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illestdomer2005
17th December 2008, 17:01
Too bad that didn't solve it for you.

You know, another thing I got to think about, to what codec have you set ffdshow to hande VC-1? If your source is VC-1, you may want to set ffdshow to let wmv9 handle it, instead of its own libavcodec.

Thanks asarian...I appreciate all your help here too. Tropic Thunder is actually AVC though, and like I said, the weird thing is that XVID4PSP is able to encode the video no problem. I just don't know what is happening during the demuxing process that is generating the macroblocking.

Also, what tool does RipBot use during the demux? I know that in one of the later versions of RipBot that I used for months and months before the current iteration -- I believe it was 1.10.4 -- would actually demux the the video stream to an mkv during the demuxing process. Now, I only see eac3to.exe as an active app during the demux. Is RipBot handling it differently now, and is that possibly the culprit?

ZappoB
17th December 2008, 17:26
No many have asked but none have succeeded in this particular request.. Good luck..

You can always do it manual way with mkvtoolnix
Thank you for this tip! Easy to use and does, what I expected!
:thanks:

asarian
17th December 2008, 18:32
Thanks asarian...I appreciate all your help here too. Tropic Thunder is actually AVC though, and like I said, the weird thing is that XVID4PSP is able to encode the video no problem. I just don't know what is happening during the demuxing process that is generating the macroblocking.

Also, what tool does RipBot use during the demux? I know that in one of the later versions of RipBot that I used for months and months before the current iteration -- I believe it was 1.10.4 -- would actually demux the the video stream to an mkv during the demuxing process. Now, I only see eac3to.exe as an active app during the demux. Is RipBot handling it differently now, and is that possibly the culprit?

Way I recall, RipBot still muxes to an intermediate mkv, unless the source itself is mkv.

I doubt the demuxing causes it. But you could have a look at job1.avs (in the RipBot264temp dir) before you start the encoding, and see what file is being used. Since that new mkv (if any) is stored in/copied to the RipBot264temp dir, you could simply play from that location, and see whether the problem lies there.

Also, a sample would be useful; just a few seconds clip might go a long way towards others being able to check for themselves.

illestdomer2005
17th December 2008, 20:30
Way I recall, RipBot still muxes to an intermediate mkv, unless the source itself is mkv.

I doubt the demuxing causes it. But you could have a look at job1.avs (in the RipBot264temp dir) before you start the encoding, and see what file is being used. Since that new mkv (if any) is stored in/copied to the RipBot264temp dir, you could simply play from that location, and see whether the problem lies there.

Also, a sample would be useful; just a few seconds clip might go a long way towards others being able to check for themselves.

Yeah, like I said...I will try to get a sample out tonight or tomorrow. It's just been busy at work, and I just haven't gotten around to cutting a sample, but something is clearly happening between the pristine source file and whatever is played in the preview after demuxing. Of course, there are myriad variables.

b!uFm@3T3R
18th December 2008, 01:00
i think my post last page everyone missed it so can some one plz help

the problem is when ever ripbot is demuxing, at 99% this error comes up

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5519/26342714lk0.jpg

asarian
18th December 2008, 04:57
...

something is clearly happening between the pristine source file and whatever is played in the preview after demuxing. Of course, there are myriad variables.
If it's happening in the preview already, then clearly it's not a x264 issue, but related to ffdshow/AviSynth. The Preview mode is just an on-the-fly generated avs script, so as to show you what AviSynth will parse to x264.

illestdomer2005
18th December 2008, 05:24
If it's happening in the preview already, then clearly it's not a x264 issue, but related to ffdshow/AviSynth. The Preview mode is just an on-the-fly generated avs script, so as to show you what AviSynth will parse to x264.

I thought it might be an ffdshow issue, but it has happened on multiple builds now, and, like I said, Handbrake and XVID4PSP aren't producing this problem at all while RipBot is doing it every single time. I think you could be onto something re: AviSynth as I believe that XVID4PSP and Handbrake both have AviSynth built into their installer packages, thus, whatever AviSynth build I downloaded with would be exclusive to RipBot... I'll have to try that out.

hcour
18th December 2008, 09:33
Hello. I'm trying out your program for the first time, on a m2ts file. After it finishes the intial "Encoding Settings", MPC opens up and it hangs there, it just says "Opening" and doesn't get any further. Any help would be much appreciated.

I'm running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

asarian
18th December 2008, 13:26
Hello. I'm trying out your program for the first time, on a m2ts file. After it finishes the intial "Encoding Settings", MPC opens up and it hangs there, it just says "Opening" and doesn't get any further. Any help would be much appreciated.

I'm running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

Same issue:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1222910#post1222910

illestdomer2005
18th December 2008, 17:30
asarian,

I updated RipBot's x264 with the 1057 build from digital digest -- is this not an "official" release? -- AND installed ffdshow_rev2421_20081205_clsid. I checked the preview, and voila! No macroblocking! I'm not convinced that the ffdshow build was the issue, though, since Handbrake and XVID4PSP both created a solid video with the build that was giving RipBot trouble.

I am going to try to isolate the variable tonight and should be able to post a sample video as well.

asarian
19th December 2008, 01:18
asarian,

I updated RipBot's x264 with the 1057 build from digital digest -- is this not an "official" release? -- AND installed ffdshow_rev2421_20081205_clsid. I checked the preview, and voila! No macroblocking! I'm not convinced that the ffdshow build was the issue, though, since Handbrake and XVID4PSP both created a solid video with the build that was giving RipBot trouble.
Well, it simply can't be x264, as that isn't being used yet at the Preview stage; so it was either ffdshow, or the Haali media splitter. But since you haven't updated the latter, my money is on ffdshow. :)

illestdomer2005
19th December 2008, 05:24
Well, it simply can't be x264, as that isn't being used yet at the Preview stage; so it was either ffdshow, or the Haali media splitter. But since you haven't updated the latter, my money is on ffdshow. :)

I can't explain it, but after changing out x264, it worked! Keep in mind, I used the EXACT SAME ffdshow build when I encoded in Handbrake and XVID4PSP. Color me confused!

I highly recommend trying the new (1057) x264 and stable ffdshow build that came out yesterday. Also, if you're a Vista user, make sure you allow/unblock x264 when you replace the version that comes with RipBot. Good ole Microsoft doesn't trust that you know what you're doing... :rolleyes:

Asarian,

I appreciate all your help, buddy.

hcour
19th December 2008, 15:12
Same issue:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1222910#post1222910

That did it. Thanks much!

Blackwalker
20th December 2008, 05:44
hi, if i need to convert a "m2ts" file in a blu-ray disc structure, using RipBot 264 and
to resize it to fit in a 25gb blank blu-ray disk, i need only to set:
- output as "blu-ray disc"
- lock size to 25GB but i see this option only if i set "2-pass" and not if i set "CQ"...or i miss somthing?
- kbps...what i have to set here for a 25GB output blu-ray structure?

PLS, can you tell me which settings i have to use! :(



If the Audio of the movie is TRUE-HD i have to set X.X COPY STREEM?

....i still have to figure what mean "X.X COPY STREEM"...it leave the audio how it is or what?
(hope m english is not so bad)

or there is a fastest way to convert only the size of a blu-ray movie to fit into a 25GB blank disk?

tyvm and hope someone can help me! :)

vman9999
20th December 2008, 05:54
Hi everyone.

I'm new to the group and I'm very excited to be a member. I've been involved with video conversions for several years now but now diving into Blu-Ray source. I am converting from Blu-Ray to Apple TV and RipBot has to be one of the nicest and easyest programs that I've seen (Great Job!).

The video conversion is perfect but I have run into one snag with the audio. I am trying to get the best of both worlds when it comes to audio and I'm not sure how to do it with RipBot. As we know, AAC is only supported in an mp4 container but to get AAC+AC3 passthrough to work on an Apple TV you need to use an m4v container.

Is their anyway to do this with RipBot?

Thanks

Atak_Snajpera
20th December 2008, 13:43
m4v = mp4
and
m4a = mp4

vman9999
20th December 2008, 15:50
Thanks for the quick response however I'm still not clear if there are settings within RipBot to accomplish this or do I have to do this externally?

Thanks again.

jtheripper
20th December 2008, 18:25
hi, if i need to convert a "m2ts" file in a blu-ray disc structure, using RipBot 264 and
to resize it to fit in a 25gb blank blu-ray disk, i need only to set:
- output as "blu-ray disc"
- lock size to 25GB but i see this option only if i set "2-pass" and not if i set "CQ"...or i miss somthing?
- kbps...what i have to set here for a 25GB output blu-ray structure?

PLS, can you tell me which settings i have to use! :(



If the Audio of the movie is TRUE-HD i have to set X.X COPY STREEM?

....i still have to figure what mean "X.X COPY STREEM"...it leave the audio how it is or what?
(hope m english is not so bad)

or there is a fastest way to convert only the size of a blu-ray movie to fit into a 25GB blank disk?

tyvm and hope someone can help me! :)

first ripbot will not handle dolby truhd properly due to tsmuxer. It will downconvert it to ac3 640kbps if you choose copy stream. It is best to choose no audio and choose a file size that is minus the HD audio you demuxed with eac3to and laso dont forget to allow some overhead for bluray file creation. If you have a dts hd master it will convert that to dts if you use copy stream. after you have created the downsized video in ripbot you will need to mux back the hd audio with the downsized video. However at this time using tsmuxer to do this works sometimes only, it will ruin the truhd audio usually. dts hd master is no problem. best to convert the truHD to lpcm using eac3to first, then see file size deduct that from 22GB and what is left use as video size in ripbot

Blackwalker
20th December 2008, 21:23
first ripbot will not handle dolby truhd properly due to tsmuxer. It will downconvert it to ac3 640kbps if you choose copy stream. It is best to choose no audio and choose a file size that is minus the HD audio you demuxed with eac3to and laso dont forget to allow some overhead for bluray file creation. If you have a dts hd master it will convert that to dts if you use copy stream. after you have created the downsized video in ripbot you will need to mux back the hd audio with the downsized video. However at this time using tsmuxer to do this works sometimes only, it will ruin the truhd audio usually. dts hd master is no problem. best to convert the truHD to lpcm using eac3to first, then see file size deduct that from 22GB and what is left use as video size in ripbot

ok, i think i have to "read and read and read and read" again what you say, my english is not so good but not so bad,
the problem is i'm still a noob about blu-ray conversion and i still have to use eac3to, so i need time to understand and check if
this work.

anyway, thx a lot for your help! :D

b66pak
20th December 2008, 21:58
Off topic:

@Atak_Snajpera your inbox is full!
_

Blackwalker
21st December 2008, 08:15
hope Atak_Snajpera'll make a new version soon.

...even if there are some little bugs, like the audio processing loop for each subtitle,
even if its still not "perfect", I'd like to make a donation so the developer can continue to make a better version:
There is a way to Donate some money to the developer?

thx =)

mmmmdonut
21st December 2008, 14:18
Thanks for the quick response however I'm still not clear if there are settings within RipBot to accomplish this or do I have to do this externally?

Thanks again.

If memory serves, what Apple did with AC3 was never in the mpeg4 spec which is why you see RB only allow you to use AAC when container is mp4.

If you want AC3, you will have to add it by hand as a secondary audio track.

vman9999
21st December 2008, 17:59
If memory serves, what Apple did with AC3 was never in the mpeg4 spec which is why you see RB only allow you to use AAC when container is mp4.

If you want AC3, you will have to add it by hand as a secondary audio track.

Yes, you are correct. I've been able to do this with Handbrake and it does allow for multiple audio channels in an m4v container. This works fine but the video is not quite as good as RipBot. There is a very very slight difference but I can see it. I guess I'm splitting hairs here but I'm spoiled after using RipBot.

I guess I'll give it a try manually and see what I get.

Thanks again.

hcour
21st December 2008, 21:16
Hope it's alright to make suggestions here. If possible, could you add a "Pause" option? Even on Low Priority it uses a lot of cpu, it'd be nice to be able to pause the program if something else cpu-intensive needed to be done. And thanks for a great program!

wakebrder
21st December 2008, 21:20
first ripbot will not handle dolby truhd properly due to tsmuxer. It will downconvert it to ac3 640kbps if you choose copy stream. It is best to choose no audio and choose a file size that is minus the HD audio you demuxed with eac3to and laso dont forget to allow some overhead for bluray file creation. If you have a dts hd master it will convert that to dts if you use copy stream. after you have created the downsized video in ripbot you will need to mux back the hd audio with the downsized video. However at this time using tsmuxer to do this works sometimes only, it will ruin the truhd audio usually. dts hd master is no problem. best to convert the truHD to lpcm using eac3to first, then see file size deduct that from 22GB and what is left use as video size in ripbot

Atak- Is there any way you could provide an option in the next version to not extract the DTS core and use the untouched DTS HD Master audio track instead? That way, we would not have to use the above procedure to retain DTS-HD master audio stream?

Thanks again for the great program.

valnar
22nd December 2008, 00:38
I haven't used Ripbot in awhile but just tried it again because I bought an iPod 5th gen (first iPod Video) and wanted to transcode a movie for it. I picked the level 3 ipod preset, changed video resolution to 320x240 and let her rip. The video came out small, sound was fine, everything looked good.

iTunes 8.02 didn't like it. It said it was not compatible. What am I missing? I've read some conflicting information on the web that it needed to be level 1.3 compliant instead. Is there anything else?

Dark Shikari
22nd December 2008, 00:41
I haven't used Ripbot in awhile but just tried it again because I bought an iPod 5th gen (first iPod Video) and wanted to transcode a movie for it. I picked the level 3 ipod preset, changed video resolution to 320x240 and let her rip. The video came out small, sound was fine, everything looked good.

iTunes 8.02 didn't like it. It said it was not compatible. What am I missing? I've read some conflicting information on the web that it needed to be level 1.3 compliant instead. Is there anything else?Level 3.0 preset is for iPod 5.5g and later.

Atak_Snajpera
22nd December 2008, 00:42
open ipod profile in notepad and change --level 3.0 to --level 1.3

valnar
22nd December 2008, 00:59
Thank you, and thank you.

Are there any other optimizations for this iPod other than the level change?

~bT~
22nd December 2008, 01:07
I haven't used Ripbot in awhile but just tried it again because I bought an iPod 5th gen (first iPod Video) and wanted to transcode a movie for it. I picked the level 3 ipod preset, changed video resolution to 320x240 and let her rip. The video came out small, sound was fine, everything looked good.

iTunes 8.02 didn't like it. It said it was not compatible. What am I missing? I've read some conflicting information on the web that it needed to be level 1.3 compliant instead. Is there anything else?
i have that same ipod & the new touch. ipod profile works fine.
are you using an old version of rb264?

decayed.cell
22nd December 2008, 02:22
Great program Atak, but would it be possible to have a mode that lets you select multiple files for batch processing using the same settings? Its just a bit painstaking to have to load each file one at a time for conversion :D

valnar
22nd December 2008, 03:41
Thank you, and thank you.

Are there any other optimizations for this iPod other than the level change?

I got it to "work". It played the video, but Ripbot doesn't understand anamorphic DVD sources? It was all stretched.

Blackwalker
22nd December 2008, 06:39
the "only" thing i'd like to see fixed soon is the loop with subtitles :(

Blackwalker
22nd December 2008, 07:38
well,
i used ripbot to make a 27GB movie (with a AC3 audio track) to fit ina 25GB blank bluray disc.
I set "2-pass", locksize 23000MB and i left bluray profile 4.0.

Video = perfect
Audio = perfect "BUT Very LOW" i mean the sound level is very low!

maybe i had to set profile 4.1?
some suggestion pls?

thx!

bbyers70
22nd December 2008, 20:48
Hi everyone.

I'm new to the group and I'm very excited to be a member. I've been involved with video conversions for several years now but now diving into Blu-Ray source. I am converting from Blu-Ray to Apple TV and RipBot has to be one of the nicest and easyest programs that I've seen (Great Job!).

The video conversion is perfect but I have run into one snag with the audio. I am trying to get the best of both worlds when it comes to audio and I'm not sure how to do it with RipBot. As we know, AAC is only supported in an mp4 container but to get AAC+AC3 passthrough to work on an Apple TV you need to use an m4v container.

Is their anyway to do this with RipBot?

Thanks
Very easy to use RipBot264 and have a file play on an AppleTV with Dolby 5.1 sound. This is what I do for mine. I use a Windows machine to create a MKV file with AC3 for sound.

Note: If you leave the audio set to xx.COPY STREAM the audio will be extremely quiet on playback. Be sure to choose the best (highest bitrate) audio stream for the desired language and set the bitrate to 448kbps at the most. 640kbps would not playback on my AppleTV.

For the video set the bitrate to 6860kbps, 2-pass mode, autocrop and resize to HD-READY 1280x720. 6860kbps is the maxium rate that AppleTV would support once the audio was muxed into the final file. I have tested this over and over and have made many non-compatiable files. I would waste your time on type to gain a few extra bits. Apple's support says that 5000kbps is the maximum bitrate and this is only a safe limit placed by Apple in order so they dont get any backlash from consumers.

Use the MKV container and encode your file. My Core2 DUO 3.0GHz takes about 8 hours to encode a typical 100min movie.

Now I move the large MKV file to my Mac and use Quicktime to finish the job.

On the Mac make sure you have Perian installed. This allows the Mac to "comprehind" the AC3 audio.

Open up the MKV file in Quicktime (this will take a few minutes to load). DO NOT PLAY the file once loaded. Now save the file as a MOV. File / Save As.

The file can now be loaded into iTunes and played on the AppleTV. The AppleTV (with firmware 2.3) will note on the screen that the movie is a HD movie by playing a HD logo next to the title.

Note: Tagging the MOV file will support all the same tags as the M4V counterpart with the exception of the MPAA rating. Loosing the MPAA rating logo was a tradeoff for me in order to have an HD movie with Dolby 5.1 sound.

Note: Use can also add an AAC track to the MOV file by using Quicktime. This will allow you to keep a single copy of the movie in the event you have a second and/or third AppleTV (like I do) that is not connected to an audio receiver. The second/third AppleTV is in our master bedroom and the kids play room.

bigggt
23rd December 2008, 01:35
Is there any setting or profile that will work with PSP and the new ipod touch

thanks

~bT~
23rd December 2008, 01:44
the ipod profile has worked for me.

bigggt
23rd December 2008, 02:28
thanks bt but the last time i tried the ipod profile it would not play on the PSP

jamd1
23rd December 2008, 03:01
Does anyone know if the recent PS3 updates have changed codecs that no longer support AAC audio with mp4?
Some of the Early Blurays I converted with ripbot to mp4 no longer play audio on my PS3. They worked fine several months ago???
I only make AVCHD's now.

mmmmdonut
23rd December 2008, 03:09
One thing to point out on Apple TV (version 2.3) and AAC+AC3 is if file is in mp4 format and is missing the AAC stream, then you get no audio.

illestdomer2005
23rd December 2008, 10:05
Great program Atak, but would it be possible to have a mode that lets you select multiple files for batch processing using the same settings? Its just a bit painstaking to have to load each file one at a time for conversion :D

That would be awesome. The lengthy load time as compared to XVID4PSP and Handbrake are really the only negatives about RipBot for me. Of course, how would you handle the crop setting? I guess as long as you selected "automatic" it could just apply that to each individual source...?

Anyhow, I would have loved to quickly set up a bunch of movies to encode over my vacation....and let her rip! ;)

illestdomer2005
23rd December 2008, 10:06
Does anyone know if the recent PS3 updates have changed codecs that no longer support AAC audio with mp4?
Some of the Early Blurays I converted with ripbot to mp4 no longer play audio on my PS3. They worked fine several months ago???
I only make AVCHD's now.

I haven't encoded a file small enough to actually play on the PS3. It still irritates me that we're limited to a max file size of 4GB.

illestdomer2005
23rd December 2008, 10:07
well,
i used ripbot to make a 27GB movie (with a AC3 audio track) to fit ina 25GB blank bluray disc.
I set "2-pass", locksize 23000MB and i left bluray profile 4.0.

Video = perfect
Audio = perfect "BUT Very LOW" i mean the sound level is very low!

maybe i had to set profile 4.1?
some suggestion pls?

thx!

Yeah, the volume is very low for me too...I am unaware of a place to change the level.

hekoheko
23rd December 2008, 13:21
Why doesnt RipBot DO anything, just skips to complete, I know someone asked it before but cant find the post...
I would use ripbot to add black borders to 1920x816 or similar movies to achieve standard blu-ray resolution...

Atak_Snajpera
23rd December 2008, 13:41
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1222910#post1222910

Does anyone know if the recent PS3 updates have changed codecs that no longer support AAC audio with mp4?
Some of the Early Blurays I converted with ripbot to mp4 no longer play audio on my PS3. They worked fine several months ago???
I only make AVCHD's now.
I have no problems with v2.53

Blackwalker
23rd December 2008, 21:02
Yeah, the volume is very low for me too...I am unaware of a place to change the level.

Atak any solution about this? thx!

Atak_Snajpera
23rd December 2008, 21:06
Instead of Copy stream select AC3 640 kbps

wolfbane5
23rd December 2008, 21:13
I've been using RipBot264 (latest version 1.11.5?) recently, creating mkv's of a few movies from my collection. Just recently a problem occurred and it doesn't seem to go away. I've been using the guide posted on videohelp.com to create the mkv's and normally Pass 1 takes 2.5-3.5 hours and Pass 2 takes anywhere from 8-11 hrs, depending on size, length, frames, etc. Anyway, recently I started encoding The Incredible Hulk and instead of taking a few hours for Pass 1, it only took 30 mins. I looked back and it was only giving me 20-30 kbps and about 100 fps. I don't know what happened here, but I also tried encoding Blood Diamond and the same issue came up. Any help would be appreciated.

By the way, I have been using the High@L4.1 profile with 5 Ref frames (no other changes to the profile), if that helps.

Atak_Snajpera
23rd December 2008, 21:20
Do you get picture in Preview?

By the way, I have been using the High@L4.1 profile with 5 Reframes (no other changes to the profile), if that helps.
5 ref frames are probably to high for level 4.1 1080p. However it's ok for 720p.

wolfbane5
23rd December 2008, 22:12
Yes, I do get picture in preview. I'm a bit of a quality nut, hence the 5 Ref frames. Any more than 5, the quality difference is marginal. I've been creating 720p rips, not 1080p just to clarify. Guess I forgot to mention that in my previous post. :S