RipBot264 v1.18.3 - Simple and easy to use GUI -> IPOD . PSP . CONSOLES . BLURAY

[pacaveli211]

is the difference because after the main movie plays a 4 second something is referenced?
like a 'Rated PG13' screen or something?
this might be something that's not in the movie vobs themselves but somehow referenced in the index file so it plays immediately after the movie

[soneca]

Just wanted to know if anyone has encountered this before....
If I load the .vob to RipBot and let it index using dgindex, the length of the video is not accurate.(longer by 7 seconds)
The only way I could get the correct video length was to use MakeMKV on the DVD first then open the file with RipBot.
Another way will be to use HandBrake to open the DVD .vob folder.

To avoid such problems with RipBot i prefer to join the vobs using DVDShrink Re-author mode.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p305/soneca1/Forum/dvdshrink.png

[Ajax_Undone]

And all of this should be done with anydvd. Except for the merger of the files but that is taken into account in ripbot.
Meh what ever...

[LigH]

There are countries in this world where even the existence of something like AnyDVD or DVDDecrypter seems to be prohibited by law... ;)
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@ Lighto:

Your mistake is probably to copy the VOBs as they are. VOBs may contain several logical units called "Program Chains" (PGCs) – like an FBI warning or a studio trailer in front of the main movie; but DGMPGDec can only handle one PGC (and only one video angle). You need to extract the main movie PGC out of the VOBs. DVD rippers called this the "Movie mode" or the "IFO mode". If you already copied all files to your harddisk (including IFOs), you may as well use PGCDemux to extract the main movie PGC afterwards.

Concatenating VOB segments is certainly not necessary. Those tools which can handle VOBs as input also know that they have to be handled contiguously. And those who prefer elemental streams can get them concatenated after demultiplexing (a.k.a. "Stream processing" in the older DVD rippers).

[Ajax_Undone]

There are countries in this world where even the existence of something like AnyDVD or DVDDecrypter seems to be prohibited by law... ;)


I realize this but the OT said he was using anydvd

AnyDVD HD > CloneDVD2(select main video 1:14:37) > Open .vob with RipBot > RipBot index using dgindex and reports 1:14:41

[Lighto]

There are countries in this world where even the existence of something like AnyDVD or DVDDecrypter seems to be prohibited by law... ;)
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@ Lighto:

Your mistake is probably to copy the VOBs as they are. VOBs may contain several logical units called "Program Chains" (PGCs) – like an FBI warning or a studio trailer in front of the main movie; but DGMPGDec can only handle one PGC (and only one video angle). You need to extract the main movie PGC out of the VOBs. DVD rippers called this the "Movie mode" or the "IFO mode". If you already copied all files to your harddisk (including IFOs), you may as well use PGCDemux to extract the main movie PGC afterwards.

Concatenating VOB segments is certainly not necessary. Those tools which can handle VOBs as input also know that they have to be handled contiguously. And those who prefer elemental streams can get them concatenated after demultiplexing (a.k.a. "Stream processing" in the older DVD rippers).

Thanks for the tip, didn't know it could be done this way.:thanks:

Did what you said using the PgcDemux method but the demuxed .wav is still 1:14:41, the demuxed .m2v is 00:57:24.

The encode will be 1:14:41 due to the audio but this causes the chapters to not be accurate as it is meant for 1:14:37.

http://i.imgur.com/YMThl.png
http://i.imgur.com/WPYpH.png

[LigH]

Don't trust the time values guessed by tools which just look into the MPEG header, read the maximum bitrate the MPEG encoder was set to, and divide that with the filesize to roughly guess a playing time. The bitrate of the *.m2v is variable. To measure its playing time exactly, one has to count the frames in each GOP, which hardly any program does (because it takes too much time).

Compare with the nonsense "26 hours" reported for VOB 3 and 4.

What is the time after indexing the *.m2v with DGIndex.exe and loading the AviSynth script into VirtualDub? This script should know the frame count from the *.d2v index file and the frame rate.

[Lighto]

Don't trust the time values guessed by tools which just look into the MPEG header, read the maximum bitrate the MPEG encoder was set to, and divide that with the filesize to roughly guess a playing time. The bitrate of the *.m2v is variable. To measure its playing time exactly, one has to count the frames in each GOP, which hardly any program does (because it takes too much time).

Compare with the nonsense "26 hours" reported for VOB 3 and 4.

What is the time after indexing the *.m2v with DGIndex.exe and loading the AviSynth script into VirtualDub? This script should know the frame count from the *.d2v index file and the frame rate.

The indexed video length reported by Virtual Dub is 1:14:41....However when playing the DVD, it states otherwise.
http://i.imgur.com/hOowj.png
http://i.imgur.com/IArAu.png

[jandor]

Please forgive me if this has already been mentioned before... I searched on Google and found nothing specific.
Error while opening the RipBot Preview/MPC of a DVD:

CAVIStreamSynth: System exception - Access Violation at 0x777332ff, reading from 0x3e3e3c40


Ligh and Lighto
Just to add ... regarding your discussion.============= VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 All inclusive (http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualdubmod/files/VirtualDubMod/VirtualDubMod%201.5.10.2/VirtualDubMod_1_5_10_2_All_inclusive.zip/download)
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7112/vdmp.jpg

[puplone]

What else would you like to demux???

Suppose I add a poster in an encode and delete the source jpg. Is it possible to retrieve it later from inside the video? (It is inside; coz it shows in the thumbnail view of windows.)

what 'queue' button?

http://img1.imagehousing.com/29/871b3fc07bbe2a4192250fcd0ca79ccb.jpg (http://www.imagehousing.com/)

Thanx for showing how to google, anyway; that was a great tutorial.

[Lighto]

Suppose I add a poster in an encode and delete the source jpg. Is it possible to retrieve it later from inside the video? (It is inside; coz it shows in the thumbnail view of windows.)



http://img1.imagehousing.com/29/871b3fc07bbe2a4192250fcd0ca79ccb.jpg (http://www.imagehousing.com/)

Thanx for showing how to google, anyway; that was a great tutorial.

Can probably be done with YAMB > Editing > extract streams.
I am not 100% sure though.

[puplone]

Can probably be done with YAMB > Editing > extract streams.
I am not 100% sure though.

No, it can't be. YAMB only shows Audio, Video and Subtitles to extract / demux.

[Lighto]

No, it can't be. YAMB only shows Audio, Video and Subtitles to extract / demux.

My bad. The album arts are considered tags, not streams.
That's why YAMB didn't show it.

[pacaveli211]

that queue button is to select / deselect the jobs listed....this I simply figured out by....clicking it!
that poster should have a copy in the job folder
to extract it from the file...I'd have to mess around with it
first thing I'd try is winamp, cuz I know winamp will let you save artwork from other files

[jandor]

Atak_Snajpera

Just a suggestion...
Would it be possible to include the PgcDemux of 288KB in the tools of the RipBot?
The PgcDemux really stabilizes, while joining the VOB files, ending any asynchrony. He works from the IFO file.
He does the same thing as DVD Shrink > Re-author, which is also very good. Cited by soneca.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7771/pgcdemux.jpg

[Lighto]

Please forgive me if this has already been mentioned before... I searched on Google and found nothing specific.
Error while opening the RipBot Preview/MPC of a DVD:




Ligh and Lighto
Just to add ... regarding your discussion.============= VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 All inclusive (http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualdubmod/files/VirtualDubMod/VirtualDubMod%201.5.10.2/VirtualDubMod_1_5_10_2_All_inclusive.zip/download)
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7112/vdmp.jpg

Thank you all for your help, I decided to rip the DVD using a "workaround".

The problem is that the indexed video and output is longer than what is should be.
Therefore the chapters extracted from the .IFO file are not working well on the encoded video.

Fortunately, the chapter file generated by MakeMKV sort of account for the change in video length and eliminates the problem of "inaccurate" chapters.

Therefore I just encode the DVD and mux in the chapter generated by MakeMKV.

Speaking of which, MakeMKV is like the only tool I found that could fix my "video length/chapter" problem and my wrong subtitle colour problem (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1490641#post1490641).

[puplone]

Horrible news!!!!!!

AVG Internet Security 2011 (virus db. Apr, 11) detects RipBot264 as MALWARE!!!

http://img1.imagehousing.com/19/67a7820cad90883698af37578d1d0128.jpg (http://www.imagehousing.com/)

Those stupid 'Grisoft' creatures...

Atak! Teach them your awesome tinyurl google search tutorial to let them know what RipBot is.

WOW WOW!!! Look at the 'Description' part. Specially 'Category' of threat. I'm sure Atak is not that bad spying our computers. ;-)

[Atak_Snajpera]

Dump this shit and use Microsoft security essentials. Ripbot264 does not even have any network code. SO it does not even check if new version is available.

[Ajax_Undone]

LOL nice! AVG Sux so bad. A wonderful coloured American $50 says that you have at least 3 variants of known malware on your system. One of which is NOT Ripbot264. AVG Avast and Norton are the worst Anticrap on the planet and have continued in this practice for the entire endurance of their life.

[jandor]

The topic is not about that, but... I work with computers since 1994. Since then, I tested all the antivirus.
And only after I installed the "ESET Smart Security", from there I had no threats or warnings of false positive.

[Ajax_Undone]

2 up for eset. A couple of pages back my installer was labelled as a threat by some ones nortons. Its just pay per Cruft!!! So meh. Some AV's are more a Virus then the Viruses they pretend to block / prevent.

Even Miocrosoft Security Essentials is a way better choice then norton, avg, avast, panda and a few others.

But Eset if you going to purchase and AV is the best choice..

[puplone]

You people stop blaming professional softwares. They are not stupid man, they are doing business.

I've had an analysis on the threat detection. AVG is detecting it 'Malware' (not 'Spyware') on the basis of a single logic (bloodhood). Read the description of the threat in my post : there includes "RESOURCE CONSUMPTION".

Ha ha!!! Any encoder definitely is resource hunger and RipBot is unknown to AVG's trusted database.

WE ARE SAFE USING RIPBOT - Thats for sure ....

[puplone]

Show me difference between mp4 and m4v! SERIOUSLY!!!

As far I know m4v is the iPod / iTunes friendly version of mp4.

There is no difference between those two filetypes while you play them in computer; even you can simply change the extension from m4v to mp4, it still works fine. But there are differences when you play an mp4 in an iPod-5G : Video stops in between, Audio-video sync issues arrives ...

Test it, take an iPod-5G compatible m4v, demux apart the audio and video and re-mux : you can't adjust sync. if it matchs at beginning, doesn't match at the end. I've generated two files from the same source : an .mp4 and an iPod-5G compatible .m4v and studied the demuxed aac-s in an audio grapher. The difference what I found hardly is aac from m4v is sometimes silent part removed, may be it syncs with video using some time tagging technique during playback, I'm not sure.

Thats why there are special options in 'HandBrake':

http://img1.imagehousing.com/15/b03a8912ad976195e9d4cec1de301151.jpg (http://www.imagehousing.com/)

[puplone]

first thing I'd try is winamp, cuz I know winamp will let you save artwork from other files

Thanks pacaveli211, Ya it can work, let me have a try too...

I've tried with J River Media Center. Its tagging feature is good. Generally it provides the access to the embeded poster of audio files (like mp3) by copying it to clipboard and paste in a photo editor, but somehow it can't even read / show the poster included from that mp4; extraction is far away.

Thanx anyway ...

[puplone]

My bad. The album arts are considered tags, not streams.
That's why YAMB didn't show it.

I think mp4box itself is a tagger and YAMB (Yet Another MP4Box Graphical Interface for Windows Users.) is a GUI of it powered by addl. tools (like mkvextract, eac3to etc.)

This is the file encoded with poster using Ripbot, Windows showing the thumbnail:

http://img1.imagehousing.com/37/8f827a1442921f50e4f24baff119591d.jpg (http://www.imagehousing.com/)

When I open it using YAMB 'File Tagger'(setting mp4box as a tagger), the poster is not shown.

http://img1.imagehousing.com/5/7efc46660550a3a9016f56fc409e1809.jpg (http://www.imagehousing.com/)

I go for advanced tagging of file properties clicking 'More' button; the image is still absent under 'artwork' tab.

http://img1.imagehousing.com/97/6236fb315881c4dc0d5d55edf7b784eb.jpg (http://www.imagehousing.com/)

Even if I set a picture by the 'Add' button (indicated above) to a fresh mp4 and save the tag; the poster is not displayed in Windows thumbnail (as the first image).

I'm confused between these three kinds of artworks handled by mp4box:
1. One added by RipBot during encoding (or simply calling mp4box from commandline : "<path>\mp4box.exe" -tmp "<path>\temp" -add "<path>\video.mp4" -itags cover="<path>\poster.jpg" -new "<path>\New_video.mp4" : thanx to 'pacaveli211').
2. The picture shown at the left side of file tagger of YAMB.
3. The pictures under "artworks" (supports multiple pictures) tab of properties box of YAMB.

[benjyv]

Regarding SUBTITLES !!!!

If I forgot to check subtitles for beeing encoded , at the begining , later what can I do ??
Should I RE-ENCODE again ??? :hmmm: I don't think so...it must be another way to attach subtitles to an already encoded file !

I reffer to .sup files , which are automatically encoded by ripbot......
There is any possibility to make from sup.file a .srt file ??

Pls , give me an option to attach later subtitles as .sup file !!! Thanks !

[Atak_Snajpera]

mkvmerge.exe

[benjyv]

I know that it could be attached using mkvmerge.exe, but if the file is .sup ????

Does it works like a .srt one ???

[Atak_Snajpera]

Why don't you try? Do you always need everything ready on tray?

[benjyv]

I've tried , of course I've tried , but unfortunatelly it doesn't work :(
My question is : Ripbot can do that operation without encoding again ??? Does it have such a function that could be used separatelly ??

Or putting another way : which is the mechanism by which Ripbot makes adaptation and decrypt .sup files ?
If I wanna use mkvmerge.exe to attach .sup files I need first to fix them using suprip soft...
Can I do same thing , as Ripbot ????
can you tell me HOW can I do that ???

Thanks !

[Lighto]

I've tried , of course I've tried , but unfortunatelly it doesn't work :(
My question is : Ripbot can do that operation without encoding again ??? Does it have such a function that could be used separatelly ??

Or putting another way : which is the mechanism by which Ripbot makes adaptation and decrypt .sup files ?
If I wanna use mkvmerge.exe to attach .sup files I need first to fix them using suprip soft...
Can I do same thing , as Ripbot ????
can you tell me HOW can I do that ???

Thanks !

Probably using BDSup2Sub which is located in RipBot's tools folder.
Not 100% sure though.

[puplone]

My question is : Ripbot can do that operation without encoding again ???

Thats what I asked for earlier. There are many operations user requires to execute without re-encoding (as-is).

Well, benjyv, you can try "Urusoft Subtitle workshop" for editing / conversion of subtitle files and / or try remuxing using YAMB if you wanna keep the source subtitle format (drag-drop all the resources you wanna include, if it is supported : YAMB will accept).

[joae]

Is there any hope in getting add a folder -functionality? Adding hundreds of files, all having the same source characteristics and same output settings one-by-one is tedious.

[benjyv]

HI Atak !!

I've already asked you , but I need to ask again 'cuz I didn't get any answer :

Where is the option for changing B-Pyramid - Normal. Now is setted only b-pyramid none!!

Also I must change some other settings like : Adaptive Quantizers strength , M.E. Range , M.E. Algorithm , Psy-RD strength , a.s.o.

If you wanna talk about details of these parameters ,I'm waiting a PM from you or a discussion here !!

[hopstiii]

Hi :)

I don't know how to use custom video bit rate for 2 pass encoding.
Is there way for that?

[hoju3508]

Just enter the desired bitrate in the 'kbps' box, and make sure that the 'lock size' box is unchecked.

[hopstiii]

Just enter the desired bitrate in the 'kbps' box, and make sure that the 'lock size' box is unchecked.

:thanks: worked out perfectly.
RipBot264 is my favorite x264 encoder :)

[7ekno]

Where is the option for changing B-Pyramid - Normal. Now is setted only b-pyramid none!!

Also I must change some other settings like : Adaptive Quantizers strength , M.E. Range , M.E. Algorithm , Psy-RD strength , a.s.o.


Use the Commandline, Ripbot has always allowed use of custom commandlines ....

Probably explains why no answer, it's not really worth stating as you obviously haven't tried it ....

7ek

[lemaireus]

Atak, a feature request: in the audio conversion options for .mkv, can you provide an option for converting DTS 1.5mbps streams to legacy DTS 754kbps? That cuts the file size by half--1.5mbps stream can sometimes seem unnecessary for some soundtracks--while still keeping a DTS track. 640kbps ac3 is a perfectly good alternative, but 754kbps DTS would also be a nice option to have, and with EAC3 already in the tools perhaps this, I hope, wouldn't be too difficult to implement.

[Atak_Snajpera]

This does not make sense because DTS 768 kbps would sound worse than AC3 448 kbps. According to tests DTS 1,5Mbps sounds as good as AC3 640kbps if encoded from lossless format. Also don't forget that re-encoding lossy format to another lossy will cause futher degradation in quality.

[soneca]

Atak,

Is there any way to make the RipBot load this script, or the only way is to load the avs script as input a video?

"DirectShowSource("D:\BLU_RAY\A_AVENTURA_PELOS_RECIFES_DE_CO\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts")
MCTemporalDenoise(settings="medium" ,gpu=TRUE)"

[pacaveli211]

yeah...if you're lookin to save space by doing something with a dts 1.5mbps track...you should encode to AC3 640. DTS 768 would be dumb
if you really feel you need a 768kbps track you can do so with surcode

[hopstiii]

How about new profiles?
"[DXVA] Highest Q 720p"
"[DXVA] Highest Q 1080p"

It works on my Ati HD-3870. Can u test it out with older cards and newest driver if it plays in MPC-HC DXVA mode.

720p code line:
--level 4.1 --vbv-bufsize 50000 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --filter 0,0 --ref 9 --bframes 16 --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid none --subme 10 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 2 --partitions all --me tesa --keyint 300 --min-keyint 30 --merange 40
http://static3.nagi.ee/i/p/725/4/1812605149a4b5_o.jpg

1080p code line:
--level 4.1 --vbv-bufsize 50000 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --filter 0,0 --ref 4 --bframes 16 --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid none --subme 10 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 2 --partitions all --me tesa --keyint 300 --min-keyint 30 --merange 60
http://static3.nagi.ee/i/p/725/38/18134585b245cb_o.jpg

[benjyv]

Where is the option for changing B-Pyramid - Normal. Now is setted only b-pyramid none!!

How can I change some other settings like : Adaptive Quantizers strength , M.E. Range , M.E. Algorithm , Psy-RD strength , a.s.o. ????

How can I attach a .sup file ( after demuxing it , of course) to a movie , without re-encoding ???

I forgot to select it in the begining :(

Hope this time will answer somebody who REALLY knows the true answers !!! ;-)

[hopstiii]

Where is the option for changing B-Pyramid - Normal. Now is setted only b-pyramid none!!

How can I change some other settings like : Adaptive Quantizers strength , M.E. Range , M.E. Algorithm , Psy-RD strength , a.s.o. ????

In command line box below in encoder settings GUI.


How can I attach a .sup file ( after demuxing it , of course) to a movie , without re-encoding ???

mkvmerge GUI
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVtoolnix

From input add mp4 add audio add subtitles
and mux
http://static3.nagi.ee/i/p/725/39/1813476185d611_o.jpg

[benjyv]

@hopstiii

Thanks but here we're talking about Ripbot and its specific settings :(

Following your advice I must give up to Ripbot and use classical MeGui...I know very well to use MeGui and do settings there..

Here is the issue ,on Ripbot ;-)

[star5]

Thank you for RipBot264!
Discovered two errors in RipBot264.
1. Not correct expose aspect ratio (720x480-704x480)
Source 720x480.avs (1.5 = 15:10) -> 720x480 (1.77 = 16:9) :(
Source 712x480.avs (1.5 = 15:10) -> 712x480 (1.5 = 15:10) OK! :)
Source 704x480.avs (1.5 = 15:10) -> 704x480 (1.77 = 16:9) :(

2. Not correct determine the fps H264 in avi.
If the source x264.avi (x264 23.976fps), RipBot264 defines 25fps. :(
If the source Xvid.avi (Xvid 23.976fps), RipBot264 determine correctly 23.976fps. OK! :)
Sorry for my English (Google Translate)

[hopstiii]

@hopstiii
Following your advice I must give up to Ripbot

No need,
they are 2 different programs for different tasks.
Both programs are very good for what they do.

Sure just mux would be awesome feature in RipBot264.

[jandor]

Atak

Just remembering ... http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1493298&postcount=9466
I have done some encoding of DVD, and I can say that the tool PgcDemux was primordial to the success of all.
Without making the demux by PgcDemux or DVD Shrink (Re-author) is impossible to succeed at all.

[hopstiii]

Where is the option for changing B-Pyramid - Normal. Now is setted only b-pyramid none!!

How can I change some other settings like : Adaptive Quantizers strength , M.E. Range , M.E. Algorithm , Psy-RD strength , a.s.o. ????

B-Pyramid - Normal.
--b-pyramid <string> Keep some B-frames as references [normal]
- none: Disabled
- strict: Strictly hierarchical pyramid
- normal: Non-strict (not Blu-ray compatible)

Adaptive Quantizers strength
--aq-strength <float> Reduces blocking and blurring in flat and
textured areas. [1.0]

M.E. Range
--merange <integer> Maximum motion vector search range [40 for 720p, 60 for 1080p]

M.E. Algorithm
--me <string> Integer pixel motion estimation method ["hex"]
- dia: diamond search, radius 1 (fast)
- hex: hexagonal search, radius 2
- umh: uneven multi-hexagon search
- esa: exhaustive search
- tesa: hadamard exhaustive search (slow)

Psy-RD strength
--psy-rd Strength of psychovisual optimization ["1.0:0.0"]
#1: RD (requires subme>=6)
#2: Trellis (requires trellis, experimental)

Example:
--b-pyramid strict --aq-strength 0 --merange 60 --me umh --psy-rd 1

That will go in code box.