RipBot264 v1.18.3 - Simple and easy to use GUI -> IPOD . PSP . CONSOLES . BLURAY

[Ajax_Undone]

It would take a while. I will see about doing that though..

I hope I get what your after! One that installs all FFD pre-configured to the settings needed to run ripbot...

I could just use registry plug-in and have it edit the values to default upon end of install config... This would be easiest rather then compiling the whole svn to place it into an installer as part of the ripbot264 installation.

But yeah I will give it a go.. I just want to see what Atak come out with in the next version...

[dchao]

I did some testing on both my PC's (one contains the registry key ffdshow_vfw and the other doesn't).

It seems that after you run the ffdshow installer and if you choose not to run the VFW configuratator during the last step of the ffdshow installation, then ffdshow_vfw is not setup automatically. After I ran the VFW configurator, everything under ffdshow_vfw became populated.

So before RipBot264 inserts the mjpg value into the registry, it should check for the existence of the key ffdshow_vfw, if it doesn't exist, create one first.

[asarian]

I hope I get what your after! One that installs all FFD pre-configured to the settings needed to run ripbot...

Hmm, this is interesting. I just used your installer for the first time (I tend to just unrar the folder and move it to \Program Files\), and now RipBot264 actually seems to render properly: from a ludicrous 44fps to ca 2fps (about right for my high profile).

Well, that begs the question: what is your installer actually doing extra? I though all RipBot's needed files were localized under its parent?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Well, that begs the question: what is your installer actually doing extra? I though all RipBot's needed files were localized under its parent?
Ajax installer contains all files from my .7z file + possibility to download latest ffdshow , haali media splitter and stable avisynth 2.5.7. Probably you had some conflict on you pc.

can we expect a 1.11.5 soon ? I installed 1.11.4 on a co-worker PC, but it's really not good with computer so I won't ask him to do that himself. He will kill his Windows
Maybe tomorrow . I need to see if madshi will update eac3to on sunday

[asarian]

Ajax installer contains all files from my .7z file + possibility to download latest ffdshow , haali media splitter and stable avisynth 2.5.7. Probably you had some conflict on you pc.

I only let the Ajax installer install RipBot264 itself plus haali media splitter (I already had the correct ffdshow version and AviSynth). So maybe it was the newer haali media splitter?

P.S. I love how the new Profile files are just the command-line options for x264 directly: makes things much more transparent and easier to add extra x264 stuff.

[survivant001]

Ajax installer contains all files from my .7z file + possibility to download latest ffdshow , haali media splitter and stable avisynth 2.5.7. Probably you had some conflict on you pc.


that why 2 versions should be available. One only for ripbot264 and others with everything. The 2tn could be use to do a new installation on a fresh PC and the 1th one use for the upgrade release of ripbot. Just a though.


Maybe tomorrow . I need to see if madshi will update eac3to on sunday

thanks

[mikelebron]

Question.. when I select x.xCOPYSTREAM, if the original lets say is TrueHD will the MKV that I create be TrueHD or just AC3?

What does COPYSTREAM actually mean? Exact copy?

[Ajax_Undone]

Just AC3 the video its self will be processed to the profiles specs + what ever else you've selected for the properties. Crop, de-interlace, decimate, assumefps, and so on...

Don't think RipBot can do pass through on video cause it does not unpack the h.264 stream from the original file.

But even if it did what would be the point besides changing possible container...

[asarian]

Just AC3 the video its self will be processed to the profiles specs + what ever else you've selected for the properties. Crop, de-interlace, decimate, assumefps, and so on...

Don't think RipBot can do pass through on video cause it does not unpack the h.264 stream from the original file.

But even if it did what would be the point besides changing possible container...

Well, pass-through video would indeed be pointless. Audio, however, is another matter; and, far as I'm concerned, should be passed through without any modification. Since RipBot264 seems to be using eac3to to extract the audio, there are pitfalls, though, when extracting AC3, that warrant treading carefully. From the wiki:


Some decoders apply DRC (Dynamic Range Compression). Stupidly, Dolby's license requests that DRC must be applied, unless your decoder has an option to turn it on/off. Only then the decoder is allowed to not apply DRC. The purpose of DRC is to limit the dynamic range of an audio track, mainly to not annoy neighbours or to accommodate to noisy living room conditions. For reencoding purposes DRC is catastrophic. Most decoders apply Dialog Normalization. This feature is supposed to make sure that for all audio sources the dialog is automatically played at the same volume. Dialog Normalization is quite "unnice", although it's just a volume change, so it doesn't really destroy the audio quality.


Since eac3to relies on external decoders, AC3 audio may not pass through as 'unscaved' as one might think. Especially applied Dynamic Range Compression would be detrimental. You'd almost wish RipBot264 would use tsMuxeR to demux the audio stream, and not eac3to.

[nwg]

I have never had a problem with eac3to demuxing the audio but I still prefer to use a demuxed tsmuxer audio track with ripbot. I select no audio on the analysis and then point to the demuxed ac3/dts track.

[poisondeathray]

Since eac3to relies on external decoders, AC3 audio may not pass through as 'unscaved' as one might think. Especially applied Dynamic Range Compression would be detrimental. You'd almost wish RipBot264 would use tsMuxeR to demux the audio stream, and not eac3to.

Possible issues with not using eac3to with .m2ts are audio gaps, which are not corrected by using tsmuxer = sync issues.

[mikelebron]

So what you guys are telling me RipBot uses eac3to which will extract, TrueHD, DTS-HD, AC3, EAC3, DTS, etc. and remux the audio stream as AC3 and ONLY AC3.. Let me ask you... what about LPCM? Does the x.xCOPYSTREAM handle this? If so how? Also.. Im using AC3 filter..how is this in comparison to nero, etc or other Filters. Recommendations?

Im asking as for me sound is everthing... I can tolerate a 80 - 90% quality on the video side but I cant accept that on the sound.

[asarian]

Possible issues with not using eac3to with .m2ts are audio gaps, which are not corrected by using tsmuxer = sync issues.

Good point. :) The possible gap files; you do indeed need eac3to for that. Still, I prefer to extract my audio manually first, with eac3to, so I know exactly what happens, and then remux it back afterwards with tsMuxeR.

[poisondeathray]

So what you guys are telling me RipBot uses eac3to which will extract, TrueHD, DTS-HD, AC3, EAC3, DTS, etc. and remux the audio stream as AC3 and ONLY AC3.. Let me ask you... what about LPCM? Does the x.xCOPYSTREAM handle this? If so how? Also.. Im using AC3 filter..how is this in comparison to nero, etc or other Filters. Recommendations?

Im asking as for me sound is everthing... I can tolerate a 80 - 90% quality on the video side but I cant accept that on the sound.

With eac3to you can extract the identical stream e.g. TrueHD, EAC3, etc. but I think it sometimes uses a lossless flac intermediate depending on the audio type; you are not forced only AC3 (this is when using it separately, using eac3to through ripbot will limit your options)

eg. You can force libav as the decoder instead of sonic, for example, which doesn't apply DRC for EAC3 (when sonic does)

Look into the eac3to thread for more information

[poisondeathray]

Good point. :) The possible gap files; you do indeed need eac3to for that. Still, I prefer to extract my audio manually first, with eac3to, so I know exactly what happens, and then remux it back afterwards with tsMuxeR.

Yes, this is my preferred way too, with all GUIs including ripbot

[asarian]

So what you guys are telling me RipBot uses eac3to which will extract, TrueHD, DTS-HD, AC3, EAC3, DTS, etc. and remux the audio stream as AC3 and ONLY AC3.. Let me ask you... what about LPCM? Does the x.xCOPYSTREAM handle this? If so how? Also.. Im using AC3 filter..how is this in comparison to nero, etc or other Filters. Recommendations?

Im asking as for me sound is everthing... I can tolerate a 80 - 90% quality on the video side but I cant accept that on the sound.

See, this is what I meant: with all these external decoders, you may really run into an unexpected DRC setting. I don't have AC3Filter myself, but this link seems to suggest DRC is 'on' by default:

http://www.otslabs.com/studio/ac3-filter.html

If so, best disable it. :)

[asarian]

On a totally unrelated matter, has anyone here experience with the "--psy-rd" (psychovisual optimization) parameter? I can't decide whether I want it or not. Things get grainier, but there's more contrast, and overall sharper detail.

[Ajax_Undone]

I removed it cause it made some area's too bright...

True lies: Jamie Lee's hands just about as blinding as could be... Not good on flesh tone at all...

[poisondeathray]

On a totally unrelated matter, has anyone here experience with the "--psy-rd" (psychovisual optimization) parameter? I can't decide whether I want it or not. Things get grainier, but there's more contrast, and overall sharper detail.

It really depends on the type of source material, and the bitrate that you use. The same goes with AQ settings.

I've done tests where it was great, others where there was noticable ringing/artifacting. - you can alter the strength lower if you want

The case with most smooth anime (not the CGI variety with detail) it causes too much distortion

Suggestion: do some short representative test clips with different settings to find the optimal settings for your preferences.

You can also look in the psy-rd and AQ threads for examples & situations where it might help vs hinders

[nwg]

What causes the error of deleting the video.mkv file after analysing it and give the error cannot find file video.mkv?

I am suddenly getting this with both verion 13 and 14 after half a dozen successful encodes. The strange thing is I have already analysed the blu ray sucessfully but had to cancel and delete the ripbot temp directory.

[topsham]

I've been using this program for a while now to convert HD DVDs for playing on my PS3 and think it's great.

Having recently got an Iphone I thought I would try and convert one of my films to watch on that. I have tried the default settings for Iphone/Ipod and the conversion worked fine but disappointingly the image is very small as it is a full width letterbox with black bars top and bottom.

Can anyone suggest some settings that would use the full 480 x 320 screen of the phone cropping the image on either side? This way I would hope to get a good size and good quality image.

[jamd1]

Is the information collected in pass1 "job1.stats" using ripbot, bitrate specific to the job or does it analyse the video data for any re-encode ?
For example if I re-encode a movie using ripbot at a fixed bitrate of 4000kbps (720p) and then edit the job1 settings to re-encode the same movie at 6000kbps(720p), can I then maually run only pass 2: "job1_EncodeVideoPass2.cmd" alowing it to use the previously generated "job1.stats"?
Thx for any help.

[kriz6912]

I've just used RipBot264 and its very easy to use. However, I finished my first re-profile from a 6.8GB High@L5.1 MKV and ended up with a 4.1GB High@L4.0 MKV.

The thing that worries me is the rather large decrease in filesize of 2.7GB. Surely, this must have a considerable impact on quality? Is there some setting I should use in order to keep the video bit rate as high as possible?

A 2nd thing I noticed is that the subtitle stream has disappeared in the re-profiled version? Did I miss some setting for keeping subtitles? I do see a Subtitles-button but this appears to be a way for adding external subtitle files.

[Ajax_Undone]

What causes the error of deleting the video.mkv file after analysing it and give the error cannot find file video.mkv?

I am suddenly getting this with both verion 13 and 14 after half a dozen successful encodes. The strange thing is I have already analysed the blu ray sucessfully but had to cancel and delete the ripbot temp directory.

??? Now I wonder what your talking about... I never heard of anything like this...

[jamd1]

kriz6912 - If you want to retain same filesize - use 2-pass encode and set filesize in ripbot . Subtitles can only be added from external files with ripbot - First you need to make a .srt from your original .mkv and - then, best way with ripbot, is to build subtitles into the movie.

[asarian]

kriz6912
First you need to make a .srt from your original .mkv and - then, best way with ripbot, is to build subtitles into the movie.

Indeed. I tend to do a crop/addborders combo (if the movie isn't full 1080 pixels in height, of course), should I need subtitles (for Kill Bill and such). So, say, the main movie is 'effectively' 800px in height (of a full 1080), I would add this to the avs script:

video=Crop(video, 0, 140, 0, -140)
video=AddBorders(video, 0, 48, 0, 232)

A bottom-margin of 232 (or near about) nicely positions the movie so you can have subtitles underneath it, instead of over it (which I think looks gross).

[mikelebron]

Question Which mode CQ Mode or VB mode is generally better quality?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Can anyone suggest some settings that would use the full 480 x 320 screen of the phone cropping the image on either side? This way I would hope to get a good size and good quality image.
use PSP size (480x272)

[nwg]

??? Now I wonder what your talking about... I never heard of anything like this...

I think I have solved it but not sure what caused it. The Blu Ray is Prince Caspian. I created a Blu Ray with just AC3 audio and the original H264 video. Eac3to and Ripbot seemed to report the length as 13m 15s instead of 2.5 hours. I separated the video and AC3 and remuxed them back together. It now saids 2.5 hours in Ripbot and I now have a video.mkv at the end of analysis.

The other strange thing is Ripbot already analysed the files before without any problems.

[bbyers70]

Is there any way to have chapters imported from DVD/VOB files like they are done from Blu-Ray/M2TS files? It doesnt seem to matter whether mp4 or mkv files are created on the output. There are simply no chapters from a DVD.

[Donlac]

Just curious, but why does UAC need to be disabled?

[kriz6912]

kriz6912 - If you want to retain same filesize - use 2-pass encode and set filesize in ripbot .

If I select 2-Pass I can choose a video bit rate between 256 Kbps and 8192 Kbps. I'm unsure what to choose here since it's not the actual file size that needs to be entered here but the video bit rate (and is this a variable bit rate or fixed ?).

I guess selecting the maximum of 8192 would yield the best quality but might increase size of the file unnecessarily. On the other hand 8192 Kbps (or 'KBPS' as stated by Ripbot but I assume it's kilobit ripbot is talking about and not kilobyte) would mean 8 mbit which then sounds very limiting for high quality blu-ray rips.

As you can see I'm somewhat confused.

[CyberTron88]

I seem to have problem encoding U2 : Rattle and Hum HD-DVD.

This is found in the "video - Log.txt"

eac3to v2.77
command line: "C:\Users\yuchou\Desktop\RipBot264v1.11.4\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "C:\Users\yuchou\Desktop\rip\U2_RATTLE_AND_HUM\" 1) 3:"C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" 4:"C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac" 6:"C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitle.1.sup" 2:"C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 4 subtitle tracks, 1:38:52
"Main Movie"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 20 chapters with names
3: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: E-AC3 EX, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
5: DTS-ES, English, 6.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -4dB
6: Subtitle, English
7: Subtitle, French
8: Subtitle, Spanish
9: Subtitle, English, "SDH"
[a04] The Nero decoder doesn't seem to work, will use libav instead.
Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v03] Extracting video track number 3...
[v03] Removing h264 pulldown...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a04] Remapping channels...
[a04] Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
[a04] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
Loading white noise (needed for dithering)...
[v03] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Creating file "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac"...
[s06] Extracting subtitle track number 6...
Unfortunately the Haali Muxer cannot handle this source file.
It doesn't contain enough seek/recovery points.
The "-seekToIFrames" option may work around that.
However, using this option may result in artifacts when seeking.
Aborted at file position 189415424.


This is found in mkvinfo.txt

Error: The source file 'C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv' could not be opened successfully, or retrieving its size by seeking to the end did not work.

[laserfan]

If I select 2-Pass I can choose a video bit rate between 256 Kbps and 8192 Kbps.... As you can see I'm somewhat confused.Those last two are fixed for when your target is DVD-5 or DVD-9 (dual-layer writeables).

[rack04]

Can someone explain what "build subtitles into the movie" means? Is this similar to forced subtitles?

[topsham]

use PSP size (480x272)That's much better. Thank you.

[CupCak3]

I get the error in the attached image. "Directshowsource: Timeout waiting for graph to start".

I've searched and tried several fixes which have not helped.

The problem started with I upgraded to version 1.11.4. I had the "mjpg" error when starting the new version after I upgraded ffdshow. Per a post, I added "ffdshow_vfw" & the "default" key which seemed to fix that problem.

What is causing the timeout issue and how can I fix it?

Thank you.

[Atak_Snajpera]

I seem to have problem encoding U2 : Rattle and Hum HD-DVD.
Send me 50 MB .evo sample to www.mediafire.com . Use this tool http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/CutFile.shtml

[CyberTron88]

I've uploaded it to my server on http://www.netsingapore.com/ripbot/FEATURE_1_CUT.EVO. Thanks

[nwg]

Can someone explain what "build subtitles into the movie" means? Is this similar to forced subtitles?

It is. I used it with Pans Labyrinth and the subtitles come up automatically. I am not sure if they can be turned off.

[kriz6912]

If I select 2-Pass I can choose a video bit rate between 256 Kbps and 8192 Kbps.... As you can see I'm somewhat confused.

Those last two are fixed for when your target is DVD-5 or DVD-9 (dual-layer writeables).

So, what do I use when I have a 15GB MKV High@L5.1 that I want to convert to L4.0 without compromising the quality?

My best output (using 8192) will be something that fits on DVD-9. However, since I stream all my content over the network I want to retain the original 15GB MKV (and only re-profile it so that my NMT can handle it).

[Atak_Snajpera]

So, what do I use when I have a 15GB MKV High@L5.1 that I want to convert to L4.0 without compromising the quality?
How did you create that .mkv?

[nwg]

So, what do I use when I have a 15GB MKV High@L5.1 that I want to convert to L4.0 without compromising the quality?

My best output (using 8192) will be something that fits on DVD-9. However, since I stream all my content over the network I want to retain the original 15GB MKV (and only re-profile it so that my NMT can handle it).

If 8192 is a DVD 9 and about 50% of the size of your 15GB. How about doubling the bitrate to 16384?

[kriz6912]

How did you create that .mkv?

I didn't create the MKV myself. Just downloaded it. The file in question that my NMT won't play (but my PC will) - I've looked up the exact details - is actually a 12GB 1080p file of Transformers using High@L5.0.

If 8192 is a DVD 9 and about 50% of the size of your 15GB. How about doubling the bitrate to 16384?

Well, 2-pass will give me a dropdown box that maxes out at 8192. So, I can't simply enter 16384.

[rack04]

It is. I used it with Pans Labyrinth and the subtitles come up automatically. I am not sure if they can be turned off.

What about movies like Kill Bill that have intermittent English subtitles?

[asarian]

What about movies like Kill Bill that have intermittent English subtitles?

'Intermittent' is only a perception, of course. An .srt file is, after all, nothing more than a plain text file with subs in them + their respective time-indices. So, an .srt for Kill Bill could only contain subs for the Japanese, and the times they occur, and still be 'on' all the time.

[Ajax_Undone]

I didn't create the MKV myself. Just downloaded it. The file in question that my NMT won't play (but my PC will) - I've looked up the exact details - is actually a 12GB 1080p file of Transformers using High@L5.0.



Well, 2-pass will give me a dropdown box that maxes out at 8192. So, I can't simply enter 16384.

Maybe rule 6 can help you!!!

[asarian]

Maybe tomorrow . I need to see if madshi will update eac3to on sunday

Madshi just did. :)

[Atak_Snajpera]

I didn't create the MKV myself. Just downloaded it. The file in question that my NMT won't play (but my PC will) - I've looked up the exact details - is actually a 12GB 1080p file of Transformers using High@L5.0.
Bad answer amigo! :) You won't get any help here. Good bye.

Madshi just did.
Yes I knew but it's 00:35 in Dublin. Time to bed...ZzzZzzzzZzzzzz...........

[rack04]

'Intermittent' is only a perception, of course. An .srt file is, after all, nothing more than a plain text file with subs in them + their respective time-indices. So, an .srt for Kill Bill could only contain subs for the Japanese, and the times they occur, and still be 'on' all the time.

So what is the process for building subtitles into the movie? What software does RipBot264 use to perform this function?