multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[Rudy A-Traxx]

You can do it in title PROPERTIES, Chapters, [auto] button.
multiAVCHD will generate as many chapter marks as you set. Since 732+ auto[12] is disabled, so you should get what you want.

Is it possible for you to offer the possibility to add a preference in the "Setting" tab that let us choose the number of chapters we'd like by default.

Because, in the Properties, we are compelled to apply the auto button for each track one by one (my compilation have up to 50 tracks sometimes).
The properties Auto button fonction should remain because it's very useful when we want to apply to a track a different number of chapters... (hope what I wrote was comprehensible)

Thanks

[deank]

It doesn't work for me!

EDIT: Found it! For some reason...

It is fixed now. Update manually with multiUPDATE if not prompted.

[roblonuk]

Hi there,

Since upgrading to the latest version I am getting the following error message when trying to burn strict AVCHD discs for a Panasonic player.

DEBUG[mplayer] play:
'Z:\TempStore\multiTEMP-20100304\20100304-123456-MM001.avs'
[report the error to the author]


entry in log file is:

Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1] [static title thumbnail]
Cannot detect file size: (Z:\TempStore\multiTEMP-20100304\20100304-123456-MM001.avs)
Error encoding main menu page #1!

The list of files in the folder is:

20100304-122803-1588
20100304-123546-CM001-01.avs
20100304-123546-CM001-01.avs.264
ch001-1.jpg
ch001-2.jpg
ch001-3.jpg
ch001-4.jpg
ch001-5.jpg
ch001-6.jpg
ch001-7.jpg
ch001-8.jpg
ch001-9.jpg
ch001-10.jpg
ch001-11.jpg
ch001-12.jpg
t001.jpg
XMCP.001

Not sure what setting has been introduced that I now need to turn off.

Please can you help.

Thanks :)

[deank]

You simply need to play the .avs script with mplayer or MPC and report the error message (before clicking [YES] at the prompt).

[roblonuk]

Thanks Dean.

So is it normal I should be getting this with the latest build? I have not had it before.

[deank]

No, it is not normal and I never got this error (even I am the one to write the program). Basically it means that your PC can't encode the menu with your current codec configuration.

Once you play the AviSynth script you'll know why is this happening.

[deank]

Thinking about something... Going after the volume split and the playlist merge I encountered a case when I needed a playitem/title to be split to multiple titles at each chapter point.

Basically it would allow users to go back from camcoder joined scenes to having each scene in a separate title or (another example) - to load a concert video with 20 songs, with chapter marks at each song start, getting each song as a separate title/playlist. It would allow rearranging or any other manipulation PER CHAPTER (since a chapter segment would become a TITLE).

Since M2TS/MPEG join function does the merge, I think that a chapter-split option would be useful to do the opposite (either for joined m2ts/mpeg or for single files).

:)

And I added [Title List menu] button in the preview section of MENU tab. I guess the preview will be available soon.

And some important changes to re-author mode (speed improvement).

And a fix when using hidden titles (AGAIN!)

And an option to use [merge playlists] button with Blu-ray discs' playlists (or re-authored discs imported in normal author mode) - that is when playlists are not from regular AVCHD structures and may contain menu playitems or pop-up menus.

Dean

[peppies]

No, it is not normal and I never got this error (even I am the one to write the program). Basically it means that your PC can't encode the menu with your current codec configuration.

Once you play the AviSynth script you'll know why is this happening.

Hi Dean, there are more people getting this very same error including myself as I reported in my last post. Can you be more specific on "play the AviSynth script" thing? My problem still persists unless I turn the media split OFF. Thank you.

[roblonuk]

Sorry Dean,

I mistyped the previous error, it should have read:

Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1] [static title thumbnail]
Cannot detect file size: (Z:\TempStore\multiTEMP-20100304\20100304-123456-MM001.264)
Error encoding main menu page #1!

When I check that file in the temp folder it is 0 bytes.

However, the .264 file located in the same location as the original .mkv file has the expected size set by the transcode options for the media.

[setarip_old]

@deak

Have things gotten so rough that you've "lost your shirt"?

[deank]

Hi Dean, there are more people getting this very same error including myself as I reported in my last post. Can you be more specific on "play the AviSynth script" thing? My problem still persists unless I turn the media split OFF. Thank you.

I don't know how more specific I have to be. The error box shows a file name (the avisynth script required to encode the menu page). You go to this file folder and play the file with MPC (Media Player Classic) or MPC-HT. When you play it the player will play a video with the actual error (probably).

Sorry Dean,

I mistyped the previous error, it should have read:

Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1] [static title thumbnail]
Cannot detect file size: (Z:\TempStore\multiTEMP-20100304\20100304-123456-MM001.264)
Error encoding main menu page #1!

When I check that file in the temp folder it is 0 bytes.

However, the .264 file located in the same location as the original .mkv file has the expected size set by the transcode options for the media.

That's why the error is printed - because this .264 file is the encoded menu page and it is ZERO bytes because for some reason it was NOT encoded at all.

@deak

Have things gotten so rough that you've "lost your shirt"?

:p Btw I added this option to [alter detected properties] if a video. There is a checkbox to force a file as [HD-DVD compliant] if for some reason multiAVCHD can't detect it as such.

It is a good way to import non-x264 encoded files (which are compliant) and use this option to avoid reencoding.

Can you check if it works for you?

Dean

[deank]

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_x264nal.jpg

It is now possible to use newer x264 builds and 64bit version of the encoder.

Newer builds require different nal-hrd parameter --nal-hrd vbr or --nal-hrd cbr, so make sure to set it properly.

Usage of 64bit x264 requires that you name your 64bit version of the exe as x264_64.exe and to have avs4x264.exe (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/avs4x264.exe) in your tools folder.

Dean

[laserfan]

Newer builds require different nal-hrd parameter --nal-hrd vbr or --nal-hrd cbrHas this been released yet? Included in mAVCHD update?

[deank]

The latest 734+ exe has the options... Full-download has the avs4x264.exe (or you can download it from the link above). The full-download does not include 64bit versions of x264 and includes one of the old 32bit builds as it always did. :)

[cwh060]

Thanks, did a small compilation using x264_64.exe and avs4x264.exe , worked perfectly.

cwh

[rendez2k]

Thanks, did a small compilation using x264_64.exe and avs4x264.exe , worked perfectly.

cwh

Any speed/quality increase?

[cwh060]

On an 8min compilation (which I use for testing) it was 3.8sec faster. No noticeable difference in quality.

cwh

[deank]

I never understood users' desire for 64bit versions... I'm fed up with requests so I added it... Multiple tests show that encoding of 2 hour video gets about 30 seconds to 2 minutes less time to complete with the 64bit version... Does it really matter when you spend 2-3-5 hours in encoding? :)

Dean

[cwh060]

I agree, 64b is insignificant. Get a bigger processor if you really want programs to fly!

cwh

[setarip_old]

@deank
Btw I added this option to [alter detected properties] if a video. There is a checkbox to force a file as [HD-DVD compliant] if for some reason multiAVCHD can't detect it as such.What version of multiAVCHD shall I download that includes this option?

[deank]

Current... build 734.

[roblonuk]

"Newer builds require different nal-hrd parameter --nal-hrd vbr or --nal-hrd cbr, so make sure to set it properly."

Please can you explain further.

Can I assume that the default option works with the version of x264 that is installed as part of the current build?

[deank]

Correct.

If you decide to replace the version I included then you may have to change the NAL setting.

[pio011]

Hi Deank,

thanks again for this great program. I refer to the post above. I use Windows 7 (64bit) and receive the following two errors:

[09:03:05] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1] [Static title thumbnail].
[09:03:07] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100306\20100306-090248-MM001.264)
[09:03:07] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[09:05:43] Final output may be corrupted!
[09:05:43] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...

As you have mentioned above, I should look for the avs file and play it. It worked fine, no errors, Zoomplayer showed me a very short clip of the main menu (one or two seconds). The final output also seem to play well on my ps3. So, how do I correct this error? Why is it happening?

My 2nd Problem: If I have a mkv title and want to add srt subtiltes, I get this error msg:

[20:10:13] !!! Error converting subtitles! (java?)

Why? Of course, I have only used simple .srt subtitles. And the funny thing is, that the output plays fine on my ps3 with the correct subtitles. Again, why this error?

Thank you!!

[deank]

Update your multiAVCHD with multiUPDATE.exe and try to change the value in your ini file at line 58. It is probably 7 - set it to 14 for example.

The error about subtitles is because multiAVCHD tries to create advanced/better looking subtitles... If it fails it defaults to the standard processing and tsMuxeR creates the subtitles. That's why it works in your PS3. If you install latest JAVA probably the error will go away.

Dean

[deank]

A quick note about something I added for people with low-resolution displays:

There is a small <> button at the top which allows you to switch the positions of the progress bars and the start button group so you can see them...

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_switchB.jpg

Also in title properties / playlist you'll see which m2ts files belong to the current title / playlist, their size and duration.

For [r] [s] [m] and [p] titles you'll also see the playlist name in the Compilation box.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_tp_pl.jpg

***

There is a new option in MENU/Extended tab:

[x] Create Single-title menu pages

When using multiple titles it will make multiAVCHD to show only the current title in the menu page. For example: in a compilation with 7 titles you will always see ONLY the current title in the menu. Scrolling UP/DOWN or LEFT/RIGHT will show the other menu pages. This is useful when users use [x] Never reencode unchanged menu pages option and frequently add new titles to big compilations.

Here is the difference in a compilation with 11 titles:

option OFF:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_ST_OFF.jpg


option ON:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_ST_ON.jpg

***

It is worth to menion that using this option speeds up menu generation 2-3 times.

There were few minor changes which caused some speed improvement with all menu pages generation and preview + a workaround for the cases when x264 locks in the background without fully processing the parsed avisynth script.

Dean

[blubberbirne]

What are the settings to get the classic title list menu working? Or is it not working yet?

[flaviometal]

Deank, is it possible to change the default template folder to another directory in ini file or something? I wanna know because I like to organize all project files in another HD partition ( D:/).

This is not a request (neither so important), it's just a question... ;)

[deank]

What are the settings to get the classic title list menu working? Or is it not working yet?

By selecting [x] Add classic title-list

Deank, is it possible to change the default template folder to another directory in ini file or something? I wanna know because I like to organize all project files in another HD partition ( D:/).

This is not a request (neither so important), it's just a question... ;)

No, sorry :) I wish to keep everything under multiAVCHD's folder.

[laserfan]

By selecting [x] Add classic title-list
deank I'm not at mAVCHD computer atm but it seems to me if you check "classic list" and uncheck the general menu (for xmb etc) then there's no way to Preview the simple title list, am I right?

[deank]

There is no way to preview Title list menu at all. It is not implemented yet. :)

[laserfan]

There is no way to preview Title list menu at all. It is not implemented yet. :)Thanks for confirming--I thought I might have missed something! :o

[Capsbackup]

deank, I am noticing that when I use the set poster frame for a given title from the preview window, it inserts the appropriate time for that still image in the poster frame box. But if I select ok, and go back to that title, the poster frame #/seconds is correct, but the picture displayed is not the poster frame I selected. Should the poster frame I selected be the one displayed in the preview window when I select the title properties from the media select window? :confused:
EDIT:
Also, if I check the menu to view my selections, should the poster frames of the working titles be displayed or just your logo?

[deank]

Entering title-properties defaults to the middle of the video.
Menu preview doesn't show user-defined frame. It does for external poster .jpg files or for imported structures with HDAVCTN folder.

Don't worry - it will be okay in the final compilation.

[Capsbackup]

:( I'm not sure what happened, but the project did not work.
Recieved this error message during the process:

[09:38:14] Preparing authoring information...
[09:38:14] Creating NTSC top menu.
[09:38:15] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[09:38:15] Creating title thumbnails for 9 titles (XMB)...
[09:38:16] Using user defined title image at 108.851 sec (00:01:48.850) for title #1!
[09:38:24] Using user defined title image at 95.571 sec (00:01:35.570) for title #2!
[09:38:29] Using user defined title image at 100.166 sec (00:01:40.165) for title #3!
[09:38:34] Using user defined title image at 108.94 sec (00:01:48.939) for title #4!
[09:38:40] Using user defined title image at 85.951 sec (00:01:25.950) for title #5!
[09:38:45] Using user defined title image at 75.805 sec (00:01:15.805) for title #6!
[09:38:48] Using user defined title image at 86.134 sec (00:01:26.134) for title #7!
[09:38:53] Using user defined title image at 135.834 sec (00:02:15.834) for title #8!
[09:38:58] Using user defined title image at 97.951 sec (00:01:37.950) for title #9!
[09:39:03] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[09:39:03] Preparing menu pages...

[09:39:03] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/9] [Static title thumbnail].
[09:39:06] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multiTEMP-20100306\20100306-093815-MM001.264)
[09:39:06] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[09:39:21] Final output may be corrupted!
[09:39:21] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...

[09:39:21] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/9] [Static title thumbnail].
[09:39:24] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multiTEMP-20100306\20100306-093815-MM002.264)
[09:39:24] Error encoding main menu page #2!

[09:39:33] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/9] [Static title thumbnail].
[09:39:36] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multiTEMP-20100306\20100306-093815-MM003.264)
[09:39:36] Error encoding main menu page #3!
...
Will not play with TMT3, it crashes, and the created image will not play the menu with PowerDVD 7.3, but just starts playing the first of 9 titles, and no counter timer is displayed.

[deank]

It won't play with so many errors...

If you have the latest build, edit your .ini - line 58 and change it to 14.

You can always use "MENU PREVIEW" before starting, to be sure it will work.

[Capsbackup]

I am trying it again with this change. I am using the latest build for v4.0, at least I have run Multiupdate, and also when your program starts, it appears to have the latest build ( 734+).
Should know in about 22 min.:cool:

[Capsbackup]

Worked this time! :)
Why was this change to the .ini necessary? Have I missed something?
I do have the latest build, so how would one know to change such an item, or when is it even necessary? :confused:
This project had 9 .TS files that are reported as 1080P, 29.97fps, recorded from my DVR. I did reencoded them to reduce the file size some to fit on one BD-R. Just trying to test your program again, but if it wasn't for your quick reply, I would have been stumped! :p

[deank]

This problem is since the first build that introduced a menu in multiAVCHD. There was this option in ver 3.0 "Frames to encode: [---slider---] 2/30"... It defined how many frames avisynth should generate for a SINGLE FRAME H.264 stream that would be accepted by x264 for encoding to .264 file.

I never had problems with setting the value to 2 frames.

Few weeks ago another user had the same problem and he said that it works for him ONLY with values >6 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1373544&highlight=frames+encode#post1373544)... Today another user did some tests and said it works only with values >10. I have no idea what is it and why is it happening.

A value of 14 avisynth served frames seems to work for everyone. It however affects the speed of static menu pages generation.

You can imagine that with 2 frames it takes 7 times less time to encode a menu page (~2-3 seconds, instead of waiting for 20-30 seconds).

Here is the post about it from February last year. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247122#post1247122)

Dean

[Capsbackup]

Well I guess it is better to take a little longer and work than be quicker and fail! :p
Will this change in the .ini change with updates to MultiAVCHD?
Will the new value be a standard for this and each update?
Since I am a very infrequent user, it will be hard to remember this in the future. For me, I am most likely to use your program with many .TS files, as my previous example. So, depending on your answer, I guess it would be a concern on a fresh install if I forget to change this line 58!

[deank]

A fresh install sets it to 14. And won't let even manual ini edit to set it to a value lower than 7, so don't worry. I guess I'll have to re-enable the slider (it is hidden at the moment, because there was no proper free space for it in the GUI).

(if you delete the .ini you'll see it set to 14)

[blubberbirne]

There is no way to preview Title list menu at all. It is not implemented yet. :)

thats the info i need :thanks:

[Capsbackup]

deank;
Works great!! :)
Burned to BD-RE for playback on my Sony S360 and I am very pleased with the outcome.
Just curious, when I play the disc, all is well. When I select stop, I notice that the on-screen display from my Sony displays: BDMV - "MultiAVCHD - Planet Earth"
Is there an option to keep or eliminate this info?
I do set a volume label when I create the image with IMGBurn, yet this additional "MultiAVCHD" data is visible on screen as well.

[drelin]

@ Deank

I've just made authoring test with new options "navigation" Horizontal (slide) and vertical (xmb) for the main menu.
I report that the navigation not works properly :

On Vertical navigation with xmb option
The "Up to down" navigation works fine (play->setup->chapter->play) but the "down to up" navigation is broken at setup button (chapter<-playXsetup<-chapter)
Can you correct it and just activate "up to down" - "down to up" sens and desactivate the "right to left"- "left to right" sens for the xbm style ?

On Horizontal navigation with slide option
The "left to right" navigation is broken at setup button (play->setupXchapter->play)
The "Right to left" navigation is broken at setup button (chapter<-playXsetup<-chapter)
Can you correct it and just activate "left to right" - "right to left" sens and desactivate the "up to down"- "down to up" sens for the slide style ?

The broken link for navigation is allways on the setup button

Thank :)

[VincAlastor]

thank you for custom command line and custom x264.exe !!!

is there time to break the "32-sec-menu-bg-limit" now?

[deank]

When I select stop, I notice that the on-screen display from my Sony displays: BDMV - "MultiAVCHD - Planet Earth"
Is there an option to keep or eliminate this info?

The only place I can see it is in a line parsed to imgburn:

Identifier_Publisher=multiAVCHD

May be once you start ImgBurn you will see it somewhere. Have you seen such info when using other authoring tools or with re-authored discs from BD-RB?

@ Deank

I report that the navigation not works properly :

On Vertical navigation with xmb option
The "Up to down" navigation works fine (play->setup->chapter->play) but the "down to up" navigation is broken...

The broken link for navigation is allways on the setup button


I test to see what exactly is 'broken'.

is there time to break the "32-sec-menu-bg-limit" now?

:rolleyes: May be there will be. I'm currently programming a very big project for the office, so may be another time.

[peppies]

I don't know how more specific I have to be. The error box shows a file name (the avisynth script required to encode the menu page). You go to this file folder and play the file with MPC (Media Player Classic) or MPC-HT. When you play it the player will play a video with the actual error (probably).

Ok tried that and it says that MPC "could not render some of the pins in the graph, you may not have the needed codecs or filters intalled on your system". I have no idea what am I missing. If there were codecs missing why is it working when I turn the media split off? Can you advise what you see in the log below please? I have no idea what to look for:

C:\Users\Peter\Desktop\20100307-213152-MM001.avs::Avisynth video #1

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
Video: YV12 1920x1080 25.00fps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12 {32315659-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_VideoInfo {05589F80-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 3110400
cbFormat: 88

VIDEOINFOHEADER:
rcSource: (0,0)-(0,0)
rcTarget: (0,0)-(0,0)
dwBitRate: 0
dwBitErrorRate: 0
AvgTimePerFrame: 400000

BITMAPINFOHEADER:
biSize: 40
biWidth: 1920
biHeight: 1080
biPlanes: 1
biBitCount: 12
biCompression: YV12
biSizeImage: 3110400
biXPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biClrUsed: 0
biClrImportant: 0

pbFormat:
0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 1a 06 00 00 00 00 00 ........€.......
0030: 28 00 00 00 80 07 00 00 38 04 00 00 01 00 0c 00 (...€...8.......
0040: 59 56 31 32 00 76 2f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 YV12.v/.........
0050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........




Thanks a lot for your help and sorry if this is something obvious but I just can't see it.

[Moksu]

Hello,

I have been trying to get the latest versio to work and all i get is 200 mb "final size" with some error i got no idea what to do here is the log, what happened to old versio of this program :( did run smoothly

[deank]

Check the value of MASTER CUT END in AUTHOR tab. Probably you have entered a value different than 0, which causes trimming of your video to just few minutes.

[Capsbackup]

The only place I can see it is in a line parsed to imgburn:

Identifier_Publisher=multiAVCHD

May be once you start ImgBurn you will see it somewhere. Have you seen such info when using other authoring tools or with re-authored discs from BD-RB?

deank, I have never had this happen with BD-RB, and I always create my own image manually outside of the BD-RB project.
I have noticed that some BluRay backups done with BD-RB will have a different name than the one I provided in the UDF Label section, ex: I provide "STEPFATHER", Sony S360 BluRay player says "STEPFATHER, THE".
So there must be some meta data or something/somewhere!
The only two projects that I have used MultiAVCHD to create a BluRay from captured TV shows both have the same "MultiAVCHD - ...my label".
This is really no big deal! :p I just thought there may have been a simple explanation.