multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[Dolsen]

hi guys!

someone can help me pls!!

i really need help to make 3D avchd but, i don't know how to...
because i have ID 2 video content left and right for 2 files...

can comeone guide me?

thanks so much.

Hi,

I had 2 files, LEFT version and RIGHT version which I used in combination with the
Suggestion from Deank (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1429851#post1429851) (click link) and it sure did work for my video clip.

So, as long your files are one LEFT version and one RIGHT version you should manage to get it working.

Bye,
Dolsen

[xterminater]

the 513 mpls is linked to the next four trailers and also gave me that affected playlist #15 but I do not know what playlist #15 is pointed to... Before I encounter the same issue with vobblanker for dvd but this time in vobblanker I can go inside and just blank out the cells instead of the whole thing. Multiavchd does not seem to have this feature like vobblanker ... I wonder if deank knows what I'm talking about and implement it so that way we can go and delete the cells only.

[xterminater]

Here are more details into the 513 playlist reference... hopefuly this helps ... I just want to blank all those unecessary trailers out to save about 2gb or so

[Capsbackup]

Here are more details into the 513 playlist reference... hopefuly this helps ... I just want to blank all those unecessary trailers out to save about 2gb or so

At some point, you will have to accept the fact that the issue you are having is not a multiAVCHD nor a BD-RB problem. Your player may say it plays AVCHD, Java, etc... but so do many players.
You have found movie only backups to BD5 media works, but full backups to DVD media behave differently when played back on standalone Blu-ray players. This is not new and many people report the same issues.
I have used multiAVCHD to blank warnings, adverts, etc.. for many BD5/9 and BD-25 full backups, and have received that warning you mention. As crl2007 has said, this will not affect the backups playback. I can confirm that too.

What you could try, and I have done several this way, is to use multiAVCHD in conjunction with BD-RB's completed reencoded backup, to create a new AVCHD, using the original menu from BD-RB's backup. You add the video files you want to multiAVCHD's "add video", go to the menu tab and add the .m2ts menu video file for your backup, adjust the button positions accordingly and let multiAVCHD create this new AVCHD.
It does take some time and practice getting used to button adjusting and alignment, but I have found the output compatibility to be excellent!
It may not be exactly like the original menu, but close enough for me! :)

[xterminater]

that sounds too complicated as I don't have a clue about bluray structure and filename at all!

[pio011]

Deank, how do I keep mulitAVCHD from doing the "Slowdown"? I have one title that doesn't match the system: One title is PAL the rest is NTSC, therefore I have selected ntsc. I want to try, if it works. But the slow down doesnt make any sense, beacause the video remains pal.

So, how do I keep mAVCHD from doing the slowdown?

Thansk!

[Dimma]

Hi,

I had 2 files, LEFT version and RIGHT version which I used in combination with the
Suggestion from Deank (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1429851#post1429851) (click link) and it sure did work for my video clip.

So, as long your files are one LEFT version and one RIGHT version you should manage to get it working.

Bye,
Dolsen

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[MrVideo]

Deank, how do I keep mulitAVCHD from doing the "Slowdown"? I have one title that doesn't match the system: One title is PAL the rest is NTSC, therefore I have selected ntsc. I want to try, if it works. But the slow down doesnt make any sense, beacause the video remains pal.

Another reason to not have the NTSC/PAL selection. But, that said...

While standalone Blu-ray players will play 720p/1080i/p 23.976/25/29.97 frame/sec video, I suspect many will not play both 480i/576i video.

My Sony Blu-ray player will happily play 1080i/25 video, but it will not play 576i SD discs. It isn't a region coding issue either, as the disc is all region.

I've not tried putting 576i material onto a Bu-ray disc with mAVCHD to see if the player will accept it on Blu-ray format.

If it works, mAVCHD should stop with the NTSC/PAL thing. If the player still won't play 576i material, then the flag will force the issue for SD material. There definately should be no enforcement for HD material.

[al4x]

al4x, make a backup of your system and a new install, then just install avisynth, Matroska, ffdshow and multiAVCHD. This will proof, that your problems have nothing to do with it.

it matters not, if its my system its my system, if its not i seem to be unique with the problem, either way i have to switch transcoder

[SeeMoreDigital]

Quick note: next build 765 will include something else, too. A prompt will appear when user loads MKV files muxed with newer mkvmerge or mkv2rls (x264). As a matter of interest. Can anybody confirm which encoding applications generate "mkv2rls" muxes?

[Music Fan]

@ MrVideo : I don't know the limitations of american players, but my european player can play 576i, 480i, 1080i50, 720p ... on the same disc without slow down or speed up. Each video stays in its native format and the player can play all videos in their native frequencies, but I don't remember what we have to chose between Pal, Ntsc or Pal 24 for the menu, sorry.:o

[insaneoctane]

I'm trying to create an MKV for the first time. As an input I'm using a previous multiAVCHD movie. It immediately errors with this:
(RT) Invalid array index (2). Valid range (1-1) - Line 104.

I tried unintalling and reinstalling to make sure that the new MKV options didn't need any additional stuff in TOOLS, but same error...any suggestions?

[MrVideo]

I don't know the limitations of american players, but my european player can play 576i, 480i, 1080i50, 720p ... on the same disc without slow down or speed up. Each video stays in its native format and the player can play all videos in their native frequencies, but I don't remember what we have to chose between Pal, Ntsc or Pal 24 for the menu, sorry.:o

Let's just say that Hollygreed has kept the U.S. DVD players limited to region 1 and 480. You can buy "chipped" players. The JVC that I bought did PAL to NTSC, but the DVD had better be region 1 or all region. The chipping eliminated the region problem. Unfortunately, the Blu-ray player has the same idiotic playback limitations. If it isn't 480, it won't play it.

I should have looked at your location. I know that in Europe, multiformat players are a dime-a-dozen.

I'm sure that Dean knows that as well, so why you are being forced to chose NTSC or PAL is, IMHO, wrong. To me it seems like you uncovered a bug.

[Music Fan]

I'm not sure to understand very well the sense of your last sentence, but all I can say is that MultiAVCHD allows to put all formats on the same compilation without reencoding and that my Panasonic BD35 could play it outputting the 50hz sources in 50hz and the 60hz in 60hz. I didn't test it with my new Sony player yet.
Anyway, even if it works on european players, I can not guarantee that it will work on US players.

[JoeH]

Hi Dean, just did a BD-->SD-DVD conversion with build 770. It worked well but just thought I'd mention some things that could be improved. Nothing urgent, just thought I'd put it all together here:

1. I selected to output only 1 of the 2 audio tracks, but both audio tracks in the M2TS file were output in the final DVD.
2. Audio and Subtitle languages are not kept. They are all seen as "Undetermined" in the new DVD
3. The program puts the DVD output 3 or 4 subfolders deep under the folder selected by the user. It would be nicer if it just put in the folder selected by the user.
4. This is the first time I've seen this, but towards the end of the process, either shortly before or during MuxMan, it gobbled up all 6GB of memory on my computer here. Not sure what it was doing, but the computer really slowed down. It then properly released the memory when it finished.

Thanks for a great program, Dean. Again, nothing urgent here just some possible suggestions for future improvements if you think they would be worthwhile. I've mentioned two of these before of course, but just thought I'd include them here as a summary.
:thanks:

[sidneysides]

Is the MultiAVCHD website down? I can't download any of the tools or the program - anyone got any mirror links?

[Emulgator]

videohelp.com -> multiAVCHD -> direct link

[al4x]

im am at such a loss at what is happening with this program.

i managed to do a sucess full transcode.. ie the computer did not crash despite the ram overflow during copying, but my output file is bigger than my input file, the program says that the trancoded bit rate was set at 24500 from 33118 but after checking the new output it is infact 34371??

there really is something wrong with this on my pc, another 9 hours lost.. keeping the menus really isnt worth this hassle :/ why me lol

[MrVideo]

I'm not sure to understand very well the sense of your last sentence.

What I was trying to say, because your player doesn't care what it is fed for video formats, even on the same disc, for mAVCHD to force you to have to select NTSC or PAL, is incorrect. IMHO, it should be done away with.

[Music Fan]

I guess it's Dean's choice. I believe that we have to chose Pal or Pal24, but not NTSC for the menu to avoid a reencoding when we put 50hz and 60hz videos on the same compilation.
And of course let unchecked the PAL speed up in the settings.
To see what happens with the menu and the videos, you could maybe try the 3 kinds of menu, and make a test with only 2 videos, 1 in 50hz and 1 in 60hz, it will be fast.

[deank]

That is correct. PAL and PAL 24p are both the same, but the second produces 24Hz menu and the 1st 50Hz. But in both cases you can have mixed content and it will not be sped up or slowed down, but used as is (unless explicitly set with the option Music Fan mentioned).

I'll see if I can change the option to something else like 'regions' or 'countries' or 50/60Hz.

[Music Fan]

I guess that you can choice to avoid a forced reeconding of the PAL videos even if NTSC is selected as menu to allow people to have a menu in 60hz even when some videos of their compilation are in 50 hz (and that they want to let it in 50hz).

[wooper]

Hi, i am making a blu ray with 3 diferent movies, all the movies has 2 audios, english and spanish, so when i make the project, I start it, and first i see this

[16:16:42] Encoding [AC3] audio to AC3...
[16:16:48] Retrying...

and after that this


[16:22:42] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (eng)...
[16:22:42] Encoding [AC3] audio to AC3...
[16:28:40] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (eng)...
[16:28:40] Encoding [AC3] audio to AC3...
[16:35:02] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (spa)...

it does this for the 3 movies, so when it finish, i tested on the pc and when i select spanish, doesnt change and it still playing english, so is there a problem with te codec or something?? cant play spanish audio

thanks

[unix_sansei]

from tsmuxer i have my file directory and am able to burn with no problems with imgburn.

all i want to do is add a basic root menu image with a play button and have some music going in a loop.

multiAVCHD doesn't like my video file and bombs when i try to do anything with it. the m2ts file is 8.4Gb and pushes the blu-ray specs at a total of 56MBs for audio and video.

i looked at this tutorial
http://www.recipester.org/Recipe:Create_Blu-ray_Menu_31358242

but i do NOT want to transcode or reencode my files, just add this content to the file structure. no subtitles, nothing fancy.

is this a tool that will do the job?

anyone have a basic file structure in place, where i can just replace the images and sound?

[Ghitulescu]

You can't simply put any file without reencoding on a bluray/avchd disk. That file must fulfil some conditions, if multiavchd rejects it then it has a reason. Whether a certain player might play something out-of-specs or not is one thing, but if one wants to be future-proof, he should stick with the standards.

Have you checked the original guide to multiavchd? -> http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php

[Wolfe999]

Couldn't find the way of how to do it, so sorry if the answer is somewhere along the thread.

I'm using version 4.1 767 and my "problem" is that sometimes the subtitles appear way too low on the TV screen and is very uncomfortable to read them. Is there a way to up them so they can be read properly? Maybe "playing with offset in the subtitles tab, that by default comes with 45? Don't know.

Regards and TIA :)

EDIT: Mistake in # of version

A while later:

Yeah, removed the pgs and imported the same ones already demuxed. Then I upped the offset to 80 and in the preview I can see that the subs are higher in the screen and good to read, but once I start the conversion to burn to BD-R and when it finishes I play the resulting BluRay with PowerDVD, I see that the subtitles remain in the same place, way too down. What am I doing wrong? Should I change some other setting?

Thanx again :)

[deank]

The setting for OFFSET is when you use text based subtitles (like SRT). If you want to move original bdsup (SUP) subtitles, you'll have to load the SUP file in BDsup2sub and move all the captions (it is just 2 clicks job).

[deank]

Hi, i am making a blu ray with 3 diferent movies, all the movies has 2 audios, english and spanish, so when i make the project, I start it, and first i see this

[16:16:42] Encoding [AC3] audio to AC3...
[16:16:48] Retrying...

and after that this


[16:22:42] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (eng)...
[16:22:42] Encoding [AC3] audio to AC3...
[16:28:40] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (eng)...
[16:28:40] Encoding [AC3] audio to AC3...
[16:35:02] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (spa)...

it does this for the 3 movies, so when it finish, i tested on the pc and when i select spanish, doesnt change and it still playing english, so is there a problem with te codec or something?? cant play spanish audio

thanks

Try to set 640 for "Non-HD AC3 audio bitrate" in Subtitles&Audio tab.

[deank]

from tsmuxer i have my file directory and am able to burn with no problems with imgburn.

all i want to do is add a basic root menu image with a play button and have some music going in a loop.

multiAVCHD doesn't like my video file and bombs when i try to do anything with it. the m2ts file is 8.4Gb and pushes the blu-ray specs at a total of 56MBs for audio and video.

i looked at this tutorial
http://www.recipester.org/Recipe:Create_Blu-ray_Menu_31358242

but i do NOT want to transcode or reencode my files, just add this content to the file structure. no subtitles, nothing fancy.

is this a tool that will do the job?

anyone have a basic file structure in place, where i can just replace the images and sound?

If you already have the structure from tsMuxeR - you can load it directly in multiAVCHD and create a menu for it. multiAVCHD will not touch your video nor will re-encode it.

[Wolfe999]

The setting for OFFSET is when you use text based subtitles (like SRT). If you want to move original bdsup (SUP) subtitles, you'll have to load the SUP file in BDsup2sub and move all the captions (it is just 2 clicks job).

Thanx for the answer, Deank, very helpful indeed :-D

[insaneoctane]

I'm trying to create an MKV for the first time. As an input I'm using a previous multiAVCHD movie. It immediately errors with this:
(RT) Invalid array index (2). Valid range (1-1) - Line 104.

I tried unintalling and reinstalling to make sure that the new MKV options didn't need any additional stuff in TOOLS, but same error...any suggestions?

Bump.

[JK1974]

Hi, I finally took a closer look at multiAVCHD because I just found out that it can create anaglyph or side-by-side videos from 3D blu-rays. My preferred format would be MKV(AVC), but maybe because I am new to multiAVCHD or because of bugs I don´t know how to do this. Maybe someone can give me some clarification because I don´t know where I go wrong:
1) After starting multiAVCHD, I click on "Add video files" and select the appropriate *.mpls file. The logfile mentions: "Detected 3D stream".
2) I set the Destination path, go to settings and select the desired 3D encoding format (e.g. Stereo (left/right)).
3) I click on "Start" and select "MKV (AVC)". Now I get the error message "No titles set for FILE (MKV/AVC) processing! Process all (1) as FILE (MKV/AVC)?". This is the first thing I don´t understand correctly. Secondly, if I press "Yes" I also get the mentioned message: "(RT) Invalid array index (2). Valid range (1-1) - Line 104." If I click on "No", it creates a BD/AVCHD structure.
Playing around with the transcode and properties buttons and settings, I believed that I got it working, but I never got an MKV file.

Any hints?

With kind regards

[EDIT]I just created an anaglyph movie as BD-/AVCHD disc. Unfortunately, there were two bugs: Some frames seem to have been decoded incorrectly, resulting in some kind of "flash" when those images are being display. But much worse: The two streams did not stay in sync - I can upload an image later where you can see clearly that it does not fit. Is it possible to replace ffms2 against DGDecNV somewhere in the settings? The AVC decoding still seems to be more stable and it is said to be frame accurate.

[unix_sansei]

You can't simply put any file without reencoding on a bluray/avchd disk. That file must fulfil some conditions, if multiavchd rejects it then it has a reason. Whether a certain player might play something out-of-specs or not is one thing, but if one wants to be future-proof, he should stick with the standards.

Have you checked the original guide to multiavchd? -> http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php

my encoding 40MBs video and 96/16-bit 6ch wav works fine on LG blu-ray burner and I took my blu-ray to Best Buy and watched it on two separate commercial blu-ray players, JVC and Panasonic with no problems whatsoever with audio or video. In fact, it looked and sounded spectacular.

I think there is a bug or something with multiAVCDH, IMHO.

My film is encoded with Mainconcept's mpeg2 and there is no way I'm going to re-encode with another codec. Mainconcept is the only one I've found that always seems to work on any consumer blu-ray player with no artifacts. I have no affiliation with Mainconcept.

[unix_sansei]

If you already have the structure from tsMuxeR - you can load it directly in multiAVCHD and create a menu for it. multiAVCHD will not touch your video nor will re-encode it.

Thank DeanK..

When I load my file structure, there are errors that arise from multiAVCHD. When I click on properties, it crashes. I'm not bashing multiAVCHD, I think it's a very good tool but I think there is a bug.

Is there already a template that exists for a single background image and loop an mp3 with a simple play button?

[setarip_old]

@unix_sansei

Hi! ...loop an mp3 with a simple play button As far as I know, .MP3 is not compliant with either Blu-ray or standard DVD.

Perhaps this is the source of your difficulty?

[unix_sansei]

@unix_sansei

Hi! As far as I know, .MP3 is not compliant with either Blu-ray or standard DVD.

Perhaps this is the source of your difficulty?

I said mp3 figuratively, I can create any audio format.

But I'm not even getting that far as multiAVCHD crashes on looking at the properties of the m2ts file in the blu-ray folder.

[setarip_old]

@unix-sensei multiAVCHD crashes on looking at the properties of the m2ts file in the blu-ray folder.

For further conversation, it might be beneficial to load your .M2TS file into tsMuxer (Open it to full window) and post a screencapture back here...

[unix_sansei]

@unix-sensei

For further conversation, it might be beneficial to load your .M2TS file into tsMuxer (Open it to full window) and post a screencapture back here...

Here is the error when multiAVCHD crashes, I traced it as far as I could in Visual Studio but couldn't make any sense of it. Maybe 32-bit overflow??

(RT) Stack overflow (PUSH) - line 89.

I'll post tsmuxer next

[unix_sansei]

@unix-sensei

For further conversation, it might be beneficial to load your .M2TS file into tsMuxer (Open it to full window) and post a screencapture back here...

here is tsmuser screen capture

[Music Fan]

It's not the answer to your question but I believe you should encode in 23.976 fps and not in 24 fps because 24fps is problematic with some players (and screens).

[setarip_old]

@unix-sansei multiAVCHD crashes on looking at the properties of the m2ts file in the blu-ray folder.You've got me confused. re you working with a Bluray "package", including .M2TS files or, as you tsMuxer screencapture indicates, are you working with separate video and audiostreams (which, if I recall correctly, multiAVCHD doesn't process very well)?

[MrVideo]

It's not the answer to your question but I believe you should encode in 23.976 fps and not in 24 fps because 24fps is problematic with some players (and screens).

Then said player, and/or monitor, is out-of-spec. True 24 fps is part of the Blu-ray spec and every HD monitor is supposed to handle it.

If the source material is from Region A, then it will not be 24 fps, as we are screwed because of the 29.97 frame rate (having to be able to use 480i SD material bumped up to 720p or 1080i). That means any 24 fps material is really 23.976 fps. Even true 24 fps films/movies are transferred to video at 23.976 fps so that the master can also be used for broadcast (HBO, etc).

[MrVideo]

@unix-sansei You've got me confused. re you working with a Bluray "package", including .M2TS files or, as you tsMuxer screencapture indicates, are you working with separate video and audiostreams (which, if I recall correctly, multiAVCHD doesn't process very well)?

Really? I've fed mAVCHD a separate H.264 elementary stream (x264 encoded) and its AC3 audio stream and mAVCHD worked with them just fine.

[unix_sansei]

@unix-sensei

For further conversation, it might be beneficial to load your .M2TS file into tsMuxer (Open it to full window) and post a screencapture back here...


here is tsmuxer screen dump of m2ts file, video 40MBs, audio 96kHz/16bit, 6ch wav

[herrde]

Hi everybody,

just a quick one. Whenever I try to process a MKV that originally came from iTunes (marked with "WEB-DL" in the file name), I experience difficulties.

multiAVCHD tells me it has to remux the file using mkvmerge which I confirm. Then it processes the file just as usual, no problems. But playback on the PS3 from my USB hard drive is completely jerky afterwards, it stutters like hell, completely unwatchable.

If I remux it with the latest version of MKVmerge BEFORE I feed it into multiAVCHD, then multiAVCHD's tsmuxer crashes while processing the file.

Is this behaviour maybe related to any DRM protection of those "WEB-DL" files from iTunes?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Best,

Gero

[crl2007]

Set the compression to none in mkvmerge from Extra Options tab. Or use an older version of mkvmerge, like version 3.x.

[herrde]

Hi crl2007,

didn't really help. I set the compression to none on the Extra tab of mkvmerge. That indeed prevented multiAVCHD's tsmuxer from crashing, ok. But playback from my USB hard drive on the PS3 is still completely jerky with all the stuttering.

If I watch the output on my PC, it runs smooth as always.

I only experience this kind of problem with those "WEB DL" MKV's from iTunes. There must be something to them. As I said - maybe these problems are somehow DRM related?

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Gero

[Music Fan]

Analyse it with Mediainfo and you will see the bitrate and the encoding level (maybe to high for PS3) ;
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mediainfo/
The number of reference frames can also be problematic.
Example with this capture ;
http://www.rarst.net/images/LookinginsidemediafileswithMediaInfo_132F6/mediainfo_interface.png

[herrde]

But multiAVCHD doesn't show any warnings when loading the file!

And it can't be a bitrate problem - the file is 1.37 Gig and it runs about 40 mins, pretty much standard...

Here's the MediaInfo output:

Format : Matroska
File size : 1.37 GiB
Duration : 42mn 41s
Overall bit rate : 4 584 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-07-23 15:20:10
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.1.1 ('Bouncin' Back') built on Jul 3 2010 22:54:08
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=2, N=32
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@3.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 42mn 41s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Language : English
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 42mn 41s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 42mn 41s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 117 MiB (8%)
Language : English



Please help!

Thanks,

Gero

[setarip_old]

@herrde

Hi! But playback from my USB hard drive on the PS3 is still completely jerky with all the stuttering.

If I watch the output on my PC, it runs smooth as always. Sounds very much like copy protection intended to limit viewing on only one system...