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JPSiemer
6th June 2008, 11:28
ok, cool, one more question...

is there a way you can add like an advanced x264 settings box like Handbrake does? I would like to use a custom CQM and set a couple other options that cant be configured or input into the GUI without editing the commandline files every time... and is there a way to turn off the turbo 1st pass?

thanks!

deets
6th June 2008, 13:22
ok, cool, one more question...

is there a way you can add like an advanced x264 settings box like Handbrake does? I would like to use a custom CQM and set a couple other options that cant be configured or input into the GUI without editing the commandline files every time... and is there a way to turn off the turbo 1st pass?

thanks!

why not use megui in this case?

also, has anyone else noticed a massive speed drop in 1.9.7 im going from 200fps to about 90fps on the same source, using the same settings for PSP encodes?

JPSiemer
6th June 2008, 13:59
because I find MeGUI to be glitchy. i'm still pretty new at this so i might not be doing things right, but it seems like I can only rip 4 out of 5 DVDs successfully, and then I turn to another program... i would love to just do it all in one program and not waste a lot of time...

i'm sure it wouldn't take any time at all to add this funtionality, and it can be ignored by casual users...

JPSiemer
6th June 2008, 20:50
ok, this doesnt make any sense...

so i encoded a 2 hour movie with a bitrate of 1100 and got a filesize of 787 MB, which is completely wrong and is not 1100 kbps... so i upped the bitrate and reencoded with the same settings @ 1300 kbps and I ended up with a filesize of 787 MB again!

so what is going on? why is my bitrate being ignored?

my first pass is:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\RipBot264\tools\x264\x264.exe" "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 1 --bitrate 1281 --stats "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --level 5.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 768 --vbv-maxrate 5000 --filter 0,0 --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --direct auto --subme 2 --analyse none --me dia --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"


my 2nd is:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\RipBot264\tools\x264\x264.exe" "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.avs" --pass 2 --bitrate 1281 --stats "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\job1\job1.stats" --level 5.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 768 --vbv-maxrate 5000 --filter 0,0 --ref 5 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --b-rdo --bime --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --analyse all --8x8dct --me umh --no-fast-pskip --qpmin 18 --ratetol 4.0 --cqmfile "C:\CQM\EQM_AVC_HR.cfg" --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\video.264"

Atak_Snajpera
6th June 2008, 23:04
First of all do not modify command line generated by app, ok!?
Custom matrices are useless since we have AQ and PsyRDO (enabled by default)
For god sake why do you use --vbv-bufsize 768 --vbv-maxrate 5000?????

i would like the app to be able to tell me what I should correctly be resizing my height to and still preserving the aspect ratio...
hmmmmm..... This should be easy.......

The HD-DVD.mkv file I have when the error message pops up is only 1KB.
I was very lazy and I assumed that video stream is always on first track. In your example on first are chapters :) It's very easy to fix.

also, has anyone else noticed a massive speed drop in 1.9.7 im going from 200fps to about 90fps on the same source, using the same settings for PSP encodes?
I've increased ref frames to 3.

But I am a nice guy and uploaded a 17 sec 30MB clip with a m2ts 1080p/lpcm sample to reproduce typo:
Fixed. Without sample it would be difficult to find reason.

86m52s
720+1536 4,705,548,288 <- 983,650,437 DTS -> real avg. bitrate is 1510kbps (or 1474kbps if you divide by 1024)
1080+1536 8,555,704,320 <- 983,650,437 DTS
105m48s
720+768 4,693,395,456 <- 598,731,966 DTS -> 755kbps (737kbps)
1080+768 8,540,540,928 <- 598,731,966 DTS
96m34s
720+1536 4,694,501,376 <- 1,092,854,016 DTS -> 1509kbps (1474kbps)
1080+1536 8,554,985,472 <- 1,092,854,016 DTS
113m18s
720+1536 4,708,405,248 <- 1,282,241,564 DTS -> 1509kbps (1474kbps)
1080+1536 8,555,704,320 <- 1,282,241,564 DTS
87m36s
720+1536: 4,705,112,064 <- 991,658,464 DTS -> 1509kbps (1474kbps)
1080+1536 8,552,589,312 <- 991,658,464 DTS

As you can see bitrate in DTS is very inaccurate. This is main reason why my calculating formula is not working well. With those data I should be able to fix this for good :)

JPSiemer
7th June 2008, 00:35
well, without --vbv-bufsize 768 --vbv-maxrate 5000 playback on the Xbox running XBMC stutters like crazy. with it, it plays just fine. not sure why this setting does what it does, but it seems to be the best setting after 50 or so test encodes with various different settings.

also, i am just trying to acheive a specific video bitrate, (i'm not worried about overall bitrate / just vid bitrate)... how can I get RipBot264 to properly use the bitrate i set? it ignores it everytime and outputs the same exact filesize every time regardless of bitrate... you see, setting the proper bitrate is key to achieving stutterless playback of h.264 on XBMC -- the higher the res, the lower my bitrate, and the lower the res, the higher I can go...

8ternity
7th June 2008, 06:49
Hello Masters!!! :)

Just for an comment. I search over 5 weeks, tested all the video programs and utility for backuping my blu-ray titles on a dvd9 or dvd5 format. I have downloaded the update, 1.9.6, use an decryptor + tsmuxer to remux in m2ts just 1 language and 1 video, ripbot reconvert sucessfully my video for Blu.Ray ouput with specific size.

Everything work perfectly. Thanks for a great main programs like that. It's long, but quality is AWESOME. Im happy. Now i will can transfer an AVCHD camera output in the way.

Continous your great work. IF any question, message me. Thanks!

Sorry for mistakes in english :)

Ajax_Undone
7th June 2008, 07:07
Hey Atak_Snajpera You should add png sequence support into your app via avs script... I Love to encode directly to BD...

jamd1
7th June 2008, 08:59
[QUOTE=Atak_Snajpera;1146541I've increased ref frames to 3.
[/QUOTE]


Arghhhhhhh - please don't do anything to updates that slows down the encoding process so drastically - lol 12 hrs for a 2 hr bluray on my core 2 duo is more than long enough as it is.:)

myksto
7th June 2008, 11:40
Hi Atak. I love your little but powerfull tool I've been using for a short time.
I'd like to ask you to change the color of the text in your gui 'cause I find that white is not so clear in some parts of it and some important and useful settings might be invisible sometimes.

I hope you can do it.

Thank you very much.

Bye, Michele.

asarian
7th June 2008, 11:51
Arghhhhhhh - please don't do anything to updates that slows down the encoding process so drastically - lol 12 hrs for a 2 hr bluray on my core 2 duo is more than long enough as it is.:)
I concur. With my insanely high settings, a 2 hour movie, on my quad-core, takes ~17 hours! No need to have that take 3x as long. :)

asarian
7th June 2008, 11:54
Hey Atak_Snajpera You should add png sequence support into your app via avs script... I Love to encode directly to BD...
You mean like .png images from a .sup (subtitle) stream? I'd be very interested in that, too!

Atak_Snajpera
7th June 2008, 12:19
Arghhhhhhh - please don't do anything to updates that slows down the encoding process so drastically - lol 12 hrs for a 2 hr bluray on my core 2 duo is more than long enough as it is.

Core2Duo 3Ghz
Dannii Minogue - Who Do You Love Now.avi
second pass
PSP profile 480x260 ref2 = 62 fps
PSP profile 480x260 ref3 = 55 fps

wow huge difference :)

You mean like .png images from a .sup (subtitle) stream? I'd be very interested in that, too!
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138324

JPSiemer
7th June 2008, 16:44
Atak_Snajpera, could you answer my previous question about the bitrate? I'm going crazy over here because none of my encodes follow the bitrate I set -- it seems like they are fixed and never change... the only way I can achieve closer to the bitrate in mind is trying to find the CRF value that comes close to what I'm looking for... It would be nice just to know or not if others are having this problem, because then I would know its something I'm doing wrong...

Thanks a lot... great app by the way -- I like it more than MeGUI, Handbrake, and StaxRip because of its ease of use and it just works (in most areas!) There are a couple things that could be added like the ability to input custom x264 settings that arent available in the GUI. this isn't as big of a deal tho as not being able to turn off the turbo 1st pass! i always like 2 FULL passes on my material. can you make this a setting in the INI or maybe even the GUI?

Atak_Snajpera
7th June 2008, 16:51
do not modify command line generated by app

JPSiemer
7th June 2008, 17:01
Atak_Snajpera, I'm not modifying the commandline anymore. Do you have any other suggestions?

Atak_Snajpera
7th June 2008, 17:14
increase buffersize

Tyrod
7th June 2008, 20:06
Need help! I'm trying to re-encode VC1 bluray video to AVC or MPEG2. Using RipBot264, I've been able to do this sucessfully. However, the final product has a bitrate far below the original. I've tried changing most of the setting within RipBot and ffdshow without sucess. I start out with up to 25Mbps on the original and end up with 3 - 5 Mbps, just about DVD quality. I'm trying to solve the problem of streaming VC1 encoded video to the PS3. I have another solution, but it's also not without issues. Any thoughts?

Atak_Snajpera
7th June 2008, 20:13
Your source is .evo or .m2ts?

Tyrod
7th June 2008, 20:15
Your source is .evo or .m2ts?

M2TS from the original BluRay

The movie is BD Swordfish VC-1 Video. Audio ac3 @640kBps 48Khz

Atak_Snajpera
7th June 2008, 20:27
What resolution did you use? What bitrate did you use?

Tyrod
7th June 2008, 20:36
What resolution did you use? What bitrate did you use?


Well, the resolution is 1920x1080P and I see no place to specify bitrate. Only a place to specify "MAX BITRATE" which I have set to 100000 (previously 10000). But the transcoding never reached the default MAX BITRATE.

Atak_Snajpera
7th June 2008, 20:56
Well, the resolution is 1920x1080P and I see no place to specify bitrate. Only a place to specify "MAX BITRATE" which I have set to 100000 (previously 10000). But the transcoding never reached the default MAX BITRATE.
Oh my god! What are you doing???? Do not change anything in profile!!!!!!

Change mode to 2-pass!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is this that difficult to find it????

Tyrod
7th June 2008, 21:03
Oh my god! What are you doing???? Do not change anything in profile!!!!!!

Change mode to 2-pass!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is this that difficult to find it????

Dude, don't have an embolism. This is just a tool to me. Thanks for providing it. I'm no video expert. I just need some instructions.

If nothing is supposed to be change in profile, why would changing be allowed?

And no mode change is not hard to find, I just needed to know WHAT to change.

Atak_Snajpera
7th June 2008, 21:18
If nothing is supposed to be change in profile, why would changing be allowed?
it's for expert only!

And no mode change is not hard to find, I just needed to know WHAT to change.
You should play more with gui...

Tyrod
7th June 2008, 21:32
it's for expert only!


You should play more with gui...


Quite a circular argument. Play with GUI but don't change profile. OOOOk...gotcha.

Thanks anyway

Ajax_Undone
7th June 2008, 22:11
??? Ok well the profiles are made so they work with the hardware they were written for... You are free to create new ones if you like I find it best to leave the originals the way they are...

You may also edit the originals but doing so is not recommended or supported unless you know what you are doing...

The GUI has Bit-Rate and CQ mode... CQ is the best way to get good quality, bit-rate is manly used if you want a certain size (ie 700MBCD~4500MBDVD)... (Lower CQ = Better Quality)

Most recommend to read up on some of the stuff b4 you go about encoding that way you know all the terms and abbreviations so you can talk and read with a little more education on the matter...

Tyrod
7th June 2008, 23:09
??? Ok well the profiles are made so they work with the hardware they were written for... You are free to create new ones if you like I find it best to leave the originals the way they are...

You may also edit the originals but doing so is not recommended or supported unless you know what you are doing...

The GUI has Bit-Rate and CQ mode... CQ is the best way to get good quality, bit-rate is manly used if you want a certain size (ie 700MBCD~4500MBDVD)... (Lower CQ = Better Quality)

Most recommend to read up on some of the stuff b4 you go about encoding that way you know all the terms and abbreviations so you can talk and read with a little more education on the matter...

Thank you. Good explaination. I've read the entire thread but it tends to get caught up in minutia and jobs I'm not interested in performing. I don't need to be an expert in cars in order to drive one. I just need to know how to drive.

Ajax_Undone
8th June 2008, 04:31
You do however need to be an expert in mechanics to rebuild one... For your knowledge if any. You are rebuilding video like rebuilding a car certain rules need to be fallowed in order to get it to work correctly...

Proverbially tossing a wrench into the fan belts by changing properties you know nothing about can cause irreparable damage to you encoded Video...

Quite a circular argument. Play with GUI but don't change profile. OOOOk...gotcha.

Thanks anyway

Remember Driving a car has nothing to do with whats under the hood...^^^
The car is the GUI the profiles are the scary moving parts...

I never said Read The Entire Thread I simply said to read up on some of the stuff b4 you go about encoding so the attitude is worthless and miss aimed...

The creator of this GUI Project Works very hard in his free time to make it as simple as he can so dolts like you can easily encode Video to mp4 mkv and BluRay...

(The presets are there to save you time and effort and are set to give you the best quality)

Bit-rate doesn't mean quality... I could encode a video from 30Mbps to a Variable using CQ between 15 to 6Mbps and never miss anything in quality

Atac is a great guy for not charging upwards of 50USD for this app plus one on one help to figure out the problems you are having... (so do us all a favor and loose the attitude b4 you inquire again)


PS. Atac We might need to put a "For Dummies" Guid Up... And no mode change is not hard to find, I just needed to know WHAT to change.

^^^Not the profile^^^

asarian
8th June 2008, 06:04
The GUI has Bit-Rate and CQ mode... CQ is the best way to get good quality, bit-rate is manly used if you want a certain size (ie 700MBCD~4500MBDVD)... (Lower CQ = Better Quality)
I came here asking for the same thing: high-quality VC-1 -> AVC transcoding. Atak kindly advised me to use ESA + RDO Level 2. So I did. And now I use CQ and CRF = 18 (which I read is near lossless). Then I copied the HD-Bluray profile into a custom MAX profile with these settings, and now everything is super-shiny. :)

I'm quite a newbie too, so I'm sure Atak will occassionally have a hard time dealing with the frustrations of us noobs. :) But I hope he keeps remembering that his program exists precisely because not everyone is a video expert. :) I, for one, like to think of myself as so many of my friends: knowledgeable to work DVD Rebuilder and such reasonably sensibly, but not much beyond that. Stepping into the HD world, I assure you, can be a bit daunting at first. :)

But yes, thanks be to Atak and his great program! I even had it build in subtitles recently; and even that went without a hic-up!

Atak_Snajpera
8th June 2008, 09:51
PS. Atac We might need to put a "For Dummies" Guid Up...
I have no time for that. Real job + RipBot264 + EURO2008 + GTAIV ... and so on :)

deets
8th June 2008, 14:02
euro2008 :(

what most newbies should do, like i did, find a nice short demo test clip and use that to test out the gui settings. something about 10 mins long and then you can just try the CQ modes and such without too much hassle to find something your looking for. not like there is a lot in rb264 that needs to be worried about, thats kinda its point (i think!) :D

Ajax_Undone
8th June 2008, 16:27
I have no time for that. Real job + RipBot264 + EURO2008 + GTAIV ... and so on :)

Hey I will Probably Draw one up when I get some free time...

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 16:47
increase buffersize

I told you I cannot increase buffersize or the videos skip while playing back in XBMC...

anyways, i figured out the problem -- my computer just needed a restart and everything worked out great!

thanks for this awesome app...

by the way... did you want to incorporate my Xbox profile in your next release? it works great!

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 17:47
Ok, ran into another problem. I am trying to open a video but I keep getting this error after RipBot264 tries opening the getinfo.avs

"DirectShowSource: RenderFile, the filter graph manager won't talk to me."

What do I do?

Atak_Snajpera
8th June 2008, 17:51
You send me source sample or at least you tell me what are you doing exactly.

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 18:13
Source sample is 4 gigs. I am just trying to open a MKV containing a video encoded with H.264... It de-muxes the audio and the subs fine, but after that it opens Media Player Classic and gives me this message.

Atak_Snajpera
8th June 2008, 18:18
Does it happen with every mkv you have?

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 18:58
Nope... just one particular file...

here's the mediainfo about the file...

General
Complete name : D:\Download\Indiana Jones.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 4.36 GiB
Duration : 1h 55mn
Overal bit rate : 5429 Kbps
Movie name : Indiana Jones and the raiders of the lost ark [HDTV,H.264,AC3] - THOR
Encoded date : UTC 2006-07-26 21:02:23
Writing application : mkvmerge v1.6.5 ('Watcher Of The Skies') built on Dec 7 2005 18:53:53
Writing library : libebml v0.7.6 + libmatroska v0.8.0
Cover : Yes / Yes

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 54mn
Bit rate : 4820 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 5040 Kbps
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.302
Title : Indiana Jones and the raiders of the lost ark
Writing library : x264 core 47 svn-536
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=hex / subme=7 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / slices=2 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=5040 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=9 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30
Language : English

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 55mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Title : AC3 2.0
Language : English

Text
Format : ASS
Codec ID : S_TEXT/ASS
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
Title : English ASS
Language : English

Atak_Snajpera
8th June 2008, 19:05
I need 20MB+ sample

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 19:32
how would i do this? i have no idea how to cut a sample out of the file...

Atak_Snajpera
8th June 2008, 19:37
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/CutFile-Download-80162.html

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 20:06
Thanks Atak! You provide wonderful support...

https://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F8C3C6407D8F7567

Atak_Snajpera
8th June 2008, 20:35
As always :) Sample is working on my PC without problems.
Reinstall FFDShow and so on...

EDIT: Make sure that You don't use this option in FFDShow
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4733/new1qq1.th.png (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1qq1.png)

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 21:06
Still not working for me. I'm using FFDSHOW Rev1980. Should I be using something different?

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 21:13
Well, I just tried the ffdshow_rev1990_20080608_xxl.exe and that didn't work. So I tried the experimental x64 build ( ffdshow_rev1975_20080525_clsid_x64.exe ), and RipBot264 doesn't even recognize it being installed... (I think because it installs to my Codec Package's directory and not the FFDSHOW directory inside of the Program Files folder...)

Either way, I'm guessing this isn't a FFDSHOW problem for me... what other suggestions do you have?

Thanks!

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 21:19
Ok, so I removed my Vista Codec Pack completely and only installed FFDSHOW. Nothing else is installed on my system, but RipBot264 will not open this file! It plays fine on my computer, so why wouldn't RipBot open it???

deets
8th June 2008, 21:20
yeah the 64 bit one only works with 64 bit apps, which rb isnt.

if you have a codec pack, full uninstall it.

Atak_Snajpera
8th June 2008, 21:42
Ok, so I removed my Vista Codec Pack completely and only installed FFDSHOW. Nothing else is installed on my system, but RipBot264 will not open this file! It plays fine on my computer, so why wouldn't RipBot open it???

You should have 3 things installed on system: AviSynth 2.5.7 , Haalli media splitter , FFDshow . Nothing more! Vista Codec pack lol :) Codec pack generation :) remember. Less is sometimes better :)

JPSiemer
8th June 2008, 23:35
Ok, cool... I removed every codec from my computer, reinstalled the Haali Media Splitter and the newest FFDShow (updated today) and everything worked out! It must have been an issue with the Haali Media Splitter that came with the codec pack... Thanks a lot for all the input!

This might be a sticky, since I'm sure there are a lot of other users out there using K-Lite and the CCCP codec packs, and this might be not the best options for them...