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scenefinale
12th November 2010, 13:36
@Atak_Snajpera
Any chance you have considered adding an option to skip encoding while still having the option to produce .mkv or .mp4?

Lighto
12th November 2010, 16:01
@zazon, not sure about the sub part. Try CQ 18 and see if the results satisfy you.
If not, I guess you are better off with setting the bit rate.

hoju3508
12th November 2010, 21:45
@zazon, take the output from Suprip into Notepad and save the file again.

soneca
12th November 2010, 22:55
And save again using the ANSI code.

pacaveli211
13th November 2010, 04:19
OK, I found suprip and loaded the .sup file. Suprip found the subtitles, but when I output them to the .srt file to be used by rip bot, it just said line 1, line 2, line 3, etc., or made some jibberish. What step did I miss when doing the output? Is there a guide somewhere?

I also tried the CQ setting for the bit rate. Personally I think it looked worse than using a variable bit rate set at 6930, which I what I was doing. I don't know if it was the film or something else and the file size was about the same size anyway. Anyone got a clue here? Thanks for any help.
if your bitrate looked better you may simply need to use a better cq setting (the lower the number, the higher the quality)
suprip does not directly convert .sup files. it is a software that learns. you will need to go through the ocr process and correct or 'define' any characters it's not able to recognize

@Atak_Snajpera
Any chance you have considered adding an option to skip encoding while still having the option to produce .mkv or .mp4?
ripbot is an encode tool, not a muxing tool. mkvmerge will take care of the .mkv. there's probably a tool to mux to mp4 as well

scenefinale
13th November 2010, 05:06
ripbot is an encode tool, not a muxing tool. mkvmerge will take care of the .mkv. there's probably a tool to mux to mp4 as well
Be that as it may, it still handles muxing like a champ... It can be used to demux the streams needed into the "Temp" folder and then used to add to mkvmerge. I think it would be simple to add this functionality, and give the users another much appreciated option.

hoju3508
13th November 2010, 08:51
Is it normal that when I used CQ=18, I get a smaller file and lower bit rate then when I do a 2-Pass targeting a BD9?

:thanks:

pacaveli211
13th November 2010, 18:03
hoju3508
every file/movie is different. constant quality doesn't mean constant bitrate, and cq doesn't indicate a target bitrate
some movies can compress a lot without losing any significant amount of quality, others cannot
i.e. whichever movie you're dealing with seems to be able to compress lower than bd9 size while still sufficing the CQ18 quality settings
so this is neither normal nor abnormal. because some movies will compress like this one, others will not

Lighto
13th November 2010, 18:26
Is it possible to replace BassAudio with NicAudio or other tools completely for the getinfo.avs?
It's just that BassAudio makes RipBot stuck at "Gathering Information" far too often.:(

fmagreed2
14th November 2010, 23:00
After re-encoding a video to play on my ipod, the audio was about 14 seconds behind the video. I batched around 20 files (a series of episodes) and all of them suffered from the same problem.

The ripbot log and media infos of one of the files are attached.

zazon
15th November 2010, 11:03
I've had that happen a few times too, but if I did a second time, the audio usually worked the second time.

I got the subtitles working using suprip and filling in the missing characters.

One other problem I've noticed is it seems when I use CQ, the audio likes to hiccup for a half a second every minute or so. This is playing the mp4 file in VLC. I'm not sure if it's my computer or the files itself. I think I've seen it too when doing the two pass to, but it seems to happen more often doing the CQ. Anyone got a theory on this one? I think I'd prefer to use the two pass, but I'm not sure how to calculate the bit rate. Thanks for any help.

Atak_Snajpera
15th November 2010, 12:16
I'm not sure if it's my computer or the files itself.
Use MPC-HC instead of VLC.

I think I'd prefer to use the two pass, but I'm not sure how to calculate the bit rate. Thanks for any help.
You are trying to invent a wheel again. Use CQ (Constant Quality) Period! x264 encoder will automatically adjust bitrate according to CRF value and video content. Lower CRF means higher quality/larger file size.

Venomouse
15th November 2010, 22:52
Howdy, I have been having issues with ripbot, at first I thought It was my rip but here's what's happening.

using dvdfab (latest) I rip the main movie to the hdd. I add the stream to rip bot etc... when i look at the preview about 45 mins into any movie the audio goes out (by at least 5 sec). I can play the ripped streams on the pc fine and there is no audio lag, I can't put in a delay etc because the first part of the movie is in sysc. This has happened to about three movies so far, eg Shrlock Holmes, Iron man 2, Gamer,

any help is appreciated

Got unlucky and posted before a small novel may have been missed :)

any ideas?

pacaveli211
15th November 2010, 23:08
are you working with DVD or Blu-Ray?
is ripbot detecting the framerate properly? do you have it set to change it?

Venomouse
15th November 2010, 23:24
blu-ray,

The frame rate is pre-populated, never needed to change it. Some movies ripped no problem, but most give me the same issues as above.

pacaveli211
16th November 2010, 06:03
I know it's auto populated. that's not where you change it.
does it show 23.976 for these movies? I think that's what they all are
are you transcoding/encoding the audio? (vs a copy if you've extracted the core or something)
are the audio tracks all the same codec? DTS HDMA or TrueHD?

Venomouse
16th November 2010, 08:01
OKies, home now I can check :) (thanks for the quick replies btw)

The frame rates is 23.976.

I haven't specifically changed any audio settings but I assume there somewhere to mess with it?

IE i pretty much open the file and then hit go :)
(so the audio is being pulled from the original pull in from ripbot)

I've uploaded a piccy of my default settings..hope that helps.

cheers
V

mmmmdonut
16th November 2010, 11:41
I've had that happen a few times too, but if I did a second time, the audio usually worked the second time.

I got the subtitles working using suprip and filling in the missing characters.



Make sure you have java loaded, go to tools\bdsup2sub folder and open the java app there. Next browse to your jobs temp folder and see if your sup files open. You will be able to read the sup files using this tool. If all is good RB264 shouldnt have any issues converting from the tool itself however you can also save your output using the bdsup2sub program and selecting the srt file.

zazon
17th November 2010, 07:08
I found smplayer, which seemed to be doing better than VLC, but now it's not showing any video. Anyone know what's going on here?

pacaveli211
17th November 2010, 19:59
-Venomouse
your attachment is still pending so I can't see it =\
as a work around you could probably just demux / remux the audio in manually. (use tsmuxer, keep core or full hd track)
this way it isn't really being modified in any way and should preserve the sync

Venomouse
17th November 2010, 20:52
ill give it a try and post results cheers.

thebasa
17th November 2010, 22:01
When I use RipBot264 with DVDs selecting the first vob file in the set, it goes straight to "Please wait...Indexing Video Stream..." instead of giving me the option to select tracks like subtitle to demux like it does with an .m2ts file. After it demuxes, if I go into selectable subtitles and try to add a .sub file from the job directory, there are no .sub files in there. Is there a way to get the .sub files out during the demux w/o having to use something else like vsrip?

RandomEngy
18th November 2010, 06:06
I can usually rip a 1080p Blu-ray in about 8 hours. I know that the Avatar Collector's Edition is 3 hours long but it's taking more than 24 hours to do the rip, with the same high profile and quality target setting.

Is there something special about that Blu-ray that's causing it to encode very slowly?

pacaveli211
18th November 2010, 06:20
you mean encode, not rip. Avatar will take longer because it's 1.78:1...i.e. it takes up all 1920x1080 pixels.
rather than having letterbox bars like most movies.
the length will also contribute...since it's probably 2x as long as the average movie.
other than those 2 the video itself might just require some extra 'attention' due to a lot of detailed and/or action scenes

RandomEngy
18th November 2010, 17:05
I meant rip. The term in general can mean any process of getting data from a disc and putting it on your computer; encoding can be part of it. Anyway my reference here was actually the standard version of the Avatar, which was only 20 minutes shorter and the same in all other respects.

My best guess at the moment is some new BD+ encryption.

kenwheeler77
18th November 2010, 17:13
My best guess at the moment is some new BD+ encryption.

Are you ripping the movie to hard drive first? You might want to do that if you think that the BD+ encryption is your bottleneck (although I doubt it). Get rid of the encryption and then try encoding it.

What are your machine specs? I'm running an Intel Quad (pre-i series) and I'm averaging 6 hours on CQ=22.

I think I have found an easy way to get True-HD and DTS-HD in the new rips though thanks to the postings of others on this forum. :) I'll do a quick write-up once I've tested all of the different ways/formats to convert to and figure out the benefits/detractions of each.

Great software Atak!!!! Thanks again!!!!

:thanks:

pacaveli211
18th November 2010, 17:21
yeah I understood you meant transferring to hdd from ROM, but the encoding is what takes so long not the 'rip' part per se
movies will probably encode faster if you rip it first and then encode it.

Adub
22nd November 2010, 07:38
Atak_Snajpera,

Just wanted to say thank you for your hard work on this program. It's simplicity helped me out yesterday when dealing with tv show that needed to be XBOX 360 compatible. Well done man! Keep up the good work!

Ookamichi
22nd November 2010, 18:26
Hey i was wondering why, when my input video gets the undetermined language in the audio section why most encodes come out out of sync?

LigH
23rd November 2010, 08:08
There may be many reasons for asynchronity, Ookamichi, but just a missing language flag should not belong to them.

How much is the difference, which direction (audio too early/late related to video), is it growing towards the end?

A usual sample: When audio from DVD VOBs is too early by several seconds, the reason for many converters is that the main movie PGC was not separated (rip in IFO/Movie mode / post-processing on HDD with PGCDemux) before converting, but the VOBs were used straight as copied from DVD.

MoMuChI
23rd November 2010, 13:36
can used ripbot with new 10bit x264 ah?

pacaveli211
23rd November 2010, 17:58
can used ripbot with new 10bit x264 ah?

I looked at that when I was swapping out my x264 recently
I checked the current one before I swapped out and it was only the 8bit. so I left it at that.

hopefully Atak can answer this cuz I'm still kinda curious as well.

Wishbringer
24th November 2010, 16:04
Where do you want play output?
So for what do you want to use it?

pacaveli211
24th November 2010, 20:01
Wishbringer If you're replying to me....I encode all my stuff to fit BD25 / BD9 for play in blu-ray players / ps3

razzmatazz
25th November 2010, 05:54
Atak, I first just want to thank you for a great program. It makes encoding videos a breeze.

Second, I was wondering if you have any plans to add an option for whether or not the first subtitle should be on by default. I know it's easy enough to switch off the subtitle if I don't want it on, it would just be nice to be able to set the flag. I understand if you feel like this would be more trouble than it's worth. I know what it's like to develop a program for your own purposes and then be pressured to add features that you'll never use yourself.

Finally, I have a technical question. I noticed that in the "edit job" window, it lists the original .m2ts file for the "video," that it lists the demuxed audio file in the temporary job folder for "audio," and that a "video.mkv" file is created in the temporary job folder. Does RipBot actually use the demuxed audio file and video.mkv for the encode? The reason I ask is that sometimes I would like to be able to delete the .m2ts file before encoding.

Kudos again for a great tool!

pacaveli211
25th November 2010, 06:51
yes it uses the demuxed files for the encode
keep in mind if your source is mkv or something other than m2ts that it doesn't automatically demux the video track

Wishbringer
25th November 2010, 17:48
Wishbringer If you're replying to me....

Nope, sorry, wasn't fast enough... was replying to:

can used ripbot with new 10bit x264 ah?

as I know, (see http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1449716#post1449716)
10bit encodes need a special player and can't be played onto bluray or even with normal pc player software.
So if that is correct, there is no need in RipBot to have 10bit x264...

That's why i (hypothetically) asked, where MoMuChI want to play 10bit encoded H264 files.

stasi
25th November 2010, 18:52
can used ripbot with new 10bit x264 ah?

I testet the x264 10bit encoder a few weeks ago. I just changed the .exe. Result: Colors of the output look strange, I guess my video player must be updated (is there a 10bit ffdshow/MPC-HC available?), and encoding is very slow, REALLY SLOW. The same profile, the same video with 8 bit encoder shows me ~18fps, the 10bit encoder runs with ~0,8fps!

Washka
26th November 2010, 05:00
I testet the x264 10bit encoder a few weeks ago. I just changed the .exe. Result: Colors of the output look strange, I guess my video player must be updated (is there a 10bit ffdshow/MPC-HC available?), and encoding is very slow, REALLY SLOW. The same profile, the same video with 8 bit encoder shows me ~18fps, the 10bit encoder runs with ~0,8fps!

There is 10 Bit in Media player classic home Cinema
put EVR custom press and right click in player than click Render settings than Presentation and there you have 10bit BUT that will WORK if your VGA Support 10bit per pixel !! Intel G3x or 4x doesn`t support 10bit per pixel. On INTEL picture is green ..... ^^
ATI support this very nice and i didn`t tested on nvidia...

edit: D3D Full screen in Output settings must be checked (ON) or 10 bit will not work.

I just checked... On INTEL works with latest drivers and picture is very nice....

Morbo
27th November 2010, 05:54
I have a noodle scratcher,...
I had been using this program for over two years(thanks!),...for re-encoding QT files from Apple for use elsewhere(ipods,etc).

For whatever reason,..after a HD failed,...re-installed everything,..OS and all,...and now when I try,..I get test.exe and avs2avi.exe errors(stopped working,etc).

Obviously have FFDSHOW,...QT (even tried QT lite),and everything I could think of has failed.It will extract a frame to start encoding but it shows garbage.

These are HD,H264 trailers..and if I toss it over to my other XP system(this one is WIN7 64bit),...they obviously work(encode) fine.

I've tried Win7DSFilterTweaker to no avail....and can not figure out why it worked before my HD crash but not now.

Granted,..it works now for everything BUT MOV files,..I can demux with YAMB,..and do it that way,..but that's an added step I didn't have to do before.

And still does not explain the garbage in the preview script.

Cheers!

FuGGeroo
30th November 2010, 08:45
Here's how I do it:
1) select the audio you want in "profile"
2) click "selectable subtitles" and add the subtitle you want & it will convert it to subtitle_1.sup
3) click done button
4) go to working folder, for me it's "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1"
5) click "job1_EncodeAudio.cmd" to convert audio. The converted audio will show up in "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\audio.ac3"
6) Final import your video, down sampled audio, and subtitle into tsMuxeR_1.10.6

Thanks!! Saved me so much TIME...

thebasa
30th November 2010, 17:05
When I use RipBot264 with DVDs selecting the first vob file in the set, it goes straight to "Please wait...Indexing Video Stream..." instead of giving me the option to select tracks like subtitle to demux like it does with an .m2ts file. After it demuxes, if I go into selectable subtitles and try to add a .sub file from the job directory, there are no .sub files in there. Is there a way to get the vob subs out during the demux w/o having to use something else to get them out?

pacaveli211
1st December 2010, 05:26
anyone deal with and blurays containing cinavia / watermarked audio yet??
anyone know a way to remove / circumvent it?

LigH
1st December 2010, 07:57
Watermarking slightly changes the frequency spectrum. Removing that would not be trivial at all.

Sonogram differences (based on Microsoft watermark2003) (http://forum.gleitz.info/showthread.php?26743-Audio-Watermarking&p=252494&viewfull=1#post252494)

Peakr
1st December 2010, 09:10
anyone deal with and blurays containing cinavia / watermarked audio yet??
anyone know a way to remove / circumvent it?

Only certain players see it. I use surcode to encode HD audio to DTS then plug it into ripbot. With this method I haven't noticed any problems streaming to my PS3.

pacaveli211
1st December 2010, 19:08
yeah I know it's pretty much fully embedded into the audio and it's not just a 'remove' thing.
I also keep HD audio though and would like to retain quality, so re-encoding with surcode doesn't really work for me.
I had considered re-encoding it to DTS-HDMA though...and seeing what happens. I'd rather find a better solution though
I've read eventually everything is supposed to have this implemented so only certain players having it may change to all players having it.
Are all players going to eventually recognize cinavia?
It's part of the AACS LA licensing terms. All players made after a certain date must detect and enforce Cinavia. If manufacturers don't detect and enforce Cinavia with the newer players then I could see their licenses being revoked.

extravirgin
2nd December 2010, 13:37
I asked Adub a couple of questions over at adubvideo.net regarding a problem or two I was having with Ripbot and he suggested I posted here for a response.

I’m trying to backup Bedknobs and Broomsticks, Robin Hood and Aristocats so my two year old doesn't get his sticky fingers on the disks. All Disney and all DVD. The AnyDVD part goes well, I can check the .vts output using Media Player Classic. However, when I put them through Ripbot the audio is badly out of sync with the video. I can check that using the preview. The video and audio duration are different in the main ‘Encoding Settings’ window. No idea why. Individual .vts files are OK but put the whole thing together and it’s about a second out. I’ve delved into ‘Properties’ and adjusted the audio delay/advance to as close a match to the video as I can but the result is still poor.

Any suggestions? Everything is up to date. Ripbot is latest version and so is AnyDVD. I can get the job done with Handbrake but prefer Ripbot.

Let me know if you require any further information.

pacaveli211
2nd December 2010, 19:02
is the audio about the same amount out of sync regardless of where you are in the video or does it seem to get progressively worse through the video?
if it gets progressively worse it's probably something with framerate / de-interlacing.
if it's the same amount throughout it may just need the proper delay added
also....for some reason multiangle stuff comes to mind. I'm not sure how ripbot would handle the movie if it has that. I'd load it into vobblanker to check for that.
but my best suggestion is to ditch the dvds and get blurays =)

8ternity
3rd December 2010, 00:00
Hi atak,

Is there possible to add a setting in the ini file to create complete AVCHD folders

Ex: YES or NO (1 or 0) that i can set to complete create AVCHD folders (BDMV and CERTIFICATE) folders.

Play Station III that we are using detect it only has data disc; if i recreate in AVCHD with tsmuxerGUI > The Disc is played to an AVCHD disc.

Also report to the LG home theater of my brother can't play AVCHD disc in his bluray reader. I need also to repack in tsmuxer and it works.

He check and he has the latest version of his firmware.

Thank You!

pacaveli211
3rd December 2010, 03:59
8ternity - it should create everything you need...if the certificate folder isn't created just create one when you burn the disc. it's just an empty folder anyways.
sometimes it's needed for devices to properly detect the format though