multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD [Archive] - Page 131

Capsbackup

25th August 2010, 17:19

capsbackup,

I too have had problems with hidden titles not playing. The program simply goes to the main menu, or just sits there with a black screen (in TMT3). I have not pursued it much, because I rarely use hidden titles.

Used 1 hidden title and 1 Main movie.

cwh

If you want to play a hidden title first, before going to the main menu, you need to select Skip top menu playback under playback sequence under the author tab.
The problem I am having is even though I select this, all hidden titles play and then the non-hidden titles play before it will go to the menu. ( I do not have Play All (sequential playback) selected though!)
I have set go to next title for all of the hidden titles except the last hidden title, which is set to Go to Menu. However, multiAVCHD is not doing what I ask! :p

meatwad

25th August 2010, 21:55

metabolicsaint

25th August 2010, 22:29

Beatnut

25th August 2010, 22:55

How do you enable 3D transcoding? I've gone through the settings and changed it to stereo left/right for shutter glasses, but every time I import a file to transcode the check box in the transcoder for 3D anaglyph won't let me check it. I've been searching the forums but I guess I'm not using the correct phrasing.

you need a valid 3d source to transcode to 3d, a video cant be made 3d out of a 2d video, you need 2 sources, 1 for the left eye, and 1 for the right eye.

meatwad

25th August 2010, 23:48

you need a valid 3d source to transcode to 3d, a video cant be made 3d out of a 2d video, you need 2 sources, 1 for the left eye, and 1 for the right eye.

I was afraid of that. Thanks.

deank

26th August 2010, 09:13

First, Add video files, 4 titles, by mpls, each created with BD-RB.
Under compilation, set title 1, 2 and 3 to hidden. Title 4 is my main feature and only non-hidden title. Set After playback for titles 1 and 2 to go to next title. Set After playback of title 3 to go to menu. Set After playback of title 4 to go to menu.
Go to Author tab, and under Menu Style and Options select Create Top Menu, Slide Menu. Under Playback Sequence, select Skip Welcome Screen and Skip Top Menu Playback, and Action After Last Title: Display Menu.
Under Menu tab/General, select Default menu type - static. Backround Image - my custom 1920x1080.bmp. Also select Create Chapter Menu Page and Create audio/subtitle setup pages.
As I mentioned before, this has worked for me on a previous multiAVCHD version. It just has not worked since then.
I reported it here, so this was the time frame, from post # 6163:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744&page=309

Followed your steps 2 times (1st with [x] Play all and 2nd [-] Play all - just in case, although it shouldn't matter). Both times 1,2,3 hidden titles play one after another and then the top menu is displayed. [] Play launches the movie (title #4).

I can see that there is a problem with SETUP/CHAPTERS menu pages, because the menu-programming was never thought to work with hidden titles :( That's a though one and I think I'll rewrite the code for hidden titles cases.

Still the playback flow is correct and the only thing I can think of is that at some point multiAVCHD cannot correctly write into movieobject.bdmv during the authoring phase.

deank

26th August 2010, 09:14

I have been using MultiAVCHD for sometime now but lately after updates when i load a .mp4 file and try to go into properties it will freeze up and If I do get into properties transcode button will freeze. If I skip all that and click "Fit All" and its about to encode it will just sit there for hours upon hours not even move, never had this problem before but now it does it all the time.

Check your FFDSHOW settings for 'allowed applications'. Probably it halts multiAVCHD/avsinfo/x264/mx264... or simply reinstall ffdshow and avisynth...

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/downloads/

You can download multiTEST and check your PC decoding capabilities, too.

Dean

deank

26th August 2010, 11:05

The latest update adds something requested long time ago:

* It is possible to use MKV/M2TS/MTS/TS files as 'background video' for WELCOME SCREEN

Using video file for background will auto set 'audio' to the same file to use its own audio.

Welcome screen duration is 1 to 30 seconds. If slider is moved to the far right (31) background video will not be cut, but used with its original duration.

Background video file must have AR of 16:9, otherwise it will be distorted by the mandatory resize to 1920x1080. Framerate should be 23.976/24/25/29.97/30fps.

Dean

deank

26th August 2010, 13:14

Want it or not, HD-DVD static menu is ready, too... It is fully customizable, just like the SD-DVD one (static only though with one PLAY button).

@setarip: It will be available in the next update and I'll appreciate if you can test it in your Toshiba player. :) Make sure that you have '[x] Create top menu' option in AUTHOR tab. Menu style selection doesn't matter.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_base_HDDVD_menu.jpg

I tested it with Nero Showtime and it works just fine.

deank

26th August 2010, 15:26

Build 767:

* Full-download (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.1.exe) or DAT-update (http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/datupdate/) required
* HD-DVD static menu
* Motion Welcome screen

With this update multiAVCHD supports menu for all available authoring formats:

* Blu-ray
* AVCHD
* SD DVD (DVD-Video) and
* HD DVD (3xDVD)

Dean

Capsbackup

26th August 2010, 15:29

Followed your steps 2 times (1st with [x] Play all and 2nd [-] Play all - just in case, although it shouldn't matter). Both times 1,2,3 hidden titles play one after another and then the top menu is displayed. [] Play launches the movie (title #4).

I can see that there is a problem with SETUP/CHAPTERS menu pages, because the menu-programming was never thought to work with hidden titles :( That's a though one and I think I'll rewrite the code for hidden titles cases.

Still the playback flow is correct and the only thing I can think of is that at some point multiAVCHD cannot correctly write into movieobject.bdmv during the authoring phase.

I am stumped! :p I tried v763 on my XP Pro OS, and I get the same consecutive title play thru all titles before the menu is displayed even though I have selected go to menu after the last hidden title is played. So it happens on that version for me as well.
The same with the latest update on my Win 7 OS. Two separate OS's with the same results? :confused: It would appear then it is on my end. Running BDedit on the backup will correct this, so I guess I will just have to deal with it!

It would be interesting, at least to me, if someone else could run a test with the same parameters and report their results.
For me, it is if the consecutive title play is "stuck" or not following the optional settings available.
So if anyone could try out 3 to 5 short titles as we have discussed here and let us know it would be greatly appreciated. :)

cwh060

26th August 2010, 17:56

If you want to play a hidden title first, before going to the main menu, you need to select Skip top menu playback under playback sequence under the author tab.
The problem I am having is even though I select this, all hidden titles play and then the non-hidden titles play before it will go to the menu. ( I do not have Play All (sequential playback) selected though!)

Your right, I did not have the "Skip top menu playback" selected. Once I did this everything worked.

I made an AVCHD project using 3 SD titles, 2 hidden and 1 Main (I Transcoded all titles to 4k bitrate) It worked as expected, the hiddens play first in the order I selected, then it went directly to the menu page. From there I could select the Main Title, Chapters etc.

This project was a simple single title movie, because I was using the Cover/Background features.

If you like I can try with more main titles and see what happens?

cwh

MrVideo

26th August 2010, 18:50

I told my friend about the Panasonic update and he applied it to the newer unit and the Blu-ray disc that didn't play. now plays. I've asked him the model number of the one that is fixed. The other, older unit, doesn't have a network connection, so he has to apply the firmware via CD.

deank

26th August 2010, 19:24

JSERLE

26th August 2010, 20:26

I am getting an error when MultiUpdate tries to upgrade DAT to 767.

ERROR: multiAVCHD.dat version/structure error!Update!

At that point I need to re-install 4.1 and avoid the update. Are others having this problem.

On a separate issue. I want to copy a large 41g BD disc with no loss of quality, split over 2 25g BD discs. I have an abundant supply of 25g BDRe discs, but no 50g ones. How would you do it using MultiAVCHD or other reliable tools?

deank

26th August 2010, 20:42

If you read the previous post you'll find a link for the DAT file. Download and extract in your multiAVCHD or perform full download from the link in the 1st post. multiAVCHD updates only multiAVCHD.exe and not the DAT. You need to download it yourself and use it with build 767.

About volume split. Load your movie playlist (mpls) and set "Media split size" in AUTHOR tab to 23000 then after you you click [START] you select "Volume split: [yes each 23000mb]".

Dean

MrVideo

26th August 2010, 22:52

It will be a really great news if Panasonics can finally play multiAVCHD 4.x authored structures. I wonder why it took nearly 8 months to 'fix' compatibility with my baby-tool :) I'd love a confirmation that we're talking about [Blu-ray] or/and [AVCHD relaxed] modes and not [AVCHD strict] one.

It is the first disc that I sent him, the Blu-ray build that it wouldn't play. I sent him an AVCHD strict disc, priority mail, but he has not received it yet. So much for Priority mail being 3 days at most. So, he can't even test the AVCHD build yet.

Capsbackup

27th August 2010, 01:14

Your right, I did not have the "Skip top menu playback" selected. Once I did this everything worked.

I made an AVCHD project using 3 SD titles, 2 hidden and 1 Main (I Transcoded all titles to 4k bitrate) It worked as expected, the hiddens play first in the order I selected, then it went directly to the menu page. From there I could select the Main Title, Chapters etc.

This project was a simple single title movie, because I was using the Cover/Background features.

If you like I can try with more main titles and see what happens?

cwh

Thank you for your test. I don't think it is necessary to proceed anymore.

Dean, I removed the "hidden" feature from my backups titles, rearranged my title order so that my main feature is title 1 followed by the previously hidden 2, 3, and 4 titles. I removed the selected "Skip top menu playback", and just let my backup start at the main menu. This works, and the previously unavailable to select subtitles for the main feature are now selectable. :)

I have been trying to emulate the look of an original Blu-ray, which is why I chose to have the intro hidden titles play first, followed by the main menu, and then be able to select to play the main title or the "extras" that are part of my Title Menu.
I did not want to be able to see/select the hidden titles again from the Title Menu, only the remaining non-hidden titles of my backup were to be present in that menu.

Is this a possibility, perhaps a custom menu template?
Several files are imported as titles for the backup. Title #1 will be the only title associated with "Play Movie".
The "Setup" and "Chapters" menu is also only associated with this title #1.
An additional Menu page, call it "Extras" or "Bonus", will have all other titles listed here. ( but not title #1) If a title from this menu page is selected, it will play to conclusion and return back to this menu page for selection of the next title within. There will be a button to return to the Main Menu as well.

:) :p I really don't ask for much!! :rolleyes:

I am quite pleased with the features of multiAVCHD, and think it is EXCELLENT the way it is. :D
However, additions like the aforementioned request would put multiAVCHD above a level no other program has reached! :cool:

MrVideo

27th August 2010, 01:59

The model number of the Panny that now works is: DMP-BD60

No update yet for the DMP-BD30 (if it is updated).

setarip_old

27th August 2010, 07:26

@deank

See your email...

deank

27th August 2010, 07:57

@Capsbackup: The latest feature with motion 'welcome screen' can take care of 1 (hidden) intro title, so for the time being you can use it.

JoeH

27th August 2010, 08:08

The model number of the Panny that now works is: DMP-BD60

No update yet for the DMP-BD30 (if it is updated).

That's great news Mr. Video! Thanks for the test. Hopefully Panisonic will release the firmware update for the BD35/55 models soon, and the Panasonic nightmare will be finally over...

Is anyone aware of whether Blu-ray players from Sharp have the same problems? I think I remember someone telling me so, but I can't confirm. Of course, practically no one has Sharp Blu-ray players so even if it is the case it's not so important.

deank

27th August 2010, 08:45

Some Samsung models wouldn't play multiAVCHD 4.x structures, but few months ago there was a firmware update from Samsung and it fixed it. Not sure about the Shaprs.

Music Fan

27th August 2010, 10:20

The model number of the Panny that now works is: DMP-BD60

No update yet for the DMP-BD30 (if it is updated).
I see that message the day I receive my new ... Sony Player (370).:rolleyes:
I got a Pana BD35 until today.:D

deank

27th August 2010, 10:32

Some time ago there were few camcoder users, who requested eac3to to be used instead of tsdemux when joining MTS/M2TS files (in join mode when dragging a folder with mts/m2ts files only).

Now the JOIN SELECTION window has two buttons:

[join with tsdemux] and [join with eac3to].

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_join_selection.jpg

Dean

worknstiff

27th August 2010, 12:47

Hi Dean, I am really impressed with multiAVCH. I have not used it lately and upgraded from 3.0 to version 4.1. I had an animation bluray with 40 titles that I added and created a simple static menu. The program worked absolutely perfect and after creating poster images and subtitles menu's for all 40 titles. It really is a great piece of blueray kit that is incredibly complex but still is simple enough for me to use, lol. I had previously used the 3.0 version to make menu's with just 4 episodes or so of some series blurays and after creating the Bluray I would feed it to BD_Rebuilder to compress it down to fit a BD-9. I was really surprised when BD_Rebuilder refused to open this latest compilation. It says it is an invalid bluray structure, so I went back and finished it using Strict Avchd disk instead of Blueray disk output. It now loads into BD_Rebuilder but now it shows like 3 different playlists (all of them incorrectly showing 15 min run times) to choose from and no audio. Is the 4.1 version not Bluray compliant or has BD_Rebuilder changed?

deank

27th August 2010, 12:57

I don't think there is a problem in multiAVCHD...

Just in case, check "AUXDATA" folder and remove "multiAVCHD.mpf" file if there is one there.

About the playlists - if there was something wrong, it wouldn't work in blu-ray players and viera tv.

I'll download bdrebuilder and try it myself if it is not related to the project (mpf) file in AUXDATA folder.

(I just tried with one-title compilation + menu, etc and bdrebuilder accepted it...)

worknstiff

27th August 2010, 13:55

Hi Dean, I appreciate your quick response to my question. I got so mad at the other computer when it failed to load my disk into BD_Rebuilder that I just cut it off and watched some tv last night. I had spent all afternoon putting all 40 of the titles into multiAVCHD and customizing the audio and title info that I was sick of the computer. I just fired up the AV computer now and it loaded the bluray compilation into BD_Rebuilder just fine. I have no idea why it would not work yesterday but right now BD_Rebuilder is happily churning along on the files. I will let you know if it is playable in my ancient Panasonic BD30 player when I burn it. I did notice that after changing the UNK audio streams in all 40 files to ENG in multiAVCH that BD_Rebuilder still had them all listed as UNK again, but is not really worth mentioning. I really love your program, thanks again for all your hard work. Donation will be sent shortly, Thanks again, worknstiff

deank

27th August 2010, 13:59

worknstiff

27th August 2010, 14:07

I think that was why I was using the 3.0 version and it has always worked for the static menu's before. Do you think I should use it again instead of the 4.1? Also I just checked my paypal account and it is low on funds but just send more should be there by Sept 1.

Capsbackup

27th August 2010, 14:38

@worknstiff;
You need to use lower case "eng", and then select change for the new language to keep. :)

Capsbackup

27th August 2010, 14:42

@Capsbackup: The latest feature with motion 'welcome screen' can take care of 1 (hidden) intro title, so for the time being you can use it.

OK, I will take a look. :)
Does my "wish list idea" of a custom menu template have any potential?

MrVideo

27th August 2010, 15:45

Have in mind that not all Panasonic players support multiAVCHD's 4.x menu in Blu-ray/AVCHD-relaxed modes. The firmware update from few days ago fixes it for BD60/80 (and probably 45/65/85) but no words for 30/35 models.

Correct. My friend only has the 30 and 60 models, so those are the only ones I can confirm.

Other models will have to be tested by other users.

MrVideo

27th August 2010, 15:47

I got a Pana BD35 until today.:D

There wasn't any new firmware posted for the BD30, which probably includes the BD35, so the problem still exists.

Doesn't mean there won't be, but as of a few days ago, there wasn't.

pio011

27th August 2010, 17:11

now the join selection window has two buttons:
[join with tsdemux] and [join with eac3to].
Dean

great!!!!!

Music Fan

27th August 2010, 18:36

There wasn't any new firmware posted for the BD30, which probably includes the BD35, so the problem still exists.

Doesn't mean there won't be, but as of a few days ago, there wasn't.
I had understood, but I guess that there will be a new firmware for the BD35 soon.

Ghitulescu

27th August 2010, 18:44

Maybe coupled with Cinavia, who knows....

MrVideo

27th August 2010, 21:47

I had understood, but I guess that there will be a new firmware for the BD35 soon.

Place your bets. The BD30/BD35/whatever might be on Panny's no longer supported list.

My 2 cents is that they won't release an update, be that right or wrong.

setarip_old

27th August 2010, 22:20

As alluded to in post #6539, if you use your standalone player for playing backups of commercial BluRay discs, you should be very careful in detrermining whether you should/have to install any firmware updates, as doing so MAY make future backups susceptible to "Cinavia" watermark protection.

I say "MAY" because it is not presently known whether "Cinavia" can be added to existing hardware via firmware updates or whetrher it requires modified/added hardware components...

deank

27th August 2010, 22:33

It certainly is possible - Playstation3, which has only 256MB RAM was silently updated to support Cinavia...

deank

27th August 2010, 22:57

Does my "wish list idea" of a custom menu template have any potential?

It is very hard to implement :( It is something I'm thinking for some time - nested structure / folders / categories. It is almost the same as what you wish.

Still, you can use [x] Create single-title menu pages option with motion welcome screen. It will show your 'movie title' only in the menu. Of course scrolling left/right (or up/down) will show the 'extras' as additional menu pages.

setarip_old

28th August 2010, 01:19

@deank

Hi!It certainly is possible - Playstation3, which has only 256MB RAM was silently updated to support Cinavia... Although your statement is correct, I believe you'll find that since the PS3 is a "hybrid" piece of hardware, the knowledgable folks have not determined that what is possible to do with/to a PS3 can also be done with/to a pure standalone BluRay player...

alluringreality

28th August 2010, 02:17

I tried to reauthor the HDMV from http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12373254#post12373254 (Encore CS4 Blu-ray) to AVCHD with multiAVCHD. I burned the output from the strict AVCHD option to disc. When I played the disc with PowerDVD 10 I got a black screen for the menu. We had this same issue with PowerDVD playback when we tried to use AVCHD-Patcher to get the HDMV to be identified as AVCHD, although PowerDVD plays menus from AVCHD discs produced by commercial software without issue. Do other people get menus that display correctly when playing AVCHD discs from multiAVCHD on PowerDVD? Any ideas on this or is it a known issue?

setarip_old

28th August 2010, 08:02

@deank

A llittle refresher course please, regarding conversion to anaglyph 3D - Can the video source material be simple left/right stereoscopic pairs, or is there something special about the "new" 3D?

deank

28th August 2010, 09:16

@alluringreality: I know of no such issue. Try [Blu-ray] or [AVCHD relaxed] modes.

@setarip: 3D conversions work only for 3D Blu-ray disc titles. If you wish you can create a simple avisynth script to create anaglyph from 2 left+right files and load it in multiAVCHD.

setarip_old

28th August 2010, 10:05

@deank 3D conversions work only for 3D Blu-ray disc titlesI'm aware of that - but I was under the impression that 3D BluRays were comprised of left/right stereoscopic video.

I know nothing about Avisynth scripting. I just wanted the satisfaction of (I thought) finding a few stereoscopic trailers (which I did), loading them into my favorite ever-blossoming tool - and watch it churn out an anaglyph version.

As far as actual "new 3D" BluRays (not the Panasonic demo), I haven't been able to locate any yet.

Oh well...

deank

28th August 2010, 11:25

Open notepad and paste:

allR=directshowsource("c:\path_to_right_file.mkv")
allL=directshowsource("c:\path_to_left__file.mkv")

movieR=allR.ConvertToRGB32
rED=allL.ConvertToYV12.tweak(bright=-8, sat=0, cont=0.8).blur(1.56).ConvertToRGB32
bLUE=showBlue(movieR)
gREEN=showGreen(movieR)

mergeRGB(rED, gREEN, bLUE).ConvertToYV12

Replace the paths with those to your left and right files. Save as .avs file and import it in multiAVCHD.

Dean

alluringreality

28th August 2010, 16:55

@alluringreality: I know of no such issue. Try [Blu-ray] or [AVCHD relaxed] modes.

I went ahead and tried these as suggested. All three were burned to DVD media, and they all play the same in PowerDVD Ultra. The menu shows as a black screen, and only the outline for the active selection can be seen.

To see if this was possibly related to the Encore authoring I thought I would test a commercial Blu-ray. I reauthored Austin Powers 1 and trimmed the movie so that it would fit on DVD. I set the output to AVCHD strict and burned to DVD media. PowerDVD would not play the disc. The disc would play on my Sony standalone player, but it will play a lot of modified discs that other players have issue with.

I also tried authoring a couple .264 files and using the multiAVCHD menu. PowerDVD plays the AVCHD strict disc for about a second and then it goes to a green screen.

My computer passes multiTest. I'm running the lastest PowerDVD 10 Ultra version. This issue appears to be similar to the problem with AVCHD-Patcher discs reported for both PowerDVD 8 & 9 Ultra. We also received reports of issues with the AVCHD-Patcher modifications on a couple Samsung players, but I don't currently have access to those players to see if the issues also show up in the multiAVCHD output. It is possible to get PowerDVD to play an image of the discs mounted by Virtual CloneDrive, but it just seems like something may not be fully-compliant considering PowerDVD plays AVCHD discs from commercial authoring software.

Note: The AVCHD from the prior link will play in PowerDVD from DVD media and was created by the first version of TotalMedia Extreme.