View Full Version : RipBot264 v1.18.3 - Simple and easy to use GUI -> IPOD . PSP . CONSOLES . BLURAY
Atak_Snajpera
10th June 2008, 23:08
no probs. do u want me to send you mediainfo on files that do work? and files encoded using your app?
So some files work on your ipod but some don't. Am I right?
~bT~
10th June 2008, 23:09
^ no. files encoded using winavimp4 works, while ripbot ones dont.
Atak_Snajpera
10th June 2008, 23:11
Show me MediaInfo report. The same source but encoded by ripbot and winavimp4
~bT~
10th June 2008, 23:13
sure. give me a few mins.
~bT~
11th June 2008, 00:03
here you go:
ripbot264 (http://pastebin.com/m75fe3c0e)
winavimp4 (http://pastebin.com/m37b13ebc)
Atak_Snajpera
11th June 2008, 00:13
maximum birate is too high (2031 Kbps). Try again with 2-pass at 384kbps
gav1577
11th June 2008, 00:37
Hi Atak_Snajpera is there any reason in particular Why you changed the vbv buffer size & vbv max bitrate for the bluray profile from 14000/25000 to 30000/30000 ? will the higher settings still be ok for avchd because i have read too high a setting can cause avchd discs to become jerky during playback.
thanks
Atak_Snajpera
11th June 2008, 00:41
Higher buffersize helps to avoid that issue
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138339
Maximum for blu-ray is 30000/40000
gav1577
11th June 2008, 00:46
Ok thanks for the reply i will take your word for it. Good work btw .
JPSiemer
11th June 2008, 02:25
1080p -> DVD-DL , 720p -> DVD-SL
Where are screenshots :) At the moment I see nothing
Working on them, but I was specifically referencing the quote that DeathTheSheep said about having to turn off deblocking for Xbox to work. Why do you have to argue with me about this? What I'm telling you is the truth and it has been proven over and over again, so how come you keep ignoring my simple request? It would take you ten minutes to write the code into the app. I'll even donate to your cause, just please give us Xbox users this feature!
binh25
11th June 2008, 09:09
I encodes a video over the weekend and it took like 25+ hour to complete at 90-100% CPU utilization.
I have a core 2 duo Intel 2.1G running on Windows XP
I use standard 2 pass with AC3 sound 448kbs with both 4.3G in file size and 8.6Gig file size.
is this normal?
also my MKV play back constantly use above 60% CPU with peak 80-100% to play back video.. Other HD MKV I got doesn't use any where near that sort of CPU. around 20% - 40%
Any tips I can speed thing up a little.?
~bT~
11th June 2008, 09:20
maximum birate is too high (2031 Kbps). Try again with 2-pass at 384kbps
i dont really want to do 2 pass encodes. is there no way around doing crf encodes? somewhere in the profile to limit the max bitrate?
klas
11th June 2008, 14:33
Is there any guide to convert mkv to BluRay with all the steps for a film of resolution 1260 * 688 or similar? How much does it take a 2.1 corel duo in codify a mkv to bluray?
Ajax_Undone
11th June 2008, 18:12
I am going out on a limb and am going to say your wanting to know how long it will take for your (2.1 corel duo) *Core 2 Duo @ 2.1GHZ* to (codify) *encode* that 1260x688 film...
And the answer is! *no one can tell you* It depends on your system configuration... In essence its a variable that no one likes but they have to deal with...
klas
11th June 2008, 19:47
I am going out on a limb and am going to say your wanting to know how long it will take for your (2.1 corel duo) *Core 2 Duo @ 2.1GHZ* to (codify) *encode* that 1260x688 film...
And the answer is! *no one can tell you* It depends on you system configuration... In essence its a variable that no one likes but they have to deal with...
Thank you for the educational answer, if I am not mistaken a computer processor mark clearly the ability to process, my problem is the same as that of a top post, it takes in 22 to 25 hours and it seems to me excessive.
We recommend that if you do not understand the logic of questions remain in limbo and not respond.
Atak_Snajpera
11th June 2008, 20:36
i dont really want to do 2 pass encodes. is there no way around doing crf encodes? somewhere in the profile to limit the max bitrate?
You have to use 2-pass because crf does care about buffer size or maximum bitrate. At the moment only 2-pass work well with max bitrate.
vwpassion
11th June 2008, 22:10
Great program, been using it a while now.
I need to make a request. As I'm using 2 audio tracks often times in my encodings, I was wondering if you could add the option of adding another audio track to the gui?
Thanks a lot!
Robertus
11th June 2008, 23:03
for bluray disc output, will be included soon the chance to include 2 audio?
Atak_Snajpera
11th June 2008, 23:08
If Poland will win against Austria tomorrow ... Maybe ... maybe ;)
Ajax_Undone
12th June 2008, 01:31
Thank you for the educational answer, if I am not mistaken a computer processor mark clearly the ability to process, my problem is the same as that of a top post, it takes in 22 to 25 hours and it seems to me excessive.
We recommend that if you do not understand the logic of questions remain in limbo and not respond.
Yes the processor does have the specs marked on the box but that's only 1 in a chain of 100 Billion reasons why it would be going slow...
Who are "WE" anyhow... The point being made is if You want the video encoded it will take time on a slower system period.
You speak of logic though your initial question has none.:confused: besides that my answer is as logical as it gets ask anyone...
No one can tell you how long its going to take or why... It is truly a variable that goes up and down dependently...
At your level of questioning everything comes into play...
The System:
Operating system, Software, fragmentation of the disks, disk seek speed, ram latency, ram frequency, Processor cash load, size of cash, math processor frequency, ram controller frequency, Processor frequency, how many cores, hard drive cache size, how much ram is used, Hard drive cashing, How much ram you have,
The video:
Size, fps, darc matter, Mbps/kbps, type, progressive or interlaced, sound quality, output size, output fps, output mode (ie CQ crf or Bitrate), ect... the list goes on...
Everything comes into play...
Seriously how do you solve for the Numeral variable X in the equation X+Z=P. X could be anything from -9^ to 9^...
Impossible to tell...:rolleyes:
There is no definitive answer to your illogical question. So to that I will say this. You will forever remain in limbo until you realize that there is no answer to a variable with out and end in site...
Now please try to understand we all want it to work just as fast as possible... Sometimes it does and sometimes not...
The best I can tell you is kill all un-nessarry processes in the background clear *your system tray of all icons related to software you have installed* (Except antivirus). Uninstall all codec packs and only install the packages in the installer Provided in my signature. defrag your hard drive clean out any un-nessasery files. And from there you might see a change...
wakebrder
12th June 2008, 05:31
Atak-
Thank you very much for an excellent program.
I'm having problems with certain BD disc output streams from TSmuxer. If I open m2ts stream (from TSmuxer) on some movies, I get a very low count of frames and a low duration. (H:M:S)
Say the movie is 2 hours, and I get a duration of 9-15 minutes and a low number of frames.
Do you have any idea what is wrong?
Thanks!
Atak_Snajpera
12th June 2008, 06:59
1) Demux audio in TSMuxer
2) Import m2ts in ripbot
3) Import Audio in ripbot
4) Disable A/v Same length (OFF)
JPSiemer
12th June 2008, 08:50
Atak, can you PLEASE add the ability to remove deblocking with the --nf setting?!?! I'm experiencing major stutter with my encodes when playing back on the Xbox. If you don't feel like making it a GUI setting, at least let me add the setting manually to the profile INI's.
Thanks!
myksto
12th June 2008, 13:33
Hi.
I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700.
I used it to encode a movie whose duration is 2h 34m.
I set the 2 pass encode and the HD.Bluray.Consoles profile.
Resolution 1920x1080.
Is it normal that it took almost 24 hours to complete the process?
The first pass was more quick but the second one was very longer.
I'm not an expert in encoding and x.264 is a new planet for me. Would you be so kind to tell me, or explain or link me to a page where I can understand which parameters slow down the process, improve quality and so on and so forth?
I usually watch my movie by my ps3 so I would like to know wich parameters are to be set to encode a ps3 compatible movie and why.
Hope not to have asked too much... :)
Thanks a lot.
jmone
12th June 2008, 13:37
Nice app but I'd like to check if it is possible now (or in the near future) to convert the Audio track from DD+ / DTS to (L)PCM. I want to preserve the quality and have a format that can be played my most devices (I don't care about the extra disk space).
Thanks
Nathan
wakebrder
12th June 2008, 16:04
1) Demux audio in TSMuxer
2) Import m2ts in ripbot
3) Import Audio in ripbot
4) Disable A/v Same length (OFF)
Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll give that a shot tonight.
Would it be possible to allow Ripbot to accecpt .264 files? (Since this is the video output of TsMuxer in demux mode)
Thanks again for this great software and support!
Wishbringer
12th June 2008, 16:35
... duration is 2h 34m... HD.Bluray.Consoles profile... took almost 24 hours to complete the process
Should be normal!
On my Quad at 3.2GHz it took around 5 hours to encode around 90mins:
24h/(2h34m/90m)/(3.2GHz/2.66GHz)/(4cores/2cores)=5h50m
The first pass was more quick but the second one was very longer.
1st pass is "only" an analyzing pass, in the 2nd the "real" encoding is done, so it needs more time.
... which parameters slow down the process, improve quality ...
RDO and multihex take most time, but give better results, and they are used in RipBot to give a decent quality of encodes.
... wich parameters are to be set to encode a ps3 compatible movie and why.
Why? Ask Sony! (It's a feature) :) They decided to set restrictions in playback to Level4.1, no b-pyramid, ref-frames, bframes and so on.
Look into profile in RipBot.
You can lower settings like RDO and multihex to increase speed, or set RDO2, exhausive to increase quality and encoding time.
All other settings you can lower, but shouldn't increase because of compatiblity.
My advice: leave settings as is, start encode in the evening, watch tv, go to bed, go to work, play with your girlfriend and then look if encode is finished.
2nd advice: overclock or buy better cpu
wakebrder
12th June 2008, 17:26
1) Demux audio in TSMuxer
2) Import m2ts in ripbot
3) Import Audio in ripbot
4) Disable A/v Same length (OFF)
Tried that.
I still get wrong number of frames in video section. Audio is correct.
If I mux the .264 video portion with TsMuxer, and output as .m2ts, then try to import video only with ripbot, I get this Script error:There is no function named "ugin"(C:\Temp\Ripbot264temp\getinfo.avs,line 1)
myksto
12th June 2008, 18:49
Should be normal!
On my Quad at 3.2GHz it took around 5 hours to encode around 90mins:
24h/(2h34m/90m)/(3.2GHz/2.66GHz)/(4cores/2cores)=5h50m
Ok.
1st pass is "only" an analyzing pass, in the 2nd the "real" encoding is done, so it needs more time.
Ok but settings in profiles are for both first and second pass?
RDO and multihex take most time, but give better results, and they are used in RipBot to give a decent quality of encodes.
Ok.
Why? Ask Sony! (It's a feature) :) They decided to set restrictions in playback to Level4.1, no b-pyramid, ref-frames, bframes and so on.
I only asked for some more information. I know about the Sony restrictions.
Look into profile in RipBot.
You can lower settings like RDO and multihex to increase speed, or set RDO2, exhausive to increase quality and encoding time.
All other settings you can lower, but shouldn't increase because of compatiblity.
Ok.
My advice: leave settings as is, start encode in the evening, watch tv, go to bed, go to work, play with your girlfriend and then look if encode is finished.
Thanks a lot, very useful advice, really.
2nd advice: overclock or buy better cpu
I only wanted some explainations about the encoding process. I know that I could buy more powerfull cpu. I'm not used to overclock instead. :)
Thanks, bye.
Wishbringer
12th June 2008, 19:20
settings in profiles are for both first and second pass?
First pass is done at lowest possible settings (nearly), profile is for 2nd pass
I only asked for some more information.
My "why" belongs to "which parameters to be compatible and why?".
Parameters are resticted by AVC Level. PS3 uses Level 4.1 and has some other restrictions. We tested them by trial and error encodes. We don't know, why PS3 has them.
Best advise was to look into profile(s) of RipBot or maybe MeGUI. In AVC forum was a very long thread how to encode PS3 movies.
I only wanted some explainations about the encoding process. I know that I could buy more powerfull cpu. I'm not used to overclock instead. :)
x264 is a very powerfull codec, but a very complex too. Compared to xvid and mpeg2 it is slow.
Look at the x264 forum (mpeg4 avc).
There are several threads about settings and benefits.
Atak_Snajpera made this tool to get high quality encodes for some platforms.
If you want to experiment with x264 settings, it would be better to use MeGUI. :)
smackbadger
12th June 2008, 19:21
Hi Atak,
Any chance you're going to add Anamorphic control to Ripbot264 at some point?
I know I can set it to resize to 640x360 to get a 16:9 aspect from my 720x480 anamorphic source, but then I'm losing quite a bit of vertical resolution and on my 55" screen that's not a good thing. I could just adjust the aspect ratio later in the player, but that's a pain that would be unnecessary if Ripbot could set the flags properly for 720x480 anamorphic material.
I've been using staxrip instead, since it supports anamorphic, but I prefer the simplicity of the Ripbot interface.
-John
Atak_Snajpera
12th June 2008, 22:36
I still get wrong number of frames in video section. Audio is correct.
Solution 1: Create script
DirectShowSource("your_problematic.m2ts")
Open that script in ripbot264
Solution 2: Remux your_problematic.m2ts in eac3to to mkv
wakebrder
13th June 2008, 01:37
Solution 2: Remux your_problematic.m2ts in eac3to to mkv
I haven't encoded yet, but that seemed to do the trick! H:M:S duration is now equal for video/audio.
Why does this happen on some movies and not others? Is TsMuxer producing corrupt .m2ts files? AutoMKV & Staxrip also had problems with this particular file.
Thanks again for your help!
deets
13th June 2008, 11:50
why do i get the feeling a lot of people want ripbot264 to turn into another megui! simplicity is the key, i thought. anyway after last nights footy, dont expect much today ;) was a penalty though....
digg it if you like it
http://digg.com/software/RipBot264_One_of_the_best_x_264_Encoders_on_the_net
turbojet
13th June 2008, 18:19
hi, back with some test results for dts files from v1.9.8, I hope things didn't change with the later versions.
1:34:14 720 + 1.066.609.488 DTS = 4.735.914.172
2:01:34 720 + 1.375.992.716 DTS = 4.748.594.844
2:01:34 720 + 687.996.358 768DTS = 4.695.412.380
1:53:18 720 + 1,282,241,564 DTS = 4,743,831,552
1:53:18 1080 + 1,282,241,564 DTS = 8,584,415,232
1:27:37 720 + 991,658,464 DTS = 4,733,134,848
1:27:37 1080 + 991,658,464 DTS = 8,580,200,448
1:26:52 720 + 983,650,437 DTS = 4,733,054,976
1:26:52 1080 + 983,650,437 DTS = 8,581,066,752
1:36:34 720 + 1,092,854,016 DTS = 4,737,312,768
1:36:34 1080 + 1,092,854,016 DTS = 8,581,896,192
1:45:48 720 + 598,731,966 768DTS = 4,695,705,600
1:45:48 1080 + 598,731,966 768DTS = 8,536,418,304
720 = 4480 target
1080 = 8150 target
DTS = 1536 DTS
good news is 768 DTS is calculating nicely, bad news is 1536 DTS is roughly 30-40 MB oversized.
Also I've ran into an issue on windows server 2003. If it's not an administrator account ripbot264 doesn't detect avisynth and haali even though they are installed and are working. Could there possibly be a way to bypass that check through the .ini?
Another thing is would it be possible to add an entry to the ini where if ripbot264 is closed it doesnt automatically kill all x264 processes?
Thanks for the efforts so far.
Atak_Snajpera
13th June 2008, 19:15
1:34:14 720 + 1.066.609.488 DTS = 4.735.914.172
(4517MB - 4480MB = 37MB , 4480MB - 37MB = 4443MB Lock size at 4443 and let me know what bitrate do you get?)
2:01:34 720 + 1.375.992.716 DTS = 4.748.594.844 (bitrate ?)
2:01:34 720 + 687.996.358 768DTS = 4.695.412.380 (bitrate ?)
1:53:18 720 + 1,282,241,564 DTS = 4,743,831,552 (bitrate ?)
1:53:18 1080 + 1,282,241,564 DTS = 8,584,415,232 (bitrate ?)
1:27:37 720 + 991,658,464 DTS = 4,733,134,848 (bitrate ?)
1:27:37 1080 + 991,658,464 DTS = 8,580,200,448 (bitrate ?)
1:26:52 720 + 983,650,437 DTS = 4,733,054,976 (bitrate ?)
1:26:52 1080 + 983,650,437 DTS = 8,581,066,752 (bitrate ?)
1:36:34 720 + 1,092,854,016 DTS = 4,737,312,768 (bitrate ?)
1:36:34 1080 + 1,092,854,016 DTS = 8,581,896,192 (bitrate ?)
1:45:48 720 + 598,731,966 768DTS = 4,695,705,600 (bitrate ?)
1:45:48 1080 + 598,731,966 768DTS = 8,536,418,304 (bitrate ?) I'm not happy with 8141 MB size :( It should be about 8148
JPSiemer
14th June 2008, 20:35
why do i get the feeling a lot of people want ripbot264 to turn into another megui! simplicity is the key, i thought. anyway after last nights footy, dont expect much today ;) was a penalty though....
Nobody wants to oversimplify the UI. We just are telling the author what features the users want! I don't see how anything that has been requested would complicate the UI in any way...
I, for one, cannot use RipBot anymore until there is an ability to turn off deblocking! :mad: CABAC and Deblocking are the two most CPU intensive features of the codec -- CABAC works fine on Xbox, but Deblocking stutters like crazy (even on -6,-6).
It makes me mad because I love this program and it would take Atak ten minutes to add this feature. I'm not sure why this isn't even on there anyways, because a lot of iPhone users are encoding without deblocking as well...
8ternity
14th June 2008, 21:30
HI,
Could somebody help me with my trouble please in ripbot264.
I have a soft trouble while convert blu-ray movies to Blu-Ray AVCHD DVD9. I have a trouble with all mouvements, like the picture move with a little sacades. When somebody moves, like he move not natturally.
I would like to know if it's an setting to change or something like that. If i read the m2ts from the blu-ray before the conversion, everything is good.
Could somebody can help me with that please?
Sorry for my english and thanks for your work with ripbot264. Super software!
Another question, did they have a way with ripbot264 to add a second language AC3 channel? In the software they read 2, but when conversion done, only one language.
Thanks a lot !
Ajax_Undone
14th June 2008, 22:00
why do i get the feeling a lot of people want ripbot264 to turn into another megui! simplicity is the key, i thought. anyway after last nights footy, dont expect much today ;) was a penalty though....
digg it if you like it
http://digg.com/software/RipBot264_One_of_the_best_x_264_Encoders_on_the_net
Ha! I posted that almost 3 months ago...
Awesome 4 diggs lol
That Digg was only to get people to notice that it existed not to make people want it to become another MeGui...
I feel every app has its place and my own belief is that if you can add a feature that makes it work better with out complicating the app as Atak has feel free to add it in.
Its a great utility small compact not complicated and very easy for the most novice as stated in that digg...
If you don't know what a particular feature does then ask. I am sure there are over a hundred people here who can help you figure it out and also help you get the best out of using it...
Just because it is there does not mean you have to use it...
JPSiemer
14th June 2008, 22:38
I feel every app has its place and my own belief is that if you can add a feature that makes it work better with out complicating the app as Atak has feel free to add it in.
So, Ajax, what do you think about adding the ability to turn off Deblocking? I mean, this would not complicate the app by adding a simple checkbox!
Ajax_Undone
14th June 2008, 22:44
I think it could add some stability as you have stated for xbox and I-phones but for those I usually use Megui...
JPSiemer
14th June 2008, 23:46
Ajax, I would use MeGUI (or Handbrake), but it crashes when loading anything but DVD sources. RipBot does not. 80% of my sources are non-DVD. Therefore, at the moment I cannot rip 80% of my sources (yet). Any idea what I could do to get this to work? This is pretty much the only thing holding me back from switching to RipBot permenantly...
JPSiemer
14th June 2008, 23:47
Also, can you guys tell me why you cannot view the encoding details through MediaInfo of any RipBot encodes?
Ajax_Undone
15th June 2008, 00:10
Also, can you guys tell me why you cannot view the encoding details through MediaInfo of any RipBot encodes?
Wow thats interesting
deets
15th June 2008, 00:25
Ajax, I would use MeGUI (or Handbrake), but it crashes when loading anything but DVD sources. RipBot does not. 80% of my sources are non-DVD. Therefore, at the moment I cannot rip 80% of my sources (yet). Any idea what I could do to get this to work? This is pretty much the only thing holding me back from switching to RipBot permenantly...
what kinda files you having an issue with, xvid avi, h.264 mkv etc?
ripbot uses avisynth, the same as megui, so there should be no reason you cant get the files to work.
JPSiemer
15th June 2008, 01:17
Wow thats interesting
Ya, this is what I get...
Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 54mn
Bit rate : 1224 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 336 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.2
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Notice how there is no section for x264 Settings. In fact, the same file encoded with MeGUI produces this extra bit of information...
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.165
Writing library : x264 core 59 r871 100d067
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=0:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=1140 / ratetol=4.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=1.00 / qpmin=18 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=5000 / vbv_bufsize=768 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=2:1.00
Language : English
JPSiemer
15th June 2008, 01:23
what kinda files you having an issue with, xvid avi, h.264 mkv etc?
ripbot uses avisynth, the same as megui, so there should be no reason you cant get the files to work.
all of them... it crashes when loading any non-DVD source.
JPSiemer
15th June 2008, 01:25
Deets, here is the crash report...
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: megui.exe
Application Version: 0.2.6.1046
Application Timestamp: 47eba5a1
Fault Module Name: StackHash_2a66
Fault Module Version: 6.0.6001.18000
Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a783
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: 000aada3
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 2a66
Additional Information 2: 6451a58300378d3769e578402fe758f6
Additional Information 3: 6ab7
Additional Information 4: 14dda5b05776e672b6a8696be66b5376
JPSiemer
15th June 2008, 02:31
Nevermind, fixed problem with MeGUI crashing. Aparently if you have Office 2007, you need to uninstall Groove or else MeGUI will crash when loading anything other than d2v sources into the AviSynth Script Creator. Found the solution @ http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-125121.html
Well, I guess I do not need RipBot264 anymore!!! See you guys later...
Ajax_Undone
15th June 2008, 02:41
??? Groove really? I haven't use that since I purchased it, maybe reporting this in the MeGui thread... Might be a good idea for them to fix it eh...
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