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deank
21st August 2010, 13:45
dean,

Just did the update, the poster/cover works great!

Couple of notes for those wishing to use.

-Make sure in Menu=>General the transparency slider is all the way to the right.
-As dean mentioned, [x] Create single titles is checked, it's found under Menu=>Extended

cwh

Your attachment is still not approved... I wonder what does the picture TATOO show :)

Dean

Cela
21st August 2010, 14:28
@Cela: Email me what you need from this convertor and I'll create a small GUI for it...Thanks in advance, Dean. :)
Am busy over the weekend. Will send you an email on Monday.

deank
21st August 2010, 18:20
I think it is time to add a simple menu for multiAVCHD's DVD output. Since multiAVCHD supports only ONE title in SD-DVD video mode I decided to add the latest simpler SLIDE style menu as a default one:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_DVD_menu.jpg

The menu is static, with background and cover and has only one button "Play". :rolleyes: I'll get to it probably next week.

@Capsbackup: I created 2 compilations with hidden titles and couldn't replicate the problem you had :(

Dean

Capsbackup
21st August 2010, 19:25
@Capsbackup: I created 2 compilations with hidden titles and couldn't replicate the problem you had :(
Dean

Interesting. :confused: I have now tried two more different titles, and I get the consecutive title play of all hidden titles and then the main title before it will go to the menu. I have made sure I have everything set up correctly too. Checked and double checked! :p
I have been using your BDedit tutorial to fix them, to go to the menu after the final hidden title is played, before the main title is played! :)

deank
21st August 2010, 19:58
If you can find the time, please describe each step you take and I'll follow and I guess I'll get to the problem. :)

Dean

Capsbackup
21st August 2010, 21:43
If you can find the time, please describe each step you take and I'll follow and I guess I'll get to the problem. :)

Dean

First, Add video files, 4 titles, by mpls, each created with BD-RB.
Under compilation, set title 1, 2 and 3 to hidden. Title 4 is my main feature and only non-hidden title. Set After playback for titles 1 and 2 to go to next title. Set After playback of title 3 to go to menu. Set After playback of title 4 to go to menu.
Go to Author tab, and under Menu Style and Options select Create Top Menu, Slide Menu. Under Playback Sequence, select Skip Welcome Screen and Skip Top Menu Playback, and Action After Last Title: Display Menu.
Under Menu tab/General, select Default menu type - static. Backround Image - my custom 1920x1080.bmp. Also select Create Chapter Menu Page and Create audio/subtitle setup pages.
As I mentioned before, this has worked for me on a previous multiAVCHD version. It just has not worked since then.
I reported it here, so this was the time frame, from post # 6163:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744&page=309

MrVideo
21st August 2010, 23:52
What is industry standard? USA? Europe?

Worldwide video production. Even film, telecined to video, is referenced using frame numbers (:00 -> :23).

DVB, any format, is not based on video editing/production timecode standards.

But, once the video is placed into a file for editing, DVD authoring, Blu-ray authoring, etc., the timecode is in :FF, not in :mss.

Go into any production house, anywhere in the world, and the editing/authoring program used will display in :FF. All of the time code displays on any of the video tape decks, or video servers, will be in :FF.

I've never run across anything that used anything other than :FF in my 40+ years dealing with video.

deank
22nd August 2010, 00:23
Things change. Bare MPEG2 Transport Stream (m2ts/mts) uses 45kHz clock and it has nothing to do with frames. Playlist/chapter references use 90kHz clock. No mater what your source framerate is, the clock denominator is the same - that's it.

Plus - (the industry standard in mind) - multiAVCHD is a "hall"-room application. I program it, that's it.

Dean

MrVideo
22nd August 2010, 02:14
What MPEG-2/MPEG-4/next gen does internally has nothing to do with what the human interface is with editing software, etc.

The fact that mAVCHD can deal with :FF time codes when reading in chapter lists makes me happy.

Once simple title list menu capability is added, mAVCHD will be the cat's meow.

setarip_old
22nd August 2010, 04:21
@MrVideo

Hi! Once simple title list menu capability is added, mAVCHD will be the cat's meow.Actually, I and many others who have watched multiAVCHD blossom since its nascent stage, have long been impressed with the creativity and tireless effort of "deank". The continuing tremendous expansion of this tool's capabilities has been nothing short of remarkable - and I, for one, could not offer "deank" sufficient praise.

Not only is multiAVCHD already "the cat's meow", it's "the cat's whiskers" and "the cat's pajamas" as well ;>}

MrVideo
22nd August 2010, 07:09
The continuing tremendous expansion of this tool's capabilities has been nothing short of remarkable - and I, for one, could not offer "deank" sufficient praise.

Don't get me wrong. I totally agree with what you've posted, though it may not seem like it at times.

I've never understood the "cat's pajamas", since cats don't wear pajamas and pretty much hate having anyone putting clothes on them. Dogs... that is another story. :D

deank
22nd August 2010, 18:33
So, multiAVCHD got its own menu for SD-DVD output :) It turned out that it is much easier to add than expected (thanks to the great application Muxman). It will be available in the next update, along with some fixes related to 'hidden' titles.

Dean

setarip_old
22nd August 2010, 19:30
@deank

Would that it were that simple for HD-DVD structure, eh? ;>}

deank
23rd August 2010, 07:37
:) Although not that simple - it is possible. There is no evo muxer and no menu generator for HD-DVD... I guess multiAVCHD can become the fist app to support menu for HD-DVD, too. :rolleyes:

Let me finish with SD-DVD and I'll give it a try.

Dean

JoeH
23rd August 2010, 08:25
So, multiAVCHD got its own menu for SD-DVD output :) It turned out that it is much easier to add than expected (thanks to the great application Muxman). It will be available in the next update, along with some fixes related to 'hidden' titles.

Dean

Thanks Dean. Definitely looking forward to it.

setarip_old
23rd August 2010, 08:27
@deank I guess multiAVCHD can become the fist app to support menu for HD-DVD, too.Naah, I was just teasing you ;>}

As you well know, without chapterizing and time control (and, ultimately, original subtitles), a menu would be pointless...

deank
23rd August 2010, 08:30
:devil: :p I wouldn't count on the subtitles, but may be chapters... who knows...

colinhunt
23rd August 2010, 09:36
Dean,

I'm having lots of problems with the latest version on Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate. First, I couldn't even get it to install without running the installation program as Administrator. I then had to turn UAC completely off to get multiAVCHD do anything except give error messages. Am I missing something here?

deank
23rd August 2010, 09:40
There are absolutely no changes to cause this.

Probably it depends on the folder/drive where you install it.

colinhunt
23rd August 2010, 09:44
There are absolutely no changes to cause this.
Sorry, should not have mentioned "with the latest version". I've had this same problem on W7 64-bit Ultimate for several weeks now; I actually stopped using multiAVCHD entirely because of that. This is also the third W7 64-bit Ultimate installation I've tried to run multiAVCHD on.

Probably it depends on the folder/drive where you install it.
It's in "C:\Program Files (x86)\multiAVCHD" now. Should it be installed on another drive or something?

deank
23rd August 2010, 09:51
It is better to use c:\multiAVCHD or d:\multiAVCHD for example... Also you can create .\multiAVCHD\_TEMP folder and set it security properties to allow full access not only to admin account... You can also try to set privileges to all .exe files in tools folder... I don't know what else...

colinhunt
23rd August 2010, 11:47
It is better to use c:\multiAVCHD or d:\multiAVCHD for example... Also you can create .\multiAVCHD\_TEMP folder and set it security properties to allow full access not only to admin account... You can also try to set privileges to all .exe files in tools folder... I don't know what else...
I created an "Applications" directory on another physical drive and installed multiAVCHD in it. Running first re-authoring process right now, seems to be working fine so far.

deank
23rd August 2010, 12:50
Simple SLIDE menu added in build 766 (if [x] Create top menu option is enabled) for SD-DVD mode.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_dvd_menu_sli_bsg.jpg

Dean

Beatnut
23rd August 2010, 13:39
is there a deinterlacing feature in mavchd? or any tool that can do that that is in the package?

i got a 1080i video that i want to transcode to 720p

deank
23rd August 2010, 13:43
multiAVCHD will automatically deinterlace your video. If 1080i is BFF you may want to set it in [properties]/[alter detected properties].

Beatnut
23rd August 2010, 13:49
thanks, ill try and let you know if it worked, keep up the good work.

MrVideo
23rd August 2010, 15:37
@deank Naah, I was just teasing you ;>}

Thank goodness. No offense, but a few of us would rather see the simple menu support added than support a format that is dead. :D

Beatnut
23rd August 2010, 15:55
Worked like a charm, you are the man.

deank
23rd August 2010, 16:56
:thanks:

laserfan
23rd August 2010, 17:03
:) Although not that simple - it is possible. There is no evo muxer and no menu generator for HD-DVD... I guess multiAVCHD can become the fist app to support menu for HD-DVD, too.without chapterizing and time control (and, ultimately, original subtitles), a menu would be pointless..Ulead MF6+ with HD plugin will do all of these; yes, HD-DVD, with (motion, sound) menus, and chaptering, and subtitles. Maybe you should buy/send deank this program for him to look at, or just get it for yourself and leave the poor guy alone! You're beating a dead horse! :p

@Dean, thank you for this post. The coffee wasn't enough, this got my heart started this morning!!! :eek: :D

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_dvd_menu_sli_bsg.jpg

colinhunt
23rd August 2010, 17:44
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_dvd_menu_sli_bsg.jpg
Somehow the tagline "Watch. Learn. Play. Enjoy!" gets a new meaning with this photo.

setarip_old
23rd August 2010, 21:11
To the couple of naysayers regarding "deank" acknowledging the possible creation of finishing touches to the HD-DVD functionality (which has been a working part of "multiAVCHD" for far longer than standard DVD functionality and MANY of the menu enhancements, subtitle conversion, 3D tool, etc.) - the word to think about is "Cinavia".

If "Cinavia" proves to be extremely difficult to break (although rumors to the contrary abound), we may soon see it used on the majority of new BluRay releases - and it won't faze me at all, since an HD-DVD backup of a BluRay that contains "Cinavia" protection will happily play on alternative hardware and software systems that know nothing about "Cinavia".

In light of this, should "deank" choose to finish the development of the HD-DVD function of "multiAVCHD", I think that would be wonderful. On the other hand, should he choose not to pursue this, I would still be very thankful that, at its current stage of development, I'm able to make "movie-only" HD-DVD backups of any and all BluRay discs that I purchase (And, of course, there are still "tons" of commercial HD-DVDs available for purchase for as little as $1US each ;>}).

Just another way to make certain that my grandchildren (the list is growing) never have a reason to even think of touching any of my original, commercial discs...

MrVideo
23rd August 2010, 22:42
Just another way to make certain that my grandchildren (the list is growing) never have a reason to even think of touching any of my original, commercial discs...

ROTFLMAO

1) the grandchildren count is growing (meaning your kids haven't figured out what causes babies :D )

2) you have the discs in a location where they can get at them.

setarip_old
24th August 2010, 01:41
@MrVideo

1) We prefer the word "PROLIFIC" ;>}

2) No, they can't get at them - but that won't necessarily stop them from trying...

dvd_maniac
24th August 2010, 04:06
This looks great. I want to put a whole bunch of AVCHD video onto a BD-R for playback on my PS3.
What is the max amount of video (in hours) I can fit onto br-r (25GB) using this program?

Capsbackup
24th August 2010, 04:44
This looks great. I want to put a whole bunch of AVCHD video onto a BD-R for playback on my PS3.
What is the max amount of video (in hours) I can fit onto br-r (25GB) using this program?

The max amount is about 23.6GB, so depending on your reencoding bitrate, (quality) audio type and size, this can vary.
I have done 2 hour, high quality backups to BD5, so I would think 10 - 12 hours is reasonable with 448kbps to 640kbps AC3 audio. :cool:

Music Fan
24th August 2010, 08:35
@ setarip_old : do you burn your Hd-dvd project on real Hd-dvd discs or we can burn it on dvd (like BD-5) ?

deank
24th August 2010, 08:41
Yes, he is using regular DVD5 and DVD9 with a Toshiba A2/A3 HD-DVD player. The problem at the moment is that multiAVCHD can't create menu, doesn't support chapters and subtitles and supports only one audio track (ac3).

Music Fan
24th August 2010, 08:47
Thanks for this fast response.
Hd-dvd is a good idea if this Cinavia protection becomes really problematic. But we have to buy a Hd-dvd player of course ...

titof
24th August 2010, 14:17
hi everybody
I'm trying to test MultiAVCHD but I've an error when I try to open the extended properties of a media : helpful:

AVSinfo.exe says (It's in French) :
L'instruction à "0x73aa5e67" emploie la mémoire "0x00000000". La mémoire ne peut être "read".

I try to translate : The command at "0x73aa5e67" use the memory "0x00000000". The memory can't be "read"

Help
I can't do nothing

deank
24th August 2010, 14:27
Just to wrap-up with this SD-DVD menu, the next update will include, some features I programmed today:

* Static and Motion DVD menu (32 seconds limit atm)
* Default or no background audio
* User background audio (ac3 only)
* Motion title thumbnail (32 seconds)
* Motion background (I need to test it a bit more and I'll release the build)

DVD menu will occupy about 15MB only.

In other words you'll get quite the same as in regular Blu-ray/AVCHD modes, so one can create almost identical DVD-Video discs with nice menu along with the Blu-ray/AVCHD copy.

Dean :)

@mpucoder: Can you help me a bit: Can I put a command in .hcn file (or elsewhere) to force 1st subtitle track to show at start of Title#1 playback?

titof
24th August 2010, 16:28
I didn't install AVIsynth
I'm to bad...

deank
24th August 2010, 17:28
Build 766+

* Static and Motion DVD menu + background audio

Just like other HD menu styles, SD DVD mode supports all combinations: static menu, motion background + motion title thumbnail, static background + motion title thumbnail and motion background + static title thumb (poster).

I don't know how much interest there is in SD DVD output from multiAVCHD and for now I'll assume that current features are sufficient for regular users. Converting a Blu-ray movie to SD DVD is quite simple and supports up to 8 audio and 8 subtitle tracks, the chapters, background audio and poster, cover and motion 'trailer-cuts' video background. I believe that's quite enough for almost 'one-click' solution for a HD to SD conversion.

Dean

rendez2k
24th August 2010, 21:22
I think I'm being a bit stupid! How do you select the image for the bluray box? I use the search function and select cover but its not showing up? Also, my preview bluray box appears to be half-size? I see in say your Wall-E example, it looks like a full hight box?

deank
24th August 2010, 21:37
1st, make sure you have the proper version of avisynth (2.58).

2nd, [use poster] and [use cover] do the same - the set current "POSTER" image for a title as a BACKGROUND.

To get what is in WALL-E screenshot you have to select [use cover] and then go to MENU tab and select the proper image (from .\multiAVCHD\templates\res\tmdb\ folder) as BACKGROUND and set 'transparency' to 0% (far left slider position).

It was explained some posts above.

The [search] function itself downloads some JPG files in the aforementioned folder, so you can select it as BG or title-thumb picture. In one of the next builds I'll add a prompt if user want so use the [USE POSTER] image as background in custom menu preset.

Dean

mpucoder
25th August 2010, 03:01
@mpucoder: Can you help me a bit: Can I put a command in .hcn file (or elsewhere) to force 1st subtitle track to show at start of Title#1 playback?

I'm not familiar with .hcn files, they are not inpput to MuxMan. There are 2 ways a subtitle can be enabled, by force or by default. Forcing involves the commands within the subpicture stream as well as SetSTN in the PGC. Defaulting can be done with SetSTN alone.

What process is being used to create the .mxp file?

rendez2k
25th August 2010, 07:39
1st, make sure you have the proper version of avisynth (2.58).

2nd, [use poster] and [use cover] do the same - the set current "POSTER" image for a title as a BACKGROUND.

To get what is in WALL-E screenshot you have to select [use cover] and then go to MENU tab and select the proper image (from .\multiAVCHD\templates\res\tmdb\ folder) as BACKGROUND and set 'transparency' to 0% (far left slider position).

It was explained some posts above.

The [search] function itself downloads some JPG files in the aforementioned folder, so you can select it as BG or title-thumb picture. In one of the next builds I'll add a prompt if user want so use the [USE POSTER] image as background in custom menu preset.

Dean

Thanks, I think one of the problems I was having is that if I go back and select a new cover image after previewing, the preview doesn't appear to update with the new cover image (background image works fine).

deank
25th August 2010, 08:51
I'm not familiar with .hcn files, they are not inpput to MuxMan. There are 2 ways a subtitle can be enabled, by force or by default. Forcing involves the commands within the subpicture stream as well as SetSTN in the PGC. Defaulting can be done with SetSTN alone.

What process is being used to create the .mxp file?

I'm using Batchmux to the .mxp file. .hcn contains for example

set ::vmg::menupages 1
set ::vmg::menutype(1) 1
set ::vmg::titlebut(1) 1

JoeH
25th August 2010, 11:46
Dean, as far as SD functionality goes, it is quite good. I think the main thing that is missing is that the language codes be applied for subtitles and audio. I haven't tested the latest version, but I remember that with previous versions all languages codes would be blank in the SD-DVD, and they would all appear as "unknown". Ideally when resizing a Blu-ray, multiAVCHD would read the language codes from the selected tracks in the DVD and apply the correct language codes in the new DVD automatically.

Capsbackup
25th August 2010, 15:32
deank, I just made a backup that included three hidden titles, all 480i trailers from a Blu-ray source mpls, and one main feature, 1080p from a BD-RB backup.
The consecutive title play before going to the menu is still there, so I don't believe that was part of the last update. However, I noticed that I am also unable to select the two available subtitles that are present on the Setup page.
They are listed, English and Spanish, but the highlight button is unable to select either. The only available highlights are the one and only audio track and the (X) to close the page. :confused: It just passes around the actual two subtitle options.

NOTE: I can select the subtitles during playback thru the remote, and they do work. Just not thru the setup menu page.

EDIT: If I remove the subtitles and add them back via add external subtitles, it still does not make them selectable thru the setup menu page, but they do work when playing the movie back thru the remote, as stated above. :confused: