RipBot264 v1.18.3 - Simple and easy to use GUI -> IPOD . PSP . CONSOLES . BLURAY

[~bT~]

thanks Atak for the new version! will test it out!

edit: thanks for adding the new options in .ini. :D

[lexor]

I still don't how to reverse bluray formula therefore size is not calculated correctly. MP4 and MKV are very easy to calculate but BluRay ... :(


meaning that bitrate is calculated correctly from size, but size from bitrate is incorrect (i.e. I should rely on lock file size option)?

[IYG]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1111937#post1111937

So if I just rip from DVD5 or DVD9, I can choose use b-pyramids.
Is it right?

[Atak_Snajpera]

EDIT: Also, after RipBot has finished encoding the audio where does it go? Does it get stored in a temp folder? It didn't appear in the output folder I allocated.
It goes straight into container.

Any idea what caused this?
Does your cpu support SSE?

So if I just rip from DVD5 or DVD9, I can choose use b-pyramids.
Is it right?

I'm not sure if b-pyramids works with DXVA cards correctly.

meaning that bitrate is calculated correctly from size, but size from bitrate is incorrect (i.e. I should rely on lock file size option)?
My formula

if audiobitrate=196608 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.008267196)/100 else
if audiobitrate=229376 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.013130252)/100 else
if audiobitrate=262144 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.010629252)/100 else
if audiobitrate=393216 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.009704969)/100 else
if audiobitrate=458752 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.013130252)/100 else
if audiobitrate=655360 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.008267196)/100 else
if audiobitrate=786432 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.009704969)/100 else
if audiobitrate=1572864 then multiplier:=1/(size*0.009704969)/100;

overhead:=1+(duration*multiplier+4.34)/100;


if copyaudiostream=0 then tempcalc:=( (size*1048576/overhead-SubtitleFileSize) /duration*8-audiobitrate)/1000;
if copyaudiostream=1 then tempcalc:=(size*1048576/overhead-AudioFileSize*1.024-SubtitleFileSize)/duration*8/1000;

As you can see I need >size< in order to calculate correct >multiplier< value

[gav1577]

Hi Atak_Snajpera is 25000 the max vbv for avchd? if i were to go over that say 38000 like in a bluray profile would this lead to stutter
if burned to dvd9 in a bluray structure? or is anything above 25000
considered only appropriate for bluray media?

thanks gav

[Atak_Snajpera]

25000 or 38000 does it change anything??? I doubt you encode @ more than 12mbps.

[gav1577]

25000 or 38000 does it change anything??? I doubt you encode @ more than 12mbps.

I do encode higher than 12mbps just vc1 to x264 because of vc1 stutter issues after changing framerate to 25fps because my tv does not support 24htz.when rexuxing i get stutter every second or more on panning scenes. only seems to be a problem with vc1 though. my aim is keep video size and quality as original as possible
while stripping extra audio and unwanted streams i can manage this with h264 keeping the original video and audio just not vc1. because the odd 1 or 2 movies may exceed
25000 max vbr i just wanted some advice if playback from dvd would be affected by a high vbv because i would like to watch these movies on my ps3 when i get one and will have to use dvd media until i can afford a bluray burner.anyone succeeded playing
avchd movies on ps3 or bluray player with a vbv higher than 25000 with no problems? :confused:

[~bT~]

^ it'd be easier if u did a test yourself & let us know too ;)

[gav1577]

^ it'd be easier if u did a test yourself & let us know too ;)
I will do that but have to wait a week or so for my ps3 as soon as i get it i will let everyone know just thought someone may have tried already and has the answer or someone fortunate enough to own a ps3 could run a few tests and let us know :)

[~bT~]

^ i don't have such sources to test otherwise i would've tested.

[~bT~]

REQUEST:

Would it be poss to add multiple files to one Blu-ray folder in future releases pls?
Unless it's already implemented and I'm not looking @ the right place again..

[eyekyu]

REQUEST:

Would it be poss to add multiple files to one Blu-ray folder in future releases pls?
Unless it's already implemented and I'm not looking @ the right place again..


yeah that would be cool

@Atak, whats CQ and benefit versus 2pass?

[Ryu77]

It goes straight into container.

Hmmm.... So since the audio encoding is done first in RipBot, you are saying that the audio will be placed into a Matroska container with no video?

Either way... The audio (ac3) or container (mkv) are not showing up in the output folder I allocated.

Do I need to wait for the entire encode to finish before I can see these files? If this is the case then there must be a temp folder to store the encoded audio and the 1st pass information etc.

Where can I find it?


Does your cpu support SSE?

Yes, it supports SSE and SSE2.



Thank you for all your help and this excellent little application. :thanks:

[Atak_Snajpera]

temp audio (and video) is stored in RipBot264temp directory then it goes into container along with video.264.

@Atak, whats CQ and benefit versus 2pass?

CQ = Constant Quality
+ 1 pass
+ bitrate is automatically raised or lowered in order to maintain the same quality in all sources
- Size cannot be predicted

2-pass
+ Size can be predicted
- longer encoding

Would it be poss to add multiple files to one Blu-ray folder in future releases pls?
Unless it's already implemented and I'm not looking @ the right place again..

eee... something like playlist ?

[survivant001]

eee... something like playlist ?

that's my request too.. will be great for anime. Few eps by dvd5

I'll ask roman

[~bT~]

eee... something like playlist ?

Yes :thanks:

[Atak_Snajpera]

not possible at the moment.

[gav1577]

I have a feature request too if possible a split files size option for bluray would be handy perhaps integrate hdbdsplit somehow? :)

[Zow]

Hey, now that RipBot264 BR supports subtitles, does it mean that I can finally do a one stop rip from Blu-Ray to mkv?

I tried last night with The Lives of Others, but the subtitles are just not there. If I say "with subtitles," or whatever the drop-down menu was, it looks for a .srt file, which of course I don't have (since it's Blu-Ray.)

[Atak_Snajpera]

does it mean that I can finally do a one stop rip from Blu-Ray to mkv?

No you can't.

[~bT~]

Atak, what new features are you looking to implement in future versions?

Also, will you be adding support for neroaacenc?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Atak, what new features are you looking to implement in future versions?
LPCM and FLAC support

Also, will you be adding support for neroaacenc?

No,

[survivant001]

with the latest output bluray, do you think we should continue to convert the audio to AC3, and keep the DTS audio track ?

If we do, that implied that we will need to burn it on a dvd, if convert to ac3 it will continue to play in the XMB.

People... any comments ?

[Ryu77]

with the latest output bluray, do you think we should continue to convert the audio to AC3, and keep the DTS audio track ?

If we do, that implied that we will need to burn it on a dvd, if convert to ac3 it will continue to play in the XMB.

People... any comments ?

PS3 supports m2ts media files only with ac3 audio, not DTS.

PS3 supports AVCHD disc (Blu-ray disc structure on DVD5 or DVD9) with ac3 or DTS. You can even have both ac3 and DTS if you like.

[IYG]

I'm not sure if b-pyramids works with DXVA cards correctly.


So how can I test that it works correctly or not after it's finished?

[survivant001]

PS3 supports m2ts media files only with ac3 audio, not DTS.

PS3 supports AVCHD disc (Blu-ray disc structure on DVD5 or DVD9) with ac3 or DTS. You can even have both ac3 and DTS if you like.

exactly what I said. but my question.. should I convert it are not ?

if I choose DTS, the video bitrate will be smaller than ac3 audio track. So the point is... will the audio quality worth the cost over the viode quality ?

[~bT~]

^ not worth the cost of a dvd9 IMO.

[~bT~]

can somebody tell me which player to use on xp to play the blu-ray folder output by ripbot264? thanks!

[survivant001]

can somebody tell me which player to use on xp to play the blu-ray folder output by ripbot264? thanks!

you can play the .m2ts with any player that use directsource.. so almost anything.

I use Zoomplayer or MPC.

if you want to play like a bluray on HD... I think PowerDVD can do that.. but not sure if the feature was remove in the latest release.

[survivant001]

@ajak

StoreTempFilesin=TEMP

Can I use

StoreTempFilesin=c:\here\

instead ? I hate to go in Documents and setting\admin\local... too long

[Atak_Snajpera]

StoreTempFilesin=TEMP
replace TEMP with C

[Ryu77]

exactly what I said. but my question.. should I convert it are not ?

if I choose DTS, the video bitrate will be smaller than ac3 audio track. So the point is... will the audio quality worth the cost over the viode quality ?

Oh, I am sorry. I read your question wrong.

The answer for that question really depends on the quality of your audio equipment and/or your preferences for audio quality.

I have an AV reciever pushing out 1500w RMS with a 5.2 set-up (2 sub-woofers). I usually re-encode DTS to DD (ac3) 5.1 @ 640kbps with EAC3to (Sonic filter) and the quality difference is very minor.

[Ryu77]

can somebody tell me which player to use on xp to play the blu-ray folder output by ripbot264? thanks!

I didn't think RipBot264 could output Blu-ray folders directly... ?

Do you have the direct show codecs installed required to play h264, AC3 and DTS?

If you do, then my recommendation would be Media Player Classic for media file playback and PowerDVD v7.2 (or above) for Blu-ray folder playback. :)

Note: If you are having problems with playback, install the K-lite mega codec pack (Media Player Classic is also included in this pack).

[~bT~]

^ thanks for the info. but i'll give the codec pack a miss as I hate them :)

[~bT~]

Problem:

Converted this file to Blu-ray as a test.
Format : Matroska
Length : 42 MiB for 3mn 20s 202ms

Video #0 : MPEG-4 AVC
Aspect : 624 x 464 (1.345) at 23.976 fps

Audio #0 : MPEG1/2 L3
Infos : 2 channels, 44 KHz

Contains no audio.

Sample (http://rapidshare.com/files/100110329/kelly_rowland_work.mkv.html)

Edit: Doh! Didn't even realise there was a new version..

[Atak_Snajpera]

install the K-lite mega codec pack
DO NOT INSTALL THIS SHIT!!!!! CODEC PACKS ARE FOR LAMERS AND NOOBS!

can somebody tell me which player to use on xp to play the blu-ray folder output by ripbot264? thanks!
open *.m2ts in MPC. Simple!

[~bT~]

tried again with the latest version. still same issue. audio is not being converted properly and also not being muxed in final stage.

[Ryu77]

DO NOT INSTALL THIS SHIT!!!!! CODEC PACKS ARE FOR LAMERS AND NOOBS!

Thank you for creating your nice, easy to use software but saying things like that is totally uncalled for.

I am not a nOOb by any measure. Obviously I don't have the software authoring skills you have but I am very familiar with video/audio encoding and digital video authoring.

K-lite mega codec pack contains almost everything I need and instead of going through the trouble of updating those codecs individually all the time (which I simply don't have time for). It is much easier for me to grab the latest K-lite mega codec pack, as I know it contains all the latest updates.

I also love the "update" feature in MeGUI, that scans all the codecs/filters in the tools folder automatically. I suppose this is a nOOb function too?

Honestly, those sort of comments make me not want to use your software at all. As a matter of fact, I found RipBot264 too limited in it's advanced encoding options. I was only interested in using it for testing purposes and curiosity, just in case I find someone that needs an easy to use h264 encoding application then I can refer them to this software. I prefer to use MeGUI for h264 encoding. I would say that RipBot264 is created for nOObs too.

open *.m2ts in MPC. Simple

Isn't that the same advice I gave?

[~bT~]

^ Ryu77, i don't think he meant to attack you or anyone on here. just some misunderstanding/wrong choice of words..

[Ajax_Undone]

LOL

Yeah but atak is right codec packs are crap and should not under any circumstance be used...

[Ryu77]

LOL

Yeah but atak is right codec packs are crap and should not under any circumstance be used...

Yes, that is a valid statement. It wasn't his intention that I felt was inappropriate. It was the way he said it which wasn't necessary.

I agree that most codec packs are rubbish. However, I have found K-lite to be very good and I have never experienced any codec conflicts. I find it much less time consuming to get my required codecs through K-lite.

Can I ask, why do you say K-lite mega codec pack is crap? What exactly gives it that status? If I can see a valid reason then I certainly will start to acquire my codecs individually. :)

[~bT~]

@ Atak

maybe a lil post to let us know there is an update for people who have subscribed to this thread. cheers!

UPDATE: still no audio in Blu-ray format with the same sample from previous post :( but good news is that the audio is actually being encoded correctly this time, its just not getting muxed.

[arrarro]

DO NOT INSTALL THIS SHIT!!!!! CODEC PACKS ARE FOR LAMERS AND NOOBS!


open *.m2ts in MPC. Simple!

Atak I think your software is simply amazing but unfortunately I use K-Lite mega codec pack, too. Can you explain how to install and update all the codecs we need without using any codec pack? I am not a noob but maybe a little lamer on this matter ;)
:thanks:

[~bT~]

^ install FFDShow.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Atak I think your software is simply amazing but unfortunately I use K-Lite mega codec pack, too. Can you explain how to install and update all the codecs we need without using any codec pack? I am not a noob but maybe a little lamer on this matter

K-Lite codec packs and similar are causing havok in system. Look in screenshot. There is everything what is required.

UPDATE: still no audio in Blu-ray format with the same sample from previous post but good news is that the audio is actually being encoded correctly this time, its just not getting muxed.

TSMuxer does not recognize AC3?!?!?!? (stereo) I will have to ask Roman for help.

[Ajax_Undone]

I agree that most codec packs are rubbish.

All Codec packs are rubbish there isn't one been produced yet that holds any validity for use in encoding circumstances...

FFD should be the only *UPDATED* codec bundle used... and that can be installed from my installer for ripbot and autoMKV... www.stage-x.org here you can find the download links... Enjoy...

If you wish to update the ffdshow codecs at anytime just go here http://ffdshow.info/ and download the clsid latest nightly build... (ie the latest build will have the highest build number in clsid genaric builds)...

*Edit Ok now you can get the latest installer from my site...

[Atak_Snajpera]

@~bT~
Replace
Audiorate(audio)<44100?ResampleAudio(audio,48000):audio
with this
audio=ResampleAudio(audio,48000)

TSMuxer does not like AC3 encoded at 44100 Hz

[survivant001]

@Atak_Snajpera

is it possible to split the ouputed 264/ac3 files by 4 gigs max ?

the reason is this : I have a external HD that I want to use to transport the movie to the PS3.. but it's FAT32 (no choice, the PS3 doesn't read NTFS).. If I choose 1DVD as output.. it doesn't fit on the HD (limit 4 gigs)

tsmuxer doesn't have the support to split files yet.

[~bT~]

^ testing now..

UPDATE: same problem..

[Ryu77]

I still don't see anything to warrant that the K-lite codec pack is rubbish except very opinionated ideas.

I have been using K-lite for about 6 years now and I have encoded to many formats including mpeg2, mpeg4 sp/asp (h263), AVC/h264, DTS, ac3, aac, mp3... etc. etc. SD/HD, upside down, flip it and reverse it... LOL! Never have I once experienced any problems or conflicts with my encoding applications.

I am not claiming to be an expert as there are obviously a lot of people here that are quite switched on. However, I still have enough experience to validate my opinion here.

I still can not understand why K-lite is considered crap. You can easily check or uncheck any codec configurations you like. There is also a full direct show control panel that allows you to select which codecs are enabled or disabled. So if any problems occur you can easily rectify this through some tweaking of these controls. The codecs installed are generally vfw or acm, so if you wish to use command line codecs like RipBot264 does then of course K-lite has no effect on that whatsoever.

I am completely ready to listen and even accept your opinion. All that I ask for is some reasoning behind these statements. Would that be possible please? :)