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mastom
26th January 2011, 18:58
Hi,

I have spent a lot of time trying to make a bd menu in multiAVCHD 4.1. All the time bd seems to be ok, it is ok for software player but in Denon DBP-2010 it writes MENU on display and that's all. It's frozen. I have tried a lot of settings but all the time with the same result. If there is no menu it plays ok.

But when I try the version 3.0 menu works fine.

Do you have any ideas how to solve this problem?

:thanks:

Btw, the program is the best I have tried.

Thomas

DMagic1
29th January 2011, 06:46
Is there anyway to have it not transcode the intro/welcome video if its already compliant?

SuperFist
5th February 2011, 01:10
I have a question for all of you Blu-ray burning/authoring afficionados. Does anyone know of a guide or know how to compile a Blu-ray from a series of several shows unto a single-layer BD-R with just the episodes and HD audio without compression?

For example, the Firefly series with 4 shows on one disc: I want to create it to where I put 2 shows on a 25GB disc without compressing them with just the audio and the show itself, no extras. I looked at the guides for MultiAVCHD but no one seems to be trying to do exactly that. They seem to need to retranscode the audio or video which I don't need to do. In other words, I can't find a clear cut way to do this or a guide that shows me specifically how. The reason I need to do this is a show like this looks HORRIBLE when it's shrunk to fit on a single layer BD-R due to it being 53% compression.

Also, how do I use Cut Start and Cut End to reauthor start and end times of the BD?

setarip_old
5th February 2011, 02:57
@SuperFist

Hi! The reason I need to do this is a show like this looks HORRIBLE when it's shrunk to fit on a single layer BD-R due to it being 53% compression.

Based on your statement, it's apparent that you've not yet used BD-Rebuilder ;>}

SuperFist
5th February 2011, 09:29
@SuperFist

Hi!

Based on your statement, it's apparent that you've not yet used BD-Rebuilder ;>}

So you're claiming BD-Rebuilder does a better job at compressing blu-ray movies than MultiAVCHD and DVDFab?

ricoman
5th February 2011, 14:52
So you're claiming BD-Rebuilder does a better job at compressing blu-ray movies than MultiAVCHD and DVDFab?

I've used all three (and sadly paid for DVDFabHD bluray copy) and to me, BDRebuilder is way better than DVDFab. DVDFab over-compressed it and the PQ was soft, not sharp like you expect from bluray. MultiAVCHD is super for BD to DVD, the PQ on the DVD seems better than a regular DVD and plays on regular players. I never tried it for straight bluray to bluray conversion. Anyway, my point is that I highly recommend BDRebuilder and MultiAVCHD, but don't waste your time and especially money on DVDFAB.

Music Fan
5th February 2011, 15:04
BD-Rebuilder and MultiAVCHD use the same encoder, x264, so the result should be the same (if same settings used).

Capsbackup
5th February 2011, 16:04
@SuperFist;
You can use multiAVCHD, without reencoding the video and audio, to put two episodes from the same disc on to one BD-R, if their original size fits on the BD-R. You can even keep the original menu too. If you do not want the original menu, you can create your own menu for the two episodes only.
If you want two episodes from two different original discs, you will have to make your own custom menu. ( unless you dont care if one episode doesn't match the original menu. ):cool:

worknstiff
5th February 2011, 17:53
I use Clown_BD to convert each episode of The Universe to a BD folder. I then use MultiAVCHD to load up each episode and create a simple menu to select each title. I use a 50,000 MB output limit to get it to not split or recode the video and turn off eac3to to keep the audio original. When finished it gives me a simple static menu (that will play in any bluray player or software player) and a blurary folder thats around 40 Gigs. I then load this output into BD_Rebuider and compress (default quality 2 pass) to fit a BD9 (DVD+R DL) and end up with a high quality video that is indistinquishable from the original (even on my 65" panasonic). It is time consuming but works really well, MultiAVCHD & BD_Rebuilder are both a work of art, it is amazing the output you can get. Right now there is not even a paid solution that can touch either of these programs for quality. When I think of all the programming effort and troubleshooting that went into each of them it makes my head spin. Also it must be said that the final product is all due to the highly efficient x264 codec. My thanks to deank & jdobbs for all the hard work that I spend so much of my time using. While I am at it, where is Dean? Has he gone on vacation or is he just working on something new?

setarip_old
5th February 2011, 19:21
@SuperFist So you're claiming BD-Rebuilder does a better job at compressing blu-ray movies than MultiAVCHD and DVDFab?Yes...

jediknight
5th February 2011, 20:12
i found a bug i think or something like that. I installed fresh windows and after that installed these are ; ffdshow + ac3filter + cyberlink powerdvd10 + arcsoft totalmedia 5 + bsplayer. then i installed MultiAVCHD,

but here is the error when im trying to open program ;

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1508/errorieh.jpg

Dean my friend can you help me :(. ?

thanks bro,

worknstiff
5th February 2011, 20:52
Don't kinow about the message, can't read whatever lang. When I installed multiAVCHD 4.1 from the first page, the first thing it checks is for updates. It updated the multiAVCHD.dat to the latest 760 and I installed it to the program folder. It restarted and then I didn't have the menu options, it was greyed out. I finally uninstalled and deleted the multiAVCHD folder and did a complete reinstall and now it works fine. You can goto the first page and click on the "Download links for all tools" and then download the multiTEST.exe and see if it finds all the stuff set up correctly. If you are running windows7 there is also a codec Tweaker. hope this helps

MajiNPic
9th February 2011, 16:59
Hi

First, I'm still a newbie and my English is bad ^^

And here's my problem...
When I used multiAVCHD to add subtitles to Bluray Disc, everything seemed to work fine.
But using Media Info, I found that the m2ts file had different "maximum overall bit rate" from the original one.
Will this be a problem playing on standalone BD player? And how could I fix this?

Thanks in advance.

Here are the scripts from Media Info...

Original m2ts
General
ID : 0
Complete name : F:\BDMV1\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 40.0 GiB
Duration : 2h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 35.4 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 29.4 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.591
Stream size : 33.2 GiB (83%)

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 4 608 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 5.21 GiB (13%)

Subbed m2ts
General
ID : 1
Complete name : F:\BDMV2\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 40.1 GiB
Duration : 2h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 29.4 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.592
Stream size : 33.3 GiB (83%)
Language : English

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 4 608 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 5.21 GiB (13%)
Language : Japanese

Text
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 7s 674ms
Language : English

Music Fan
9th February 2011, 17:11
It looks like a wrong header information, i got this several times on mpeg-2 files.
I'm nearly sure that it won't be a problem for your player : if he can play the original file, he will also play the subbed m2ts detecting the real bitrate.

thghgv
13th February 2011, 22:56
Here's what Im looking for...

An app to be able to load, off HDD, the full backup of a BD and then present that BD structure in a GRAPHICAL fashion (not lists of numbers, radio buttons, and check boxes) for editing. Editing, meaning being able to GRAPHICALLY replace modify or delete elements of the EXISTING menu structure NOT requiring having to build a totally new menu system from template or scratch.
Once editing is completed, be able to render just those changes, WITHOUT re-encoding all the program audio and video assets, back to HDD.

Like DVDremake does for DVD. can this app do this ??

Adub
16th February 2011, 08:33
Here's what Im looking for...

An app to be able to load, off HDD, the full backup of a BD and then present that BD structure in a GRAPHICAL fashion (not lists of numbers, radio buttons, and check boxes) for editing. Editing, meaning being able to GRAPHICALLY replace modify or delete elements of the EXISTING menu structure NOT requiring having to build a totally new menu system from template or scratch.
Once editing is completed, be able to render just those changes, WITHOUT re-encoding all the program audio and video assets, back to HDD.

Like DVDremake does for DVD. can this app do this ??

No. And I don't think anything currently exists that is close to that, unless it costs several thousand dollars. And why don't you try using the interface before posting a question like this next time.

Anyways, ran into some issues with TSMuxer crashing when running a test for one of my readers. Specifically, TSMuxer hung while I was away from home and then displayed a "Close this hung program" window.

I just managed to catch a glimpse of the commandline window, and it said something about the NAL unit being to large in the MKV, and that it was truncating.

Here is the log:
http://pastebin.com/0CLJKRD5

Around line 243 is where I clicked OK on the "Close program" window.

thghgv
16th February 2011, 21:07
No. And I don't think anything currently exists that is close to that, unless it costs several thousand dollars. And why don't you try using the interface before posting a question like this next time.

Well, that's just it. I have attempted to use it but it makes little sense at this point. Remake is intuitive enough to be used successfully without any outside help (hence my question). I'll take your word that it works. Is there a proper step-by-step doc out there some where that outlines a typical load/find/replace/re-render process with this app?? So far I have just come up with snippets here and there that only hint at this or that but nothing concrete.

setarip_old
16th February 2011, 22:14
@thghgv Is there a proper step-by-step doc out there some where that outlines a typical load/find/replace/re-render process with this app??

It's as simple as going to Post #1 of this thread and clicking on "Guide" ;>}

johnnytav
20th February 2011, 04:24
Hi Dean

Having a problem with Menu out of sync with Samsung bd player
set at 24 fps. When I unselect it and play the dvd the menu is ok.
Also after about 30 second the video slows down (like slow motion)
and losses the sound. I am in testing mode, I just bought a JVC HM690.
btw software from JVC also has menu problem with 24 fps but
not the slow down and no sound problem.
Any ideas?

JohnnyJT

latet
20th February 2011, 21:16
Hello,

Does multiAVCHD display a warning when there are high (too high) bitrate peaks in the imported video? Does it analyze the bitrate at all?

Thanks,

Latet

MrVideo
28th February 2011, 13:24
An app to be able to load, off HDD, the full backup of a BD and then present that BD structure in a GRAPHICAL fashion (not lists of numbers, radio buttons, and check boxes) for editing.

A BD structure is many times more complicated than a DVD, especially if BD-J is involved. Reverse engineering the java programs, while technically possible, is more difficult to graphically chart without the source and the program that authored the disc.

As pointed out you will need a professional BD authoring package to even start to figure what is going on in a BD disc.

MrVideo
28th February 2011, 13:30
OK, anyone know where Dean has vanished to?

setarip_old
28th February 2011, 18:29
Real world requirements...

thghgv
1st March 2011, 20:42
attempting to work with the properties page in BD-Reauthor mode and when attempting to do ANYTHING in that window it takes 30sec to a minute to recover after making a video viewer adjustment or simply clicking on the next resource listing. This app is running on a 2.8 ghz QUAD-CORE 32 bit XP system. Is this proper sort of operation for this app running under such a system????

Capsbackup
2nd March 2011, 04:01
attempting to work with the properties page in BD-Reauthor mode and when attempting to do ANYTHING in that window it takes 30sec to a minute to recover after making a video viewer adjustment or simply clicking on the next resource listing. This app is running on a 2.8 ghz QUAD-CORE 32 bit XP system. Is this proper sort of operation for this app running under such a system????

Try opening your ffdshow DXVA Video Decoder Configuration and select " Don't Use ffdshow In ".
Unselect "Use ffdshow only in".
I remember this having to do with AVSInfo, found in the tools folder of multiAVCHD. It is not recommended, but if the aforementioned does not work, you could try renaming AVSInfo to AVSInfo.hold, and see if that works.

thghgv
2nd March 2011, 20:26
Try opening your ffdshow DXVA Video Decoder Configuration and select " Don't Use ffdshow In ".
Unselect "Use ffdshow only in".


Yes that works much better now. thanks.

One other thing though.. I'm noticing that the properties pages don't seem to want to display STILL image frames of any duration. Is that a bug or maybe a setting change? I looked but didn't find any setting(s) that were pertinent...

Capsbackup
3rd March 2011, 02:03
Yes that works much better now. thanks.

One other thing though.. I'm noticing that the properties pages don't seem to want to display STILL image frames of any duration. Is that a bug or maybe a setting change? I looked but didn't find any setting(s) that were pertinent...

Mine displays the images for video titles just fine, but some still images do not display, especially the warnings I want to blank! :p
You can try and click in the preview window, which will bring up Mplayer to play the clip, sometimes this works but often not. :(
I usually look at the top of the preview window for the associated .m2ts file being displayed, then try to open that file with Windows Media Player or Media Player Classic to view the contents of this .m2ts for blanking or keeping. But this is a very time consuming method.
I seem to remember when you install Haali there is an option to display a couple different program streams that are not selected by default, so you could try a reinstall of haali and check for those options during the install. :)

Cela
5th March 2011, 19:31
OK, anyone know where Dean has vanished to?...Real world requirements...Yes, it's a pity! Dean is approaching, but still some months off, the approx. 1 year update cycle of leading payware (Adobe, Cyberlink, Nero, VideoRedo, etc.) But his fine application is far more versatile and practically freeware (donationware).

As I mentioned sometime ago elsewhere *), instead of donationware, I would be ready to pay the yearly toll that the aforementioned payware vendors request the user to pay for the year n+1 release of their consumer products with those shiny marketing postnames (Pro, Ultimate, Platinum, Elements,...) and with mostly only minor to no real improvements.

*) My my posting from 27 Aug 2009, 15:18 in http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=265&start=27 as answer to Dean's posting from 27 Aug 2009, 14:45
in http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=265&start=26 ... with MANY, MANY more updates, upgrades, ....

setarip_old
5th March 2011, 22:15
@Cela

Hi! instead of donationware, I would be ready to pay the yearly toll... So, just send 'deank" a donation in the amount you deem would be an appropriate "toll" ;>}

BZeeme
6th March 2011, 12:01
multiAVCHD is an exceptional product that I find is great for sharing home movies on Blu-rays and for backing up BDs with multiple episodes. I've been hoping Dean would return to do bug fixes and get multiAVCHD and the documentation polished up - even if he never adds a new feature. But as weeks turn into months, it seems that what we have now is it. Even the number of posts in this thread and on his forum are dwindling as people lose interest.

Thanks Dean. Your work is appreciated - even if the donations were few and far between.

latet
6th March 2011, 20:05
Thanks Dean. Your work is appreciated - even if the donations were few and far between.

Is there any alternative to multiAVCHD?

I've tested Sony DVD Architect Pro 5.0 but it crashes on importing some (not all) .m2ts files (just like Sony Vegas pro). This is serious problem for me. And also - it can't import .mkv files. Two good reasons not to like it.

On the other hand - I find multiAVCHD unstable. It often crashes (x264.exe crash) generating animated title menu icons. It need 100 minor improvements but it is still the best I know...

setarip_old
6th March 2011, 20:56
@latet

Hi! On the other hand - I find multiAVCHD unstable.Wow, talk about (negative) exaggeration!
I have used and tested many (not all) aspects of multiAVCHD since its inception and have found most of the finalized functions to be rock solid - including the oddball functions that "deank" has surprised users with, such as conversion to HD-DVD, 3D conversion, conversion to standard DVD, player specific Blu-ray "packages", cropping and uncropping, ad infinitum.

Although there may be one or two legitimately unstable functions (I haven't tried all of the literally dozens of multiAVCHD functions), most postings of problems in this thread, as well as those at the forum maintained by "deank" at his home site, have proved to be simple misinterpretations of how to properly use the functions.

When you consider just how complex multiAVCHD is and how it evolved, other than (unrealistic) a complete overhaul of its presentation (perhaps separate "pages" of an onscreen "book" for each function), I believe that the only thing lacking for multiAVCHD is up-to-date, comprehensive documentation...

JoeH
7th March 2011, 07:55
MultiAVCHD is very stable as long as you respect some of its basic rules... for example, never start a job, cancel it, and then switch to another job without closing MultiAVCHD and opening it up again. One session, one job. (I'm not inventing it - Dean says so).

elmarikon
8th March 2011, 21:07
Hi guys!

I have a little issue with multiavchd.
No BluRay player will allow me to jump to the next title in my play list. Of cause I tried the 'auto chapter at end of title' option.
I also did try different players (Sony/Phillips) and different versions of multiAVChd (3.0/4.0). No success:-(
Is there a solution?

All the best!

Cela
8th March 2011, 22:57
Hi! So, just send 'deank" a donation in the amount you deem would be an appropriate "toll" ;>} Yes, sure, I will, if evereybody else who wants a new version does. For example, like every single Nero10 user will do who will want to upgrade to Nero11.

Back in August 2009 I addressed the generally adopted scheme (beyond the individual donation scheme) to keep software developments running, that _all_ users of the benefits of a newly released version should add their share, pay the toll, to ensure continuous support and development, and not only a little minority of donators.

Aren't we all experiencing right now what we get, when we rely on that _others_ will generously donate?

I am not Bill Gates, even if I wanted, as a single person, I would never be able to pay the fair price for what Dean has created!

Dean, thanks for your generous gift to us all!

setarip_old
9th March 2011, 05:21
@Cela

I can honestly say that I have no idea why this seems so significant to you.

1) Actually, it sounds to me that you're essentially trying to make "deank" a slave to those who, under your scenario, would be purchasers of his software.

2) Is there anyone amongst us who knows, WITH CERTAINTY, what the multiple tax, licensing, and accounting ramifications would be?

I'm sure that if "deank" deems it appropriate, he'll respond to your suggestion...

Cela
9th March 2011, 21:42
What really is significant to me is that Dean does not stop support and development of his outstanding, incomparable, unique multiAVCHD and that I am ready to add my share to help overcome the "Real world requirements..." (your words), which may prevent this since last September. What furthermore may be significant is that not a single person or a small minority of donators but, more probably, only the efforts of a large group of supporters, call them customers, could have a fair chance to make a difference.

Is there any alternative to multiAVCHD?

I've tested Sony DVD Architect Pro 5.0 but it crashes on importing some (not all) .m2ts files (just like Sony Vegas pro). This is serious problem for me. And also - it can't import .mkv files. Two good reasons not to like it.
...I too cannot see any alternative to multiAVCHD out there. Certainly not in the price range or NeroVision, PowerDirector, Premiere Elements, Magix Video deluxe, etc. None of these accepts an equal variety of input media, none offers the variety of output options, allows user control to specific output file formats, bit rate settings, etc, offers comparable chapters, stream replacement, menu features, etc. Though some advertise their Smart Render abilities, in all my tests, each one of them insisted in heavy re-encoding of the same unchanged footage, even for small menu changes - instances where multiAVCHD never would re-encode! And I could not observe any real progress concerning the superfluous re-encoding orgy for years! So, there is NO adequate alternative, neither ready for use nor in sight!

Maybe my suggested product approach will turn out to be just as unsuccessful as the donation approach. Hope you find a better one. What will really count is that Dean will return at least part of his focus back to further support and development of multiAVCHD!

That's my final five cents...

setarip_old
9th March 2011, 22:37
@Cela

And for my final comment regarding this topic, I would reiterate:

I'm sure that if "deank" deems it appropriate, he'll respond to your suggestion...

Ghitulescu
10th March 2011, 11:12
I too cannot see any alternative to multiAVCHD out there. Certainly not in the price range or NeroVision, PowerDirector, Premiere Elements, Magix Video deluxe, etc. None of these accepts an equal variety of input media, none offers the variety of output options, allows user control to specific output file formats, bit rate settings, etc, offers comparable chapters, stream replacement, menu features, etc. Though some advertise their Smart Render abilities, in all my tests, each one of them insisted in heavy re-encoding of the same unchanged footage, even for small menu changes - instances where multiAVCHD never would re-encode! And I could not observe any real progress concerning the superfluous re-encoding orgy for years! So, there is NO adequate alternative, neither ready for use nor in sight!

Also in your quoted paragraph, there's one single issue: MKV.

I'm afraid all of you simply forget that MKV is not supported by the industry, and therefore there's not a single legal source for it. Supporting MKV input means for the software company an indirect support for stealing content and may be sued for this. So one cannot really compare the two things. Not that I have something against MultiAVCHD, au contraire! but I want to clear some "misunderstandings".

Cela
10th March 2011, 18:18
I do not use MKV. Please exclude the unintented implicit inclusion of MKV from my statement. The re-encoding orgy of the mentioned consumer level applications holds for my personal m2ts camcorder footage *) for which no one else than myself holds the copyright!

*) shot with my simple Sony AVCHD camcorder

setarip_old
10th March 2011, 19:24
@Ghitulescu I'm afraid all of you simply forget that MKV is not supported by the industry, and therefore there's not a single legal source for it. Supporting MKV input means for the software company an indirect support for stealing content and may be sued for this.Perhaps you're confused, or you're just blowing smoke up "Cela's" skirts.

Unless something has significantly changed recently, the .MKV container format is and always has been OPEN SOURCE, available for all to use.

The following is a quote from WikiPedia:
The Matroska Multimedia Container is an open standard free container format, a file format that can hold an unlimited number of video, audio, picture or subtitle tracks inside a single file.[1] It is intended to serve as a universal format for storing common multimedia content, like movies or TV shows. Matroska is similar in concept to other containers like AVI, MP4 or ASF, but is entirely open in specification, with implementations consisting mostly of open source software. Matroska file types are .MKV for video (with subtitles and audio), .MKA for audio-only files and .MKS for subtitles only.

latet
10th March 2011, 20:00
I do not use MKV. Please exclude the unintented implicit inclusion of MKV from my statement. The re-encoding orgy of the mentioned consumer level applications holds for my personal m2ts camcorder footage *) for which no one else than myself holds the copyright!
*) shot with my simple Sony AVCHD camcorder

But I do use MKV. For my personal camcorder footage *) for which no one else than myself holds the copyright! I keep my footage in MKV for high convince (all the hardware I have can play it: PC, TV, hardware mediaplayer). This is not true that it has nothing to do with Blu-ray. Even preparing MKV's I do care about BD compliance of the video and audio streams in order for faster and easier muxing (without re-encoding) to .m2ts and authoring to BD, whenever the need appears. And the other way to - I don't want anything (like frame doubling) in my BD .m2ts files that won't be compatible with MKV if I (or someone else) decides to convert my own home-made BD disks into MKV files.

*) shot with my simple Sony AVCHD camera

deank
12th March 2011, 16:22
Guys,

I need someone with PS3 (or another type of player) and a 3D setup (TV) to check something. I managed to convert a small 8sec sample from Panasonc 3D Blu-ray demo disc from 1920x1080@23.976 to the sizzled 3D format, which Playstation 3 (and other players, which support single-file-3d-content) plays in 3d.

Download the file, put it on a USB stick and give it a try on your PS3 - just play the file from XMB VIDEO tab. Your PS3 should recognize the packed 3d and prompt you... or try to play it in your player.

Source: 1920x1080@23.976fps AVC (left + right) + DTS audio
Result: 1280x720@59.94fps AVC (frame packed left+right) + AC3 audio

Panasonic3D-[sizzle-test-2].m2ts (5.33 MB)
Download link: http://www.multiupload.com/DCIN1RIRKS

If such approach works, it is really easy to create single files for 3d playback from 3d blu-ray discs.

An example of the format is the official sony trailer (MP4): http://poseidon.dl.playstation.net/cdn/UP9000/NPUL00108_00/FREE_CONTENT6h5UXVMKmPkL0JiN7yIY/E320103DSizzle_Trailer-3D720.MP4?product=0084&country=us

Dean

mariner
12th March 2011, 17:42
Greetings Dean. Welcome back.

Congratulations, once again, for being the first to successfully create PS3 compatible 3D frame sequential video.

There is another single file 3D format that you may wish to explore: MVC in mp4 container. See this thread for more details.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=159339

Best regards.

xvibe
13th March 2011, 12:31
Hi deank, I've tested both files but only the file provided by sony worked. Not tested the file that mariner indicated....
When I start playing the sony file the PS3 ask me if I wan't to see it in 3D but the file that you made just plays as a normal 2d file. Anyway it's not so normal because you see that there are two images at the same time but played as if it's a normal 2d movie.
My setup is 3DTV Sony Bravia HX-800, AV receiver Yamaha RX-V767 with HDMI 1.4 and a PS3. The PS3 is connected to the TV thru the AV receiver using the HDMI connections.
Anyway you should have an option on multiAVCHD to have the subtitles corrected for 3D SBS movies like the this app do:
http://84.27.10.123/3DSubtitler/

deank
13th March 2011, 12:34
It seems the PS3 supports the format only when multiplexed in MP4 container with some specific atoms... I have no info on the subject atm.

I'll appreciate if anyone can post a sample structure recorded with AVCHD 3D capable camcoder. Video usually is SBS with some black bounding boxes, but I'm interested in the file structure, which makes the player switch to 3D (and we're talking about AVCHD, not Blu-ray 3D).

xvibe
13th March 2011, 14:46
Well the file pointed by mariner gives me a corrupted data on the PS3....

SuperFist
13th March 2011, 14:53
@SuperFist Yes...
Thank you and the others who took the time out of your busy days to respond to my inquiries. I have had BD Rebuilder for a few months as I downloaded it in an attempt to procure all the blu-ray authoring programs I could but interestingly enough, I never tried it for some reason. I am, however, giving it a whirl now and will be pitting it against the results of DVDFab and MultiAVCHD in order to satisfy my own curiosity.

alimao
13th March 2011, 15:32
Guys,

I need someone with PS3 (or another type of player) and a 3D setup (TV) to check something. I managed to convert a small 8sec sample from Panasonc 3D Blu-ray demo disc from 1920x1080@23.976 to the sizzled 3D format, which Playstation 3 (and other players, which support single-file-3d-content) plays in 3d.

Download the file, put it on a USB stick and give it a try on your PS3 - just play the file from XMB VIDEO tab. Your PS3 should recognize the packed 3d and prompt you... or try to play it in your player.

Source: 1920x1080@23.976fps AVC (left + right) + DTS audio
Result: 1280x720@59.94fps AVC (frame packed left+right) + AC3 audio

Panasonic3D-[sizzle-test-2].m2ts (5.33 MB)
Download link: http://www.multiupload.com/DCIN1RIRKS

If such approach works, it is really easy to create single files for 3d playback from 3d blu-ray discs.

An example of the format is the official sony trailer (MP4): http://poseidon.dl.playstation.net/cdn/UP9000/NPUL00108_00/FREE_CONTENT6h5UXVMKmPkL0JiN7yIY/E320103DSizzle_Trailer-3D720.MP4?product=0084&country=us

Dean

not work. I tried a samsung c8000 46. not activate the glasses. this sample video
this video downloaded from the psn uncharted 3 3d . active glasses usually
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9M1W0GNI

deank
15th March 2011, 08:39
So no one with Panasonic HDC-SDT750K 3D capable AVCHD camcoder to post a small sample of the whole structure?

I may also add half-SBS to the stereo output formats - it seems that most 3D equipment supports it.

Btw the panasonic's cam (HDC-SDT750K) SBS interlaced 1920x1080 can be easily converted to any other stereo format easily using avisynth (for example to half SBS 1920x1080@23.976):


b=directshowsource("D:\Panasonic3D-SBS.MTS").AssumeFrameBased.bob(height=1080).SeparateFields.weave

allL=Crop(b, 66,50,-1026,-50)
allR=Crop(b, 1026,50,-66,-50)

stackhorizontal(allL,allR).selectevery(2,0).assumeframebased.changefps(24000,1001).lanczosresize(1920,1080)