multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[Rodger]

Just a little Update-Info about my problem with the Pioneer BDP-LX52.

Problem solved! x264 was the bad guy!
So I really would sugguest EVERYONE to update x264 to Jeebs Rev.1336 located here http://x264.fushizen.eu/

Brand new with loads of fixes that obviously do the trick getting back to AVCHD compliancy.

[deank]

Thanks, Roger. I updated the version in the full download of multiAVCHD and let users @ multiForum about your post.

[rotty]

Hi Dean

Since updating to the latest version of AVCHD the TRANSCODE button is greyed out. Can you help

Thanks

[deank]

Transcode is available only for certain filetypes/containers and for 'join/split' mode of imported playlists. Nothing is changed in the last build.

[rotty]

Transcode is available only for certain filetypes/containers and for 'join/split' mode of imported playlists. Nothing is changed in the last build.

Hi Dean

Found that if I click join/split its there now each time.

Thanks

[rotty]

Hi Dean

Found that if I click join/split its there now each time.

Thanks

What I do is split the audio + sub off into its own folder, copy the video only into its own folder, get the size of the audio + sub, thake that away from total size available, take the video length (time) and work out the bitrate needed to transcode the video. It always makes use of whole disc then for the 25Gig compressed version. (this is for movie only backup)

[deank]

In transcode window you have 'bitrate suggestions' which take into account the audio and subtitle streams. Also if you use ^ v buttons next to bitrate you will see estimation of the final size.

[rotty]

In transcode window you have 'bitrate suggestions' which take into account the audio and subtitle streams. Also if you use ^ v buttons next to bitrate you will see estimation of the final size.

I have tried doing it that way but it mostly either ends up too large or falls well short of disc available. Is this me using the option incorrectly or because the audio is VBR and therefore would need to demux audio first to get true size

[mikeathome]

Ok I have given up on traying to transcode 1080p (progressive) VC-1 because pyTiVo can easily transfer those types of MKV's to my TiVo. I will worry about transcoding them to H.264 at a later time so that I can play them on my BD390. Kinda hoping that thier promise to support VC-1 MKV's will come sooner than later...

Now I am strictly working on Interlaced 1080i VC-1 files and finding a solution to convert those to H.264. As they won't play on a TiVo or BD390. Only my computer :(

Currently Torchwood, & Red Dwarf: Back to earth are all encoded using interlaced VC-1.

When trying to process an "extra" for Red Dwarf, that is in Interlaced VC-1 it never outputed anything. Empty AVCHD/Stream folder.

I tried in the setting tab checking "use FFMS2 instead of Directshow" and unchecking that same option as well.

Directshow does have VC-1 decoding/encoding set to WMV9
It also has h.264/AVC set to libavcodec

Audio is set to Core only (DTS-HD to DTS)

The log file is as follows:

WTC

Workaround -if you are interested and until deank finds a solution in multiAVCHD.

You can use neuron's DGVC1DecNV (for NVidea) and create an index file which opens in AVISynth. This will always produce a valid input for x264 leading to a successful encode (VC-1, AVC, MPEG2).

mike

[CoolHandPuke]

I am having trouble with the new release.

When I add video file and set preferences, namley transcoding insane 1 pass and fit ti all dvd5. I am able to start the process but then hangs for around 5 minutes and reports this error


[11:53:28] *** Stand-by for indexing (ffms2)...

[11:53:28] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [02:29:53]
[11:57:41] Cannot detect file size: (D:\Downloads\Movies\xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[1280x720-23.976].264)
[11:57:41] *** Speed : 852.75 fps (elapsed: 00:04:12 - Realtime x 35.57)

[11:57:41] Cannot detect file size: (D:\Downloads\Movies\xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(2009)\Traxxxxxxxxxx[1280x720-23.976].264)
[11:57:41] *** Transcoding failed!
[11:57:41] *** Check ffdshow/avisynth/haali (reinstall)!


[11:57:41] tsMuxer didn't like (D:\Downloads\Movies\xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[11:57:41] No compatible folders/files processed...


Any ideas why this is happening, was working peerfectly before

[deank]

Please remove your post.

[CoolHandPuke]

sorry removed, what was wrong with my post lol

[CoolHandPuke]

I can only assume that it showed details of files that I should not have posted. Did you get the error and do you have any ideas Dean?

[deank]

Read the forum rules and you will know.

Go to SETTINGS tab and uncheck [x] Use FFms2 and try your video again.

If it doesn't work, then you'll have to reinstall your avisynth and directshow codecs.

[CoolHandPuke]

thought so, sorry my friend.

Ok so checked settings, that was already unchecked, seems it is going to that setting by itself? I have already updated avisynth and directshow, unless you have direct links for more up to date ones than I found.

Thanks for your help Dean

[CoolHandPuke]

Ok seems I cannot get it to work.

It seems that the program is having trouble dececting filesize and then tries to transcode with FFMS2 which also fails.

[deank]

"Cannot detect filesize" is a message which is issued after transcoding as a check if transcoding was successful. It means that multiAVCHD cannot encode your file neither with ffsm2 nor directshow, which means there is a problem with avisynth or your file.

[mikeathome]

@deank
I think I ask you that before: can you implement DGIndexNV as a choice (leave it to folks to decide if they want to use it and donate to neuron). It will simplify things not only for you :-)

mike

[CoolHandPuke]

Ok really strange, I converted a film lasy night and burned to this morning.

Set to work on another file today and got the error I showed you.

Just to narrow things down I uninstalled everything including multiavchd, corepack and every codec i could find and re installed CCP and avisynth and multiAVCH and bingo works again.

Very strange though, dont understand what happened I never changed anything so why did it stop working.

Oh well at least im back in the game.

Thanks for you help Dean

[IanD]

A great tool, however is it possible to provide an option to simply create a BD-R menu structure from a few m2ts files, without demuxing/remuxing or modifying those m2ts files?

There are some situations where I don't really need to strip streams out of an m2ts file and so it would be quicker and avoid any potential sync issues not to modify them in any way.

[deank]

Remuxing is performed because .clpi and .mpls files are required and they are created by tsMuxeR. This step cannot be skipped at the moment.

Dean

[Antenne519]

Just two short questions:
- Can I make AVCHD's with more than one audio (language) track per video? (I recently began to archive some (HD)recordings from my Icord HD on double-layer dvds.) I've searched the net but found no final answer to this.
- When I make my own backgrounds (xmb) from jpg images than the colors get dark and distorted (esp. red is missing). Is there some trick to avoid this?

[deank]

1) Yes
2) Try to use JPEG files with 16/24bit (or less) color depth

[yonexsp]

I can't get HD DVD encodes working.

I ripped my copy of Coraline as a test and converted it using BD Rebuilder with the HD DVD compliant flag set to 1.

The once that was finished I imported it into multiAVCHD, and ran it to created HD DVD disc

multiAVCHD reported that it was HD DVD compliant and re-encoded the AC3 track, then successfully created the evo files.

Once I burnt it to a DL disc using imgburn I tried to play it on my HD DVD player.

But I get the sound OK, but the image is a mess. It plays about 5fps witgh multiple frames at once, tons of pixelation.

What am I doing wrong?

Is it screwed up because the original is VC-1 codec?

Help gratefully accepted

[setarip_old]

@yonexsp

Hi!

Did you PLAY the BD-RB output (To see if it plays properly) before using multiAVCHD?

[yonexsp]

@yonexsp

Hi!

Did you PLAY the BD-RB output (To see if it plays properly) before using multiAVCHD?


Yes, plays perfectly on my BD player and the m2ts plays perfectly in WPC-HD

[mikeathome]

I can't get HD DVD encodes working.

I ripped my copy of Coraline as a test and converted it using BD Rebuilder with the HD DVD compliant flag set to 1.

The once that was finished I imported it into multiAVCHD, and ran it to created HD DVD disc

multiAVCHD reported that it was HD DVD compliant and re-encoded the AC3 track, then successfully created the evo files.

Once I burnt it to a DL disc using imgburn I tried to play it on my HD DVD player.

But I get the sound OK, but the image is a mess. It plays about 5fps witgh multiple frames at once, tons of pixelation.

What am I doing wrong?

Is it screwed up because the original is VC-1 codec?

Help gratefully accepted

Hi,
use PowerDVD 7 | 8 (with HD DVD addon) and play your content off the harddisk folder. Does it play alright?

You don't have PowerDVD, no prob DL VLC 1.0.3. Goto advanced settings; in the demuxer settings choose the ffmpeg demuxer.
In the output modules select MMAP and enable MMAP. That will make VLC playback you EVOs (A&V no subpics, no chapters, plain evo only).

Does it play alright?

If any of these play alright it is the Raw Media you burned the content onto. Use a decent Media like Verbatim or Sony (no noname crap).

What SAP are you using? What is the firmware revision.

On the Toshiba players there is a recent version 4.0. Only this version I could use successfully.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/blu-ray-dvd-disc-media-players/5281-firmware-update-now-up-4-0-2nd-gen-hd-a2-d2-a20-xa2-xe1.html#post40520

In ImgBurn you have to set UDF 2.50. Burn an empty VIDEO_TS folder together with the HD DVD folders onto the disc to create a hybride DVD/HD DVD helps to detect the media. The empty VIDEO_TS comes with multiAVCHD.

mike

[yonexsp]

Hi,
use PowerDVD 7 | 8 (with HD DVD addon) and play your content off the harddisk folder. Does it play alright?

You don't have PowerDVD, no prob DL VLC 1.0.3. Goto advanced settings; in the demuxer settings choose the ffmpeg demuxer.
In the output modules select MMAP and enable MMAP. That will make VLC playback you EVOs (A&V no subpics, no chapters, plain evo only).

Does it play alright?

If any of these play alright it is the Raw Media you burned the content onto. Use a decent Media like Verbatim or Sony (no noname crap).

What SAP are you using? What is the firmware revision.

On the Toshiba players there is a recent version 4.0. Only this version I could use successfully.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/blu-ray-dvd-disc-media-players/5281-firmware-update-now-up-4-0-2nd-gen-hd-a2-d2-a20-xa2-xe1.html#post40520

In ImgBurn you have to set UDF 2.50. Burn an empty VIDEO_TS folder together with the HD DVD folders onto the disc to create a hybride DVD/HD DVD helps to detect the media. The empty VIDEO_TS comes with multiAVCHD.

mike


It's not the media, as when I play the evo files directly off my HD I get the same problem, regardless of s/w player.

imgburn knows it hd dvd and set the right parameters so no issues there.

[yonexsp]

as the content is HD DVD compliant, shoudl it not take but 10-20 minutes to create the evo files?

multiAVCHD is reporting a processing time of 1.5hrs when I start, seems very long when no transcoding is required

[Music Fan]

You could maybe try to make an AVCHD in place of an Hd-dvd, because it's also burned on a dvd.
But the VC1 is not readable on all players when burned in AVCHD mode.
And the video rate is maybe too high for a dvd (depending of the player).

[yonexsp]

You could maybe try to make an AVCHD in place of an Hd-dvd, because it's also burned on a dvd.
But the VC1 is not readable on all players when burned in AVCHD mode.
And the video rate is maybe too high for a dvd (depending of the player).


The bitrate should not affect playback from the hard drive, also the point for me is to create a HD DVD not an AVCHD.

[Music Fan]

Ok, but do you really need to make a Hd-dvd and not an Avchd ?
If yes, you can try anyway to do an AVCHD with a short extract of your evo file, just to see if it works.
Your player may be unable to read it (because of the VC1 codec), but with your HD it could work.
If it works, it means that VC1 is not the problem and that MultiAVCHD cannot create EVO files properly.

[mikeathome]

I assume you re-encode with BD Rebuilder, right?
It does re-encode with x264, right?

Source material is VC-1?

Well I had some issues with re-encoding VC-1. The only reliable method I found was to use neuron's DGIndex. Described in this post: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148907
You can use the same way until authoring and just import the new h264 file into multiAVCHD and it will accept it. Don't need the 3:2 pulldown step with h264info.

AND

Try if you get a h264 re-encode working.

mike

[yonexsp]

Ok, but do you really need to make a Hd-dvd and not an Avchd ?
If yes, you can try anyway to do an AVCHD with a short extract of your evo file, just to see if it works.
Your player may be unable to read it (because of the VC1 codec), but with your HD it could work.
If it works, it means that VC1 is not the problem and that MultiAVCHD cannot create EVO files properly.

HD DVD Players don't support AVCHD

[yonexsp]

I assume you re-encode with BD Rebuilder, right?
It does re-encode with x264, right?

Source material is VC-1?

Well I had some issues with re-encoding VC-1. The only reliable method I found was to use neuron's DGIndex. Described in this post: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148907
You can use the same way until authoring and just import the new h264 file into multiAVCHD and it will accept it. Don't need the 3:2 pulldown step with h264info.

AND

Try if you get a h264 re-encode working.

mike

Just checked, the input m2ts file I am using from BD Rebuilder is x264 and is reported as HD DVD compliant by multiAVCHD, as I set this in BD-RB when I transcoded the file.

The mt2s plays fine on my PC etc. It is the remuxed evo's that are screwey

[mikeathome]

Just checked, the input m2ts file I am using from BD Rebuilder is x264 and is reported as HD DVD compliant by multiAVCHD, as I set this in BD-RB when I transcoded the file.

The mt2s plays fine on my PC etc. It is the remuxed evo's that are screwey

OK, we are getting closer. Try re-mux to a .ts with TSMuxer or demux altogether to a .264 elementary stream and import that into multiAVCHD. Don't forget to add the AC3

mike

[yonexsp]

OK, we are getting closer. Try re-mux to a .ts with TSMuxer or demux altogether to a .264 elementary stream and import that into multiAVCHD. Don't forget to add the AC3

mike

Isn't that what multiAVCHD is for? Seems like going backwards now

[mikeathome]

Isn't that what multiAVCHD is for? Seems like going backwards now

NO troubleshooting, try to figure out if multiAVCHD might has an issue with the .m2ts you created in the step before. Try to demux to .264 and .ac3 then mux with hddvdmux and see if that is ok.

hddvdmux.exe file.264 file.ac3 drive:\outputpath 4172724

The hddvdmux.exe you will find in the \tools folder of multiAVCHD.
If that works Dean knows what to look for...

mike

[yonexsp]

ding that now. I did notice that the m2ts file had 2 audio tracks
1 DD 684kb by the look of it, and one regular DD 384 track,

wonde if that is cusing issues. I am usng just the 384 with HDDVDMUX

[setarip_old]

@yonexspimgburn knows it hd dvd and set the right parameters so no issues there.Actually, if you have a proper complete "package", it should include a "VIDEO_TS" folder, which should cause IMGBurn to generate messages asking if you want to correct the selected UDF 2.50 / UDF settings - to which you should respond "No" (both times)...

multiAVCHD is reporting a processing time of 1.5hrs when I startThis should not be. Are you sure that, in multiAVCHD, you selected "Start" and then selected the red "HD-DVD" button?

[yonexsp]

nope, hddvdmux creates evo files with the same problem, :(

[yonexsp]

Maybe BD-RB, in thati t says it is creating hd dvd compliant files, but no compliant enough fo hddvdmux.

multiAVCHD says the file is compliant as well. I need a smaller file to test with

[setarip_old]

@yonexsp

I have used BD-RB together with multiAVCHD to successfully convert many dozens to HD-DVDs playable on both standalone HD-DVD players and PCs.

I believe that in order to be successful, you MUST set BD-RB to a two-pass mode...

Also, you can always do the conversion using ONLY multiAVCHD - first to compress your ripped original (select"Transcode" and then select the "BluRay/AVCHD/HD-DVD" compatible mode. When it's finished, load the .M2TS file back into multiAVCHD. It should indicate that the file is H.264 compatible. Clixk the "Start" button, select "HD-DVD" and then select "OK")

[deank]

It is better 1st to select [Create HD-DVD title] and then [Blu-ray/AVCHD/HD-DVD compliant] (without leaving transcode window)... just to make sure frame size and frame rate are set to 1920x1080@23.976 if not already.

[Music Fan]

HD DVD Players don't support AVCHD
I know, but I also said that it was mostly to test on your HD the m2ts (and not EVO as I wrote above, sorry) created by MultiAVCHD to see if it handles correctly your VC1 file.

[Music Fan]

Sorry, I believed that you kept the original VC1 file because you didn't talk clearly about the H264 re-encoding in your first post.
(...)
I ripped my copy of Coraline as a test and converted it using BD Rebuilder with the HD DVD compliant flag set to 1.(...)

[Music Fan]

Hi Dean,
I would like to add chapters on a file and I know exactly on which frames i wanna do that, but I see 3 numbers after the last point in title properties, chapters, and the frames that i found are shown on 2 numbers (with Womble Mpeg Video Wizard).
With a mpeg-2 file, if I wanna put a chapter (for example) at 13m07s23frames, how do I have to write it ?
Should I divide seconds into thousandths ?
As the framerate is 29.97, I guess that I have to do like this : 23/29.97 = 767, thus 00:13:07.767 but I'm not sure.
Thanks.

[deank]

Yes, exactly like that, although chapter jumps may not be as precise if not close to (or exactly at) an IDR frame.

[Music Fan]

Thanks !
Do you recommand another program to find chapters index in thousandths in place of frames ?
Virtual Dub Mod can do that, but it's not as practical as Mpeg Video Wizard.

[Music Fan]

I have a "little" problem : my mpeg-2 file lasts 27m54s with Virtual Dub Mod (VDM), 27m57s with Mpeg Video Wizard (MVW), and 27m59s with MultiAVCHD. A five seconds gap is huge.
So, if I choose the frames for the chapters with VDM or MVW, it won't match with MultiAVCHD that will put chapters index on other frames.
I burned this file on a dvd-rw and my BD player shows the same duration than MultiAVCHD (good point).
Thus the best solution would be to be able to advance (and back up) frame by frame, or better, keyframe by keyframe in the "title properties" tab.
It would be great if you could add this possibility, but I don't know if it's easy or not.