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CyberTron88
18th November 2008, 17:26
Just tried 1.11.3 today, seems to still have the same "slow motion" effect like in 1.11.1 and 1.11.2. The video is pretty insync with the sound, just that in this case (iron man), and the start where you have the stars and paramount wordings animation, it is not very smooth. There's no drop frames.

Here's the media info (1.11.3)

Format : Matroska
File size : 19.3 GiB
Duration : 2h 6mn
Overall bit rate : 22.0 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-11-18 11:08:57
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.4.0 ('Fumbling Towards Ecstasy') built on Oct 11 2008 20:13:15
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.0
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 5mn
Bit rate : 20.4 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 65 r1028M 83baa7f
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=crf / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=30000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 6mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Here's the media info (1.10.8) which works fine

Format : Matroska
File size : 19.2 GiB
Duration : 2h 6mn
Overall bit rate : 21.8 Mbps
Movie name : Encoded in RipBot264 v1.10.8
Encoded date : UTC 2008-11-06 21:59:40
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.3.0 ('Freak U') built on Sep 8 2008 18:32:16
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.0
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 5mn
Bit rate : 20.3 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 65 r999M cc51047
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=crf / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=30000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 6mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

hdpete
18th November 2008, 17:31
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?imrahz0z2hi

copy to profiles folder.

Thanks!

Ajax_Undone
18th November 2008, 18:11
Yes it's cheaper (although BD-R 25's are becoming cheaper now), but there's no point in having a 50" plasma and good quality HD audio home cinema system if you going to compress quality to such a low level without HD Audio.
I think RipBot264 is great, but mine, and probably other's desires of the program will change as single layer BD-R's become more affordable. I use as as a kind of DVD Shrink for Blu-Ray's.
I assume the new TViX models won't be hampered by only supporting lower bitrates, the new models will have support to bitstream out DTS-HD and TrueHD.
At the end of the day it's your software that we're all taking advantage of and it's up to you to choose the direction you take it in. I would hope that it could include single layer BD-R facilities (including keeping HD Audio) as well as higher compression for DVD's.
Last edited by hdpete; Today at 02:12.

um did you know that 192 kbps audio its hardly discernible that any audio loss... As far as video unless you are super man your not going to see anything but blur anyway cause plasma sux... Get a HD LCD....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/askjack/2005/sep/15/plasmaorlcdtv

LCD screens also have some useful advantages over plasma screens. They are thinner, lighter and more robust, which makes them much easier to move around. For those with ecological concerns, LCDs use little power, whereas plasma screens use lots. Further, an LCD should last roughly twice as long as a plasma screen, which may have a "half life" of only 30,000 to 40,000 hours. (The "half life" is when the screen has degraded to half its brightness, and you may well throw it away.)

jtheripper
18th November 2008, 18:12
I did a movie with 1.11.2 (AVCHD DVD9) and had playback problems on my panasonic BP55 as well. The interesting thing is on my LG BH200 the movie played perfectly, able to skip chapters where on the panny it would freeze on skipping chapters.

Ajax_Undone
18th November 2008, 18:34
--level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 20000 --vbv-maxrate 20000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3
--b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input
--progress --no-psnr --no-ssim


Not exactly the old 4.1 profile --vbv-bufsize 30000 needs changed as well as --vbv-maxrate 30000

microchip8
18th November 2008, 18:54
--level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 20000 --vbv-maxrate 20000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3
--b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input
--progress --no-psnr --no-ssim


Not exactly the old 4.1 profile --vbv-bufsize 30000 needs changed as well as --vbv-maxrate 30000

Why limit maxrate to 30000? Level 4.1 has a max of 50000 for baseline/main/high profiles

Atak_Snajpera
18th November 2008, 18:56
Just tried 1.11.3 today, seems to still have the same "slow motion" effect like in 1.11.1 and 1.11.2. The video is pretty insync with the sound, just that in this case (iron man), and the start where you have the stars and paramount wordings animation, it is not very smooth. There's no drop frames.
Send me encoded sample (50MB .mkv -> www.mediafire.com) which doesn't work well.

Ajax_Undone
18th November 2008, 19:17
Why limit maxrate to 30000? Level 4.1 has a max of 50000 for baseline/main/high profiles

I was just pointing out that the old profile was 30000 I wasn't suggesting that it was its max....

Fishman0919
18th November 2008, 19:24
Just tried 1.11.3 today, seems to still have the same "slow motion" effect like in 1.11.1 and 1.11.2. The video is pretty insync with the sound, just that in this case (iron man), and the start where you have the stars and paramount wordings animation, it is not very smooth. There's no drop frames.


Getting the same thing here. It for about the first 12 min of the video, it's almost like it's stubbering.... then it goes away and the video plays fine.

1.10.8 is fine and if I do the movie manually, it's fine

microchip8
18th November 2008, 19:26
I was just pointing out that the old profile was 30000 I wasn't suggesting that it was its max....

:) yes, I know. My question was as to why it was limited to 30000. Was there some problem with hardware players and the like?

Atak_Snajpera
18th November 2008, 19:32
Getting the same thing here. It for about the first 12 min of the video, it's almost like it's stubbering.... then it goes away and the video plays fine.
Send me sample !!!! (encoded .mkv)

Fishman0919
18th November 2008, 19:35
Send me sample !!!! (encoded .mkv)

I'm away right now... I can sent you one tomorrow.

Ajax_Undone
18th November 2008, 19:51
Some players have some buffer issues...

Bigmango
18th November 2008, 19:56
Getting the same thing here. It for about the first 12 min of the video, it's almost like it's stubbering.... then it goes away and the video plays fine.


I had this problem 1 week ago, I was using the system's default codec to play the video. Then I changed the playback codec to ffdshow using libavcodec (in the ffdshow video decoder configuration) and everything was fine.

billqs
18th November 2008, 20:30
I started using Ripbot recently to rip BlueRays and HDDVDs I own to Hard Drive. It was working fine until this weekend. I was trying to shrink down my copy of Sky Captain and I get the dreaded DirectShowSource: RenderFile, the filter graph manager won't talk to me (C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\getinfo.avs, line 2) error. I tried my Fantastic Four BlueRay and got the same error.

I've read enough to realize there is probably a codec conflict. Between the working RipBot and this weekend I installed Arcsoft Total Media Theater and Sonic Cinemaster. In the Arcsoft case I got TMT so I could more easily view HD files from Hard Drive and double check errors I get with PDVD. Arcsoft is also a preferred codec for eac3to.

I got Sonic Cinemaster audio decoder to use in MPC-HC per this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=892527 as it was recommended as a way to use HD-DVD and BlueRay playback within MPC. (I have had horrible luck playing back files on the HD much less on disc using MPC-HC.

The first thing I did after I got the errors was to use Ajax's installer to download the latest Ripbot 11.11.3 along with Haali Media Splitter (whichever model is included) that was included, the most recent ffdshow, and AviSynth 2.5.7. I was hoping that reinstalling these would place them higher in the merit chain so that the program would work again.

This did not work. I then used a program (DSF Filter Manager?) I have that lists all Direct Show filters and allows merits to be changed. I went in and downgraded the merits on Arcsoft and Cinemaster to slightly above "don't use".

I then tried to rerun the Sky Captain BlueRay that I had muxed with eac3to in order to only contain the streams I wanted to save. I got the same error. I don't have the RipBot log here at work, but I do have a copy of the eac3to log in case it helps:

eac3to v2.72
command line: "C:\Program Files\EAC3TO\eac3to.exe" "D:\" 1) 2: "G:\Sky Captain\Sly Captain.mkv" 3: "G:\FSHEAC\Sky Captain.ac3"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 6 audio tracks, 4 subtitle tracks, 1:46:36
1: Chapters, 17 chapters
2: MPEG2, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
4: DTS, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1536kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -4dB
5: AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
7: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
8: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
9: Subtitle (PGS), English
10: Subtitle (PGS), English
11: Subtitle (PGS), French
12: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a03] Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Creating file "G:\FSHEAC\Sky Captain.ac3"...
Added fps value to MKV header.
Video track 2 contains 153360 frames.
eac3to processing took 24 minutes, 1 second.
Done.

Is there any way to get RipBot working without having to take TMT or the Cineplayer audio decoder off my system?

CyberTron88
18th November 2008, 20:40
Send me encoded sample (50MB .mkv -> www.mediafire.com) which doesn't work well.

The files are around 19GB...can provide me instructions how do I truncate them to 50MB?

Fishman0919
18th November 2008, 20:45
Some players have some buffer issues...

It does it in VLC, MPC and standalone.

I used --vbv-bufsize 16500 --vbv-maxrate 16500. Shouldn't cause a buffering problem and doing manually doesn't produce the same studdering.

CyberTron88
18th November 2008, 21:17
I've uploaded the files to my server. This is what I did.

I use mmg.exe, select my encoded mkv files, set the split to 50M, and 2 files, and once it starts generating the 2nd file, I abort. So I should have the first 50MB. Not sure if that is good enough, but it shows the starting animation that is not that smooth.

Encoded with 1.11.3 (does not works)
http://www.netsingapore.com/ripbot/notok.mkv

Encoded with 1.10.8 (works)
http://www.netsingapore.com/ripbot/ok.mkv

Atak_Snajpera
18th November 2008, 22:01
Is there any way to get RipBot working without having to take TMT or the Cineplayer audio decoder off my system?
Make sure that under MPEG2 (ffdshow video configuration) section libavcodec is selected

DYZ
19th November 2008, 00:26
Quote:
Getting the same thing here. It for about the first 12 min of the video, it's almost like it's stubbering.... then it goes away and the video plays fine.
Send me sample !!!! (encoded .mkv)

Hey there!

I have the same problem too. BUT I saw, that this was not in each video.. Encoded "Kindom of heaven" - problem of stuckin video in the first ~15 minutes. Also encoded "Layer Cake" and there was no problem at all....

In my point of view, this problem was caused with version 1.11.0 - earlier versions didn't had that problem..

How can I send you an exemple of my video-file with the problem - when your interessted.


So far, fuckin great job you do!!!! Big probs!!!!! :thanks:

Ajax_Undone
19th November 2008, 02:17
Hey there!

I have the same problem too. BUT I saw, that this was not in each video.. Encoded "Kindom of heaven" - problem of stuckin video in the first ~15 minutes. Also encoded "Layer Cake" and there was no problem at all....

In my point of view, this problem was caused with version 1.11.0 - earlier versions didn't had that problem..

How can I send you an exemple of my video-file with the problem - when your interessted.


So far, fuckin great job you do!!!! Big probs!!!!! :thanks:

You might want to keep the swearing down to a minimum People from all walks of life use this forum for info and don't appreciate the swearing..:)

By the way. Welcome...

~bT~
19th November 2008, 02:43
Thanks!

updated profile with older settings.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=99a4e034a592923ad2db6fb9a8902bda

hdpete
19th November 2008, 07:16
um did you know that 192 kbps audio its hardly discernible that any audio loss... As far as video unless you are super man your not going to see anything but blur anyway cause plasma sux... Get a HD LCD....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/askjack/2005/sep/15/plasmaorlcdtv

I take it you've not read the reviews on the Pioneer PDP-LX5090 then? Every review going says that it is the best TV out there. I bought it recently and compared it to a Panasonic plasma and a Sony KDL-52W4500 I preferred the Sony to the Panasonic, the Panny had better contrast and blacks but couldn't match the Sony's sharpness, but the Pioneer was in a league of it's own, had the best of both!
http://whathifi.com/Review/Pioneer-PDP-LX5090/
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Pioneer-PDP-LX5090/Conclusion.htm
I used to have a Sony KDL-40W2000, it was good but not as good. I would take a new Sony LCD over any other TV than the Pioneer. Having said that, the backlight bleed is still a big issue with Sony LCD's. I accept LCD's have a longer life than plasmas, however with the latest generation of plasma's that isn't such a big issue. Your Guardian quote was 2005 - times change! TV's get better, audio get's better, hard drives get bigger and cheaper, BD-R's get cheaper, TViX streams HD Audio formats and RipBot264 will hopefully (pretty please) adjust to changing uses. We're likely to be onto the next version of HD before my Pioneer packs up, especially with the free 5 year warranty that Pioneer gave me with it!

With music, using a top of the range Onkyo TX-NR905 receiver and Monitor Audio speakers, yes you do definately notice the differance! 192kbps is nowhere near CD quality, you loose too much detail. It's a shame there were too many people like yourself that thought 192kbps mp3's were fine when SACD came out, otherwise we might have got more mainstream music being released on that format, it was (is) awesome!

HD audio formats are obviously lossless, and whereas I don't think there's as much difference with lossless movie soundtracks as with lossless music over compressed, DTS-HD Master audio smashes plain old DTS out of the water! PCM 5.1 is very good, Dolby TrueHD I've found to be not quite as good as the other HD audio formats, but I'm not using it much due to there not being any satisfactory muxing for it at the moment.

I'll bow to your superior PC skills, but I'll argue with you all day about audio quality!

Bigmango
19th November 2008, 09:02
I have now encoded a movie with version 1.11.3 for the first time and I now get the stuttering too.

I didn't have this problem with version 1.11.1 (don't know about 1.11.2 as it didn't work with x64).

I'm going back to 1.11.1 until the problem gets fixed.

Edit: ahhhhhh... but some of you have reported that v. 1.11.1 has some seeking problems with some players. I'd rather make sure my discs play everywhere in the future, so what is the latest working version, 1.10.8 ?

nwg
19th November 2008, 11:26
Hopefully I won't get the stuttering issue. Every version has worked fine for me and I rather not stop my current encode after nearly 12 hours. My Sony s350 player has neve been great with avchd. I can skip chapters although is takes a few seconds but I can't seek. It isn't a ripbot problem as it has always done that before I started using ripbot and x264. It does however play, stop and pause fine which is good enough for me.

DYZ
19th November 2008, 13:08
You might want to keep the swearing down to a minimum People from all walks of life use this forum for info and don't appreciate the swearing..:)

By the way. Welcome...


Hey!

Thanks for the welcome! And to your advise: sorry for my rakish language,but i just wanted to thank atak!! :)

DYZ
19th November 2008, 13:11
I have now encoded a movie with version 1.11.3 for the first time and I now get the stuttering too.

I didn't have this problem with version 1.11.1 (don't know about 1.11.2 as it didn't work with x64).

I'm going back to 1.11.1 until the problem gets fixed.

Edit: ahhhhhh... but some of you have reported that v. 1.11.1 has some seeking problems with some players. I'd rather make sure my discs play everywhere in the future, so what is the latest working version, 1.10.8 ?

I jumped from version 1.11.0 to 1.11.3 and the problem of the "stuttering" picture in the first ~10-15min is still there....

Version 1.11.0 has had that problem, too...

So I think version 1.10.8 was fine.. I'll try that later on an report

survivant001
19th November 2008, 14:32
@Atak_Snajpera

can you put this request into your backlog of features for the next release ?

miahallen
19th November 2008, 14:41
Atak_Snajpera,

I've been building a digital movie collection for the past 4 years. I've used many front-ends for this proccess, and all have had their shortcomings...and none have effeciently used all the proccessor power I've had availible...until I tried RipBot. I just wanted to drop a line and let you know how awesome I think your program is, and tell you thanks for creating/sharing it!
:thanks:

edit:
Sorry, this has probably been asked before, but are you planning to add GPU encoding? If so, nVidia or AMD?

survivant001
19th November 2008, 15:09
there is a bug when opening a movie .avi that containts MJPG. failed to get fourcc for mjpeg. if getinfo.avs failed using OpenDMLSource can you try with DirectShowSource ?

billqs
19th November 2008, 15:11
Make sure that under MPEG2 (ffdshow video configuration) section libavcodec is selected

Thanks! That seems to have done the trick. I won't know till the 17 hour encode I'm working on finishes but so far no crashes. All my previous encodes with RipBot have been flawless!

Thanks for the great work!

Bill

Atak_Snajpera
19th November 2008, 15:26
if getinfo.avs failed using OpenDMLSource can you try with DirectShowSource ?
I have better idea. I will enable automatically decoding in ffdshow (VFW section) for mjpg in avi

Thanks! That seems to have done the trick.
New version will enable this as well

Sorry, this has probably been asked before, but are you planning to add GPU encoding? If so, nVidia or AMD?
This app is just a GUI. I'm not responsible for x264 encoder. One more thing. Forget about encoding on GPU and invest in nice quad-core. Use search why

nwg
19th November 2008, 17:55
This app is just a GUI.

And a excellent one too. I couldn't make any sense of X264 encoding or MeGUI so yours is just want I needed.

Ajax_Undone
19th November 2008, 18:01
I take it you've not read the reviews on the Pioneer PDP-LX5090 then? Every review going says that it is the best TV out there. I bought it recently and compared it to a Panasonic plasma and a Sony KDL-52W4500 I preferred the Sony to the Panasonic, the Panny had better contrast and blacks but couldn't match the Sony's sharpness, but the Pioneer was in a league of it's own, had the best of both!
http://whathifi.com/Review/Pioneer-PDP-LX5090/
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Pioneer-PDP-LX5090/Conclusion.htm
I used to have a Sony KDL-40W2000, it was good but not as good. I would take a new Sony LCD over any other TV than the Pioneer. Having said that, the backlight bleed is still a big issue with Sony LCD's. I accept LCD's have a longer life than plasmas, however with the latest generation of plasma's that isn't such a big issue. Your Guardian quote was 2005 - times change! TV's get better, audio get's better, hard drives get bigger and cheaper, BD-R's get cheaper, TViX streams HD Audio formats and RipBot264 will hopefully (pretty please) adjust to changing uses. We're likely to be onto the next version of HD before my Pioneer packs up, especially with the free 5 year warranty that Pioneer gave me with it!

With music, using a top of the range Onkyo TX-NR905 receiver and Monitor Audio speakers, yes you do definately notice the differance! 192kbps is nowhere near CD quality, you loose too much detail. It's a shame there were too many people like yourself that thought 192kbps mp3's were fine when SACD came out, otherwise we might have got more mainstream music being released on that format, it was (is) awesome!

HD audio formats are obviously lossless, and whereas I don't think there's as much difference with lossless movie soundtracks as with lossless music over compressed, DTS-HD Master audio smashes plain old DTS out of the water! PCM 5.1 is very good, Dolby TrueHD I've found to be not quite as good as the other HD audio formats, but I'm not using it much due to there not being any satisfactory muxing for it at the moment.

I'll bow to your superior PC skills, but I'll argue with you all day about audio quality!

Is that discernible detail or is it U high frequency detail. The sound quality of 192 has a massive loss of U high Frequency audio because the average person cannot hear nor tell the difference between the two...

It is this High frequency audio that is produced at every pitch that a normal 48000hz PCM audio file from a CD doesn't even have... Only the HD Audio has it and most studios agree that it is the main part of HD audio...

hdpete
19th November 2008, 18:11
Is that discernible detail or is it U high frequency detail. The sound quality of 192 has a massive loss of U high Frequency audio because the average person cannot hear nor tell the difference between the two...

It is this High frequency audio that is produced at every pitch that a normal 48000hz PCM audio file from a CD doesn't even have... Only the HD Audio has it and most studios agree that it is the main part of HD audio...

I can tell the difference over a 320kbps mp3 compared to the same song's original wav file. As long as the equipment/cabling you're using is good enough to pick out the detail, you'll hear a difference.

SACD plays frequencies that only your dog will hear, but the whole recording sounds better, more bass and depth as well as excellent treble. You don't even have to go to SACD, JVC created XRCD which gives excellent results played on a CD player, trouble is unless you're mad on jazz or classical there's not much choice available.

I've got a Mobile Fidelity CD of Nevermind by Nirvana, it's just a CD but the recording process from the original master is improved. It sounds a lot better than the mainstream CD. If there's a difference between CD recordings of the same album, imagine what you're doing to the album with LAME, you certainly ain't making it better!

As I said in my original reply, I can't notice as bigger difference with HD audio formats as I can with lossless music over compressed music. But if you watch a blu-ray like I,Robot with the DTS-HD Master audio and compare it to the normal DTS soundtrack the difference is definately noticeable, more dynamic (much to my neighbours annoyance), it involves you in the film more.

CyberTron88
19th November 2008, 18:13
I calculated I think I need around 16 core at 3Ghz to achieve 1 to 1 (1X) playback to encoding ratio for high quality 1080p encoding. Wonder when we can achieve 2X or 4X speed without sacrificing quality and compression ratio. hmm.. wonder how much faster is the new i7 at the same clockspeed compared to the a core 2 quad?

Ajax_Undone
19th November 2008, 18:20
I can tell the difference over a 320kbps mp3 compared to the same song's original wav file. As long as the equipment/cabling you're using is good enough to pick out the detail, you'll hear a difference.

SACD plays frequencies that only your dog will hear, but the whole recording sounds better, more bass and depth as well as excellent treble. You don't even have to go to SACD, JVC created XRCD which gives excellent results played on a CD player, trouble is unless you're mad on jazz or classical there's not much choice available.

I've got a Mobile Fidelity CD of Nevermind by Nirvana, it's just a CD but the recording process from the original master is improved. It sounds a lot better than the mainstream CD. If there's a difference between CD recordings of the same album, imagine what you're doing to the album with LAME!

Yeah well what I was wondering was if you had the same type of hearing quality as my brother in law. He can hear things at about the same pitch as our dog and hates all types of audio compression cause it ""Kills the Music"" :)

hdpete
19th November 2008, 18:33
Yeah well what I was wondering was if you had the same type of hearing quality as my brother in law. He can hear things at about the same pitch as our dog and hates all types of audio compression cause it ""Kills the Music"" :)

I guess if you can't notice the difference, there's no point in taking up precious disc space with large audio files when it can be used for better video. But from a music point of view, I backed my CD collection up using lossless audio codecs a while ago, no problem now with 1tb SATA drives at £75.

I want both audio and video quality for movies so I'm using single layer BD-R's now. Just wish BD50's would hurry up and come down in price!

asarian
19th November 2008, 18:36
I use Hibernation and it works very well on Vista

Unfortunately, hibernation is kinda useless for this purpose. For instance, you can't use RipBot264 in XP, hibernate, then boot into Vista (or any other OS), as hibernation blocks the boot-menu, and basically just allows you to either delete the hibernation data and resume regular boot, or to continue from hibernation. In other words: once hibernated, you can't use your machine for anything else! And the whole point of suspending RipBot264 jobs, is precisely to go and do something else with your machine.

So, ideally, I'd let RipBit264 do its work during the night, whereas i could interrupt it for daytime, only to resume encoding again at night.

Atak_Snajpera
19th November 2008, 18:37
wonder how much faster is the new i7 at the same clockspeed compared to the a core 2 quad?
~30%....

Bigmango
19th November 2008, 18:42
When I start version 1.11.4 I get "failed to get data for 'mjpg' ".

This is on vista x64.


edit: and then when I try to add a new m2ts file I get a directshowsource error "couldn't open c:\temp\Ripbot264temp\job0\video.mkv"

... and why is it talking about an mkv file when I am trying to open an m2ts file ??

Atak_Snajpera
19th November 2008, 18:48
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2861/new1oo6.th.png (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1oo6.png)http://img128.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Does this key exist on x64? If does not exist tell me where FFDShow stores those data on x64 OS.

CyberTron88
19th November 2008, 18:54
I also dun have it on vista 32 home premium. Same error too.

I dun seem to have a default folder under the ffdshow_vfw.

Atak_Snajpera
19th November 2008, 18:55
I also dun have it on vista 32 home premium. Same error too.
Send me whole GNU registry

CyberTron88
19th November 2008, 18:55
This is what I got

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GNU\ffdshow_vfw]
"mp41"=dword:00000001
"mp42"=dword:00000001
"mp43"=dword:00000001
"flv1"=dword:00000001
"vp6f"=dword:00000001
"ffv1"=dword:00000001
"fvfw"=dword:00000001
"mjpg"=dword:00000001
"mpegAVI"=dword:00000001
"tscc"=dword:00000001
"xvid"=dword:00000000
"div3"=dword:00000000
"dx50"=dword:00000000
"mp4v"=dword:00000009
"h264"=dword:00000001

Bigmango
19th November 2008, 18:56
Everything you have in "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow_vfw" is in "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow" on my system.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow_vfw is empty.

CyberTron88
19th November 2008, 18:58
Under current user register

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow]
"OSDcurPreset"="default"
"OSDpresetFormat0"="1544 1552 1545 1541 14 31 1524 1529"
"OSDpresetName0"="default"
"OSDpresetsCount"=dword:00000001
"subTextpin"=dword:00000001
"subTextpinSSA"=dword:00000001
"fastH264"=dword:00000000
"trayIcon"=dword:00000001
"alternateUncompressed"=dword:00000000
"isBlacklist"=dword:00000001
"isWhitelist"=dword:00000000
"isCompMgr"=dword:00000001
"mpg2"=dword:00000000
"vp6"=dword:00000000
"wvc1"=dword:00000000
"rawv"=dword:00000000
"8bps"=dword:00000001
"aasc"=dword:00000001
"asv1"=dword:00000001
"avrn"=dword:00000001
"cram"=dword:00000001
"cscd"=dword:00000001
"cvid"=dword:00000001
"cyuv"=dword:00000001
"div3"=dword:00000001
"duck"=dword:00000001
"dx50"=dword:00000001
"em2v"=dword:00000005
"ffv1"=dword:00000001
"flv1"=dword:00000001
"fvfw"=dword:00000001
"h261"=dword:00000001
"h263"=dword:00000001
"h264"=dword:00000001
"hfyu"=dword:00000001
"iv32"=dword:00000001
"loco"=dword:00000001
"mjpg"=dword:00000001
"mp41"=dword:00000001
"mp42"=dword:00000001
"mp43"=dword:00000001
"mp4v"=dword:00000001
"mpegAVI"=dword:00000005
"mszh"=dword:00000001
"png1"=dword:00000001
"qpeg"=dword:00000001
"qtrle"=dword:00000001
"qtrpza"=dword:00000001
"raw_rawv"=dword:00000001
"rle"=dword:00000001
"rt21"=dword:00000001
"svq1"=dword:00000001
"svq3"=dword:00000001
"theo"=dword:00000001
"tscc"=dword:00000001
"ulti"=dword:00000001
"vcr1"=dword:00000001
"vixl"=dword:00000001
"vp3"=dword:00000001
"vp5"=dword:00000001
"vp6f"=dword:00000001
"wnv1"=dword:00000001
"xvid"=dword:00000001
"zlib"=dword:00000001
"zmbv"=dword:00000001
"lastPage"=dword:083400ad
"dlgRestorePos"=dword:00000000
"dlgPosX"=dword:0000016c
"dlgPosY"=dword:000000e7
"lvWidth0"=dword:0000012c
"showHints"=dword:00000001
"lvKeysWidth0"=dword:000000f0
"lvKeysWidth1"=dword:0000005a
"lvCodecsWidth0"=dword:0000005a
"lvCodecsWidth1"=dword:0000004c
"lvCodecsSelected"=dword:00000000
"lvCodecsWidth2"=dword:000000ca
"dlgCustColor0"=dword:00000000
"dlgCustColor1"=dword:00101010
"dlgCustColor2"=dword:00202020
"dlgCustColor3"=dword:00303030
"dlgCustColor4"=dword:00404040
"dlgCustColor5"=dword:00505050
"dlgCustColor6"=dword:00606060
"dlgCustColor7"=dword:00707070
"dlgCustColor8"=dword:00808080
"dlgCustColor9"=dword:00909090
"dlgCustColor10"=dword:00a0a0a0
"dlgCustColor11"=dword:00b0b0b0
"dlgCustColor12"=dword:00c0c0c0
"dlgCustColor13"=dword:00d0d0d0
"dlgCustColor14"=dword:00e0e0e0
"dlgCustColor15"=dword:00ffffff
"dlgDecCurrentPage"=dword:00000000
"translateMode"=dword:00000000
"lang"="en"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow\default]
"setSARinOutSample"=dword:00000002
"allowOutChange"=dword:00000002
"outChangeCompatOnly"=dword:00000001
"resizeMethod"=dword:00000009
"isSubtitles"=dword:00000000
"subIsExpand"=dword:00000000
"threadsnum"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow_audio]
"trayIcon"=dword:00000001
"ac3drc"=dword:00000001
"dtsdrc"=dword:00000001
"OSDcurPreset"="default"
"OSDpresetFormat0"="1544 1545 1559 1529"
"OSDpresetName0"="default"
"OSDpresetsCount"=dword:00000001
"isBlacklist"=dword:00000001
"isWhitelist"=dword:00000000
"isCompMgr"=dword:00000001
"ac3"=dword:00000000
"amr"=dword:00000000
"dts"=dword:00000000
"lpcm"=dword:00000000
"msadpcm"=dword:00000000
"vorbis"=dword:00000000
"aac"=dword:00000008
"gsm"=dword:00000001
"iadpcm"=dword:00000001
"imc"=dword:00000001
"law"=dword:00000001
"mace"=dword:00000001
"mp2"=dword:00000007
"mp3"=dword:00000007
"nellymoser"=dword:00000001
"otherAdpcm"=dword:00000001
"qdm2"=dword:00000001
"truespeech"=dword:00000001
"tta"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\ffdshow_audio\default]
"isvolume"=dword:00000000
"volNormalize"=dword:00000000
"ismixer"=dword:00000001
"mixerOut"=dword:00000001
"mixerNormalizeMatrix"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\Xvid]
"display_status"=dword:00000000

Bigmango
19th November 2008, 19:00
Atak, sent you the GNU reg in PM.

Atak_Snajpera
19th November 2008, 19:01
Bigmango do you use 64bit FFDShow or 32bit?

CyberTron88:
are you using Administrator Account with disabled UAC?

Bigmango
19th November 2008, 19:02
Bigmango do you use 64bit FFDShow or 32bit?


I have both installed, but ripbot always used the 32bit one (as all of the 32bit apps do).