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Ajax_Undone
3rd August 2009, 17:57
Um its always best to use the latest ffdshow tryouts from the devs home http://ffdshow.info The reason is because it will generally work better..
The Revision number is the last one that was checked out as working by the Dev of ripbot264... Its best to use the most up to date releases to keep from having issues...
This (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/SVN%20builds%20by%20albain/icl10%20builds/ffdshow_rev3052_20090803_dbt.exe/download) is the latest build to come from the stack..
colinhunt
3rd August 2009, 18:16
However, and I don't want to dissuade you from x64, but W7 x64 should work properly with Ripbot
Thank you Damian. I think it might be wisest to do a multiboot with Windows XP 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit. If I run into any problems with RipBot & BD-RB on Win7, it would be pretty easy to switch over to XP 32-bit.
dbone1026
3rd August 2009, 18:25
Thank you Damian. I think it might be wisest to do a multiboot with Windows XP 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit. If I run into any problems with RipBot & BD-RB on Win7, it would be pretty easy to switch over to XP 32-bit.
Get the W7 RC x64 while you can (I think you can still download and get a key through mid August). This will be a good test before you actually shell out money. Of course you could also try W7 RC x32.
mackworth
4th August 2009, 13:11
Excellent tool! One question: ripbot264 complaints that I don't have ffdshow rev xxxx installed, but since I am using ffdsdshow tryouts instead, I just disabled the warning in the ini and carried on. Will this have any complications?
I am very reluctant about installing the outdated ffdshow on top of the newer ffdshow tryouts.
Its not complaining because you don't have ffdshow, its complaining because your copy of ffdshow tryouts is too old. Update the tryouts version and it won't complain.
Shuichiro
4th August 2009, 23:24
Thank you so much for the update of this great applic!
I just did a quick test and found out that resizing is now set to x534 (720p) on movies with 2,40:1 aspect ratio (as mentioned in the changelog for custom resizing). When I use custom without locking it to that ratio I cannot change it to the x534. Only 532 or 536 is available.
What resizing values do you suggest for a 2,40:1 movie?
Atak_Snajpera
5th August 2009, 00:07
....x534 because it is closer to original aspect ratio.
1280/534 = ~2.397 -> 2.40 - 2.397 = 0.003
1280/532 = ~2.406 -> 2.40 - 2.406 = -0.006
If you want correct values always use locked aspect ratio instead of unlocked.
Shuichiro
5th August 2009, 00:09
Thank you for the quick answer. I thought it was because of that reason but was getting unsure becuz of the different setting options for the two custom settings.
blinx23
5th August 2009, 06:29
Not sure what happened, but after a recent hardware upgrade I lost my ability to select xxxx Stream Copy xxxx for audio-- I figured it was worth reinstalling avisynth, ffdshow, and haali, but that didn't seem to have any effect - still no stream copy in the drop down menu. Here are logs from my most recent try. This one's dts-ma, but the same thing happens on ones with truehd.
from video - log
1: Chapters, 13 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: VC-1, 480p24 /1.001 (3:2)
4: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz, dialnorm: -4dB
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -4dB)
5: AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: DTS Express, English, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 192kbps, 48khz
7: Subtitle (PGS), English
8: Subtitle (PGS), French
9: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
10: Subtitle (PGS), French
11: Subtitle (PGS), English
12: Subtitle (PGS), French
[a04] The ArcSoft and Sonic decoders don't seem to work, will use libav instead.
[a04] The libav DTS decoder doesn't decode the full DTS-HD information. <WARNING>
Creating file "D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Extracting DTS core...
[a04] Removing DTS dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a04] Remapping channels...
[a04] Reducing depth from 64 to 16 bits...
[a04] Writing WAV...
[a04] Creating file "D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.dtsma.wav"...
[a04] Clipping detected, a 2nd pass will be necessary. <WARNING>
[a04] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 64 bits.
[a04] The processed audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits.
[a04] Caution: The WAV file is bigger than 4GB. <WARNING>
[a04] Some WAV readers might not be able to handle this file correctly. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 7ms at playtime 0:00:04. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 6ms at playtime 0:06:11. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 10ms at playtime 0:21:15. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 9ms at playtime 0:24:27. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 8ms at playtime 0:48:17. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 9ms at playtime 0:52:57. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 9ms at playtime 0:55:00. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 9ms at playtime 1:25:35. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 10ms at playtime 1:27:40. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 8ms at playtime 1:58:34. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 6ms at playtime 2:20:44. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 6ms at playtime 2:23:33. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 7ms at playtime 2:36:08. <WARNING>
[a04] Audio overlaps for 5ms at playtime 2:43:03. <WARNING>
[a04] The libav DTS decoder doesn't decode the full DTS-HD information. <WARNING>
[a04] Starting 2nd pass...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Extracting DTS core...
[a04] Removing DTS dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a04] Remapping channels...
[a04] Reducing depth from 64 to 16 bits...
[a04] Writing WAV...
[a04] Realizing RAW/PCM gaps...
[a04] Creating file "D:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.dtsma.wav"...
[a04] The processed audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits.
[a04] Caution: The WAV file is bigger than 4GB. <WARNING>
[a04] Some WAV readers might not be able to handle this file correctly. <WARNING>
Added fps value to MKV header.
Video track 2 contains 270490 frames.
Video track 3 contains 270490 frames.
eac3to processing took 53 minutes, 47 seconds.
Done.
Blackwalker
5th August 2009, 19:57
Thanks for the update Atak,
but maybe i miss something.....where is the "Blu-ray" option as Output????????????
(Blu-ray output with structure)
i see only mp4, mkv and avchd...
PS:
- i dont understand....yesterday i make a blu-ray disk using the version 1.14.2 or 1.14.1, dont remember which one,
but i had blu-ray output as option (maybe i'm going crazy!!), or this have something to do with the ffdshow or Avisynth
or MatroskaSplitter or ....what??
- if its only avaliable the "avchd" as output i think not all blu-ray player will play the avchd format (i think)
someone PLZ can give me the light!!!!!!!!! :(
i'm going crazy now!!!!
thx!
cgp-2k9
6th August 2009, 08:44
@Atak_Snajpera: I just wanted to say thank you for this great application, been using since I've discovered it a while back and I'm talking about second or third of your builds, can't remember. Keep up the good work and thanks for the updates.
@Blackwalker: No, you are not going crazy, Atak_Snajpera has changed the name option from Blu-ray to avchd a couple of builds ago, if memory serves me right. You will still get the Blu-ray structure if you use this option. Nothing has changed, only the name is changed.
Blackwalker
6th August 2009, 10:31
only the name is changed? you mean the output have always a "blu-ray" structure?
cause the output structure of a real avchd is different and not all blu-ray player stand alone support it!!!
Atak_Snajpera
6th August 2009, 20:46
only the name is changed? you mean the output have always a "blu-ray" structure?
cause the output structure of a real avchd is different and not all blu-ray player stand alone support it!!!
I changed name because old 'blu-ray' was in fact avchd. I just replaced one bitmap...:)
Blackwalker
6th August 2009, 22:35
I changed name because old 'blu-ray' was in fact avchd. I just replaced one bitmap...:)
thx for the answer.
but now i have to think that all my movie cannot work on all
stand alone blu-ray?
because, if you say "old 'blu-ray' was in fact avchd", this mean
that the struture is/was an "avchd struture" and not a real "blu-ray struture"....
this is correct? :eek:
duramaximus
6th August 2009, 23:40
I have noticed that my player will not play the new structure.
I just use tsMuxeR and convert to Blu-ray and it plays just fine.
I have a sony bdp350.
prettyboy85712
7th August 2009, 01:06
I have noticed that my player will not play the new structure.
I just use tsMuxeR and convert to Blu-ray and it plays just fine.
I have a sony bdp350.
I just created a new AVCHD disk from a Blu-ray rip with 14.3 and it plays fine in my BDPS1. Did you try going back to 14.2.?
duramaximus
7th August 2009, 01:50
I just created a new AVCHD disk from a Blu-ray rip with 14.3 and it plays fine in my BDPS1. Did you try going back to 14.2.?
I have never went back to try the previous versions.
Its pretty quick to use tsMuxeR so its no big deal to me.
Blackwalker
7th August 2009, 04:58
i think there is nothing to laught at!!! when you say:
I changed name because old 'blu-ray' was in fact avchd. I just replaced one bitmap...:)
Atak, did you say in the first post or in this thread, somewhere, that the output is a "avchd output" and not a "blu-ray" output?
so i waste all my blank blu-ray? :angry:
illestdomer2005
7th August 2009, 05:21
i think there is nothing to laught at!!! when you say:
Atak, did you say in the first post or in this thread, somewhere, that the output is a "avchd output" and not a "blu-ray" output?
so i waste all my blank blu-ray? :angry:
I'll have to confirm, but I am pretty sure the AVCHD files I've been generating play on stand-alone BD players. My gf's parents have a Panny that plays them just fine, and I have a PS3 that has no trouble...although I know it is probably more friendly than some. It appears to have an identical structure to the previous .bluray outputs from RipBot. My PS3 and other stand-alone players have always identified the discs as "AVCHD" whether the files were .bluray or .AVCHD files from RipBot.
I hope that helps, but all that matters is your machine obviously.
duramaximus
7th August 2009, 05:53
I have noticed that my player will not play the new structure.
I just use tsMuxeR and convert to Blu-ray and it plays just fine.
I have a sony bdp350.
Ooooops,
I made a mistake.
I am not sure if it was my stand alone player or PowerDVD that would not play this structure. The more I think about it, it is powerDVD that did not play it.
After all my conversions I use imgburn to build an .iso. I then mount the img and play it with powerDVD to verify the audio and subtitles.
Sorry I said my BDP-350 would not play it, my bad :o
Blackwalker
7th August 2009, 07:08
I'll have to confirm, but I am pretty sure the AVCHD files I've been generating play on stand-alone BD players. My gf's parents have a Panny that plays them just fine, and I have a PS3 that has no trouble...although I know it is probably more friendly than some. It appears to have an identical structure to the previous .bluray outputs from RipBot. My PS3 and other stand-alone players have always identified the discs as "AVCHD" whether the files were .bluray or .AVCHD files from RipBot.
I hope that helps, but all that matters is your machine obviously.
It appears to have an identical structure to the previous .bluray outputs from RipBot....what?
do you read what Atak say before?
"old 'blu-ray' was in fact avchd"
so the structure has never been a true blu-ray structure!
it was/is a AVCHD, like in the previous versions!
Atak use a PS3 (i also own a PS3, but also other blu-ray stand alone players), maybe thats why he developed this
application, for PS3.
The bad thing is that he should post this in CAPITAL letters
in the first page, in the current and in all previous
version of this program, that the output is not a "true" blu-ray
structure but a avchd structure!
bha!.....:mad:
RainyDog
7th August 2009, 08:02
Whiskey, I'm getting exactly the same problem on my Vista64 set-up. When trying to add a .264 file the new version just hangs. There seems to be plenty of HD activity as if it's actually crunching the information, but doesn't display 'Gathering Informations...' at the bottom nor does it eventually open the file (I've left it for 20 mins trying). No codecs installed except ffdshow. Funnily enough, it will open .m2v files...
I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling ffdshow, Haali and Avisynth, plus upgraded to the latest SVN 3036 ffdhow tryout but nothing there either. I even cleaned out my Ripbot cutom profiles and overwrote my .ini for a complete clean slate, but still no dice. Went back v1.14.2 and everything worked fine again...
Anything else I could try? Cheers in advance to anybody for any pointers.
Update on my situation with the new version... Still won't load raw .264 streams, but will accept them if they're pre-muxed into a .ts or .m2ts file. The previous version is fine with either so it is still strange...but at least I can use the latest version now.
Would just like to say thanks for the new Inverse Telecine option, Atak. Tested it on a few episodes of The Wire from the R1 DVD's and it works perfectly. Exactly what I needed as the previous field deinterlacing options didn't yield the right results.
Ajax_Undone
7th August 2009, 08:16
Thanks for the update Atak,
but maybe i miss something.....where is the "Blu-ray" option as Output????????????
(Blu-ray output with structure)
i see only mp4, mkv and avchd...
PS:
- i dont understand....yesterday i make a blu-ray disk using the version 1.14.2 or 1.14.1, dont remember which one,
but i had blu-ray output as option (maybe i'm going crazy!!), or this have something to do with the ffdshow or Avisynth
or MatroskaSplitter or ....what??
- if its only avaliable the "avchd" as output i think not all blu-ray player will play the avchd format (i think)
someone PLZ can give me the light!!!!!!!!! :(
i'm going crazy now!!!!
thx!
The light is that they are one and the same use AVCHD and you will be fine...:D
~DarC
Atak_Snajpera
7th August 2009, 13:07
Atak use a PS3 (i also own a PS3, but also other blu-ray stand alone players), maybe thats why he developed this
application, for PS3.
I also tested on Samsung BD-P1600 and it works without any problems. FF ,RWD all works fast and stable.
The bad thing is that he should post this in CAPITAL letters
in the first page, in the current and in all previous
version of this program, that the output is not a "true" blu-ray
structure but a avchd structure!
Blu-ray output was evolving in tsmuxer. At the beginning it was just "Blu-Ray Disc" but after months people discovered that from technical point of view structure is closer to AVCHD. Then Roman (tsmuxer authos) was convinced to create "true Blu-ray Disc structure" . However this so called true structure is even less compatible with players!
There are players which require strict AVCHD structure. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674). If you are not satisfied go to store and check which blu-ray players play files generated in RipBot264.
Still won't load raw .264 streams, but will accept them if they're pre-muxed into a .ts or .m2ts file. The previous version is fine with either so it is still strange...but at least I can use the latest version now.
Replace DGAVCDec folder from older working version.
Blackwalker
7th August 2009, 19:35
ok, thx for the clear answers Ajax and Atak! =)
duramaximus
7th August 2009, 20:18
First of all I just wanted to thank you again for a terrific program.
My goal from the start was to find a way to strip off all of the fluff and shrink down a bluray to fit on a dvd-r or a dl dvd-r.
I use these both on my stand alone player and on my HTPC's.
Your GUI, in my opionion, is the best out there and I hope you keep up the great work for a long time.
Thanks again,
Duramaximus
blinx23
8th August 2009, 05:20
Not sure what happened, but after a recent hardware upgrade I lost my ability to select xxxx Stream Copy xxxx for audio-- I figured it was worth reinstalling avisynth, ffdshow, and haali, but that didn't seem to have any effect - still no stream copy in the drop down menu. Here are logs from my most recent try. This one's dts-ma, but the same thing happens on ones with truehd.
video - log -- see post 5458 didn't wanna post the whole log here again.. any ideas atak? I know its gotta be somethin stupid, any ideas?
RainyDog
8th August 2009, 11:24
Replace DGAVCDec folder from older working version.
Thanks Atak...but just tried it and still won't open raw .264 streams.
Atak_Snajpera
8th August 2009, 22:33
@blinx23
[a04] The ArcSoft and Sonic decoders don't seem to work, will use libav instead.
[a04] The libav DTS decoder doesn't decode the full DTS-HD information. <WARNING>
First of all your ArcSoft decoder does not work. I suppose you forgot to copy checkactivate.dll to system path (c:\windows\system32 for example)
If you fix this then check FLAC option. eac3to will convert DTS-MA (lossless) to FLAC (lossless as well but better compression!). Once you have FLAC audio then Copy Stream will show up.
Thanks Atak...but just tried it and still won't open raw .264 streams.
At least it works on my machines. Windows 7 (x86/x64) , Vista x86.
mackworth
9th August 2009, 17:14
Does anyone have any experience using ripbot with a quadcore AMD Phenom 9600?
I am looking at building a cheap encoder/player for my brother who is a teacher (limited butdget).
I use a Q9300 overlocked to 3ghz and it takes me about 5-7 hours to encode a bluray at 1080p, QF of 22, audio to flac.
I am not looking to build something that can do 5-7 hours, but under 20 would be great.
Pensive
9th August 2009, 19:59
Thank you so much for your efforts, I am finding it very useful indeed.
I have a dream function which I think would be hugely useful to many people and really easy to implement for you:
The option to losslessly encapsulate the video stream into an MKV file (which it already does, behind the scenes!) the same way you can do with the audio stream, and transcode the audio format to AC3 if it is a DTS soundtrack (which it already does).
At the moment I start a transcode going then drag the .MKV and .AAC or DTS files from the temp folder before its finished, then try and manually mux them but I'm missing something as they tend to go out of sync.
I have a Samsung Media 2.0 telly which supports everything except DTS soundtracks....so this little addition would make RipBot the ONLY piece of software anyone would need...... =D Certainly me...
Thanks again, for a really great piece of software. IT makes EasyDivX (from yesteryear), Gordian Knot etc. look really clunky!:thanks::thanks::thanks:
I have now tried MakeMKV, which just crashes, hangs, reboots my pc, or interprets the ripped stream as 200 mb in size.
I laso tried manually mkvmerging....no luck yet.
I also tried ClownBD which gets me a lot closer but it wont put it into MKV for me (which my telly is uber-good at playing).
With .TS files, the telly plays the video stream but never the audio even though it understands AC3 eytc. etc.
MKV is the only way forward, and I am convinced that RipBot is the best beasty for the job.....Anyone else got any other suggestions? I'm getting a bit disheartened having failed so many times......I'm now manually MKVMerging the files from the temp folder of ClownBD......I just want to hit the buttons and go......I'll pray this 20th transcode works ok.
If not I'll just shrink them to 15gb with ripbot because the outputs from ripbot just work every time....
Atak_Snajpera
9th August 2009, 22:45
Does anyone have any experience using ripbot with a quadcore AMD Phenom 9600?
instead of AMD I would buy Intel Core2 Quad Q8200 2,33Ghz. It is a little bit more expensive but you can get even 3,2Ghz on default voltage! (if you have proper memory of course:)
mackworth
10th August 2009, 00:39
instead of AMD I would buy Intel Core2 Quad Q8200 2,33Ghz. It is a little bit more expensive but you can get even 3,2Ghz on default voltage! (if you have proper memory of course:)
Yeah, unfortunately I probably couldn't swing that for him.
The Phenom 9600 is ~90 and the Q8200 is ~160. Almost twice as much in the states.
Most of the benchmarks I find on the net for x264 are hard to compare to ripbot given the different input files most tests use compared to 1080p bluray rips.
8ternity
10th August 2009, 05:16
Hi Atak_Snajpera,
I just remark the problem of audio and video time code delay is only the same trouble (DTS audio time lench and Video time audio is unsync.
I reformat hard drive; reinstall windows genuine oem windows with sp1, make all updates, install ffdshow clsid 3453rev, 2.5.8avisynth, matroska, ripbot 1.14.2... everything updated.
Still got the same trouble with many bluray project in DTS.
THanks.
Ajax_Undone
10th August 2009, 06:23
Hey 8ternity try RipBot v1.14.3 OK
~DarC
Atak_Snajpera
10th August 2009, 07:08
he Phenom 9600 is ~90 and the Q8200 is ~160. Almost twice as much in the states.
In Poland Q8200 is only 25% more expensive than AMD Phenom Quad-Core 9650 BOX.
@8ternity
Your CPU is to slow. Period.
Hyrax
10th August 2009, 07:15
I have now tried MakeMKV...If not I'll just shrink them to 15gb with ripbot because the outputs from ripbot just work every time.
This may work:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1309860#post1309860
Pensive
10th August 2009, 12:30
This may work:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1309860#post1309860
Yeah I can get the streams out no problem; Its putting them back in to a working MKV which is problematic.
I've used the EAC3TO gui before, not tried this particular one.
I actually succeeded last night in merging an MKV which stayed in sync. The audio stream was AC3 which I know the telly understands, but it told me the video stream was the wrong type on one. Gonna play with a few 4CC's but if it doesnt work I think it spells the end of my attempts - My telly simply doesnt like some of these stream formats you find on blu-ray.
Till now I'd assumed it was just the container that was the problem. Off topic..........this discussion now belongs elsewhere. Thanks for your help though.
Interestingly, the author has tested AVCHD on a Sammy BD-P1600. My new one turns up tomorrow, I dont have a burner at the moment but AVCHD transcoding sounds like the way forward then, albeit a 15 hour slog......
Atak_Snajpera
10th August 2009, 17:21
Interestingly, the author has tested AVCHD on a Sammy BD-P1600. My new one turns up tomorrow, I dont have a burner at the moment but AVCHD transcoding sounds like the way forward then, albeit a 15 hour slog......
You don't have DVD burner?!? You can use DVD-DL as well instead of BD. Samsung 1600 is not bad but has one small problem which could be fixed by new firmware. It does not like movies encoded @24fps (movie butterfly on wheel for example). Video freezes (but sound is going) every 40 seconds for 10 seconds. 23.976 works without problems.
Pensive
10th August 2009, 19:46
Yeah I have a DVD burner; The thing is If I have to transcode it, I can play it back direct through my telly right of the portable hard disk - I wanted to lossless rip it but it wasnt to be :(
I bet I get better playback quality from the blu ray player though (with regard to post processing of artefacts and block smoothing etc.), with the same video encode.
Now that would be an interesting experiment......
mleteng
10th August 2009, 20:32
Hi.
First of all, thank you for this superb tool.
Now, i'm having trouble converting some videos. From what i have read on various posts here it could be some ffdshow trouble.
MKV files seems to have no trouble at all, but when i run a avi file with h264 or xvid codec trough ripbot, it runs past demuxing audio stream, then it just stops on "Please Wait, gathering information".
It does not move past this point, nor this it generate any error message(that i can see).
I've tried many times to reinstall ffdshow, avisynth and hali media splitter like previous posts tells us to do, also deleting the remaining files in program files, but nothing seems to work.
This problem is in both 1.13.3 and the new release 1.14.3.
Im running windows 7 64bit 7600. Clean install.
The only thing i did that may have disturbed something is to uninstall windows media player. I have reinstalled this now, but still the same trouble.
I've been searching though this thread for an answer but i just couldnt find anything that could help me.
I would really appretiate any hints that could help me locate the error.
tormento
11th August 2009, 09:49
@Atak_Snajpera
Do you mind give some support to Neuron2 incredibly good NVTools? ;)
Thanks..
Wishbringer
11th August 2009, 14:50
@Atak_Snajpera:
I have some DVD 720x576i50 sources (Pal interlaced TV-Episodes = Farscape Season 1-4)
and want to put them onto BD-R (each BD a Season of 22 Episodes)
Concept was:
- Recode with Ripbot to AVCHD with size of 1083MB per Episode
- Create Menu with multiAVCHD as AVCHD onto BD-R
After first step I found an issue: Ripbot encodes them as progressive.
AVCHD standard allows 720x576 in h264, but only interlaced (Panasonic BD35 video output went black with progressive material)
So is there a way to let Ripbot encode stream interlaced?
Atak_Snajpera
11th August 2009, 17:10
After first step I found an issue: Ripbot encodes them as progressive.
AVCHD standard allows 720x576 in h264, but only interlaced (Panasonic BD35 video output went black with progressive material)
Did you try 23.976p as well?
So is there a way to let Ripbot encode stream interlaced?
not yet.
Do you mind give some support to Neuron2 incredibly good NVTools?
no.
Wishbringer
11th August 2009, 21:38
Did you try 23.976p as well?
Yes, I tried 24p and 23.976p too.
For 720x576(480) only interlaced content is defined in AVCHD standard.
And Panny is known for strictly usage of this defs.
25p (Pal) content plays well on PS3 for example.
My workaround till now is to upscale to 120x720p25. that works (but is not what I want)
Atak_Snajpera
11th August 2009, 22:59
Wishbringer
try to just add --interlaced switch to your favourite profile and then save using different name for example Keep Interlace.
JungleBoy
11th August 2009, 23:32
BBC HD changed their encoders on 5th Aug 2009 which seems to have broken RipBot264.
Transmitted video bitrate is now 9.4Mbps (was 16Mbps) h264.
Transmitted audio bitrate is now 192Kbps (was 384Kbps) ac3.
Here's 49 seconds of TS (1440x1080i 25fps 9.4Mbps) from the Nicholas Crane's Britannia part 1.
Britannia.ts (58.87 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mmzutjwzjmw
Here's my non-working MKV from RipBot264 v1.14.3
Britannia-RipBot264.mkv (19.77 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?qdm0tzunijn
(the Britannia_new.m2ts file from tsmuxerGUI plays ok)
Here's my working MKV from meGUI v0.3.1.1053
Britannia-meGUI.mkv (19.88 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?z50z2jmnnvu
(Demux the TS using DGA (dgavcindex) to give ac3 file and create 264 file using spec below. Mux 264 and ac3 into mkv)
The spec is in both cases is:
MKV, 2 pass, video bitrate=3216Kbps, audio=no change, frame size=1280x720, de-interlace=TFF 25FPS
The RipBot264 version is a complete mess. On the meGUI version you'll see some strange square noise blobs occur at 8 seconds. You won't see these blobs in the TS file but you do see what looks like noise occasionally if you move the progress bar around. This noise never happened before they changed the encoders.
The meGUI used AVC Level 4.1 where as RipBot264 used Level 4.0 but this could be a red herring.
RipBot264 v1.14.3 is using x264_x86.exe r1195M
meGUI is using x264.exe r1206 (manually updated from www.x264.nl)
I used TS Packet Editor v0.755 Beta to create the TS file.
FFDshow tryouts is "revision 3054 Jul 31 2009".
Haali splitter v1.9.42.1
I'm using MPC-HC v1.2.908.0 media player with ffdshow to play all the files.
The capture software is TSReader.
The encoding PC is a Core 2 Duo E8200 2.66GHz with 2Gbytes of RAM running Windows XP SP2.
Here's a comparision of TS files before and after the change of the BBC HD encoders using Media Info:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg276/34blw/bbc-hd-encoder-changes.jpg
The profile is apparently unchanged.
The ReFrames has changed from 2 to 4.
The Scan Type has changed from MBAFF to Interlaced TFF.
Both video and audio bitrates have dropped.
The BBC have stated that the picture quality has improved but all I see is lower bitrates - maybe I'm missing something.
Maybe the CABAC coding has changed.
The BBC are trying to squeeze HD over DVB-T sometime at the end of 2009 so I assume this is to keep a common transmission format.
Atak_Snajpera
12th August 2009, 11:14
Here's 49 seconds of TS (1440x1080i 25fps 9.4Mbps) from the Nicholas Crane's Britannia part 1.
Britannia.ts (58.87 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mmzutjwzjmw
Despite interlaced flag this source is in fact pure progressive. So don't deinterlace! Broadcasters tend to flag everything as interlaced so always rely on your own eyes.
1) If you see comb effect all the time then source is interlaced
2) if you see comb effect from time to time then source was telecined (very common used in NTSC world for movies)
3) if you don't see any artefacts then your source must be progressive
The RipBot264 version is a complete mess. On the meGUI version you'll see some strange square noise blobs occur at 8 seconds. You won't see these blobs in the TS file but you do see what looks like noise occasionally if you move the progress bar around. This noise never happened before they changed the encoders.
When I encoded your sample it looks ok
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fdotxrwynoy/Britannia.mkv
I can only suggest to reinstall ffdshow and other necessary tools.
JungleBoy
12th August 2009, 12:17
Thanks - your results look better.
deets
12th August 2009, 17:12
Thanks - that looks much better.
the bbc output is being very picky in everything, i get the blocking in dvbviewer and then have to rebuild the graph for it to work.
thanks bbc, just when i had it all sorted out :(
JungleBoy
12th August 2009, 18:27
I re-installed AviSynth 2.5.8, FFDShow 3054, and Haali 1.9.42.1
I encoded again with RipBot264 1.14.3 with no de-interlacing.
The result is the same, garbled picture.
I encoded with meGUI with no de-interlacing.
Again the result is the same as before - noisy picture at 8 seconds but otherwise watchable.
Tried switching FFDShow H264/AVC setting from libavcodec to ffmpeg-mt, no difference, switched back to libavcodec.
If you could give us any more information how to managed to create your MKV I'd be grateful, like the exact version of FFDShow your using.
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