpera
20th November 2008, 23:28
how do you explain the existance of a level5.1
Here is your homework
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264#Levels
Happy now? :)

jamd1
21st November 2008, 00:04
Updates keep coming and program is getting better - Not sure if you have noticed this before but sometimes ripbot incorrectly detects a bluray video stream to be 25 fps instead of 23.976. This has happened on several movies when adding from bluray structure. 2 movies that I can remember the problem with are "godfather 1" and "Don't mess with the Zohan". Obviously this results in a very out of sync movie. I t can be corrected by editing the tsmuxer.meta file but this produces a bit of video garbage after the movie for a few minutes. With Godfather 1 I remuxed the movie with Tsmuxer and added the stream to ripbot outside of the bluray structure and it did detect the correct fps.
Thx for all the recent improvements.

asarian
21st November 2008, 00:06
Actually, there are two max for level 4.0.

Baseline/Main @ L4.0 -> max 20 Mbps
High @ L4.0 -> max 25 Mbps

and do you really think you will see a huge difference between encoding @ 20 Mbps and 50 Mbps ?

Even the BBC and their high-quality 1080p content is encoded only at 18 Mbps IIRC
It's not a question of whether or not you'll see the difference. Atak presented the change to 4.0 as merely a formality, whereas it has real bitrate consequences (as I pointed out in an earlier post in this thread).

Also, many BD content reaches up to 30Mbps or more.
And even with my custom-rolled CRF=16 'extremely high' Blu-Ray profile, it's not uncommon to see bitrates well over 20Mbps. So, I still say the decision to go to L4.0 was a questionable one. It's one of the reasons I'm still using 1.10.5, btw.

Atak_Snajpera
21st November 2008, 00:09
Updates keep coming and program is getting better - Not sure if you have noticed this before but sometimes ripbot incorrectly detects a bluray video stream to be 25 fps instead of 23.976.
inform madshi about this problem. He is responsible for eac3to tool. Send him sample 50 MB. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966

Obviously this results in a very out of sync movie. I t can be corrected by editing the tsmuxer.meta
Did you try AssumeFPS -> 23.976 in gui?? Don't forget to set in a/v same length CUT This should remove garbage at the end of movie.

nwg
21st November 2008, 01:37
Hi.

Is it possible that Ripbot could work with Blu Ray sup files rather than having to convert them to srt first?

poisondeathray
21st November 2008, 01:43
It's not a question of whether or not you'll see the difference. Atak presented the change to 4.0 as merely a formality, whereas it has real bitrate consequences (as I pointed out in an earlier post in this thread).

Also, many BD content reaches up to 30Mbps or more.
And even with my custom-rolled CRF=16 'extremely high' Blu-Ray profile, it's not uncommon to see bitrates well over 20Mbps. So, I still say the decision to go to L4.0 was a questionable one. It's one of the reasons I'm still using 1.10.5, btw.

Even if this is true, why don't you just change it if you prefer 4.1? You don't have to use the exact profile, you can customize as you see fit

It takes <5seconds to do this.

Ajax_Undone
21st November 2008, 02:00
Maybe a custom profile builder would be great...

poisondeathray
21st November 2008, 02:13
Maybe a custom profile builder would be great...

When you use the normal version (not installer), you can make your own profile in the profile directory. It's a simple text file.

I just made a

[ level 4.1 ] HD . BluRay . Consoles.txt

profile and changed around a few parameters. While mediainfo reports the changes as correct on the encoded file, I am unsure if the mechanics of ripbot "see" theses changes and passthrough to the actual encode.

EDIT: I examined the logs, and it appears that the changes were passed through. Perhaps Atak can confirm/refute this ?

DeareN
21st November 2008, 03:04
Hello, I have just installed ripbot 1.11.4 and it stucks when I open an mkv file. In the beggining it also says failed to set data for mjpg.
I have the 1.11 version also and it loads the mkvs. I erased them both and tried seperetely and only version 1.11 works.
My 1.11.4 stucks also on blu-rays, it immediately opens windows media player and I get the message Directshowsourse: couldn't open file f:\temp\ripbotemp etc mkv file.
I don't know what to do and I need the version 1.11.4 because with 1.11 I face the common problem in the first two minutes of a film.
Thank you Atak for this great job anyway, I already try to find what causes this in my 1.11.4, I use vista ultimate, not an uac issue I suppose(version 1.11.0 works very well).

P.S when you burn an avchd disc, you write the hole 0000.bluray folder or the bdmv folder without the certificate folder?

Ajax_Undone
21st November 2008, 03:52
When you use the normal version (not installer), you can make your own profile in the profile directory. It's a simple text file.

Oh my gosh I didn't know that. ***Sarcasm

I meant one for ease and one with info on particular settings..


I just made a

[ level 4.1 ] HD . BluRay . Consoles.txt

profile and changed around a few parameters. While mediainfo reports the changes as correct on the encoded file, I am unsure if the mechanics of ripbot "see" theses changes and passthrough to the actual encode.

EDIT: I examined the logs, and it appears that the changes were passed through. Perhaps Atak can confirm/refute this ?

No one is going to try to refute this! Its not impossible but it is not compatible with all hardware! This is Ataks intention.

You can create your own profiles and enjoy. Just don't try to force them on the developer who is seeking compatibility rather then unification to one type player...

Ripbot is only a front end you can just use a standard command line with any program in the tools directory. No one forces you to use it...

So dude please stop trying to make people mad...:rolleyes:

poisondeathray
21st November 2008, 03:58
Oh my gosh I didn't know that. ***Sarcasm

I meant one for ease and one with info on particular settings..



No one is going to try to refute this! Its not impossible but it is not compatible with all hardware! This is Ataks intention.

You can create your own profiles and enjoy. Just don't try to force them on the developer who is seeking compatibility rather then unification to one type player...

Ripbot is only a front end you can just use a standard command line with any program in the tools directory. No one forces you to use it...

So dude please stop trying to make people mad...:rolleyes:

Sorry dude, chill.

I was honestly trying to be helpful to one of the posts. If you read my previous post #3066 I said you can create your own profiles - in fact I suggested it, not to Atak, but to the person who wanted Atak to implement it! I suggested it such that Atak would NOT have to do any more work. :)

Sorry if you misinterpreted me...I actually think ripbot is nice becaues of the clean tidy interface. I don't want a zillion buttons to mess up the gui.

asarian
21st November 2008, 04:10
Sorry dude, chill.

I was honestly trying to be helpful to one of the posts. If you read my previous post #3066 I said you can create your own profiles - in fact I suggested it, not to Atak, but to the person who wanted Atak to implement it!
That person, being yours truly, actually put no such question to Atak. I just frowned a bit at Atak's decision to downgrade to L4.0, is all.

poisondeathray
21st November 2008, 04:14
That person, being yours truly, actually put no such question to Atak. I just frowned a bit at Atak's decision to downgrade to L4.0, is all.

OK sorry for misinterpreting you then, asarian, please disregard my observations then!

Cheers

Ajax_Undone
21st November 2008, 04:16
Sorry! its that you sounded so condescending. It's a simple text file.

poisondeathray
21st November 2008, 04:20
Sorry Ajax, I didn't mean any condescending tones, it was more of an observation on my part.

Cheers

asarian
21st November 2008, 04:37
Oh my gosh I didn't know that. ***Sarcasm
No one is going to try to refute this! Its not impossible but it is not compatible with all hardware! This is Ataks intention.

You can also turn this around: Blu-Ray compatible hardware/software is required, by definition, to support High Profile Level 4.1. So, if there's a player out there that can't, or won't comply, I'd say that's their problem.


Just don't try to force them on the developer who is seeking compatibility rather then unification to one type player...

I think ere the opposite is true: way I understood it, there's exactly 1 player that apparently can't do the High 4.1 level and 'forced' Atak to downgraded to L4.0.


I just made a

[ level 4.1 ] HD . BluRay . Consoles.txt

profile and changed around a few parameters. While mediainfo reports the changes as correct on the encoded file, I am unsure if the mechanics of ripbot "see" theses changes and passthrough to the actual encode.

EDIT: I examined the logs, and it appears that the changes were passed through. Perhaps Atak can confirm/refute this ?

I actually consider your findings useful. :) All too often, like with certain .mkv files, you'll see people just changed the header to set a level (obviously, you can't 'fake' a 5.1 level to play like a 4.1 one, but I've seen headers that are manually set to 4.1, whereas it's really just 4.0). So, it's good to hear the changes are real, and not just cosmetic. I'm curious, though, have you also confirmed that the bitrate on L4.0 profile never goes over 25Mbps?


So dude please stop trying to make people mad...:rolleyes:

I see no reason for anyone to get upset, really; a little clarification never hurt anyone. :)

asarian
21st November 2008, 04:53
Maybe a custom profile builder would be great...

Or simply adding a few extra 'super-high' Profiles would be nice, too. A particular one I'm using, for instance, is having "CRF=16", "MotionEstimationAlgorithm=4 - ESA", and "SubpixelRefinement=7 - RDO level 2" for that extra, extra quality. :) A custom profile builder in which you could pick such options and roll your own would be handy, for sure, but is probably a somewhat tedious job writing.

poisondeathray
21st November 2008, 04:58
I actually consider your findings useful. :) All too often, like with certain .mkv files, you'll see people just changed the header to set a level (obviously, you can't 'fake' a 5.1 level to play like a 4.1 one, but I've seen headers that are manually set to 4.1, whereas it's really just 4.0). So, it's good to hear the changes are real, and not just cosmetic. I'm curious, though, have you also confirmed that the bitrate on L4.0 profile never goes over 25Mbps?


Hi, I did check on a few samples with a stream analyser before, but that is by no means an exhautive list, so I can't say "never" goes over

asarian
21st November 2008, 05:09
Hi, I did check on a few samples with a stream analyser before, but that is by no means an exhautive list, so I can't say "never" goes over

Well, now that latest ffdshow issues seem resolved with the latest versions of RipBot264, I'll try a test myself tomorrow with an 'insanely high' Profile. :) Cuz now I'm too curious not to find out.

Ajax_Undone
21st November 2008, 05:17
asarian Poison

I will be happy to include profiles that you make as custom in the installer.

Just make them and upload them. Just as simple as that.

As far as Atak I don't know. It would be nice but he is aiming for simplicity...

And asarian there are people who purchased some hardware/software at some amazingly high prices when bluray was released you can't hold it against them for making the cheaper choice w/o options...

poisondeathray
21st November 2008, 05:27
asarian Poison

I will be happy to include profiles that you make as custom in the installer.

Just make them and upload them. Just as simple as that.

As far as Atak I don't know. It would be nice but he is aiming for simplicity...

And asarian there are people who purchased some hardware/software at some amazingly high prices when bluray was released you can't hold it against them for making the cheaper choice w/o options...

Actually I'd prefer if you didn't!

The whole point of my observation/exercise was for me to determine if you could easily make your own custom profile...in the same way you could with other encoding GUIs. That way default settings still have the maximum compatiblity for all users, and end users have the <option> of making their own profiles for frequently used profiles. - so we would wouldn't create anymore work for Atak or you with your installer!

Again I'm sorry if I sounded condescending as you probably already knew how to do this (I never knew you were the installer-maker as I never used that version before), but I was just sharing a new finding (for me), and just want confirmation that it works, and wasn't just passing useless "header information."

dchao
21st November 2008, 05:57
Bug Report:

Version: 1.11.4

O/S: WinXP-SP3

When I launch RipBot264, I get an error message "Failed to set data for 'mjpeg' ". I click OK, and then RipBot264 window will open. This didn't happen in 1.11.2

Also, when I rip a HD-DVD, after the HD-DVD structure window is displayed, I click OK, immediately, before anything is demuxed, I get a new error message from the following line in getinfo.avs:

"DirectShowSource("C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job0\video.mkv",audio=false).ConvertToYV12()"

The error message is: "DirectShowSource: Couldn't open file c:\temp\ripbot264temp\job0\video.mkv"

Atak_Snajpera
21st November 2008, 07:58
Bug Report:

Version: 1.11.4

O/S: WinXP-SP3

When I launch RipBot264, I get an error message "Failed to set data for 'mjpeg' ". I click OK, and then RipBot264 window will open. This didn't happen in 1.11.2
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1215256#post1215256

DYZ
21st November 2008, 08:21
Actually I'd prefer if you didn't!

The whole point of my observation/exercise was for me to determine if you could easily make your own custom profile...in the same way you could with other encoding GUIs. That way default settings still have the maximum compatiblity for all users, and end users have the <option> of making their own profiles for frequently used profiles. - so we would wouldn't create anymore work for Atak or you with your installer!

Again I'm sorry if I sounded condescending as you probably already knew how to do this (I never knew you were the installer-maker as I never used that version before), but I was just sharing a new finding (for me), and just want confirmation that it works, and wasn't just passing useless "header information."

i see the things exactly your way, and this was the reason why i started this questions - everybody should be able to adjust his own profiles; if possible in an easy way integrated in ripbot - thats all!

@poisondeathray would you mind if you'd upload your custom high profile, so everybody interested can compare his settings with yours?!

juGGaKNot
21st November 2008, 09:03
My goal was to create single most compatible profile! 4.0 profile works with all current media devices (tvix popcorn and similar) and blu-rays (DVD bluray and BD blurays). Divx guys thinks in the same way. Besides I am simple guy who likes simplicity so you won't see 20 almost similar profiles!

True, thats why people love ripbot

1080p at 100fps?!?!?!?!? What do you do exactly???!?!?!?

Waste time with game footage ( counter strike 1.6 mostly ) where more FPS = better look

100 FPS would be perfect but it brakes DXVA on my pc.

All i have done for 2-3 years now is documentation for a full movie, 100 minutes with mixt 3D footage + cam footage + game footage.

In the end i think i will use a lower resolution because i cant find a cam that recorded at 100 FPS.

will see, just test.

4.0 is the best way, people can make there own 4.1 profiles no ?

DeareN
21st November 2008, 12:15
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1215256#post1215256

I have the same bug and I've downloaded it from your first post in the first place. I downloaded it again and it makes the same problem. By the time I am writing this message I make my 5th successful movie with version 1.11.0 .

asarian
21st November 2008, 14:19
Okay, I tried 1.11.4, and, regret to say, things are completely screwed up beyond all recognition. I installed ffdshow_rev2335_20081117_clsid_sse_icl10 and everything else needed (and yes, rebooted).

So, I tried to test a short AVC Pixar movie called "Burn-E" (around 7 mins). RipBot264 reports no errors, but races through it at ~44 fps, and creates a measly 4K output .m2ts (bluray structure) which is totally jibberish.

And that's why I still use 1.10.5. :)

I added the log, btw.

Ajax_Undone
21st November 2008, 16:30
I have Vista x64 on both my computers and neither one of them have these problems... I have completed 1 bluray, 4 DvD's, and 6 Divx files...

And I used the installed version... There has to be something wrong with your configuration...

DYZ
21st November 2008, 17:20
i have vista 64bit installed,too.

just completed my first bd with new version 1.11.4 - and looks amazing like other outputs before this "stuttering" in version 1.11.0-1.11.3

so, actual version works fine!

dchao
21st November 2008, 22:22
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1215256#post1215256
That did not work in my case.

I have always downloaded RipBot264 from the link on your first page.

I have 1.11.4 installed on two machines now, one is WinXP-SP3 and the other newly installed Win Server 2003. WinXP is the PC that's upgraded from 1.11.2, and receives the "Failed to set data for mjpeg" error message. Whereas the Win Server version is OK.

Anyway, I decided to download and unzipped it on WindXP again, but got the same error.

I've also kept a copy of 1.11.2 on WinXP, and when running 1.11.2, no problem, as soon as I switch to 1.11.4, error comes back.

(FYI: it quits before it produces any HD-DVD_structure_info files, in another word, before it reads the DVD structure)

Any help greatly appreciated.

Atak_Snajpera
21st November 2008, 22:30
"Failed to set data for mjpeg"
are you sure that it says mjpeg instead of mjpg ????

Send me full HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU registry

I added the log, btw.
In log I see --crf 4 (!?!?!) . Did you check if preview was working?!?!?

dchao
21st November 2008, 22:46
[QUOTE=Atak_Snajpera;1215664]are you sure that it says mjpeg instead of mjpg ????

Send me full HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU registry


My mistake , it should say "mjpg"

Here is my GNU reg key:


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow]
"fastH264"=dword:00000000
"subTextpin"=dword:00000001
"subTextpinSSA"=dword:00000001
"isBlacklist"=dword:00000001
"blacklist"="oblivion.exe;morrowind.exe;"
"8bps"=dword:00000000
"aasc"=dword:00000000
"asv1"=dword:00000000
"cram"=dword:00000000
"cscd"=dword:00000000
"cyuv"=dword:00000000
"duck"=dword:00000000
"dvsd"=dword:00000000
"fps1"=dword:00000000
"h261"=dword:00000000
"iv32"=dword:00000000
"loco"=dword:00000000
"mjpg"=dword:00000000
"mpegAVI"=dword:00000000
"mpg1"=dword:00000001
"mpg2"=dword:00000001
"mss1"=dword:00000000
"mss2"=dword:00000000
"mszh"=dword:00000000
"png1"=dword:00000000
"qpeg"=dword:00000000
"rawv"=dword:00000000
"rle"=dword:00000000
"rt21"=dword:00000000
"theo"=dword:00000000
"tscc"=dword:00000000
"ulti"=dword:00000000
"vcr1"=dword:00000000
"vixl"=dword:00000000
"vp3"=dword:00000000
"wmv1"=dword:00000001
"wmv2"=dword:00000001
"wmv3"=dword:00000001
"wnv1"=dword:00000000
"wvc1"=dword:00000001
"wmvp"=dword:00000000
"wvp2"=dword:00000000
"zlib"=dword:00000000
"zmbv"=dword:00000000
"cvid"=dword:00000001
"div3"=dword:00000001
"dx50"=dword:00000001
"ffv1"=dword:00000001
"flv1"=dword:00000001
"fvfw"=dword:00000001
"h263"=dword:00000001
"h264"=dword:00000001
"hfyu"=dword:00000001
"mp41"=dword:00000001
"mp42"=dword:00000001
"mp43"=dword:00000001
"mp4v"=dword:00000001
"qtrle"=dword:00000001
"qtrpza"=dword:00000001
"raw_rawv"=dword:00000001
"svq1"=dword:00000001
"svq3"=dword:00000001
"vp5"=dword:00000001
"vp6"=dword:00000001
"vp6f"=dword:00000001
"xvid"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow\default]
"postprocH264mode"=dword:00000000
"resizeMethod"=dword:00000009
"subIsExpand"=dword:00000000
"isSubtitles"=dword:00000000
"threadsnum"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow_audio]
"isBlacklist"=dword:00000001
"blacklist"="oblivion.exe;morrowind.exe;"
"flac"=dword:00000000
"gsm"=dword:00000000
"iadpcm"=dword:00000000
"law"=dword:00000000
"msadpcm"=dword:00000000
"otherAdpcm"=dword:00000000
"rawa"=dword:00000000
"truespeech"=dword:00000000
"aac"=dword:00000008
"ac3"=dword:0000000f
"amr"=dword:00000001
"dts"=dword:00000011
"eac3"=dword:00000001
"lpcm"=dword:00000004
"mace"=dword:00000001
"mlp"=dword:00000001
"mp2"=dword:00000007
"mp3"=dword:00000007
"qdm2"=dword:00000001
"tta"=dword:00000001
"vorbis"=dword:00000012

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow_audio\default]
"mixerNormalizeMatrix"=dword:00000000
"volNormalize"=dword:00000000
"ismixer"=dword:00000001
"mixerOut"=dword:00000001
"passthroughAC3"=dword:00000000
"passthroughDTS"=dword:00000000

Ajax_Undone
21st November 2008, 23:03
change mjpg in the reg from this "mjpg"=dword:00000000 to this "mjpg"=dword:00000001 right click {}modify -> hex from 0 to 1 click {OK} it should work

Atak_Snajpera
21st November 2008, 23:16
Here is my GNU reg key:
Now I see why you get this error. Basically there is no [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow_vfw] . Peace of cake :)
BTW. I really don't understand why this path is not created automatically by installer like other paths ?!?!?!

Edit: Jesus it was the easiest fix I have ever made. I had to change one value from false (CanCreate) to true :)

dchao
21st November 2008, 23:31
Hi Atak,

I manually added "GNU\ffdshow_vfw" and "GNU\ffdshow_vfw\default" and it's working now. Thanks!

My PC is quite clean, and I only use it for ripping DVD's, doesn't have many versions of ffdshow install on it . So for some reason, this path wasn't created on my PC by the ffdshow installer.

asarian
22nd November 2008, 00:30
In log I see --crf 4 (!?!?!) . Did you check if preview was working?!?!?

Also on CRF=16 (preview works) the actual rendering still goes the same (see log).

survivant001
22nd November 2008, 01:02
Now I see why you get this error. Basically there is no [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow_vfw] . Peace of cake :)
BTW. I really don't understand why this path is not created automatically by installer like other paths ?!?!?!

Edit: Jesus it was the easiest fix I have ever made. I had to change one value from false (CanCreate) to true :)

can we expect a 1.11.5 soon ? I installed 1.11.4 on a co-worker PC, but it's really not good with computer so I won't ask him to do that himself. He will kill his Windows :)

asarian
22nd November 2008, 01:53
I have Vista x64 on both my computers and neither one of them have these problems... I have completed 1 bluray, 4 DvD's, and 6 Divx files...

And I used the installed version... There has to be something wrong with your configuration...

Well, as I just posted, preview is working fine: it's the actual rendering that goes awry. Though I have "CheckRequiredSoftware=1", what version of AviSynth does 1.11.4 require? I have the stable 2.5.7.

Ajax_Undone
22nd November 2008, 03:36
That is the version it requires. The latest beta has so many changes I don't think its even in the same realm.

survivant001
22nd November 2008, 03:40
@Ajax_Undone

can you provide a ripbot installer with all the dependancies ? ffdshow installation + configuration (like mpeg in avi, mjpeg...)

A one click installer for dummy.

Ajax_Undone
22nd November 2008, 05:59
It would take a while. I will see about doing that though..

I hope I get what your after! One that installs all FFD pre-configured to the settings needed to run ripbot...

I could just use registry plug-in and have it edit the values to default upon end of install config... This would be easiest rather then compiling the whole svn to place it into an installer as part of the ripbot264 installation.

But yeah I will give it a go.. I just want to see what Atak come out with in the next version...

dchao
22nd November 2008, 07:22
I did some testing on both my PC's (one contains the registry key ffdshow_vfw and the other doesn't).

It seems that after you run the ffdshow installer and if you choose not to run the VFW configuratator during the last step of the ffdshow installation, then ffdshow_vfw is not setup automatically. After I ran the VFW configurator, everything under ffdshow_vfw became populated.

So before RipBot264 inserts the mjpg value into the registry, it should check for the existence of the key ffdshow_vfw, if it doesn't exist, create one first.

asarian
22nd November 2008, 08:35
I hope I get what your after! One that installs all FFD pre-configured to the settings needed to run ripbot...

Hmm, this is interesting. I just used your installer for the first time (I tend to just unrar the folder and move it to \Program Files\), and now RipBot264 actually seems to render properly: from a ludicrous 44fps to ca 2fps (about right for my high profile).

Well, that begs the question: what is your installer actually doing extra? I though all RipBot's needed files were localized under its parent?

Atak_Snajpera
22nd November 2008, 11:41
Well, that begs the question: what is your installer actually doing extra? I though all RipBot's needed files were localized under its parent?
Ajax installer contains all files from my .7z file + possibility to download latest ffdshow , haali media splitter and stable avisynth 2.5.7. Probably you had some conflict on you pc.

can we expect a 1.11.5 soon ? I installed 1.11.4 on a co-worker PC, but it's really not good with computer so I won't ask him to do that himself. He will kill his Windows
Maybe tomorrow . I need to see if madshi will update eac3to on sunday

asarian
22nd November 2008, 11:54
Ajax installer contains all files from my .7z file + possibility to download latest ffdshow , haali media splitter and stable avisynth 2.5.7. Probably you had some conflict on you pc.

I only let the Ajax installer install RipBot264 itself plus haali media splitter (I already had the correct ffdshow version and AviSynth). So maybe it was the newer haali media splitter?

P.S. I love how the new Profile files are just the command-line options for x264 directly: makes things much more transparent and easier to add extra x264 stuff.

survivant001
22nd November 2008, 14:00
Ajax installer contains all files from my .7z file + possibility to download latest ffdshow , haali media splitter and stable avisynth 2.5.7. Probably you had some conflict on you pc.


that why 2 versions should be available. One only for ripbot264 and others with everything. The 2tn could be use to do a new installation on a fresh PC and the 1th one use for the upgrade release of ripbot. Just a though.


Maybe tomorrow . I need to see if madshi will update eac3to on sunday

thanks

mikelebron
22nd November 2008, 16:52
Question.. when I select x.xCOPYSTREAM, if the original lets say is TrueHD will the MKV that I create be TrueHD or just AC3?

What does COPYSTREAM actually mean? Exact copy?

Ajax_Undone
22nd November 2008, 18:19
Just AC3 the video its self will be processed to the profiles specs + what ever else you've selected for the properties. Crop, de-interlace, decimate, assumefps, and so on...

Don't think RipBot can do pass through on video cause it does not unpack the h.264 stream from the original file.

But even if it did what would be the point besides changing possible container...

asarian
22nd November 2008, 18:54
Just AC3 the video its self will be processed to the profiles specs + what ever else you've selected for the properties. Crop, de-interlace, decimate, assumefps, and so on...

Don't think RipBot can do pass through on video cause it does not unpack the h.264 stream from the original file.

But even if it did what would be the point besides changing possible container...

Well, pass-through video would indeed be pointless. Audio, however, is another matter; and, far as I'm concerned, should be passed through without any modification. Since RipBot264 seems to be using eac3to to extract the audio, there are pitfalls, though, when extracting AC3, that warrant treading carefully. From the wiki:


Some decoders apply DRC (Dynamic Range Compression). Stupidly, Dolby's license requests that DRC must be applied, unless your decoder has an option to turn it on/off. Only then the decoder is allowed to not apply DRC. The purpose of DRC is to limit the dynamic range of an audio track, mainly to not annoy neighbours or to accommodate to noisy living room conditions. For reencoding purposes DRC is catastrophic. Most decoders apply Dialog Normalization. This feature is supposed to make sure that for all audio sources the dialog is automatically played at the same volume. Dialog Normalization is quite "unnice", although it's just a volume change, so it doesn't really destroy the audio quality.


Since eac3to relies on external decoders, AC3 audio may not pass through as 'unscaved' as one might think. Especially applied Dynamic Range Compression would be detrimental. You'd almost wish RipBot264 would use tsMuxeR to demux the audio stream, and not eac3to.

nwg
22nd November 2008, 19:19
I have never had a problem with eac3to demuxing the audio but I still prefer to use a demuxed tsmuxer audio track with ripbot. I select no audio on the analysis and then point to the demuxed ac3/dts track.

poisondeathray
22nd November 2008, 19:22
Since eac3to relies on external decoders, AC3 audio may not pass through as 'unscaved' as one might think. Especially applied Dynamic Range Compression would be detrimental. You'd almost wish RipBot264 would use tsMuxeR to demux the audio stream, and not eac3to.

Possible issues with not using eac3to with .m2ts are audio gaps, which are not corrected by using tsmuxer = sync issues.

mikelebron
22nd November 2008, 19:27
So what you guys are telling me RipBot uses eac3to which will extract, TrueHD, DTS-HD, AC3, EAC3, DTS, etc. and remux the audio stream as AC3 and ONLY AC3.. Let me ask you... what about LPCM? Does the x.xCOPYSTREAM handle this? If so how? Also.. Im using AC3 filter..how is this in comparison to nero, etc or other Filters. Recommendations?

Im asking as for me sound is everthing... I can tolerate a 80 - 90% quality on the video side but I cant accept that on the sound.

asarian
22nd November 2008, 19:37
Possible issues with not using eac3to with .m2ts are audio gaps, which are not corrected by using tsmuxer = sync issues.

Good point. :) The possible gap files; you do indeed need eac3to for that. Still, I prefer to extract my audio manually first, with eac3to, so I know exactly what happens, and then remux it back afterwards with tsMuxeR.

poisondeathray
22nd November 2008, 19:41
So what you guys are telling me RipBot uses eac3to which will extract, TrueHD, DTS-HD, AC3, EAC3, DTS, etc. and remux the audio stream as AC3 and ONLY AC3.. Let me ask you... what about LPCM? Does the x.xCOPYSTREAM handle this? If so how? Also.. Im using AC3 filter..how is this in comparison to nero, etc or other Filters. Recommendations?

Im asking as for me sound is everthing... I can tolerate a 80 - 90% quality on the video side but I cant accept that on the sound.

With eac3to you can extract the identical stream e.g. TrueHD, EAC3, etc. but I think it sometimes uses a lossless flac intermediate depending on the audio type; you are not forced only AC3 (this is when using it separately, using eac3to through ripbot will limit your options)

eg. You can force libav as the decoder instead of sonic, for example, which doesn't apply DRC for EAC3 (when sonic does)

Look into the eac3to thread for more information

poisondeathray
22nd November 2008, 19:42
Good point. :) The possible gap files; you do indeed need eac3to for that. Still, I prefer to extract my audio manually first, with eac3to, so I know exactly what happens, and then remux it back afterwards with tsMuxeR.

Yes, this is my preferred way too, with all GUIs including ripbot

asarian
22nd November 2008, 19:45
So what you guys are telling me RipBot uses eac3to which will extract, TrueHD, DTS-HD, AC3, EAC3, DTS, etc. and remux the audio stream as AC3 and ONLY AC3.. Let me ask you... what about LPCM? Does the x.xCOPYSTREAM handle this? If so how? Also.. Im using AC3 filter..how is this in comparison to nero, etc or other Filters. Recommendations?

Im asking as for me sound is everthing... I can tolerate a 80 - 90% quality on the video side but I cant accept that on the sound.

See, this is what I meant: with all these external decoders, you may really run into an unexpected DRC setting. I don't have AC3Filter myself, but this link seems to suggest DRC is 'on' by default:

http://www.otslabs.com/studio/ac3-filter.html

If so, best disable it. :)

asarian
22nd November 2008, 20:53
On a totally unrelated matter, has anyone here experience with the "--psy-rd" (psychovisual optimization) parameter? I can't decide whether I want it or not. Things get grainier, but there's more contrast, and overall sharper detail.

Ajax_Undone
22nd November 2008, 20:58
I removed it cause it made some area's too bright...

True lies: Jamie Lee's hands just about as blinding as could be... Not good on flesh tone at all...

poisondeathray
22nd November 2008, 21:04
On a totally unrelated matter, has anyone here experience with the "--psy-rd" (psychovisual optimization) parameter? I can't decide whether I want it or not. Things get grainier, but there's more contrast, and overall sharper detail.

It really depends on the type of source material, and the bitrate that you use. The same goes with AQ settings.

I've done tests where it was great, others where there was noticable ringing/artifacting. - you can alter the strength lower if you want

The case with most smooth anime (not the CGI variety with detail) it causes too much distortion

Suggestion: do some short representative test clips with different settings to find the optimal settings for your preferences.

You can also look in the psy-rd and AQ threads for examples & situations where it might help vs hinders

nwg
22nd November 2008, 21:59
What causes the error of deleting the video.mkv file after analysing it and give the error cannot find file video.mkv?

I am suddenly getting this with both verion 13 and 14 after half a dozen successful encodes. The strange thing is I have already analysed the blu ray sucessfully but had to cancel and delete the ripbot temp directory.

topsham
22nd November 2008, 22:04
I've been using this program for a while now to convert HD DVDs for playing on my PS3 and think it's great.

Having recently got an Iphone I thought I would try and convert one of my films to watch on that. I have tried the default settings for Iphone/Ipod and the conversion worked fine but disappointingly the image is very small as it is a full width letterbox with black bars top and bottom.

Can anyone suggest some settings that would use the full 480 x 320 screen of the phone cropping the image on either side? This way I would hope to get a good size and good quality image.

jamd1
22nd November 2008, 22:11
Is the information collected in pass1 "job1.stats" using ripbot, bitrate specific to the job or does it analyse the video data for any re-encode ?
For example if I re-encode a movie using ripbot at a fixed bitrate of 4000kbps (720p) and then edit the job1 settings to re-encode the same movie at 6000kbps(720p), can I then maually run only pass 2: "job1_EncodeVideoPass2.cmd" alowing it to use the previously generated "job1.stats"?
Thx for any help.

kriz6912
22nd November 2008, 22:56
I've just used RipBot264 and its very easy to use. However, I finished my first re-profile from a 6.8GB High@L5.1 MKV and ended up with a 4.1GB High@L4.0 MKV.

The thing that worries me is the rather large decrease in filesize of 2.7GB. Surely, this must have a considerable impact on quality? Is there some setting I should use in order to keep the video bit rate as high as possible?

A 2nd thing I noticed is that the subtitle stream has disappeared in the re-profiled version? Did I miss some setting for keeping subtitles? I do see a Subtitles-button but this appears to be a way for adding external subtitle files.

Ajax_Undone
22nd November 2008, 23:15
What causes the error of deleting the video.mkv file after analysing it and give the error cannot find file video.mkv?

I am suddenly getting this with both verion 13 and 14 after half a dozen successful encodes. The strange thing is I have already analysed the blu ray sucessfully but had to cancel and delete the ripbot temp directory.

??? Now I wonder what your talking about... I never heard of anything like this...

jamd1
22nd November 2008, 23:15
kriz6912 - If you want to retain same filesize - use 2-pass encode and set filesize in ripbot . Subtitles can only be added from external files with ripbot - First you need to make a .srt from your original .mkv and - then, best way with ripbot, is to build subtitles into the movie.

asarian
23rd November 2008, 00:07
kriz6912
First you need to make a .srt from your original .mkv and - then, best way with ripbot, is to build subtitles into the movie.

Indeed. I tend to do a crop/addborders combo (if the movie isn't full 1080 pixels in height, of course), should I need subtitles (for Kill Bill and such). So, say, the main movie is 'effectively' 800px in height (of a full 1080), I would add this to the avs script:

video=Crop(video, 0, 140, 0, -140)
video=AddBorders(video, 0, 48, 0, 232)

A bottom-margin of 232 (or near about) nicely positions the movie so you can have subtitles underneath it, instead of over it (which I think looks gross).

mikelebron
23rd November 2008, 00:21
Question Which mode CQ Mode or VB mode is generally better quality?

Atak_Snajpera
23rd November 2008, 00:32
Can anyone suggest some settings that would use the full 480 x 320 screen of the phone cropping the image on either side? This way I would hope to get a good size and good quality image.
use PSP size (480x272)

nwg
23rd November 2008, 00:52
??? Now I wonder what your talking about... I never heard of anything like this...

I think I have solved it but not sure what caused it. The Blu Ray is Prince Caspian. I created a Blu Ray with just AC3 audio and the original H264 video. Eac3to and Ripbot seemed to report the length as 13m 15s instead of 2.5 hours. I separated the video and AC3 and remuxed them back together. It now saids 2.5 hours in Ripbot and I now have a video.mkv at the end of analysis.

The other strange thing is Ripbot already analysed the files before without any problems.

bbyers70
23rd November 2008, 05:34
Is there any way to have chapters imported from DVD/VOB files like they are done from Blu-Ray/M2TS files? It doesnt seem to matter whether mp4 or mkv files are created on the output. There are simply no chapters from a DVD.

Donlac
23rd November 2008, 11:40
Just curious, but why does UAC need to be disabled?

kriz6912
23rd November 2008, 11:50
kriz6912 - If you want to retain same filesize - use 2-pass encode and set filesize in ripbot .

If I select 2-Pass I can choose a video bit rate between 256 Kbps and 8192 Kbps. I'm unsure what to choose here since it's not the actual file size that needs to be entered here but the video bit rate (and is this a variable bit rate or fixed ?).

I guess selecting the maximum of 8192 would yield the best quality but might increase size of the file unnecessarily. On the other hand 8192 Kbps (or 'KBPS' as stated by Ripbot but I assume it's kilobit ripbot is talking about and not kilobyte) would mean 8 mbit which then sounds very limiting for high quality blu-ray rips.

As you can see I'm somewhat confused.

CyberTron88
23rd November 2008, 12:15
I seem to have problem encoding U2 : Rattle and Hum HD-DVD.

This is found in the "video - Log.txt"

eac3to v2.77
command line: "C:\Users\yuchou\Desktop\RipBot264v1.11.4\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "C:\Users\yuchou\Desktop\rip\U2_RATTLE_AND_HUM\" 1) 3:"C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" 4:"C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac" 6:"C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitle.1.sup" 2:"C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 4 subtitle tracks, 1:38:52
"Main Movie"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 20 chapters with names
3: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: E-AC3 EX, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
5: DTS-ES, English, 6.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -4dB
6: Subtitle, English
7: Subtitle, French
8: Subtitle, Spanish
9: Subtitle, English, "SDH"
[a04] The Nero decoder doesn't seem to work, will use libav instead.
Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v03] Extracting video track number 3...
[v03] Removing h264 pulldown...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a04] Remapping channels...
[a04] Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
[a04] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
Loading white noise (needed for dithering)...
[v03] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac"...
[s06] Extracting subtitle track number 6...
Unfortunately the Haali Muxer cannot handle this source file.
It doesn't contain enough seek/recovery points.
The "-seekToIFrames" option may work around that.
However, using this option may result in artifacts when seeking.
Aborted at file position 189415424.


This is found in mkvinfo.txt

Error: The source file 'C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv' could not be opened successfully, or retrieving its size by seeking to the end did not work.

laserfan
23rd November 2008, 16:14
If I select 2-Pass I can choose a video bit rate between 256 Kbps and 8192 Kbps.... As you can see I'm somewhat confused.Those last two are fixed for when your target is DVD-5 or DVD-9 (dual-layer writeables).

rack04
23rd November 2008, 16:40
Can someone explain what "build subtitles into the movie" means? Is this similar to forced subtitles?

topsham
23rd November 2008, 17:57
use PSP size (480x272)That's much better. Thank you.

CupCak3
23rd November 2008, 18:39
I get the error in the attached image. "Directshowsource: Timeout waiting for graph to start".

I've searched and tried several fixes which have not helped.

The problem started with I upgraded to version 1.11.4. I had the "mjpg" error when starting the new version after I upgraded ffdshow. Per a post, I added "ffdshow_vfw" & the "default" key which seemed to fix that problem.

What is causing the timeout issue and how can I fix it?

Thank you.

Atak_Snajpera
23rd November 2008, 19:03
I seem to have problem encoding U2 : Rattle and Hum HD-DVD.
Send me 50 MB .evo sample to www.mediafire.com . Use this tool http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/CutFile.shtml

CyberTron88
23rd November 2008, 19:47
I've uploaded it to my server on http://www.netsingapore.com/ripbot/FEATURE_1_CUT.EVO. Thanks

nwg
23rd November 2008, 20:48
Can someone explain what "build subtitles into the movie" means? Is this similar to forced subtitles?

It is. I used it with Pans Labyrinth and the subtitles come up automatically. I am not sure if they can be turned off.

kriz6912
23rd November 2008, 22:23
If I select 2-Pass I can choose a video bit rate between 256 Kbps and 8192 Kbps.... As you can see I'm somewhat confused.

Those last two are fixed for when your target is DVD-5 or DVD-9 (dual-layer writeables).

So, what do I use when I have a 15GB MKV High@L5.1 that I want to convert to L4.0 without compromising the quality?

My best output (using 8192) will be something that fits on DVD-9. However, since I stream all my content over the network I want to retain the original 15GB MKV (and only re-profile it so that my NMT can handle it).

Atak_Snajpera
23rd November 2008, 22:25
So, what do I use when I have a 15GB MKV High@L5.1 that I want to convert to L4.0 without compromising the quality?
How did you create that .mkv?

nwg
24th November 2008, 00:03
So, what do I use when I have a 15GB MKV High@L5.1 that I want to convert to L4.0 without compromising the quality?

My best output (using 8192) will be something that fits on DVD-9. However, since I stream all my content over the network I want to retain the original 15GB MKV (and only re-profile it so that my NMT can handle it).

If 8192 is a DVD 9 and about 50% of the size of your 15GB. How about doubling the bitrate to 16384?

kriz6912
24th November 2008, 00:15
How did you create that .mkv?

I didn't create the MKV myself. Just downloaded it. The file in question that my NMT won't play (but my PC will) - I've looked up the exact details - is actually a 12GB 1080p file of Transformers using High@L5.0.

If 8192 is a DVD 9 and about 50% of the size of your 15GB. How about doubling the bitrate to 16384?

Well, 2-pass will give me a dropdown box that maxes out at 8192. So, I can't simply enter 16384.

rack04
24th November 2008, 00:20
It is. I used it with Pans Labyrinth and the subtitles come up automatically. I am not sure if they can be turned off.

What about movies like Kill Bill that have intermittent English subtitles?

asarian
24th November 2008, 01:08
What about movies like Kill Bill that have intermittent English subtitles?

'Intermittent' is only a perception, of course. An .srt file is, after all, nothing more than a plain text file with subs in them + their respective time-indices. So, an .srt for Kill Bill could only contain subs for the Japanese, and the times they occur, and still be 'on' all the time.

Ajax_Undone
24th November 2008, 01:21
I didn't create the MKV myself. Just downloaded it. The file in question that my NMT won't play (but my PC will) - I've looked up the exact details - is actually a 12GB 1080p file of Transformers using High@L5.0.



Well, 2-pass will give me a dropdown box that maxes out at 8192. So, I can't simply enter 16384.

Maybe rule 6 can help you!!!

asarian
24th November 2008, 01:32
Maybe tomorrow . I need to see if madshi will update eac3to on sunday

Madshi just did. :)

Atak_Snajpera
24th November 2008, 01:35
I didn't create the MKV myself. Just downloaded it. The file in question that my NMT won't play (but my PC will) - I've looked up the exact details - is actually a 12GB 1080p file of Transformers using High@L5.0.
Bad answer amigo! :) You won't get any help here. Good bye.

Madshi just did.
Yes I knew but it's 00:35 in Dublin. Time to bed...ZzzZzzzzZzzzzz...........

rack04
24th November 2008, 03:38
'Intermittent' is only a perception, of course. An .srt file is, after all, nothing more than a plain text file with subs in them + their respective time-indices. So, an .srt for Kill Bill could only contain subs for the Japanese, and the times they occur, and still be 'on' all the time.

So what is the process for building subtitles into the movie? What software does RipBot264 use to perform this function?

mmmmdonut
24th November 2008, 13:05
For Kill Bill you will notice there are two english subs on the disc. The second sub is the one you want. As for converting suprip is the only tool I know that does PGS subs. However I know for this particular title it had a lot of issues recognizing characters.

Best bet might be to get the subs from the dvd version.

asarian
24th November 2008, 13:28
For Kill Bill you will notice there are two english subs on the disc. The second sub is the one you want. As for converting suprip is the only tool I know that does PGS subs. However I know for this particular title it had a lot of issues recognizing characters.

Best bet might be to get the subs from the dvd version.

Yes, the DVD subs are easy to find. Be sure to get the proper movie length (!) subs for Kill Bill 2, as the Blu-ray version is extended by a few minutes (for which there is also a DVD .srt file).

prettyboy85712
24th November 2008, 13:50
Can someone explain what "build subtitles into the movie" means? Is this similar to forced subtitles?

It is when the subtitles are burned/encoded directly into the video image and are not removable.

nwg
24th November 2008, 13:59
Yes, the DVD subs are easy to find. Be sure to get the proper movie length (!) subs for Kill Bill 2, as the Blu-ray version is extended by a few minutes (for which there is also a DVD .srt file).

I wished proper Blu Ray and HD DVD ones were easier to get hold. I still find subrip a bit iffy with subs. Also, if I make a mistake during the ocr, then all the same characters get the same mistake. It also seems to remember them and apply them on different discs.

I have never got a DVD ones to work and in sync with the 24fps video. Just changing the frame rate never seems to work for me.

asarian
24th November 2008, 15:31
I wished proper Blu Ray and HD DVD ones were easier to get hold. I still find subrip a bit iffy with subs. Also, if I make a mistake during the ocr, then all the same characters get the same mistake. It also seems to remember them and apply them on different discs.

I have never got a DVD ones to work and in sync with the 24fps video. Just changing the frame rate never seems to work for me.

Yeah, I have similar questionable experiences with su(p|b)rip and OCR-ing. I once spent several hours repairing/checking the subs for Tekkon Kinkreet (for which no DVD subs were to be found). That gets tiresome real fast.

Since I primarily stream, I let RipBot264 just encode the subs right into the movie (for stuff like Pan's Labyrynth, Kill Bill, etc., where I always need them to begin with). Obviously, there's no fps issue then. :)

asarian
24th November 2008, 15:38
It is when the subtitles are burned/encoded directly into the video image and are not removable.

That's how I see it too. And I've actually never seen 'forced subtitles' on a commercial DVD, either (though I understand the principle).

My subtitle philosophy is very simple: if you can afford to turn your subtitles off, you don't need them. And if you always need them, you might as well include them in the reencoding process. :) Like I did on Vexille, for instance, the other day: it's either that, or learn Japanese. :) So, I'll take my chances just burning the subs right into the movie, Domo arigatoo!

nwg
24th November 2008, 15:56
Yeah, I have similar questionable experiences with su(p|b)rip and OCR-ing. I once spent several hours repairing/checking the subs for Tekkon Kinkreet (for which no DVD subs were to be found). That gets tiresome real fast.

Since I primarily stream, I let RipBot264 just encode the subs right into the movie (for stuff like Pan's Labyrynth, Kill Bill, etc., where I always need them to begin with). Obviously, there's no fps issue then. :)

I recently did Die Hard 4.0 and it replaced every , with a C. It took ages to sort that out.

That's how I see it too. And I've actually never seen 'forced subtitles' on a commercial DVD, either (though I understand the principle).


Forced subs on R2 DVD's are popular. They are often used for location names and translating foreign langauges which are often burned in on R1.

jamd1
24th November 2008, 21:42
If anyone needs the blu-ray .srt for the "non -english spoken only" parts of kill-bill 1 - I still have it from the one I made. Just let me know It's a very small file.

DeareN
24th November 2008, 22:21
Greetings,
I just made a movie from mkv to blu-ray format and I am getting a serius bug. I locked size to 8.150 to write it to a dvd9 and I can't write it with any burner because the media Size: 8.547.698.416 bytes and the image Size: 8.548.581.376 bytes. This happens for the first time with ripbot. Is there a way to at least cut something from the bluray folder in order to burn the disc? Any help plz!!

rack04
24th November 2008, 22:48
If anyone needs the blu-ray .srt for the "non -english spoken only" parts of kill-bill 1 - I still have it from the one I made. Just let me know It's a very small file.

I'd love it. Thanks.

BTW, are these "non -english spoken only" parts a seperate subtitle or did you have to filter through the sub and delete all the english spoken parts?

asarian
24th November 2008, 23:17
Greetings,
I just made a movie from mkv to blu-ray format and I am getting a serius bug. I locked size to 8.150 to write it to a dvd9 and I can't write it with any burner because the media Size: 8.547.698.416 bytes and the image Size: 8.548.581.376 bytes. This happens for the first time with ripbot. Is there a way to at least cut something from the bluray folder in order to burn the disc? Any help plz!!

You can't really cut something from the Blu=Ray structure, as there's no bonus material to cut or blank. Your best bet, I think, is to have a look at the audio-track. Is it DTS-HD or some such? Or even plain DTS? You might then wanna downgrade to AC3 to shave off what you need. Or, if it's AC3 already, downsample to 448Kpbs instead if 640Kbps. None of which is a particularly attractive option, really. And, if I were you, I'd just reencode the original material (not from the .mkv to start with) and set a somewhat smaller size.

Adub
24th November 2008, 23:25
BTW, are these "non -english spoken only" parts a seperate subtitle or did you have to filter through the sub and delete all the english spoken parts?

Usually they are a separate subtitle.

nwg
24th November 2008, 23:45
I asked a while ago why we couldn't have one pass and get exact single layer dvd size. I was told that 2 passes is needed. However, just before the second pass starts, the created 1 pass H264 is the right size. So why cannot that be used? Is there something different about the file over a standard H264 file?

anon.j2
24th November 2008, 23:53
Two small things:


Found some reference to pausing other programs http://www.codeproject.com/KB/threads/pausep.aspx -- might help make a pause button for ripbot
It might just be me, but checkboxes next to jobs in the jobs list would be nice. For example: I put 5 jobs in the queue, they're all checked I start encoding I come back some time later and see that there's a little bit of time left for job #2 to finish I uncheck jobs 3, 4, and 5 When job 2 finishes, RipBot falls through and doesn't try encoding the rest of the jobs At this point I can use my computer again

I'm trying to find a way to manage when I can/can't use my computer because ripbot is encoding. Sometimes just letting it go overnight isn't long enough :)

DeareN
25th November 2008, 00:19
Thanks asarian, I will keep that in mind. Is there a way to reduce only the audio quality and do nothing to the video using ripbot? If only there was a way to cut a teeny tiny part of m2ts file... another movie did that bug again just now, the third that i made after the first two was fine. Unfortunately I can't do the process from the beginning, I don't have much patience left to keep my computer buzy for 2 more days. From now on I will lock the size first and then I will reduce the kbs a little more.

asarian
25th November 2008, 00:31
Thanks asarian, I will keep that in mind. Is there a way to reduce only the audio quality and do nothing to the video using ripbot?
I'd say, just get eac3to, if you don't have it already, and extract the audio, like so:

eac3to 0000.m2ts 2: newaudio.ac3 -448

Assuming 2: is the audio track, of course. Then remux the new audio back in with tsMuxeR.

EDIT: eac3to is also in RipBot's 'Tools' directory, btw.

Atak_Snajpera
25th November 2008, 00:34
Greetings,
I just made a movie from mkv to blu-ray format and I am getting a serius bug. I locked size to 8.150 to write it to a dvd9 and I can't write it with any burner because the media Size: 8.547.698.416 bytes and the image Size: 8.548.581.376 bytes. This happens for the first time with ripbot. Is there a way to at least cut something from the bluray folder in order to burn the disc? Any help plz!!
Probably you use ISO+joilet but you must use UDF only !!!!

DeareN
25th November 2008, 00:38
thank you for the quick answer. I don't have much knowledge so let me get this straight.
1)Open eac3to and make the new audio file
2)open tsmuxer and do what? I only know to remux a whole movie, and I dont know how to tell tsmuxer to dont do anything with the video and subtitles. I lost it here, sorry. If you can be a little more specific I would appreciate it very much.

Hello atak, no I use imageburn with UDF 2.5 but I also get it in nero when I use udf 2.5 . If I use an older one like 2.01 it will reduce the size a little and it will be compatible?
I made a lot of movies with ripbot and they are excellent, it only happened in these 2.
Thankz

Atak_Snajpera
25th November 2008, 00:41
thank you for the quick answer. I don't have much knowledge so let me get this straight.
1)Open eac3to and make the new audio file
2)open tsmuxer and do what? I only know to remux a whole movie, and I dont know how to tell tsmuxer to dont do anything with the video and subtitles. I lost it here, sorry. If you can be a little more specific I would appreciate it very much.
When you burn your file you must select UDF 2.50 file system!!! ISO+joilet is always larger therefore it won't fit!!!

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8076/new1hm7.th.png (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1hm7.png)http://img511.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

asarian
25th November 2008, 00:47
thank you for the quick answer. I don't have much knowledge so let me get this straight.
1)Open eac3to and make the new audio file
2)open tsmuxer and do what? I only know to remux a whole movie, and I dont know how to tell tsmuxer to dont do anything with the video and subtitles. I lost it here, sorry. If you can be a little more specific I would appreciate it very much.

Well, first make sure it isn't the UDF issue, as Atak suggested. :)

As for tsMuxeR, there's hardly an easier program. :) Just start up tsMuxerGUI, which comes in the zip, at:

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.8(b).zip

Then just click the 'Add' button on the top-right corner, and simply deselect your audio stream. Then, click 'Add' again to include your new audio. Then set 'Output' (below) to 'm2ts muxing', choose a new file name, and presto, you're done. :)

DeareN
25th November 2008, 00:50
When you burn your file you must select UDF 2.50 file system!!! ISO+joilet is always larger therefore it won't fit!!!

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8076/new1hm7.th.png (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1hm7.png)http://img511.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

I always do that Atak. And also I saw that imageburn keeps my file system saved everytime I open it. I only use udf 2.5
I really dont know what I am doing wrong...

Atak_Snajpera
25th November 2008, 00:53
I really dont know what I am doing wrong...
I need length of the movie in seconds and audio bitrate. Did you add subtitles?

asarian
25th November 2008, 00:53
Hello atak, no I use imageburn with UDF 2.5 but I also get it in nero when I use udf 2.5 . If I use an older one like 2.01 it will reduce the size a little and it will be compatible?

I haven't tested it, but I doubt it. Blu-Ray is specified to use UDF 2.50 (2.60 for HD-DVD). So I doubt just using 2.01 will work.

DeareN
25th November 2008, 01:03
Yeap I added subtitles, greek btw. Thankz for the quick response, I made 7 playable movies with ripbot.I use the 1.11 version cause the 1.11.4 made the common problem with directsource and I didnt want to bother you. I also have the problem in 1.11 with the first couple of minutes as they trempling.
Here are the length and bitrate
1) 1:36:46 audio AC3, I think 640kps
2) 3:44:00 audio: DTS

For the second movie I get it but for the first one I dont. Also the sizes are tiny bigger to fit in the disc.
Thanks again

asarian
25th November 2008, 01:11
Here are the length and bitrate
1) 1:36:46 audio AC3, I think 640kps
2) 3:44:00 audio: DTS

Why, if you have a DTS track already, why not just ditch the AC3 stream, then??

And, btw, what's with the DTS being almost 4 hours?? Something must be wrong.

EDIT: Btw, it's always wise to minimize your audio tracks, of course, when you're cramped for space (which you always are, of course, when trying to fit BD stuff onto a DVD9). So, before you encode, I would remove the AC3 or DTS track first (whichever suits your audio needs), and only then reencode, so as to leave more room for the movie.

Chug a Bug
25th November 2008, 01:16
I did some testing on both my PC's (one contains the registry key ffdshow_vfw and the other doesn't).

It seems that after you run the ffdshow installer and if you choose not to run the VFW configuratator during the last step of the ffdshow installation, then ffdshow_vfw is not setup automatically. After I ran the VFW configurator, everything under ffdshow_vfw became populated.

So before RipBot264 inserts the mjpg value into the registry, it should check for the existence of the key ffdshow_vfw, if it doesn't exist, create one first.

I can confirm this as I had this same problem, I couldn't figure out how to hack the registry so I just re-installed ffdshow and made sure I ran the configurator, and bingo RipBot works fine now.

Nice tool thanks.

DeareN
25th November 2008, 01:18
Why, if you have a DTS track already, why not just ditch the AC3 stream, then??

And, btw, what's with the DTS being almost 4 hours??

For the second movie:
I will try to use your method to make the DTS into AC3 and then remux them with TSmuxer.

For the first one I will downgrade ac3 to lower bitrate.
I can't wait for the version 1.11.5 btw.
Thanks

CupCak3
25th November 2008, 01:53
I get the error in the attached image. "Directshowsource: Timeout waiting for graph to start".

I've searched and tried several fixes which have not helped.

The problem started with I upgraded to version 1.11.4. I had the "mjpg" error when starting the new version after I upgraded ffdshow. Per a post, I added "ffdshow_vfw" & the "default" key which seemed to fix that problem.

What is causing the timeout issue and how can I fix it?

Thank you.

Can anyone help me w/ this?

A little more info... I'm using windows xp pro. Windows Media Player Classic opens & the ffdshow video icon and the haali icon come up in the system tray. WMPC says "opening..." for ~60 sec and then closes. Again today I reinstalled the newest version of ripbot and also ffdshow.

Thanks.

asarian
25th November 2008, 02:14
Can anyone help me w/ this?

A little more info... I'm using windows xp pro. Windows Media Player Classic opens & the ffdshow video icon and the haali icon come up in the system tray. WMPC says "opening..." for ~60 sec and then closes. Again today I reinstalled the newest version of ripbot and also ffdshow.


Did you try Ajax's installer? That also installs a new haali media splitter, which solved an odd issue for me. Might give it a try.

CupCak3
25th November 2008, 04:44
Did you try Ajax's installer? That also installs a new haali media splitter, which solved an odd issue for me. Might give it a try.

Thanks for the tip, but still the same problem :(

Here's a copy of the getinfo.avs file that fails. (WMPC says it failes on line two) The first line of the file is blank.



video=DirectShowSource("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv",audio=false).ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\RipBot264\tools\AviSynth plugins\NicAudio\NicAudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.dts")
AudioDub(video,audio)
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Framecount")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Framerate")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioRate")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioChannels")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioLength")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Width")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Height ")
Trim(0,-1)

DYZ
25th November 2008, 11:52
ive a question to another issue: subtitles

im searching a tool which lets me read the subtitles and perhaps edit them.

i tried already "subtitle workshop" -> crap! "ccextractor" -> crap,too....

anyone good advises?

thx

ankurs
25th November 2008, 12:27
subrip

jamd1
25th November 2008, 12:48
Kill bill 1 bluray srt attached - made from the non - english spoken sup. - Yes there is a sup with just these parts - original bluray shows them in yellow - these are a bit clearer in the default white.

DYZ
25th November 2008, 12:53
subrip

thanks for your advise, but i couldn make subrip handle bluray subtitles...

through a mistake on entering "subrip" i found "suprip" which is eaxactly what i needed... :D


heres the file: http://exar.ch/suprip/suprip-1.01.rar

Bigmango
25th November 2008, 13:51
Atak, what is the m2ts muxing overhead for DTS audio ?

Because today I need to make a backup with 2 DTS audio tracks, ripbot output will be "create blu-ray". So I think I will do the backup with 1 audio track and then once it's done I will remux the 00001.m2ts with tsmuxer to add the 2nd DTS track.

But for this to work I need to set the video bitrate manually so that it will still fit the DVD9 after I add the 2nd track.

So, how much (%?) do I have to add to the 2nd DTS track file size for overhead. Or is there a better way to do this?

(also, will ripbot support 2 audio tracks in the future?)

And finally, will my 2 audio tracks work properly with the ripbot blu-ray structure, or do the index files need to be edited in some way to support the 2nd audio track?

:thanks:

Atak_Snajpera
25th November 2008, 13:58
So, how much (%?) do I have to add to the 2nd DTS track file size for overhead. Or is there a better way to do this?
I have no idea. My calculation formula is only for one audio stream.

And finally, will my 2 audio tracks work properly with the ripbot blu-ray structure, or do the index files need to be edited in some way to support the 2nd audio track?
yes it should work.

Atak_Snajpera
25th November 2008, 14:19
Fixed: calculation formula for Blu-Ray structure with subtitles
Whoever had problems with oversized blu-ray structure with subtitles please report your results with v1.11.5. What sizes do you get now?

juGGaKNot
25th November 2008, 14:27
v1.11.5

Update the thread name :P

nwg
25th November 2008, 16:37
Thanks for the new version. I should have my last encode completed soon and will go straight on using the new one. I have done several with subtitles and they all fit fine. I tend to use a custom total of 4450MB.

I think there is a new eac3to as well.

Bigmango
25th November 2008, 18:58
There is a bug with the new version 1.11.5. When I start it I get a screen that tells me it needs UAC to be switched off. I have also tried to run it with admin privileges, it doesn't work. Using vista x64.

CyberTron88
25th November 2008, 19:01
Will 1.11.5 work with the U2 hd dvd?

I'm not sure if this is a bug...

If i set it not to auto start anydvd, i thought it should not try to stop anydvd when ripbot is closed even if it is running?

I usually rip the files from my blu ray / hd dvd to my harddisk first, and then encode in batch with ripbot.

Sometimes I have ripbot do the initial steam extraction, while I have another anydvd process to rip to my harddisk. When i close my ripbot accidentally, it will stop my anydvd.

deets
25th November 2008, 19:08
http://delivery-11.vipeers.com/file_sharing?message_hash=683434394c694c58455553474242334543576f784e673d3d&locale=en

a faster download link

Atak_Snajpera
25th November 2008, 19:12
There is a bug with the new version 1.11.5. When I start it I get a screen that tells me it needs UAC to be switched off.
And what is your problem? Can't you read?

I'm not sure if this is a bug...
Will see

Will 1.11.5 work with the U2 hd dvd?
That sample which you gave me worked

Bigmango
25th November 2008, 20:11
And what is your problem? Can't you read?


So this is expected? I am sorry to tell you but this is some VERY BAD programming practice.

I return you your question : - what is your problem?

Are you seriously expecting the several millions of vista users to disable a system wide OS security feature only for your application?

UAC is one of the few good things Microsoft has somewhat copied from the unix world and its is something I, as well as thousands of vista users, use every day.

I am sure you know how to code properly, so what is the problem. Is it delphi that doesn't allow to code properly or some other problem?

Ripbot has always worked fine until today, why is it suddenly behaving so badly?

Atak_Snajpera
25th November 2008, 20:28
So this is expected? I am sorry to tell you but this is some VERY BAD programming practice.

I return you your question : - what is your problem?

Are you seriously expecting the several millions of vista users to disable a system wide OS security feature only for your application?

UAC is one of the few good things Microsoft has somewhat copied from the unix world and its is something I, as well as thousands of vista users, use every day.

I am sure you know how to code properly, so what is the problem. Is it delphi that doesn't allow to code properly or some other problem?

I have news for you. Microsoft has decided to remove UAC from Windows 7 :) UAC has nothing to do with security. It is another annoying pop-up window. Besides This app is free of charge so I don't care if you don't agree with me. You will do whatever you want. You have so many alternatives these days. Personally I HATE UAC (I don't use UAC from the day one!). I HATE when windows always hides file extensions by default. I HATE indexing . I HATE prefetch . I HATE ...

Qwakrz
25th November 2008, 21:18
Ok, i'll start with a massive thank you for this program. It makes my life so much easier to transcode all my HD-DVD files to H264 / AC3 Blu-Ray compliant clips to use on my HTPC without a HD drive. I can also get some very reasonable low bitrate 1080P transcodes (4.7GB with good sound and video, well, good enough for everyday use).

But (there always has to be one), whenever I exit the program I find AnyDVD always closes with it (which is annoying when used on my media server), can this be changed so that it is not closed (or at least an option).

And with regards to subtitles. I have Close Encounters of the Third Kind special edition on Blu-Ray, this uses part of the normal subtitles to overlay subs during the foreign language bit at the start of the movie. There are no separate subtitle tracks just for this bit so I am going to have to go through the movie looking for subtitles that need to be kept and blanking the others.

But, as I said, Thank you for this lovely program.

Fishman0919
25th November 2008, 21:23
Yes, and a Thank You from me too.... :)

ron spencer
25th November 2008, 21:28
thanks from me as well....oh yah, flash for Vista users...Vista sucks....what a horrible OS. Glad Microsoft is gutting it...kinda reminds me of ME in a way. 7 will be better

Ajax_Undone
26th November 2008, 00:04
Well that one opinion... Been running Vista x64 since conception. Not one problem.
I am a Microsoft partner and have seen Windows 7 and yes they are slimming it down.
But they are using the same UI as Vista and many controls are very dumbed down...

CupCak3
26th November 2008, 00:11
Can anyone help me w/ this?

A little more info... I'm using windows xp pro. Windows Media Player Classic opens & the ffdshow video icon and the haali icon come up in the system tray. WMPC says "opening..." for ~60 sec and then closes. Again today I reinstalled the newest version of ripbot and also ffdshow.

Thanks.

I just upgraded to 1.11.5 and still the same problem!

Some more info...

Here is a list of the files that are in the temp directory when the getinfo.avs fails in windows media player classic.

audio.1.dts
Blu-Ray_ExtractStreams.cmd
Blu-Ray_structure_getinfo.cmd
Blu-Ray_structure_info.txt
Blu-Ray_title_getinfo.cmd
Blu-Ray_title_info.txt
chapters.txt
getinfo.avs
job1.avs
mkvinfo.txt
subtitle.1.sup
video - Log.txt
video.mkv


Please help! This is driving me crazy!

Atak_Snajpera
26th November 2008, 00:24
Does it happen with all files? What does mpc say? Show me video - log.txt

CupCak3
26th November 2008, 00:41
I only have one disk to try it on at the moment but I was able to do it successfully before (I wanted to try some different encoding options)

Here's a link to my MPC screenshot: http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1216233&postcount=3137

video - log.txt
eac3to v2.78
command line: "C:\RipBot264v1.10.5\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "D:\Earth Biography D1\EARTH_BIOGRAPHY_D1_US\" 2) 2:"E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" 3:"E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.dts" -core 4:"E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitle.1.sup" 1:"E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1 subtitle track, 0:45:27
1: Chapters, 7 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080i60 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Hi-Res, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
4: Subtitle (PGS), English
Creating file "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[s04] Extracting subtitle track number 4...
[a03] Extracting DTS core...
[a03] Patching bitdepth to 24 bits...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Creating file "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.dts"...
[s04] Creating file "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitle.1.sup"...
[a03] The last DTS frame is incomplete and thus gets skipped.
Added fps value to MKV header.
Video track 2 contains 81727 frames.
eac3to processing took 4 minutes, 55 seconds.
Done.

Here's a copy of getinfo.avs (when opening with notepad, the first line is blank)



video=DirectShowSource("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv",audio=false).ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\RipBot264v1.10.5\tools\AviSynth plugins\NicAudio\NicAudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.dts")
AudioDub(video,audio)
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Framecount")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Framerate")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioRate")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioChannels")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioLength")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Width")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Height ")
Trim(0,-1)


Thanks!

Atak_Snajpera
26th November 2008, 00:45
Try to create 50 MB sample from video.mkv. Use mmg.exe from /Tools/MKVToolnix. Send sample to www.mediafire.com

CupCak3
26th November 2008, 01:37
Here ya go.



Thanks!

Atak_Snajpera
26th November 2008, 02:22
go to FFDShow Video decoder configuration -> codecs -> in section VC-1 change to wmv9. if wmv9 does not exists install WMP11

CupCak3
26th November 2008, 04:05
go to FFDShow Video decoder configuration -> codecs -> in section VC-1 change to wmv9. if wmv9 does not exists install WMP11

That worked! Thanks alot for your help!

Now for dumb question, why does wmv9 work and not the libavcodec?

Thanks again!

asarian
26th November 2008, 04:24
That worked! Thanks alot for your help!

Now for dumb question, why does wmv9 work and not the libavcodec?

And now for an even dumber question, earlier I heard Atak say to use libavcodec, instead of wmv9, because the former is faster. So, what gives? :)

Ajax_Undone
26th November 2008, 06:08
So this is expected? I am sorry to tell you but this is some VERY BAD programming practice.

I return you your question : - what is your problem?

Are you seriously expecting the several millions of vista users to disable a system wide OS security feature only for your application?

UAC is one of the few good things Microsoft has somewhat copied from the unix world and its is something I, as well as thousands of vista users, use every day.

I am sure you know how to code properly, so what is the problem. Is it delphi that doesn't allow to code properly or some other problem?

Ripbot has always worked fine until today, why is it suddenly behaving so badly?


Yeah UAC is gone in the next windows and that just been an annoying software glitch that they have seen the error of there ways and deleted...

You know the Mojave project where they sat down a bunch of people to test Vista they had UAC disabled later that day a small percentage of people were allowed to use it with UAC and it tanked at the very best...


Yeah many people don't like windows crapping out programs they love to use...

UAC reminds me of a virus I got about 3 years ago from a friend... It would put up a little dialog box that said NO! when ever I tried to run anything I could browse folders but couldn't start anything... UAC is the same way in my book and I will never condone using it...

shades
26th November 2008, 06:11
I don't suppose it would be possible to add in language selection when doing a re-code on a .mkv file? I want to keep the original DTS in an English file but all I get is Spanish.

Ajax_Undone
26th November 2008, 06:16
All the audio files are demuxed when a stream is loaded just browse with the audio browser the same way you did when you selected the video and select a different Audio file from the temp folder...

asarian
26th November 2008, 08:00
UAC reminds me of a virus I got about 3 years ago from a friend... It would put up a little dialog box that said NO! when ever I tried to run anything I could browse folders but couldn't start anything... UAC is the same way in my book and I will never condone using it...

The rationale behind UAC really isn't all that bad. It's akin to having to 'su' in UNIX to add packages that need to install libraries and such. Any half-way decent UNIX System Adminstrator can tell you that doing everything as root is simply very bad practice. Where UAC went awry, however, is that Microsoft built it with the specific purpose of annoying its user base. :) No, I kid you not -- they even admitted it openly. The idea behind that rather warped thinking was, that users would get so pissed off by UAC popups, that software writers would be forced to write better software (read: software that finds a way around the 'lazy' route of doing stuff which needs admin access all the time, even when not strictly needed for the task). Problem, for one, is that you even need admin rights to write to \Program Files\, which in day-to-day life just means you need them always. :)

Still, the idea behind it really wasn't all that bad.

Atak_Snajpera
26th November 2008, 08:11
Now for dumb question, why does wmv9 work and not the libavcodec?
wmv9 is Microsoft's VC-1 implementation. libavcodec is open source created by community. First is more stable but later is faster and unfortunatelly in this case less stable.

Still, the idea behind it really wasn't all that bad.
If I use Aministrator account I want full access without shity pop-up windows. If you want secure environment use limited User Account.

Denner
26th November 2008, 08:19
If I encode a 1080p file using the CQ mode ( using CRF 18 or 20 ) will the output still be profile 4.0 and will the maximum bitrate still be held under 25000kbps ?

The reason I am asking is that I am encoding for my Tvix 6500 and it has a problem wit to high bitrates in MKV's.

asarian
26th November 2008, 08:24
If I use Aministrator account I want full access without shity pop-up windows. If you want secure environment use limited User Account.

Well, that's another thing that went wrong with UAC: Administrator accounts should not be bothered by anything, like the root user.

DIVX2009
26th November 2008, 17:02
Hi Atak,
I have many hd-dvd 1280x1080, 1440x1080 16/9 and i convert a avchd or a mkv in same rezolution, but.... the final movie is not 16/9 ????
TKS.!

over-killer
26th November 2008, 17:59
@Atak

Would there be a way to get ripbot to hard encode subtitles into the blurays?

Thank you

nwg
26th November 2008, 18:21
I have a question on subs as well.

If I have a Blu Ray such as Kill Bill with forced subs for short bits of the film. I can build them in the picture to make them come up. This works great however, what if I add a second subtitle for the whole film. What happens when it gets to the same short bits? Does it put two subtitles over the top of each other. Am I better of just adding the two subtitles and select them manually each time?

Adub
26th November 2008, 21:59
Right now there is very limited support for Blu-ray subtitles. Then only way to render them effectively is to use an OCR program to rip them to SRT and then overlay that file onto your encode. However, the OCR programs that support Blu-ray are far from perfect at this point in time. Thus, they are not ready to be added into the RipBot processing chain quite yet, as they are not fully automated. If you would be willing to OCR the subtitle yourself, then yes, you could overlay subtitles into your Blu-ray encodes.

Atak_Snajpera
26th November 2008, 22:02
1440x1080 16/9 and i convert a avchd or a mkv in same rezolution, but.... the final movie is not 16/9 ????
I'm not big fan of anamorphic resolutions therefore you have two options: Resize to 1920x1080 or 1280x720. You choose.

Would there be a way to get ripbot to hard encode subtitles into the blurays?
properties -> subtitles -> build in picture

If I encode a 1080p file using the CQ mode ( using CRF 18 or 20 ) will the output still be profile 4.0 and will the maximum bitrate still be held under 25000kbps ?
don't go above 20!

asarian
27th November 2008, 00:05
If I encode a 1080p file using the CQ mode ( using CRF 18 or 20 ) will the output still be profile 4.0 and will the maximum bitrate still be held under 25000kbps ?


don't go above 20!
Please, clarify. Are you saying the bitrate will go over 25Mb/s at CQ > 20? Or are you simply stating that CQ > 20 is not a good idea in general?

Atak_Snajpera
27th November 2008, 00:24
Please, clarify. Are you saying the bitrate will go over 25Mb/s at CQ > 20? Or are you simply stating that CQ > 20 is not a good idea in general?
if movie has 16:9 aspect ratio (no black bars) it will go above 25 Mbps very easly with 18 and probably with 20 as well. That's why I recommend default 22 value.

mikelebron
27th November 2008, 00:31
Can you explain exactly CQ mode is and the significance of the value? 22 is better then 18???

if movie has 16:9 aspect ratio (no black bars) it will go above 25 Mbps very easly with 18 and probably with 20 as well. That's why I recommend default 22 value.

Atak_Snajpera
27th November 2008, 00:37
lower value means higher quality and higher bitrate/file size
higher value means lower quality and lower bitrate/file size

In my opinion everything below 22 is insane.

asarian
27th November 2008, 00:44
if movie has 16:9 aspect ratio (no black bars) it will go above 25 Mbps very easly with 18 and probably with 20 as well. That's why I recommend default 22 value.

Then what is --vbv-maxrate for, if the max is pretty much ignored? I encode at 16, even (in earnest, 18 would probably do, too). But honestly, this has me a worried a bit. L4.0 is, by specification, not to go above 25Mb/s, which means you break the specifications by allowing bitrates to go over 25Mb/s. And the whole reason to downgrade to L4.0 was to be more compatible, right?

Seriously, if bitrates truly easily go over 25Mb/s on L4.0, by CQ <= 20, then I think you're better off just reverting to L4.1, because at least then you're staying (almost guaranteed) nicely under the 50Mb/s specification.

Atak_Snajpera
27th November 2008, 00:53
CRF was not designed for --vbv-maxrate. You should use 2-pass instead. It was explained many times by x264 developers!

I encode at 16, even (in earnest, 18 would probably do, too).
16 (?!?!?!!?!??!) Whyyyyyyyyyyy..... Insaneeeeeeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :)

asarian
27th November 2008, 01:38
CRF was not designed for --vbv-maxrate. You should use 2-pass instead. It was explained many times by x264 developers!


That's true, of course: vbv-maxrate has no meaning with CRF. Nevertheless, "[ level 4.0 ] HD . BluRay . Consoles" is default set to DefaultEncodingMode=CQ/22, not 2-Pass. CRF is very polular, though.


16 (?!?!?!!?!??!) Whyyyyyyyyyyy..... Insaneeeeeeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :)


To quote the x264 author:

"Recommendation: The range 18-26 is probably where you will want to look at. If you need absolutely perfect quality you could go down to 16, but it's probably not worth it. Around 19-21.5 is where a rip will look very good. Higher res encoding can generally get away with higher crf values."

People re-encode for different reasons. I, because my PS3 can't handle VC-1 (except in a WMV container with 2.0 sound), so I'm not interested in losing any detail, and want that absolutely perfect quality. Others may just be in it for making AVCHD's and such.

There's no such thing as consensus on the net, of course, but I believe a CRF value of 18 is generally considered "near lossless". So, if the only reason to use CRF=22 is to avoid going over 25Mbs, I dunno, then if you really don't want to go back to L4.1, maybe a 2-pass high profile is in order, so as to guarantee L4.0 users stay within specifications?

shades
27th November 2008, 03:18
All the audio files are demuxed when a stream is loaded just browse with the audio browser the same way you did when you selected the video and select a different Audio file from the temp folder...

This doesn't work because the Audio is a multi track file and has multiple languages inside the DTS file. So, there is only one file/stream and English could be set as 4th track in the stream but RipBot only selects the first track :(

Pretty please, can a track selection option be added??

mikelebron
27th November 2008, 06:08
This is all new to me so please dont mind if I ask some more details..

I see the discussion around the profile being 4.0 or 4.1, etc. Does this have an effect on the CQ mode OR is the profile just meta data for compatibility?

Can you point me in the right direction to learn more about the settings?

lower value means higher quality and higher bitrate/file size
higher value means lower quality and lower bitrate/file size

In my opinion everything below 22 is insane.

over-killer
27th November 2008, 06:48
properties -> subtitles -> build in picture

Thank you

asarian
27th November 2008, 07:34
I see the discussion around the profile being 4.0 or 4.1, etc. Does this have an effect on the CQ mode OR is the profile just meta data for compatibility?

Setting a higher CRF, like 22, will probably keep the bitrate under 25Mb/s. I say 'probably', because, as Atak said himself, --vbv-maxrate has no meaning with CRF. A lower value, however, like 18, is almost certainly to go over the specification bitrate limit for L4.0. And I honestly can't say I find that a comforting thought. Downgrading to L4.0, in order to stay compatible with older devices, at the cost of easily risking transgressing the specified bitrate limit for said lower level (unless you're willing to stay at CRF >= 22), that logic just seems to clash somehow. Atak, it almost feels like you're clinging to the downgrade to L4.0 against your better judgement. :)

Now, it's no chip of my block, really, as I can just create a 4.1 level profile myself and be done with it. Which I did, of course. But, in terms of compatibility, the notion that you can easily overshoot the bitrate limit for L4.0 is something I find a bit worrisome. I mean, what if my PS3, at the next firmware upgrade, suddenly decided to adhere to standards a little stricter, and whips out one of its infamous 'data corrupt' messages when you try to play a file with a bitrate too high for that level? Chances of that occurring are slim, I reckon; but overall, why not just stay within specifications? And you can, if your CRF >= 22. But maybe a comment line could be added then to the 4.0 Bluray Profile, stating that going with a lower CRF will likely cause operation outside specifications for a L4.0 level (or, if you wanted to go fancy, RipBot264 itself could forcibly set the lowest safe value when what the user chose is considered too low). All-in-all, for a high Blu-ray Profile using a low CRF, L4.1 would still be my first choice.


Can you point me in the right direction to learn more about the settings?

You could always have a look at this:

http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings

asarian
27th November 2008, 09:33
Hmm, my Profile clearly says: "--me tesa" (transformed exhaustive); yet in EncodeVideoPass1.cmd I suddenly see it reverted to "--me esa". Why is that?

binhex
27th November 2008, 12:25
hi atak_snajpera, i would just like to say thanks for your app, ive been using now for over 2 months and its rock solid and produces really good results!. i do have one request though, would it be possible to define the default audio bitrate in the ini file as i have to remember to set it from 128 to 192kbps every time i add a video.

also i don't know how many people are doing this but my usage of your app is to shrink down the size of 1080p material to a more palatable 2GB file size, works a treat and the quality is normally pretty much unchanged!.

paul.

Atak_Snajpera
27th November 2008, 21:59
also i don't know how many people are doing this but my usage of your app is to shrink down the size of 1080p material to a more palatable 2GB file size, works a treat and the quality is normally pretty much unchanged!.

1080p shrank to 2GB ?!?!!? Full movie ????

Hmm, my Profile clearly says: "--me tesa" (transformed exhaustive); yet in EncodeVideoPass1.cmd I suddenly see it reverted to "--me esa". Why is that?
because commands and positions are hardcoded . BTW. even esa is extremally insane (ask developers if you don't believe me) and you use even more insane tesa?

binhex
28th November 2008, 10:27
1080p shrank to 2GB ?!?!!? Full movie ????


i know it sounds like the results will be bad but seriously the quality and results are very good, basically the reason im doing this it to reduce down 8GB 1080p material. im using the 2-pass method, it takes a while but hey i think its worth it :-).

Atak_Snajpera
28th November 2008, 10:53
You are loosing alot of fine details! Don't be fooled! Compare original with encoded and guarantee you will be shocked how bad it looks like. 1080p requires a least DVD-DL!

binhex
28th November 2008, 10:59
You are loosing alot of fine details! Don't be fooled! Compare original with encoded and guarantee you will be shocked how bad it looks like. 1080p requires a least DVD-DL!

i will take a look tonight and see how much detail i am loosing, to be honest even if im loosing some of the fine detail im still getting results which far surpass a dvdrip for the same file size, which for me is what im after, buying dvd-dl disks or having 8gb files hanging around on my hard drive is a no goer for me :-), thanks for the info!.

paul.

asarian
28th November 2008, 12:45
i will take a look tonight and see how much detail i am loosing, to be honest even if im loosing some of the fine detail im still getting results which far surpass a dvdrip for the same file size, which for me is what im after, buying dvd-dl disks or having 8gb files hanging around on my hard drive is a no goer for me :-), thanks for the info!.

Well, we see two ends of the spectrum here: me, going for 'insane' high quality vs. you going for insane low quality. :) Seriously, though, 2G files are waaaaaaaay to small for 1080P content. I also don't quite get you rationale: if you think DVD'9's are too expensive, surely DVD5 (4.7G) are dirt-cheap. So, for all that's holy and decent, at least burn 4G files. :)

binhex
28th November 2008, 12:51
Well, we see two ends of the spectrum here: me, going for 'insane' high quality vs. you going for insane low quality. :) Seriously, though, 2G files are waaaaaaaay to small for 1080P content. I also don't quite get you rationale: if you think DVD'9's are too expensive, surely DVD5 (4.7G) are dirt-cheap. So, for all that's holy and decent, at least burn 4G files. :)

hehe, ok ok, i will think about it, it all depends on how good your eyeballs are too i guess :-). im doing a rip at the mo so will take a look at the results when i get home, thanks for the feedback guys.

Atak_Snajpera
28th November 2008, 13:02
Personally I use DVD-SL (4480MB) and resize 1080 to 720. You would be surprised how small difference is between those two in terms of quality. I will try to show you few examples later.

nwg
28th November 2008, 13:10
I have done one blu ray at 1080p down to 4450 and it is amazing quality. I wanted to display the results back in 1080p/24. The reason I won't do it anymore is it takes 48 hours to do on my setup. With 720p, I can do it in about 30 hours.

~bT~
28th November 2008, 17:53
SD.PSP profile doesnt have any bufsize or maxrate

--level 3.0 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,p4x4, --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

would this be correct?

--level 3.0 --vbv-bufsize 10000 --vbv-maxrate 10000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,p4x4, --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

Atak_Snajpera
28th November 2008, 18:23
SD.PSP profile doesnt have any bufsize or maxrate
PSP is able to play video even at 25 MBps :) So I see no reason to change anything in profile.

~bT~
28th November 2008, 18:45
^ i did a few crf-22 encodes and they were stuttering.. on my PC (Q6600). It doesn't happen when i play 1080p BD.

EDIT: source was VC1 1080p @ 29.970fps 8000kbps

Atak_Snajpera
28th November 2008, 19:44
Do I always have to remind you about samples?

~bT~
28th November 2008, 19:46
Do I always have to remind you about samples?

u have that sample :)

anyway, it doesn't matter that much, i will just edit the profile myself.

Atak_Snajpera
28th November 2008, 19:48
What? Where? When? ...........:confused::confused::confused::confused:

jamd1
28th November 2008, 21:36
Personally I use DVD-SL (4480MB) and resize 1080 to 720. You would be surprised how small difference is between those two in terms of quality. I will try to show you few examples later.


I agree - any movie under 2 hours produces great 720p results for a dvd5. I always use 2 pass 4480 fixed size, keeping orinal audio where possible - As long as video bitrate is > 4000.
If the movie has selective forced subtitles -( i.e. for non English spoken parts, mixed into the full English .sup file.)
Then I will encode to 1080 on a dvd9 - This is the only way I have found that allows you to use the original .sup without corruption and properly plays the subtitle only when non- English is spoken. ( manually picking out and converting the required subtitles to .srt for these movie types is a very tedious task).

nwg
28th November 2008, 21:48
I agree - any movie under 2 hours produces great 720p results for a dvd5. I always use 2 pass 4480 fixed size, keeping orinal audio where possible - As long as video bitrate is > 4000.
If the movie has selective forced subtitles -( i.e. for non English spoken parts, mixed into the full English .sup file.)
Then I will encode to 1080 on a dvd9 - This is the only way I have found that allows you to use the original .sup without corruption and properly plays the subtitle only when non- English is spoken. ( manually picking out and converting the required subtitles to .srt for these movie types is a very tedious task).

How do you get the original sup files to work with ripbot? I have been changing them to srt first as if I select the subtitles track in the analyse stream, I don't get subtitles on the disc. Forced subs such as Kill Bill have their own forced subtitle track.

anon.j2
28th November 2008, 23:04
Two small things:


Found some reference to pausing other programs http://www.codeproject.com/KB/threads/pausep.aspx -- might help make a pause button for ripbot
It might just be me, but checkboxes next to jobs in the jobs list would be nice. For example: I put 5 jobs in the queue, they're all checked I start encoding I come back some time later and see that there's a little bit of time left for job #2 to finish I uncheck jobs 3, 4, and 5 When job 2 finishes, RipBot falls through and doesn't try encoding the rest of the jobs At this point I can use my computer again

I'm trying to find a way to manage when I can/can't use my computer because ripbot is encoding. Sometimes just letting it go overnight isn't long enough :)
bump.

shades
29th November 2008, 00:40
This doesn't work because the Audio is a multi track file and has multiple languages inside the DTS file. So, there is only one file/stream and English could be set as 4th track in the stream but RipBot only selects the first track :(

Pretty please, can a track selection option be added??

Well Handbrake 0.9.3 will allow track selection in a DTS file but it won't pass through the DTS and encodes to DD. I don't suppose anyone can recomend anything if this is not going to be possible in RipBot ??

asarian
29th November 2008, 02:38
Personally I use DVD-SL (4480MB) and resize 1080 to 720. You would be surprised how small difference is between those two in terms of quality.

You are loosing alot of fine details! Don't be fooled! Compare original with encoded and guarantee you will be shocked how bad it looks like. :)

All kdding aside, though, 1280x720 is a 2.25 (!) times lower resolution than 1920x1080. I would consider that a major loss in detail. But, like I said myself, we all use RipBot for different reasons, so it's all good.

asarian
29th November 2008, 02:45
I'm trying to find a way to manage when I can/can't use my computer because ripbot is encoding. Sometimes just letting it go overnight isn't long enough

This ability to pause/suspend RipBot activity is a longstanding issue which seems remarkably persistently ignored. :)

At long last I've just resorted to doing my rendering inside a Vmware box (Windows 2003 server, with 4 vCPU's). Rendering slowdown (due to obvious virtualization) is actually surprisingly minimal. This setup has the great advantage that I can go to my computer in the morning, hybernate the Vmware box, and continue to use my computer for other stuff, until night cometh again and I resume the RipBot task.

asarian
29th November 2008, 03:03
How do you get the original sup files to work with ripbot? I have been changing them to srt first as if I select the subtitles track in the analyse stream, I don't get subtitles on the disc. Forced subs such as Kill Bill have their own forced subtitle track.
If you let RipBot create a blu-ray structure, just mux the original PGS streams back in later, with tsMuxeR. That's what I do, at least.

it would be nice if RipBot could actually use the .sup files for hardcoding them into a movie, like we do for .srt now. After all, these PGS streams are basically just images being superimposed over the movie (which is what a physical player does anyway).

Honestly, I don't really fault RipBot for not having this ability. Last time I checked (which was, granted, a couple of weeks ago), the time-index info on the .sup files hadn't even been fully documented and understood yet (a kinda essential step). When some of the clever Doom9 gurus figures it out, though, I'm sure we'll get the facility of hardcoding PGS streams, too.

Atak_Snajpera
29th November 2008, 08:04
All kdding aside, though, 1280x720 is a 2.25 (!) times lower resolution than 1920x1080. I would consider that a major loss in detail. But, like I said myself, we all use RipBot for different reasons, so it's all good.
Wake up there! If you use ridiculous 2GB file size 1280x720 will always look better than 1920x1080. Even at DVD-SL 720p will have more details than washed-up 1080p at the same bit-rate. Math says 2.25 higher resolution but in fact difference for human eye is alot smaller. I will have to show screenshots that 1080p is very often useless!

asarian
29th November 2008, 08:33
Wake up there! If you use ridiculous 2GB file size 1280x720 will always look better than 1920x1080.

Who said anything about 'ridiculous 2G file size'? You said:


Personally I use DVD-SL (4480MB) and resize 1080 to 720


To which I stated that you lose 2.25 times more detail than with 1080p.

Unless you meant, "I would use...," which makes for an entirely different meaning, of course. But from what you wrote, I gathered you were saying that 1280x720 is what you (generally) encode at.


Math says 2.25 higher resolution but in fact difference for human eye is alot smaller. I will have to show screenshots that 1080p is very often useless!


That's a fascinating argument to have. As I'm sure some would say the difference between 720 and 480 isn't all that big, either. But Full-HD is defined at 1080p, and I like it that way. :)

nurbs
29th November 2008, 08:38
A lot of the blu-ray discs I have don't really have the detail to justify the 1080p resolution. You can do a simple test. Make a screenshot then resize it to 720p, then again to 1080p and compare it to the original. There will hardly be a difference. You lose some noise/grain, but that's it mostly.

asarian
29th November 2008, 08:48
A lot of the blu-ray discs I have don't really have the detail to justify the 1080p resolution. You can do a simple test. Make a screenshot then resize it to 720p, then again to 1080p and compare it to the original. There will hardly be a difference. You lose some noise/grain, but that's it mostly.

Why, there's a lotta crappy Blu-Rays being put on the market, for certain: hardly remasted, sometimes even bluntly upscaled, or too pixelated or lacking in color-depth and contrast. Which is why I always carefully read reviews about a certain release before I buy it. The first "5th Element", for instance, was rather bad. I only bought the second, remastered one. So, yeah, if the source is crap, I guess the buck pretty much stops there. But for the real good ones, specifically remastered for Blu-Ray, and from a good source, I definitely want that 2.25 times resolution.

EDIT: You also want to keep in mind, that very often, because of the way widesreen sizes are for movies, effectively, you'll only have an ~800p vertical area to work with, which is close to 720 already. So, scale down the whole 1080p to 720p, and your de facto film area is reduced to a measely 533.33 pixels in height! That's, height-wise, dangerously close to DVD quality. :)

juGGaKNot
29th November 2008, 09:59
The "mjpg" problem is gone with 11.5 ?

nurbs
29th November 2008, 13:01
@asarian:
I'm not talking about crappy sources. Even with high quality sources like Hot Fuzz the difference is small. I think the motion simply blurs all the small details that could be retained by the higher resolution. Then you have to take into account that when you watch the movie in motion the difference will be even less apparent. Personally I won't double the filesize so I can retain 2.25 times more noise and 5 percent more detail. Of course you can do whatever you prefer, I just found the discussion interesting.
Unless you are bound to certain resolutions, for blu-ray compatibility for instance, I don't see how wider aspect ratios can be a problem. You simply encode to a resolution that has roughly the same amount of pixels 720p has.

asarian
29th November 2008, 13:58
@asarian:
I'm not talking about crappy sources. Even with high quality sources like Hot Fuzz the difference is small. I think the motion simply blurs all the small details that could be retained by the higher resolution.

There's some truth to this, of course (it is, after all, the whole rationale behind CRF: to favor scenes with less or no motion, at the expense of high-motion material). Naturally, when blurry 1080p has the feel of 720p, blurry 720p would feel like it's even less.


Unless you are bound to certain resolutions, for blu-ray compatibility for instance, I don't see how wider aspect ratios can be a problem. You simply encode to a resolution that has roughly the same amount of pixels 720p has.

Well, the wider the effective aspect ratio of the movie, the less vertical space for it will be available (if you don't want to lose stuff to the sides). Kill Bill, for instance, only has 800 vertical pixels to spare for the movie. The only way to make that fit into screen-filling 720p is to lose material to the left and right (if I did the math right, at a 1152x720 resolution with screen-filling movie height, vs. 1280x720 for an effective 533 movie height). All in all, 1152 vs. 1280 isn't all that bad, in terms of what you'd lose in scenery; although the difference between 1920 vs. 1152 seems more costly.

dvgeek
29th November 2008, 18:13
Atak - Many thanks once again for a great program. I've archived more than 50+ BD movies and every one of them is great!

I've been using v1.11.1 and just installed v1.11.5 and noticed something strange. Just for curiosity can you please explain why you moved from using DGAVCDec to video.mkv? The move increases the temp storage by as many jobs times the video size, as I do keep the files for remuxing the subs later.

Would it be possible for you to please provide a switch to use DGAVCDec instead of video.mkv, so that users could have a choice?

Thanks very much.

Cheers!

survivant001
29th November 2008, 21:06
One question. I have few movies and cartoons that I recorded with my receiver (coolsat-7100), and I want to convert them on put on my ps3. the format is .ts look like mpeg + mp2 as audio track. I open a movie in ripbot and the output movie is not sync. I opened the video in avidemux and the movie length is not the same as ripbot reported.

I want to cut this .ts to send it as a sample. Which tools should I use ?


here the output from mediainfo
General
Complete name : F:\Bakugan-2.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
Format profile : No PAT/PMT
File size : 490 MiB
Duration : 29mn 58s
Overall bit rate : 2 285 Kbps

Video
ID : 6690 (0x1A22)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 29mn 58s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 875 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 1 347 Kbps
Width : 704 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.133

Audio #1
ID : 6691 (0x1A23)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Video delay : -269ms

Audio #2
ID : 6692 (0x1A24)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Video delay : 10s 963ms


avidemux show the movie lenght is : 27:01.488

nurbs
29th November 2008, 22:12
Well, the wider the effective aspect ratio of the movie, the less vertical space for it will be available (if you don't want to lose stuff to the sides). Kill Bill, for instance, only has 800 vertical pixels to spare for the movie. The only way to make that fit into screen-filling 720p is to lose material to the left and right (if I did the math right, at a 1152x720 resolution with screen-filling movie height, vs. 1280x720 for an effective 533 movie height). All in all, 1152 vs. 1280 isn't all that bad, in terms of what you'd lose in scenery; although the difference between 1920 vs. 1152 seems more costly.

You misunderstood what I meant. I wouldn't change the aspect ratio of the movie or crop anything besides the black bars. So the movie is 2.40:1. I would encode at 1480x616 or maybe a little lower if I wanted mod16.

anon.j2
29th November 2008, 22:21
This ability to pause/suspend RipBot activity is a longstanding issue which seems remarkably persistently ignored. :)

At long last I've just resorted to doing my rendering inside a Vmware box (Windows 2003 server, with 4 vCPU's). Rendering slowdown (due to obvious virtualization) is actually surprisingly minimal. This setup has the great advantage that I can go to my computer in the morning, hybernate the Vmware box, and continue to use my computer for other stuff, until night cometh again and I resume the RipBot task.
I've got a vmware license, I'll give this a shot. It's too bad, too. I'm sure there's SOME way to suspend/resume other processes in windows.

Atak_Snajpera
29th November 2008, 22:41
Who said anything about 'ridiculous 2G file size'? You said:
It was example regarding that post:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1217619#post1217619

That's a fascinating argument to have. As I'm sure some would say the difference between 720 and 480 isn't all that big, either. But Full-HD is defined at 1080p, and I like it that way.
Difference between 480p and 720p is alot bigger than 720 and 1080p for HUMAN EYES! You are obsessed by numbers. Some people claim that every 12 Mpix camera will always give better quality than other at 8 Mpix :) Electronic world is not that simple as you see in advertisment.
Your knowledge in this particular case is similar to example above.

survivant001
29th November 2008, 22:57
I'm not able to get this clip working in ripbot.
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=fc577931a2d88b41d2db6fb9a8902bda

always out of sync.

Atak_Snajpera
29th November 2008, 23:21
Original 1080p (Blu-Ray source)
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/11/29/t_Original108m_e619e5a.png (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/11/29/f_Original108m_e619e5a.png&srv=img32)

Spline36Resize(1280,720).Sharpen(0.2).BiCubicResize(1920,1080)
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/3/11/29/t_Bicubic1080m_8480bf9.png (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/11/29/f_Bicubic1080m_8480bf9.png&srv=img33)

Screenshots taken on Key Frame. If difference is barely visible at static frames so during motion you won't see any.

I'm not able to get this clip working in ripbot.
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=f...db6fb9a8902bda

always out of sync.
Is that hard to manually find correct delay? It took me less than 2 minutes to find that correct audio delay is around -1250ms.

I'm sure there's SOME way to suspend/resume other processes in windows.
have you used Procces Explorer?

survivant001
30th November 2008, 00:23
Spline36Resize(1280,720).Sharpen(0.2).BiCubicResize(1920,1080)


you use that to generate a 720p instead of 1080p ? (the result will be a higher bitrate of a better quality..right ? )

Is that hard to manually find correct delay? It took me less than 2 minutes to find that correct audio delay is around -1250ms.

I wan't able to find it with mediainfo.. I tough it was that the audio track had less fps than video. so the sync won't stay sync.
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Atak_Snajpera
30th November 2008, 00:46
you use that to generate a 720p instead of 1080p ? (the result will be a higher bitrate of a better quality..right ? )
This is just a SIMULATION how 720p material would look on 1080p display! BiCubicResize(1920,1080) emulates upscaling algorithm used by players.

I wan't able to find it with mediainfo.. I tough it was that the audio track had less fps than video. so the sync won't stay sync.
Like I mentioned I found audio delay manually. It wasn't difficult.

asarian
30th November 2008, 10:20
Original 1080p (Blu-Ray source)
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/11/29/t_Original108m_e619e5a.png (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/11/29/f_Original108m_e619e5a.png&srv=img32)

Spline36Resize(1280,720).Sharpen(0.2).BiCubicResize(1920,1080)
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/3/11/29/t_Bicubic1080m_8480bf9.png (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/11/29/f_Bicubic1080m_8480bf9.png&srv=img33)


It certainly doesn't look bad. The BiCubicResize image has about 3,000 less unique colors, but is still impressive, of course.

The thing of it is, though, maybe if you'd been part of the Blu-ray Disc Association, you could have convinced them to go with 720p. But 1080p it is. And you'll always gonna find folks like me, who simply don't want to lose anything: no colors, no resolution, no detail. no contrast, etc.

~bT~
30th November 2008, 11:44
And you'll always gonna find folks like me, who simply don't want to lose anything: no colors, no resolution, no detail. no contrast, etc.

so y do u re-encode :rolleyes:

nwg
30th November 2008, 11:49
I am sticking with 720p. Apart from the time saving and I am using just single layer DVD's, I only have a 720p display. So, at some stage I am going to lose resolution anyway whether it by downscaling or from the disc itself.

I tried to do a double layer dvd and the blu ray player just stuttered badly. It was fine through the computer. It seems not enough power to play the disc which is strange as it was still well below the max for AVCHD bitrates.

asarian
30th November 2008, 12:43
so y do u re-encode :rolleyes:

Yes. I have a 6T media server, and like to stream my movies to my PS3. And, like I said, for VC-1 material I'm forced to re-encode, so I do so grudgingly; hence my desire not to lose anything (or as little as possible).

nwg
30th November 2008, 15:00
Yes. I have a 6T media server, and like to stream my movies to my PS3. And, like I said, for VC-1 material I'm forced to re-encode, so I do so grudgingly; hence my desire not to lose anything (or as little as possible).

I will have 2TB of storage shortly. I can stream mpeg2 and VC-1 in original 1080p resolution but not many H264 titles. Sometimes the bitrate is low enough for them to stream but some H264 requires reencoding with ripbot to stream smoothly.

asarian
30th November 2008, 18:06
I will have 2TB of storage shortly. I can stream mpeg2 and VC-1 in original 1080p resolution but not many H264 titles. Sometimes the bitrate is low enough for them to stream but some H264 requires reencoding with ripbot to stream smoothly.

The PS3, on the other hand, streams H264 perfectly, also at 1080p, of course, but will only play VC-1 in a WMV container with 2.0 sound. *shudder*

Atak_Snajpera
30th November 2008, 21:50
The BiCubicResize image has about 3,000 less unique colors
Do you always watch movies with calculator? :rolleyes:

diskborste
30th November 2008, 22:50
Do you always watch movies with calculator? :rolleyes:
It's better if you say how you do it. ;)

WildTexasChef
1st December 2008, 04:29
I downloaded this program but it has a .7Z extension. what kind of file type is this? How do I extract it or run it?

Thanks
WTC

Jad
1st December 2008, 04:46
http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=.7Z+extension

Its a 7Zip file. WinRar will handle these natively, otherwise you can download the free app.

http://www.7-zip.org/

~bT~
1st December 2008, 12:30
Hi Atak!

A lil request please.

Can we please be given the option of using NeroAACEnc if at all poss? And an option to select default bitrate for AAC?

I mainly encode for iPod/PSP and use 96kbps all the time.. maybe these default options can be linked to certain profiles?

Cheers!!!

anon.j2
1st December 2008, 18:48
have you used Procces Explorer?
Since you're not willing to work on that feature, why not release the code so others could provide patches?

Suspend/resume isn't important to you and that's totally fine. It is important to some of us. Some of us can even code. Some of us can code and want to help RipBot be the best it can.

mochevolete
1st December 2008, 19:22
Hi, a couple of question :)

I've just discovered Ripbot, yesterday I use it to re-encode some MKV samples into a DXVA profile, but whatever I tried the result was a very little file with a very low bitrate.
I tried a couple of profiles, but the bitrate and even the file size has been ignored, resulting in a very little file (approx 1/10 of the source).
Only if the source was demuxed with Mkvextract I managed to re-encode the video properly, any idea why ?

And.. why I have to rename the .h264 extension of the just created video from MKVextract to .264 to make it acceptable to Ripbot ?

[Little OT]
If I have a video, already encoded, let's say with 10Mbps @L5.1, I can simply set the same bitrate for the re-encoding ?

thanks, Nik

nwg
1st December 2008, 22:24
I have a question. Why is there a need to create a video.mkv file of just the video. Why can't ripbot just encode straight from the mt2s or 264 file. I understand the need for analysing the video but why does it need to create a new video file and doubling the needed disk space.

nurbs
1st December 2008, 22:41
I can only guess, but on blu-ray the video is often split into multiple m2ts files, so after remuxing to a single mkv it might be easier to handle. With raw .264 files I wouldn't even know a source filter that can read them.

Atak_Snajpera
1st December 2008, 22:50
I can only guess, but on blu-ray the video is often split into multiple m2ts files, so after remuxing to a single mkv it might be easier to handle.
True. This is how eac3to works.

And.. why I have to rename the .h264 extension of the just created video from MKVextract to .264 to make it acceptable to Ripbot ?
Because I like old school 3 letters extensions :) Happy ?

asarian
1st December 2008, 23:16
Since you're not willing to work on that feature, why not release the code so others could provide patches?

Suspend/resume isn't important to you and that's totally fine. It is important to some of us. Some of us can even code. Some of us can code and want to help RipBot be the best it can.

Yup, I'm one of those people who would like to see a suspend/resume task. I'm guessing Atak has been ignoring it, because it's probably hard to do. Basically, you'd have to compile a suspend/resume capability right into x264 itself. And x264 would then have to store buffers, pointers, etc., and pick a key-frame, for example, to smoothly 'break' on. And have functionality to pick up where it left off. Pausing x264, of 'nicing' it to near zero CPU load, is much easier, of course.

Atak_Snajpera
1st December 2008, 23:20
I'm guessing Atak has been ignoring it, because it's probably hard to do.
true.

nurbs
1st December 2008, 23:23
If you just want to temporarily halt encoding you can use process explorer, if you want to turn of the computer use hibernate.

laserfan
1st December 2008, 23:24
I'm guessing Atak has been ignoring it, because it's probably hard to do.CTRL-S in x264 cmd window, or use Process Explorer Suspend/Resume.

asarian
1st December 2008, 23:35
CTRL-S in x264 cmd window, or use Process Explorer Suspend/Resume.

I was not so much thinking about pausing the process, but more about a true suspend-to-disk functionality, which could survive a reboot; hybernation won't really do for that purpose, as afterwards you then can only resume your task, or delete the hybernation data, whereas you might want to use your computer for other stuff. Such a suspend task would, indeed, be hard to make.

HouseCat
2nd December 2008, 00:48
ATI stream is coming out soon. Is there any chance of ripbot somehow making use of it to speed encoding up?

asarian
2nd December 2008, 01:30
ATI stream is coming out soon. Is there any chance of ripbot somehow making use of it to speed encoding up?

You're probably better off asking that in the x264 sub-fora.

Atak_Snajpera
2nd December 2008, 18:01
ATI stream is coming out soon. Is there any chance of ripbot somehow making use of it to speed encoding up?
Forget it! CUDA didn't change anything and ati's solution won't change anything either.

CyberTron88
2nd December 2008, 18:33
I think to be fair to atak, ripbot is (maybe i over simplify it) a gui just to take away all the complication of knowing what parameters we need to pass it with a suite of open source tools out there to get our rips running with just a few simple clicks. To create a suspend and resume, I assume unless the x264 is able to support that natively, it think it is probably out of the scope of the original aim of this tool maybe?

Given the resources available, I'm sure it might be better to do some features that are easier to implement (eg. multiple audio stream support) vs a suspend and resume?

If one knows coding, looking at the batch files that are generated, the ini files, and tools used, i think it is not that difficult to create something similar from scratch. Whether this should be open source is definitely up to his call, and open source does not necessary mean a good thing, and we might end up different fork of the codes going different directions and taking their own path.

For now, I'm happy what ripbot is doing for me, and I personally think I would hope to see ability to encode multiple audio steam if that's doable, else I won't lose sleep over this feature i would love to see.

asarian
2nd December 2008, 18:56
To create a suspend and resume, I assume unless the x264 is able to support that natively, it think it is probably out of the scope of the original aim of this tool maybe?

Which is kinda what I said:

Yup, I'm one of those people who would like to see a suspend/resume task. I'm guessing Atak has been ignoring it, because it's probably hard to do. Basically, you'd have to compile a suspend/resume capability right into x264 itself. And x264 would then have to store buffers, pointers, etc., and pick a key-frame, for example, to smoothly 'break' on. And have functionality to pick up where it left off. Pausing x264, of 'nicing' it to near zero CPU load, is much easier, of course.

Also, even if one could patch this functionality into x264, you'd have to do so, with all necessary adjustments, for every new version of x264 (and that codebase moves pretty darn fast). So, yeah, this is not something we can realistically ask of Atak. Bringing x264 suspend/resume capability up in the x264 forums, that's another matter, though. :)

Dr. Zoidberg
2nd December 2008, 20:45
Hi Atak,

Just wanted to say, like so many others, “great job” with Ripbot264! I have noticed however that under picture properties in version 1.11.5 it seems to ignore any re-size resolutions over 720x576 when I try and re-encode my DVD’s to mkv files. Sorry if this has already been mentioned but I couldn’t see it mentioned anywhere on this forum... however, the previous version, 1.10.4, didn’t have this problem, I could just select the “HD-Ready 1280x720” profile and start encoding. With this version I need to select “Automatically” from the Crop selection Dropdown Box first, then the “HD-Ready 1280x720” profile will show in the Size selection Dropdown Box? But, I don’t want to crop my DVD’s as this causes my movies to become stretched and distorted, so, after selecting the “HD-Ready 1280x720” profile I then put my crop selection back to “Do not crop” but doing this re-sizes my output size back to “Do not resize” 720x576?

So, I found this workaround, select “Automatically” from the Crop selection Dropdown Box first, then select the “HD-Ready 1280x720” profile and (this is the difference) click the down arrow button on the crop selections for “Top” & “Bottom” until they’re at 0, you’ll notice the size selection boxes stay at 1280 and 720 respectively but the size drop down dose change to “Don not resize”? So I just select Custom from this box and then I can encode as normal at 1280x720.

Is this intentional or am I missing something here? :sly:

By the way, this produces outstanding results from standard def DVD’s, great job!

Thanks again,

Doc

~bT~
3rd December 2008, 02:55
open source does not necessary mean a good thing, and we might end up different fork of the codes going different directions and taking their own path
i'm glad this is closed source ;)

CyberTron88
3rd December 2008, 16:16
Personally, as long as our requests are being looked into by atak, which I felt he is doing a great job so far, open source and close source have no meaning to me.

Everytime I faced a problem, I report it here, atak always respond with a fix pretty fast.

It works for me, and that's all I care. :)

i'm glad this is closed source ;)

nwg
4th December 2008, 00:25
Will Ripbot copy stream a DTS HD or TrueHD track and also retain the DTS/AC3 5.1 core?

asarian
4th December 2008, 01:15
Will Ripbot copy stream a DTS HD or TrueHD track and also retain the DTS/AC3 5.1 core?

Yes. TrueHD contains an AC3 core + HD data, like DTSHD Master Audio. The HD data is extra. DTSHD-MA and TrueHD work the same: at the basis is the 'core' data, and attached to each channel is extra HD data to complete the track to full HD audio. So, stripping the core would simply make a full HD audio track incomplete/broken.

nwg
4th December 2008, 01:53
Yes. TrueHD contains an AC3 core + HD data, like DTSHD Master Audio. The HD data is extra. DTSHD-MA and TrueHD work the same: at the basis is the 'core' data, and attached to each channel is extra HD data to complete the track to full HD audio. So, stripping the core would simply make a full HD audio track incomplete/broken.

Thanks. I will be soon making BD-R movie only discs. A lot of movies are already under 25GB but some are over which would mean using Ripbot to make it fit. It is my intention to only use the HD Audio tracks. I can then play the disc on my DD/DTS amp but if I upgrade to full HD audio, I will then full TrueHD and DT-HD MA/HR. I suppose I will have to include either a DD or DTS track to go with uncompressed PCM so I will have to mux the second track later with tsmuxer. Atm, umcompressed 5.1/7.1 audio only comes out in 2 channel with my amp.

asarian
4th December 2008, 02:13
Thanks. I will be soon making BD-R movie only discs. A lot of movies are already under 25GB but some are over which would mean using Ripbot to make it fit. It is my intention to only use the HD Audio tracks. I can then play the disc on my DD/DTS amp but if I upgrade to full HD audio, I will then full TrueHD and DT-HD MA/HR. I suppose I will have to include either a DD or DTS track to go with uncompressed PCM so I will have to mux the second track later with tsmuxer. Atm, umcompressed 5.1/7.1 audio only comes out in 2 channel with my amp.

I've been experimenting with my Wall-E Blu-Ray disc-set for the same reason: getting it to fit on a BD-R, whilst keeping the pretty menus; which works wonderfully well, in terms of replacing the m2ts file with a reencoded one (even with my 'insane' setting, Wall-E actually compresses equally insane well: one ~6G). Chapter selection proves a little harder, though.

Yeah, LPCM 7.1 requires an HDMI 1.3 receiver (which I don't have either, yet). But with eac3to and the Surcode encoder, you could make a nice DTS-ES track, and simply keep the LPCM track inside the m2ts for later. :)

nwg
4th December 2008, 03:02
I've been experimenting with my Wall-E Blu-Ray disc-set for the same reason: getting it to fit on a BD-R, whilst keeping the pretty menus; which works wonderfully well, in terms of replacing the m2ts file with a reencoded one (even with my 'insane' setting, Wall-E actually compresses equally insane well: one ~6G). Chapter selection proves a little harder, though.

Yeah, LPCM 7.1 requires an HDMI 1.3 receiver (which I don't have either, yet). But with eac3to and the Surcode encoder, you could make a nice DTS-ES track, and simply keep the LPCM track inside the m2ts for later. :)

Not worried about menus. A simple movie only disc with one or two audio tracks, English subs and original chapters will do.

I found a program that make it even easier to make a disc under 25GB. It is called Blu Ray to DVD Pro (but also burns to BD) and can read ripped files. All I need to do is choose rhe audio and subs. It creates a movie only structure and then burns it. Not sure if it is worth risking a blank BD. They are still not that cheap.

LPCM 7.1 still sounds great through 5.1.

asarian
4th December 2008, 14:41
I found a program that make it even easier to make a disc under 25GB. It is called Blu Ray to DVD Pro (but also burns to BD) and can read ripped files. All I need to do is choose rhe audio and subs. It creates a movie only structure and then burns it. Not sure if it is worth risking a blank BD. They are still not that cheap.

Well, both RipBot264 and tsMuxeR can create a 'movie-only' BD structure, too, which can be burnt immediately with, say, imgburn. I know both their structures result in a working BD disc. But if you don't trust it, simply mount the image in whatever virtual device you use, and play it first (or play from folder first with, say, TotalMedia Theatre).

Atak_Snajpera
4th December 2008, 15:28
Well, both RipBot264 and tsMuxeR can create a 'movie-only' BD structure, too,
RipBot264 uses tsmuxer to create blu-ray structure :)

laserfan
4th December 2008, 15:42
I thought I read somewhere here that you would show your size calculation algorithm Atak, but I can't seem to find it.

If I'm mistaken about that, fine--but I was curious to know how your app hits the target size bullseye every time!? :wow:

nwg
4th December 2008, 15:48
Well, both RipBot264 and tsMuxeR can create a 'movie-only' BD structure, too, which can be burnt immediately with, say, imgburn. I know both their structures result in a working BD disc. But if you don't trust it, simply mount the image in whatever virtual device you use, and play it first (or play from folder first with, say, TotalMedia Theatre).

I know as I use both to do that. However, ripbot will reencode and I am looking at user friendliness with as much ease as possible in little steps as possible.

Atak_Snajpera
4th December 2008, 15:55
I thought I read somewhere here that you would show your size calculation algorithm Atak, but I can't seem to find it.


if copyaudiostream=1 then audiobitrate:=strtofloat(audiobps)/1000*1024; //audio bitrate taken via MediaInfo
if audiobitrate=196608 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.008267196)/100 else //0.00027 for 4480 MB
if audiobitrate=229376 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.013130252)/100 else //0.00017
if audiobitrate=262144 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.010629252)/100 else //0.00021
if audiobitrate=393216 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.009704969)/100 else //0.00023
if audiobitrate=458752 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.013130252)/100 else //0.00017
if audiobitrate=655360 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.008267196)/100 else //0.00027
if audiobitrate=786432 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.0067640693)/100 else //0.00033 dts real bitrate is lower 737 kbps
if audiobitrate=1572864 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.0044642857)/100; //0.00050 dts real bitrate is lower 1474 kbps



if audiobitrate=0 then overhead:=1.074 else overhead:=1+(duration*multiplier+4.34)/100; //if m2ts has no audio overhead is constant


if copyaudiostream=0 then tempcalc:=( (size*1048576/overhead-SubtitleFileSize*2) /duration*8-audiobitrate)/1000;
if copyaudiostream=1 then tempcalc:=(size*1048576/overhead-AudioFileSize*1.024-SubtitleFileSize*2)/duration*8/1000; // SubtitleFileSize*2 was added in v1.11.5 to avoid oversized files with subtitles

calculatebitrate:=round(tempcalc);

laserfan
4th December 2008, 16:08
if copyaudiostream=1 then audiobitrate:=strtofloat(audiobps)/1000*1024; //audio bitrate taken via MediaInfo
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calculatebitrate:=round(tempcalc);
Many thanks for your reply, and congrats on a nice app! :)

Electrox3d
4th December 2008, 19:29
Hi. RipBot is my favorite application for converting to MKV and when it works it works beautifully! Getting this started I ran into a little issue, even though it said I had Avisynth and Haali media splitter installed, the software would just stop (not freeze, just stop) when trying to demux until I re-installed Avisynth and Haali media splitter. (not sure which one fixed it cause I reinstalled both before testing again), but then it worked.

Thank you very much for this application. It has worked on a couple episodes of a Blu-ray TV show I have. There is a question I have on one of my movies the demux fails. Here's an excerpt from the video - Log.txt:
[a03] Creating file "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.ac3"...
[s06] Creating file "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitle.1.sup"...
[a03] The source seems to be damaged (discontinuity) at file pos 10096644480.
[a03] You can use "-ignoreDiscon" to make eac3to ignore discontinuities.
[a03] Doing that might result in artifacts during playback, though.
Aborted at file position 10096656384.

Can I use this -ignoreDiscon tag within RipBot somehow?

asarian
4th December 2008, 19:51
I'm having the strangest issue with the Macross Frontier Blu-Ray discs. Since my Japanese isn't exactly what it used to be (or worse, actually: exactly what it used to be, LOL), I'll need to add English subs. No problemo, as I've done that many times before. However, upon examining the result this morning, turns out the subs were rather out of sync. Upon further examination, I found out that it's actually the movie which slows down a bit somehow (also relative to its own sound). Weird. So, I tried something else, like use an existing fan-subbed mkv (these were aired TV episodes first, of course), of which this is a small sample:

http://rapidshare.com/files/170222034/Macross_F_-_01v2-test.mkv.html

And added ".Lanczos4Resize(1920,1080)" to the 720 source. And, low and behold, the movie starts seriously lagging behind again; as the title song starts (at approx 1 min.), the movie is already 4-5 seconds behind. The same happens for the Blu-Ray episode, even when I leave it completely untouched, but the slowdown is stretched out too much to show you here, as it's ~7G file for a single 24 minutes episode, and the lag only becomes noticeable after a few minutes or so (which is still after several hundreds of megabytes).

The original m2ts file plays just fine, with image and sound in perfect sync. Here's a sample of the original Blu-Ray m2ts, but the video-delay is still extremely small here (only several milliseconds at the start of the title song):

http://rapidshare.com/files/170238770/macross1-cut1.m2ts.html

This is the only movie this happens with. Last time I added subs was for the Kill Bill Blu-Rays, and they were just fine. But that was done with RipBot 1.10.5, and an older ffdshow and haali splitter version. So I'm getting a bit worried here. I've tested this on 3 different machines, all with the same result.

I hope someone can help me out here.

Atak_Snajpera
4th December 2008, 19:57
asarian
i'm downloading now. BTW Next time use www.mediafire.com

asarian
4th December 2008, 20:04
asarian
i'm downloading now. BTW Next time use www.mediafire.com

Thanks for looking into this, Atak. :) I've already done many movies with the new 1.11.5 actually, and none of them gives me any problem. It's really rather bizarre. It's a straightforward H264 source, neatly at 23.976 fps; and I can think of no reason why this would occur.

P.S. I'll use mediafire next time; rapidshare is annoyingly limited, it seems.

x_specter_x
4th December 2008, 22:03
maybe someone can help. I am using the latest ripbot, mediasplitter, ffdshow. I just installed them all yesterday. When i try to convert a H264 movie with DTS sound into an mkv file the audio is out of sync. I used tsremux to demux the original movie file and save it in .264 and .dts format. Is this the problem? should I use ripbot to demux the video? In ripbot, i am just doing a copy of the audio track. I tried playback with several programs and different ffdshow settings, but no luck. The audio is out of sync from the beginning of the movie. Any suggestions? should i try converting the dts file to ac3 first?

It takes a little over 24 hours on my computer to the 1920x1080 movie. So I can try different things blindly, but that can take forever to see the results. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Great program, by the way!

Atak_Snajpera
4th December 2008, 22:25
Who told you to use TSMuxer?!?!?! is that hard to import .m2ts or .evo directly from original Blu-Ray/HD-DVD structure???

asarian
4th December 2008, 22:26
Atak, regarding my Macross Frontier issue, I did some more testing. For starters, the intermediate mkv you create is still correct. There's an easy test for that (with or without sound). The title song kicks in at precisely 00:00:52 hours, at which exact moment the video scene of the Macross Fleet cuts to the two dancing figurines in space. So, while the mkv is still in order, in preview mode, and actual encoding, that scene only cuts to the two twirling girls at 00:00:58, already having incurred a 4 seconds, inexplicable delay.

So, this leaves either AviSynth, ffdshow or the haali splitter. I downgraded ffdshow to a RipBot 1.10.5 version (and tried with RipBot 1.10.5); both to no avail, alas. AviSynth has always worked and has never been changed, so I'm really leaning towards the new haali splitter. Unfortunately, I can't locate an older haali splitter any more, so I can't test that.

what2be
4th December 2008, 23:11
Not sure if this qualifies as a bug, but when you pick the apple tv profile, it defaults to 1280x1024 instead of 1280x720. I have to go into the advanced options and have it resize to 1280x720 so its viewable in Apple TV.

other than that, great program. Congratulations on a very nice piece of software.

Atak_Snajpera
4th December 2008, 23:56
Not sure if this qualifies as a bug, but when you pick the apple tv profile, it defaults to 1280x1024 instead of 1280x720. I have to go into the advanced options and have it resize to 1280x720 so its viewable in Apple TV.
it's not a bug.

dvgeek
5th December 2008, 00:22
Hi Atak,

Sorry be bothering you again - but any info on my earlier post?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1218343#post1218343

Thanks.

Atak_Snajpera
5th December 2008, 00:47
rename .m2ts to .mts (AVCHD camcorder extension)

what2be
5th December 2008, 00:51
it's not a bug.

Will this be fixed in the next release? I cant see the point why you would encode to the default of 1280x1024 when you cant view it in apple tv at all at those settings.

Or is there another reason why its set at this resolution?

Thanks.

Geoff

Atak_Snajpera
5th December 2008, 01:16
Will this be fixed in the next release?
nope... there is nothing to fix. Besides 1280x1024 is not even a 16:9 so if use 1280x720 video will stretched.

what2be
5th December 2008, 01:43
nope... there is nothing to fix. Besides 1280x1024 is not even a 16:9 so if use 1280x720 video will stretched.

That is true, but what is the point of having a preset for apple tv when nobody can view the movie they are encoding for on apple tv?

I realize the problem lies with apple tv and their limited resolutions, but I cant see the point of having a preset in the software when it wont work with the device it was intended for.

x_specter_x
5th December 2008, 06:51
OK, so you are saying don't demux the video first and just use the original files in ripbot264. I am rerunning it right now using the original source files. Let you know how that goes tomorrow.

Atak_Snajpera
5th December 2008, 08:14
I realize the problem lies with apple tv and their limited resolutions, but I cant see the point of having a preset in the software when it wont work with the device it was intended for.
Because AppleTv supports also lower resolutions. 960x540 , 640x480 ... It's up to user to select correct resolution! The same story is with PSP. Some people prefer 720x480 and others 480x272. iPOD - 640x480 or 320x240 !

alc0re
5th December 2008, 11:06
Atak,

Sorry to post in this thread this is slightly off topic...

I have a question about overhead when muxing an audio file (dts or ac3) and an h264 video file to Bluray structure (m2ts) using TSMuxer. There's a formula posted in another thread but I have no idea how to use it.

All I'm looking to do is figure out what bitrate my video needs to be re-encoded at to fit on a DVD9 after transcoding and resizing to 720p. Jamos said in that post to just add 6 minutes to total length of movie in the bitrate calc, but I want to be more exact than that.

Are there any programs/bitrate calcs out there that use that formula posted by you that I can input some numbers in and it will tell me the bitrate needed? None of the bitrate calcs I saw support M2TS container. If not, would you mind helping me figure out what I need to do to use that formula? (or possibly even programming a bitrate calc for m2ts overhead...)

Thanks...

nwg
5th December 2008, 15:27
If I use ripbot to make a Bd bigger than 25GB fit on a 25GB disc what MB should I enter in the file size box?

~bT~
5th December 2008, 15:43
~ 23500 to be safe.

edited.

asarian
5th December 2008, 17:03
~ 24500 to be safe.

Are ya sure about that? The 25G is the unformatted value and is using 1000 as divider, instead of 1024. So, way I figure this, The real capacity is closer to:

Maximum Format Capacity:
Sectors: 12,219,392
Size: 25,025,314,816 bytes
Time: 2715:27:17 (MM:SS:FF)

25,025,314,816 bytes = 24,438,784 KB = 23,866 MB = 23.31 GB

And that's not counting 'spare areas' (for error correction and such).

nwg
5th December 2008, 19:33
I found out that 23.3GB is the formatted capacity which I worked out was 23,859.2MB so I will use 23,552MB to be safe which is 23GB.

jtheripper
5th December 2008, 20:42
I have found that it is better to undersize the video encode for a BD-25 because predicting the overhead size when creating the bluray structure from the video and audio mux is unpredictable. So I always set the size to 1 GB less to be safe. 1GB has negligible impact on PQ.

Shropp
5th December 2008, 20:43
whats the best way to add bars
to an already transcoded 4.1 file?
I just want 1:1 no loss or gain in quality?
like what profile? settings?

asarian
6th December 2008, 03:49
whats the best way to add bars
to an already transcoded 4.1 file?
I just want 1:1 no loss or gain in quality?
like what profile? settings?

You want no gain in quality?? :)

Apart from that, it ain't gonna happen lossless, as you'll need to reencode. I use the following settings for my high-def reencodes:

--level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 35000 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --b-pyramid --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb --no-fast-pskip --direct auto --subme 9 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me tesa --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

Warning: some consider these settings 'insane', but if no quality loss is your bag, then these will certainly speed you on your way (actually, 'speed' is the wrong term, as it will go very, very slowly).

As for borders, I just put in an AviSynth command into the script, like:

video=AddBorders(video, 0, 140, 0, 140)

Or, in 'append' mode:

.AddBorders(0, 140, 0, 140)

To, say, the first line which defines 'video'.

x_specter_x
6th December 2008, 08:39
has anyone else had a problem with audio being out of sync?

I tried converting a movie with a DTS sound track and converted the audio to 640k and set a file limit to 8150MB. I left all the other settings alone. The problem is that the output file has audio out of sync. it is off by about 3 or 4 seconds. The audio is 3 or 4 seconds before the video. It is like that right from the beginning. This time i tried it by using the blu-ray source file from the stream directory and let ripbot process that file.

Could it be the settings on the computer I am using to play back the file? codecs or ffdshow settings? The computer that converted the video is too slow to play it back (bad video card). Any help would be greatly appreciated. I figure someone else must have had this problem at some time too.

Sharc
6th December 2008, 11:54
It certainly doesn't look bad. The BiCubicResize image has about 3,000 less unique colors, but is still impressive, of course.

The thing of it is, though, maybe if you'd been part of the Blu-ray Disc Association, you could have convinced them to go with 720p. But 1080p it is. And you'll always gonna find folks like me, who simply don't want to lose anything: no colors, no resolution, no detail. no contrast, etc.

I usually crop such pictures to remove the black borders (often 132 pixels on top and bottom), then resize the remaining active picture to 1280x720 and set the sar accordingly for anamorphic encoding (45:34 in this case). This should preserve the original resolution / details best I presume. Anamorphic encoding is included in the BluRay spec IIRC - so there should be no compliance problem. I could not yet test the playback on a BD standalone though.

Atak_Snajpera
6th December 2008, 12:16
Could it be the settings on the computer I am using to play back the file? codecs or ffdshow settings? The computer that converted the video is too slow to play it back (bad video card). Any help would be greatly appreciated. I figure someone else must have had this problem at some time too.
If your CPU is too slow to decode video in real time then you get audio synchronization problems.

nwg
6th December 2008, 12:31
If your CPU is too slow to decode video in real time then you get audio synchronization problems.

Sounds like I might be lucky then. I have done around a dozen BD to DVD conversions and they have all been in sync. I only have a Athlon 64 3700 (2.2ghz).

asarian
6th December 2008, 12:40
I usually crop such pictures to remove the black borders (often 132 pixels on top and bottom), then resize the remaining active picture to 1280x720 and set the sar accordingly for anamorphic encoding (45:34 in this case). This should preserve the original resolution / details best I presume. Anamorphic encoding is included in the BluRay spec IIRC - so there should be no compliance problem. I could not yet test the playback on a BD standalone though.

That's an interesting technique. I never thought about using anamorphic encoding, but it warrants some tests, as the result would be absolutely minimal, in terms of quality loss. You'd lose a measely 80 vertical pixels (on an 800p 'real' movie); but the anamorphic horizontal encoding would mean you lose even less than you normally would with 1280.

Qwakrz
6th December 2008, 13:07
I seem to have to add a delay of 250ms on the audio to any transcode I do. Its the same for any DVD to AVI (using XMpeg) or Blu-Ray / HD-DVD to MKV (using RipBot264). I have tested the audio sync on 4 PC's and different playing software etc and its always this far out on every transcode I do.

Sharc
6th December 2008, 13:14
@asarian
Exactly. Let us know your findings.
Using this technique I normally put the movie (resulting in about 4 Mbps datarate) and 2 audio ac3@640kbps streams on a SL 4.7 GB medium. Quality is very pleasant.

asarian
6th December 2008, 13:52
has anyone else had a problem with audio being out of sync?

I tried converting a movie with a DTS sound track and converted the audio to 640k and set a file limit to 8150MB. I left all the other settings alone. The problem is that the output file has audio out of sync. it is off by about 3 or 4 seconds. The audio is 3 or 4 seconds before the video. It is like that right from the beginning. This time i tried it by using the blu-ray source file from the stream directory and let ripbot process that file.

Could it be the settings on the computer I am using to play back the file? codecs or ffdshow settings? The computer that converted the video is too slow to play it back (bad video card). Any help would be greatly appreciated. I figure someone else must have had this problem at some time too.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Your computer can be very slow, but that would not cause out-of-sync issues when (re)encoding: it would just take a frakkin' while to complete. :)

As for audio ripping, I suggest you just use eac3to yourself to rip the audio first, and mux it back in later with tsMuxeR. Also, what does eac3to itself say about a delay in ms?

x_specter_x
6th December 2008, 18:48
asarian, Thanks. I will try that. Maybe I can use my encoded .mk4 file and demux it and convert the DTS audio to AC3 and remux it. Is that what you mean? I did try taking my mk4 file and demuxing the audio and video. Then used DaudioK to convert the DTS to ac3 5.1 and then nused tsMuxeR to mux them back together again. But when I tried to play the muxed file, it would not play. I will try with eac3to this time.

I am playing the video back on a dual core AMD 4600+, with SLI 8800 GT video cards and a sound blaster X-FI fatal1ty. So the speed of the playback PC is not an issue.

Alfeuss
6th December 2008, 21:50
Not sure how difficult it would be, but if possible add option to copy video stream?

x_specter_x
7th December 2008, 00:49
OK, I tried converting the audio from DTS to AC3 and then used that audio file and the demuxed video file with ripbot. Same thing happens. The audio is about 3 seconds ahead of the video when I play it back. depressing....

asarian
7th December 2008, 02:22
OK, I tried converting the audio from DTS to AC3 and then used that audio file and the demuxed video file with ripbot. Same thing happens. The audio is about 3 seconds ahead of the video when I play it back. depressing....

At some point, I think you're probably better off discussing this in the eac3to thread, but okay...

First of all, I gotta wonder, if you play a m2ts file from the Blu-Ray STREAM directory directly, are matters still in sync? If so, you could use tsMuxeR to cut a small piece out of it (say the first minute or so), and share it on mediafire or something, so we can have a look at it.

A 4-5 seconds delay really is an eternity, audio-wise. Usually we're talking milliseconds, of course. On a very old tsMuxeR version sometimes I would get a ridiculous delay value, like -16000000ms or some such, but that sorta thing is ancient history. So, if you use a recent tsMuxeR (like 1.8.8), that sort of thing should no longer occur.

asarian
7th December 2008, 02:33
Not sure how difficult it would be, but if possible add option to copy video stream?

Not sure how difficult it would be, but could ya word your question in a less opaque fashion? :)

No, seriously, what you suggest doesn't make a lot of sense. RipBot reencodes; that's what x264 does. If you just want to 'copy' a video stream, then you're basically merely remuxing, and have no need for RipBot.

mouw
7th December 2008, 02:36
~ 23500 to be safe

Backing up Blu-Ray movies w/RipBot almost 4mos now
Done about 50 so far== 34 BD9 / 16 BD-R

my Routine ==
1920x1080p 24fps/NO Subtitles/5.1 DTS/DD (COPY ORIGINAL XX) or Aften AC3 640kbs/2-PASS
Started out doing the math...
but RipBot interActive DropBoxes are so GOOD i now use them exclusively w/2-PASS

method:
Check LockSizeTotalBox--HighLite and Enter 8150 (BD9= 8.5g DL) or 24000 (BD-R= 25g)
UnCheck LockSizeTotalBox--HighLite KBPS Adj#s until TotalBox =~ 8150-8170 or 24050-24100
OverHead is averaging 3-3.5% = BD-R and 4% = BD9 (DVD+R DL)

HouseCat
7th December 2008, 03:39
I used ripbot264 to rip a few blu-rays and it worked really well.

Only trouble is it took ages for 2-pass encoding. something like 20 hours, is that normal?
first pass was about 8.7fps and second pass was a slow 2.4fps!!

I used the stock settings 1080 no resize, ac3 5.1 audio.On the ps3profile level 4.0 setting. 8mb/s video rate setting
The only extra setting I used was auto crop.

Is there anyway I can speed up encoding time while keeping video quality in check?

I have a core 2 duo e6400@2.2 (I normally run it at 3.0 but the encoding was making the cpu too hot running at 100% all the time so had to use stock speed)
3gb ddr2 800 ram
vista

illestdomer2005
7th December 2008, 04:19
I used ripbot264 to rip a few blu-rays and it worked really well.

Only trouble is it took ages for 2-pass encoding. something like 20 hours, is that normal?
first pass was about 8.7fps and second pass was a slow 2.4fps!!

I used the stock settings 1080 no resize, ac3 5.1 audio.On the ps3profile level 4.0 setting. 8mb/s video rate setting
The only extra setting I used was auto crop.

Is there anyway I can speed up encoding time while keeping video quality in check?

I have a core 2 duo e6400@2.2 (I normally run it at 3.0 but the encoding was making the cpu too hot running at 100% all the time so had to use stock speed)
3gb ddr2 800 ram
vista

Well, even though you don't have a slow computer, your hardware is not as powerful as mine, and it still takes a while for me. If you're like me, you went from using CloneDVD to back up your movies in less than an hour to trying to squeeze a BD onto a DVD-5 or DVD-9 and have had to scale your expectations (speed-wise) WAY back.

For example, if I am encoding a 2 hour BD to a DVD-9 in 1920 x ____, I will get, on average, about 24fps for the 1st Pass and about 8 fps on the 2nd pass. This is with a Q6700 (4 CPU x 2.66 GHz) on a 780i Mobo and 4 GB of 1066 RAM and a single WD 1TB Caviar Black HDD...running Vista. I usually have it running overnight and while I am at work (encoding 2 BDs), and both are done when I get home; so, let's say that ends up being about a 18-20 hour timeframe.

It takes a while for sure!

asarian
7th December 2008, 04:43
Well, even though you don't have a slow computer, your hardware is not as powerful as mine, and it still takes a while for me. If you're like me, you went from using CloneDVD to back up your movies in less than an hour to trying to squeeze a BD onto a DVD-5 or DVD-9 and have had to scale your expectations (speed-wise) WAY back.

For example, if I am encoding a 2 hour BD to a DVD-9 in 1920 x ____, I will get, on average, about 24fps for the 1st Pass and about 8 fps on the 2nd pass. This is with a Q6700 (4 CPU x 2.66 GHz) on a 780i Mobo and 4 GB of 1066 RAM and a single WD 1TB Caviar Black HDD...running Vista. I usually have it running overnight and while I am at work (encoding 2 BDs), and both are done when I get home; so, let's say that ends up being about a 18-20 hour timeframe.

It takes a while for sure!
I went from DVDRebuilder, using the HC encoder at max, burning my quadcore Q6700 at 3.2Ghz for ~45mins for a full DVD9 -> DVD5 conversion, to ~20 hours for a very high x264 profile on a full-length 1080p movie (~2.25fps or less). Yep, these things take time. :)

HouseCat
7th December 2008, 05:58
^SO would quad core make much difference?

Alfeuss
7th December 2008, 06:33
Not sure how difficult it would be, but could ya word your question in a less opaque fashion? :)

No, seriously, what you suggest doesn't make a lot of sense. RipBot reencodes; that's what x264 does. If you just want to 'copy' a video stream, then you're basically merely remuxing, and have no need for RipBot.

It was just a possible request. I know what x264 is for, but sometimes all you need to do is convert the audio format keeping the org video. say MKV/DTS to MKV/AC3 for WDTV compatibility.

asarian
7th December 2008, 07:14
^SO would quad core make much difference?

Yes, about 2x. :) Seriously, rendering is one of those areas where you can really put your quadcore to good use. Expect rendering speed to double.

TEB
7th December 2008, 08:49
Hi. Is there a way inside the gui to check what dgindex found as field order before one does the deinterlacing choice ?
I manually checked a file in dgindex and chose upper field first as the deinterlace method.. but the quality really sucked on the progressive output.. Lots of jaggies..
Anyone got an idea how to improve this ?

best regards TE

mouw
7th December 2008, 09:22
^SO would quad core make much difference?
Yes, about 2x. :) Seriously, rendering is one of those areas where you can really put your quadcore to good use. Expect rendering speed to double.

like asarian said....i went from a E6600 (duoCore) -> Q6600 (QuadCore) same SPEED cpu
CUT times in HALF
BluRay encodes BD9 = 8-10 hrs (2-Pass) BD-R = 15-20hrs

Paddy97
7th December 2008, 12:25
I need help with profiles. Is there anyone with a good X264 knowledge that can help out I would be very greatfull.

I own both the Tvix 6500 (2 of them) and a Popcorn hour A100 that I use to play back my BD rips of my BD discs.

With Ripbot 1.10.8 I was able to create a profile that worked good with both the tvix and the popcorn.

[x264settings]
DeblockingStrength=0
DeblockingSensitivity=0
AdaptQuant=1
MotionEstimationAlgorithm=3 - UMH
SubpixelRefinement=6 - RD on I/P frames
I4X4=1
P4X4=0
P8X8=1
B8X8=1
AdaptDCT=1
I8X8=1
NumberOfRFrames=3
mixedRFrames=1
TrellisQuant=1
CABAC=1
NumberOfBFrames=3
AdaptBFrames=1
BPyramid=0
WeightBPrediction=1
HRD=1
BufferSize=24000
MaxBitrate=24000
Level=level 4.0


But with the new version 1.11.5 I am not able to create a profile that will not reboot my tvix. The default profile HD.Bluray.Consoles work on the popcorn but will reboot the tvix machine.

If I use MeGUI with the x264_dp_ PD-PS3-Xbox360 profile I get a good encode that works with the tvix but damn if I am capable of translating that profile to Ripbots. I have now done 8 encodes with different settings and they all reboot my tvix boxes. So any other tvix owner out here that has solved this problem or a x264 guru that can assist?

My latest try in Ripbot looks like this :

--level 4.0 --vbv-bufsize 20000 --vbv-maxrate 20000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3
--bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb --direct auto --subme 6 --trellis 1
--partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --me hex --threads auto
--thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim


And this is as far as I've gotten in my translation from the MeGUI profile to ripbot. Stil it reboots my tvix boxes. Very frustrating, but still I can allways use the older Ripbot version that works good.

asarian
7th December 2008, 16:48
My latest try in Ripbot looks like this :

And this is as far as I've gotten in my translation from the MeGUI profile to ripbot. Stil it reboots my tvix boxes. Very frustrating, but still I can allways use the older Ripbot version that works good.

I don't have a TviX, but I'd add these two (in bold) to the Profile, for the 'ol AVCHD compatibility:


--level 4.0 --vbv-bufsize 20000 --vbv-maxrate 20000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3
--bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb --direct auto --subme 6 --trellis 1
--partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --me hex --threads auto
--thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --aud --nal-hrd

poisondeathray
7th December 2008, 16:57
"--aud --nal-hrd" are in the current profile that Paddy97 said didn't work, so I think the culprit may be "--partitions all" that is in the current ripbot profile that may impair compatibility with certain devices (p4x4), as that is missing from the MeGUI profiles for blu-ray and AVCHD

asarian
7th December 2008, 17:23
"--aud --nal-hrd" are in the current profile that Paddy97 said didn't work, so I think the culprit may be "--partitions all" that is in the current ripbot profile that may impair compatibility with certain devices (p4x4), as that is missing from the MeGUI profiles for blu-ray and AVCHD

Yes, I see now: "--aud --nal-hrd" are already in the default Profile. My bad.

But didn't he also put in "--partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8", specifically excluding p4x4?

Also, I noticed that when I open RipBot's x264 settings menu, and immediately close it (without changing anything), that "job1_EncodeVideoPass1.cmd" retains my "me tesa" setting, which RipBot otherwise overrides to "me esa". So, doing the same open/close trick might cause Paddy97 to keep his "--partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8" too (examining job1_EncodeVideoPass1.cmd afterwards would be a good idea).

poisondeathray
7th December 2008, 17:37
Yes the settings you posted above should work asarian, you used the modifed profile that Paddy97 gave (without p4x4) and added --aud --nal-hrd (and his modifed profile likely wouldn't work without those additions on some devices)

I was just commenting on the differences between the standard profiles and why they might / or might not work

asarian
7th December 2008, 17:50
I was just commenting on the differences between the standard profiles and why they might / or might not work
And you were right to point it out. I just meant to say, that RipBot has a tendency, it seems (and confirmed by Atak, actually), to rebuild the x264 settings itself. So that Paddy97 may think that he's getting "--partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8", whereas RipBot might just replace it, unbeknownst to him, with "--partitions all" again. So, he might use the above mentioned 'fall-through' trick, and see whether his custom partition settings hold in the job.cmd file.

EDIT: What kind of a silly device is TviX anyway that it just reboots when it finds an incompatible file? :)

poisondeathray
7th December 2008, 17:58
And you were right to point it out. I just meant to say, that RipBot has a tendency, it seems (and confirmed by Atak, actually), to rebuild the x264 settings itself. So that Paddy97 may think that he's getting "--partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8", whereas RipBot might just replace it, unbeknownst to him, with "--partitions all" again. So, he might use the above mentioned 'fall-through' trick, and see whether his custom partition settings holds in the job.cmd file.

I never knew that. Does it make a difference if you edit the profile vs. manually editing the GUI settings?

LOL It's like Skynet and the Turk with a mind of it's own! What is Atak really up to :)

Maybe Paddy97 can check the x264 logs and/or file after with mediainfo or a stream analyzer to see what settings were actually "passed thru" compared to what was entered

Atak_Snajpera
7th December 2008, 18:20
Also, I noticed that when I open RipBot's x264 settings menu, and immediately close it (without changing anything), that "job1_EncodeVideoPass1.cmd" retains my "me tesa" setting, which RipBot otherwise overrides to "me esa".
Function in app looks for '--me' string. If after '--me' there is 'esa' string then it assumes ESA algorithm. As you can see tesa contains these 3 letters. I didn't know that there is even something like tesa. TESA is useless so I'm not going to change anything.

asarian
7th December 2008, 18:23
I never knew that. Does it make a difference if you edit the profile vs. manually editing the GUI settings?

I had manually edited my Profile, expecting a 1:1 passthrough to x264; however, as Atak replied to me here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1217791#post1217791

He had RipBot change my 'me tesa' to 'me esa', "because commands and positions are hardcoded."

So, I went to the x264 menu, to see if I could force 'me tesa' then. But that options isn't available, so I simply closed that box. And lo and behold, I had accidentally found out that, by doing so, RipBot now keeps my manually edited Profile settings!

I have a RipBot job running a the moment, so I can't tell for certain whether something similar happens for partitions, but I wouldn't be surprised if Atak just has RipBot rewrite that, too. That sorta thing can really trip ya up, of course, if you expect one thing, and get another. My tesa setting being reverted was minor, of course; but if you expect, say, to have taken p4x4 out of the loop, and it's still in after all, then I can see how that might surprise one.


Maybe Paddy97 can check the x264 logs and/or file after with mediainfo or a stream analyzer to see what settings were actually "passed thru" compared to what was entered
Yes, if he still has the RipBot log for that job, it will tell him that x264 command line was actually used.

asarian
7th December 2008, 18:32
Function in app looks for '--me' string. If after '--me' there is 'esa' string then it assumes ESA algorithm. As you can see tesa contains these 3 letters. I didn't know that there is even something like tesa. TESA is useless so I'm not going to change anything.
And I'm not asking you to change it, either. :) Seriously, my own workaround is good enough for me.

Also, 'useless' (like 'insane') is the the eye of the beholder. I remember a major x264 dev once saying not to discount that 1% extra quality, because find ten of these 'useless' optimizations, and suddenly you have a 10% gain in quality. These things add up.

Atak_Snajpera
7th December 2008, 18:41
Also, 'useless' (like 'insane') is the the eye of the beholder. I remember a major x264 dev once saying not to discount that 1% extra quality, because find ten of these 'useless' optimizations, and suddenly you have a 10% gain in quality. These things add up.
For real life footage even esa is useless so why do you waste your time for TESA?!!?

asarian
7th December 2008, 18:43
For real life footage even esa is useless so why do you waste your time for TESA?!!?
Like the mountain climber said: "Because it's there." :)

Atak_Snajpera
7th December 2008, 18:48
Like the mountain climber said: "Because it's there."
If you really like challenges you can always increase me range to 64 and wait a month to complete your FullHD task :) :) :) :) ("Because it's there.")

Paddy97
7th December 2008, 19:35
@poisondeathray and @asarian.

Thanks for your input. I can agree on that the tvixs behaviour is a bit odd when it finds a file that it doesn't like but the WAF factor is so high with that gadget that I am willing to overlook that behaviour since I know I can get a good encode :-)

Nevertheless it looks like my best bet is to go straight for the CMD files that ripbot produces and start manipulating them instead of trying to go through the profiles to achieve a functioning file. Ripbot is awesome when it comes to ease of use picking apart a BD disc and I really want to use it instead of MeGUI. I have another 5 BD discs in the pipe to prepare for the kids stockings ( they get the BD discs but I will have them ready in the MKV jukebox at the same time ;-) ) so a functioning RipBot will make my life easier.

But as I said, the old 10.8 works like a charm so I might just as well stick with that one as well. Once again, thanks for the assistance.

asarian
7th December 2008, 21:03
Nevertheless it looks like my best bet is to go straight for the CMD files that ripbot produces and start manipulating them instead of trying to go through the profiles to achieve a functioning file. Ripbot is awesome when it comes to ease of use picking apart a BD disc and I really want to use it instead of MeGUI.

Yep, RipBot really rocks, and it beats the crap out of MeGUI, far as I'm concerned (though the latter has its uses).


But as I said, the old 10.8 works like a charm so I might just as well stick with that one as well. Once again, thanks for the assistance.

Please, let us know what solved it, so others may use the latest RipBot with TviX too. Besides, I'm kinda curious now. :)

Also, keep in mind that you can always manually update certain RipBot components (like eac3to, tsMuxeR, x264), so as to have at least these important things up-to-date, while still using an older RipBot itself. Cleaner, of course, is just to find a settings-fix.

Paddy97
7th December 2008, 21:08
Mocking around with the CMD files created with Ripbot. This one looks a bit strange to me. As you can see it repeats partitions and subme twice. Not sure if it has an effect.

Will do a manual edit of it and try to see if it has any effect.

"C:\Downloads\RipBot264v1.11.5\tools\x264\x264.exe" "G:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs"
--pass 1 --bitrate 5972 --stats "G:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --sar 1:1
--level 4.0 --vbv-bufsize 20000 --vbv-maxrate 20000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb
--direct auto --subme 6 --trellis 1 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --me hex --threads auto
--thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --partitions none
--subme 3 --me dia --output "G:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

asarian
7th December 2008, 21:24
Mocking around with the CMD files created with Ripbot. This one looks a bit strange to me. As you can see it repeats partitions and subme twice. Not sure if it has an effect.

Will do a manual edit of it and try to see if it has any effect.

"C:\Downloads\RipBot264v1.11.5\tools\x264\x264.exe" "G:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs"
--pass 1 --bitrate 5972 --stats "G:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --sar 1:1
--level 4.0 --vbv-bufsize 20000 --vbv-maxrate 20000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb
--direct auto --subme 6 --trellis 1 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --me hex --threads auto
--thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --partitions none
--subme 3 --me dia --output "G:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

My, that looks somewhat frelled up. It seems to have a duplicate entry for "me" too (both 'hex' and 'dia'). And I don't see "--aud --nal-hrd" any more, either.

gav1577
8th December 2008, 07:36
Anyone having probs with fast first pass not working in v1.11.5 ? both passes have the 2nd pass cmd for me even with FastFirstPassin2passMode=1 selected in the ini :confused:

illestdomer2005
8th December 2008, 19:42
Yes, about 2x. :) Seriously, rendering is one of those areas where you can really put your quadcore to good use. Expect rendering speed to double.

No doubt. The two things I bought, er, built this PC to do were play games and encode/watch video. I am a designer, but I have a work computer for Illustrator, Photoshop, etc. And this rig is overkill even for CS3 (haven't seen CS4).

When I was looking into it, the only ONLY reason I went with a Quad Core over a Core 2 Duo was encoding video. I hope that more applications will begin effectively using the architecture, but I am a relative computer n00b in the grand scheme of things; so, what do I know? ;)

illestdomer2005
8th December 2008, 19:50
Protip: (only I'm not a pro lol) If you're running Vista and using Windows Media Player as your playback program, DISABLE "video smoothing" (Tools->Options->Performance). I was going nuts trying to figure out what the heck the problem was when you have so many variables like graphics card, graphics driver, quality of encode, OS, ffdshow build, etc. as potential monkey wrenches. You might not be using WMP, but believe it or not, I really liked WMP 11 in XP as my default program...even though I tell everybody to grab VLC.

Has anyone tried to encode "Knocked Up" yet? I encoded Forgetting Sarah Marshall on an older version of RipBot (1.10 something?), and it had no trouble grabbing the scattered .m2ts files. When I tried to encode Knocked Up, it had to demux the streams TWICE because of some problem with the audio, but it ultimately worked. I tried to load it up a second time, and it just seemed to "time out" or freeze on me. I was using the December 5th ffdshow build from csid at the time. I just grabbed the new xxl build last night. Does anybody know of a really stable rev2300+ version of ffdshow that I should be using instead? Much appreciated.

x_specter_x
9th December 2008, 04:05
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Your computer can be very slow, but that would not cause out-of-sync issues when (re)encoding: it would just take a frakkin' while to complete. :)

As for audio ripping, I suggest you just use eac3to yourself to rip the audio first, and mux it back in later with tsMuxeR. Also, what does eac3to itself say about a delay in ms?

Shockingly it is the source. I tried another movie doing everything the same and it turned out perfectly. It's weird that a movie ripped directly from blu-ray would have issues. Even if I use the m2ts files in ripbot, there is that audio sync problem. It is a very new movie. anyone else try ripboting w***-e? That's the movie that is giving me grief.

Thanks for the help asarian.

asarian
9th December 2008, 04:21
Shockingly it is the source. I tried another movie doing everything the same and it turned out perfectly. It's weird that a movie ripped directly from blu-ray would have issues. Even if I use the m2ts files in ripbot, there is that audio sync problem. It is a very new movie. anyone else try ripboting w***-e? That's the movie that is giving me grief.

Thanks for the help asarian.
Odd, I ripped Wall-E two weeks ago, with no problem whatsoever. :) Got a perfect AC3 track from the DTS-HD stream for my PS3.

Paddy97
9th December 2008, 07:05
Yep, RipBot really rocks, and it beats the crap out of MeGUI, far as I'm concerned (though the latter has its uses).

Please, let us know what solved it, so others may use the latest RipBot with TviX too. Besides, I'm kinda curious now. :)


Three more tests with Ripbot and I am unable to get a working profile. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Ripbot has a tendency to mess upp its CMD files when you edit the profile but that can be rectified by manual editing. Still there is some last parameter that mess upp my encodes. So for the time being I an using Ripbot to take apart my BD discs then use MeGUI for the encode. Not a perfect solution but a working one. Thanks for all the help so far.

laserfan
9th December 2008, 16:25
Mocking around with the CMD files created with Ripbot. This one looks a bit strange to me. As you can see it repeats partitions and subme twice. Not sure if it has an effect.Atak said here already that any option which is repeated will result in the last appearance of same being the operational one. I'm sure he's right, so in your example Pass 1 would be using no partitions, me dia and subme 3. I don't expect Atak will expend too much energy on posts that "mock around" with RB's command lines, so if you do it you'll need to know what you're doing for sure.

I have used RipBot264 and done all of these: aborted the Analysis of a video and changed the eac3to command, edited the x264.cmd lines, and post-264 creation I've edited the tsmuxer.meta files for manual muxing after changing chapter marks. Biggest danger I've found with mucking-around w/RipBot is that sometimes if you close a ripbot window it will delete all the hard-fought temp files. :eek:

So I now like to do everything manually myself, though RipBot264 has a wonderfully accurate algorithm for hitting an output target in 2-pass mode. :cool:

asarian
9th December 2008, 17:32
I don't expect Atak will expend too much energy on posts that "mock around" with RB's command lines, so if you do it you'll need to know what you're doing for sure.

I don't expect he will either; but that's not to say he couldn't revise that policy. :) A great advantage of the newer Profiles namely is, that they contain 1:1 x264 commands (instead of the older, custom parameters that were then later translated to x264 commands). So, it stands to reason Atak at least adds a little 'use as is' checkbox, so people can indeed use their own custom-rolled x264 settings. Sadly, my own 'fall-through' trick (open/close x264 settings menu), leaving my Profile exactly intact, doesn't seem to be working for a 2-pass, I guess.

The irony of it all is, that the whole going back to L4.0 thingy was to make matters compatible with Tvix. And now it's precisely Tvix support that's broken, it seems. :sly:

Atak_Snajpera
9th December 2008, 17:39
The irony of it all is, that the whole going back to L4.0 thingy was to make matters compatible with Tvix. And now it's precisely Tvix support that's broken, it seems.
Not all tvix devices behave like Paddy97's. Most likely it is firmware issue. Correct firmware should not reboot device but inform user that selected file cannot be played!

Biggest danger I've found with mucking-around w/RipBot is that sometimes if you close a ripbot window it will delete all the hard-fought temp files.
no wonder if you didn't select 'Keep Jobs Queue' :)

Paddy97
9th December 2008, 17:59
Not all tvix devices behave like Paddy97's. Most likely it is firmware issue. Correct firmware should not reboot device but inform user that selected file cannot be played!)

I have two of theese tvix babies. One with the latest official stable firmware 1.2.52 and one with the latest beta firmware 1.3.69 ( just checked and there has in the last day been a 1.3.74 released ).

With the latest version of Ripbot both will reboot, with the 10.8 version and default profile 1.2.52 reboots and 1.3.69 stutters heavily.

The good thing allthough is that my popcorn hour A100 box ( same sigma chip in it as tvix ) works OK with the latest Ripbot and it also had problems earlier. So its progress in the right direction. But i'm fine now. Using Ripbot 10.8 with my modified profile that I posted earlier or using Ripbot 11.5 to demux my BD and then using MeGUI to encode the video.

These boxes all run of my storage server sitting in my basement and they give my whole family access to their media entertainment at a click of button. Its the best budget solution for a full media enabled household I've come across so far and Ripbot has been a godsend to get our BD discs to the mediaserver in an easy manner.

Atak_Snajpera
9th December 2008, 18:08
The good thing allthough is that my popcorn hour A100 box ( same sigma chip in it as tvix ) works OK with the latest Ripbot and it also had problems earlier. So its progress in the right direction. But i'm fine now.
you should inform Tvix support about this. Like I said this is firmware issue.

@asarian
What switches do you add to default command line?

laserfan
9th December 2008, 18:26
no wonder if you didn't select 'Keep Jobs Queue'Hi Atak, yes I use that, but actually regardless of "Keep Jobs" setting, IIRC if one clicks the X box to close the Job Edit window, instead of clicking Done button, all files in job1 directory disappear! :eek:

Atak_Snajpera
9th December 2008, 18:36
All files (.cmd) are created only if user confirms with DONE button. What did you expect? Saving files after closing form?

asarian
9th December 2008, 19:13
@asarian
What switches do you add to default command line?

This, I believe, was the standard Profile:


--level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim


And I now use this:


--level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 35000 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --b-pyramid --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb --no-fast-pskip --direct auto --subme 9 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me tesa --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim


Apart from making a few settings more 'insane', the only thing I really added is: --no-fast-pskip. Unline Padd97, RipBot passes my Profile through 'as is' (when I first open and then immediately close the x264 settings window); not sure why it does that, but I'm happy with that behavior, as it saves me the trouble of having to edit out the cmd files manually.

EDIT: Oh yeah, seems I put --b-pyramid back in one day, too (the PS3 can handle that, these days).

laserfan
9th December 2008, 19:38
All files (.cmd) are created only if user confirms with DONE button. What did you expect? Saving files after closing form?Saving? No. Not Deleting everything, including the 22Gb file that took an hour to extract? Yes!!!

Guess I'm the only one that's made this "mistake", but it's the key reason I don't use RipBot anymore.

Atak_Snajpera
9th December 2008, 19:43
RipBot passes my Profile through 'as is' (when I first open and then immediately close the x264 settings window)
You can always manually edit .txt file in notepad. Extra switches won't be removed unless you change something in GUI (x264 window)


With those crazy switches you must be very patient guy :) BTW. You forgot to change trellis 1 to trellis 2 :) You can expect nice slowdown :) :) :) :)

Saving? No. Not Deleting everything, including the 22Gb file that took an hour to extract? Yes!!!

Guess I'm the only one that's made this "mistake", but it's the key reason I don't use RipBot anymore.

When you click X I assume that you are not interested with current job and app removes useless files. Is it logical for you now?

asarian
9th December 2008, 19:52
You can always manually edit .txt file in notepad. Extra switches won't be removed unless you change something in GUI (x264 window)

Yes, but if I don't open the x264 window, RipBot does its translation/rewriting of tesa to esa (and maybe partitions stuff too? see Padd97). So, just opening the x264 window, and then closing it directly, causes RipBot to not do anything with my Profile file, which is precisely what I want. :)


With those crazy switches you must be very patient guy :) BTW. You forgot to change trellis 1 to trellis 2 :)
I remember thinking about setting trellis to 2, but at the time I didn't see the added benefit.

asarian
9th December 2008, 19:57
When you click X I assume that you are not interested with current job and app removes useless files. Is it logical for you now?
In all fairness to you, that's seems reasonable enough. For the "Keep Jobs" option goes the same saying as always (and especially applicable here): "Use it, or lose it!" :)

Atak_Snajpera
9th December 2008, 19:58
RipBot does its translation/rewriting of tesa to esa (and maybe partitions stuff too? see Padd97)
NO partitions are not touched! I've already explained to you why tesa is changed to esa.

asarian
9th December 2008, 20:03
NO partitions are not touched!

Well, apparently Padd97 wound up with a few double entries in his cmd files (one was 'partitiions none', which I'm sure he didn't put in there). So, whatever happens, seems at least something goes awry for him in the cmd rewriting/creation process.

Atak_Snajpera
9th December 2008, 20:17
one was 'partitiions none', which I'm sure he didn't put in there)
It doesn't matter because x264 always uses switches which are closer to right side.

example: x264.exe --partition all --partition none
first partition will be discarded

partition none me dia and subme 3 are part of faster first pass

td911
10th December 2008, 00:23
Hi,

Been using RipBot for some time. Great Program.

However, I've been trying to convert files to my PSP (mostly MKVs) and after audio extraction, the program just sits there.

The VIDEO and AUDIO boxes are populated, but nothing else is populated and the only button than works is ABORT.

No codec packs are installed just FFDSHOW, Avisynth and Haali

Thanks in advance for any help.

Atak_Snajpera
10th December 2008, 00:55
1) uninstall AviSynth , ffdshow , haali media splitter
2) reboot
3) install again avisynth 2.5.7 , latest ffdshow and haali media splitter

that's all i can tell you at the moment

illestdomer2005
10th December 2008, 03:34
Any recommendation for a ffdshow codec rev that you think is a jim dandy, Snajpera? ;)

Also, what value is there in increasing the maximum bitrate in the video profile if you're encoding in 2-pass to a DVD-9 or smaller....or is that only for people using CQ profiles? Sorry for the n00b questions :)

ni9ht_5ta1k3r
10th December 2008, 07:43
Atak, everytime I use Ripbot264 on Windows Vista my BD/DVD drives won't read any discs. In order to get it to read discs I have to reboot my PC. I'd just thought you might like to know that!

Atak_Snajpera
10th December 2008, 22:34
Atak, everytime I use Ripbot264 on Windows Vista my BD/DVD drives won't read any discs. In order to get it to read discs I have to reboot my PC. I'd just thought you might like to know that!

I tested on 3 PCs (2 PC + 1 laptop) with Vista SP1 and guess what? No problems!

asarian
10th December 2008, 23:51
nope... there is nothing to fix. Besides 1280x1024 is not even a 16:9 so if use 1280x720 video will stretched.

How so would things be stretched? 1280x720 is a perfect 16:9. Besides, why have a 1280x1024 Profile for AppleTV when the AppleTV screen itself is only 1280x720?

Atak_Snajpera
10th December 2008, 23:57
Try to resize 1280x1024 (5:4) to 1280x720 (16:9)! What do you get?!!? Image with perfect aspect ratio? I don't think so!

asarian
11th December 2008, 00:24
Try to resize 1280x1024 (5:4) to 1280x720 (16:9)! What do you get?!!? Image with perfect aspect ratio? I don't think so!

I guess I don't get it, then. I mean, who has a 1280x1024 image to begin with?

EDIT: read 'image' = 'video input'

illestdomer2005
11th December 2008, 00:33
I guess I don't get it, then. I mean, who has a 1280x1024 image to begin with?

Someone with a screenshot of a video game ;) Yeah, I am unaware of any commercial video in that resolution...

td911
11th December 2008, 03:05
1) uninstall AviSynth , ffdshow , haali media splitter
2) reboot
3) install again avisynth 2.5.7 , latest ffdshow and haali media splitter

that's all i can tell you at the moment


Worked!

Thanks again.

ni9ht_5ta1k3r
11th December 2008, 12:21
I tested on 3 PCs (2 PC + 1 laptop) with Vista SP1 and guess what? No problems!

That's very strange. My drives are the LG GGC-H20L and the Pioneer DVR-215. Like Vista SP1 recognises the drives but when I put a disc into either drive nothing comes up. I usually have to restart my PC in order to get the drives to resume reading discs. Is it possible that other programs are interfering that cause ripbot, directly or indirectly, to do this?

duramaximus
11th December 2008, 18:49
I just ran into a problem I have never seen before.

"DirectShowSource: couldn't open file C:\temp\RipBot264temp\Job1\video.mkv: The system cannot find the file specified. (C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line2)"

I am running the latest version.

Can someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance :)

duramaximus
11th December 2008, 19:09
I just ran into a problem I have never seen before.

"DirectShowSource: couldn't open file C:\temp\RipBot264temp\Job1\video.mkv: The system cannot find the file specified. (C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line2)"

I am running the latest version.

Can someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance :)

Here is what the log file says.......

M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1 subtitle track, 2:19:05
1: Chapters, 28 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
4: Subtitle (PGS), English
Creating file "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
[a03] Creating file "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.ac3"...
Unfortunately the Haali Muxer cannot handle this source file.
It doesn't contain enough seek/recovery points.
The "-seekToIFrames" option may work around that.
However, using this option may result in artifacts when seeking.
Aborted at file position 6611042304.

asarian
11th December 2008, 21:41
That's very strange. My drives are the LG GGC-H20L and the Pioneer DVR-215. Like Vista SP1 recognises the drives but when I put a disc into either drive nothing comes up. I usually have to restart my PC in order to get the drives to resume reading discs. Is it possible that other programs are interfering that cause ripbot, directly or indirectly, to do this?

That's very strange. I have the same LG GGC-H20L burner + Vista; and guess what? No problems!

UsualNoise
12th December 2008, 00:47
I've seen variations of this problem, but no solutions previously suggested have worked. Here's what I did:

1) I ripped a BR disc to hard drive with AnyDVD (decrypted)
2) Opened the first .m2ts file in RipBot. The demux status increased until done.
3) Media player classic opens and just says "Opening...", and consuming 50% of CPU.

Is this normal? I was expecting to be returned to the interface per the user guide, but that's not happening. Should I wait longer (it's been over 1/2 hour). I can also note that this is the second disc I've tried and the same thing happened.

asarian
12th December 2008, 01:05
I've seen variations of this problem, but no solutions previously suggested have worked. Here's what I did:

1) I ripped a BR disc to hard drive with AnyDVD (decrypted)
2) Opened the first .m2ts file in RipBot. The demux status increased until done.
3) Media player classic opens and just says "Opening...", and consuming 50% of CPU.

Is this normal? I was expecting to be returned to the interface per the user guide, but that's not happening. Should I wait longer (it's been over 1/2 hour). I can also note that this is the second disc I've tried and the same thing happened.

Opening on Preview, you mean? That goes as fast as being near instantaneous.

UsualNoise
12th December 2008, 01:10
Opening on Preview, you mean? That goes as fast as being near instantaneous.

Yes, I guess if that's the next step. It sits there on "Opening...". I get the same result if I open up the .mkv file directly after it's been demuxed. Any ideas?

slow4mula
12th December 2008, 02:27
Here is what the log file says.......

M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1 subtitle track, 2:19:05
1: Chapters, 28 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
4: Subtitle (PGS), English
Creating file "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
[a03] Creating file "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.ac3"...
Unfortunately the Haali Muxer cannot handle this source file.
It doesn't contain enough seek/recovery points.
The "-seekToIFrames" option may work around that.
However, using this option may result in artifacts when seeking.
Aborted at file position 6611042304.

i've run into this problem before on 4-5 movies...i've always figured out a way around it by manually selecting the video and audio stream i want and remuxing into ts, then importing that into ripbot. i ran into two movies recently (i think i posted in this thread about it), but they were both mpeg2 bluray rips.

duramaximus
12th December 2008, 03:37
i've run into this problem before on 4-5 movies...i've always figured out a way around it by manually selecting the video and audio stream i want and remuxing into ts, then importing that into ripbot. i ran into two movies recently (i think i posted in this thread about it), but they were both mpeg2 bluray rips.

I hear ya. I started by picking the LPCM audio. This is where I encountered the error first. Then I used tsMuxeR to strip out everthing but the main movie, 640kbps audio and english subtitles and still the same thing.

Thanks for your response.

By the way, this is "The Guardian" in Bluray format.

UsualNoise
12th December 2008, 06:10
Opening on Preview, you mean? That goes as fast as being near instantaneous.

I figured out my problem. I reinstalled AVISynth and everything started working. Not sure what was wrong with the previous version I had installed, but obviously something was amiss. Hope this helps if anyone else encounters this particular issue.

jamd1
12th December 2008, 09:41
Atak - any chance of addding .mov file support - just downloaded a trailer for the upcoming terminator movie available from apple.com - it's 720p and would be nice to see it on my ps3 ;-)

Atak_Snajpera
12th December 2008, 11:01
Rename .mov to mp4 and check if PS3 will play this file.

brogan
12th December 2008, 19:46
Atak,

Unbelievable app, I have to say. I have one problem & I wanted to know if you could help me (or anyone who knows the answer). I have problems w/converting 25 fps content to 23.976 fps. From what i've gathered, I need to go to the drop down for "Output Speed" & change that to "AssumeFPS->23.976" but my audio stays at 25 fps per second. I'm converting to Blu-ray (AVCHD on a DL DVD) & I never have the option to Stretch the audio (that option is only available to me if I choose .mp4 instead of Blu-ray). For A/V Same Length, my only choice is "Off". Am I doing something wrong or missing something? When the movie I'm converting is letterboxed, I will make an addition to the script to AddBorders so the video doesn't get stretched...Is there something I can manually add to the script to make the audio "Stretch" to match the video? Thanks for all your hard work & time spent w/this, it's truly awesome!! :thanks::thanks:

Atak_Snajpera
12th December 2008, 22:36
AVCHD supports 25 fps as well

asarian
12th December 2008, 23:07
Atak,

Unbelievable app, I have to say. I have one problem & I wanted to know if you could help me (or anyone who knows the answer). I have problems w/converting 25 fps content to 23.976 fps. From what i've gathered, I need to go to the drop down for "Output Speed" & change that to "AssumeFPS->23.976" but my audio stays at 25 fps per second. I'm converting to Blu-ray (AVCHD on a DL DVD) & I never have the option to Stretch the audio (that option is only available to me if I choose .mp4 instead of Blu-ray). For A/V Same Length, my only choice is "Off". Am I doing something wrong or missing something? When the movie I'm converting is letterboxed, I will make an addition to the script to AddBorders so the video doesn't get stretched...Is there something I can manually add to the script to make the audio "Stretch" to match the video? Thanks for all your hard work & time spent w/this, it's truly awesome!! :thanks::thanks:

As is often the case in these matters, you're probably better off dealing with sound outside of RipBot, in eac3to; like:

eac3to 00001.m2ts 3: sound.dts -slowdown

That will take care of the 25.000 -> 24.000/1.001 fps slowdown.

Mind you, AssumeFPS, or any other change in fps, is never ideal, and you'll lose some video-fluency (some people don't notice it, others do).

Atak_Snajpera
12th December 2008, 23:33
Mind you, AssumeFPS, or any other change in fps, is never ideal, and you'll lose some video-fluency (some people don't notice it, others do).
It would be better if did your homework and saw what is difference between AssumeFPS and ConvertFPS or ChangeFPS ! AssumeFPS only slows down frame rate without removing frames!

like i said. Since AVCHD supports 25 fps (29.97 as well) i see no reason to complicate your life!

asarian
13th December 2008, 01:07
It would be better if did your homework and saw what is difference between AssumeFPS and ConvertFPS or ChangeFPS ! AssumeFPS only slows down frame rate without removing frames!
Doesn't make a difference. Unless you have a 24p TV, you'll still see the conversion from 25fps -> 24/1001. So, whether you let AssumeFPS slow down/speed up your video and then have your TV adjust to its own fps, or do a ChangeFPS and drop a few frames here and there, it's all the same.

My Serenity HD-DVD, for example (PAL), was released at 25fps (with, annoyingly, a too high pitch on the sound). So, I used AssumeFPS to slow it down to 24p. And now the sound is in order again, but my TV still outputs the stream at 25fps, artificially adding a higher temporal resolution. And this you will notice.

jamd1
13th December 2008, 02:06
dupe entry.

jamd1
13th December 2008, 02:07
Rename .mov to mp4 and check if PS3 will play this file.

Thx - PS3 notes the renamed file as corrupted data - but ripbot will now process it ok.:)

brogan
13th December 2008, 02:39
AVCHD supports 25 fps as well


Atak,

I have a region A BD player (and a PS3) are you saying that I shouldn't bother converting 25 fps to 23.976? I know AVCHD supports 25 fps but will it play in my players? I've never converted anything to that fps & wouldn't want to waste 24 + hours if it won't work. I have a 120hz HDTV & was trying to get 23.976 fps (video & audio). Is there no way to do that through RipBot? Thanks for the reply...

Atak_Snajpera
13th December 2008, 08:11
Try with something short.

asarian
13th December 2008, 08:53
Atak,

I have a region A BD player (and a PS3) are you saying that I shouldn't bother converting 25 fps to 23.976? I know AVCHD supports 25 fps but will it play in my players? I've never converted anything to that fps & wouldn't want to waste 24 + hours if it won't work. I have a 120hz HDTV & was trying to get 23.976 fps (video & audio). Is there no way to do that through RipBot? Thanks for the reply...

The PS3 plays 25fps just fine. But you'll probably get some judder on your TV at 120hz (120 = 5 x 24).

BZeeme
13th December 2008, 10:23
Atak - Would you allow RipBot264 to select the subtitle.1.sup file from the "Add Subtitle" screen?
Currently only .srt files are allowed, so I have to use SupRip to generate a srt file(I use auto-OCR but do not correct the errors since I'm not actually going to use it). Say I named this srt file "subs.srt", after RipBot264 converts subs.srt file to subs.sup, I go to the job1 folder, delete that subs.sup, and rename subtitle.1.sup to subs.sup so I get the original subtitles and can chose to view them or turn them off.

illestdomer2005
13th December 2008, 23:54
I just used RipBot to encode Tropic Thunder into an MKV. Everything looks great until the very end when RDJr is presenting the award to Ben Stiller. I get macroblocking like CRAZY. I haven't changed any settings in RipBot and have maintained the Profile for PS3s:

--level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

I did not denoise it or anything either. Any ideas what's going on? It looks the same when I select 2-pass for DVD-5 and DVD-9. Playing the original m2ts file does not generate these video aberrations which indicates to me that this is clearly not an issue with the source. Anybody seen this before? Advice? Thanks!

Atak_Snajpera
13th December 2008, 23:55
May I see screenshots? Or even better a sample where the problem occurs. Use mmg.exe from tools/MKVToolnix

benedicto
14th December 2008, 14:34
I have a problem with overlaping subtitles

I reencoded a mkv file to a smaller mkv. It contains 2 subtitle streams, first stream being Dutch and second English. I added the English .srt to output. What came out was the Dutch sub was "hardsubbed" to the mkv and English softsubbed, and they overlapped. I tested several other mkv files and found this problem occurs only when there are 2 or more sub streams and the the sub you want is not in the first stream.

I can solve the problem by extracting unwanted subs, or by switching sub streams or by disabling subtitles in ffdshow video config when encoding. But is this a bug or something?

illestdomer2005
14th December 2008, 17:32
May I see screenshots? Or even better a sample where the problem occurs. Use mmg.exe from tools/MKVToolnix

Let me know if this is visible enough. The original is a little over 2MB, but I still think you can clearly see the discoloration and macroblocking, particularly on Jon Voight's face.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/illestdomer2005/TropicThunderScreenshot.png

Atak_Snajpera
14th December 2008, 21:44
I see it. I need you to prepare sample from video.mkv (or .m2ts) so x264 team can check this. Use mmg.exe (or this (http://www.bitstreamtools.com/) for .m2ts) and upload 50 MB sample to www.mediafire.com

asarian
15th December 2008, 01:19
I just used RipBot to encode Tropic Thunder into an MKV. Everything looks great until the very end when RDJr is presenting the award to Ben Stiller. I get macroblocking like CRAZY. I haven't changed any settings in RipBot and have maintained the Profile for PS3s:

Since the PS3 does not not support MKV files, I wonder how you're playing this file, because it might just be your mkv player. For a simple test I would just use remux it to m2ts and play it with something else than you're mkv player.

Also, when streaming with Twonky, I noticed the latter gets confused/messed up sometimes when you're overwriting an existing file (resulting in the kind of errors you're seeing). Having it rebuild its database solves that.

A 50MB sample from the original file would probably help, too (for reproducibility).

Atak_Snajpera
15th December 2008, 01:23
I wonder if your problem is related to this http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143444

b!uFm@3T3R
15th December 2008, 05:22
ok when ever i click on ripbot264

this error coms up

http://imuploader.com/images/jinnmlsjwbndvf6plb7.jpg

the software still opens up

then i go to
http://imuploader.com/images/46cbr4nggcibv9m5hr2.jpg

when i click on ok this error comes up
http://imuploader.com/images/q1l7w6nl5ohvxz0cwngb.jpg

Atak_Snajpera
15th December 2008, 08:11
install latest ffdshow

CyberTron88
15th December 2008, 13:24
hmm... I seem to have problem with Band of Brothers Disc 3, episode 6.

At the start where the HBO logo is shown, there seems to be a problem with the encoding. The intermediate video.mkv generated is ok, but when re-encoded to h264, it have this artifact.

Trying now with 1.10.8 to see if the problem persist.

b!uFm@3T3R
15th December 2008, 23:14
first i click on the movie and open it click the audio subs and wat i wanted then when i click ok it says analyzing the stream since morning ~more than 8 hrs

Edit: Solved my Problem

Atak_Snajpera
16th December 2008, 00:03
Where is beginning and end of your sentence? I don't understand at all!

b!uFm@3T3R
16th December 2008, 01:06
^^ if that was to me then i got that problem so dont mind
any way when ever ripbot was demuxing at 99% this error come up

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5519/26342714lk0.jpg

illestdomer2005
16th December 2008, 08:15
Thanks atak and asarian...I will try to get some sample video up some time this week...just busy right now trying to close the office down for Christmas :)

I will say, though, that I did two encodes of the same file at different sizes with similar results, BUT they were from the same job. That is, when RipBot demuxed the streams, that data was used both times. Additionally, I ripped the movie with XVID4PSP, and I didn't get that macroblocking. We're talking same ffdshow build too. So, since both players (Windows Media and VLC) had a problem with the RipBot file, and both media players played the XVID4PSP file perfectly, I believe the problem is RipBot, BUT I also believe that the problem is most likely a bad initial analysis. I will try to rip the movie again and see if the problems persist...although I am going to be mad about the wasted time if I get it again lol

asarian,

I wasn't streaming this to my PS3. I was just watching it on the same comp that I ripped it.

CyberTron88
16th December 2008, 08:20
ok...found out my problem is more of vlc cannot decode it properly...cos it playback fine on my laptop and on my nmt too.

asarian
16th December 2008, 10:45
I wonder if your problem is related to this http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143444

Atak, you may want to look at this, too:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1224766#post1224766

Seems the issue also exists in r1029M, but not in r1028M (which I believe came with RipBot 1.11.4).

asarian
16th December 2008, 12:54
Thanks atak and asarian...I will try to get some sample video up some time this week...just busy right now trying to close the office down for Christmas :)

I will say, though, that I did two encodes of the same file at different sizes with similar results, BUT they were from the same job. That is, when RipBot demuxed the streams, that data was used both times. Additionally, I ripped the movie with XVID4PSP, and I didn't get that macroblocking. We're talking same ffdshow build too. So, since both players (Windows Media and VLC) had a problem with the RipBot file, and both media players played the XVID4PSP file perfectly, I believe the problem is RipBot, BUT I also believe that the problem is most likely a bad initial analysis. I will try to rip the movie again and see if the problems persist...although I am going to be mad about the wasted time if I get it again lol

I doubt RipBot's demuxing caused it. It could very well be related to that x264 problem Atak mentioned. That issue does not exist in 'x264 core:65 r1028M' (the x264 version that came with RipBot 1.11.4); so you might want to try it with that, too.

And there's no need to go mad over wasted time, is there? I mean, just use tsMuxeR to 'Cut' the offending scene out of it (a few seconds), and encode that, instead of the entire movie.

ZappoB
17th December 2008, 01:53
Is it possible to include two audio tracks in a MKV container with RipBot264?

Ajax_Undone
17th December 2008, 03:31
No many have asked but none have succeeded in this particular request.. Good luck..

You can always do it manual way with mkvtoolnix

illestdomer2005
17th December 2008, 05:52
I doubt RipBot's demuxing caused it. It could very well be related to that x264 problem Atak mentioned. That issue does not exist in 'x264 core:65 r1028M' (the x264 version that came with RipBot 1.11.4); so you might want to try it with that, too.

And there's no need to go mad over wasted time, is there? I mean, just use tsMuxeR to 'Cut' the offending scene out of it (a few seconds), and encode that, instead of the entire movie.

You're right...no reason to get mad, which is why I lol'ed ;) Not ripping (no pun intended) on RipBot either...it's far and away the best overall tool. And I've only noticed this on Tropic Thunder. All other videos look great.

But you're saying I should replace the x264 tool? Cool.

asarian
17th December 2008, 05:57
But you're saying I should replace the x264 tool? Cool.
Dark Shikari provided an intermediate patch for the ugly fading issue (in the other thread):

http://www.mediafire.com/?3nozdw0ozn1

It might solve your issue, too.

illestdomer2005
17th December 2008, 06:40
So I tried switching the x264 tool to the one here: x264 from other thread that asarian used (http://www.mediafire.com/?3nozdw0ozn1) Similar results in the same spot. Before I waste/spend the 8+ hours to encode, I play the sample video back in Media Player Classic when I preview the script. I'm getting the same egregious macroblocking every time. I'd say that maybe I need to rip it from AnyDVD again, but the .m2ts source file plays FINE! I don't know what in this build of RipBot or the different ffdshow builds is causing the problem. I've tried a couple of different builds, and it's the same result. I am currently using the December 13 XXL ffdshow build.

asarian
17th December 2008, 15:45
So I tried switching the x264 tool to the one here: x264 from other thread that asarian used (http://www.mediafire.com/?3nozdw0ozn1) Similar results in the same spot. Before I waste/spend the 8+ hours to encode, I play the sample video back in Media Player Classic when I preview the script. I'm getting the same egregious macroblocking every time. I'd say that maybe I need to rip it from AnyDVD again, but the .m2ts source file plays FINE! I don't know what in this build of RipBot or the different ffdshow builds is causing the problem. I've tried a couple of different builds, and it's the same result. I am currently using the December 13 XXL ffdshow build.

Too bad that didn't solve it for you.

You know, another thing I got to think about, to what codec have you set ffdshow to hande VC-1? If your source is VC-1, you may want to set ffdshow to let wmv9 handle it, instead of its own libavcodec.

juGGaKNot
17th December 2008, 16:11
i have a problem ( that is also a request )

my footage is uncompressed full range [0,255] RGB32

and the ripbot script output is TV range [16,235] YV12

can you add a checkbox with "force full range"

ConvertToYV12(clip, matrix="PC.601") and not the default matrix "Rec601"

illestdomer2005
17th December 2008, 17:01
Too bad that didn't solve it for you.

You know, another thing I got to think about, to what codec have you set ffdshow to hande VC-1? If your source is VC-1, you may want to set ffdshow to let wmv9 handle it, instead of its own libavcodec.

Thanks asarian...I appreciate all your help here too. Tropic Thunder is actually AVC though, and like I said, the weird thing is that XVID4PSP is able to encode the video no problem. I just don't know what is happening during the demuxing process that is generating the macroblocking.

Also, what tool does RipBot use during the demux? I know that in one of the later versions of RipBot that I used for months and months before the current iteration -- I believe it was 1.10.4 -- would actually demux the the video stream to an mkv during the demuxing process. Now, I only see eac3to.exe as an active app during the demux. Is RipBot handling it differently now, and is that possibly the culprit?

ZappoB
17th December 2008, 17:26
No many have asked but none have succeeded in this particular request.. Good luck..

You can always do it manual way with mkvtoolnix
Thank you for this tip! Easy to use and does, what I expected!
:thanks:

asarian
17th December 2008, 18:32
Thanks asarian...I appreciate all your help here too. Tropic Thunder is actually AVC though, and like I said, the weird thing is that XVID4PSP is able to encode the video no problem. I just don't know what is happening during the demuxing process that is generating the macroblocking.

Also, what tool does RipBot use during the demux? I know that in one of the later versions of RipBot that I used for months and months before the current iteration -- I believe it was 1.10.4 -- would actually demux the the video stream to an mkv during the demuxing process. Now, I only see eac3to.exe as an active app during the demux. Is RipBot handling it differently now, and is that possibly the culprit?

Way I recall, RipBot still muxes to an intermediate mkv, unless the source itself is mkv.

I doubt the demuxing causes it. But you could have a look at job1.avs (in the RipBot264temp dir) before you start the encoding, and see what file is being used. Since that new mkv (if any) is stored in/copied to the RipBot264temp dir, you could simply play from that location, and see whether the problem lies there.

Also, a sample would be useful; just a few seconds clip might go a long way towards others being able to check for themselves.

illestdomer2005
17th December 2008, 20:30
Way I recall, RipBot still muxes to an intermediate mkv, unless the source itself is mkv.

I doubt the demuxing causes it. But you could have a look at job1.avs (in the RipBot264temp dir) before you start the encoding, and see what file is being used. Since that new mkv (if any) is stored in/copied to the RipBot264temp dir, you could simply play from that location, and see whether the problem lies there.

Also, a sample would be useful; just a few seconds clip might go a long way towards others being able to check for themselves.

Yeah, like I said...I will try to get a sample out tonight or tomorrow. It's just been busy at work, and I just haven't gotten around to cutting a sample, but something is clearly happening between the pristine source file and whatever is played in the preview after demuxing. Of course, there are myriad variables.

b!uFm@3T3R
18th December 2008, 01:00
i think my post last page everyone missed it so can some one plz help

the problem is when ever ripbot is demuxing, at 99% this error comes up

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5519/26342714lk0.jpg

asarian
18th December 2008, 04:57
...

something is clearly happening between the pristine source file and whatever is played in the preview after demuxing. Of course, there are myriad variables.
If it's happening in the preview already, then clearly it's not a x264 issue, but related to ffdshow/AviSynth. The Preview mode is just an on-the-fly generated avs script, so as to show you what AviSynth will parse to x264.

illestdomer2005
18th December 2008, 05:24
If it's happening in the preview already, then clearly it's not a x264 issue, but related to ffdshow/AviSynth. The Preview mode is just an on-the-fly generated avs script, so as to show you what AviSynth will parse to x264.

I thought it might be an ffdshow issue, but it has happened on multiple builds now, and, like I said, Handbrake and XVID4PSP aren't producing this problem at all while RipBot is doing it every single time. I think you could be onto something re: AviSynth as I believe that XVID4PSP and Handbrake both have AviSynth built into their installer packages, thus, whatever AviSynth build I downloaded with would be exclusive to RipBot... I'll have to try that out.

hcour
18th December 2008, 09:33
Hello. I'm trying out your program for the first time, on a m2ts file. After it finishes the intial "Encoding Settings", MPC opens up and it hangs there, it just says "Opening" and doesn't get any further. Any help would be much appreciated.

I'm running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

asarian
18th December 2008, 13:26
Hello. I'm trying out your program for the first time, on a m2ts file. After it finishes the intial "Encoding Settings", MPC opens up and it hangs there, it just says "Opening" and doesn't get any further. Any help would be much appreciated.

I'm running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

Same issue:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1222910#post1222910

illestdomer2005
18th December 2008, 17:30
asarian,

I updated RipBot's x264 with the 1057 build from digital digest -- is this not an "official" release? -- AND installed ffdshow_rev2421_20081205_clsid. I checked the preview, and voila! No macroblocking! I'm not convinced that the ffdshow build was the issue, though, since Handbrake and XVID4PSP both created a solid video with the build that was giving RipBot trouble.

I am going to try to isolate the variable tonight and should be able to post a sample video as well.

asarian
19th December 2008, 01:18
asarian,

I updated RipBot's x264 with the 1057 build from digital digest -- is this not an "official" release? -- AND installed ffdshow_rev2421_20081205_clsid. I checked the preview, and voila! No macroblocking! I'm not convinced that the ffdshow build was the issue, though, since Handbrake and XVID4PSP both created a solid video with the build that was giving RipBot trouble.
Well, it simply can't be x264, as that isn't being used yet at the Preview stage; so it was either ffdshow, or the Haali media splitter. But since you haven't updated the latter, my money is on ffdshow. :)

illestdomer2005
19th December 2008, 05:24
Well, it simply can't be x264, as that isn't being used yet at the Preview stage; so it was either ffdshow, or the Haali media splitter. But since you haven't updated the latter, my money is on ffdshow. :)

I can't explain it, but after changing out x264, it worked! Keep in mind, I used the EXACT SAME ffdshow build when I encoded in Handbrake and XVID4PSP. Color me confused!

I highly recommend trying the new (1057) x264 and stable ffdshow build that came out yesterday. Also, if you're a Vista user, make sure you allow/unblock x264 when you replace the version that comes with RipBot. Good ole Microsoft doesn't trust that you know what you're doing... :rolleyes:

Asarian,

I appreciate all your help, buddy.

hcour
19th December 2008, 15:12
Same issue:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1222910#post1222910

That did it. Thanks much!

Blackwalker
20th December 2008, 05:44
hi, if i need to convert a "m2ts" file in a blu-ray disc structure, using RipBot 264 and
to resize it to fit in a 25gb blank blu-ray disk, i need only to set:
- output as "blu-ray disc"
- lock size to 25GB but i see this option only if i set "2-pass" and not if i set "CQ"...or i miss somthing?
- kbps...what i have to set here for a 25GB output blu-ray structure?

PLS, can you tell me which settings i have to use! :(



If the Audio of the movie is TRUE-HD i have to set X.X COPY STREEM?

....i still have to figure what mean "X.X COPY STREEM"...it leave the audio how it is or what?
(hope m english is not so bad)

or there is a fastest way to convert only the size of a blu-ray movie to fit into a 25GB blank disk?

tyvm and hope someone can help me! :)

vman9999
20th December 2008, 05:54
Hi everyone.

I'm new to the group and I'm very excited to be a member. I've been involved with video conversions for several years now but now diving into Blu-Ray source. I am converting from Blu-Ray to Apple TV and RipBot has to be one of the nicest and easyest programs that I've seen (Great Job!).

The video conversion is perfect but I have run into one snag with the audio. I am trying to get the best of both worlds when it comes to audio and I'm not sure how to do it with RipBot. As we know, AAC is only supported in an mp4 container but to get AAC+AC3 passthrough to work on an Apple TV you need to use an m4v container.

Is their anyway to do this with RipBot?

Thanks

Atak_Snajpera
20th December 2008, 13:43
m4v = mp4
and
m4a = mp4

vman9999
20th December 2008, 15:50
Thanks for the quick response however I'm still not clear if there are settings within RipBot to accomplish this or do I have to do this externally?

Thanks again.

jtheripper
20th December 2008, 18:25
hi, if i need to convert a "m2ts" file in a blu-ray disc structure, using RipBot 264 and
to resize it to fit in a 25gb blank blu-ray disk, i need only to set:
- output as "blu-ray disc"
- lock size to 25GB but i see this option only if i set "2-pass" and not if i set "CQ"...or i miss somthing?
- kbps...what i have to set here for a 25GB output blu-ray structure?

PLS, can you tell me which settings i have to use! :(



If the Audio of the movie is TRUE-HD i have to set X.X COPY STREEM?

....i still have to figure what mean "X.X COPY STREEM"...it leave the audio how it is or what?
(hope m english is not so bad)

or there is a fastest way to convert only the size of a blu-ray movie to fit into a 25GB blank disk?

tyvm and hope someone can help me! :)

first ripbot will not handle dolby truhd properly due to tsmuxer. It will downconvert it to ac3 640kbps if you choose copy stream. It is best to choose no audio and choose a file size that is minus the HD audio you demuxed with eac3to and laso dont forget to allow some overhead for bluray file creation. If you have a dts hd master it will convert that to dts if you use copy stream. after you have created the downsized video in ripbot you will need to mux back the hd audio with the downsized video. However at this time using tsmuxer to do this works sometimes only, it will ruin the truhd audio usually. dts hd master is no problem. best to convert the truHD to lpcm using eac3to first, then see file size deduct that from 22GB and what is left use as video size in ripbot

Blackwalker
20th December 2008, 21:23
first ripbot will not handle dolby truhd properly due to tsmuxer. It will downconvert it to ac3 640kbps if you choose copy stream. It is best to choose no audio and choose a file size that is minus the HD audio you demuxed with eac3to and laso dont forget to allow some overhead for bluray file creation. If you have a dts hd master it will convert that to dts if you use copy stream. after you have created the downsized video in ripbot you will need to mux back the hd audio with the downsized video. However at this time using tsmuxer to do this works sometimes only, it will ruin the truhd audio usually. dts hd master is no problem. best to convert the truHD to lpcm using eac3to first, then see file size deduct that from 22GB and what is left use as video size in ripbot

ok, i think i have to "read and read and read and read" again what you say, my english is not so good but not so bad,
the problem is i'm still a noob about blu-ray conversion and i still have to use eac3to, so i need time to understand and check if
this work.

anyway, thx a lot for your help! :D

b66pak
20th December 2008, 21:58
Off topic:

@Atak_Snajpera your inbox is full!
_

Blackwalker
21st December 2008, 08:15
hope Atak_Snajpera'll make a new version soon.

...even if there are some little bugs, like the audio processing loop for each subtitle,
even if its still not "perfect", I'd like to make a donation so the developer can continue to make a better version:
There is a way to Donate some money to the developer?

thx =)

mmmmdonut
21st December 2008, 14:18
Thanks for the quick response however I'm still not clear if there are settings within RipBot to accomplish this or do I have to do this externally?

Thanks again.

If memory serves, what Apple did with AC3 was never in the mpeg4 spec which is why you see RB only allow you to use AAC when container is mp4.

If you want AC3, you will have to add it by hand as a secondary audio track.

vman9999
21st December 2008, 17:59
If memory serves, what Apple did with AC3 was never in the mpeg4 spec which is why you see RB only allow you to use AAC when container is mp4.

If you want AC3, you will have to add it by hand as a secondary audio track.

Yes, you are correct. I've been able to do this with Handbrake and it does allow for multiple audio channels in an m4v container. This works fine but the video is not quite as good as RipBot. There is a very very slight difference but I can see it. I guess I'm splitting hairs here but I'm spoiled after using RipBot.

I guess I'll give it a try manually and see what I get.

Thanks again.

hcour
21st December 2008, 21:16
Hope it's alright to make suggestions here. If possible, could you add a "Pause" option? Even on Low Priority it uses a lot of cpu, it'd be nice to be able to pause the program if something else cpu-intensive needed to be done. And thanks for a great program!

wakebrder
21st December 2008, 21:20
first ripbot will not handle dolby truhd properly due to tsmuxer. It will downconvert it to ac3 640kbps if you choose copy stream. It is best to choose no audio and choose a file size that is minus the HD audio you demuxed with eac3to and laso dont forget to allow some overhead for bluray file creation. If you have a dts hd master it will convert that to dts if you use copy stream. after you have created the downsized video in ripbot you will need to mux back the hd audio with the downsized video. However at this time using tsmuxer to do this works sometimes only, it will ruin the truhd audio usually. dts hd master is no problem. best to convert the truHD to lpcm using eac3to first, then see file size deduct that from 22GB and what is left use as video size in ripbot

Atak- Is there any way you could provide an option in the next version to not extract the DTS core and use the untouched DTS HD Master audio track instead? That way, we would not have to use the above procedure to retain DTS-HD master audio stream?

Thanks again for the great program.

valnar
22nd December 2008, 00:38
I haven't used Ripbot in awhile but just tried it again because I bought an iPod 5th gen (first iPod Video) and wanted to transcode a movie for it. I picked the level 3 ipod preset, changed video resolution to 320x240 and let her rip. The video came out small, sound was fine, everything looked good.

iTunes 8.02 didn't like it. It said it was not compatible. What am I missing? I've read some conflicting information on the web that it needed to be level 1.3 compliant instead. Is there anything else?

Dark Shikari
22nd December 2008, 00:41
I haven't used Ripbot in awhile but just tried it again because I bought an iPod 5th gen (first iPod Video) and wanted to transcode a movie for it. I picked the level 3 ipod preset, changed video resolution to 320x240 and let her rip. The video came out small, sound was fine, everything looked good.

iTunes 8.02 didn't like it. It said it was not compatible. What am I missing? I've read some conflicting information on the web that it needed to be level 1.3 compliant instead. Is there anything else?Level 3.0 preset is for iPod 5.5g and later.

Atak_Snajpera
22nd December 2008, 00:42
open ipod profile in notepad and change --level 3.0 to --level 1.3

valnar
22nd December 2008, 00:59
Thank you, and thank you.

Are there any other optimizations for this iPod other than the level change?

~bT~
22nd December 2008, 01:07
I haven't used Ripbot in awhile but just tried it again because I bought an iPod 5th gen (first iPod Video) and wanted to transcode a movie for it. I picked the level 3 ipod preset, changed video resolution to 320x240 and let her rip. The video came out small, sound was fine, everything looked good.

iTunes 8.02 didn't like it. It said it was not compatible. What am I missing? I've read some conflicting information on the web that it needed to be level 1.3 compliant instead. Is there anything else?
i have that same ipod & the new touch. ipod profile works fine.
are you using an old version of rb264?

decayed.cell
22nd December 2008, 02:22
Great program Atak, but would it be possible to have a mode that lets you select multiple files for batch processing using the same settings? Its just a bit painstaking to have to load each file one at a time for conversion :D

valnar
22nd December 2008, 03:41
Thank you, and thank you.

Are there any other optimizations for this iPod other than the level change?

I got it to "work". It played the video, but Ripbot doesn't understand anamorphic DVD sources? It was all stretched.

Blackwalker
22nd December 2008, 06:39
the "only" thing i'd like to see fixed soon is the loop with subtitles :(

Blackwalker
22nd December 2008, 07:38
well,
i used ripbot to make a 27GB movie (with a AC3 audio track) to fit ina 25GB blank bluray disc.
I set "2-pass", locksize 23000MB and i left bluray profile 4.0.

Video = perfect
Audio = perfect "BUT Very LOW" i mean the sound level is very low!

maybe i had to set profile 4.1?
some suggestion pls?

thx!

bbyers70
22nd December 2008, 20:48
Hi everyone.

I'm new to the group and I'm very excited to be a member. I've been involved with video conversions for several years now but now diving into Blu-Ray source. I am converting from Blu-Ray to Apple TV and RipBot has to be one of the nicest and easyest programs that I've seen (Great Job!).

The video conversion is perfect but I have run into one snag with the audio. I am trying to get the best of both worlds when it comes to audio and I'm not sure how to do it with RipBot. As we know, AAC is only supported in an mp4 container but to get AAC+AC3 passthrough to work on an Apple TV you need to use an m4v container.

Is their anyway to do this with RipBot?

Thanks
Very easy to use RipBot264 and have a file play on an AppleTV with Dolby 5.1 sound. This is what I do for mine. I use a Windows machine to create a MKV file with AC3 for sound.

Note: If you leave the audio set to xx.COPY STREAM the audio will be extremely quiet on playback. Be sure to choose the best (highest bitrate) audio stream for the desired language and set the bitrate to 448kbps at the most. 640kbps would not playback on my AppleTV.

For the video set the bitrate to 6860kbps, 2-pass mode, autocrop and resize to HD-READY 1280x720. 6860kbps is the maxium rate that AppleTV would support once the audio was muxed into the final file. I have tested this over and over and have made many non-compatiable files. I would waste your time on type to gain a few extra bits. Apple's support says that 5000kbps is the maximum bitrate and this is only a safe limit placed by Apple in order so they dont get any backlash from consumers.

Use the MKV container and encode your file. My Core2 DUO 3.0GHz takes about 8 hours to encode a typical 100min movie.

Now I move the large MKV file to my Mac and use Quicktime to finish the job.

On the Mac make sure you have Perian installed. This allows the Mac to "comprehind" the AC3 audio.

Open up the MKV file in Quicktime (this will take a few minutes to load). DO NOT PLAY the file once loaded. Now save the file as a MOV. File / Save As.

The file can now be loaded into iTunes and played on the AppleTV. The AppleTV (with firmware 2.3) will note on the screen that the movie is a HD movie by playing a HD logo next to the title.

Note: Tagging the MOV file will support all the same tags as the M4V counterpart with the exception of the MPAA rating. Loosing the MPAA rating logo was a tradeoff for me in order to have an HD movie with Dolby 5.1 sound.

Note: Use can also add an AAC track to the MOV file by using Quicktime. This will allow you to keep a single copy of the movie in the event you have a second and/or third AppleTV (like I do) that is not connected to an audio receiver. The second/third AppleTV is in our master bedroom and the kids play room.

bigggt
23rd December 2008, 01:35
Is there any setting or profile that will work with PSP and the new ipod touch

thanks

~bT~
23rd December 2008, 01:44
the ipod profile has worked for me.

bigggt
23rd December 2008, 02:28
thanks bt but the last time i tried the ipod profile it would not play on the PSP

jamd1
23rd December 2008, 03:01
Does anyone know if the recent PS3 updates have changed codecs that no longer support AAC audio with mp4?
Some of the Early Blurays I converted with ripbot to mp4 no longer play audio on my PS3. They worked fine several months ago???
I only make AVCHD's now.

mmmmdonut
23rd December 2008, 03:09
One thing to point out on Apple TV (version 2.3) and AAC+AC3 is if file is in mp4 format and is missing the AAC stream, then you get no audio.

illestdomer2005
23rd December 2008, 10:05
Great program Atak, but would it be possible to have a mode that lets you select multiple files for batch processing using the same settings? Its just a bit painstaking to have to load each file one at a time for conversion :D

That would be awesome. The lengthy load time as compared to XVID4PSP and Handbrake are really the only negatives about RipBot for me. Of course, how would you handle the crop setting? I guess as long as you selected "automatic" it could just apply that to each individual source...?

Anyhow, I would have loved to quickly set up a bunch of movies to encode over my vacation....and let her rip! ;)

illestdomer2005
23rd December 2008, 10:06
Does anyone know if the recent PS3 updates have changed codecs that no longer support AAC audio with mp4?
Some of the Early Blurays I converted with ripbot to mp4 no longer play audio on my PS3. They worked fine several months ago???
I only make AVCHD's now.

I haven't encoded a file small enough to actually play on the PS3. It still irritates me that we're limited to a max file size of 4GB.

illestdomer2005
23rd December 2008, 10:07
well,
i used ripbot to make a 27GB movie (with a AC3 audio track) to fit ina 25GB blank bluray disc.
I set "2-pass", locksize 23000MB and i left bluray profile 4.0.

Video = perfect
Audio = perfect "BUT Very LOW" i mean the sound level is very low!

maybe i had to set profile 4.1?
some suggestion pls?

thx!

Yeah, the volume is very low for me too...I am unaware of a place to change the level.

hekoheko
23rd December 2008, 13:21
Why doesnt RipBot DO anything, just skips to complete, I know someone asked it before but cant find the post...
I would use ripbot to add black borders to 1920x816 or similar movies to achieve standard blu-ray resolution...

Atak_Snajpera
23rd December 2008, 13:41
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1222910#post1222910

Does anyone know if the recent PS3 updates have changed codecs that no longer support AAC audio with mp4?
Some of the Early Blurays I converted with ripbot to mp4 no longer play audio on my PS3. They worked fine several months ago???
I only make AVCHD's now.
I have no problems with v2.53

Blackwalker
23rd December 2008, 21:02
Yeah, the volume is very low for me too...I am unaware of a place to change the level.

Atak any solution about this? thx!

Atak_Snajpera
23rd December 2008, 21:06
Instead of Copy stream select AC3 640 kbps

wolfbane5
23rd December 2008, 21:13
I've been using RipBot264 (latest version 1.11.5?) recently, creating mkv's of a few movies from my collection. Just recently a problem occurred and it doesn't seem to go away. I've been using the guide posted on videohelp.com to create the mkv's and normally Pass 1 takes 2.5-3.5 hours and Pass 2 takes anywhere from 8-11 hrs, depending on size, length, frames, etc. Anyway, recently I started encoding The Incredible Hulk and instead of taking a few hours for Pass 1, it only took 30 mins. I looked back and it was only giving me 20-30 kbps and about 100 fps. I don't know what happened here, but I also tried encoding Blood Diamond and the same issue came up. Any help would be appreciated.

By the way, I have been using the High@L4.1 profile with 5 Ref frames (no other changes to the profile), if that helps.

Atak_Snajpera
23rd December 2008, 21:20
Do you get picture in Preview?

By the way, I have been using the High@L4.1 profile with 5 Reframes (no other changes to the profile), if that helps.
5 ref frames are probably to high for level 4.1 1080p. However it's ok for 720p.

wolfbane5
23rd December 2008, 22:12
Yes, I do get picture in preview. I'm a bit of a quality nut, hence the 5 Ref frames. Any more than 5, the quality difference is marginal. I've been creating 720p rips, not 1080p just to clarify. Guess I forgot to mention that in my previous post. :S

Atak_Snajpera
23rd December 2008, 22:16
Could you send me sample to www.mediafire.com. I will check if I have the same problem as you

wolfbane5
23rd December 2008, 22:31
sorry if this sounds stupid, but what would you like a sample of?

Atak_Snajpera
23rd December 2008, 22:32
sample of source (.m2ts or .evo) 50MB will be ok

wolfbane5
23rd December 2008, 23:30
ok I have my .m2ts file now (was having some trouble with tsmuxer before), how do i cut 50MB from it?

Atak_Snajpera
23rd December 2008, 23:41
http://neuron2.net/dgsplit/dgsplit10.zip

wolfbane5
24th December 2008, 00:18
ok awesome. here's the 50MB sample: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7d119d997b9a3049d2db6fb9a8902bda

Edit: The sample I included was just the video as I had demuxed the DTS-HD MA and extracted the DTS core before. I decided to retry encoding it with the .m2ts and .dts files. I set everything up and surprisingly, it worked (it's doing pass 1 right now). The problem occurred before when I simply chose the .m2ts from the disc/bdmv/stream folder using RipBot264 and got it to demux the video/audio. Beats me why it happened, but since you're the RipBot264 creator maybe you'll have some strange desire to want to fix it or figure out why it did that... (we can all hope, I suppose) :)

nwg
24th December 2008, 00:29
Instead of Copy stream select AC3 640 kbps

I have always thought it just used the actual audio track in the m2ts when I select copy stream. I have so far used all AC3 640k and one DTS 768k on around 15 discs. What would happen if the track is AC3 640k and I used the AC3 640k setting? I haven't had any problems with low audio but I do use a DD/DTS amp.

Atak_Snajpera
24th December 2008, 00:47
Audio normalization is only available if you re-encode audio. if you don't have problems with volume you should always use COPY STREAM

@wolfbane
remux your 50 MB sample in tsmuxer and check if you can convert new .m2ts . it works on my pc.

nwg
24th December 2008, 00:49
Audio normalization is only available if you re-encode audio. if you don't have problems with volume you should always use COPY STREAM
.

OK, good. I'll stick with copy stream then.

fourbigkids
24th December 2008, 03:38
Hi all.

I've got the latest version of ripbot264 from the first page of this thread. I've downloaded the latest version of ffdshow (ffdshow_rev2527_20081219_clsid.exe - I have also tried ffdshow_rev2527_20081219.exe), and I keep getting the attached error:

The error occurs on each time when I:

Open ripbot264,
Select 'Add',
Browse to, and select a ripped Hd-DVD .evo file,
Select 'No Subtitles' in the 'Select Streams' screen.

Ripbot264, starts analysing the streams, demuxing goes to 2%, 'Gathering information' then appears in the bottom of the active screen, then I get the error. On checking the H drive, the file does not exist.

Appreciate any help to get past this.

Regards,

Allan

Blackwalker
24th December 2008, 05:52
Instead of Copy stream select AC3 640 kbps

solved the "low audio" problem doing this:

- disinstall ffdshow
- clean registry
- restart
- install ffdshow
- used 4.1 BD profile

now video and audio are perfect! finally :D

hope this'll help someone else.

(used the last ffdshow "ffdshow_prebeta6_rev2527_20081219" and no other codec installed, like k-lite etc..)

Blackwalker
24th December 2008, 05:55
...about the True-HD problem,
i used tsmuxer with the "downcovert in AC3" in the audio track.
I know true-HD is better, but audio is good for me!

Atak_Snajpera
24th December 2008, 07:59
- used 4.1 BD profile
read first post

Ripbot264, starts analysing the streams, demuxing goes to 2%, 'Gathering information' then appears in the bottom of the active screen, then I get the error. On checking the H drive, the file does not exist.
show me video - log.txt

sat-jokar
24th December 2008, 08:03
hi Atak_Snajpera ..

i have this error when i run the program

http://i39.tinypic.com/2cicnc5.jpg

what this mean ?

wolfbane5
24th December 2008, 08:12
...about the True-HD problem,
i used tsmuxer with the "downcovert in AC3" in the audio track.
I know true-HD is better, but audio is good for me!

There isn't much support for dts-hd ma and truehd yet - at least if you're playing the file on your computer. AC3 @ 640kbps is good, but for bluray movies, I personally prefer DTS audio tracks. eac3to enables conversion from truehd to dts. You might want to check it out if you're interested.

- disinstall ffdshow

By the way, it's uninstall, not disinstall. :)

fourbigkids
24th December 2008, 08:26
show me video - log.txt

Hi atak. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Based on the following it looks like the issue relates to the Haali muxer. An alternative is offered. I'll give it a go tomorrow. Thanks again. Allan


eac3to v2.78
command line: "C:\Program Files\media players & editors\ripbot\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "D:\movies\reign of fire\FullDisc\DVD_VOLUME\" 1) 3:"H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" 4:"H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac" 2:"H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks, 1:41:58
"pgm"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 12 chapters with names
3: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 2046kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -17ms
5: E-AC3, Japanese, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -25dB, -17ms
6: Subtitle, Japanese
7: Subtitle, Japanese
[a04] The Nero decoder doesn't seem to work, will use libav instead.
Creating file "H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v03] This EVO/VOB file contains authoring faults. Will try to work around that. (263)
[v03] Extracting video track number 3...
[v03] Removing h264 pulldown...
[v03] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a04] Remapping channels...
[a04] Applying RAW/PCM delay...
[a04] Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
[a04] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
Loading white noise (needed for dithering)...
[a04] Creating file "H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac"...
Unfortunately the Haali Muxer cannot handle this source file.
It doesn't contain enough seek/recovery points.
The "-seekToIFrames" option may work around that.
However, using this option may result in artifacts when seeking.
[v03] Waiting for DirectShow decoder thread to finish. Please wait...
Aborted at file position 309559296.

illestdomer2005
24th December 2008, 21:52
There isn't much support for dts-hd ma and truehd yet - at least if you're playing the file on your computer. AC3 @ 640kbps is good, but for bluray movies, I personally prefer DTS audio tracks. eac3to enables conversion from truehd to dts. You might want to check it out if you're interested.



By the way, it's uninstall, not disinstall. :)

If you're doing a 2-pass, I don't know why people keep the DTS or even 640kbps AC3. Maybe the difference it makes for the video is peanuts, but the video quality is much more important for me than the audio. In other words, I can tolerate even 128kbps AAC over a macroblocky, noisy picture.

But hey, one man's trash is another man's treasure ;)

Atak_Snajpera
24th December 2008, 22:20
If you're doing a 2-pass, I don't know why people keep the DTS or even 640kbps AC3. Maybe the difference it makes for the video is peanuts, but the video quality is much more important for me than the audio. In other words, I can tolerate even 128kbps AAC over a macroblocky, noisy picture.
I agree with you at some point. I convert everything to 640 AC3 because I can't hear difference between 2Mbps DTS-HD and AC3 640kbps. I was testing using JLB speakers + Sound Blaster Fatality + Yamaha amplituner couple samples at my friends house and everything sound exactly the same. I really don't understand why some people are so obsessed with DTS-HD @ 2 Mbps or PCM (TrueHD or any lossless format). Backup does not have to be always 1:1 .

for 5.1 AC3@640 Kbps seems optimal for me. Everything below may not sound that good as original track. 128 AAC for stereo may sound as good as mp3 @ 192 kbps.

asarian
25th December 2008, 00:30
I agree with you at some point. I convert everything to 640 AC3 because I can't hear difference between 2Mbps DTS-HD and AC3 640kbps.
Well, you said you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, either. :)

I, on the other hand, can hear a world of difference between 640Kbps AC3 and even 1536Kbps DTS (let alone TrueHD or DTS-MA). It's just a much fuller range, especially the HD audio. It's no comparision, really. I mean, I can listen to the AC3 track and find it quite acceptable, until I switch to the TrueHD track and am swept over by a sea of audio. I even bought a new amp for it, so I can convert the TrueHD and DTS-MA audio to LPCM, and stream em to my PS3 that way at their high bitrates.

I agree, of course, that video quality is more important than the audio. But audio is very important, too. And it's only with the advent of Blu-ray that the industry has finally acknowledged the importance of audio. And I'm the happier for it.

wolfbane5
25th December 2008, 01:15
I personally have very sharp hearing and prefer the DTS audio over AC3 especially with 720p/1080p. For example, when I compared the difference between AC3 640kbps and DTS 1.5 Mbit when watching The Dark Knight, it was a huge difference. The sound felt fuller, especially since I have a 5.1 surround sound system for my computer. For my 720p encodes, I like a balance between video and audio. The video at great quality is priority one, but it shouldn't diminish the fact that audio affects my movie watching experience. I guess each to his/her own - it's why we use video encoding programs - so we can create what we want.

Atak_Snajpera
25th December 2008, 01:23
Well, you said you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, either.
You've seen my examples.

Blackwalker
25th December 2008, 06:36
There isn't much support for dts-hd ma and truehd yet - at least if you're playing the file on your computer. AC3 @ 640kbps is good, but for bluray movies, I personally prefer DTS audio tracks. eac3to enables conversion from truehd to dts. You might want to check it out if you're interested.



By the way, it's uninstall, not disinstall. :)

ops :eek: you are right...its uninstall...my english suck lol :D

ok, maybe dts or true-hd is better...but for me, as Atak say, AC3@640 Kbps seems optimal!


2 questions to Atak:

1) Which component can make the program (RipBot) faster?
a better:

-CPU?
-Hardisk?
-Memory?
-VGA?

i have a q9550 (@at 3.2Mhz), Raptor, 8800 GT 1GB, 4GB DD3 Corsair



and...



2) there is a way to have the "source file" on 1 harddisk and the temp file on another one? (i'd like also to set the output file on a different harddisk!)

thx all and merry christmas to all! :cool:


thx

Atak_Snajpera
25th December 2008, 07:35
1) CPU
2) ripbot264.ini

~bT~
25th December 2008, 11:24
Merry Xmas Atak!

You have done wonders this year! Thank you and God bless!

jtheripper
25th December 2008, 20:01
ops :eek: you are right...its uninstall...my english suck lol :D

ok, maybe dts or true-hd is better...but for me, as Atak say, AC3@640 Kbps seems optimal!


2 questions to Atak:

1) Which component can make the program (RipBot) faster?
a better:

-CPU?
-Hardisk?
-Memory?
-VGA?

i have a q9550 (@at 3.2Mhz), Raptor, 8800 GT 1GB, 4GB DD3 Corsair



and...



2) there is a way to have the "source file" on 1 harddisk and the temp file on another one? (i'd like also to set the output file on a different harddisk!)

thx all and merry christmas to all! :cool:


thx

as atak said the cpu is most important in terms of speed. I see you have a q9550. You are not going to find any CPU much faster than that. I have the same, the only thing you can try is to overclock some more. I got mine at 3.6GHz

nurbs
25th December 2008, 21:00
All of the core i7 cpus should be faster than what he has. The comparison on anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3448&p=18) shows the slowest one (core i7-920; 2.66 GHz) to be about 25% faster (2nd pass) than a QX9770 (3.2 GHz). It would still be about 10% faster if he overclocks to 3.6 GHz. Would be expensive though, requireing a new mainboard and everything.

Blackwalker
25th December 2008, 23:10
thx a lot all for the info!!!

i still have to understand something...:

- how to extract the True-HD Track, using ea3co? i mean the command line is?
- i have to extract the video track with tsremux
- after that, how i'll join audio and video?

thx again! :D

wolfbane5
26th December 2008, 07:44
If you want to extract the video into a .m2ts or .ts file, then you will need tsmuxer/tsremux. If you want to extract the video into a mkv, eac3to can do that for you. I hope madshi adds extraction to .m2ts and .ts in a later revision as that would be helpful. The eac3to wikibook is very helpful with regards to extracting from disc via eac3to. (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Eac3to <--under How-To-Use)

Blackwalker
26th December 2008, 17:36
If you want to extract the video into a .m2ts or .ts file, then you will need tsmuxer/tsremux. If you want to extract the video into a mkv, eac3to can do that for you. I hope madshi adds extraction to .m2ts and .ts in a later revision as that would be helpful. The eac3to wikibook is very helpful with regards to extracting from disc via eac3to. (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Eac3to <--under How-To-Use)

ho well, i know how to extract the video...

sorry maybe i write it bad!

i only need to know the command line, using eac3to, to extract the true-hd audio and then join again with the video one!

I'd write in this way:



after i have extract the video track with tsremux:

- which is the comman line, using ea3co, to extract the True-HD Track and how i'll join audio and video in one file?

ho well, i'll check your link, thx

wolfbane5
27th December 2008, 00:23
tsMuxeR can extract the video and audio into one file for you. Just load the m2ts file from the disc into tsmuxer and check what you want from that file and it will save it all into 1 file for you. Very easy and simple. :)

fourbigkids
27th December 2008, 03:31
Hi all, sorry for the newb query, but I can't work out how to select the "-seekToIFrames" option as mentioned in the extract from the log below:

.......
[a04] Creating file "H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac"...
Unfortunately the Haali Muxer cannot handle this source file.
It doesn't contain enough seek/recovery points.
The "-seekToIFrames" option may work around that.
However, using this option may result in artifacts when seeking.
[v03] Waiting for DirectShow decoder thread to finish. Please wait...
Aborted at file position 309559296.

Appreciate your advice,

Regards,

Allan

Blackwalker
27th December 2008, 05:46
tsMuxeR can extract the video and audio into one file for you. Just load the m2ts file from the disc into tsmuxer and check what you want from that file and it will save it all into 1 file for you. Very easy and simple. :)


thx wolfbane5 for your help, but i know this!
i try to make 2 movie with true-hd audio track,
and the result was bad! so someone suggest me to use ea3co
to extract the true-hd audio track, tsmuxer to extract the video track and then join them.

but i dont know how to do it!

i need to check how to do it! :D

wolfbane5
27th December 2008, 06:14
Oh I see what you're trying to do now. So extract the video track via tsmuxer into a .ts or .m2ts, etc. Navigate to eac3to in the command prompt and enter the following:

eac3to X:\ where X is the letter of your blu-ray/hddvd drive

eac3to will provide you with a list of playlists from the disc. Find under which section the truehd audio track you are looking for is ( 1), 2), etc.) and then add that to the command line you typed before. So it should look like:

eac3to X:\ #) where # is the number of the playlist

Once that command is entered it will show you something like this:

1: chapters
2: video track
3: video/audio track
etc.

Find which number corresponds to the audio track you're looking for. The command line will look like this now:

eac3to X:\ #) *: "audioTrack.thd" where *= track number; audiotrack = the directory where you're saving the truehd audio file and .thd is the file type.

Once you have both the video and audio track, load the video track into tsmuxer, hit append and load the audio track. Make sure both tracks are selected in the check box area and then you can save the file with both video and audio.

All of what I've written here is demonstrated visually near the end of the "How-To-Use" page of the eac3to wikibook located here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Eac3to/How_to_Use.

Famille_CB
27th December 2008, 10:32
Hello,

I import a video file via avisynth with audio in 41kHz.
I choose to encode in ogg, ripbot264 don't let me the choise to resampling the audio (In fact, I don't want to resample).
When ripbot264 finish the encoding, the audio output is in 48kHz.

I can read in the "job1.avs" this:
#AudioSource
audio=DirectShowSource("D:\Encodage Premiere\2008-11-16 01.avs",video=false)
audio=ResampleAudio(audio,48000).

Can you help me to make ripbot doesn't resample my audio?

Thank's.

Atak_Snajpera
27th December 2008, 22:45
is that hard to remove this line from the script??????????
audio=ResampleAudio(audio,48000)

iwens
28th December 2008, 14:26
Let me first apologize if this is already asked before.

I noticed your tool because it mentioned tvix in the change log.

I am looking for an tool to backup my planet earth blue-ray collection to playback on my dvico tvix 4100 with max possible quality (i don't care about the file size). I selected the 4.0 profile but the resulting file was unplayable on my 4100connected to nfs, it slowed down and eventually freezes.

I suspect the max video rate or Max buffer rate, so anyone who already has experience with the dvico tvix 4100 has an clue what to edit in the profile ?

bigggt
28th December 2008, 15:05
I recently got an ipod touch and been having a problem with no sound

i select level 3.0 ipod and 2.0 ct AAC-LC 128 kpbs{abr} which works great but for some reason the last 3 i have done i get 157 kpbs,48 KHz, 5 channels, AAC LC

thanks

edit

Just tried on a second PC and same result 2.0 not working for me in 1.11.5
edit #2
This is just happening with Friends Season 10 dvd's , other files work fine

any suggestions

~bT~
28th December 2008, 16:09
^ its working fine here. post log file.

Let me first apologize if this is already asked before.

I noticed your tool because it mentioned tvix in the change log.

I am looking for an tool to backup my planet earth blue-ray collection to playback on my dvico tvix 4100 with max possible quality (i don't care about the file size). I selected the 4.0 profile but the resulting file was unplayable on my 4100connected to nfs, it slowed down and eventually freezes.

I suspect the max video rate or Max buffer rate, so anyone who already has experience with the dvico tvix 4100 has an clue what to edit in the profile ?
updated firmware?

iwens
28th December 2008, 20:06
^ its working fine here. post log file.


updated firmware?

I already upgraded to the latest firmware but no availl i already did some conversions from that title but from the hd-dvd title i also own, in the past with megui. I managed to get some perfect copies at 720p 11mbs files. The files where 4gig large for 51 min content.

But i found the program terrible complex, and cannot really remember how i did it and what i am doing wrong this time. I tried to compare the settings, but i only could find that i setted vbv-bufsize to -1. But not even shure what that does.

So i loaded the hd-dvd title in ripbot, i selected the episode plains. At 1:55 an bird hovers in the screen, followed by an highly complex slide over grass. In vlc media player the bitrate exceeds 25 mbs in that piece, but play's perfect on my pc. On the dvico the player reboot's at the exact same spot.

Even when i lower the max buffer and max bitrate to 20mb/s it still does that. The log files below are from the editted profile file.

So i think i need an setting that limit's the max bitrate to an exact value, i had hoped the settings below would do that but i still see some parts in the movie that have an higher bitrate then 20mbps


--level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 20000 --vbv-maxrate 20000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim


[JobSettings]
VideoFile=D:\DiSC 3\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB001.EVO
VideoCodec=vc1
VideoWidth=1920
VideoHeight=1080
VideoAspectRatio=16:9
VideoProfile=TVIX 4100 buf 20 max 20
SourceFPS=23,976
MovieFPS=23,976
FPSinGUI=23,976
SourceNumberOfFrames=73387
SourceMovieLength=3060,85251918585
CurrentMovieLength=3060,85251918585
SourceAudioLength=3060,864
Frames=73387
Duration=0:51:0,853
Mode=CQ
kbps=18
AudioFile=D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job2\audio.1.ac3
AudioFileSize=171408384
AudioCodec=ac3
AudioBPS=448000
AudioProfile=x.x C O P Y S T R E A M
Frequency=48000
Channels=6
DurationAudio=0:51:0,864
AudioLength=3060,864
Normalize=OFF
AudioDelay=0
Output=D:\Test 1 buff 20 max 20 24p.mkv
Container=mkv
LockSize=0
Size=541
Deinterlace=Do not deinterlace
Crop=Do not crop
CropTop=0
CropBottom=0
CropLeft=0
CropRight=0
Resize=HD-Ready 1280x720 [1,78:1]
ResX=1280
ResY=720
Decimate=Do not decimate
Colors=Do not change colors
hue=0
sat=1
bright=0
cont=1
subtitles=Do not use subtitles
subtitleFileSize=0
path=
Denoise=Do not denoise
AssumeFPS=Do not change

eac3to v2.78
command line: "C:\Program Files\RipBot264v1.11.5\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "D:\DiSC 3\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB001.EVO" 1:"D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job2\video.mkv" 2:"D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job2\audio.1.ac3" 3:"D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job2\subtitle.1.sup" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 3 subtitle tracks, 0:51:00
1: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
2: AC3, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
3: Subtitle
4: Subtitle
5: Subtitle
[v01] Extracting video track number 1...
[v01] Removing VC-1 pulldown...
[v01] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a02] Extracting audio track number 2...
[a02] Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
[a02] Creating file "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job2\audio.1.ac3"...
[s03] Extracting subtitle track number 3...
[s03] Creating file "D:\temp\RipBot264temp\job2\subtitle.1.sup"...
Added fps value to MKV header.
Video track 1 contains 73388 frames.
eac3to processing took 8 minutes, 32 seconds.
Done.

~bT~
28th December 2008, 20:34
^ u have used cq mode 18, that seems like the issue. try lower cq 22 or do 2 pass encodes.

iwens
28th December 2008, 21:08
^ u have used cq mode 18, that seems like the issue. try lower cq 22 or do 2 pass encodes.

Ok i have them running now with cq 22, will update with results.

From an quality stand, what is best cq 22 or 2 pass encodes , when u do not care about file size ?

iwens
28th December 2008, 21:20
All profiles use AQ ( 0.5 and 5) AQ raises bitrate in dark and blue areas to prevent blocking therefore size is bigger in CQ mode.

As the dvico crashes when an single bird is diplayed with an large blue area (sky) i suspect this could also have something to do with it.

Dark Shikari
28th December 2008, 21:27
As the dvico crashes when an single bird is diplayed with an large blue area (sky) i suspect this could also have something to do with it.AQ does not and never had any relation to color.

iwens
28th December 2008, 21:36
Ok thnx for correction i qouted this from the outhor of ripbot264 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1080872#post1080872 So i asumed it was correct.

But many thnx for the info, guess it indeed is the cq value.

Atak_Snajpera
28th December 2008, 22:00
iwens
You should leave default CRF factor at 22. if this does not work either use 2-pass mode.

iwens
28th December 2008, 22:21
iwens
You should leave default CRF factor at 22. if this does not work either use 2-pass mode.

I am currently running an pass with crf at 22 will update if this is indeed the solution.

I also wanted to test the 2pass method, but i am prob missing something obvious but i cannot seem to select 2pass. I do see the option's when it's demuxing the files after the initial selection but after that i only see this.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~iwens/images/ripbot.gif

Atak_Snajpera
28th December 2008, 22:32
I do see the option's when it's demuxing the files after the initial selection but after that i only see this.
You didn't even bother to look for the option. The answer to your question is exactly on your screenshot :)

iwens
28th December 2008, 22:38
Ah lol found it :o thnx must have been blind :)

Atak_Snajpera
28th December 2008, 23:08
i select level 3.0 ipod and 2.0 ct AAC-LC 128 kpbs{abr} which works great but for some reason the last 3 i have done i get 157 kpbs,48 KHz, 5 channels, AAC LC
It looks like that decoder sees only 5 channels instead of 6. Can i get a sample? (.vob i assume)

bigggt
28th December 2008, 23:50
thanks Atak_Snajpera

It is a.vob and it has 5 channels



http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=db479e78a9b36830d2db6fb9a8902bda

Atak_Snajpera
29th December 2008, 00:40
This episode (season) was encoded by some stupid f*****!!! Why on earth audio has only 5 channels if other seasons have proper number of channels!?!?

Ajax_Undone
29th December 2008, 06:03
LOL five haahahaha! LMAO oh ok well This is really screw'd up...

Gspot
0xbd[0x80]:48000Hz 448 kb/s tot , 5 chnls (3/2)

jamd1
29th December 2008, 07:05
I'm having trouble using ripbot on Galapagos Bluray. The .m2ts files are level 3, 1920x1080 interlaced at 29.97 framerate. Ripbot seemingly demuxes the files ok - but when it comes to gathering information the program hangs and media player tries to open with no message - There is no log produced by ripbot after closing. I don't remember trying a level 3 file before - I have tried several versions of ripbot , starting with the latest one. All give the same results. Any help appreciated.

Atak_Snajpera
29th December 2008, 07:58
go to ffdshow -> Codecs -> VC-1 -> change libavcodec to wmv9
Unfortunately libavcodec do not support interlaced vc-1

Blackwalker
29th December 2008, 08:02
Oh I see what you're trying to do now. So extract the video track via tsmuxer into a .ts or .m2ts, etc. Navigate to eac3to in the command prompt and enter the following:

eac3to X:\ where X is the letter of your blu-ray/hddvd drive

eac3to will provide you with a list of playlists from the disc. Find under which section the truehd audio track you are looking for is ( 1), 2), etc.) and then add that to the command line you typed before. So it should look like:

eac3to X:\ #) where # is the number of the playlist

Once that command is entered it will show you something like this:

1: chapters
2: video track
3: video/audio track
etc.

Find which number corresponds to the audio track you're looking for. The command line will look like this now:

eac3to X:\ #) *: "audioTrack.thd" where *= track number; audiotrack = the directory where you're saving the truehd audio file and .thd is the file type.

Once you have both the video and audio track, load the video track into tsmuxer, hit append and load the audio track. Make sure both tracks are selected in the check box area and then you can save the file with both video and audio.

All of what I've written here is demonstrated visually near the end of the "How-To-Use" page of the eac3to wikibook located here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Eac3to/How_to_Use.

tyvm for your "clear" answer! :goodpost:
i'll try it

thx again an have a nice new year...! :D

iwens
29th December 2008, 08:16
An little update

So i tried to recode as suggested the episode plains of my hd-dvd planet earth with crf setting 22. But it also crashes my dvico at the same exact spot, the file size is half of the setting crf 18 namely 2gb for 51 min 720p. But the dvico reboots at exact the same spot.

Also the quality was dissapointing, as the crf 18 encode is far superior quality wise (if i skip the bad spot i can watch it for like 10 min befor an other freeze). So running an 2pass encode now to see how the quality will be.

But at default settings ripbot264 doesn't produce an playable file for the dvico tvix4100 which is rather strange becouse it's rather good at it and i never had such trouble's befor.

Also i do have 5 episode's at 4 gig size for 51 min which i encoded with megui some 6 months ago which do play flawless on my dvico.

Will update when the 2pass encode's finish.

jamd1
29th December 2008, 09:01
go to ffdshow -> Codecs -> VC-1 -> change libavcodec to wmv9
Unfortunately libavcodec do not support interlaced vc-1

Great Thx for that - works great now.

Adub
29th December 2008, 09:12
@iwens,

This probably has to do with the the fact that it is a hardware player, and the problem with crf is that it can go over the VBV buffer or the maximum VBV bitrate, which is probably causing your problems. If you encode with a two pass encode and make sure that your buffer and vbv maximum bitrate are in spec, then you should have no problems.

The safe rule of thumb when encoding for standalones is to use 2 pass with the proper buffer and vbv maximum bitrate specified.

bigggt
29th December 2008, 13:25
This episode (season) was encoded by some stupid f*****!!! Why on earth audio has only 5 channels if other seasons have proper number of channels!?!?

Well that sucks, my son bought these dvd's mostly to put on his ipod

does anyone know if the rest of the friends Seasons are ok.

god_md5
29th December 2008, 17:31
Atak_Snajpera can you add more aac bitrate ?
i make the youtube 720p is not work for 128kbps, only over 256kbps is work..
http://dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=154352

wolfbane5
29th December 2008, 17:39
@iwens

Personally, I prefer 2-pass encodes since the end result is more polished, despite it taking longer. If you are looking to create 720p quality encodes using the 2-pass method, I would suggest using a minimum of 4 Mbps bit rate.

iwens
29th December 2008, 19:16
@iwens,

This probably has to do with the the fact that it is a hardware player, and the problem with crf is that it can go over the VBV buffer or the maximum VBV bitrate, which is probably causing your problems. If you encode with a two pass encode and make sure that your buffer and vbv maximum bitrate are in spec, then you should have no problems.

The safe rule of thumb when encoding for standalones is to use 2 pass with the proper buffer and vbv maximum bitrate specified.

I indeed ran my succesfull first conversion with ripbot264. I made an 2 pass 8mbit 720p movie (3,1gb for 51 min ) which ran flawless on my dvico. So i am now upping the bitrate to see where it will end.

2pass seems indeed the way to go with the dvico, becouse even if the file is 1,5 times larger then the crf22 encoded file it ran perfect on my dvico. The crf22 file rebooted my player after 1,5 min.

Atak_Snajpera
29th December 2008, 20:02
So i am now upping the bitrate to see where it will end.
According to my knowledge tivix supports up to HP@Level 4.0 so maximum bitrate will be 25000 kbps.

iwens
29th December 2008, 20:17
According to my knowledge tivix supports up to HP@Level 4.0 so maximum bitrate will be 25000 kbps.


Yes they indeed claim this to be true, but they do not specify from which media, i do not have an internal harddisk in my dvico so i play all file's from my nas with nfs.

I cued the file as 25 22 20 18 16 14 12 10 8 mbps to see what is max bitrate vs picture quality. My c2duo6600 oc 3,5ghz chews rather quickly thru them.

Will update which max bitrate will play correctly on my dvico with nfs from an nas.

Atak_Snajpera
29th December 2008, 20:23
I cued the file as 25 22 20 18 16 14 12 10 8 mbps to see what is max bitrate vs picture quality
720p @ 6 Mbps and 1080p @ 12 Mbps has never disappointed me in terms of quality.

vman9999
29th December 2008, 21:02
Hi.

I'm getting an error on Ripbot of (Failed to get data for 'mpg1'). Can anyone help?

8ternity
29th December 2008, 23:39
Hi Atak,

Im getting an error with ripbot when try to preview to theses settings:

- 1080P, filter FILM, preview with media player classic fail to open fft3dGPU.dll at line 29.

Try: AVIsynth 2.5.7, 2.5.8 RC5,
Latest 1.11.5 and previous 1.11.3,
try: ffdshow latest 2475, 2405

Still getting that error and the conversion start with muxing the project.
http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/Other/error_ripbot1115.jpg

Can you help me please?

Hardware:
AMD 64x2 6400+
4GB DDR2 800MHZ
ATI HD 3870 512MB DX10

Thanks, and happy new year :) :)

Atak_Snajpera
29th December 2008, 23:58
Try to install latest drivers and DirectX (november) http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/DirectX-9.0c-Redistributable.shtml

Bajunid
30th December 2008, 04:36
Atak..any chance having ASS or SSA subs being supported?

EDIT: got it..there are two subs support, one in built-in pic and another external...Thanks!..I'm super happy now...

vman9999
30th December 2008, 06:17
Hi.

I'm getting an error on Ripbot of (Failed to get data for 'mpg1'). Can anyone help?

I solved this on my own... I just re-installed ffdshow and everything worked fine.

vman9999
30th December 2008, 06:19
Question...

Can anyone tell me how I can re-direct RipBot to utilize 64bit codecs? I am using Vista 64 and I wanted to take full advantage of the processing power.

Thanks.

deets
30th December 2008, 10:20
Question...

Can anyone tell me how I can re-direct RipBot to utilize 64bit codecs? I am using Vista 64 and I wanted to take full advantage of the processing power.

Thanks.

you cant :) dont worry about it.

if your really interested you can find a cli version of x264 64 bit and go from there

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143539

but that wont use ripbot at all.

Nemesis7
31st December 2008, 00:45
Can someone help me out here please? I've been struggling with selectable subtitles for a while now. Is it possible to alter mp4box to change the 'text' subtype into 'sbtl' when adding .ttxt files as subtitles? If so how (where in the source). That would enable the subs on the iPhone. The problem is that I don't know how to code in c++ (java only)

@Atak_Snajpera: I asked about selectable subtitles before, but it seemed to be ignored. Can/will you make this available in a next build of RipBot? Thanks a lot mate.

simbot41
31st December 2008, 05:14
Hi all

Noobie questions but I waited my five days and came back :)

Using ripbot to backup my hd-dvds for playback on Ps3 (packed htpc in and went with playtv/ps3 combo)


Ok 3 Questions

1. If I were to drop a quad core AMD 9550 into my machine will this speed up the process (ie half it) it took 16 hours to do Happy Feet this was on a dual core 4600 Am2
2. I am not worried about file size. What setting should I select to pretty much retain video as is, no compression, but speed up as much as possible?
3. Can I retain DTS HD/TrueHD using Ripbot.

Great program by the way, I spent days trying to work out how this was done and used all programs eac3to, tsmuxer, megui etc.

This is much much easier :)

wolfbane5
31st December 2008, 07:12
Hi all

Noobie questions but I waited my five days and came back :)

Using ripbot to backup my hd-dvds for playback on Ps3 (packed htpc in and went with playtv/ps3 combo)


Ok 3 Questions

1. If I were to drop a quad core AMD 9550 into my machine will this speed up the process (ie half it) it took 16 hours to do Happy Feet this was on a dual core 4600 Am2
2. I am not worried about file size. What setting should I select to pretty much retain video as is, no compression, but speed up as much as possible?
3. Can I retain DTS HD/TrueHD using Ripbot.

Great program by the way, I spent days trying to work out how this was done and used all programs eac3to, tsmuxer, megui etc.

This is much much easier :)

1. I doubt the quad core will help with the encoding since ripbot hasn't been optimized for quad core support.

2. When you re-encode videos, you lose quality. If you don't care about file size and want to retain video as is, there's really no point in encoding any of the hd-dvd's. You could simply create a .ts/.m2ts file with the video/audio tracks you want and then burn it to disc or play it on your tv.

simbot41
31st December 2008, 07:32
H iwolfbane thanks for the reply.

I thought I read somewhere that Ripbot was optimised to take advantage of as many cores as were avaialable to 100%.

I have tried doing a straight conversion to m2ts, but I must convert the VC1 based video into something the Ps3 can play off the xmb/strema through tversity. How would you do it as I have had no luck whatsoever

deets
31st December 2008, 10:54
H iwolfbane thanks for the reply.

I thought I read somewhere that Ripbot was optimised to take advantage of as many cores as were avaialable to 100%.

I have tried doing a straight conversion to m2ts, but I must convert the VC1 based video into something the Ps3 can play off the xmb/strema through tversity. How would you do it as I have had no luck whatsoever

x264 is very capable of taking advantage of more cores so in theory it should help considerably. all ripbot does is create the commands for the other bits to run, it in itself wont be affected by cores, just the progs it passes it info onto.

i dont know about that specific cpu but my q6600 is great little chip for x264 which is what takes up most of the time.

as for your other questions, in a basic way, with 264 quicker time means a potential drop in quality. One way is to use CRF mode, purely as its one pass, so you cut out the 2 pass system. its ideal if you want a set quality and not too fussed about file size. Trial and error is good on that one. chose a smallish clip of say 30 mins and test on that to get an idea of the end quality at each setting.

Atak_Snajpera
31st December 2008, 11:26
I doubt the quad core will help with the encoding since ripbot hasn't been optimized for quad core support.
BUT encoding engine (x264) is optimized for multicores !!! More cores always means faster encoding (2X , 4X)


If I were to drop a quad core AMD 9550 into my machine will this speed up the process (ie half it) it took 16 hours to do Happy Feet this was on a dual core 4600 Am2
Instead of AMD 9550 2,2Ghz I would buy Q6600 2,4 Ghz . It can be overclocked very easly to at least 3Ghz. I have Q6600@3ghz and it's rock stable! All you need is to change fsb to 333. You don't have to raise cpu voltage and you don't have to buy extra cooling system! I doubt that you will achieve the same result on amd cpu.

iwens
31st December 2008, 12:47
So i finished my 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 mbit/s encode's.

The goal was to get max quality from my setup, i use an dvico tvix 4100 as playback source on an panasonic 37pv70 hd ready plasma. The dvico is connected by lan with nfs. For test purpose my nas was replaced by main comp so throughput is not an issue.

This are the provisionary results for the episode plains of my blue-ray planet earth. The source is 51 min filesize 7,7 gb 1920 x 1080.

Crf 18 Size 4,4 Gb Player reboots after 1,30 min Quality Excelent
crf 20 Size 3,2 Gb Player reboots after 1,15 min Quality ok
Crf 18 Size 2,1 Gb Player reboots after 1,30 min Qualty poor
2p 8 Mbs Size 3,1 Gb Play's perfect Quality ok
2p 10 Mbs Size 3,8 Gb Play's perfect Quality Good
2p 12 Mbs Size 4,4 Gb Player reboots after 8 min Quality Excelent
2p 14 Mbs Size 5,1 Gb Player reboots after 8 min Quality excelent
2p 16 Mbs Size 5,8 Gb Player Reboots after 1 min Quality Excelent
2p 18 Mbs Size 6,4 Gb Player Reboots after 1 min Quality excelent
2p 20 Mbs Size 7,1 Gb Player Reboots after 1 min Quality excelent


My conclusion for the dvico tvix 4100 without an hd is: encode with profile 4.0 standalone 2 pass 10Mbps 720p. This will give the best picture the dvico lan connected can handle with nfs.

As i only encoded 1 episode which is of course not much of an test so it could be that 10mbs is also just an bit to much on some content.

I also will experiment an bit with the profile's max bitrate an buff size to see if this can help playing the higher bitrate's.
I will update if i get the results.

Also i have to say that i find the recommended crf 22 settings very poor, picture quality is clearly lacking in this mode. Resizing an 7,7 gb 1080p to 2,1 gb 720 p is asking to much from the codec and u will notice an significant quality degrade.

Atak_Snajpera
31st December 2008, 12:54
2p 12 Mbs Size 4,4 Gb Player reboots after 8 min Quality Excelent
2p 14 Mbs Size 5,1 Gb Player reboots after 8 min Quality excelent
2p 16 Mbs Size 5,8 Gb Player Reboots after 1 min Quality Excelent
2p 18 Mbs Size 6,4 Gb Player Reboots after 1 min Quality excelent
2p 20 Mbs Size 7,1 Gb Player Reboots after 1 min Quality excelent


I would contact tivix support and ask them why device reboots!?

Also i have to say that i find the recommended crf 22 settings very poor, picture quality is clearly lacking in this mode.
Show us screenshots and we will judge!

Does it look like bad quality for you now? 720p CRF22 (average bitrate 3782 kbps)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ndutml

This are the provisionary results for the episode plains of my blue-ray planet earth.
I have also planet earth on Blu-Ray. Tell me which episode did you encode? I will do few tests.

iwens
31st December 2008, 13:43
Tvix support is sadly non excisting, after an great start they are lacking support majorly now. After going thru the same thing with my kiss player i wonder if there ever will be an player released with good support.

This said the profile is just an guide line, they say it support's it but don't state from what media.

I encoded the episode great plains it's on disc 3.

As for the quality issue i guess i have to explain it an little bit more, as i could show u screenshots which will absolutely mean nothing to anyone's other setup.

With my setup sitting about 4 meters from an 37" plasma i and my family could clearly notice the difference. But the difference will be greater or less depending on the quality of the components.

If u look at it from an technical view point u get (1280x720p) / (1920x1080) X 7,7 gb u will need an minimum of 3,4 gb to be able to get at least the same bitrate. Also u exclude the quality difference then from the recode. At crf 18 u get an 4,4 gb file an bit larger that to some extent will compensate for the recode, i had an really hard time to tell the difference then, it's almost transparent.

When u have an player which support's this i would recomend this setting it's rather fast encode and quality is excelent.

But if u will see this will depend greatly on your setup.

Atak_Snajpera
31st December 2008, 14:27
Does it look like bad quality for you now? 720p CRF22 (average bitrate 3782 kbps)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ndutml
Do you see compression artifacts? I don't! I am sitting 1 meter from 19'' widescreen LCD monitor...

if there ever will be an player released with good support.
popcorn hour (http://www.popcornhour.com)

iwens
31st December 2008, 19:27
Do you see compression artifacts? I don't! I am sitting 1 meter from 19'' widescreen LCD monitor...]

Yes An lot actualy , made an little example: Frame 15007 great plains disc 3 planet earth

First 22 crf lot's of artifacts

http://www.xs4all.nl/~iwens/images/22crf.jpg

Then 18 crf better

http://www.xs4all.nl/~iwens/images/18crf.jpg[/IMG]

Then 16mb 2 pass still some artifacts but an lot cleaner.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~iwens/images/16mb.jpg

[URL="http://www.popcornhour.com"]popcorn hour[/URL


yeah i followed this an long time ago already, at mpcclub. At the moment of the release of the popcorn dvico was highly recommended

simbot41
1st January 2009, 04:20
Hey thanks all for the replies

Atak I have had to make do with the parts that I have (got a Samsung 46inch 1080p tv, Sony muteki sound system and a ps3 :)) so AMD it will have to be. But that is good news re encoding engine.

So just my last two questions

3. Can I retain DTS HD/TrueHD using Ripbot.
4. What are the best settings for a straight swap from VC1 to x264 to use on PS3 (filesize is not an issue tveristy will transfer a 18gb blu ray to ps3 hdd not a problem)

Cheers

Dark Shikari
1st January 2009, 04:24
Yes An lot actualy , made an little example:

First 22 crf lot's of artifactsAre you sure you're using a compliant H.264 decoder? The first image looks like you have in-loop deblocking disabled or something.

~bT~
1st January 2009, 05:44
Are you sure you're using a compliant H.264 decoder? The first image looks like you have in-loop deblocking disabled or something.

he said he could see the artefacts on his telly..using his tvix.

juGGaKNot
1st January 2009, 08:30
Added: support for .mov (it will not work with installed QUICKTIME!)

You the man!

Hope the suport for 2 audio tracks is also on the list :P

@bT is this SATA ?

iwens
1st January 2009, 08:52
Are you sure you're using a compliant H.264 decoder? The first image looks like you have in-loop deblocking disabled or something.

Edit:

Thnx for the tip, i rechecked it all an it seems vlcmedia player isn't or at least the screen shot feature isn't not shure. But the difference was greater with vlc mediaplayer, also i noticed it ddidn't use the ffdshow plugin. So i made the screenshots again with mpc and ffdshow. And updated the screenshots.

I never had thought of such an big difference in playback software.

It still show's clearly btw the quality loss i notice with crf 22.

the profile i used has the following commands: --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

This is the standalone profile from ripbot264


It's an clean system only windows xp and the ripbot required file's.

As for he artifacts when the movie moves it is less noticeable, but i am personally not suprised there are artifact's the 16 mb 2 pass file is 3 times the size of the 22 crf. And even the 16 mb has some artifact's problem's.

Btw alway's open to suggestions how to improve quality even more (-:

I still feel if u will see his will depend on your setup, but i clearly can see the difference on mine.

Ajax_Undone
1st January 2009, 09:33
Installer updated. Um Atak I have not tested whether or not AVISynth 2.5.8 works with this I figure it does. So that's what I packed with this installer.

juGGaKNot
1st January 2009, 10:44
Installer updated. Um Atak I have not tested whether or not AVISynth 2.5.8 works with this I figure it does. So that's what I packed with this installer.

Can i use 2.5.8 ? 2.5.7 is not mandatory ?

deets
1st January 2009, 11:36
fast download link :)

http://delivery-102.vipeers.com/file_sharing?message_hash=484876444a6c74416673643432367537446c553251773d3d&locale=en

iwens
1st January 2009, 12:14
tesa motion algorithm

What does this exactly do, and when to use ?

Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 12:35
If you have plenty of time you can use these settings.
http://pix.nofrag.com/2/6/a/6dcad6f0194e3fb84fc056159331f.bmp (http://pix.nofrag.com/2/6/a/6dcad6f0194e3fb84fc056159331f.html)

Encoding speed will be veeerrrryyy sloooowwww.

iwens
1st January 2009, 13:03
Ah thank u, running on that setting now, as i could care less about encoding time :).

Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 14:04
Hope the suport for 2 audio tracks is also on the list :P
Two main problems:
1) My lack of motivation for two audio streams (My main enemy:). I really prefer original audio (chinese in Shoalin Soccer for example) with subtitles instead of dubbed version. I don't care about director's comments either.
2) My initial predictions show that blu-ray size calculation will be very difficult to create for 2 audio streams. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think about it at the moment.

simbot41
1st January 2009, 14:45
Ok so can Ripbot maintain TrueHD.

Eg converted file, when played on Ps3 will report Truehd as the audio.

Great program, jsut struggling.

Have tried all convoluted methods all I want is HD video and HD audio for PS3 from my predominantly Vc1 TrueHD movie library

~bT~
1st January 2009, 14:57
what does the bit in bold mean?

Added: support for .mov (it will not work with installed QUICKTIME!)

@ Ajax_Undone

does 2.5.8 support MT?

Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 15:31
quicktime player installs its own shitty splitter and h.264 decoder (shitty as well) .

~bT~
1st January 2009, 15:45
^ do u recommend i uninstall it? or something else..?

Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 15:59
If you have Haali Media Splitter and ffdshow you don't need anything else. Friend of mine accidentally installed itunes with quicktime player and suddenly we discovered that all .mov files (FullHD Baseline 5.1@30Mbps) from his Canon EOS 5D Mark II are jerky (Quad core@4GHz!!!). I tried to reinstall Haali and ffdshow and still nothing. I even tried MPC-HC with all enabled internall splitters/decoders - nothing! Everything went to normal after removing evil quicktime player.

~bT~
1st January 2009, 16:39
^itunes will not start without QT.. what a load of tosh!

bigggt
1st January 2009, 17:10
^itunes will not start without QT.. what a load of tosh!

I'm also in this situation, i know someone will say use something like Floola(which i love) but i don't think there is any alternatives to itunes for the ipod touch yet

thanks for the new version and all your hard work Atak_Snajpera

laserfan
1st January 2009, 17:13
^itunes will not start without QT.. what a load of tosh!
iTunes is awfully popular, as is (of course!) the iPod, but I have always found iTunes and QuickTime to be horrible resource hogs and priority-grabbers. They're both completely gone from my PCs...

~bT~
1st January 2009, 17:13
^ you're right. floola doesn't support touch..yet.

Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 17:15
Ok guys FALSE ALARM! Sorry for that. It looks like that QuickTime Codecs/Splitter are not used in AviSynth (DirectShowSource). Haali and FFdshow are loaded correctly!
I will correct first post!

priority-grabbers
TRUE! TRUE! TRUE! I still don't understand why buildin splitters and codecs in MPC-HC are not active when playing .mov files. It does not matter what I will do always quicktime components are in use!!! WEIRD! WEIRD! WEIRD! Luckly I'm PSP user so I don't need this shit!

bigggt
1st January 2009, 18:40
Added: support for weird 5 channel audio (always downmixed to stereo)

Thanks for this , my son will be very happy

almost missed it:)

vman9999
1st January 2009, 19:26
m4v = mp4
and
m4a = mp4

Thanks for this reponse.

Can anyone please tell me how I can add an AC3 audio track to an mp4 (for Apple TV) created by ripbot?

I stripped out the AC3 track but I am having trouble combining them and it sounds like I will have to create an m4v or a mov file to support this.

Thanks again.

eyekyu
1st January 2009, 21:19
sorry i havent been on here for a long time, is ur app or another able to add multiple titles to a single 25gb bd-r?

Atak_Snajpera
1st January 2009, 22:03
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

survivant001
1st January 2009, 22:22
thanks for this New Year present :)

juGGaKNot
2nd January 2009, 12:41
If you have plenty of time you can use these settings.
http://pix.nofrag.com/2/6/a/6dcad6f0194e3fb84fc056159331f.bmp (http://pix.nofrag.com/2/6/a/6dcad6f0194e3fb84fc056159331f.html)

Encoding speed will be veeerrrryyy sloooowwww.

I used these setting :

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/rip_settings_old.jpg

And i will now use :

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/rip_settings_new.jpg

The problem is that i also have a tutorial for other people to use

http://www.pgl.ro/forum/showpost.php?p=962191&postcount=15

Is my "advice" k or should i remake the preset ?

Also i get this error when i open any AVI clips with PCM audio.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/rip_error_new.jpg

Thnx.

iwens
2nd January 2009, 13:13
Could i ask u why do u uncheck avchd option ?

juGGaKNot
2nd January 2009, 13:24
Could i ask u why do u uncheck avchd option ?

Movies are max 720P and only mp4 and mkv render

mainly games movies ( counter strike and others )

i read it is for blu-ray, do not need it.

iwens
2nd January 2009, 13:49
Well i used the new settings and the file is an bit smaller but the quality is excelent.

I would love to use these settings, but sadly the dvico will not play it and reboot after 1:30 min even when i try to play it from connected usb drive. Bit at loss why to be honest.

Default settings 10mb 2pass

http://www.xs4all.nl/~iwens/images/10mbdef.jpg

Very slow settings Atak suggested encoding time 8hours on c2d6600 3,5 ghz for 51 min episode.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~iwens/images/10mbhq.jpg

eyekyu
2nd January 2009, 17:11
thx atak for the link

iwens, is that using the 4.1 profile?

iwens
2nd January 2009, 17:18
thx atak for the link

iwens, is that using the 4.1 profile?

No i used level 4.0 profile

greggerm
2nd January 2009, 19:30
I've been wracking my brain trying to wrap it around the Blu-Ray ripping process, and I've hit a stumbling block that I need some pointers on, and RipBot is in the mix.

I am attempting to rip down and re-encode "David Gilmour: Remember That Night", a concert disc. It's my first Bluray purchase, and I'm looking to get it ripped down to use it "sans disc" on my HTPC. I'd be happy with a playable .TS file, however the ultimate goal is a MP4/MKV with a little of the bitrate shaved off the top. I chose a great first one to buy, as it is giving me fits with the reencoding.

It is a VC-1 disc, with DolbyHD, in 1080i resolution. (yes, 1080 interlaced - the concert was shot in video, not film). Using AnyDVD HD, I ripped the disc to my hard drive, and that's where the fun begins.

I have determined that it is a branching disc, making it more difficult. 00001.m2ts, 00003.m2ts, and 00002.m2ts make up the appropriate playlist. RipBot senses this and appears to set up things appropriately for the demux and encode.

I can get through the process of remuxing and reencoding the data, however the resultant video is playing back very much out of sync with the slow-motion video. In all cases, the audio sounds just fine - but the video is woefully slow and logically, the audio is instantly out of sync.

I've read about framerate issues in various Internet threads on bluray rips, but nothing ever offered symptoms or solutions. Could it be the interlacing? The incorrect FPS settings? Bad demuxing? It's a tricky disc, to be certain.

I'm pretty sure it's not the fault of Ripbot or even the other muxing tools I've played with - it has to be a setting on my part I am not using correctly. I haven't found the internet posting yet that sets me straight. Can anyone point this true layman in the right direction for understanding how to defeat this particular type of problem?

-Greg

(*oh how I miss the halcyon days of ripping down my standard DVD collection... rip, click, done!)

~bT~
2nd January 2009, 19:33
^ new F/W avail for tvix i hear..

Atak_Snajpera
2nd January 2009, 21:36
@greggerm
What cpu do you have? What player do you use? If you have at least decent dual core install ffdshow MT (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245&release_id=523000)

iwens
2nd January 2009, 21:48
^ new F/W avail for tvix i hear..

Yeah but again only for the 6500.

mikelebron
2nd January 2009, 22:06
Question.. I have all my DVDs already ripped to my hard drive BUT I kept them in the DVD format (multiple VOBs, etc.). I want to use RipBot but it only supports single VOBs. What tool do you recommend in editing/joining the VOBs into a single file with NO re-encoding to get it ready for RipBot?

Thanks

greggerm
2nd January 2009, 22:09
@greggerm
What cpu do you have? What player do you use? If you have at least decent dual core install ffdshow MT (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245&release_id=523000)

I've attempted encodes and playback on both a C2D 6420 and a C2D 8600. Playback has been handled by ZoomPlayer on both machines. On those same machines, other full-size (1080p) high def files do play successfully, so I am leaning more toward having to tweak the demux/encode settings versus the computers not being able to keep up.

Here's a look at some of the files from the process:

Blueray Structure File, showing the playlist source for the encode...

eac3to v2.78
command line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\RipBot264v1.11.5\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "F:\GILMOUR_REMEMBER_D1\"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) 00002.mpls, 00000.m2ts+00003.m2ts+00001.m2ts, 2:32:17
- VC-1, 1080i60 /1.001 (16:9)
- RAW/PCM, English, stereo, 48khz
- TrueHD, English, multi-channel, 48khz

As an experiment with FPS settings, I'm running an encode right now with the following job.ini resulting...

{JobSettings}
VideoFile=F:\GILMOUR_REMEMBER_D1\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
VideoCodec=vc1
VideoWidth=1920
VideoHeight=1080
VideoAspectRatio=16:9
VideoProfile=[ level 4.0 ] HD . BluRay . Consoles
SourceFPS=29.97
MovieFPS=23.976
FPSinGUI=23.976
SourceNumberOfFrames=273838
SourceMovieLength=9137.07040373707
CurrentMovieLength=9137.0954287621
SourceAudioLength=9137.088
Frames=219071
Duration=2:32:17.095
Mode=CQ
kbps=22
AudioFile=C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.ac3
AudioFileSize=584773632
AudioCodec=ac3
AudioBPS=512000
AudioProfile=5.1 CT AAC-LC 256 kbps [abr]
Frequency=48000
Channels=6
DurationAudio=2:32:17.088
AudioLength=9137.088
Normalize=OFF
AudioDelay=0
Output=U:\2992deinterlace23FPSAssumed.mp4
Container=mp4
LockSize=0
Size=1686
Deinterlace=Top Field First -> 29.97 FPS
Crop=Do not crop
CropTop=0
CropBottom=0
CropLeft=0
CropRight=0
Resize=Do not resize
ResX=1920
ResY=1080
Decimate=Do not decimate
Colors=Do not change colors
hue=0
sat=1
bright=0
cont=1
subtitles=Do not use subtitles
subtitleFileSize=0
path=
Denoise=FILM
AssumeFPS=AssumeFPS -> 23.976


The SourceFPS and MovieFPS are different (29.97 vs 23.976), so I took a chance and flipped a setting in the GUI to adjust the speed, which added the AssumeFPS line at the bottom of the ini file. I did not adjust any of the above items in my prior failed attempts.

I've got to wait overnight for the encode to go through (unless someone knows a way to cook up a "draft" MKV/MP4 in record time!), but we'll see what it does. I'm not holding my breath too much at this point.

Editing to add:
I just popped open the "de-muxed" video which RipBot is using to feed AVISynth and x264, and it too, without any sound, is in slow motion. ZoomPlayer reads that the designated framerate is 29.97... just about half the indicated 60 FPS seen in the first informational file above. Do I have to somehow force a 60 FPS (59.somethingsomething) to make this work better? (if so, in which step?) Hmmm...

I'll give the other FFDSHOW build a review after the encode completes, which looks like it will be sometime tomorrow morning.

If you see anything out of whack in that .ini file, or how you'd approach the task given the data, feel free to share ideas! (I can kick off another encode on the other computer to test any other ideas)

Thanks kindly,
-Greg

bigggt
2nd January 2009, 22:26
Question.. I have all my DVDs already ripped to my hard drive BUT I kept them in the DVD format (multiple VOBs, etc.). I want to use RipBot but it only supports single VOBs. What tool do you recommend in editing/joining the VOBs into a single file with NO re-encoding to get it ready for RipBot?

Thanks

Ripbot can handle them just they way they are, no need to be single .vobs

Atak_Snajpera
2nd January 2009, 22:29
use latest version and try again. It has updated eac3to tool.
Also send me 50 mb sample of first .m2ts to www.mediafire.com
Use this http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/DGSplit.shtml

mikelebron
2nd January 2009, 22:30
Ripbot can handle them just they way they are, no need to be single .vobs

Then how when my DVD has 7 VOBs that make up the movie and RipBot only lets you select 1 VOB

bigggt
2nd January 2009, 22:33
you just select the first vob and all will be good ,just try it and see if ripbot gives the correct time

Atak_Snajpera
2nd January 2009, 22:35
Then how when my DVD has 7 VOBs that make up the movie and RipBot only lets you select 1 VOB
Do what that gentleman advice you and you will see the magic :)

you just select the first vob
It does not even have to be first .vob :) (VTS_01_x.vob)

greggerm
2nd January 2009, 23:14
use latest version and try again. It has updated eac3to tool.
I'll drop in 1.12.0 following this in-progress encode (presuming it fails) and I'll restart the process.
Also send me 50 mb sample of first .m2ts...
Linked here... (http://www.pilotgerm.com/00000.m2ts_0)

Thanks,
-Greg

Atak_Snajpera
2nd January 2009, 23:46
This is what I get in latest version (v.1.12.0) with your sample

[JobSettings]
VideoFile=C:\00000.m2ts
VideoCodec=vc1
VideoWidth=1920
VideoHeight=1080
VideoAspectRatio=16:9
VideoProfile=[ level 4.0 ] HD . BluRay . Consoles
SourceFPS=29.97
MovieFPS=29.97
FPSinGUI=29.97
SourceNumberOfFrames=717
SourceMovieLength=23.9239239239239
CurrentMovieLength=23.9239239239239
SourceAudioLength=23.92
Frames=717
Duration=0:0:23.924
Mode=CQ
kbps=22
AudioFile=F:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.pcm.flac
AudioFileSize=3618511
AudioCodec=pcm
AudioBPS=1210166
AudioProfile=2.0 CT AAC-LC 128 kbps [abr]
Frequency=48000
Channels=2
DurationAudio=0:0:23.92
AudioLength=23.92
Normalize=100%
AudioDelay=0
Output=C:\00000.mp4
Container=mp4
LockSize=0
Size=3
Deinterlace=Top Field First -> 29.97 FPS
Crop=Do not crop
CropTop=0
CropBottom=0
CropLeft=0
CropRight=0
Resize=Do not resize
ResX=1920
ResY=1080
Decimate=Do not decimate
Colors=Do not change colors
hue=0
sat=1
bright=0
cont=1
subtitles=Do not use subtitles
subtitleFileSize=0
path=
Denoise=Do not denoise
AssumeFPS=Do not change

asarian
3rd January 2009, 01:02
If you have plenty of time you can use these settings.
http://pix.nofrag.com/2/6/a/6dcad6f0194e3fb84fc056159331f.bmp (http://pix.nofrag.com/2/6/a/6dcad6f0194e3fb84fc056159331f.html)

Encoding speed will be veeerrrryyy sloooowwww.

Thanks, nonetheless, for adding these 'insane' settings. :)

8ternity
3rd January 2009, 03:28
Try to install latest drivers and DirectX (november) http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/DirectX-9.0c-Redistributable.shtml

Thanks a lot.
I have update DirectX 10 with the latest updates and it's fine.

:p

8ternity
3rd January 2009, 03:46
Hi Atak,

I would like to know what is the difference in Encoder Setting, theses 2 options:

TRELLIS. QUANT.
1- STANDARD and 2- ENHANCED
and

ADAPTIVE B-FRAMES
1- STANDARD and 2- ENHANCED

Did change defaut setting can accurate encoding quality?

Thanks,
Happy New Year ATAK. !

greggerm
3rd January 2009, 04:54
Strange - upon updating to 1.12.0, I get the following error when attempting to prepare a job:

It goes through the demux process before giving the options for the job. At the tail end of all the demuxing, prior to setting any options for the encode, I see...

Please Wait... Gathering informations...

..in the status area. Then the WMP Classic window appears, and after sitting on an "Opening..." screen for 30 or so seconds, vaboom - this...

http://members.cox.net/spambait/ripboterror.jpg

Here's the first few lines of the getinfo.avs script...

video=DirectShowSource("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv",audio=false).ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\RipBot264\tools\AviSynth plugins\NicAudio\NicAudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.ac3")
AudioDub(video,audio)
WriteFile("C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Framecount")...


I validated that the NicAudio.dll plugin is in the path specified in the script. I can duplicate the error by running the jobinfo.avs file from the job's temp directory by hand in either WMP Classic or Zoomplayer. It would seem that the NicAudio plugin is having a fit.

This does not occur when I attempt to bring in the 50MB example file - only the full movie.

I have reinstalled FFDShow as well as AVISynth, with reboots in between, and still no joy.

Any ideas on this one?! She was working just fine prior to me bringing in the 1.12.0 files!

Cleghorn65
3rd January 2009, 05:55
I completed the encoding process but now it's on the "muxing" process and it has been for a few hours, the encoding went slow though but CPU usage is at 0% for the muxing process. That doesn't seem normal, is anything wrong?

Ajax_Undone
3rd January 2009, 08:57
Has there been any major changes in Avisynth v2.5.8 that would effect the operation of ripbot in any way?:)

thanx is advanced

survivant001
3rd January 2009, 13:38
I had the same problem as @greggerm.

and Ripbot got stuck 2 times when starting a 2th pass.

I just have to abort the job and start it again.

Atak_Snajpera
3rd January 2009, 14:24
Any ideas on this one?! She was working just fine prior to me bringing in the 1.12.0 files!
Ok. I think i found a bug.

~bT~
3rd January 2009, 19:02
bug? i added an external audio file..

http://thumbnails5.imagebam.com/2259/61b55e22586412.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/61b55e22586412)

http://thumbnails9.imagebam.com/2259/a3310f22586410.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a3310f22586410)

eyekyu
3rd January 2009, 21:48
i dont know if this has been discussed, but Low Priority Checked or UN-Checked

mikelebron
3rd January 2009, 23:04
Yep... worked.. thanks.. weird.. I had to select the 2nd file rather then the first to recongize the entire length of movie... no issues.. though..

I would like to recommend an enhancement... if you can

1. Add a profile regarding resolution for iphone / itouch
2. Keep aspect ratio when changing resolution.

Thanks!

Do what that gentleman advice you and you will see the magic :)


It does not even have to be first .vob :) (VTS_01_x.vob)

Atak_Snajpera
4th January 2009, 01:29
1. Add a profile regarding resolution for iphone / itouch
iphone has the same vertical resolution as PSP (480x...)

2. Keep aspect ratio when changing resolution.
ok

@BT
Show what you have in audio.1.pcm - Log.txt

mikelebron
4th January 2009, 02:14
@greggerm
What cpu do you have? What player do you use? If you have at least decent dual core install ffdshow MT (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245&release_id=523000)


Whats the difference with ffdshow MT and ffdshow?

Atak_Snajpera
4th January 2009, 02:20
Main difference is that h.264/AVC decoder in FFDshow MT is fully multithreaded. My Q6600@3Ghz can decode 1920x1080 60p (50Mbps) in more than 80fps. Despite experimental label it works very well.

melmac77
4th January 2009, 04:01
Hi All
I am new to ripbot and so far have done a few HD DVD to MKV no problem awesome program however when I try to do a standard dvd it crops my output to 4:3 instead of keeping it exactly as the original was. This also occured when I tried did a mpg same thing cropped to 4:3. I suspect that this is due to the flag of what the imput file size is is not being passed into Ripbot by FFDShow I hope that makes sense I'm fairly new to encoding. I think that 5something that should be ticked in either FFDSHOW or Haail and is not, hopefully someone could tell me what that would be
Thanks in advance
Mel

~bT~
4th January 2009, 04:58
@BT
Show what you have in audio.1.pcm - Log.txt

eac3to v2.87
command line: "C:\Program Files\RipBot264\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "G:\Projects\DEMUXED\00005 PID 1100 DELAY 0ms.pcm" "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.pcm.flac
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This might be a RAW/PCM file. Trying to figure out the details.
This will probably take a while. Please be patient...
Was not able to figure out all parameters of this RAW/PCM file.
Please specify channel, bitdepth and endian parameters via command line.

mikelebron
4th January 2009, 05:47
Main difference is that h.264/AVC decoder in FFDshow MT is fully multithreaded. My Q6600@3Ghz can decode 1920x1080 60p (50Mbps) in more than 80fps. Despite experimental label it works very well.

Right now I am lucky if I am getting 3 FPS using the 4.0 profile (no changes).. Im using an AMD Opteron 185@2.8 Ghz.. Its taking more then 14 hours to do a re-encode to blueray.. Would it improve using the MT version?

let me ask you.. the extension bluray over MKV.. how does this differ?

Ajax_Undone
4th January 2009, 06:51
One is the bluray disk structure the other is an mkv file...

Atak_Snajpera
4th January 2009, 10:47
Right now I am lucky if I am getting 3 FPS using the 4.0 profile (no changes).. Im using an AMD Opteron 185@2.8 Ghz.. Its taking more then 14 hours to do a re-encode to blueray.. Would it improve using the MT version?

I meant pure playback measured in timecodec not speed of conversion!!!

use mkv

@BT
Send me sample (.pcm)
Use DGsplit
and www.mediafire.com

mochevolete
4th January 2009, 11:36
noob question, may I create a new profile for re-encoding a BR to downsize it and recreate the BR like this ?

--pass 2 --bitrate 9877 --stats "1.stats" --level 4.1 --ref 4 --mixed-refs --no-fast-pskip --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --b-rdo --bime
--weightb --direct auto --filter -3,-3 --subme 7 --trellis 1 --analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto
--thread-input --sar 1:1 --cqmfile "prestige.cfg" --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "1080p[no p4x4].mkv" "1.avs"
--aq-strength 0.5 --aq-sensitivity 13 --qcomp 1

Atak_Snajpera
4th January 2009, 11:48
--cqmfile "prestige.cfg"
DO NOT USE CUSTOM MATRICES! Especially very controversial 'prestige' matrix

--aq-strength 0.5 --aq-sensitivity 13 --qcomp 1
Remove this as well! Default AQ values are better.

Four important switches are missing. --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 50000 --vbv-maxrate 50000.
you can also replace this
--analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct
with this
--partitions all --8x8dct

mochevolete
4th January 2009, 12:05
thanks for reply,

regarding the last suggestion there's a quote from another forum:
Conclusion
Seeing as excluding P4x4 frames has no ill effects on PQ I advise that you all disable P4x4 in order to truly conform to L 4.1
But look at the screens and judge for yourself

So, to disable P4x4 in commandline, instead of using --analyse all use:

Quote
--analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8


so now another question, it has any sense to create "super" profiles to re-encoding a 27GB file (with only the video stream) to 20GB ? Maybe for this target is more than adequate the basic profile for Blurays ?

Nik

Atak_Snajpera
4th January 2009, 12:29
You can enable P4x4. Trust me!

it has any sense to create "super" profiles to re-encoding a 27GB file (with only the video stream) to 20GB ?
NO! Use default profile.

mochevolete
4th January 2009, 12:34
ok good !

BTW where's the temp folder of Ripbot ?

Atak_Snajpera
4th January 2009, 12:37
By default on x:\Temp\RipBot264temp
Where X is partition with the biggest free space

See RipBot264.ini

mochevolete
4th January 2009, 12:41
ok,
is there a way to avoid the initial demuxing (beacuse there's already just the video track) ? what if I feed Ripbot directly with an mkv instead of an m2ts ?

Nik

Atak_Snajpera
4th January 2009, 13:30
ok,
is there a way to avoid the initial demuxing (beacuse there's already just the video track) ? what if I feed Ripbot directly with an mkv instead of an m2ts ?
Audio if present is always demuxed from container!

mochevolete
4th January 2009, 13:39
nope, I mean because I've already demuxed the BR with eac3to, in the m2ts file there's only the video track, what if I feed Ripbot directly with an MKV instead of the M2TS ?

BTW many thanks for your support :)

Nik

mochevolete
4th January 2009, 14:20
please ignore my previous post

I've enabled in ffdshow the AVC/H264 decoding, and now the ETA time is 2 hrs, on the previous attempt, just aborted was more than 9hrs !
Is this normal ?

Nik

~bT~
4th January 2009, 17:17
@BT
Send me sample (.pcm)

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=39dde50f7954a9bed2db6fb9a8902bda

jasimo
4th January 2009, 18:01
Hi,

it is possible to add the ability to select more than only one subtitle to be extracted from the source m2ts file?

Thats because when i search for the right subtitle it takes a while to find the correct one (e.g. searching for forced subs, or if there are more subs in the same language).

rgs

Dark Shikari
4th January 2009, 18:38
Remove this as well! Default AQ values and --qcomp 1 are better.No, don't tell people to mess with qcomp. Leave it on default, not 1.0.

greggerm
4th January 2009, 19:28
One problem solved... but not without a hiccup

Upon updating to 1.12.0, I get the following error when attempting to prepare a job:

It goes through the demux process before giving the options for the job. At the tail end of all the demuxing, prior to setting any options for the encode, I see...

Please Wait... Gathering informations...

..in the status area. Then the WMP Classic window appears, and after sitting on an "Opening..." screen for 30 or so seconds, vaboom - this...

http://members.cox.net/spambait/ripboterror.jpg

Any ideas on this one?! She was working just fine prior to me bringing in the 1.12.0 files!

After poking around on the internet for the same error type, it was obvious it was a system related issue and not a Ripbot related issue.

I could easily play the demuxed MKV file on its own, and I could play the demuxed AC3 file on its own, but the "getinfo.avs" script wasn't working right.

Some internet research pointed me in the direction of codecs - this type of AVSynth hiccup is usually associated with playback chains and whatnot.

I took a look inside my FFDSHOW codec settings, and found the problem - The video VC-1 playback codec was set to libavcodec, and not wmv9 - I recall reading that VC-1 should always be set to wmv.

I reset it to wmv9, then re-initialized the process.... After Ripbot ran and did it's first quick pull of playlist and m2ts files, the setting was somehow reset back to libavcodec. I re-set it once more to wmv9 and initialized the preparatory demux process - the wmv9 setting remained through the process and it completed successfully.

It would seem that simply running RipBot changes the WMV and VC-1 codec settings to the libavcodec. This seems to be a bad thing, as it will error out when trying to gather info on a VC-1 video file unless the codec is set to wmv9.

Now I can get back to troubleshooting my audio sync issues...

Atak_Snajpera
4th January 2009, 20:28
No, don't tell people to mess with qcomp. Leave it on default, not 1.0.
Sorry I meant to remove Aq-strength , aq-sensitivity and -qcomp

This happens when you try to do two things at the same time.

This seems to be a bad thing, as it will error out when trying to gather info on a VC-1 video file unless the codec is set to wmv9.
Yes. I know that. New version will force wmv9.

greggerm
5th January 2009, 01:26
Yes. I know that. New version will force wmv9.

Good to hear - and FYI... 1.12.0 seems to handle the David Gilmour video (slow motion video problem) disc better. My first test of a waaay small (320x240 @ 256kbps) encode maintained proper speed and sync throughout. I'm running the overnight "master" encode now to see how it holds up. The only item I tweaked in the settings was to enable de-interlacing @ 29.72 top - everything else on the AVISynth side remained at the calculated defaults.

Thanks for your assistance, and thanks for your continuing work on the program.

-Greg

asarian
5th January 2009, 03:28
Atak, any reason not to use this version of ffdshow with your program?

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245

Looks pretty exciting. :)

~bT~
5th January 2009, 03:47
^ already use it here :) obviously its aimed at the higher end cpu's.

asarian
5th January 2009, 03:55
^ already use it here :) obviously its aimed at the higher end cpu's.

Thanks. Gonna give it a try on my quadcore. :)

Mary H
5th January 2009, 06:15
Thanks for the great program! I've had excellent results converting my BD/HD movies to 720P MKV's of about 8.3 GB. On my 65" Mits RPTV, they look very very close to the originals.

Just recently I've tried it on my favorite DVD's. The results look OK, but I'm not sure I'm using the best settings. What profile, resolution, final size, and KBPS would you recommend for a typical 2 hour DVD? I've searched for a guide on the web that might focus on DVD's, but haven't found one yet. A link to something like that would be great too. Thanks!

Blackwalker
5th January 2009, 06:52
I've enabled in ffdshow the AVC/H264 decoding, and now the ETA time is 2 hrs, on the previous attempt, just aborted was more than 9hrs !
Is this normal ?


i'd like to know this too!
ty again atak for this great program! :D

melmac77
5th January 2009, 08:03
Hi All
I am new to ripbot and so far have done a few HD DVD to MKV no problem awesome program however when I try to do a standard dvd it crops my output to 4:3 instead of keeping it exactly as the original was. This also occured when I tried did a mpg same thing cropped to 4:3. I suspect that this is due to the flag of what the imput file size is is not being passed into Ripbot by FFDShow I hope that makes sense I'm fairly new to encoding. I think that something that should be ticked in either FFDSHOW or Haail and is not, hopefully someone could tell me what that would be
Thanks in advance
Mel

Looked around and cannot work out why my dvds are resized whe converting to mkv so I am going to unistall the version of ripbot I am using and install the latest version. Do I need a specific version of FFDShow I am currently using
FFDShow rev.2364
AviS 2.5.7
Haali 1.8.122.18
Thanks in advance
Mel

mochevolete
5th January 2009, 09:42
unfortunately after 11+ hrs of encoding the result is a 427MB file (I was re-encoding a BR from 27GB to 20GB), I set the size to 19.000 MB,
any idea why it ended so small ?

Nik

Atak_Snajpera
5th January 2009, 15:33
unfortunately after 11+ hrs of encoding the result is a 427MB file (I was re-encoding a BR from 27GB to 20GB), I set the size to 19.000 MB,
any idea why it ended so small ?
LOG please (/Logs/Jobx_log.txt)

prettyboy85712
5th January 2009, 15:51
Thanks for the great program! I've had excellent results converting my BD/HD movies to 720P MKV's of about 8.3 GB. On my 65" Mits RPTV, they look very very close to the originals.

Just recently I've tried it on my favorite DVD's. The results look OK, but I'm not sure I'm using the best settings. What profile, resolution, final size, and KBPS would you recommend for a typical 2 hour DVD? I've searched for a guide on the web that might focus on DVD's, but haven't found one yet. A link to something like that would be great too. Thanks!

What settings did you use?

I've noticed when using DVD content that RipBot264 seems to have problems with window boxed content. It doesn't always calculate correctly when using the crop and resize feature. A lot of times the resulting image appears stretched.

greggerm
5th January 2009, 16:48
Atak -
A note of thanks and success...

After a week of trials, errors, problems, and small victories, I can say that I have successfully completed my first h264 highdef encode from a Bluray disk.

In this day and age of instant gratification, h264 encoding of Bluray forces us all to sit back and relax - if only because it takes so long to process the data! These delays forced me into being patient. Patience is a necessity when working with programs such as RipBot - not because of any faults in the program, but because the process is complex and full of variables from one movie or computer to the next.

I certainly don't claim to know how everything meshes together, and I am positive that down the road I'll be back here in the thread soliciting help - but after fighting through my first encode, I have a better handle on the process and my hope is that future encoding projects will be nice and smooth. And if not smooth, at least I have a little experience to build on to troubleshoot it.

So again, thanks for the efforts writing and maintaining the package. Hopefully I'll be able to leverage it further as my nascent Blu-Ray collection starts to grow.

-Greg

deets
5th January 2009, 17:00
any chance of giving us the option to pipe to the 64 bit version of x264 like lord mulders prog?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1231227#post1231227

mikelebron
5th January 2009, 17:18
Can you share your settings?

Atak -
A note of thanks and success...

After a week of trials, errors, problems, and small victories, I can say that I have successfully completed my first h264 highdef encode from a Bluray disk.

In this day and age of instant gratification, h264 encoding of Bluray forces us all to sit back and relax - if only because it takes so long to process the data! These delays forced me into being patient. Patience is a necessity when working with programs such as RipBot - not because of any faults in the program, but because the process is complex and full of variables from one movie or computer to the next.

I certainly don't claim to know how everything meshes together, and I am positive that down the road I'll be back here in the thread soliciting help - but after fighting through my first encode, I have a better handle on the process and my hope is that future encoding projects will be nice and smooth. And if not smooth, at least I have a little experience to build on to troubleshoot it.

So again, thanks for the efforts writing and maintaining the package. Hopefully I'll be able to leverage it further as my nascent Blu-Ray collection starts to grow.

-Greg

god_md5
5th January 2009, 17:41
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8929/screenhunter01jan060035zb5.jpg

i get this error ,when i chage 5.1 h264 ts to mp4
in vista sp1 x64.ripbot264 ver 1.12

pilot550
5th January 2009, 17:46
I have been trying a lot of programs lately for converting Blu-ray into MKV. MeGUI and AutoMKV are both stellar programs in my opinion but Ripbot264 combined with AnyDVD HD makes everything so simple. You can do everything right from the Blu-ray disc. I don't know how it works, I just know it does. My question resides in the "how it works" category. I encoded The Dark Knight to mkv with 2-pass mode @ 6144 kbps selecting the 5.1 Aften 448 kbps AC3 audio stream. I set the size to 1280x720. The resulting mkv was 7.01GB. I then ran it again with the exact same settings except this time I chose 1920x1080 resolution and to copy the audio stream. The encoding took considerably longer and I ended up with a 7.21Gb mkv file. I confirmed the resolutions and audio bit rates with MediaInfo. I compared the audio stream sizes with Tsmuxer and the 640 kbps AC3 stream in 209MB larger then the 448 kbps stream. So that means the 1080p video stream is the same size as the 720p stream. MediaInfo reads the 720p stream as being 5879 Kbps and the 1080p stream as being 5871 Kbps. So if the bit rates are the same but the resolutions are different how can the file sizes be the same?

god_md5
5th January 2009, 17:59
I have been trying a lot of programs lately for converting Blu-ray into MKV. MeGUI and AutoMKV are both stellar programs in my opinion but Ripbot264 combined with AnyDVD HD makes everything so simple. You can do everything right from the Blu-ray disc. I don't know how it works, I just know it does. My question resides in the "how it works" category. I encoded The Dark Knight to mkv with 2-pass mode @ 6144 kbps selecting the 5.1 Aften 448 kbps AC3 audio stream. I set the size to 1280x720. The resulting mkv was 7.01GB. I then ran it again with the exact same settings except this time I chose 1920x1080 resolution and to copy the audio stream. The encoding took considerably longer and I ended up with a 7.21Gb mkv file. I confirmed the resolutions and audio bit rates with MediaInfo. I compared the audio stream sizes with Tsmuxer and the 640 kbps AC3 stream in 209MB larger then the 448 kbps stream. So that means the 1080p video stream is the same size as the 720p stream. MediaInfo reads the 720p stream as being 5879 Kbps and the 1080p stream as being 5871 Kbps. So if the bit rates are the same but the resolutions are different how can the file sizes be the same?
1080p 5871kbps resize to 720p ,you can change the bitrate to half ,than file size is half. resolutions low so you can make the low bitrate , like jpg the bitrate is low the q is low.
you can use the lock size ,to make 4.3gb about to dvd...

greggerm
5th January 2009, 18:12
@ mikelebron

My settings are all pretty standard - I needed to use 1.12.0 due to some demuxing issues with my original disc, but I used RipBot264 essentially straight out of the box.

I used the hidef (lev 4) profile, along with a CQ 22 value, and I reencoded my audio to AAC 5.1 @ 256kbps. Outside of that, I had to enable 29.72 top field first deinterlacing due to the source being an interlaced video. I probably could have gotten away with resizing down to 720p because of the interlaced original, however I kept it up at 1080 for the heck of it.

The original bluray is 40 GB or so, the resultant video is 20 GB. I could also probably get away with lowering the quality on the video (moving to CQ 23, 24, 25) to further reduce the size, but those experiments will wait a bit, as I want to savor my first successful encode for a bit.

My next attempt will hopefully be a pure 1080p source, so I can *really* see what it can look like!

-Greg

Ajax_Undone
6th January 2009, 05:37
any chance of giving us the option to pipe to the 64 bit version of x264 like lord mulders prog?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1231227#post1231227

Why would one need this the 32bit version is just fine. I am truly not seeing a necessity here. :sly:

Besides that RipBot is a 32bit program and runs fine on both x64 and x86 platforms.

If your needing the 10% gain. That is a relative measurement anyway and there in varies from 0-10%. To change an already working app to compensate for a 10% margin of err is kind of ludicrous. Don't you think. Besides the 64bit version is not yet supported AFAIK.:D

wolfbane5
6th January 2009, 07:03
I'm having a bit of a problem with encoding Underworld Evolution from blu-ray. I loaded a .ts with video only and a .dts file for audio. Normally, I tell RipBot264 to automatically crop the black borders and it works fine. Except this time, it somehow screws up and doesn't seem to be able to maintain the aspect ratio of the movie (2.40:1). Instead it crops it way down to 1.85:1. Anyone know why this could happen? If you needs pics of the problem, I'll get them.

Edit: I'm using the latest version of RipBot264 1.12.0.

deets
6th January 2009, 09:37
Why would one need this the 32bit version is just fine. I am truly not seeing a necessity here. :sly:

Besides that RipBot is a 32bit program and runs fine on both x64 and x86 platforms.

If your needing the 10% gain. That is a relative measurement anyway and there in varies from 0-10%. To change an already working app to compensate for a 10% margin of err is kind of ludicrous. Don't you think. Besides the 64bit version is not yet supported AFAIK.:D

sure its fine, was just asking if it were an option :) and a 10% speed increase is a huge amount in the x264 world and when converting hd, god knows how much time that could save.

all i was thinking was a check box and then the output command gets piped to the 64 bit version via avs2yuv.exe.

nothing else would change, so cant see it being a huge thing as you made out.

was just interested what atak thought, not even sure if he has a 64 bit os!

mochevolete
6th January 2009, 10:12
log please (/logs/jobx_log.txt)
:) ...

picman1
6th January 2009, 14:30
Hi,

Being new to using this tool for converting my blu-ray dvd's to *.ts files for streaming to my PS3 I wanted to make sure I am doing the process the most efficient way. Using The Dark Knight as an example I use ripbot to create my x264 video file with no audio. I use TSmuxer to demux the TrueHD audio file, use eac3to to convert the TrueHD audio to an LPCM audio and finally TSmuxer to mux the new video and LPCM audio file to a .ts file. The file created works great with Tversity and the stream always seems to work great to the PS3. My question, is this the best way to get an x264 video file and a LPCM audio file created and combined for streaming to my PS3? I don't see any option to convert audio files to LPCM within ripbot or to combine an existing LPCM audio file if it were available. By the way great tool, very easy to use and with a quad core I can get a couple of blu's done in a day. Thank you for any help or suggestions.

iwens
6th January 2009, 15:38
After experimenting an lot with this tool to get an good quality mkv that will playback on my dvico tvix 4100, i finally found an work around.

I selected blue-ray output and the resulting mt2s file in the stream folder play's flawlessly on my tvico dvix 4100 with bitrates up to 16mb/s.

So i made an 720p 15mb/s level 4.1 profile with the very slow settings atak provided an couple of page's back. The resulting file is after 8 hours encoding an 5,5 gb large file for 51min video. And looks absolutely stunning and also play's back fine on my tvix dvico 4100.

So very happy now :)

greggerm
6th January 2009, 15:42
Atak and all other experts -

Is it possible to use a tool like DGSplit to chop a m2ts file into a small chunk, and then use that small chunk just as you would any other m2ts file in the eyes of Ripbot?

I am interested in playing with the various encoding and bitrate settings of Ripbot, but I certainly do not want to encode the ~entire~ movie each time while I test to find my personal preferences for bitrate and quality.

Do any of you have preferred methods for testing encode quality with small chunks of video?

Regards,
-Greg

asarian
6th January 2009, 17:22
Atak and all other experts -

Is it possible to use a tool like DGSplit to chop a m2ts file into a small chunk, and then use that small chunk just as you would any other m2ts file in the eyes of Ripbot?

I use tsMuxeR for that (use 'cut' on one of the tabs).

prettyboy85712
6th January 2009, 17:38
I use tsMuxeR for that (use 'cut' on one of the tabs).

Wow. I completely forgot about that feature.

swashbuckle
6th January 2009, 18:08
found a command-line error in "job1_MuxFiles.cmd" when i tried to add subtitles into the final Mux, while leaving the subtitles language box empty.

the command-line was originally this:-
"C:\Users\directory\ripbot\tools\mkvtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o
"C:\videofile.mkv" --default-duration 0:23.976fps -d 0 -A -S
"C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" -a 0 -D -S
"C:\temp\RipBot264temp\audio.aac" --language 0: -s 0 -D -A "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitles.srt"

it couldn't complete the encoding and it gave the error that "--language 0:" language was unspecified

it only worked when i manually typed in the language below:
"--language 0:english"

swashbuckle
6th January 2009, 18:10
may i also suggest that RipBot include Nero AAC encoder support in its next release?

Atak_Snajpera
6th January 2009, 18:10
v1.12.0
Fixed: Files were not muxed into mkv container if subtitles didn't have specified language


?????

swashbuckle
6th January 2009, 18:16
?????

eh?

realised im still on v1.11.5 lol

anyway it would be great if you could add Nero AAC encoder as an option, because popular Media Players like Popcorn Hour, Western Digital etc can't play .MKV files that use Vorbis audio.

Atak_Snajpera
6th January 2009, 18:17
What's wrong with CT AAC?????????

swashbuckle
6th January 2009, 18:25
What's wrong with CT AAC?????????

nothing, just a personal preference for Nero AAC because i *think* it gives better quality :D

btw I have a noob question:
if i enable sharpening in ffdshow when i encode, would it have a sharpening effect on the encoded video?

Atak_Snajpera
6th January 2009, 18:27
Only when script uses DirectShowSource

was just interested what atak thought, not even sure if he has a 64 bit os!
At the moment I have only Vista 32bit but with your help (testing) I could add this. Up to 15% faster encoding looks really nice.

picman1
6th January 2009, 18:33
Hi,

Is there any future consideration of allowing LPCM files to be passed through and having an output file of .ts? This would save time remuxing time for creating PS3 streaming files. Thank you.

Atak_Snajpera
6th January 2009, 18:36
is this feature available in the ripbot GUI?
MKV , MP4 and few other formats are automatically decoded via DirectShowSource.

Is there any future consideration of allowing LPCM files to be passed through and having an output file of .ts?
Maybe, maybe not. i haven't decided yet.

picman1
6th January 2009, 18:47
If you decide to go ahead it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

screaming
7th January 2009, 06:08
I seem to be having a problem only with audio that's in E-AC3. Below is the log for eac3to:

eac3to v2.87
command line: "C:\Program Files\RipBot264\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "G:\" 1) 3: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" -seekToIFrames 4: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac" 2: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 5 audio tracks, 4 subtitle tracks, 2:25:27
"Feature Presentation"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 48 chapters with names
3: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
5: E-AC3 Surround, French, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: E-AC3 Surround, Spanish, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
7: E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
"Cast and crew commentary"
8: E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
"Cop and crook commentary"
9: Subtitle, English
10: Subtitle, English, "SDH"
11: Subtitle, French
12: Subtitle, Spanish
Disabling DRC for Nero (E-)AC3 decoding...
Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v03] Extracting video track number 3...
[v03] Removing VC-1 pulldown...
[v03] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)...
[a04] The FLAC encoder didn't receive the format information.
Aborted at file position 19882702848.


Any ideas? Perhaps I need to re-install something?

melmac77
7th January 2009, 11:53
Hi All
I am new to ripbot and so far have done a few HD DVD to MKV no problem awesome program however when I try to do a standard dvd it crops my output to 4:3 instead of keeping it exactly as the original was. This also occured when I tried did a mpg same thing cropped to 4:3. I suspect that this is due to the flag of what the imput file size is is not being passed into Ripbot by FFDShow I hope that makes sense I'm fairly new to encoding. I think that 5something that should be ticked in either FFDSHOW or Haail and is not, hopefully someone could tell me what that would be
Thanks in advance
Mel

Some help Please :(
I have used the installer to upgrade to the newest version of ripbot and FFDShow(2547) but I still cannot get a Std dvd to come out right HDVD and Bluray I do no problem. I ripped Flying High standard DVD to the harddrive with AnydvdHD play one of the VOBs yep full screen looks good, open ripbot load it in go to properties accept default no resize no crop preview and boom 4:3 again where am I going wrong !
Any help greatly appreciated i am quietly going mad here :(
Mel

~bT~
7th January 2009, 12:09
after ripbot creates the d2v file, open it in notepad and copy paste 1st few lines here.

example:

Stream_Type=1
MPEG_Type=2
iDCT_Algorithm=6
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance_Filter=0,0
Clipping=0,0,0,0
Aspect_Ratio=16:9
Picture_Size=720x576
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=25000 (25/1)
Location=0,0,3,6a1ce

edit: sd pal & sd ntsc resize is not correct for vobs. just checked it myself but sd pc is correct.

~bT~
7th January 2009, 14:24
SD PAL - 720/436=1.65 = INCORRECT
SD NTSC - 720/362=1.98 = INCORRECT
SD PC - 640/272=2.35 = CORRECT

Should be (excluding borders):

SD PAL - 720/304=2.36

easiest way is to simply resize (no cropping) to 720x400+PAL/NTSC borders.

example:

#Resize
video=Spline36Resize(video,720,400).AddBorders(0,40,0,40)

#Resize
video=Spline36Resize(video,720,400).AddBorders(0,88,0,88)

juGGaKNot
7th January 2009, 14:36
SD PAL - 720/436=1.65 = INCORRECT
SD NTSC - 720/362=1.98 = INCORRECT
SD PC - 640/272=2.35 = CORRECT

Should be (excluding borders):

SD PAL - 720/304=2.36

easiest way is to simply resize (no cropping) to 720x400+PAL/NTSC borders.

example:

#Resize
video=Spline36Resize(video,720,400).AddBorders(0,40,0,40)

#Resize
video=Spline36Resize(video,720,400).AddBorders(0,88,0,88)

spline64 is better for downsampling ( avisynth 2.5.8 )

^ it was an example and also it wasn't downsampled :)

not forgetting, i aint upgraded yet, waiting for the MT patch.

True :D

~bT~
7th January 2009, 15:10
^ it was an example and also it wasn't downsampled :)

not forgetting, i aint upgraded yet, waiting for the MT patch.

deets
7th January 2009, 16:36
id be happy to test any 64 bit additions :)

Atak_Snajpera
7th January 2009, 21:58
SD PAL - 720/436=1.65 = INCORRECT
SD NTSC - 720/362=1.98 = INCORRECT
SD PC - 640/272=2.35 = CORRECT
Have you ever heard about anamorphic resolution and --sar switch in x264?!?!

SD PAL -> --sar 1422:1000 = 1.422*720 = 1024 / 436 = 2.35 !!!
SD NTSC -> --sar 1185:1000 = 1.185*720 = 853 / 362 = 2.36 !!! (tiny error)

Any help greatly appreciated i am quietly going mad here
START ENCODING AND YOU WILL SEE THAT FINAL FILE WILL HAVE CORRECT ASPECT RATIO!!! Don't worry about preview in this case!

screaming
7th January 2009, 23:27
Now even selecting a TrueHD track isn't working. If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.

eac3to v2.87
command line: "C:\Program Files\RipBot264\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "G:\" 1) 3: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" -seekToIFrames 4: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac" 10: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitle.1.sup" 2: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 6 audio tracks, 10 subtitle tracks, 1:57:36
"Blade Runner Final Feature"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 37 chapters with names
3: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -5ms
5: TrueHD, English, 5.1 channels, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -1ms
6: E-AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -5ms
7: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -21ms
"Commentary #1"
8: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -21ms
"Commentary #2"
9: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -21ms
"Commentary #3"
10: Subtitle, English, "SDH"
11: Subtitle, French
12: Subtitle, Spanish
13: Subtitle, Japanese
14: Subtitle, Chinese, "Chinese"
15: Subtitle, Korean
16: Subtitle, Portuguese
17: Subtitle, Japanese, "Commentary #1"
18: Subtitle, Japanese, "Commentary #3"
19: Subtitle, Japanese, "Commentary #2"
Disabling DRC for Nero (E-)AC3 decoding...
Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v03] Extracting video track number 3...
[v03] Removing VC-1 pulldown...
[v03] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)...
[s10] Extracting subtitle track number 10...
[s10] Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitle.1.sup"...
[a04] The FLAC encoder didn't receive the format information.
Aborted at file position 20381827072.


I seem to be having a problem only with audio that's in E-AC3. Below is the log for eac3to:

eac3to v2.87
command line: "C:\Program Files\RipBot264\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "G:\" 1) 3: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" -seekToIFrames 4: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac" 2: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 5 audio tracks, 4 subtitle tracks, 2:25:27
"Feature Presentation"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 48 chapters with names
3: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
5: E-AC3 Surround, French, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: E-AC3 Surround, Spanish, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
7: E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
"Cast and crew commentary"
8: E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
"Cop and crook commentary"
9: Subtitle, English
10: Subtitle, English, "SDH"
11: Subtitle, French
12: Subtitle, Spanish
Disabling DRC for Nero (E-)AC3 decoding...
Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v03] Extracting video track number 3...
[v03] Removing VC-1 pulldown...
[v03] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)...
[a04] The FLAC encoder didn't receive the format information.
Aborted at file position 19882702848.


Any ideas? Perhaps I need to re-install something?

gyrene2083
7th January 2009, 23:41
Atak, I'm sure you heard this already but this is a fantastic program. Kudos to you. For me, this is a long long way from making VCD's, lol... I was able to re-encode The Dark Knight. I got it down to about 9 gigs, and I was truly impressed, that it kept the letterbox scenes and switched to full screen without a hitch. I couldn't tell if I was watching the blu-ray disk itself! I tried using HB and it took about 17 hours, and it didn't keep format of the movie, could be that since I'm still learning that I didn't know what I was doing but it did a decent job, and i was left with a 12 gig file. This only took me about 15 hours.

Here are my specs CoreDuo E8400 3.0ghz, 4gb Ram, running on Vista Ultimate x64. Anyway just wanted to say thank you, and great job!!!

Atak_Snajpera
8th January 2009, 00:18
Now even selecting a TrueHD track isn't working. If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.
Temporary remove Nero Audio Decoder 2

asarian
8th January 2009, 01:23
Now even selecting a TrueHD track isn't working. If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.

Try adding "-libav" to the eac3to command line, to bypass Nero.

~bT~
8th January 2009, 01:31
Have you ever heard about anamorphic resolution and --sar switch in x264?!?!

SD PAL -> --sar 1422:1000 = 1.422*720 = 1024 / 436 = 2.35 !!!
SD NTSC -> --sar 1185:1000 = 1.185*720 = 853 / 362 = 2.36 !!! (tiny error)


START ENCODING AND YOU WILL SEE THAT FINAL FILE WILL HAVE CORRECT ASPECT RATIO!!! Don't worry about preview in this case!i have heard of anamorphic encoding ;)

it doesn't work dude.. tried it 3 times. once without any crop or resize, once with resize and finally once with crop and resize.
tried mp4 and mkv. cheers!

"C:\Program Files\RipBot264\tools\x264\x264.exe" "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --crf 22 --sar 1185:1000 --level 3.0 --vbv-bufsize 5000 --vbv-maxrate 12000 --no-cabac --filter 0,0 --ref 1 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,p4x4, --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

Atak_Snajpera
8th January 2009, 01:41
it doesn't work dude.. tried it 3 times. once without any crop or resize, once with resize and finally once with crop and resize.
tried mp4 and mkv. cheers!

So How will you explain this (.VOB 720x480 letterbox with aspect ratio 2.35:1)
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/3735/new1wc8.th.png (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1wc8.png)

Let me guess ! Stupid AppleTV does not care about sar values :)

~bT~
8th January 2009, 01:46
let me try again...

edit: yes, its the Apple-TV profile.. lol!
tried bluray and it was perfect!

screaming
8th January 2009, 06:23
Temporary remove Nero Audio Decoder 2

I found the .ax file for Nero Audio Decoder and renamed it. I tried again, and it looks like it reverted to libav, but then failed. I am screwed!

eac3to v2.87
command line: "C:\Program Files\RipBot264\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "G:\" 1) 3: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" -seekToIFrames 4: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac" 2: "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 6 audio tracks, 10 subtitle tracks, 1:57:36
"Blade Runner Final Feature"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 37 chapters with names
3: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -5ms
5: TrueHD, English, 5.1 channels, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -1ms
6: E-AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -5ms
7: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -21ms
"Commentary #1"
8: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -21ms
"Commentary #2"
9: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -21ms
"Commentary #3"
10: Subtitle, English, "SDH"
11: Subtitle, French
12: Subtitle, Spanish
13: Subtitle, Japanese
14: Subtitle, Chinese, "Chinese"
15: Subtitle, Korean
16: Subtitle, Portuguese
17: Subtitle, Japanese, "Commentary #1"
18: Subtitle, Japanese, "Commentary #3"
19: Subtitle, Japanese, "Commentary #2"
[a04] The Nero decoder doesn't seem to work, will use libav instead.
Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v03] Extracting video track number 3...
[v03] Removing VC-1 pulldown...
[v03] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a04] Remapping channels...
[a04] Applying RAW/PCM delay...
[a04] Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
[a04] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[a04] Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac"...
[a04] Clipping detected, a 2nd pass will be necessary.
[a04] Starting 2nd pass...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a04] Remapping channels...
[a04] Applying RAW/PCM delay...
[a04] Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
[a04] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[a04] Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac"...
[a04] The FLAC encoder's verifyer detected a data mismatch.
Aborted at file position 15138252800.

Espio
8th January 2009, 10:42
"BePipe.exe - Application Error
The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135)."

Any reason this might be happening? Windows XP SP3, using the newest version (1.12.0), the audio seems to be Vorbis.

juGGaKNot
8th January 2009, 12:03
Just got a 1920x1080 benq e2200HD 22' LCD monitor

I must say that the videos encoded with ripbot look much better than the ones done with old methods ( bat r600 and megui r 800 ) that are in the cs encoding world.

Cheers for your work on ripbot.

melmac77
8th January 2009, 14:36
after ripbot creates the d2v file, open it in notepad and copy pa7ste 1st few lines here.
.

[QUOTE=Atak_Snajpera;1233798
START ENCODING AND YOU WILL SEE THAT FINAL FILE WILL HAVE CORRECT ASPECT RATIO!!! Don't worry about preview in this case![/QUOTE]

Hi all thanks for the reply I ignored preview and encoded file I select do not crop do not resize result was squished to 4:3. d2v file below
DGIndexProjectFile16
5
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_4.VOB
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_5.VOB

Stream_Type=1
MPEG_Type=2
iDCT_Algorithm=6
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance_Filter=0,0
Clipping=0,0,0,0
Aspect_Ratio=16:9
Picture_Size=720x576
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=25000 (25/1)
Location=0,0,4,1bb11

Not quite sure where I'm going wrong hard to beleive HDVD and blurays worked so easy but standard DVD is causing me so much trouble obviously something in my system is not set right hopefully you might be able to tell me where
Thanks in advance
Mel

Ween
8th January 2009, 19:31
I have a computer that encodes and merges the files just fine... but the gui says "merging..." in the bottom left corner and doesnt move on to process the next file. The merge is complete however and the file is finished. I also have x264 crashes on a separate computer (but not the merging... problem). Anyone have a clue?

~bT~
9th January 2009, 02:09
^ do u have the log folder in place? i had the same problem a while back where the log folder disappeared and it would hang on muxing.

Ween
9th January 2009, 03:05
^ do u have the log folder in place? i had the same problem a while back where the log folder disappeared and it would hang on muxing.

Where is the default log folder? I am assuming its not where I unzip'd the files.

~bT~
9th January 2009, 03:40
http://thumbnails4.imagebam.com/2311/f6142e23102260.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f6142e23102260)

alc0re
9th January 2009, 04:13
Atak...when you specify bluray as output...it muxes with tsMuxer if I'm not mistaken (I see the app in the ripbot folders and the log mentions using tsMuxer.) Do you set any special options for txMuxer that are not default? Like for example on video streams the following options are on by default : Add picture timing info and continually insert SPS/PPS and use async I/O. Do you keep those on or do you turn them off?

Or maybe you can help answer my real question that I've asked in a few other forums with no answer.

Here is it : I hope you don't take offense but I don't really use RipBot264 currently, although its a great solution and I may start using it. Right now I transcode blurays to AVCHDs targeted to fit on a dual layer dvd using eac3to, megui, suprip, and tsmuxer. Basically I'm just doing what RipBot264 does, but manually. I have an issue though. My transcoded blurays...the video stutters when I'm playing them on my Panasonic bluray player with the way I've been transcoding them. I rip streams using eac3to, transcode the video with MeGUI using Ryu77's avchd profile. I resize the video down to 1280x720 with a bitrate to fit on a dual layer dvd. i then mux the streams back to a bluray structure using tsMuxer. But the video stutters. Its not a FPS issue...im transcoding @ 23.976 FPS. Its something else. For the hell of it this morning I tried something different. I transcoded the matrix 3 using ripbot. I used your bluray profile. I set it for bluray output and set the target size to a single layer dvd. I burnt that and tested it and there's no stuttering. So I'm trying to figure out what RipBot264 is doing that the video is smooth that I'm not doing correctly with MeGUI doing the transcoding. Any ideas? My only guesses are 1) the x264 encoding/profile settings 2) the level (your bluray profile is high@L4.0 and the one I'm using with MeGUI is high@L4.1) 3) The muxing process with tsMuxer 4) The bitrate. To fit it on a single layer dvd the bitrate is like 3800 which is pretty far below my normal transcoding bitrate or 5) the medium. I burned RipBot's output to a single layer verbatim disc and my normal ones are burnt to a dual layer memorex dvd (before I researched and found that verbatim make better blank dvds.)

Any input would be much appreciated.


EDIT/UPDATE : Nevermind...I figured it out. It was the level. I took one of the movies that was stuttering and demuxed the tracks out. I then re-muxed it with tsRemux and checked the option to change the level from 4.1 to 4.0. It now plays just like its supposed to on my panasonic bd35.

Ween
9th January 2009, 04:46
http://thumbnails4.imagebam.com/2311/f6142e23102260.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f6142e23102260)

Yea, I figured that out after I went hunting.. and yes, it works perfectly. Thank you very much for your response.

prettyboy85712
9th January 2009, 05:19
Encountering problems trying to encode Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles BD. I've ripped the disk to my hard drive using AnyDVDHD. I encoded the 3 episodes and they wound up with black bars on the left and right side of the image. http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0d8915707b1ee678d2db6fb9a8902bda

If I encode a single episode straight to Blu-ray disk the bars are gone, but if I encode more than one episode the bars appear.

C:\>"C:\RipBot264\tools\x264\x264.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 1 --bitrate 3793 --stats "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --sar 1185:1000 --level 4.1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --partitions none --subme 3 --me dia --output "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

avis [info]: 720x480 @ 23.98 fps (61039 frames)

x264 [info]: using SAR=237/200

x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 PHADD SSE4.2

x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.1

x264 [info]: slice I:834 Avg QP:12.16 size: 51373

x264 [info]: slice P:26566 Avg QP:13.45 size: 27484

x264 [info]: slice B:33639 Avg QP:14.84 size: 12666

x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 14.2% 29.9% 12.2% 43.7%

x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 24.0% 25.6% 50.4%

x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 29.7% 0.0% 0.0% P16..4: 63.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% skip: 7.3%

x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 8.8% 0.0% 0.0% B16..8: 39.9% 0.0% 0.0% direct:32.0% skip:19.3% L0:36.3% L1:25.6% BI:38.1%

x264 [info]: final ratefactor: 14.71

x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:1.8% inter:32.8%

x264 [info]: direct mvs spatial:99.5% temporal:0.5%

x264 [info]: ref P L0 69.7% 17.9% 12.5%

x264 [info]: ref B L0 75.8% 24.2%

x264 [info]: kb/s:3768.0



encoded 61039 frames, 24.29 fps, 3768.07 kb/s

This is driving crazy and I can't figure it out.

Espio
9th January 2009, 08:55
"BePipe.exe - Application Error
The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135)."

Any reason this might be happening? Windows XP SP3, using the newest version (1.12.0), the audio seems to be Vorbis.

Apparently just running BePipe on its own causes it to crash, as well.

iwens
9th January 2009, 09:56
After finding out what to do to get files who play on my tvix 4100 i started to recode my blue-ray colection.

But i have now had 3 times that it seems like the second or first pass failes. When i am at my comp watching i notice this becouse the fps shoot's to 88 fps.

last night i loaded the 11 collection's in ripbot which takes some time becouse u need to analyze every file 1 by 1. When i came back this morning it finished 6 files which is weird becouse every recode last 9 hours. So i checked the file and it was very small in mediainfo it showed the following info.

General
ID : 1
Complete name : D:\backup\04-11 Caves.bluray\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 262 MiB
Duration : 48mn 45s
Overall bit rate : 752 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Bit rate : 73.4 Kbps

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 48mn 45s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz


So clearly wrong as the video is empty. I tried to create an blue-ray file actually i only need the m2ts file to remux to ts but no ts output option in ripbot264.

Also there was no log in ripbot264 log directory of the failing recode's. Not shure what info u need further but can provide u with anything u need if not already here.

The system is clean btw becouse i multiboot i only have ripbot installed with the installer provided in the forum.

I have compressed the files in my temp folder of the failing job. Which u can download at: job4.rar (http://www.xs4all.nl/~iwens/files/job4.rar)

If u need any further info let me know.

Atak_Snajpera
9th January 2009, 13:07
Apparently just running BePipe on its own causes it to crash, as well.
This will solve your problem
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=E3821449-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en

Encountering problems trying to encode Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles BD. I've ripped the disk to my hard drive using AnyDVDHD. I encoded the 3 episodes and they wound up with black bars on the left and right side of the image
I need sample of source. Everything should be ok. --sar 1185:1000 is present so output resolution should be 16:9 (853:480). However I have the same problem with your sample.



but if I encode more than one episode the bars appear.
What do ou mean exactly?

prettyboy85712
9th January 2009, 15:00
I need sample of source. Everything should be ok. --sar 1185:1000 is present so output resolution should be 16:9 (853:480). However I have the same problem with your sample.

What do ou mean exactly?

Here is a sample of the source. LINK (http://www.mediafire.com/?mg32mjg3yyn)

Let me clarify. If I point RipBot264 to the full rip of the disk it recognizes the 3 episodes as the main feature. At this point everything appears to be normal. I setup my parameters(the script provided) and output to Blu-ray disk. The result is black bars on the entire encode. I then tried encoding only a single episode and output to Blu-ray disk and the encode turned out perfect. So, I can encode one episode per disk with correct results, but not all 3 together.

laserfan
9th January 2009, 17:06
Atak...when you specify bluray as output...it muxes with tsMuxer if I'm not mistaken (I see the app in the ripbot folders and the log mentions using tsMuxer.) Do you set any special options for txMuxer that are not default?...I don't really use RipBot264 currently, although its a great solution and I may start using it...
Virtually everything RipBot264 does is readily exposed in the Temp files it creates, including your question about tsMuxeR. Just check "keep those files" and examine them and all will be revealed.

mochevolete
9th January 2009, 20:19
:) ...
Hi Atak, could you please have a look at my log file, I get this warning about the size and bitrate 95% of the encodings ... :(

:\>"C:\DL\RipBot264v1.12.0\tools\x264\x264.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 1 --bitrate 16249 --stats "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --partitions none --subme 3 --me dia --output "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

avis [info]: 1920x1080 @ 23.98 fps (218978 frames)

x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1

x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64

x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.0

x264 [info]: slice I:877 Avg QP:13.97 size: 12775

x264 [info]: slice P:55181 Avg QP:13.96 size: 63

x264 [info]: slice B:162920 Avg QP:12.00 size: 51

x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 0.4% 0.0% 0.0% 99.6%

x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 98.8% 0.0% 1.2%

x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% P16..4: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% skip:100.0%

x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% B16..8: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% direct: 0.0% skip:100.0% L0:67.1% L1:32.9% BI: 0.0%

x264 [info]: final ratefactor: -39.15

x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:0.0% inter:41.5%

x264 [info]: direct mvs spatial:0.0% temporal:100.0%

x264 [info]: ref B L0 99.0% 1.0%

x264 [info]: kb/s:20.1



encoded 218978 frames, 27.68 fps, 23.65 kb/s


C:\>"C:\DL\RipBot264v1.12.0\tools\x264\x264.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 2 --bitrate 16249 --stats "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

avis [info]: 1920x1080 @ 23.98 fps (218978 frames)

x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1

x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64

x264 [warning]: target: 16249.00 kbit/s, expected: 20.17 kbit/s, avg QP: 10.0000

x264 [warning]: try reducing target bitrate or reducing qp_min (currently 10)

x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.0

Atak_Snajpera
9th January 2009, 20:35
Did you get picture in preview?

mochevolete
9th January 2009, 21:00
the above log was a BR downsizing and the only way I could make it work has been to demux the video with eac3to before the encoding, and after a whooping 40hrs of encoding (I have a E6400, 2GB, on Vista 32) I got my video re-encoded.

Right now I'm trying to reencode a 5GB m2ts files with BR extras to 1GB mkv, Ripbot reports 23,976fps, but the VC-1 video is actually 29,97fps (reported by yor Mediainfo), BTW after 2 tries the result is a tiny 50MB little file :(, and the preview, using a slight modified profile, is working good

Nik

melmac77
10th January 2009, 01:36
Hi all thanks for the reply I ignored preview and encoded file I select do not crop do not resize result was squished to 4:3. d2v file below

DGIndexProjectFile16
5
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_4.VOB
D:\Workingfolder\flying1\FLYING_HIGH\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_5.VOB

Stream_Type=1
MPEG_Type=2
iDCT_Algorithm=6
YUV7RGB_Scale=1
Luminance_Filter=0,0
Clipping=0,0,0,0
Aspect_Ratio=16:9
Picture_Size=720x576
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=25000 (25/1)
Location=0,0,4,1bb11

Not quite sure where I'm going wrong hard to beleive HDVD and blurays worked so easy but standard DVD is causing me so much trouble obviously something in my system is not set right hopefully you might be able to tell me where
Thanks in advance
Mel

Hi all does ny one have any thoughts on where i'm going wrong re above I have tried other standard dvds but am having the same problems with those
mel

Atak_Snajpera
10th January 2009, 02:02
create 50mb sample from first .vob. you can use DGsplit.
send sample to www.mediafire.com

vman9999
10th January 2009, 06:19
Hi,

I'm getting this error "mp4box has stopped working" in the final stages of an AppleTV conversion within RipBot.

It seems to be happening with select videos but it consistantly happens with those videos.

Can anyone help?

Thanks.

mochevolete
10th January 2009, 08:10
unfortunately I had the same undersized result with the last encode:
C:\>"C:\DL\RipBot264v1.12.0\tools\x264\x264.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 1 --bitrate 4096 --stats "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --sar 1:1 --level 4.1 --vbv-bufsize 50000 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --filter 0,0 --ref 4 --mixed-refs --bframes 4 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --partitions none --subme 3 --me dia --output "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

avis [info]: 1920x1080 @ 23.98 fps (44027 frames)

x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1

x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64

x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.1

x264 [info]: slice I:178 Avg QP:13.96 size: 12663

x264 [info]: slice P:8807 Avg QP:13.96 size: 66

x264 [info]: slice B:35042 Avg QP:12.00 size: 51

x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 1.6% 98.4%

x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 98.8% 0.0% 1.2%

x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% P16..4: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% skip:100.0%

x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% B16..8: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% direct: 0.0% skip:100.0% L0: 0.0% L1:100.0% BI: 0.0%

x264 [info]: final ratefactor: -27.14

x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:0.0% inter:14.3%

x264 [info]: direct mvs spatial:0.0% temporal:100.0%

x264 [info]: ref P L0 100.0% 0.0% 0.0%

x264 [info]: kb/s:20.1



encoded 44027 frames, 25.67 fps, 23.64 kb/s


C:\>"C:\DL\RipBot264v1.12.0\tools\x264\x264.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 2 --bitrate 4096 --stats "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --sar 1:1 --level 4.1 --vbv-bufsize 50000 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --filter 0,0 --ref 4 --mixed-refs --bframes 4 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

avis [info]: 1920x1080 @ 23.98 fps (44027 frames)

x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1

x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64

x264 [warning]: target: 4096.00 kbit/s, expected: 20.22 kbit/s, avg QP: 10.0000

x264 [warning]: try reducing target bitrate or reducing qp_min (currently 10)

x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.1

x264 [info]: slice I:178 Avg QP:41.66 size: 10420

x264 [info]: slice P:8807 Avg QP:43.56 size: 3096

x264 [info]: slice B:35042 Avg QP:46.59 size: 953

x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 1.6% 98.4%

x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 34.8% 64.9% 0.3%

x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 4.2% 3.2% 0.0% P16..4: 14.5% 0.2% 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% skip:77.7%

x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.1% 0.1% 0.0% B16..8: 12.2% 0.0% 0.0% direct: 0.0% skip:87.6% L0:37.2% L1:62.6% BI: 0.1%

x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:47.3% inter:97.9%

x264 [info]: direct mvs spatial:0.0% temporal:100.0%

x264 [info]: ref P L0 65.4% 17.4% 12.5% 4.7%

x264 [info]: ref B L0 82.9% 10.3% 6.8%

x264 [info]: kb/s:272.4



encoded 44027 frames, 6.26 fps, 272.53 kb/s


C:\>"C:\DL\RipBot264v1.12.0\tools\mkvtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o "C:\00036.mkv" --default-duration 0:23.976fps -d 0 -A -S "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" --sync 0:0 -a 0 -D -S "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.ac3" --chapters "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"

mkvmerge v2.4.0 ('Fumbling Towards Ecstasy') built on Oct 11 2008 20:10:57

'C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264': Using the AVC/h.264 ES demultiplexer.

'C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.ac3': Using the AC3 demultiplexer.

'C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264' track 0: Extracted the aspect ratio information from the MPEG-4 layer 10 (AVC) video data and set the display dimensions to 1920/1080.

'C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264' track 0: Using the MPEG-4 part 10 ES video output module.

'C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.ac3' track 0: Using the AC3 output module.

The file 'C:\00036.mkv' has been opened for writing.


The cue entries (the index) are being written...

Muxing took 39 seconds.

what's that qp_min value ? how can I prevent this ?

melmac77
10th January 2009, 12:28
create 50mb sample from first .vob. you can use DGsplit.
send sample to www.mediafire.com

Hi
Sample created
http://www.mediafire.com/?vmglzu9xmzx
thanks
Mel

jtheripper
10th January 2009, 21:24
Tested ripbot 12.0 on windows 7 64 bit worked perfectly

Atak_Snajpera
10th January 2009, 23:05
@melmac77
Does it look like 4:3 for you?
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4027/16896655gc1.th.png (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16896655gc1.png)

CyberTron88
11th January 2009, 02:25
Is the tesa algorithm activated by default? Does it improve the encoding quality?

melmac77
11th January 2009, 02:49
@melmac77
Does it look like 4:3 for you?
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4027/16896655gc1.th.png (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16896655gc1.png)

nope it looks beautiful so what is causing mine to come out 4:3 ! I have the latest ripbot installed with the installer I figure it has got to be something in ffdshow but I dont know where to look :(

nwg
11th January 2009, 04:25
I am still impressed with this software but it would really great if it automatically muxed the original sup subtitle files instead of using srt's. I have to use txmuxer again on its own to incorpate the sup's as I find suprip too inaccurate. It is also nice to have the original fonts.

~bT~
11th January 2009, 04:33
nope it looks beautiful so what is causing mine to come out 4:3 ! I have the latest ripbot installed with the installer I figure it has got to be something in ffdshow but I dont know where to look :(
delete the mplayerc.ini file from tools folder and retry (have you tried the encoded file in any other player?)

if you still get no joy...

uninstall ffdshow, reinstall ffdshow and reset settings.

bigggt
11th January 2009, 14:00
delete the mplayerc.ini file from tools folder and retry (have you tried the encoded file in any other player?)

if you still get no joy...

uninstall ffdshow, reinstall ffdshow and reset settings.

what settings are you supposed to use with ffdshow , i seen it in this thread but can't find it

thanks

melmac77
11th January 2009, 14:21
delete the mplayerc.ini file from tools folder and retry (have you tried the encoded file in any other player?)

if you still get no joy...

uninstall ffdshow, reinstall ffdshow and reset settings.


Bt Thank you so much for trying to help. Deleting the mplayerc.ini file worked !! I am now busy making mkv's for the tvix thank you :)
:thanks:

Mel

prettyboy85712
11th January 2009, 16:49
delete the mplayerc.ini file from tools folder and retry (have you tried the encoded file in any other player?)

if you still get no joy...

uninstall ffdshow, reinstall ffdshow and reset settings.

Wow. This seems to have correct my problem with Terminator:The Sarah Connor Chronicles. :thanks:

update.

My mkv files are now encoded with the correct aspect ratio of 16/9, but it appears that tsmuxer when I append the files and covert them to Blu-ray they are changing to 4:3. Strange

mochevolete
11th January 2009, 18:03
after getting almost mad I've figure out that under Xp everything works as expected, so there's something wrong under Vista...
what could cause the ultra low bitrate used during the encodes under Vista ?
Avisynth ? ffdshow ?
obviously I have the latest and suggested revs. installed ...

wich tool is used in the very firts part of the analyzing that decide the wrong bitrate to use later ?

Nik

survivant001
11th January 2009, 23:08
bug when m2ts splitting activated and when target sine is smaller than the split value. EX : I put split a 4 gigs. but my target is 1500 gigs.

the results is :

C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1>"D:\DVD-tools\RipBot264v1.12.0\tools\tsmuxer\tsmuxer.
exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\tsmuxer.meta" "C:\i-septic.bluray"
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.8.8(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.0 Resolution: 1280:688p Frame
rate: 23.976
0.0% complete
Too small split interval

tsmuxer.meta
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --split-size=4GiBGiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\audio.ac3"


you should check if the target < target.. then no split.

thehuey
12th January 2009, 20:56
I have a question. I've been using RipBot264 for quite some time and only recently did it start to not work.

Here's what happens:

After about ~4 successful uses on a fresh install of Windows/FFDshow/Avisynth/Haali Media Splitter, when it finishes demuxing an MKV, WMVHD, M2TS or "whatever" the case may be, it opens up MPC and spits out an ACM Wrapper::Output error and does absolutely nothing else. The files are deleted automatically from the temp folder where the demuxed files rest every time.

I change absolutely nothing. I've tried uninstalling FFDShow, Avisynth and Haali... I have no codec packs isntalled whatsoever. I've noticed it does this mostly on VC-1 sources but it has done it on a few AVC sources as well.

The only solution I've come up with thus far is a reformat on my PC. However, as one might imagine, that's a long and laborious process that isn't really worth it, in my opinion.

I've tried looking through the 180 pages, I've done a search on ACM Wrapper::Output and haven't come up with any solutions. Everything is set to decode with libavcodec.

Please, if you have any help whatsoever I'd greatly appreciate it. I really don't like reformatting everytime RipBot stops working correctly for me.

Atak_Snajpera
12th January 2009, 21:37
Send me sample! www.mediafire.com Use dgsplit

alc0re
13th January 2009, 16:56
@atak

why is there stuff about downmixing and resampling audio in the avs script when I select copy audio? I know something is happening with the audio cause I usually select Cut but is it actually re-encoding the audio? I don't want to re-encode a lossy format, I want to preserve the quality of the original ripped audio track.

Also, is there any way you could add support for unicode .srt files? I currently have to convert my subs from unicode produced .srt files output from suprip to ansi. not that big of a deal except that there are certain special characters i loose when doing that...like the music symbols that are in some subtitles (like eastern promises has them a lot.) What settings are being used in tsMuxer for subs? (Font, size, offset.) Is there a way for me to specify those settings used?

jibelin
13th January 2009, 19:10
Atak et al,

Is there a way to preserve the DTS or Dolby Digital HD Audio? I am using a TVIX HD-6500 and it supports the HD audio so would like to select an option to avoid the downmix...

Please advise and many thanks!

NiGHTsC
13th January 2009, 23:15
what does the error message
Couldn't open input file in HIDE mode! Exiting.
mean???Something wrong with source. Open .vob in DGIndex and see what's happening.hm what should happen? anything I should set in DGIndex?
I opened it and saved it into project .d2v without change any settings, but what next?
Ripbot can't read d2v file.

Using newest version, v1.12

Thank you.

wolfbane5
14th January 2009, 17:44
I've been having some problems creating a proper encode of Underworld Evolution from bluray. The bluray says the movie has a 2.40:1 AR which is displayed in the .ts that I created when I ripped the movie. However, once I load the .ts into ripbot and try to crop the borders automatically, ripbot overcrops. I've always used 'crop automatically' and have never had a problem yet. I suppose there's a first for everything.

I tried cropping manually by going back and forth between the preview and ripbot, but at some point the preview stops showing the cropping changes.

Originally I thought that the bluray was incorrect with the AR and trusted ripbot's analysis. However, once I looked at the mkv, the video seemed squished (--> <--) horizontally. I also looked the credits and they were not centred. Instead, they were more towards the bottom-right corner.

I will attach a sample of the original .ts and the final .mkv as soon as mediafire have completed their server maintenance. I have attached .jpg's of the problem I encountered. autocrop.jpg shows what ripbot automatically crops the movie to and autocrop.preview.jpg shows what the automatic crop looks like in terms of the video.

Hopefully someone can help me out. Thanks.

Edit: I'm using v1.12.0. nocrop.preview.jpg shows what the movie looks like without cropping.

Edit2: http://www.mediafire.com/file/t2qmjzkxnzi/ue.master.clip.ts

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nhyzrgrd4y2/ue.test.clip.mkv

1st clip is the disc rip in a .ts and the 2nd is the test encode I did.

rack04
14th January 2009, 19:57
Isn't Level 4.0 restricted to --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 20000?

Dark Shikari
14th January 2009, 20:02
Isn't Level 4.0 restricted to --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 20000?*1.25 for high profile.

Ashmodai
14th January 2009, 20:20
now that AC3 in mp4 container is officially supported
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1168961#post1168961
Do you plan on adding this functionality to ripbot ?

rack04
14th January 2009, 22:35
*1.25 for high profile.

The reason I ask is because when encoding at level 4.0 and using --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 I get a warning about bufsize (25000) and maxrate (20000) level limit.

Dark Shikari
14th January 2009, 22:45
The reason I ask is because when encoding at level 4.0 and using --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 I get a warning about bufsize (25000) and maxrate (20000) level limit.Then either you're not using High Profile, or your x264 is too old.

$ x264 --level 4 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 --8x8dct -o NUL SOCCER
_352x288_30_orig_02.yuv --bitrate 1000
x264 [info]: file name gives 352x288
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.0

rack04
14th January 2009, 23:56
Then either you're not using High Profile, or your x264 is too old.

$ x264 --level 4 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 --8x8dct -o NUL SOCCER
_352x288_30_orig_02.yuv --bitrate 1000
x264 [info]: file name gives 352x288
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.0

I think I understand now.

1st pass is main profile and 2nd pass is high profile. That is why I only get this warning in 1st pass.

x264.exe --pass 1 --bitrate 7854 --stats "C:\Personal\Videos\sample.stats" --level 4 --keyint 24
--min-keyint 1 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid --weightb --direct auto --deblock -1:-1 --subme 2
--partitions none --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 --qcomp 0.5 --me dia --merange 24 --threads auto
--thread-input --sar 1:1 --aud --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output NUL "C:\Personal\Videos\sample.avs"
--mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd --sar 1:1
avis [info]: 1280x544 @ 23.98 fps (256 frames)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [warning]: VBV bitrate (24000) > level limit (20000)
x264 [warning]: VBV buffer (30000) > level limit (25000)
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 4.0

x264.exe --pass 2 --bitrate 7854 --stats "C:\Personal\Videos\sample.stats" --level 4 --keyint 24
--min-keyint 1 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --no-fast-pskip --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid --weightb
--direct auto --deblock -1:-1 --subme 8 --trellis 2 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct
--vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 --qcomp 0.5 --me umh --merange 24 --threads auto --thread-input
--sar 1:1 --aud --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "C:\Personal\Videos\sample.mp4"
"C:\Personal\Videos\sample.avs" --mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd --sar 1:1
avis [info]: 1280x544 @ 23.98 fps (256 frames)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.0

Atak_Snajpera
15th January 2009, 14:41
@wolfbane5
if your source is 2.40 then correct crop values will be TOP=140 , BOTTOM=140

1920 / 2.4 = 800
1080 - 800 = 280
280 / 2 = 140

AutoCrop may not work well with dark movies therefore I added Manual crop.

brogan
15th January 2009, 16:26
Hello,


I just recently moved from Vista Ultimate 64-bit to Windows 7 64-Bit...I also updated my copy of RipBot from 1.11.5 to 1.12.0...prior to the update, everything worked correctly but since the update, I can't see a preview in wmp classic...the encodes still work, but when I attempt to preview them, I get: Cannot render file...using 1080p files or 720p...mostly using .mkv files (occasionally .ts or .m2ts files) all w/DTS or 5.1DD audio...I'm using a i7 920 quad core cpu w/6 GB of triple channel memory, if that helps...I believe its a codec issue, just not sure how to fix it...the research I did, it was suggested to install the K-lite codec pack (which I know I don't want to do using RipBot)
Please help!! I updated RipBot & went to Windows 7 w/in 48 hours of each other so I'm not sure where the problem lies...anyone else having any similiar issues?? Thanks

prettyboy85712
15th January 2009, 17:30
Hello,


I just recently moved from Vista Ultimate 64-bit to Windows 7 64-Bit...I also updated my copy of RipBot from 1.11.5 to 1.12.0...prior to the update, everything worked correctly but since the update, I can't see a preview in wmp classic...the encodes still work, but when I attempt to preview them, I get: Cannot render file...using 1080p files or 720p...mostly using .mkv files (occasionally .ts or .m2ts files) all w/DTS or 5.1DD audio...I'm using a i7 920 quad core cpu w/6 GB of triple channel memory, if that helps...I believe its a codec issue, just not sure how to fix it...the research I did, it was suggested to install the K-lite codec pack (which I know I don't want to do using RipBot)
Please help!! I updated RipBot & went to Windows 7 w/in 48 hours of each other so I'm not sure where the problem lies...anyone else having any similiar issues?? Thanks

Try reinstalling AviSynth.

wolfbane5
15th January 2009, 17:39
@wolfbane5
if your source is 2.40 then correct crop values will be TOP=140 , BOTTOM=140

1920 / 2.4 = 800
1080 - 800 = 280
280 / 2 = 140

AutoCrop may not work well with dark movies therefore I added Manual crop.

Yea, the entire movie is quite dark. No cropping required for left or right?

brogan
15th January 2009, 23:22
Try reinstalling AviSynth.

Thank you for the advice. I uninstalled Avisynth & ffdshow then re-installed them...using the newest build of Avisynth & for ffdshow, I'm trying the rev 2605, I read that it's supposed work well w/a fast cpu. I have a i7 Quad Core so I should be good w/that. After reinstalling these, I'm able to get the preview showing in WMP Classic. Now, my problem is the audio is out of sync when playing the preview. If I play the files in Nero Showtime, it plays in sync. Does anyone know what could cause this?? Thanks again for the help, it's much appreciated...

Atak_Snajpera
15th January 2009, 23:42
Try ffdshow MT

brogan
15th January 2009, 23:52
Try ffdshow MT

That's what I installed, rev 2605 20090110 xxl mt
...I was using rev 2615 20090112 clsid but read that the mt version would give increased performance (speed) when encoding...you had mentioned getting like (correct me if I'm wrong) like 80 fps, is that right? That's amazing, I'm lucky to hit the high 30s during the 1st pass...I had an AMD FX-60 before I rebuilt my main PC (mainly to speed up my encodes) & I can do 3-4 jobs @ 1080p w/either DTS or AC3 (8150MB) in the time it would take me to do 1 on my older rig...if you have any suggestions what I can do to increase the speed, please let me know...thanks for all your hard work, Atak!!

Atak_Snajpera
16th January 2009, 00:26
80 fps in PLAYBACK not in encoding. I was just testing decoding performance in ffdshow mt!!!

I can do to increase the speed, please let me know...thanks for all your hard work, Atak!!
Buy quad core like me or even better i7 quad core:)

brogan
16th January 2009, 00:52
80 fps in PLAYBACK not in encoding. I was just testing decoding performance in ffdshow mt!!!


Buy quad core like me or even better i7 quad core:)


I have an i7 920 Quad Core (not overclocked), 6 GB Triple Channel Corsair Dominator 1600 memory, my OS on a SAS Fujitsu 73.5 GB drive (storage drives are a 500 Gb & 1 TB SATA) w/GTX 260 Nvidia video card...

Atak_Snajpera
16th January 2009, 00:59
I have Q6600@3ghz and I'm very happy. Movie is always ready when I wake up in the morning :)

wolfbane5
16th January 2009, 20:29
Atak, the encoding of underworld evolution worked flawlessly after your suggestion. Thanks again.

prettyboy85712
16th January 2009, 21:13
I have an i7 920 Quad Core (not overclocked), 6 GB Triple Channel Corsair Dominator 1600 memory, my OS on a SAS Fujitsu 73.5 GB drive (storage drives are a 500 Gb & 1 TB SATA) w/GTX 260 Nvidia video card...

I'm running almost the same specs. i720, 3GB memory, 2xTB hard drives,1TB NAS, and a Radeon HD4870.

iwens
16th January 2009, 23:43
Is it possible to make it so that u can also downconvert dts-hd to dts now only option is ac3, i would also love an dts output option.

Is this something u can integrate easily ?

Atak_Snajpera
17th January 2009, 00:44
eac3to is set to always extract dts core from DTS-HD. Just leave Copy Stream opion.

weaver4
17th January 2009, 03:55
I just tried Ripbot264 version 1.12.0 on Window 7. It told me I needed to install Splitter and ffdshow which I did. But when I add a video it does not index, it just sits there. No errors, it just does not index or return. The filename does not show up in the Video text box and no entry is in the status bar.

I did have the old version running on WinXP.


UPDATE====================================

I went into Ripbot264.ini and changed the DefaultOutputPath and StoreTempFilesin to point to locations that I knew Win7 could read and write to and then it started working properly.

Just in case others have the same problem.

MrVideo
17th January 2009, 08:17
What is missing from the first posting is what you do with the file after it has been downloaded.

There must be others like me who have never run across whatever was used the "compress" this executable.

Simple instructions would be nice.

BTW, Google searching came up empty (at least there was nothing in the list that indicted that it was instructions).

EDIT: Found it. It would still be nice to reference that 7zip is used to compress the file. Never heard of it before.

nurbs
17th January 2009, 10:21
Both google and wikipedia show 7zip as the first result when I enter .7z

iwens
17th January 2009, 10:55
eac3to is set to always extract dts core from DTS-HD. Just leave Copy Stream opion.

I tried that but then i cannot stretch it anymore as i am recoding to 25 fps (my plasma has no 24p mode) as an result the audio in the encoded file is out of sync.

nwg
17th January 2009, 12:40
WinRar will also extract the file.

Bajunid
17th January 2009, 19:11
Atak..I sorta found a bug...maybe..

I'm using the latest version..1.12.0.

I'm encoding some clips for my Walkman. which only plays Baseline L@1.3 files.

If I use CQ 22 (or any other number)...the file worked fine.
But if I use the 2pass mode...it won't work. So I decided to check why...

Upon checking with Avinaptic...I found out that by using 2pass mode, the file generated uses Baseline L@4.1 when I check with Avinaptic...Here's the data generated by Avinaptic

SPS id: 0
Profile: Baseline@L4.1 NOTICE THIs LINE
Num ref frames: 1
Aspect ratio: Square pixels
Chroma format idc: YUV 4:2:0
PPS id: 0 (SPS: 0)
Entropy coding type: CAVLC
Weighted prediction: No
Weighted bipred idc: No
8x8dct: No

[ Profile compliancy ]

Profile to check: MTK PAL 6000
Resolution: Ok
Framerate: Ok
Warning: If you need a more complete report, then click on "DRF analysis"

This report was created by AVInaptic (http://fsinapsi.altervista.org) (18-11-2007) on 18 gen 2009, h 02:08:12

It's be great if this can be fixed as I'm trying to encode several file and I need it to be of specific size rather than quality.

p/s: If I use the CQ mode the data generated by Avinaptic is correct. Baseline@L1.3

Atak_Snajpera
17th January 2009, 19:30
I prefer MediaInfo log. You will find it in tools dirctory.

MrVideo
17th January 2009, 22:11
Both google and wikipedia show 7zip as the first result when I enter .7z

Ya, after I figured out that .7z was related to that. When I noticed that there was a link to MediaInfo.7z, the common .7z gave me the hint to try 7z with Google :D

All is good now.

MrVideo
17th January 2009, 22:13
WinRar will also extract the file.

I don't have WinRAR and this particular box.

I learned something new yesterday. It is a good day when you learn something new.

MrVideo
17th January 2009, 22:34
I thought I had created a simple Blu-ray DVD-ROM, but when I went to play it, the Sony Blu-Ray player said that it couldn't.

The source file was a short 35 second MPEG-2 transport stream video with MP2 audio.

I noticed that the .m2ts file was 93MB, which is wrong, as it should be a lot smaller and H.264. That seems to be a MPEG-2 compression of the original MPEG-2 file (200MB @ 37Mbps). How do I make it do H.264 for AVCHD?

After the .bluray folder was created, I just burned the contents of that folder onto a DVD (which contained two folders). Is that not correct?

MrVideo
17th January 2009, 22:47
Related to the above query...

If I have a MKV file that contains H.264 video and MP2 audio, how to I get RipBot264 to just take the H.264 video that has already been encoded and create a Blu-ray compatible AVCHD DVD, without re-encoding the video?

The audio can be re-encoded from MP2 to AAC. I don't want to re-encode the video.

prettyboy85712
18th January 2009, 00:20
I thought I had created a simple Blu-ray DVD-ROM, but when I went to play it, the Sony Blu-Ray player said that it couldn't.

The source file was a short 35 second MPEG-2 transport stream video with MP2 audio.

I noticed that the .m2ts file was 93MB, which is wrong, as it should be a lot smaller and H.264. That seems to be a MPEG-2 compression of the original MPEG-2 file (200MB @ 37Mbps). How do I make it do H.264 for AVCHD?

After the .bluray folder was created, I just burned the contents of that folder onto a DVD (which contained two folders). Is that not correct?

You need to build an image. You can't just burn the contents to DVD.

prettyboy85712
18th January 2009, 00:21
Related to the above query...

If I have a MKV file that contains H.264 video and MP2 audio, how to I get RipBot264 to just take the H.264 video that has already been encoded and create a Blu-ray compatible AVCHD DVD, without re-encoding the video?

The audio can be re-encoded from MP2 to AAC. I don't want to re-encode the video.

Use tsmuxer, not RipBot264.

MrVideo
18th January 2009, 03:01
You need to build an image. You can't just burn the contents to DVD.

Thanks. I wondered about that. But since there isn't a manual, I didn't know that. What is suggested as a program to do that?

MrVideo
18th January 2009, 03:21
Use tsmuxer, not RipBot264.

Thanks, I never noticed that Blu-ray output was there as an option. I've always used it to remake TS file from MPV and AC3 files.

mochevolete
18th January 2009, 12:03
does the x264 version included in the tools use the Intel i7 optimization ?

nurbs
18th January 2009, 13:10
Every x264 version after the core i7 came out has the optimizations.

jfcarbel
18th January 2009, 14:32
Does RipBot include option to cut end credits?

About how much space on average can actually be saved doing this for a blu-ray movie?
Just wondering if this is another significant option in reducing BD50 to fit on BD25.

Any risk to audio getting out of sync?
Anyone here done this successfully and what is best way to make sure you are only cutting the credits and not more?

prettyboy85712
18th January 2009, 19:53
Thanks. I wondered about that. But since there isn't a manual, I didn't know that. What is suggested as a program to do that?

I personally use Imageburn.

prettyboy85712
18th January 2009, 19:54
Does RipBot include option to cut end credits?

About how much space on average can actually be saved doing this for a blu-ray movie?
Just wondering if this is another significant option in reducing BD50 to fit on BD25.

Any risk to audio getting out of sync?
Anyone here done this successfully and what is best way to make sure you are only cutting the credits and not more?

Are you doing movie only?

jamd1
19th January 2009, 00:12
Does RipBot include option to cut end credits?

About how much space on average can actually be saved doing this for a blu-ray movie?
Just wondering if this is another significant option in reducing BD50 to fit on BD25.

Any risk to audio getting out of sync?
Anyone here done this successfully and what is best way to make sure you are only cutting the credits and not more?

The best way is to remux the cut movie with tsmuxer first - you can cut the movie to any length you want - then add the cut movie into ripbobt. Downside is that ripbot will sometimes then produce an OOS sound especially if the original movie files are multiple joined or if sound is trusound.

MrVideo
19th January 2009, 01:30
I personally use Imageburn.

Nero7 worked perfect. The instructions on Afterdawn.com laid it out step-by-step.

Atak_Snajpera
19th January 2009, 01:37
Nero soft reminds me HUGE HEAVY COW!!! That's why I prefer Imgburn!

~bT~
19th January 2009, 11:06
Does RipBot include option to cut end credits?

u can always use the trim() function of avisynth.

mikelebron
19th January 2009, 15:18
Guys.. where did you get ffdshow MT.. I want to try it out..thanks

Atak_Snajpera
19th January 2009, 15:42
ffdshow.info

prettyboy85712
19th January 2009, 16:07
Guys.. where did you get ffdshow MT.. I want to try it out..thanksHere you go. LINK (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245)

Blackwalker
19th January 2009, 23:32
someone suggest me this to extract the "TRUE-HD" audio track:
eac3to X:\ where X is the letter of your blu-ray/hddvd drive

eac3to will provide you with a list of playlists from the disc.
Find under which section the truehd audio track you are looking for is ( 1), 2), etc.) and
then add that to the command line you typed before. So it should look like:

eac3to X:\ #) where # is the number of the playlist

Once that command is entered it will show you something like this:

1: chapters
2: video track
3: video/audio track
etc.

Find which number corresponds to the audio track you're looking for. The command line will look like this now:

eac3to X:\ #) *: "audioTrack.thd" where *= track number; audiotrack = the directory where you're saving the
truehd audio file and .thd is the file type.

Once you have both the video and audio track, load the video track into tsmuxer,
hit append and load the audio track. Make sure both tracks are selected in the check box area
and then you can save the file with both video and audio.

All of what I've written here is demonstrated visually near the end of the "How-To-Use" page
of the eac3to wikibook located here:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Eac3to/How_to_Use.

i do it.
Now i have a file (1.2GB) named "audioTrack.thd".
I try to load it into tsmuxer but it wont load, it say "Can't detect stream type..."

what i did wrong???

someone can help me pls?
thx!

Atak_Snajpera
20th January 2009, 00:59
TSmuxer can not import TrueHD! It's a bug!

Blackwalker
20th January 2009, 08:06
TSmuxer can not import TrueHD! It's a bug!
thx Atak for the info.

- i just have the ".2mts" files of some movie that fit into a 25gb blank blu-ray (with video, audio and subtitles tracks)
- i extracted the "TRUE-HD" audio track using eac3to

and now?
how can i join now the audio/video and subtitles tracks?

someone?
thx again! :)

Blackwalker
20th January 2009, 15:19
nobody? plz

alc0re
20th January 2009, 18:19
blackwalker....first off extract everything with eac3to..the video, audio and subtitle track. 2nd, where you went wrong is you extracted the truehd track as a truehd track, which is still the same issue of tsmuxer not being able to accept a truehd track. When you extract the audio track, name the extension as .ac3 and it will just pull out the core of the truehd track. Don't just rename the already extracted truehd track you have. You need to do it again. Let me do an example.

Lets say your file is called movie.m2ts (by the way I dont know why you just have the one m2ts file...a movie isn't always stored in one of those files...sometimes is spans multiple m2ts files.)

So, you do a command on that file like : eac3to movie.m2ts

Eac3to will list something like the following :

M2TS, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 8 subtitle tracks, 2:02:46
1: Chapters, 16 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: TrueHD/AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
(embedded: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB)
4: TrueHD/AC3, German, 5.1 channels, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
(embedded: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB)
5: AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: Subtitle (PGS), English
7: Subtitle (PGS), English

As you can see track 3 is a truehd track, with an embedded ac3 5.1 track. For this example (and yours will be very similar) do the following command to pull out the video track, the audio track (the core, not the whole truehd track) and the 2 subtitle tracks.

eac3to movie.m2ts 2:"c:\Movie\Video.mkv" 3:"c:\Movie\Audio.ac3" 6:"c:\Movie\Sub1.sup" 7:"c:\Movie\Sub2.sup"

Notice the audio line. I named it .ac3 instead of .thd. The simple process of putting it in as .ac3 will tell eac3to that it should just extract the .ac3 file and not the full truehd file. Once you have all those extracted remux them with tsmuxer. Just add the .mkv, the .ac3, and the subs.

side note : If it was a dts master audio file, you would need to name the file .dts and add the -core option.
Example 2:"c:\Movie\Audio.dts" -core

Blackwalker
20th January 2009, 19:29
thx a lot alc0re for your help :)
i'll try when i'll get home!
thx thx thx again!!!!

Blackwalker
21st January 2009, 07:58
back home!
i'm trying just now.

just one question:

...you say "name the extension as .ac3" and "Notice the audio line. I named it .ac3 instead of .thd. The simple process of putting it in as .ac3 will tell eac3to that it should just extract the .ac3 file and not the full truehd file."

so i'm doing just a downcovert from true-hd to ac3? i mean i'm extracting the ac3 audio track
and not the full-hd track?

If this is correct, i think is the same thing if i use tsmuxer, selecting the audio true-hd track and telling to downconvert to ac3, or no?

If this is correct, there is no other way to extract the "TRUE-HD" audio track and join it with the video and subtitles?

thx again for your help!! :)

alc0re
21st January 2009, 17:32
that's correct. its just extracting the base ac3 information. You can do it with tsmuxer or eac3to. i prefer extracting audio using eac3to. other ways....no idea. not sure why you would need other ways though...eac3to is a great program.

nwg
21st January 2009, 18:20
He wants to keep the TrueHD track though. One way is still use Eac3to but save it as THD+AC3. This will extract the TrueHD and the AC3 core into one audio file. TsMuxer will accept this.

For ease, I use the Blu Ray/HD DVD Stream Extractor GUI for Eac3to. I then select THD+AC3 from the drop down list for the right audio track.

Blackwalker
21st January 2009, 23:18
He wants to keep the TrueHD track though. One way is still use Eac3to but save it as THD+AC3. This will extract the TrueHD and the AC3 core into one audio file. TsMuxer will accept this.

For ease, I use the Blu Ray/HD DVD Stream Extractor GUI for Eac3to. I then select THD+AC3 from the drop down list for the right audio track.

thats what i try to say...maybe i write it wrong, but it exactly what i need.
I'll find this "Blu Ray/HD DVD Stream Extractor GUI for Eac3to". I'll check on doom9.org for it.

or, if you have time nwg, can you point me in the right direction where i can find it?

thx a lot nwg! :)

nwg
21st January 2009, 23:30
thats what i try to say...maybe i write it wrong, but it exactly what i need.
I'll find this "Blu Ray/HD DVD Stream Extractor GUI for Eac3to". I'll check on doom9.org for it.

or, if you have time nwg, can you point me in the right direction where i can find it?

thx a lot nwg! :)

It's on the forum. It has to be copied inside the eac3to folder.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829&highlight=eac3to

asarian
21st January 2009, 23:51
TSmuxer can not import TrueHD! It's a bug!

Then he shouldn't import. :) If he has the m2ts file, why not just simply load it into tsMuxeR and deselect every stream, but the ones he wants (video + TrueHD track) and remux it?

Saves him the convoluted trouble of first extracting to .thd, then finding ways to import it again, etc.

nwg
22nd January 2009, 00:03
What does TsMuxer do to TrueHD to make it not work? I haven't had any problems yet with it.

gimme2
22nd January 2009, 05:26
First of all, thank you Atak_Snajpera for such a great program.

Secondly I have few feature requests/suggestions. I am a real newbie when it comes to encoding so bare with me please.
1. Could you add an option for copy video stream? I will explain: Using RipBot I have reencoded an exiting mkv that would not play on my ps3 into mp4 using the console profile. I have noticed that by default the audio was set to "stream copy". The mp4 is playable on the ps3 now but audio is missing some channels and/or some channels are played at extremely slow speed. The mp4 plays nicely on pc. The video copy would have helped me greatly, since I would be able to reencode/downmix the audio only, instead of reencoding the whole think, using some other GUI or learnig how all the command line tools work and piecing the script together my self.

2. I have tried to convert mov to mp4 but RipBot would not get pass extracting audio. I have went into the temp folder and by playing the job1.avs I got an AviSynth error: YV12 for output must have a width divisible by 4 (use crop). Well I went on and read up on avisynth, fixed the getinfo.avs, ran it, copied the info.txt elsewhere, aborted the import job and started again. Then I have waited until ripbot extracts the audio and when it tried to gather the info about the mov i have copied the info.txt back. After this the ripbot was able to finish the import. Before I started encoding I edited the job1.avs so it crops the video. Even though it was fun and learning experience it would be great if ripbot could detect this on its own if at all possible.

3. would it be possible for ripbot to get it's own forum/subforum? it is really hard/borderline impossible to sift through 190+ pages of users problems and suggestions to find if somebody already had a problem similar to mine.

Thanks again and keep up the great work.

Blackwalker
22nd January 2009, 07:56
What does TsMuxer do to TrueHD to make it not work? I haven't had any problems yet with it.

You are right nwg!
i'd like to know why dont work for me....!



updated:

if i play the original "m2ts" file (with mplayer classic) with the true-hd audio track, before creating the blu-ray structure, i dont hear the audio!!! strange..



So i load tsmuxer, then i select to create a blu-ray structure.
when done, i try to play the "BDMV\STREAM\xxx.m2ts" file created inside the blu-ray structure and the video is ok but i dont hear the audio again!! strange..

i have installed:
- ffdshow [rev 2527] [2008-12-19]
- Haali Media Splitter
- nero 9 lite (maybe this is a problem?)

i try to play the same files with powerdvd8 but when i load the files looks like powerdvd8 feeze...

strange...:confused: help! :(


updated:
removed the ffdshow and installed the "ffdshow_rev2530_20081222_xxl_mt.exe"
same iussue! damn...


PS:
this is the info with Mediainfo:

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : TrueHD
Duration : 1h 40mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Blackwalker
22nd January 2009, 08:33
i'm trying to uninstall and install again powerdvd8 deluxe to see if it work...

nothing...same iussue!
powerdvd 8 ultra wont play the m2ts file with true-hd audio.
it play fine other m2ts files without true-hd audio.

dunno what to try now...any suggestion, help?
thx!!!

vamsiklak
22nd January 2009, 14:35
You are right nwg!
i'd like to know why dont work for me....!



updated:

if i play the original "m2ts" file (with mplayer classic) with the true-hd audio track, before creating the blu-ray structure, i dont hear the audio!!! strange..



So i load tsmuxer, then i select to create a blu-ray structure.
when done, i try to play the "BDMV\STREAM\xxx.m2ts" file created inside the blu-ray structure and the video is ok but i dont hear the audio again!! strange..

i have installed:
- ffdshow [rev 2527] [2008-12-19]
- Haali Media Splitter
- nero 9 lite (maybe this is a problem?)

i try to play the same files with powerdvd8 but when i load the files looks like powerdvd8 feeze...

strange...:confused: help! :(


updated:
removed the ffdshow and installed the "ffdshow_rev2530_20081222_xxl_mt.exe"
same iussue! damn...


PS:
this is the info with Mediainfo:

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : TrueHD
Duration : 1h 40mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

It happened to me as the same situation
but i made a iso image and burn it to disc .It did work.
My Question is does this plays on standalone player

vamsiklak
22nd January 2009, 14:37
i did same with LPCM and DTS-HD it works on the disc

let see if anybody had the solution or answers when they burn on bd-discs

Blackwalker
22nd January 2009, 17:39
i did same with LPCM and DTS-HD it works on the disc

let see if anybody had the solution or answers when they burn on bd-discs

what you mean??
you mean that you dont hear the sound on the computer, burned anyway the blu-ray disc, and when you
play it on your player you hear the sound?
(ps: sorry but my english suck!) :)

vamsiklak
22nd January 2009, 18:17
on computer no i didn't her the sound
but if i made as iso image and use virtual drive or burn it to bluray disc it works flawlessly on computer

i donot have standalone player to check
and thats the question i have..
if we rip with tsmuxer keeping the lpcm or dts-hd does standalone players play as regular discs!!!!!!!???

Blackwalker
22nd January 2009, 19:31
on computer no i didn't her the sound
but if i made as iso image and use virtual drive or burn it to bluray disc it works flawlessly on computer


i dint think about it lol,
i'll make a try!

i'll try to burn it anyway (also if i didnt hear the sound) and see if on player
the movie play fine :)

i'll let you know when i'll come back home!
nice idea, thx!

(at last i'll lose 1 blu-ray blank disc!!) :)

Blackwalker
22nd January 2009, 23:42
ok, i burned anyway the movie but the audio is not fluid and, dunno how to say...the audio backlashed/snap/dash/click...damn!!

someone can help me to find wich is the problem?
what i can check..do..?

hope someone can help me!! :(
thx!

bigggt
23rd January 2009, 01:08
what are you guys using for Popcorn Hour

i use the level 4.0 hd profile and cq 22 but know it could be better

final size is not important(to a degree) , just wondering how all you popcorn hour users are doing the encodes

thanks

nurbs
23rd January 2009, 06:52
If you want better quality just lower the crf (cq number) till you find something that's okay for you.

DonRon
23rd January 2009, 17:46
hi

in the Blu-Ray structure page I chose english subs

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd277/1000BUGs/Untitled-106.jpg

but i cant see them in the job page ?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd277/1000BUGs/Untitled-104.jpg

and when the jobs done theres no subs, how come when i chose them like i did with audio and video ?




cheers and thanks for the work on ripbot




thanks

wolfbane5
23rd January 2009, 19:07
DonRon,

click on the properties button. There will be 3 sections of options. One of the sections has the subtitles option.

alc0re
23rd January 2009, 20:09
DonRon,

click on the properties button. There will be 3 sections of options. One of the sections has the subtitles option.


That properties button will take you to the avs script options, which will let you hardcode subs into the movie. If that's what you're looking for that will work. If you're looking to have switchable subs (switch them on or off) then that will not be what you're looking for.

Right above the "lock size" option on the bottom right there is a "subtitles" button. Have you tried clicking that and seeing if the subtitles are there? That's where you add subs that are switchable, and ripbot i believe should be putting in the subs there automatically since you're using ripbot's interface to demux the streams...

nwg
23rd January 2009, 21:15
Right above the "lock size" option on the bottom right there is a "subtitles" button. Have you tried clicking that and seeing if the subtitles are there? That's where you add subs that are switchable, and ripbot i believe should be putting in the subs there automatically since you're using ripbot's interface to demux the streams...

I have asked about subs before. That section is for srt format subtitles. It is expected to turn the demuxed sup subtitles into srt subtitles by using ocr and something like suprip.

I find it is easier to use ripbot then process through Tsmuxer again but add the subtitles manually. Of course it would be easier if ripbot added these sup's itself.

laserfan
23rd January 2009, 21:32
Currently these are set on a per-job basis--wondering if they could be added to RipBot264.ini, so one can set preferred defaults (for 2-pass and bluray)?

DonRon
23rd January 2009, 21:59
thanks for the replay guys

I want softcoded (switchable) subs, and i have allready selected them in the Blu-Ray structure page

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd277/1000BUGs/Untitled-106.jpg

so it must be a bug

prettyboy85712
23rd January 2009, 23:22
hi

in the Blu-Ray structure page I chose english subs

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd277/1000BUGs/Untitled-106.jpg

but i cant see them in the job page ?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd277/1000BUGs/Untitled-104.jpg

and when the jobs done theres no subs, how come when i chose them like i did with audio and video ?




cheers and thanks for the work on ripbot




thanks

How did you test it?

DonRon
23rd January 2009, 23:33
you can test it if you make an image of the blu-ray folders and mount it

VCD for mounting and PowerDVD 8 for playing


cheers

Blackwalker
24th January 2009, 07:03
ok, i burned anyway the movie but the audio is not fluid and, dunno how to say...the audio backlashed/snap/dash/click...damn!!

someone can help me to find wich is the problem?
what i can check..do..?

hope someone can help me!! :(
thx!

ho well, no solution...so i'll downconvert the true-hd audio to dts or ac3 640kbps

vamsiklak
24th January 2009, 12:57
ho well, no solution...so i'll downconvert the true-hd audio to dts or ac3 640kbps

By using Tmuxer..!!!?
does it work...!!!??
i never tried dit though

Blackwalker
24th January 2009, 21:10
By using Tmuxer..!!!?
does it work...!!!??
i never tried dit though

yes, it work perfectly! :)

jtheripper
24th January 2009, 21:53
Dolby TrueHD is a pain to work with. No problem extracting it with either eac3to or tsremux. The problem is remuxing which only tsmuxer can do and it usually (but not always) screws it up. You can also try to remux the m2ts file from tsmuxer with tsremux and occasionally that will fix the truhd. If you are using a DVD-9 then just use ripbot to convert it to ac3. However if you want to use it on a BD-25 or mkv then convert it to lpcm using eac3to. These are the safest and easiest approaches at this point until (and if) tsmuxer fixes the truhd bug.

steff517
24th January 2009, 23:58
Hi there,
is there any way I can copy more than one audio track to the target mkv file? Same question with subtitles.

This would be really great. Currently, I'm doing it manually afterwards.

BlindBandit
25th January 2009, 02:34
Hey Atak_Snajpera, i really like your program it's nice, easy to use & work great on my PS3. keep up the great work :D
also is this the best setting for anime?
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9099/settingtb3.jpg

also how can i get Avisynth MT & ffdshow MT to work on Ripbot264 on vista 64 because i install it right & how do i know if it's working even i install it thanks.

HighDefPro
25th January 2009, 09:26
I have a couple questions about using ripbot264 to change vc-1 to h264 so I can stream through the ps3.

I have the original files ripped onto my computer. Can I change the vc-1 stream to h264, and once thats done I will have a new file. I want to Go back into ts muxer and load the new video stream and use the original audio stream and create a m2ts file? I will then have a new m2ts file that I can stream through my ps3. Will this work? Also if I want the absolute highest quality do I just use 0 cq, or is there other things I need to change as well?

Atak_Snajpera
26th January 2009, 01:03
import .evo in ripbot264 and select blu-ray disc. Inside Stream folder you will find .m2ts.
Be carefull with bitrate! My tests show that speed transfer between two devices can be often lower than 12 MBps! (Wifi G-standard)

HighDefPro
26th January 2009, 02:21
How long should the muxing... stage last? It has been stuck on this stage for quite a long time. Thanks for help

brogan
26th January 2009, 04:00
Is there a line I can add to the AVISynth script to change a 25 fps DTS track to 23.976? The video & .ac3 tracks aren't that hard to change but I've had some problems w/DTS tracks. Also, is there a way w/RipBot to slowdown .srt from 25 fps to 23.976?? Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks...

iwens
26th January 2009, 08:59
Is there a line I can add to the AVISynth script to change a 25 fps DTS track to 23.976? The video & .ac3 tracks aren't that hard to change but I've had some problems w/DTS tracks. Also, is there a way w/RipBot to slowdown .srt from 25 fps to 23.976?? Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks...

I have some experience now with the dts tracks, i also like to speedup my decode's to 25fps as my plasma has no real 24p mode and will jidder because of the pull down.

So i made some speedups, i encoded the planet earth series (ac3 to ac3) but to my surprise the audio started great but slowly got out of sync.

I then tried planet earth the movie and wall-e the both have dts master hd tracks and the speedup worked great only i had ac3 sound. As i prefer the superior sound quality from dts, i experimented an bit more and replaced in the command file Blue-ray_extractstreams.cmd the option -core by speedup. U could also leave the -core option and add behind it -speedup. This will give an dts track which is speedup to 25 fps. After this i ran the mux command again and it gave me an movie with dts.

Of course i rather try to sweet talk atak into implementing this in his app, when u select xxxcopy it would be great if u still could select an speedup or slowdown, currently u can only select cut.

In the job_encodeAudio.Cmd then needs to be an command which will speedup or slowdown the dts track with the appropriate command for eac3to.

What u think atak is this possible to implement ?

~bT~
26th January 2009, 10:02
How long should the muxing... stage last? It has been stuck on this stage for quite a long time. Thanks for help

:search:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1234322#post1234322

brogan
26th January 2009, 18:12
I have some experience now with the dts tracks, i also like to speedup my decode's to 25fps as my plasma has no real 24p mode and will jidder because of the pull down.

So i made some speedups, i encoded the planet earth series (ac3 to ac3) but to my surprise the audio started great but slowly got out of sync.

I then tried planet earth the movie and wall-e the both have dts master hd tracks and the speedup worked great only i had ac3 sound. As i prefer the superior sound quality from dts, i experimented an bit more and replaced in the command file Blue-ray_extractstreams.cmd the option -core by speedup. U could also leave the -core option and add behind it -speedup. This will give an dts track which is speedup to 25 fps. After this i ran the mux command again and it gave me an movie with dts.

Of course i rather try to sweet talk atak into implementing this in his app, when u select xxxcopy it would be great if u still could select an speedup or slowdown, currently u can only select cut.

In the job_encodeAudio.Cmd then needs to be an command which will speedup or slowdown the dts track with the appropriate command for eac3to.

What u think atak is this possible to implement ?


So if I want to go from 25 fps to 23.976, would I just have to add "-slowdown"?
Something like: -core -slowdown
Is this correct? The only editing to the script that i've done in Ripbot is the Addborders command, i've never done anything w/the audio but if there was some way to adjust that would be great!! I know Atak is a busy man but if he was able to implement something for PAL/NTSC slowdown/speedup audio options that awesome...

cmx
27th January 2009, 02:09
hi All
i have .mpg file captured in canon hV20 ,i was trying encode to .mkv file 2 pass,file size:4480,audio:copy stream
when finish in every few seconds picture look like wave
any idea what can i change in RipBot264 ?
i'm using latest version of RipBot264

thanks:

Complete name : E:\Filmy\artur\canopus\Capture\dmf071205-001.mpg
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 3.83 GiB
Duration : 21mn 37s
Overall bit rate : 25.4 Mbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High-1440
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 21mn 37s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 23.2 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : Component
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.498

Audio
ID : 192 (0xC0)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Duration : 21mn 36s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Video delay : 1s 443ms

Atak_Snajpera
27th January 2009, 08:04
Enable Deinterlacer
Top Field First -> 29.97 or 54.94

Grossmeister
27th January 2009, 11:31
RipBot264 couldn't open video from videocamera (720x576, 25 fps, interlaced). The error is in the attach. In getinfo.avs I saw that it is trying to open video using OpenDMLSource, maybe that is a problem.
Also I attached MediaInfo's description of the video.

cmx
27th January 2009, 16:10
Enable Deinterlacer
Top Field First -> 29.97 or 54.94

Thanks
Dziekuje

poisondeathray
27th January 2009, 16:51
Grossmeister: enable DV (set to libavcodec) in the ffdshow VFW configuration (gold icon) ; AVISource() uses VFW , not DirectShow

slow4mula
29th January 2009, 07:25
i just assembled a new core i7 920 system running at 3.9 ghz...

using graysky's x264 benchmark (720p) i am getting ~93 fps on the first pass and ~36 fps on the second pass.

on both passes the cpu is being used ~100%

i am encoding a 1080p mkv now with ripbot264 and the first pass is only going at about ~24fps using ~50% of the 8 cpu threads available. i would expect about twice that (it seems 720p/1080p is about 2:1 as far as fps on equivalent hardware). i had done another 1080p mkv and i got twice the performance of my old q6600 @ 3ghz on the seconds pass about 8 fps compared to ~16 fps on the new core i7 setup.

so my question is why is x264 in ripbot only using ~50% of my cpu on the first pass when i can use the x264 benchmark and see it use 100% of my cpu on both passes just not the second?

i obviously unchecked run in low priority in the gui and i also tried making the priority of the x264.exe process higher and it doesn't have any effect.

i am basically wondering why the first pass is not maxing out the cpu when the second pass does...:confused:

slow4mula
29th January 2009, 07:28
here are my results from graysky's 720p benchmark...from this i would expect about ~45fps on the first pass ~16fps on the second pass of a 1080p encode...


Results for x264.exe v0.58.747
encoded 1442 frames, 89.17 fps, 3904.94 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 90.13 fps, 3904.94 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 89.08 fps, 3904.94 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 89.60 fps, 3904.94 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 32.73 fps, 3974.08 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 32.80 fps, 3974.08 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 32.61 fps, 3974.08 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 32.70 fps, 3974.08 kb/s

Results for x264.exe v0.59.819M
encoded 1442 frames, 92.57 fps, 3895.56 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 92.85 fps, 3895.56 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 92.94 fps, 3895.56 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 91.65 fps, 3895.56 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 36.32 fps, 3981.22 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 36.56 fps, 3981.22 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 36.05 fps, 3981.30 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 36.28 fps, 3981.30 kb/s


System Details
--------------
Name Intel Processor
Codename Bloomfield
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (Engineering Sample)
Core Stepping
Technology 45 nm
Core Speed 3900.0 MHz (20.0 x 195.1 MHz)

Northbridge Intel X58 rev. 12
Southbridge Intel 82801JR (ICH10R) rev. 00

Memory Frequency 1560.6 MHz ()
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 3070 MBytes

Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)

max VID 0.825 V
Voltage sensor 0 1.36 Volts [0x55] (CPU VCORE)
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 8
Number of threads 8 (max 16)
L2 cache 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T
Package Socket 1366 LGA (platform ID = 1h)

Temperature sensor 0 32°C (89°F) [0x20] (TMPIN0)
Temperature sensor 1 49°C (120°F) [0x31] (TMPIN1)
Temperature sensor 2 40°C (103°F) [0x28] (TMPIN2)
Temperature sensor 0 72°C (161°F) [0x21] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 73°C (163°F) [0x20] (core #1)
Temperature sensor 3 70°C (157°F) [0x23] (core #3)
Temperature sensor 2 70°C (157°F) [0x23] (core #2)
Temperature sensor 0 39°C (102°F) [0x27] (GPU Core)

noosy
29th January 2009, 09:11
Hi All,

I have a little question, please,

I would like to know if I respect the "standard" of AVCHD for create a movie with this setting :

--level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 50000 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --filter 1,1 --ref 14 --mixed-refs --bframes 8 --b-adapt 2 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 2 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --me esa --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

It's for "Journey to the Center of Earth Blu-ray" 3D ; It's for a DVD+R DL, and "LG BD-300" for my TV

Please (and I am very, very sorry for my English )

nurbs
29th January 2009, 11:00
@noosy:
Your settings are not avchd compatible. The megui profile looks like that
--level 4.1 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --vbv-bufsize 16500 --vbv-maxrate 16500 --aud --nal-hrd
(Quality options not included in the above)
The wikipedia article says max-bitrate can 24Mbps but you'll have to try yourself.
The problems with your options were too many b-frames, too many refs and to big max bitrate and buffer size.
By the way if you use --trellis 2 and --me esa you might as well use --subme 9. That will probably bring more benefit than --me esa has over --me umh at less speed cost.

edit:
I forgot that avchd also allows only certain video resolutions. You can find a complete list in the english "AVCHD" article on wikipedia.

noosy
29th January 2009, 11:54
@nurbs:
Thanx for your response...

I wish I could use --subme 9 with RipBot264 1.12.0 but the film is in VC-1 and there is a problem with FFDSHOW which decodes to "libavcodec" instead of "WM9" I'm going to use RipBot264 v1.11.5 . I just want to create a directory Bluray film to be burned to a DVD + R DL to play on my TV as you an idea of the settings I can use to obtain the best possible quality for compression so important?

edit:
missing response;

If I use this setting : --level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 50000 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --filter 1,1 --ref 4 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb --direct auto --

subme 9 --trellis 2 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --me esa --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

appropriate quality, or can I do better?

nurbs
29th January 2009, 12:23
Looks fine quality wise, but as I said --vbv-bufsize 50000, --vbv-maxrate 50000 and --ref 4 are too high if you want to be avchd compatible (at least according to the megui profile) and you'll have to use --keyint 24 and --min-keyint 2.
In my opinion --me esa isn't worth it, --me umh would be faster and I doubt you could tell the difference.

noosy
29th January 2009, 13:15
I do RipBot264 with its graphic interface, the parameters - and keyint 24 - min keyint-2 may be added as a command line, no !? how do with the graphical interface, you can explain, Please (I am very newbee ;-) )

edit:

I will use --ref 3

nurbs
29th January 2009, 14:13
I currently don't have ripbot installed so I can't look it up, sorry.

Atak_Snajpera
29th January 2009, 15:20
I do RipBot264 with its graphic interface, the parameters - and keyint 24 - min keyint-2 may be added as a command line, no !? how do with the graphical interface, you can explain, Please (I am very newbee ;-) )
What's wrong with default Level 4.0 profile???? It's already compatible with AVCHD!!! You really like to complicate simple things!

nurbs
29th January 2009, 16:14
Isn't the short keyframe intervall something you should use for avchd, like for blu-ray? I know in practice the blu-ray players don't care about it, but it's still in the spec.

Atak_Snajpera
29th January 2009, 16:24
Real life shows that you don't have to mess with those values. I don't care about stupid spec if even manufactures do not care about them.

nurbs
29th January 2009, 16:35
Still 250 is a bit large if you want quick seeking. 100 is what I normally use.

noosy
29th January 2009, 19:20
Hi,

To play a movie Bluray burned to a DVD + R DL, it must be compatible AVCHD?

The default profile Atak-Snajpera will be compatible with players? (no Playstation!)

If so can I improve the quality of video delivered to this profile by changing the parameters?

Here is what I usually (but I think I did any of the "standard") : --level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 50000 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --filter 1,1 --ref 4 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb --direct auto --subme 9 --trellis 2 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --me esa --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

Atak_Snajpera
29th January 2009, 19:24
Only these two options will give you noticeable better quality --b-adapt 2 and --subme 9 . DO NOT MODIFY REST OF OPTIONS!!!

The default profile Atak-Snajpera will be compatible with players? (no Playstation!)
Can you read? What's the description of Level 4.0 profile???

noosy
29th January 2009, 20:32
Do you think for a movie about 1:40 in VC-1 I can get something acceptable on a DVD + R DL using your profile as you just changed me as stated? It is for a FULL-HD TV ...
Should I crop and add the black bars if I leave in 1080 or do I do if I do the movie in 720p

(Do not see anything wrong in my question, I have not yet been able to consider what it gave on TV and I do not know at what point it is better to reduce the resolution - I have not bought my Bluray player Salon)

My questions may be stupid - but I do not know anything

prettyboy85712
29th January 2009, 22:07
Do you think for a movie about 1:40 in VC-1 I can get something acceptable on a DVD + R DL using your profile as you just changed me as stated? It is for a FULL-HD TV ...
Should I crop and add the black bars if I leave in 1080 or do I do if I do the movie in 720p

(Do not see anything wrong in my question, I have not yet been able to consider what it gave on TV and I do not know at what point it is better to reduce the resolution - I have not bought my Bluray player Salon)

My questions may be stupid - but I do not know anything

Try it both ways and determine what you think has the best result.

slow4mula
30th January 2009, 03:52
here is what i'm talking about...why is x264 only taking a small amount of my cpu resources?

this is 1080p -> 720p 2 pass


http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5889/performanceyu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/performanceyu0.jpg/1/w1440.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img231/performanceyu0.jpg/1/)

asarian
30th January 2009, 04:11
@noosy:
Your settings are not avchd compatible. The megui profile looks like that
--level 4.1 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --vbv-bufsize 16500 --vbv-maxrate 16500 --aud --nal-hrd
(Quality options not included in the above)
The wikipedia article says max-bitrate can 24Mbps but you'll have to try yourself.

You must be reading a different wikipedia than I am. :) Mine says a High @ 4.1 Profile allows for a 62.5 Mbit/s bitrate. 25 Mbit/s is for a 4.0 Profile.

asarian
30th January 2009, 04:18
here is what i'm talking about...why is x264 only taking a small amount of my cpu resources?

this is 1080p -> 720p 2 pass


More to the point, why is your image taking up a huge portion of my screen resources? :) For frak's sake, man, scale it down a bit to human size!

I'm liking your big-arse dual quad-core system, though. :)

EDIT: Oh, I see, it's actually hyperhreading that made it's way back.

poisondeathray
30th January 2009, 05:16
You must be reading a different wikipedia than I am. :) Mine says a High @ 4.1 Profile allows for a 62.5 Mbit/s bitrate. 25 Mbit/s is for a 4.0 Profile.

AVCHD specs aren't the same as blu-ray. You must be reading h.264/AVC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD

the AVCHD format's maximum bitrate of 24 Mbit/s



http://www.avchd-info.org/format/index.html

poisondeathray
30th January 2009, 05:19
@slow4mula - if you have other filters (e.g. resize as you are doing 1080p -> 720p) they are not necessarily multithreaded, and become the bottleneck, not the actual x264 encoding which isn't being "fed" fast enough

Also some settings within x264 (e.g. --b-adapt 2) are not multithreaded, and become the bottleneck.

asarian
30th January 2009, 05:44
AVCHD specs aren't the same as blu-ray. You must be reading h.264/AVC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD

You're right: was reading the wrong wiki my own self. :) It says, though:

Up to 24 Mbit/s (AVCHD conforming to H264 High-Profile, Level 4.1)

That doesn't sound right, though: if it conforms to H264 High-Profile, Level 4.1, then maybe someone else misread the H264 wiki instead? :)

asarian
30th January 2009, 05:52
@slow4mula - if you have other filters (e.g. resize as you are doing 1080p -> 720p) they are not necessarily multithreaded, and become the bottleneck, not the actual x264 encoding which isn't being "fed" fast enough

Also some settings within x264 (e.g. --b-adapt 2) are not multithreaded, and become the bottleneck.

I use "--b-adapt 2" too, and x264 is always at (near) 100% on all cores.

Could be an effect of the hyperthreading, too, btw (~50% max for each of the 2 logical CPU's per core?) If so, it wouldn't be working very efficiently, though.

slow4mula
30th January 2009, 07:12
More to the point, why is your image taking up a huge portion of my screen resources? :) For frak's sake, man, scale it down a bit to human size!

I'm liking your big-arse dual quad-core system, though. :)

EDIT: Oh, I see, it's actually hyperhreading that made it's way back.

i can't make it smaller w/o the quality turning to complete crap.

8ternity
31st January 2009, 20:08
Hi Atak,

I have an MKV HD 720p movie with image @ 25fps, and want to convert with ripbot264 @ 23,97fps but audio is not sync.

I try to set manual audio at 640 kbps with STRETCH, CUT and OFF option and it's all the time out of sync.

I convert it with 25fps but my bluray not reconized. It's why i've try to convert in 23,97fps but i really don't know what to do.

I have two movies are the samething trouble.

Could you help me please?

Latest ffdshow, ripbot 1.12.0, avisynth 2.5.8 latest rc build of CLSID build, etc. Try with 2 pc and same trouble.

topsham
31st January 2009, 22:05
I've been using this brilliant program for a while now creating AVCHD discs from blu-rays to play on my PS3. I have just ordered an Apple TV and would like to have a file ready to play when it arrives. Can anyone suggest the optimum settings in Ripbot for quality 720p video and 5.1 audio please?

OH_NO_ITS_FRODO
3rd February 2009, 07:02
great program! definately the best compression:quality ratio i've seen for mp4!

few questions. is it possible to batch a group of files? (*.mov > *.mp4 H.264).

I am trying to batch a bunch of tutorials that I have on DVD. one of the mov files I am talking about is here (please look at #2. Creating Illustrator Documents > "Libraries and content"): Link (http://anonym.to/?http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp?ID=718)

its generally very static screens, but i would love to keep the sharp quality, the only thing I've noticed is that (using the HD blueray default setting), the light grays come out pure white, bleaching out some of the lighter tones. what can I change to improve this? the only tweak i made was to the audio to 96khz from 128.

also, sometimes for the audio, i have to copy/paste in the location of the mov file for it to see the audio (as *sometimes* it is totally blank and doesn't show any mov files in the source file folder)

thanks for any help.

OT: do you guys recommend a better format for these kind of tutorial files?

Krizzz989
3rd February 2009, 18:01
RipBot264 is claiming Haali Media Splitter 2009-11-01 is not installed, but it is. Thanks in advance for any assistance.

deets
3rd February 2009, 18:11
64 bit support, very cool, many thanks!!

parsifal
3rd February 2009, 18:18
Hello!

A small request for Atak_Snajpera: Would it be too much to ask the inclusion of dates in the full changelog? No serious reason, just for tracking purposes. The same thing could be achieved by an extra post in this thread, in addition to editing post #1. Thanks!

prettyboy85712
3rd February 2009, 18:32
RipBot264 is claiming Haali Media Splitter 2009-11-01 is not installed, but it is. Thanks in advance for any assistance.

I'm having the same problem. I even uninstalled and reinstalled it. I disabled the software check as a temporary work around.

Atak_Snajpera
3rd February 2009, 19:13
I have no problems on my two PCs (Laptop - Windows 7 , PC - Vista)

topsham
3rd February 2009, 20:25
Further to my post #3878 I now have the Apple TV and am experimenting with encodes to try and get the best quality. In the Apple TV profile the highest quality audio I am able to select is 320kbps. Is this the best the machine can cope with?

notthatwillsmith
4th February 2009, 00:35
RipBot264 is claiming Haali Media Splitter 2009-11-01 is not installed, but it is. Thanks in advance for any assistance.

I'm having the same problem. A relatively clean Win7 64-bit install. 1.12 was working perfectly. I've uninstalled and reinstalled with no luck. Is there any way to disable the check?

Atak_Snajpera
4th February 2009, 01:01
Did you install this http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
YOU MUST HAVE LATEST HAALI MEDIA SPLITTER
11/01/2009

C:\Program Files\Haali\MatroskaSplitter\splitter.ax must not be older than 10-01-‎2009 ‏‎22:17:14

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/52/new1ah6.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1ah6.png)

bigggt
4th February 2009, 01:05
Hi Atak_Snajpera

I installed the latest Splitter and i too am having the same problem

notthatwillsmith
4th February 2009, 01:10
Did you install this http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
YOU MUST HAVE LATEST HAALI MEDIA SPLITTER
11/01/2009

C:\Program Files\Haali\MatroskaSplitter\splitter.ax must not be older than 10-01-‎2009 ‏‎22:17:14

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/52/new1ah6.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1ah6.png)

I downloaded it this morning from the link on the warning screen.

I wonder if it's a win7 UAC problem. I'll dig around the program data folder when I get home and see if I have two versions somehow.

Atak_Snajpera
4th February 2009, 01:10
Check the date of splitter.ax

I wonder if it's a win7 UAC problem. I'll dig around the program data folder when I get home and see if I have two versions somehow.
I have Windows 7 as well and I have no problems. On Vista also no problems.

~bT~
4th February 2009, 01:50
I downloaded it this morning from the link on the warning screen.

I wonder if it's a win7 UAC problem. I'll dig around the program data folder when I get home and see if I have two versions somehow.

did u reboot? sometimes u need to reboot if files are in use.

BobZhome
4th February 2009, 02:13
Hi Atak_Snajpera

I installed the latest Splitter and i too am having the same problem

Make sure you uninstall the old version first, before installing latest version.

bigggt
4th February 2009, 02:20
Uninstalled ,installed January 10th version rebooted and still same problem
XP 32 bit

notthatwillsmith
4th February 2009, 04:03
Did you install this http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
YOU MUST HAVE LATEST HAALI MEDIA SPLITTER
11/01/2009

C:\Program Files\Haali\MatroskaSplitter\splitter.ax must not be older than 10-01-‎2009 ‏‎22:17:14

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/52/new1ah6.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1ah6.png)

It shows created as Jan 10, 2009, 2:17:14PM

prettyboy85712
4th February 2009, 04:14
I'm having the same problem. A relatively clean Win7 64-bit install. 1.12 was working perfectly. I've uninstalled and reinstalled with no luck. Is there any way to disable the check?

Edit the ripbot264.ini file.

I'm 2 for 2 both my systems are encountering the problem, XP and Vista64.

stinman
4th February 2009, 06:00
I'm having the same problem. I even uninstalled and reinstalled it. I disabled the software check as a temporary work around.

I can not get it to install,I want to update on my pc as well and should I uninstall version 12 first?I hate to get rid of it if I can not get it to install.I tried on my friends pc and my girlfriends pc,said that haali media splitter was not installed,but it is,and has been.I tried to uninstall the haali media splitter and reinstall it but no luck.I did install the 1-11-2009 version,can anyone tell me what to do?
On my pc I have the 10-1-2009,can I just use this one? Which one do you have installed Atak?
Mark

8ternity
4th February 2009, 06:01
Same Trouble Here...

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/Snapshot_matroska-01.jpg

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/Snapshot_matroska-02.jpg
EDIT: Double check;

The Version http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/ direct download offert only 10-01-2009 and the description is 11-01-2009.

Alternative download: Samething.

Did anyone has the link for download the 11-01-2009 version ?

I think that mastroska make an error with the date release. Can you correct the version info?

b@nned
4th February 2009, 07:16
I want to test different ripbot settings and I'm trying to cut out a piece from a blu-ray movie (~30MB) so I don't have to wait hours for it to encode, I used tsmuxer's slpit & cut and it works with mpc-hc but when I load it into ripbot it gives me an error... I tried megui and it gave me an error too, something about there is no video header. Is there any tool that will allow me to do a proper cut?

topsham
4th February 2009, 07:37
I want to test different ripbot settings and I'm trying to cut out a piece from a blu-ray movie (~30MB) so I don't have to wait hours for it to encode, I used tsmuxer's slpit & cut and it works with mpc-hc but when I load it into ripbot it gives me an error... I tried megui and it gave me an error too, something about there is no video header. Is there any tool that will allow me to do a proper cut?This is what I use: http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/CutFile.shtml

jamd1
4th February 2009, 08:31
Just testing new version now - notice that It reports bluray movie as having 24fps instead of the usual 23.976 - hope this doesn't effect the syncing of the movie??

Lol - looks like I'll have to go back to old version:
Ripbot log:

E:\>"E:\E Downloads\BLURAY\RipBot264v1.13.0\tools\x264\x264.exe" "E:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 1 --bitrate 6198 --stats "E:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --partitions none --subme 3 --me dia --output "E:\Temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"


E:\E Downloads\BLURAY\RipBot264v1.13.0\tools\x264\x264.exe: unknown option -- nal-hrd

Just reverted back to RipBot264v1.12.0 and still reports as 24 fps, but the program now runs without the nal-hrd error - Could this be because of the new Haali media splitter version or the latest FFdshow ( using ffdshow_rev2633_20090130_clsid_mt.exe).?

~bT~
4th February 2009, 09:03
^ nothing to worry, iirc, its built in now.

edit: looks like you're right. sorry, my mistake :)

BlindBandit
4th February 2009, 09:18
It's working now

turbojet
4th February 2009, 09:28
Thanks for the 64 bit x264 support.

I was wondering if you ever planned on supporting x264 qpfiles to insert keyframes on the exact chapter?

It helps out with the long gop's at times when the chapter point isn't at a hard scene change.

BlindBandit
4th February 2009, 09:47
Credit to prettyboy85712, as he said go to Ripbot264.ini & look for //RipBot264 will check if AviSynth, FFDshow and Haali Media Spliter are installed and will also check account type
CheckRequiredSoftware=1 then it to 0 & save it. it will work now.

juGGaKNot
4th February 2009, 11:07
Gj as usual.

v1.13.0
Added: support for x264 64bit (up to 10% faster encoding)

If i use 64 bit OS i must download x264 64 bit and replace the x264 that is in the folder or what ?

Added: custom resize profile with locked aspect ratio
Added: language combobox for audio stream

Will check this out :)

Added: FFDshow DV decoder will be automatically enabled if necessary

Some of my friends had problems with this, good update.

Fixed: Bug which always resets VC-1 decoder to libavcodec. Default decoder is now wmv9 (Reason: Supports interlaced material)

I do not use interlaced material, will this cause problems ?

Cheers

~bT~
4th February 2009, 13:06
bug: unable to select lang code.
workaround: save job then hit edit for option.

bigggt
4th February 2009, 13:13
with Vista 64bit do i need to get the expermential NT version of FFDshow and what else do i have to do to take advantage of the 64 bit

thanks

turbojet
4th February 2009, 13:24
@juGGaKNot
If you download another 64 bit x264 you'd replace x264_x64.exe, x264.exe is 32 bit.
wmv9 won't cause any problems with non-interlaced content it will just be a little faster encode then libavcodec

@bigggt
ffdshow MT isn't necessary but it will speed up the encode if you have multiple cores but regular ffdshow will get the job done
for 64 bit x264 encoding all you need is 'Usex264x64=1' in RipBot264.ini and x264_x64.exe in the tools/x264 directory

prettyboy85712
4th February 2009, 13:29
On my pc I have the 10-1-2009,can I just use this one? Which one do you have installed Atak?
Mark

I did an encode using this version and it appears to work fine if you bypass the software check.

Overall a pretty good speed boost on my core i7. I just encoded the Duchess(Blu-ray) to BD5 in just a little over 4hrs.

OH_NO_ITS_FRODO
4th February 2009, 13:31
great program! definately the best compression:quality ratio i've seen for mp4!

few questions. is it possible to batch a group of files? (*.mov > *.mp4 H.264).

I am trying to batch a bunch of tutorials that I have on DVD. one of the mov files I am talking about is here (please look at #2. Creating Illustrator Documents > "Libraries and content"): Link (http://anonym.to/?http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp?ID=718)

its generally very static screens, but i would love to keep the sharp quality, the only thing I've noticed is that (using the HD blueray default setting), the light grays come out pure white, bleaching out some of the lighter tones. what can I change to improve this? the only tweak i made was to the audio to 96khz from 128.

also, sometimes for the audio, i have to copy/paste in the location of the mov file for it to see the audio (as *sometimes* it is totally blank and doesn't show any mov files in the source file folder)

thanks for any help.

OT: do you guys recommend a better format for these kind of tutorial files?

not one helpful reply guys?

turbojet
4th February 2009, 13:38
@OH_NO_ITS_FRODO
When you mean 'batch a group of files' is that combining all files into one file?
If so and they are all the same framerate/resolution you can do that with an avisynth script (.avs) that looks like:
1=directshowsource("file1.mov")
2=directshowsource("file2.mov")
3=directshowsource("file3.mov")
1+2+3

Where file# are the files you want to 'combine' then input this into ripbot if there's audio with the clips you might have some sync issues though

If they aren't the same resolution you can add .LanczosResize(<resolution>) to each of the file lines
If they aren't the same framerate you can add .AssumeFPS(<framerate>) to each file line (this will for sure cause audio sync issues)

OH_NO_ITS_FRODO
4th February 2009, 14:09
hey thanks for the reply turbojet!

will keep that info handy as i often come across a file that was split into 2 parts.

with batch I mean, single separate (*.mov) files in. single separate (*.mp4) files out. but batched from a list queue using the same settings (like the way autogk works, if you're familiar with it)

I'm trying to put some of my downloads on a dvd but some are 5gb+ size ISO's (official Lynda, Noesis, Softimage, etc releases). hence trying to use the mp4 compression. I've used "Easy RealMedia Producer" in the past for the same purpose (transcoded to *.rmvb) which worked great. but looking to do the same with mp4 now.

I'm a n00bie when it comes to mp4/H.264

nwg
4th February 2009, 14:12
Thanks for the new version but there is a bug. It thinks I am using Vista as it asks to download a font. I don't want to.

I have a question about sup support. The log saids it won't be visible when using 720p. I have been manually muxing the 720p video and ac3 audio with a separately sup subtitle at 1080p and they are visible.

turbojet
4th February 2009, 14:13
Oh, nope not that I know of besides adding each to queue.

turbojet
4th February 2009, 14:15
Did you do anything special to get 1080p sup to show on 720p video?
This is something people have been trying to figure out for years

juGGaKNot
4th February 2009, 15:28
@juGGaKNot
If you download another 64 bit x264 you'd replace x264_x64.exe, x264.exe is 32 bit.
wmv9 won't cause any problems with non-interlaced content it will just be a little faster encode then libavcodec

Ah, so x264_x64 was added and it will work if you have x64 os, i see.

thnx.

magmo
4th February 2009, 16:44
When I try to start a BD to mkv job ripbot imidiatly tell me that the job is finished, but it is not, it does not even start. Anyone else noticed this issue?

nwg
4th February 2009, 16:56
I selected the english subtitle from a BD and it hasn't muxed it in the output.

I also had the same problem with it ending straight away. I think I will use carry on using version 1.12 as that works better for me.

edit.
Ignore the bit about subs. I didn't notice the new sup extension in add subtitles.

~bT~
4th February 2009, 17:10
When I try to start a BD to mkv job ripbot imidiatly tell me that the job is finished, but it is not, it does not even start. Anyone else noticed this issue?

it didnt happen last night but it is doing it now. remove -- nal-hrd from batch files or use an older version of x264.

magmo
4th February 2009, 17:35
I tryed to remove that part, but it wont start anyway....

magmo
4th February 2009, 18:11
Quick update.... If I use tsmuxer to create a ts file and then use that one in ripbot it works.

laserfan
4th February 2009, 19:24
Sometimes the COPY STREAM option for Audio is unavailable to me. I'll select the video element, and BLU-RAY DISC for output, then my .ac3 track which is usually the disc original e.g. 640Kbps 6 channel, but despite that I've selected Blu-ray as the output option RipBot won't give me COPY STREAM as an option--I'll get instead 2ch Aften in a few bitrates e.g. 192 and 256 etc.

I say "comes & goes" because sometimes it works, but sometimes it doesn't. Has anyone else seen this? It's as if MediaInfo is mis-reading my .ac3 track somehow. If I choose MKV output I get the COPY STREAM option, but not when I click BLU-RAY. :confused:

BTW it has happened both with the latest 1.13 but also the previous 1.12. Heck now I went back to 1.11.5 and old 29-March Haali and still see the problem...

stinman
4th February 2009, 19:26
I did an encode using this version and it appears to work fine if you bypass the software check.

Overall a pretty good speed boost on my core i7. I just encoded the Duchess(Blu-ray) to BD5 in just a little over 4hrs.

So I guess I should update and leave the 10-1-2009 there.I have a phenom 9600 processor at 2.3ghz.I did a Blu-ray rip that was already cut down to 19.8Gbs (Max Payne).It did the video in about 1.5 hour maybe,but I stopped it before the audio was done.It kept my processors at 100% all the time.I don't have any special coolers or extra fans.I am new to ripbot264.I have just been doing the anydvdhd and tsremux thing along with imgburn for iso and Powerdvd 8 to play.I got almost 2 Tbs in hard drive full of dvd's and Blu-rays.Runnin out of room again!Where does it end :) Thanks for your help!If you know about this program well,I would love to learn lots more and seek some guidance from you if you got time.
Do I need to uninstall the older version of ripbot264 first before installing the new one,or can I just install and it will update the files it needs to?

Mark

prettyboy85712
4th February 2009, 19:52
So I guess I should update and leave the 10-1-2009 there.I have a phenom 9600 processor at 2.3ghz.I did a Blu-ray rip that was already cut down to 19.8Gbs (Max Payne).It did the video in about 1.5 hour maybe,but I stopped it before the audio was done.It kept my processors at 100% all the time.I don't have any special coolers or extra fans.I am new to ripbot264.I have just been doing the anydvdhd and tsremux thing along with imgburn for iso and Powerdvd 8 to play.I got almost 2 Tbs in hard drive full of dvd's and Blu-rays.Runnin out of room again!Where does it end :) Thanks for your help!If you know about this program well,I would love to learn lots more and seek some guidance from you if you got time.
Do I need to uninstall the older version of ripbot264 first before installing the new one,or can I just install and it will update the files it needs to?

Mark

Yes, uninstall the old version if you used the installer . If not, just run the new version from a different folder.

juGGaKNot
4th February 2009, 20:21
A small notice :

StoreTempFilesin=AUTO does not work on my pc

had to change it to StoreTempFilesin=D:\ for the encode to work

LE : After changing to StoreTempFilesin=D:\ now StoreTempFilesin=AUTO works.

astragalos
4th February 2009, 20:26
When I try to start a BD to mkv job ripbot imidiatly tell me that the job is finished, but it is not, it does not even start. Anyone else noticed this issue?

It happens the same to me when I try to recode a captured .ts file into mkv it runs well if I don't touch anything but if I want to deinterlace and/or resize or realocate the final mkv it quickly says that the job is finished.

I hope it will help to resolve the problem.

Greetings :thanks:

astragalos
4th February 2009, 20:33
it didnt happen last night but it is doing it now. remove -- nal-hrd from batch files or use an older version of x264.

It seems to work by removing --nal-hrd

Thank you very much ! :thanks:

bigggt
5th February 2009, 00:26
@juGGaKNot
If you download another 64 bit x264 you'd replace x264_x64.exe, x264.exe is 32 bit.
wmv9 won't cause any problems with non-interlaced content it will just be a little faster encode then libavcodec

@bigggt
ffdshow MT isn't necessary but it will speed up the encode if you have multiple cores but regular ffdshow will get the job done
for 64 bit x264 encoding all you need is 'Usex264x64=1' in RipBot264.ini and x264_x64.exe in the tools/x264 directory

thanks Turbo

BlindBandit
5th February 2009, 00:43
Just wow, i just use RipBot264 1.13.0 in Vista 64bit & boy x264 64bit kick ass, Bleach avi was 170mb then after using RipBot264 Bleach is now 165mb at the same IQ wow.

Atak_Snajpera
5th February 2009, 01:18
bug: unable to select lang code.
workaround: save job then hit edit for option.
More info please. Step by Step


Sometimes the COPY STREAM option for Audio is unavailable to me. I'll select the video element, and BLU-RAY DISC for output, then my .ac3 track which is usually the disc original e.g. 640Mbps 6 channel, but despite that I've selected Blu-ray as the output option RipBot won't give me COPY STREAM as an option--I'll get instead 2ch Aften in a few bitrates e.g. 192 and 256 etc.
Screenshot please.

Thanks for the new version but there is a bug. It thinks I am using Vista as it asks to download a font. I don't want to.
Windows XP DOES NOT HAVE "Consolas.ttf" font therefore it must be installed !!! Windows Vista and Windows 7 have this font installed by default !!!!

~bT~
5th February 2009, 01:23
add video source
add audio source
select mkv
select bluray profile
select 2 pass and lock size 8150
unable to choose lang code for audio
save job
hit edit
able to change lang code :)

brogan
5th February 2009, 01:53
I have Windows 7 64-bit (i920 Quad Core & 6 GB of Ram) & I can't seem to install the new version...I've had 1.12.0 working w/no problems but wanted to give 1.13.0 a whirl...no dice :(
Once I ran the RipBot.exe, I got a message saying the ffdshow & haali needed to be updated...I uninstalled both & then reinstalled the newer versions but every time I try to install RipBot, I get the message that these 2 programs are not installed...help!!

Fishman0919
5th February 2009, 02:08
Did you install this http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
YOU MUST HAVE LATEST HAALI MEDIA SPLITTER
11/01/2009

C:\Program Files\Haali\MatroskaSplitter\splitter.ax must not be older than 10-01-‎2009 ‏‎22:17:14

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/52/new1ah6.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1ah6.png)

Getting the not installed error... LINK (http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr37/fishman0919/splitterax.png)

brogan
5th February 2009, 02:09
Was able to get ffdshow correctly updated but Haali is still not working correctly...have the 2009-11-01 version installed but RipBot says its still not installed...

brogan
5th February 2009, 02:30
Getting the not installed error... LINK (http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr37/fishman0919/splitterax.png)

Thanks for the reply, that's the one I downloaded/installed & it just doesn't show as being installed...I've uninstalled it, ran CCleaner, restarted, re-installed the correct version, restarted then ran RipBot but it keeps coming up as Haali not installed...I double checked that file (splitter.ax) & I have the correct version installed...this is driving me nuts...if anyone has any ideas, please let me know

:thanks::thanks::thanks::thanks::thanks::thanks::thanks:

prettyboy85712
5th February 2009, 02:31
I have Windows 7 64-bit (i920 Quad Core & 6 GB of Ram) & I can't seem to install the new version...I've had 1.12.0 working w/no problems but wanted to give 1.13.0 a whirl...no dice :(
Once I ran the RipBot.exe, I got a message saying the ffdshow & haali needed to be updated...I uninstalled both & then reinstalled the newer versions but every time I try to install RipBot, I get the message that these 2 programs are not installed...help!!
You can edit the ripbot ini to bypass the software check.

brogan
5th February 2009, 02:35
You can edit the ripbot ini to bypass the software check.

I just went back , saw your posts, edited .ini & was coming back to give you a shout...thanks, prettyboy :)

nwg
5th February 2009, 02:40
Now you have a BD 25 size possible. It would be great to be able to keep the HD audio as well. In fact, the sound of copy stream make it sound like it should be copying the audio as is regardless of what audio it is.

survivant001
5th February 2009, 03:06
I installed ffdshow 2653 64 bits and ripbot 1.13.0 doesn't see it
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ffdshow-tryout/ffdshow_rev2653_20090204_clsid_x64.exe?modtime=1233773214&big_mirror=0

and I installed the splitter from http://haali.net/mkv/MatroskaSplitter.exe

and ripbot still doesn't see it.

can you post the link of the software that we need to install please.

thanks

8ternity
5th February 2009, 04:15
@Atak_Snajpera:

Here the trouble i have, no answer from my other post.

Snapshot 01; Original Video is MKV 23FPS, audio AC3 is correct
VIDEO 2:40:44.087 --- AUDIO 2:34:11.584

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/Other/th_01-Snapshot-Original.jpg (http://s480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/Other/?action=view&current=01-Snapshot-Original.jpg)

Snapshot 02; Update to 23.97FPS, audio sync time error;
VIDEO 2:34:11.502 --- AUDIO 2:27:54.976

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/Other/th_02-Snapshot-2397fps.jpg (http://s480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/Other/?action=view&current=02-Snapshot-2397fps.jpg)

Video and Sound Out of sync when convert to 23.97. normally in 1.12.0 version and previous, can set "CUT" or "STRETCH" but not no fonction available.

Can you help with that please?

Thank you!

8ternity
5th February 2009, 04:20
I installed ffdshow 2653 64 bits and ripbot 1.13.0 doesn't see it
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ffdshow-tryout/ffdshow_rev2653_20090204_clsid_x64.exe?modtime=1233773214&big_mirror=0

and I installed the splitter from http://haali.net/mkv/MatroskaSplitter.exe

and ripbot still doesn't see it.

can you post the link of the software that we need to install please.

thanks

You can resolved problem by modifiying the ripbot.ini file with notepad.exe;

Change ;
CheckRequiredSoftware=1
to
CheckRequiredSoftware=0

And software will work.

jamd1
5th February 2009, 04:30
Quote:
Sometimes the COPY STREAM option for Audio is unavailable to me. I'll select the video element, and BLU-RAY DISC for output, then my .ac3 track which is usually the disc original e.g. 640Mbps 6 channel, but despite that I've selected Blu-ray as the output option RipBot won't give me COPY STREAM as an option--I'll get instead 2ch Aften in a few bitrates e.g. 192 and 256 etc.

I have this problem too - No audio file is seen in the audio box - but you can browse to it and then Xcopy will appear.
Also many saved preferences ( saved in RipBot264.ini ) do not show - such as profile, desired bitrate and output path. This is using XP pro SP3. Seems like this version has many incomptiblities with Xp - will stick with 1.12.0 until fixed).

wolfbane5
5th February 2009, 05:31
Thanks for v1.13.0, Atak. I made a few changes in the .ini to suit my needs better, but I've been wondering if there's a way I can add a few other output file sizes to the file size list, simply for convenience purposes?

Atak_Snajpera
5th February 2009, 08:09
@survivant001
does this key exists?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\GNU\ffdshow
Revision value must exists and must be higher than 2633

survivant001
5th February 2009, 11:24
the revision is 2605... wierd.. look like the guy forgot to change it when he build it.

I'll swtich to 32bit

illicit33
5th February 2009, 12:04
I encode 24fps, play with PS3 but frame-skipping every 2-5minute, but normal on the computer, I do not know why, please help
Thank you

Fishman0919
5th February 2009, 12:12
After shutting off the ver Check to get passed the Haali Media Splitter issue... got a font install for Vista and Windows 7 with a reboot. I'm running Win XP

Now after choosing the file to encode, I get this error. LINK (http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr37/fishman0919/errornobmp.png)

survivant001
5th February 2009, 14:26
After shutting off the ver Check to get passed the Haali Media Splitter issue...


so no one figure out how to install the right version ?

spida_singh
5th February 2009, 14:36
I selected the english subtitle from a BD and it hasn't muxed it in the output.

I also had the same problem with it ending straight away. I think I will use carry on using version 1.12 as that works better for me.

edit.
Ignore the bit about subs. I didn't notice the new sup extension in add subtitles.

I get the same error, Dark Knight Blu ray, i made a sample using tsmuxer, using ac3 audio, Vista 32bit, q6600, it also told me haali was not installed, to fix, downloaded haali from

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Haali_Matroska_Splitter.htm

then it told me it had it installed, even though the details on version was exactly the same.

spida_singh
5th February 2009, 14:39
It seems to work by removing --nal-hrd

Thank you very much ! :thanks:

Where do you remove this?

::EDIT::

Found it, thanks, now running ok.

laserfan
5th February 2009, 15:40
so no one figure out how to install the right version ?I changed the ini file and that seemed to work for me.

I've wondered though if the issue is as simple as "different versions of Windows in different countries & time zones result in a different creation date for Haali". Maybe if you alter the date with Attribute Changer or something then RipBot will stop complaining...

laserfan
5th February 2009, 16:04
Sometimes the COPY STREAM option for Audio is unavailable to me...it has happened both with the latest 1.13 but also the previous 1.12.Screenshot please.
Here's an example where the .ac3 is unchanged from the BD (640Kbps, 6-channel, not E-AC3) but RipBot264 doesn't show COPY STREAM as an option (though at least in this case it does give 640 as an option).

EDIT: I've now tried 1.12.0 and 1.11.5 and even re-installed old Haali and still no good. Wonder if RipBot264 depends on anything else in my setup that might be amiss. Using XP Pro x64 here (and am now going to try my old P4 machine).

wolfbane5
5th February 2009, 17:04
I tried using v1.13.0 last night and am having some problems. I bypassed the check (i have the latest of the 3 required) and tried encoding The Bourne Supremacy (BD). I loaded up the .ts (contained only the video) and the .dts track, cropped the black bars and set the output as an mkv. When I hit start, couple seconds passed and 'All Jobs Finished' came up. Not exactly sure why this happened since I encoded the same movie with v1.12.0 and it worked just fine.

Now if I'm not mistaken, with v1.13.0 the CUT function is always on? If that's the case, it doesn't reflect it in the menu for v1.13.0. If the video was slightly longer than the audio in v1.12.0 and you switched between CUT and OFF, you could clearly see the difference. With v1.13.0, it doesn't show that anymore.

topsham
5th February 2009, 18:39
Is there any way to select AC3 output in an mp4 file for Apple TV as I would much rather use Ripbot than Handbrake as it's much less fussy about input files?

spida_singh
5th February 2009, 20:39
Where do you remove this?

::EDIT::

Found it, thanks, now running ok.


@wolfbane5

Try this under the profile setting you select.

juGGaKNot
5th February 2009, 22:18
A small notice :

StoreTempFilesin=AUTO does not work on my pc

had to change it to StoreTempFilesin=D:\ for the encode to work

LE : After changing to StoreTempFilesin=D:\ now StoreTempFilesin=AUTO works.

Update, StoreTempFilesin=AUTO still does not work

Using StoreTempFilesin=D:\ for now



E:\>"D:\RipBot264v1.13.0\tools\x264\x264.exe" "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --crf 20 --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter -3,-3 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb --direct auto --subme 9 --trellis 2 --partitions all --8x8dct --me tesa --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

D:\RipBot264v1.13.0\tools\x264\x264.exe: unknown option -- nal-hrd


E:\>"D:\RipBot264v1.13.0\tools\mkvtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o "D:\Untitled.mkv" --default-duration 0:30fps -d 0 -A -S "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" --language 0:und --sync 0:0 -a 0 -D -S "D:\Untitled.mp3"

mkvmerge v2.4.0 ('Fumbling Towards Ecstasy') built on Oct 11 2008 20:10:57

Error: The source file 'E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264' could not be opened successfully, or retrieving its size by seeking to the end did not work.
-------------------------

Elapsed Time: 00h:00m:00s

Atak_Snajpera
5th February 2009, 23:01
Here's an example where the .ac3 is unchanged from the BD (640Kbps, 6-channel, not E-AC3) but RipBot264 doesn't show COPY STREAM as an option (though at least in this case it does give 640 as an option).

This screenshot helped alot. I know what went wrong. I didn't predict that user would use capital letters in extension (.AC3).

@survivant001
Report this small revision problem to that guy.

Update, StoreTempFilesin=AUTO still does not work

Using StoreTempFilesin=D:\ for now
Auto means the biggest HDD or partition. Which partition is the biggest on your pc? Screenshot ?

Ajax_Undone
5th February 2009, 23:25
Once a patched build is available a New Installer will be as well.

wakebrder
6th February 2009, 00:13
Bluray chapters seem to be broken in 1.13.0.

If I advance chapter on standalone, it hangs, then returns to the beginning of the disc.

It worked fine in 1.12.0.:confused:

nekrosoft13
6th February 2009, 00:40
anyone know that is causing this error? evern seen this in ripbot before.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5892/capturegl2.jpg

~bT~
6th February 2009, 00:46
^ what is the source? post mediainfo.

~bT~
6th February 2009, 00:47
Bluray chapters seem to be broken in 1.13.0.

If I advance chapter on standalone, it hangs, then returns to the beginning of the disc.

It worked fine in 1.12.0.:confused:
maybe it has something to do with this?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1245692#post1245692

nekrosoft13
6th February 2009, 01:02
^ what is the source? post mediainfo.

here are few, same error

General
ID : 0
Complete name : \\NEKROSERV\h$\HD Films Back-up\Planet Earth\Galapagos\00001.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 7.31 GiB
Duration : 49mn 5s
Overall bit rate : 21.3 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : AP@L3
Duration : 49mn 2s
Bit rate : 20.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.322

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 49mn 5s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Text
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

General
ID : 1
Complete name : \\NEKROSERV\Share\G Drive\Earth Biography\1.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 6.63 GiB
Duration : 45mn 26s
Overall bit rate : 20.9 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : AP@L3
Duration : 45mn 24s
Bit rate : 19.4 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.312

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 45mn 26s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

~bT~
6th February 2009, 01:05
^ have you set vc1 to wmv in ffdshow?

nekrosoft13
6th February 2009, 01:19
yes, i tried that before, but that causes diffrent error.

http://g.imagehost.org/0217/Untitled.jpg

after that error i was trying to use libavcodec, never ran into this issue with previous ripbot versions, is there any place i can find 1.12 ??

~bT~
6th February 2009, 01:28
which os? xp?

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/RipBot264/old-versions#download

nekrosoft13
6th February 2009, 01:28
vista 64bit ultimate

wakebrder
6th February 2009, 01:46
maybe it has something to do with this?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1245692#post1245692

Guess I should have went back 1 more page.

You do realize this is a long thread, right? :eek:

laserfan
6th February 2009, 03:36
This screenshot helped alot. I know what went wrong. I didn't predict that user would use capital letters in extension (.AC3).Oh, man--that was it. I'd been playing with a new extraction tool and it output CAPS!!!! :devil: And I hate CAPS!!! Thanks for the quick response; I can deal with fixing the case now! :)

8ternity
6th February 2009, 05:56
anyone know that is causing this error? evern seen this in ripbot before.



have you try to Update for the latest DirectX 10 driver?

"Download the latest DirectX"

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en

And Reboot windows, try again, give us feedback after.

wolfbane5
6th February 2009, 08:10
is there any place i can find 1.12 ??

Simply google it and you'll find it. I'm having problems with 1.13.0 too, so I'm sticking with 1.12.0 until its ironed out.

Ajax_Undone
6th February 2009, 09:38
Simply google it and you'll find it. I'm having problems with 1.13.0 too, so I'm sticking with 1.12.0 until its ironed out.

There is always my installer. Just deselect the FFDShow install and the AVIsynth

I am hopping to have a new item as pat of the install real by next release...

juGGaKNot
6th February 2009, 10:11
Auto means the biggest HDD or partition. Which partition is the biggest on your pc? Screenshot ?

Until i upgraded to 1.13.0 partition E was always used

D and E are the same size ( 596 gb ) but E has more free space.

Auto worked fine until now.

Click me (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/AUTO_Partition.jpg)

is there any place i can find 1.12 ??

See full changelog.

asarian
6th February 2009, 12:53
@juGGaKNot
If you download another 64 bit x264 you'd replace x264_x64.exe, x264.exe is 32 bit.

I don't get it. What about the need for a 64bit AviSynth (and dito plugins!) then?

Wishbringer
6th February 2009, 13:11
What about the need for a 64bit AviSynth (and dito plugins!)...

Maybe I am wrong, but:
Avisynth 32bit and plugins 32bit can be piped over avs2yuv.
YUV is a raw format x264 64bit can handle.
So it seems to be a hybrid solution.
And is good, as long overhead (pipeline and conversion) is smaller than gain from 64bit code.

At my Q9650 at 3.825 GHz new RipBot is around 6% faster.

asarian
6th February 2009, 13:15
Maybe I am wrong, but:
Avisynth 32bit and plugins 32bit can be piped over avs2yuv.
YUV is a raw format x264 64bit can handle.
So it seems to be a hybrid solution.
And is good, as long overhead (pipeline and conversion) is smaller than gain from 64bit code.

At my Q9650 at 3.825 GHz new RipBot is around 6% faster.

Thanks for the explanation. Worth trying out, methinks. :)

cmx
6th February 2009, 15:36
hi All
i have question
when i encode .mpg about 7 gb (caputed from HD camera) to .mkv (2 pass ,lock size 4480)
in version 1.13 i'm getting final size 5472
any one alse experiencing some problem?
thx

illestdomer2005
6th February 2009, 15:44
Why do I feel like there will be a 1.14.0 soon? ;) Just busting your chops, Atak!

How well has RipBot worked for you guys on the Windows 7 64 bit Beta? I am debating installing AnyDVD and RipBot on that partition just to see how much faster, if at all, I can encode.

Right now, I am running Vista Home (32 bit) with a Q6700@3.33 GHz, 4 GB of 800MHz RAM @667 MHz (synced in SLi mode) on a 780i mobo and a single 1TB WD Black Edition HDD. The Windows 7 Beta is on a separate hard drive (just an old 500 GB that I had) with obviously the same equipment other than the hard drive.

I would love to hear from the guys who made the jump to the i7 setups from the quad processors about how much encoding sped up. I would love to have a good reason to build another rig ;)

Thanks!

jtheripper
6th February 2009, 17:47
well I also got the job finished instantly error in 1.13. Looking in the job log here is the error "Can't open file: E:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" Same rip works good in 1.10.8 (my favorite version and by far the fastest encoding version) and 1.12

T-x
6th February 2009, 17:58
i am wondering if it at all woud be possible to make V1.14.0 able to import folder as its a enying to select 1 file after another when you have multiple files in that same folder you want to convert with the same settings

Sorry for the bad english but its not my first laungish

Ajax_Undone
6th February 2009, 19:06
i am wondering if it at all woud be possible to make V1.14.0 able to import folder as its a enying to select 1 file after another when you have multiple files in that same folder you want to convert with the same settings

Sorry for the bad english but its not my first laungish

It might be doable with Kamiwa's Batch Encoder it allows you to do this. http://www.kamiwa.de/en/node/16 Here is a link to the installer (http://www.kamiwa.de/files/BatchEncoderSetup.rar) And here is the Subversion (http://subversion.kamiwa.de/svn/repobrowser.svn?path=/&revision=HEAD&name=kamiwa) if you want to do some editing/updating to the source and Compile its Written in C# 2005....

Ajax_Undone
6th February 2009, 19:20
To All:
All I see is it needing is a few small improvements so it might be good as soon as 1.13.5.

I am sure hes been fixing some if not all the issues found since release. So be patient he will get it fixed.

It doesn't take long to hit the back button on your explorer and use some of the other GUI's. :) Some are quite easy to use and most use the exact same codec and tool set.:p

topsham
6th February 2009, 19:44
Is there any way to select AC3 output in an mp4 file for Apple TV as I would much rather use Ripbot than Handbrake as it's much less fussy about input files?Can anyone please tell me how I can get 6 channel AC3 audio in an mp4/m4v file?

Alfeuss
6th February 2009, 19:55
Can anyone please tell me how I can get 6 channel AC3 audio in an mp4/m4v file?

Google YAMB

topsham
6th February 2009, 21:30
Thanks for the suggestion but it wouldn't work with any of the mkv or m2ts files I tried.

poisondeathray
6th February 2009, 22:01
Thanks for the suggestion but it wouldn't work with any of the mkv or m2ts files I tried.

Use the elementary streams.

Also some mp4box builds have issues with AC3 in .mp4. Another option in this case would be mp4muxer.

This takes 2 steps;
1) encode your video & audio (or just the video & retain AC3)
2) take the elementary video & audio to mux them in to .mp4 with mp4muxer

urbanriot
7th February 2009, 02:10
I can not get version 1.13 to work. v1.12, after juggling various versions of required apps, finally worked. However, v 1.13 says I'm missing both FFDshow and Haali Media Splitter, even though v 1.12 accepts my configuration.

I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling various versions of FFDshow, both x86 and x64 (preferably), and v 1.12 works fine but not v 1.13. Any suggestions?

~bT~
7th February 2009, 02:13
v 1.12 works fine but not v 1.13. Any suggestions?stick with v 1.12 until an update is released :D

BlindBandit
7th February 2009, 02:55
I can not get version 1.13 to work. v1.12, after juggling various versions of required apps, finally worked. However, v 1.13 says I'm missing both FFDshow and Haali Media Splitter, even though v 1.12 accepts my configuration.

I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling various versions of FFDshow, both x86 and x64 (preferably), and v 1.12 works fine but not v 1.13. Any suggestions?

If you have v1.13.0 then go to the RipBot264 folder & look for RipBot264.ini then change this //RipBot264 will check if AviSynth, FFDshow and Haali Media Spliter are installed and will also check account type
CheckRequiredSoftware=1 change the 1 to 0 then save, it will work now.

v1.13.0 is the best RipBot264 to date so far. not only that but i get a smaller size in my mp4 when using the same settings as the source video with subs, two x264 64bit is faster then x264 32bit by 10% or more. three, the IQ is freaking sweet, i will post a picture soon of the mkv file to mp4.

topsham
7th February 2009, 08:44
Use the elementary streams.

Also some mp4box builds have issues with AC3 in .mp4. Another option in this case would be mp4muxer.

This takes 2 steps;
1) encode your video & audio (or just the video & retain AC3)
2) take the elementary video & audio to mux them in to .mp4 with mp4muxer

Thanks for that but the files I am working on contain dts audio and I am struggling to convert that to ac3.

J:\PlanetApes>"J:\Convert\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "J:\PlanetApes\00000.track_4352.dts
" "J:\PlanetApes\00000.track_4352.ac3"
DTS Master Audio, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder...
Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
invalid number of channels
Initialization of the AC3 encoder failed.
Aborted at file position 262144.

Can I use Ripbot just to convert the audio?

Blackwalker
7th February 2009, 09:54
same here...installed but dont work
anyway thx a lot for the hard work you are doing :)

hope in some fix soon!

Wishbringer
7th February 2009, 13:56
@Atak: just for info

With Ripbot264 v1.13 I just finished encoding of Mummy Triology and Pirates of Caribian Triology.
I selected DTS-HD stream copy and changed --b-adapt to 2 and --subme to 9 to increase quality a bit.
All encodes had target size of DVD9 (8150MB).
All encodes were 3% undersized (display of ImgBurn 97% of disk space used).

~bT~
7th February 2009, 16:04
^ are you moaning about the 3% undersize or are you complimenting him on a wonderful app? :p

poisondeathray
7th February 2009, 16:21
Thanks for that but the files I am working on contain dts audio and I am struggling to convert that to ac3.

J:\PlanetApes>"J:\Convert\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "J:\PlanetApes\00000.track_4352.dts
" "J:\PlanetApes\00000.track_4352.ac3"
DTS Master Audio, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder...
Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
invalid number of channels
Initialization of the AC3 encoder failed.
Aborted at file position 262144.

Can I use Ripbot just to convert the audio?




Do you mean a dts => ac3 conversion (no video)? I don't think it can, I would use eac3to to do that. Another option would be foobar2000 with dts plugin

It looks like ripbot had errors when trying to do that conversion. Ripbot uses eac3to but try the standalone eac3to for the audio conversion. If you still have problems, post in the eac3to thread for help

nwg
7th February 2009, 19:11
Of course Ripbot can do DTS - AC3. Just select AC3 640kbps in the drop down box after selecting the DTS in the streams box. If something goes wrong then it is a Eac3to issue.

T-x
8th February 2009, 02:48
It might be doable with Kamiwa's Batch Encoder it allows you to do this. http://www.kamiwa.de/en/node/16 Here is a link to the installer (http://www.kamiwa.de/files/BatchEncoderSetup.rar) And here is the Subversion (http://subversion.kamiwa.de/svn/repobrowser.svn?path=/&revision=HEAD&name=kamiwa) if you want to do some editing/updating to the source and Compile its Written in C# 2005....

took a look at the app but i dodsnt do what i what it to do
there is no way at all to set file size
and now way im toutching Divx as the encoder even thou it can make it in to a mkv file.

has tryed a lot off other apps most have setting comming out of there asses and the others are missing settings.

ripbot264x is simple with all the settings i need exept you have to import 1 file at a time it woud make it mutch easier if one was able to import an entire folder at a time.

BlindBandit
8th February 2009, 04:43
Naruto HD 1080p mkv - 383mb
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9320/narutohdmkvta9.jpg

Naruto HD 720p mp4
using RipBot264 v1.13.0 with my custom PS3 settings at lock 350mb 2 pass after Ripbot264 was done, i got 320mb at the same image.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2206/narutohdmp4ms6.jpg

Also there a bug that where a video file has 29.97fps & try to put it 23.97fps the audio does not match with the video & you get from a 23min show, 28mins.

Atak_Snajpera
8th February 2009, 07:35
You should use decimate function

i got 320mb at the same image.
show me log

BlindBandit
8th February 2009, 09:52
You should use decimate function


show me log

I try that but the audio comes out a few second's late. it's a pain but 29fps & 119fps video does that but it's no big deal i just get a difference video file & see if it has 23.97fps. since the HDTV i have does 120hz, so it's not a problem.

Wishbringer
8th February 2009, 14:58
^ are you moaning about the 3% undersize or are you complimenting him on a wonderful app? :p

2nd!
I can live with 3% undersize.
But I wanted to show, that there is an undersize issue.