multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[deank]

Yes, sorry about that. Too much new info is stored in the project file about internal audio/subtitles... That's why it crashes i guess.

I hope now it will be okay and more stable.

Please if you get an error - give me the exact line number where it occurs.

Dean

[phate89]

@lchiu7:

For some reason you're reading between the lines or not willing to understand what I'm saying.

1) I explained that I'm adding Volume split to multiAVCHD

2) popBD doesn't demux the audio - I have no idea what you've seen and why you decided it does - it will split your 8GB file in one pass with tsMuxeR and then will prepare 2 AVCHD folders for 2 DVDs.

@SiC: If you send me a small sample with AVC+FLAC I may try to implement it.

Dean

you don't think that popbd could be integrated in multiavchd? maybe with an image which tell: end of the first part at the end of the part? could be a good pro version a tool which includes both...

[deank]

I guess my english is too bad to explain myself.

Let's rephrase:

1) I'm ADDING VOLUME SPLIT TO MULTIAVCHD which in other words is IMPLEMENTING POPBD inside multiAVCHD.

2) Read 1) again.

[svcdprayer]

@dean i tried your build and i removed successfully audio that i dont want, how can i position srt to display where i want in your software?

also on subtitles is checked forced to display subtitles, but for me on mpc-hc it dosent work, i must manually turn it on from navigation. and then srt shows up perfectly.

any guesses what might be? some flag must be turned on?

i see on audio is turned on and works perfectly

thanks

[deank]

You can use the OFFSET setting in Muxer tab to reposition subtitles.

I told you already that subtitles not auto showing in mpc-hc is not a problem of mine. It seems it is ignoring the flag.

[schlaufer]

Three suggestions for the future (I dare not to call them feature "requests"):

a) when project saving/storing is mature and tested enough, what do you think of batch processing?
b) tsMuxeR has the option to extract the SD streams out of HD audio streams. It would be nice, if multiAVCHD includes this option in the editor controls
c) more a vague idea than a real suggestion: with xmb, slide and carousel with have three nice "standard" menu options. wouldn't it be nice to give more advanced users direct access to the avisynth script by specifying a template, where multiAVCHD replaces patterns with the paths to chapter thumbnails, movie length etc.. This way we could all contribute easily to the set of "standard" menus and also create our own special menus when needed.

[svcdprayer]

@dean thanks! ill ask separately in players forum to see if it mpc-hc have something that can fix about the flag, maybe someone even here on your thread will give me the answer.

[deank]

Three suggestions for the future (I dare not to call them feature "requests"):

I'm glad to say that I'm a bit ahead of you with these 3 suggestions :)

1) and 2) will be available later today or tomorrow. About 3) I don't think it is fair to let only experienced users take advantage of it, so I'm preparing a Menu editor.

Dean

[phate89]

I guess my english is too bad to explain myself.

Let's rephrase:

1) I'm ADDING VOLUME SPLIT TO MULTIAVCHD which in other words is IMPLEMENTING POPBD inside multiAVCHD.

2) Read 1) again.

sorry but reading my post i understand i'm not so clear..my english isn't so good...yes i understand you work on split but i ask if it's possible to add an image at the end with write: end of first part...and i ask if you think it will be a pdonationware option or not..

[infiniter]

This is not a problem of multiAVCHD but your Directshow settings (or the format of the files you're adding).

There is a 'flip' option in ffdshow so you may use it before starting multiAVCHD.

This defect is caused by having TONS of codecs installed and they all try to work, but they interfere with each other.

Dean
That's what I supposed in my first post. Now the problem is, which codec is used by multiAVCHD. The lame H264 codec of ffdshow is disabled, I'm using CoreAVC. I played the video in MPC, ZP and WMP - they all run fine with it and nothing's upside down. If I open it in TMPGEnc 4.0, which also uses DirectShow, it's correct.

[deank]

@phate89:
You're making FUTURE requests about a FUTURE option?!

Let me decide how to LOG what's happening during multiAVCHD processing :)


@infiniter: I think there is a flip option in CoreAVC, too. multiAVCHD uses Directshow, not a specific filter/decoder. It uses the one that Avisynth decides.

Dean

[schlaufer]

I don't think it is fair to let only experienced users take advantage of it, so I'm preparing a Menu editor.
Whoever dares to work with avisynth is an experienced user in the spirit of my comment. ;)

I am glad to read, that you are not only considering my suggestions but that you've already thought of some of them.

:thanks:

[infiniter]

@infiniter: I think there is a flip option in CoreAVC, too. multiAVCHD uses Directshow, not a specific filter/decoder. It uses the one that Avisynth decides.

Dean
Thanks for the help, but all that is what I checked before going here to ask for help. There is no flip option in CoreAVC.
So I went and used the filter management feature of Zoomplayer to edit the merit of any H264 codec installed, except CoreAVC, to 00200000. With this, AviSynth should use CoreAVC, if possible. Unfortunately, it didn't help.
Strange thing is, that the title properties windows still shows upside down, but when clicking preview, the chapter preview windows shows correctly.
I also tried to uncheck "Use DirectShow", but then I got errors when it tried to create thumbails.

[HDBytes]

Dean, a small glitch. Updated from build 621 to 623 and 623 will not load the project created and saved with 621.

[11:47:56] multiAVCHD.dat version: [02070611]
[11:48:16] Imported project version is unsupported! (build: 617)

Can this be fixed so the project does not need to be created from scratch again?

Thanks.

[deank]

If you load it you won't have the internal audio information and errors may occur. You can open .mpf file with notepad and change the BUILD information for the first title to 623.

Not a good idea tho because you may lose all internal audio/subtitle tracks. I'm working to fix it today, so just wait a bit. I think it won't be possible but at least the names can be kept.. still i'm not sure.

[HDBytes]

If you load it you won't have the internal audio information and errors may occur. You can open .mpf file with notepad and change the BUILD information for the first title to 623.

Not a good idea tho because you may lose all internal audio/subtitle tracks. I'm working to fix it today, so just wait a bit.

OK....will be patient and wait for a fix...sounds :D like a better solution than having no audio and worse.

Thanks

[deank]

Contact me via skype and send me your .mpf file - i'll fix it so you can continue. If it is from buil 621 it should work i think.

[rendez2k]

deank, have you got any plans to add better support for odd resolution MKV files? By support. I mean maybe a way to preview what a file may look like (as I've had some that play fine despite being odd and some that don't) or maybe a built-in version of something like uncropMKV that will just do what needs to be done as it were automatically?! I'm not sure if theres a hard and fast rule to what will and won't work! Sorry if its been discussed before....

[deank]

Build 624:

* [x] Core only option in Internal audio tab of Title properties for DTS HR/MA and Dolby TrueHD audio tracks. Using this option overrides [x] Convert HD audio options in Settings.

I tested it with m2ts files but it should work with MKVs too. Let me know if something is wrong.

* all multiAVCHD settings are saved in the current project, so the next time you load it you'll have all options as they were the last time you saved the project. Options will be loaded from a project ONLY if it is the FIRST loaded in multiAVCHD and there are no titles/files loaded.

Dean


@rendez2k: In title properties you can see the ref-count for a loaded mkv file. If it is too high - file won't work. In some of the previous builds unsupported ref-count files were marked in red, but not now. I'll add it again. Otherwise - I can't know what user will use for final playback and I really don't want to add uncropMKV functions to multiAVCHD.

***

After Softpedia, multiAVCHD was rewarded by http://www.soft82.com/images/download_buttons/soft82_icon.gif (http://www.soft82.com/download/windows/multiavchd/) too.

[phate89]

in the edit of the media tab if the resolution is incorrect is write in red...can you do the same thing with the ref frames?

[deank]

Yes... do you read my posts at all? It is done already. Use multiUPDATE if you're not sure what multiAVCHD you have.

[HDBytes]

Contact me via skype and send me your .mpf file - i'll fix it so you can continue. If it is from buil 621 it should work i think.

Dean, thanks for the offer! I opened the mpf in notepad and replaced all 617 with 623 and it opened in build 624. I made my changes and it appears to be working as it identifies the audio files during the compiling process. Thanks for info that I could try to salvage my project that way.

I am trying the poster frame file function instead of using seconds into the file...a nice feature to get the frame you want for the thumbnail. Still have not made use of all the nice features you have built in....and continue to add.

Once you create a file for a blu-ray disk, can it be converted or altered to be used on a USB without going throught a re-build of the project?

[schlaufer]

Loading a build 622 project into 624: (RT) Part of Delimited text not found - Line 8506 when processing

[deank]

We agreed not to import playlists from earlier (622 and former) into multiAVCHD, didn't we?

use multiUPDATE - it should fix it.

Dean

@HDBytes: If you use 4000mib split you can convert it for USB in seconds.

[Atreide]

Hello,
it's been a while I haven't come back and browse this forum; I have kept using multiAVCHD for Panasonic SD card and all is well. Today however I wanted to try to create a menu to output on DVD. When I go to the editor tab and try to edit the titles I get an error with pop-up windows 'Windows - No Disc'. If I cancel several times I manage to get into the editor but in the end it doesn't seem to be working fully (Menu preview doesn't show the preview thumbnails when using Slide menu).
Does anyone else has this problem ? Actually I also get this when I want to edit the title for SD output, it used to work fine but now it's not anymore since a couple of weeks I think, it shows again 'MultiAVCHD' in the Panasonic menu instead of the file name given.
Here is a screen of the error :
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3083/errorfzt.jpg

[HDBytes]

@HDBytes: If you use 4000mib split you can convert it for USB in seconds.

None of the titles in the project are larger than 4000mib, so can I just transfer the whole thing onto a USB without running it through multiAVCHD again?

Thanks.

[deank]

You can disable title preview in settings: [x] Disable preview in title properties and it will work.

It seems you don't have proper Avisynth + Directshow codecs to see the preview - hence the errors.

Also - make sure you download the FULL package.

Another suggestion is to install multiAVCHD in C:\multiAVCHD.

[deank]

None of the titles in the project are larger than 4000mib, so can I just transfer the whole thing onto a USB without running it through multiAVCHD again?

If you used "Blu-ray for BD-R" output mode your can't use the result directly to play from USB (with Playstation3) - you need to make it AVCHD. It will take seconds anyway because it will just move all files into the new folder, create proper index.bdm and other stuff and will only recreate the menu - that's about it.

[HDBytes]

If you used "Blu-ray for BD-R" output mode your can't use the result directly to play from USB (with Playstation3) - you need to make it AVCHD. It will take seconds any way because it will just move all files into the new folder, create proper index.bdm and other stuff and will only recreate the menu - that's about it.

OK...multiAVCHD makes things just soooo easy! :cool:

[phate89]

Yes... do you read my posts at all? It is done already. Use multiUPDATE if you're not sure what multiAVCHD you have.

sorry for the mistake..you add again the feature in the 624 right? because i wait half an hour to tell of the red option..the next time i reopen the program and i post the problem immediatly ;)

[Atak_Snajpera]

Final free version will allow only 8-16 titles... Of course it may be in july, or december, or it may never happen.
8-16 titles smells like DEMO Version :( In this case you literally force users to pay you for full product. And here's the problem. How can you charge people if whole engine (TSmuxer) does not belong to you. TSmuxer's license

2. Restrictions
SmartLabs LLC reserves the right to revoke the above distribution right at any time, for any or no reason.

YOU MAY NOT MODIFY, ADAPT, TRANSLATE, RENT, LEASE, LOAN, SELL, REQUEST DONATIONS OR CREATE DERIVATE WORKS BASED UPON THE SOFTWARE OR ANY PART THEREOF.

The Software contains trade secrets and to protect them you may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce the Software to a humanly perceivable form. You agree not to divulge, directly or indirectly, until such trade secrets cease to be confidential, for any reason not your own fault.

Did you get any permission from smartlabs regarding using their software in commercial product?

[Atreide]

You can disable title preview in settings: [x] Disable preview in title properties and it will work.

It seems you don't have proper Avisynth + Directshow codecs to see the preview - hence the errors.

Also - make sure you download the FULL package.

Another suggestion is to install multiAVCHD in C:\multiAVCHD.

OK, thanks. I had downloaded full package today due to the new versions since I last updated.
Disabling preview did prevent the error, I will check that everything is fine in the final output.
I had installed Avisynth and should have Directshow codecs so will try the suggestion to install on the C: drive.
Thanks again, great program and great work ! :thanks:

[deank]

I've read the license agreement of tsmuxer. I don't see where I said that I'm making multiAVCHD commercial or I'm going to sell copies of it. AND EVEN IF I DECIDE to do it - I don't see a problem, because I can sell multiAVCHD.exe.

It is up to me to decide how many titles multiAVCHD will support. So please give me a break.

All things that happen in multiAVCHD depend on free software so everyone can do all of them their selves - NOT the menu, NOT the Panasonc support and a lot of things you don't even understand.

I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I've spent hundreds of sleepless hours with multiAVCHD, so please don't tell me what I can do and what I can't.

* multiAVCHD does not depend on tsMuxeR to create a menu

* multiAVCHD does not depend on tsMuxeR if you want to add Blu-ray discs or AVCHD compilations in normal mode

You're really something :) you know.

This is the last time I reply to your posts and also carousel menu will be removed. I don't want to have anything with arrogant and egocentric people as you proved to be.

[deank]

To all multiAVCHD users:

I'll move out multiAVCHD thead and discussion out from doom9. I'll set up my forum site tomorrow or the next day, so I don't get distracted by such comments. Most of you are welcome to join. I'll post the link later.

[SeeMoreDigital]

To all multiAVCHD users:

I'll move out multiAVCHD thead and discussion out from doom9. I'll set up my forum site tomorrow or the next day, so I don't get distracted by such comments. Most of you are welcome to join. I'll post the link later.It's a real shame you feel you have to do this Dean but I understand your motives.

When you start your forum, please count me in ;)

[HDBytes]

To all multiAVCHD users:

I'll move out multiAVCHD thead and discussion out from doom9. I'll set up my forum site tomorrow or the next day, so I don't get distracted by such comments. Most of you are welcome to join. I'll post the link later.

Dean,..."build it and they will come" (Field of Dreams). Lead the way to the new home of multiAVCHD. ;) I knew there was potentially trouble when there was "more than one chef in the kitchen". :devil:

[deank]

http://multiFORUM.deanBG.com/

Anyone willing to join is welcome.

I won't discuss any multiAVCHD related topics in this thread anymore.

[schlaufer]

Please consider staying at doom9.

At least 2 good reasons:

a) managing a forum seems trivial at first but turns out very time consuming after a while - I hope you agree, that this can be better spend on writing software
b) after all, doom9 had its share in making multiAVCHD, popBD and uncropMKV the software that it is and its popularity

I think, everybody can see, that you and Atak are not on the best terms - so just put him on your personal ignore list.

[deank]

a) Don't worry: I manage more than 20 intranet sites, take care of programming over 15 Information systems and I find time for multiAVCHD - that's all in 24 hrs/day.

Dean

[nathanarizona]

Hope your still checking this forum for a few days... With latest versions (22-25) I'm getting "PCM tracks not allowed" message in log ,using same files I have used previously with no problems in earlier versions. Also I can't seem to get a confirmation email from your new forum :) or I would have posted there.

Thanks!

[johns0]

Cant get a confirmation email from the new forum either,if anyone here can post at the new forum can you tell deank that some email activations arent being sent out.

[desray]

Hi John, no email activation is required. Hurry go and register at deank's new forum. Its sad that its has turn out this way.

[johns0]

Thanks for the info,can login now.:)

[desray]

8-16 titles smells like DEMO Version :( In this case you literally force users to pay you for full product. And here's the problem. How can you charge people if whole engine (TSmuxer) does not belong to you. TSmuxer's license

2. Restrictions
SmartLabs LLC reserves the right to revoke the above distribution right at any time, for any or no reason.

YOU MAY NOT MODIFY, ADAPT, TRANSLATE, RENT, LEASE, LOAN, SELL, REQUEST DONATIONS OR CREATE DERIVATE WORKS BASED UPON THE SOFTWARE OR ANY PART THEREOF.

The Software contains trade secrets and to protect them you may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce the Software to a humanly perceivable form. You agree not to divulge, directly or indirectly, until such trade secrets cease to be confidential, for any reason not your own fault.

Did you get any permission from smartlabs regarding using their software in commercial product?


After looking at this post by Atak, I totally LOST my respect for this guy...Initially I thought his contribution to multiAVCHD program is with a common good to make this program even better (aesthetically-speaking of course)...but this particular post really hit the 'home-run' :mad: I dun understand why a person will have to resort to such act here?

What do you intend to derive out of it?! Ask yourself are you using deank's program as well? If you like it...why even bother to make such a big fuss all over the use of third party utility to make this program work?! You know what I will call you...'A hypocrite'...So are you happy now Atak?

[shon3i]

multiAVCHD is a powerful GUI for tsmuxer and other programs, and the developer has all the rights to sell, in how someone does not fit, there is TsMuxerGUI. BDRebulder will probably came into same distribution.

[johns0]

Other programs use ffmpeg as part of their program that they sell but no one else complains.Why complain about multiavchd using tsmuxer when it does far more than these other programs do.

[schlaufer]

@desray:
obeying to license rules of embedded/re-distributed software is a delicate topic and every product, commercial or not. Every software distributor has to take care of that. A commercial distribution of any software should either get the agreement of all third-party authors included in the distribution or should not include but list them as requirements (maybe with a nice installation guide).

Personally, I would have risen this issue in a PM rather than a forum's post as I won't consider this of particular interest for most readers of this thread.

The annoying part of Atak's post is How can you charge people if whole engine (TSmuxer) does not belong to you.
As in his previous post about "his" carousel menu, he disprized the work Dean did on multiAVCHD in an utterly manner.

[Cela]

Build 625: error processing "Test_NVEExport.mp4".
Details in
Invalid_array_index_43_Line_2947.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/239913076/Invalid_array_index_43_Line_2947.rar)

Please also have a look at Some_ideas__questions_and_specs_for_multiAVCHD.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/237174515/Some_ideas__questions_and_specs_for_multiAVCHD.rar).
(Aspect Ratio issue and simple text menu)
Waiting for feedback.

Thanks,

Cela

[nwg]

@Atak.

How is this program any different to your Ripbot which also uses TsMuxer to create the Blu Ray Structures? I can't see any.

TsMuxer isn't getting sold or modified so I can't see how your argument holds up.

Registered on the new forum now so I will be leaving this thread too.

[desray]

@desray:
obeying to license rules of embedded/re-distributed software is a delicate topic and every product, commercial or not. Every software distributor has to take care of that. A commercial distribution of any software should either get the agreement of all third-party authors included in the distribution or should not include but list them as requirements (maybe with a nice installation guide).

Personally, I would have risen this issue in a PM rather than a forum's post as I won't consider this of particular interest for most readers of this thread.

The annoying part of Atak's post is How can you charge people if whole engine (TSmuxer) does not belong to you.
As in his previous post about "his" carousel menu, he disprized the work Dean did on multiAVCHD in an utterly manner.

Yes I agreed with you that its a rather delicate (sensitive topic) to touch on...so I dunno why Atak wanna even raise it in the first place...knowing well that its a touchy topic here?!

Enuff said, this will also be my last post in this thread...Moving on to the new forum.

Cheers!~