RipBot264 v1.18.3 - Simple and easy to use GUI -> IPOD . PSP . CONSOLES . BLURAY [Archive] - Page 384

guest

19th June 2021, 02:47

4K @ 15/20 fps ;)
Here h265 4K to h265 1080p

https://i.goopics.net/800/w9AgR.jpg (https://goopics.net/i/w9AgR)

That screenshot doesn't really prove a thing !!!

You don't mention what settings you're using, or filters, just "h265 4K to h265 1080p", and is that with the 3930K ???

Who knows..and why aren't you using Distributed Encoding ??

Tell me your settings, and I will do a test on my 3950X for you..

guest

19th June 2021, 02:50

i7 3930k :(

https://i.goopics.net/800/gYy4J.jpg (https://goopics.net/i/gYy4J)

Intel Core i7-3930K @ 3.2GHz ( 6C / 12T )

y4m [info]: 1920x1080 fps 50/1 i420p8 sar 1:1 unknown frame count
raw [info]: output file: NUL
x265 [info]: HEVC encoder version 2.2+15-a18ab7656c30
x265 [info]: build info [Windows][GCC 6.2.0][64 bit] 8bit
x265 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX
x265 [info]: Main Still Picture profile, Level-4.1 (Main tier)
x265 [info]: Thread pool created using 12 threads
x265 [info]: Slices : 1
x265 [info]: frame threads / pool features : 3 / wpp(17 rows)
x265 [info]: Coding QT: max CU size, min CU size : 64 / 8
x265 [info]: Residual QT: max TU size, max depth : 32 / 1 inter / 1 intra
x265 [info]: ME / range / subpel / merge : hex / 57 / 2 / 2
x265 [info]: Keyframe min / max / scenecut / bias: 50 / 500 / 40 / 5.00
x265 [info]: Lookahead / bframes / badapt : 20 / 4 / 2
x265 [info]: b-pyramid / weightp / weightb : 1 / 1 / 0
x265 [info]: References / ref-limit cu / depth : 3 / on / on
x265 [info]: AQ: mode / str / qg-size / cu-tree : 1 / 1.0 / 32 / 1
x265 [info]: Rate Control / qCompress : CRF-28.0 / 0.60
x265 [info]: tools: rd=3 psy-rd=2.00 rskip signhide tmvp strong-intra-smoothing
x265 [info]: tools: lslices=6 deblock sao

encoded 2500 frames in 202.16s (12.37 fps), 7025.74 kbps, Avg QP:37.21

Results please send to: x264.fhd.benchmark@gmail.com

We seem to have a bit of a pissing contest going on here...I get it, you both have pretty basic cpu's.

Also, what's the go with that VERY old x265 build ???

x265 [info]: HEVC encoder version 2.2+15-a18ab7656c30

"We're" up to 3.5 + 10 !!!!, that could even make a difference !!!

guest

19th June 2021, 06:07

Hey guy's,

So now that Atak has provided us with some recent updates, you still have to run the updates to get to the current version.

So I have started with 1.26.0 from page 1, and then downloaded & installed ALL the available updates, so that you can just start using v1.26.1, straight off.

So anyone interested, it's here for the taking, this is legit, and updated, untouched v1.26.1.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ox6da3k67bipcly/RipBot264v1.26.1.7z/file

However, if you would like to try my very modified v1.26.1, that has the majority of the components that RipBot uses, all running with the latest available versions & builds, not to mention many, many, more filters, for DeHaloing, Denoising, DeBlocking, Deinterlacing, etc. I've been working on this for a few months, and have been using without issue.

So if you want to give that a try, then grab it here :-

https://www.mediafire.com/file/axhu7qkfy4w4vzl/RipBot264v1.26.1_%2528special%2529.7z/file

DO NOT forget to read the "instructions" !!!!

And check out the Tools listing to see what you get, and most of the "extra" filters are found under the "Custom Script" drop down.

Atak_Snajpera

19th June 2021, 12:46

"We're" up to 3.5 + 10 !!!!, that could even make a difference !!!
Plot twist: newer builds are even slower !!!

Ryushin

19th June 2021, 12:52

Hi Atak,

I've been having a memory error from x265 since the latest update:
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x265_x64.exe - Application Error
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The instruction at 0x00007FF701D6E902 referenced memory at 0x0000000000020000. The memory could not be written.

Click on OK to terminate the program
---------------------------

Same VM system that has been running for years with ECC memory. Did not install any windows updates in the last week or so. Only the RB update has occurred, but I'm not sure if it was this last update, or the update before that.

Atak_Snajpera

19th June 2021, 13:20

Just to be 100% sure ,can you run memtest on that PC?
https://www.memtest.org/#downiso

Maybe you are running out of memory? (physical/virtual on that VM)

frencher

19th June 2021, 14:30

That screenshot doesn't really prove a thing !!!

You don't mention what settings you're using, or filters, just "h265 4K to h265 1080p", and is that with the 3930K ???

Who knows..and why aren't you using Distributed Encoding ??

Tell me your settings, and I will do a test on my 3950X for you..

I will have specified if I had changed my config (I7 3930k) and I just applied a resize from {GPU} 4k h265 to Full HD h265 (1080p).
Indeed I will be interested in testing on your 3950X.
I did not find tutorials for distributed encoding

guest

19th June 2021, 14:34

Plot twist: newer builds are even slower !!!

I guess it would depend on your CPU instruction set,

Either SSE*, AVX, or AVX2, and another problem might be in a DE setup, if you had an AVX2 CPU on the client, and some servers were a mixture of SSE* or AVX, would there be a conflict or a problem ??

Your latest update brought the x265 build up to 5.9, but what instruction set do you use, to be more compatible with the different systems that users would have, you'd probably have to go for an SSE* type.

guest

19th June 2021, 14:40

I will have specified if I had changed my config (I7 3930k) and I just applied a resize from {GPU} 4k h265 to Full HD h265 (1080p).
Indeed I will be interested in testing on your 3950X.
I did not find tutorials for distributed encoding

OK, so if it's just a simple resize, I'd be happy to do a quick test on one of my 4K movies, but I will be using CPU decoding instead, but I might try the GPU option, not that that should affect the encoding fps's.

So give be a couple of days, I WILL get back to you, either here or PM.

As for DE, there aren't any active tutorials to be found, but it's kinda straight forward, there just a couple of settings to change & enable, and you're away.

Do you have more than 1 PC ???, if not, you can still use it on 1, and it will increase speeds.

guest

19th June 2021, 14:43

frencher

19th June 2021, 23:20

OK, so if it's just a simple resize, I'd be happy to do a quick test on one of my 4K movies, but I will be using CPU decoding instead, but I might try the GPU option, not that that should affect the encoding fps's.

So give be a couple of days, I WILL get back to you, either here or PM.

As for DE, there aren't any active tutorials to be found, but it's kinda straight forward, there just a couple of settings to change & enable, and you're away.

Do you have more than 1 PC ???, if not, you can still use it on 1, and it will increase speeds.

Hello Paul Dunne,
Rather here because it is possible that it also interests other people than me.
I would like to have the procedure to gain some fps because for the moment the budget for a Ryzen is not there.
I actually have 3 non-OC PCs
An Intel i7 3930k :cool:
An Intel E6700 :rolleyes:
An AMD 64 X2 :D

guest

20th June 2021, 01:47

Hello Paul Dunne,
Rather here because it is possible that it also interests other people than me.
I would like to have the procedure to gain some fps because for the moment the budget for a Ryzen is not there.
I actually have 3 non-OC PCs
An Intel i7 3930k :cool:
An Intel E6700 :rolleyes:
An AMD 64 X2 :D

OK, so "we" have a starting point at least :)

So the next and most important thing is, are these on a network ??

It doesn't need to be anything special, and I don't think wireless works (I could be wrong, I've never tried it).

Can't use DE on other PC's without them being connected.

And you're correct, there's NO tutorials around, the one that Atak posted many years ago isn't available anywhere, any more, and it was pretty basic, and would now be very out dated.

It would be great for all concerned, if Atak produced another more current & detailed, setup & usage video. Hint, hint.

Atak_Snajpera

20th June 2021, 08:44

Ofcourse wireless works. Even old 54 Mbps (pre-N) will be more than enough for slow pcs.

guest

20th June 2021, 09:57

Ofcourse wireless works. Even old 54 Mbps (pre-N) will be more than enough for slow pcs.

Thanks for confirming that, like I said I've never tried it. :)

frencher

20th June 2021, 11:31

OK, so "we" have a starting point at least :)

So the next and most important thing is, are these on a network ??

It doesn't need to be anything special, and I don't think wireless works (I could be wrong, I've never tried it).

Can't use DE on other PC's without them being connected.

And you're correct, there's NO tutorials around, the one that Atak posted many years ago isn't available anywhere, any more, and it was pretty basic, and would now be very out dated.

It would be great for all concerned, if Atak produced another more current & detailed, setup & usage video. Hint, hint.

Ofcourse wireless works. Even old 54 Mbps (pre-N) will be more than enough for slow pcs.

Yes I am using a dual 2.4 / 5 Ghz Wi-Fi network and are all connected.
https://i.goopics.net/800/mAXJG.jpg (https://goopics.net/i/mAXJG)
I have a fairly good speed, but I intend to use a much faster Devolo 2400 CPL later.

Of course a video would be welcome, by the way I just subscribed to the Atak_Snajpera youtube channel

Atak_Snajpera

20th June 2021, 12:07

Thanks for confirming that, like I said I've never tried it. :)

It is a simple math.

Let's say you have 50 Mbps 4k@24fps movie and 3 PCs in DE mode

Each PC during encoding achieves 4 fps. This means that each PC will be downloading data from HOST PC @~8 Mbps (50Mbps/24fps*4fps). In this scenario three PCs will consume 24Mbps of wireless bandwidth. Ofcourse you have to also include encoded data which is being sent back to HOST PC so overall network usage will be higher. It all depends from bitrate used in encoded file.

guest

20th June 2021, 12:30

It is a simple math.

Let's say you have 50 Mbps 4k@24fps movie and 3 PCs in DE mode

Each PC during encoding achieves 4 fps. This means that each PC will be downloading data from HOST PC @~8 Mbps (50Mbps/24fps*4fps). In this scenario three PCs will consume 24Mbps of wireless bandwidth. Ofcourse you have to also include encoded data which is being sent back to HOST PC so overall network usage will be higher. It all depends from bitrate used in encoded file.

Well, that's good news for @frencher

guest

20th June 2021, 12:59

Yes I am using a dual 2.4 / 5 Ghz Wi-Fi network and are all connected.

OK, well that's good, but I don't think you find anything relevent on that YT channel (I just had a look).

OK, well to start with you'd need RipBot on all machines.

So if you want to use all of them, you need to have one that you use as the client (where you do the encoding jobs), and the other 2 can be the server's (helpers, if you will), you just need to enable Distributed Encoding, apply the appropriate IP address.

Say your Client pc (3930K) was 192.168.1.1, and the other pc's were 192.168.1.2, and so on.

Don't forget to click APPLY once done.

https://i.imgur.com/u8ve9Fb.jpg

Left side column, #1 & 2 are the Client's IP settings

#3 & 4 are say the 6700's IP settings

#5 & 6 are the AMD's IP settings.

And you will need to do simliar on the other PC's. (Apparently not, see Atak's comment below)

So once that's done you need to test, and have say the 6700 with RipBot open, and start a job on the 3930K, and once it opens the Encoding Client window, it will prepare the encoding, and once it starts, it should start encoding on all PC's.

That should work, it's harder to describe things sometimes, than doing them.

Atak_Snajpera

20th June 2021, 13:30

And you will need to do simliar on the other PC's.
Only EncodingServer.exe is required on slave PCs.

guest

20th June 2021, 13:34

Only EncodingServer.exe is required on slave PCs.

Well, there's something I didn't know :)

Thanks for the info.......

frencher

20th June 2021, 16:02

Only EncodingServer.exe is required on slave PCs.

My E6700 OS is Windows 7 x86 no x64 :mad:
And require Avisynth+ for EncodingServer.exe
It's possible to upgade Win7 Pro x86 directly to Win10 x64 ?

frencher

20th June 2021, 16:05

OK, well that's good, but I don't think you find anything relevent on that YT channel (I just had a look).

OK, well to start with you'd need RipBot on all machines.

So if you want to use all of them, you need to have one that you use as the client (where you do the encoding jobs), and the other 2 can be the server's (helpers, if you will), you just need to enable Distributed Encoding, apply the appropriate IP address.

Say your Client pc (3930K) was 192.168.1.1, and the other pc's were 192.168.1.2, and so on.

Don't forget to click APPLY once done.

https://i.imgur.com/u8ve9Fb.jpg

Left side column, #1 & 2 are the Client's IP settings

#3 & 4 are say the 6700's IP settings

#5 & 6 are the AMD's IP settings.

And you will need to do simliar on the other PC's. (Apparently not, see Atak's comment below)

So once that's done you need to test, and have say the 6700 with RipBot open, and start a job on the 3930K, and once it opens the Encoding Client window, it will prepare the encoding, and once it starts, it should start encoding on all PC's.

That should work, it's harder to describe things sometimes, than doing them.

Pauly Dunne :thanks: ;)

Atak_Snajpera

20th June 2021, 16:43

My E6700 OS is Windows 7 x86 no x64 :mad:
And require Avisynth+ for EncodingServer.exe
It's possible to upgade Win7 Pro x86 directly to Win10 x64 ?

Using old dual cores for 4k will be a waste of energy.
Athlon x2 + E6700 will give you at best extra 0.5 fps. Also keep in mind that encoding 4k footage will consume 4 times more memory than typical 1080p. I doubt that your old PCs have more than 4 GiB of RAM.

frencher

20th June 2021, 19:49

Using old dual cores for 4k will be a waste of energy.
Athlon x2 + E6700 will give you at best extra 0.5 fps. Also keep in mind that encoding 4k footage will consume 4 times more memory than typical 1080p. I doubt that your old PCs have more than 4 GiB of RAM.

It is better for me to wait for the future CPU, I suspected a little.

guest

21st June 2021, 01:11

It is better for me to wait for the future CPU, I suspected a little.

Well, you could at least give it a try.

Don't forget you can use DE on 1 PC, it's just a little different with the IP address's.

Although, seeing you use a Wireless network, you may not need to change anything.

For example, I'm on a wired LAN, with 192.168.1.X's, and if I want to use just the one PC with DE, I just need to have the network switch / hub powered on.

otherwise-----

I think the IP address you'd need to use is 127.0.0.1, with the :1000 as well.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Ryushin

23rd June 2021, 22:36

StormMeows

24th June 2021, 18:30

Hey guys, long time lurker here. I am planning to soon encode a lot of my blu-ray backups and want to maintain the best quality. I was originally going to do staxrip with my NVIDIA GPU but the more I researched it, I do not feel like the quality is up to my standards. Most of the GPU encoding I saw loses a lot of detail from the original bluray source. Would Ripbot be a good program to do x265 bluray backups? I want to be able to get the best possible quality as the original source and retain the lossless audio tracks on all of my encodes. If this is a great way to go, I plan on getting a better encoding PC dedicated to my encodes. Also, is there a guide anywhere that goes over what are good extra advanced settings I can use on all of my encodes? I want the encode to look similar to the orginal. I am fine with a bigger file size as well (as long as it is smaller by at least 20% of the original). I would really appreciate any guidance. Thanks guys!

Ripmann

24th June 2021, 23:40

Just updated and immediately noticed that the output line is now editable. Thanks a lot, Atak. Major time saver. I don't think I'll ever be using the Save As dialog anymore.

I have a quick noob question: is there a lossy codec similar to AC3 that allows you to keep all 7.1 channels, not just 5.1? I can't afford to use uncompressed DTS or TrueHD audio and having the audio track being almost the same size (if not more) as the video track, but I'd like to keep all channels at least for some of the encodes as well. Is there a solution for this? I'm sure there must be, but I just got my first modest 7.1 system and this is the first time I have to worry about this.

...Would Ripbot be a good program to do x265 bluray backups? I want to be able to get the best possible quality as the original source and retain the lossless audio tracks on all of my encodes...

It definitely is. I've been using it for years and it's fantastic, there's no other word for it. I believe it was designed to be noob friendly, so you should be able to dive right in. Once you get the hang of it, you'll be able to optimize your encodes further and further. I highly recommend you try it.

As for the advanced settings, most of this stuff is fairly self-explanatory. It also depends on what you exactly you want and the kinds of video files you'll be processing. You may have to look up some of the terminology, but other than that, you'll probably be better off by taking a small sample file and doing several attempts to see how it looks on various settings, asking for help with specific issues, once you encounter them. Hope this helps.

StormMeows

25th June 2021, 00:31

It definitely is. I've been using it for years and it's fantastic, there's no other word for it. I believe it was designed to be noob friendly, so you should be able to dive right in. Once you get the hang of it, you'll be able to optimize your encodes further and further. I highly recommend you try it.

As for the advanced settings, most of this stuff is fairly self-explanatory. It also depends on what you exactly you want and the kinds of video files you'll be processing. You may have to look up some of the terminology, but other than that, you'll probably be better off by taking a small sample file and doing several attempts to see how it looks on various settings, asking for help with specific issues, once you encounter them. Hope this helps.
Thank you! I am glad to hear that it is newb friendly. I am going to do research on these advanced settings. Trial and error is going to be key. When I do a sample, how do I know what scenes of movies to test? Are there certain scenes that I need to test (like dark scenes or action sequences)? Or do I just encode the first 10 minutes of a film and compare it to the original? Is there a best practice that I can use for testing the samples so I can ensure I don't waste a whole day on an encode and there is tons of pixelation or similar in the final result? Thank you!

guest

25th June 2021, 01:50

Just updated and immediately noticed that the output line is now editable. Thanks a lot, Atak. Major time saver. I don't think I'll ever be using the Save As dialog anymore.

I "told" you about this, age's ago....have you been hiding under a rock ?

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1945290#post1945290

I have a quick noob question: is there a lossy codec similar to AC3 that allows you to keep all 7.1 channels, not just 5.1? I can't afford to use uncompressed DTS or TrueHD audio and having the audio track being almost the same size (if not more) as the video track, but I'd like to keep all channels at least for some of the encodes as well. Is there a solution for this? I'm sure there must be, but I just got my first modest 7.1 system and this is the first time I have to worry about this.

You must be compressing your encodes down a LOT, if the audio track is a similar size to the video track. :confused:

guest

25th June 2021, 02:02

Thank you! I am glad to hear that it is newb friendly. I am going to do research on these advanced settings. Trial and error is going to be key. When I do a sample, how do I know what scenes of movies to test? Are there certain scenes that I need to test (like dark scenes or action sequences)? Or do I just encode the first 10 minutes of a film and compare it to the original? Is there a best practice that I can use for testing the samples so I can ensure I don't waste a whole day on an encode and there is tons of pixelation or similar in the final result? Thank you!

Hi StormMeows,

I wouldn't exactly say it was "newb" / "noob" friendly, but it is fairly easy to use, and I'm not too sure about these "Advanced Setting's" either, they're just "setting's" !!!

I'd say the complicated function of RipBot is the Distributed Encoding, now once you've sorted that out, you'll never look back.

Do you have more than one PC ???

What have you got in mind for your "new" encoding PC ???, something pretty powerful, I would suggest !!! (Ryzen 9 5950X)

Also, what is you main objective, meaning do you do a lot of 4K encoding ??

After reading your recent posts on other Forums, you have a pretty powerful system already, and also from what I understand, encoding & re encoding, is just a waste of time & energy (electricity), as you want to basically keep the movies "as is" !!!

SO...

If you want to keep the original size & quality of any of your video's (especially 4K), you'd be just as well off running them thru MKVToolNix, and removing any video, audio & subtitles tracks you don't need, and that's that...quick 'n easy, and will in most cases greatly reduce the file size.

It's just that any 4K encoding can take a very long time, especially if you're using "strong" filter's.

But like Ripmann suggested, grab a sample or a short video, and just test any settings that you think that particular file needs, to "look good", in your eye's.!!!

Ripmann

25th June 2021, 05:14

I "told" you about this, age's ago....have you been hiding under a rock ?
Sorry, missed it. As I said, busy month. Never had a chance to update RipBot before today, let alone have enough time to read the forums.

You must be compressing your encodes down a LOT, if the audio track is a similar size to the video track. :confused:

An uncompressed TrueHD 7.1 stream for a 90-minute movie is 2.5GB. If my goal is to make a 4.37gb DVD-sized encode, that's 57% of the overall file wasted on audio. Even if it's a 7.94gb encode, it's still 31.5% of the total. Clearly a waste of space, especially considering that the 640kbps 5.1 AC3 version for the same file is 413mb. If there's a way to compress that 7.1 to half a gigabyte, I'll gladly take it. Who wouldn't?

guest

25th June 2021, 07:21

Sorry, missed it. As I said, busy month. Never had a chance to update RipBot before today, let alone have enough time to read the forums.

An uncompressed TrueHD 7.1 stream for a 90-minute movie is 2.5GB. If my goal is to make a 4.37gb DVD-sized encode, that's 57% of the overall file wasted on audio. Even if it's a 7.94gb encode, it's still 31.5% of the total. Clearly a waste of space, especially considering that the 640kbps 5.1 AC3 version for the same file is 413mb. If there's a way to compress that 7.1 to half a gigabyte, I'll gladly take it. Who wouldn't?

Hey Ripmann,

Well, unfortunately, I have no use for 7.1 "anything" as my Home Theatre only supports 5.1.

I was going to a lot of trouble to convert THD to DTSMA with eac3to, and another old app that I can't recall the name of atpit.

But then I found a quick way to convert pretty much ANY audio to E-AC3, using eac3to, (which is still 5.1), but it sounds pretty good to my old ears.

Unfortunately, RipBot doesn't convert THD to much, or at least E-AC3, but there other ways.

Anyway, we all have different ways of doing things that we want, just a shame that there isn't just one app, that will do it all.

Imagine combining Handbrake, Straxrip, Hybrid & RipBot, together. :D

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1945413#post1945413

Ripmann

25th June 2021, 15:41

Damn, I stopped actively following the codec scene a long time ago, but I was expecting that an easy 7.1 solution was out there, considering that such systems became widespread years ago.

I'm definitely looking up all the stuff you mentioned, though. RipBot is so convenient, familiar, and time-saving that I became utterly lazy relying on its features. I heard about E-AC3 a while ago but stayed with RipBot's AC3 anyway. Same with better degraining methods like SMDegrain. We discussed it more a month ago and I already did a dozen of jobs using RipBot's built-in denoising methods. Time to get off my butt and take a crash course in newer alternatives. Thanks for the pointers.

EDIT: From the first glance, it looks like E-AC3 supports 7.1 after all. Thanks again for the motivation.

chainring

25th June 2021, 18:09

EDIT: From the first glance, it looks like E-AC3 supports 7.1 after all. Thanks again for the motivation.

Yep, just lossy vs. TrueHD being lossless.

Ripmann

26th June 2021, 13:32

Atak, how difficult would it be to fully switch to E-AC3? After playing with it for a bit, it looks like a superior successor to AC3 in every possible way. Up to 15 channels, Atmos compatibility, much higher maximum bitrate, better compression algorithm, etc. Would it be too time consuming for you to implement it at this point?

Atak_Snajpera

26th June 2021, 13:57

Does ffmpeg even support E-AC3 7.1 encoding?

guest

26th June 2021, 14:45

Does ffmpeg even support E-AC3 7.1 encoding?

Not yet it don't, and I've been looking !!

Handbrake, clever FFmpeg-GUI, & Axiom can change nearly any format to E-AC3, but the max is still only 5.1.

Also, a certain procedure using eac3to, with the help of FFMPEG, can do conversions to E-AC3, up to default E 640, but you can edit that value, and I use 1536.

But a downmixed THD or DTS 7.1 to E-AC3 5.1 sound's pretty good, if you run it @ 1536.

If you could (and I know you could) add an E-AC3 option, that would be brilliant :)

g0th1ckn1ght

26th June 2021, 21:36

Hi all, i have recently come back to Ripbot for backing up my blu rays. Can any offer any advice on how i use Ripbot. I run anydvd hd along with ripbot

insert blu ray into drive
I open the stream and demux the bluray using ripbot (demux audio as well to keep original uncompressed audio as well as any subtitles i need)
I then select hevc and copy stream for video
Copy stream for audio
Add subtitles (including forced)
Then hit done and it starts remuxing

So far the quality has great (as far as i can tell, no difference between inserting the disc into the player vs watching my ,mkv's via Kodi)
Large file sizes are not a big deal for me, video and audio quality are

guest

27th June 2021, 01:59

g0th1ckn1ght

27th June 2021, 11:58

Nearly 6 years since your last post.....

Not too sure why you're asking, you have described your process, that works for you, just carry on.

What else do you want to know ??

I was just wondering if there was anything else i am missing or if this method is the best way to get the best quality

guest

28th June 2021, 01:11

I was just wondering if there was anything else i am missing or if this method is the best way to get the best quality

I would say that the way you are doing it, is probably the quickest way, and you maintain the original video & audio quality, so like I said before, if you're happy with that, then by all means continue doing that.

Once you start using different filters, for removing grain or noise, then it becomes a different & slower process.

Sometimes you can "clean up" the video, and actually make it look better than original, unfortunately, too many movies have grain & noise, which can be filtered out, however, there are ppl out there that like the "feel" of some grain & noise.....me, not so much, the clearer & cleaner the better.

It's all in the eye of the beholder (as they say).

g0th1ckn1ght

28th June 2021, 01:22

I would say that the way you are doing it, is probably the quickest way, and you maintain the original video & audio quality, so like I said before, if you're happy with that, then by all means continue doing that.

Once you start using different filters, for removing grain or noise, then it becomes a different & slower process.

Sometimes you can "clean up" the video, and actually make it look better than original, unfortunately, too many movies have grain & noise, which can be filtered out, however, there are ppl out there that like the "feel" of some grain & noise.....me, not so much, the clearer & cleaner the better.

It's all in the eye of the beholder (as they say).

Thank you for the advice. I am going for the "as close to original" as I can get.
I do understand what you mean about noise an grain though. Doesn't always look the best.

Thanks again

kempodragon

28th June 2021, 16:56

After much experimentation, I've partially succeeded in getting Ripbot to encode my 3-D movies. First I tried loading the main view file, which is also used for 2D playback. I then copied the avs file that BD3D2MK3D generated into Ripbot's editor. When I tried previewing the file, I got the message it could not initialize the mvc file, and listed the line with the plugin.

To confirm that BD3 avs file wasn't the problem, I opened it with VirtualDub2, and, just for fun, I made an uncompressed full SBS file. I wanted to see how Ripbot would handle an uncompressed file, but at 1.6 TB it was too big to transfer to the ssd that I have Ripbot's temp file on. :D

Finally, I directly opened the BD3 avs in Ripbot. It opened with no problem, but took so long extracting the frame information that I thought Ripbot had locked up. Once it finished, I was able to preview it with no problems, so I crossed my fingers and tried encoding.

Here's why I partially succeeded. Ripbot encoded it with no problems, but DE would not start no matter what. Task manager showed nothing in the wait states, but did say the DE server was waiting for network I/O. I could not manually start DE either. There were no error messages, DE simply refused to start. Hopefully, Atak can figure this problem out because I would love to see what kind of encoding speed I can get with DE, since even w/o it Ripbot still managed a respectable 32 fps encoding a full SBS at level 5.0

Atak_Snajpera

28th June 2021, 17:57

De mode will never work if physical video.mkv file is missing in job folder.

StormMeows

11th July 2021, 18:11

Hey guys, is there anyone out there that uses Staxrip and Ripbot? I recently learned how to use Staxrip for backing up my large blu-ray collection and I am loving it, but it doesn't take full advantage of my AMD 5950x. When I am doing x264 8-bit encodes, it is only typically using ~70% of the CPU power. I have been following this Ripbot thread and have seen the evidence where you can 100% use the AMD multi threading processors, like my 5950x. With Staxrip, I could probably change some settings to make it reach 100% but that might suffer quality of the overall encode, right? Thanks for any guidance on this. I have a ton of movies I need to do and don't want to lose any quality (I aim for transparency to the original blu-ray). Thanks!

Atak_Snajpera

11th July 2021, 18:47

Just activate distributed encoding mode with 2 servers and you will have constant 100% cpu usage.

StormMeows

11th July 2021, 19:17

Just activate distributed encoding mode with 2 servers and you will have constant 100% cpu usage.

How is the quality of Ripbot x264 8 bit going to compare to Staxrip? I read that the more threads that I use on my AMD processor, the more it degrades the overall quality. Is that why Staxrip only typically uses 60-75% of my CPU? Thanks

JKyle

11th July 2021, 20:34

How is the quality of Ripbot x264 8 bit going to compare to Staxrip? I read that the more threads that I use on my AMD processor, the more it degrades the overall quality. Is that why Staxrip only typically uses 60-75% of my CPU? Thanks

StaxRip does x265 chunk encoding by cutting frames into N chunks (simple arithmetic division of the total number of frames = equal chunking) if Input/Output > Chunks is set to N in x265 Options. But unlike RipBot, each chunk employs separate processes in the SAME CPU in StaxRip.

I don't know how RipBot cuts the frames for DE in different servers, but if it cuts the frames evenly by simple arithmetic division (equal chunking), the only difference b/w StaxRip and RipBot lies in whether different CPUs can be employed (RipBot) or not (StaxRip).

And equal chunking is obviously inferior to scene-aware chunking which cuts frames based on frame similarities via ffmpeg, etc.

If you're interested in scene-aware chunking in x265, you may want to try Av1an (https://github.com/master-of-zen/Av1an). But since it's a CLI app, it has some learning curve, though.

For reference, there was a request to implement scene-aware chunking in StaxRip (https://github.com/staxrip/staxrip/issues/619), but it's put off as of now due to some difficult obstacles at the code level.

Anyway, my apologies for cluttering up this thread with StaxRip topics. :rolleyes: