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guest
18th October 2019, 16:19
Wow, I've never seen that. Maybe they're also near the end of their life?
TY for the graphs.
Those or M.2. Pretty much any drive that does 500MB/s or more read/write, which is pretty common these days.
I have an M.2 that does around 2GB/s for read/write.
Yeah, pretty bad :(
Thanks, I'll get the best I can that will suit my MB (no native support)
Atak_Snajpera
18th October 2019, 16:21
Wow, I've never seen that. Maybe they're also near the end of their life?
TY for the graphs.
No, it is because SLC cache is tiny (around 3 GiB)
So, what would you suggest...SSD's or PCI-e mounted NVMe's ??
Obviously something using NVMe. Downside of PCI-e is that you most likely won't be able to boot from that drive. Before you buy anything make sure that write speed is good across whole capacity. Do not be fooled by that SLC-cache used in TLC/QLC drives.
mparade
19th October 2019, 00:28
1) Source files are on your home PC.
2) Work PC just needs EncodingServer.exe running!
3) The idea is that you connect via VPN to work PC and then Work PC sees shared folder (for example \\HOME-PC\RipBot264temp) on Home PC.
With VPN connection established using my remote PC, servers of the remote PC remain in offline mode even after trying to connect to them from home PC (after pressing ON button it tries to connect to remote servers but after some second it returns to offline mode again). Should I set something else as well? My admin told VPN now should be working. Please help. Thank you.
guest
19th October 2019, 02:18
I have an M.2 that does around 2GB/s for read/write.
Hey, well, I think I've decided what I want to try, and that is get a couple of NVMe PCI-e Adapter's, and maybe 500Gb M.2 Samsung 970's (or similar).
Might as well spend a little more, than "settle" for some "fast" SSD's, they are so 2017 :rolleyes:
And to a point that Atak made, PCI-e mounted NVMe's may not boot, but I won't be using them as the boot / OS drive.
guest
19th October 2019, 02:23
Your SSDs are even worse than your HDDs! :eek:
https://i.ibb.co/vVV6Ty7/hdd-Wd-green.png
I just noticed that these are depicted as being Green HDD's, but indeed, they were Green SSD's in a RAID 0...
So that show's you how piss weak they are !!!
byteshare
19th October 2019, 07:54
With VPN connection established using my remote PC, servers of the remote PC remain in offline mode even after trying to connect to them from home PC (after pressing ON button it tries to connect to remote servers but after some second it returns to offline mode again). Should I set something else as well? My admin told VPN now should be working. Please help. Thank you.
Can you reach the share manually from the remote PC?
Can you ping the remote PC?
guest
19th October 2019, 07:59
Obviously something using NVMe. Downside of PCI-e is that you most likely won't be able to boot from that drive. Before you buy anything make sure that write speed is good across whole capacity. Do not be fooled by that SLC-cache used in TLC/QLC drives.
Could you please give me your honest opinion on these items ??
NVMe PCI-e adaptors
https://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-SST-ECM24-SuperSpeed-PCI-heatsink/dp/B07MG73P8P/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=Silverstone+M.2+NVMe+SSD+NGFF&qid=1571467552&sr=8-7
or
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Adapter-Integrated-Heatsink/dp/B07MRKNH6G/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=SilverStone+ECM23+M.2+to+PCIe+x4&qid=1571467714&sr=8-3
500Gb NVMe's
https://www.amazon.com/XPG-SX8200-Gen3x4-3000MB-ASX8200PNP-512GT-C/dp/B07K1HMMJC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=ADATA+XPG+512GB+SX8200+Pro&qid=1571467837&sr=8-1
or
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-500GB-MZ-V7E500BW/dp/B07BN4NJ2J/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2VNB3BDWFVT5W&keywords=samsung+970+nvme+500gb&qid=1571467930&sprefix=Samsung+970+nvme%2Caps%2C387&sr=8-2
At this stage, I think I would go a 500Gb for the temp drive, and 250Gb for the encode drive, and just "clean up" after every job or 2.
Atak_Snajpera
19th October 2019, 13:32
500Gb NVMe's
https://www.amazon.com/XPG-SX8200-Ge...1467837&sr=8-1
or
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-E...s%2C387&sr=8-2
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/rJVbF7mbkoW3awfWyKp8Bo-650-80.png
Like I said, if you can afford buy Samsung 970 PRO (MLC)... Adata sx8200 also looks good until 60GiB mark.
Atak_Snajpera
19th October 2019, 14:03
With VPN connection established using my remote PC, servers of the remote PC remain in offline mode even after trying to connect to them from home PC (after pressing ON button it tries to connect to remote servers but after some second it returns to offline mode again). Should I set something else as well? My admin told VPN now should be working. Please help. Thank you.
1) run encodingserver.exe on remote pc and take a screenshot.
2) run ripbot264.exe on your home pc. go to settings->Distributed encoding and show me what client ips are listed under CLIENT IP
3) Are you sure firewall on remote pc does block connection?
guest
19th October 2019, 14:11
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/rJVbF7mbkoW3awfWyKp8Bo-650-80.png
Like I said, if you can afford buy Samsung 970 PRO (MLC)... Adata sx8200 also looks good until 60GiB mark.
I would be interested to see this info for the new'ish 970 Plus.
Found some :- not too good :(
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-970-evo-plus-ssd,5608-2.html
Adata is 2nd best, but a fair bit off the mark :(
I think the Pro is a little too exy for me, the Plus is substantially cheaper, but might be only a little "slower"
And are those adapters suitable ??
Atak_Snajpera
19th October 2019, 14:18
24 GiB file copy test
https://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/wkoczyk/201901/evo_plus/kop_bduzy_z.png
And are those adapters suitable ??
yes
guest
19th October 2019, 14:37
24 GiB file copy test
:thanks:
Interesting, but I'm now undecided, I don't want to get 2 x 512Gb Pro's, meaning one for Temp, one for Encoding....which would benefit more with a Pro ?, as compared to say the Plus, or the Adata XPG ??
Atak_Snajpera
19th October 2019, 14:53
Adata xpg has very good write speed up to 60GiB so it should fit to your needs. You should be able to combine chunks and mux in less than 2 minutes. Still huge improvement from your old ssds with ~100MiB/s write speed.
guest
20th October 2019, 00:35
Adata xpg has very good write speed up to 60GiB so it should fit to your needs. You should be able to combine chunks and mux in less than 2 minutes. Still huge improvement from your old ssds with ~100MiB/s write speed.
I think your crystal ball is working again, 'cause that's exactly what I was thinking...if it's good for 60Gb, that is about the size of the final encode. :)
OK, so most of these posts have been about getting the combining of chunks, and the muxing process done a lot faster...this should also affect the initial copying & indexing of the job, correct ??
And one other thought about the 970 Pro...would it be another option to get a 1tb "stick", and then partition it, in say a 60/40 split....I know it's 2 drives on the same "stick", but with the performance of it, it should be able to still read & write fast, at the same time.
Atak_Snajpera
20th October 2019, 11:00
Indexing will be most likely slowed down by performance of your CPU (single core). Remuxing is basicaly a copy process.
skylinekiller
20th October 2019, 11:31
So it appears the "Default.style" file is just for decoration. I just downloaded, updated and reinstalled the latest RipBot. No matter what numbers I change, the font is always the same. Where can i change the default subtitle characteristics? The RipBot264\Tools\AviSynth plugins\VSFilter seems to be a dead-end.
Is this something that can be remedied in the next update?
Atak_Snajpera
20th October 2019, 16:57
So it appears the "Default.style" file is just for decoration. I just downloaded, updated and reinstalled the latest RipBot. No matter what numbers I change, the font is always the same. Where can i change the default subtitle characteristics? The RipBot264\Tools\AviSynth plugins\VSFilter seems to be a dead-end.
Is this something that can be remedied in the next update?
Latest version of VSfilter indeed stopped reading .style file for .srt subtitles. You will have to always convert .srt subtitles to .ass/.ssa and disable shadow directly. I could automate this process if this really annoys you.
skylinekiller
20th October 2019, 21:18
You will have to always convert .srt subtitles to .ass/.ssa and disable shadow directly. I could automate this process if this really annoys you.
That what I have been doing since it broke. It does take away the luxury of it being automated. It would bee nice if you could automate the process with the attached settings in a future update. I'm sure there are more pressing things to fix, but I do a lot of foreign films with subtitles.
Thank you
guest
21st October 2019, 07:51
And what of my simple feature request, on RB gui's main window, the current core version/build is displayed (for quick reference)
I thought you could do something like this :-
http://www.mediafire.com/file/o6ktod3uk23tkd5/RB.jpg/file
There must be someway to "link" it to the info in the Tool's list, so that it updates itself.
slalom
21st October 2019, 13:46
dtsma track is recognised as dts in the audio section of the job
dtsma track was recognised as dtsma in the past
Atak_Snajpera
21st October 2019, 14:47
dtsma track is recognised as dts in the audio section of the job
dtsma track was recognised as dtsma in the past
Bug in mediainfo
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1887964#post1887964
byteshare
22nd October 2019, 17:50
Send me 100MiB sample with that BT.2020 (12-bit) transfer characteristics.
Not sure what you changed but is working with Core 2019.10.19 Thank you!
Atak_Snajpera
22nd October 2019, 19:19
That what I have been doing since it broke. It does take away the luxury of it being automated. It would bee nice if you could automate the process with the attached settings in a future update. I'm sure there are more pressing things to fix, but I do a lot of foreign films with subtitles.
Thank you
Done. Edit default.style in \Tools\SRTtoSSA folder
guest
23rd October 2019, 00:07
Done. Edit default.style in \Tools\SRTtoSSA folder
Got the latest update this morning, but something went wrong (tried it twice)
2019-10-23 10:00:25 : New section [SRTtoSSA] detected
2019-10-23 10:00:25 : Downloading file http://atak-snajpera.5v.pl/ripbot264update/SRTtoSSA.zip to D:\RipBot264v1.25.0\Updates\SRTtoSSA.zip
2019-10-23 10:00:25 : [ERROR] File http://atak-snajpera.5v.pl/ripbot264update/SRTtoSSA.zip could not be downloaded!
2019-10-23 10:00:25 : Downloading finished.
And how do you access what this does ??
Such a shame that there isn't an easy .sub to .srt conversion :(
ReinerSchweinlin
23rd October 2019, 01:04
Just doing some encodes on some cartoon and anime stuff. While previewing, I noticed many duplicate frames. Some time ago, I used Donads DUP Filter to optimize this - so I tried to use it in Ripbot... But itīs too old, 32Bit, etc...
I could use some help implementing a filter like the old DUP. Any hints anyone?
byteshare
23rd October 2019, 02:36
Such a shame that there isn't an easy .sub to .srt conversion :(
Yeah, that is because .subs are imaged based so it isn't as simple to translate them.
Just doing some encodes on some cartoon and anime stuff. While previewing, I noticed many duplicate frames. Some time ago, I used Donads DUP Filter to optimize this - so I tried to use it in Ripbot... But itīs too old, 32Bit, etc...
I could use some help implementing a filter like the old DUP. Any hints anyone?
Either you'll need to find an updated or alternative filter for 64B support or use an old version of RB :(
With anime it is pretty normal to have duplicate frames without variable frame rate. Using x265 I don't find it is a major impact on file size or encoding time.
guest
23rd October 2019, 12:49
Yeah, that is because .subs are imaged based so it isn't as simple to translate them.
Yep, thank goodness for SubtitleEdit :cool:
skylinekiller
23rd October 2019, 13:39
Done. Edit default.style in \Tools\SRTtoSSA folder
Thank you very much, but I don't see a default file in that folder. Do I copy the one from VSFilter folder and use it in the SRTtoSSA folder?
guest
23rd October 2019, 14:02
Thank you very much, but I don't see a default file in that folder. Do I copy the one from VSFilter folder and use it in the SRTtoSSA folder?
Are you sure you have that folder ??
I got the latest update earlier today, and there was a problem downloading that item.
There's an ssatosrt folder, but not the srttossa.. :(
sneaker_ger
23rd October 2019, 14:05
Latest version of VSfilter indeed stopped reading .style file for .srt subtitles.
I tried the vsfilter from the package in the start post. It still works. Make sure the .style file ends with a newline.
byteshare
23rd October 2019, 16:44
Would it be possible in a future update to change some of the EncodingClient behavior so that it can stay minimized (if you minimize it) or not steal focus when a new job comes up?
This isn't urgent but it was less noticeable for me before some of the fixes that sped up my encodes. While working on other things, the EncodingClient is either popping up in-front of things and/or taking focus.
(similar to how the main RB window can stay minimized or the encoding servers)
Atak_Snajpera
23rd October 2019, 17:07
Would it be possible in a future update to change some of the EncodingClient behavior so that it can stay minimized (if you minimize it) or not steal focus when a new job comes up?
This isn't urgent but it was less noticeable for me before some of the fixes that sped up my encodes. While working on other things, the EncodingClient is either popping up in-front of things and/or taking focus.
(similar to how the main RB window can stay minimized or the encoding servers)
If Ripbot264.exe is minimized then EncodingClient.exe will also start as minimized (focus is not stolen). Works fine on my win7.
skylinekiller
23rd October 2019, 20:29
Are you sure you have that folder ??
I got the latest update earlier today, and there was a problem downloading that item.
There's an ssatosrt folder, but not the srttossa.. :(
Yes, please see the pic I posted. That is the folder with the files inside of it. no Default file though
guest
23rd October 2019, 23:57
Got the latest update this morning, but something went wrong (tried it twice)
2019-10-23 10:00:25 : New section [SRTtoSSA] detected
2019-10-23 10:00:25 : Downloading file http://atak-snajpera.5v.pl/ripbot264update/SRTtoSSA.zip to D:\RipBot264v1.25.0\Updates\SRTtoSSA.zip
2019-10-23 10:00:25 : [ERROR] File http://atak-snajpera.5v.pl/ripbot264update/SRTtoSSA.zip could not be downloaded!
2019-10-23 10:00:25 : Downloading finished.
And how do you access what this does ??
(edit), so another auto update today, and this time, this DID come in...
guest
23rd October 2019, 23:59
Yes, please see the pic I posted. That is the folder with the files inside of it. no Default file though
Cannot open your attachment, you need to post them some other way.
See if you can get the very latest auto update !!
byteshare
24th October 2019, 05:56
If Ripbot264.exe is minimized then EncodingClient.exe will also start as minimized (focus is not stolen). Works fine on my win7.
Ah, okay. I usually keep RB (main window) up to see where in the queue I am but like the Client minimized. If I keep everything minimized it all stays minimized.
guest
25th October 2019, 02:28
Ah, okay. I usually keep RB (main window) up to see where in the queue I am but like the Client minimized. If I keep everything minimized it all stays minimized.
Are you really sure about that, byteshare ??
Mind you, doesn't the Client maximise, when it start's a new Job ?!?
I can have ANY combo I like open, either both minimized, both maximized, or either one, min. &/or max. (Windows 10 1903 19h1 & Windows Server 2019).
guest
25th October 2019, 14:11
That said, if you are using filters like MDGrain2, IMO you shouldn't worry about the bitrate because you're going to be chopping out a lot with that so you should just use CRF12 or so from what it I'm guessing you like.
Just wanted to say that I did a 1080p x264 to 1080p x265 conversion today, 10 bit Profile, Tune set to Grain, and using CRF 16 (didn't know how to get any lower).
It came out with a lower bitrate, approx 2Gb smaller than original, but it was pretty damn good, a lot more defined & sharper.
I am going to compare it to the same settings, BUT 1 pass @ 30Mp/s, and see if I can tell the difference.
Atak_Snajpera
25th October 2019, 14:27
(didn't know how to get any lower).
Use keyboard.
brumsky
25th October 2019, 16:02
@atak_snajpera
Could you please add an option for AAC 7.1?
thanks for the great software!
byteshare
25th October 2019, 16:27
Are you really sure about that, byteshare ??
Mind you, doesn't the Client maximise, when it start's a new Job ?!?
I can have ANY combo I like open, either both minimized, both maximized, or either one, min. &/or max. (Windows 10 1903 19h1 & Windows Server 2019).
Yes, on Win10, if I have both minimized they both stay minimized but if I have one open the client comes back when a new job starts.
Now that I realize the behavior I just keep the RB window minimized after looking at it.
guest
25th October 2019, 18:28
Use keyboard.
:thanks:
guest
26th October 2019, 03:57
Like I said, if you can afford buy Samsung 970 PRO (MLC)... Adata sx8200 also looks good until 60GiB mark.
OK, so I now have my 2 ADATA SX8200's installed, and I just did your IO tester on them..so I'm sure you're interested in the numbers, so could you kindly suss out the .csv's, and post the graphs & comment :)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ifcdsdsm64g0jau/Desktop.rar/file
Atak_Snajpera
26th October 2019, 12:30
OK, so I now have my 2 ADATA SX8200's installed, and I just did your IO tester on them..so I'm sure you're interested in the numbers, so could you kindly suss out the .csv's, and post the graphs & comment :)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ifcdsdsm64g0jau/Desktop.rar/file
I would return them ASAP. SLC cache only 5 GiB?!?
https://i.imgsafe.org/43/43532ed597.png
https://i.imgsafe.org/43/43532ddedc.png
Read speed looks good though...
https://i.imgsafe.org/43/433e25ebe7.png
guest
26th October 2019, 12:55
I would return them ASAP. SLC cache only 5 GiB?!?
WOW, that is EXTREMELY disappointing !!!, mind you, not too sure what that SLC cache means :(
I doubt I will return them, but I certainly wouldn't buy then again, but as they are WAY better than anything else I have.
I did a test on a RAID-0 of Seagate 3Tb 7200rpm spinners, and it was surprising fast...
So, with these being 512Mb NVME's, the performance must be down on the 1Tb that everyone seems to write about.
Could it be the adapter's...could it be the "slot" I have them in ??
The adapters I got are a full x16 type, and I have them in a x16 slot.
Would it be better or worse if they were in a x8 slot, even though I would think they would only use the speed they need.
Atak_Snajpera
26th October 2019, 13:06
WOW, that is EXTREMELY disappointing !!!, mind you, not too sure what that SLC cache means :(
I doubt I will return them, but I certainly wouldn't buy then again, but as they are WAY better than anything else I have.
I did a test on a RAID-0 of Seagate 3Tb 7200rpm spinners, and it was surprising fast...
So, with these being 512Mb NVME's, the performance must be down on the 1Tb that everyone seems to write about.
Could it be the adapter's...could it be the "slot" I have them in ??
The adapters I got are a full x16 type, and I have them in a x16 slot.
Would it be better or worse if they were in a x8 slot, even though I would think they would only use the speed they need.
You may try doing RAID-0 to at least get consistent 1 GiB/s write speed...
guest
26th October 2019, 13:11
You may try doing RAID-0 to at least get consistent 1 GiB/s write speed...
So you don't think it would change anything using different PCI-e slots ??
And the only way to create a RAID-0 would be in Windows Disk Management.
I will suss that out, seeing I haven't really used them yet, and I will send you the results.
BTW, were there different results in the 60Gb test ??
Atak_Snajpera
26th October 2019, 13:15
So you don't think it would change anything using different PCI-e slots ??
And the only way to create a RAID-0 would be in Windows Disk Management.
I will suss that out, seeing I haven't really used them yet, and I will send you the results.
BTW, were there different results in the 60Gb test ??
Read speed clearly shows that everything is ok with your setup
https://i.imgsafe.org/43/433e25ebe7.png
No. 60GiB test is basically a truncated 120GiB test. Write speed sucks because you bought TLC drive instead of MLC.
guest
26th October 2019, 13:20
Read speed clearly shows that everything is ok with your setup
No. 60GiB test is basically a truncated 120GiB test. Write speed sucks because you bought TLC drive instead of MLC.
OK, fair enough, thanks for this.
I guess I'll have to do a bit more "research", but I guess I should just "man up" and get the 970 Pro's that you suggested in the first place.
I will have to reach out to byteshare to test his NVMe's, and see what results he gets.
Atak_Snajpera
26th October 2019, 13:23
I guess I'll have to do a bit more "research", but I guess I should just "man up" and get the 970 Pro's that you suggested in the first place.
yeah. If your workflow requires high consistent write speed then TLC/QLC is a big no no.
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