multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[flaviometal]

Dean, a request: what about chapters menu with chapter names instead thumbs for music videos?

EDIT: OR, I can use a simple Title List instead chapter menu, and set this Title List as chapter menu link. Sorry! ;)

[deank]

Couple of things in the last update:

* Poster frame field in title [properties] now accepts values in 4 formats:

ssss.ms
hh:mm:ss
hh:mm:ss:fr (exactly 2 digits after the colon : sign) (frames 00 / fps-1) (00 to 23 for 23.976 and 24.000 sources for example)
hh:mm:ss.mls (exactly 3 digits after the dot . sign) (milliseconds 000 / 999)

The value will always be converted to seconds.ms.

Valid examples:

1234.56 or 1234.567 or 1234
01:02:03
01:02:03:04 (but not 01:02:03:8)
01:02:03.567 (but not 01:02:03.56 or 01:02:03.5)

* Fixed: Opening title properties with poster-frame already set, displayed wrong preview (calculation error)

* Added: Option to create time-lapse image slideshow when importing JPG/PNG/BMP images. The difference is that "Picture still duration" can take hidden (negative) values to indicate still duration in FRAMES, allowing the user to create time-lapse (one picture per frame):

1) Set TV System in AUTHOR tab: NTSC will use 23.976fps, PAL/PAL 24p will use 25fps
2) Load you picture folder

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_slideshow_props.jpg

3) Select "Transition effects: [none]"
4) Select "[-] Randomize picture order" (unticked)
5) Set desired resolution

and most important:

6) Picture still duration: 0 <-- using zero will make multiAVCHD generate 1 frame per picture

This option has hidden features:

Using value of 0 or -1 will get you 1 frame per picture.
Using values <-1 will get you abs() frames per picture.

For example using -2 will get you 2 frames per picture.

7) Set "Number of pictures per title:' to the total number of your still pictures (or use 0).

I did a quick test and I got 797 pictures in NTSC converted to 33 seconds of video @24fps (with 0 option, 1 frames per pic)

[12:54:01] *** [AVS] Detecting script properties [Picture slideshow (797 pictures)[MAVCPSS-001].avs]...
[12:58:52] *** [AVS] Video: 720x480 @ 23.976fps, Duration: [00:00:33.279]
[12:58:52] [TRANSCODE]: Title#01 4000 kbps, 720x480 -> 720x480

You can set the bitrate and all for picture-to-video-encoding in the [transcode] window. Importing so many pictures via avisynth may be time/CPU consuming. On my laptop it took ~20 mins for import+detection+encoding to get these 33 seconds of video.

Dean

[Capsbackup]

@deank;
I am having a problem using create motion title thumbnail. I have 10 .m2ts media files, to create a BD5 AVCHD, and have a 59 second .m2ts menu file.
When I select Main Menu Preview with Create Motion Title thumbnail selected, nothing happens, no preview. If I deselect Create Motion Title thumbnail, then the menu preview is displayed, but then no motion title thumbnails.
If I try to run the project anyway, I get an .avs error during the .XMB motion title thumbnail encoding stage. :confused:
What am I missing?

[deank]

What is the avs error? Is the menu .m2ts file AVC/H.264? The duration of these m2ts files is > than 1 min, right?

Can you preview the chapter or setup pages and then click [main] and then 'Actual preview...'?

[Capsbackup]

Well I have tried .m2ts and .ts, created/reencoded with UncropMKV and MeGui from an original Bluray VC1 file, that is 59 seconds long.
I have no chapter or setup pages, only motion title thumbnails. If I unselect the create motion title thumbnail check box, I then get to view the main menu, but with just the blue thumbnail colors for the thumbnails. When create motion title thumbnail check box is selected, no more preview!
The error occurs only if I continue to create a bluray, after the tsMuxeR stage at the beginning of the encode XMB motion menu stage for the first of 10 thumbnails. It asks me to continue and notify the author, which I do, and then does the same for the next motion title thumbnail, etc..
I tried to run the project just to see if it would work without giving the menu preview, but not so!

[deank]

It asks that you play the AVS file - check the error and THEN YOU report it to me. :) multiAVCHD reports nothing to me. :)

While at the prompt, try to play the AVS with MPC for example. WHen you click [yes] multiAVCHD tries to play the avs with mplayer. If it doesn't start or quickly closes it means a serious problem.

I haven't changed anything about motion menu generation, so it must be something specific to the background video m2ts file.

[Capsbackup]

I said yes to report it to you! :)
From the log:
[07:46:02] Preparing menu pages...

[07:46:03] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/10] [Motion title thumbnail].
[07:46:07] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[07:46:51] Final output may be corrupted!
[07:46:51] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...

[07:46:52] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/10] [Motion title thumbnail].
[07:46:55] Error encoding main menu page #2!

[07:47:27] Encoding motion XMB menu page [3/10] [Motion title thumbnail].
[07:47:31] Error encoding main menu page #3!

[deank]

Well.. may be I'll need to rephrase myself in that error-box message. multiAVCHD doesn't ever ever send anything anywhere anyway.

When you get the error prompt, don't click yes or now. Copy/paste the path to the menu .avs file and try to play it with MPC to see what error you will get.

[Capsbackup]

Ok, will run it again.
Interesting, I have now tried several different menu files, and none will show a preview, but the menu will display only if motion title thumbnail is deselected! :confused:

Side note:
I remember reading about the 30-32 second delay when choosing real time preview of menu. I experience this when it worked fine yesterday.
Is there any coincidence?
What is the proper way to correct this delay, or is there one?

[Capsbackup]

The error;

DEBUB: play 'c:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multitemp-20100618\20100618-084540-MM001.avs'
[and report the error to the author]
Yes No

AVS error : ConvertFPS: New frame rate too small. Must be greater than 279.3257. Increase or use 'zone='
(c:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multitemp-20100618\20100618-084540-MM001.avs, line 34)

[deank]

The delay is unrelated to the 'actual preview'. multiAVCHD uses avsinfo.exe tool for most of the things now, so you may have to allow its use in ffdshow, but for motion menu preview mplayer is used.

[deank]

AVS error : ConvertFPS: New frame rate too small. Must be greater than 279.3257. Increase or use 'zone='
(c:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multitemp-20100618\20100618-084540-MM001.avs, line 34)

What is the actual framerate of this bg video?

It seems that directshow can't properly decode it. It looks like it is detected as 600fps...

If you just started experiencing such troubles it means something has changed on your end. As I said - there are no changes in multiAVCHD for motion menu for at least one month (and even more).

[Capsbackup]

deank, I used multiAVCHD yesterday to make a BD25 of Life, 11 episodes total with motion title thumbnails, and it worked perfectly. I burned to BD-RE and all is well!
Today I am trying to put the extras on a BD5, approx. 110 minutes plus this same menu/.m2ts file. When I started the program today, I did allow the latest update, but have not done anything else but import the newly encoded extras into a new project, but I am using the same motion menu file that worked yesterday!

From Mediainfo:

General
ID : 1
Complete name : G:\Life Extras\Life Extras Menu.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 33.5 MiB
Duration : 59s 809ms
Overall bit rate : 4 697 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Duration : 59s 759ms
Bit rate : 4 054 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 4 000 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.065
Stream size : 28.9 MiB (86%)
Writing library : x264 core 98 r1643 59a9e03
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=tff / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=31 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4000 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=14000 / vbv_bufsize=14500 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=vbr
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 59s 808ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 3.19 MiB (10%)
Language : English

[deank]

I guess there is something with these 'extras', because the motion thumbnail is extracted from the title m2ts file.

It has nothing to do with the update from today.

At the moment the prompt appears there are AT*****.MTS files in TEMP folder. These are the cuts used for motion thumbnail. Check their info with media info. Also what is the exact content of the line with the error in the AVS file? There should be some 'changeFPS', too...

[Capsbackup]

The exact MPC/AVS error is what I included before. That error was directly from MPC.
Media Info from one reencoded extra:

General
ID : 1
Complete name : D:\Life Extras\D100003 The Making of Challenges of Life.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 434 MiB
Duration : 11mn 3s
Overall bit rate : 5 487 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Duration : 11mn 3s
Bit rate : 4 807 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 4 600 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.097
Stream size : 380 MiB (88%)
Writing library : x264 core 98 r1643 59a9e03
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4600 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=14000 / vbv_bufsize=14500 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=vbr
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 11mn 3s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 35.5 MiB (8%)
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 6s 632ms
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 4609 (0x1201)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 125ms
Language : French

Text #3
ID : 4610 (0x1202)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 125ms
Language : Spanish

[deank]

AVS error : ConvertFPS: New frame rate too small. Must be greater than 279.3257. Increase or use 'zone='
(c:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multitemp-20100618\20100618-084540-MM001.avs, line 34)

My question was what is the content of LINE 34 in the .avs file. You can open it with notepad.

I really have no idea what is wrong here.

[Capsbackup]

My question was what is the content of LINE 34 in the .avs file. You can open it with notepad.

I really have no idea what is wrong here.

Sorry, I deleted it and was going to start over and try again.
Rebooted into Windows XP Pro to see if things were any different than in Win 7, but no luck, same exact experience! :(
So now I am SOL! :p
I have no idea what could have happened either.
As long as I don't use motion title thumbnails, the preview menu displays. If I select it, no display. :confused:
I guess it is time to take a break. :rolleyes:

[deank]

Okay... have in mind that you can also send me the contents of the .avs script found in .\templates\temp

when doing the preview with the motion thumb. No need to start a compilation.

You should have 2 files there... I think. :p

[Capsbackup]

I may have found something related to my problem. My successful attempt yesterday for the episodes of Life were all created with BD-RB using movie only mode, custom size and selecting the alternate playlist for each episode.
I imported those .m2ts files into multiAVCHD, and all worked perfectly. :)
The extras were encoded using MeGui, AVCHD BD5/9 profile.
So for a test, I just encoded three of the extras with uncropMKV, imported those into a new project, used my same menu .m2ts, and the three motion title thumbnails/preview now work! :)
Perhaps MeGui's AVCHD profile or something within the reencode using MeGui is at fault!
I am now reencoding the rest of the extras using uncropMKV and will try all those new files into a new project.
I will let you know, and hopefully, with your help, have discovered the problem! :cool:

[deank]

Ok, thanks Caps for the update.

I hope you're using uncropMKV 1.55. :)

Also don't forget that you can reencode all the extras with multiAVCHD, too. There is no need for this 2-step process. Just mark all for transcoding and let multiAVCHD do its job.

[bc55]

Hi guys,

please excuse me for being the total nube here ;-)

I only got a BD writer yesterday, and have started using MultiAVCHD today.

No probs so far on the creation itself, but a strange issue ( to me ) upon burning with IMGBurn.

I selected for MultiAVCHD to create a BD-R structure, and it proceeded as expected, result was 24.292GB. When I put a BD-RE into my LG writer, after formatting, it gave me a size mismatch warning ( only 12.219.312 sectors on media ), which I confirmed. It's presently burning, and I'll see whether it works or not, but I would have expected the output size to be exactly, or a bit under the size of a BD-R disc.

Do I have to adapt something in the settings for this ?

Cheers

BC55

[deank]

I can't really help with this one. Some folks posted that doing FULL format of the BD-RE will give some more space, but someone with more experience will have to join.

[Capsbackup]

Ok, thanks Caps for the update.

I hope you're using uncropMKV 1.55. :)

Also don't forget that you can reencode all the extras with multiAVCHD, too. There is no need for this 2-step process. Just mark all for transcoding and let multiAVCHD do its job.

Darn, using 1.51. Oh well, will update later.
Presently doing each file individually with uncropMKV, then importing into multiAVCHD. I was just trying a few files first to see if that was the problem, then just continued on from there. But that is good to know! I can try that next time. :)

[bc55]

I can't really help with this one. Some folks posted that doing FULL format of the BD-RE will give some more space, but someone with more experience will have to join.

Hi,

thanks for replying so quickly.

Awesome tool, man !

Are you yourself aware of a discrepancy between BD-R and BD-RE size(s) in terms of storage space ?

Perhaps in a future update, you could make the target size adjustable ( in blocks perhaps, like IMGBUrn reports ) ?!

Cheers

BC55

[deank]

Darn, using 1.51. Oh well, will update later.

1.51 is okay. 1.55 changes some options like no more than 3 bframes and ref-frames are strictly according to standard (+preview when you drag the preview-slider).

If you use 3 b-frames and 4 ref frames (or 3 as default) - all should be okay.

It's getting harder to keep up with all these tools updates. :(

Btw, uncropMKV latest executable is always available here (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/uncropMKV.exe). The same goes for goSUP, easySUP, multiAVCHD, goBD. :)

Dean

[deank]

Are you yourself aware of a discrepancy between BD-R and BD-RE size(s) in terms of storage space ?

Perhaps in a future update, you could make the target size adjustable ( in blocks perhaps, like IMGBUrn reports ) ?!

I never burned a single BD-R/RE in my life. I share the info I got from numerous posts about capacity differences between BD-R and properly formatted BD-RE.

multiAVCHD sizes are set for BD-R. I don't think I'll change that. Just format your rewritable properly and you'll get what you need. :p

[bc55]

I never burned a single BD-R/RE in my life. I share the info I got from numerous posts about capacity differences between BD-R and properly formatted BD-RE.

multiAVCHD sizes are set for BD-R. I don't think I'll change that. Just format your rewritable properly and you'll get what you need. :p

Ah.

Actually, IMGBurn formatted it automatically itself .....

I'll run a few tests.

EDIT :

Tests done. The actual, useable size on a BD-R is NOT identical to that of a standard Blu Ray disc. In fact, it is less. On paper, indeed, a BD-25 has 25 GB / 23866 MiB / 25025314816 B capacity. A BD-R has about 5% less. The image that MultiAVCHD creates is 24.877MiB ( in fact, LARGER than the standard Blu Ray capacity ), and the space on the BD-R is 23.570MiB.

So, I guess the size is too large for the destination media ..... would be a shame to not be able to use your great tool because of a technical issue .....

[deank]

Well.. multiAVCHD doesn't do 100% accurate final size prediction. I'd want to allow for at least 5% (-) margin.

[bc55]

Well.. multiAVCHD doesn't do 100% accurate final size prediction. I'd want to allow for at least 5% (-) margin.

Hm.

In the AUTHOR Tab under GENERAL, if I change the transcode media fit to 23500, will that have ANY effect on the re4sulting AVCHD size if I select Blu Ray as the output format ?!

Will selecting AVCHD change the preset size values ?!

I'm just grasping for straws here, it's frustrating to have a brilliant quality AVCHD folder all done, and it won't fit on any BD-R media because of a few hundred MiBs ..... :thanks:

[deank]

Unless you're transcoding the video - it won't make any difference. You can try to [TRIM END] in [PROPERTIES] and cut few mins from the video.

[Capsbackup]

:) Success! :thanks:
MultiAVCHD works again. :p
Maybe I should have listened to you long ago and tried uncropMKV. :o Could have saved quite some time on this one!
So it appears MeGui's DVD5/9 profile encodes are not compatible with multiAVCHD motion menu thumbnails.
Thanks again deank, for helping me through this one!

[deank]

uncropMKV is unpretentious little tool.

It uses proper/compliant options for h.264/avc encoding with x264. BD-Rebuilder uses compliant options, too, and multiAVCHD as well. :cool:

[insaneoctane]

Okay. So I've got at least 5 avchd movies that are vc1 based that are causing me trouble and if like suggestions how to bring them into compliance so mavchd can deal with them. History is simple, they came from blu ray and have only been processed in tsmuxer. I can not play any of the stream files on my machine (mpc says can not render file). If I send ONE of the ts files back through tsmuxer and output as avchd then I have a playable file. But, if I try to send them all through and join them I get an unplayable file! I'm trying to compare the two identical streams and understand why one is playable and one is not, but they appear the same. Any suggestions?

[bc55]

Unless you're transcoding the video - it won't make any difference. You can try to [TRIM END] in [PROPERTIES] and cut few mins from the video.


Hi Dean,

thanks for replying so quickly to my questions.

OK, you might go "duh" now, but I believe I might have misconceived how MultiAVCHD works.

I merely assumed it would automatically downsize any content to fit a standard BD-R media, thus re-encoding it.

In fact, to my shame, I now believe it might have been just me selecting too much content to fit on the BD-R. :stupid:

Am I right.

So, if I select onlt 4GiB of material, the resulting AVCHD will only be 4 GiB ?!??!

Cheers

BC55

[deank]

If the source is m2ts file - yes - the output will be the same in size as the input. With other files/containers there will be some overhead and you'll end up with bigger output.

[bc55]

If the source is m2ts file - yes - the output will be the same in size as the input. With other files/containers there will be some overhead and you'll end up with bigger output.

The source files were MKVs. 11 of them, 2GiB each.

I'll try today if leaving one off will significantly reduce the resulting AVCHD size.

Cheers

BC55

[deank]

With MKV files you'll generally get about 6-10% bigger output, but multiAVCHD shows that in [Estimated output] message at the lower part of the application window. Not always accurate but give you the idea.

[bc55]

With MKV files you'll generally get about 6-10% bigger output, but multiAVCHD shows that in [Estimated output] message at the lower part of the application window. Not always accurate but give you the idea.

OK.

I'll get back to you when I have some more results.

Thanks

BC55

[pio011]

Okay, let's get back to finding the problem with those nasty little "motion chapters" :devil:

Here's my current state of things: Everything is fine: mAvchd prepares the menu and extracts the short m2ts clips for the motion chapters (they work and are stored in the Temp-Folders). This takes some time. But then it crashes with with no real error message but asks for "debugging/Playing" the .avs script. I have tested the script with other videoplayers (e.g. Zoomplayer): The script does not really play, maybe only 1-sec: You see the chapter menu, but no "motion". I suspect that it would take forever to play just from the script, because the motion chapters/motion chapter menue has not been encoded yet and I suppose it's very complicated - so, that the script is not playing properly can't be the problem, is it? I mean, the script says: Ok, this is the menu background and here are the sources (clips) for the motion thumnails, now, encode them as one. I don't think that just playing the script gives you the idea of what is wrong. And funny is, that after one second of playing the script, the picture "freezes" - or - if you tell mAvchd "yes" to play it with m-player - the whole thing crashes.

Here's an extract of the mAVCHD log:

[20:11:11] Preparing menu pages...

[20:11:11] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/3] [Static title thumbnail].
[20:11:12] Extracting motion chapters for page #1...
[20:18:22] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/3]: Chapter page [1/1].
[20:18:38] Error encoding chapter menu page #1 for title #1!
[09:41:36] Failure to mux menu and to create playlist [00601.mpls]

Of course, mAVCHD crashed and is not able to mux menu, because the video/backkground for the chaptermenu has not been created! There must be something with the script or with the things it needs/does or with my settings.

So Dean, please help! Am I totally wrong with my conclusions? Or what is actually my problem:)
OR I have CoreAVC as a decoder installed - maybe is this the problem?

[BZeeme]

pio011, I've tried many tests to get "motion chapters" working. On my Vista 32 bit system, if the number of chapters is 9 or less, it's processes properly. With 10 or more, error! With 9 or less working, it seems unlikely that it is a bug in multiAVCHD. Try fewer chapters on your system as a test.

Dean, I hope I'm not being pushy - just jogging your memory
from multiForum:

One bug I noticed when they do work: Thumbnail A shows video of chapter A when thumbnail A is linked to chapter B - but the link works. i.e. If thumbnail 3 is linked to chapter 7, thumbnail 3 shows video of chapter 3. If I click thumbnail 3, chapter 7 is played.

Yes, the links are honored but video is not extracted from the proper link... I'll see about that.

[deank]

:) ok.

[mic]

Hi

I have a problem with chapter marks when converting HD-DVD to AVCHD. Chapter positions are not correct. I have reported the problem in the eac3to thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1405537#post1405537
As I explained, chapter jumps lead to positions before the real position, and the difference is bigger on the last chapters.

Could it be something wrong in multiAVCHD ?

See there's a new version of eac3to out -- "* fixed: HD DVD chapter times were wrong by 3.6 seconds per hour"

[mic]

Okay. So I've got at least 5 avchd movies that are vc1 based that are causing me trouble and if like suggestions how to bring them into compliance so mavchd can deal with them. History is simple, they came from blu ray and have only been processed in tsmuxer. I can not play any of the stream files on my machine (mpc says can not render file). If I send ONE of the ts files back through tsmuxer and output as avchd then I have a playable file. But, if I try to send them all through and join them I get an unplayable file! I'm trying to compare the two identical streams and understand why one is playable and one is not, but they appear the same. Any suggestions?

I am very new to avchd & bd, so not sure if this will be helpful or not...

Mpeg2, vc1, & AVC afaik can have file headers written differently or containing different amounts of info, plus while it doesn't sound like your prob., the file name extension matters sometimes. At any rate, in my limited experience with VC1 I've passed them thru multiAVCHD untouched without problems, even though I couldn't play the file by itself, & got a disc that played everywhere just fine. I've also used a [less known?] app called VC12avi -- it produces segmented avi files that contain the vc1 & are playable, but you have to put the avi's together with v/dubmod or similar or else deal with several files. Or you can get mkv out of BluRip or HdBrStreamExtractor, which should be playable -- just different apps favor either avi or mkv. There's also a method of using a saved graphedit graph in an AviSynth script, that surprisingly [for me at least] works OK [found that tidbit somewhere in the doom9 or videohelp forums, but can't remember where :-( ]

Otherwise, ffdshow is required for me to handle vc1 in most cases, though it's handling of vc1 can have conflicts with Vegas 9 on this rig. Downloading/Registering the Microsoft file: vc1esparser.dll was also necessary for some software.

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Mpeg2, vc1, & AVC afaik can have file headers written differently or containing different amounts of info AVCHD streams do not have "file headers" at all. That is what makes them streams.

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AVCHD streams do not have "file headers" at all. That is what makes them streams.

Sorry -- I've likely got the terminology wrong trying to very quickly & simply, in plain English say these types of video files can hold different data, yet hold the same video content. Perhaps you can to explain it better? :thanks:

The best I can do is still too detailed IMHO -- after all I only wanted to hint at why insaneoctane got those results -- & should rightly be ignored by everyone else as it serves no useful purpose...

In my experience you can have an AVC [or mpg2, vc1 etc] file, pass it thru an app where it is not re-encoded, & the result will then play or import or otherwise become usable in software where the original was not, e.g. If I remember correctly deank mentioned in a post that multiAVCHD forced a mod of non-re-encoded AVC files for better compliance.

When that sort of thing happens the data that's in the file *besides* the video content itself is I'd assume changed -- the video content doesn't change, so there has to be something else there, right? :p I mean look at what mediainfo reports on X264 encoded files -- there's info at the end of the report that as I understand it from the docs is both variable & optional yet is in the file somewhere. :)

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pio011, I've tried many tests to get "motion chapters" working. On my Vista 32 bit system, if the number of chapters is 9 or less, it's processes properly. With 10 or more, error! With 9 or less working, it seems unlikely that it is a bug in multiAVCHD. Try fewer chapters on your system as a test.

Same with me here, no motion chapters at all yet! With > 10 chapters, doesn't works! I'm with Win7 64.

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Are you sure you have the same avisynth version posted in the 1st post of this thread?

When I run Version.avs from avisynth folder (start/programs/avisynth) I get:

AviSynth 2.58, build: Dec 22 2008 [08:46:51]
(c) 2000-2007 Ben Rudiak-Gould, et al.
http:/www.avisynth.org

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deank;
slightly off subject, but was wondering if a custom Avisynth script can be used with multiAVCHD or uncropMKV to reencode a HD .ts files to compatible AVCHD?
Occasionally, I will record an OTA TV show with my HD DVR, then using CAPDVHS and firewire, record the file thru my CPU to a .ts file on my hard drive.
Typical file properties are: 1080i, 29.97fps, 10-13GB size.
I have been using MeGui with DGIndex, and using this typical Avisynth script to reencode to BD5 a pretty nice looking 1080P movie:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Movie\Movie.d2v", info=3)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\ColorMatrix.dll")
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=true, threads=0)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\TIVTC.dll")
tfm(order=1).tdecimate()

This does work fine for me, but does your program allow the option to do the same?

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Of course. Load the avisynth script in multiAVCHD. If it has audio it will be used. If not - load the .ts file as [audio]/[add] in [properties] to use the original audio (better).

:)

// edit: uncropMKV does not support avisynth input - only multiAVCHD.

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Of course. Load the avisynth script in multiAVCHD. If it has audio it will be used. If not - load the .ts file as [audio]/[add] in [properties] to use the original audio (better).

:)

// edit: uncropMKV does not support avisynth input - only multiAVCHD.

Great! I will try it out soon. :)
No templates or profiles are necessary with multiAVCHD?
Just my custom Avisynth script?
Will it just produce a compliant BD/AVCHD file for me? :cool: