RipBot264 v1.18.3 - Simple and easy to use GUI -> IPOD . PSP . CONSOLES . BLURAY

[Atak_Snajpera]

Does it happen with all files? What does mpc say? Show me video - log.txt

[CupCak3]

I only have one disk to try it on at the moment but I was able to do it successfully before (I wanted to try some different encoding options)

Here's a link to my MPC screenshot: http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1216233&postcount=3137

video - log.txt
eac3to v2.78
command line: "C:\RipBot264v1.10.5\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "D:\Earth Biography D1\EARTH_BIOGRAPHY_D1_US\" 2) 2:"E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" 3:"E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.dts" -core 4:"E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitle.1.sup" 1:"E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1 subtitle track, 0:45:27
1: Chapters, 7 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080i60 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Hi-Res, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
4: Subtitle (PGS), English
Creating file "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[s04] Extracting subtitle track number 4...
[a03] Extracting DTS core...
[a03] Patching bitdepth to 24 bits...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Creating file "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.dts"...
[s04] Creating file "E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\subtitle.1.sup"...
[a03] The last DTS frame is incomplete and thus gets skipped.
Added fps value to MKV header.
Video track 2 contains 81727 frames.
eac3to processing took 4 minutes, 55 seconds.
Done.

Here's a copy of getinfo.avs (when opening with notepad, the first line is blank)



video=DirectShowSource("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv",audio=false).ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\RipBot264v1.10.5\tools\AviSynth plugins\NicAudio\NicAudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.dts")
AudioDub(video,audio)
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Framecount")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Framerate")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioRate")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioChannels")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","AudioLength")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Width")
WriteFile("E:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\info.txt","Height ")
Trim(0,-1)


Thanks!

[Atak_Snajpera]

Try to create 50 MB sample from video.mkv. Use mmg.exe from /Tools/MKVToolnix. Send sample to www.mediafire.com

[CupCak3]

Here ya go.



Thanks!

[Atak_Snajpera]

go to FFDShow Video decoder configuration -> codecs -> in section VC-1 change to wmv9. if wmv9 does not exists install WMP11

[CupCak3]

go to FFDShow Video decoder configuration -> codecs -> in section VC-1 change to wmv9. if wmv9 does not exists install WMP11

That worked! Thanks alot for your help!

Now for dumb question, why does wmv9 work and not the libavcodec?

Thanks again!

[asarian]

That worked! Thanks alot for your help!

Now for dumb question, why does wmv9 work and not the libavcodec?

And now for an even dumber question, earlier I heard Atak say to use libavcodec, instead of wmv9, because the former is faster. So, what gives? :)

[Ajax_Undone]

So this is expected? I am sorry to tell you but this is some VERY BAD programming practice.

I return you your question : - what is your problem?

Are you seriously expecting the several millions of vista users to disable a system wide OS security feature only for your application?

UAC is one of the few good things Microsoft has somewhat copied from the unix world and its is something I, as well as thousands of vista users, use every day.

I am sure you know how to code properly, so what is the problem. Is it delphi that doesn't allow to code properly or some other problem?

Ripbot has always worked fine until today, why is it suddenly behaving so badly?


Yeah UAC is gone in the next windows and that just been an annoying software glitch that they have seen the error of there ways and deleted...

You know the Mojave project where they sat down a bunch of people to test Vista they had UAC disabled later that day a small percentage of people were allowed to use it with UAC and it tanked at the very best...


Yeah many people don't like windows crapping out programs they love to use...

UAC reminds me of a virus I got about 3 years ago from a friend... It would put up a little dialog box that said NO! when ever I tried to run anything I could browse folders but couldn't start anything... UAC is the same way in my book and I will never condone using it...

[shades]

I don't suppose it would be possible to add in language selection when doing a re-code on a .mkv file? I want to keep the original DTS in an English file but all I get is Spanish.

[Ajax_Undone]

All the audio files are demuxed when a stream is loaded just browse with the audio browser the same way you did when you selected the video and select a different Audio file from the temp folder...

[asarian]

UAC reminds me of a virus I got about 3 years ago from a friend... It would put up a little dialog box that said NO! when ever I tried to run anything I could browse folders but couldn't start anything... UAC is the same way in my book and I will never condone using it...

The rationale behind UAC really isn't all that bad. It's akin to having to 'su' in UNIX to add packages that need to install libraries and such. Any half-way decent UNIX System Adminstrator can tell you that doing everything as root is simply very bad practice. Where UAC went awry, however, is that Microsoft built it with the specific purpose of annoying its user base. :) No, I kid you not -- they even admitted it openly. The idea behind that rather warped thinking was, that users would get so pissed off by UAC popups, that software writers would be forced to write better software (read: software that finds a way around the 'lazy' route of doing stuff which needs admin access all the time, even when not strictly needed for the task). Problem, for one, is that you even need admin rights to write to \Program Files\, which in day-to-day life just means you need them always. :)

Still, the idea behind it really wasn't all that bad.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Now for dumb question, why does wmv9 work and not the libavcodec?
wmv9 is Microsoft's VC-1 implementation. libavcodec is open source created by community. First is more stable but later is faster and unfortunatelly in this case less stable.

Still, the idea behind it really wasn't all that bad.
If I use Aministrator account I want full access without shity pop-up windows. If you want secure environment use limited User Account.

[Denner]

If I encode a 1080p file using the CQ mode ( using CRF 18 or 20 ) will the output still be profile 4.0 and will the maximum bitrate still be held under 25000kbps ?

The reason I am asking is that I am encoding for my Tvix 6500 and it has a problem wit to high bitrates in MKV's.

[asarian]

If I use Aministrator account I want full access without shity pop-up windows. If you want secure environment use limited User Account.

Well, that's another thing that went wrong with UAC: Administrator accounts should not be bothered by anything, like the root user.

[DIVX2009]

Hi Atak,
I have many hd-dvd 1280x1080, 1440x1080 16/9 and i convert a avchd or a mkv in same rezolution, but.... the final movie is not 16/9 ????
TKS.!

[over-killer]

@Atak

Would there be a way to get ripbot to hard encode subtitles into the blurays?

Thank you

[nwg]

I have a question on subs as well.

If I have a Blu Ray such as Kill Bill with forced subs for short bits of the film. I can build them in the picture to make them come up. This works great however, what if I add a second subtitle for the whole film. What happens when it gets to the same short bits? Does it put two subtitles over the top of each other. Am I better of just adding the two subtitles and select them manually each time?

[Adub]

Right now there is very limited support for Blu-ray subtitles. Then only way to render them effectively is to use an OCR program to rip them to SRT and then overlay that file onto your encode. However, the OCR programs that support Blu-ray are far from perfect at this point in time. Thus, they are not ready to be added into the RipBot processing chain quite yet, as they are not fully automated. If you would be willing to OCR the subtitle yourself, then yes, you could overlay subtitles into your Blu-ray encodes.

[Atak_Snajpera]

1440x1080 16/9 and i convert a avchd or a mkv in same rezolution, but.... the final movie is not 16/9 ????
I'm not big fan of anamorphic resolutions therefore you have two options: Resize to 1920x1080 or 1280x720. You choose.

Would there be a way to get ripbot to hard encode subtitles into the blurays?
properties -> subtitles -> build in picture

If I encode a 1080p file using the CQ mode ( using CRF 18 or 20 ) will the output still be profile 4.0 and will the maximum bitrate still be held under 25000kbps ?
don't go above 20!

[asarian]

If I encode a 1080p file using the CQ mode ( using CRF 18 or 20 ) will the output still be profile 4.0 and will the maximum bitrate still be held under 25000kbps ?


don't go above 20!
Please, clarify. Are you saying the bitrate will go over 25Mb/s at CQ > 20? Or are you simply stating that CQ > 20 is not a good idea in general?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Please, clarify. Are you saying the bitrate will go over 25Mb/s at CQ > 20? Or are you simply stating that CQ > 20 is not a good idea in general?
if movie has 16:9 aspect ratio (no black bars) it will go above 25 Mbps very easly with 18 and probably with 20 as well. That's why I recommend default 22 value.

[mikelebron]

Can you explain exactly CQ mode is and the significance of the value? 22 is better then 18???

if movie has 16:9 aspect ratio (no black bars) it will go above 25 Mbps very easly with 18 and probably with 20 as well. That's why I recommend default 22 value.

[Atak_Snajpera]

lower value means higher quality and higher bitrate/file size
higher value means lower quality and lower bitrate/file size

In my opinion everything below 22 is insane.

[asarian]

if movie has 16:9 aspect ratio (no black bars) it will go above 25 Mbps very easly with 18 and probably with 20 as well. That's why I recommend default 22 value.

Then what is --vbv-maxrate for, if the max is pretty much ignored? I encode at 16, even (in earnest, 18 would probably do, too). But honestly, this has me a worried a bit. L4.0 is, by specification, not to go above 25Mb/s, which means you break the specifications by allowing bitrates to go over 25Mb/s. And the whole reason to downgrade to L4.0 was to be more compatible, right?

Seriously, if bitrates truly easily go over 25Mb/s on L4.0, by CQ <= 20, then I think you're better off just reverting to L4.1, because at least then you're staying (almost guaranteed) nicely under the 50Mb/s specification.

[Atak_Snajpera]

CRF was not designed for --vbv-maxrate. You should use 2-pass instead. It was explained many times by x264 developers!

I encode at 16, even (in earnest, 18 would probably do, too).
16 (?!?!?!!?!??!) Whyyyyyyyyyyy..... Insaneeeeeeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :)

[asarian]

CRF was not designed for --vbv-maxrate. You should use 2-pass instead. It was explained many times by x264 developers!


That's true, of course: vbv-maxrate has no meaning with CRF. Nevertheless, "[ level 4.0 ] HD . BluRay . Consoles" is default set to DefaultEncodingMode=CQ/22, not 2-Pass. CRF is very polular, though.


16 (?!?!?!!?!??!) Whyyyyyyyyyyy..... Insaneeeeeeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :)


To quote the x264 author:

"Recommendation: The range 18-26 is probably where you will want to look at. If you need absolutely perfect quality you could go down to 16, but it's probably not worth it. Around 19-21.5 is where a rip will look very good. Higher res encoding can generally get away with higher crf values."

People re-encode for different reasons. I, because my PS3 can't handle VC-1 (except in a WMV container with 2.0 sound), so I'm not interested in losing any detail, and want that absolutely perfect quality. Others may just be in it for making AVCHD's and such.

There's no such thing as consensus on the net, of course, but I believe a CRF value of 18 is generally considered "near lossless". So, if the only reason to use CRF=22 is to avoid going over 25Mbs, I dunno, then if you really don't want to go back to L4.1, maybe a 2-pass high profile is in order, so as to guarantee L4.0 users stay within specifications?

[shades]

All the audio files are demuxed when a stream is loaded just browse with the audio browser the same way you did when you selected the video and select a different Audio file from the temp folder...

This doesn't work because the Audio is a multi track file and has multiple languages inside the DTS file. So, there is only one file/stream and English could be set as 4th track in the stream but RipBot only selects the first track :(

Pretty please, can a track selection option be added??

[mikelebron]

This is all new to me so please dont mind if I ask some more details..

I see the discussion around the profile being 4.0 or 4.1, etc. Does this have an effect on the CQ mode OR is the profile just meta data for compatibility?

Can you point me in the right direction to learn more about the settings?

lower value means higher quality and higher bitrate/file size
higher value means lower quality and lower bitrate/file size

In my opinion everything below 22 is insane.

[over-killer]

properties -> subtitles -> build in picture

Thank you

[asarian]

I see the discussion around the profile being 4.0 or 4.1, etc. Does this have an effect on the CQ mode OR is the profile just meta data for compatibility?

Setting a higher CRF, like 22, will probably keep the bitrate under 25Mb/s. I say 'probably', because, as Atak said himself, --vbv-maxrate has no meaning with CRF. A lower value, however, like 18, is almost certainly to go over the specification bitrate limit for L4.0. And I honestly can't say I find that a comforting thought. Downgrading to L4.0, in order to stay compatible with older devices, at the cost of easily risking transgressing the specified bitrate limit for said lower level (unless you're willing to stay at CRF >= 22), that logic just seems to clash somehow. Atak, it almost feels like you're clinging to the downgrade to L4.0 against your better judgement. :)

Now, it's no chip of my block, really, as I can just create a 4.1 level profile myself and be done with it. Which I did, of course. But, in terms of compatibility, the notion that you can easily overshoot the bitrate limit for L4.0 is something I find a bit worrisome. I mean, what if my PS3, at the next firmware upgrade, suddenly decided to adhere to standards a little stricter, and whips out one of its infamous 'data corrupt' messages when you try to play a file with a bitrate too high for that level? Chances of that occurring are slim, I reckon; but overall, why not just stay within specifications? And you can, if your CRF >= 22. But maybe a comment line could be added then to the 4.0 Bluray Profile, stating that going with a lower CRF will likely cause operation outside specifications for a L4.0 level (or, if you wanted to go fancy, RipBot264 itself could forcibly set the lowest safe value when what the user chose is considered too low). All-in-all, for a high Blu-ray Profile using a low CRF, L4.1 would still be my first choice.


Can you point me in the right direction to learn more about the settings?

You could always have a look at this:

http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings

[asarian]

Hmm, my Profile clearly says: "--me tesa" (transformed exhaustive); yet in EncodeVideoPass1.cmd I suddenly see it reverted to "--me esa". Why is that?

[binhex]

hi atak_snajpera, i would just like to say thanks for your app, ive been using now for over 2 months and its rock solid and produces really good results!. i do have one request though, would it be possible to define the default audio bitrate in the ini file as i have to remember to set it from 128 to 192kbps every time i add a video.

also i don't know how many people are doing this but my usage of your app is to shrink down the size of 1080p material to a more palatable 2GB file size, works a treat and the quality is normally pretty much unchanged!.

paul.

[Atak_Snajpera]

also i don't know how many people are doing this but my usage of your app is to shrink down the size of 1080p material to a more palatable 2GB file size, works a treat and the quality is normally pretty much unchanged!.

1080p shrank to 2GB ?!?!!? Full movie ????

Hmm, my Profile clearly says: "--me tesa" (transformed exhaustive); yet in EncodeVideoPass1.cmd I suddenly see it reverted to "--me esa". Why is that?
because commands and positions are hardcoded . BTW. even esa is extremally insane (ask developers if you don't believe me) and you use even more insane tesa?

[binhex]

1080p shrank to 2GB ?!?!!? Full movie ????


i know it sounds like the results will be bad but seriously the quality and results are very good, basically the reason im doing this it to reduce down 8GB 1080p material. im using the 2-pass method, it takes a while but hey i think its worth it :-).

[Atak_Snajpera]

You are loosing alot of fine details! Don't be fooled! Compare original with encoded and guarantee you will be shocked how bad it looks like. 1080p requires a least DVD-DL!

[binhex]

You are loosing alot of fine details! Don't be fooled! Compare original with encoded and guarantee you will be shocked how bad it looks like. 1080p requires a least DVD-DL!

i will take a look tonight and see how much detail i am loosing, to be honest even if im loosing some of the fine detail im still getting results which far surpass a dvdrip for the same file size, which for me is what im after, buying dvd-dl disks or having 8gb files hanging around on my hard drive is a no goer for me :-), thanks for the info!.

paul.

[asarian]

i will take a look tonight and see how much detail i am loosing, to be honest even if im loosing some of the fine detail im still getting results which far surpass a dvdrip for the same file size, which for me is what im after, buying dvd-dl disks or having 8gb files hanging around on my hard drive is a no goer for me :-), thanks for the info!.

Well, we see two ends of the spectrum here: me, going for 'insane' high quality vs. you going for insane low quality. :) Seriously, though, 2G files are waaaaaaaay to small for 1080P content. I also don't quite get you rationale: if you think DVD'9's are too expensive, surely DVD5 (4.7G) are dirt-cheap. So, for all that's holy and decent, at least burn 4G files. :)

[binhex]

Well, we see two ends of the spectrum here: me, going for 'insane' high quality vs. you going for insane low quality. :) Seriously, though, 2G files are waaaaaaaay to small for 1080P content. I also don't quite get you rationale: if you think DVD'9's are too expensive, surely DVD5 (4.7G) are dirt-cheap. So, for all that's holy and decent, at least burn 4G files. :)

hehe, ok ok, i will think about it, it all depends on how good your eyeballs are too i guess :-). im doing a rip at the mo so will take a look at the results when i get home, thanks for the feedback guys.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Personally I use DVD-SL (4480MB) and resize 1080 to 720. You would be surprised how small difference is between those two in terms of quality. I will try to show you few examples later.

[nwg]

I have done one blu ray at 1080p down to 4450 and it is amazing quality. I wanted to display the results back in 1080p/24. The reason I won't do it anymore is it takes 48 hours to do on my setup. With 720p, I can do it in about 30 hours.

[~bT~]

SD.PSP profile doesnt have any bufsize or maxrate

--level 3.0 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,p4x4, --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

would this be correct?

--level 3.0 --vbv-bufsize 10000 --vbv-maxrate 10000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,p4x4, --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

[Atak_Snajpera]

SD.PSP profile doesnt have any bufsize or maxrate
PSP is able to play video even at 25 MBps :) So I see no reason to change anything in profile.

[~bT~]

^ i did a few crf-22 encodes and they were stuttering.. on my PC (Q6600). It doesn't happen when i play 1080p BD.

EDIT: source was VC1 1080p @ 29.970fps 8000kbps

[Atak_Snajpera]

Do I always have to remind you about samples?

[~bT~]

Do I always have to remind you about samples?

u have that sample :)

anyway, it doesn't matter that much, i will just edit the profile myself.

[Atak_Snajpera]

What? Where? When? ...........:confused::confused::confused::confused:

[jamd1]

Personally I use DVD-SL (4480MB) and resize 1080 to 720. You would be surprised how small difference is between those two in terms of quality. I will try to show you few examples later.


I agree - any movie under 2 hours produces great 720p results for a dvd5. I always use 2 pass 4480 fixed size, keeping orinal audio where possible - As long as video bitrate is > 4000.
If the movie has selective forced subtitles -( i.e. for non English spoken parts, mixed into the full English .sup file.)
Then I will encode to 1080 on a dvd9 - This is the only way I have found that allows you to use the original .sup without corruption and properly plays the subtitle only when non- English is spoken. ( manually picking out and converting the required subtitles to .srt for these movie types is a very tedious task).

[nwg]

I agree - any movie under 2 hours produces great 720p results for a dvd5. I always use 2 pass 4480 fixed size, keeping orinal audio where possible - As long as video bitrate is > 4000.
If the movie has selective forced subtitles -( i.e. for non English spoken parts, mixed into the full English .sup file.)
Then I will encode to 1080 on a dvd9 - This is the only way I have found that allows you to use the original .sup without corruption and properly plays the subtitle only when non- English is spoken. ( manually picking out and converting the required subtitles to .srt for these movie types is a very tedious task).

How do you get the original sup files to work with ripbot? I have been changing them to srt first as if I select the subtitles track in the analyse stream, I don't get subtitles on the disc. Forced subs such as Kill Bill have their own forced subtitle track.

[anon.j2]

Two small things:


Found some reference to pausing other programs http://www.codeproject.com/KB/threads/pausep.aspx -- might help make a pause button for ripbot
It might just be me, but checkboxes next to jobs in the jobs list would be nice. For example: I put 5 jobs in the queue, they're all checked I start encoding I come back some time later and see that there's a little bit of time left for job #2 to finish I uncheck jobs 3, 4, and 5 When job 2 finishes, RipBot falls through and doesn't try encoding the rest of the jobs At this point I can use my computer again

I'm trying to find a way to manage when I can/can't use my computer because ripbot is encoding. Sometimes just letting it go overnight isn't long enough :)
bump.

[shades]

This doesn't work because the Audio is a multi track file and has multiple languages inside the DTS file. So, there is only one file/stream and English could be set as 4th track in the stream but RipBot only selects the first track :(

Pretty please, can a track selection option be added??

Well Handbrake 0.9.3 will allow track selection in a DTS file but it won't pass through the DTS and encodes to DD. I don't suppose anyone can recomend anything if this is not going to be possible in RipBot ??