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brogan
8th February 2009, 18:15
I did notice the size difference w/the files coming in under the size a little. I also wish you could see the resolution of the files like you could in the previous versions but I do love all the additions that have been made to this awesome app, thanks Atak for all your hard work!
I have a question: if you want to keep TrueHD or DTS-HD MA for the audio track, are you able to? Will it be downsized to DD & DTS? I've never tried it but there were a few Blu-ray discs that I wanted to resize to a BD25 from a BD50 but keep the audio...thanks for your time

nwg
8th February 2009, 19:38
I have a question: if you want to keep TrueHD or DTS-HD MA for the audio track, are you able to? Will it be downsized to DD & DTS? I've never tried it but there were a few Blu-ray discs that I wanted to resize to a BD25 from a BD50 but keep the audio...thanks for your time

I had the same thought. It will be turned into DD and DTS. The only way is to reduce the total size by the size of the HD audio and mux for a second time.

brogan
8th February 2009, 19:57
I was thinking something along those lines...if the DTS HD MA track is say, 3 GB, set for like 19, 20000 MB in RipBot & convert it...Then once its done, demux the DTS track & remux the DTS HD MA back in (you would've had to demux the DTS HD MA track 1st in TSMuxeR to have a copy of it) I think that TSMuxeR will work w/the HD version of DTS but there is a bug that will downgrade TrueHD to DD...I could be wrong but I think that's what happens...does anyone know for sure? If this app ever supports TrueHD & DTS HD MA, I will have to go back & redo a couple dozen movies I've already done...but I would be happy to do it :)
If anyone has any suggestions for getting the HD audio on a BD25, please let me know...thanks for your help...

Atak_Snajpera
8th February 2009, 21:54
2nd!
I can live with 3% undersize.
But I wanted to show, that there is an undersize issue.
show me log

Wishbringer
8th February 2009, 22:13
show me log

Sorry, deleted.
Encodes looked fine, so I cleared all unneccessary files. Found difference when burned them onto DVD day later.

Will show logs of next encode, maybe tomorrow evening.

jtheripper
8th February 2009, 22:21
I had the same thought. It will be turned into DD and DTS. The only way is to reduce the total size by the size of the HD audio and mux for a second time.

It would be great and make for the perfect program if Atak put copy stream for HD audio. Although I am not a programming expert it seems to me to copy stream DTS-HD and pcm audio would be as easy as copy stream of dts and dd as tsmuxer handles both of those formats well. For dolby truhd I suppose that he could have the option of converting to pcm, dd or dts as tsmuxer ruins dolby truhd. The only problem I could see is that someone might pick copy stream a hd audio for a BD5 or BD9

Atak_Snajpera
8th February 2009, 22:28
The only problem I could see is that someone might pick copy stream a hd audio for a BD5 or BD9
Exactly! And then I would have to waste my time for obvious questions like "Why video quality is SO ugly???"

jtheripper
8th February 2009, 22:34
Exactly! And then I would have to waste my time for obvious questions like "Why video quality is SO ugly???"

lol :p well just ignore those people if they cant figure that out. ASctually on a BD9 the video might look good since some DTS-Hd and pcm audio is like 3GB still leaving about 5GB for video

Atak_Snajpera
8th February 2009, 22:38
5GB for 2h+ 1080p movie? Don't expect miracles. All fine details will be washed out. If you loose fine details so what's the point of having 1080p video?

brogan
8th February 2009, 22:39
On a BD5/BD9, it would definitely make the video suffer a bit (I would think) but on a BD25 it would be awesome...granted, I don't have a clue as to how much work it would take to implement this option but I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated by many users...Atak, how much of a pain do you think it would be to include an option for untouched TrueHD/DTS-HD MA? Thanks for everything, as always!

Atak_Snajpera
8th February 2009, 22:44
Atak, how much of a pain do you think it would be to include an option for untouched TrueHD/DTS-HD MA? Thanks for everything, as always!
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that TrueHD support is broken in TSmuxer. I will think about DTS-HD MA.

brogan
8th February 2009, 23:26
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that TrueHD support is broken in TSmuxer. I will think about DTS-HD MA.



I believe you are correct...someone posted a workaround how to get TrueHD using TSmuxer, but they used an older version (v.019)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144847

I appreciate you considering DTS-HD MA support, that would be awesome...

Knocks
9th February 2009, 02:38
Hello! Great software. I would like to see the following features:

1) Automatic loading of subtitles from MKV files. Having to extract subtitles just to load them in RipBot264 is redundant
2) Being able to save your default resizing and subtitle options (burn in or not), instead of having to select them for every file

Thank you!

brogan
9th February 2009, 04:59
Atak,

Would it be possible to add back the ability to see the resolution of the files added? When I'm loading up a few movies, I forget which ones are 720p & which are 1080p/i sometimes...thanks again...

dchao
9th February 2009, 05:49
RipBot264: 1.13, WinXP SP3

I can also confirm the following bugs:

1) StoreTempFilesin=AUTO has stopped working, now must specify manually

2) VC-1 was turned off by the latest ffdshow installer, causing the "codec not found" message from RipBot264 (when decoding HD-DVD). Can RipBot264 turn it back on automatically? I think a lot of people aren't aware of the switch buried deep inside the video configuration page.

3) Finally, RipBot stopped after encoding audio, manually executing the videopass1 script I got:
"unknown option -- nal-hrd"

kenrippy
9th February 2009, 20:40
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that TrueHD support is broken in TSmuxer. I will think about DTS-HD MA.

There is an app that works great with TrueHD, it's called Ts4Np and it's based off of TsRemux.

Here are a couple links for Ts4Np to get you started:
Direct link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AMMQLUS7

http://www.hdd-player.de/syabas/showthread.php?tid=2285

I hope you can get TrueHD & DTS MA to work with ripbot, it would be the best improvement for us HD lovers. Although, I'm not sure if the MKV container even supports these new audio formats yet, do they?

juGGaKNot
9th February 2009, 20:56
RipBot264: 1.13, WinXP SP3

I can also confirm the following bugs:

1) StoreTempFilesin=AUTO has stopped working, now must specify manually

2) VC-1 was turned off by the latest ffdshow installer, causing the "codec not found" message from RipBot264 (when decoding HD-DVD). Can RipBot264 turn it back on automatically? I think a lot of people aren't aware of the switch buried deep inside the video configuration page.

3) Finally, RipBot stopped after encoding audio, manually executing the videopass1 script I got:
"unknown option -- nal-hrd"

Yes, also "unknown option -- nal-hrd", you have my log on a page.

primerump
9th February 2009, 23:12
Installed 1.13 and showed tools not installed, so i downloaded
avisynth, ffdshow and haali..

install all three, rebooted, ran ripbot again and it
says haali not installed.. it's there in the program files section..

any clues ?? this is a virgin machine, no other codecs installed yet..

Wishbringer
9th February 2009, 23:43
it
says haali not installed.. it's there in the program files section..
any clues ??

Where did you download it? It is version from jan 11 2009?

Atak_Snajpera
9th February 2009, 23:46
patience people. New fixed version will be available tomorrow.

brogan
10th February 2009, 05:21
There is an app that works great with TrueHD, it's called Ts4Np and it's based off of TsRemux.

Here are a couple links for Ts4Np to get you started:
Direct link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AMMQLUS7

http://www.hdd-player.de/syabas/showthread.php?tid=2285

I hope you can get TrueHD & DTS MA to work with ripbot, it would be the best improvement for us HD lovers. Although, I'm not sure if the MKV container even supports these new audio formats yet, do they?


When you say works great w/TrueHD, what do you mean exactly? Have you been able to successfully burn a BD5, BD9 or BD25 w/TrueHD on it? Or been able to created a BD structure to play through PowerDVD or some other software player? I'm personally trying to get a TrueHD track on a BD25 & play it on a standalone player...Just wanted some confirmation as to how this particular app works...I know it's supposed to be the new version of TSRemux but that's about all I know about it...thanks...

papaTRIX
10th February 2009, 18:14
atak > love the app! simple + clean ui - awesome work.

feature request:
do u think that it would be possible to enable CUDA w/ RipBot264, for those folks w/ NVIDIA graphics cards? i have no idea how difficult that would be to accomplish but from what i read it would lower encoding times significantly.
- NVIDIA CUDA (http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_what_is.html)
- Tom's Hardware CUDA intro (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-cuda-gpu,1954.html)

thanks

Atak_Snajpera
10th February 2009, 18:19
do u think that it would be possible to enable CUDA w/ RipBot264, for those folks w/ NVIDIA graphics cards? i have no idea how difficult that would be to accomplish but from what i read it would lower encoding times significantly.
forget about x264 running on GPU. it was discussed many times on this forum. BTW I'm just a guy who made GUI (RipBot264) not encoder (x264).

Blackwalker
10th February 2009, 18:23
Waiting for "good news" =)

Atak_Snajpera
10th February 2009, 18:27
Waiting for "good dinner" :) patience...

whats85
10th February 2009, 19:04
You state that k-lite codec pack should be uninstalled so I did. But now my ripped dvd's wont play audio anymore. What codec do you suggest?

Ajax_Undone
10th February 2009, 19:11
ffdshow That is all you will ever need.

http://ffdshow.info

Select all audio/video formats during install.

whats85
10th February 2009, 19:21
ffdshow That is all you will ever need.

http://ffdshow.info

Select all audio/video formats during install.

I have that installled the latest version: ffdshow_rev2666_20090208_clsid

But still with mediaplayer Video but no audio. With mediaplayer classic no video but only audio. ffdshow icons wont show up in systemtray.

poisondeathray
10th February 2009, 19:38
I have that installled the latest version: ffdshow_rev2666_20090208_clsid

But still with mediaplayer Video but no audio. With mediaplayer classic no video but only audio. ffdshow icons wont show up in systemtray.

haali media splitter installed ?

whats85
10th February 2009, 19:41
haali media splitter installed ?

Yes, Ripbot works perfect with software check at startup. Everything is correctly installed. With K-lite codec installed i had video and audio with mediaplayer classic. Only no subtitles.

whats85
10th February 2009, 20:43
Yes, Ripbot works perfect with software check at startup. Everything is correctly installed. With K-lite codec installed i had video and audio with mediaplayer classic. Only no subtitles.

Fixed the problem by installing Nero 8 with Showtime. Will this have an effect on RipBot?

Ajax_Undone
10th February 2009, 23:11
Installer set has been Updated.

The recent changes to the installer are so you can keep up to date on the latest builds of FFDShow Haali and AVISynth...

~DarC

papaTRIX
10th February 2009, 23:35
demuxing, encoding, remuxing times:
just curious to find out how long it takes others who use RipBot264. my rig: vista 64-bit, intel i7 920, 12GB ram;
-> demux =~ 20min
-> video/audio encoding =~ 1.5hrs @ 20fps to 6.5hrs @ 8.6fps
-> remux =~ 20min
slow, average, good? i know its gonna be diff for just about everyone depending on their rigs and apps loaded. just curious.

atak > understood, sorry i missed/didnt search for the cuda discussion.

nwg
11th February 2009, 00:39
demuxing, encoding, remuxing times:
just curious to find out how long it takes others who use RipBot264. my rig: vista 64-bit, intel i7 920, 12GB ram;
-> demux =~ 20min
-> video/audio encoding =~ 1.5hrs @ 20fps to 6.5hrs @ 8.6fps
-> remux =~ 20min
slow, average, good? i know its gonna be diff for just about everyone depending on their rigs and apps loaded. just curious.

atak > understood, sorry i missed/didnt search for the cuda discussion.

It is the x264 taking so long not ripbot.

Demux up to 40 minutes.

4.6fps pass 1 and 2fps pass 2 at 720p. At 1080p, it takes not much more than 1fps and a very long time.

Remux is about 15 minutes.

Knocks
11th February 2009, 00:52
Contrary to release notes, automatic SSA subtitle loading from MKV wasn't fixed in 1.13.0. Did it get fixed in 1.13.1?

prettyboy85712
11th February 2009, 01:00
Too many variables to make a comparison.

kenrippy
11th February 2009, 06:54
When you say works great w/TrueHD, what do you mean exactly? Have you been able to successfully burn a BD5, BD9 or BD25 w/TrueHD on it? Or been able to created a BD structure to play through PowerDVD or some other software player? I'm personally trying to get a TrueHD track on a BD25 & play it on a standalone player...Just wanted some confirmation as to how this particular app works...I know it's supposed to be the new version of TSRemux but that's about all I know about it...thanks...

What I mean is that Ts4Np will output either in .ts, .m2ts, or BD structure, just like TsRemux does. But this app will actually output a playable TrueHD track, unlike TsMuxer & TsRemux. I don't burn the files, I play them on a Popcorn Hour A110. I don't see why the BD output wouldn't be playable from a BD25 disc on a stand alone BD player. I don't have a burner or stand alone player to test it.

kenrippy
11th February 2009, 06:57
Thanks Atak_Snajpera for the new version (1.13.1) - hopefully all is working good.
Any feedback from the masses on this one yet???

edit: quick question;
Is it possible to change the font used in the GUI, if so how? I find it hard to see compared to the previous versions. thanks

Wishbringer
11th February 2009, 13:38
How are subtitles from bluray handled?
Will they be muxed automatically?
Or do I have to select them manually after demuxing is finished?

nwg
11th February 2009, 13:39
What I mean is that Ts4Np will output either in .ts, .m2ts, or BD structure, just like TsRemux does. But this app will actually output a playable TrueHD track, unlike TsMuxer & TsRemux. I don't burn the files, I play them on a Popcorn Hour A110. I don't see why the BD output wouldn't be playable from a BD25 disc on a stand alone BD player. I don't have a burner or stand alone player to test it.

Excuse the OT, but does Ts4NP handle DTS HD formats ok? I ahve always used TsRemux/Ts4NP for TrueHD and TsMuxer for DTS HD. I heard DTS HD was broken in TsRemux and I assumed it would be the same for Ts4NP as well.

I am trying the latest Ripbot and it is working great just as before.

nwg
11th February 2009, 13:41
How are subtitles from bluray handled?
Will they be muxed automatically?
Or do I have to select them manually after demuxing is finished?

You have to add the sup files in after the BD is finished demuxing. Click on add subtitles and select the sup file.

prettyboy85712
11th February 2009, 13:45
Is there a work around for the sup 1080P limitation? I'd like to try re-encoding at 720P.

nwg
11th February 2009, 14:02
Is there a work around for the sup 1080P limitation? I'd like to try re-encoding at 720P.

I haven't done it through ripbot but I have used tsmuxer (before version 1.13) to manually mux a 1080p sup with a 720p video and it looks fine.

prettyboy85712
11th February 2009, 14:38
I haven't done it through ripbot but I have used tsmuxer (before version 1.13) to manually mux a 1080p sup with a 720p video and it looks fine.

Thanks. I went ahead and started a BD encode with Ripbot at 720P just out of curiosity. I normally encode 2-pass to DVD5, but at 1080P it's a bit of a stretch.

xaero
11th February 2009, 14:38
Feature Request?

1. audio encoding lower than 64k, like 32kpbs for example.
reason: i re-encode podcasts (epicfu and such) for my nokia, its not like i care alot about the super duper crisp audio quality coming from the built-in speaker or the crappy default earphones that came along with my phone...

2. 1 pass target bitrate encoding.
reason: usually i expect somewhere from 90~150kbps video bitrate when using CQ26, but still get 200+kbps for some AVI files. 1p quick and dirty target bitrate might do the trick...

is it possible?

Atak_Snajpera
11th February 2009, 15:17
1. No
2. No

prettyboy85712
11th February 2009, 16:14
I"m using Vista 64 and have a i7 920 processor. Is there any benefit to switch from ffdshow mt to ffdshow 64 with Ripbot264?

Atak_Snajpera
11th February 2009, 16:17
MT is faster than any ffdshow x64!

GZZ
11th February 2009, 17:09
Is it just me or those the x264 64bit encoder output 25 fps ?

I have a log window saying:


c:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1>"d:\RipBot264v1.13.0\tools\avs2yuv\pipebuf.exe" "d:\R
ipBot264v1.13.0\tools\avs2yuv\avs2yuv.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs"
-raw - : "D:\x264\x264.1101M.x64.exe" --pass 1 --bitrate 11514 --stats "C:\temp
\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --sar 1:1 --level 4.0 --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-
maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weight
b --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threa
ds auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --frames 128119 --partitio
ns none --subme 3 --me dia --output "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" - 1920x108
0 : 4
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 PHADD SSE4.1 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.0
C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs: 1920x1080, 10000000/417083 fps, 128119 frames
[0.1%] 80/128119 frames, 2.94 fps, 11249.78 kb/s, eta 12:04:46


As you can see the detected input framerate is: 10000000/417083 = 23,976043137696813344106568716538

But the output framerate on my video.264 is 25.000 fps (I ran it in DGavcDec) ?

nurbs
11th February 2009, 17:48
If you feed raw yuv to x264 IIRC framerate must be specified with the --fps parameter. Either a bug or Atak just forgot.