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stryker412
10th September 2009, 14:03
Has anyone ripped a BD TV show? I'm just curious if each episode is generally its own m2ts file?

dbone1026
10th September 2009, 14:10
Has anyone ripped a BD TV show? I'm just curious if each episode is generally its own m2ts file?

If you are unsure use either CLown_BD or MakeMKV, but Ripbot will show you the playlists as well (see post here - http://dbone1026.blogspot.com/2009/07/ripping-episodes-from-tv-series-dvd.html)

thaiboxer
10th September 2009, 14:29
Did you take a look at the log file to see the last step when it's using tsmuxer and removing empty directories?

where can i find the log files after its completed? Is it in the ripbot temp folder and then the job folder?

hoju3508
10th September 2009, 15:23
It's in your Ripbot264v1.14.3\Logs\job[n]_log.txt (I'm using the latest version).

You should see something like this at the end of the log file -


C:\>"C:\RipBot264v1.14.3\tools\tsmuxer\tsmuxer.exe" "C:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\tsmuxer.meta" "C:\Temp\crank.AVCHD"
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding DTS stream (track 2): Bitrate: 1536Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1
Decoding PGS stream (track 3): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Processed 137877 video frames
Creation of AVCHD playlist
Creation of AVCHD stream info and seek index
Muxing time: 5 min 2 sec

C:\>rd "C:\Temp\crank.AVCHD\CERTIFICATE\BACKUP"

C:\>rd "C:\Temp\crank.AVCHD\CERTIFICATE"

C:\>rd "C:\Temp\crank.AVCHD\BDMV\AUXDATA"

C:\>rd "C:\Temp\crank.AVCHD\BDMV\BDJO"

C:\>rd "C:\Temp\crank.AVCHD\BDMV\JAR"

C:\>rd "C:\Temp\crank.AVCHD\BDMV\META"


You can set your output destination in your RipBot264.ini file.

Cheers,

-Hoju

where can i find the log files after its completed? Is it in the ripbot temp folder and then the job folder?

Ajax_Undone
10th September 2009, 18:23
You will need to uninstall previous versions before you install this one.
Other then that I have done some miner tweaks and improvements. So it Might be buggy

PM me with any concerns...

And as always you can find the link in my signature...:rolleyes:

stryker412
10th September 2009, 19:05
If you want to convert a BD into a standard mkv with a DTS (non-HD) soundtrack, how can I do that? What codec allows you to do this?

dbone1026
10th September 2009, 19:58
If you want to convert a BD into a standard mkv with a DTS (non-HD) soundtrack, how can I do that? What codec allows you to do this?

What do you mean a standard mkv? You can use MakeMKV which will extract the core audio from the DTS-MA track, just leaving a DTS track. There is no encoding with MakeMKV like you do with Ripbot

slow4mula
10th September 2009, 21:55
i've used ripbot264 for almost a year now and i want to start doing bluray to avchd backups while keeping hd audio (dts-hd/true hd/etc.) in the form of lpcm or just stream copy with transcoded video to fit either dvd-dl (rarely) or mostly bd-r (for movies i really want to keep great video/audio quality).

i've been messing around the last few days and i got one bluray to work with lpcm by using stream copy in ripbot (nin beside you in time halo 22), but every other source i try upon muxing tsmuxer is throwing lpcm stream sync errors and it never muxes into avchd structure. also i see that ripbot downsamples from 24 bit to 16 bit when doing lpcm.

i tried using clownbd (eac3to) to extract the hd audio tracks and it works fine 24bit lpcm in .wav or w64 form, but if i try to add just a raw h264 stream and then the 24bit lpcm i get using clownbd it just sits there when trying to load the video source. even if that worked ripbot would just output a .wav that tsmuxer will reject. i tried exporting just video/hd audio into a .ts file from clownbd and it loads in ripbot264 fine, but there is no "copy stream" option in ripbot when loading lpcm in this method, it runs it through eac3to again.

is there any way to make this work? i just want to transcode the video to fit a dvd-dl/bd-r with lpcm 5.1 or 7.1 audio in avchd structure to play on my ps3.

i used clownbd to make a avchd structure with batman begins hd-dvd (original video/audio dolby true-hd) and burned it to bd-r and it works fine on my ps3, but it is smaller than 25gb.

is there a way ripbot264 can use the same eac3to settings as clownbd while allowing me to transcode the video to fit bd-r?


thanks.

stryker412
10th September 2009, 22:14
What do you mean a standard mkv? You can use MakeMKV which will extract the core audio from the DTS-MA track, just leaving a DTS track. There is no encoding with MakeMKV like you do with Ripbot

Sorry I wasn't aware how DTS-MA tracks worked. I use ripbot because it is the only program (I know of) that will resize to 720p. I wasn't aware a DTS track is inside of a DTS-MA track.

Atak_Snajpera
10th September 2009, 22:45
Sorry I wasn't aware how DTS-MA tracks worked. I use ripbot because it is the only program (I know of) that will resize to 720p. I wasn't aware a DTS track is inside of a DTS-MA track.
If you don't have Arcsoft DTS-HD decoder installed then you get DTS-core (1,5Mbps)
If you have above decoder installed then you get DTS-MA decompressed to .wav or .flac
Decompressed audio can be converted to AC3 640 kbps (the same quality as DTS 1,5Mbps but 2.35 times smaller size)

stryker412
10th September 2009, 22:51
I'm still having issues with VC1 movies crashing x264. I'm using the x264.exe you told me to replace.

kikker
10th September 2009, 22:52
You will need to uninstall previous versions before you install this one.
Other then that I have done some miner tweaks and improvements. So it Might be buggy

PM me with any concerns...

And as always you can find the link in my signature...:rolleyes:

What would be the advantage of using an installer for Ripbot? Do you have all the other required apps wrapped up in the installer?

stryker412
11th September 2009, 01:04
I tried the new version Atak posted this morning. I'm still getting crashing on VC1 titles. I take it I'm the only one?

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2893/captureok.png

Just got another type of error:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4673/capturepr.th.png (http://img186.imageshack.us/i/capturepr.png/)

Ajax_Undone
11th September 2009, 03:47
What would be the advantage of using an installer for Ripbot? Do you have all the other required apps wrapped up in the installer?

Yes for the most part...

8ternity
11th September 2009, 04:17
Hi Atak,

Trouble.... again.
Version 1.14.1 with ffdshow clsid r3069
here the trouble i have

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/Other/th_2009-09-10-Snapshot.jpg (http://s480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/8ternity/Other/?action=view&current=2009-09-10-Snapshot.jpg)

9 minutes audio track....:confused::confused:

Atak_Snajpera
11th September 2009, 10:28
Version 1.14.1 with ffdshow clsid r3069
Since when 1.14.1 is the latest version?

Just got another type of error:
There is problem with patched x264 32bit
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1324208#post1324208

stryker412
11th September 2009, 11:31
There is problem with patched x264 32bit
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1324208#post1324208

Do you know why it was crashing on VC1 titles before the patch though? I have an AVC title that I'll test today just to be sure but I'm almost positive x264 only crashes on VC1 titles. Thanks for the update though, hopefully they'll fix whatever issue it is.

stryker412
11th September 2009, 12:17
replace old x264_x86.exe with new one http://jeeb.fiveforty.jp/x264/1235/x264.exe

I replaced the new x264 (with C++ errors) with this one and so far no crash.

kikker
11th September 2009, 22:33
Atak,

If I have a TV series BD title with multiple episodes, each with its own playlist and list of streams, it would be just lovely if the workflow could be streamlined a bit. You see, when I try to queue up each episode one by one, Ripbot needs to re-analyze the entire BD for the playlist/stream structure for each of the episodes I add. It seems as if that should only have to take place before for the first job. In other words, if there are 4 episodes on the disc, one must wait for both the disc analysis and the demuxing for each of the 4 episodes added to the queue. Everything else is just great!

stryker412
12th September 2009, 00:06
Atak, your new 1.14.4 combined with the custom x264.exe you supplied me before so far has been working great. I've done one movie and 50% 1st pass on another with no crashes.

slow4mula
12th September 2009, 02:45
can we get working lpcm .wav from dolby true-hd?

CyberTron88
12th September 2009, 03:11
Had the same problem with the x264_x86 not working error too with 1.14.4 too... 1.14.2 was fine though.

MAFiA
12th September 2009, 03:27
I am currently useing windows 7 32 bit version and RipBot 1.14.3 and i was wondering if you have a fix for an issue i am having. It stops at the stage "Please Wait... Gathering Information..." i was just wondering if you knew how to fix this issue. Thanks in advance.

stryker412
12th September 2009, 03:36
Had the same problem with the x264_x86 not working error too with 1.14.4 too... 1.14.2 was fine though.

Overwrite the x264x86.exe with this one

http://jeeb.fiveforty.jp/x264/1235/x264.exe

nekrosoft13
12th September 2009, 05:17
Overwrite the x264x86.exe with this one

http://jeeb.fiveforty.jp/x264/1235/x264.exe

will this fix this error?

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: x264_x86.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4aa75e14
Fault Module Name: msvcrt.dll
Fault Module Version: 7.0.7600.16385
Fault Module Timestamp: 4a5bda6f
Exception Code: 40000015
Exception Offset: 00066804
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.274.10
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 7fad
Additional Information 2: 7fadfdb6467bb501f896dbe199440da5
Additional Information 3: ab40
Additional Information 4: ab409ad0c6da7690a6de05cb2d572f9e

Read our privacy statement online:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt


it gets to about 1-2% pass and crash, ripbot 1.14.3 was fine

fahim
12th September 2009, 06:45
I encoded a hd movie in mkv,in start it works good,but after few seconds lots of frames comes on video & picture quality becomes bad,
any help????

stryker412
12th September 2009, 14:01
will this fix this error?



it gets to about 1-2% pass and crash, ripbot 1.14.3 was fine

I have no idea but it did fix my issues. Just make sure to rename the existing x264 in case it doesn't work but at this point if the original doesn't work at all, what can it hurt?

slow4mula
12th September 2009, 17:21
other people are having issues going from blu-ray to avchd (bd-r size output) with transcoded video/lpcm (stream copy from dolby truehd)? i ALWAYS get an error when tsmuxer tries to mux the transcoded video/lcpm audio (lpcm bad frame detected).

clownbd works fine created a lcpm .wav from truehd that tsmuxer will accept. here are logs from clownbd (can we get the same lpcm audio handling in ripbot264)?

eac3to v3.16
command line: "C:\Program Files\Clown_BD_v0.66\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "C:\Tasks\TRANSFORMERS" -LOG="C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\eac3to_PASS1_LOG.LOG"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) FEATURE_1.EVO+FEATURE_2.EVO, 2:23:19
"Main Movie"
- h264/AVC, 1080p (16:9)
- VC-1, 480p (16:9)
- E-AC3, English, 5.1, 48khz
- E-AC3, French, 5.1, 48khz
- E-AC3, Spanish, 5.1, 48khz
- E-AC3, English, 2.0, 48khz, "Director Commentary"

2) TRAILER_IRONMAN.EVO, 0:02:28
"IronMan"
- h264/AVC, 1080p (16:9)
- E-AC3, English, 5.1, 48khz

3) TRAILER_TEASER.EVO, 0:01:53
"Teaser Trailer"
- h264/AVC, 1080p (16:9)
- E-AC3, English, 5.1, 48khz

4) TRAILER_AUTOBOTS.EVO, 0:01:14
"Trailer3"
- h264/AVC, 1080p (16:9)
- E-AC3, English, 2.0, 48khz







eac3to v3.16
command line: "C:\Program Files\Clown_BD_v0.66\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "C:\Tasks\TRANSFORMERS" 1) -LOG="C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\eac3to_PASS2_LOG.LOG"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 2 video tracks, 5 audio tracks, 8 subtitle tracks, 2:23:26
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 23 chapters with names
3: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: VC-1, 480p30 /1.001 (3:2), -84ms
5: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
6: E-AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
7: E-AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
8: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
"Director Commentary"
9: E-AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -111ms
10: Subtitle (DVD), English
11: Subtitle (DVD), English, "SDH"
12: Subtitle (DVD), French
13: Subtitle (DVD), Spanish
14: Subtitle (DVD), Portuguese
15: Subtitle (DVD), French, "Forced"
16: Subtitle (DVD), Spanish, "Forced"
17: Subtitle (DVD), English, "HUD Trivia Track"





eac3to v3.16
command line: "C:\Program Files\Clown_BD_v0.66\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "C:\Tasks\TRANSFORMERS" 1) 2: "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Chapters_2.txt" 3: "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Video_3.*" 5: "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Audio_5_English.WAV" -LOG="C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\eac3to_PASS3_LOG.LOG"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 2 video tracks, 5 audio tracks, 8 subtitle tracks, 2:23:26
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 23 chapters with names
3: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: VC-1, 480p30 /1.001 (3:2), -84ms
5: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
6: E-AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
7: E-AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
8: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
"Director Commentary"
9: E-AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -111ms
10: Subtitle (DVD), English
11: Subtitle (DVD), English, "SDH"
12: Subtitle (DVD), French
13: Subtitle (DVD), Spanish
14: Subtitle (DVD), Portuguese
15: Subtitle (DVD), French, "Forced"
16: Subtitle (DVD), Spanish, "Forced"
17: Subtitle (DVD), English, "HUD Trivia Track"
Creating file "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Chapters_2.txt"...
[a05] The Nero decoder doesn't seem to work, will use libav instead.
[v03] Extracting video track number 3...
[a05] Extracting audio track number 5...
[v03] Removing h264 pulldown...
[a05] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a05] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a05] Remapping channels...
[a05] Applying RAW/PCM delay...
[a05] Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
[a05] Writing WAV...
[a05] Creating file "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Audio_5_English.WAV"...
[v03] Creating file "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Video_3.h264"...
[a05] Clipping detected, a 2nd pass will be necessary. <WARNING>
[a05] Caution: The WAV file is bigger than 4GB. <WARNING>
[a05] Some WAV readers might not be able to handle this file correctly. <WARNING>
[a05] Starting 2nd pass...
[a05] Extracting audio track number 5...
[a05] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a05] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a05] Remapping channels...
[a05] Applying RAW/PCM delay...
[a05] Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
[a05] Writing WAV...
[a05] Creating file "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Audio_5_English.WAV"...
[a05] Caution: The WAV file is bigger than 4GB. <WARNING>
[a05] Some WAV readers might not be able to handle this file correctly. <WARNING>
Video track 3 contains 206368 frames.
Video track 4 contains 243564 frames.
eac3to processing took 29 minutes, 13 seconds.
Done.






eac3to v3.16
command line: "C:\Program Files\Clown_BD_v0.66\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Audio_5_English.WAV" "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Audio_5_English.W64" -LOG="C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\eac3to_(Stream_5_English_.WAV_to_.W64_Conversion)_LOG.LOG"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WAV, 5.1 channels, 2:23:27, 24 bits, 6912kbps, 48khz
Reading WAV...
Writing W64...
Creating file "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Audio_5_English.W64"...
The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits.
eac3to processing took 5 minutes, 4 seconds.
Done.






"conversion.meta"
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Video_3.h264", insertSEI, contSPS
A_LPCM, "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Audio_5_English.W64", lang=eng







Command Line="C:\Program Files\Clown_BD_v0.66\tsMuxeR\tsMuxeR.exe" "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Conversion\Conversion.meta" "C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Output\Conversion.M2TS"

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame
H.264 muxing fps not set. Get fps from stream.
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
0.0% complete
Decoding LPCM stream (track 2): Bitrate: 6912Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels:
100.0% complete
Processed 206368 video frames
100.0% complete
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 15 min 25 sec

slow4mula
12th September 2009, 18:18
it just dawned upon me i can use clownbd to produce a tsmuxer compatible lpcm .wav and then launch ripbot, let it demux also, and then just feed it the .wav created from clownbd and stream copy while still having ripbot calc size and transcode video.

i'm doing transformers hd-dvd but i figure it should work, then i will do the dark knight blu-ray

EpheMeroN
12th September 2009, 20:22
So I installed latest RipBot264 right now and it says it needs ffdshow rev3065 or higher. How is this possible? ffdshow tryouts latest build is 3054. I don't see a higher revision anywhere.

hoju3508
12th September 2009, 20:53
Latest version:
r3069 2009-09-07 (Sep 03, 2009)

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ffdshow

So I installed latest RipBot264 right now and it says it needs ffdshow rev3065 or higher. How is this possible? ffdshow tryouts latest build is 3054. I don't see a higher revision anywhere.

EpheMeroN
12th September 2009, 21:07
Hmmmmm thanks!

Surprised it's not showing up on the sourceforge page, but VideoHelp has it!

hoju3508
12th September 2009, 21:57
Need more info...:rolleyes:

What's your final bit rate? Is it compressed to a DVD5, DVD9 or BD-25?


I encoded a hd movie in mkv,in start it works good,but after few seconds lots of frames comes on video & picture quality becomes bad,
any help????

prettyboy85712
12th September 2009, 23:50
I encoded a hd movie in mkv,in start it works good,but after few seconds lots of frames comes on video & picture quality becomes bad,
any help????

A logfile would help.

prettyboy85712
12th September 2009, 23:52
Latest version:
r3069 2009-09-07 (Sep 03, 2009)

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ffdshow

The latest version is r3072: LINK (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/)

deets
13th September 2009, 10:11
im about to convert the england V croatia HD game. Im going to stick with 1080p 50fps and i want to make it ps3/xbox 360 compatible.

i intend using mp4. anything i should be aware of, ie aac being an issue (only has 2 channel sound) or bit rates to keep below and such?

Atak_Snajpera
13th September 2009, 11:53
Im going to stick with 1080p 50fps and i want to make it ps3/xbox 360 compatible.

i intend using mp4. anything i should be aware of, ie aac being an issue (only has 2 channel sound) or bit rates to keep below and such?
1080p 50fps will only work on PS3 (level 4.2). Xbox360 does not support level 4.2!

@slow4mula
I will add extra conversion from.wav to .w64 later. At the moment I'm in Poland on holidays.

Killerattacks
13th September 2009, 12:53
I've got 2 questions regarding ripbot264.

1. Batchconversions. When I have a couple of Videofiles who have all the same properties and I want to encode them all with exactly the same settings, is there any way to accomplish thatexcept for using "add" for each file individually?

2. I'm using Win7, the latest ripbot version and when I add a video ripbot never finishes the "Please wait... Gathering information step..." Any ideas?

sennan
13th September 2009, 13:36
CheckRequiredSoftware=0

does this not work anymore? I can't get 14.4 working under Windows 7 x64 because I can't get around the software check.

sennan
13th September 2009, 13:54
Nevermind, I got around it by installing the 32bit versions to the x64 Program Files folder.

8ternity
13th September 2009, 22:11
Since when 1.14.1 is the latest version?


There is problem with patched x264 32bit
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1324208#post1324208

mistype is 1.14.4 version. i test with 3 movies and samething. If i just change ripbot264 to ver 1.15.1 and left ffdshow ver, everythung is ok. samething with my new processor update.

thanks.

slow4mula
13th September 2009, 23:19
1080p 50fps will only work on PS3 (level 4.2). Xbox360 does not support level 4.2!

@slow4mula
I will add extra conversion from.wav to .w64 later. At the moment I'm in Poland on holidays.


thanks. i've been extracting the untouched truehd/dts-ma hd tracks the last day and muxing them with transcoded video with your app and just setting the size appropriately in ripbot264 and manually muxing with tsmuxer.

maybe it would be more useful to allow keeping the untouched true-hd/dts-ma hd tracks than converting to pcm through ripbot?

raisinberry777
13th September 2009, 23:29
Is it possibly to manually change the audo profiles in Ripbot like with the video profiles, or are we stuck with the options Ripbot gives us?

QUEENFAN
14th September 2009, 05:54
Good Morning,

I have a problem encoding HD-DVD-material using the HIGH 4 profile..
There is a green marging at the bottom of the picture. You can see another stripe with blurred color over the black bottom margin.
How can I avoid this ?

Thanks alot for your help.

Nkotok
14th September 2009, 21:25
thanks. i've been extracting the untouched truehd/dts-ma hd tracks the last day and muxing them with transcoded video with your app and just setting the size appropriately in ripbot264 and manually muxing with tsmuxer.

maybe it would be more useful to allow keeping the untouched true-hd/dts-ma hd tracks than converting to pcm through ripbot?

That is what I was planning to try. How are your results? Any audio delays or other problems with playability?

kikker
14th September 2009, 22:53
Is this because Ripbot cannot (or will not) mux the TrueHD into an MKV? It would be helpful to know what is and is not allowed as far as audio goes with some sort of chart and what can be wrapped into what container. Also, why do people need the TMT DTS-MA decoder when ffdshow can do it now?

mackworth
14th September 2009, 23:05
Is this because Ripbot cannot (or will not) mux the TrueHD into an MKV? It would be helpful to know what is and is not allowed as far as audio goes with some sort of chart and what can be wrapped into what container. Also, why do people need the TMT DTS-MA decoder when ffdshow can do it now?

ffdshow can't actually decode the DTS-MA, it just decodes the regular dts core, not the -MA part.

bbyers70
14th September 2009, 23:40
Ripbot is a great tool but I do on occasion get errors with mp4box during the muxing stage. This problem does not happen with every movie but when it does, it doesnt matter what machine it was encoded on it always fails during the muxing stage.

I'm using the AppleTV preset with a video bitrate 6144 and audio set to 448 AC3. I will let ripbot264 complete the encode and mux it to a mkv file. The mkv is discarded since the appletv cannot read it. While the newly created audio.ac3 and video.264 files are still in the temp folder I use MP4Box to create a *.m4v file. I've know this work as I have done this over a hundred times in the past with videos on the appletv to prove it.

MP4Box supports the import of AC3 streams now. I'm using the example of a mp4 muxing that RipBot264 uses in the job1_MuxFiles.cmd file. I just remove the chapters section, since those types of chapters are not supported by the appletv, and the rename of the audio and output file names.

Example of mux command line.
"C:\Program Files\RipBot264\tools\mp4box\mp4box.exe" -tmp "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp" -ipod -brand M4VH:1 -add "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\video.264" -fps 23.976 -add "C:\Temp\RipBot264temp\audio.ac3":lang=eng -mpeg4 -new "C:\Movies\New Movie (HD).m4v"

Attached is a screenshot of the MP4Box error.

I appriciate any help on this. It only happens on about 1 out of every 20 encodes.

Thanks.

nekrosoft13
15th September 2009, 01:14
I have no idea but it did fix my issues. Just make sure to rename the existing x264 in case it doesn't work but at this point if the original doesn't work at all, what can it hurt?

that worked, all good now ;)

slow4mula
15th September 2009, 01:52
That is what I was planning to try. How are your results? Any audio delays or other problems with playability?

nope it works pretty good actually. i've done two blurays with dts-ma hd and a few old hd-dvd discs and one bluray with dolby truehd and they all play fine on my ps3 without issue no audio sync issues at all. standalone players should play them fine as well i would think, but i dunno i don't see the point of a standalone blu-ray player over a ps3.

1. i just use clownbd to rip out the dts-ma hd/dolby true hd audio track from the source

2. input the bluray rip as usual into ripbot and select no audio.

3. i subtract the size of unaltered audio track from 23830mb (bd-r size preset in ripbot) and select two pass and input this value into ripbot so i don't have to calculate it myself. i would factor in ~200mb additional to the size of the audio track to make sure you don't transcode too large of a video track. i did a couple movies where the resulting video track was a little too large after muxing with the unaltered audio track and i had to cut some of the credits with tsmuxer or re-encode the video track again.

3. mux the video track from ripbot and the unaltered hd audio stream with tsmuxer to bluray and burn to bd-r.

bd-r discs are coming down in price, i've seen name brand stuff dip below $3.00 in quantities of 15, so for a movie i want a good backup of i am willing to spend a few bucks (plus some in electricity lol with these twp core i7 setups i have).

atak could add this functionality pretty easy i would think so it is as simple as creating a dvd-dl backup using ac3 5.1/dts 5.1 audio. it would be cool to see that happen since there is no reason to convert to lpcm for all hd audio sources. it just wastes space and possibly could lose quality. it also makes incompatible lpcm tracks that tsmuxer errors out on with sync issues. that is why it just dawned upon me to use the unaltered hd audio instead of converting it to lpcm. the only benefit i see to lpcm is it might be more widely compatible to some standalone bluray players? i know ripbot will always take 24 bit hd audio and downsample it to 16 bit to save space, but why even do that? also if you just mux the original hd audio track you don't have to screw with installing any kind of dts-ma hd decoder like arcsoft because you aren't converting to lpcm.

i would love to see ripbot just load a bluray playlist with the option to truly stream copy the dts-ma hd/true hd tracks and just transcode the video without using multiple tools. all clownbd is comprised of is eac3to and tsmuxer (i believe). this will truly be the optimal method as bd-r media continues to fall in price. even every 7.1 dts-ma hd track i have seen is only 5-7gb, so that still leaves a great deal of room for the transcoded video.

the only drawback with manually muxing with this method is you lose the chapter points, so the default is 5min intervals after this, but i don't really care about that at all...i think the predefined chapter points are pretty useless and would rather have fixed intervals. i'm sure there is probably a way to keep original chapter points with tsmuxer, but i could care less.

and just imho i still liked hd-dvd better as a format over blu-ray. honestly you don't need near 50gb of space for a damn movie. 30gb is more than sufficient with a good 1080p encode and writeable hd-dvd dl would probably been cheaper than bd-r.

i just did the king kong hd-dvd -> bd-r with this method and to me it is one of the best looking movies ever to be released on either format. it fits comfortably on a 30gb hd-dvd with hd audio and it is over 3 hours of runtime. i still wish hd-dvd was around so we might have gotten cheaper writeable 30gb discs. oh well.

here is my vote for true stream copying of hd audio tracks with ripbot :)

with a blu-ray to bd-r backup keeping the original audio track intact my original blu-ray could burn in a fire and i wouldn't feel like i really lost anything :) for $3 bucks and some time that is definately worth it to me.

again thanks atak for writing such a bomb gui/application. we all appreciate it!