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Atak_Snajpera
17th June 2010, 22:19
It seems that RipBot's calculator chooses a too-high bitrate for x264 to use, if including a DTS@1510 audiotrack (COPY STREAM).
Once again I encoded Avatar but this time I used DTS-Core 1510kbps. Resulted size was 4479,5 MB.

Abdur Rafi
17th June 2010, 22:31
:thanks: for your update.....

soneca
17th June 2010, 22:52
In the few AVCHD discs which have done (always with AC-3) are getting the right size = 4,36GiB.

laserfan
17th June 2010, 22:52
Once again I encoded Avatar but this time I used DTS-Core 1510kbps. Resulted size was 4479,5 MB.Well that's about perfect isn't it. :cool:

Thanks for reviewing this question. I'll look for my problem elsewhere... :)

dvgeek
18th June 2010, 01:11
.......//.....
Why don't you create your own strict Blu-Ray profile?
......//......



I did but there are some hard coded x264 parameters that I have to change every time - like

"--keyint 240 --min-keyint 24"

whereas I prefer "--keyint 24 --min-keyint 2"

Thanks.

ajua
18th June 2010, 01:26
Once again I encoded Avatar but this time I used DTS-Core 1510kbps. Resulted size was 4479,5 MB.I have ended up with 2 oversized encodes (locked to DVD5). Both with COPY STREAM for audio and they were about 3-5mb too big.

I don't think it has to do with DTS-core or not because one of my two oversized encodes used AC3 640kbps.

Could it be the version of the x264 encoder? While this is sorted out I keep a margin or 10mb just to be safe. Thanks.

Atak_Snajpera
18th June 2010, 12:38
whereas I prefer "--keyint 24 --min-keyint 2"
just put this in profile.

Could it be the version of the x264 encoder? While this is sorted out I keep a margin or 10mb just to be safe. Thanks.
why don't you check logs if set bitrate is the same with encoder's bitrate.

benjyv
18th June 2010, 15:09
Hi Atak ,

I'm encoding at least 2 files / day , and regarding the audio files , when select a DTS file to be encoded , the result will be - each time - an AC3..
Only ONE time a DTS file encoded and resulted a DTS encoded files and I didn't understand WHY ???

Which is the trick or the..secret ???
It requires different setings ???
The original DTS files should have special caracteristics to be encoded and resulted as ...DTS too ???

pacaveli211
18th June 2010, 15:24
you're probably not [always] selecting the xx copy stream option

benjyv
18th June 2010, 16:39
OK , probably....

But where is this option ??? ( xx copy stream option ) I cannot find it :(

PS : ATAK ????

I SEE YOU'RE ONLINE...PLS , CAN YOU SOLVE MY PROBLEM ???

THANKS A LOT !!!

soneca
18th June 2010, 19:32
If you do not want conversions, use the Eac3to and More GUI to extract the core tracks contained in the DTS HD MA and HI RES.

benjyv
18th June 2010, 19:39
@soneca

Maybe you don't understand me....I wanna use just Ripbot , not other softs for encoding and getting DTS files after encoding....

someone here told me about " selecting the xx copy stream option ".....

I don't know where is this option :(

that's my problem

laserfan
18th June 2010, 19:47
It's right under the audiotrack selection, as one of the options in the Profile drop-down. If you don't see such a thing then maybe your audio is corrupt or something.

benjyv
18th June 2010, 20:01
like this ???

http://i46.tinypic.com/2h863gk.jpg

or is in other place ????

Hyrax
18th June 2010, 20:03
Benjyv-
Another thing to consider... I believe that you cannot "xx copy stream" if you're creating an MP4. I know that was true in older versions, but am not sure about the 1.6 releases.

I didn't get any sleep last night and, perhaps I'm just feeling grumpy today, but your 'clever' avatar is really irritating to those like myself who look for responses from Atak_Snajpera. I gotta tell you that simply because of your avatar, I certainly would not help you if I were him.

benjyv
18th June 2010, 20:15
@Hyrax

I'm NOT creating an MP4....I wanna encode BD to 720p , i.e. mkv files...

Regarding my NEW avatar , it's true : you'r sleepy and grumpy , nobody ask your opinion concerning this avatar , so pls , continue to talk to walls !!!! :)

and a lil advice : when you're sleepy , try do not be OFF topic and do not answer to questions addressed others...

soneca
18th June 2010, 20:28
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p305/soneca1/Forum/ripbot-3.png

benjyv
18th June 2010, 20:49
Many thanks soneca !!!!!

I'll check it and tell you the results :D:))

Unfortunatelly that option is available ONLY for AVCHD as you can see in these pics :

http://i50.tinypic.com/2gwxobo.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/wupfg7.jpg

so....for MKV option , how can I activate that xx copy stream ???

Zorro70
18th June 2010, 21:52
X.x.copy stream doesnt always show up instantly, i usually have to check avchd before it becomes available as an option


you may be looking for it BEFORE you do this, and so missed it!!!

benjyv
18th June 2010, 22:09
@Zorro70

You suggest me to check FIRST AVCHD , then select xx copy stream and after that to select .mkv and it will appear ???
did I correct understood ???

soneca
18th June 2010, 23:20
I know of no other method.
Extract the core using eac3to or will have to convert the DTS-HD MA/HI RES for AC-3!!!

SuicideUZI
19th June 2010, 08:51
If you are using BD-R media where space isn't an issue from most .mkv files is it possible for ripbot to detect if the .mkv needs to be re-encoded to be compatible with blu-ray players and if it doesn't then just output to the AVCHD file structure without re-encoding?

benjyv
19th June 2010, 12:24
@soneca

No , that's the simple way you've told me...I knew it...I wanna use Ripbot , not other auxiliary softs to obtain DTS files....
There must be a secret , a trick , but Atak don't wanna tell us :(((((((((((((((

Atak ???

at least tell us what conditions or circumstances that option are openning ????

I don't thanks you 'coz I know you wouldn't answer me ;-)

Guest
19th June 2010, 12:32
Chill out, benjyv, or strikes will follow. Telling people to shut up is not appreciated here. Thank you.

popop
19th June 2010, 15:13
eac3to updated to 3.21 with many bug fixes

benjyv
19th June 2010, 16:18
THANK you , too @neuron2 !!!!!!


can you help me ??
to solve my problem ???

pacaveli211
19th June 2010, 17:39
If you are using BD-R media where space isn't an issue from most .mkv files is it possible for ripbot to detect if the .mkv needs to be re-encoded to be compatible with blu-ray players and if it doesn't then just output to the AVCHD file structure without re-encoding?
if you are using bd-r media you want to use bluray structure not AVCHD structure (there are hardly any differences but the things that are different seem to be of significance). and I don't know about you but I like to keep the original HD audio on mine. currently you can't do that through ripbot. you can only copy the PCM/decoded track (which takes up more space than DTS or TrueHD). I don't know why your source is mkv though http://i45.tinypic.com/hwdcli.gif but at mkv you usually need to be around 19GB to fit a BD25 (I assume you mean 25 as there wouldn't be any guessing or question of fitting if it were a BD50)

@soneca

No , that's the simple way you've told me...I knew it...I wanna use Ripbot , not other auxiliary softs to obtain DTS files....
There must be a secret , a trick , but Atak don't wanna tell us :(((((((((((((((

Atak ???

at least tell us what conditions or circumstances that option are openning ????

I don't thanks you 'coz I know you wouldn't answer me ;-)
I think it might extract the core if you demux the dts track or something. I remember it doing it under some circumstances. but the best solution is just to use something like tsmuxer and demux the core, then don't choose an audio track in the first stream selection screen. after it's setup the video part just browse for your demuxed DTS.

Ajax_Undone
19th June 2010, 17:56
THANK you , too @neuron2 !!!!!!


can you help me ??
to solve my problem ???

The option you want is NOT available for what ever reason. So you must adapt and use the tools suggested to get the result that you are looking for.

RipBot264 is only a GUI front end for a mass of tools that work just fine independently.
If the GUI doesn't support what you want. You can ask the author to support it as a feature.
If he says no. Then you can always use the tools independently to accomplish what you need.

A question was asked about multiple audio tracks a few versions ago. The author did not want it as a feature so it was never added.
As dismayed as it made the person(s) that wanted it as a feature; they respected that the author of the program did not want that as part of his program.

Now it may be that this will be supported in future versions, but the chances are slim. If you want more options there are only two ways you can you can go about getting them.

(1.) Use the tools independently to yield the result you want.
OR
(2.) Use a different GUI front end that will support what you need like MeGUI.

benjyv
19th June 2010, 20:08
Perfectly understood ..

Many THANKS @Ajax_Undone !!!

Hersha
20th June 2010, 01:10
Atak

Any chance of getting the option to stream copy the video and only encode the audio? I have a lot of TV shows that already have the proper video encoding on them and just want to down mix the audio so I can stick it on my iPad. I have yet to find a program to do this simply and it would be awesome if ripbot could.

Thanks and awesome software!

pacaveli211
20th June 2010, 01:32
Atak

Any chance of getting the option to stream copy the video and only encode the audio? I have a lot of TV shows that already have the proper video encoding on them and just want to down mix the audio so I can stick it on my iPad. I have yet to find a program to do this simply and it would be awesome if ripbot could.

Thanks and awesome software!

eac3to

Hersha
20th June 2010, 05:58
eac3to
Would use it if I knew how. Dont understand the syntax to get it to go from 5.1 AC3 to stereo AAC LC 128 Kbps. Its something like "eac3to input.ac3 output.aac -down2 -mixlfe"... Thats as far as I can figure out.

pacaveli211
20th June 2010, 07:22
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=135095
I recommend the older beta one

dbone1026
20th June 2010, 11:22
Would use it if I knew how. Dont understand the syntax to get it to go from 5.1 AC3 to stereo AAC LC 128 Kbps. Its something like "eac3to input.ac3 output.aac -down2 -mixlfe"... Thats as far as I can figure out.

Try using a program like PopcornMKV which will allow you to alter the audio track in an MKV without touching the video. Here is a writeup I did (It is from last year so apologies if it is outdated)

http://dbone1026.blogspot.com/2009/07/popcorn-mkv-audio-converter.html

Cartman
20th June 2010, 12:25
with 1.16.1 you updated to mkvmerge 4.0.0, which seems not to mux the VOBSUBs default track flag although set.

I reverted back to 3.4 and muxed again. With the old version the flag is set successfully.

This problem attracted my attention when playing with VLC where no subs were displayed since using using RipBot 1.16.1.

Bug with mkvtoolnix or some feature I don't know of?

dbone1026
20th June 2010, 12:28
with 1.16.1 you updated to mkvmerge 4.0.0, which seems not to mux the VOBSUBs default track flag although set.

I reverted back to 3.4 and muxed again. With the old version the flag is set successfully.

This problem attracted my attention when playing with VLC where no subs were displayed since using using RipBot 1.16.1.

Bug with mkvtoolnix or some feature I don't know of?

I think this was noted on the mkvtoonlix site that a change was made with subtitle handling in 4.0.

You can see discussion here - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1405881#post1405881

Cartman
20th June 2010, 14:29
Thanks for the hint. mkvmerge does not write values into the mkv header that are default anyway. So, is it a sole problem with the various media players that rely on the old behavior and did not handle the default values although specified by mkv?

dbone1026
20th June 2010, 14:43
Thanks for the hint. mkvmerge does not write values into the mkv header that are default anyway. So, is it a sole problem with the various media players that rely on the old behavior and did not handle the default values although specified by mkv?

That is my understanding, the media players will need to update

digib
20th June 2010, 23:20
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9264/32962800.png


Frankly I have no time for this. I have other gui to finish.

Any part of software I should focus in? What component/s uses ripbot in the process of demuxing audio?

It's obvious if you demux OK and I get that NO AUDIO line there is some component is not doing the job fine for ripbot ...

Thank you

8ternity
21st June 2010, 01:49
Hi 8ternity,

could you please give me your address. I just want to send a pressentbasket.
Just want to say it worked!!! Great thanks for that. I can't imagine why the order of installation was that important. Again, thanks for that and have a nice day!

I Really dont know. I've give that information to atak and atak was testing to install in every order. But personally i was using an french windows 7 genuine. Before i was in 120 days trial of windows 7. It's make me that issue more than 1 year. could that order can be an issued about windows version language?

I could'nt told you why it's make this and how i think to try this, but it worked. I saved that file into my bluray program folder so if i have that issue again,...

Great to help you with this.

For my email address, used the "PM" and send me an email and i will reply to it. :cool:

enjoy!

8ternity
21st June 2010, 01:55
How long should the "please wait.... initializing" take to end when you begin an encode on average? Its been sat there for around 30 mins now. Running Win 7 64bit, 2.66 Quad Core...

Not supposed to take that long. 2-3 minutes max depending on the computer speed, hard disk speed, etc.

Well that's about perfect isn't it. :cool:

Thanks for reviewing this question. I'll look for my problem elsewhere... :)

Personnally i was having the issue that if i set 4480 for DTS audio tracks, all the time the output projects are too large to burn it on a 4,7GB. i was set an 4425 MB size to fit them on a dvd5 and 8125 for DVD9 size. I should try again if that issue is not corrected in newer version. Since 1.10.X i was having that issue with all DTS audio tracks. If i was using AC3, sizing to DVD5 and DVD9 is correct.

8ternity
21st June 2010, 01:56
Any part of software I should focus in? What component/s uses ripbot in the process of demuxing audio?

It's obvious if you demux OK and I get that NO AUDIO line there is some component is not doing the job fine for ripbot ...

Thank you

1. -- Did you tried this:

- Demux manually with TsMuxerGUI.exe;
or
- Restart the project again?

-- Did the manual demuxing has worked?

Also here some things to done:
- Install latest version of Ripbot264 (Please give you version # when posting a issue)
- Install newer version of ffdshow tryout (clsid revision) more than 34XX
- Post an MediaInfo code source of the source file "Download MediaInfo here: http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en "

Hersha
22nd June 2010, 17:29
Try using a program like PopcornMKV which will allow you to alter the audio track in an MKV without touching the video. Here is a writeup I did (It is from last year so apologies if it is outdated)

http://dbone1026.blogspot.com/2009/07/popcorn-mkv-audio-converter.html

Okay I'll try it out when I get home from school. Thanks!

czahor
22nd June 2010, 19:23
hi all

I use tsMuxeR_1.10.6 to demux video from BlueRay, but in many cases the out file is just vc1 file (instead of .264 file)

But I can't add this .VC1 file to RipBot (RipBot264v1.15.1) because it is not listed as the supported file...

What should I do?

Please advise me if You use the RipBot and You managed to pass this step with vc1 files

(i just started new topic about this in general discusion ;/)

Atak_Snajpera
22nd June 2010, 19:25
just open any .m2ts directly from BD in ripbot (make sure that AnyDVD HD is running in background)

czahor
22nd June 2010, 19:31
thanks Snajper for prompt response. I have allready done that and demuxing process passed well but the timeout appered ;/

And it always happens :(

Atak_Snajpera
22nd June 2010, 19:32
Use latest version 1.16.1!

czahor
22nd June 2010, 19:33
ok downloading..

thanks and I will back to You with results :)

digib
22nd June 2010, 20:08
1. -- Did you tried this:

- Demux manually with TsMuxerGUI.exe;
or
- Restart the project again?

-- Did the manual demuxing has worked?

Also here some things to done:
- Install latest version of Ripbot264 (Please give you version # when posting a issue)
- Install newer version of ffdshow tryout (clsid revision) more than 34XX
- Post an MediaInfo code source of the source file "Download MediaInfo here: http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en "

Hi 8ternity, thanks for supporting.

Yes, I have tried redoing the project, it's an issue I have for some months, when prior to the last windows XP reinstallation worked well. That's why I dont doubt it should work well and the problem is in some part of Ripbot external applications like ffdshow, avisynth... don't know.

Ts muxer reports error when open these kind of files, I guess it is because it is not an mkv or ts, instead it is an .avi

If I pick the same file compressed with autogk, which is xvid video and mp3 audio, ripbot works fine. It has to be something related to the monochannel PCM audio track. In previous posts I showed what mediainfo logs from the audio track:

Audio
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Unsigned
Codec ID : 1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 1s 700ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 705.6 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 146 KiB (5%)
Interleave, duration : 46 ms (1.38 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms


I'm using 1.16.1 and ffdshow recently uninstalled and reinstalled with version ffdshow_rev3476_20100615_clsid

Atak_Snajpera
22nd June 2010, 20:16
Show us FULL mediainfo report