multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD [Archive] - Page 5

deank

8th January 2010, 21:42

Build 725:

* BLU-RAY DISC RE-AUTHOR MODE
* Some fixes and a lot of speed improvements

*****

About re-author mode check crl2007's guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151925) and read the notes below:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_rea724-1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_rea724-2.jpg

1) Drag/Load a Blu-ray disc folder and answer to the prompt with OK to enter "Blu-ray re-author mode".
2) Wait for the initial scan to complete (a good idea is to 'save' the project once the scan is done - this way you won't have to wait the next time you want to load the folder)
3) Open "Properties" of one of the playlists
4) Re-author your disc by doing at least one of the following:

* Blank 'fbi warnings', extras, intros, etc... (do not change the trim_end value of 1.033 - it has special meaning for blanking)
* Add/remove tracks to your main movie or features
* Cut/Trim END of a feature/main movie
* Transcode main movie or a feature

In Re-author mode it all depends on the changes you will make. In other words - if you don't change anything you will get 1:1 copy of your original blu-ray disc.

You cannot add titles (files, playlists, etc) or remove existing playlists in re-author mode. Once in this mode you can't go back to normal authoring mode and you'll need to restart multiAVCHD.

When you browse the playlists (Compilation box) you will see information if one is marked for blanking, if it contains IGS menu as a main playitem [menu MP], or as a subpath [menu SP]. In the "Playlist" tab you should see information about main playitems, sub playitems and sub-path types and their corresponding files (for IGS and TextST).

You should not blank playlists which contain menu links, but if such a playlist is the main movie or a feature then you can 'remux' it. It will be marked as [ remux ] once you change any of its properties (i.e. cut end or add/remove/reorder tracks or transcode a playlist). An alternative way to blank a playlist, which is linked to a menu or textST subtitle m2ts, is to remux 1 second of it - enter 1 as trim-end. Be careful what you blank, because you may break the main menu.

Once you're done, close "Title properties", click "START" and choose:

* PLAYSTATION 3
* AVCHD disc (for DVD or BD-R)
* Blu-ray

In PS3 mode you'll get output suitable for USB HDD - it means that multiAVCHD will remux all playlists which contain playitems (m2ts) files larger than 4GB.

In AVCHD mode you will get output suitable for burning to DVD or BD-R disc. You may need to remove some folders, depending on your player specific requirements.

In Blu-ray mode you will get the same as AVCHD but with the original index.bdmv file.

Introducing such feature to multiAVCHD aims mainly to make Blu-ray discs playable in Playstation3 using USB HDD (Blu-ray disc to USB HDD) without loosing any features (except the pop-up menu, which is not supported while playing from USB [edit Feb 16th - POP-UP menu works in PS3 when using the [] VIEW button]. If the disc is BD-J authored, Playstation 3 will not play the USB output. If you use Blu-ray mode and burn to BD-R/RE it will work in your Playstation 3.

multiAVCHD's re-author feature is in no way replacement of or can be compared to BD-Rebuilder's features and reliability, and is also not added with an idea for competition. It should be possible to use multiAVCHD re-authored output with BD-Rebuilder, but if you do and have problems state that you used a re-authored copy, but not the original (which would usually mean a problem within multiAVCHD, but not BD-Rebuilder).

Should your re-authored copy is bigger than 25GB BD-R disc you will need to transcode the main movie or blank some audio tracks. Blanking audio can save you few GB. Transcoding has the same functions as in normal authoring mode. Bitrate calculations in re-author mode may not be correct (showing higher MB/GB requirements). Transcoding to lower resolution will not resize internal PGS subtitles to the new resolution.

In re-author mode features as PIP (Picture-in-Picture) are not supported (yet). Blu-ray titles, featuring alternate endings with branched playlists may or may not work as expected (either one branch will work or you will get huge oversize, having both/all versions in the final compilation). I don't have such titles to test with. TextST (subtitles) should work.

In re-author mode you can add/remove audio tracks, convert HD audio to AC3 or use the SD core of HD streams (to save space). You can add SRT/SUB/SUP/ASS/SSA subtitles, too.

Always make sure you have enough free space and that you are using NTFS partitions for TEMP and destination folders (except when using PS3 mode - then destination can be FAT32).

That's about it.

Have in mind that I coded this feature in just few days, so it may not work exactly as expected, but please test it with your Blu-ray titles and get back to me with the results.

Yours as always,
Dean :)

rotty

9th January 2010, 00:00

Yes, whenever multiAVCHD transcodes a file it does it by 4.0 constraints (no slices).

Hi Dean

Tried b725 but the second pass in "2 pass HQ" mode still takes 4 times longer than b717 (same settings)

deank

9th January 2010, 00:19

I can't do anything about it. The newer builds introduced P frame prediction (weithgp)... If you find another patched build that works faster - let me know. You can replace the one used with a newer one (but not older without the --weightp support).

deank

9th January 2010, 02:22

Although I was a bit distracted with this blu-ray re-author thing I have to let you know that the animated menu is on its way.

There is a small hitch which slows things down (menu navigation won't appear after a title is played or a menu-call is performed from within a title) but I guess I'll get over it.

Some of the features ready:

* use BG audio file
* use picture file + BG audio file
* use video only file
* use video only file + BG audio file
* use video + audio file
* random video excerpts from current title + no audio (with fade transitions) (default for motion menu)
* random video excerpts from current title + BG audio file (with fade transitions)
* custom video excerpts from current title + no audio (with or without fade transitions)
* custom video excerpts from current title + BG audio file (with or without fade transitions)

Each menu/title page can be configured independently from other menu pages or user can use a default (all static or all motion or mixed). It means that you can have few custom (1 static, 1 with BG audio, 1 with motion video and no sound, 1 with motion video+sound, or any mix of these).

In all cases video re-encoding is required to get the menu in 1920x1080@23.976 (or @25fps for PAL). It is slow and requires space :) (~5 to ~20MB per menu page, depending on the duration and audio). Menu page animation is looped and 15-60 seconds should be quite enough (60 seconds may occupy about 20-25MB and may take couple of minutes to be encoded to h.264 with x264).

Here is a small preview of the default one (random excerpts with fade transition effects + no audio + using the poster image as overlay). (http://rapidshare.com/files/332677369/multiAVCHD_motion_preview.m2ts) (3.8MB m2ts)

It is a bit hard to figure a GUI outlook for all that, but I'll get there, too.

I'll keep you posted.

Dean

drelin

9th January 2010, 03:52

Great new :)

A little question :

With animated Menu features, the next bulid will propose custom menu with audio and subtitle tracks selection ?

hoju3508

9th January 2010, 11:25

Is it possible to display more than 12 chapters? Sorry if this has been asked before.

deank

9th January 2010, 11:29

With animated Menu features, the next bulid will propose custom menu with audio and subtitle tracks selection ?

No, not yet... I'm still thinking of how to implement it.

Is it possible to display more than 12 chapters?

No, not at the moment. It is possible to display more than 12, but not possible to navigate to them in the menu.

rotty

9th January 2010, 12:44

rotty

9th January 2010, 13:52

deank

9th January 2010, 14:21

rotty

9th January 2010, 16:32

Re-author mode does not require x264 or transcoding (unless you want to transcode a feature or the main movie). As I asked - please find a build that works faster and let me know. Until then I can't do anything.

Hi Dean

Thanks. I wonder what version of x264 BD Rebuilder uses, have just tried it and fast transcode. Dont know how player compatibe it is, have not burned disc yet.

Last time I tried BD Rebuilder, reverse play would not work, not that I need it to do that but must mean some key info was missing.

deank

9th January 2010, 17:36

You can find out with x264.exe --version

I think it uses patched 1360 (dec 7th 2009) and patched 1195 (aug 9th 2009)...

multiAVCHD uses patched 1153 (may 24th 2009) and patched 1336 (nov 12th 2009).

hoju3508

9th January 2010, 19:12

Hi Dean,

Is it possible to add an option to delay taking a snapshot of the image used for the menu? With a movie like Inglourious Basterds most of chapter changes occur during a fade-to-black scene so that I'm getting a lot of black images.

This delay could be 30 sec to 1 min after the chapter changes.

:thanks: for your consideration.

-Hoju

deank

9th January 2010, 19:45

No, I can't, but you can add chapters at any point and LINK a menu thumbnail to it.

There is a tab "Menu thumbnails". If you select one of the 12 menu thumbnails and one chapter from the box in the top right - you can link both.

Just add some more chapters and you will get what you need :) Or remove those with blank frames and add new in their place (or use the chapter editor to enter different times). There are so many ways to do what you want.

b66pak

9th January 2010, 21:06

@deank you use two versions of tsmuxer...what is the reason?
_

deank

9th January 2010, 21:38

Both versions are used for different things. And the older one is used for a retry attempt if the latest fails.

deank

10th January 2010, 14:39

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deank

11th January 2010, 02:12

Build 725+

* Option to [x] Use long GOP if possible in "Transcode" window (useful for bitrates <14500kbps)
* Imported chapters from MKV files now have milliseconds (00:00:00.000)

* Fixes for "Re-author" mode:
* if a playlist/feature is transcoded, new codec/resolution/framerate are properly applied to all playlists, which use/link to m2ts file from the transcoded playlist
* playlist flags are properly set for remuxed/transcoded playlists

Dean

claymic

12th January 2010, 14:44

Hi Dean
When you say Re-author mode does not require x264 or transcoding its valid only for blu-ray write ?, but when i put them for generation a avchd for playing in my oppo, if the movie have a resolution like 1920 x 800, they will play fine ? I sorry if i have been stupid, but i dont understand how this is possible, if i generate a avchd using a mkv file (1920x800) they will not be played.
I sorry for my bad english.
Clayton
About the email you sent me, suggesting aviaddxsub, i try and work fine in my oppo, but the center the subtitle in my oppo was 650 with resolution (1280x720 for subititles) and movie 1920x1080

Music Fan

12th January 2010, 15:00

If you use this resolution (1920.800), it's not a file taken directly from a Blu-Ray, thus it's not a re-author mode in this case.

deank

12th January 2010, 16:14

@claymic: Blu-ray disc re-author mode is to be used with original blu-ray rips from your HDD.

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Build 726:

* Fix for re-author mode: audio and subtitle (PGS) order is now properly set in the playlist files when titles are remuxed/transcoded. This improves/fixes original Blu-ray disc menu functionality for subtitles/audio selection/change.

Thanks to crl2007 for the tests.

deank

12th January 2010, 18:06

And again about the video/animated menu in multiAVCHD. Here is a preview of a real (40 seconds) auto-generated trailer-like motion menu while using Ghost Rider full-movie backup:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_tla.jpg

(click to download video-menu m2ts file 9MB) (http://rapidshare.com/files/334238833/multiAVCHD_trailer_like.m2ts)

Options like saturation, contrast and brightness will be available + option to animate chapter thumbnails and title thumbnail. It takes about 3 to 5 minutes on a relatively fast machine to generate 30-40 seconds of 1920x1080i@29.97fps motion menu, so it is not that bad. Option to get motion will have XMB, Slide and Carousel menu styles.

Dean

drelin

13th January 2010, 04:55

deank

14th January 2010, 13:57

Latest small update:

* User can add external subtitles for audio titles (audioBD / audioAVCHD)
* Blanking in re-author mode is re-written to use black video and not to cut the original m2ts files

Dean

Rudy A-Traxx

14th January 2010, 17:14

You mean that for a BD-AUDIO we could have, for example, the title of the song that appears as a subtitle or the lyrics that appears during a song ?

deank

14th January 2010, 17:43

Yes. Until now multiAVCHD would generate automatically subtitles if there was a .cue file attached with song names or other information.

Now users can use their own subtitles (be it song titles or lyrics or anything). Auto-generated subtitle is added as a last track. Since all subtitle formats are supported, one can generate karaoke styled subtitles (from ssa/ass)... or use SUP subtitles generated with easySUP...

deank

14th January 2010, 18:03

But,why the menu generated is at 1080i@29,97fps and not 1080p@23,97fps ?
It is a specific limitation ?
If I create a H264 video for menu (in external video editor), the encoding step is optional ?

1080i is both compatible with FullHD and HD-Ready equipment without the need for downcoverting the signal. Menu navigation is encoded in 60i so I guess it will be a requirement to have video either in 1080p@29.970 or 1080i@59.94...

If you create .m2ts file in another application within these constraints - it won't be necessary to reencode it.

rotty

14th January 2010, 21:41

Hi Dean

I have a big problem, I have "Yellowstone" blu ray, its a BBC doucu. Strangley, its 1920 1080 interlaced at 29.97 (59.94) strange for UK market anyway and when shown on UK tv was of course 1920 1080 i 25 (50).

The problem I have is this. If I say make a 5 second test portion and use multiAVCHD to trasncode it (2 pass HQ) then pass 1 lasts forever. It has not crashed, I have disc action and CPU fan (laptop) is running hard, so its doing something.
If I use BD Rebuilder then no problem.

Could it be something to do with the fact its interlaced material, ???

Unfortunatley I cant email you even this test portion as its too large (16meg) for my email to allow.

deank

14th January 2010, 21:59

You can enable [x] Show spawned tools and run it again.

I got the same problems 2 days ago with an encode. x264 would just sit at 10% and will do nothing... no crash no progress...

rotty

14th January 2010, 22:04

You can enable [x] Show spawned tools and run it again.

I got the same problems 2 days ago with an encode. x264 would just sit at 10% and will do nothing... no crash no progress...

Hi Dean

What is [x] Show spawned tools

How do I run it, and what do I do with it. Is it a debugging tool or a fixer.

By the way, forgot to say, this happens every time I try this particular BD. I suppose BD Rebuilder is using different x264

Thanks in advance Dean

deank

15th January 2010, 10:50

It is an option in SETTINGS tab. Enable it and you will see x264 window while it is encoding, so you'll know what is going on.

deank

15th January 2010, 13:26

A small addition to XMB menu, suggested by Capsbackup:

Option to stack chapter thumbnails horizontally. Here is what happens with values of -1150 / 890 for chapters offset and 47 / -30 for main title offset and the new option in Menu/XMB [x] Stack thumbs horizontally...

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_xmb_stack2.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_XMB_stackH.jpg

The 12th chapter goes a bit off-screen, but it is not that bad.

For one-title projects values of -395 / 300 for main title offset will produce:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_stack1t.jpg

Also in build 727 - fixed few things for re-author mode and for saved projects.

Dean

drelin

15th January 2010, 15:21

Just a suggestion :

If you create the chapter thumbnails between the 2sd chapter (the 1st at 00:00:00 is not needed), you can obtain 11 chapter thumbnails without last thumbnail cropped ?

deank

15th January 2010, 15:23

Yes, you can and it will look better. It will also keep you away from overscan problems. There is a LINK button to select which chapter to appear as thumbnail and you can remove the 12th, then you will get 11 chapter thumbs of your choice.

Or I can try to reduce thumbs width by 2 pixels and the 12th will fit in :)

deank

15th January 2010, 16:53

Ok.. now all 12 chapters fit... You may need to update manually with multiUPDATE.exe if not prompted.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_stack2t.jpg

Recommended values for multi-titled menu:

XMB thumbnails offset: -1150 / 880
XMB main title offset: -7 / -50

Dean

Capsbackup

15th January 2010, 17:25

Thank you very much deank, another nice addition.
Not trying to stretch my luck, but is it possible to have the title thumbnails display horizontal at the top or bottom of the screen if the user selects not to display the chapter thumbnails?
On my brief testing, I was able to move the title thumbnails to the left or right of center screen, but the title thumbnails still scroll vertically. Of course I had to disable chapter thumbnails since they were off the screen anyway. Basically, to look like your chapter thumbnails picture only the larger size title thumbnail size.
Example Picture:

deank

15th January 2010, 17:29

It is already implemented in Slide and Carousel menu styles. There is no option to move them up or down, but it is exactly what you seem to need. :)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SL1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/_multiAVCHD_CM3.jpg

Capsbackup

15th January 2010, 17:37

deank

15th January 2010, 17:42

I'm using my server for picture links. I'll wait to see the attachment, but it will be hard to modify XMB to have horizontal navigation (that's why slide/car are available)...

In XMB you can disable all title thumbnails and disable their info and use a custom background. This way you can get something like drelin's menus (XMB).

The only thing left from multiAVCHD's XMB menu :) will be the navigation arrow to play the title (or chapters, if enabled). You need to create your custom background in a way so the navigation arrow fits your image (like the PLAY button in the next picture).

A special combination of switches and custom background will let you create menus like drelin's:

Author TAB:
[x] XMB menu

Menu/General/XMB TABs:

[-] Show build and date in footer (unchecked)
[-] Create chapter thumbnails (unchecked)
[-] Grayscale title backgrounds (unchecked)
[x] Do not create title thumbnails (checked)
[x] Do not show title names (checked)
[x] Do not show extended information (checked)

* Transparency: 100% (move the slider to the far right)
* Remove Headline, Footer and Smart message texts.

Title properties:
* Set your special background as POSTER image for each title

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/xmb-SM.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_promo_XMB2.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_promo_XMB1.jpg

deank

15th January 2010, 20:14

Sorry for these updates today, but they were kind of important...

The latest is related to re-author mode: In rare occasions playlists with multi-angle clips / sub-paths were not processed correctly, leaving some files out of the compilation.

It should be okay now.

deank

16th January 2010, 16:35

Build 728:

[x] Do not show duration (SLI/CAR) option in Menu Tab - video duration stamp won't be displayed in title thumbnails

[x] Do not create title thumbnails option in XMB tab is now applied to XMB, Slide and Carousel menu styles.

[x] Do not show title names option in XMB tab is now applied to XMB, Slide and Carousel menu styles.

XMB main title offset changed to Main title offset in XMB sub-tab in Menu tab. Vertical offset is now applied to Slide and Carousel menu styles, too.

These options allow users to create semi-custom menu outlook using custom background with Slide and Carousel menu styles, too. Until now it was possible only for XMB menu.

http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/multiAVCHD_SLI_y_offset.jpg http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/multiAVCHD_CAR_y_offset.jpg

Dean

deank

16th January 2010, 17:05

When/if my picture attachment gets approved, it will be more obvious. ( By the way, how do you get your picts displayed so fast? )
I did try these options, but they hide/overlap my custom menu picture.

I think with Slide and Carousel you can now get the desired result. Do not use chapters and use vertical offset of 340 pixels for Slide or Carousel menu.

I'll try to make verticall offset for chapter thumbnails to work for Slide and Carousel, too, so the user can move them up and down on the screen - like in your case to have title thumbs at the bottom and chapter thumbs at the top.

Capsbackup

16th January 2010, 17:15

I will take a look at the newest version this weekend, hopefully, if I can get some free time. ( weekends never have enough time for hobbies :p )
Looks like the vertical offset could be good for the type of custom menu picture I mentioned previously ( which I see my attachment was approved ).
I do prefer the thumbnail size/style of the XMB menu, but will take a look at slide and carousel ones as well.
I have all the older James Bond movies ( 20+ ) that I recorded off my Comcast HD DVR from Encore HD, 1080i, 29.97fps that I am hoping to start backing up to BD-R. I haven't decided if I am going to reencode to BD-5 size and convert them to 1080P, 23.976fps, or leave them as is ( approx. 11 - 13 GB per movie ). Perhaps I will try them as is, but I am not sure how the interlaced TV broadcast will turn out, and I may only get 1 to 2 movies per BD-R, verse 4 if I reencode to closer to BD-5 size. But with your program, I am much closer to getting started on this project than I have been!:)

chompy

17th January 2010, 10:35

Hi deank,

very nice program, and a newbee with it, but it seems quite powerful... Just one question: In bluray reauthor mode, is there any way to quickly remove unwanted audio streams without having to do it separately in each mt2s? (UP spanish edition has the movie splitted in multiple m2ts files and it takes forever to remove them).

Greetings

deank

17th January 2010, 10:41

In re-author mode you're editing the playlists, not the individual m2ts files, but still - there is no way to remove audio faster than this... And I'd suggest to use [blank] audio button, instead of removing them.

chompy

17th January 2010, 11:39

OK, thanks for the tip.

NexGen76

17th January 2010, 20:46

Okay I have a non standard resolution Blu-Ray thats 1920*800 all I'm doing is adding the Black bars using multiavchd,Also using the same output size do i need to be concern about output quality...I have it set on one pass (turbo).Thxs

deank

17th January 2010, 20:59

Blu-ray does not come in non standard resolutions like the one you quoted, so there is nothing to discuss. If it is a non-compliant resolution-wise file, then - yes, you have nothing to worry about (although other *slower* profiles may produce different quality). I'm using 'turbo' for 99% of my tests and encodes and the quality is good.

drelin

18th January 2010, 18:40

According with new features for chapters thumbnails (Stack chapter thumbs horizontally) in build 728, I ask a question :
With chapters thumbnails creation, a label "Chapter selection (Title 1/1)" is created.
Any way to no show this label line (replace by blank label) ?

deank

18th January 2010, 18:54

It's been always possible not to use the lables if you use a language file (different from English (original)). There are few lines in it for XMB, just edit them:

#
# XMB menu labels
#
XMB;0;Video;Video:
XMB;0;Audio;Audio:
XMB;0;Subs;Subtitles:
XMB;0;Title;Title
XMB;0;ChapS;Chapter selection
XMB;0;Dur;Duration:
XMB;0;Track;track
XMB;0;Trax;tracks
XMB;0;Hour;h
XMB;0;Min;m
XMB;0;Sec;s
#
#

But still there is no way to remove the text unless you don't use chapters. I'm preparing something so, just wait for the next major release.

drelin

19th January 2010, 10:45

Thank for the answer, I understand now why with my several tests this label was not removed correctly.
Each time I've edited the language file with remove "chapter selection" in "XMB;0;Chaps;Chapter selection" line the label appear yet and yet :)

I wait the next major release for this and for others features :)
Thank a lot.

Ryu77

19th January 2010, 10:55

Hello Dean,

I am hoping you can help with a little problem.

I am compiling a project with 37 titles and can not see a preview in the properties window from main media screen. Prior to updating, I could see the preview with no problem.

I need this as I want to be able to select which frame to select as the "poster" for the thumbnail for each title.

Would you know what could be causing this?

deank

19th January 2010, 10:59

Ryu77

19th January 2010, 11:08

I didn't change anything with the preview. It depends on your configuration of avisynth, haali and ffdshow. Try to re-install haali with mpeg-ts and mpeg-ps options enabled.

Make sure to use these versions: download links (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/downloads)

Ahhh... Yes. Thank you.

I just realised that it is dependant on AVIsynth to load the correct filters. I moved my plugins and that's what was causing the problem. I moved them back and all is good now.

deank

19th January 2010, 16:34

A piece of good news :)

I managed to get the motion menu working in Nero, TMT and Playstation3, which would probably mean that it will work elsewhere.

As a bonus with the animated menu come a lot of new things like options for:

* sub-menu pages for audio / subtitle selection

* scrolling titles via pages with title-thumbs menu (useful for compilations with more than 15 titles where you need to browse fast to the desired title menu)

* navigation arrows are replaced by semi-transparent box, which covers the button area

* unlimited number of chapter thumbnails (or at least for 48 chapter thumbs in the RC build)

:) Dean

drelin

19th January 2010, 18:14

Just say WHAOU !!

I never think that all features will comes together and so quickly.
Thank for all.

Another donation for the hard work is plenty justified. :)

Ryu77

20th January 2010, 09:33

Hello Dean,

Is there a way to change the colour of the text for the footer message on the menu screen?

MB2

20th January 2010, 18:01

Hi there, just downloaded this program, had a little play.

Basically i want to convert about 30 odd HD-DVDs to Blu-Ray 25gb disc.
They can be movie only discs with randomly placed chapters.

Ive tried loading Anchorman, just as .evo so 2 files named FEATURE1.evo and FEATURE2.evo - the soundtrack is Dolby Digital PLUS

Ive tried outputting to Blu-Ray disc and it splits the first FEATURE1.evo to 3 files, 2 that are 4gb each, and 1 that is about 500mb. BUT with NO AUDIO. It then hangs processing FEATURE2.evo - however, even without audio, is this going to create another playlist, and NOT play the whole film in one go?

Does anyone have a step by step guide for HD-DVD to Blu-Ray using this program??
Also opening the first FEATURE1.evo file that has been created, with TSremux is says frame rate is 29.97 not 24fps?!!

Just tried it again, but with just one file, FEATURE1.evo - got this message in the log. eac3to refused to convert audio!

Many THANKS!! :)

setarip_old

20th January 2010, 22:18

@MB2

Hi!Does anyone have a step by step guide for HD-DVD to Blu-Ray using this program??It's been my experience that although the program will accept .EVOs for input, it will not process them.

The simplest approach I've found is to first drop the two (already decrypted) "Feature" .EVOs into tsMuxeR (use the "Join" button for the second .EVO, NOT the "Add" button") - and then select "BluRay".

If you then need to do any additional processing, load the newly created BluRay "packages" into multiAVCHD...

deank

21st January 2010, 00:02

DD+ is not supported and multiAVCHD does not support HD-DVD to Blu-ray.

****

A request to all who would like to help for motion-menu to become a fact (and a feature) in multiAVCHD:

Here are three archives (12MB each) for those who want to help with testing -

1) AVCHD folder ready to be copied to USB/SDHC for Playstation3 (http://rapidshare.com/files/338489533/PS_MOTION_MENU_AVCHD.rar)

2) BDMV folder ready to be burnt to a Blu-ray disc (http://rapidshare.com/files/338489532/BDP_MOTION_MENU_BDMV.rar)

3) BDMV folder ready to be burnt to a DVD disc (http://rapidshare.com/files/338491289/AVCHDP_MOTION_MENU_BDMV.rar)

Before going any further with developing the menu I need to know that it works in your players. Please test if you can navigate with your remote control to all chapter thumbnails + main title thumb + Setup + Title list + more.

Do not try to start/play anything - just try if the navigation works and shows properly.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_31RC_motion.jpg

Dean

p.s. Menu is now generated as progressive and shown as such (1920x1080 @ 23.976p). Although it looks like the XMB menu from the current version, the animated menu is rewritten to allow for more buttons (like setup for audio/subtitles, title list menu for fast browsing and 'next 12 chapters' button). This is a very early preview and the official build may introduce different layout and buttons/texts.

MB2

21st January 2010, 00:16

Ok. Thanks will try it out!

sidneysides

21st January 2010, 00:50

Never used this before - how did I miss it?
If I have 2 m2ts files that will fit easily on a BD-R, will multiAVCHD reencode them unneccessarily or will it keep the exact same quality?

deank

21st January 2010, 01:02

It won't reencode them and you'll have the original quality. :)

dfergie

21st January 2010, 01:49

2) BDMV folder ready to be burnt to a Blu-ray disc (http://rapidshare.com/files/338489532/BDP_MOTION_MENU_BDMV.rar)

Before going any further with developing the menu I need to know that it works in your players. Please test if you can navigate with your remote control to all chapter thumbnails + main title thumb + Setup + Title list + more.

Do not try to start/play anything - just try if the navigation works and shows properly.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_31RC_motion.jpg

Dean

p.s. Menu is now generated as progressive and shown as such (1920x1080 @ 23.976p). Although it looks like the XMB menu from the current version, the animated menu is completely rewritten from scratch to allow more buttons (like setup for audio/subtitles, title list menu for fast browsing and 'next 12 chapters' button).Burned to a BD RE, Setup works, Title list Jumps from the outer corners to in between the 2 middle when going side to side and skips the middle row when going up and down... here, motion looks fine though!

deank

21st January 2010, 01:57

drelin

21st January 2010, 03:34

Thanks... I asked "Do not try to start/play anything - just try if the navigation works and shows properly." Just to hi-light all possible buttons, not to click ok/start/play/select... only LEFT/RIGHT/UP/DOWN on your remote. If you activate a button you'll be redirected to other menu navigation pages, which are not ready and do nothing (like in your case if you selected title list button you would see 8 place-holders for title thumbs + 4 buttons below them, but no video to reflect the change).

What player did you test with?

I just make a test with AVCHD version on DVD.
- Playback = OK
- Nagivation buttons = OK (Left/Right/Up/Down)
- No problem for display buttons or motion menu (1080p@24fps) and loop playback = OK

Tested on Standalone Player Sony BDP-S350 (firmware 0.20) and Pioneer BDP-320 (firmware 3.34a)
=> Display on Sony LCD TV screen and Pioneer Plasma TV Screen
Tested on Computer with PowerDVD

N.B
Just a little remark, the button "more" is not displayed correctly on Pionner Plasma.Overscan's Pioneer crop the border and this button is out of the size displayed.
I think is necessary to make a "save area" for interactive buttons on for safety menu creation.

Later today (19h00), I will post the test result with BDMV burned on BD-R/RE and tested on same materials.

deank

21st January 2010, 03:37

Capsbackup

21st January 2010, 04:37

I tested the BDMV for Blu-Ray folder, all buttons work fine. Did not have a BD-RE available, so I burned to DVD+RW, and playback on TMT3 and PowerDVD 7.3 were good. Also tested on my Sony S360 and it worked fine there too.
I did not try the BDMV folder for DVD media, but I usually select Blu-Ray for all my AVCHD backups, and I have never had a problem with compatibility on my Sony BX1 or S360.
I will test it, and will let you know if there is a problem, which I doubt.

EDIT:
Tested AVCHD, no problems. All looks real good! :)

blubberbirne

21st January 2010, 11:01

i found a bug:

i can't change the subtitle language. it's always "und" and not possible to change

mplayer has big problems here:

[11:00:14] Preparing authoring information...
[11:00:14] Creating NTSC top menu.
[11:00:14] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[11:00:18] Creating menu backgrounds for 4 titles (XMB)...
[11:00:18] Trying to use Directshow first...
[11:00:18] Using user defined title image at 333 sec (00:05:33) for title #1!
[11:00:22] Directshow spliter/decoder failed! (TBG)
[11:00:23] Using 11 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[11:00:59] Error creating thumbnail for chapter 4 (title #1)! Retrying...
[11:01:00] Second try succeeded!
[11:01:19] Using user defined title image at 2092 sec (00:34:52) for title #2!
[11:01:23] Using 11 thumbnail/chapter links for title #2...
[11:01:43] Error creating thumbnail for chapter 7 (title #2)! Retrying...
[11:01:43] Second try succeeded!
[11:01:57] Using user defined title image at 413 sec (00:06:53) for title #3!
[11:02:01] Using 11 thumbnail/chapter links for title #3...
[11:02:17] Error creating thumbnail for chapter 9 (title #3)! Retrying...
[11:02:17] Second try succeeded!
[11:02:20] Error creating thumbnail for chapter 10 (title #3)! Retrying...
[11:02:20] Second try failed, too! Retrying...
[11:02:21] Third try succeeded!
[11:02:28] Error creating thumbnail for chapter 13 (title #3)! Retrying...
[11:02:28] Second try succeeded!
[11:02:29] Using user defined title image at 1357 sec (00:22:37) for title #4!
[11:02:33] Using 11 thumbnail/chapter links for title #4...
[11:02:51] Error creating thumbnail for chapter 10 (title #4)! Retrying...
[11:02:51] Second try succeeded!
[11:02:58] Creating video backgrounds for XMB menu completed.

deank

21st January 2010, 11:04

If you explain what you are doing then I may help you. And I don't think it is a bug. You change the language and click "change".

***

Are you processing a file or folder/playlist? Is it the 'subtitles' or 'external subtitles' that you can't change? Is the button 'change' enabled/clickable?
You can always name your subtitles to have the language id like: my_video.eng.srt

blubberbirne

21st January 2010, 11:06

If you explain what you are doing then I may help you. And I don't think it is a bug. You change the language and click "change".

i click change language, but it doesn't work. the button has no function here

drelin

21st January 2010, 11:24

Thanks drelin. I think it will work in any environment, but it is good to have it tested everywhere possible.

About the 'more' button: probably it won't be visible at all, but when user clicks "RIGHT" while on the last chapter, the menu will show the next page with 12 other chapters, so it won't be a problem. :) And the good thing is that now players won't switch between 1080i and 1080p... I guess I'll make the menu in 23.976 1080p as it seems to be compatible with PAL players, too (incl. PS3).

Dean

On Sony TV the motion menu is rendered in 1080p@60hz and
on Pioneer TV (compatible 24hz) is rendered in 1080p@24hz
without problems on both TV.

It is so early but for "one title menu" I think you will create a specific menu creation box on multiavchd.
I've few suggestions according to my previews post about it (few months ago).

Main Menu with 3 buttons : PLAY (movie) SETUP (to audio/subtitles menu access) and CHAPTERS (for 1st chapter Menu page access).
Offset values (x/y) for each button.

SETUP Menu :
2 group buttons = 1 for audio track selection and 1 for subtitles.
Horizontal or vetical alignment and offset values for each group.
1 button to return on Main menu.

CHAPTERS Menu.
Like new option on XMB style menu :
2 option for scroll horizontal alignment or vertical alignment
with offset values for thumbsnails chapters.
1 button on each page to return on Main menu.

For button styles :
the new style for thumbsnails is very good but for classic button (PLAY, SETUP, CHAPTER) is not easy to use with custom background : a "square" like style (for replace arrow) is better or other style if you can or think.

See samples pictures

Main menu :
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7076/mainmenustyle.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/mainmenustyle.jpg/)

Setup menu :
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1772/audiomenustyle.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/audiomenustyle.jpg/)

Chapter menu :
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1857/chaptersmenustyle.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/chaptersmenustyle.jpg/)

deank

21st January 2010, 12:50

It was good to point this out now, before the point-of-no-return :)
I added two presets with IGS buttons.

One uses small squares (like the green buttons in your menu) for all buttons (setup/title list/chapters) and smaller chapter-thumbs buttons (to be used for horizontally stacked chapters).

Dean

drelin

21st January 2010, 13:29

deank

21st January 2010, 15:01

Thank a lot. :)

I'm trying to add pop-up menu for all titles. It will not be customizable, but will at least provide faster access to [title list] menu, [chapter menu], main menu and skipping to prev/next title. Sadly, it will probably won't work with DVD/USB/SDHC output in Playstation3, but should work in all other players (and with BD-R/RE discs in PS3).

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_popupRCx.JPG

:) Dean

drelin

21st January 2010, 15:17

I'm trying to add pop-up menu for all titles. It will not be customizable, but will at least provide faster access to [title list] menu, [chapter menu], main menu and skipping to prev/next title. Sadly, it will probably won't work with DVD/USB/SDHC output in Playstation3, but should work in all other players (and with BD-R/RE discs in PS3).

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_popupRCx.JPG

:) Dean

Great
For the POPup menu, If you want, I can create a graphic chart.
Tell me the prorieties and type of elements (size X/Y positions, colors, png file with transparency...)

dfergie

21st January 2010, 18:29

deank

21st January 2010, 19:39

Thanks!

***

Since I'm rewriting multiAVCHD anyway, there will be a change with naming convention for m2ts/mpls/clpi files. I got a request from Sydon @ hdtv.pl forum to extend the overall m2ts file count supported in multiAVCHD. Untill now the upper limit was 1400 m2ts files.

In the next major version all multiAVCHD menu related files are moved above 80000.**** boundary so it will possible to have 252 titles, each containing the virtual maximum of 317 segments, reaching max# m2ts 79884.m2ts (MTS).

And some very important notes:

* There will be no more updates for multiAVCHD version 3.0.

* Build 728 (3.0.728) is the last one for v3.0 and there will be 729 which will disable the 'update check'.

* Version 3.1 will not include CLASSIC and THUMBNAIL menu styles. They are replaced by "TITLE LIST" menu page.

* It may not be possible to import projects from builds prior to 730 in version 3.1, but it will be possible to load existing compilations generated by any previous build.

Dean

drelin

21st January 2010, 22:57

I just make a test with AVCHD version on DVD.
- Playback = OK
- Nagivation buttons = OK (Left/Right/Up/Down)
- No problem for display buttons or motion menu (1080p@24fps) and loop playback = OK

Tested on Standalone Player Sony BDP-S350 (firmware 0.20) and Pioneer BDP-320 (firmware 3.34a)
=> Display on Sony LCD TV screen and Pioneer Plasma TV Screen
Tested on Computer with PowerDVD

Later today (19h00), I will post the test result with BDMV burned on BD-R/RE and tested on same materials.

Test with BDMV version on BD-R/RE on the same material.
Same result, All works fine. :)

deank

21st January 2010, 23:01

Thanks!

I think no more tests are needed with this sample. I'm finishing pop-up menu and will post a sample later. Since the pop-up is in 1080p it is possible that it won't show properly with non 1920x1080 titles (TMT shows the menu properly, but I have no idea how sap players will handle it).

Revivalist

22nd January 2010, 00:45

Quick question here if you guys don't mind . . .

Is it possible to remove a section of a movie in multiACVHD? In other words, if there is a scene in a movie that is objectionable, can it be removed? I know that it's possible to trim from the beginning and the end of the movie, but I don't see an option to remove a section in the middle of the movie.

One way I attempted to do this was by loading the original movie, tirmming off everything from the objectional content forward, and processing the movie as Part 1.

Then I loaded the original movie again, trimmed off the beginning all the way up to the end of the objectonal content, and then processed the movie again as Part 2.

After that, I took the two edited movies above (Part 1 and Part 2) and tried to join them in multiACHD. I thought the result would be getting rid of the objectional content.

However, unfortunately the resulting movie is blank for about a minute at the objectional part and then the rest of the movie plays at a fast rate with no audio (it' very strange.)

Any ideas how to solve this?

Thanks for any help!

deank

22nd January 2010, 02:06

multiAVCHD was not designed as an 'editor' program, so it is not possible to easily do what you need.

You could try not to join both parts but leave as separate titles - there should be no gap/blank video.

Revivalist

22nd January 2010, 05:12

Thanks Dean. I'll go with that solution. . . . Is there a way not to show one of the movies in the front menu? That would be a nice so that the menu only shows Part 1 with Part 2 not being visible and yet automatically playing immediately after Part 1.

As a side note, I wonder why there would be a problem joining two files like that. I even tried joining them using tsMuxer and TSSPlitter and got the same result.

setarip_old

22nd January 2010, 06:41

@deank

Hi!

Here's a little heads up regarding my attempts to add a permanent subtitle stream/track to an HD-DVD:

If the BluRay has previously been processed as an "HD-DVD Compliant" BluRay by either multiAVCHD or BD-RB (so that the multiAVCHD log states "Already HD-DVD Compliant" when it's loaded), it appears that the subtitle track/stream is NOT processed, despite the log statement to the contrary.

On the other hand, if the BluRay is initially processed without being "HD-DVD Compliant" and then processed as "HD-DVD Compliant" by multiAVCHD, the permanent subtitle track/stream is properly burned as part of the video.

Ryu77

22nd January 2010, 08:34

Hello again Dean,

Sorry to bother you with this pesky question but is this possible...

Hello Dean,

Is there a way to change the colour of the text for the footer message on the menu screen?

Also, a little bug I noticed is when adding titles with 2 channel LPCM. The Carousel Menu shows that some titles are 8 channel PCM or 1 channel PCM. I added multiple titles all with 2 channel PCM. I have no idea why a random pattern of different audio channels were shown in the information text but when played back they play a perfect 2 channel track.

Revivalist

22nd January 2010, 10:31

Also, a little bug I noticed is when adding titles with 2 channel LPCM. The Carousel Menu shows that some titles are 8 channel PCM or 1 channel PCM. I added multiple titles all with 2 channel PCM. I have no idea why a random pattern of different audio channels were shown in the information text but when played back they play a perfect 2 channel track.I think I can help with that question. I asked the same thing a while back . . . Here's Dean's reply: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1326908#post1326908 (I believe the last sentence in that post addresses your question.)

deank

22nd January 2010, 10:56

Thanks Dean. I'll go with that solution. . . . Is there a way not to show one of the movies in the front menu? That would be a nice so that the menu only shows Part 1 with Part 2 not being visible and yet automatically playing immediately after Part 1.

There is a checkbox in 'title properties' [x] Set as hidden title - it will make title invisible in the menu. Make sure you have [x] Play all (sequential playback) option in AUTHOR enabled, too.

@deank

Hi!

Here's a little heads up regarding my attempts to add a permanent subtitle stream/track to an HD-DVD:

If the BluRay has previously been processed as an "HD-DVD Compliant" BluRay by either multiAVCHD or BD-RB (so that the multiAVCHD log states "Already HD-DVD Compliant" when it's loaded), it appears that the subtitle track/stream is NOT processed, despite the log statement to the contrary.

On the other hand, if the BluRay is initially processed without being "HD-DVD Compliant" and then processed as "HD-DVD Compliant" by multiAVCHD, the permanent subtitle track/stream is properly burned as part of the video.

Subtitles can be hard-burned only while reencoding and I believe multiAVCHD does it. I'll take a look.

drelin

22nd January 2010, 11:20

I'm trying to add pop-up menu for all titles. It will not be customizable, but will at least provide faster access to [title list] menu, [chapter menu], main menu and skipping to prev/next title. Sadly, it will probably won't work with DVD/USB/SDHC output in Playstation3, but should work in all other players (and with BD-R/RE discs in PS3).

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_popupRCx.JPG

:) Dean

I've created a Popup Menu Graphic style if you are interessed.
See sample and download "png files" at the link :

Download : http://www.mediafire.com/file/zm0ydhcjjvh/Popup Menus.zip

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/222/popupmenu.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/popupmenu.jpg/)

deank

22nd January 2010, 12:04

Yep...

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_popupRC3.jpg

Programming the pop-up is really hard, because I have to do all the navigational stuff with a simple HEX editor byte by byte and it takes hours to program such a simple one with 5-6 buttons.

I guess this will be the one (at least for now). It has 90% opacity and I added a small shadow.

drelin

22nd January 2010, 12:40

Great sample :)

deank

22nd January 2010, 15:46

Ok... it is ready (the pop-up menu integration)...

[16:41:01] Verifying title...
[16:41:05] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[16:41:05] Preparing authoring information...

[16:41:05] Setting pop-up menu...
[16:41:05] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[16:41:05] *** [00001.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[16:41:05] *** [00002.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[16:41:05] *** [00003.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[16:41:05] Setting menu for 4 titles...
[16:41:05] There is no menu. Playback will end after title #4.
[16:41:05] Playback will start with title #1 (The Matrix 480p-uncropped).
[16:41:05] Setting menu properties...
[16:41:05] Selected TV system: [PAL]
[16:41:05] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[16:41:05] Completed.

This allows creation of compilations without menu, but only with a pop-up menu for navigation between titles.

Since it does not require encoding (x264/avisynth) users can get such compilations faster and without the need to install codecs, etc.

Here you can see better how it looks (with the shadow):

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_popupRC4.jpg

:) I'm so glad that it is really going to happen and get all the things I wanted from the beginning (pop-up, motion menu and more chapters + subs/audio subpage). Implementing the re-author mode helped a lot in understanding more of the sub-path mechanism functions and using them in multiAVCHD.

Last night I did a lot of tests and it seems that the largest # of a playlist name can be 01900.mpls (at least Playstation3 locks with higher values). This restricts the number of pages/playlists to be created when using 252 titles. Probably it will mean that the new version will be restricted to 48 chapters per title, which I believe is acceptable. Still, m2ts/clpi files can get as higher as 79999.m2ts/.clpi. multiAVCHD will use the range 80000.m2ts - 93032.m2ts and 00252.mpls - 01900.mpls (reserved). This is because in 'worst' case of 252 titles, additional 252 main menu pages + 32 title-list pages + 252*4 chapter-pages have to be created. I may try to code all in the movieobject.bdmv, instead of using playlists, but I'll let you all know later. There are not so many users that use so many titles :)

Dean

p.s. Forgot to mention that multiAVCHD download size is now decreased by 10-15% and all the optimizations will probably cause multiAVCHD to get smaller and faster.

Music Fan

22nd January 2010, 19:07

Very good work !

This allows creation of compilations without menu, but only with a pop-up menu for navigation between titles.
Good idea !
But if there is no menu, what happens when we click on chapters menu ? Is it like with Blu-Ray ; a page appears superposed on the video while playing, and it shows thumbnails corresponding to the chapters, and we can go on them and choose one ?

deank

22nd January 2010, 20:05

Let's do things in small steps. The changes are too many already and I'd like to add one thing at a time. Blu-ray authoring takes weeks and months with normal/payware software. multiAVCHD can't do it all for you in just few minutes.

And the simple answer to your question is that either the button will do nothing or won't appear at all.

Music Fan

22nd January 2010, 20:16

Ok, but in this case, I don't understand what you call title menu, chapters menu ... and everything we see on your pop-up bar if nothing happens when we click on that.

deank

22nd January 2010, 20:26

Is this a joke?

When you create a compilation with menu for each title and chapter pages and all... you'll have them appear when you click the pop-up button.

Music Fan

22nd January 2010, 20:39

Is this a joke?
I ask myself the same question !

Because you said that earlier ;
This allows creation of compilations without menu, but only with a pop-up menu for navigation between titles.
And now you talk about menus ...:confused:

deank

22nd January 2010, 20:54

Yes, 'browsing titles' like NEXT title and PREVIOUS title - things you can't do directly by pressing a button on your remote.

BeNooL

23rd January 2010, 12:12

Hi deank,

Thanks for you program wich is the only way I found to this day to convert without reencoding my DVDs to AVCHD for playback on an Oppo BDP-83 (using the PS3 profile works fine)

I'd like to report an issue with subtitle creation though.

I got this warning in multiAVCHD:
!!! BDSup2Sub reported: 2 warnings!
[11:29:57] !!! Last imported subpicture: (none imported)
[11:29:57] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[11:29:57] !!! Error converting subtitles! (java?)

I tried starting BDSup2Sub and it works fine so it eleminates an issue with Java VM.
After some investigation, it seems that the idx/sub output produced by mplayer isn't accepted by BDSup2Sub.

I reran the mplayer command used by MultiAVCHD to extract the sub stream and then loaded it manually in BDSup2Sub and it get this error message:
Illegal timestamp: 00:29# VobSub index file

Loading the idx file in a text editor, we can find the portion that BDSup2Sub doesn't like:
timestamp: 00:29:09:456, filepos: 000132800
timestamp: 00:29:12:433, filepos: 000133800
timestamp: 00:29# VobSub index file, v7 (do not modify this line!)
#
# Generated by MPlayer Sherpya-SVN-r29280-4.5.0
# See <URL:http://www.mplayerhq.hu/> for more information about MPlayer
# See <URL:http://vobsub.edensrising.com/> for more information about Vobsub

I'm not sure if this is an issue with mplayer or with BDSup2Sub but maybe you can do something about it :thanks:

deank

23rd January 2010, 12:18

If you remove the line will BDsup2sub accept the subtitle pair?

BeNooL

23rd January 2010, 14:53

This is going to sound weird but now I'm unable to get the same idx/sub output that I had before...
The idx file now doesn't have this comment mixed on timestamp line but still I get another error from BDSup2Sub:
ERROR: Invalid control buffer size

the same title and language sub extracted by VSrip is loading fine.

deank

23rd January 2010, 16:22

Then just use the extracted idx+sub from VSrip. :)

BeNooL

23rd January 2010, 19:50

exactly what I did thanks to the external sub feature. multiavchd wins ;)

chompy

24th January 2010, 10:41

Hi,

Am I missing something or re-author mode isn't correctly working for seamless branching movies (generally all movies containing playlists that point to more than one m2ts file)?... If you have a playlist referencing to more than a m2ts file, instead of re-authoring each m2ts file independently, MultiAVCHD merges all the m2ts in new big m2ts where the re-author is done.

That means that if you have the extended version and the theatrical version sharing the same m2ts files and just inserting additional m2ts files for the extended version, after re-authoring, you will end with two big files even bigger than the original bluray.

Is there any hope that this will be corrected in a future release?

Greetings

deank

24th January 2010, 12:19

Yes, you're missing something... (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1361598#post1361598) where you can read:
In re-author mode features as PIP (Picture-in-Picture) are not supported (yet). Blu-ray titles, featuring alternate endings with branched playlists may or may not work as expected (either one branch will work or you will get huge oversize, having both/all versions in the final compilation). I don't have such titles to test with. TextST (subtitles) should work.

***

Build 729:

* Last for version 3.0
* Updates are disabled
* x264 is replaced with one from build 717 to fix all troubles with transcoding
* uncropMKV is also updated
* either download the full package or update and download x264.zip from http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/x264.zip and put it in your \tools\ folder.
* Added FILE/PLAYLIST information in "Playlist" tab in Title properties

chompy

24th January 2010, 14:28

Blu-ray titles, featuring alternate endings with branched playlists may or may not work as expected (either one branch will work or you will get huge oversize, having both/all versions in the final compilation). I don't have such titles to test with.

I have some titles that come this way... Is there any way I could make a sample of them (lets say take a few seconds from each m2ts/playlist) so I could upload them and you could take a look at them?

laserfan

24th January 2010, 16:19

Blu-ray titles, featuring alternate endings with branched playlists may or may not work as expected (either one branch will work or you will get huge oversize, having both/all versions in the final compilation). I don't have such titles to test with.
Dunno if you're an X-Files fan, but X-Files2: I Want to Believe is one such BD disc. I thought it might be fun to blank the main title(s) which include Theatrical and Extended versions, but no-go w/RA mode.

The reason I tried was to make a disc with just the extras, which include an extensive timeline of the entire series.

deank

24th January 2010, 16:23

I have some titles that come this way... Is there any way I could make a sample of them (lets say take a few seconds from each m2ts/playlist) so I could upload them and you could take a look at them?

You can send me the entire structure without the files in STREAM/BDJO/JAR folders.

Dunno if you're an X-Files fan, but X-Files2: I Want to Believe is one such BD disc. I thought it might be fun ... but no-go w/RA mode.

What happened after you blanked the main movie? Can you post or send me a log?

***

A short note about motion menu development... multiAVCHD now creates menus and extracts chapter/title thumbs in completely different manner (about 10 to 50 times faster). Pop-up works for all titles and chapter thumbs will no longer appear on the main menu page.

Dean

chompy

24th January 2010, 17:30

You can send me the entire structure without the files in STREAM/BDJO/JAR folders.

Ok here you have some of them:

Gladiator (http://www.filemirrorupload.com/download.php?uid=1ZKVCQDW)
King Kong (http://www.filemirrorupload.com/download.php?uid=8UR6GI4B)
Up (http://www.filemirrorupload.com/download.php?uid=WPYTBM57)
Wall·E (http://www.filemirrorupload.com/download.php?uid=U7WKRE0E)

If you need something else, just ask for it :thanks:

Greetings

deank

25th January 2010, 01:09

Thanks.

***

And back to the next update add-ons... I was thinking today if it is a good idea to add 'named chapters' menu. Since chapter thumbnails are no longer displayed in the main menu page, it is kind of cool to add names to chapter thumbnails once user opens the 'Chapter menu'.

Also... an option to add a subtitle track, using chapter names (useful for concerts / songs)...

Dean

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I did a test with 252 titles few mins ago... What was previously known as 'menu' (now just static menu) takes about 25MB (130KB per title in 1080p, compared to 550KB in 1080i in ver 3.0) which is ~75% less (plus - it is created a lot faster).

Alba Ra

25th January 2010, 01:37

I hope no one's getting angry because this question may have been asked already - I've used search to no avail yet I am not willing to read 206 [!!!] pages.

I had a look at multiAVCHD's homepage (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/), turorial (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php) and, partially, the forum (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/), too.

Wouldn't it be easy to add (classic) DVD authoring ability as well? You have Blu-ray and AVCHD as output already...

Ginsonic

25th January 2010, 10:15

Hi Dean,

I have one further question regarding the "failure to write in file (...\multiAVCHD\cleannow.cmd)" problem. I do know, that Kaspersky scanner causes this problem, but in earlier versions I could overcome it with unchecking "Delete temp files". In actual version this option has no effect, cleannow command is always triggered regardless, if it is checked or not. Do You have any idea ?

Thanks !

deank

25th January 2010, 14:16

multiAVCHD creates like a dozen of .cmd files.. I wonder why this one triggers the error.. I may rename it to something else... and I'll check about 'del temp files'.

@Alba Ra: I have no knowledge about DVD authoring and there are so many programs which already have DVD support.

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Those of you who updated to 729 may start multiUPDATE.exe to get the latest (again). There was a small fix for 2pass transcoding and 'welcome screen' encoding.

Ginsonic

25th January 2010, 14:31

multiAVCHD creates like a dozen of .cmd files.. I wonder why this one triggers the error.. I may rename it to something else... and I'll check about 'del temp files'.

Thanks, Dean ! I already created an exception for multiAVCHD in Kaspersky but no luck yet.

Alba Ra

25th January 2010, 16:16

I know, it's just that none of them have the input capabilities as multiAVCHD. Added DVD authoring would turn your application into a full swiss-knife - that can do it all. Still, thanks for your reply and explanation. Much appreciated.

deank

25th January 2010, 18:18

Very good work !

Good idea !

I think it was you who asked for more precise preview seeking in "Title properties".

I managed to make it work, so now precision is 1ms (<< and >> buttons skip 250ms), chapters reflect time with milliseconds precision. It is much better than 'frames'.

It will be available once I publish the next major version.

***

Loading media and verifying titles now is 100% to 200% faster now.

mobie29

25th January 2010, 22:54

Dean, how can i send you my log file to review? I am having trouble with this.

derek

Music Fan

25th January 2010, 23:58

I think it was you who asked for more precise preview seeking in "Title properties".

I managed to make it work, so now precision is 1ms (<< and >> buttons skip 250ms), chapters reflect time with milliseconds precision. It is much better than 'frames'.

It will be available once I publish the next major version.

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Loading media and verifying titles now is 100% to 200% faster now.
Yes, it's me, thanks a lot !
When you say a precision of 1 ms, I guess you mean that we will see the timecode in milliseconds (like in Virtual Dub for AVI), but that we will advance frame by frame, and not ms by ms ?
Because I believe we can't advance ms by ms in a video, it's too short compared to the duration of a frame (16.6 ms in 60hz, 41.6 ms in 24 hz, ...), am I right ?
Actually, a search by keyframe is enough (less precise than a ms precision), but it's maybe more difficult to program than what you are going to propose.

CoolHandPuke

27th January 2010, 01:43

OK so I have a problem I am hoping you can help with.

This is not the first time this has happened so that is why I have come to ask about it.

I have an MKV file which is approx 6GB in size, inside the MKV with MultiAVCHD it shows as having 2 audio files(ac3 and DTS), and SUBS. after using the properties window to remove both the AC3 and the SUBS I then use the transcode button as default settings to adjust to compliant size. I click ok and then use the fit to all button to make the file size for DVD 5 (standard dvd).

the file converts fine and everything plays and looks as it should on the PC. However when I come to use IMGburn to burn the finished AVCHD it reports that it is too big (aprrox 100MB) and cannot be burned.

1. Why does this happen?

2. What can be done about it?

3. I always thought that DVD's could be overburned and that IMGburn has that feature, although I have tried to burn anyway and it always fails at the end resulting in a non usable disk.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

CHP

Guest

27th January 2010, 01:45

I have an MKV file which is approx 6GB in size Where did you get the MKV file?

setarip_old

28th January 2010, 02:28

@deank

(Since your email is apparently still problematic, I'll ask here)

Any progress on HD-DVD chaptering and subs?

CoolHandPuke

28th January 2010, 12:44

It was given to me by as friedn.

And before you question the file itself, I have played it back fine on pc and even the output m2ts from the avchd runs fine on pc, the only problem is for some reason the FIT TO ALL didnt work and its the second time it has happened, and admitedly with files larger than the 4.7gb norm.

Any ideas?

Guest

28th January 2010, 14:50

It was given to me by as friedn. That's a violation of our forum rules, so we cannot help you with that.

CoolHandPuke

28th January 2010, 14:56

Because my friend gave me his wedding video in hi def to convert to dvd its a break of the rules? Come on thats utter garbage

Guest

28th January 2010, 15:12

Because my friend gave me his wedding video in hi def to convert to dvd its a break of the rules? Come on thats utter garbage You earlier described the stream like this:

inside the MKV with MultiAVCHD it shows as having 2 audio files(ac3 and DTS), and SUBS That is NOT a wedding video. You are welcome to post a fragment of this M2TS to show that it is a wedding video, of course with the two tracks and subtitles. Followup to discuss the forum rules and/or moderation decisions go to PM, however. Do not continue that discussion here, per forum rules 3 and 17.

You also have an earlier post that you deleted that demonstrates that you are downloading copyrighted materials illegitimately. Now that you've had multiple warnings, immediate strikes will follow any repeated violation.

It's very simple, you cannot discuss this illegitimately obtained material here.

nekrosoft13

29th January 2010, 06:13

been having issues getting this program to run correctly, it keeps "freezing" after running the first file tsmuxer just keeps running in background doing nothing.

second issue

before encode

[23:03:11] *** Initiating video encoding:
[23:03:11] *** Original : 1280x720
[23:03:11] *** Crop : 0
[23:03:11] *** Resize : 1280x720 (No change)
[23:03:11] *** Uncrop to : 1280x720
[23:03:11] *** Sharpen : 0
[23:03:11] *** Bitrate : 3237 kbps
[23:03:11] *** Level : 4
[23:03:11] *** B-frames : 3
[23:03:11] *** Ref-frames: 3
[23:03:11] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[23:03:11] *** GOP size : 48 (keyframe min. each 4 frames)
[23:03:11] *** Quality : One pass (extreme)
[23:03:11] *** SAR : 1:1
[23:03:11] *** DAR : 1280x720
[23:03:11] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[23:03:11] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:42:35]

and after

23:03:11] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:42:35]
[23:09:20] *** Speed : 165.98 fps (elapsed: 00:06:09 - Realtime x 6.92)

[23:09:20] *** Transcoding successful!

[23:09:21] Detected frame reference count: 2 (max:9).
[23:09:21] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1280x720, fps=11.988, ref=2
[23:09:21] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4352)
[23:09:21] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[23:09:21] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[23:09:21] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

how and why excactly did it change to 11.988?

and after this step, it just freezes with tsmuxer running in background and nothing else is happening

nekrosoft13

29th January 2010, 06:14

Because my friend gave me his wedding video in hi def to convert to dvd its a break of the rules? Come on thats utter garbage

haha, hi-def camcorders don't record subtitles or DTS audio

Ghitulescu

29th January 2010, 16:22

haha, hi-def camcorders don't record subtitles or DTS audio

Some of them do record the date/time and TC as subtitles. DTS is not allowed by AVCHD specs.

rd001

29th January 2010, 17:22

Some of them do record the date/time and TC as subtitles. DTS is not allowed by AVCHD specs.

Do any camcorders generate MKV files? I know of H264 and MPEG2 streams in various formats, sometimes in AVI or Quicktime or M2T/M2TS/TS but I don't recall any in MKV containers.

deank

29th January 2010, 22:03

Should anyone has the nerve to download 170MB from rapidshare (sorry), here is what a base XMB looks like with 11 (really cool) titles menu with

* motion background
* motion active thumbnail, and
* background music

Playstation3 AVCHD (USB/SDHC/MS) (http://rapidshare.com/files/343073782/PS3_AVCHD_multiAVCHD_730RC.rar)

Blu-ray / AVCHD for DVD/BD-R/RE (http://rapidshare.com/files/343087282/BDP_BDMV_multiAVCHD_730RC.rar)

Although chapter pages are present, they are not displayed when you click 'chapters' - you can see a preview by playing 8***1 - 8***2.m2ts files.

Dean

p.s. BG audio is a 14 seconds clip, courtesy of Infected Mushrooms/Doors/Riders Of The Storm.

blubberbirne

29th January 2010, 23:26

great work. i will test it later with my bd-player (lg bd-370)

kabanero

30th January 2010, 02:16

Should anyone has the nerve to download 170MB from rapidshare (sorry), here is what a base XMB looks like with 11 (really cool) titles menu with

* motion background
* motion active thumbnail, and
* background music

Although chapter pages are present, they are not displayed when you click 'chapters' - you can see a preview by playing 8***1 - 8***2.m2ts files.

Dean

p.s. BG audio is a 14 seconds clip, courtesy of Infected Mushrooms/Doors/Riders Of The Storm.
Dean,

I downloaded your file and burned it to BD-RE. My JVC XV-BP1 recognized it as AVCHD disk. Looks cool. Couple things though.

When I navigate to the left to highlight PLAY button I don't see that blue square, it is in overscan area. I think it would be better if you put all those buttons in vertical direction:

PLAY
CHAPTERS
TITLES
SET UP

Also, footer is in overscan area. I can barely see top edges of those letters.

But overall it looks great!

Rodger

30th January 2010, 02:37

@kabanero
Your setup is faulty...that´s why you have overscan.
With Blu-Ray/AVCHD @ FullHD there is no such thing like Overscan!!!
Switch your TV to "SCAN" mode not 16:9 then you´ll be able to see the whole content of the AVCHD (picture).

@Dean
Well what can I tell you. Plays fine so long.
Any option called the Menu is replayed.

Do I press PLAY the Pioneer goes to hell ;)
Only thing that help here.....pull the plug :(

The Samsung by the way survives.....after a few "scratches" it plays the menu again. Everything is fine.

Pioneer BDP-LX52 (V3.41)
Samsung BD-P2500 (V2.5)

==============================================
Note of general concern:
Something must have changed again within the last builds of x264. My last encodes have gone unconform with blu-ray/avchd standart. I can´t play them on my Pioneer!!!
Changing the parameters (command line) for x264 gets me back to playable stuff.
With "Simple x264 Launcher" the following worked instandly: using preset fast with the addition of "--level 4.1 --nf --direct auto --vbv-bufsize 16000 --vbv-maxrate 16000 --subme 5 --no-mbtree --trellis 0 --me umh --nal-hrd --sar 1:1"
Of course this is just a sugguestion.

Basically I wanted to warn you, that you should check your results before deleting the sources, just like me here :mad:

kabanero

30th January 2010, 03:30

deank

30th January 2010, 05:06

When I navigate to the left to highlight PLAY button I don't see that blue square, it is in overscan area. I think it would be better if you put all those buttons in vertical direction:

PLAY
CHAPTERS
TITLES
SET UP

Also, footer is in overscan area. I can barely see top edges of those letters.

You can't have them placed vertically, because UP/DOWN scroll the title list. About the overscan - there are settings in multiAVCHD which let you move all (footer/header and title list) to a place where they won't be affected by the overscan.

Dean

Beatnut

30th January 2010, 16:25

Hi dean, Iam using your programm for about 3 months now, its working perfectly after a fresh windows 7 install, before that i had problems making thumbnails,

I have about 10 movies on my external harddrive for the ps3, but i want to add the full series of Lost, season 1 to 5, but when i add them i hae alot of titles to cycle through, is there any way to make a submenu, so i can have only 1 "Lost" title in my main menu?

Many thnx.

Diablo69_HUN

1st February 2010, 14:14

Hello there,
First of all, I want to say thank you deank for this great program! I'm very glad for the new BD reauthoring part, but - maybe I do something wrong - there is a problem. When remuxing is done, the new disc starts flawlessly on TotalMedia Theater, selecting audio, subtitle is okay, but chapters are not. I noticed this on every remuxed BDs. I use the correct mpls file and I don't modife that, so what could be the problem? Thanks for help!

laserfan

1st February 2010, 14:31

Explain first: what exactly are you seeing that is not right with chapters?

Ghitulescu

1st February 2010, 14:49

Sorry Roger, but my LCD HDTV has overscan and there is no way I can change that.

Try using HDMI instead of YUV (YPbPr) :)

Diablo69_HUN

1st February 2010, 18:12

Explain first: what exactly are you seeing that is not right with chapters?

It's simple: When I choose a chapter it takes me to an earlier one or restart the movie from the start of it.

deank

1st February 2010, 21:30

Okay guys... after a week or so of non-stop working on the motion menu it is finally ready (XMB and Slide styles).

multiAVCHD now supports static and motion menus + chapter pages + title list menu.

It is possible to create a compilation without a menu (xmb/slide/carousel) but only with a Title List Menu which allows you a faster scroll (12 titles per page).

All menu pages (static or motion) feature background audio.

Here is how it looks:

XMB base static:
http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_xmbS0.jpg

XMB base static / chapters:
http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_xmbSch.jpg

XMB base motion (title thumb and background are video):
http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_xmbM0.jpg

Title List Menu (for all menu styles and when not using menu):
http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_tlm0.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_tlm1.jpg

And of course - the POP-UP menu (designed by drelin) available during playback of each title:
http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_popup.jpg

Also, in Blu-ray output mode there are 'clicks' :) when you move the selection box in the "Chapters" and "Title List" pages.

All buttons can be placed at user-defined places, labels (play/setup...) can be changed and a lot of other things.

Since the GUI is lacking the additions, I can post a test version (1.5MB) for those of you who want to give it a try.

Dean

kabanero

1st February 2010, 23:51

Try using HDMI instead of YUV (YPbPr) :)

That's what I use: HDMI-to-HDMI.

Guest

1st February 2010, 23:54

Okay guys... after a week or so of non-stop working on the motion menu it is finally ready (XMB and Slide styles). Looks great, Dean! Thanks for your hard work on multiAVCHD.

SeeMoreDigital

1st February 2010, 23:57

Jeez Dean.

You've out-done yourself this time. It looks fantastic :)

deank

2nd February 2010, 00:35

:thanks: :cool:

I'll post a link to the .exe+.dat for testing tomorrow. :)

Sounddude

2nd February 2010, 01:35

Can't wait to try it out!

Ghitulescu

2nd February 2010, 08:57

Wow, you're a genius!

framura

2nd February 2010, 09:45

Deank,

whit this new version (it's great) will be possible to choose audio and subtitles track for each video?

My compliments for your (hard) work, multiAVCHD it's a great piece of software :thanks:

deank

2nd February 2010, 10:07

Yes, it will be possible to select audio/subtitles in the "SETUP" page, which supports selection of the first 6 audio and 6 subtitle tracks. It is not ready yet, but in few more days it will be.

:) Dean

Music Fan

2nd February 2010, 11:36

Bravo !;)

framura

2nd February 2010, 14:12

Beatnut

2nd February 2010, 15:00

Awesome, thnx, ill be testing it right away.

Beatnut

2nd February 2010, 15:54

when i am enabling motion thumbnails, my ps3 isnt showing anything at all, just a black screen with no navigational options. Is the ps3 compatible with this? or is there something else going on? i used the .dat and the .exe and overwrited the 729 version.

Beatnut

2nd February 2010, 16:44

Here is the log, my TV is a panasonic full hd tv that can handle 1920x1080 24 and iam using a PS3 to play it, when i switch off motion thumbnails, the menu works, when i switch it on, it doesnt.

i have downloaded that version of x264 and overwrited the one i had.
[16:38:49] Initialising...
[16:38:49] Checking for new version...
[16:38:49] You have the latest build.
[16:38:49] Consistency check finished!
[16:38:49] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[16:38:49] 1 year and 38 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[16:38:49] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[16:38:49] multiAVCHD.dat version: [03010730]
[16:38:50] All multiAVCHD settings are replaced with project settings!

[16:38:50] Project name: multiAVCHD
[16:38:50] Project loaded: (H:\AVCHD\multiAVCHD.mpf)
[16:38:50] Project created with build 730 (02/02/2010 15:56:16)

[16:40:06] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[16:40:06] Destination [H:]: FAT32, 1402821.31 MiB (1369.943 GiB) free space
[16:40:06] Temp folder [C:]: NTFS, 957961.57 MiB (935.509 GiB) free space

[16:40:06] Log started for multiAVCHD v3.1 (build 730)
[16:40:06] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)

[16:40:06] Processing 5 titles...
[16:40:06] Existing H:\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[16:40:06] Output will be written to: H:\AVCHD-20100202-164006
[16:40:07] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[16:40:10] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[16:40:12] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[16:40:12] Processing playlist...
[16:40:13] Title #1 added: "Slumdog millionaire"
[16:40:13] Verifying title...
[16:40:19] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 1 subtitle tracks

[16:40:19] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[16:40:22] Media transfer: 00002 -> 00002.m2ts
[16:40:23] Media transfer: 00003 -> 00003.m2ts
[16:40:23] Processing playlist...
[16:40:23] Title #2 added: "The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3"
[16:40:24] Verifying title...
[16:40:32] Title has: 3 audio tracks and 3 subtitle tracks

[16:40:32] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[16:40:35] Media transfer: 00004 -> 00004.m2ts
[16:40:36] Media transfer: 00005 -> 00005.m2ts
[16:40:36] Media transfer: 00006 -> 00006.m2ts
[16:40:37] Processing playlist...
[16:40:37] Title #3 added: "Mannen die vrouwen haten"
[16:40:37] Verifying title...
[16:40:48] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 6 subtitle tracks

[16:40:48] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[16:40:50] Media transfer: 00007 -> 00007.m2ts
[16:40:52] Media transfer: 00008 -> 00008.m2ts
[16:40:52] Processing playlist...
[16:40:52] Title #4 added: "De storm"
[16:40:52] Verifying title...
[16:40:58] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[16:40:59] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[16:41:01] Media transfer: 00009 -> 00009.m2ts
[16:41:02] Processing playlist...
[16:41:02] Title #5 added: "Seizoen 5 aflevering 16-17"
[16:41:02] Verifying title...
[16:41:06] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 1 subtitle tracks

[16:41:06] Preparing authoring information...
[16:41:06] Creating PAL top menu.
[16:41:06] Setting pop-up menu...
[16:41:07] *** Completed!
[16:41:07] Authoring menu (PAL).
[16:41:11] Creating title thumbnails for 5 titles (SLI)...
[16:41:13] Using 25 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[16:41:13] *** Extracting 25 chapter thumbnails...
[16:41:25] Using 13 thumbnail/chapter links for title #2...
[16:41:25] *** Extracting 13 chapter thumbnails...
[16:41:33] Using 13 thumbnail/chapter links for title #3...
[16:41:33] *** Extracting 13 chapter thumbnails...
[16:41:41] Using 13 thumbnail/chapter links for title #4...
[16:41:41] *** Extracting 13 chapter thumbnails...
[16:41:48] Using 13 thumbnail/chapter links for title #5...
[16:41:48] *** Extracting 13 chapter thumbnails...
[16:41:56] Image processing for SLI menu completed!

[16:41:56] Preparing menu pages...
[16:41:56] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/5].
[16:41:57] Cannot detect file size: (C:\Users\Beatnut\AppData\Local\Temp\_multiTMP\20100202-164111-MM001.264)
[16:42:05] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/5]: Chapter page [1/3].
[16:42:07] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/5]: Chapter page [2/3].
[16:42:08] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/5]: Chapter page [3/3].
[16:42:10] Encoding motion SLI menu page [2/5].
[16:42:13] Cannot detect file size: (C:\Users\Beatnut\AppData\Local\Temp\_multiTMP\20100202-164111-MM002.264)
[16:42:15] Encoding motion SLI menu page [2/5]: Chapter page [1/2].
[16:42:17] Encoding motion SLI menu page [2/5]: Chapter page [2/2].
[16:42:20] Encoding motion SLI menu page [3/5].
[16:42:21] Cannot detect file size: (C:\Users\Beatnut\AppData\Local\Temp\_multiTMP\20100202-164111-MM003.264)
[16:42:23] Encoding motion SLI menu page [3/5]: Chapter page [1/2].
[16:42:25] Encoding motion SLI menu page [3/5]: Chapter page [2/2].
[16:42:28] Encoding motion SLI menu page [4/5].
[16:42:29] Cannot detect file size: (C:\Users\Beatnut\AppData\Local\Temp\_multiTMP\20100202-164111-MM004.264)
[16:42:31] Encoding motion SLI menu page [4/5]: Chapter page [1/2].
[16:42:33] Encoding motion SLI menu page [4/5]: Chapter page [2/2].
[16:42:35] Encoding motion SLI menu page [5/5].
[16:42:37] Cannot detect file size: (C:\Users\Beatnut\AppData\Local\Temp\_multiTMP\20100202-164111-MM005.264)
[16:42:39] Encoding motion SLI menu page [5/5]: Chapter page [1/2].
[16:42:41] Encoding motion SLI menu page [5/5]: Chapter page [2/2].
[16:42:43] Menu authoring completed.

[16:42:43] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[16:42:53] Setting main menu for 5 titles...
[16:42:53] Playback will end after title #5.
[16:42:53] Setting menu properties...
[16:42:53] Selected TV system: [PAL]
[16:42:53] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[16:42:56] Completed.
[16:43:04] Setting FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[16:43:10] Done!

[16:43:11] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[16:43:11] H:\AVCHD-20100202-164006\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. Slumdog millionaire [02:00:33]
2. The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 [01:45:54]
3. Mannen die vrouwen haten [02:32:33]
4. De storm [01:36:40]
5. Seizoen 5 aflevering 16-17 [01:24:23]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 09:20:03
Output size : 27616 MiB (26.968 GiB)

[16:43:12] H:\AVCHD-20100202-164006 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[16:43:12] Copy H:\AVCHD-20100202-164006 to root of USB stick/disk or MemoryStick card or to X:\PRIVATE\ of SDHC/SD/MMC card.
[16:43:12] You may now remove temp folder (C:\Users\Beatnut\AppData\Local\Temp\_multiTMP\).
[16:43:12] Your compilation contains 9hrs 20min 3sec of video material.

[16:43:12] multiAVCHD finished in 185 seconds (00:03:05)!

[16:43:12] End of log.

[16:43:12] Cleaning up...
[16:43:12] Done!

[16:43:12] For technical support, bug reports and questions:

[16:43:12] http://multiforum.deanbg.com/
[16:43:12] http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/
[16:43:12] http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

[16:41:57] Cannot detect file size: (C:\Users\Beatnut\AppData\Local\Temp\_multiTMP\20100202-164111-MM001.264)

maybe it is because of this.

Beatnut

2nd February 2010, 16:53

I have backups, this is for testing so no worries. ill set the temp folder to the one you specified, thnx.

Edit: changing the temp folder didnt work, ill uninstall multiavchd and reinstall a fresh 729, i also will install avisynth and such again. ill try and test around some by myself.

thnx!

Edit: the version of x264.exe is the one you send me, last edited 26-10-2009, i dont know how to see wich version it is.

deank

2nd February 2010, 19:30

Here is a RC build for those of you who wish to test it:

multiAVCHD_730RC.rar (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) (1.5MB).

Contains:

multiAVCHD.exe (3.1.730)
multiAVCHD.dat [03010730]

**************************
This version supports:

* 252 titles per compilation
* 96 chapters per title (8 chapter pages per title)
* 21 title-list menu pages (12 titles per page = 252 titles)
* 1 audio/subtitle setup page per title (252 total) (not available yet)
* pop-up menu for each title
* background audio for the main title pages
* motion background for main title pages
* motion title-thumbnail for main title pages
* all menu related files are placed above 80000 (80000.m2ts - 93552.m2ts) and playlists above 00251 (00252-00552.mpls)

* Importing, scanning and verifying titles is about 4 to 8 times faster in this build
* Scan/import shows proper playlist duration, in/out times, linked IGS/POP-UP streams and multiAVCHD now recognizes the type of disc as BDMV 1.1, BDMV 2.0, AVCHD 1.1
* Chapter thumbnail extraction is about 10 to 20 times faster now (extracting 96 chapters from a movie takes less than 30 seconds, compared to few minutes in previous builds)
* Menu page generation for static pages is also about 2 times faster than before + a static page occupies about 50 to 100KB (compared to 400-500KB in previous builds)
* PLAYLIST tab in TITLE PROPERTIES shows a lot of information about the current title/file/playlist
* SEEK precision in TITLE PROPERTIES is ~1 frame and < > will skip about 1 frame (in milliseconds, depending on your video framerate)
* Setting POSTER frame, CUT/TRIM END/START now have milliseconds precision
* Seeking to and adding chapters in TITLE PROPERTIES with + and - buttons is with milliseconds precision
* GUI speed is drastically improved when working with more than 50-100 titles
* BD-Reauthor mode will properly handle sub-path sub-entries (like PIP, secondary audio, etc) and will properly restore links to such streams in the mpls files
* BD-Reauthor mode will properly restore playlist flags, chapter/entry marks and Extended Information in BDMV v2 Blu-ray disc titles with Extended information segment
* Should a compilation run fails, multiAVCHD is now able to load the unfinished project folder and continue
* [full mode] processing of imported playlists/titles will use only the (correct) playitems from the main-path and in the CORRECT order (so no more strange errors when trying to mux menus/textST m2ts files into the main movie and getting wrong movie fragments)

* to import compilations from older builds (<730) remove/rename multiAVCHD.mpf and import the folder to allow full re-scan.

* multiAVCHD will properly utilize the contents of HDAVCTN folder when importing older compilations, although the naming convention is changed to MMMMM-TTTCCC.jpg where MMMMM is the FIRST m2ts file number for the title, not the one which the chapter was extracted from.

**************************

To use it you will need the LATEST FULL download of build 729. Create a backup copy of it and extract both files to overwrite the old versions.

A good idea is to remove the .ini file, too.

Things to play with are in AUTHOR tab and in MENU/General and MENU/Misc.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_auth_730.jpg

[x] Add pop-up menu - this option was added in build 400 and later removed :) but now is back in the GUI and working. It allows fast access to next/previous title, the title menu, the chapter menu for the title and to the title-list menu where you can quickly browse to another title. POP-UP menu is not supported in Playstation3, unless used with Blu-ray output, burnt to BD-R/RE disc.

[x] Add title-list menu - You can use a title list menu even if you don't create main/top menu. The Title list menu will act as a top menu. In other words it is like another menu-style, which you can't customize (except for the number of tiles in the background). Should you decide not to use a menu (XMB/SLIDE/CAR) and only Title-list menu, it would take LESS than 2 minutes to create 21 pages for all your 252 titles. :)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_general.jpg

[x] Create chapter menu pages - up to 8 chapter pages x12 chapters will be created (8x12=96 chapter thumbs)

Chapter menu top/left defines the position of the chapter-list box.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_misc.jpg

Title list BG complexity setting has great impact on the speed of title-list-menu generation. The slider can be set from 0 to 12 and defines the number of small 'tiles' in the background of the menu. 12 means: 12x12=144 tiles for the left and 144 for the right = 288 tiles. You can see it in the pictures above - I posted one with setting 12 and one with setting 6. Use 3 to 6 for testing and to get it created faster.

Button coordinates are the default of the vertically scrolled menu (XMB). If you enable [x] Apply button position settings you can place each button wherever you want. The navigation will depend on the menu you chose (XMB will cause UP/DOWN to scroll and in SLIDE/CAR LEFT/RIGHT will scroll).

[x] Motion title thumbnail will work only if you use 'motion' menu and will animate the small title thumbnail, too (along with the background).

[x] Show chapter extraction - if disabled you will let multiAVCHD do its work, instead of showing you what it is doing. :)

Saturation / Brightness / Contrast / Blur options are applied to the motion background. Less saturation and more blur make the foreground clear and improve the overall 3D-like look. Steps: Saturation (0.0 to 1.0), Brightness (-15.0 to +15.0), Contrast (0.0 to 1.0), Blur (0 to 5).

[x] Use sound with navigation will make multiAVCHD use sound.bdmv in AUXDATA to play 'clicks' when you select/activate a button in Chapters menu and in Title List Menu. The option has effect only when using "Blu-ray" output mode.

XMB and SLIDE menu styles can be motion or static. Carousel can only be static at the moment.

Post back with any results.

Dean

edit: I found a bug with the pop-up menu, when applying it to existing AVCHD playlists. It is now fixed.

deank

3rd February 2010, 00:47

:) A lot of testers, eh...

***

I'll try to finish the "SETUP" page (audio / subtitle selection) and then I think of adding the feature to "GROUP" content (titles) - two levels for starters.

Before that, I'll activate the 'more' button in title properties, so each menu page will get the chance to be either 'static', 'motion' (defined by the settings in MENU tab) or defined by the options ([more] button). Each title will have its menu properties saved in the project file, so the next time a menu is created, it will need no set up.

Few things left like custom audio and custom video, but I won't proceed unless I get more feedback anyway.

Dean

Sounddude

3rd February 2010, 00:55

Have found the first bug, I think. When using the fit-all to a dvd-5 size (4480) it oversized by quite a bit (4898), this is using the Car menu with motion menu. It was probably due to my using multiple clips.

deank

3rd February 2010, 00:59

It is not a 'bug', nor if it was it is the 1st one :)

FIT-ALL works in 90% of the time... If your compilation has HD audio in any of the titles it can oversize...

418MB is a lot... I had no time to add checks for the new motion menu and the space it takes (usually 15-16MB per title). How many titles did you have?

kabanero

3rd February 2010, 03:09

Dean,

What suppose to happen when I select and press on Title List option? It does nothing for me. JVC player shuts down by itself, and PS3 jumps back to the main menu.

cwh060

3rd February 2010, 12:04

I tried AVCHD motion menu creation. The PS3 actually never gets to the top title, it just keeps reading the USB. Static menu of the same project works fine.

In the log the following errors are reported.

[20:42:29] Preparing menu pages...
[20:42:29] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/2].
[20:42:41] Cannot detect file size: (C:\Program Files (x86)\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\20100202-204201-MM001.264)
[20:42:48] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2].
[20:43:00] Cannot detect file size: (C:\Program Files (x86)\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\20100202-204201-MM002.264)
[20:43:01] Menu authoring completed.
[20:43:01] Setting main menu for 2 titles...
[20:43:01] Playback will end after title #2.
[20:43:01] Setting menu properties...
[20:43:01] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[20:43:01] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[20:43:01] Completed.
[20:43:03] Setting FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[20:43:03] Done!

I'll attach the full log.

rd001

3rd February 2010, 13:16

:) A lot of testers, eh...

It's your own fault. You've spoiled us. :rolleyes:

I have only used MultiAVCHD for a month or so but I can't convey how impressed I am with your project.

MultiAVCHD ranks up with XBMC (Xbox Media Player for original X-box) and Tytool (a utility to extract video from dual-tuner Tivo satellite boxes via network to MPG2 files and edit them, then produce video files or generate/burn DVDs). The Tytool guy was brilliant and relentless, your efforts remind me of him a lot. Those were happy times.

MultiAVCHD is one of a very short list of groundbreaking video hobbyist programs.

You know, I love the free software and donationware thing but you should consider selling your project to a software company to market and promote it and develop it further. You should be proud of your work and there's nothing wrong with making money off it.

deank

3rd February 2010, 13:51

:) Thanks, but I would like to keep the 'magic' of having multiAVCHD as a tool for all of you who helped developing it.

I already rejected offers from 5 or 6 big companies. It is just much more fun having it (multiAVCHD) as it is at the moment.

***

@cwh060: The encoding of the main menu page failed (this is what your log shows) - that's why it is not working. I changed the x264 used, so re-download and try again.

@kabanero: Do you have [x] Add title list menu option enabled in AUTHOR tab... And please report the problems with logs.

***

Btw, for all who want to continue with the tests - re-download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar)the archive. I fixed few things about the motion menu and the pop-up. Also when positioned on the last thumbnail in the chapters menu or in the title-list menu, the RIGHT button will take you to [X] button. Fixed a bug with setting audio/subtitle LID to UND/Other.

There are still few glitches in title-list and chapter pages - sometimes the bounding/selection box will go to places where it shouldn't. I'll get to it tomorrow. The main-menu pages should function 100% properly now.

Also, should generation of the first top-menu page fails, multiAVCHD will fall back to setting title-list menu as 'first-to-be-displayed' top menu.

Dean

zoner

3rd February 2010, 22:34

hi all

first of all, the progress of this program since i came back online a month ago has been amazing and i solute to you deank...

now, i finally bought myself a nice big fat external hdd for backing up my bluray collection but i've found myself having no idea what to do...
i loaded up my Gamer movie disc and backed it up to drive but when i am adding it to multiavchd it is adding it twice for no reason.
i let it slide, put the remuxed folder inside my Fat32 partition but when i am plugging it to my PS3 it wont show any titles under the USB section.
i also dont understand what the structure suppose to be for it to work....is it X:\AVCHD\BDMV or X:\PS3\AVCHD i am kinda lost. :)

thank you so much for keeping this beauty working

EDIT: NVM, it worked, only 2 issues i must ask about: 1. for some reason when i add the movie folder it adds the movie twice. 2. does BD-J brake when playing a bd off the hdd?

deank

3rd February 2010, 23:25

You click "START" then select "PLAYSTATION 3" and after it is done you copy the output folder (AVCHD) to the root of your USB HDD. If for some reason the folder is not named "AVCHD" you'll have to rename it to have

X:\AVCHD\BDMV\INDEX.BDM where X: is your USB HDD.

Dean

edit: You can't 'backup' BD-J titles to USB or DVD to be played in PS3. Playstation3 will play such discs only if burnt to BD-R/RE. Sony removed the feature 2 years ago :(

Probably your movie has 2 playlists (different versions/alternate endings) for the main movie. Go to "PROPERTIES" and remove one of the playlists.

Rudy A-Traxx

4th February 2010, 02:05

Do you think that in the future, the pop up menu - since it seems it can't be on two levels (pop-menu out of pop-menu like the commercially authored blu-rays) - that the pop up menu could show above the present blue pop-up menu bar, just in plain text, the listing of all the tracks available (or all chapters, when one track) and the audio and subtitles versions available for the track currently played ?
so that we could select them from there without living the programme currently played.

Thanks

alimao

4th February 2010, 03:17

background audio option user defined is disabled ?

deank

4th February 2010, 11:36

Do you think that in the future...

No.

background audio option user defined is disabled ?

Yes. This is a test version, which lacks testers.

**************

I updated the RC build (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) - all navigation in main/title/chapter pages works as it should. LEFT/RIGHT/UP/DOWN navigate the selection box more intuitively and properly.

cwh060

4th February 2010, 13:04

dean,

I will try this latest version. I have had lots of problems trying to create a slide type menu with motion. I can't put my finger on the problem as the program either halts (ie windows must close) or it continues on showing an ETA of 4hrs plus to complete and I must halt it.

I had one creation go through to the end. When I played back on PS3, it would show 1sec of the top menu then go black. The sound continued to play, but nothing was on the screen.

I have download the latest RC version and am trying all over again.

While writing this, I see it's doing it again, the eta is counting upwards past 2hrs. Looks like I must halt/stop.

What would help you diagnose this problem, since I will probably be halting it again?

Had to halt again, looking back at my logs, it's always getting stuck at the same spot, menu creation. Here is my most recent log, the last 4 look identical.
cwh

Beatnut

4th February 2010, 13:04

[13:00:08] Initialising...
[13:00:08] Checking for new version...
[13:00:08] You have the latest build.
[13:00:08] Consistency check finished!
[13:00:08] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[13:00:08] 1 year and 40 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[13:00:08] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[13:00:08] multiAVCHD.dat version: [03010730]
[13:00:09] All multiAVCHD settings are replaced with project settings!

[13:00:09] Project name: multiAVCHD
[13:00:09] Project loaded: (H:\AVCHD\multiAVCHD.mpf)
[13:00:09] Project created with build 730 (02/02/2010 16:58:10)

[13:00:43] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[13:00:43] Destination [H:]: FAT32, 1402822.53 MiB (1369.944 GiB) free space
[13:00:43] Temp folder [C:]: NTFS, 935314.58 MiB (913.393 GiB) free space

[13:00:43] Log started for multiAVCHD v3.1 (build 730)
[13:00:43] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)

[13:00:43] Processing 5 titles...
[13:00:43] Existing H:\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[13:00:43] Output will be written to: H:\AVCHD-20100204-130043
[13:00:44] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[13:00:46] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[13:00:48] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[13:00:49] Processing playlist...
[13:00:49] Title #1 added: "Slumdog millionaire"
[13:00:49] Verifying title...
dut
dut
[13:00:55] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 1 subtitle tracks

[13:00:55] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[13:00:58] Media transfer: 00002 -> 00002.m2ts
[13:00:59] Media transfer: 00003 -> 00003.m2ts
[13:00:59] Processing playlist...
[13:00:59] Title #2 added: "The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3"
[13:00:59] Verifying title...
eng
eng
eng
eng
[13:01:08] Title has: 3 audio tracks and 3 subtitle tracks

[13:01:08] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[13:01:11] Media transfer: 00004 -> 00004.m2ts
[13:01:12] Media transfer: 00005 -> 00005.m2ts
[13:01:12] Media transfer: 00006 -> 00006.m2ts
[13:01:12] Processing playlist...
[13:01:13] Title #3 added: "Mannen die vrouwen haten"
[13:01:13] Verifying title...
eng
dan
fin
nor
sve
eng
dan
fin
nor
sve
eng
dan
fin
nor
sve
[13:01:24] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 6 subtitle tracks

[13:01:24] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[13:01:26] Media transfer: 00007 -> 00007.m2ts
[13:01:28] Media transfer: 00008 -> 00008.m2ts
[13:01:28] Processing playlist...
[13:01:28] Title #4 added: "De storm"
[13:01:28] Verifying title...
[13:01:34] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[13:01:35] Processing multiAVCHD playlist...

[13:01:37] Media transfer: 00009 -> 00009.m2ts
[13:01:38] Processing playlist...
[13:01:38] Title #5 added: "Seizoen 5 aflevering 16-17"
[13:01:38] Verifying title...
dut
[13:01:41] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 1 subtitle tracks

[13:01:41] Preparing authoring information...
[13:01:42] Creating PAL top menu.
[13:01:42] Setting pop-up menu...
[13:01:43] *** Completed!
[13:01:43] Authoring menu (PAL).
[13:01:47] Creating title thumbnails for 5 titles (SLI)...
[13:01:48] Using 25 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[13:01:48] *** Extracting 25 chapter thumbnails...
[13:02:00] Using 13 thumbnail/chapter links for title #2...
[13:02:00] *** Extracting 13 chapter thumbnails...
[13:02:08] Using 13 thumbnail/chapter links for title #3...
[13:02:08] *** Extracting 13 chapter thumbnails...
[13:02:16] Using 13 thumbnail/chapter links for title #4...
[13:02:16] *** Extracting 13 chapter thumbnails...
[13:02:23] Using 13 thumbnail/chapter links for title #5...
[13:02:23] *** Extracting 13 chapter thumbnails...
[13:02:31] Image processing for SLI menu completed!

[13:02:31] Preparing menu pages...
[13:02:31] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/5].
[13:02:32] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM001.264)
[13:02:32] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM001.264)
[13:02:32] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[13:02:32] Final output may be corrupted!
[13:02:32] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...
[13:02:32] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/5]: Chapter page [1/3].
[13:02:34] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/5]: Chapter page [2/3].
[13:02:35] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/5]: Chapter page [3/3].
[13:02:37] Encoding motion SLI menu page [2/5].
[13:02:40] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM002.264)
[13:02:40] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM002.264)
[13:02:40] Error encoding main menu page #2!
[13:02:40] Encoding motion SLI menu page [2/5]: Chapter page [1/2].
[13:02:42] Encoding motion SLI menu page [2/5]: Chapter page [2/2].
[13:02:44] Encoding motion SLI menu page [3/5].
[13:02:45] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM003.264)
[13:02:45] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM003.264)
[13:02:45] Error encoding main menu page #3!
[13:02:45] Encoding motion SLI menu page [3/5]: Chapter page [1/2].
[13:02:47] Encoding motion SLI menu page [3/5]: Chapter page [2/2].
[13:02:49] Encoding motion SLI menu page [4/5].
[13:02:51] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM004.264)
[13:02:51] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM004.264)
[13:02:51] Error encoding main menu page #4!
[13:02:51] Encoding motion SLI menu page [4/5]: Chapter page [1/2].
[13:02:52] Encoding motion SLI menu page [4/5]: Chapter page [2/2].
[13:02:54] Encoding motion SLI menu page [5/5].
[13:02:56] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM005.264)
[13:02:56] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\20100204-130147-MM005.264)
[13:02:56] Error encoding main menu page #5!
[13:02:56] Encoding motion SLI menu page [5/5]: Chapter page [1/2].
[13:02:58] Encoding motion SLI menu page [5/5]: Chapter page [2/2].
[13:03:00] Menu authoring completed.

[13:03:00] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[13:03:08] Setting main menu for 5 titles...
[13:03:08] Playback will end after title #5.
[13:03:08] Setting menu properties...
[13:03:08] Selected TV system: [PAL]
[13:03:08] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[13:03:10] Completed.
[13:03:17] Setting FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[13:03:22] Done!

[13:03:23] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[13:03:23] H:\AVCHD-20100204-130043\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. Slumdog millionaire [02:00:33]
2. The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 [01:45:54]
3. Mannen die vrouwen haten [02:32:33]
4. De storm [01:36:40]
5. Seizoen 5 aflevering 16-17 [01:24:23]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 09:20:03
Output size : 27610 MiB (26.963 GiB)

[13:03:24] H:\AVCHD-20100204-130043 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[13:03:24] Copy H:\AVCHD-20100204-130043 to root of USB stick/disk or MemoryStick card or to X:\PRIVATE\ of SDHC/SD/MMC card and rename to AVCHD!
[13:03:24] You may now remove temp folder (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\).
[13:03:24] Your compilation contains 9hrs 20min 3sec of video material.

[13:03:24] multiAVCHD finished in 160 seconds (00:02:40)!

[13:03:24] End of log.

[13:03:24] Cleaning up...
[13:03:24] Done!

[13:03:24] For technical support, bug reports and questions:

[13:03:24] http://multiforum.deanbg.com/
[13:03:24] http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/
[13:03:24] http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

i downlaoded the new rar en tested the motion menu again, this time i get different errors.

cwh060

4th February 2010, 13:43

Success, well partially anyway.

I trimmed my source files down to only 5-6mins so I could test without having to wait long. This time the program went to the end without errors.

[07:28:08] Preparing authoring information...
[07:28:08] Creating NTSC top menu.
[07:28:08] Setting pop-up menu...
[07:28:10] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[07:28:10] *** [00001.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[07:28:10] *** Completed!
[07:28:10] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[07:28:12] Creating title thumbnails for 2 titles (SLI)...
[07:28:17] Using 7 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[07:28:17] *** Extracting 7 chapter thumbnails...
[07:28:26] Using 7 thumbnail/chapter links for title #2...
[07:28:26] *** Extracting 7 chapter thumbnails...
[07:28:31] Image processing for SLI menu completed!

[07:28:31] Preparing menu pages...
[07:28:31] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/2].
[07:30:49] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[07:30:54] Encoding motion SLI menu page [2/2].
[07:33:08] Encoding motion SLI menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[07:33:13] Menu authoring completed.

[07:33:13] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[07:33:18] Setting main menu for 2 titles...
[07:33:18] Go to menu after last title.
[07:33:18] Setting menu properties...
[07:33:18] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[07:33:18] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[07:33:18] Completed.
[07:33:20] Setting FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[07:33:20] Done!

[07:33:22] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[07:33:22] F:\multiOutput\AVCHD\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. Hello, Dexter Morgan [00:05:48]
2. The Getaway [00:06:04]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 00:11:52
Output size : 983 MiB (0.96 GiB)

[07:33:22] F:\multiOutput\AVCHD folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[07:33:22] Copy F:\multiOutput\AVCHD to root of USB stick/disk or MemoryStick card or to X:\PRIVATE\ of SDHC/SD/MMC card and rename to AVCHD!
[07:33:22] You may now remove temp folder (C:\Program Files (x86)\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\).
[07:33:22] Your compilation contains 0hrs 11min 52sec of video material.

[07:33:22] multiAVCHD finished in 351 seconds (00:05:51)!

[07:33:22] End of log.

[07:33:22] Cleaning up...
[07:33:22] Done!

However, when I played back in PS3, I could not control anything. There was no cursor, or ability to navigate. The motion worked, but I had to use the PS3 menu to stop playback.

cwh

deank

4th February 2010, 13:48

Yes.. there seems to be a problem with Playstation3 :( I just tested it now and got the same problem (no navigation boxes).

Re-download the archive...

***

Also I was able to trick the Playstation3 to use the POP-UP menu :) using USB/AVCHD and I'll add it later.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_PS3-popup.JPG

Ginsonic

4th February 2010, 14:29

I already rejected offers from 5 or 6 big companies. It is just much more fun having it (multiAVCHD) as it is at the moment.
Great, great work Dean, many thanks ! Maybe You should not give Your "baby" to a company but make it shareware. You would deserve more money for all Your efforts.

cwh060

4th February 2010, 14:35

Tried again, slide menu with motion, this time using the full length videos, (each is 51mins & ~4g) again I had to halt/stop the program. It was showing an ETA for completion of 3hrs52mins. I've never actually let it go all the way through, maybe I should?

Is there a way to limit the number of chapters multi makes? Is 12 equal the only way? With my source being 51 mins, it's making 25 chapters, I really don't need that many. 4 or 5 would be good.

cwh

deank

4th February 2010, 14:38

A motion menu page generation takes about 3 to 5 minutes (sometimes 10)... It takes a while to start, but then it should complete within a reasonable time.

use the option [x] Show spawned tools in SETTINGS and see what is mx264.exe doing.

About the chapters - you can set them in "PROPERTIES"/"Chapters"... Enter the desired chapter count and click 'AUTO'.

alimao

4th February 2010, 15:42

I doing something wrong
I can not do animated XMB menu
I click on the option, when you complete the project, the two films de 17gigas

deank

4th February 2010, 16:18

There was a bug in the POP-UP menu, which is now fixed. All buttons work properly. The POP-UP also works in Playstation 3 via USB/SDHC when clicking the [VIEW] or SQUARE buttons (not the pop-up one).

Have in mind that the pop-up is 1920x1080, so it won't show if your video is 1280x720 or 720x....

You can re-download the RC build. (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar)

cwh060

4th February 2010, 16:21

About the chapters - you can set them in "PROPERTIES"/"Chapters"... Enter the desired chapter count and click 'AUTO'. ..of course...doh

use the option [x] Show spawned tools in SETTINGS and see what is mx264.exe doing....just sits there and does nothing. Screen has some commands, but it looks to have halted.

I tried agan with full files, Slide menu and Motion, left it to process for 1 hr and when I came back home, had to stop multi...eta was showing (...)

Bit at a loss of what to try next, think I'll try XMB instead of slide menu. If it halts this time, I'll capture the a 264 screen shot.

cwh

cwh060

4th February 2010, 16:56

Good news bad news!

Good News - The full files processed properly in XMB menu, the project went through to the end in 8mins <=excellent. Log attached.

Bad News - PS3 playback. The motion menu starts then freezes (title 1). It plays back about 1/2 sec then stops, navigation seems to work fine. Moving to the next title 2, the playback starts for 1/2 sec, then screen goes to black. The navigation (blue highlight) is the only thing on the screen.

cwh

Must have been typing when your last RC candidate was release, I will try agin using XMB again.

deank

4th February 2010, 17:01

Please post your log in your message, otherwise it needs a moderator to approve the attachment.

Still I can't replicate your troubles. I have encoded more than 50 compilations with motion menu and all work fine.

It is something related to the encoding process with x264 and avisynth.

cwh060

4th February 2010, 17:11

Here is the log, everything looks fine to me.

I have the most recent version of x264 from your earlier posts. I can replace again, if we think it will help. Everything works fine with Static menu and partially works with XMB motion menu. I'll snap a pic.

[10:17:47] Initialising...
[10:17:47] Checking for new version...
[10:17:47] You have the latest build.
[10:17:47] Consistency check finished!
[10:17:47] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[10:17:47] 1 year and 40 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[10:17:47] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[10:17:47] multiAVCHD.dat version: [03010730]

[10:22:19] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[10:22:20] Destination [F:]: NTFS, 657120.79 MiB (641.72 GiB) free space
[10:22:20] Temp folder [C:]: NTFS, 355114.19 MiB (346.791 GiB) free space

[10:22:20] Log started for multiAVCHD v3.1 (build 730)
[10:22:20] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)

[10:22:20] Processing 2 titles...
[10:22:20] Processing (H:\Movies\CyberLink Projects\Dexter\Dexter-(Hello, Dexter Morgan)-2009-12-06-0.ts)...
[10:22:21] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[10:22:21] Detected video: ID#4113:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=29.970, ref=4
[10:22:21] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4352)
[10:22:21] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[10:22:21] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[10:22:21] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: Main@4.0 Resolution: 1920:1080i Frame rate: 29.97
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=29.97
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 384Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
B-pyramid level 2 detected. Shift DTS to 3 frames
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Processed 91872 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 2 min 58 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:17:01.666;00:34:03.333;00:51:04.000 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "H:\Movies\CyberLink Projects\Dexter\Dexter-(Hello, Dexter Morgan)-2009-12-06-0.ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=29.970
A_AC3, "H:\Movies\CyberLink Projects\Dexter\Dexter-(Hello, Dexter Morgan)-2009-12-06-0.ts", track=4352, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
===============================================================================
[10:24:51] Setting resolution (1080i).
[10:24:51] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[10:25:38] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[10:25:39] Processing playlist...
[10:25:39] Title #1 added: "Hello, Dexter Morgan"
[10:25:39] Verifying title...
[10:25:44] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[10:25:44] Processing (H:\Movies\CyberLink Projects\Dexter\Dexter-(The Getaway)-2009-12-13-0.ts)...
[10:25:45] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[10:25:45] Detected video: ID#4113:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=29.970, ref=4
[10:25:45] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4352)
[10:25:45] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[10:25:45] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[10:25:45] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: Main@4.0 Resolution: 1920:1080i Frame rate: 29.97
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=29.97
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 384Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
B-pyramid level 2 detected. Shift DTS to 3 frames
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Processed 95917 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 2 min 43 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:17:46.666;00:35:33.333;00:53:19.000 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "H:\Movies\CyberLink Projects\Dexter\Dexter-(The Getaway)-2009-12-13-0.ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=29.970
A_AC3, "H:\Movies\CyberLink Projects\Dexter\Dexter-(The Getaway)-2009-12-13-0.ts", track=4352, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
===============================================================================
[10:28:03] Setting resolution (1080i).
[10:28:03] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00002.m2ts
[10:28:53] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00003.m2ts
[10:28:56] Processing playlist...
[10:28:56] Title #2 added: "The Getaway"
[10:28:56] Verifying title...
[10:29:01] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[10:29:01] Preparing authoring information...
[10:29:01] Creating NTSC top menu.
[10:29:01] Setting pop-up menu...
[10:29:02] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[10:29:02] *** [00001.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[10:29:02] *** Completed!
[10:29:02] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[10:29:04] Creating title thumbnails for 2 titles (XMB)...
[10:29:09] Using 4 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[10:29:09] *** Extracting 4 chapter thumbnails...
[10:29:19] Using 4 thumbnail/chapter links for title #2...
[10:29:19] *** Extracting 4 chapter thumbnails...
[10:29:23] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[10:29:23] Preparing menu pages...
[10:29:23] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/2].
[10:29:40] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[10:29:45] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2].
[10:30:06] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[10:30:11] Menu authoring completed.

[10:30:12] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[10:30:16] Setting main menu for 2 titles...
[10:30:16] Playback will end after title #2.
[10:30:16] Setting menu properties...
[10:30:16] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[10:30:16] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[10:30:17] Completed.
[10:30:19] Setting FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[10:30:19] Done!

[10:30:20] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[10:30:20] F:\multiOutput\AVCHD\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. Hello, Dexter Morgan [00:51:05]
2. The Getaway [00:53:20]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 01:44:25
Output size : 8300 MiB (8.105 GiB)

[10:30:20] F:\multiOutput\AVCHD folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[10:30:20] Copy F:\multiOutput\AVCHD to root of USB stick/disk or MemoryStick card or to X:\PRIVATE\ of SDHC/SD/MMC card and rename to AVCHD!
[10:30:20] You may now remove temp folder (C:\Program Files (x86)\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\).
[10:30:20] Your compilation contains 1hrs 44min 25sec of video material.

[10:30:20] multiAVCHD finished in 480 seconds (00:08:00)!

[10:30:20] End of log.

I can try blu ray output, it just takes forever to create and burn to BR.

deank

4th February 2010, 17:19

You log shows that menu encoding is done in 20 seconds, which is impossible. I'll test now again to see if I broke something.

rack04

4th February 2010, 17:39

Are the x/y positions on the menu tab for "Play" "Setup" "Chapters" and "Title List" backwards? "Setup" "Chapters" and "Title List" should have the same y but different x values.

EDIT: I see how these values can be true with XMB menu. I was specifically referring to Carousel menu.

deank

4th February 2010, 18:09

I don't understand your question... These are just coordinates - put whatever you want. To use the values you entered, enable [x] Apply button positions settings option.

Music Fan

4th February 2010, 18:12

Have in mind that the pop-up is 1920x1080, so it won't show if your video is 1280x720 or 720x....
Even if the resolution is set to 1080p in the player's setup ?

deank

4th February 2010, 18:18

I don't know ALL players. PS3 will switch to 720p and it is not visible. Anyway, I prepared 720p pop-up menu to be used with 1280x720p titles, so it will be okay.

Music Fan

4th February 2010, 18:43

And what happens if we put 720p videos and 1080p videos on the same disc ?:D;)
I ask it because I guess there is one pop-menu resolution by disc.
PS3 will switch to 720p and it is not visible.
Do you mean that the PS3 doesn't let you the choice of the resolution and that you cannot upscale 720p to 1080p ?
If yes, a test would be nice to know if the pop-menu appears when you set the resolution to 1080p.

deank

4th February 2010, 18:45

No.. there are 2 (or three if I make one for 480i/576i).

I just tested it with 2 titles 1920x1080 and 1280x720 - each uses its own pop-up (although they look the same) and both show okay :)

Music Fan

4th February 2010, 18:56

Cool, amazing !
I edited my message after your response, there is another question.:o
But after what you said, I guess that even if the resolution is set to 1080p in the setup, the 720p video will automatically "call" the 720p pop-up menu which will be upscaled in 1080p by the player.
But it's not easy to say if both pop-up menu resolutions are on the disc.

deank

4th February 2010, 19:00

Music Fan

4th February 2010, 19:02

But it's not easy to say if both pop-up menu resolutions are on the disc.
Unless there is a difference between the different pop-up menues. For example, its resolution written discretely on it.

A pop-up menu for 480/576 resolutions is a good idea.;)

deank

4th February 2010, 19:10

Of course there is a difference... it is not just x/y and width/height - the whole image for the pop-up is RLE encoded to fit the screen.

Music Fan

4th February 2010, 19:22

I prefer writing the code for multiAVCHD than speculating what a player would do. I know what PS3 does and it is enough for me. Either way the pop-up will be visible.

When I find a user to test and report the result I'll know more.
:confused:
Stay coooool.
I don't understand this reaction, my question is logical because many people use MultiAVCHD to make compilations with different resolutions.
And it was only the continuation of my previous question that you answered nicely.:o

As you said earlier, you chose to make a free program with donation system to stay free and also (I guess) to stay closer of the users who help you to make it evolve.
Thus, don't be astonished if we make suggestions and if we dare you ask some (punctilious) questions, especially if it concerns a new possibility of your program.

I'm not programer and i'm not supposed to know what you know about your program.

Music Fan

4th February 2010, 19:27

Of course there is a difference... it is not just x/y and width/height - the whole image for the pop-up is RLE encoded to fit the screen.
I meant a visible difference, just to know if we are looking at the 720p pop-up menu upscaled in 1080p when we look at a 720p video on a player set on 1080p.
But it's not important, I'm maybe too curious ...

deank

4th February 2010, 19:35

You misinterpreted the tone of my message I guess :)

Still, I'll repeat that I have no answer to your question since I can't test what you ask for. If you can - do it and you will know (and then I will know).

I'm not even sure if Blu-ray players will up-scale 1280x720 to 1920x1080. Most probably they will switch HDMI to 720p (which is the correct thing to do).

As I said, I don't mind your questions, but I have another 20 like yours and I have no one to ask for an answer.

crl2007

4th February 2010, 19:37

I think you like to ask unnecessary questions. The man already said that each resolution has its own pop-up, not upscaled, not downscaled. It is not a studio software, to create a menu from scratch with given elements, all is preset.

l.e. "Most probably they will switch HDMI to 720p (which is the correct thing to do)." - deank put it a whole lot better that I would have.

DLynch

4th February 2010, 19:42

Hi Dean,

I've been testing static XMB menus so far on a Sony BDP-S350.

Navigation on the main menu works fine. The chapter menus are a nice addition as is the background sound. Let me know when the user defined option is available.

The pop-up menu appears even though I am using 720p video.

I had a list of pop-up menu problems with Chapters/Title List and Title Menu not working but your last RC appears to have fixed that.

The only issue I now see with the Previous and Next title buttons is that it cycles through the main menu also. For example, if you are on the first title and select previous title, you are sent to the main menu. If you are on the last title and select next title, you are again sent to the main menu.

I'll see how the motion menus are working next. I had some compilation problems last night.

Keep up the excellent work!

cwh060

4th February 2010, 19:53

dean,

I can report the blank screen is now gone with the latest release candidate. The 1/2sec motion menu is still evident.

[11:42:41] Preparing menu pages...
[11:42:41] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/2].
[11:42:55] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[11:43:00] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2].
[11:43:09] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[11:43:13] Menu authoring completed.

As you stated, the menu is not taking long enough to create, it's still the same with this rc.

The pop up menu is a cool additon on PS3!

cwh

Music Fan

4th February 2010, 20:14

l.e. "Most probably they will switch HDMI to 720p (which is the correct thing to do)." - deank put it a whole lot better that I would have.
Not with my player which upscales everything in 1080p (because I chose that in its setup), that's why I was asking this question.
I think you like to ask unnecessary questions.
I disagree ...
Until now, the pop-up menu was only available on Blu-ray Disc, and they are in 1080p (i'm not sure that pop-up menu is only available on 1080p video but nearly), and it's the reason why I find the idea of deank to make it in other resolutions particularly interesting and innovative.

Music Fan

4th February 2010, 20:19

You misinterpreted the tone of my message I guess :)
(...)
No problem ;), english is not my mother tongue and I may sometimes misunderstand the tone of some sentences.
And I know that your work is not easy at all.

DLynch

4th February 2010, 20:41

Alright!:D

Motion menus with motion thumbnails works fine on the Sony BDP-S350!

I get the Windows No Disk exception dialog box early on when the menu pages are encoding. After clicking continue a few times processing continues and the compilation completes fine.

I don't think it is related to the new software although it didn't happen before with multiAVCHD. Has anyone else had something similar happen?

deank

4th February 2010, 21:10

The only issue I now see with the Previous and Next title buttons is that it cycles through the main menu also. For example, if you are on the first title and select previous title, you are sent to the main menu. If you are on the last title and select next title, you are again sent to the main menu.

It is supposed to do that. When you're playing the last title which one is the 'next'? (and when playing the 1st, which one is the previous?)

The error you get with 'no disk' is related to thumb preview (mplayer). I found a way to overcome this, but today I had no time to add it to the RC build. I will tomorrow.

I can report the blank screen is now gone with the latest release candidate. The 1/2sec motion menu is still evident. The pop up menu is a cool additon on PS3!

Make sure your PC can play/process avc m2ts files. Open a m2ts file in multiAVCHD and go to transcode and see what will happen... Also, the motion menu works only with videos which are at least one minute long.

Since a lot of other people do not have the same problem I'd suggest that it is something (and I don't know what) at your end.
DLynch: Motion menus with motion thumbnails work fine on the Sony BDP-S350!

cwh060

4th February 2010, 21:27

Make sure your PC can play/process avc m2ts files...yes, no problem, I use mpc-hc64.exe to playback, sound and audio are fine.

Open a m2ts file in multiAVCHD and go to transcode and see what will happen... I imported one of the MTS files which multi created, went to properties and pushed transcode...result is the file attached (M2TS.JPG)

My videos's each are 51mins long. I have also attached the Stream folder output from multiAVCHD (M2TSFiles.JPG). As you can see the 80010.MTS and 80020.MTS files are 1200 & 1500 kbs, kinda small (I think). Opening them is the same playback seen on the PS3?

cwh

deank

4th February 2010, 21:35

A motion menu m2ts should be ~ 15MB... I can't see the pictures you attached but I also can't say anything about the fact you're using 64bit OS.

Try to 'transcode' a m2ts file with multiAVCHD and let me know if it transcodes okay.

There are too many things to fix and I don't include your failures as a bug yet.

cwh060

4th February 2010, 21:48

Ok, that's fair enough.

I'll try a transcode and see what happens, I'm sure it will be fine. I use BDRB quite often after multi, and I've had great success. I saw the post about not enough testers and thought I'd jump in as I have PS3.

Thanks again.
cwh

alimao

4th February 2010, 22:07

because my menu is animated with this picture?

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4140/new1p.jpg

tested with TotalMedia Theatre 3

deank

4th February 2010, 22:08

@cwh060: My test environment is a vista 32bit ultimate and ps3... + the codecs I installed back in september 2008. Nothing changed in my config since the 1st build of multiAVCHD. And thank you for taking time to test the new features!

@alimao: I'm sorry but I really can't understand your posts.

alimao

4th February 2010, 22:18

deank

4th February 2010, 22:24

Well.. you should see something in your log... or your PC is unable to decode the video (m2ts files)... I'm kind of tired repeating this over and over again.

This is a TEST BUILD... so please use 3.0.729 if you want to create a working compilation and if you're not here to test 730RC.

TO ALL: If you can't get the motion menu working it means that for some reason your PC can't properly decode each title's m2ts files and convert segments of them to h.264/avc with x264. I can't help you with this since it is working on my computer and I'm using the same configuration for the last 14 months.

DLynch

4th February 2010, 22:26

It is supposed to do that. When you're playing the last title which one is the 'next'? (and when playing the 1st, which one is the previous?)

I realize that the menus are also titles (parts is parts) but I thought that the navigation would loop through the imported media files from first to last and vice versa and that the Title Menu would be the way back to the main menu.

The error you get with 'no disk' is related to thumb preview (mplayer). I found a way to overcome this, but today I had no time to add it to the RC build. I will tomorrow.

That's good to hear. I was worried I might start having Windows problems.

alimao

4th February 2010, 22:31

I see no problem in my pc in coding m2ts files. log below

[18:13:53] For technical support, bug reports and questions:

[18:13:53] http://multiforum.deanbg.com/
[18:13:53] http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/
[18:13:53] http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

[18:18:40] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[18:18:41] Destination [G:]: NTFS, 66069.39 MiB (64.521 GiB) free space
[18:18:41] Temp folder [G:]: NTFS, 66069.39 MiB (64.521 GiB) free space

[18:18:41] Log started for multiAVCHD v3.1 (build 730)
[18:18:41] Selected output mode: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)

[18:18:41] Processing 2 titles...
[18:18:41] Existing G:\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[18:18:41] Output will be written to: G:\AVCHD-20100204-181841
[18:18:41] Processing (G:\coraline 2d_3d\00010.m2ts)...
[18:18:43] Detected video: ID#4113:V_MS/VFW/WVC1 1920x1080, fps=23.976
[18:18:43] DTS-HRA, DTS-MA will not be reencoded.
[18:18:43] Adding DTS audio track (ID#4352)
[18:18:43] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4354)
[18:18:43] Detected subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: por
[18:18:43] Total of 5 tracks found in this file.
[18:18:43] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[18:18:43] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
VC-1 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding VC-1 stream (track 1): Profile: Advanced@3 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding DTS-HD stream (track 2): Bitrate: 1536Kbps core + MLP data.Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1 (DTS Master Audio)
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 320Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding PGS stream (track 4): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Processed 144725 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 17 min 8 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:02:47.666;00:05:35.333;00:08:23.000;00:11:10.666;00:13:58.333;00:16:46.000;00:19:33.666;00:22:21.333;00:25:09.000;00:27:56.666;00:30:44.333;00:33:32.000;00:36:19.666;00:39:07.333;00:41:55.000;00:44:42.666;00:47:30.333;00:50:18.000;00:53:05.666;00:55:53.333;00:58:41.000;01:01:28.666;01:04:16.333;01:07:04.000;01:09:51.666;01:12:39.333;01:15:27.000;01:18:14.666;01:21:02.333;01:23:50.000;01:26:37.666;01:29:25.333;01:32:13.000;01:35:00.666;01:37:48.333;01:40:35.000 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "G:\coraline 2d_3d\00010.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=23.976
A_DTS, "G:\coraline 2d_3d\00010.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
A_AC3, "G:\coraline 2d_3d\00010.m2ts", track=4354, lang=por, timeshift=12ms
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\coraline 2d_3d\00010.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=por
===============================================================================
[18:31:05] Setting resolution (1080p).
[18:31:06] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[18:31:06] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[18:31:06] Media transfer: 00002 -> 00002.m2ts
[18:31:06] Media transfer: 00003 -> 00003.m2ts
[18:31:06] Processing playlist...
[18:31:06] Title #1 added: "CORALINE 2D INGLES/PORT"
[18:31:06] Verifying title...
[18:31:15] Title has: 2 audio tracks and 1 subtitle tracks

[18:31:15] Processing (G:\coraline 2d_3d\00083.m2ts)...
[18:31:17] Detected video: ID#4113:V_MS/VFW/WVC1 1920x1080, fps=23.976
[18:31:17] DTS-HRA, DTS-MA will not be reencoded.
[18:31:17] Adding DTS audio track (ID#4352)
[18:31:17] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4354)
[18:31:17] Detected subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: por
[18:31:17] Total of 3 tracks found in this file.
[18:31:17] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[18:31:17] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
VC-1 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding VC-1 stream (track 1): Profile: Advanced@3 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding DTS-HD stream (track 2): Bitrate: 1536Kbps core + MLP data.Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1 (DTS Master Audio)
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 320Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding PGS stream (track 4): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Processed 144725 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 18 min 7 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:02:47.666;00:05:35.333;00:08:23.000;00:11:10.666;00:13:58.333;00:16:46.000;00:19:33.666;00:22:21.333;00:25:09.000;00:27:56.666;00:30:44.333;00:33:32.000;00:36:19.666;00:39:07.333;00:41:55.000;00:44:42.666;00:47:30.333;00:50:18.000;00:53:05.666;00:55:53.333;00:58:41.000;01:01:28.666;01:04:16.333;01:07:04.000;01:09:51.666;01:12:39.333;01:15:27.000;01:18:14.666;01:21:02.333;01:23:50.000;01:26:37.666;01:29:25.333;01:32:13.000;01:35:00.666;01:37:48.333;01:40:35.000 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "G:\coraline 2d_3d\00083.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=23.976
A_DTS, "G:\coraline 2d_3d\00083.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
A_AC3, "G:\coraline 2d_3d\00083.m2ts", track=4354, lang=por, timeshift=12ms
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\coraline 2d_3d\00083.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=por
===============================================================================
[18:44:23] Setting resolution (1080p).
[18:44:23] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00004.m2ts
[18:44:23] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00005.m2ts
[18:44:23] Media transfer: 00002 -> 00006.m2ts
[18:44:23] Media transfer: 00003 -> 00007.m2ts
[18:44:23] Processing playlist...
[18:44:23] Title #2 added: "CORALINE 3D INGLES/PORT"
[18:44:23] Verifying title...
[18:44:33] Title has: 2 audio tracks and 1 subtitle tracks

[18:44:33] Preparing authoring information...
[18:44:33] Creating NTSC top menu.
[18:44:33] Setting pop-up menu...
[18:44:34] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[18:44:34] *** [00001.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu...
[18:44:34] *** Completed!
[18:44:34] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[18:44:36] Creating title thumbnails for 2 titles (XMB)...
[18:45:37] Failed to extract title thumbnail for title #1.
[18:45:37] Using 37 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[18:45:37] *** Extracting 37 chapter thumbnails...
[18:46:46] Using user defined title image at 0 sec (00:00:00.000) for title #2!
[18:47:47] Using 37 thumbnail/chapter links for title #2...
[18:47:47] *** Extracting 37 chapter thumbnails...
[18:48:56] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[18:48:56] Preparing menu pages...
[18:48:56] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/2].
[18:49:06] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [1/4].
[18:49:09] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [2/4].
[18:49:12] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [3/4].
[18:49:16] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [4/4].
[18:49:18] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/2].
[18:49:22] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [1/4].
[18:49:26] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [2/4].
[18:49:29] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [3/4].
[18:49:32] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [4/4].
[18:49:35] Menu authoring completed.

[18:49:35] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[18:49:39] Authoring welcome screen (NTSC).
[18:49:39] Encoding welcome screen...
[18:49:48] Authoring welcome screen completed.
[18:49:48] Setting main menu for 2 titles...
[18:49:48] Go to menu after last title.
[18:49:48] Setting menu properties...
[18:49:48] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[18:49:48] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[18:49:48] Completed.
[18:49:48] Setting Blu-ray format...
[18:49:50] Done!

[18:49:51] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[18:49:51] G:\AVCHD-20100204-181841\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)
Name : CORALINE 2D/3D_BR
===============================================================================
1. CORALINE 2D INGLES/PORT [01:40:34]
2. CORALINE 3D INGLES/PORT [01:40:35]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 03:21:09
Output size : 31621 MiB (30.88 GiB)

[18:49:51] G:\AVCHD-20100204-181841 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[18:49:51] Burn its CONTENTS to BD-R/RE UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[18:49:52] You may now remove temp folder (G:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100204\).
[18:49:52] Your compilation contains 3hrs 21min 9sec of video material.

[18:49:52] multiAVCHD finished in 1871 seconds (00:31:11)!

[18:49:52] End of log.

jefrey

5th February 2010, 00:04

Heyy deank,
would it be possible to Add a deinterlacing option? i've found some old dvds and they are all interlaced= EncodingQ looks like crap :( after ive done an avchd backup of it

deank

5th February 2010, 00:16

there is one but it assumes tff. i'll add detection to properly deinterlace bff sources.

alimao

5th February 2010, 01:46

is something very wrong. avi files can produce animated menu. m2ts file not! screen is black! any solution?
already changed all the codecs of the machine

jefrey

5th February 2010, 02:25

thx man :)

and what plugin would you use/prefer for deinterlacing? Yadif or a simple one instead

cwh060

5th February 2010, 03:40

Success. XMB and Slide

TO ALL: If you can't get the motion menu working it means that for some reason your PC can't properly decode each title's m2ts files and convert segments of them to h.264/avc with x264.

Here is what I did.

Removed, Haali, FFDshow, AVSSynth 2.8, multiAVCHD, cleaned up all extra files. Restarted Ran CC cleaner, removed left over files, restarted again. Downloaded everything and started from scratch. Installed everything back.

I suspect it was actually x264, even though I thought it was the latest. Downloading multiAVCHD again reinstalled the proper one. The clue was forcing a transcode, X264 would halt part way through, if it processed anything longer than 5mins.

:thanks:

cwh

alimao

5th February 2010, 05:10

Success. XMB and Slide

Here is what I did.

Removed, Haali, FFDshow, AVSSynth 2.8, multiAVCHD, cleaned up all extra files. Restarted Ran CC cleaner, removed left over files, restarted again. Downloaded everything and started from scratch. Installed everything back.

I suspect it was actually x264, even though I thought it was the latest. Downloading multiAVCHD again reinstalled the proper one. The clue was forcing a transcode, X264 would halt part way through, if it processed anything longer than 5mins.

:thanks:

cwh

I did. now tested mkv, m2ts several movies, encode perfect. a movie that I did not ta going down and get this error. when I edit it
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2717/new2i.jpg

any solution?

Ghitulescu

5th February 2010, 09:18

any solution?
Não tenho certeza se todas as pessoas envolvidas neste projeto sabem Português :p

deank

5th February 2010, 10:25

The updated build (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) now supports pop-up menu for 720p and 1080p. I'll appreciate if someone can test if 720p is properly shown in regular SAP players (DLynch?). Playstation 3 works with both perfectly :)

(480p popup is added, too)

[14:04:53] Preparing authoring information...
[14:04:53] Creating NTSC top menu.
[14:04:53] Setting pop-up menu...
[14:04:56] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [1080p]...
[14:04:56] *** [00001.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [480p]...
[14:04:56] *** [00002.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [720p]...
[14:04:56] *** Completed!

*** edit: I just tested with 480p pop-up and it works in PS3, too. The quality of the pop-up is comparable to 720p and 1080p. If pop-up menus with different resolutions are not needed for standard players, but for Playstation3 only, then I'll make multiAVCHD select the proper one only when using [Playstation 3] button.

rd001

5th February 2010, 13:07

I don't know ALL players. PS3 will switch to 720p and it is not visible. Anyway, I prepared 720p pop-up menu to be used with 1280x720p titles, so it will be okay.
Now I'm getting seriously tempted to give the RC a test drive.

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 13:10

I wanted to test it, but there's a problem ; my player (Panasonic BD35) doesn't want to play the disc ! It's an Avchd (dvd, not BD) and it's the 1st time I have this problem.
I had already burnt these files with an older version of Multiavchd and there was no problem.
Another problem (maybe logical) : I chose some big files (1080p) which are on a partition nearly full, and there were not accepted by MultiAVCHD because of a problem of codec. But as for the other files, I had already burnt these files with an older version of Multiavchd and there was no problem. I was in front of my pc during the process and I saw that there was no place anymore on this partition (2 Mo !), thus I believe that these files were rejected because of a lack of space on the partition where they were. If that's the reason, I didn't know that Multiavchd needed place in the partition of the files because the temp folder is in another partition with enough space.
I chose 5 files : 2 in 1080p, 1 in 720p, 1 in 480i, and 1 in 576i (to test the pop-up menu on all resolutions).
After the rejection of the 1080p files, I've seen in the log that the pop-up menu resolution was 720p.
Last thing : i saw in the log that my PAL file was slowed-down for the NTSC compatibility. Usually, i can put all resolutions on the same disc without any transcoding. And "auto set transcode for non-compliant titles" was unchecked.
But my player cannot play this disc, i don't know why.

deank

5th February 2010, 13:16

Now I'm getting seriously tempted to give the RC a test drive.

:) 1080p, 720p and 480p pop-up menus will now appear for different resolutions. (the .rar is updated again... there was a bug when importing old compilations, which already have pop-up menu, but m2ts files were not transferred).

I wanted to test it, but there's a problem...

I'm sorry but this is no way to test... 100s of problems with your settings won't help me at all.

1st: Select the proper TV system in AUTHOR TAB.
2nd: what is this 'multiAVCHD rejected my 1080p files'...

Dean

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 14:22

1st: Select the proper TV system in AUTHOR TAB.
2nd: what is this 'multiAVCHD rejected my 1080p files'...
1)I chose Ntsc because on 5 files, 4 are in 23.976 or 29.97 fps, and 1 is in 25 fps. As I said, I can usually mix files with different fps (23.976, 25, 29.97) and MultiAVCHD doesn't transcode any file and there's only a warning to prevent a potential problem with the player that could crash because of the mix of 50 and 60 hz on the same compilation, but I do it anyway because my player switch without problem between 50 and 60 hz.
But today, the Pal file was converted to Ntsc.

2)I mean that he kept only 3 files on 5 during the authoring process.

this is no way to test
I don't understand, you said earlier that you wanted us to test this new version, that's what I tried to help you.

deank

5th February 2010, 14:44

1) Please use PAL TV system.

When PAL is selected, multiAVCHD will not do any speedup and you can have the mix untouched (unless you enable [x] Apply PAL speedup for NTSC content).

2) Because you're doing/reporting things that are not related to the new options in multiAVCHD.

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 15:32

you're doing/reporting things that are not related to the new options in multiAVCHD.
I just want to test your pop-up menu on a standalone player, as you asked above, what should I do to test it ?
I'll appreciate if someone can test if 720p is properly shown in regular SAP players
Do you mean that we should put only a 720p file on the disc and nothing else ? Because there is a 720p file in my compilation but not only.

I tested again choosing PAL TV system, and my player still can't play the disc. I never had this problem before. He sees well it's an AVCHD, but he can't launch it, he stops. Then i click on play or on top menu, and agin, he can't read it.
I chose AVCHD for optical media and burned it in UDF 2.50.
The only time I had this problem is when I tried the Blu-ray output in place of AVCHD output with TSMuxer. And there was no difference between the two projects : it was the same file without menu in both cases. I believe it means that my player cannot play BD5/9.
Thus I wonder if you are sure that you didn't do anything wrong concerning the AVCHD output for optical media which is maybe outputed as a Blu-ray and not as an AVCHD ?

Good news : As I suggested earlier, the problem with the 1080p files was only due to a lack of space on the partition where they were. I made some space and they are now accepted and outputed.

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 15:58

I tested again with only one file in 720p, no top menu, no title-list menu, just the pop-up menu, and my player still can't play the disc.:confused:

DLynch

5th February 2010, 16:18

The updated build now supports pop-up menu for 720p and 1080p. I'll appreciate if someone can test if 720p is properly shown in regular SAP players (DLynch?). Playstation 3 works with both perfectly :)

I tested this with a static XMB menu. The pop-up displays with 720p video however it is shrunken to about 1/2 the former size and is offset 1/2 way up the display and justified to the left. I think this makes sense since the location roughly corresponds to size of 1280x720 as it relates to 1920x1080. Both my TV and player will upscale to 1080p.

*** edit: I just tested with 480p pop-up and it works in PS3, too. The quality of the pop-up is comparable to 720p and 1080p. If pop-up menus with different resolutions are not needed for standard players, but for Playstation3 only, then I'll make multiAVCHD select the proper one only when using [Playstation 3] button.

I would prefer to have this option PS3 specific. The pop-up looks odd offset as described above.

I would assume that most BluRay players perform upscaling to 1080p but I'm not 100% certain. I also don't know how this might affect playback sticks directly into a TV.

Curiously, I got the Windows No Disk error again even though static menus were selected.

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 16:34

I would assume that most BluRay players perform upscaling to 1080p but I'm not 100% certain.
It depends maybe on the player, because I know a precise example : the Oppo BDP-83 can output several resolutions at the same time without that one must go into its setup. I mean that dvd can be outputed in 480/576 i or p, Blu-ray in 1080 i or p, ... it allows to make the upscale of the dvd with an external scaler without downscaling Blu-ray. And I don't know what he does with AVCHD containing several files with different resolutions.
In my player, there's only one resolution at the same time : if I choose 1080p in the setup, everything (dvd, avchd, blu-ray) will be outputed in 1080p. If I choose 480/576p, everything will be outputed in 480/576p, even Blu-ray ! That's why I chose 1080p.

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 16:47

drelin

5th February 2010, 17:09

After some compliation tests with 730 build,
few remarks :

1- IF font size used for "play / setup / chapter / title list" labels is changed the according buttons are not aligned correctly.

2- Atually for RC build, the motion menus are only created with extraction sample of title video. With the final version can we choose a custom video and audio for each title (in title properties like as "image poster" option).

3- What is the original values for Chapter menu (x/y) for center position ?

4- for the "chapter buttons" opacity, can you fix the opacity value without relation with the other button ?

deank

5th February 2010, 17:27

I came back to build 729 to make a test, and it worked perfectly ! It proves that there is no problem with my disc-burner-player.
There is probably a problem in build 730 with the AVCHD output for optical media.

Did you use files or existing compilation? Also - try with disabled [-] Add popup menu.

After some compliation tests with 730 build,
few remarks :

1- IF font size used for "play / setup / chapter / title list" labels is changed the according buttons are not aligned correctly.

2- Atually for RC build, the motion menus are only created with extraction sample of title video. With the final version can we choose a custom video and audio for each title (in title properties like as "image poster" option).

3- What is the original values for Chapter menu (x/y) for center position ?

4- for the "chapter buttons" opacity, can you fix the opacity value without relation with the other button ?

2) I hope so

3) the coordinates for all buttons are just coordinates... i can't understand what users are asking for really... 1-1920/1-1080... the default it is (453, 720), so you can change the coordinates in MENU/General and see for your self.

4) No

***

Latest .rar has the popup generated in 1080p, except when Playstation3 output is used.
There is [x] Shutdown when finished option in the window for output selection (the one after you press START).

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_output.jpg

Dean

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 17:58

Did you use files or existing compilation?
Files.
Also - try with disabled [-] Add popup menu.
Ok, i'll try with disabled pop-up menu.
Do you prefer that I put a top menu or it's not important for this test ?

alimao

5th February 2010, 17:59

I do not know if it's a bug or a beta multiavchd.
but I found my problem. was because the movie was not in H264 but VC1
the same movie converted pra h264 animated menus work

deank

5th February 2010, 18:09

Files.

Ok, i'll try with disabled pop-up menu.
Do you prefer that I put a top menu or it's not important for this test ?

Try without a menu first and without pop-up... if it works, try with a menu. pop-up is not supported in AVCHD anyway.

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 18:18

I tested without any menu before seeing your response and it works, the video is played ! I will also test with top menu but without pop-up menu.

pop-up is not supported in AVCHD anyway
Oooh, it's a pity, I hadn't understood that.

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 18:49

It didn't work either with only a top menu.
Thus it only works without any menu in AVCHD for optical media mode with build 730 (in any case on my player).

DLynch

5th February 2010, 18:52

pop-up is not supported in AVCHD anyway.

It does appear to work in AVCHD. All my tests have been AVCHD not BR.:confused:

Music Fan

5th February 2010, 18:53

It does appear to work in AVCHD. All my tests have been AVCHD not BR.:confused:
Which player do you have ?
Mine is a Panasonic BD35.

deank

5th February 2010, 19:18

It does appear to work in AVCHD. All my tests have been AVCHD not BR.:confused:

AVCHD is not the same as 'using DVD media'. + the sony player you have plays virtually everything (almost like the PS3 does).

Which player do you have ?
Mine is a Panasonic BD35.

I did a lot for all the Panasonic users around the world already (with all the specific things required for these players to play off of SDHC) and if anyone reported earlier that 730RC it is not working probably I would've never started with the motion menu. I posted samples few weeks ago...

I guess Panasonic users which burn to DVD and want menu would have to stick with version 3.0.729. It is a stable and fully operational one.

(late edit: on the other hand I may add back the old in-stream-mux IGS menu so we'd have 100% backwards compatibility... it will take some time and KB space but it is not impossible. I need to have the current test_build version bug-free first)

Version 3.1 (which will probably turn into 4.0) features out-of-mux menu generation, which is much better and compliant (in Blu-ray and Playstation 3 output modes). Panasonic SDHC and Viera (PAL/NTSC) do not support menu anyway, so it leaves out the output for "AVCHD compatible players". Most should work with the new menu-muxing technique... Panasonic seems not be among them.

Dean

deank

6th February 2010, 01:29

4- for the "chapter buttons" opacity, can you fix the opacity value without relation with the other button ?

I'm sorry, but I was overwhelmed and answered while thinking of something else.

Yes, one can change the color and opacity for all pages individually (main/top menu, title list menu, chapters menu and setup/audio/subtitle menu). As I posted few days ago, I'm trying to add all the features and then I'll work on the GUI - there you'll have the things you asked for.

Dean

Music Fan

6th February 2010, 10:55

I made two other tests with v730 checking the "skip top menu" button ;
-it works with only a top menu (the first title is played and also the others) but of course, my player stops when I click on "top menu" on my remote
-it doesn't work at all when I add a pop-up menu.
It looks logical.

drelin

6th February 2010, 12:30

I'm sorry, but I was overwhelmed and answered while thinking of something else.

Yes, one can change the color and opacity for all pages individually (main/top menu, title list menu, chapters menu and setup/audio/subtitle menu). As I posted few days ago, I'm trying to add all the features and then I'll work on the GUI - there you'll have the things you asked for.

Dean

Thank for the answer, it's great.

I'll make few others test with this RC build to test players compatibility and wait the final version for test all authoring functions and return reviews.

Last question about elements coordinates (x/y) values :
For each element, what is the original "zero" point value ?
- It's the center (960;540px) of the 1920x1080 srceen reference ?
- Or 0;0px (topleft corner) ?

N.B : I ask this question because, is more easy for users to create custom menu background in graphic editor (like photoshop)

THX

deank

6th February 2010, 12:44

Chapter menu and button coordinates are absolute values (not an offset) - I decided that it will be easier when creating backgrounds in external programs not to use relative numbers.

The offset for the main title thumbnail is relative to the centered placement, which is not the default in XMB (you can see that the thumbs and the texts are in the center of the area, not to the left as they were before). If you change the offset for the main title it will affect the button coordinates, too.

deank

6th February 2010, 18:50

The updated (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar)archive with the test build now has the option to [x] hide "SETUP", "CHAPTERS" and "TITLE LIST" buttons. If you hide a button, but the corresponding page (chapter or title-list menu) is generated you'll still be able to access it via the POP-UP menu.

Also if chapters or title-list menu is not generated, the buttons will not be present.

...and there is a new option [x] Create audio/subtitle setup pages in MENU/GENERAL tab, but it is not fully working yet (the page is half-generated and the navigation is not ready).

Dean

Music Fan

6th February 2010, 19:01

If I have well understood, the menues won't work on Panasonic players yet ?

deank

6th February 2010, 19:04

Not when burning to DVD anyway. I'm not sure when/if I'll add back the in-mux menu, but I'll post about it. And it would be static/silent.

BeNooL

7th February 2010, 10:13

I tested and confirm the popup menu is showing fine on an Oppo BDP-83.

Music Fan

7th February 2010, 10:21

Did you test with Blu-Ray or AVCHD export ?
A test of the pop-up menu on a 480i/p (or 576i/p) video would be very nice. ;) I mean without upscaling, to see what happens.

deank

7th February 2010, 15:20

The setup page for audio/subtitles is ready... It slides from right to center of the screen while fades in :) This page allows selection of the first 6 audio tracks and first 5 subtitle tracks.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_as-setup.jpg

I'll update the .rar a bit later.

jefrey

7th February 2010, 15:31

Very Nice:)

deank

7th February 2010, 19:21

I updated (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) the archive with the latest build.

Both audio and subtitle selection work properly.

This was the last addition to the new version and now we have all the pages I planned from the beginning: MAINx252, CHAPTERSx8, SETUP, TITLE LIST MENUx21 and POP-UP menu.

Have fun!

Dean

p.s. It is worth mentioning that it happened EXACTLY one year after I succeeded with the first simple classic menu in multiAVCHD :) I'm really proud of what we've accomplished for just one year - me and you - all the people with ideas and all the testers.

bebolan

7th February 2010, 19:33

Hi, deank, Thanks for your work first.
Would you tell me how to add border in MultiAVCHD?
sorry, and thanks for your answer.

crl2007

7th February 2010, 21:06

An outstanding work . A great application and free nonetheless. Thx for all your great work.

rendez2k

7th February 2010, 22:47

Hi, deank, Thanks for your work first.
Would you tell me how to add border in MultiAVCHD?

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u175/bebolan/multiAVCHD-016.png

I think you need to change the re-size method to the next one down (not sure what the word in brackets is after the resolution?).

I just have the "auto set transcode for non-complaint titles" set in the options. Appears to work great!

Edit: Forgot to add - latest update is looking great! A year of work well spent in my opinion! Heres to the next year :-)

jj666

8th February 2010, 01:11

Hi, deank, Thanks for your work first.
Would you tell me how to add border in MultiAVCHD?

You should only discuss material you've encoded yourself on the forum - that's clearly a rule #6 violation.

Dean: I have produced quite some disks (mainly old HD-DVD's to Bluray) with build 729 for playback on the Popcornhour C-200 (folder structure). All disks are playing back excellently! Thanks for the great program - eagerly awaiting the "final" version with your above additions - unfortunately, I've not had enough free time to try the betas.

Cheers,

-jj-

deank

8th February 2010, 12:36

A quick update with some nice features:

* You can now load your own background audio for the menu. Supported formats: AC3, DTS, WAV, LPCM, MP2, MP3, FLAC. Audio will be cut to 32 seconds if longer. AC3 and DTS are not processed but added as is, other formats are converted to AC3 with bitrate set in Audio&Subtitles tab: Non-HD audio to AC3 bitrate [].

* Hidden titles now work properly with the new menus and in title-list menu.

* [x] Motion Title Thumbnail setting is independent from the menu style, which means that you can have all four combinations:

- motion background + motion title thumb
- motion background + static title thumb
- static background + motion title thumb (much like the PS3 video menu) - this is the one that wasn't available until now
- static background + static title thumb

Dean :)

drelin

8th February 2010, 13:06

Hello,

I've just made a test with last RC build and addition of "audio setup menu".
Project :
one Title video with 2 audio tracks (french and english) and 2 subtitles tracks (undefined for inserts subtitles and french)

About "audio ans subtitles" selection :
Navigation menu works fine but after selection of audio & subtitles tracks, playback play always the first audio and first subtitles tracks.
The selections in audio menu are not use during the playback.

With audio & subtitles selections, a resume fonuction for playback is needed for playback button. Actually the action for this button is only "play at the fistr chapter entry".
I don't know if it a "bug", function not yet activated in RC build or a limitation.

About navigation in "title menu" :
The navigation for "PLAY" and "SETUP" is left-right but for "SETUP" and "CHAPTER" is up-down ?
N.B : the titlte list menu is not activated for this test project.
A idea for navigation like as :
1 for PLAY / 2 for SETUP / 3 for CHAPTER / 4 for TITLE LIST

for horizontal moves :
4/1/2 1/2/3 2/3/4 3/4/1
sames for Vertical moves (in vertcial of course):

I've just saw a new update is aviable with backgorund audio, I think that the next step is for custom video background ? :)

deank

8th February 2010, 13:15

Audio/subtitle change works for sure... I don't know when did you download the archive, but it was fixed yesterday. It works in Nero, TMT and Playstation3.

RESUME is not available (at least not at the moment), but you can always start from a chapter in the chapters menu.

About the navigation: it is as simple as this:

PLAY button is the main navigational button for scrolling thru the titles.

In vertical menu (XMB) UP and DOWN are reserved for scrolling. To get to the other buttons you use LEFT and then select the one you need. There is NO other way.

The same for horizontal (SLIDE): LEFT and RIGHT are reserved for scrolling. DOWN/UP to go to the other buttons.

Background video may be available later this week.

Dean

drelin

8th February 2010, 13:16

Thank for precisions.

Addittion about navigation :

I've forgotten that in original navigation the xmb style is designed for more that one title and navigation inclued the "title thumbnail" navigation.

Can you just activate a option for one title with navigation suggested in previous post.

And one time yet, sorry if my english bad.

deank

8th February 2010, 13:43

zoner

8th February 2010, 14:09

drelin

8th February 2010, 14:17

I'll think about one-title compilations.

Make sure you download the updated (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) archive before your next test with audio/subtitle setup menu.

What player do you test with?

*** Also there is a fix for the pop-up menu, if loading existing compilations, which were in different format (for example loading PS3 compilation to convert it to blu-ray/avchd-dvd).

I've made quick playback tests with PowerDVD 7.3 (with HDD source to play BDVM structure).
This evening I'll make tests on standalone players (PIONEER & SONY) with AVCD on DVD and BDVM on BD-RE.

Thank.

deank

8th February 2010, 14:20

hi deank, i was wondering if you can make a tamplate menu for Main Movie + Extras for bluray rips, my dad is not so much the tech guy and i couldnt make a decent understandable menu...

or maybe instead make it selectable of title list not to be played first but let it go for the movie..

There is an option "[x] Skip top menu playback"... and your player will start with the movie.

If you want, you can make "TITLE LIST MENU" only... It is the easiest way to navigate your rips.

rendez2k

8th February 2010, 14:40

Good work on the new update! I know I've asked this before, but what size does the background image (or even background video if we get that option!) need to be?

deank

8th February 2010, 14:49

Whatever the resolution is it will be resized to 1920x1080.

zoner

8th February 2010, 15:50

this option is grayed-out when choosing TITLE-LIST menu :)

deank

8th February 2010, 16:30

Download the updated (http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar)build - it won't be greyed-out anymore.

This build also features:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_general.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_misc.jpg

As you can see, you now have options to chose the position of the AUDIO/SUBTITLE selection box (Setup menu top/left x/y). It will slide to the coordinates you set.

Also :) you can select your own background video file to be used for motion menu background. Supported formats: MKV, M2TS, MTS, TS.

At the moment the video will be processed as before - with fadein/fadeouts. :)

Once I'm ready with the option-window in "TITLE PROPERTIES" (button [more]) you'll be able to select custom audio and video for each title individually + some other things.

Dean

Music Fan

8th February 2010, 17:27

I have two problems with an AVCHD burned on dvd made with build 729 ;
1)With a m2ts file including Dolby True HD audio, my receiver has a big problem with the sound (except when I keep only the core) : it's well detected as True HD (my receiver is of course True HD compatible otherwise I wouldn't talk about that), but it's inaudible because it's cut every second : the sound appears and disappears nonstop.
Its peak bitrate is 5844 kbps (according to TSMuxer).
I don't have this problem with the True HD of my Blu-ray discs.
I believed it was probably due to the high bitrate 1080p video (15 Mbps, not so high), but even with the video transcoded (with MeGui) in 720p @ 3000 kbps, the problem persisted.
It was the first time I tried True HD on an AVCHD.

2)Something else new for me : I tried the transcoding option (before doing it with MeGui) and after a few minutes, only 1 or 2 percent were done, while I chose 720p @ 3000 kbps in 1 pass turbo mode.:confused:

deank

8th February 2010, 17:32

1) Overall bitrates >14000 may fail with DVD discs.

2) What did you expect? Full re-encoding of a movie would usually take 1-2 hours.

Music Fan

8th February 2010, 17:48

1)As I said, even transcoded in 720p @ 3000 k + 5844 k for the sound, it makes 8844 kbps, and I have no problem with some files with much higher bitrate.

2)This file lasts 1 minutes 30" ! It's not a movie, just a very short demo.

deank

8th February 2010, 18:26

1) Well HD audio is not supported in AVCHD as you already may know

2) You didn't say it is a short sample. If you enable [x] Show spawned tools.... option you will see what x264 is doing and why it is taking so long.

Dean

deank

8th February 2010, 18:32

The PGS order tab is now available both in normal and re-author modes:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_pgsorder.jpg

It should allow user to re-arrange the subtitle track order. Until now the order was internal+external or external+internal.

Quite a productive day today (added-features -wise) :)

Dean

Music Fan

8th February 2010, 19:11

1) Well HD audio is not supported in AVCHD as you already may know
Yes, on the "normal" AVCHD, but I believed yours was a kind of "mix" between AVCHD and Blu-Ray structure which allows nearly Blu-ray stuffs with some restrictions (no Java menu, no PIP, lower maximal bitrate, ...).
I didn't know that HD audio was one of these restrictions.
A few weeks ago, you spoke about audio compilations with True HD audio, but the guy who tested it successfully had maybe exported his project in BD mode and not AVCHD.

2) You didn't say it is a short sample. If you enable [x] Show spawned tools.... option you will see what x264 is doing and why it is taking so long.
Ok, thanks.
It's weird because with MeGui, which also uses x264, it's much faster.

deank

8th February 2010, 19:25

I don't have problems with AVCHD and DTS-HD or TrueHD in my Playstation3 (using external HDD). It doesn't mean anything, but AVCHD is a standard and it comes with restrictions. Your problem seems to refer not to inability to play the structure, but a problem with the equipment: bad DVD burn, bad DVD-R blank, bad optical cable/connection to your AV receiver, Panasonic BD35 inability to send HD audio when detects AVCHD... I just don't know.

rendez2k

8th February 2010, 19:34

* [x] Motion Title Thumbnail setting is independent from the menu style, which means that you can have all four combinations:

- motion background + motion title thumb
- motion background + static title thumb
- static background + motion title thumb (much like the PS3 video menu) - this is the one that wasn't available until now
- static background + static title thumb

Dean :)

How do you get these combinations to work? Think I'm being a little dim!

deank

8th February 2010, 19:37

* Motion background is defined by the Default menu style: [static/motion] in MENU/General tab.

* Motion thumbnail is defined by the checkbox [x] Motion title thumbnail in MENU/Misc tab.

rendez2k

8th February 2010, 19:40

* Motion background is defined by the Default menu style: [static/motion] in MENU/General tab.

* Motion thumbnail is defined by the checkbox [x] Motion title thumbnail in MENU/Misc tab.

Brilliant - it was the "Motion background is defined by the Default menu style: [static/motion] in MENU/General tab" bit I was missing!

When the video with fades is created for the background, does it pick random segments form the whole video and play them in a random order with fades?

deank

8th February 2010, 19:53

rendez2k

8th February 2010, 20:05

Yes, it splits the movie in 10 equal segments, then uses segments 2 to 9 (to avoid intro spots and ending credits) and THEN uses these 8 segments in order 1 8 2 7 3 6 5 4 :)

I thought it would deliver nice movie cuts without disclosing too much of the actual movie... :) Even if you watched it you'd be surprised by the video sequence.

Dean

Lovely thinking :-)

deank

8th February 2010, 20:28

Yep... it is what makes multiAVCHD a lovely application... There are a lot of such things hidden in multiAVCHD when using the labels 'default' or 'auto' :)

***

Sadly there are not so many test-reports of 730RC build, but in one of the next days I'll publish it as official. I'll try to add a 'resume' function for the PLAY button but either way I'll upload it as new major version (probably not 3.1).

Dean

Music Fan

8th February 2010, 20:31

I don't have problems with AVCHD and DTS-HD or TrueHD in my Playstation3 (using external HDD).
Ok, but in this case, why do you say that HD audio is not supported in AVCHD ? :o
When you speak about AVCHD, you should speak about the MultiAVCHD format -we all know that the "real" AVCHD is very restrictive ; no subtitles, no Dts, ...-, because this can cause misunderstandings in our discussion. ;)
I know of course that the "real" AVCHD format supports neither HD audio nor even simple Dts audio, but as I don't have any problem with Dts, I believed that HD formats would be read without problem.
My Panasonic player is probably the cause of the problem.

deank

8th February 2010, 20:38

When I say "AVCHD" I refer to "AVCHD standard". What multiAVCHD produces may sometimes be not compliant to the standard (when using subtitles or DTS or HD audio), but it is up to the user - it is that I made multiAVCHD relaxed. I can always make it strict and I'll avoid bug reports which are not really bugs.

Music Fan

8th February 2010, 20:51

What multiAVCHD produces may sometimes be not compliant to the standard
Of course, and that's why we like and use MultiAVCHD ! ;)

Am I the first to report problem with True HD exported in AVCHD mode ?
Just to know if I'm unlucky.:o

drelin

8th February 2010, 22:28

I've made quick playback tests with PowerDVD 7.3 (with HDD source to play BDVM structure).
This evening I'll make tests on standalone players (PIONEER & SONY) with AVCD on DVD and BDVM on BD-RE.

Thank.

Ok, I've tested playback on DVD (AVCHD output) and BD-RE (BD outpout).
Audio and subtitles track selection work fine.

N.B : With standalone players (like SONY or PIONEER tested in this case) nagivation into differents menu pages are not so quickly like a PS3.
Is not a but to Multiavchd.
For sample, The delay time to acces at setup menu page is 2sec after button validation on SONY player BDP-s350

For this test, I've made a project with one title and without "title menu" creation.
But during playback menu the "tittle list" according button is always displayed (only the button), but acces return to title menu ?

deank

8th February 2010, 22:36

drelin

8th February 2010, 22:46

There is the same 2 seconds delay in NERO... I'll see if I can fix it (TMT and PS3 act differently... In fact ALL players - software/hardware do weird things and it makes my work a nightmare)

About your question about 'title menu' - I can't understand you.

User has four options:

* MAIN/TOP menu
* No MAIN/TOP menu
* MAIN/TOP menu + TITLE LIST menu
* No MAIN/TOP menu and NO TITLE LIST menu

If you don't create MAIN/TOP menu but you have [x] Add title-list menu option enabled, then you'll get the TITLE-LIST menu acting as a MAIN/TOP menu.

What are you trying to accomplish?

*** I re-read your post... I'll check about the "TITLE LIST" label... I did it for "SETUP" and "CHAPTERS" but I think there is no check about the "TITLE LIST" label when no "TITLE LIST" menu is created.

Thank

For more precision :
With only 3 labels created "play" / "setup" / "chapter"
navigation left/right into "play" and "setup" works fine
but if you go to right between "setup" you selected blank button (correpsonding to title list i think) without label;
same result if go to up between "setup".
other button work fine.

I hope that is more clearly than my previous post

rendez2k

8th February 2010, 22:48

With the new motion menu options just about complete, any chance of a more detailed menu preview option? I know some rendering would be required but it's better than having to re-do entire projects

deank

8th February 2010, 22:52

Thank

For more precision :
With only 3 labels created "play" / "setup" / "chapter"
navigation left/right into "play" and "setup" works fine
but if you go to right between "setup" you selected blank button (correpsonding to title list i think) without label;
same result if go to up between "setup".
other button work fine.

I hope that is more clearly than my previous post

When there is no TITLE LIST menu the button won't be available (and the label too). HIDE option hides the label. The other logic (which I'll add) will hide the button, too. May be tomorrow.

With the new motion menu options just about complete, any chance of a more detailed menu preview option? I know some rendering would be required but it's better than having to re-do entire projects

What is it that you can't see in the menu preview, which causes you to re-do the compilations?

rendez2k

8th February 2010, 23:21

What is it that you can't see in the menu preview, which causes you to re-do the compilations?

Well I assume you can't see the motion preview? It would be nice to see how things like the text looks against animated backgrounds, and which background clips have been selected. Maybe just a personal taste things but it helps to minimize any issues. As I say, you could have two options - a quick static preview and a proper rendered version? At the moment, the preview just shows the standard background image - not even a clip from the video.

Edit: Just had an example of this. Made a TV compilation and forgot that the TV episodes had logos in the corner. This ended up over my text on the menu. A quick preview would have shown me this.

deank

8th February 2010, 23:46

rendez2k

8th February 2010, 23:48

I know that a full-featured menu preview would be a nice touch but it will double (if not triple/4ple) the things I need to follow in multiAVCHD. Even at the current stage, menu preview and menu generation are two completely different procedures. 1st depends directly on the input media (files) and 2nd depends on the final mux/compilation.

There is no (easy) way to program what you ask for. It is a setback, but it will cost efforts which can be directed in other directions/features.

Dean

I'm no expert by any means, but couldn't you just run the menu generation part then preview the resulting video in say media player classic (or even just save it to the desktop and the let user check?). Also noticed that if I change the co-ordinates of say the play button that these aren't updated on the preview. I wasn't expecting full navigation - just an indication of how things are looking really.

deank

8th February 2010, 23:53

All coordinates are applied to the preview. Probably you didn't enable [x] Apply button position settings option in MENU/Misc. Please take time to examine all the options I gave you.

The coordinate values are default for XMB menu and are not applied unless you tick the box I mentioned. The LABELS and the [x] hide options are applied when you change them, but not the coordinates (it is designed to work that way in case the user plays with the settings without paying attention what he is doing).

rendez2k

8th February 2010, 23:56

drelin

9th February 2010, 00:36

Few requests when you'll work for one title authoring :

- A option to make totaly transparent the square background for the audio and chapter menu page.
With this option, we can use a custom (static image) background.

- A main menu with only PLAY SETUP and CHATPER button access with horizontal or vertical navigation (like as discusssion in previous post)

That all, but only when you can have time for work on it :)

- a option for use custom backoground (static or video with audio) for audio menu and chapter menu

deank

9th February 2010, 00:45

How would you know what you select with fully transparent selection box?

***

As I said, the [more] button in TITLE PROPERTIES will let you do whatever you want with all the pages (main/subtitle/chapters).

I was hoping for more feedback to proceed further, but as I said I'll do it anyway.

Dean

*** p.s. I'm always amazed by the menu pages you create and they inspire me to add features in multiAVCHD, so if you can - please illustrate what you expect as a final result. It helps me a lot. I'm a good programmer and a bad designer as most of you already noticed. :)

drelin

9th February 2010, 02:43

drelin

9th February 2010, 12:32

Hello,
See sample for explain a custom presentation for audio and chapter menu pages (without the square background)

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2853/chaptersample.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8251/audiosample.jpg

For audio menu, can you provide same option as chapter menu page for "coordinate values" ?

And additional question about the graphic type of button :

With this new version, you've change the original button "arrow" by square and if I remember ours previuos posts, you said that you don't any solution for muxing (or create) IGS in m2ts to customize the button (like a frame arround chapter picture for example). It is right ?

How can you create the actually button ? You use a ready m2ts create by other software (like NERO vision) ?
in this case, if I'll provide you m2ts with other graphic buttons (like as frame for chapter) all ready muxed, that can help you ?

If I right about this point, tell me characteritics you need.

deank

9th February 2010, 12:37

You have the option for X/Y of the audio/subtitle setup in MENU/General (default 640, 530).

The "RESUME" function of the PLAY button is ready. It is activated if user quits the movie from the POP-UP menu with "TITLE MENU" button. Then one can change the options in SETUP and resume the playback from the last chapter played.

drelin

9th February 2010, 12:43

Thank you

The sample are clear for explain the transparency of "square background" with these samples ?

deank

9th February 2010, 13:21

Yes, I do now. I thought you were talking about the navigation square and you were talking about the gray background for chapters and audio/subtitles.

I'll add 2 options for 'background transparency" for chapter and setup pages.

drelin

9th February 2010, 13:24

Yes, I do now. I thought you were talking about the navigation square and you were talking about the gray background for chapters and audio/subtitles.

Exactly :)

Can you make a option for hide "gray background" ? Edit : I' ve just read your answer up, thank for this again.

And have saw my idea for button or I've made a mistake about this point ?

drelin

9th February 2010, 14:58

With addition to thes options for chapter & audio menu, I've forgotten this :
To make custom menus , is necessary to import a custom background for the 2 menus (a static background jpeg is ideal for quick navigation).

deank

9th February 2010, 15:16

The updated (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) archive has two options/sliders in menu/general tab.

At the moment chapter transparency works properly. Full transparency for the 'setup' box is not possible, but I'll work on it later.

About the custom background... I guess this will be possible in 'title properties' [more]-button settings... not yet available.

DLynch

9th February 2010, 16:46

Just updated to the lastest release.

I trying to run a test of static/motion combinations.

The preview menu button seems to have stopped working. When I click it the program starts trying to compile a menu but quickly completes and never displays the menu.

Another small bug (or change) is that the program doesn't automatically switch to the media tab after loading files. This has been around for all 730 RC's.

With the first test of static pages with motion thumbs I get the following errors in the log for each title)

[10:39:39] Preparing menu pages...
[10:39:39] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/13].
[10:39:42] Cannot detect file size: (D:\multiAVCHD31RC\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100209\20100209-103600-MM001.264)
[10:39:42] Cannot detect file size: (D:\multiAVCHD31RC\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100209\20100209-103600-MM001.264)
[10:39:42] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[10:39:42] Final output may be corrupted!
[10:39:42] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...
[10:39:42] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/13]: Chapter page [1/2].
[10:39:44] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/13]: Chapter page [2/2].
[10:39:47] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/13]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[10:39:48] Cannot detect file size: (D:\multiAVCHD31RC\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100209\20100209-103600-AS001.264)

The net result of this is a disc that has no main menu and starts off with the title list. If you attempt to go to the main menu via the pop-up menu the player seems to hang-up.

A compilation set for static menus with static thumbs results in the following errors for each title.

[11:03:10] Preparing menu pages...
[11:03:10] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/13].
[11:03:10] Cannot detect file size: (D:\multiAVCHD31RC\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100209\20100209-105928-MM001.264)
[11:03:10] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[11:03:10] Final output may be corrupted!

The folder on my drive "D:\multiAVCHD31RC\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100209" is empty! Previous RC's left behind many directories. The drive has 190 GB free.

deank

9th February 2010, 16:49

rendez2k

9th February 2010, 17:24

Just going back to our conversation last night about menu previews, do you think something with just a static frame from the video might be a more realistic possibility?

DLynch

9th February 2010, 17:32

Update again...

If the preview is not working it means that there is a problem with the files... I don't know what...

When you run the compilation you'll get a BOX to play the .AVS script when error occurs. Play the .avs with MPC and report the error.

Updated. Preview still not working.

Error message is:

ImageReader: error 'LifJpeg error' in DeviL library reading file c:\mydata\my videos\dvd labels\penguins_bg3.jpg
(D:\multiAVCHD31RC\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100209\20100209-111739-MM001.avs, line 37)

Line 31 is:

a=ImageSource(imgbg, end = 777, use_DevIL=true).ConvertToRGB24.LanczosResize(1920, 1080)

I will retry with one of your default backgrounds. I have used the above background in previous compilations.

deank

9th February 2010, 17:45

The error is not related to multiAVCHD... There is a problem with this particular jpeg file and its decoding thru avisynth.

DLynch

9th February 2010, 18:02

The error is not related to multiAVCHD... There is a problem with this particular jpeg file and its decoding thru avisynth.

You're right, the file was corrupted. Sorry about that.

A 'good' jpeg results in preview working correctly.

Currently trying another compilation with said good background.

drelin

9th February 2010, 18:13

I've made some tests with news options for menus and the result is great.

Tomorrow, I'll post a link to download a "sample AVHCD" compilation with custom menus (for audio, it will not totally finished linked to the Deank's working process).

Because I use a short video for quick tests (2min 15sec), I don't know if it normal but multivachd create only 8 chapter erntries (and according thumbnails) for 12 chapters at input (created manually in Title proprieties).
Each chater mark at 12 sec (propably to short).

Music Fan

9th February 2010, 19:05

Which player do you have ?
Mine is a Panasonic BD35.
Up.
This was a question addressed to DLynch.;)

deank

9th February 2010, 19:15

He said he uses Sony BDP-3xx - just read his posts.

***

There is a small change in the GUI... There is no LOG tab now, but the log messages are always visible on the right-hand side. I think it is much better this way.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_gui_change2.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_gui_change.jpg

There is now space for the couch and the dog in the TV room :)

rendez2k

9th February 2010, 19:21

Sorry Dean, don't mean to pester you, but did you see my post above regarding the preview?

deank

9th February 2010, 19:24

As you can guess I did, but I already answered that it is not that simple as when put in few words like "simple preview of this and that".

Like most of the feature requests - I have them all on file - and yours is there, too - and I try to implement them when I can (and know how to). Don't worry I'll try to figure something out about yours, too. :)

Dean

rendez2k

9th February 2010, 19:26

DLynch

9th February 2010, 19:55

Up.
This was a question addressed to DLynch.;)

Sony BDP-S350, not certain of the firmware level but it's not the latest.

The error is not related to multiAVCHD... There is a problem with this particular jpeg file and its decoding thru avisynth.

After getting rid of the bad background file, the compilation completed successfully. I'm burning a disc now to check it out.

No more 'Windows - No Disk' errors on this version.

To generate moving thumbnails for 6 titles on a static background took about 1 1/2 hours.

Is that to be expected or is it because I 'm using user defined audio for background? The audio file is 40 seconds long.

[12:03:52] Preparing menu pages...
[12:03:52] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/6].
[12:15:03] User defined menu audio [Theme.ac3].
[12:15:04] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/6]: Chapter page [1/2].
[12:15:18] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/6]: Chapter page [2/2].
[12:15:31] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/6]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[12:15:40] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/6].
[12:31:06] User defined menu audio [Theme.ac3].
[12:31:07] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/6]: Chapter page [1/2].
[12:31:21] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/6]: Chapter page [2/2].
[12:31:34] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/6]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[12:31:44] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/6].
[12:48:00] User defined menu audio [Theme.ac3].
[12:48:01] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/6]: Chapter page [1/2].
[12:48:16] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/6]: Chapter page [2/2].
[12:48:29] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/6]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[12:48:39] Encoding static XMB menu page [4/6].
[13:05:40] User defined menu audio [Theme.ac3].
[13:05:41] Encoding static XMB menu page [4/6]: Chapter page [1/2].
[13:05:56] Encoding static XMB menu page [4/6]: Chapter page [2/2].
[13:06:09] Encoding static XMB menu page [4/6]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[13:06:20] Encoding static XMB menu page [5/6].
[13:21:03] User defined menu audio [Theme.ac3].
[13:21:04] Encoding static XMB menu page [5/6]: Chapter page [1/2].
[13:21:18] Encoding static XMB menu page [5/6]: Chapter page [2/2].
[13:21:31] Encoding static XMB menu page [5/6]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[13:21:41] Encoding static XMB menu page [6/6].
[13:34:45] User defined menu audio [Theme.ac3].
[13:34:46] Encoding static XMB menu page [6/6]: Chapter page [1/2].
[13:35:00] Encoding static XMB menu page [6/6]: Chapter page [2/2].
[13:35:12] Encoding static XMB menu page [6/6]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[13:35:22] Menu authoring completed.

deank

9th February 2010, 20:14

Motion menu takes time to be encoded. I'm having 11 titles done in 1h30mins... It depends on your PC capabilities. Audio has no impact on the speed.

DLynch

9th February 2010, 21:13

There is a small change in the GUI... There is no LOG tab now, but the log messages are always visible on the right-hand side. I think it is much better this way.

Continuing tests with latest RC. Player is Sony BDP-S350.

Static XMB Menu with Motion Thumbs and custom background audio works fine!

Static XMB Menu with Static Thumbs and custom background audio works fine!

In this configuration, the background audio only plays once and doesn't loop.

It does loop when motion thumbs are used. The audio starts playing with the thumb.

Currently compiling the other combinations (Motion menu/static thumbs and motion menu/motion thumbs) and will report back.

Update: audio is an AC3 track.

zoner

9th February 2010, 21:58

just tried motion menu and thumbnails twice, each time with different audio sources, once DTS once MP3, and the same wierd thing accurs, menu starts fine but loops the first 2 secs again and again, this didnt happen when using default background music so i dont know if thats the cause, proccessing produced no error

deank

9th February 2010, 22:15

The problem is with your audio... Program logic is no different when using 'internal'/default and external/user audio files. I did 4 tests with mp3 files and all is a okay.

***

OR the audio file is short...

DLynch

9th February 2010, 22:21

deank

9th February 2010, 22:30

Thank you, D for taking the time to do these tests!

Dean :thanks:

DLynch

10th February 2010, 00:00

Thank you, D for taking the time to do these tests!

Not a problem. I find the software immensely useful.

XMB motion menus with motion thumbnails are working correctly!:D

I think there might be a legacy issue associated with chapters.

In the Media properties, if I select 11 chapters and click Auto, I get 11 chapters. If I select 13 chapters and click Auto, I get 13 chapters.

If I select 12 chapters and press Auto, I get 13 chapters.

I think I remember that the 13th chapter was added automatically in the older releases when chapter thumbnails were limited. Since a chapter page is limited to 12 thumbnails, it would be nice to have a way to get only a single chapter page.

Thanks for all the coding effort!

deank

10th February 2010, 01:15

DLynch

10th February 2010, 01:24

You're right. "12" value had a special meaning (and still has)... The 13th chapter you get is probably added by the option [x] Add auto chapter at title end.

Anyway, there were too many other things to add/work on so this one will be taken into account, too.

Dean :)

I did have the option [x] Add auto chapter at title end selected. I had it selected when I tested the 11 chapter and 13 chapter setups also.

When it is set to 12 chapters and the option is not selected, I get only 12 chapters. If the option is not selected and I ask for 11 chapters, I get 12 and if I ask for 13 chapters, I get 14.

Thanks for putting it on the list.

deank

10th February 2010, 12:15

Those with the problem of 2 seconds looping audio - redownload (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar)the build and try again.

Music Fan

10th February 2010, 12:48

He said he uses Sony BDP-3xx - just read his posts.
Thank you, I didn't see that he wrote it after I asked this question.
But the first part of your sentence was enough.
You are often agressive with me.:(
For a few days, I'm even afraid to ask some questions.:o

deank

10th February 2010, 12:56

:rolleyes: That's not true :)

May be I need to use more smileys :)

drelin

10th February 2010, 13:13

Hello,

Before post a sample BLURAY / AVCHD compilation with news motions menus, I prefer waiting that "transparency option" for Audio menu will be complete.
About Audio menu, It seems that size button is too big to compare the other menus (chapter and main).
When you'll work on audio menu, can you just reduce size like as size used for main menu ?

thank.

deank

10th February 2010, 13:18

No, the buttons (shapes and sizes) will be what they are at the moment.

The transparency for the audio/sub box is such a pain to rewrite... I'll try later.

drelin

10th February 2010, 13:36

No, the buttons (shapes and sizes) will be what they are at the moment.

The transparency for the audio/sub box is such a pain to rewrite... I'll try later.

OK no problem

deank

10th February 2010, 15:22

For a few days, I'm even afraid to ask some questions.:o

:-)

Here is an addition in 730RC which you may find interesting. There is [AVCHD restricted] button, which will produce the 'old-style' static menus (like in pre-730 builds).

The difference is that now the menu is in 1920x1080@23.976p (not interlaced as before). If you have time to test it - let me know. I'll update the archive a bit later.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_output.jpg

Works perfectly in Playstation3 :) as expected. As you can guess, there are no SETUP/CHAPTERS/TITLE-LIST menu pages, no POP-UP menu - just one main top menu.

deank

10th February 2010, 16:31

@drelin: I think it is working now. Use full-transparency for the SETUP bg box and you'll get what you need.

Music Fan

10th February 2010, 16:49

drelin

10th February 2010, 16:53

@drelin: I think it is working now. Use full-transparency for the SETUP bg box and you'll get what you need.

Yes, I've just test and it works fine :)

deank

10th February 2010, 17:00

The restricted AVCHD ... works on my Panasonic ! This option is a good idea ;)
I checked chapter menu pages, XMB, pop-up, title-list and motion menues (everything my player can't recognize) and I finally obtained a static menu. Thus the restricted option is really efficient.
But there is not chapter menu anymore, though it worked with v729.

Something else : is there a (free) program able to play AVCHD on pc ?

You don't need to disable any of the options. With this mode, multiAVCHD will ignore the incompatible settings and will produce the menu properly.

No chapters - you're right... Not at the moment, anyway. As I posted few weeks ago, although all looks like in old builds it is completely re-written... Which means that I need to write the thing about the chapters again for the old menu. I think it is possible to use the existing (new style) chapter page but I'll need to think about it.

*** A bug was fixed when importing .mpls/.MPL files... Now it should work properly.

Dean

DLynch

10th February 2010, 17:09

I came across some strange behaviour with the audio background option.

I am using static XMB menu with static thumbs.

If I set the Background audio to None, I get the following compilation errors.

[10:57:03] Preparing menu pages...
[10:57:03] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/5].
[10:57:18] Failure to mux menu and playlist [00301.mpls]
[10:57:19] Error muxing main menu page #1!
[10:57:19] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/5]: Chapter page [1/1].
[10:57:26] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/5].
[10:57:43] Failure to mux menu and playlist [00302.mpls]
[10:57:43] Error muxing main menu page #2!
[10:57:43] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/5]: Chapter page [1/1].
[10:57:51] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/5].
[10:58:07] Failure to mux menu and playlist [00303.mpls]
[10:58:07] Error muxing main menu page #3!
[10:58:08] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/5]: Chapter page [1/1].
[10:58:15] Encoding static XMB menu page [4/5].
[10:58:32] Failure to mux menu and playlist [00304.mpls]
[10:58:32] Error muxing main menu page #4!
[10:58:32] Encoding static XMB menu page [4/5]: Chapter page [1/1].
[10:58:40] Encoding static XMB menu page [5/5].
[10:58:55] Failure to mux menu and playlist [00305.mpls]
[10:58:55] Error muxing main menu page #5!
[10:58:55] Encoding static XMB menu page [5/5]: Chapter page [1/1].
[10:59:02] Menu authoring completed.

If I select the Background audio to default, the compilation completes successfully.

deank

10th February 2010, 19:15

I came across some strange behaviour with the audio background option.

I am using static XMB menu with static thumbs.

If I set the Background audio to None, I get the following compilation errors.

It is more complicated than it looks... I fixed it so you can re-download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) the archive.

The problem is that if there is NO audio in the main menu the selection in SETUP (audio/subtitles) won't work.. Thus a main menu page must contain as much audio and subtitle tracks as the title it will play...

It is okay now. A blank (64ms) 6ch AC3 is used for a fill-up when 'no audio' is selected.

***

* I completely changed the way .mpls and .MPL playlists are imported. The same procedure as in re-author mode is used. Works perfectly now.
* AVCHD [restricted] mode now has the main/PLAY arrow visible for both SLIDE and CAROUSEL menu styles.
* Carousel menu now supports "Motion background" and "Motion title thumbnail" (no reflection though)

Dean

jefrey

10th February 2010, 23:26

Can you add an option, to add custom x264 settings?
i've testet around with som interlaced anime clips and avchd & my x264 settings @1500er bitrate for a 20min clip...an my own x264 settings looks some steps better that the vhq settings @avchd

and 2nd question- Deinterlacing? have you add something for the solution?

regards jef:)

deank

11th February 2010, 02:11

No option for BFF deinterlacing but I'll get there. About the parameters for x264... I'll see how to implement it. You can always bring a ready-to-use video to multiAVCHD. It's main purpose is authoring, not re-encoding.

***

Now - a feature I already love after I spent 6 hours trying to redo all menu generation/preview in multiAVCHD.

There is a new MENU PREVIEW outlook. It allows you to browse ALL MENU PAGES and now you can see what the final menu page would look like with 95% accuracy :) (title thumbs are for the current title only unless 'poster image' is used). There is full motion-menu preview, too and you can see how it will look like (playing the avisynth script) :)

When you click "MENU PREVIEW" button in MENU tab the preview will show the title selected in "MEDIA" tab (or the 1st one, if no title is selected). This new function allows you to see all menu pages (not just the first one as it was until now). I hope you'll like this change.

Something else (sorry for those of you with low resolution displays) the preview is now in 1280x720 and the realtime preview is in 800x450.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_real_preview.jpg

(Preview works with all media, except imported DVD playlists).

Dean

cwh060

11th February 2010, 12:19

dean,

I get the following error when trying to create a menu preview.

(RT) Invalid array index. Array is empty - Line 12036

Went back to an older verison to make sure it wasn't X264 and it works fine.

cwh

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 12:21

Same error here. Reported on the official forum

drelin

11th February 2010, 12:42

Hello,

I'm working on sample AVCHD with motion menu and custom menus.

I encounter 3 problems :

1- the result of motion menu background with "tweak settings" like as blur / contrast / etc... is very worse comapred to original video background.
I've made some tests with differents values in these settings but the results is allways bad.
After investigation with open the preview avs and after eraze the values accfording to tweak and blur, I've recover the original quality.
=> Can add a option for desactivate the "saturation, Brightness, Contrast and blur" settings in "Menu -Misc" tab ?
see screen capture for illustrate.

BAD result with tweaks
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6516/badgf.jpg

GOOD result without any tweaks
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4986/goodn.jpg

2- The video background imported as 32s during time but after compilation the motion menu generated have only 2sec during time ?

3- Can you add egally a option to desactive the fade in/out for the motion menu.
With a custom video background, it's not good for the loop playback.
I can provide video sample if it needed for more understanding.

Thank.

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 12:45

drelin

11th February 2010, 13:10

I agree with all of the above and good work on the menus! Are the selection squares just the normal ones re-coloured? They look different?

Regarding the background fade in/out it would be good maybe to have an option to run the video as is but just fade in/out at the start (for videos that don't loop!).

In these samples the square buttons are not displayed (because the snapshot can't capture the buttons).
All elements are inclued on the video background imported.

@ Deank
The original video background for illustrate my post (tweaks effects, time result and fade) is avialable at this link :
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ymlmzjwj4x2/mp.mkv

Music Fan

11th February 2010, 13:26

the snapshot can't capture the buttons
How did you do that ? With the "print screen" key of your keyboard or with the capture option of a program ? The print screen key generally works to capture everything we see, even this kind of buttons.

drelin

11th February 2010, 13:37

How did you do that ? With the "print screen" key of your keyboard or with the capture option of a program ? The print screen key generally works to capture everything we see, even this kind of buttons.

I use the "save image" function in MPC (media player classic) to capture at the original size.

deank

11th February 2010, 14:48

deank

11th February 2010, 15:52

Hello,

I'm working on sample AVCHD with motion menu and custom menus.

I encounter 3 problems :...

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_misc.jpg

Three new options are available in MENU/MISC tab.

[x] Do not apply background tweaks - you get the background video untouched

[x] Do not apply trailer cuts - you get the video as is, without applying scene cuts and fade in/outs

[x] Apply in/out fade - to be used with the option above - adds in/out fades for better menu loop appearance.

Dean

zoner

11th February 2010, 15:55

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 15:56

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_misc.jpg

Three new options are available in MENU/MISC tab.

[x] Do not apply background tweaks - you get the background video untouched

[x] Do not apply trailer cuts - you get the video as is, without applying scene cuts and fade in/outs

[x] Apply in/out fade - to be used with the option above - adds in/out fades for better menu loop appearance.

Dean

Dean your amazing - everything we think of gets added! Clearly we need some more challenging ideas :-)

drelin

11th February 2010, 15:56

Thank a lot. :)

I'll try and post the result when I'll can re-download the updated build (I've just a little problem to access at download file).

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 15:59

I assume the background vids are still 32 seconds max? Any longer and they get faded out with new option? And I can't remember - can you have original video audio now?

deank

11th February 2010, 16:05

i still have the same problem as drelin had, while making a motion menu with a custom audio it is always loops for 2 secs...
while using default music however, it works.
I tried it for about 10 times with mp3s dts files and so on, and it happens with all menu types

My tests with XMB menu:

Meny type [motion]
[x] Motion title thumbnail
User audio (ac3): works fine

Meny type [motion]
[-] Motion title thumbnail
User audio (ac3): works fine

***

I think I know what the problem is...

Open your multiAVCHD.ini and go to line 58. Change the value to 3 and try again. What value do you have there? If it works after you change it, re-download the latest version again.

I assume the background vids are still 32 seconds max? Any longer and they get faded out with new option? And I can't remember - can you have original video audio now?

Video and audio are in separate files... Yes 777 frames of video - that's it.

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 16:08

Video and audio are in separate files... Yes 777 frames of video - that's it.

You'd have to re-do the audio I guess anyway to get smooth looping as I assume the fade is only applied to the video and not the audio?

deank

11th February 2010, 16:10

Well that's your job as users... If you want custom video/audio you'll have to prepare them yourself.

The tons of options available already scare all the new users... I don't want it to be this way.

drelin

11th February 2010, 16:21

I've just test the last build.

The options for "tweak" and fade in/out work fine, but not for "Do not apply trailer cut to BG".
During menu creating, I can see that multiavchd read and encode the BG video normally (with the total during time), but after compilation the motin menu run only 2 sec in loop and the m2ts according hav only 1,72MB (2 s during time).

I don't know if I uderstand well : for video background import, the limit of during time exist (allways 30 sec max) or not (motion menu loop depends of BG video duration) ?

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 16:23

The tons of options available already scare all the new users... I don't want it to be this way.

Could you have an option to hide some of the advanced options?

Music Fan

11th February 2010, 16:30

deank

11th February 2010, 16:45

i still have the same problem as drelin had, while making a motion menu with a custom audio it is always loops for 2 secs...
while using default music however, it works.
I tried it for about 10 times with mp3s dts files and so on, and it happens with all menu types

I've just test the last build.

The options for "tweak" and fade in/out work fine, but not for "Do not apply trailer cut to BG".
During menu creating, I can see that multiavchd read and encode the BG video normally (with the total during time), but after compilation the motin menu run only 2 sec in loop and the m2ts according hav only 1,72MB (2 s during time).

I don't know if I uderstand well : for video background import, the limit of during time exist (allways 30 sec max) or not (motion menu loop depends of BG video duration) ?

Ok... it is a bug in tsMuxeR... If asked to cut video+audio to 32nd second it breaks and cuts only 2.400 seconds.

It is fixed, so you'll need to re-download. It now works (after I managed to replicate the problem).

Yes, multiAVCHD will always encode exactly 777 frames which is ~32 seconds.

deank

11th February 2010, 16:47

@ deank : I saw on another forum that the LG BD390 could play the menus created by v730 but can't play the pop-up menus, even when exported in BD mode.
Something weird : even in BD mode, the disc is recognized as AVCHD and not BD.
Thus I believe that there are 3 different cases concerning the v730 ;
-Panasonic : play neither menus nor pop-up menus
-LG : play menus but not pop-up menus
-Sony : play everything

Build 730 produces 100% compliant Blu-ray output when using "Blu-ray" button. I don't know about how players handle it when it is written to DVD - it is for BD-R/RE discs...

I believe it is related to the recording media (DVD/BD-R) and not to multiAVCHD.

zoner

11th February 2010, 16:54

thank you so much, as always :)

deank

11th February 2010, 17:09

Thank a lot. :)

I'll try and post the result when I'll can re-download the updated build (I've just a little problem to access at download file).

There was a left-over 'fade-out' even with the new options. I tested it with your BG and it loops perfectly now.

I'm sorry, but you'll have to download it again.

Make sure you have [-] Apply in/out fade disabled, too.

drelin

11th February 2010, 17:22

Thank.

It's OK now, loop at 32 sec works fine.
I've just a little fad out at the end of video sequence of the menu. I'll check if my original video is just over 32 sec and it's related.

After that, I'm ready for post the sample with the actually features.

When all features will be added and the final version avialable, I'll try to make a complete tutorial / documentation (in french, I'll request to member to make a good translation in english for all) to create custom menus for a One title AVCHD/BLURAY project. :)

THANK for the quick correction. ;)

deank

11th February 2010, 18:10

Here is an interesting find: Playstation3 supports the button-sounds when moving the selection-box in chapters and title-list menus :) when playing from USB.

***

The RC build in the updated (http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar)archive now supports sounds with navigation both for Blu-ray and Playstation 3 (for solid media) output modes.

The sound is controlled by the option in menu/misc:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_misc_sound.jpg

Also a small fix for [static] menu - it was generated 2x32seconds (1min 4seconds) - now back to 32secs.

***

I forgot to mention that the usage of mplayer and its function to extract frames for previewing the current encode/menu creation is rewritten, so no more weird "NO DISC IN DRIVE" errors :) and no more .multiTH folders all over the place (only in TEMP folder). And again multiAVCHD.exe is smaller than a week ago... Almost the size of build 729(just 20KB bigger, despite all the new stuff) with .dat-file half the size, too. :)

drelin

11th February 2010, 18:34

For all users :

You can download a AVCHD sample project for one title movie with :
- Custom Main Motion Menu (video + audio)
- Custom static setup menu for audio and subtitle selection
- Custom static chapters menus (12 chapter marks).

I'll see the actually and next features of Multiavchd.
To make this sample, I've made 3 compilations (1 for motion menu and 2 other for each setup and chapter menu) and I've replaced the m2ts files according to SETUP and CHAPTER menus.
It's just for illustrate the features. In the final version, if I don't make a mistake, the user will can import a separate custom background for each menu page (setup and chapter).

N.B : To provide a small sample, I remove the video title, DON'T activate PLAY button, it's not working.
The thumbnails are not according to the graphic menu presentation, it's not a bug.

Can you burned on the project on DVD-RW ( to save a DVD-R), test the navigation menus (only) on your player and return the result.

Link :
http://www.mediafire.com/file/42od2umdzki/AVCHD.zip

deank

11th February 2010, 18:43

What can I say?! :) Looks great, plays smooth, loops perfectly fine.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_custom_menu_drelin_1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_custom_menu_drelin_2.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_custom_menu_drelin_3.jpg

:)

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I'll try to add preview of the actual navigation-box position - it will make things easier when using custom backgrounds.

Thanks, drelin!

Dean

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 19:02

I know you've done a lot already, but any news on being able to create actual titles for the audio and subtitles, such as comment tracks?

deank

11th February 2010, 19:08

I answered to your request - when I have time I'll do it. Not the most important thing on my list, since there are tons of other things not working properly (like chapter<->thumbnail links in title properties)... I need to clear those first and then go on. Please don't push me, because all this is overwhelming already. :(

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 19:33

drelin

11th February 2010, 20:43

@ Deank

Originally Posted by deank
What can I say?! Looks great, plays smooth, loops perfectly fine.

Thank for look but for "plays smooth" and "loops perfectly fine" : it's your work ;)

If you'll can add preview of navigation box position for menus , I have a request for only audio menu :
A option to hide the text "Audio and subtitle setup" and automatic text for audio track and subtitle track selection.
In this case, we can write with font, color and size wanted directly on custom background and coordinate position with the preview.

Another thing, just for remember is reduce if it's avialable the size of navigation button on audio menu only.
it's not a priority.

Thank you

Monday, I'll try to post for all a little complete AVCHD started to burn with Open source CGI short movie (8 min) "Bick Buck Bunny" with custom authoring mastered by Multiavchd. :)

Music Fan

11th February 2010, 21:14

I did a lot for all the Panasonic users around the world already (with all the specific things required for these players to play off of SDHC) and if anyone reported earlier that 730RC it is not working probably I would've never started with the motion menu. I posted samples few weeks ago...

I guess Panasonic users which burn to DVD and want menu would have to stick with version 3.0.729. It is a stable and fully operational one.

(late edit: on the other hand I may add back the old in-stream-mux IGS menu so we'd have 100% backwards compatibility... it will take some time and KB space but it is not impossible. I need to have the current test_build version bug-free first)

Version 3.1 (which will probably turn into 4.0) features out-of-mux menu generation, which is much better and compliant (in Blu-ray and Playstation 3 output modes). Panasonic SDHC and Viera (PAL/NTSC) do not support menu anyway, so it leaves out the output for "AVCHD compatible players". Most should work with the new menu-muxing technique... Panasonic seems not be among them.

Dean
I read again this message written a few days ago, and I'm not sure to understand it very well.
Did you mean that current Panasonic players will never be able to play the new menus or you meant that it could perhaps be possible if MultiAVCHD was programmed differently ?

And what means in-stream-mux and out-of-mux ?

Sorry if these questions look stupid but it's not so easy to understand when you're not a programmer.:o ;)

deank

11th February 2010, 21:29

Yup, sorry you are quite right as always! I'll shut up now and let you get on with it :-)

I guess this is what you wanted... It is implemented now for AUDIO tracks. There will be no such feature for external SUBTITLE tracks.

Set a name in TITLE PROPERTIES for the audio stream,
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_audio_tp.jpg

and you'll see it in the SETUP box:
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_audio.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_audio-3.jpg

The updated archive is now available for download. There was a bug when NO-MENU + TITLE_LIST menu is created - fixed.

I read again this message written a few days ago, and I'm not sure to understand it very well.
Did you mean that current Panasonic players will never be able to play the new menus or you meant that it could perhaps be possible if MultiAVCHD was programmed differently ?

And what means in-stream-mux and out-of-mux ?

Out-of-mux menu/igs/secondaray audio/PIP are methods employing sub-path mechanism in the playlist files. Such thing is NOT supported by the AVCHD standard as far as I know. It means that any player which defaults to AVCHD mode with DVD media will probably fail to play these new menus. All the files you see which are numbered 9xxxx.m2ts are out-of-mux menu files, which contain only programs (navigation commands) and simple IGS objects (the square and rectangle boxes) for displaying the navigation. Since there is NO muxer available to mux IGS with H.264 into M2TS there was no other way to implement all this, unless I'm using separate (out-of-mux) navigation files.

@drelin: I can't reduce the size of the box. I'll see about the properties of texts in the SETUP box, too.

drelin

11th February 2010, 21:30

@ Deank
Forget for the button size, it's a detail and not important to compare of the other features :)

deank

11th February 2010, 21:41

To add something more:

If an imported file supports meta-data with names for audio-tracks these names will be automatically imported.

deank

11th February 2010, 22:42

Few new things about the menu:

You can now change/remove the labels for all texts (for SETUP and CHAPTER menu pages) in Menu/Menu labels tab. MISC is now ADVANCED and XMB/Slide/Carousel is "EXTENDED" tab:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_misc_2.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_audio-4.jpg

Fonts and colors for the labels will come later the next few days (eventually).

@drelin: You can now clear the fields with the button labels (for header and [X] close) and use directly the custom background for your button-texts. I'll try to add the customization for each menu page (background/audio) tomorrow.

Dean

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 23:30

I guess this is what you wanted... It is implemented now for AUDIO tracks. There will be no such feature for SUBTITLE tracks.

Set a name in TITLE PROPERTIES for the audio stream,
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_audio_tp.jpg

and you'll see it in the SETUP box:
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_audio.jpg

Awesome work Dean. I really didn't expect you to do it tonight! No rush at all, but the same for naming options for subtitles would be excellent (but only eventually!).

rendez2k

11th February 2010, 23:41

It is in fact ready (sorry - but only for INTERNAL audio tracks)... I just wanted to see if you'll read and dismiss my statement that it won't be possible. :)

Well, you just keep outdoing yourself. You tell us things aren't possible then go one better and make them superb! Really, you should sleep more! Good work today!

deank

12th February 2010, 00:08

It is ready (sorry - but only for INTERNAL subtitle tracks) :)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_sub_1.jpg

rendez2k

12th February 2010, 08:50

Internal subs is fine - I think we can just use mkvmerge to put any external subtitles into the video (just testing that theory now).

After testing the menu previews yesterday, it all works great here - my only tiny request (and again, no rush!) is that you add a button to re-randomize the background video. I tested some movies and ended up with segments of titles etc (doesn't look too nice on a menu). But its looking and working great here!

deank

12th February 2010, 11:05

Is that what you mean - to randomize the 'random' order of 1 8 2 7 3 6 5 4?

rendez2k

12th February 2010, 11:08

Is that what you mean - to randomize the 'random' order of 1 8 2 7 3 6 5 4?

I guess so! So, if I don't like the random selection picked, I can just re-randomize. As I say, in my tests I had a few 'bad' selections due to tiles etc.

drelin

12th February 2010, 11:45

Hello,

Just a little problem for "text label" in SETUP menu.
The text for < > X "subtitle OFF" and "Audio and subtitle setup" is correctly undisplayed but the text for audio and subtitles tracks are allways displayed (see picture).

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/303/badtext.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/badtext.jpg/)

Can you add a option for desactive this display ?

Thank.

deank

12th February 2010, 12:11

@drelin: I can make the labels disappear IF the HEADLINE is a blank string.. Just redownload the archive.

@rendez2k:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_misc.jpg

rendez2k

12th February 2010, 12:16

@drelin: I can make the labels disappear IF the HEADLINE is a blank string.. Just redownload the archive.

@rendez2k:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_misc.jpg

Dean, as always you have excelled yourself! Good work!

deank

12th February 2010, 12:34

Can you add a option for desactive this display ?

If you clear the text for "Setup header" entry the tags for audio/subtitle languages won't be displayed.

If there is at least one character - they will be displayed. It means that one can enter 'space' and loose the header, but sill have the labels.

Dean

drelin

12th February 2010, 12:43

If you clear the text for "Setup header" entry the tags for audio/subtitle languages won't be displayed.

If there is at least one character - they will be displayed. It means that one can enter 'space' and loose the header, but sill have the labels.

Dean

Thank all lot for the feature and precission.
Now, I can customise perfectly the SETUP Menu and Chapter Menu.

I've just saw that the shape button and chapter thumbnails are not exactly aligned (centered).
Same thing for shape button "prev" between the 2 other buttons "next" and close. (Prev is little down).
But, it's just a detail.
I'm so "pignoleur" (it's a french expression for a man who wear too much importance to few details) ;)

deank

12th February 2010, 15:35

I've just saw that the shape button and chapter thumbnails are not exactly aligned (centered).
Same thing for shape button "prev" between the 2 other buttons "next" and close. (Prev is little down).

I noticed that, too (about the < button). I can't understand which one in the 'chapter menu'? All thumbs are properly overlapped with the selection box (i'm using frame border 2 pixels).

I'll fix it later.

edit: fixed.

DLynch

12th February 2010, 16:11

With this latest version, static XMB menus with static thumbs seems to be broken.:(

With a project that compiled successfully 2 days ago, I now get.

[09:58:37] Preparing menu pages...
[09:58:37] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/3].
[09:58:41] Cannot detect file size: (D:\multiAVCHD31RC\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100212\20100212-095735-MM001.264)
[09:58:41] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[09:58:49] Final output may be corrupted!
[09:58:49] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...
[09:58:50] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/3]: Chapter page [1/2].
[09:58:57] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/3]: Chapter page [2/2].
[09:59:04] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/3].
[09:59:09] Cannot detect file size: (D:\multiAVCHD31RC\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100212\20100212-095735-MM002.264)
[09:59:09] Error encoding main menu page #2!
[09:59:15] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/3]: Chapter page [1/2].
[09:59:22] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/3]: Chapter page [2/2].
[09:59:30] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/3].
[09:59:34] Cannot detect file size: (D:\multiAVCHD31RC\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100212\20100212-095735-MM003.264)
[09:59:34] Error encoding main menu page #3!
[09:59:41] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/3]: Chapter page [1/2].
[09:59:48] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/3]: Chapter page [2/2].
[09:59:56] Menu authoring completed.

I get the message box asking me to check the AVS file and report back to you. When I click OK MPC shows me the menu I was trying to generate.

It's not a bad jpeg file this time around, I've already checked that. I also tried a project that worked a few days ago.

There used to be a slider for "Frames to Encode" that now seems to be AWOL. I think I had a similar problem in the very early days to the program and you added that slider back then to get around the problem.

deank

12th February 2010, 16:25

I can't understand why certain PC configurations have the problem when avisynth asks x264 to encode just 3 or 6 frames. It is either a broken avisynth or incompatibility between your CPU and x264.

You're right, I changed the setting for frames to encode to 3 (default is 14 I think). Re-download the archive and change line 58 in your .ini file to higher value and let me know what works.

DLynch

12th February 2010, 17:14

You're right, I changed the setting for frames to encode to 3 (default is 14 I think). Re-download the archive and change line 58 in your .ini file to higher value and let me know what works.

7 works!:)

Thanks for the quick response.

I'll check out LinX regarding CPU stability.

Update: When I check in the ini file after a successful compilation, Line 58 reads 14?! Even though I set it to 7.

deank

12th February 2010, 17:38

14 will work too (but probably a bit slower)... I fixed the issue so now it is not possible to set a value <7 - it will default to 7. Re-download if you want.

deank

12th February 2010, 18:00

As you know, [AVCHD strict] button creates menus similar to these in builds up to 729 (static).

What I'm trying to add to 730 is backwards compatibility of some kind, so restricted compilations would have at least the same features as before, such as 12 chapters in chapter-menu page.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_bwc_1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_bwc_2.jpg

With [AVCHD strict] output mode, SETUP and TITLE LIST buttons are removed and CHAPTERS is moved where [SETUP] usually is. Chapter menu page has only [X] close button (no < >).

At the moment these pages are generated, but the main page does not allow navigation to the chapter menu page. I'll let you all know once it is fully functioning.

It *may* be possible to extend the chapter-menu to 8 pages x 12 chapters and get the same features as in new menus introduced in 730... I need to do some tests first (and also Panasonic users). Most probably if it works I may add "SETUP" and "TITLE LIST" to this mode, too.

Dean

Music Fan

12th February 2010, 19:11

Out-of-mux menu/igs/secondaray audio/PIP are methods employing sub-path mechanism in the playlist files. Such thing is NOT supported by the AVCHD standard as far as I know. It means that any player which defaults to AVCHD mode with DVD media will probably fail to play these new menus. All the files you see which are numbered 9xxxx.m2ts are out-of-mux menu files, which contain only programs (navigation commands) and simple IGS objects (the square and rectangle boxes) for displaying the navigation. Since there is NO muxer available to mux IGS with H.264 into M2TS there was no other way to implement all this, unless I'm using separate (out-of-mux) navigation files.
Thanks for this explanation ! :)

Dolsen

13th February 2010, 00:33

Hello, here is a list of bugs I found in multiAVCHD. Sorry if they are already known.

Properties, Chapters: when you type 12 and press "auto" it will not create 12 chapters.
Properties, when you have some chapters, and choose "Skip to previous chapter" it will not work, it skips to wrong time. "Skip to next chapter" works correct.
Properties, drag the timeline max left or right. Nothing happends, no new preview image is created.
Properties, External subtitles, try to add an external subtitle and you get a filebrowser window, and the filename filter is not working correct, it shows all types of files, not just what the filter should allow the filebrowser to show. In this case *.srt *.ssa *.sub *.sup etc...
Properties, type a value in poster field, you want poster-image from 9th second, so you type 9, leave properties with "ok", move mouse pointer over file in medialist, it shows info that poster-image is taken from the 9th second. Reopen properties, the poster-image is not from 9th second, but 9th frame.
Settings, "Delete all files in temp" => It will not delete all the empty folders inside temp.
Visual bug in program, when I start the program, there is a picture-logo of multiAVCHD, when I minimize and reopen it again, there is no longer a logo, just text "multiAVCHD".
Menu, Menu preview -> "Main menu" will only show real poster-image if "motion title thumbnail" is selected.

Bye,
Dolsen

Dolsen

13th February 2010, 00:59

Hello,

Here is a list of different fixes and new features I thought about after testing out your great multiAVCHD for a period. These are just suggestions, nothing more... Your program creates very nice and cool results already, any more features are just huge bonuses. I'm very impressed with how devoted you are in adding features from users, and how quickly you does it. Can not remember seen this sort of user-support in any other programs I have used. I joined forum monday and there was 5 days I had to wait before I could post a reply here. During these 5 days I had to tick off many new features I had on my list, simply because you included those already during the last 5 days! :thanks:

Properties, Preview shows wrong aspect ratio when videoclip has aspect 4:3, its stretched to 16:9. It should preview with correct aspect ratio depending on videoclip in use.

"Open file" window has many fileformat choices, there should be a "all supported fileformats filter" that perhaps is the one selected when you want to add a file, and then you can choose if you only want to show one type of fileformats in the file-browsing window. If you have several different fileformats in same folder that multiAVCHD supports you currently have to select each fileformats in turn. I know you can drag and drop files directly into "Media" in the program, but often I add files within the program.

Media => Also possible to move an item all the way to "Top" or "Bottom", not just "Up" or "Down". If possible, drag and drop line sorting in the file list.

Media => Multi-select in the list of added files, to do possible actions (move/delete) on several at once. Multi-select should work if possible with drag and mark, or click first then shift+click last and ctrl+click to select individual lines in the filelist.

Properties, possible to skip other values forward and backwards, and not just one frame. Perhaps "<5","<1","<F" and "F>","1>","5>" to skip 1 frame/1 second/5 second.

Properties, possible to type a timevalue to jump directly to that time on the timeline.

Properties, a button to jump to the defined poster-position on timeline.

All different x&y values should have each a "Reset" button [R] that would reset selected x&y to same value used with buttons internal in the program when "apply button position settings" is not selected or the "default" values you had programmed in program when you added "Chapter menu" and "Setup menu" position feature. Just so the user could easy reset back to some decent x&y values if doing some wrong choices.

Could all font-selectors use same font-select window with a font preview when you want to select a font? Right now there are two methods used in program to choose font, with a window and with a popup-meny style (like in Menu>Fonts&Colors). Should have been same font-selector in all places...

Subtitles&Audio,Audio Conversion settings => AC3 bitrate fields should not be a type-field but a popup with all allowed bitrates.

There is several places in the program where you can choose language, could it be possible to have an external file that the program preloads during startup that makes it possible to have the language input-field turned into a popup-menu. And if the external file was a text-file, the user could rearrange the order of languages, so each user could put their most used languages at the top lines to easy select those, and not have to every time scroll so much in the popup-menu.

Could it be possible to user-select if user want to see AR info (4:3,16:9,1.85,2.35,etc..) of a title in the title info text?

Properties,"Menu page" and the linked "more" button is currently disabled, I assume the user can do some individual menu settings for each title when it's ready for use? Like enable/disable chapter menu and setting menu? Would it be possible to make the program automatically only add Setting menu or Chapter menu if there are more then one audio/subtitle/chapter in a title? Example: I have 60 titles in my project, and only 2 have extra subtitles/audio and only 3 titles have more then one chapter. With automatic, only 2 titles will have Play+Setting menu, and 3 titles will have Play+Chapter menu and 55 titles would only have Play.

Is it possible to make the Main menu support other aspect ratio and not have all titles posters locked to 16:9? All my titles with 4:3 aspect ratio get stretched to 16:9, should be shown in 4:3 or add black borders left/right and keep 16:9.

Background motion in Main menu stretches all titles into 16:9, even if they are in other aspect ratio. And titles with aspect ratio 2.35 which have black borders will also show black borders in motion background. Could it be possible to make the generated motion background zoom into video to get a correct 16:9 aspect ratio and have black borders removed from those with known and correct aspect ratio? Would this in worst case make the rendering of background motion alot slower? Perhaps make it user-selectable if user want to make faster rendering (stretched aspect ratio and black borders) or slower rendering with correct aspect ratio and black borders removed?

Background motion system supports 777 frames of video/audio. Could it be possible to have a setting to have user-selectable length of the motion? ~32seconds , ~16 seconds and ~8 seconds? It would really help people with slow computer, like myself. Each background motion takes 8-10 minutes on my computer, have a shorter sequence would drastically shorten the creation of the project.

Title menu, that can show many titles at once to select among. Could it be possible to have the thumbnail in other sizes, so the user could place front side of dvd/bluray cover as the thumbnail image? It means there must be a file-field inside Properties of each title, and a switch to choose either the normal title menu, or title menu with user-selectable thumbnails. And perhaps possible to select how many thumbnails pr row and column on each Title menu page.

I have tested the 480p Popup menu, but only with a PAL (576) title on my Playstation3 and it works. But 480p popup menu is not perfectly placed just above the timeline in Playstation3 compared to the popup menu when displayed on a 720p or 1080p output. It's alot higher on the screen, almost in the center of the screen. Also the red line below each item in the 480p popup menu is not as long compared to the popup menu when displayed on a 720p or 1080p output. My Playstion3 system is setup to output NTSC/PAL movies in 480p/576p and not upscaling because I have external videoprosessor to do my upscaling.

Uncrop feature: Is it possible to place the top black border below to have 100% below, and not 50% above and 50% below?

Bye,
Dolsen

Dolsen

13th February 2010, 01:09

Hello,

I have some thoughts about how the user-interface could be some more user-friendly in some parts of the program:

All input-fields should have same background color (in my system it's white). There are some that uses a background color which wrongly tells the user this field is not user-editable. Like input-field in Properties,chapters, the input-field uses a background color that tells me I can not type there, but I really can type there. Same wrong color in "External subtitles" where you define what language subtitle is. There could be more input-fields that has wrong background color. When you select/deselect "Use eac3to" it correctly disable some input-fields, but the background color should not be white color when disabled.

Select-boxes that is unique, like you can only choose either XMB, Slide or Carousel menu should use a select-style like the buttons when you right-click on start menu in Windows, and select properties, and you can choose either to have "start menu" or "classic start menu", that kind of buttons. Is it called radio-buttons?

Many parts of settings should be some "smarter" and enable/disable parts of user-interface when you select/deselect different settings to visual inform the user that "you have to select/deselect" something else to be able to edit something. It might perhaps sort out some of the complexity of the program?

Here are some examples of different relationships, many more relationships exists in the program:

General,"Create chapter" or "Create audio/subtitle pages" = if not selected, all user-inputs in all text-fields related to Chapter and Audio/Subtitle in "Menu buttons" should be disabled. Also x&y values of Chapter and Setup should be disabled. Transparency slider of Chapter and Setup should be blocked too.
Menu buttons,"Apply button position settings" = if not selected, all fields and select-boxes inside "Button positions" should be disabled.
Author,Playback sequence, "Skip welcome screen" = if selected, all fields and select-boxes inside "Welcome screen" should be disabled. *example removed since already does it*
Menu,"Background image" should be disabled if you choose motion menu type. And all other settings both there and in "Advanced" only linked to static image menu should also be disabled. If you choose static menu type, all settings linked only to motion menu type in "Advanced" should be disabled.

Bye,
Dolsen

Dolsen

13th February 2010, 01:20

Hello,

I just want to tell my user experience as new user with multiAVCHD.

I was frustrated how slow preview was in Properties and menu preview when I started using the program, because all previews and creating finished project and menu preview was so sloooooooooooow. I started timing it and found out it was always exactly ~32 second from I wanted to see a preview until the preview was displayed.

Also during creation of project my system was not usable because something was hijacking my focus-point in Windows. No matter how much I clicked nothing happend in other programs. Then I had control for some seconds and lost control again.

Also during creation of project "mx264.exe" sometimes crashed.

I knew something was wrong and I started reading some pages in this forum, and suddenly there was some tips to someone else to enable "Show spawned tools" to debug some other problems that person had. I turned on "show spawned tools", and suddenly I figured out why I had this slowness and lost focus on mouse-clicking and the crashing of "mx264.exe"!

What was it? ffdshow was asking me if "mx264.exe" should use or not use ffdshow, and there was 30 second countdown. I never got asked this question from ffdshow before, only when I turned on "show spawned tools". I choosed that "mx264.exe" always should use ffdshow, and now multiAVCHD is fast again. Preview update takes now just 2seconds, not 32seconds (2second + 30 countdown from ffdshow) like before. Also the strange hijacking of mouse focus-point and crashes of "mx264.exe" was gone.

This should have been informed to new users, when they start using the program, so they don't walk into my start-problems...

Bye,
Dolsen

drelin

13th February 2010, 02:06

Report aobout playback on standalones players :

I've just tested, the AVCHD project made with all actually new options.

On Sony BDP-s350, playback works fine.

On Pioneer BDP-320, Main menu and chapter menu work fine but big problem on SETUP menu only.
The background is displayed but no navigation button is displayed and playback blocks on this stage. No action with remote control is avialable "function is forbigen for this disk" is displayed.
It seems that is difference with SETUP and CHAPTER menu creation process.
Can you check if you'll fix this.

I've tested with some settings for audio menu with / without setup menu transparency and with / without "header labels" text

I think that is not the same problem like as Panasonic player because CHAPTER menu works fine. It's only on SETUP menu.

thank

Music Fan

13th February 2010, 10:17

Did you try the pop-up menu on your Pioneer player ?

drelin

13th February 2010, 11:54

Detail playback result on Pioneer BDP-320 and Sony BDP-s350
With it, I hope that can help Deank to find exactly the problem.
(2 player use the last firmware avialable 3.41/3.44 for Pioneer and 0.20 for Sony)

On Pioneer :
First playback => Main motion menu
Playback loop and navigation works fine

=> Access to video title, works fine
Pop menu correclty displayed and works fine with access to according menu (tested withe chapter menu access)

=> Access to SETUP menu
Static Background is displayed but no navigation button is displayed and all operations with remote control are blocked
(Operation forbiden by the disc).
The player is totally blocked and open tray is needed to deblock player (STOP button on remote control don't work)

=> Acces to CHAPTER menu
Display and navigation work fine.
Chapter access works and return to Main menu works egally.
When player return to motion main menu, the player display a black screen before play the main menu (2sec during time).

On Sony :

First playback => Main motion menu
Playback loop and navigation works fine

=> Access to video title, works fine
Pop menu correclty displayed and works fine with access to according menu (tested withe chapter menu access)
A delay of 4-5 sec before acces to video ttitle.

=> Access to SETUP menu
Display and navigation work fine (track selections work)
Return to motion main menu works but a delay time of 5-6 sec before playing menu.
During this delay, the player display the SETUP menu (no black screen)

=> Acces to CHAPTER menu
Display and navigation work fine.
Chapter access works and return to Main menu works egally.
Same result that SETUP menu when return on main menu.
(5-6 sec delay before acces to main menu)

If I don't care about delay time acces into menus,
the problem is located with SETUP menu creation.
It's seems different that the chapter menu.

deank

13th February 2010, 12:51

Re-download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) the archive and try again in the Pioneer.

drelin

13th February 2010, 13:49

Re-download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) the archive and try again in the Pioneer.

Not work on Pioneer, same problem only with SETUP MENU.
Before access to SETUP menu, a black screen is displayed and background comes with text label but no button or navigation avialable.

:(

Music Fan

13th February 2010, 15:21

I tried the last version (given at 12:51) and there are 3 problems ;
-In relaxed mode (because I updated my player and I was wondering if it could play now the out-of-mux menus) :
1)A bug concerning the creation of the menu happened during the authoring ; I clicked on "yes" in the window that appeared at this moment to send you the report of the error
2)Then the authoring continued and I burned the project on dvd : my player couldn't play the disc, though I chose "skip top menu". It used to work a few days ago. I don't if it's due to the new firmware of my player which avoid to play such a disc, even when top menu skipped, or if it's due to the bug of MultiAVCHD.

-In strict mode :
3)I can't go on the chapters button.

deank

13th February 2010, 15:28

Not work on Pioneer, same problem only with SETUP MENU.

Re-download and try again... If it doesn't work - I really don't know what else to do. I do hope it will be okay.

I tried the last version (given at 12:51) and there are 3 problems ;
-In relaxed mode (because I updated my player and I was wondering if it could play now the out-of-mux menus) :
1)A bug concerning the creation of the menu happened during the authoring ; I clicked on "yes" in the window that appeared at this moment to send you the report of the error
-In strict mode :
3)I can't go on the chapters button.

1) Try a compilation WITHOUT errors... When 1st menu page fails it defaults to title-list menu...

3) Read my post on the previous page. I said that I'm working on it and there is no navigation to the chapter button.

Dean

Music Fan

13th February 2010, 16:31

Ok, but there is so much news these days in this topic, I don't remember everything I read.:o

deank

13th February 2010, 17:57

:)

***

Something I forgot to mention...

It is now possible to load AviSynth scripts in multiAVCHD (*.avs files). There were some users which wanted this feature, so they can use DG-plugins and CUDA for speeding up some avc/vc-1 processing/transcoding.

Let me know if it works (or not) for you.

Scripts must be VIDEO-ONLY and should not contain "return" command. "last" variable must contain the actual output of your script. Still, if you use 'return' it will work, but it will cancel an eventual processing you might have set in "TRANSCODE" window (like resize/blur/uncrop/soften/sharpen/fps change...).

multiAVCHD is a smart :) program so the few things you'll need to do is to change the encoding profile and bitrate in "TRANSCODE" (if you wish) and to add audio/subtitle tracks + chapters.

***

And another note... with this new feature (avisynth scripts) it will be possible to create PICTURE-SLIDESHOW when you import a folder with .JPG/.BMP files. :) I'll add it a bit later... In short: drag a folder with jpg files - a prompt will appear to ask for STILL duration of each picture and whether to resize it to 1920x1080 or keep it's original size (if smaller than 1920x1080) and to randomize the preview order... Probably an option for 'transition' effects, too :) Of course you can add audio track to the slideshow in title-properties. Cool, eh...

Dean
;)

Music Fan

13th February 2010, 19:50

Try a compilation WITHOUT errors...
I tried again, and my player cannot play anymore the disc authored in relaxed mode though I checked skip top menu.
It's probably linked to the new firmware.:rolleyes:
Anyway, it's not important because I could not read the menus of such disks (out-of-mux).

rendez2k

13th February 2010, 20:12

Great work on the new features! Most interested in the CUDA scripts. Can anyone point me in the right direction on this? A sample script maybe?

Dolsen

13th February 2010, 22:10

Hello,

I have a wmv video clip that is "Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile" and contains (info from MediaInfo):

video stream = 9 125 Kbps, 1920*816 (2.35:1) at 25.000 fps, VC-1 (Microsoft) (AP@L3)
audio stream = 384 Kbps, 48.0 KHz, 6 channels, WMA (Pro)

I extracted the video stream with ASF2VC1.exe, and got a .VC1 file.
Also extracted and converted the audio stream to AC3 6 channels file, 640 Kbps.

Then I used tsMuxer to mix VC1 & AC3 files into a .m2ts file. This m2ts file is playable with my Playstation3 both as .m2ts file and as a AVCHD folder (created with tsmuxer) on a usb-stick. MediaInfo gives same videostream info as above, and audiostream info is now AC3 as it should.

Adding this file in multiAVCHD and it tells me the file is not a proper 1920x1080 sized video. That's no problem for me, as my PS3 plays it with no errors.

- If I open Properties, no preview is made. And it says "Video: V_MS/VFW/WVC1". Resolution,duration and fps is correctly identified. The only wrong issue is in Audio, there is listed an unknown external audio, which is not true, and I remove that line in Audio.

- If I open Transcode I don't get a preview, but a message "transcode might not work if you see this message".

- Doing a Main menu preview will not show a menu preview at all, and no errors pops up.

- Rendering a AVCHD folder for Playstation3 makes this error in log "Failed to extract title thumbnail for title".
Also it says it will create chapter thumbnails, but all thumbs are black, but no errors in log. And finally I get this error, but the creation goes all the way to finished. But this AVCHD folder won't work with Playstation3.
[21:24:35] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2].
[21:24:45] Cannot detect file size: (G:\_TEMP_multiAVCHD\multiTEMP-20100213\20100213-210849-MM002.264)
[21:24:45] Cannot detect file size: (G:\_TEMP_multiAVCHD\multiTEMP-20100213\20100213-210849-MM002.264)
[21:24:45] Error encoding main menu page #2!
[21:25:56] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[21:26:07] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[21:26:13] Cannot detect file size: (G:\_TEMP_multiAVCHD\multiTEMP-20100213\20100213-210849-AS002.264)

All this tells me I have something missing in my directshow setup on my Windows system, I hope...????

Could someone give me some tips how to solve this, so my m2ts file with VC1 will work with multiAVCHD?

I don't want to re-encode to H.264, but use the unmodified VC1 file. If there is no other solutions possible then re-encode I just have to accept it :)

Thanks, bye...
Dolsen

deank

13th February 2010, 22:18

Search the forum for enabling VC-1 in directshow (ffdshow for example).

Dolsen

13th February 2010, 22:41

Search the forum for enabling VC-1 in directshow (ffdshow for example).

****

..snip...

Dean :)

I have tried searching, but I get so much hits with posts not having anything with this... doing a search with "enable vc-1 directshow" will search on all three words seperatly, and not together.

I have Halli splitter and ffdshow installed, and in ffdshow I have in "Codecs" enabled VC-1 with "libavcodec". Also tried with "wmv9". But neither makes my m2ts file with VC-1 videostream work inside multiAVCHD.

No quick tips?

Thanks, bye...
Dolsen

deank

13th February 2010, 22:44

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

Music Fan

13th February 2010, 23:21

Adding this file in multiAVCHD and it tells me the file is not a proper 1920x1080 sized video. That's no problem for me, as my PS3 plays it with no errors.

I don't want to re-encode to H.264, but use the unmodified VC1 file. If there is no other solutions possible then re-encode I just have to accept it :)
Normally, you can't put this resolution on an AVCHD. Even if MultiAVCHD accept it, I believe that the PS3 will add a green (or black) bar at the bottom of the video, which means that the 816 lines won't be centered.
It works in m2ts but not with AVCHD because it's different for the PS3.
I don't have PS3 but I read it many times.
On my Panasonic player, this kind of resolution is stretched to hit 1080 lines, which is horrible.
That's the problem of not compliant resolutions on AVCHD if you don't want to re-encode.
You could maybe try to export an extract of this video (if you know how to cut it) with TSMuxer in AVCHD mode, burn it on dvd and play it on the PS3 to see what happens.
Or you do that with MultiAVCHD without menus nor transcoding.

deank

13th February 2010, 23:37

Okay, so the PiCTURE SLIDE-SHOW is now available. Drag a folder which contains some JPG/BMP/PNG files (subfolders are scanned, too) and you'll get a prompt if you want to create slide-show title. Set its properties and you're done... :) Name of the title will be automatically set to "Picture slideshow (XX pictures)" with XX=the number of pictures you imported. The more pictures you import the harder it will be for your PC to process the avisynth script. Usually 100-200 pictures is okay... In the log you'll see how each picture is resized and placed in the output plane (1920x1080 / 1280x720 / 720x480).

There was a bug if user uses default 'black' background but it should be okay now.

Chapter are not set at each picture, but I may add it later.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_pss_0.jpg

(I couldn't stand it ;) - to test with pictures of the birthday present I made myself few months ago - 7er) :)
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_pss_2.jpg

(and the old 5er)
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_pss_1.jpg

Dean :)

DLynch

14th February 2010, 00:25

Okay, so the PiCTURE SLIDE-SHOW is now available.

(I couldn't stand it ;) - to test with pictures of the birthday present I made myself few months ago - 7er) :)

Very nice! The slideshow is pretty cool also!;)

deank

14th February 2010, 01:20

I just added [slide right-to-left] transition effect. It is the same as in the Playstation3 image gallery and looks pretty cool :)

Transitions are:

[random] - randomly selected transition
[none] - images are shown with no transtiions
[fade-in / fade-out] - fade is applied when displaying next picture
[fade-out] - fade is applied only at the end of the currently displayed picture (same as the trailer-cut style for motion menu)
[slide right-to-left] - slide effect with animated transition for each picture... sliding from the right part of the screen to the center and then sliding out to the left (with opacity fade in/out).

Dean

drelin

14th February 2010, 02:52

Hello, Deank

Good new :)

With the 2st build modified the SETUP works on PIONEER.
I don't know what you had modified but it work on Pioneer and also on Sony.
If you can, I'm interested to understand what the modifications you made.

Just a little "bug" only in Pioneer, When access on SETUP the 1st button is displayed (according to the 1st track audio).

If I navigate to the right button (subtitle OFF), navigation works fine; but if I move directly to down button (2sd audio track) the button is not displayed.
If I move a second time to a nother button (right, up or down) the next button selected is displayed correctly and after the navigation works normally (the hiden button is displayed and avialable)

If I move to the right button (3th buuton) before go to the 2sd button, navigation works normally.
The 2sd hidden button effect is only I move directly on this button.

I hope that my explanation is clear. Is not esay to illustrate this.
See if you can find a issue for this.

N.B :
few notes about difference navigation reactions into Pioneer and sony player for information to everybody.
On Pioneer some access (main menu to SEUTP menu or Chapter menu return to main menu) produce a black screen with 1-2 sec'max) delay time.
On sony the same access not produce black screen but the return CHAPTERmenu or SETUP menu to main menu produce a 5-6 sec time delay.

Thank Deank

I

deank

14th February 2010, 03:02

It is not easy to explain what I changed, because it is program fragments in the navigation .m2ts files. Although it looks so simple, the programming behind these buttons in all pages (chapters/main/setup) is extremely difficult and I have only a HEX editor as an instrument... it is like looking at the 'Matrix" already) :)

Since it is working now (as I hoped) I'll add some more code to eliminate the problems Pioneer has with multiAVCHD menus. The issue you have with the other buttons is related to the problem before, but at least it doesn't cause lock-up of the player.

It seems that the Pioneer is a very STRICT player :) but since I know what bugs it off I can fix it.

I'll let you know about the fix later.

Thanks for taking the time to test, drelin!

Dean

Dolsen

14th February 2010, 07:21

Hello again,

Can someone test if they get TS Download: "VC-1 Cheese Slicies" (http://drop.io/hidden/mbrbkguvrfoufa/asset/c2xpY2llcy12Yy0xLW50c2MtMTA4MGktMjktOTctemlw) TS (54MB) NTSC 1920x1080 interlaced 29.97fps file to work in multiAVCHD?

My own file, M2TS 1920x816 25.00fps was also interlaced, as I have figured out. And doing some reading there could be problems with interlaced VC1.

With the help of GraphStudio I can see what's going on when I drop my VC1 .m2ts on it, it's splitted with Halli Media Splitter, but it only splits audio, no video. And this tells me why multiAVCHD fails, as it can't get video data to work with.

After manually create a graph in GraphStudio I'm able to play same file correctly, using "MPC - Mpeg Source (Gabest) / MpegSplitter.ax" as splitter, as it returns audio and video.

I can also do the same manual graph in GraphStudio using VC1 .ts file from the above weblink, and I get audio and video.

At least I think I have figured out the problem is with who does the splitting, it has to be Halli Media Splitter? If I only could put "MpegSplitter.ax" with higher priority to override Halli Media Splitter, but trying that within GraphStudio or GSpot only tells me "Fails to update merit value", and it's stuck on "unlikely merit".

Also, if I muxed the videostream VC1 and audiostream AC3 in a MKV container, multiAVCHD and Windows Media Player can play correctly the MKV file.

At least I have some more clues, but still no solve why I can not play my M2TS with VC1 (interlaced)...

Any suggestions?

Thanks, bye
Dolsen

Music Fan

14th February 2010, 10:53

why I can not play my M2TS with VC1 (interlaced)
You said yesterday that you could play it in m2ts.
I guess you mean you can't when it's in an AVCHD structure.
I have the same problem on my Panasonic player and I read several times that VC1 was problematic on AVCHD. I don't know if anyone has managed to do so.
I'm downloading your file.

Music Fan

14th February 2010, 11:30

I tested it on AVCHD and my Panasonic BD35 can't play it, as I expected.
My player is weird because he recognizes well the codec : when I click on display, I see "VC1", but he can't launch the video.
But I can't even play your file on my pc though I can read another VC1 file. And this codec is activated in ffdshow.
When I play yours with MPC, the image is black and there's no sound.
Did you cut it on keyframes ?

Dolsen

14th February 2010, 16:13

You said yesterday that you could play it in m2ts.
I guess you mean you can't when it's in an AVCHD structure.
I have the same problem on my Panasonic player and I read several times that VC1 was problematic on AVCHD. I don't know if anyone has managed to do so.
I'm downloading your file.

I tested it on AVCHD and my Panasonic BD35 can't play it, as I expected.
My player is weird because he recognizes well the codec : when I click on display, I see "VC1", but he can't launch the video.
But I can't even play your file on my pc though I can read another VC1 file. And this codec is activated in ffdshow.
When I play yours with MPC, the image is black and there's no sound.
Did you cut it on keyframes ?

Thanks for taking your time to test file from the weblink. I have done so much testing, I have lost track of what does work and what does not work, but I did some quick test now, and creating M2TS file from tsmuxer with the weblinked file will not play on my PS3. Making a AVCHD folder with tsmuxer will make my PS3 play it from an USB-stick perfectly.

I tested again with my 1920x816 interlaced PAL M2TS-VC1, and it will not play on my PS3 . I then made an AVCHD folder with my PAL M2TS-VC1 file, and it played on my PS3, but I got green border below as you told earlier...?! I'm so sure both worked before.... Oh well... sigh, my head is spinning. My fault, sorry... :confused:

You said you could not play that weblinked file on your computer, so you have same "problem" as I have. It's not my file, it's from someone else in some other webforums (here is direct link to the post) (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16956445#post16956445). But you can make it play, if you do the following:

Use tsmuxer to demux the weblinked file, you get a VC1 videostream and AC3 audiostream (it's silenced anyway).
In the tool MKVExtractGUI-1.6.4.1, is a MKV muxing tool, "mmg.exe". Start it, and drag and drop VC1 & AC3 files onto its window, it will properly detect both streams with correct structures. Do the muxing.
Now you should have a MKV file with VC1&AC3 that you can play in Windows Media Player or other players that uses directshow, like multiAVCHD.
I'm no expert, but this tells me halli media splitter can not work with a M2TS/TS container that has interlaced VC1 videostream. Because when exactly the same VC1 videostream added inside a MKV container does play correct with halli media splitter doing the splitting...! :confused:

Earlier I said if I made MKV of my M2TS-VC1 interlaced PAL file, it worked correctly inside multiAVCHD. I was too quick to say that, it really does work correct when doing all editing inside multiAVCHD and doing previews. But when rendering the AVCHD folder, it will not work, simply because multiAVCHD de-mux it back to M2TS which will not work, so I'm back at square one.

I have given up on trying to avoid re-encode my VC1 videostream, and have now re-encoded it with unCropMKV and made a proper 1920x1080 H.264 M2TS file to use in multiAVCHD.

Unless someone else don't have some ideas, I will not investigate into this any futher...

Thanks, bye..
Dolsen

deank

14th February 2010, 16:34

Hello, Deank

With the 2st build modified the SETUP works on PIONEER.

I fixed the other issue you had with the PIONEER, so re-download the archive and give it a try.

***

@Dolsen: I really can't understand what are you trying to accomplish. VC-1 is NOT supported in standard-video-player (file mode) from the XMB menu in the Playstation 3. The only way to get it working is by playing it from within a complete AVCHD/Blu-ray structure (clicking "X" on the AVCHD icon). The same thing goes for DTS and TrueHD audio - both are not supported in file-mode - only with AVCHD/Blu-ray structures.

Music Fan

14th February 2010, 17:05

But you can make it play, if you do the following
I tried it but I still have a black image in MPC and VLC says he hasn't the filter to read it.

It's not my file, it's from someone else in some other webforums
He also gave it in H264 ;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1157287

Dolsen

14th February 2010, 17:31

I fixed the other issue you had with the PIONEER, so re-download the archive and give it a try.

***

@Dolsen: I really can't understand what are you trying to accomplish. VC-1 is NOT supported in standard-video-player (file mode) from the XMB menu in the Playstation 3. The only way to get it working is by playing it from within a complete AVCHD/Blu-ray structure (clicking "X" on the AVCHD icon). The same thing goes for DTS and TrueHD audio - both are not supported in file-mode - only with AVCHD/Blu-ray structures.

My goal is not to have a single playable M2TS file, because playing such a file on PS3 will not make use of the FPS inside the movie, e.x. a 23,976fps M2TS will not be played with 1080p24. Only through an AVCHD structure will I get true FPS playback. So yes, I want to put VC-1 inside an AVCHD structure.

I think i have done some progress now, I uninstalled my Haali build from 19.12.2009, and because of bugs inside that Haali package, I had to manually unregister all 6 haali filters from within GraphStudio (running as administrator). And then I installed this version of Haali "MatroskaSplitter110109.exe" v1.9.42.1.

And guess what??? Now my problem with not manage to play my 1920x816 interlaced PAL M2TS-VC1 inside Windows Media Player is gone - WMPlayer accepts and play the video. Also GraphStudio shows correct splitting of audio and video stream using Haali media splitter. I have really done some progress! :)

Now I can create an AVCHD structure with multiAVCHD without errors in the log. And the AVCHD structure plays perfectly on my PS3, without green border below the 1920x816 video. But there are visual glitches in the motion background and chapter thumbnails, se below.

New problem:
Now multiAVCHD generates some blockiness-errors/glitches in the motion background and in the preview in Properties/Transcode and in generated chapter thumbnails, but only in some shadow-parts of the video. WindowsMediaPlayer/MKplayer/GraphStudio plays the same M2TS-VC1 with no such visual blockiness here and there... I have to look into that...

Until then, bye...
Dolsen

Dolsen

14th February 2010, 17:48

I tried it but I still have a black image in MPC and VLC says he hasn't the filter to read it.

I tried the muxed MKV in VLC, and it plays about 4seconds and stops updating stream, the timeline goes as normal. I don't know why this is problem in VLC. I tried KMPlayer and it played the muxed MKV correctly.

But since I could not use a muxed MKV of my M2TS-VC1 file in multiAVCHD, I have no need to get this MKV working correctly in other programs, since my goal is an AVCHD structure to play on my PS3.

He also gave it in H264 ;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1157287

That's correct, but H264 is no problems, it's when the videostream is VC-1 (interlaced?)...

Bye,
Dolsen

deank

14th February 2010, 18:12

Dolsen

14th February 2010, 19:41

Please stop flooding the thread with problems about CODECS, SPLITTERS or other things like this. This is a forum for multiAVCHD and its primary function is to AUTHOR not to reencode. Post in a different thread/forum, not here please.

Dean

Sorry about all the posts, but just as you said, multiAVCHD main work is to author, which is exactly my goal, I didn't want to re-encode the problem file, just collect it easy inside an AVCHD structure that worked flawless. Here is a link to a clip from the problem video = filetest vc-1.zip (http://www.sendspace.com/file/87pcu7)

Please just try to work with that file in multiAVCHD (with Haali v1.9.42.1, newer versions are non-working with M2TS_VC1 files) and you will notice the blockiness in preview/motion backgrounds/chapter thumbnails. As far I can see, it has to be some problems related somewhere between multiAVCHD <-> avisynth scripts generated.

If I activate "Do not apply trailer cuts to BG video (use as is)", then motion background is perfect, but static background used in setup/chapters is very blockiness. If I deactivate "Do not apply trailer cuts to BG video (use as is)" then I get perfect static background in setup/chapter but motion background has blockiness. Both time chapter and static title thumbnails are displayed with blockiness inside.

I will not address the issue any more, sorry if I got a little carried away, since I wrote a post public about a problem, I just wanted to inform what I did to solve the problem in return.

Thanks for your time, bye...
Dolsen

deank

14th February 2010, 19:47

In the support forum there is a download section (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17) which explicitly directs to the proper versions of avisynth/haali/ffdshow.

Dolsen

14th February 2010, 20:23

In the support forum there is a download section (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17) which explicitly directs to the proper versions of avisynth/haali/ffdshow.

Thanks, I did a look into that. I had exactly the same avisynth and haali installed. But my ffdshow was newer, so I uninstalled it, and installed ffdshow from above webpage. And did a reboot.

Dropped the M2TS_VC1 file onto GraphStudio so I could confirm file was splitted with haali and audio/video decoded with ffdshow.

But the same blockiness issues still happends with multiAVCHD as in my previous post...

At least I now have the preferred directshow settings your program wants.

Thanks, bye...
Dolsen

drelin

14th February 2010, 23:00

I fixed the other issue you had with the PIONEER, so re-download the archive and give it a try.

Hello,
I report the playback on PIONEER with the lastest version :

And Very Good new, all playback works fine.
Access to SETUP menu and navigation work fine.

Actually : all menus, tracks selection, resume function, Pop menu and of course playback work with "bug" on Pioneer and Sony standalone player.

Very good job. :) :)

The last test I've not made yet is a complete project with long time title video.
(specially for multi page chapter generation).

I'll produce a complete project on AVCHD (burned on DVD) and another on BDVM (burned on BDR); I'll test these project and report playback results.

If you need some other tests, tell me ;)

deank

14th February 2010, 23:15

Thanks, drelin. Good news indeed. :) So I guess not too many things left before the official release.

It is good that all menu pages and sub-pages + the pop-up work. I'll need to finish the old-style static menus for AVCHD strict mode and then I can continue with fixing the known bugs (like pictures for the thumbnails and some other minor things).

Dean

***

There is something else you can try... Check if you have click-sounds when you move the navigation boxes through the menu (in Blu-ray mode). You can also try [PLAYSTATION 3] output and then rename the files to long format (from 8.3) (with AVCHD Manager) and write a disc to test in the Pioneer and the Sony. There must be AUXDATA folder in the output + sound.bdmv file in it.

Music Fan

15th February 2010, 01:03

Actually : all menus, tracks selection, resume function, Pop menu and of course playback work with "bug" on Pioneer and Sony standalone player.

Very good job. :) :)
I guess you meant without bug ! ;)

drelin

15th February 2010, 04:37

There is something else you can try... Check if you have click-sounds when you move the navigation boxes through the menu (in Blu-ray mode). You can also try [PLAYSTATION 3] output and then rename the files to long format (from 8.3) (with AVCHD Manager) and write a disc to test in the Pioneer and the Sony. There must be AUXDATA folder in the output + sound.bdmv file in it.

Test with BLURAY OUTPUT burned on :

1- DVD-R
On Sony player, disc detected as AVCHD run without "click-sound".

On Pioneer player, disc detected as AVCHD run with "click-sound"

2- BD-RE
On Sony and Pioneer, disc run with "click-sound".

About sound volume and detail in menus on both player :
- Volume sound is very light with comparison to audio background (in main menu).
I think that you may up the volume.
- On CHAPTER menu, the 3 last buttons (< / > / X) not produce click sound ?
- On SETUP menu, all buttons work with sound.

For test with PS3 output and rename with AVCHD Manager, I need to understand.
If I use AVCHDME to rename files to 8.3 format, the tool display a message that files are allready to the 8.3 files standard and no rename is necessary.
What I do exactly ? Make avchdme reduce (to desactivate 8.3 format) ?

I've made a quick test with 8.3 files format activated on DVD-R disc.
The both player can run the disc and display "Unknow disc, disc can't be played"

deank

15th February 2010, 10:15

About the PS3 output:

It is created in 8.3 format that's why you need to use the button "AVCHDme-undo" - it will convert the files back to long-names. Then you burn the BDMV folder only. :)

Dean

deank

15th February 2010, 12:01

A quick update:

* Option to resize pictures for picture-slide-show to 16:9 to fit screen
* There is a preview while generating the menu for SETUP pages
* There is sound for all buttons in all pages (in selected modes)
* A fix for imported tsMuxeR compilations which do not contain properly set language tags (causing multiAVCHD to crash)
* SLIDE menu can get rid of the bottom gray bar when 'no reflections' is used
* Option to split pictures for slide-show in different titles

Dean

drelin

15th February 2010, 12:14

About the PS3 output:

It is created in 8.3 format that's why you need to use the button "AVCHDme-undo" - it will convert the files back to long-names. Then you burn the BDMV folder only. :)

Dean

Ok, that I've supposed but not sure. :)

With addition to previous tests, I'll test with "avchdme-undo" on DVD-R and BD-RE support after working day and will report.

zoner

15th February 2010, 14:46

hi deank,
i'd like to report a problem with hidden titles, when using it, i get everytime an array out of bounds error and program quits while it works when i turn it off.
just to summerize, i made a backup blu-ray and tried to hide the mailn movie while jumping straight to it and having all the extras in the menu, while the structure has 13 titles it only got to make 12 menu pages(i think)
and it still goes for number 13 and then it callepses.

btw, i took the original menu m2ts and used it as audio and video,put the thumbnals in xmb mode on the left and it looks amazing...i really awe your skills :)

deank

15th February 2010, 14:49

Can you tell me the exact error.. There is always "Line: XXXXX" - it will help me. I tried to clean all about the hidden titles, but there may be something left.

Can you post a screenshot of your menu? :)

Dean

***

In the last update chapter thumbnails are displayed in sequence (like the title list menu)... Just a small effect to make the menu not so static :)

zoner

15th February 2010, 16:18

i was finally able to replicate the problem
(RT)Invalid Array index (2) Valid Range (1-1) - Line 9133
:)
i'll up a screenshot later
cheers

deank

15th February 2010, 16:26

I'll try to replicate it too.. because I added some things and now the source has different line numbers...

I added two more transition effects for the picture slideshow...

slide to center
diagonal+vertical

Dean

drelin

15th February 2010, 20:03

I've finished playback test with PS3 output with "AVHCDme reduce" for 8.3 file format.

1- DVD-R
On Sony player, disc run without "click-sound". (Like as previuos test)

On Pioneer player, disc run with "click-sound"

2- BD-RE
On Sony and Pioneer, disc run with "click-sound".

The sound is yet little small compare to audio background.
With SETUP and CHAPTER menu (withour background audio), it's more easy to hear the sound but I think that volume must be updated.
It's a detail not very important and maybe subjective for my idea.

The new 'transition" effect for CHAPTER menu worksfine on both player.

See after next features :)

deank

15th February 2010, 20:19

The 'default' audio (excerpt from unpublished LP of Infected Mushroom / Doors) has audio lowered to 20% of the original volume. Unlike your test clip which has 100% audio volume, the default audio aimed not to be so audible but be a simple background and is as soft as possible.

You can soften the volume of your BG audio to get the clicks more audible.

I can add an option to decrease the volume of 'user audio', but then it will always be converted to AC3.

Dean

*** Good to know that the chapter-"transition"/animation looks fine, too :)

zoner

16th February 2010, 08:32

hi
two more small issues:
1. Skip Top Menu playback wont do its job, i still got menu first
2. the tsmuxer bug when it wont proccess srt starting with 00:00:00.000 is back and i had to change the first line

cheers

deank

16th February 2010, 10:37

1) It is fixed now

2) Do you have [x] Parse and fix SRT/SSA subtitle files option enabled? If you do, you'll see a line in the log:

[10:52:34] Modifying subtitle file (file.srt)

***

Hidden titles should now work, too.

Dean

deank

16th February 2010, 15:15

There was a very serious bug, caused by the inability of multiAVCHD's compiler program (CalcIt) to handle some simple arithmetic operations with values >1048576 which may cause wrong processing of large playlists (>64KB) thus leading to broken output both in normal and re-author modes. Basically a HEX value of 0x05301020 will get wrongly calculated to 0x00301020 or even worse to 0x00001020 - bad... really bad :)

It also may have affected importing playlists from camcoders with large scene/shoot collection in a single mpls file and re-processing of large clipinfo .clpi files. Possibly it could've broken some large .MOI index files in SD_VIDEO MPEG2 output modes for Panasonic and Viera TVs.

It is all fixed now in 730RC (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar).

***

Two separate settings for navigation color and opacity are available now - one for MAIN and TITLE LIST menus and one for CHAPTER and SETUP menus.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_general.jpg

***

Also, if you load a file, which contains NAMED chapters (you'll see that in the LOG), chapter marks will be converted to SRT file (each chapter with 8 seconds duration with 2 seconds start offset) and will be saved in the folder of your video (as video_name.ext.chapters.eng.srt), then auto-loaded as external subtitles. :)

[16:38:06] multiAVCHD.dat version: [03010730]
[16:38:25] Loading original chapters (D:\__TEST\The Matrix 480p.mkv).
[16:38:25] Chapter name at [00:00:00.000]: Morpheus/Neo Matchup
[16:38:25] Loading external subtitles: (bul) - The Matrix 480p.bul.srt
[16:38:25] Loading external subtitles: (eng) - The Matrix 480p.mkv.chapters.eng.srt

and you get the .srt file:

1
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:10,000
Morpheus/Neo Matchup

Dean

zoner

16th February 2010, 15:53

awsome! :)

VincAlastor

16th February 2010, 19:33

when version 4.0 comes out? i wait for encoding new jobs :) ...and will you add a x264 custom command line, custom avisynth scripts and dgdecnv support?

deank

16th February 2010, 20:19

The version will be out by the end of the week I hope.

AVS script import is already implemented in the RC build (which answers the question about DG).

Custom x264 parameters are not a priority at the moment.

A siimple "thank you' would also be appreciated as you are a user with no contribution (testing, sharing) to the project whatsoever.

Dean

VincAlastor

16th February 2010, 22:51

yes, you are right. i'll donate you tomorrow :) thank you for avisynth support and maybe an extra x264 command line in future...

Sorry, I am German and can do nothing for it! :D

chompy

17th February 2010, 09:17

First of all thanks for the great work you're doing deank :thanks:

Lately I've not followed your progress with 730RC (I’m more interested in re-author mode, hopping someday re-authoring branched blurays will be available), but a quick look at your last posts has impressed me with the nice features you are adding to MultiAVCHD.

I have one question… When you demux m2ts files, what are you using, ac3to, tsMuxeR or a demuxer developed by yourself? I answer this because tsMuxeR is known to have problems with audio in branched movies, while ac3to handles them correctly, and despite nowadays MultiAVCHD can’t re-author branched blurays if in a near future you develop this functionality and use tsMuxeR there could be some sound problems in the re-authored movie.

Greetings

deank

17th February 2010, 12:58

Version 4.0 (build 731) is available for download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download/) (mirror (http://www.videohelp.com/download/multiAVCHD_4.0.exe)).

New additions/features will be available as updates. 730RC.rar is no longer available.

rendez2k

17th February 2010, 12:59

Version 4.0 (build 731) is available for download (http://rapidshare.com/files/351849083/multiAVCHD_4.0.exe).

Good work! I assume this is just the last beta but with a final version number?

DLynch

17th February 2010, 20:54

Version 4.0 (build 731) is available for download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download/) .

Great work Dean! Thanks!:)

deank

17th February 2010, 20:57

One of the next days you'll get a lot more menu customization options per title + option to save and share them with other users.

@rendez2k: No, there are a lot of changes. The 'beta' is in the history now :)

@chompy: I can't promise anything. multiAVCHD's main purpose is authoring...

Dean :)

drelin

18th February 2010, 00:05

Good idea for Option to share custom menus with other :)

I'm thinking about create a Sujet on Multiavchd Forums to share my Custom MAIN /SETUP / CHAPTER menus and provide package ready to create authoring.

Just a little issue with the actually version :
With static menu background + audio background (30 sec duration) on main menu, the audio sequence is played only one time and looped. ?
Tested on PowerDVD and satndalone players.

Edit :
With another tests, I've found that after 30sec duration sequence audio, the audio is not played during the same time (30sec) and reloop after etc...
audio played 30sec -> 30 sec without sound -> audio is played 30 sec -> 30 sec without sound ......

chompy

18th February 2010, 09:23

My LG BD390 had problems after some blanking with last b730RC (it got stuck when reading the blanked playlist), but luckily, after doing the same blanking with b731 it works perfectly now. :)

:thanks:

drelin

18th February 2010, 09:52

deank

18th February 2010, 09:58

Just a little issue with the actually version :
With another tests, I've found that after 30sec duration sequence audio, the audio is not played during the same time (30sec) and reloop after etc...
audio played 30sec -> 30 sec without sound -> audio is played 30 sec -> 30 sec without sound ......

Make sure you use version 4 with clean install or delete your .ini file, or edit line 58 of the .ini to show the number 7.

*** About the Pioneer: I was wondering when you'll report about the chapter and title list menus and the Pioneer. And the pop-up menu... probably the pioneer doesn't rescale the popup and it stays in the invisible part of the screen. You can try to create a project for Playstation3 - there you'll get 720p popup, then AVCHDme-undo and try it in the pionner.

My LG BD390 had problems after some blanking with last b730RC (it got stuck when reading the blanked playlist), but luckily, after doing the same blanking with b731 it works perfectly now. :)

Probably it is had to do with the bug I posted about in the previous page.

drelin

18th February 2010, 10:16

Make sure you use version 4 with clean install or delete your .ini file, or edit line 58 of the .ini to show the number 7.

*** About the Pioneer: I was wondering when you'll report about the chapter and title list menus and the Pioneer. And the pop-up menu... probably the pioneer doesn't rescale the popup and it stays in the invisible part of the screen. You can try to create a project for Playstation3 - there you'll get 720p popup, then AVCHDme-undo and try it in the pionner.

Thank for the tips for POP menu, I'll test this evening.
For Pioneer, in my last previous post, the 2sd point issue is with the actual 4.0 build 731+ version not with RC version.
I'm sure that is was clear, I prefer repeat for precision. :)

EDIT :
About Custum menu package that I was want to provide for other users, tell me if I can open a new sujet on Multiavchd forum to provide links for download packages.
Each time, I'll create for me a new graphic package (MAIN Menu / SETUP /CHAPTER), I'll provide a link and screen previews. :)

deank

18th February 2010, 10:19

I was referring to your problem with the menu - 30seconds audio, 30 no audio - 30sec audio... It is caused by this line in the .ini. When you do your tests tonight make sure to update to the latest version (using multiUPDATE.exe). I'll add some fixes today.

drelin

18th February 2010, 10:22

deank

18th February 2010, 10:35

Yes, but let me first finish with the option in "title properties" - then you can share a package in a format, which multiAVCHD will accept.

I added an option in MENU/Advanced: [x] Always match pop-up menu to title video resolution

It will create pop-up menus for each resolution when the blu-ray player does not rescale it (the way it works for PS3).

flaviometal

18th February 2010, 12:54

drelin

18th February 2010, 13:50

Awesome work, Dean! Thanks for this fantastic tool!

drelin, your menu it's looking great, man! For DVD's, I use DVD-Lab, and for motion menus I'm importing a PSD / generating motion menus with DVD-Lab built-in encoder. How did you encode this particular motion background? Did you use a PSD file AND a motion, and convert to MKV for use in multiAVHCD?

And Dean, I wanna know if it's there a way to import a motion AND a JPG, making menu with static image and motion background.

For the Video background creation , I use Video editor (like Premiere / Vegas / Afetr Effect) and export to mkv.
I creat composition with PSD files layer, video and "green mask" for incrustation (like blue screen in FX movie).

In multiavhcd the motion background is a video sequence.
For the SETUP and Chapter menu the background is static jpeg. After, I make some replacement files in output AVCHD folder.
It's tempory solution before that Deank finish the adds in titles prorieties for custom background.

Just wait, when Deank will provide these features, you'll can make this compilation more easy.

I'll provide packages with some custom creation menus. :)

deank

18th February 2010, 18:13

@all:

There were a lot of important fixes today. Make sure you have the latest build-update (still 731) by updating when asked or manually with multiUPDATE.exe

The fixes were mostly about playlist processing and project file creation. Should you have problems with importing older compilations (even from builds 730/731) - always make sure to remove multiAVCHD.mpf and let the program rescan your input folder. This is very important.

Dean

AJ500

18th February 2010, 19:03

First time user here:

I installed version 4.0 (build 731) on Vista-32bit.

I created a Blu-ray structure from some Sony camcorder AVCHD files. Everything works except none of the chapter thumbnails display (just black frames). The log says using 3 thumbnails and extracting 3 thumbnails.

I also installed on a laptop running Vista-32bit and everthing works, including the 3 thumbnails, using the same media files and multiAVCHD configuration settings.

What should I look for that's causing the thumbnails not to display? Avisynth 2.5.8 is installed.

Thanks, AJ

deank

18th February 2010, 19:22

VincAlastor

18th February 2010, 20:38

v4.0 rocks! thank you dean

AJ500

18th February 2010, 20:50

Make sure to reinstall your ffdshow and haali splitter and use the versions I posted here (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17). If your video is MPEG2 make sure to select MPEG-TS and MPEG-PS when you install Haali splitter.

Uninstalled the previous versions and installed from your links. Still no chapter thumbnail displayed. DFSMgr shows ffdshow and haali filters.

What should I try?

deank

18th February 2010, 21:38

THe same as what you have on the working configuration. I don't know. Remove all other codecs/decoders, reboot, install the required ones, reboot and retry.

I keep these 3 programs for the last 2 years - never updated them and all builds of multiAVCHD always worked.

cwh060

18th February 2010, 21:49

@AJ500

Make sure you clean out your system and restart

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744&page=211&post=#4218

It's happened to me several times!

cwh

AJ500

18th February 2010, 21:54

Ok, I'll dig into it. What's really strange is that neither ffshow or haali are installed on the working laptop and don't showup in DFSMgr! I suppose mediaAVCHD is connecting to some other filters that perform a similar function. The laptop has lots of CyberLink directshow filters that are part of the Dell MediaDirect services.

cwh060

18th February 2010, 22:02

You are probably right, I have Cyberlink PD8 and had forgot to install ffdshow once, multiavchd worked fine. I installed in after. CCLeaner is a good program to get rid of broken/missing links and it's free!

MultiAVCHD is a great program and getting better by the day! I quit using PD8.

cwh

deank

18th February 2010, 22:03

drelin

18th February 2010, 22:44

Hello,

In addition to my preview post, i've made 2 complete projects AVCHD/BDMV with the last version (4.0 build 731+) : One in 1080p and another in 720p.

I've found 2 issues with Pioneer standalone player.

1- With the 720p video project, the POP menu not works (with 1080p it's OK).
I don't know, if it is a limitation a the player (according to previous post with Deank) or not ?

2- During beta/RC tests time, all projects created for was short with only 12 max chapters marks.
Now, I've made projects with long time video title and 20 chapters marks.
Multiavchd creates the good entries and chapters thumbnails. 2 Chapters menus pages had been created fine.
During playback on Pioneer, the 1st page have good links to according chapters time (12 chapters).
The 2sd page display the 8 last chapters thumbnails, but if I go to "right" after the last chpater thumbnail (normally 20th chapter), the playback display the next navigation box chapter (without chapter thumbnail).
And if I check the chapter links of all chapter thumbnails on 2sd chapter menu page : the links are the same of 12 first chapters (like as the links of 1st page are replicated on the 2sd page navigation).
This issue appears only on Pioneer playback. On Sony player, It's works fine.

I've made new test for playback with Pioneer and the 2 issues described in quote introduction.

With new option of POP menu for 720p / SD definition :
With Pioneer, the Pop dis displayed but totally disformed.
No text and button can view correctly.
I think that Pioneer player can display POP menu only for 1080p not compatible with lower definition.

For the 2sd point, the isssue is the same, on the second chapter page the links repeat the chapter links of the 1st page.
Ex : Chapter 22 on 2sd page display the according thumbnail but the link after clik on it is the 10th chapter entrie.

For the pop menu is not a big problem if not solution is avialable for Pioneer (this issue is only for 720p or less resolution).
But for CHAPTER links is more serious, actually only the 12th first chapter are correctly avialable.
The second page chapter is not works for Pioneer player.

On Sony, all works fine.

Edit : I've install the new version this udapted version provided today and the ini file is corrected is 7 on the line 58.
With this settings, the Sony player display menu page more quickly than before (just 2 sec into 2 menus).
It's very better. :)

deank

18th February 2010, 22:55

I didn't say I fixed the pioneer problem, so I'll take a look at it one of the next days. Although - I can't understand the behavior - normal chapter links should point to the right chapter marks.

AJ500

18th February 2010, 23:00

Well, multiAVCHD doesn't need ffdshow or haali explicitly. It needs a mean to decode video and audio from your input files via DIRECTSHOW. Should you have other decoders which are capable of decoding your source video via directshow - it won't matter as long as it works. ffdshow+haali are suggested because they are free. There are a lot of users which use other (paid) decoders and it works fine, too.

Dean

I removed ffdshow and haali from the computer that wasn't displaying the thumbnails, and now all is working. If I drag a .m2ts file into graphstudio, the MainConcept filters are used. Adobe Premiere is installed on that computer which, I think, uses MainConcept.

AJ500

18th February 2010, 23:22

@Dean

Now that multiAVCHD is working for me, I echo the compliments of others. multiAVCHD is awesome! It's just what I was looking for to create Blu-ray images from Sony camcorder AVCHD video.

Sounddude

18th February 2010, 23:36

There's nothing that comes close to being this versatile, relatively easy to use, nearly all-in-one HD program. As soon as I start my new job in a few weeks, I plan to donate for all your hard work & time you put into this program and the time you spend here helping others and always listening.

deank

19th February 2010, 10:02

Thanks, guys! :rolleyes:

deank

19th February 2010, 11:39

It is almost ready...

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_template.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_template_2.jpg

deank

19th February 2010, 17:07

Guys, since I'm no designer may I ask those of you with some skills to create a simple icon file (.ico) file for multiAVCHD's icon?

I prefer it to be in the same blue color as the one currently in use... I'll be more than thankful!

Please send your ideas to my email address (it is in the ABOUT tab of multiAVCHD).

Dean

drelin

19th February 2010, 17:37

deank

19th February 2010, 17:44

Rgb: 28, 124, 195 (cmyk c:83% m:45%) :)

drelin

19th February 2010, 18:33

Rgb: 28, 124, 195 (cmyk c:83% m:45%) :)

And because, I've forgotten : What size(s) do want for ICON(s) ?

deank

19th February 2010, 19:30

The last update has the 'custom menu' option available, but not functioning, yet. Yet, you can see what options will be available to customize per title.

It is friday night :) and I'm not let to finish it, so may be tomorrow.

Still there are few fixes for PICTURE SLIDE-SHOW and some other minor changes:

* Footer font and size will not affect [x] Show build and date option
* It is possible to seek in AVS avisynth imported files (slow)
* Picture slide-show will not get black 1st chapter
* Chapter generation when using playlsits with multiple m2ts files (camcoder ones) will attempt to find useful chapter thumbnail (non black/gray) in 4 steps forward and backwards from the exact chapter mark
* Speed improvement on playlist checking (instant, compared to 5-15 seconds before) when importing multiAVCHD or external playlists in fast mode [m]/[p]
* Playlist import was (still?!) limited to 1400 m2ts files. The limit is now lifted to 80000 m2ts files (average of 317 x 4GB m2ts files (1.2TB) per title, when using the max of 252 titles) - upper limit of 312 TB per compilation - ~ 12600 BD-25s / 6300 BD-50s (I think it is enough, at least for the next 4-5 years, until 4K technology becomes publicly/consumer available). Although it seems a lot, a regular HD camcoder would produce few GB / day, which means that you can fit ~ 1 year of everyday shootings in 252 titles (excluding saturdays and sundays) :)
* ... and some other things I can't recall atm

@drelin:

This is the current icon:

Format : ICO
File size : 24.6 KiB

Image #1
Width : 48 pixels
Height : 48 pixels
Resolution : 4 bits
Stream size : 1.60 KiB (7%)

Image #2
Width : 32 pixels
Height : 32 pixels
Resolution : 4 bits
Stream size : 744 Bytes (3%)

Image #3
Width : 16 pixels
Height : 16 pixels
Resolution : 4 bits
Stream size : 296 Bytes (1%)

Image #4
Width : 48 pixels
Height : 48 pixels
Resolution : 8 bits
Stream size : 3.66 KiB (15%)

Image #5
Width : 32 pixels
Height : 32 pixels
Resolution : 8 bits
Stream size : 2.16 KiB (9%)

Image #6
Width : 16 pixels
Height : 16 pixels
Resolution : 8 bits
Stream size : 1.35 KiB (5%)

Image #7
Width : 48 pixels
Height : 48 pixels
Resolution : 32 bits
Stream size : 9.41 KiB (38%)

Image #8
Width : 32 pixels
Height : 32 pixels
Resolution : 32 bits
Stream size : 4.16 KiB (17%)

Image #9
Width : 16 pixels
Height : 16 pixels
Resolution : 32 bits
Stream size : 1.10 KiB (4%)

VincAlastor

20th February 2010, 13:44

hi dean,
i created a blu ray. on two software players (win7 and vista) an on ps3 it works! - great!!! thank you. 4 times the same truehd backround sound, but shit happens :D
if you release the custom menu, can you add a button for another m2ts file? i mean, if i scroll trough the main menu of my videos i want to select beside the setup menu, the chapter list and the play button a "custom name" button of each video, which plays like the "play" button a video stream. but that stream i want to select in the "menu button" tab, like the user defined background sound or the background video. for example a "watch trailer" button with a self made movie trailer or a "making of" with a self made making of clip.
oh my god, my english is terrible, sorry. do you know what i mean?

deank

20th February 2010, 14:02

I understand, but it can't happen. Adding a button to play 'some m2ts' is not that easy as it sounds. It requires creation of additional playlist and there is no space at the moment.

zoner

20th February 2010, 15:04

drelin

20th February 2010, 16:54

hi deank, can you plz add an option to play with thumbnails size? i'd like to make them smaller if possible

EDIT: another idea, if you can make a motion out of the welcome screen also...some blurays have nice videos before menu and putting it as welcome screen can be awsome :)

You can make it actually :
Import the video as you want and in prorieties windows check :
- Play in first option
- Hidde this tilte
and choose for this video title "go to menu display" for the end action.

Result :
At launch of Disc, the intoduction video is played and at the end , the player go to the menu.

zoner

20th February 2010, 18:00

true! thanks drelin :)

deank

20th February 2010, 18:54

Okay... I thought it will be easier but... You can now create custom menu settings for each title. The only limitation is that either all titles must have SETUP pages or not at all.

You can LOAD and SAVE templates. Templates are saved in your multiAVCHD's install folder as:

[D:\multiAVCHD]\templates\menu\[template_name]

Each template folder should contain at least one file: multiAVCHD.mmt. If you're using custom video/audio/chapterbg/setupbg/mainbg you'll get 5 additional files.

If you want to share your menus with other people - archive the template folder for a template you created and upload it.

With this new option you can have mixed menus, for example you can set the default menu to Carousel and load 3 titles then set custom settings for title 2 and 3 as XMB and SLIDE and you'll get a compilation with 3 titles - each with different front menu page.

Let me know how it works for you. There was not much time to test it.

Dean

Rodger

20th February 2010, 20:59

Hello Dean,

sadly once again, when needed there is no way to download the updates. Rapidshare is down (exceeded download slots).
But that´s not the reason for my posting.

There is something wrong with the download links postet at http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/

Mirror1 is the same as link to dat(ONLY) file
Videohelp link is not V4.0 but V3.0

You may fix this by time.

Just to let you know.

greetz
Rodger

deank

21st February 2010, 01:08

DAT update link works only when you can update the DAT. In the case of 4.0 you can't. Download links are working in the 1st post of this thread and also in my forum. You can always download multiAVCHD from videohelp. I fixed the link @ multiAVCHD's homepage.

***

A quick addition, which will make life easier with custom menus... Navigation boxes are now shown in the menu preview in their color and opacity. A hint for button labels/nav-boxes: coordinates of the navigation boxes are with negative offsets related to the button labels. X = -47, Y = -30.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_navsq.jpg

There were few small fixes for the templates page. Menu preview would show the changes you made without re-entering the 'template' window.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_navsq2.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_navsq3sp.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_navsq3.jpg

Dean

late edit: SETUP and CHAPTER preview buttons now allow you to preview these sub-menu pages. :)

Rodger

21st February 2010, 11:41

Hi Dean,

thank you for your quick reply.
There were error messages, which were said to be sent to the author. I don´t know, if the program does this by it self without any further asking for permission.

So I´ll attach it here cause it said that final output may be corrupted. So when I read there was an error with the main menu I guess I won´t test with an expensive BD-R ;)

[22:36:11] Initialising...
[22:36:11] Checking for new version...
[22:36:11] You have the latest build.
[22:36:11] Consistency check finished!
[22:36:11] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[22:36:11] 1 year and 56 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[22:36:11] 241 people supported it with donations
[22:36:11] and you are the 1117858 one to launch the program...
[22:36:11] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[22:36:11] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04000731]

[22:47:24] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[22:47:24] Destination [G:]: NTFS, 124526.9 MiB (121.608 GiB) free space
[22:47:24] Temp folder [C:]: NTFS, 9287.76 MiB (9.07 GiB) free space

[22:47:24] Expected compilation size exceeds available free space!
[22:47:24] Required space: ~18.908 MiB (18.908 GiB)

[22:49:14] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[22:49:14] Destination [G:]: NTFS, 124526.9 MiB (121.608 GiB) free space
[22:49:14] Temp folder [F:]: NTFS, 30612.87 MiB (29.895 GiB) free space

[22:49:14] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 731)
[22:49:14] Selected output mode: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)

[22:49:14] Processing 2 titles...
[22:49:15] Processing (G:\Rips\Oben.m2ts)...
[22:49:16] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[22:49:16] Detected video: ID#4113:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=4
[22:49:16] Adding DTS audio track (ID#4352)
[22:49:16] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[22:49:16] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[22:49:16] Media split set at 1000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding DTS stream (track 2): Bitrate: 1536Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Processed 139004 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 10 min 50 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:04:01.541;00:08:03.083;00:12:04.625;00:16:06.166;00:20:07.708;00:24:09.250;00:28:10.791;00:32:12.333;00:36:13.875;00:40:15.416;00:44:16.958;00:48:18.500;00:52:20.041;00:56:21.583;01:00:23.125;01:04:24.666;01:08:26.208;01:12:27.750;01:16:29.291;01:20:30.833;01:24:32.375;01:28:33.916;01:32:35.458;01:36:36.000 --split-size=1000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\Rips\Oben.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=23.976
A_DTS, "G:\Rips\Oben.m2ts", track=4352, lang=deu, timeshift=0ms
===============================================================================
[22:59:52] Setting resolution (1080p).
[22:59:52] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[22:59:59] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[23:00:04] Media transfer: 00002 -> 00002.m2ts
[23:00:12] Media transfer: 00003 -> 00003.m2ts
[23:00:18] Media transfer: 00004 -> 00004.m2ts
[23:00:27] Media transfer: 00005 -> 00005.m2ts
[23:00:35] Media transfer: 00006 -> 00006.m2ts
[23:00:45] Media transfer: 00007 -> 00007.m2ts
[23:00:54] Media transfer: 00008 -> 00008.m2ts
[23:01:04] Media transfer: 00009 -> 00009.m2ts
[23:01:14] Media transfer: 00010 -> 00010.m2ts
[23:01:23] Media transfer: 00011 -> 00011.m2ts
[23:01:33] Media transfer: 00012 -> 00012.m2ts
[23:01:42] Media transfer: 00013 -> 00013.m2ts
[23:01:52] Media transfer: 00014 -> 00014.m2ts
[23:02:00] Media transfer: 00015 -> 00015.m2ts
[23:02:08] Media transfer: 00016 -> 00016.m2ts
[23:02:16] Media transfer: 00017 -> 00017.m2ts
[23:02:24] Media transfer: 00018 -> 00018.m2ts
[23:02:28] Processing playlist...
[23:02:28] Title #1 added: "Oben"
[23:02:28] Verifying title...
[23:03:04] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[23:03:04] Processing (G:\Rips\Bonus.m2ts)...
[23:03:05] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[23:03:05] Detected video: ID#4113:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=4
[23:03:05] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4352)
[23:03:05] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[23:03:05] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[23:03:05] Media split set at 1000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Processed 6777 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 12 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:00:47.000;00:01:34.000;00:02:21.000;00:03:08.000;00:03:55.000;00:04:41.000 --split-size=1000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\Rips\Bonus.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=23.976
A_AC3, "G:\Rips\Bonus.m2ts", track=4352, lang=deu, timeshift=0ms
===============================================================================
[23:03:17] Setting resolution (1080p).
[23:03:17] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00019.m2ts
[23:03:22] Processing playlist...
[23:03:22] Title #2 added: "Bonus"
[23:03:22] Verifying title...
[23:03:24] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[23:03:24] Preparing authoring information...
[23:03:24] Creating PAL top menu.
[23:03:24] Authoring menu (PAL).
[23:03:24] Creating title thumbnails for 2 titles (CAR)...
[23:03:25] Failed to extract title thumbnail for title #1.
[23:03:25] Using 25 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[23:03:25] *** Extracting 25 chapter thumbnails...
[23:03:42] Using 7 thumbnail/chapter links for title #2...
[23:03:42] *** Extracting 7 chapter thumbnails...
[23:03:42] Image processing for CAR menu completed!

[23:03:42] Preparing menu pages...
[23:03:43] Encoding motion CAR menu page [1/2] [Motion title thumbnail].
[23:03:45] Cannot detect file size: (F:\Encoding\Temp\multiTEMP-20100220\20100220-230324-MM001.264)
[23:03:45] Cannot detect file size: (F:\Encoding\Temp\multiTEMP-20100220\20100220-230324-MM001.264)
[23:03:45] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[23:04:46] Final output may be corrupted!
[23:04:46] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...
[23:04:46] Encoding motion CAR menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [1/3].
[23:04:47] Encoding motion CAR menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [2/3].
[23:04:48] Encoding motion CAR menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [3/3].
[23:04:48] Encoding motion CAR menu page [1/2]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[23:04:49] Cannot detect file size: (F:\Encoding\Temp\multiTEMP-20100220\20100220-230324-AS001.264)
[23:04:49] Encoding motion CAR menu page [2/2] [Motion title thumbnail].
[23:04:51] Cannot detect file size: (F:\Encoding\Temp\multiTEMP-20100220\20100220-230324-MM002.264)
[23:04:51] Cannot detect file size: (F:\Encoding\Temp\multiTEMP-20100220\20100220-230324-MM002.264)
[23:04:51] Error encoding main menu page #2!
[00:02:01] Encoding motion CAR menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[00:02:02] Encoding motion CAR menu page [2/2]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[00:02:02] Cannot detect file size: (F:\Encoding\Temp\multiTEMP-20100220\20100220-230324-AS002.264)
[00:02:02] Menu authoring completed.

[00:02:02] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[00:02:06] Setting main menu for 2 titles...
[00:02:06] Playback will end after title #2.
[00:02:06] Setting menu properties...
[00:02:06] Selected TV system: [PAL]
[00:02:06] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[00:02:06] Completed.
[00:02:06] Setting Blu-ray format...
[00:02:07] Done!

[00:02:08] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[00:02:08] G:\AVCHD\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)
Name : OBEN
===============================================================================
1. Oben [01:36:37]
2. Bonus [00:04:42]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 01:41:20
Output size : 19362 MiB (18.908 GiB)

[00:02:08] G:\AVCHD folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[00:02:08] Burn its CONTENTS to BD-R/RE UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[00:02:09] You may now remove temp folder (F:\Encoding\Temp\multiTEMP-20100220\).
[00:02:09] Your compilation contains 1hrs 41min 20sec of video material.

[00:02:09] multiAVCHD finished in 4375.033 seconds (01:12:55.032)!

[00:02:09] End of log.

deank

21st February 2010, 11:45

No, it doesn't send anything anywhere. You had to play the avisynth script which you see in the box and report the avisynth-error. Probably Your pC cannot decode the video in these .m2ts files via directshow. You can always use the 'static' menu without motion thumbnail.

Use Menu preview before you create a compilation. It is easier to catch a problem there.

rendez2k

21st February 2010, 12:58

deank, you mentioned the ability a few days ago to use CUDA with avisynth scripts. Do you think this might become a built-in feature one day? Any kind of speed increase is a bonus I guess!

deank

21st February 2010, 13:25

I'm not sure if I understand correctly... The option to use external avisynth scripts allows faster processing/decoding of various video files. About encoding - if you find an encoder which uses CUDA and works with avisynth - then it can be used for encoding.

drelin

21st February 2010, 15:56

Hello Deank,

I've make answer before, but I'm working for create a new logo Icon for Multiavchd.
Is not easy as I want but I hope provide something Monday or thuesday. :)
I've never create a icon file before, search a free tool to create a ICO with jpeg or png file.

Another things about other tests with the 4.0 veersion.

I've notified that the "resume" function not works perfectly as same function in RC build provided before.
Before, the resume function re-launch the playback at the last time played but actually, alls players (soft/PS3/standole) go to the near next chapter point of the last time positon played. ?
With the chapter creation in "titles prorieties", if I create chapter marks with "auto" function and the value wanted (ex :12), multiavchd'll create 24 chapter marks ?
If I use a txt file with custom entries marks, it works correctly in multiavchd ?

Beatnut

21st February 2010, 16:24

@ drelin, If you are using photoshop, you can save it as .ico.

deank

21st February 2010, 16:30

There is no change in the resume function in version 4.0. It is the same as in 730RC and the way it works: once you activate the popup menu and click 'Title menu' the currently played chapter is stored in a register and later when you click "Play" the playback resumes from this chaper. It is not possible to make an 'exact' return to the previous point (it is, but not with multiAVCHD).

"12" was a special value for chapters in pre 4.0 versions, because multiAVCHD was limited to 12 chapter thumbnails. I'll remove this 'special meaning' because it is no longer required. At the moment "12" means "auto" and the number of chapters depend on the duration of your movie.

Dean

Beatnut

21st February 2010, 19:07

Hey Dean, i have a question, i just bought a blu ray burner, and i wonder how i have to burn the result of a compulation, do i need to burn just the folder "AVCHD" to the root? or are there other things that need to be done.

Greets

deank

21st February 2010, 19:11

You definitely don't burn the AVCHD folder... if you're using blu-ray disc that is.

There are 5-6 lines at the end of the log which point the user what to do.

Best way to go is to have ImgBurn installed and enable the option in multiAVCHD and let it prepare the output for you.

One rule to follow:

Burning content to optical media (DVD/Blu-ray) requires burning the BDMV folder (and CERTIFICATE if produced). It is as simple as this.

Solid state ouput (USB/SDHC) requires AVCHD folder... X:\AVCHD\BDMV\ for USB and X:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\ for SDHC.

Dean

Beatnut

21st February 2010, 19:26

Thank you for the fast response, i havent noticed the lines in the log, now i see them, thnx

deadstar

21st February 2010, 20:38

If I load a file with named chapters, will they show up in the chapter list

deank

21st February 2010, 20:53

@deadstar: No, not at the moment. What is the format you're using?

I think multiAVCHD supports about 10 chapter formats and it is possible to add 'named-format' to some of them.

deadstar

21st February 2010, 21:18

I loaded mkv file and it shows 25 chapters all of them have names

deank

21st February 2010, 21:31

Named chapters (when detected) are saved in a .chapters.eng.srt file and loaded as external subtitles so you'll have them as a subtitle track.

I thought you were asking about a text chapter file with names, like:

00:00:00.000 CHAPTER 1
00:00:10.000 CHAPTER 2
00:00:20.000 CHAPTER 3

Dean

deadstar

21st February 2010, 21:43

Heres what it looks like
[18:32:42] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04000731]
[18:33:03] Loading original chapters (C:\Users\Deadstar\Downloads\Predator.720p.BluRay.DTS.x264.aZA\Predator.720p.BluRay.DTS.x264.aZA.mkv).
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:00:00.000]: 01. The Invaders (Main Titles)
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:04:04.000]: 02. The Professionals
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:06:30.000]: 03. Schafer's Team
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:10:32.000]: 04. Death in the Jungle
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:18:21.000]: 05. The Watcher
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:20:21.000]: 06. The Rebel Camp
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:27:52.000]: 07. Set Up
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:31:04.000]: 08. The Stalker
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:34:54.000]: 09. The Only Way Out
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:37:49.000]: 10. Something in the Trees
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:41:00.000]: 11. The Living Jungle
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:46:33.000]: 12. Another Kill
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [00:53:09.000]: 13. There's Something Out There
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:01:37.000]: 14. The Stand
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:04:09.000]: 15. The Demon
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:08:10.000]: 16. Two for the Kill
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:14:10.000]: 17. Billy's Last Stand
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:15:50.000]: 18. Dutch and the Demon
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:18:27.000]: 19. The Alien's Weakness
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:20:55.000]: 20. The Trap and the Trophies
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:25:09.000]: 21. The Challenge
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:34:32.000]: 22. One Ugly...
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:35:49.000]: 23. Duel
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:39:59.000]: 24. The Last Laugh
[18:33:03] Chapter name at [01:42:56.000]: 25. End Titles
[18:33:06] Subtitle track #27 name: [BRA]
[18:33:06] Loading external subtitles: (eng) - Predator.720p.BluRay.DTS.x264.aZA.mkv.chapters.eng.srt

deank

21st February 2010, 21:48

Neither you or alimao follow the rules of the forum and I won't discuss it any further.

alimao

21st February 2010, 21:53

sorry DEANK is for discussing what here?
I'm reporting a bug in your program!
good is not the forum for that ? I do not know what it is for this topic sorry

deank

21st February 2010, 21:57

Read the rules of the forum (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm) and especially point 6:

6) No warez, cracks, serials or illegally obtained copyrighted content! Links to content of a questionable nature (e.g. anything you don't own and/or have downloaded), asking for, offering, or asking for help/helping to process such content in any way or form is not tolerated.

I'd rather have this thread clean and not closed because of posts about downloaded/not-owned material.

Dean

alimao

21st February 2010, 22:02

ok understood
can you explain then that error is that?
[16:09:04] No valid information found! (00000.mpls) ...
[16:09:04] *** Failed!
[16:09:19] *** Checking playlists and media dependencies ...
[16:09:19] *** [00000.m2ts] xp, fps [00:00:00.000]

crl2007

21st February 2010, 22:17

sorry DEANK is for discussing what here?
I'm reporting a bug in your program!
good is not the forum for that ? I do not know what it is for this topic sorry

To discuss about editing, encoding, authoring, re-authoring legal materials, not the ones obtained from illegal sources.

As far as your error goes, try checking the subtitle with Subtitle Workshop. Press CTRL+I and you'll see a list of possible errors. Remove any unwanted tags like <b></b> <font> etc, except <i> - that's for italics- and rename it something like movie.srt. If everything fails, check too see if java is installed, or use easysup to create a pgs.

l.e. And make sure it is ANSI, not something else.

deank

22nd February 2010, 18:10

I was spending some time this afternoon, thinking how to implement the cool popBD feature into multiAVCHD... And I did it...

multiAVCHD now supports splitting the output up to 1000 volumes. What does it mean? It means that you can use multiAVCHD as you did before, but if you use only ONE file ([f] mode) or playlist ([m] / [p] modes or DVD title [d] or Audio title [a]) you'll get the option to split the output in volumes.

In case you're using playlists, output will be split in as many volumes as the count of the playitems in your playlist (i.e. the number of the m2ts files).

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_volsplit1.jpg

In case you're using [f] mode (files or full-playlist processing) volume size is defined by the value of MEDIA SPLIT option in Author tab.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_volsplit3.jpg

Since the VOLUME SPLIT is performed at the end of the compilation, all of the volumes will get the MENU, SETUP and CHAPTER pages :) which is kind of cool. You'll see the split actions in the LOG box:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_volsplit2.jpg

***

An example of usage is splitting a big file to fit smaller media in few volumes: BD disc to 4-5 DVDs, 6GB file to 2 FAT32 4GB USB sticks, etc... This new option allows you not to bother with transcoding and fitting your videos, but spanning it to multiple media.

Splitting to multiple volumes takes just few seconds and each volume goes to a separate folder "VOL_001" ... "VOL_100" in the output folder of your compilation. If you use volumes, the original output BDMV folder is not needed anymore and you can delete it, since the movie .m2ts files are spread among the VOL folders.

Now, with the VOLUME SPLIT option ready, it is time to implement PLAYLIST MERGE option, which means that you'll be able to merge a number of playlists in one title (provided they have the same properties: resolution/framerate/codec...

***

There was a bug when no menu is created - creating of title-list menu crashes... Also no_menu+no_title_list_menu lead to creating of a title_list_menu and a crash. It is fixed.

Also, there is a new icon designed by drelin for multiAVCHD. You'll get all this a bit later. :) I need a bit more time to re-calculate the chapter marks for each split volume, otherwise it is ready.

Dean

VincAlastor

22nd February 2010, 20:59

can you add *.h264 as video input format beside *.264?

oh i have forgotten: very cool custom menu feature!!!

deank

22nd February 2010, 21:04

Yes, but then I'll need to make a copy of each .h264 to another .264 or rename the original... So it is easier for the user to rename the file before import, isn't it??

VincAlastor

22nd February 2010, 21:17

yes it is. thank you for custom menus. now i can play the trailers in background :) and if i don't show the title thumbnails, is it possible to see any direction buttons instead of?

zoner

22nd February 2010, 22:16

hi deank
i have a small request...is it possible to put the little square menu element on the right side of the text?
i write in hebrew, which is right to left and i cant allign it correctly because the square is at the end of every phrase, if not, how can i not use it at all?
thanks alot! :)

EDIT: changed opacity to zero, now its not visible and thats fine for me :)

deank

22nd February 2010, 22:38

I haven't though about right-to-left support. Let me think how it can be made. Then you will have a normal menu :)

jcrighton

23rd February 2010, 05:54

Hi,
i have used m-avchd occasionally and it worked fine but the last two disks i have tried have given me this error (both v3 and the latest v4 same thing) i am backing up my disks for travel and use anydvd hd to rip them:

[18:39:07] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[18:39:07] Destination [J:]: NTFS, 920457.31 MiB (898.884 GiB) free space
[18:39:07] Temp folder [J:]: NTFS, 920457.31 MiB (898.884 GiB) free space

[18:39:08] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 731)
[18:39:08] Selected output mode: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)

[18:39:08] Processing one title...
[18:39:08] Existing J:\DISK COPIES\Done\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[18:39:08] Output will be written to: J:\DISK COPIES\Done\AVCHD-20100222-183908
[18:39:08] Processing (J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts)...
[18:39:10] Detected frame reference count: 2 (max:4).
[18:39:10] Detected video: ID#4113:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=2
[18:39:10] Converting TrueHD audio to Dolby AC3 (eac3to), bitrate used: 640...
[18:39:14] eac3to refused to convert audio!
[18:39:14] Trying to demux it...
[18:58:15] Trying to convert TrueHD again with eac3to, bitrate used: 640...
[19:07:38] Succeess!
[19:07:38] Adding A_AC3 encoded audio track...
[19:07:38] Converting TrueHD audio to Dolby AC3 (eac3to), bitrate used: 640...
[19:07:53] eac3to refused to convert audio!
[19:07:53] Trying to demux it...
[19:27:34] Trying to convert TrueHD again with eac3to, bitrate used: 640...
[19:37:01] Succeess!
[19:37:01] Adding A_AC3 encoded audio track...
[19:37:01] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4354)
[19:37:01] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4355)
[19:37:01] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4356)
[19:37:01] Adding DTS audio track (ID#6656)
[19:37:01] Detected subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[19:37:01] Detected subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[19:37:01] Detected subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[19:37:01] Detected subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[19:37:01] Detected subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[19:37:01] Detected subtitles: ID#4613:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[19:37:01] Detected subtitles: ID#4614:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[19:37:01] Detected subtitles: ID#4615:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[19:37:01] Detected subtitles: ID#4616:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[19:37:01] Total of 8 tracks found in this file.
[19:37:01] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[19:37:01] Media split set at 3999MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 448Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 5): Bitrate: 448Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 6): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:04:55.083;00:09:50.166;00:14:45.250;00:19:40.333;00:24:35.416;00:29:30.500;00:34:25.583;00:39:20.666;00:44:15.750;00:49:10.833;00:54:05.916;00:59:01.000;01:03:56.083;01:08:51.166;01:13:46.250;01:18:41.333;01:23:36.416;01:28:31.500;01:33:26.583;01:38:21.666;01:43:16.750;01:48:11.833;01:53:06.916;01:58:01.000 --split-size=3999MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=23.976
A_AC3, "j:\mavchd temp\multitemp-20100222\00011.ac3", lang=und
A_AC3, "j:\mavchd temp\multitemp-20100222\00011.ac3", lang=und
A_AC3, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", track=4354, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
A_AC3, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", track=4355, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
A_AC3, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", track=4356, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
A_DTS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", track=6656, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
S_HDMV/PGS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4609, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4611, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4612, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4613, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4614, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4615, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4616, lang=und
===============================================================================
[19:37:13] Important files missing (clpi/mpls/m2ts)...
[19:37:13] Possible tsMuxeR failure to process your input file (J:\DISK COPIES\the international\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts).
[19:37:13] M2TS (media) file count: 1
[19:37:13] CLPI (clipinfo) file count: 0
[19:37:13] MPLS (playlist) file count: 0

[19:37:13] Skipping to next...

[19:37:13] ERROR: Compilation does not contain any HD-DVD/AVCHD/Blu-ray titles!

[19:37:13] Setting main menu for 0 titles...
[19:37:13] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[19:37:13] Setting Blu-ray format...
[19:37:15] Done!

Compilation summary:
Format: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
===============================================================================
Output size : 0 MiB (0 GiB)

[19:37:16] Warnings/errors for this compilation: 1
[19:37:16] J:\DISK COPIES\Done\AVCHD-20100222-183908 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[19:37:16] Burn its CONTENTS to BD-R/RE UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[19:37:18] You may now remove temp folder (J:\MAVCHD TEMP\multiTEMP-20100222\).

[19:37:18] multiAVCHD finished in 3490.647 seconds (00:58:10.647)!

[19:37:18] End of log.

[19:37:18] Cleaning up...
[19:37:18] Done!

i dont know if this has anything to do with it, but eac3to gives this error earlier when it says "...refused to convert audio": see image attached

any ideas why this is doing this?
thanks
JC

deank

23rd February 2010, 09:47

Try to untick the option [-] Convert TrueHD to AC3 in Subtitle&Audio tab. If you want the core of the TrueHD, open "PROPERTIES" for this file and in AUDIO tab select [x] Core only. Then give it a go.

deank

23rd February 2010, 12:21

Build 732:

* Volume split option when using one title/playlist (all output modes, except HD-DVD).
* 1000 volumes supported - useful for camcoder users to SPLIT big playlists with a lot of scenes to separate titles and then create custom playlists.
* Some fixes for [auto] 12 chapter setting. multiAVCHD will generate as many chapters as you decide.
* Fixes for menu generation (title list) when no main menu is selected
* New icon designed by drelin
* [Reset] button to load current defaults in Menu template window

Dean

rendez2k

23rd February 2010, 13:06

deank

23rd February 2010, 13:13

You assume wrong :) I posted about it in the previous page of the thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1376623#post1376623).

Each volume has all the properties of the original: the menu, chapter and setup menu pages, title list menu and a pop-up menu. Chapters are recalculated and work in each volume. Those chapters which are from another volume will simply play the current title from its start. :)

Volume split can be used in all modes, with or without a menu.

Dean

golfextreme

23rd February 2010, 21:26

Maybe this has been hit on already, but I'm not searching 227 pages to find the answer. Before the v4 update, I could easily use a high def mkv file and just convert and burn to a dvd that would play on PS3 with only stricter avchd compliance checked. Since the update, I can't get the discs to play on a PS3. What am I missing? I tried the loose and strict options on the convert type screen, but nothing worked.

drelin

24th February 2010, 00:46

@ all users,

About custom menus and "template" features on Multiavchd 4.0, see the thread on Multiavchd Forums :
http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?uid=59&f=8&t=903&start=0

I hope that you help customize your own creation :)

deank

24th February 2010, 15:07

Thanks drelin! The template packs are great. I added some changes to the menu preview - now the navigation boxes fit exactly the placeholders (in main menu preview).

#1
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8906/pack1.jpg

#2 [Appleseed]
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8232/pack2.jpg

#3
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/893/pack3.jpg

#4 [Kids]
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4093/pack4.jpg

#5 [Hi-Tech]
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6738/pack5.jpg

I included pack #2 as "Appleseed", #4 as "Kids" and #5 as "Hi-Tech" in the full download of multiAVCHD.

***

And another update:

Build 732+

* Few minor fixes
* Option to MERGE playlists (without merging the media).

Once multiAVCHD detects that the user has loaded ONLY [p] or [m] plalysts (more than 1) it will switch the 'transcode' button to 'merge playlists' button.

Clicking the button will make multiAVCHD merge all playlists in one, remove the loaded playlists from the compilation and load the newly created/merged one.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_plmerge.jpg

Merging will create one big playlist file from all imported playlists. All chapters are preserved, subpath items like menus and pop-ups are also copied and intact.

The resultant folder with the merged content can be used only by multiAVCHD. It cannot be played or used otherwise. Still you can process the merged playlist with other tools like eac3to and tsMuxeR.

[m] playlist contents (m2ts/clpi) (multiAVCHD compilations) will be moved to the merged folder if [x] Move transitional files option is checked
[p] playlists will get their contents copied and not moved unless you tick the extra option [x] all.

If contents are moved, merging takes less than 1 second even when merging 20 playlists (with a total of 200 m2ts files). :)

The merged folder is an intermediate and you must create a compilation out of it to get a playable/usable structure.

***

With these two options: VOLUME SPLIT and PLAYLIST MERGE multiAVCHD looks complete. These two provide endless possibilities to manage your playlists.

With the custom menu and the template packs users can create virtually any type of menu. Credits to drelin for all the ideas, testing and creativity!

Enjoy it :)

Dean

laserfan

24th February 2010, 15:44

For all the fancy menus people are building, is there any way to do a simple 1, 2, 3, 4 list of titles, with a static background image and menu audio? I tried yesterday but couldn't find anyway to make such a thing?

deank

24th February 2010, 16:34

Using the defaults in multiAVCHD should do it for you.

1) Load your files/titles
2) Select menu style in "Author" tab (XMB, Slide, Carousel)
3) Select bg picture in "Menu"/General
4) Select bg audio in "Menu"/Advanced
5) If you want static menu, make sure you have Default menu type: [static] in Menu/General and [-] Motion title thumbnail in Menu/Advanced (they are set to these values by default)

If you use multiAVCHD's defaults (delete your ini file or reset the options) the only things you need to do are steps 2, 3 and 4.

***

If by 'simple list of titles' you refer to what previously was "classic menu" - there is no such menu in version 4.0.

The fastest and simplest menu is "Title list menu" (you can untick [-] Create top menu and use [x] Add title-list menu). It is available as an EXTRA top-menu for faster navigation to a different title.

http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_tlm0.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_tlm1.jpg

Dean

laserfan

24th February 2010, 17:56

If by 'simple list of titles' you refer to what previously was "classic menu" - there is no such menu in version 4.0.

The fastest and simplest menu is "Title list menu" (you can untick [-] Create top menu and use [x] Add title-list menu). It is available as an EXTRA top-menu for faster navigation to a different title.Thanks Dean, I tried the 2nd method and it worked, but afaict it doesn't let me make a bg image or sound, and as for the other methods it too still requires choosing a thumbnail image and I didn't want to bother with that addt'l work (to pick a representative thumbnail for each episode). Maybe I can live with letting the program pick anything at all for thumbnails in which case I can try the first method you mention, though I do really like the Title list menu display (if only I could do bg image & audio).

BTW is there a way with this Title list menu to make the typeface larger than it is presently?

deank

24th February 2010, 18:24

No, TITLE LIST is the only menu that can't be configured by the user. I just restored BG audio to setup/chapters/title_list menu, so you'll have audio.

Also if the slider for "Title list BackGround complexity" is set to the most left position, the background image from MENU/GENERAL will be used as a background.

That will do it for now. :)

laserfan

24th February 2010, 18:37

Thank you--one more question for now: I am frequently encountering freezeups when looking for thumbnail images to use, when in a Titles dialog. multiAVCHD shows at bottom status bar e.g. "Preparing preview (00:26:41]..." but no CPU activity and I'm unable to get dialog to "OK" and ultimately have to End process and restart from the last project save I did. Any ideas about this? I run W7 x64 on a quadcore PC w/8Gb RAM. What is the mechanism that mA uses to make the preview window in that dialog?

I should add that the Source I'm using when "Preparing preview" appears & freezes is an m2ts with 1080p 264 vid, one ac3 audiotrack, one PGS sub, one Chapters.txt selected. And oddly, while I can get buttons to "highlight" e.g. Ok or Cancel or Close, and I can click tabs Audio, Subtitles, External Subtitles, etc. and get these windows to appear, and I can move the dialog around, I can't get it to close or get the proggie off this dialog.

deank

24th February 2010, 18:43

If it locks, try to kill x264/mx264 from task manager.

laserfan

24th February 2010, 18:53

Oh, I didn't see those down there! That was the problem; I'll try my regular x264 build and see if that helps.

It occurs to me BTW that your <<F and F>> are a bit too fine? Maybe you should seek I-frames exclusively? Just a thought.

deank

24th February 2010, 19:20

I'd suggest not to change the (m)x264 versions included!

<<F F>> used to move 1 second FWD and backward, but some users said it is not good enough, so I changed it to 1 frame ~41ms.

I'll add a "STEP" option and seeking will be easier. I had it few weeks ago, but it stays hidden :). Steps are: 1 frame, 100ms, 250ms, 500ms, 1 second, 5 seconds, 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute.

***

You may update your multiAVCHD - title list/chapters/setup have audio now and if complexity for title list menu is set to 0 - background will be used.

Dean

laserfan

24th February 2010, 19:24

Thanks I will try it.

>I'd suggest not to change the (m)x264 versions included!

Hmmm well since inserting my "regular" x264 build I've had no trouble w/freezeups where before most previews resulted in freezes. Anyway it's working well now and I am trying various of your "auto" settings for thumbnails & it's very cool. My only comment of these at this point is that auto-creating thumbnails based on chapter marks doesn't work for me as well as I'd like since many of my chapter marks are black! :p

deank

24th February 2010, 19:26

x264 is used for menu encoding, so if your build is not hdr/interlaced patched it may produce non-compliant avc streams.

Dean

VincAlastor

24th February 2010, 19:30

:thanks: deank and drelin

j-mas

24th February 2010, 20:56

Hallo Dean!

I have a problem with version 4.0.

I have 2 Blu-Ray Player Panasonic BD 60. I have HD video ts files, recorded with FireDTV from SKY Sport HD. I burn blu-ray with a LG blu ray burner.

I can do what I want, without menu, with menu, without welcome menu, with welcome menu, avchd strict or relaxed, motion menu or no motion menu, nothing will be played. The player say that I inserted an BD Disc and them go on STOP.

The whole last saturday and sunday I lost with testing, but nothing works. I´m frustrated.

With version avchd 3.0 both Player play the BD-Video.
So it seems it is a problem of the version 4.0.

I hope you can give me an advice how I can use version 4.0 with Panasonic BD 60 Blu-Ray Player.

Sorry for my bad english. I´m from Germany and its only school - english!

I he you can help me!!

Greetings

j-mas

deank

24th February 2010, 21:31

Advice #1: Use version 3.0 so you don't loose any more saturdays and sundays.

Advice #2: Update to the latest 732+ and try again.

Advice #3: Buy a Sony BDP player

Advice #4: Burn BD-R/BD-RW discs, not DVD

Dean

deank

24th February 2010, 22:03

A quick note about some changes in TITLE PROPERTIES, which I'll publish tomorrow:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_neTP.jpg

1) [Alter detected properties] button: Although multiAVCHD manages to detect input media properties in some rare cases it may be required to override the detected values (possible cases: wrong TFF/BFF interlacement, framerate, interlaced/progressive).

2) Scale for <<F and F>> buttons: it should make preview-seeking a bit easier when using larger scale.

Dean

j-mas

24th February 2010, 22:31

Hallo Dean!

Thank you for your quick advice. I`will try this.

Answer to advice # 4 : I burn on BD-R / BD-RW disk, and not on DVD.

Thank you very much. I hope it will work because your program avchd is very good from the functions and the looking of the menus. In worst case I will buy a Sony Blu-Ray Player

The new icon looks great.

j-mas

VincAlastor

24th February 2010, 22:59

is there a way that my background videos in custom menu play longer than 30 seconds? that is very important for me. all other things work fine! thanks

elmarikon

24th February 2010, 23:36

Dear deank!
First of all: great work you are doing! I have been using your tool for a while and have been desperately waiting for the motion menu to work.Well done!
But, correct me if I'm wrong: the motion menu (no matter if I choose NTSC or PAL system) will always be created in 23.976 fps?!
Is there a way to change that or even better not to have the background video re encoded if I use a user defined background video file?

Thanx in advance!

SwK

deank

24th February 2010, 23:52

is there a way that my background videos in custom menu play longer than 30 seconds? that is very important for me. all other things work fine! thanks

Since it is very important to you :) I'd say that the value of 32.323 seconds was arbitrary and it is possible to do other lengths. The cornerstone is the time it takes to 'create' a menu page. 32 seconds takes ~ 4-5 minutes (of acceptable time) on a normal PC. That's why I chose the length.

Also, a regular (mentally heathy) user would decide what to do in 30 seconds. If you're using multiAVCHD's output for commercial or any presentation purposes (not for home use), that's another story.

Dear deank!
First of all: great work you are doing! I have been using your tool for a while and have been desperately waiting for the motion menu to work.Well done!
But, correct me if I'm wrong: the motion menu (no matter if I choose NTSC or PAL system) will always be created in 23.976 fps?!
Is there a way to change that or even better not to have the background video re encoded if I use a user defined background video file?

You're, right. Menu is always generated in 24p no matter the TV system selection. Why would you need this to change? PAL players handle 23.976 (1080p) and NTSC love the format.

About 'not reencoding' the background: the same goes as for the welcome screen: you can always use your own videos for any menu page, provided you replace the 8***0.m2ts and 8***0.clpi files for the selected page (where *** is 001 to 252).

Dean

VincAlastor

25th February 2010, 00:28

Since it is very important to you :) I'd say that the value of 32.323 seconds was arbitrary and it is possible to do other lengths. The cornerstone is the time it takes to 'create' a menu page. 32 seconds takes ~ 4-5 minutes (of acceptable time) on a normal PC. That's why I chose the length.

Also, a regular (mentally heathy) user would decide what to do in 30 seconds. If you're using multiAVCHD's output for commercial or any presentation purposes (not for home use), that's another story.

Dean

i don't use it commercial... it were really nice...

Rudy A-Traxx

25th February 2010, 00:41

Hello Deank,

As I said in the past, I use AVCHD to make end film credits compilation (I'm very found of hi-def multicanal sound of film musics).

Each title I gathered (from 2 to 10 mn depend the film) had reasonnable length "chapters" in multiAVCHD (I had the impression it was dynamic - the less length, the less "Chapters" but maybe it was only an impression)

Anyway, recently after updating, the titles have all 12 (or so, I think) "chapters" wich is quite a lot for titles of the lenth I use...

So is there a possibility for me to desactivate it in the preferences (but I don't where, if it was possible) or somewhere, is there a way to choose the number of "Chapters" we'd like to have (inferior to 12 as for me).

Thanks

deank

25th February 2010, 01:10

You can do it in title PROPERTIES, Chapters, [auto] button.

multiAVCHD will generate as many chapter marks as you set. Since 732+ auto[12] is disabled, so you should get what you want.

flaviometal

25th February 2010, 01:16

Hello Dean! Sorry if this has been posted already, but I've searched the forums and can't find where it is...

I'm trying to convert one MKV movie with 2 internal subs and 1 external srt file. All 3 subs are working ok in the final project, but the problem is that the srt subs doesn't appear for selection in setup menu (just the internal ones insists to appear, and what I want is the 3 subs appearing for selection em setup menu). Is that normal?

I've already tried to "embed" the srt into mkv (with mkvtoolnix). The 3 selectable subs are in setup menu, but the character set doesn't seems to be ok with the srt sub (I'm from Brazil and the special characters like "´" , "~" or "Ç" doesn't seems to be good...)

Thanks in advance!

deank

25th February 2010, 01:37

No, it is not normal to have only the internal to appear. I'll check it later today.

About the non-ansi characters, try to open your srt subtitle file in notepad or Subtitle Workshop and re-save it as ANSI. If your windows is properly configured for non-unicode support it should be ok.

jcrighton

25th February 2010, 03:10

Try to untick the option [-] Convert TrueHD to AC3 in Subtitle&Audio tab. If you want the core of the TrueHD, open "PROPERTIES" for this file and in AUDIO tab select [x] Core only. Then give it a go.

thanks for the help. this does work, but only if i remove all audio tracks except the main one. i tried removing only the other HD tracks (french, spanish,portugese) and leaving the two 2 channel tracks, but the same error shows up, even with 'core' selected (it seems to default select 'core' for those tracks too).
does this sound right, or should i be able to keep a 'directors commentary'-type 2 channel track as well?

flaviometal

25th February 2010, 03:14

In Title #1 properties, the only subs that appear on setup menu (in preview mode) are the MKV "embedded" ones. If I remove all the subs and add a srt (external), none sub appear in setup menu. I've tried with 2 different movies.

Another problem with me is when I set transparency to zero in "Setup Menu Transparency", the option "Subtitles OFF" doesn't appear on Setup menu preview. When I set transparency to default, the option is there.

AJ500

25th February 2010, 03:14

Can chapters be automatically created from Sony camcorder m2ts files that are joined via the "Join MPG / M*TS..." tab?

The Join creates 3 media files; camdump.264, camdump.txt, and camdump.und.ac3.
The log says "Loading external chapter file: camdump.txt"...;
Then "No thumbnails/chapter links defined!"

Do I need to manually edit the camdump.txt file to define chapter points?

In my test case, the camdump.txt has these entries:
<Chapters>
<EditionEntry>
<ChapterAtom>
<ChapterTimeStart>00:00:00.000</ChapterTimeStart>
<ChapterDisplay>
<ChapterString>Clip 1</ChapterString>
</ChapterDisplay>
</ChapterAtom>
<ChapterAtom>
<ChapterTimeStart>00:00:05.536</ChapterTimeStart>
<ChapterDisplay>
<ChapterString>Clip 2</ChapterString>
</ChapterDisplay>
</ChapterAtom>
</EditionEntry>
</Chapters>

deank

25th February 2010, 09:35

@AJ: You need to go to title properties / chapters and [use] the chapter file. You'll see the button.

Eliéser

25th February 2010, 10:13

Excellent program, makes my PS3 forget that it also plays games. :thanks:

Question: it is possible the title thumbnail also be in the "trailer-like" style?

Maybe with two random sequence fields (ex: 1 8 2 7 3 6 5 4 for background video; 4 3 8 1 6 2 7 5 for title thumbnail).

Then you can have static background and a trailer-like title thumbnail. I'm posting this because the present "linear" motion title thumbnail not always shows the most recognizable parts.

Anyhow, thanks again and congratulations!

PS: Sorry my bad english.

Music Fan

25th February 2010, 10:20

Hi dean,
I made some tests a few days ago and I have some remarks and suggestions.

PAL players handle 23.976 (1080p)
Yes, but the player switch between 23.976 hz (or 60 hz when 24 hz is unchecked in the player's setup) and 50 hz, and it lasts a few seconds (because of Hdmi re-synchronization), which make sometimes lose the debut of the title.
Thus, a 50hz menu in Pal mode would be useful.

-with audio titles in DTS HD and Dolby True HD, I checked "core only" but it remained in HD (my receiver showed it).
I don't remember if "use eac3to" was checked, that's maybe the explanation.

-also with audio titles : the subtitle track which shows its name is a very good idea, but it lasts 30 seconds. Could that last for the whole song, whatever its duration ?

-will you add the chapter menu for AVCHD strict mode or we have to use build 729 for that feature ?

-for the backround image of the menu, when a non 16/9 image is loaded, it's stretched to 16/9 : could you add an option to center it, thus let it in its native format, adding black bars around it ?

Thanks a lot.;)

deank

25th February 2010, 11:36

Ghitulescu

25th February 2010, 11:48

You're, right. Menu is always generated in 24p no matter the TV system selection. Why would you need this to change? PAL players handle 23.976 (1080p) and NTSC love the format.

Is a game of two here, if the TV doesn't support 24Hz it would revert to 60i and the player would output then 60i. This issue is most relevant with LCD than with plasma, logic, now, that plasmas are extinct ;)

Just a side comment

Music Fan

25th February 2010, 12:26

You can add your own subtitle track and have the names appear as long as you wish. I'm not a fan of burning pixels on my TV by having a text onscreen for 5-10-20 minutes :)

Background picture: I think users can spend some time preparing the content for authoring. I can't keep adding options for everything.

Chapter/setup pages for [Restricted] mode - I said I'll try to add them. Still working on it.

PAL/NTSC: There is a change in AUTHOR tab. User can now choose between: [PAL] [NTSC] [PAL 24p].

[PAL] will make your BD player stay at 50Hz while displaying the menu (1080i).

[NTSC] and [PAL 24p] will produce 24p menus (1080p).

Also a scale drop-down is available in title properties for <<F and F>> buttons (from 1 frame to 30 mins).

Dean
Thanks !
For the subtitle track, as it is interactive, we can remove it (with the subtitle touch on remote) if we are afraid to burn our screen.
I guess that you could let the choice of the duration of this subtitle track (for example, 2 choices : 30 seconds or the whole track), but it's one more option, and as you said, you can't keep adding options for everything, I understand.
But if you can add it later ... ;)
I'm not gonna create my own subtitle track for that, it's not that important.

VincAlastor

25th February 2010, 12:45

some days ago, we spoke about a "custom play button" for self made trailers or documentation... because that isn't simple to integrate, i want to play these types of .m2ts in my custom background of some menu pages. that's all, nothing with commercial or presentation ...for me, power point does a good job.
do you change the 32 sec limit in video stream length of custom backgrounds, if i uncheck "motion thumbnails"? - i understand your answer not really... was that a "yes, i will let decide length by custom bg a/v" or a "no, i'm sorry"? ...sorry :)

elmarikon

25th February 2010, 12:46

Since it is very
You're, right. Menu is always generated in 24p no matter the TV system selection. Why would you need this to change? PAL players handle 23.976 (1080p) and NTSC love the format.

About 'not reencoding' the background: the same goes as for the welcome screen: you can always use your own videos for any menu page, provided you replace the 8***0.m2ts and 8***0.clpi files for the selected page (where *** is 001 to 252).
Dean

Right. The rate is supported, but when switching between framerates, my projector (Panasonic PT-D 7000) makes awwwwwwful things and stays black for about a second... So I was hoping, there would be a different solution.
I already tried replacing files as you notice. But it seems they have to have the same length then, rite?!

Thanx and all the best!
SwK

deank

25th February 2010, 13:03

some days ago, we spoke was that a "yes, i will let decide length by custom bg a/v" or a "no, i'm sorry"? ...sorry :)

It will stay as it is at the moment. If I find time for it I'll see what I can do.

Right. The rate is supported, but when switching between framerates, my projector (Panasonic PT-D 7000) makes awwwwwwful things and stays black for about a second... So I was hoping, there would be a different solution.
I already tried replacing files as you notice. But it seems they have to have the same length then, rite?!

If you check just few posts above you'd read that there is a change and PAL/NTSC settings are honored now.

Dean

drelin

25th February 2010, 13:24

I'm not sure, I've just make a quick test yesterday (at very late time 3h AM), :) but It seems that audio background for SETUP and CHAPTER menus is played only one time without loop playback.

I'm wrong or not ?
I'll make other test tonight.

deank

25th February 2010, 13:34

Yes, it is played only once and it can't be changed.

elmarikon

25th February 2010, 13:50

It will stay as it is at the moment. If I find time for it I'll see what I can do.

If you check just few posts above you'd read that there is a change and PAL/NTSC settings are honored now.

Dean

Gresát!#
Thanx!
I give it a try right away!
Greets to Sophia!

deank

25th February 2010, 15:24

A short note about the next update (733). It will require full-download or DAT-update. It is needed because of additions for [AVCHD strict] output mode, which uses pre 730 menu muxing, for compatibility with some Panasonic players. It will support one page of 12 chapters per title (at least for now).

Also, there was this option for page numbering in the old THM menu. It is back, but used for numbering the chapter pages. You'll find the option in "EXTENDED" sub-tab of MENU tab.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_chapnumber.jpg

It will put x/y information in the right corner of the chapter-thumb box.

deank

25th February 2010, 18:20

You can update now to 733.

[AVCHD strict] output supports 1 chapter page with 12 chapters, menu templates and everything available in the relaxed mode (except setup and title list menus).

Dean

Music Fan

25th February 2010, 18:46

Thanks, I will try it.
I tried the Pal menu and it's still in 60 hz.

Music Fan

25th February 2010, 19:11

It's weird, my tv detects 60 hz on the menu.

For the update of the DAT, is this version the last one ?
http://rapidshare.com/files/355766256/multiAVCHD-DAT.exe

I also tried the full download on videohelp but it's still the 732 version.

deank

25th February 2010, 19:14

Yes, this is the DAT.

The only difference is that clpi/mpls files are not marked as interlaced (because the video is progressive anyway - just like it was before). What player/TV are you using?

Music Fan

25th February 2010, 19:44

Panasonic BD35 on plasma LG 50PS3000.
The titles in 50 hz are well recognized as 50 hz ; only the menu is detected as 60 hz by my tv.

elmarikon

25th February 2010, 19:56

Well... the menu is definitely encoded in 25fps.

Good to hear, but I have some Problems in understanding, what it does to a custom background video file.
Every time it comes out with a different duration than the input file. Actually it is being cut 'randomly', even if i check the "use as is" option.

I also did try the way of replacing the 80010.m2ts file with my custom menu. And it seems to come out differently every time...:confused:

Would you consider a 'just pass my background video through without reencoding or sth." option?!

All the best so far!

deank

25th February 2010, 20:47

Panasonic BD35 on plasma LG 50PS3000.
The titles in 50 hz are well recognized as 50 hz ; only the menu is detected as 60 hz by my tv.

Did you actually try to burn "Blu-ray" output from multiAVCHD to a DVD disc? I wonder how so many people backup BD discs and it works in their dumb panasonic players?! I'll be damned if it turns out I wasted few days with implementing the 'old' pre 730 menus.

Also simple tests you can perform to help yourself (and me) is to change resolution of the menu files with BDedit to 1080i and see what will happen.

ould you consider a 'just pass my background video through without reencoding or sth." option?!

No. I don't need tons of questions everyday because users tweak multiAVCHD's output and then ask "WHAT is going on?" and "Why I get =disc=unrecognized= errors?".

Dean

Music Fan

25th February 2010, 21:03

Did you actually try to burn "Blu-ray" output from multiAVCHD to a DVD disc?
Yes but my Panasonic cannot play BD-5, I have to choose AVCHD strict mode.
I tested the new Pal menu with build 732, just before you spoke about the last update (today at 18:20). But there was already "Pal 24", and I chose Pal, thus it should have worked.
I'm trying to download de last DAT on Rapidshare for hours, but I can't, "the slots are busy, try again later".

deank

26th February 2010, 09:11

Yes but my Panasonic cannot play BD-5, I have to choose AVCHD strict mode.
I tested the new Pal menu with build 732, just before you spoke about the last update (today at 18:20). But there was already "Pal 24", and I chose Pal, thus it should have worked.
I'm trying to download de last DAT on Rapidshare for hours, but I can't, "the slots are busy, try again later".

I just added few more things and the menu should be in 25fps/50hz. Make sure you have the last update. Chapter and Setup pages were still encoded in 23.976, but not should be okay.

The correct build should be dated 9:22CET

rendez2k

26th February 2010, 10:44

I tried compressing a 1280 MKV last night which was just over DVD-R size. It ended up still being too big to write to DVD and I noticed the quality was noticeably worse in some places (used the default 1-pass insane). Are there better settings to correct these two issues?

deank

26th February 2010, 10:53

Turbo profile is better. How big the oversize? With menu or not? With DTS or AC3 audio?

Music Fan

26th February 2010, 10:55

Thanks, it works now, the menu is well in 50 hz ! And the chapters menu also works. ;)

I met some little problems today or recently ;
-with an audio title, which is a 7.1 wav, the duration is set to 3 seconds though its real duration is 15 seconds. So, my player plays it during 3 seconds.
-the "core only" option doesn't work with True HD and DTS HD, even when the sound is in a video, and not only alone as an audio title.
-with some titles (maybe audio titles), the duration is asked, and if the path of this file is too long, I don't see its name in the log, thus I don't know which file it is and I can't put a duration.
-the size estimation is sometimes completely false (3 times the real size of the project).

A few months ago, I made a top menu with several images (one for each title) by page ; I believe there was 3 lines with 2 images on the first and on the third (last) lines and 3 images on the second. I don't find this menu anymore.
What was the name of this kind of menu ? Will it come back ?

rendez2k

26th February 2010, 11:16

Turbo profile is better. How big the oversize? With menu or not? With DTS or AC3 audio?

It was a tiny fraction over - output came to 4.47gb. Had a menu and 99% sure it was AC3.

So would the turbo profile in theory give me better quality?

Edit: sorry, it was in fact DTS!

elmarikon

26th February 2010, 12:25

No. I don't need tons of questions everyday because users tweak multiAVCHD's output and then ask "WHAT is going on?" and "Why I get =disc=unrecognized= errors?".
Dean

There must be some misunderstanding!
Actually i was not tweaking anything.
I was just following your suggestions, and trying to find out, what happens to the custom background video, because it turns out to have a different duration every time I try...
And I didn't mention anything about "disc=unrecognized= errors"

Wouldn't it make sens to just pass through the background video, if it is already in the right format?! There is no need to reencode, right!?

All the best so far!

deank

26th February 2010, 13:17

-the "core only" option doesn't work with True HD and DTS HD, even when the sound is in a video, and not only alone as an audio title.

A few months ago, I made a top menu with several images
What was the name of this kind of menu ? Will it come back ?

I'll check again about [x] core option, but the last time it worked just fine.

The menu was "Thumbnail" menu and, no, it is replaced by Title List menu in ver 4.0.

So would the turbo profile in theory give me better quality?

Yes, Insane is for testing, although it is not such a bad profile. Turbo or 1pass is what you need.

New menu size (ver 4.0 menus) are not calculated and may cause oversize. Always allow ~15-20mb per title.

Dean

peppies

26th February 2010, 13:22

Hello guys, I couldn't find anyone addressing this issue, but it was driving me absolutely crazy for a couple of weeks. Hopefully my post helps someone having similar problems. I was getting a lot of these two errors when encoding menus:

"Failed to extract title thumbnail for title #1."
"Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100220\20100220-015724-MM001.264)"

As per advice in these forums I reinstalled Haali, AviSynt & Dshow multiple times including cleaning the registries, clean installs, different combinations, nothing worked for me. I tried different settings in multiAVCHD itself to no avail. I don't know about you guys but I do not burn my compilations to DVD4 or DVD9, and I keep my video files at approx 7,7 GB so that I could fit 3 movies on one BD-R (25GB). You know what saved me? The m2ts split option set to 0!

As a default in new multiAVCHD this option was set to 4GB and it seems that was the whole problem. Somehow it didn't like to split my files into 4GB chunks. Although switching to 0 got rid of errors and I can now have all menus done correctly, I understand that files bigger than 4GB are not FAT32 compliant. Anyone ever had this problem? Thanks and sorry for my lengthy post.

rendez2k

26th February 2010, 13:59

Yes, Insane is for testing, although it is not such a bad profile. Turbo or 1pass is what you need.

New menu size (ver 4.0 menus) are not calculated and may cause oversize. Always allow ~15-20mb per title.
Dean

Thanks Dean. I only used insane as thats the default option when you select fit to media. Would I get even better results with 2-pass encodes? I'm concerned about the noticeable blockiness introduced on the re-encode the other day.

Puki

26th February 2010, 14:27

Hi Dean,

obviously it's here more discussion at doom9 than at multiAVCHD-forum... :rolleyes:

So I'm going to post here unless I have to post attachments. ;)

Bulid 733+ (.exe: 26.02. 10:22 / .dat 25.02. 18:12):

when I use "Preview" (below "Transcode") in "title properties", I get 3x3 thumbs not relating to the time-stamps in tab "Menu thumbnails".

It does'n matter if I use "default" or "auto". The time between two preview-thumbs is about 1 min 4 sec.

Regards

Puki

drpaulng

26th February 2010, 16:11

cwh060

26th February 2010, 17:03

peppies,

"Failed to extract title thumbnail for title #1."
"Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100220\20100220-015724-MM001.264)"

I have this exact problem (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=884&start=0), when creating static menu's. I will try your solution.

Update, didn't help, still get it.

[11:09:18] Preparing menu pages...
[11:09:18] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/2] [Static title thumbnail].
[11:09:21] Cannot detect file size: (C:\Program Files (x86)\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100226\20100226-110859-MM001.264)

cwh

Puki

26th February 2010, 17:15

This kind of "preview" is only for your reference: seeing most of the scenes of a movie, have a brief overview - it is not used for authoring.

:thanks: drpaulng for explanation!

@Dean: wouldn't it be useful to show the thumbs in this preview according to the chapter-timestamps?

Regards

Puki

deank

26th February 2010, 17:23

No, there are enough of menu previews already. This was the first added just for quick glimpse of the video - that's it.

***

Here is something you may find interesting. Although it is very experimental it works (here).

When you load multiAVCHD compilation, which contains a menu, a prompt will appear if you want to keep it from re-encoding.

It means that WHEN and IF possible, some menu pages will not be reencoded, saving hours and hours for big compilations. Using the option makes sense only when using more than 5 titles in a compilation.

If you change ANYTHING about a title - in title properties, or REMOVE a title or MOVE a title UP/DOWN in the list, all its 'neighbor' menu pages will be marked for reencoding. Neighbors are 3 titles preceding the changed one and 3 titles after it. I may add an option to override the neighbor re-encoding when adding titles to the end of the compilation. Then the option will make sense even with less than 5 titles, but you won't see the next (newly added) title on the preceding menu page. Scrolling down (in XMB) or right (in Slide/Carousel) will show the page, of course.

For example, if you have a compilation of 30 titles and ADD one at the end, menu pages for titles 1 to 27 will be used as they are and 28 to 30 + the new one will be encoded.

Processing of the thumbnails in HDAVCTN folder is now faster (~10-20 times) and chapter#1 will not be re-extracted when not needed (it was a bug).

Keeping the menu feature may work for builds after 732 (or even 730 if you used default settings for XMB or SLIDE menu and your current menu configuration matches the old compilation)

Give it a try and let me know.

//

A quick comparison with one of my favorite compilations (45GB 11 titles): (all operations performed on an external USB HDD) (created with default XMB settings in build 730RC)

With reencoding the menu (1hr 19mins)
[15:35:43] multiAVCHD finished in 4733 seconds (01:18:53)!

Without reencoding (13 times faster: 6mins)
[20:23:24] multiAVCHD finished in 355.963 seconds (00:05:55.962)!

\\

You will know that a menu page is NOT being re-encoded when you see * Muxing message in the log for chapter and setup pages:

[13:08:47] Preparing menu pages...
[13:08:47] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/4] [Static title thumbnail].
[13:08:48] * Muxing static XMB menu page [1/4]: Chapter page [1/1] [80011.m2ts]
[13:08:50] * Muxing static XMB menu page [1/4]: Setup page (audio/subtitle) [80019.m2ts]

[13:08:51] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/4] [Static title thumbnail].
[13:08:56] * Muxing static XMB menu page [2/4]: Chapter page [1/1] [80021.m2ts]
[13:08:57] * Muxing static XMB menu page [2/4]: Setup page (audio/subtitle) [80029.m2ts]

The line "Encoding.." for the main menu page is always the same, it is just FASTER! :)

Dean

p.s. Also, it is now possible to load AUDIO folders.

p.s.2 Adding a pop-up menu to existing compilation now takes 3-4 seconds, no matter how many titles are in it (compared to 10-40 seconds before).

p.s.3 Each title will get its menu options saved in the project file from now on (even when not using templates). This will make re-using menu files without reencoding possible for the future builds.

deank

27th February 2010, 13:29

Few important fixes:

* Fixed a bug, which caused multiAVCHD to crash when using hidden titles

* When a hidden title is #1 in the compilation, playback will not return to menu when default playback sequence is [Go to menu] but player will lock/crash - fixed.

* Fixed wrong OID parameter in the project file, when loading existing compilations, containing hidden titles, to be used without re-encoding the untouched menu pages.

* Fixed wrong POSTER parameter in the project file, causing an error when loading a finished project file with custom poster images.

* Fixed processing of .ass files (typo in the code reversed the logic and all successfully processed .ass files were rejected and all the failed ones were accepted :) )

* When asking for audio title duration, multiAVCHD will print the file name (without path) in the log, before the prompt appears

* Fixed processing of thumbnails in HDAVCTN folder when using hidden titles

* Added experimental option (not saved in the .ini) in Menu/Extended tab: [-] Never re-encode unchanged neighbor menu pages. Never = avoid, but sometimes it still may be needed.

I think I fixed some other things, but my programming kit locked this afternoon and I lost everything since 21:30 last night, so I can't remember all the fixes. Still all are there. :)

Music Fan

27th February 2010, 13:55

* When asking for audio title duration, multiAVCHD will print the file name (without path) in the log, before the prompt appears
Thanks for your reactivity ;)

badmen

27th February 2010, 15:08

I'd like to see if the menu structure

deank

27th February 2010, 16:18

Me too... :confused:

***

It is almost ready... When you import a compilation which has HDAVCTN folder, the preview will show the real pictures for titles and chapters, not the boring multiavchd.deanbg.com logo:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_xmb_real_preview.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sli_real_preview.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_car_real_preview.jpg

And it applies to custom menus, too:
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_cus_real_preview.jpg

:) much better than before...

***

You can now update to build 734.

Music Fan

27th February 2010, 17:41

I made a new test by curiosity, always in strict mode because of my Panasonic player : I checked only "add title-list menu", no top menu, and my player cannot play the disc. He tries but can't launch the first title and stops.
As I chose "strict AVCHD mode", I believed it would be like if I hadn't checked "title-list menu" because it is supposed to be ignored.

deank

27th February 2010, 17:58

There must be something else wrong. Title list has nothing to do with it anymore. Your compilation has only one of each m2ts/mpls/clpi files and it can't affect the playback. That is if you use a new file and not some old test folder, which has popup or other stuff from version 4.0. I'll take a look again.

***

You're right... it is fixed now... There is an invalid playlist reference (which is never executed) in the 1st title in movieobject.bdmv. It seems panasonic does a LOT of checks before going on. :)

maldino800

27th February 2010, 20:17

Hi Dean
I want to add more family font,to multiAVCHD ,can you explain how to add new font ?

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7414/fontr.png

deank

27th February 2010, 20:32

By clicking where your arrow points.

maldino800

27th February 2010, 20:44

By clicking where your arrow points.

I mean this method http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=52

But it is not working for me,i do not know why?

Puki

27th February 2010, 21:44

Hi Dean,

I'm using 734 of today.

In my opinion the motion thumb is actually created right from the very beginning of the video, mostly the title of the video is shown.
If I remember right, then it was in earlier builds that you didn't use the first and the last 10% of the video to create motion thumbs, right?

The background is created as it was earlier.

Any possibility to change back as it was?

Best regards

Puki

deank

27th February 2010, 22:15

You remember wrong. It is as it was before and as it always was - 00:00:15.000 - 00:00:47.320.

Puki

27th February 2010, 22:37

You remember wrong. It is as it was before and as it always was - 00:00:15.000 - 00:00:47.320.

Thanks Dean for your statement! My hair is much more grey than yours, so please accept my appology ;)

BTW: I've just got this error (see attachment) when pressing "<<<" on menu preview (last title, I wanted to go to the last but one), then multiAVCHD crashed...

Regards

Puki

P.S: Until approval of the pic:

(RT) Cannot make a visible modal - Line 12093

deank

27th February 2010, 23:01

Puki

27th February 2010, 23:13

:rolleyes:

I managed to get this error only once and never again. I think it has something to do with the available memory or something. Can you find a way to get it each time you do what you do?

"Scrolling" thru titles is done always the same way, no matter if you're at the first title, browsing to the last with <<< or you're at the last browsing to the first one with >>>. Just to be sure, use multiUPDATE.exe to get the last build.

Right now I'm creating a huge compilation over the night, so I come back tomorrow.

Do you can give me any hint for using DVB-HD files? I'm getting massive probs, probably because changing of audio (the files aren't perfect cut, so some minutes of the movie before and after are within the file) and / or that *#$%!-teletext-streams...

I've got lots of errors like

[22:44:11] Important files missing (clpi/mpls/m2ts)...
[22:44:11] Possible tsMuxeR failure to process your input file (Z:\Dreambox HD\Akte X - Jenseits der Wahrheit (HD).ts).
[22:44:11] M2TS (media) file count: 1
[22:44:11] CLPI (clipinfo) file count: 0
[22:44:11] MPLS (playlist) file count: 0

It's not urgent, because I will let my PC work through the night... :rolleyes:

Best regards

Puki

deank

27th February 2010, 23:19

The only way to troubleshoot such errors is to send me a sample of the file... Or load it in tsmuxerGUI and process it - it will report the error :)

deank

27th February 2010, 23:37

There was this glitch with SLIDE menu: Motion title thumbnail reflection will stuck after 10 seconds and won't actually reflect the main title thumbnail video for the remaining 22 seconds of menu video. It was just fixed.

Dean

Puki

27th February 2010, 23:39

The only way to troubleshoot such errors is to send me a sample of the file... Or load it in tsmuxerGUI and process it - it will report the error :)

How can I send such a large file to you? Please tell me how to cut it that it is not crippeled by cutting ;)

Unfortunately tsMuxeRGUI shows error on loading such a file:

- I have used the exact same options as multiAVCHD shows in the log (MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr etc.)

- on loading a (problematic) DVB-HD-ts-file tsMuxeRGUI shows an error:

Unsupported format

Some tracks not recognized. This track was ignored. File name: Z:\Dreambox HD\Akte X - Jenseits der Wahrheit (HD).ts"

-BUT when clicking the error away then the file IS recognized (sometimes only the video-stream, sometimes video- and audio-stream) and I can process it with tsMuxeRGUI...

Regards

Puki

deank

27th February 2010, 23:43

Puki

27th February 2010, 23:49

The error you get is probably because of unrecognized dvb/teletext subtitle stream. I'll need a log from multiAVCHD which shows the actual meta file parsed to tsMuxeR. The problem can be replicated when you use the exact same meta file.

This ist the log of multiAVCHD:

[22:43:17] Processing (Z:\Dreambox HD\Akte X - Jenseits der Wahrheit (HD).ts)...
[22:43:19] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[22:43:19] Detected video: ID#1279:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[22:43:19] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#1283)
[22:43:19] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[22:43:19] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[22:43:19] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.0 Resolution: 1920:1080i Frame rate: 25
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=25
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
B-pyramid level 2 detected. Shift DTS to 3 frames
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 384Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:00,000. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 384Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:10:35.000;00:21:10.000;00:31:45.000;00:42:20.000;00:52:55.000;01:03:30.000;01:14:05.000;01:24:40.000;01:35:15.000;01:45:50.000;01:56:25.000 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Z:\Dreambox HD\Akte X - Jenseits der Wahrheit (HD).ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=1279, fps=25.000
A_AC3, "Z:\Dreambox HD\Akte X - Jenseits der Wahrheit (HD).ts", track=1283, lang=deu, timeshift=478826ms
===============================================================================
[22:44:11] Important files missing (clpi/mpls/m2ts)...
[22:44:11] Possible tsMuxeR failure to process your input file (Z:\Dreambox HD\Akte X - Jenseits der Wahrheit (HD).ts).
[22:44:11] M2TS (media) file count: 1
[22:44:11] CLPI (clipinfo) file count: 0
[22:44:11] MPLS (playlist) file count: 0

[22:44:11] Skipping to next...

And this is the log of tsMuxeRGUI (still running at the moment):

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.0 Resolution: 1920:1080i Frame rate: 25
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=25
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
B-pyramid level 2 detected. Shift DTS to 3 frames
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units

And this is the GUI-meta-file:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000;00:10:00.000;00:15:00.000;00:20:00.000;00:25:00.000;00:30:00.000;00:35:00.000;00:40:00.000;00:45:00.000;00:50:00.000;00:55:00.000;01:00:00.000 --split-size=4GB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Z:\Dreambox HD\Akte X - Jenseits der Wahrheit (HD).ts", fps=25, insertSEI, contSPS, track=1279

The source is exactly the same.

I'm really wondering why multiAVCHD lets tsMuxeR recognize the audio-stream while the tsMuxeRGUI doesn't... :confused:

BTW: I have removed in title properties the second audio stream and the teletext-stream before starting multiAVCHD.

If you want I will do any test you want ;)

Regards!

Puki

deank

28th February 2010, 00:02

multiAVCHD parses to tsMuxeR a meta with everything which is detected and should be processed by tsMuxeR. For some reason tsMuxeR won't accept the audio track (it is not a fault in multiAVCHD).

I guess it is a result of some editing of the file (cutting??) which broke the AC3 stream at the worst possible packet (as a header packet).

The editor software is to take the blame (you used one). Does it happen with raw unprocessed files from your DV recorder?

Puki

28th February 2010, 00:15

The file I've used in this case is exact the file as it was recorded by my dreambox.

I took the .ts-file and got the result.

This file contained (according to title properties) two audio-streams and a teletext-stream.

I just started tsMuxeR right now again (without GUI, what's new for me) and tsMuxeR accepted the file with the meta just copied out of the multiAVCHD-log, BUT:

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Puki\Desktop\PS3\TSMuxer>tsmuxer meta.txt Z:\test.ts
SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.0 Resolution: 1920:1080i Frame rate: 25
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=25
0.0% complete
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
B-pyramid level 2 detected. Shift DTS to 3 frames
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
5.5% complete
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 384Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:00,000. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 384Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
6.4% complete
Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: Z:\Dreambox HD\Akte X - Jenseits der Wahrheit (HD).ts

So this seems to be the reason. I think these 6,4% are according to the time between "Media split set..." and "Important files missing..." in the log.

Do you have any hint how to avoid this buffer overflow?

Sorry for these questions in the middle of the night - just say good night and I can go to bed :D

Puki

28th February 2010, 00:53

Hi Dean,

I just found something "weired" :confused:

On top of the tsMuxeR-window (opened by multiAVCHD) it says C:\multiAVCHD\tools\tsmuxer199.exe and in the window it begins with "SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.9.9..."

In the log of multiAVCHD it's version 1.10.6 (the one I also use separately).

This is the log of this moment:

[00:40:59] Processing (Z:\Dreambox HD\Haus über Kopf (HD).ts)...
[00:41:00] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[00:41:00] Detected video: ID#255:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[00:41:01] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#259)
[00:41:01] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[00:41:01] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[00:41:01] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
PROCESSING ERROR: No data received from tsMuxeR!
Trying again...
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:08:44.833;00:17:29.666;00:26:14.500;00:34:59.333;00:43:44.166;00:52:29.000;01:01:13.833;01:09:58.666;01:18:43.500;01:27:28.333;01:36:13.166 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Z:\Dreambox HD\Haus über Kopf (HD).ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=255, fps=25.000
A_AC3, "Z:\Dreambox HD\Haus über Kopf (HD).ts", track=259, lang=deu, timeshift=-654ms
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:08:44.833;00:17:29.666;00:26:14.500;00:34:59.333;00:43:44.166;00:52:29.000;01:01:13.833;01:09:58.666;01:18:43.500;01:27:28.333;01:36:13.166 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "Z:\Dreambox HD\Haus über Kopf (HD).ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=255, fps=25.000
A_AC3, "Z:\Dreambox HD\Haus über Kopf (HD).ts", track=259, lang=deu, timeshift=-654ms
===============================================================================
[00:49:58] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00027.m2ts
[00:49:58] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00028.m2ts
[00:49:58] Processing playlist...
[00:49:58] Title #13 added: "Haus über Kopf (HD)"
[00:49:58] Verifying title...
[00:50:02] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

Just for your information...

Until tomorrow,

best regards & good night :)

Puki

deank

28th February 2010, 01:43

deank

28th February 2010, 02:30

So there were these users crying and dying for avisynth (avs) file import support in multiAVCHD for the last year and since I added it few weeks ago I got zero feedback about it.

Saying this I was wondering if it deserves the time to publish (and troubleshoot) something I prepared last summer (as a standalone parser multiEDIT) which allows *full* customization of the authored menu pages. Since multiAVCHD got the "Custom menu templates" it is easier to integrate it than using it as a separate application.

It is an AviSynth script, which a user can load and override multiAVCHD menu scripts.

It supports macro commands/names to let the user access current title thumbnail/video/chapter images and previous 3 and the next 3 menu pages.

It supports loading external avisynth plug-ins, images, videos, anything one may decide.

Macro tags like:

[PRE] (puts next avs script commands before all multiAVCHD generated ones)

[IGNORE] (ignores all multiAVCHD script lines until it reaches EOF or [POST]

[POST] (adds lines after multiAVCHD's lines of code for menu generation)

[$file_name$] - any file residing in the same folder as the script (usually the template_pack folder)

[CTSB] - Current title static background file
[CTMB] - Current title motion background file

[CTM3] - Thumbnail of title#-3
[CTM2] - Thumbnail of title#-2
[CTM1] - Thumbnail of title#-1

[CTST] - Current title static title thumbnail file
[CTMT] - Current title motion title thumbnail file

[CTP1] - Thumbnail of title#+1
[CTP2] - Thumbnail of title#+2
[CTP3] - Thumbnail of title#+3

[TI-T001-C00] - [TI-T252-C96] - Chapter or title thumbnail image from any title 1-252 and chapter 1-96. (C00 = title thumbnail image) - direct selection

[TI-TPM3-C00] - Chapter or title thumbnail image from relative title (-3) and chapter 1-96.
[TI-TPM2-C00] - Chapter or title thumbnail image from relative title (-2) and chapter 1-96.
[TI-TPM1-C00] - Chapter or title thumbnail image from relative title (-1) and chapter 1-96.

[TI-T000-C00] - [TI-T000-C96] - Chapter or title thumbnail image from current title and chapter 1-96. (C00 = title thumbnail image)

[TI-TPP1-C00] - Chapter or title thumbnail image from relative title (+1) and chapter 1-96.
[TI-TPP2-C00] - Chapter or title thumbnail image from relative title (+2) and chapter 1-96.
[TI-TPP3-C00] - Chapter or title thumbnail image from relative title (+3) and chapter 1-96.

[CTN] - Current title
[LTN] - Last title

[CTC] - Current title chapter thumbnail count

(which means that you can use [$[CTMB]$] in your avisynth script and use multiAVCHD generated motion background for the current title or [$my_video.m2ts$] to use your own....)

There are a lot of other macro tags for title names, duration or any other property of a title, too.

Such 'menu programming' allows full customization. I have no idea how many users may find it useful, but I'll put it on hold before I get feedback.

Using this feature (added as a tab in the [more] -> custom menu templates box as User AviSynth script) allows creation of any number of different menu styles/visions (based on XMB/Slide) - (I have 4 menus in store, being not really creative design-wise).

Dean

Puki

28th February 2010, 11:01

Well there is:

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
PROCESSING ERROR: No data received from tsMuxeR!
Trying again...

and multiAVCHD tries with another tsMuxeR version. Also, make sure to rename the 'ü' (from über) in your path/file name. multiAVCHD and tsMuxeR sometime fail with non-ANSI characters in the path/file names.

Dean

Thanks very mauch Dean, I will rename!

Another issue:

this night I have the second time that my compilation doesn't finish. It "holds" at

[...]

[02:33:47] *** Extracting 12 chapter thumbnails...
[02:34:00] Using 12 thumbnail/chapter links for title #24...
[02:34:00] *** Extracting 12 chapter thumbnails...
[02:34:12] Using 12 thumbnail/chapter links for title #25...
[02:34:12] *** Extracting 12 chapter thumbnails...
[02:34:25] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[02:34:25] Preparing menu pages...

[02:34:25] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/25] [Motion title thumbnail].

Statusbars are Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/25]. and Preparing XMB menu. Please wait... (4%).

Of course this is my last night's compilation of 35 DVB-HD-videos, and 10 of them are not handled by tsMuxeR ("Important files missing...").

I attach the whole log (because of approval here I post it at multiAVCHD-forum, too / please let me know if this is ok for you:confused:).

Regards

Puki

Edit: I just found out that task manager has tsmuxer199.exe at 50%. After killing this task multiAVCHD went on with this error in the log:

[...]
[02:34:00] *** Extracting 12 chapter thumbnails...
[02:34:12] Using 12 thumbnail/chapter links for title #25...
[02:34:12] *** Extracting 12 chapter thumbnails...
[02:34:25] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[02:34:25] Preparing menu pages...

[02:34:25] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/25] [Motion title thumbnail].
[11:06:18] Cannot detect file size: (F:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100227\AT00000.m2ts)
[11:06:18] Video must be at least 60 seconds long to use motion thumbnail!

AT00000.m2ts has 0kB...

Edit#2:: ... and again:

[02:34:25] Preparing menu pages...

[02:34:25] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/25] [Motion title thumbnail].
[11:06:18] Cannot detect file size: (F:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100227\AT00000.m2ts)
[11:06:18] Video must be at least 60 seconds long to use motion thumbnail!
[11:08:28] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/25]: Chapter page [1/1].
[11:08:35] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/25]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).

[11:08:41] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/25] [Motion title thumbnail].
[11:11:16] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/25]: Chapter page [1/1].
[11:11:28] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/25]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).

[11:11:36] Encoding motion XMB menu page [3/25] [Motion title thumbnail].
[11:14:17] Encoding motion XMB menu page [3/25]: Chapter page [1/1].
[11:14:28] Encoding motion XMB menu page [3/25]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).

[11:14:35] Encoding motion XMB menu page [4/25] [Motion title thumbnail].

-> here I killed tsmuxer199.exe

[11:26:20] Cannot detect file size: (F:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100227\AT00007.m2ts)
[11:26:20] Video must be at least 60 seconds long to use motion thumbnail!

maldino800

28th February 2010, 14:00

Hi dean
can you try to test this IDX subtitle,,I allway getting this error.I have last java verson.
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/1269/37438048.png

http://www.zshare.net/download/73132018690666af/

deank

28th February 2010, 14:22

Few new things:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_ex1.jpg

X- X+ Y- and Y+ buttons to change button positions easily for all the four buttons.

[switch] - switch XMB and SLIDE button default positions

Avisynth tab for custom menu scripts (not active yet):
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_ex2.jpg

drelin

28th February 2010, 20:09

Hello,

I'm interrested to view and test your MultiEdit.

If I understand well, it provide more easy possibilities for Custom menu creation (like a previous our discusion about Menu Editor ?) :)

deank

28th February 2010, 20:11

Yes, it allows you to completely override multiAVCHD's menu page and replace it with your own, using the available resources as title names, thumbnails, chapters, duration, audio and subtitle information, etc.

multiEDIT will not be published anyway, but the tab AviSynth in Menu tab or in the template window will be used.

I'll publish the full set of macro commands available plus example scripts soon.

Puki

1st March 2010, 00:05

Hi Dean,

after having finished my DVB-HD-compilation there was a last surprise:

all motion backgrounds and motion thumbs have a DivX Video-logo in the right lower corner...

I wonder why? Do you have any idea?

If you have any suggestions (options / what to install and what not etc.), then I promise to build a new VM-Ware XP pro from scratch only for multiAVCHD :)

BTW: the titles, where tsmuxer199.exe failed / hung (?) there were non-motion thumbs on a motion background.

Best regards

Puki

rendez2k

1st March 2010, 08:57

gordan

1st March 2010, 11:54

Hi, Dean,

Thanks again for this great tool! Here's a few usability issues I have with v4. Can you please look at them?

there's one thing I miss with introducion of v4: in pre v4, I was typically using the simplest menu (as it was produced in shortest time). In v4, if I deselect "Create top menu" I get a new (still simple) grid menu but with characters far too small to see. Can you please reintroduce the simple menu from v3 and increase character size of the grid menu?

Also, the items in the new pop-up menu are indicated using thin red underline that is not very easy too see. Can you just make it a bit thicker?

I also have a feature request: it would be great to have quick access to information about movies, episodes from IMDB and the like. I'm referring to what is available in XBMC or what is provided in the "Movie Info plugin" for PS3MediaServer (http://ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2126).

Thanks, G

deank

1st March 2010, 16:11

Here is what I can do... There is (will be) this additional option to create a hybrid title list menu (sort of a combination between what previously was CLASSIC (list) and THUMBNAIL menu styles in version 3.0):

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_classic_TLM.jpg

It is almost ready and probably later today I'll publish the updated build.

AJ500

1st March 2010, 18:30

Does anyone have a recommended workflow from Adobe Premiere to multiAVCHD?

I'm editing Sony camcorder AVCHD files in Premiere CS4 and using its Media Encoder to create H.264 mp4 files that I import into multiAVCHD to create Blu-ray file structures. This process works well except that I have to manually create the chapter points in multiAVCHD--the chapter markers in Premiere don't carry across. I tried tsdemux, but apparently the chapter markers are not included in the mp4 file. I haven't found a way to export just the chapter markers from Premiere in an XML file yet.

deank

2nd March 2010, 12:55

Reading the FAQ (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/PremierePro/4.0/WSB90E08AC-8994-4070-A1A1-BA560E5EDA4A.html)shows that the only way you may get a XML is if you export to Adobe Flash. I have no idea what the XML format would be. Otherwise there is no other way to export chapters from Premiere.

deank

2nd March 2010, 16:00

Few new things (along with the classic title-list menu):

* multiAVCHD will try to use non-black thumbnails for the TITLE-LIST menu tile-background

* Option to [x] Prompt to import pictures for slide-show... I find it annoying to answer each time with [no] :)

* Three options for x264 custom parameters for 1-pass profiles (One pass) and for 2-pass profiles (Pass One and Pass Two).

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_settings_2.jpg

Should you set your custom parameters, they'll be added at the end of the command line and will override multiAVCHD's settings. You'll see a note in the log:
[16:53:36] *** Initiating video encoding:
[16:53:36] *** Original : 720x480
[16:53:36] *** Crop : 0
[16:53:36] *** Resize : 720x480 (No change)
[16:53:36] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[16:53:36] *** Sharpen : 0
[16:53:36] *** Bitrate : 6477 kbps
[16:53:36] *** Level : 3
[16:53:36] *** Quality : One pass (insane)
[16:53:36] *** SAR : 40:33
[16:53:36] *** DAR : 853x480
[16:53:36] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[16:53:36] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:01:00]
[16:53:36] *** Encoding : Custom x264 parameters: [--bitrate 1234]
[16:54:29] *** Speed : 27.17 fps (elapsed: 00:00:52 - Realtime x 1.13)

[16:54:29] *** Transcoding successful!

I remember that a lot of people asked for it.

If you use custom encoding settings and the output doesn't work, don't report it here (or anywhere) as a bug.

Beatnut

2nd March 2010, 17:54

Hi Dean,

When i make a compilation with multiavhd, and burn it to a BD-r with imgburn using the option in multiavchd, does this work for all AVCHD or ANY Blu ray player?

Greetz, Beatnut

deank

2nd March 2010, 17:58

It depends on the output mode you select when you click "START". It should work in most players... For some reason v4 doesn't really work in samsung players... although there is only one or two reports and I'm not sure.

Beatnut

2nd March 2010, 18:01

Yes, thats what i meant, so to make things short,

it works on players that have and dont have AVCHD, but there are some minor issues with samsung players, but these issues arent really verified,

well thnx for letting me know, keep up the good work.

deank

2nd March 2010, 18:03

Yes... that is for version 4. Version 3 works in all players.

deank

2nd March 2010, 18:50

drelin

2nd March 2010, 19:08

There was a bug with 'audio' selection in the SETUP menu, because of the background audio. It is removed (no bg audio when SETUP menu shows) and audio-change is applied properly now.

You have to manually update with multiUPDATE.exe.

Dean

Just a idea for this bug.
IF you duplicate BG audio (create 2 audio track), I think that audio selection works correctly.
It's use more data space but it's a easy way.

If the bug is linked to that the subtitles selection may have the same bug ?

deank

3rd March 2010, 09:44

No, subtitles don't have this problem. And yes I don't want to do it because it takes a lot of space. The problem is that each page (main/setup/chapters) must have the exact number of audio and subtitle tracks as the main movie. It makes static pages occupy 3-6 MBs and that's a lot. I'll think about it again.

edit: ok, i restored the sound in all menus and audio selection works fine... make sure your .exe has a timestamp of :11 mins

***

A quick fix... When using only title-list menu all thumbnails were black... It is okay now. Thanks to Dolsen for the report.

***

Also the GUI should fit in 1280x768 or 1280x720 laptop displays:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD.jpg

Program window is 1206x694.

deank

3rd March 2010, 12:35

One important addition: [Alter detected properties] button in "Title properties" is now available. It allows you to change some of the clip properties and override multiAVCHD detected ones.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_alter.jpg

multiAVCHD should now properly detect Bottom-field first (BFF) interlaced sources. Should it fail, user can manually set "Interlaced BFF" setting.

Now TomsMoComp deinterlace filter is used for BFF interlaced sources. I gave it a try and it seems to work pretty good.

Dean

deank

3rd March 2010, 13:29

Two requests fulfilled:

@drelin:
For compilations with one title only (One-title menu):
* Vertical menu (XMB): UP and DOWN are no longer reserved. UP will go to CHAPTERS, DOWN will go to SETUP
* Horizontal menu (Slide/Carousel): LEFT will go to CHAPTERS, RIGHT will go to SETUP

and @Sydon777

In "Classic/list" title-list menu: LEFT and RIGHT will show PREVIOUS/NEXT title-list page.

Dean

jefrey

3rd March 2010, 14:05

Hell yeah! i wait for this two options :)
thx again & i will give em a try those days:devil:

AJ500

3rd March 2010, 17:06

There's something I'm just not understanding about creating chapter thumbnails. Here's what I want to do. Manually create chapter points at points along the time line. However I want to choose a thumbnail from different frame on the timeline to use in the chapter menu. I thought I should be able to select a chapter point from the Chapters list; move the current time marker on the timeline to view the frame I want to use as the thumbnail; and then link the chapter thumbnail to that frame.

How is it done?

deank

3rd March 2010, 17:14

Chapter marks define the thumbnails used in the menu. They are linked, not fully independent.

drelin

3rd March 2010, 18:37

flaviometal

3rd March 2010, 18:39

Hi Dean! Thanks for the updates

Question: It's possible to make the option "Subtitles OFF" don't disappear when I chose full transparency for Setup Menu? I'm using some of Drelin's custom menu templates and want to make Setup menu with full transparency, but when I turn the transparency to 100%, the option "Subtitles OFF" disappears...

The movie has 2 audio tracks and just 1 sub.

Thanks!

deank

3rd March 2010, 18:43

It disappears, because the LABEL is deleted.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sft.jpg

raymondtrudeau

3rd March 2010, 20:47

i just converted 12 files from my sony hd cam corder the they were in avchd format and i want to play them on my toshiba hd a2 player so i loaded the files and saved as hd-dvd....i now have a folder that says hd dvd,,,but how do i burn them to dvd? thanks

deank

3rd March 2010, 21:20

flaviometal

3rd March 2010, 21:46

It disappears, because the LABEL is deleted.

Hum... so that's the reason!

I'll fill the words in label to some empty spaces and try to trick the software...

Thanks!

deank

3rd March 2010, 22:42

raymondtrudeau

3rd March 2010, 22:52

Read the log carefully!

You need to burn these folders:

ADV_OBJ
HDDVD_TS
VIDEO_TS

You'll find them under your AVCHD_something\[HD-DVD]\movie_name\.

You can have ONE video per disc. You can't have 12 in one compilation.

DeanOk sorry but do I use imageburn and if so how do I use it?thanks

what I have is one folder with 12 2 minute clips
it is a waste of a DVD to have 2 min on it..

flaviometal

4th March 2010, 00:27

I don't see what is to be tricked here...

You have an option in MENU/Buttons... to change each LABEL like "Subtitles OFF". This is when you import a new file for a new compilation.

If you import an older compilation then all pages have all set (like with templates) and then you go to TITLE PROPERTIES and click the [MORE] button to change the template -> again "Buttons.." sub-tab.

The program does what user sets.

Dean

It doesn't work for me! I've tried all possible combinations, and even with all labels and words in "Menu buttons" guide, the result is the same: when in full setup transparency, the labels insist in disappearing. Where I'm going wrong? I made some images to ilustrate my doubt:

This is what happen when I leave Setup menu with some transparency:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/327/01withouttransparency.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/01withouttransparency.jpg/)

And this is what happens in Setup menu with full transparency:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9974/02withfulltransparency.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/02withfulltransparency.jpg/)

I wanna know if it's possible:
- Leave full transparency (without grey square)
- None text (blank) in "Setup Header"
- Audio tracks, Subs tracks, and "Subtitle OFF" label appearing in Setup menu.

Sorry for the inconvenience! I know that must be hard and a "pain in the ass" to respond every single post in here. This is not a big problem to me, and I can live with it ;)

EDIT: Found it! For some reason, the labels in "Custom Menu page" (properties) was with some conflict with labels in "Default menu page". I just config the Setup Menu Page in custom AND default with 100% transparency and voilá! And to make the Setup header "Audio and subtitle setup" disappear, I changed the words for and empty space (just in "Custom Menu page").

EDIT2: Dean has updated multiAVCHD. Thanks, Dean!

Rudy A-Traxx

4th March 2010, 00:45

You can do it in title PROPERTIES, Chapters, [auto] button.
multiAVCHD will generate as many chapter marks as you set. Since 732+ auto[12] is disabled, so you should get what you want.

Is it possible for you to offer the possibility to add a preference in the "Setting" tab that let us choose the number of chapters we'd like by default.

Because, in the Properties, we are compelled to apply the auto button for each track one by one (my compilation have up to 50 tracks sometimes).
The properties Auto button fonction should remain because it's very useful when we want to apply to a track a different number of chapters... (hope what I wrote was comprehensible)

Thanks

deank

4th March 2010, 19:17

It doesn't work for me!

EDIT: Found it! For some reason...

It is fixed now. Update manually with multiUPDATE if not prompted.

roblonuk

4th March 2010, 20:22

Hi there,

Since upgrading to the latest version I am getting the following error message when trying to burn strict AVCHD discs for a Panasonic player.

DEBUG[mplayer] play:
'Z:\TempStore\multiTEMP-20100304\20100304-123456-MM001.avs'
[report the error to the author]

entry in log file is:

Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1] [static title thumbnail]
Cannot detect file size: (Z:\TempStore\multiTEMP-20100304\20100304-123456-MM001.avs)
Error encoding main menu page #1!

The list of files in the folder is:

20100304-122803-1588
20100304-123546-CM001-01.avs
20100304-123546-CM001-01.avs.264
ch001-1.jpg
ch001-2.jpg
ch001-3.jpg
ch001-4.jpg
ch001-5.jpg
ch001-6.jpg
ch001-7.jpg
ch001-8.jpg
ch001-9.jpg
ch001-10.jpg
ch001-11.jpg
ch001-12.jpg
t001.jpg
XMCP.001

Not sure what setting has been introduced that I now need to turn off.

Please can you help.

Thanks :)

deank

4th March 2010, 20:29

You simply need to play the .avs script with mplayer or MPC and report the error message (before clicking [YES] at the prompt).

roblonuk

4th March 2010, 20:34

Thanks Dean.

So is it normal I should be getting this with the latest build? I have not had it before.

deank

4th March 2010, 20:36

deank

4th March 2010, 22:56

Thinking about something... Going after the volume split and the playlist merge I encountered a case when I needed a playitem/title to be split to multiple titles at each chapter point.

Basically it would allow users to go back from camcoder joined scenes to having each scene in a separate title or (another example) - to load a concert video with 20 songs, with chapter marks at each song start, getting each song as a separate title/playlist. It would allow rearranging or any other manipulation PER CHAPTER (since a chapter segment would become a TITLE).

Since M2TS/MPEG join function does the merge, I think that a chapter-split option would be useful to do the opposite (either for joined m2ts/mpeg or for single files).

:)

And I added [Title List menu] button in the preview section of MENU tab. I guess the preview will be available soon.

And some important changes to re-author mode (speed improvement).

And a fix when using hidden titles (AGAIN!)

And an option to use [merge playlists] button with Blu-ray discs' playlists (or re-authored discs imported in normal author mode) - that is when playlists are not from regular AVCHD structures and may contain menu playitems or pop-up menus.

Dean

peppies

5th March 2010, 04:00

No, it is not normal and I never got this error (even I am the one to write the program). Basically it means that your PC can't encode the menu with your current codec configuration.

Once you play the AviSynth script you'll know why is this happening.

Hi Dean, there are more people getting this very same error including myself as I reported in my last post. Can you be more specific on "play the AviSynth script" thing? My problem still persists unless I turn the media split OFF. Thank you.

roblonuk

5th March 2010, 06:58

Sorry Dean,

I mistyped the previous error, it should have read:

Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1] [static title thumbnail]
Cannot detect file size: (Z:\TempStore\multiTEMP-20100304\20100304-123456-MM001.264)
Error encoding main menu page #1!

When I check that file in the temp folder it is 0 bytes.

However, the .264 file located in the same location as the original .mkv file has the expected size set by the transcode options for the media.

setarip_old

5th March 2010, 10:17

@deak

Have things gotten so rough that you've "lost your shirt"?

deank

5th March 2010, 11:28

Hi Dean, there are more people getting this very same error including myself as I reported in my last post. Can you be more specific on "play the AviSynth script" thing? My problem still persists unless I turn the media split OFF. Thank you.

I don't know how more specific I have to be. The error box shows a file name (the avisynth script required to encode the menu page). You go to this file folder and play the file with MPC (Media Player Classic) or MPC-HT. When you play it the player will play a video with the actual error (probably).

Sorry Dean,

I mistyped the previous error, it should have read:

Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1] [static title thumbnail]
Cannot detect file size: (Z:\TempStore\multiTEMP-20100304\20100304-123456-MM001.264)
Error encoding main menu page #1!

When I check that file in the temp folder it is 0 bytes.

However, the .264 file located in the same location as the original .mkv file has the expected size set by the transcode options for the media.

That's why the error is printed - because this .264 file is the encoded menu page and it is ZERO bytes because for some reason it was NOT encoded at all.

@deak

Have things gotten so rough that you've "lost your shirt"?

:p Btw I added this option to [alter detected properties] if a video. There is a checkbox to force a file as [HD-DVD compliant] if for some reason multiAVCHD can't detect it as such.

It is a good way to import non-x264 encoded files (which are compliant) and use this option to avoid reencoding.

Can you check if it works for you?

Dean

deank

5th March 2010, 13:30

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_x264nal.jpg

It is now possible to use newer x264 builds and 64bit version of the encoder.

Newer builds require different nal-hrd parameter --nal-hrd vbr or --nal-hrd cbr, so make sure to set it properly.

Usage of 64bit x264 requires that you name your 64bit version of the exe as x264_64.exe and to have avs4x264.exe (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/avs4x264.exe) in your tools folder.

Dean

laserfan

5th March 2010, 14:16

Newer builds require different nal-hrd parameter --nal-hrd vbr or --nal-hrd cbrHas this been released yet? Included in mAVCHD update?

deank

5th March 2010, 14:35

The latest 734+ exe has the options... Full-download has the avs4x264.exe (or you can download it from the link above). The full-download does not include 64bit versions of x264 and includes one of the old 32bit builds as it always did. :)

cwh060

5th March 2010, 15:18

Thanks, did a small compilation using x264_64.exe and avs4x264.exe , worked perfectly.

cwh

rendez2k

5th March 2010, 19:36

Thanks, did a small compilation using x264_64.exe and avs4x264.exe , worked perfectly.

cwh

Any speed/quality increase?

cwh060

5th March 2010, 20:48

On an 8min compilation (which I use for testing) it was 3.8sec faster. No noticeable difference in quality.

cwh

deank

5th March 2010, 21:39

I never understood users' desire for 64bit versions... I'm fed up with requests so I added it... Multiple tests show that encoding of 2 hour video gets about 30 seconds to 2 minutes less time to complete with the 64bit version... Does it really matter when you spend 2-3-5 hours in encoding? :)

Dean

cwh060

6th March 2010, 01:22

I agree, 64b is insignificant. Get a bigger processor if you really want programs to fly!

cwh

setarip_old

6th March 2010, 05:38

@deank
Btw I added this option to [alter detected properties] if a video. There is a checkbox to force a file as [HD-DVD compliant] if for some reason multiAVCHD can't detect it as such.What version of multiAVCHD shall I download that includes this option?

deank

6th March 2010, 06:41

Current... build 734.

roblonuk

6th March 2010, 06:48

"Newer builds require different nal-hrd parameter --nal-hrd vbr or --nal-hrd cbr, so make sure to set it properly."

Please can you explain further.

Can I assume that the default option works with the version of x264 that is installed as part of the current build?

deank

6th March 2010, 07:48

Correct.

If you decide to replace the version I included then you may have to change the NAL setting.

pio011

6th March 2010, 09:13

Hi Deank,

thanks again for this great program. I refer to the post above. I use Windows 7 (64bit) and receive the following two errors:

[09:03:05] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1] [Static title thumbnail].
[09:03:07] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100306\20100306-090248-MM001.264)
[09:03:07] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[09:05:43] Final output may be corrupted!
[09:05:43] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...

As you have mentioned above, I should look for the avs file and play it. It worked fine, no errors, Zoomplayer showed me a very short clip of the main menu (one or two seconds). The final output also seem to play well on my ps3. So, how do I correct this error? Why is it happening?

My 2nd Problem: If I have a mkv title and want to add srt subtiltes, I get this error msg:

[20:10:13] !!! Error converting subtitles! (java?)

Why? Of course, I have only used simple .srt subtitles. And the funny thing is, that the output plays fine on my ps3 with the correct subtitles. Again, why this error?

Thank you!!

deank

6th March 2010, 09:15

Update your multiAVCHD with multiUPDATE.exe and try to change the value in your ini file at line 58. It is probably 7 - set it to 14 for example.

The error about subtitles is because multiAVCHD tries to create advanced/better looking subtitles... If it fails it defaults to the standard processing and tsMuxeR creates the subtitles. That's why it works in your PS3. If you install latest JAVA probably the error will go away.

Dean

deank

6th March 2010, 10:38

A quick note about something I added for people with low-resolution displays:

There is a small <> button at the top which allows you to switch the positions of the progress bars and the start button group so you can see them...

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_switchB.jpg

Also in title properties / playlist you'll see which m2ts files belong to the current title / playlist, their size and duration.

For [r] [s] [m] and [p] titles you'll also see the playlist name in the Compilation box.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_tp_pl.jpg

***

There is a new option in MENU/Extended tab:

[x] Create Single-title menu pages

When using multiple titles it will make multiAVCHD to show only the current title in the menu page. For example: in a compilation with 7 titles you will always see ONLY the current title in the menu. Scrolling UP/DOWN or LEFT/RIGHT will show the other menu pages. This is useful when users use [x] Never reencode unchanged menu pages option and frequently add new titles to big compilations.

Here is the difference in a compilation with 11 titles:

option OFF:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_ST_OFF.jpg

option ON:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_ST_ON.jpg

***

It is worth to menion that using this option speeds up menu generation 2-3 times.

There were few minor changes which caused some speed improvement with all menu pages generation and preview + a workaround for the cases when x264 locks in the background without fully processing the parsed avisynth script.

Dean

blubberbirne

6th March 2010, 14:17

What are the settings to get the classic title list menu working? Or is it not working yet?

flaviometal

6th March 2010, 14:32

Deank, is it possible to change the default template folder to another directory in ini file or something? I wanna know because I like to organize all project files in another HD partition ( D:/).

This is not a request (neither so important), it's just a question... ;)

deank

6th March 2010, 14:41

What are the settings to get the classic title list menu working? Or is it not working yet?

By selecting [x] Add classic title-list

Deank, is it possible to change the default template folder to another directory in ini file or something? I wanna know because I like to organize all project files in another HD partition ( D:/).

This is not a request (neither so important), it's just a question... ;)

No, sorry :) I wish to keep everything under multiAVCHD's folder.

laserfan

6th March 2010, 16:38

By selecting [x] Add classic title-list
deank I'm not at mAVCHD computer atm but it seems to me if you check "classic list" and uncheck the general menu (for xmb etc) then there's no way to Preview the simple title list, am I right?

deank

6th March 2010, 16:39

There is no way to preview Title list menu at all. It is not implemented yet. :)

laserfan

6th March 2010, 17:30

There is no way to preview Title list menu at all. It is not implemented yet. :)Thanks for confirming--I thought I might have missed something! :o

Capsbackup

6th March 2010, 18:10

deank, I am noticing that when I use the set poster frame for a given title from the preview window, it inserts the appropriate time for that still image in the poster frame box. But if I select ok, and go back to that title, the poster frame #/seconds is correct, but the picture displayed is not the poster frame I selected. Should the poster frame I selected be the one displayed in the preview window when I select the title properties from the media select window? :confused:
EDIT:
Also, if I check the menu to view my selections, should the poster frames of the working titles be displayed or just your logo?

deank

6th March 2010, 18:20

Entering title-properties defaults to the middle of the video.
Menu preview doesn't show user-defined frame. It does for external poster .jpg files or for imported structures with HDAVCTN folder.

Don't worry - it will be okay in the final compilation.

Capsbackup

6th March 2010, 19:28

:( I'm not sure what happened, but the project did not work.
Recieved this error message during the process:

[09:38:14] Preparing authoring information...
[09:38:14] Creating NTSC top menu.
[09:38:15] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[09:38:15] Creating title thumbnails for 9 titles (XMB)...
[09:38:16] Using user defined title image at 108.851 sec (00:01:48.850) for title #1!
[09:38:24] Using user defined title image at 95.571 sec (00:01:35.570) for title #2!
[09:38:29] Using user defined title image at 100.166 sec (00:01:40.165) for title #3!
[09:38:34] Using user defined title image at 108.94 sec (00:01:48.939) for title #4!
[09:38:40] Using user defined title image at 85.951 sec (00:01:25.950) for title #5!
[09:38:45] Using user defined title image at 75.805 sec (00:01:15.805) for title #6!
[09:38:48] Using user defined title image at 86.134 sec (00:01:26.134) for title #7!
[09:38:53] Using user defined title image at 135.834 sec (00:02:15.834) for title #8!
[09:38:58] Using user defined title image at 97.951 sec (00:01:37.950) for title #9!
[09:39:03] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[09:39:03] Preparing menu pages...

[09:39:03] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/9] [Static title thumbnail].
[09:39:06] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multiTEMP-20100306\20100306-093815-MM001.264)
[09:39:06] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[09:39:21] Final output may be corrupted!
[09:39:21] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...

[09:39:21] Encoding static XMB menu page [2/9] [Static title thumbnail].
[09:39:24] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multiTEMP-20100306\20100306-093815-MM002.264)
[09:39:24] Error encoding main menu page #2!

[09:39:33] Encoding static XMB menu page [3/9] [Static title thumbnail].
[09:39:36] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD_TMP\multiTEMP-20100306\20100306-093815-MM003.264)
[09:39:36] Error encoding main menu page #3!
...
Will not play with TMT3, it crashes, and the created image will not play the menu with PowerDVD 7.3, but just starts playing the first of 9 titles, and no counter timer is displayed.

deank

6th March 2010, 19:38

It won't play with so many errors...

If you have the latest build, edit your .ini - line 58 and change it to 14.

You can always use "MENU PREVIEW" before starting, to be sure it will work.

Capsbackup

6th March 2010, 19:46

I am trying it again with this change. I am using the latest build for v4.0, at least I have run Multiupdate, and also when your program starts, it appears to have the latest build ( 734+).
Should know in about 22 min.:cool:

Capsbackup

6th March 2010, 20:18

Worked this time! :)
Why was this change to the .ini necessary? Have I missed something?
I do have the latest build, so how would one know to change such an item, or when is it even necessary? :confused:
This project had 9 .TS files that are reported as 1080P, 29.97fps, recorded from my DVR. I did reencoded them to reduce the file size some to fit on one BD-R. Just trying to test your program again, but if it wasn't for your quick reply, I would have been stumped! :p

deank

6th March 2010, 20:35

This problem is since the first build that introduced a menu in multiAVCHD. There was this option in ver 3.0 "Frames to encode: [---slider---] 2/30"... It defined how many frames avisynth should generate for a SINGLE FRAME H.264 stream that would be accepted by x264 for encoding to .264 file.

I never had problems with setting the value to 2 frames.

Few weeks ago another user had the same problem and he said that it works for him ONLY with values >6 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1373544&highlight=frames+encode#post1373544)... Today another user did some tests and said it works only with values >10. I have no idea what is it and why is it happening.

A value of 14 avisynth served frames seems to work for everyone. It however affects the speed of static menu pages generation.

You can imagine that with 2 frames it takes 7 times less time to encode a menu page (~2-3 seconds, instead of waiting for 20-30 seconds).

Here is the post about it from February last year. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247122#post1247122)

Dean

Capsbackup

6th March 2010, 21:06

Well I guess it is better to take a little longer and work than be quicker and fail! :p
Will this change in the .ini change with updates to MultiAVCHD?
Will the new value be a standard for this and each update?
Since I am a very infrequent user, it will be hard to remember this in the future. For me, I am most likely to use your program with many .TS files, as my previous example. So, depending on your answer, I guess it would be a concern on a fresh install if I forget to change this line 58!

deank

6th March 2010, 21:08

A fresh install sets it to 14. And won't let even manual ini edit to set it to a value lower than 7, so don't worry. I guess I'll have to re-enable the slider (it is hidden at the moment, because there was no proper free space for it in the GUI).

(if you delete the .ini you'll see it set to 14)

blubberbirne

6th March 2010, 22:48

There is no way to preview Title list menu at all. It is not implemented yet. :)

thats the info i need :thanks:

Capsbackup

6th March 2010, 23:49

deank;
Works great!! :)
Burned to BD-RE for playback on my Sony S360 and I am very pleased with the outcome.
Just curious, when I play the disc, all is well. When I select stop, I notice that the on-screen display from my Sony displays: BDMV - "MultiAVCHD - Planet Earth"
Is there an option to keep or eliminate this info?
I do set a volume label when I create the image with IMGBurn, yet this additional "MultiAVCHD" data is visible on screen as well.

drelin

7th March 2010, 02:51

@ Deank

I've just made authoring test with new options "navigation" Horizontal (slide) and vertical (xmb) for the main menu.
I report that the navigation not works properly :

On Vertical navigation with xmb option
The "Up to down" navigation works fine (play->setup->chapter->play) but the "down to up" navigation is broken at setup button (chapter<-playXsetup<-chapter)
Can you correct it and just activate "up to down" - "down to up" sens and desactivate the "right to left"- "left to right" sens for the xbm style ?

On Horizontal navigation with slide option
The "left to right" navigation is broken at setup button (play->setupXchapter->play)
The "Right to left" navigation is broken at setup button (chapter<-playXsetup<-chapter)
Can you correct it and just activate "left to right" - "right to left" sens and desactivate the "up to down"- "down to up" sens for the slide style ?

The broken link for navigation is allways on the setup button

Thank :)

VincAlastor

7th March 2010, 08:31

thank you for custom command line and custom x264.exe !!!

is there time to break the "32-sec-menu-bg-limit" now?

deank

7th March 2010, 09:56

When I select stop, I notice that the on-screen display from my Sony displays: BDMV - "MultiAVCHD - Planet Earth"
Is there an option to keep or eliminate this info?

The only place I can see it is in a line parsed to imgburn:

Identifier_Publisher=multiAVCHD

May be once you start ImgBurn you will see it somewhere. Have you seen such info when using other authoring tools or with re-authored discs from BD-RB?

@ Deank

I report that the navigation not works properly :

On Vertical navigation with xmb option
The "Up to down" navigation works fine (play->setup->chapter->play) but the "down to up" navigation is broken...

The broken link for navigation is allways on the setup button

I test to see what exactly is 'broken'.

is there time to break the "32-sec-menu-bg-limit" now?

:rolleyes: May be there will be. I'm currently programming a very big project for the office, so may be another time.

peppies

7th March 2010, 11:59

I don't know how more specific I have to be. The error box shows a file name (the avisynth script required to encode the menu page). You go to this file folder and play the file with MPC (Media Player Classic) or MPC-HT. When you play it the player will play a video with the actual error (probably).

Ok tried that and it says that MPC "could not render some of the pins in the graph, you may not have the needed codecs or filters intalled on your system". I have no idea what am I missing. If there were codecs missing why is it working when I turn the media split off? Can you advise what you see in the log below please? I have no idea what to look for:

C:\Users\Peter\Desktop\20100307-213152-MM001.avs::Avisynth video #1

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
Video: YV12 1920x1080 25.00fps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12 {32315659-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_VideoInfo {05589F80-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 3110400
cbFormat: 88

VIDEOINFOHEADER:
rcSource: (0,0)-(0,0)
rcTarget: (0,0)-(0,0)
dwBitRate: 0
dwBitErrorRate: 0
AvgTimePerFrame: 400000

BITMAPINFOHEADER:
biSize: 40
biWidth: 1920
biHeight: 1080
biPlanes: 1
biBitCount: 12
biCompression: YV12
biSizeImage: 3110400
biXPelsPerMeter: 0
biYPelsPerMeter: 0
biClrUsed: 0
biClrImportant: 0

pbFormat:
0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 1a 06 00 00 00 00 00 ........€.......
0030: 28 00 00 00 80 07 00 00 38 04 00 00 01 00 0c 00 (...€...8.......
0040: 59 56 31 32 00 76 2f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 YV12.v/.........
0050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Thanks a lot for your help and sorry if this is something obvious but I just can't see it.

Moksu

7th March 2010, 12:46

Hello,

I have been trying to get the latest versio to work and all i get is 200 mb "final size" with some error i got no idea what to do here is the log, what happened to old versio of this program :( did run smoothly

deank

7th March 2010, 13:19

Check the value of MASTER CUT END in AUTHOR tab. Probably you have entered a value different than 0, which causes trimming of your video to just few minutes.

Capsbackup

7th March 2010, 18:20

The only place I can see it is in a line parsed to imgburn:

Identifier_Publisher=multiAVCHD

May be once you start ImgBurn you will see it somewhere. Have you seen such info when using other authoring tools or with re-authored discs from BD-RB?

deank, I have never had this happen with BD-RB, and I always create my own image manually outside of the BD-RB project.
I have noticed that some BluRay backups done with BD-RB will have a different name than the one I provided in the UDF Label section, ex: I provide "STEPFATHER", Sony S360 BluRay player says "STEPFATHER, THE".
So there must be some meta data or something/somewhere!
The only two projects that I have used MultiAVCHD to create a BluRay from captured TV shows both have the same "MultiAVCHD - ...my label".
This is really no big deal! :p I just thought there may have been a simple explanation.

deank

7th March 2010, 19:04

Well, you can take a look at \META\DL\ folder... there are some .xml files.. Open the english one with notepad and check its contents. :)

Capsbackup

7th March 2010, 19:21

deank, I think your on to it! On further checking, my player displayed "multiAVCHD - Ocean Deep".
Here is this file you mentioned:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
- <disclib xmlns="urn:BDA:bdmv;disclib" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="urn:BDA:bdmv;disclib disclib.xsd">
- <di:discinfo xmlns:di="urn:BDA:bdmv;discinfo">
<di:date>2010-03-06</di:date>
<di:creator>multiAVCHD v4.0.734</di:creator>
- <di:title>
<di:name>multiAVCHD - Ocean Deep</di:name>
<di:alternative>multiAVCHD compilation</di:alternative>
<di:numSets>1</di:numSets>
<di:setNumber>1</di:setNumber>
</di:title>
<di:subject>multiAVCHD</di:subject>
<di:format>V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080 29.970</di:format>
- <di:description>
- <di:tableOfContents>
<di:titleName titleNumber="1" titleLink="Title1_ID">Ocean Deep</di:titleName>
<di:titleName titleNumber="2" titleLink="Title2_ID">Deserts</di:titleName>
<di:titleName titleNumber="3" titleLink="Title3_ID">Fresh Water</di:titleName>
<di:titleName titleNumber="4" titleLink="Title4_ID">Great Plains</di:titleName>
<di:titleName titleNumber="5" titleLink="Title5_ID">Ice Worlds</di:titleName>
<di:titleName titleNumber="6" titleLink="Title6_ID">Jungles</di:titleName>
<di:titleName titleNumber="7" titleLink="Title7_ID">Mountains</di:titleName>
<di:titleName titleNumber="8" titleLink="Title8_ID">Pole to Pole</di:titleName>
<di:titleName titleNumber="9" titleLink="Title9_ID">Shallow Seas</di:titleName>
</di:tableOfContents>
<di:thumbnail href="./HDAVCTN_O1.jpg" size="640x360" />
<di:thumbnail href="./HDAVCTN_O2.jpg" size="416x240" />
</di:description>
<di:language>eng</di:language>
</di:discinfo>
</disclib>

So, if one wanted to edit this file, is it safe to do so?

deank

7th March 2010, 19:26

Yes... Edit whatever you want :) You're player will comply. I made multiAVCHD output as many blu-ray compliant files as possible ;)

Edit:

<di:name>multiAVCHD - Ocean Deep</di:name>

To

<di:name>Planet Earth</di:name>

and you're done.

Capsbackup

7th March 2010, 19:33

I just realized that my player says "multiAVCHD - Deep Ocean". This is actually the title name for the first .ts file listed in the media window. I do not see this name in this .xml file.

deank

7th March 2010, 19:44

Probably it does Right-to-Left :) display and it is "Deep Ocean" backwards.

Butterfly666

7th March 2010, 23:24

Hi Dean,

Is it possile to shutdown the background music or replace it?

deank

7th March 2010, 23:51

Yes it is.

Butterfly666

8th March 2010, 00:02

Yes it is.

I have unchecked the option 'use navigation sound' but the background music still plays?

How can I turn this option off or replace it?

deank

8th March 2010, 00:04

Navigation sound = sound when you click < > up/down with your remote to change the selection.

You need to change "Background audio" in MENU/Advanced tab.

Please take a look at the options I gave to you.

Butterfly666

8th March 2010, 00:20

Dean,

You are a genius! Thanks

drelin

8th March 2010, 00:22

About the "horizontal" and "vertical" navigation problems reports, I've made organigrams for more easy understand what I've try to explain and exactly where is the "broken links".

See pictures.

Legend :
In Green, the links work fine
In red, the broken links
In blue the links not needed (for desactivate)

I hope that is more simply for you to that my previous post with my poor english. :)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8854/slidenav.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9575/xbmnav.jpg

deank

8th March 2010, 00:46

drelin

8th March 2010, 10:34

Thanks, drelin. I know how navigation works. I do.

It is that with options NOT to have 'chapters' or 'setup' or 'title list' things are different. The way I implemented it it is working in ALL cases.

When you posted 'broken navigation' I thought that it is not working at all in some situations, but it is not the case. There is a hidden menu in multiAVCHD which I'll enable and it would let you decide what button to be activated in each occasion.

There are UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT neighbor settings for each button. I'll post about it this week.

Dean

Thank for your answer.

If I understand well, the "horizontal" / "vertical" navigation styles are not completely added. It is linked with a special menu (with options for each button navigation) hidden and not embedded yet.
If it's correct, it's great new. We can customize as we want the navigation for main menu.

Thank a lot :)

deank

8th March 2010, 12:12

Yes... I'm trying to add it to the templates, too and will publish it a bit later.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_but_nav.jpg

deank

8th March 2010, 13:58

Time for build number change...

Build 735:

* Options to define UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT navigation for main menu. Same options available for templates in Templates window.

* User defined thumbnail->chapter links should work properly now. For each defined link you'll see a log message.

Example below is for a title with 24 chapters, 21 of the thumbnail links removed and first 3 set to chapters 2, 4 and 8. The final look of the chapter menu is: 3 icons for 3 chapter links.

[14:49:39] Authoring menu (PAL 24p).
[14:49:39] Creating title thumbnails for 1 titles (XMB)...
[14:49:41] Using 3 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[14:49:41] *** Extracting 3 chapter thumbnails...
[14:49:41] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[14:49:41] Preparing menu pages...

[14:49:41] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1] [Static title thumbnail].
[14:49:55] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1]: Chapter page [1/1].
[14:49:59] *** User defined thumblink #1 -> Chapter #2
[14:49:59] *** User defined thumblink #2 -> Chapter #4
[14:49:59] *** User defined thumblink #3 -> Chapter #8
[14:50:00] Encoding static XMB menu page [1/1]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[14:50:03] Menu authoring completed.

Dean

Beatnut

8th March 2010, 14:22

Hi dean, ive got a question,

When iam using a blu ray disk, and use imgburn to burn a compilation, does it have to be 1280x720 or 1920x1080, or can it me e.g. 1920x980? will i produce a big black bar at the bottom when using a disk?

greetz, Beatnut

deank

8th March 2010, 14:25

Compliant resolutions are 720x480, 720x576, 1280x720, 1440x1080 and 1920x1080 - nothing else. Different player do different things. One will show black bar, other will stretch it. You shouldn't use such files.

deank

8th March 2010, 20:31

There was a small bug with x264 parameters when transcoding, so please use multiUPDATE.exe if transcode fails with the included x264 version.

setarip_old

9th March 2010, 01:07

@deank

Hi! I've been otherwise occupied for a bit.Btw I added this option to [alter detected properties] if a video. There is a checkbox to force a file as [HD-DVD compliant] if for some reason multiAVCHD can't detect it as such.

I've downloaded (4.0) Build 735.

Where do I find this checkbox and what is the exact wording?

**NEVER MIND - I LOCATED IT!**

setarip_old

9th March 2010, 01:57

@deank

1) Loaded an HDDVD-compatible .M2TS file into multiAVCHD ("Where the Wild Things Are" - Originally used BD-RB to create HDDVD-compatible compressed BluRay). multiAVCHD acknowledged it as being HDDVD-compliant. Closed multiAVCHD

2) Loaded the same file into tsMuxer and cut off the first second of the .M2TS file and resaved

3) Loaded same (cut) file into multiAVCHD - And it no longer "saw" the file as being HDDVD compatible

4) Entered checkmark next to "Alter detected properties", proceeded through remaining standard steps and then selected "HD-DVD compliant" and pressed "Start"

5) Upon scanning file, log indicated that it was "Already HDDVD compliant" - and completely processed in 17minutes

6) End result was a perfectly playing HDDVD ;>}

If I may ask, what prompted you to add this capability?

AJ500

9th March 2010, 02:52

Hi Dean,

Time for build number change...

Build 735:

...
* User defined thumbnail->chapter links should work properly now. For each defined link you'll see a log message.
...
Dean

This looks like a way to do what I want to accomplish in post #4640 (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1379707&postcount=4640)

That is, I could create a chapter point where I want play to begin; create a chapter point on the timeline at the point that I want to use as a thumbnail for that chapter; link the thumbnail to the chapter beginning and only use thumbnails that are linked. Correct? or am I confused?

insaneoctane

9th March 2010, 06:59

First, and foremost...Dean fantastic job with this program. Great idea, implementation and more than anything, your continued support!

I usually feel bad when I see folks ask you for "can you add this" or "that"...BUT, I'm wondering if other folks have this desire:

Would anyone else value having an "undo" option for use with the "move transitional files" with the "all" sub-option?

I just put over 1TB of AVCHD subdirectories on a drive and I'm going to use multiAVCHD to create a top level menu. I've had lots of errors from encoding motion menus to weird little x264 hangups that can cause things to go wrong- or maybe I just don't like the menu the way I chose and want to try again...

In any case, I'd like to start over again, but I really don't want to have to "copy" all these files again, I'd much rather "move" them again. If the program went into debug mode, then I may very well NOT have a usable AVCHD directory to use...I'd like to get all my M2TS file and PLAYLISTS and other files put back where they were and try again.

Just looking for other folks who might need this?
First,

deank

9th March 2010, 11:46

@deank

4) Entered checkmark next to "Alter detected properties", proceeded through remaining standard steps and then selected "HD-DVD compliant" and pressed "Start"

5) Upon scanning file, log indicated that it was "Already HDDVD compliant" - and completely processed in 17minutes

6) End result was a perfectly playing HDDVD ;>}

If I may ask, what prompted you to add this capability?

I added few things in this menu, which user previously had no control over. I thought that it is good to have the option to CORRECT what multiAVCHD detects, because sometimes it may not be exactly correct. + the detection of HD-DVD AVC videos was done using the meta data from x264. Once the file is remuxed this data is gone and although the file is compliant, multiAVCHD won't accept it as such. :)

Hi Dean,

This looks like a way to do what I want to accomplish in post #4640 (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1379707&postcount=4640)

Correct? or am I confused?

I think you wanted to use specific chapter images for each thumbnail, not related to the jump-point. If it is not the case, then you can use it the way I implemented it.

First, and foremost...Dean fantastic job with this program.

I'm sorry but it is really impossible to do that.

Dean

p.s. Build 736 is just a bug-fix to make people update. One bug related to encoding/transcoding (wrong wpredp parameter) and one bug fixed when loading older projects.

drelin

9th March 2010, 14:09

Just a little report about the new option for navigation for each button :
It's works fine :)

deank

9th March 2010, 16:18

Few small additions and explanations:

Colors in media tab:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_media_colors.jpg

You probably know what they mean and that you can hover with the mouse and read why a title is colored the way it is.

Build 736 adds the LIME color + [menu] prefix in the name of the title. It means that the title has custom menu settings loaded or it is using a menu-template.

* no background color (title 1) - everything is okay, normal processing
* Lime color (+[menu]) - explained above
* Maroon (dark red color) - title is marked for HD-DVD output
* Bright red - title is not compliant (either resolution, ref. frames, etc)
* Dark green - title is marked for transcoding.

Dean

Dolsen

9th March 2010, 18:35

Hi,

With the possibility to have a few chapter thumbnails, but also keep alot of chapter (used during playback) made me think about something:

How about joining/merging several movies into one title, that multiAVCHD would load?

Example: If you have these movies
Die Hard, Die Hard 2, Die Hard 3
The Matrix, Matrix Reloaded, Matrix Revolution
Spiderman, Spiderman 2, Spiderman 3
Shrek, Shrek 2, Shrek 3

That's 12 titles, but if you joined/merged each serie into a title, you would end up with 4 titles (and save 8 title slots in multiAVCHD). Then you make 3 chapter thumbnails, each linked to startpoint of each joined/merged movie inside title.

Is this doable with some tools? I'm worried about issues with subtitles/audio sync...

Any idea how to do it, and what tools recommended? Subtitles can not be text-based, but picture-based (dvd sub/bluray sup)

Thanks, bye
Dolsen

deank

9th March 2010, 18:39

multiAVCHD can do it for you.

1) You need to prepare each movie as a separate compilation (AVCHD or BDMV folder).

2) Load all movies (all three Die Hard for example) in multiAVCHD (they'll show as [m] playlists in media tab).

3) [TRANSCODE] button will change to [merge playlists]

4) (if you want compilations to be MOVED to the joined location make sure to mark [x] Move transitional files [x] all).

5) Click [merge playlists] and select output folder

6) You'll get ONE title, which will contain ALL movies with their chapters, subtitles, thumbnails anything.

If you set [x] all in step 4 you'll get the new joined title in just few seconds.

The process involves no remuxing nor changing the original, but playlist rebuilding. No other tool does that. :) Repeat steps 2 to 6 for The matrix, then for Shrek, etc... At the end you'll have 4 compilations, each with 1 title (with joined 3 movies inside).

Load these 4 and you're done.

At any time you can do the reverse (after you join these movies in one title) - using the VOLUME SPLIT option - something no other tool does, too - get each movie back to a separate AVCHD/BDMV structure/title/compilation.

:) Cool, eh!

Dean

Dolsen

9th March 2010, 18:50

Hi again,

Woah, that sounds great! I have to do some tests.

Your program has alot of hidden gems inside :)

Thanks alot for the list how to do it!

Bye,
Dolsen

deank

9th March 2010, 19:41

Yes :) that's why there is 'multi' in multiAVCHD, although some say it does Blu-ray and other formats, too! :p

The [merge playlsit] option is basically for joining playlists from camcoders (when each playlsit has the same properties as the others), but I just did a test in my Playstation 3, joining 4 titles:

1) 720x480
2) 720x576
3) 1280x720
4) 1920x1080

All show in 1 title, chapters work perfectly and with each joined-title resolution is changed properly. :)

One thing you may notice is that the "SETUP page for each joined title will show the properties of the 1st one (like Die Hard I). It doesn't really matter if all 3 movies have the same resolution or/and audio/subtitle track-count (that is if you're using XMB menu, otherwise it doesn't matter - it is just text in the menu).

Dean

Adub

9th March 2010, 19:57

setarip_old

9th March 2010, 20:00

@deank

You're welcome - even though it had nothing to do with HD-DVD chaptering, timestamps, FF/FR ;>} (Perhaps it's time to set aside the menuing for a bit?)

roblonuk

9th March 2010, 20:28

Hi there,

Regarding the error I posted about earlier:

"Failed to extract title thumbnail for title #1."
"Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100220\20100220-015724-MM001.264)"

I am pretty sure this was because at some update the option under the 'Author' tab to 'Add pop-up menu' was not selected.

I reset all the settings to their default values and changed those that were specific to my setup and everything works as expected.

Just in case this helps someone else.

deank

9th March 2010, 20:33

Thanks, rob... It has nothing to do with the pop-up menu, but probably with some of the updates yesterday and today... And probably an option in the .ini.

I'm glad it worked for you after all!

Dean

laserfan

9th March 2010, 21:12

I'm confused a bit about mAVCHD updates. I see that when I launch it, and it looks for and requests an update from a Mirror, then the update process is very fast, but apparently it only updates the .exe itself.

How do I determine whether what I need instead is a complete full download and reinstall, because perhaps one or more of the \tools has been updated? :confused:

deank

9th March 2010, 21:17

None of the tools were updated since october 2009. Update updates the exe only. I can't handle more that that. The only thing new is avs4x264.exe which I posted about few days ago. If you miss something multiAVCHD will alert you. For example delete avs2bdnxml.exe from tools folder and you'll see what I mean.

[22:20:13] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04000733]

[22:20:13] avs2bdnxml.exe missing, but needed for advanced subtitle processing.
[22:20:13] Download and save it in tools folder (C:\calcit\tools\):
[22:20:13] http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/avs2bdnxml.exe (70KB)

laserfan

9th March 2010, 23:55

None of the tools were updated since october 2009. Update updates the exe only. I can't handle more that that. The only thing new is avs4x264.exe which I posted about few days ago. If you miss something multiAVCHD will alert you. For example delete avs2bdnxml.exe from tools folder and you'll see what I mean.
OK, well the example you gave already breaks the rule then, cuz I am not alerted that it's not in my install. But I do understand it is special for those who want to use 64-bit x264... ;)

If launching latest mAVCHD exe will either warn me that I have a missing or outdated tool, or otherwise tell me when I need to download the whole installation package, that will be wonderful. :)

deank

10th March 2010, 00:01

I'll add tools-check... It just didn't seem so important. Downloading 20-30MBs is not a big deal anyway (it doesn't apply to you, as you said something about your ISP speed).

Dolsen

10th March 2010, 00:10

Hi,

I managed to merge the three Matrix movies into a Matrix collection. But somehow I could not get only 3 chapter thumbnails created, it created thumbnails for all +90 chapters (chapter times imported using ChapterXtractor that extracted times from DVD's) and created 8 chapter pages after I started a new project and added the finished merged collection.

Here is link to project file and log after completed creation of AVCHD structure, download zip file (http://www.sendspace.com/file/soqx6b).

I noticed one error I made, I defined the first line under "menu thumbnails" > Thumbnail #00 to be startpoint of first movie, and I now see that should not be a startpoint, but a title thumbnail. And that "thumbnail #01" should be set as startpoint for first movie and would be first visible chapter thumbnail, right?

How do I setup to get only 3 chapter thumbnails visible, and keep all the other chapters for inplay use?

Is there any way I can get selfmade chapter thumbnails for those three chapter thumbnails?

If I only wanted 3 chapters, will the program automatic extract a thumbnail for each chapter? Like in this example, it extracted +90 thumbnails, and it took 10 minutes.

Is it always needed to demux a M2TS file into seperat parts, and then mux them together again as long I don't do some properties modifications that needs to demux? As you can see in the log above, it took almost 35 minutes. I'm just curious if I could do something ahead that somehow perhaps did avoiding this part in the process.

I understand my computer is not so fast, but any minutes saved, is a minute saved...

Thanks, bye
Dolsen

deank

10th March 2010, 00:19

There is a button [remove] in "Menu thumbnails". You need to remove ALL links/thumbnails that you don't need.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/os-sample.jpg

Splitting to different .m2ts is set by [media split] setting in Author tab. Set it to 26000 for example and title won't be split. Splitting doesn't take more time if you're worried about it, but it is better not to have title split, so you can later un-join them if you want.

You can use your own chapter images if you replace the generated in HDAVCTN folder before you import the joined folder for your next step.

praneeth.gogineni

10th March 2010, 00:36

Hi Deanbg,
i was wondering if you could make this very cool application kind of like MultiAVCHD. It would be just like MultiAVCHD but you can input a cropped mkv and it would uncrop it then make it a AVCHD disk, just like uncropmkv but instead in one easy operation. Also with uncropmkv i noticed you can also add avi, files, and vobs and many different file types, so could you add that in too. So what i want is a multiavchd which will convert your files, uncrop them, and come out with a disk that has menus.
Praneeth Gogineni
if it is possible can you add in the option to chose your resolution and alter it.

Dolsen

10th March 2010, 00:44

Hi,

Hmm, I can not get [not used], when I mark a line and press "remove", the list just refresh and it says [default]. How should I do it?

Edit: I figured it out, the [not used] ended up last in the list, I thought the line that was marked was the line that it should say [not used] when I pressed "Remove".

Would it mean I have to manually go through +90 lines in the list and press "remove" for each line?

Edit: Seems so, but I did a short-cut and loaded project file in a text-editor and replaced all -1 with -2 :)

I need to have splitting, to be able to store on a FAT32 hardrive, since PS3 don't support NTFS. But the titles was already splitted into parts where none was bigger then 4GB, that's why I wondered why it had to do the demux/mux job... I hope you understood what I mean, english is not my best :)

So, the get custom thumbnails I have to first create a AVCHD, then recreate it once more to get custom thumbnails?

This is how I did the work from start to finish:

1. Created an AVCHD folder with txmuxer, with movie,audio and bluray sup (converted dvd sub -> bluray sup with
BDSup2Sub) for each of Matrix movies.

2. Loaded first AVCHD folder into multiAVCHD, fixed language audio/subtitle text tags, added chapters times from DVD. Disabled top menu, chapter list, title list, welcome screen, and created AVCHD structure. Repeated same for other 2 movies.

3. Removed all titles in multiAVCHD, added the three finished AVCHD folders created with multiAVCHD, and merged them into a new AVCHD folder.

4. Removed all titles in multiAVCHD. Added the new merged AVCHD folder. Then I setup the project as in the zip file (http://www.sendspace.com/file/soqx6b) I gave above. And pressed "Start" to get the final AVCHD.

Where in this list would you recommend I would do the adding of my three wanted custom chapter thumbnails, to avoid an extra creation of AVCHD folder?

Thanks, bye
Dolsen

DMagic1

10th March 2010, 08:38

I just noticed that with the new version 4 that it turns the 1st subtitile on by default. The old version didnt do that and it presents and problem if you didnt want subs turns on by default.

Oh btw, I love the new motions menus. Its really nice.

crl2007

10th March 2010, 09:28

Untick "Force display of first subtitle track" from Subtitles and Audio TAB.

Music Fan

10th March 2010, 11:25

deank

10th March 2010, 11:34

deank

10th March 2010, 11:50

Hi Deanbg,
i was wondering if you could make this very cool application kind of like MultiAVCHD.

There is no need for another cool application kind of like multiAVCHD.

1) Load your files in multiAVCHD
2) Click [FIT ALL]
3) Select Destination media: [*HDD* MiB [KEEP SAME BITRATE]]
4) Set what menu you want and click START.

Your files will be uncropped and you'll get a menu.

laserfan

10th March 2010, 15:58

I'll add tools-check... It just didn't seem so important. Downloading 20-30MBs is not a big deal anyway (it doesn't apply to you, as you said something about your ISP speed).Thanks, and you're right, I am limited to how much download I can do every day, but I don't mind--I just don't want to have to monitor (and retain) every post in this thread to know when I need to make the full DL again. :)

DMagic1

10th March 2010, 17:46

Untick "Force display of first subtitle track" from Subtitles and Audio TAB.

Ok, thanks. I didn't spot that.

deank

10th March 2010, 18:00

The option is there for almost 1 year already :) and is not specific to version 4.0

If you already created a compilation and don't want to re-run just because of this option, open index.bdmv with BDedit and edit the first command of object #256.

It says SetStream 2147598337,0 (51C00001 8001C001 00000000) -> replace it with NOP (00000000 00000000 00000000) to match the one I boxed in green. (edit the 2nd box first - the one with 8001C001 and then the 1st one)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_default_subsON.jpg

Puki

10th March 2010, 19:37

Hi Dean,

because I don't know whether this is a bug or just my misunderstanding, I am man enough to post it here. :rolleyes:

I've tried to have a compilation this afternoon (mix of BD and HD-DVB).

All HD-DVB was easily processed, but all of the BD-content got an error like this:

[18:07:32] Processing imported AVCHD/Blu-ray playlist...

[18:07:32] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00047.m2ts
[18:07:32] Input M2TS file missing/corrupted (k:\blu ray\dune\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m*ts). Replaced with empty clip!
[18:07:34] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00048.m2ts
[18:07:34] Input M2TS file missing/corrupted (k:\blu ray\dune\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m*ts). Replaced with empty clip!
[18:07:35] Media transfer: 00002 -> 00049.m2ts
[18:07:35] Input M2TS file missing/corrupted (k:\blu ray\dune\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m*ts). Replaced with empty clip!
[18:07:37] Media transfer: 00003 -> 00050.m2ts
[18:07:37] Input M2TS file missing/corrupted (k:\blu ray\dune\BDMV\STREAM\00003.m*ts). Replaced with empty clip!
[18:07:38] Media transfer: 00004 -> 00051.m2ts
[18:07:38] Input M2TS file missing/corrupted (k:\blu ray\dune\BDMV\STREAM\00004.m*ts). Replaced with empty clip!
[18:07:39] Processing playlist...
[18:07:40] Title #13 added: "Dune "
[18:07:48] Verifying title...
[18:08:05] Title has: 0 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

The drive K:\ is reachable for multiAVCHD (read only).

Regards

Puki

DMagic1

10th March 2010, 20:18

deank

10th March 2010, 21:02

Hi Dean,

...all of the BD-content got an error like this:

[18:07:32] Processing imported AVCHD/Blu-ray playlist...

[18:07:32] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00047.m2ts
[18:07:32] Input M2TS file missing/corrupted (k:\blu ray\dune\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m*ts). Replaced with empty clip!

The drive K:\ is reachable for multiAVCHD (read only).

Regards

Puki

You can't expect read-only source to work with [x] Move option. + multiAVCHD doesn't work well with read-only source folders/compilations. If your input compilation is multiAVCHD created and residing on a read-only drive make sure to untick [x] Move transitional files.

Dean

Puki

10th March 2010, 23:09

You can't expect read-only source to work with [x] Move option. + multiAVCHD doesn't work well with read-only source folders/compilations. If your input compilation is multiAVCHD created and residing on a read-only drive make sure to untick [x] Move transitional files.

Dean

I haven't checked move-option (neither "transitional" nor "(all)") :confused:

I try again with read/write ability and report...

Regards

Puki

Beatnut

11th March 2010, 11:13

Hi dean,

I tried to make a compilation containing a 1920x1080p video, when it was done muzing it gave an error, the file is 11 gigabyte, and is split up into 3 parts,
multiavchd says that tsmuxer didnt make a playlist file and that it is tsmuxers's fault, i tried again, still same error, what could be the problem?

Puki

11th March 2010, 19:11

I haven't checked move-option (neither "transitional" nor "(all)") :confused:

I try again with read/write ability and report...

Regards

Puki

I've tried the same .mpf-file, just enabling "full access" instead of "read only" and - it worked!

deank

11th March 2010, 19:34

Nice... If there was no need to show the COPY progress then this wouldn't be a problem, but people want to know what is going on and a lot of progress bars (10 if possible).

Dean :)

Puki

11th March 2010, 19:48

Nice... If there was no need to show the COPY progress then this wouldn't be a problem, but people want to know what is going on and a lot of progress bars (10 if possible).

Dean :)

FULL ACK

I've earlier changed the policy to "read only" because I lost some of my original files due to my fault of ticking "move transitional files" some time before :)

Puki

deank

11th March 2010, 22:25

Just a note:

[x] Move transitional files

WILL NEVER TOUCH original/input files/folders. It is applied only when importing multiAVCHD compilations. [x] all does the same, but in addition to multiAVCHD compilations it will move unknown/Blu-ray/AVCHD playlists (created with other applications, camcoders or blu-ray disc structures).

Dean

sucker

12th March 2010, 14:40

hello

i´m sorry if this has been asked before but this is way too much info to read up on, is MultiAVCHD using tsmuxer or has it some other/own muxing mechanism?

deank

12th March 2010, 18:32

It uses tsmuxer for some of the tasks.

mobie29

12th March 2010, 20:30

Hi Dean, fantastic work!!

I have a few basic questions from a newbie:

1. How do can i horizontal center my "headliner" and "footer" notations in "advanced menu settings"??

2. My chapter thumbnails do not playback on my player. When the disc is played, my top menu selection appears (XMB), but when i select each individual title, the thumbnails do not appear at all, whereas they appear in the chapter preview.

3. How come the "<" and ">" navigational arrows do not appear when i create "slide" or " carusel" menu when playing the dvd on my player? They appear when i use the menu preview.

Thanks for your help and continue the good work!!:thanks:

Dolsen

12th March 2010, 22:45

You could've clicked [remove] and then hold the [enter] key to delete more links, but editing the project works, too (I hope you edited/replaced -1 only in TLINKS tags).

If you have used multiAVCHD for preparing the titles (and not tsmuxer) you could've avoid remuxing of the input few times.

Add these three chapters should be the last thing for the last/final compilation.

edit: I'll also suggest to close and start multiAVCHD after each step and not using the [clear] button. Just to be sure that all is clean at each start.

Hi again,

Your tips to click once and hold [enter] key was superb, I don't need to replace -1 with -2 in text-editor, since pressing [enter] did it very fast. Yes, I did only replace -1 in TLINKS tags, no other places.

Here is my result from the test so far. I have to do some more testing, there was some problems with audio-sync after merging playlists and I need to find out where the out-of-sync arrived in the process.

Bye,
Dolsen

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/372209ecfb.jpg

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/ba4188a0c8.jpg

rendez2k

13th March 2010, 20:03

I thought I'd give the sideshow creation an option a shot. But, I got this error:

[18:52:57] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:08:24]
[18:53:34] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\templates\temp\Picture slideshow (100 pictures)[MAVCPSS-002].[1920x1080-23.976].264)
[18:53:34] *** Speed : 323.94 fps (elapsed: 00:00:37 - Realtime x 13.51)

[18:53:34] Cannot detect file size: (C:\multiAVCHD\templates\temp\Picture slideshow (100 pictures)[MAVCPSS-002].[1920x1080-23.976].264)
[18:53:34] *** Transcoding failed!
[18:53:34] *** Check ffdshow/avisynth/haali (reinstall)!
[18:53:34] *** DEBUG: Try to play [C:\multiAVCHD\tools\20100313-185257-uncrop-running.avs] in MPC or other player, which supports AviSynth scripts and report the error to the author!

[18:53:34] Retrying to transcode with FFMS2!
[18:53:34] Stand-by for indexing...

Are there some limitations to the type/size of source files that can be accepted? They are JPG files with 3888x2592 dimensions.

I can encode normal video files fine as I am doing right this moment so I don't think there is a software/codec issue. Playing the avs file in MPC results in an error in line 4.

deank

14th March 2010, 14:52

What is the error?

Music Fan

14th March 2010, 15:10

Hi Dean,
MultiAVCHD refuse some of my mpeg-2 files (interlaced), I don't understand why.
Here is an extract of the log ;
[14:03:53] Processing (P:\Vin.mpg)...
[14:03:53] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 720x576, fps=25.000
[14:03:53] Display properties: 1024x576 (AR:1.78)
[14:03:57] Adding LPCM audio track (ID#1)
[14:03:57] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[14:03:57] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[14:03:57] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
PROCESSING ERROR: No data received from tsMuxeR!
Trying again...
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:00:52.583;00:01:45.166;00:02:37.750;00:03:30.333;00:04:22.916;00:05:15.500;00:06:08.083;00:07:00.666;00:07:53.250;00:08:45.833;00:09:38.416 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG-2, "P:\Vin.mpg", insertSEI, contSPS, track=0, fps=25.000
A_LPCM, "C:\Program Files\MultiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100314\extAUD-1-Vin.wav", track=1, lang=fre, timeshift=0ms
===============================================================================

[14:04:05] tsMuxeR failed to process [P:\Vin août.mpg]...
I encoded myself these files and there's no problem to put them on dvd-video (with TMPG dvd author).

I chose PAL for the menu. I also tried PAL 24 but the issue was the same.

deank

14th March 2010, 15:13

Try to change the 'û' in "août" to "u" and try again. If it doesn't work, check tsMuxeR_GUI and see what error it will return.

rendez2k

14th March 2010, 16:05

See link for the error....
http://i39.tinypic.com/23wlkxy.jpg

deank

14th March 2010, 16:07

72 pictures may be too much. Use the option to split each 30 or 40 in separate title. It is a problem in avisynth and it can't open so many files at once.

Puki

15th March 2010, 08:57

Hi Dean,

after having a compilation-process running for nearly 24 hours, I've got an x264.exe error in a loop, when trying to extract 63 chapter-thumbs out of "Kingdom of Heaven". Seems, as if I can kick this compilation...

Suggestion: is it possible to have a button like "skip compiling this title", that works WHILE multiAVCHD is compiling?

So the work for all other titles wouldn't be gone. Or a button like "finish compilation right without actual title"...

Or "delete this title from compilation and go to next title"?

I know, that some menu-pages are then not correct becuase of the mising of this title.

But then I can re-compile this compiltion with "move transitional-files", what would save MUCH time :) (this time of course without the problematic title).

Regards

Puki

EDIT:

Maybe it could be another solution, if multiAVCHD would save the .mpf-file at different points of the compilation-process (because if I stop my compilation right now there isn't one).

I know, that I can stop my compilation right now and use the copied .m2ts-files for compiling again. But I cannot import the broken compilation as an "old compilation", so I have to reload all the files without title-names etc.

Summary: I would be lucky, if I could stop the compilation, and use all the good work in it for the next attempt (e.g. just without the problematic file or with a modified one).

Regards

Puki

Music Fan

15th March 2010, 09:47

Try to change the 'û' in "août" to "u" and try again. If it doesn't work, check tsMuxeR_GUI and see what error it will return.
Thanks !
I tried : "can't detect stream type". :confused:
There is no sound in the mpeg (It's separated in a Wav file), that's maybe a problem for TSMuxer.

deank

15th March 2010, 09:53

@Puki: Try to kill x264 until it passes chapter extraction. Then it should continue.

***

A quick fix in 736+

* Fixed crash when using hidden titles and custom thumblinks
* Fixed SAVE TEMPLATE when [x] move [x] all options are used

Dean

Puki

15th March 2010, 10:24

@Puki: Try to kill x264 until it passes chapter extraction. Then it should continue.

I've killed like a mass-murderer :devil: (at least 10 times) and I was watching the folders, where multiAVCHD places the extracted chapter-thumbs. There were 44 thumbs (of 63) and nothing happened...

The x264.exe-error came (after ca. 10s) again and again. Shall I continue killing? :p

Regards

Puki

deank

15th March 2010, 10:27

I guess another 20 times (for all 60+ chapters). :)

Puki

15th March 2010, 10:41

I will do, as soon as I'm at home.

I'll report (maybe with some pics of the massacre... :devil:)

Regards

Puki

Puki

15th March 2010, 13:31

YOU! WERE! SO! RIGHT! :thanks:

After killing x264.exe some times more, multiAVCHD was (re-)able to extract the last chapter-thumbs of this title again (only thumbs 45 - 51 out of 63 were not extracted :confused:) and now the process goes on.

But maybe some of my ideas are nevertheless worth of thinking about, because sometimes compilations may crash unrecoverable...

Best regards

Puki

speedway76

15th March 2010, 13:51

Hi Dean.
At creation of the menu the backgroundaudio sound manages with 640kbps.How to be changed sound with 640kbps to 192kbps?

deank

15th March 2010, 15:09

Bitrate is defined by the value in Subtitle&Audio "Non-HD audio bitrate" option.

***

multiUPDATE.exe was updated to 4.0.736... To get the new version either launch multiUPDATE.exe and then restart multiAVCHD or delete multiUPDATE.exe and start multiAVCHD.

drelin

15th March 2010, 17:13

A little request about the SETUP menu.
Can add a option to desactive the (X) close button (display and navigation).
On some custom menus, this button is not needed.

An other request, add "video and audio background" option for SETUP and CHAPTER menus, if it's aviable.

deank

15th March 2010, 17:22

I'll see what I can do (if possible).

Even if I add motion to chapter/setup menus it will last 32 seconds without looping.

flaviometal

16th March 2010, 00:19

Hello deank! The more I use multiAVCHD, more I like the software!

I have a problem: I'm trying to use a mkv file and an external SRT sub file, but after conversion, in setup menu, the external srt file that I've used appears as "English", even when I change the language to "POR" (portuguese) in External Subtitles guide (video properties). Why is that?

And a suggestion: is it possible to make the track name "changeable" and put whatever I want for external SRT subs (like the "audio track name" or embedded sub option)?

Thanks!

AJ500

16th March 2010, 00:21

I'm attempting to use the Join tab to create a single title from 35 .m2ts files from a camcorder. The m2ts files are the only files in the folder. The properties of the resultant camdump file has a duration of 01:11:44.000 which seems about right. However, the video that's displayed in the properties window seems to be one m2ts file duplicated for the entire length. That is, if I move the video timeline slider all the way to the right, I see frames from one file and no frames from the other 34 files. The camdump.txt file has 35 chapter points, but they are all within the first 20 minutes

Is this a bug or have I missed as needed setting? I was expecting a single title from the joined files with the chapter points at the beginning of each joined file.

I'm using 4.0.736

deank

16th March 2010, 09:18

deank

16th March 2010, 09:19

flaviometal

16th March 2010, 11:47

Do you click "change" when you change the language to POR?

Yep. And saved/opened the project to confirm this.

Naming is possible only for INTERNAL subtitle tracks (not for the external).

OK. I'll try to import srt to mkv file. Thanks.

drelin

16th March 2010, 12:54

Yep. And saved/opened the project to confirm this.

Naming is possible only for INTERNAL subtitle tracks (not for the external).

OK. I'll try to import srt to mkv file. Thanks.

Other way for automatic name code subtitle track is :
Direct name the "srt file" like as :
video.fra.srt
"Video" is for the same name of your mkv video file
"Fra" is for language code used for naming and reconize by the player. (Fra for french language code is this sample).

But check the correct code, something two existing codes are avialable for on language but only one is supported by the player.
(sample for French language 2 codes exist "fre" and "fra" but only fra works correctly for european player products).

You see codes on this link (original source found on Multiavchd Forums - Hit and Tips section)

http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php

Edit :
After check the list, only one is aviable for "Portuguese" language code : por, you use the correct code.

deank

16th March 2010, 16:41

I think it is time to add mkv2avi.exe to multiAVCHD package... It got some nice 'upgrades' like ETA and preview... There is no need to download 20-30MBs when it can be part of the whole package with all of my tools:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/mkv2avi_transcode-1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/mkv2avi_transcode-2.jpg

Current version will be 2.3 build 104.

Dean

flaviometal

16th March 2010, 17:40

Other way for automatic name code subtitle track is :
Direct name the "srt file" like as :
video.fra.srt
"Video" is for the same name of your mkv video file
"Fra" is for language code used for naming and reconize by the player. (Fra for french language code is this sample).

Renaming the SRT did the trick, deank. Thanks!

One more question: the only subs that appears in setup menu preview mode are the embedded ones. Is it possible to make the external srt appears in preview mode?

AJ500

18th March 2010, 03:42

You didn't miss anything... I'll check it, but since I didn't change anything about m2ts-join I guess there is a problem with tsdemux, which handles the join.

If you have the original playlist(s) of these m2ts files you can join/merge the playlists and still have one title (with many m2ts files).

I have some more info on the problem. To try to determine if the problem is with tsDemux, I processed the 35 m2ts files with tsDemux and then passed its output to mkvmerge with the parameters suggested by tsDemux:

mkvmerge -o output.mkv --chapters C:\Temp\chapters.xml --timecodes 0:C:\Temp\20100314130406.track_4113.tmc C:\Temp\20100314130406.track_4113.264 --timecodes 0:C:\Temp\20100314130406.track_4352.tmc C:\Temp\20100314130406.track_4352.ac3

The resultant output.mkv is with the 35 files joined properly and it plays ok.

I loaded output.mkv into multiAVCHD and the chapters are where they should be. I created a Blu-ray structure and the chapter thumbnails are present.

However, the Blu-ray image play is jerky. Is that a framerate problem? The original .m2ts files are 29.97; output.mkv is 58.824 (original 29.97); and stream 00000.m2ts is 58.824.

from one of the original files:

General
ID : 0
Complete name : C:\Temp\20100314130406.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 29.0 MiB
Duration : 15s 750ms
Overall bit rate : 15.4 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 18.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Duration : 14s 881ms
Bit rate : 14.4 Mbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.308
Stream size : 25.5 MiB (88%)

from output.mkv:

General
Complete name : C:\Temp\output.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 2.06 GiB
Duration : 19mn 11s
Overall bit rate : 15.4 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-03-18 01:07:38
Writing application : mkvmerge v3.1.0 ('Happy up here') built on Jan 19 2010 12:09:24
Writing library : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.0
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 19mn 7s
Bit rate : 14.7 Mbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 58.824 fps
Original frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.160
Stream size : 1.96 GiB (95%)

from Blu-ray stream:

General
ID : 1
Complete name : C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_bday\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 2.16 GiB
Duration : 19mn 11s
Overall bit rate : 16.1 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Duration : 19mn 7s
Bit rate : 15.1 Mbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 58.824 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.165
Stream size : 2.01 GiB (93%)
Language : English / /

Does this help solve the problem?
Thanks,
AJ

deank

18th March 2010, 07:01

deank

18th March 2010, 11:29

Something new, which probably will be available soon:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sddvd-title.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sddvd-output.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sddvd.jpg

It allows similar to HD-DVD functionality - one title per disc, hard-burned subtitles (probably soft once I find a way how to). Now this should allow converting blu-ray playlists (branched or non-branched) to dvd. [SD-DVD] produces DVD output, compatible with standard DVD players.

Here is a log from a compilation I made few mins ago, importing Ghost Rider Blu-ray disc :)

[14:18:44] Initialising...
[14:18:44] Checking for new version...
[14:18:44] New version/build found!
[14:18:44] Consistency check finished!
[14:18:44] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[14:18:44] 1 year and 82 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[14:18:44] 261 people supported it with donations
[14:18:44] and you are the 1278308 one to launch the program...
[14:18:44] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[14:18:44] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04000733]

[14:22:21] *** Scanning playlist (00065.mpls). Please wait...
[14:22:22] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[14:22:22] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 02:03:25.398] [00:00:11.650]
[14:22:24] *** Detected media file: [00066.m2ts, 02:03:25.395] (31502 MiB)
[14:22:24] *** Playitem size exceeds split point of 4000 MiB (set in Author tab).
[14:22:24] *** Playlist marked for full processing mode. (split/join)
[14:22:25] *** Detected media file: [00087.m2ts, 00:00:00.000] (9 MiB)
[14:22:25] *** Detected sub-path #: [ID#000, IN: 00:00:11.650] [IGS]
[14:22:25] *** Detected chapters #: 00:00:00.000;00:09:21.394;00:18:28.690;...
[14:22:25] *** Playlist duration : 02:03:25 (31511 MiB)

[14:23:28] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[14:23:29] Destination [D:]: NTFS, 12125.18 MiB (11.841 GiB) free space
[14:23:29] Temp folder [D:]: NTFS, 12125.18 MiB (11.841 GiB) free space

[14:23:29] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 736)
[14:23:29] Selected output mode: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc)

[14:23:29] Processing one title...
[14:23:30] Processing PLAYLIST (full mode) (split/join) (I:\GHOST_RIDER\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00065.mpls)...
[14:23:30] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[14:23:30] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[14:23:30] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
[14:23:31] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[14:23:31] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[14:23:31] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[14:23:31] Only this video track will be used!
[14:23:31] Detected media file: 00066.m2ts
[14:23:31] Detected main PI#000: 00066.m2ts, Duration: [02:03:25.398], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 02:03:37.048]
[14:23:31] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4352 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[14:23:31] Using audio: A_LPCM (ID#4353 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[14:23:31] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4354 / language: hun / delay: 0)
[14:23:31] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4355 / language: pol / delay: 0)
[14:23:31] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4356 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[14:23:31] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4357 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[14:23:31] Using subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[14:23:31] Using subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: bul
[14:23:31] Using subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: hrv
[14:23:31] Using subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: hun
[14:23:31] Using subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: pol
[14:23:31] Using subtitles: ID#4613:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ron
[14:23:31] Using subtitles: ID#4614:S_HDMV/PGS Language: slv
[14:23:31] Using subtitles: ID#4615:S_HDMV/PGS Language: tur
[14:23:31] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[14:24:15] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[14:24:15] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[14:24:15] *** Initiating video encoding:

[14:24:15] *** Original : 1920x1080
[14:24:15] *** Crop : 0
[14:24:15] *** Resize : 720x480
[14:24:15] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[14:24:15] *** Sharpen : 0
[14:24:15] *** Bitrate : 4000 kbps
[14:24:15] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[14:24:24] Cannot detect file size: (D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100318\20100318-142331-3893\BDMV\STREAM\00000.[720x480-29.970].m2v)
[14:31:20] *** Transcoding successful!

[14:31:20] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 720x480, fps=29.970
[14:31:20] Display properties: 853x480 (AR:1.78)
[14:31:20] Encoding ac3 audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[14:32:50] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (eng)...
[14:32:50] Detected subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[14:32:50] Detected subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: bul
[14:32:50] Detected subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: hrv
[14:32:50] Detected subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: hun
[14:32:50] Detected subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: pol
[14:32:50] Detected subtitles: ID#4613:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ron
[14:32:50] Detected subtitles: ID#4614:S_HDMV/PGS Language: slv
[14:32:50] Detected subtitles: ID#4615:S_HDMV/PGS Language: tur
[14:32:50] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[14:32:50] AR of 16:9 will be set for this title.
[14:32:50] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
[14:32:50] Copying audio to source folder for re-use...
[14:32:50] Creating SD-DVD structure...
[14:32:53] SD-DVD muxing completed!

[14:32:53] SD-DVD title saved:
[14:32:53] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_GR_DVDS\[DVD]\GHOST RIDER

[14:32:53] Compilation contains 1 HD-DVD titles and no AVCHD/Blu-ray titles!

[14:32:53] Preparing menu pages...
[14:32:54] Setting main menu for 0 titles...
[14:32:54] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[14:32:57] Done!

Compilation summary:
Format: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc) (mixed with HD/SD-DVD)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. 1 HD-DVD/SD-DVD titles
===============================================================================
Output size : 161 MiB (0.157 GiB)

[14:32:57] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_GR_DVDS folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[14:32:57] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!

[14:32:57] Compilation contains HD-DVD/SD-DVD titles placed in [HD-DVD]/[DVD] folder.
[14:32:57] Burn each HD-DVD/SD-DVD title folder contents (both HVDVD_TS and VIDEO_TS for HD-DVD) to a separate DVD disc.

[14:32:59] You may now remove temp folder (D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100318\).

[14:32:59] multiAVCHD finished in 569.248 seconds (00:09:29.247)!

[14:32:59] End of log.

[14:32:59] Cleaning up...
[14:32:59] Done!

[14:32:59] For technical support, bug reports and questions:

[14:32:59] http://multiforum.deanbg.com/
[14:32:59] http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/
[14:32:59] http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

And at the end you get the video, 1 audio and the chapters :)

Dean

AJ500

18th March 2010, 17:32

Without using mkvmerge, can you import .264 in multiAVCHD, then add .ac3 as external audio and .xml as chapters? If needed, [alter detected properties] and set proper framerate.

You can retry the import in multiAVCHD, since it is possible that the 1st time only the preview was wrong, but the final mux could've been okay.

I did as you suggested and retried the Join of the 35 files in multiAVCHD. The unaltered properties of the camdump file show a duration of ~ 01:11:44.000. I altered the duration to the proper duration of 1151 seconds, used the camdump.txt file for chapters, and reset the thumbnails.

The preview is still not correct. However, the resultant Blu-ray image is now correct.

Any idea why the proper duration is not detected? Is it because the .264 stream doesn't have fps data?

deank

18th March 2010, 17:55

Yes, duration of elementary streams cannot be detected/calculated properly before they're muxed into a container.

deank

18th March 2010, 20:24

Build 737:

* Full download required if you want to use (SD)DVD basic authoring. Link #1 (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.0.exe) / Link #2 (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download/)
* Added another output/authoring mode for standard DVD players (SD-DVD).

In SD-DVD output mode multiAVCHD will generate [DVD] folder with subfolders for each of the compilation titles, ready to burn to DVD5/DVD9 (VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders)

SD-DVD output mode supports:

* Original chapters
* 1 audio track (forcefully encoded to AC3)
* 1 external subtitle track
* 1 hard-burned subtitle track

Supported subtitles:

* Text based SRT, MicroDVD SUB and Blu-ray SUP subtitles for hard-burned DVD subtitles
* Text based SRT and Blu-ray SUP subtitles for soft DVD subtitles.

To use subtitles in this mode you need to have them as EXTERNAL tracks. Internal Blu-ray or file-embeded subtitles won't be used.

If there is any interest in this feature at all, I'll add more audio/subtitle tracks support.

***

Using SD-DVD output mode you can import virtually any format (files, Blu-ray structures, playlists, AVCHD playlists, DVD folders or IFO playlists) and output to standard DVD format.

Examples of using this mode:

* Camcoder users shoot a lot of HD material. Exporting to DVD is an easy way to share their videos with relatives and family, which don't own Blu-ray players, but have DVD players at home
* Back-up your Blu-ray Disc (movie-only) to a DVD and watch it in the other (non bdp equipped) room, or pass it to your children to watch in their room :)

Dean

rendez2k

18th March 2010, 22:16

Thanks Dean - looks like a great update. Sorry if this is a stupid question, when you say it supports virtually any SD file import, does this include xvid files? I get no preview and a warning that xvid transcode not supported?

Edit: with MPEG2 files I get Avisynth open failure. ConvertFPS: requires YUY2 input.

deank

18th March 2010, 22:35

I'll need to check about MPEG2 but XviD works just fine here.

rendez2k

18th March 2010, 22:39

Thanks dean. Should I get a preview with xvid?

seskookses

19th March 2010, 07:40

I have a blu-ray with a lot of audios and subtitles. So I tried to remove some audios to fit movie to BD25.
But I get this error:
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4629:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ron
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4630:S_HDMV/PGS Language: srp
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4631:S_HDMV/PGS Language: slk
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4632:S_HDMV/PGS Language: slv
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4633:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ota
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4634:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ukr
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4635:S_HDMV/PGS Language: rus
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4636:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4637:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4638:S_HDMV/PGS Language: por
[07:15:35] Using subtitles: ID#4639:S_HDMV/PGS Language: kor
[07:15:35] No valid information found! (00001.mpls)...
[07:15:35] *** Failed!
[07:32:46] *** [00002.mpls] - Processing playlist
[07:32:49] *** [00003.mpls] - Processing playlist
[07:32:50] *** [00004.mpls] - Processing playlist
[07:32:50] *** [00005.mpls] - Processing playlist

Then at the end program just copy original file in which is movie and it does not strip audios.

Can maybe someone please help me, what is the problem.

deank

19th March 2010, 08:27

Thanks dean. Should I get a preview with xvid?

Yes... It has nothing to do with the DVD output. I have preview and transcode working for all media types/codecs. It depends on your configuration/decoders.

I have a blu-ray with a lot of audios and subtitles. So I tried to remove some audios to fit movie to BD25.
But I get this error:

Can maybe someone please help me, what is the problem.

What version/build did you use? A complete log will be easier to understand. You can send it to my email (it is in the about tab of multiAVCHD).

Dean

seskookses

19th March 2010, 09:12

I am using the latest version and I sent you a log file on your e-mail.

Thanks

deank

19th March 2010, 11:22

I am using the latest version and I sent you a log file on your e-mail.

Thanks

There is something wrong with your input folder/files... I don't know what you used to pre-process it but it seems that the important things are not there (at least not in 00001.mpls):

[07:12:03] *** 1. ARMORED
[07:12:03] *** Scanning playlist (00001.mpls). Please wait...
[07:12:04] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[07:12:04] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 01:27:53.267] [00:00:11.650]
[07:12:09] *** Detected media file: [00011.m2ts, 01:27:53.258] (0 MiB)
[07:12:09] *** Detected chapters #: 00:00:00.000;00:05:03.136;00:12:45.514...
[07:12:09] *** Playlist duration : 01:27:53 (0 MiB)

seskookses

19th March 2010, 11:42

Weird. I used latest anydvd to pre-process it and file size of 00011.m2ts is 25 GB on my disc.

deank

19th March 2010, 11:44

For some reason multiAVCHD cannot detect its size. It can happen if the file is on a read-only media/mounted.

deank

19th March 2010, 11:56

There is a quick fix for SD-DVD output, when using joined camcoder m2ts files (resulting in elementary .264 + .ac3). It is now possible to create DVD from such sources. Use multiUPDATE.exe to get the fix.

HD><Blu

19th March 2010, 12:21

Nice :) keep up the good work

Capsbackup

19th March 2010, 21:36

deank, just wondering if it is possible to reencode a DTS HD audio to DD 5.1 640kbps while in Reauthor mode? I see that the core can be kept, but since a DTS core can be quite large too, this is why I ask.
I am experimenting with reauthoring a Blu-Ray to AVCHD, BD5/9 size, by just removing some audio files I do not want to keep, blanking the warnings and adverts I choose, and transcoding the main movie and perhaps a few larger extras to smaller size so that it will fit the BD5/9 size disc.

deank

19th March 2010, 22:04

Re-author mode in multiAVCHD is completely separated from all other 'conversion' functions and it will be quite a task. Are you really sure that 768 DTS core take so much space, compared to 640 AC3? (20% is ~ 100-200MBs).

***

And again about SD-DVD output...

It seems muxman is not very cooperative :) application. If a single chapter mark is outside the program/cell boundaries, muxman will create the VOBs but will fail to create the main _TS.IFO... Too bad, really. At the moment (with the latest fix with multiUPDATE.exe) the last chapter is automatically removed (just to be safe).

I just converted my Ghost Rider blu-ray copy to DVD (for ~2hrs - 0.9xRealtime) but although the output is okay, it is 'shorter' with ~8 seconds...

DVD: 02:03:17 / BD: 02:03:25....

I don't know if the pulldown has to do with it, but the last chapter set @ 02:03:24 caused all to fail...

// edit: Now, after I burned the DVD and played it in the PS3, duration shows 02:03:25.... weird!

Otherwise, subtitle audio and quality are just fine :) In fact the DVD 480p quality in 1080p (after the internal Playstaion3 upscale) is great! :D

Dean

// edit 2: [alter detected properties] button in Title Properties allows you to mark added *.m2v DVD compliant files as [x] (HD)DVD compliant to avoid unnecessary re-encoding :)

Adub

19th March 2010, 23:31

Capsbackup

20th March 2010, 02:04

Re-author mode in multiAVCHD is completely separated from all other 'conversion' functions and it will be quite a task. Are you really sure that 768 DTS core take so much space, compared to 640 AC3? (20% is ~ 100-200MBs).

The DTS core is 1.19GB, but a converted to DD 640kbps AC3 is 520MB, a considerable difference!
Anyway, not a problem, I was just curious if the option was there and I just didn't see it.
Thanks. :)

deank

20th March 2010, 09:14

Deank, I could kiss you!

I plan on having a tutorial for converting Blu-rays to DVD using MultiAVCHD out on Adubvideo in the next couple of days.

Man! I can't wait to get home and start playing around with this wonderful software that you have created!

Oh, and if I may ask, what MPEG2 encoder are you using? HCenc?

QueEnc :)

The DTS core is 1.19GB, but a converted to DD 640kbps AC3 is 520MB, a considerable difference!
Anyway, not a problem, I was just curious if the option was there and I just didn't see it.

If the playlist is processed in full mode (like you do) I think it is possible to honor the settings in Subtitles&Audio tab for HD audio conversion.

Let me see and I'll post back :)

deank

20th March 2010, 15:23

Note about subtitles and SD-DVD output:

* Colors were missing in Settings.xml file for SubtitleCreator, so you can download the proper file (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/Settings.xml) (10kb) and put it in .\multiAVCHD\tools\SubtitleCreator\Data\ folder

* It is now possible to use [x] Advanced subtitle processing for SD-DVD mode. It means that you can create better-looking subtitles.

* Internal/embedded ASS/SSA/SRT in MKV files are supported and external ASS/SSA/SRT/SUB/IDX, too.

Setting a title as SD-DVD compliant will make multiAVCHD skip the step with applying pulldown for NTSC m2v files.

Bitrate suggestions are not really correct, so you may use a bit higher bitrates.

Dean

rendez2k

20th March 2010, 17:03

Can you only add one SD title per disc? I added two xvids and got two output folders?

deank

20th March 2010, 17:47

Yes, as I posted yesterday - SD-DVD output is similar to HD-DVD output - one title=one disc/VIDEO_TS to burn.

rendez2k

20th March 2010, 18:18

Cheers dean. Sorry I missed that! Do you think multi title and menu support will come for sd in the future?

deank

20th March 2010, 18:35

Well... If there is a real need for this... Converting HD material to SD DVD usually means ONE HD title to one GOOD LOOKING SD title :)

***

Some good news for those of you who import DVDs and transcode/convert to Blu-ray/AVCHD.

Since DGPulldown.exe is already in multiAVCHD package (if you don't have it - download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/DGPulldown.exe)it and put it in tools folder) transcoding of NTSC DVD discs is all *ok* now.

Until now FF2ms was required for such conversions and sometimes it lead to audio/video a-synchronization.

In the latest update, transcoding of NTSC (29.970) DVD titles works as it should:

* 1st pull down is removed
* subtitles are converted properly to 23.976fps
* transcoding is performed with 24p source

The result - audio, subtitles and video are converted properly to Blu-ray 720x480i.

You'll notice messages in the log:

[19:51:39] Pre-processing DVD input (G:\VIDEO_TS\)...
[19:51:40] *** Detected duration: 00:01:01
[19:51:40] *** Subtitles: 720x480 29.970 ID#0 (fra)...
[19:51:40] *** Extracting subtitles ID#0 (mencoder)...
[19:51:42] *** This title is marked for transcode/resize...
[19:51:42] *** Setting new subtitle resolution: 720x480 29.970
[19:51:42] *** Setting new subtitle framerate after pulldown-removal: 23.976
[19:51:42] *** Converting DVD subtitles to Blu-ray format (java:BDSup2Sub)...
[19:51:46] *** Imported subpictures: 22/22
...
[19:51:48] Pre-processing completed!
[19:51:48] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[19:51:48] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[19:51:48] *** Initiating video encoding:

[19:51:48] *** Original : 720x480
[19:51:48] *** Crop : 0
[19:51:48] *** Resize : 720x480 (No change)
[19:51:49] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[19:51:49] *** Sharpen : 0
[19:51:49] *** Bitrate : 3000 kbps
[19:51:49] *** Frame rate: Original (PDR: 23.976)
[19:51:49] *** Level : 3
[19:51:49] *** B-frames : 3
[19:51:49] *** Ref-frames: 4
[19:51:49] *** GOP size : 48 (keyframe min. each 4 frames)
[19:51:49] *** Quality : One pass (turbo)
[19:51:49] *** SAR : 40:33
[19:51:49] *** DAR : 853x480
[19:51:49] *** Removing pulldown...
[19:51:55] *** Re-packing elementary H.264/MPEG-2 stream...

[19:51:58] *** Profile : Blu-ray
[19:51:58] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:01:01]
[19:52:35] *** Speed : 39.52 fps (elapsed: 00:00:37 - Realtime x 1.65)

[19:52:35] *** Transcoding successful!

[19:52:36] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:16).
[19:52:36] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 720x480, fps=23.976, ref=4
[19:52:36] Display properties: 853x480 (AR:1.78)

***

I'm having some weird problems with muxman and will be glad to get some help (mpucoder?)...

For some reason (sometimes?!), subtitles are available only in the first .VOB and not in the rest of the DVD video files...

Input .sup file is correct and seems okay. It is accepted and used, but subtitles are not showing when 2nd/3rd .vob is played by the DVD player. I'll do some more tests, but it takes a lot of time on my PC with each 4.4GB dvd-test files :(

Dean

rendez2k

20th March 2010, 19:01

Well... If there is a real need for this... Converting HD material to SD DVD usually means ONE HD title to one GOOD LOOKING SD title :)

True, but I was thinking of creating SD compilations from short xvid files etc.

deank

20th March 2010, 19:06

I think avs2dvd (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=126647)will suit you much better. It supports menus and multiple audio/subtitle streams + multiple titles (thanks to muxman app). I tested it first time yesterday - really nice and easy to use app (avs2dvd) and it inspired me to add DVD output in multiAVCHD.

Dean

claymic

20th March 2010, 19:20

AJ500

20th March 2010, 23:29

...
***

Some good news for those of you who import DVDs and transcode/convert to Blu-ray/AVCHD.
...
Dean

Just curious. What's the advantage of converting DVDs to Blu-ray?

I have lots of DVDs that I made from SD camcorders. Does this mean I could create a single Blu-ray image from multiple DVDs?

AJ

Adub

21st March 2010, 02:05

@AJ500, yes that is exactly what you can do. For example, you can put all the Matrix movies on one disk, or all of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies on one disk, or....well you get the idea.

@deank,
Thanks for the response! Any reason why you didn't choose HCenc? I know that it is often considered (specifically on this forum) to be one of the best free encoders out there.

But don't feel like I'm pressuring you! Quenc will work just fine for now. I plan on testing it out tonight and report back my results.

mpucoder

21st March 2010, 03:08

I'm having some weird problems with muxman and will be glad to get some help (mpucoder?)...
Glad to help, if I can. PM me about the subs. As for chaptering, the input to MuxMan lists the first frame number of each chapter, zero referenced. The first chapter is assumed to be at frame 0. The usual problems are:
1) Re-encoded video has moved the I-frames. MuxMan will move the chapter point up in time to the next I-frame and note the move in its log. If you want exact chaptering make sure the I-frames are in the same place (at least at the chapter points). Some encoders allow forcing I-frames, others support segmented encodes.
2) The infamous last chapter problem. This has 2 causes, either using a chapter list with the number of frames as the last entry or a very short last chapter (12 frames is common to prevent the "Next" button from skipping to the next title) with the I-frame moved.

deank

21st March 2010, 12:07

Any reason why you didn't choose HCenc? I know that it is often considered (specifically on this forum) to be one of the best free encoders out there.

I included HcEnc, too - there is an option in settings tab to choose which mpeg2 encoder to use. I'll publish the new build a bit later - now I'm testing hcenc and fighting with bitrates and size estimation :)

Glad to help, if I can. PM me about the subs.

:rolleyes: It seems that the chapters work as they should, but subtitles cause me headache. Here they are (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/song-list.rar). The .sup file is prepared by avisynth+avs2bdnxml+bdsup2sub. :)

Dean

deank

21st March 2010, 13:06

Build 738:

* HcEnc (ver 0.24) is added in the full-download. If you don't want to download the whole package, download (http://www.videohelp.com/download/HC024_beta_16-02-2010.zip)HCenc.exe and place it in .\tools\ folder, named as HCenc.exe.
* Option in settings to choose [QuEnc - 1-pass] / [HCenc - 2-pass] as MPEG-2 encoder for SD-DVD output
* Fixed preview in 'Transcode' window (probably broken few builds ago). Un-crop bars are properly displayed again.

Dean

VincAlastor

21st March 2010, 14:10

if your cool sd-dvd project is finished, can you break the 32 sec bg video limit, if i unchecked thumbnails or something else, which is makes so complicated?

deank

21st March 2010, 17:59

deank

21st March 2010, 18:08

Glad to help, if I can. PM me about the subs.

Ok... it gets weirder... :)

1) If I do chapter-skip with the remote, subtitles won't show after certain point (video in 2nd+ vob)

2) If I don't do chapter skip - subtitles are ALL THERE

3) If I do chapter skip, but then rewind just 5-10 seconds - subtitles show.

I guess the chapter-land-points are just few frames off from subtitle-show-point and it caused the confusion.

That is in my PS3... I guess all is okay, so don't waste time on it. I guess it is just the subtitle file I'm using (not normal movie - conversation-type, but subtitles each 5-10 mins).

Thank you, mpucoder for the great application! I was never into DVD stuff, but for the last 2 days I can see what you've done! Thank you! :thanks:

deank

21st March 2010, 18:22

I just finished another test compilation for 1080p to SD-DVD 480p with 2pass HCenc mpeg2 and I'll just say I'M AMAZED. HD 1920x1080p@23.976 -> SD-DVD 720x480@23.976 looks GREAT...

The quality is not just great - it is SUPERB... No macroblocks, no blur... Just pristine... And subtitles are showing all the way through...

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/SD-DVD-cool.jpg

I'm sorry to double-triple post, but I didn't expect such thing in SD resolution, after being mostly into HD content processing! And I'm exited... I really am!

laserfan

21st March 2010, 19:11

The quality is not just great - it is SUPERB... Yeah isn't that something; it makes you wonder doesn't it, what kind of sources are used for typical commercial DVD transfers, as these home-brews from HD sources can be so much better...!

deank

21st March 2010, 20:26

Well, yeah... I have few DVD discs, but I'd say the one I just got after HD->SD conversion beats them all in quality by far! :) Another one is on the way (animation) and I'll post about it... Cool new field :)

***

As expected the animation video encoded to great looking DVD picture:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_DVD_ani_01.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_DVD_ani_04.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_DVD_ani_02.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_DVD_ani_03.jpg

setarip_old

21st March 2010, 21:47

@deank

Hi!

I hate to sound contrary but, the animation screencaps you've posted here are a bit fuzzy/soft, especially if they're from an HD downconversion...

deank

21st March 2010, 22:01

These are jpeg caps from TMT2... Looks great when played in my PS3 rescaled. Surely the output (1920x1080->720x480) is not blured at all. I'm pleased with the output anyway.

rendez2k

21st March 2010, 22:08

What's the easiest way to select the main title from a br? I would have thought the largest m2ts but one I have seems to be split down into many smaller files.

setarip_old

21st March 2010, 23:48

@deank

Sorry - somehow I knew it would touch a sensitive spot no matter how I worded it. It's just that animations/CGI that I've previously downconverted with DVD Flick have seemed a bit more crisp...

deank

21st March 2010, 23:56

:rolleyes: No - I got you, but since my experience with SD-DVD is not so rich, I just shared my look/observation about the outcome. Either I'm not so picky (=false) or I'm really pleased with what I can see, when I play the downconverted HD video in DVD format.

I said, I'm using Playstation3 and 1920x1080 plasma TV - I'm satisfied with what I see. That's all about it.

:) Dean

Pelican9

22nd March 2010, 00:57

I would just like to say how impressed I am with your work!
Congratulations!

I've just downloaded and seen multiAVCHD...

Edit:
One little thing: Why do you lunch Internet Explorer instead of the system's default browser?

Adub

22nd March 2010, 02:52

Hi Deank, I just installed Win 7 x64 bit, and I was wondering if multiAVCHD works on 64 bit operating systems? Have you tested it at all?

AJ500

22nd March 2010, 04:56

I'm trying to create a SD-DVD from a 1440x1080 m2ts file. I chose AviSynth Resize 720x480 (4:3) and 2 Pass HQ

I'm getting an avisynth open failure: ConvertFPS: New frame rate too small. Must be greater than 924.8982
(C:\multiAVCHD\tools\20100321-232245-uncrop-running.avs,line 14)

The contents of that file are:
loadplugin("C:\multiAVCHD\tools\Decomb.dll")

filename="D:\Temp\2-16-2010\20100210112903.m2ts"
b = directshowsource(filename,audio=false).FieldDeinterlace().LanczosResize( 720,640).crop(0,80,0,-80)

bordersizeX=int((720-width(b))/2)
bordersizeY=int((480-height(b))/2)
AddBorders(b, bordersizeX, bordersizeY, bordersizeX, bordersizeY)

b=last

b=b.ConvertFPS(24000,1001).ConvertToYV12()

return b

I have AviSynth 2.5.8 installed. What should I look for?

Blackwalker

22nd March 2010, 06:33

hi deank, (sorry for my english, hope its fine!!!)

i just found your program and i'd like to start using it.
I'd like to use it, for now, just to resize a mkv file form 27GB to 22GB.
I have Win 7 x64 bit.

multiAVCHD works on 64 bit?
I have only to set "transcode media fit(MiB)=22000 (22GB)" and "Media (m2ts) split at (MiB)=0" or what?

can you give me a little help, like i say before i'd like to split a mkv file from 27GB to 22GB.

thanks :)

Adub

22nd March 2010, 08:56

@BlackWalker
Unfortunately (as I'm just finding out for myself today) multiAVCHD doesn't appear to support 64-bit (yet).

It looks like I may have to switch to 32-bit Windows 7 for a little while.

rendez2k

22nd March 2010, 08:58

@BlackWalker
Unfortunately (as I'm just finding out for myself today) multiAVCHD doesn't appear to support 64-bit (yet).

It looks like I may have to switch to 32-bit Windows 7 for a little while.

Works great here on 64-bit Win 7 and always has!

deank

22nd March 2010, 09:11

Hi Deank, I just installed Win 7 x64 bit, and I was wondering if multiAVCHD works on 64 bit operating systems? Have you tested it at all?

2 months ago I installed win7 64bit just to make sure multiAVCHD is working. I only installed ffdshow, haali and avisynth, launched multiAVCHD and transcoded a clip + created a menu. Then I deleted win7 :)

I'm trying to create a SD-DVD from a 1440x1080 m2ts file. I chose AviSynth Resize 720x480 (4:3) and 2 Pass HQ

I'm getting an avisynth open failure:

I'll test with such m2ts.

I would just like to say how impressed I am with your work!

Edit:
One little thing: Why do you lunch Internet Explorer instead of the system's default browser?

:rolleyes: Because I didn't know how to launch the default :) using the programing kit I'm using (CalcIt). I'll change it.

Dean

crl2007

22nd March 2010, 09:47

I just finished another test compilation for 1080p to SD-DVD 480p with 2pass HCenc mpeg2 and I'll just say I'M AMAZED. HD 1920x1080p@23.976 -> SD-DVD 720x480@23.976 looks GREAT... I don't know if the PS3 does the great upscale but it looks perfect. 2hrs 25mins of a concert video took about 3 hours with 2-pass encoding with HCenc and the result with 448 ac3 got written to a DVD-R after DGPulldown processing and Muxman authoing. Great free tools out there, doing great job!

For low-end systems the .avi HD is the solution.

HD 1920x1080p@23.976 -> AVI HD 1280x720@23.976 and this is the result:

http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/7306/9f33f373055271.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9f33f373055271) http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/7306/ce231273055269.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/ce231273055269) http://thumbnails28.imagebam.com/7306/d3d4fd73055264.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/d3d4fd73055264)

Maybe you'll insert xvid as an encoder as well. These movies play well even on PC's with P4 and 256 mb/ram. It's the closest thing they can have to HD.

deank

22nd March 2010, 10:06

I'm trying to create a SD-DVD from a 1440x1080 m2ts file. I chose AviSynth Resize 720x480 (4:3) and 2 Pass HQ

Update with multiUPDATE.exe. This problem exists for very-very long time, when converting between framerates when destination fps is 1.5 slower than the original.

Also make sure to select the proper resize-resolution in the 'TRANSCODE' window. x264 settings in transcode window have no effect when doing SD-DVD :) Select MPEG-2 encoder in SETTINGS tab to be [HCenc 2-pass].

@crl2007: xvidenc_raw is included in multiAVCHD package and is used by my other tool mkv2avi, which produces HD XviD avi files.

deank

22nd March 2010, 10:27

What's the easiest way to select the main title from a br? I would have thought the largest m2ts but one I have seems to be split down into many smaller files.

Import the whole BDMV folder and multiAVCHD will scan all playlists. Then you can see which one is the main movie (the longest duration). Remove all other playlists/titles and process the main-movie only.

crl2007

22nd March 2010, 11:42

I usually encode with my own command line or by using some of my modified presets for MeGUI + avisynth script with some filters. That's why I said that it would be nice to be included in multiAVCHD as an option.

rendez2k

22nd March 2010, 11:49

Import the whole BDMV folder and multiAVCHD will scan all playlists. Then you can see which one is the main movie (the longest duration). Remove all other playlists/titles and process the main-movie only.

And would I use BR re-author or not? It imports about 50 playlists!

deank

22nd March 2010, 11:57

It depends on what you're going to do. Do not enter re-author mode, because you can't remove playlists. After you import the folder, use the [remove] button and remove all playlists except the largest one (or set higher value in "Do not import AVCHD/DVD playlists if shorter than: **** seconds" in AUTHOR tab - for example 3600 and you'll get only the playlist longer than 1 hour).

@crl2007: I'd like to keep multiAVCHD as an authoring application, not as 'video converter'. There are a lot of 'file-encoders' out there already.

crl2007

22nd March 2010, 13:01

You are right.

daberti

22nd March 2010, 14:47

@Deank

Time for a new donation...meanwhile...having a bunch of Bluray titles and wishing to convert them not to AVCHD but to standard DVD and playable on DVD players, what should I do (beside setting proper transcoding options).
Would (i.e.) XMB menu play on standalone DVD players as well?

TIA

deank

22nd March 2010, 15:13

:) Thanks.

No, at the moment multiAVCHD does not produce a menu for the DVD output. One title = one VIDEO_TS = one disc (no menu). :) I need to read and learn a bit more about muxman's capabilities for menu-authoring and then I'll try to implement it in multiAVCHD.

You need to:

1) load the main-movie playlist
2) leave only one audio track and only one subtitle track (if needed)
3) go to 'TRANSCODE', select [Create SD-DVD title]
4) click and select the proper size
5) In settings tab select [HCenc 2-pass] as MPEG-2 encoder for better bitrate distribution.

***

Few important fixes in the latest update:

* Fixed: sometimes audio encoding of internal tracks (like FLAC or MP2/MP3) would not produce 48kHz .ac3, thus causing troubles in normal and SD-DVD output modes

* Fixed: SD-DVD: ETA time for 2nd pass HcENC encodings

* Added: SD-DVD: Video is encoded with I-frames @ each chapter mark (when using HCenc)

* Fixed: SD-DVD: the 'frame-part' of the chapter marks, used by [B]muxman is properly calculated both for PAL and NTSC modes (~90% success and muxman accepts the frames and not moving 0.3-0.5 seconds forward to the next I frame)

* Fixed: SD-DVD: 720x480 (4:3) and 720x576 (4:3) are now honored and proper aspect ratio is used in the final DVD

I guess there were few other things, but I can't remember right now.

Dean

daberti

22nd March 2010, 15:32

deank

22nd March 2010, 15:38

No, it doesn't matter what menu you'll select - it won't be generated anyway. There is a special button [SD-DVD] after you click [START]. It will produce DVD output. Once you follow the steps in my previous post, you'll see the title name colored in BLUE in media tab.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sddvd.jpg
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sddvd-title.jpg
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sddvd-output.jpg

daberti

22nd March 2010, 15:55

No, it doesn't matter what menu you'll select - it won't be generated anyway. There is a special button [SD-DVD] after you click [START]. It will produce DVD output. Once you follow the steps in my previous post, you'll see the title name colored in BLUE in media tab.

Got it.
Last thing: coming from a 1920x1080 at 23.976 would you recommend keeping whole stuff NTSC (same framerate and 720x480) or going 720x480 resize than applying uncrop 720x576 and 25fps (and eventually applying Pal speedup...) my DVD standalone is capable of converting NTSC to Pal but for legacy compatibility?

deank

22nd March 2010, 16:07

I was thinking about that yesterday... Still it is better to keep all in the original framerate... This of course means that you'll get 480p instead of 576p = less detail... If you're going to do it, use resize 720x576 + uncrop 720x576. The availability of the 576p depends on the TV system setting in AUTHOR tab. Make sure to set it to "PAL", otherwise the uncrop-box will show only 720x480.

I'll experiment with PAL 576 to see if there will be any motion blur after the encoding.

I'd suggest to do some tests first, check the quality and all and then go for the big Blu-ray titles :)

Dean

deank

22nd March 2010, 17:44

I did few tests with 23.976 -> 25.000 and as it seems the best option is the one implemented.

* Using dgpulldown to convert 23.976 to 25.000 causes blurring + one sharp frame each second

* Using ChangeFPS, causes slight stutter each 1 second

* Using 23.976->29.970 and then down to 25.000 causes constant blur

The implemented "ConvertFPS" seems to work much better than the above mentioned. There is a slight motion blur, but it is the best one can get.

Dean

daberti

22nd March 2010, 18:01

deank

22nd March 2010, 18:03

It is greyed out, because you're missing some of the tools. You didn't do a full-download and you don't have them. Download (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.0.exe)the complete package and install it in the same folder where your multiAVCHD is.

daberti

22nd March 2010, 18:45

Adub

22nd March 2010, 18:47

Ah great then! I'm glad that it works on 64-bit then. I'm going to have to fiddle with it some more I suppose then. My system seems to be having problems loading m2ts files that contain VC-1 video through Directshow source. It requires further investigation.

Thanks deank for your fantastic application!

deank

22nd March 2010, 18:47

@daberti: :) Yes, thanks... I emailed you back few hours ago about it :)

@Adub: There are some tweaks for VC-1 and win7... There were some posts in the thread of BD-Rebuilder. I'm glad you like multiAVCHD :)

Adub

22nd March 2010, 19:05

Yeah, I'm aware of the tweaks. I've tried all of them. Most of my video is working, just the VC-1/M2TS is not working.

Oh, and I have a bug to report.

While creating a SD-DVD from Inglorious Bastards Blu-ray, Multiavchd errors out saying that it had a problem with my ffdshow/avisynth/haali setup. I did as your log suggested and through the example script into Virtualdub. It runs just fine.

I am using 64-bit version of all of my programs, ffdshow, avisynth, haali and virtualdub.

[11:08:19] *** Initiating video encoding:

[11:08:19] *** Original : 1920x1080
[11:08:19] *** Crop : 0
[11:08:19] *** Resize : 720x480
[11:08:19] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[11:08:19] *** Sharpen : 0
[11:08:19] *** Bitrate : 2299 kbps
[11:08:19] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[11:08:19] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[11:08:19] *** Encoding : Two pass - content: [02:32:59]
[11:08:31] *** Speed : 18086.43 fps (elapsed: 00:00:12 - Realtime x 754.36)
[11:08:31] *** Transcoding failed!
[11:08:31] *** Check ffdshow/avisynth/haali (reinstall)!
[11:08:31] *** DEBUG: Try to play [C:\multiAVCHD\tools\20100322-110819-uncrop-running.avs] in MPC or other player, which supports AviSynth scripts and report the error to the author!

[11:08:31] Retrying to transcode with FFMS2!
[11:08:31] Stand-by for indexing...

[11:08:31] *** Initiating video encoding:

[11:08:31] *** Original : 1920x1080
[11:08:31] *** Crop : 0
[11:08:31] *** Resize : 720x480
[11:08:31] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[11:08:31] *** Sharpen : 0
[11:08:31] *** Bitrate : 2299 kbps
[11:08:31] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[11:08:31] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[11:08:31] *** Stand-by for indexing (ffms2)...

[11:08:31] *** Encoding : Two pass - content: [02:32:59]
[11:08:47] User requested stop!
[11:08:47] *** Speed : 14107.42 fps (elapsed: 00:00:15 - Realtime x 588.4)
[11:08:47] *** Transcoding failed!
[11:08:47] *** Check ffdshow/avisynth/haali (reinstall)!
[11:08:47] *** DEBUG: Try to play [C:\multiAVCHD\tools\20100322-110831-uncrop-running.avs] in MPC or other player, which supports AviSynth scripts and report the error to the author!

[11:08:47] Aborting...
[11:08:47] Aborting...

daberti

22nd March 2010, 19:49

@daberti: :) Yes, thanks... I emailed you back few hours ago about it :)

I've just received your email...uuuhhh some delay ..the hell with my provider :(

deank

22nd March 2010, 20:14

Oh, and I have a bug to report.

I am using 64-bit version of all of my programs, ffdshow, avisynth, haali and virtualdub.

You can't possibly have 64bit stable avisynth working. You need all 32bit versions of these tools (ffdshow, avisynth and haali), not 64bit. You can however use 64bit x264, but you'll need proper version placed in tools folder as x264_64.exe and set it in SETTINGS tab.

I'd suggest 1st to get all going with 32bit tools in win7 64bit environment, then experiment. Either way, speed gain is insignificant, and you already lost it for 4-5 months ahead :) trying to use the wrong versions.

Adub

22nd March 2010, 20:21

Wait, why can't I have 64-bit avisynth working? JoshyD's builds run just fine. I have 64-bit versions of everything that I need and the scripts load fine in Vdub.

Or am I misunderstanding your post? Are you saying that MultiAVCHD only supports the 32-bit version of Avisynth?

deank

22nd March 2010, 20:28

No... it doesn't care what version you have as long it is working. It is as simple as this: multiAVCHD needs directshow video-pin to open the video. Opening the .avs in vdmod doesn't prove anything. You need to be able to play it with regual player like MPC or WMP - i.e. a player which uses directshow and not its own filters.

And to put it simple again.... multiAVCHD needs avisynth to be able to parse and frame-serve:

Directshowsource("your_video_file.xxx")

That's about it. Nothing else. What codecs or operating system you have or you're using - it is up to you.

rendez2k

22nd March 2010, 23:04

Adub

23rd March 2010, 00:47

Okay, I've thrown in the towel and installed win7 32-bit. I've got a Blu-ray to SD-DVD transcode running right now with no problems so far. Thanks again for your hard work deank.

deank

23rd March 2010, 09:10

Great! So whats the re-author mode for (if its not a stupid question!)?

:) It is for re-authoring a blu-ray disc and keeping the menu... Read this post. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1361598#post1361598)

daberti

23rd March 2010, 09:50

@Deank

I'm doing some experiments...is it better to demux HD streams and give them to MultiAVCHD as mkv video and audio stream inside a remuxe .ts (whichever it is) or to give m2ts? I'm talking performancewise.

Then: I downloaded the full proggie per your advice yesterday in the afternoon. Yet autoupdate keeps telling me if I wish to update to 738+ . If I say yes then it downloads the update but after install and proggie restart it asks again for the SAME version. What's up?

Thanks

deank

23rd March 2010, 09:56

The less you pre-process the input, the better the chance that everything will be okay. So leave the mkv as mkv and the m2ts as m2ts :)

***

About the update... there must be something with my update servers. Try to start multiUPDATE.exe manually and check what will happen. There were few new things yesterday and today morning, too.

In the ABOUT tab you should see todays date:

Dean Kasabow
multiAVCHD_deanBG.com
23/03/2010
Sofia
Bulgaria

rendez2k

23rd March 2010, 11:44

deank

23rd March 2010, 11:49

All is okay at my side... You can manually download it and extract it in multiAVCHD folder. multiAVCHD.rar (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD.rar)

Ginsonic

23rd March 2010, 12:10

Then: I downloaded the full proggie per your advice yesterday in the afternoon. Yet autoupdate keeps telling me if I wish to update to 738+ . If I say yes then it downloads the update but after install and proggie restart it asks again for the SAME version. What's up?

Same here !

crl2007

23rd March 2010, 12:26

It works OK for me. No double or triple updates. Updated this morning and it didn't asked me again to update to 738+.

daberti

23rd March 2010, 12:30

deank

23rd March 2010, 13:58

Okay, I've thrown in the towel and installed win7 32-bit. I've got a Blu-ray to SD-DVD transcode running right now with no problems so far.

...will do as soon as my encoding finish.

It will be nice to get some feedback on your SD-DVD encodings once they're done. :)

Dean

p.s.

* A quick fix: SUP/PGS subtitles created for 576i/576p resolutions were in 480i/480p, causing them to display much higher than supposed to. It is okay now.
* Encoding preview will auto-close aprox. one minute before completion of the re-encoding to avoid a file-lock of the output video file.
* Few fixes when multiAVCHD fails to create some of the menu pages - at least it won't crash with RT error, but will continue

daberti

23rd March 2010, 16:04

It will be nice to get some feedback on your SD-DVD encodings once they're done. :)

Dean

Will be done ASAP :)

Ok. When I was previously talking about demuxing streams to mkv and AC3 and remuxing to.ts i was anticipating possible issues that has have just happen.
lets say 2012 has two audio tracks both DTS-MA .
MultiAVCHD tells nothing about respective language so we just can choose to encode both or we use MeGui's HDDVD/Bluray streams extractor (which uses eac3to) to know which one is our desired language.
I did, and it was the second audio track in DTS-MA.
I removed from MultiAVCHD the first DTS-MA track and...surprise...it encoded the wrong one.
I.e.: MultiAVCHD inverted the order of the audio streams.
I've double checked by means of extracting via the above mentioned tool...yet I wish to check it again...
BTW: SD-DVD single pass

deank

23rd March 2010, 16:18

To avoid further bug reports about something as simple as file-names...

multiAVCHD will now check all files and folders and paths and if a filename/path contains non-supported characters media will not be imported.

Supported symbols: 0123456789 a-z A-Z .!@#$%^&()_-=[]{} A-Z range includes only ANSI characters, so no ó or á for example and no cyrillic :( too like Деян :)

That is in build 739.

90% of 'tsMuxeR refused to process' error messages are caused by using non-ANSI characters in the file paths/names.

Dean

AJ500

23rd March 2010, 16:42

Yes, duration of elementary streams cannot be detected/calculated properly before they're muxed into a container.

Does this mean the camdump.264 file, that's created from the joined m2ts files, cannot be properly displayed in the preview window? I'd like to choose additional chapter points-not just the segment beginning points. Without a full preview of the joined files, I have to manually calculate the additional chapters. Or, get those times during playback of the finished title and re-do the compilation.

deank

23rd March 2010, 16:49

It is displayed, but the preview-time-stamps do not match the real position in the video. There is no way to overcome this setback, unless the file is muxed into a container like mkv or m2ts.

An easy thing to do is to do it yourself: load the .264 and the .ac3 files in tsmuxer_gui and create a m2ts file then use it in multiAVCHD. I see no other way... Of course it is possible to add auto-put-in-a-container :) but it will require as much HDD space as the original so you'll end up having 3x the size of the source: 1) the original, 2) camdump.264+ac3, 3) camdump.m2ts...

Dean

deank

23rd March 2010, 16:55

Will be done ASAP :)

Ok. When I was previously talking about demuxing streams to mkv and AC3 and remuxing to.ts i was anticipating possible issues that has have just happen.

MultiAVCHD tells nothing about respective language so

It definitely puts the language ID in the LID box in title properties.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_LIDS.jpg

If you import a M2TS file from a blu-ray disc it may show UND... You need to import the PLAYLIST (.mpls) file to get the correct language IDs.

deank

23rd March 2010, 17:08

Does this mean the camdump.264 file, that's created from the joined m2ts files, cannot be properly displayed in the preview window?

It is displayed, but the preview-time-stamps do not match the real position in the video.

...

Of course it is possible to add auto-put-in-a-container :) but...

I think I can add a prompt after camdump.264+ac3 files are created if user wants to go for .m2ts... Would that be of any help?

daberti

23rd March 2010, 17:50

It definitely puts the language ID in the LID box in title properties.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_LIDS.jpg

If you import a M2TS file from a blu-ray disc it may show UND... You need to import the PLAYLIST (.mpls) file to get the correct language IDs.

Got it. But I open file and not mpls even the "MeGui" way.
Just a nuance: 2012 has 126 mpls files! Removing one by one from compilation.........
Apart of this, the encoding has been done PERFECTLY!

deank

23rd March 2010, 17:53

:)

***

@AJ:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_cam1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_cam2.jpg

:)

AJ500

23rd March 2010, 17:53

Dean,
Thanks for your suggestion to use tsMuxeR. I tried it to mux the 264 & ac3 files. Loaded that file and also the camdump.txt file. I then put in additional chapters using the preview window. All is well. This is much easier than the options I used before.

Yes, anything you can do to make the joining process easier would be appreciated. Could there be a button/option to invoke tsMuxeR, mux the files, load the m2ts file, and replace the camdump in the media listbox? Or would that get messy?

deank

23rd March 2010, 17:55

It is done already.. Just update with multiUPDATE if not prompted.

:)

AJ500

23rd March 2010, 18:09

It is done already.. Just update with multiUPDATE if not prompted.

:)

Talks about AMAZING!! That's you!
THANKS! I'll download now.

deank

23rd March 2010, 18:25

:D

Got it. But I open file and not mpls even the "MeGui" way.
Just a nuance: 2012 has 126 mpls files! Removing one by one from compilation.........
Apart of this, the encoding has been done PERFECTLY!

I posted earlier today (or yesterday) that you can use the option in IMPORT box of AUTHOR tab: Do not import AVCHD/BD/DVD playlists if shorter than: **** seconds. Enter 3600 for example (for 1 hour duration) and multiAVCHD will skip all playlists shorter than 3600 seconds (60min/1hr). :)

Dean

p.s. @AJ500: Thanks again for your support!

daberti

23rd March 2010, 19:46

:D

I posted earlier today (or yesterday) that you can use the option in IMPORT box of AUTHOR tab: Do not import AVCHD/BD/DVD playlists if shorter than: **** seconds. Enter 3600 for example (for 1 hour duration) and multiAVCHD will skip all playlists shorter than 3600 seconds (60min/1hr). :)

Dean

p.s. @AJ500: Thanks again for your support!

You're right! Me dumb .(

flaviometal

23rd March 2010, 20:32

Hello Dean!

I have a problem: I'm trying to convert a mkv file that has 3 S_VOBSUB subtitles embedded on it, but multiAVHCD doesn't shows up the subs after encoding. What can I possibly doing wrong?

I've tried to extract the subs with MKVExtractGUI, but it only generates a sub file (without the IDX).

EDIT: in log file, MAVCHD says that the file have o subtitle track. Why?

[13:57:10] Initialising...
[13:57:11] Checking for new version...
[13:57:11] You have the latest build.
[13:57:11] Your multiAVCHD.exe was just updated!
[13:57:11] Consistency check finished!
[13:57:11] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[13:57:11] 1 year and 87 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[13:57:11] 263 people supported it with donations
[13:57:11] and you are the 1317706 one to launch the program...
[13:57:11] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[13:57:11] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04000733]
[14:34:11] Loading original chapters (E:\HIGH DEFINITION\test.mkv).
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:00:00.000]: 00 00 00.000
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:03:25.972]: 00 03 25.972
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:09:53.226]: 00 09 53.226
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:15:24.390]: 00 15 24.390
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:22:02.354]: 00 22 02.354
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:25:05.504]: 00 25 05.504
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:33:36.915]: 00 33 36.915
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:42:15.066]: 00 42 15.066
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:49:19.523]: 00 49 19.523
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:52:25.175]: 00 52 25.175
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [00:57:32.215]: 00 57 32.215
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:04:01.838]: 01 04 01.838
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:06:25.348]: 01 06 25.348
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:12:42.525]: 01 12 42.525
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:20:32.594]: 01 20 32.594
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:23:09.718]: 01 23 09.718
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:31:06.227]: 01 31 06.227
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:39:16.083]: 01 39 16.083
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:40:28.322]: 01 40 28.322
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:45:35.129]: 01 45 35.129
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:52:48.962]: 01 52 48.962
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [01:59:34.067]: 01 59 34.067
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [02:00:41.935]: 02 00 41.935
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [02:05:08.067]: 02 05 08.067
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [02:08:52.325]: 02 08 52.325
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [02:11:00.753]: 02 11 00.753
[14:34:11] Chapter name at [02:22:30.142]: 02 22 30.142
[14:34:12] Loading external subtitles: (eng) - test.mkv.chapters.eng.srt

[15:32:40] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[15:32:41] Destination [E:]: NTFS, 47306.31 MiB (46.198 GiB) free space
[15:32:41] Temp folder [c:]: NTFS, 20129.46 MiB (19.658 GiB) free space

[15:32:41] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 739)
[15:32:41] Selected output mode: AVCHD compatible player (DVD/BD-R disc)

[15:32:41] Processing one title...
[15:32:41] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[15:32:42] Processing (E:\HIGH DEFINITION\test.mkv)...
[15:32:42] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[15:32:42] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[15:32:42] *** Initiating video encoding:

[15:32:42] *** Original : 1280x720
[15:32:42] *** Crop : 0
[15:32:42] *** Resize : 1280x720 (No change)
[15:32:42] *** Uncrop to : 1280x720
[15:32:42] *** Sharpen : 0
[15:32:42] *** Bitrate : 2000 kbps
[15:32:42] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[15:32:42] *** Level : 4
[15:32:42] *** B-frames : 3
[15:32:42] *** Ref-frames: 4
[15:32:42] *** GOP size : 48 (keyframe min. each 4 frames)
[15:32:42] *** Quality : One pass (turbo)
[15:32:42] *** SAR : 1:1
[15:32:42] *** DAR : 1280x720
[15:32:42] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[15:32:42] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:05:22]
[15:36:30] *** Less than one minute to completion. Closing preview...
[15:37:29] *** Speed : 26.86 fps (elapsed: 00:04:47 - Realtime x 1.12)

[15:37:29] *** Transcoding successful!

[15:37:29] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:7).
[15:37:29] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1280x720, fps=23.976, ref=4
[15:37:29] Detected audio: ID#2:A_DTS (48000Hz 24bit 6ch) Language: und
[15:37:29] Attempting to convert A_DTS audio track #2...
[15:37:29] Encoding A_DTS to AC3...
[15:37:49] Parsing to NicAudio/aften (avisynth)...
[15:37:49] Extracting audio track #2 (mkvextract)...
[16:02:54] eac3to/nicAudio did not succeed!
[16:02:54] Trying to encode audio with ffmpeg...
[16:12:13] Audio encoded to AC3 successfully!
[16:12:13] Added audio: A_AC3, "c:\multiavchd\_temp\multitemp-20100323\test.mkv.t2.und.ac3", lang=und
[16:12:13] Title is trimmed: 00:01:36 - 00:05:22
[16:12:13] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[16:12:13] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.0 Resolution: 1280:720p Frame rate: 23.976
Change H264 level from 4 to 4.1
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 384Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Processed 7722 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 3 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-

chapters=00:00:00.000;00:03:25.972;00:09:53.226;00:15:24.390;00:22:02.354;00:25:05.504;00:33:36.915;00:42:15.066;00:49:19.523;00:52:25

.175;00:57:32.215;01:04:01.838;01:06:25.348;01:12:42.525;01:20:32.594;01:23:09.718;01:31:06.227;01:39:16.083;01:40:28.322;01:45:35.129

;01:52:48.962;01:59:34.067;02:00:41.935;02:05:08.067;02:08:52.325;02:11:00.753;02:22:30.142 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500 --

cut-start=96s --cut-end=322s
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "E:\HIGH DEFINITION\test.[1280x720-23.976].264", insertSEI, contSPS, lang=eng, level=4.1, fps=23.976
A_AC3, "c:\multiavchd\_temp\multitemp-20100323\test.mkv.t2.und.ac3", lang=und
===============================================================================
[16:12:15] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[16:12:17] Processing playlist...
[16:12:17] Title #1 added: "test"
[16:12:17] Verifying title...
[16:12:18] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[16:12:18] Preparing authoring information...

[16:12:18] Setting pop-up menu...
[16:12:20] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [1080p]...
[16:12:20] *** Completed!

[16:12:20] Preparing menu pages...
[16:12:20] Setting main menu for 1 titles...
[16:12:20] There is no menu. Playback will end after title #1.
[16:12:20] Playback will start with title #1 (test).
[16:12:20] Setting menu properties...
[16:12:20] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[16:12:20] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[16:12:20] Completed.
[16:12:24] Done!

[16:12:24] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[16:12:24] E:\AVCHD\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: AVCHD compatible player (DVD/BD-R disc)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. test [00:03:45]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 00:03:45
Output size : 69 MiB (0.068 GiB)

[16:12:24] E:\AVCHD folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[16:12:24] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[16:12:26] You may now remove temp folder (c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100323\).
[16:12:26] Your compilation contains 0hrs 3min 45sec of video material.

[16:12:26] multiAVCHD finished in 2384.507 seconds (00:39:44.506)!

[16:12:26] End of log.

deank

23rd March 2010, 20:40

Someone else posted about problems with S_VOBSUB subtitles. I'll need to check if I have such sample and will test it again.

Is the SUB file you got a text (frame-based like {xx}{yyy} text) or a binary one?

edit: I don't see any reference about subtitles in your log.

edit2:

[14:34:12] Loading external subtitles: (eng) - test.mkv.chapters.eng.srt
...
[15:32:40] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...

Did you really need 1 hour to click START or you did a LOT of changes to the imported file? :)

Fastbke170

23rd March 2010, 21:37

flaviometal

23rd March 2010, 22:17

Is the SUB file you got a text (frame-based like {xx}{yyy} text) or a binary one?

I've tried to open the sub file with notepad and now I can confirm: it's a binary one. The sub file seems to work in subrip.

edit: I don't see any reference about subtitles in your log.

Strange, cause the subs appears in MAVCHD, and I've opened the mkv file with mkvtoolnix and the subs are there.

Did you really need 1 hour to click START or you did a LOT of changes to the imported file?

This delay was caused by an MAVCHD error, and I was far away from my PC, so when I come back, just closed the error box and the encoding continued 'til the end.

I'm sending a sample to you (sended to you by PM). If you can try, I'll appreciate.

trino

24th March 2010, 00:02

Dean,
I solved one of my lingering problems, it turns out I had to unload/reload my ffdshow to make one of my errors go away. I was able to play the avisynth script to troubleshoot that. Anyway, now I get much much further than I did before at putting together a massive 1.5TB fat32 drive with 50 movies. (yeah!)

Unfortunately, I'm now getting some issue with x264.exe. I have two move that won't show a preview at all (which I need to pick the "poster" image to fit my needs), all I get is an error and a blank image. I notice the video type is V_MPEG-2. I can't even click on the black preview to play the movie (more on that later).
I just keep getting these crash after crash after crash dialogs...

What might be causing this issue? Do I need to update x264.exe? I got your last package on 3/16/2010 [multiAVCHD_4.0.exe] and have used the update ever since (of course).

I've attached log, too

Adub

24th March 2010, 02:34

It will be nice to get some feedback on your SD-DVD encodings once they're done. :)

Dean

Well, the first one completed it's video encoding successfully, but then eac3to failed on the audio encode. I don't know why however, and I wish I could see it's command line so that I can try it from a terminal and see what error it's getting.

It then proceeded to extract the audio track with tsmuxer, but was going very slowly ~1MB/3s. Then I accidentally kicked the power cord and killed the computer :eek:

So, I'm running it again, this time from the playlist import mode and using Quenc for a 1 pass to see if I can actually get it to complete.

I will report back.

Adub

24th March 2010, 06:59

Well, first try at conversion failed.

My steps:
1) Load BDMV folder
2) Delete all unnecessary playlists until I'm left with the main movie (Inglorious Bastards)
3) Click on title to edit settings.
4) Remove all audio except for main english audio track.
5) Click the "Transcode" button.
6) Set for SD-DVD output (via Quenc 1-pass) with DVD-5 as the output target size.
7) Set Output dir to a folder on my desktop
8) Start and select SD-DVD output.
9) For some reason, my entire video was demuxed instead of just loading straight from directshow, but whatever, processing continues.
10) Come back several hours later and find the following.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9156/multiavchddvderror.png (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/multiavchddvderror.png/)
Followed by this after clicking "ok".
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2140/multiavchddvderror2.png (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/multiavchddvderror2.png/)
MultiAVCHD then proceeds to close.

Project file: http://www.mediafire.com/?on12y2jzyy1
Log: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nizzbdzm1yo

Using latest version of MultiAVCHD with Win 7 32-bit.

gordan

24th March 2010, 08:07

Hi Dean,

I just moved to windows 7 and problems with multiavchd (v739) came as well:)

I get the following error: "(RT) Failure to copy file (D:\tmp\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00254.mpls) - Line 27639." when I try to create a PS3 AVCHD from one mkv file (there's nothing special about it).
This happens when I start multiavchd as Administrator (otherwise, I get issues much before) and the last log line is: "Failure to mux menu and to create playlist [00254.mpls]"
The destination PLAYLIST directory includes 00000.mpls. 00254 is created in the _TEMP directory.

After acknowledging the error, another window opens but is empty.

BTW, the .log file is not fully flushed so I could not copy from there.

Is this a bug or do you have any suggestions on what to do?

Thanks, G

deank

24th March 2010, 08:57

Dean,

Unfortunately, I'm now getting some issue with x264.exe. I have two move that won't show a preview at all (which I need to pick the "poster" image to fit my needs), all I get is an error and a blank image. I notice the video type is V_MPEG-2. I can't even click on the black preview...

Make sure to install the version of HAALI which I posted here (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17) (direct link (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/haali_MatroskaSplitter_11-01-2009.exe)). Uninstall the version you have, then install this one and during the install make sure to check both [x] MPEG-TS and [x] MPEG-PS. I can see in your screenshot: Title properties (). This should not be blank and should be a valid filename.

Well, the first one completed it's video encoding successfully, but then eac3to failed on the audio encode. I don't know why however, and I wish I could see it's command line so that I can try it from a terminal and see what error it's getting.

You could've found the log from eac3to either in the temp folder or in the source folder.

Well, first try at conversion failed.

My steps:
10) Come back several hours later and find the following.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9156/multiavchddvderror.png (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/multiavchddvderror.png/)

The error was caused by a trailing SPACE character in the title name [ING BASTERDS ]. I got the same error and now I know what causes it so it is fixed.

9) For some reason, my entire video was demuxed instead of just loading straight from directshow, but whatever, processing continues.

You simply can't process a playlist (mpls) via directshow. In case of branched playlists there is simply no other way but demuxing it completely. If the main movie is in one m2ts file then you can load the m2ts, not the playlist.

Hi Dean,

I get the following error: "(RT) Failure to copy file (D:\tmp\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00254.mpls) - Line 27639."

This is also fixed - it won't crash and will continue, but the error means that the title-list menu won't be available and probably the whole structure won't work properly. Untick [x] Add title-list menu in Author tab.

Dean

deank

24th March 2010, 09:12

Dean,
Any news regarding Samsung Players not Playing MultiAVCHD Compilations? I have a friend who works in a Local Store who tried 3 Players of various model numbers( I will try to Verify Models). Very Strange as I have not encountered this with any other Brand myself.

No and I don't know why they don't accept ver 4.0 output and work with ver 3.0. It will be nice to get some test results when using version 4.0 of multiAVCHD and NO menus (no pop-up, no main, no title-list, chapters/setup) - just bare compilation with 1 title.

deank

24th March 2010, 09:47

I've tried to open the sub file with notepad and now I can confirm: it's a binary one. The sub file seems to work in subrip.

I'm sending a sample to you (sended to you by PM). If you can try, I'll appreciate.

[10:44:02] Initialising...
[10:44:18] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 739)
[10:44:18] Selected output mode: AVCHD compatible player (DVD/BD-R disc)

[10:44:18] Processing one title...
[10:44:18] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[10:44:18] Processing (D:\Downloads\__TEST\sampleSvobsubs.mkv)...
[10:44:18] Detected frame reference count: 12 (max:7).
[10:44:18] Video is not AVCHD/BDMV compliant!
[10:44:18] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1280x720, fps=23.976, ref=12
[10:44:18] Detected subtitles: ID#3:S_HDMV/VOBSUB Language: eng
[10:44:18] Detected subtitles: ID#4:S_HDMV/VOBSUB Language: spa
[10:44:18] Detected subtitles: ID#5:S_HDMV/VOBSUB Language: por
[10:44:18] Detected audio: ID#2:A_DTS (48000Hz 24bit 6ch) Language: und
[10:44:18] Added audio: A_DTS, "D:\Downloads\__TEST\sampleSvobsubs.mkv", track=2, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
[10:44:18] AR of 16:9 will be set for this title.
[10:44:18] Extracting SRT/SSA/VOBSUB subtitle tracks.
[10:44:18] Plase wait - it may take a while!
[10:44:21] Converting to SRT/PGS...
[10:44:21] Converting D:\Downloads\__TEST\sampleSvobsubs.extr.003.eng.idx to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[10:44:22] *** Imported subpictures: 13/13
[10:44:22] Converting D:\Downloads\__TEST\sampleSvobsubs.extr.004.spa.idx to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[10:44:22] *** Imported subpictures: 13/13
[10:44:22] Converting D:\Downloads\__TEST\sampleSvobsubs.extr.005.por.idx to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[10:44:22] *** Imported subpictures: 13/13
[10:44:24] Conversion successful...
[10:44:24] Adding external subtitles (sampleSvobsubs.mkv.chapters.eng.srt) (eng)
[10:44:24] Adding external subtitles (sampleSvobsubs.extr.003.eng.sup) (eng)
[10:44:24] Adding external subtitles (sampleSvobsubs.extr.004.spa.sup) (spa)
[10:44:24] Adding external subtitles (sampleSvobsubs.extr.005.por.sup) (por)

[10:44:24] Reference frames count too high for level 4.1 (1280x720p)!
[10:44:24] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[10:44:24] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1280:720p Frame rate: 23.976
Change H264 level from 4.1 to 4.1
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Decoding DTS-HD stream (track 2): Bitrate: 1536Kbps core + MLP data.Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1 (DTS Master Audio)
Decoding PGS stream (track 3): Resolution: 1280:720 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 4): Resolution: 1280:720 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 5): Resolution: 1280:720 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 6): Resolution: 1280:720 Frame rate: 23.976
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Processed 1486 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 5 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500 --cut-end=300s
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\Downloads\__TEST\sampleSvobsubs.mkv", insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng, level=4.1, fps=23.976
A_DTS, "D:\Downloads\__TEST\sampleSvobsubs.mkv", track=2, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100324\srt-331826669.eng.sup", lang=eng, fps=23.976
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100324\sampleSvobsubs.extr.003.eng.sup",lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100324\sampleSvobsubs.extr.004.spa.sup",lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100324\sampleSvobsubs.extr.005.por.sup",lang=por
===============================================================================
[10:44:29] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[10:44:29] Processing playlist...
[10:44:29] Title #1 added: "sampleSvobsubs"
[10:44:29] Verifying title...
[10:44:32] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 4 subtitle tracks

[10:44:36] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[10:44:36] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_test\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: AVCHD compatible player (DVD/BD-R disc)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. sampleSvobsubs [00:01:01]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 00:01:01
Output size : 108 MiB (0.106 GiB)

There was a small typo error in multiAVCHD, that's why it wasn't working. Make sure to update with multiUDPATE and it will be okay.

daberti

24th March 2010, 12:13

Deank, I was wondering how to disable Trellis in 1pass and 2pass SD-DVD compilations.

deank

24th March 2010, 12:25

Well, at the moment there is no way to change the encoding parameters for MPEG-2 in any way. What effect will have disabling the trellis?

***

Few new things in the latest update, mostly about avisynth script support as input files:

* preview in [transcode] window should work better now with .avs files
* multiAVCHD supports audio from .avs scripts. It will add it as 1st internal audio track and later will encode it to ac3 on-the-fly

Avisynth script support gives you great freedom to create your own scripts and use them as input to create any output (hd-dvd/sd-dvd/avchd/blu-ray)...

[13:00:40] *** [AVS] Detecting script properties [sw.avs]...
[13:00:45] *** [AVS] Video: 640x288 @ 25.000fps, Duration: [00:02:40.039]
[13:00:46] Loading external audio: (eng) - sw.eng.ac3
[13:00:46] [TRANSCODE]: Title#01 4000 kbps, 640x288 -> 720x576

[13:01:13] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 739)
[13:01:13] Selected output mode: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc)

[13:01:13] Processing one title...
[13:01:14] Processing (D:\Downloads\_test\sw\sw.avs)...
[13:01:14] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[13:01:14] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[13:01:14] *** Initiating video encoding:

[13:01:14] *** Original : 640x288
[13:01:14] *** Crop : 0
[13:01:14] *** Resize : 720x480
[13:01:14] *** Uncrop to : 720x576
[13:01:14] *** Sharpen : 0
[13:01:14] *** Bitrate : 4000 kbps
[13:01:14] *** Frame rate: Original (25.000)
[13:01:14] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[13:01:14] *** Encoding : Two pass - content: [00:02:40] (MPEG-2 encoder: HCenc)
[13:02:20] *** Less than one minute to completion. Closing preview...
[13:02:56] *** Speed : 39.05 fps (elapsed: 00:01:42 - Realtime x 1.56)
[13:02:56] *** Transcoding successful!

[13:02:56] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 720x576, fps=25.000
[13:02:56] Display properties: 1024x576 (AR:1.78)
[13:02:56] Encoding avs audio to AC3...
[13:03:06] Avisynth audio successfully encoded!
[13:03:06] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (eng)...
[13:03:06] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[13:03:06] AR of 16:9 will be set for this title.

[13:03:06] Copying audio to source folder for re-use...
[13:03:06] Creating SD-DVD structure...
[13:03:06] Authoring DVD structure...
[13:03:07] SD-DVD muxing completed!

[13:03:07] SD-DVD title saved:
[13:03:07] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_mumu\[DVD]\sw

Compilation summary:
Format: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc) (mixed with DVD)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. 1 HD/SD-DVD titles
===============================================================================
Output size : 87 MiB (0.085 GiB)

claymic

24th March 2010, 14:26

Hi Dean
Do you know the "Moving Pictures" ?. Its a plugin for Media Portal (media center). This program can search for data about a film on the Internet. It's wonderful.
Maybe you can put him or anything like that in Multiavchd, so we have only write the name of the movie and the program automatically fetches the data from it on the Internet. Another request: It aims to provide a space on the menu where we could put a synopsis of the movie?
Hugs and thank you.
Clayton
P.S I am sorry for my bad English
Links http://moving-pictures.tv/wiki/Main_Page
http://code.google.com/p/moving-pictures/
http://www.team-mediaportal.com/screenshots/

rack04

24th March 2010, 14:31

Dean, why does multiAVCHD convert txt chapters stored in MKV to srt?

deank

24th March 2010, 14:34

Because I find it useful for some content (like timestamps from camcoders or songlists). User can remove the added file from title properties or disable [-] auto load external subtitles.

rack04

24th March 2010, 14:40

Because I find it useful for some content (like timestamps from camcoders or songlists). User can remove the added file from title properties or disable [-] auto load external subtitles.

I knew there was a good reason I just didn't understand. In my case I add raw h264 file then manually add external audio and chapter file. The external chapter file is converted to srt and I assume included in the compilation. Should the srt file be deleted after the compilation is complete?

deank

24th March 2010, 14:42

rack04

24th March 2010, 14:46

External .chap.eng.srt should be created only with videos which have chapters stored as meta info... It shouldn't happen with raw video files or when importing external chapter files (.txt). Are you sure that it converts the .txt to .srt?

Unfortunately I can't give you a 100% honest answer right now because I don't have any files accessible on my laptop. I'm "pretty" sure that it converts an external .txt chapter file (extracted from blu-ray using eac3to) to .srt because a .chap.eng.srt is always left behind after the compilation completes.

daberti

24th March 2010, 14:53

Well, at the moment there is no way to change the encoding parameters for MPEG-2 in any way. What effect will have disabling the trellis?

It would be a bunch faster I guess.

Anyway, with latest release I've got a failure to encode.
http://www.danieleberti.com/dan/Failure.jpg

Log:

http://www.danieleberti.com/dan/log.txt

Where is the problem?

Thanks

deank

24th March 2010, 14:58

daberti

24th March 2010, 15:26

It was fixed earlier today, just update with multiUPDATE. The problem is caused by a space character in the title-name [2012 ].

You can reuse the audio and video files and not reencode the whole thing again. Make sure to [alter detected properties] of the imported m2v file and set it as [x] (HD)DVD compliant.

Dean

I've already build 739 anyway I updated manually with multiUpdate.exe .
It shows 739 again yet it looks like having changed.

Should I wish to reencode from scratch would I have to set it HD-DVD compliant or just SD-DVD (as I'm doing a SD-DVD compilation)?

deank

24th March 2010, 15:35

Yes, the build is 739.
Mark it as [x] (HD)DVD compliant. The box is for both HD and SD DVDs. (the button is in title-properties [alter detected properties]).

You should have the audio auto-loaded... I don't know about the subtitles - you may have to add them manually. It won't reencode the video (only will reprocess the audio) and all will be done in less than 10mins.

deank

24th March 2010, 15:44

Hi Dean
Do you know the "Moving Pictures" ?. Its a plugin for Media Portal (media center). This program can search for data about a film on the Internet. It's wonderful.

Clayton, I have no idea how to use this application.

daberti

24th March 2010, 15:45

Yes, the build is 739.
Mark is as [x] (HD)DVD compliant. The box is for both HD and SD DVDs.

You should have the audio auto-loaded... I don't know about the subtitles - you may have to add them manually. It won't reencode the video (only will reprocess the audio) and all will be done in less than 10mins.

This if I don't wish to reencode.
Should I mark as (HD)DVD compliant even if I'd like to reencode from the beginning?

deank

24th March 2010, 15:47

Absolutely no. This option is for such cases only. When you have the compliant file already and want to skip the transcoding.

daberti

24th March 2010, 15:55

Absolutely no. This option is for such cases only. When you have the compliant file already and want to skip the transcoding.

Ok.
Reencoding right now.
More in a 6hours hence ;)

Thanks

deank

24th March 2010, 15:57

turbojet

24th March 2010, 17:26

Nice to see a tool that inputs BD and outputs DVD however I'm having all sorts of problems with it.

1. When a BD is inputted and all but one title is removed this shows up in the log:
[11:24:09] No valid information found! (00001.mpls)...

[11:24:09] No compatible folders/files processed...
It ends there.

2. When an m2ts is inputted this shows up in log:
[11:17:46] *** Transcoding failed!
[11:17:46] *** Check ffdshow/avisynth/haali (reinstall)!
[11:17:46] *** DEBUG: Try to play [c:\multiAVCHD\tools\20100324-111221-uncrop-running.avs] in MPC or other player, which supports AviSynth scripts and report the error to the author!

But all is installed and configured correctly, it goes on to say it will use ffms2 then this error pops up:
---------------------------
Visual Fortran run-time error
---------------------------
forrtl: severe (27): too many records in I/O statement, unit -5, file Internal Formatted Write

Image PC Routine Line Source
hcenc.exe 0058A82A Unknown Unknown Unknown

Stack trace terminated abnormally.

---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

Then it continues on to doing pass two, hcenc runs for a few minutes then the log says its complete however the only thing in temp directory is hcenc.ini and the only thing in the output directory is log, and typical BDMV structure.

Running windows 7 x64, admin user, uac disabled. Any ideas?

deank

24th March 2010, 17:33

Nice to see a tool that inputs BD and outputs DVD however I'm having all sorts of problems with it.
...
Running windows 7 x64, admin user, uac disabled. Any ideas?

No. I don't have any problems with 1) and 2).

About 1): if you post the log from scanning the playlists it will be easier. It is possible that the playlist contents' (m2ts) sizes are not detected.

turbojet

24th March 2010, 17:38

[11:36:24] *** 1. Title #1
[11:36:24] *** Scanning playlist (00001.mpls). Please wait...
[11:36:25] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[11:36:25] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 01:36:33.787] [00:00:02.000]
[11:36:26] *** Detected media file: [00001.m2ts, 01:36:33.791] (0 MiB)
[11:36:27] *** Detected media file: [00021.m2ts, 00:00:00.000] (0 MiB)
[11:36:27] *** Detected sub-path #: [ID#000, IN: 00:00:02.000] [IGS]
[11:36:27] *** Detected chapters #: 00:00:00.000;00:06:42.235;00:11:44.286;00:15:33.223;00:19:35.507;00:23:25.278;00:29:02.0 31;00:35:46.769;00:40:07.071;00:46:23.488;00:51:10.609;00:57:12.804;01:04:15.559;01:10:5 5.292;01:16:50.564;01:22:24.814;01:27:31.245;01:29:45.505;01:36:32.786
[11:36:27] *** Playlist duration : 01:36:33 (0 MiB)

You are right it's not getting the sizes. This is the main title there are 20 more titles on the BD that detect correct time but 0 MB in size.

deank

24th March 2010, 17:46

Is it a mounted image / read-only folder you're importing? It is a simple command in multiAVCHD which checks the file-size... not much I can do... But let me know. Also make sure to get the latest update (use multiUDPATE) and check again.

daberti

24th March 2010, 17:49

Why?!

Wasn't that the point of the last few messages? Since you already have it encoded there is no need to reencode it again... I guess it is too late now (unless you still have the encoded .m2v file).

The point was that I deleted all of the created files (m2v and audio) because when I've these kind of problems I prefer to go from scratch.
And I'm reencoding, thus NOT using the "Alter...." checkbox.

turbojet

24th March 2010, 18:05

Yep it's a mounted iso, any reason it writes to source instead of temp directory?

Once source is writable I get:
[12:02:39] *** Encoding : Two pass - content: [01:36:33] (MPEG-2 encoder: HCenc)
[12:02:48] *** Speed : 15118.85 fps (elapsed: 00:00:09 - Realtime x 630.58)
[12:02:48] *** Transcoding failed!
[12:02:48] *** Check ffdshow/avisynth/haali (reinstall)!
[12:02:48] *** DEBUG: Try to play [F:\TOOLS\multiAVCHD\tools\20100324-120239-uncrop-running.avs] in MPC or other player, which supports AviSynth scripts and report the error to the author!

[12:02:48] No compatible folders/files processed...

Still just ini in temp and BD structure in output directory.

deank

24th March 2010, 18:17

Before starting any encoding make sure you have any kind of preview in title-properties->transcode window. Otherwise makes no sense to try it.

About the output... Yes, it is written in the source folder... There was some reason some time ago... I'll see if I can change it. One important thing is that if it is in the temp folder and something fails after the encoding is completed - all files will be removed and sometimes the encode can be reused instead of wasting few more hours.

daberti

24th March 2010, 19:14

Beatnut

24th March 2010, 19:50

[19:44:23] Detected frame reference count: 8 (max:7).
[19:44:23] Video is not AVCHD/BDMV compliant!

i got this error AFTER starting creating a compilation, but when i loaded the MKV file in Multiavchd, it didnt show it was not Compliant.

How come.

deank

24th March 2010, 19:53

I guess this is a 1280x720 file... Max ref is 6... although most players will play it with 7 or 8...

deank

24th March 2010, 20:35

Build 740:

* AviSynth script import improvements
* AviSynth script audio support
* Improvements when working with read-only imported files/structures
* Option to keep reencoded files in source folder for re-use

Dean

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiavchd_settings.jpg

gordan

24th March 2010, 20:38

Hi Dean,

I still experience the error muxing the menu, except that multiavchd does not crash anymore (after updating to 740).

The error is now the following:

[20:32:32] Failure to mux menu and to create playlist [00254.mpls]
[20:32:32] Error muxing title-list menu page #!

Is this an error in my installation or the program itself?

Thanks, G

Hi Dean,

I just moved to windows 7 and problems with multiavchd (v739) came as well:)

I get the following error: "(RT) Failure to copy file (D:\tmp\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00254.mpls) - Line 27639." when I try to create a PS3 AVCHD from one mkv file (there's nothing special about it).
This happens when I start multiavchd as Administrator (otherwise, I get issues much before) and the last log line is: "Failure to mux menu and to create playlist [00254.mpls]"
The destination PLAYLIST directory includes 00000.mpls. 00254 is created in the _TEMP directory.

...

Thanks, G

laserfan

24th March 2010, 20:43

Decided to try the HD-to-DVD conversion, and my PC went to sleep during HCenc! Started-up OK when I woke it up again.... For my x264 encodings I stick this ahead of it in a .cmd file

powercfg -change -standby-timeout-ac 0

Might there be any way to incorporate that to mAVCHD? Another idea I have (which I will try when this test is done) is to wrap mAVCHD.exe in this thing called STESwrap:

http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/222308-vista-goes-sleep-while-burning-dvd.html#post1022013

deank

24th March 2010, 20:51

I didn't know such command existed :)

It will be executed once you click [START]... But in the next build-update... Too many today, already :(

No need to 'wrap' multiAVCHD with STES... I'll add the line to avoid sleep/hybernate modes.

daberti

24th March 2010, 21:03

@Deank

Compilation went ok :)

deank

24th March 2010, 21:06

Was there any serious undersize/oversize?

Adub

24th March 2010, 21:07

@laserfan
I had the same issue, but it's just because of the way your power settings are setup. If you don't care about having your computer got to sleep, simply set your computer sleep settings to "never" in the control panel.

But, since deank is adding support for it, it may all work out.

deank

24th March 2010, 21:11

Hi Dean,

The error is now the following:

[20:32:32] Failure to mux menu and to create playlist [00254.mpls]
[20:32:32] Error muxing title-list menu page #!

Was there an error about failing to encode the title-list menu?

1) Try to move Title list BG complexity slider in MENU tab to the far left and try again

2) Untick [x] Add title-list menu in AUTHOR tab and try again.

Dean

laserfan

24th March 2010, 21:19

If you don't care about having your computer got to sleep, simply set your computer sleep settings to "never" in the control panel.Yeah I knew that! ;)

Sleep mode always worked under XP, but W7 is way more aggressive, and I wonder if Bill Gates knows how many people he has driven to "Sleep? NEVER!" with this nonsense. It used to stay away if the CPU was busy! :devil:

Dean I shoulda added that the LAST line in my .cmd/bat files is then

powercfg -change -standby-timeout-ac 30

which restores Sleep after "normal" 30 minutes. (zero is Never and otherwise is minutes-til-sleep). If you do the same then you may want to give your users a way to input their preferred "time to sleep" to restore their PCs to!

laserfan

24th March 2010, 21:20

deank

24th March 2010, 21:31

I'll add the cancel-sleep + an option to restore the last power-scheme.

There is a '-query' option to report the state before changing it, so I'll try to interpret it and reuse it after multiAVCHD completes its work. :)

C:\Users\Dean Kasabow>powercfg -l|more

Existing Power Schemes (* Active)
-----------------------------------
Power Scheme GUID: 381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e (Balanced)
Power Scheme GUID: 8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c (High performance) *
Power Scheme GUID: a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a (Power saver)

-disk-timeout-ac 0
-standby-timeout-ac 0
-hibernate-timeout-ac 0

... should do it.

Dean

p.s. My "poor" laptop got no sleep since september 2008... no complaints, yet :)

laserfan

25th March 2010, 00:00

-disk-timeout-ac 0
-standby-timeout-ac 0
-hibernate-timeout-ac 0

... should do it.

Well, I will be glad to test!

I am only halfway through my HD-to-DVD process but am enjoying the "slide show" that you put-up in the side window! Hey who is the strawberry blond you're huddled-up with!?! OTOH at my age the yellow Lab is more my speed! ;)

Rudy A-Traxx

25th March 2010, 02:46

[...]If you import a M2TS file from a blu-ray disc it may show UND... You need to import the PLAYLIST (.mpls) file to get the correct language IDs.
That's right all my M2TS show UND but the same M2TS in TSMuxer show the right languages. Is there a possibility that MultiAVCHD do the same ? if would avoid me to open them first in Tsmuxer...

speedway76

25th March 2010, 05:08

Hi,Dean.
I'm a downloading latest build and i have problem.

gordan

25th March 2010, 07:09

Hi Dean

Was there an error about failing to encode the title-list menu?

1) Try to move Title list BG complexity slider in MENU tab to the far left and try again

2) Untick [x] Add title-list menu in AUTHOR tab and try again.

Dean

I'm using classic title list and I now set complexity to lowest but the error is the same. Here's the log, hope it helps.

[07:02:13] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 740)
[07:02:13] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)

[07:02:13] Processing one title...
[07:02:13] Existing D:\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[07:02:13] Output will be written to: D:\AVCHD-20100325-070213
[07:02:14] Processing (I:\Video\Series\Scrubs\scrubs.s08e10.720p-x264.mkv)...
[07:02:14] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:7).
[07:02:14] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1280x720, fps=23.976, ref=3
[07:02:14] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3 (48000Hz 6ch) Language: eng
[07:02:14] Added audio: A_AC3, "I:\Video\Series\Scrubs\scrubs.s08e10.720p-x264.mkv", track=2, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
[07:02:14] Converting TEXT subtitles to SUP/PGS...
[07:02:14] scrubs.s08e10.720p-x264.1.srt
[07:02:21] !!! BDSup2Sub reported: 1 warnings!
[07:02:21] *** 0 problems of all 1 are fixed!
[07:02:21] !!! Last imported subpicture: 452/452 at offset 0x
[07:02:21] *** Imported subpictures: 452/452 at offset 0x
[07:02:21] Conversion successful...
[07:02:21] Adding external subtitles (scrubs.s08e10.720p-x264.1.srt) (und)
[07:02:21] Converting TEXT subtitles to SUP/PGS...
[07:02:21] scrubs.s08e10.720p-x264.srt
[07:02:29] !!! BDSup2Sub reported: 1 warnings!
[07:02:29] *** 0 problems of all 1 are fixed!
[07:02:29] !!! Last imported subpicture: 452/452 at offset 0x
[07:02:29] *** Imported subpictures: 452/452 at offset 0x
[07:02:29] Conversion successful...
[07:02:29] Adding external subtitles (scrubs.s08e10.720p-x264.srt) (und)
[07:02:29] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[07:02:29] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@3.1 Resolution: 1280:720p Frame rate: 23.976
Change H264 level from 3.1 to 4.1
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 384Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding PGS stream (track 3): Resolution: 1280:720 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 4): Resolution: 1280:720 Frame rate: 23.976
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Processed 30509 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 10 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:01:46.000;00:03:32.000;00:05:18.000;00:07:04.000;00:08:50.000;00:10:36.000;00:12:22.000;00:14:08.000;00:15:54.000;00:17:40.000;00:19:26.000 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "I:\Video\Series\Scrubs\scrubs.s08e10.720p-x264.mkv", insertSEI, contSPS, track=1, lang=eng, level=4.1, fps=23.976
A_AC3, "I:\Video\Series\Scrubs\scrubs.s08e10.720p-x264.mkv", track=2, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100325\srt-57759104.und.sup", lang=und, fps=23.976
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100325\srt-57766343.und.sup", lang=und, fps=23.976
===============================================================================
[07:02:38] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[07:02:38] Processing playlist...
[07:02:38] Title #1 added: "scrubs s08e10"
[07:02:38] Verifying title...
[07:02:41] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 2 subtitle tracks

[07:02:41] Preparing authoring information...

[07:02:41] Setting pop-up menu...
[07:02:42] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [720p]...
[07:02:42] *** Completed!
[07:02:42] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[07:02:42] Creating title thumbnails for 1 titles (XMB)...
[07:02:42] Failed to extract title thumbnail for title #1.
[07:02:43] Using 12 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[07:02:43] *** Extracting 12 chapter thumbnails...
[07:02:45] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[07:02:45] Preparing menu pages...

[07:02:45] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[07:02:53] Failure to mux menu and to create playlist [00254.mpls]
[07:02:53] Error muxing title-list menu page #!
[07:02:53] Setting main menu for 1 titles...
[07:02:53] Playback will end after title #1.
[07:02:53] Playback will start with title #1 (scrubs s08e10).
[07:02:53] Setting menu properties...
[07:02:53] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[07:02:53] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[07:02:53] Completed.
[07:02:56] Setting FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[07:02:56] Done!

[07:02:56] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[07:02:56] D:\AVCHD-20100325-070213\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. scrubs s08e10 [00:21:12]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 00:21:12
Output size : 608 MiB (0.593 GiB)

[07:02:57] D:\AVCHD-20100325-070213 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[07:02:57] Copy D:\AVCHD-20100325-070213 to root of USB stick/disk or MemoryStick card or to X:\PRIVATE\ of SDHC/SD/MMC card and rename to AVCHD!
[07:02:58] You may now remove temp folder (D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100325\).
[07:02:58] Your compilation contains 0hrs 21min 12sec of video material.

[07:02:58] multiAVCHD finished in 44.133 seconds (00:00:44.133)!

[07:02:58] End of log.

[07:02:58] Cleaning up...
[07:02:58] Done!

[07:02:58] For technical support, bug reports and questions:

[07:02:58] http://multiforum.deanbg.com/
[07:02:58] http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/
[07:02:58] http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

G

deank

25th March 2010, 09:52

Hi,Dean.
I'm a downloading latest build and i have problem.

You can't use cyrillic letters in the path/file name.. that's what the box says.

daberti

25th March 2010, 10:27

Deank, what are the max allowed birate for mpeg2 video and AC3 and LPCM audio in DVD standard? Have you got links?

Thanks

deank

25th March 2010, 11:29

You can read more here (http://www.videohelp.com/dvd).

It says: max video bitrate 9800kbps, max audio bitrate 1536kbps.
Total bitrate including video, audio and subs can be max 10.08 Mbps (10080 kbps)

daberti

25th March 2010, 11:51

You can read more here (http://www.videohelp.com/dvd).

It says: max video bitrate 9800kbps, max audio bitrate 1536kbps.

Max audio bitrate is 6144kbps if using L-PCM

Said that maybe when choosing SD-DVD the Audio Conversion setting should reflect the bitrate limits automatically: i.e. 448kbps for AC3 ........

deank

25th March 2010, 12:09

Well, I will be glad to test!

I am only halfway through my HD-to-DVD process but am enjoying the "slide show" that you put-up in the side window! Hey who is the strawberry blond you're huddled-up with!?! OTOH at my age the yellow Lab is more my speed! ;)

This tv-room was designed by drpaulng :) may be he's there on the couch.

:) I did a small tweak to the preview, to use the unused part of the window:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_tr_pr3.jpg http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_tr_pr2.jpg

I added these don't-sleep commands... Still it is a bit tricky to restore what was before, but I'll work on it. The build will be updated a bit later.

Max audio bitrate is 6144kbps if using L-PCM

Said that maybe when choosing SD-DVD the Audio Conversion setting should reflect the bitrate limits automatically: i.e. 448kbps for AC3 ........

I didn't see that limit, still you can set 448 in "Non-HD audio bitrate" box before starting.

claymic

25th March 2010, 12:30

Dean
I have try to put my dvds in multiavchd again. I test 12 dvds, and the problem with the delay audio is no more a problem. Works 100% perfect now. Thanks man.
Clayton

deank

25th March 2010, 12:35

A message for those with constant problems encoding menus, motion/static, title-list menu...

I again decided to test multiAVCHD, so I installed it on my web-server computer...

It is an old Celeron, barely creeping... Using:

* ffdshow 1850 / Feb 6th, 2008
* haali 1.8.122.18 / 2007
* avisynth 2.5
* multiAVCHD 4.0.740

I used a small test clip: 50 seconds (1280x720), set it for transcoding and motion menu + motion thumbnail + chapter menu + setup menu + title list menu.

So... transcoding of 50seconds took 18 minutes:

[11:50:56] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:00:50]
[12:07:36] *** Close to completion - closing preview...
[12:08:54] *** Speed : 1.16 fps (elapsed: 00:17:58 - Realtime x 0.05)

pop-up (~20 seconds)

[12:10:28] Preparing authoring information...
[12:10:28] Creating NTSC top menu.
[12:10:28] Setting pop-up menu...
[12:10:41] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [1080p]...
[12:10:41] *** Completed!

Extracting 12 chapters took almost one minute:

[12:10:41] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[12:10:43] Creating title thumbnails for 1 titles (XMB)...
[12:11:01] Using 12 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[12:11:01] *** Extracting 12 chapter thumbnails...
[12:11:29] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

Motion menu - ONE PAGE took 41 minutes:

[12:11:29] Preparing menu pages...

[12:11:35] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/1] [Motion title thumbnail].
[12:52:14] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/1]: Chapter page [1/1].
[12:53:16] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/1]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[12:54:01] Menu authoring completed.

...but still completed successfully.

So as a total:

[12:54:07] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[12:55:06] Setting main menu for 1 titles...
[12:55:06] Playback will end after title #1.
[12:55:06] Setting menu properties...
[12:55:06] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[12:55:06] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[12:55:06] Completed.
[12:55:32] Done!

[12:55:32] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[12:55:32] I:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_T1\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: AVCHD compatible player (DVD/BD-R disc)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. test-mkv-file [00:00:52]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 00:00:52
Output size : 65 MiB (0.063 GiB)

[12:55:35] Your compilation contains 0hrs 0min 52sec of video material.

[12:55:35] multiAVCHD finished in 3881.812 seconds (01:04:41.811)!

It took 1 hour and 4 minutes to transcode a simple 50 seconds clip + motion menu... But it all worked.

***

So stop complaining that it is not working and find a way to fix your super-computers.

Dean

daberti

25th March 2010, 13:20

I didn't see that limit, still you can set 448 in "Non-HD audio bitrate" box before starting.

You're right if you're encoding from a non HD-Audio source.
But what if you're encoding to SD-DVD from a Bluray with HD audio? Will it encode to 640 AC3 (if HD audio to AC3 is choosen)? If so my above mentioned request would not be pointless.

laserfan

25th March 2010, 13:22

I added these don't-sleep commands... Still it is a bit tricky to restore what was before, but I'll work on it. The build will be updated a bit later.
It occurred to me later that the commands are probably W7-specific and I wonder how you were going to deal with that. As an alternative, maybe you should consider just a general capability within mAVCHD that has option: execute any user command at 'start'; execute any user command at 'done' and that would cover alot of needs maybe...

deank

25th March 2010, 13:37

It occurred to me later that the commands are probably W7-specific and I wonder how you were going to deal with that. As an alternative, maybe you should consider just a general capability within mAVCHD that has option: execute any user command at 'start'; execute any user command at 'done' and that would cover alot of needs maybe...

The command is available in XP and in Vista... But the pre/post commands is a good idea.

Btw something new comming later today:

There is a new 'transcoding' option now... You can chose to transcode your videos to Blu-ray MPEG-2 (and not H264/AVC). :)

[14:34:56] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[14:34:56] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[14:34:56] *** Initiating video encoding:

[14:34:56] *** Original : 1920x1080
[14:34:56] *** Crop : 0
[14:34:56] *** Resize : 1920x1080 (No change)
[14:34:56] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[14:34:56] *** Sharpen : 0
[14:34:56] *** Bitrate : 12000 kbps
[14:34:56] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[14:34:56] *** SAR : 1:1
[14:34:56] *** DAR : 1920x1080
[14:34:56] *** Profile : Blu-ray (MPEG-2)

[14:34:56] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:01:00] (MPEG-2 encoder: QuEnc)
[14:35:40] *** Close to completion - closing preview...
[14:37:07] *** Speed : 10.97 fps (elapsed: 00:02:11 - Realtime x 0.46)
[14:37:07] *** Transcoding successful!

[14:37:08] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 1920x1080, fps=23.976

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_tr_mpeg2-1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_tr_mpeg2-2.jpg

claymic

25th March 2010, 14:07

Dean, what is Blu-ray MPEG-2 ? is the better than H264/AVC ? i never try this reencode.
Thanks

deank

25th March 2010, 14:11

MPEG-2 is what your DVDs are encoded with. :)

Some say it is better, some say it is worse... Blu-ray standard supports AVC/H.264 MPEG-2 and VC-1. I just decided to add MPEG-2 and multiAVCHD will support 2 of 3 available encoding options.

Dean

claymic

25th March 2010, 14:23

Thanks Dean, i will try this later. I will make a avc and mpeg-2 for one movie, and put this in a projector ae4000, i will see the diferences between avc and mpeg-2.
Thanks Dean.
Clayton

rack04

25th March 2010, 14:37

External .chap.eng.srt should be created only with videos which have chapters stored as meta info... It shouldn't happen with raw video files or when importing external chapter files (.txt). Are you sure that it converts the .txt to .srt?

I stand corrected. External .chap.end.srt is NOT created when I use external chapter files.

deank

25th March 2010, 14:51

:) Thanks.

***

I just tested 720x480, 1280x720 and 1920x1080 with Blu-ray MPEG-2 profile... I'd say it looks marvelous :) ... My Playstation3 played the AVCHD structure just fine.

Titles marked for transcoding in MPEG-2 are colored with my favorite royal blue color in media tab.

:)

p.s. Also in royal-blue you'll see two lines in the LOG:

[16:28:25] Executing custom PRE-processing file: [C:\multiAVCHD\multiPRE.cmd]...

[16:41:15] Executing custom POST-processing file: [C:\multiAVCHD\multiPOST.cmd]...

@laserfan: In case multiAVCHD finds these files in its folder it will execute them - multiPRE.cmd after a compilation is started and multiPOST.cmd once all finishes.

It is possible to parse some arguments to these .cmd files, but I don't know what could be useful.

Dean

deank

25th March 2010, 16:07

Build 741:

* Added PRE/POST custom script (cmd) execution (multiPRE.cmd_ and multiPOST.cmd_ included in full download with instructions inside)
[multiPRE.cmd_]
@rem Rename this file to multiPRE.cmd
@rem It will be executed once you click [START]
@rem and start a compilation in multiAVCHD

[multiPOST.cmd_]
@rem Rename this file to multiPOST.cmd
@rem It will be executed once multiAVCHD
@rem completes its work (just before the "End of log." message).

* Changed transcode preview :)
* Added [Blu-ray MPEG-2] transcoding profile

I'll appreciate any comments/feedback about HD MPEG-2 transcoding.

Dean

gordan

25th March 2010, 16:19

Dean,

A message for those with constant problems encoding menus, motion/static, title-list menu...

for me, it was ffdshow that I did not install on the new machine. After using multiAVCHD for a year I forgot it is a prerequisite. It would be good to mention it on the installation.

G

claymic

25th March 2010, 17:28

So Dean, you like more mpeg2 then avc ? I will try this later, but for projector, every sigle detail is relevant, if the mpeg2 works better, i will let you know.
Thanks
Clayton

deank

25th March 2010, 17:49

To summarize multiAVCHD capabilities:

Input formats for video (files):

mov mkv mp4 wmv avi
ifo avs trp vob flv
mts m2t m2ts ts
mpg evo mpeg
m2v vc1 264
mpl mpls

Input formats for audio files and audio titles (files):

mp2 mp3 ac3
pcm ogg wav
flac mlp fla
lpcm dts dtshd
cue (playlist)
wpl (playlist)
m3u (playlist)

Input formats for subtitles (files):

srt sub sup
ass ssa idx

Input formats for chapters (files):

frame based
time based
Scenarist XML
embeded/internal chapters (playlists/files)

Input formats (folders):

BDMV (Blu-ray / AVCHD)
AVCHD (AVCHD)
VIDEO_TS (DVD)
HVDVD_TS (HD-DVD)
MPEG (for join mode) (folder containing only mpeg or mpg files)
M2TS (for join mode) (folder containing only m2ts or mts files)
JPEG (for picture slide-show) (folder+subfolders containing jpeg or jpg picture files)
BMP/PNG (for picture slide-show)
ANY FOLDER except these above - all compatible files will be loaded as video or audio titles

*******************

Output formats (authored structures):

SD_VIDEO - MPEG-2 for Viera/Panasonic SDHC (StdDef video)
AVCHD - AVC/H.264 - SDHC Viera/Panasonic BDP
AVCHD - AVC/H.264 & MPEG-2 - USB/SDHC/MemoryStick/CompactFlash/HDD (solid media / Playstation 3)
AVCHD - AVC/H.264 - DVD/BD-R (optical discs)
BDMV - AVC/H.264 - Blu-ray for BD-R discs
BDMV - MPEG-2 - Blu-ray for BD-R discs
HD-DVD - AVC/H.264 for 3xDVD compatible HD-DVD players
SD-DVD - MPEG-2 for standard DVD players

*****

Supported output formats for Audio Discs:
----------------------------------
AVCHD - AVC/H.264 - SDHC Viera/Panasonic BDP
AVCHD - AVC/H.264 & MPEG-2 - USB/SDHC/MemoryStick/CompactFlash/HDD (solid media / Playstation 3)
AVCHD - AVC/H.264 - DVD/BD-R (optical discs)
BDMV - AVC/H.264 - Blu-ray for BD-R discs

*****

Menu support:

Maximum number of titles: 252
Maximum number of hidden titles: 251
Maximum number of subtitles per title: 32
Maximum number of chapters per title: 96
Maximum number of audio tracks per title: 32
Welcome screen / Intro title: 1

Supported menu styles: 3 (XMB, SLIDE, CAROUSEL)
- XMB: 252 scrollable titles (vertical scroll)
- SLIDE: 252 scrollable titles (horizontal scroll)
- CAROUSEL: 252 scrollable titles (horizontal scroll)

Auxiliary menu support:
- TITLE-LIST menu (21 pages x 12 titles per page)
- POP-UP menu (available during playback of each title)

Supported user styles: any (using templates)
Custom menu templates: yes (3 included: Kids, Hi-Tech, Appleseed) (designed by drelin)

* Static menu (static or motion title thumbnail)
* Motion menu (static or motion title thumbnail)
* Pop-up menu
* Title-list menu (classic and thumbnail)
* Chapter selection menu (96 chapters in 8 pages x 12 chaps)
* Setup menu (6 audio + 5 subtitle track selection)

Menu not supported in:

SD_VIDEO - SDHC cards for Viera/Panasonic (StdDef video)
HD-DVD - DVD for 3xDVD compatible HD-DVD players
SD-DVD - DVD for standard DVD players
AVCHD - SDHC cards for Viera/Panasonic BDP

Other features:

* Projects: yes (save / load)
* Fast import of created compilations
* Re-author mode (fast mode without transcoding / remuxing)
* Re-author mode (full mode with transcoding, blanking features, adding/removing audio/subtitle streams)
* Direct Blu-ray Disc to Playstiton3 USB/HDD re-authoring without transcoding for HDMV titles
* Transcoding preview
* FF (freeware forever) :)

==============================

Dean

laserfan

25th March 2010, 19:22

Hi deank, thanks for the new version w/pre- post-cmds, I will try it soon.

Unfortunately my 1st attempt to make SD-DVD from BD was not successful, I found this Windows "app has crashed" dialog from last night's try:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: multiAVCHD.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 47ad49d2
Fault Module Name: KERNELBASE.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7600.16385
Fault Module Timestamp: 4a5bdbdf
Exception Code: 0eedfade
Exception Offset: 0000b727
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 5ab6
Additional Information 2: 5ab614d1c5f0822277be7b0d619c4271
Additional Information 3: 883d
Additional Information 4: 883d3f17589b343f935f5b8158c374c0

Before I closed this out, I capped the screen cuz I wasn't sure if mAVCHD had written to the log (which it did not afaict):

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/d27f873f644b326cfc25c901f605b7b76g.jpg

After closing, I noticed these in Task Manager:

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/8f2cd09c6302ffd3e8f331011f65e24e5g.jpg

Maybe the open mplayers were at fault? My CPU was still loaded to 100% after closing the mAVCHD dialog. I have 8Gb RAM 64-bit W7 FWIW. Also not sure where exactly the process failed--I did indeed get a good .m2v 720x480 re-coding, and HCenc's log shows it completed normally.

If there's an easy way to resume-and-mux let me know, else I do know how to re-mux using Muxman "manually".

EDIT: Hmm, not sure why my IMG are not showing...? Will keep trying. Ok should work now.

deank

25th March 2010, 19:29

Such thing may happen with overloaded machine... To avoid such things you can [close] the preview of the transcoding or disable [x] Real-time transcode preview in SETTINGS tab. It is a problem with this mplayer app... It hangs and locks the output m2v file. That's why I added the auto-close of the preview but when size-estimation is wrong it is of no help. (I saw both screenshots).

You can reuse the .m2v file + the audio file (if present... if not, you need to create it yourself). Load the m2v file and in title-properties click [alter detected properties] and mark it as (HD)DVD compliant. It won't be transcoded again, but make sure to place it outside the temp folder.

Sadly in such cases pull-down is probably is not applied to the m2v file and you may need to do it manually with dgpulldown.

I'll try to tweak mplayer's parameters/calls... I sometimes get the same error, but not too often to take deep look into it.

Of course you can just use muxman or another app with the ready m2v file, too.

laserfan

25th March 2010, 19:49

To avoid such things you can [close] the preview of the transcoding or disable [x] Real-time transcode preview in SETTINGS tab.I will try another (shorter!) project with the new version, and fiddle with these which I did not know about. :)

Adub

25th March 2010, 19:53

For those of you wondering about the new MPEG-2 output for BDMV, it's not "better". Technically, MPEG2 is a less advanced codec than MPEG4/AVC. It was introduced back in the days of DVD and is technically "old".

Deank added support for MPEG2 output via BDMV because it is technically part of the spec, he already had MPEG2 encoders for SD-DVD output, and there is no problem in being thorough.

Just because you can use MPEG2 doesn't mean you will get magically "better" output. In fact, chances are you will get slightly less quality than using MPEG4. However, MPEG2 may provide better compatibility across several devices.

Deank, thanks again for coding this awesome application. I should be able to continue to test it when I get home tonight, and I will report back about my efforts to create SD-DVD output from a Blu-ray. Please feel free to add/comment on/correct any of my above statements.

deank

25th March 2010, 20:08

And make sure to update to 741! Just to be safe use multiUPDATE.exe... I added some code to kill mplayer while doing excessive tries to generate the preview :)

About MPEG-2: Adub is right, although in some cases it may produce better/comparable results to AVC... Still it is good to have more choices. :)

Adub

25th March 2010, 20:12

Of course! ;)

pixiesoft

25th March 2010, 21:08

Sorry about the first post guys. You can delete it as I am a dumb ass and didn't see this thread!!!

I am using MultiAVCHD to make a compilation BD-R of recorded WWII footage and have followed the online tutorial but I cannot get it to play on my Blu Ray Player.

Here are my steps.

1. Start MultiAVCHD
2. Click on AVCDH/BDMV/DVD Folders Tab and add 10 .mkv files.
3. Author Tab has Stricter AVCDH Folder Format Ticked (Also tried unticked).
4. Everything else left as default.
5. Click Start
6. Let it build the folders BDMV, CERTIFICATE, HDAVCTN & files details.txt, multiAVCHD.log, multiAVCHD.mpf.
7. Burn all folders and files with IMGBURN
8. Put BD-R in BD Player and looks like it is going to play but then just stops with a blank screen.

Have I missed something here? My BD Player is a Panason DMP-BD35

Adub

25th March 2010, 21:16

...
6. Let it build the folders BDMV, CERTIFICATE, HDAVCTN & files details.txt, multiAVCHD.log, multiAVCHD.mpf.
7. Burn all folders and files with IMGBURN
...

Hmmm...This may be your problem. You don't need all of these folders to be Blu-ray compatible. In fact, you only need BDMV and CERTIFICATE.

Try burning JUST those two folders, and see what happens. The player may be choking on these extra files (some do, some don't).

olivier06

25th March 2010, 21:34

Hi !
I've encoutered a problem with chapters.
I have some mkv that already have a chapter track : uncropmkv (if necessary) + tsmuxer (or multiavchd) + imgburn (2.5) and it works : i can access to the chapters with >>|
Some of my mkvs have no default chapter track.
I try bluray in tsmuxer with insert or custom chapters (in bluray tab) + AVCHD-patcher : the dvd plays but stop when i use >>|

Have you got any idea to create an available chapter track and use in multiAVCHD ?
thanks

flaviometal

25th March 2010, 22:01

Dean, sorry the noob question... but I'm trying to create a project with 4 MKV files, and I want just one XMB menu, with 4 selectable thumbnails on it, without the play, chapters, setup or title list buttons on it, but I can't find a way! How I'm suppose to do that? What options I'm missing?

deank

25th March 2010, 22:50

Sorry about the first post guys.

Here are my steps.
8. Put BD-R in BD Player and looks like it is going to play but then just stops with a blank screen.

My BD Player is a Panason DMP-BD35

Try to use [AVCHD strict] output mode after you click [START].

Dean, sorry the noob question...

How I'm suppose to do that?

By creating ONLY TITLE-LIST menu.

Untick [x] Create top menu and select only [x] Add title list menu (or the classic one) (AUTHOR tab)
Dean

deank

25th March 2010, 23:07

Hi !
Have you got any idea to create an available chapter track and use in multiAVCHD ?

Click the title name to open title-properties. There you can create any number of chapters you wish.

***

Did multiAVCHD become a rocket-scientist grade program or what?!

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_fcuk.jpg

I guess that will be the in the next update, prior to the language-translation support.

Capsbackup

25th March 2010, 23:11

Did multiAVCHD become a rocket-scientist grade program or what?!

Well yes!, and now I am among the elite!! :p If I was looking for a new career, I could include multiAVCHD to my resume! :cool:

deank

25th March 2010, 23:26

:) I'll forward my email box to you (with CC: ) (evil grin)

***

Now seriously:... would anyone post an updated tutorial how to use multiAVCHD?

I know I have to do it, but I postpone the task since last June (2009).

laserfan

26th March 2010, 00:08

In case multiAVCHD finds these files in its folder it will execute them - multiPRE.cmd after a compilation is started and multiPOST.cmd once all finishes.

It is possible to parse some arguments to these .cmd files, but I don't know what could be useful.
Many thanks for these! My multiPRE.cmd is
powercfg -change -standby-timeout-ac 0
powercfg -change -monitor-timeout-ac 1

my multiPOST.cmd
powercfg -change -standby-timeout-ac 30
powercfg -change -monitor-timeout-ac 10

...back to normal! :)

laserfan

26th March 2010, 00:13

I tried another HD-to-DVD conversion and it worked, except I have to try again as it missed the subs (maybe needed the hardsubbing selection?)

Also, HOW does one "select a title for processing" in this way? Regardless of what I do, after I click SD DVD I always see a dialog "No titles set for DVD processing! Process all (x) as DVD?". How to "set" for processing?

Further, if I click "No" to the above, mAVCHD seems to go ahead and process anyway and I have to abort if it is processing all titles when I wanted just one. :confused:

deank

26th March 2010, 00:39

Transcoding of a title depends on what you set in Title properties -> [TRANSCODE]

If you didn't make a choice, once you click [START] and select authoring format you're given the last chance to select what you want as a final result. For example - you loaded a Blu-ray playlist and click SD-DVD - then multiAVCHD will auto set transcode options and will reencode the playlist. Always make your mind before you click something in the output-selection window (after you click [START]). I can't add 10 "Are you sure?" prompts.

In case you wish to transcode - always 'visit' the [transcode] window. There is a button in MEDIA tab.

Supported subtitles for SD-DVD are external + internal (mkv). If you import BD/HD-DVD/AVCHD structure you need to import subtitles manually as external tracks.

Adub

26th March 2010, 00:42

@deank,
I'm already working on a guide for some of multiAVCHD's functionality (mostly HD->DVD) right now.

However, over time, I will continue to push out guides for extended multiAVCHD use.

Is there something in particular that you would like me to cover?

deank

26th March 2010, 00:55

Nothing in particular... but mostly:

* Read button labels
* Hover with the mouse over an option and read what it is supposed to do.

:)

I already posted about all the things I can think of few posts up. multiAVCHD does a lot of things so it is not possible to cover it in one guide anyway.

Thank you for taking time to create some useful tutorials... ATM there are NONE that I read so far that make any sense or are of any help.

Adub

26th March 2010, 00:57

Oh, it's my pleasure. (just need to find some time in the next few days. This weekend should be good.)

If I can get my screencasting software setup properly again, I'll even toss in a few screencasts while I'm at it.

claymic

26th March 2010, 01:35

Hi dean. I enconde a movie in mpeg2 for blu-ray and a avc. The movie was The lord of the rings 1. The image in avc was much better than in mpeg. I have a projector panasonic pt ae4000, its a excelente projector, and i test this file in 112" (AR 2.40). The avc file was very best than mpeg.
If you need help with language-translation (english x portuguese-Brazil), i can help.
Thanks
Clayton

flaviometal

26th March 2010, 03:01

By creating ONLY TITLE-LIST menu.

Untick [x] Create top menu and select only [x] Add title list menu (or the classic one) (AUTHOR tab)
Dean

Thanks for the reply, dean, but it doesn't work. If I untick this options, it will create only a title list menu. I want the XMB menu, but without the buttons (and with the selectable thumbs).

If I can remember well, in earlier versions (3.0) this was possible.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3817/menuye.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/i/menuye.jpg/)

laserfan

26th March 2010, 03:04

In case you wish to transcode - always 'visit' the [transcode] window.
I see. Yes, that is part of what I've been missing.

Supported subtitles for SD-DVD are external + internal (mkv). If you import BD/HD-DVD/AVCHD structure you need to import subtitles manually as external tracks.Apparently also one needs to convert subtitles (to 720x480p/29.97/etc) also before attempting to use, at least, it's not working and I'm ending-up with (for this short 5 min cartoon) a single VOB file and zero byte VIDEO_TS.IFO and no other files.

[20:54:03] Creating SD-DVD structure...
[20:54:03] Converting subtitles to DVD format...
[20:54:03] Converting D:\multiAVCHD Temp\multiTEMP-20100325\00002 - 4 - Subtitle (PGS), English, 99 captions.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[20:54:03] *** Imported subpictures: 99/99 at offset 0x00
[20:54:03] Applying pulldown...
[20:54:08] Authoring DVD structure...
[20:54:11] Cannot detect file size: (E:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD-20100325-203941\[DVD]\PRESTO\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO) (RS:0)
[20:54:11] SD-DVD muxing failed!
[20:54:11] SD-DVD muxing completed!

Will try it again without subs tomorrow...

Adub

26th March 2010, 04:11

setarip_old

26th March 2010, 05:42

@Adub

Hi!What would you recommend for a user to do when converting to from HD to SD-DVD when the main movie is split up over multiple files?
(ex: 01.m2ts and 02.m2ts contain the main movie)You could use "tsMuxeR" to first join the 2 .m2ts files...

Adub

26th March 2010, 06:31

Yeah, I thought about that, but I wondered if there was a way to do it purely in multiAVCHD. The reason is that I'm writing up a tutorial on encoding Blu-ray material to DVD and I want the reader to be able to handle pretty much any content through the main program.

If there is not an easy way, then oh well.

In addition, I know that this splitting happens a lot with HD-DVD's, which I'm not sure if tsmuxer can handle. I do know that multiAVCHD handles HD-DVD's so I was wondering if it was possible to automatically join main movie files.

Edit: Okay, well another attempt at converting Inglorious Bastards Blu-ray to DVD has failed. Here are the logs.

[20:09:11] Initialising...
[20:09:11] Checking for new version...
[20:09:11] You have the latest build.
[20:09:11] Consistency check finished!
[20:09:11] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[20:09:11] 1 year and 89 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[20:09:11] 263 people supported it with donations
[20:09:11] and you are the 1335472 one to launch the program...
[20:09:11] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[20:09:11] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04000733]

[20:49:04] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[20:49:05] Destination [C:]: NTFS, 101109.08 MiB (98.739 GiB) free space
[20:49:05] Temp folder [c:]: NTFS, 101109.04 MiB (98.739 GiB) free space

[20:49:05] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 741)
[20:49:05] Selected output mode: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc)

[20:49:05] Processing one title...
[20:49:05] Processing (D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts)...
[20:49:05] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[20:49:05] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[20:49:05] *** Initiating video encoding:

[20:49:05] *** Original : 1920x1080
[20:49:05] *** Crop : 0
[20:49:05] *** Resize : 720x480
[20:49:05] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[20:49:05] *** Sharpen : 0
[20:49:05] *** Bitrate : 3096 kbps
[20:49:05] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[20:49:05] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[20:49:05] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [02:32:59] (MPEG-2 encoder: QuEnc)
[22:46:58] *** Speed : 31.11 fps (elapsed: 01:57:53 - Realtime x 1.3)
[22:46:58] *** Transcoding successful!

[22:46:58] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 720x480, fps=23.976
[22:46:58] Display properties: 853x480 (AR:1.78)
[22:46:58] DTS-HRA, DTS-MA will not be reencoded.
[22:46:58] Encoding dts audio to AC3...
[22:47:11] Retrying...
[22:47:21] eac3to refused to convert audio!
[22:47:21] Trying to demux audio...

eac3to v3.16
command line: "C:\multiAVCHD\tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts" 3: "c:\multiavchd\_temp\multitemp-20100325\00010.m2ts.t2.ac3" -resampleTo48000 -384
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 5 subtitle tracks, 2:33:00, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 34 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
4: DTS, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz
5: DTS, French, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48khz
6: Subtitle (PGS), English
7: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
8: Subtitle (PGS), French
9: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
10: Subtitle (PGS), French
[a03] The ArcSoft and Sonic decoders don't seem to work, will use libav instead.
[a03] The libav DTS decoder doesn't decode the full DTS-HD information. <WARNING>
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Extracting DTS core...
[a03] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a03] Remapping channels...
[a03] Resampling to 48khz...
[a03] SSRC doesn't like these resampling parameters. <ERROR>
[a03] You can switch to r8brain instead by using the "-r8brain" option.
Aborted at file position 1048576. <ERROR>

Tsmuxer is now running, and going nuts. The image below is just a sample, but imagine it scrolling past and super high speed.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7476/tsmuxer.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/tsmuxer.jpg/)

deank

26th March 2010, 08:45

deank,
Quick question. Does the output "TV System" under the General section of the Author tab have any affect when dealing with HD to SD-DVD conversions?

Edit: Question number 2!: What would you recommend for a user to do when converting to from HD to SD-DVD when the main movie is split up over multiple files?
(ex: 01.m2ts and 02.m2ts contain the main movie)

Should I load up the sources using the "AVCHD / BDMV / DVD folders" import, or is there an even easier way of doing it without having to remove all of the unnecessary playlists after import?

1) TV system setting defines the framerate and the resolution for the transcoding. With PAL you'll get 720x576@25fps and with NTSC you'll get 720x480@23.976.

2) You can load the playlist (.mpls file) for the movie in multiAVCHD just like you do it in tsMuxeR.

Dean

pixiesoft

26th March 2010, 10:21

daberti

26th March 2010, 11:12

Deank, i keep on having an eac3to error....

[18.08.03] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 740)
[18.08.03] Selected output mode: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc)

[18.08.03] Processing one title...
[18.08.03] Existing I:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[18.08.03] Output will be written to: I:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD\AVCHD-20100325-180803
[18.08.04] Processing PLAYLIST (full mode) (split/join) (I:\BluRay\Il Gladiatore\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00002.mpls)...
[18.08.04] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[18.08.04] M2TS stream split set at 45000MiB...
[18.08.04] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[18.08.04] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[18.08.04] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[18.08.04] Only this video track will be used!
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00135.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00146.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00137.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00149.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00138.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00151.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00140.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00150.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00139.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00154.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00145.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00155.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00132.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00148.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00141.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00157.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00136.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00156.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00142.m2ts
[18.08.04] Detected media file: 00158.m2ts
[18.08.05] Detected media file: 00143.m2ts
[18.08.05] Detected media file: 00159.m2ts
[18.08.05] Detected media file: 00144.m2ts
[18.08.05] Detected media file: 00152.m2ts
[18.08.05] Detected media file: 00147.m2ts
[18.08.05] Detected media file: 00153.m2ts
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#000: 00135.m2ts, Duration: [00:17:13.782], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:17:25.433]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#001: 00146.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:35.702], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:47.353]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#002: 00137.m2ts, Duration: [00:13:52.248], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:14:03.898]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#003: 00149.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:29.362], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:41.013]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#004: 00138.m2ts, Duration: [00:20:27.559], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:20:39.210]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#005: 00151.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:35.285], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:46.935]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#006: 00140.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:27.944], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:39.595]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#007: 00150.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:31.406], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:43.057]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#008: 00139.m2ts, Duration: [00:12:14.024], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:12:25.675]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#009: 00154.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:35.076], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:46.727]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#010: 00145.m2ts, Duration: [00:10:31.464], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:10:43.114]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#011: 00155.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:29.863], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:41.513]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#012: 00132.m2ts, Duration: [00:15:51.408], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:16:03.059]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#013: 00148.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:45.879], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:57.529]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#014: 00141.m2ts, Duration: [00:04:27.976], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:04:39.626]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#015: 00157.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:37.245], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:48.896]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#016: 00136.m2ts, Duration: [00:12:30.916], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:12:42.567]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#017: 00156.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:54.554], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:01:06.205]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#018: 00142.m2ts, Duration: [00:04:01.658], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:04:13.308]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#019: 00158.m2ts, Duration: [00:03:14.986], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:03:26.637]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#020: 00143.m2ts, Duration: [00:09:13.261], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:09:24.911]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#021: 00159.m2ts, Duration: [00:00:32.240], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:00:43.891]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#022: 00144.m2ts, Duration: [00:05:44.344], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:05:55.994]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#023: 00152.m2ts, Duration: [00:02:23.351], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:02:35.002]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#024: 00147.m2ts, Duration: [00:09:34.073], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:09:45.724]
[18.08.05] Detected main PI#025: 00153.m2ts, Duration: [00:07:03.131], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 00:07:14.781]
[18.08.05] Using audio: A_DTS (ID#4354 / language: ita / delay: 0)
[18.08.05] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[18.18.02] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[18.18.02] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[18.18.02] *** Initiating video encoding:

[18.18.02] *** Original : 1920x1080
[18.18.02] *** Crop : 0
[18.18.02] *** Resize : 720x480
[18.18.02] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[18.18.02] *** Sharpen : 0
[18.18.02] *** Bitrate : 6000 kbps
[18.18.02] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[18.18.02] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[18.18.02] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [02:34:58] (MPEG-2 encoder: QuEnc)
[23.07.14] *** Speed : 12.85 fps (elapsed: 04:49:11 - Realtime x 0.54)
[23.07.14] *** Transcoding successful!

[23.07.15] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 720x480, fps=23.976
[23.07.15] Display properties: 853x480 (AR:1.78)
[23.07.15] Encoding DTS audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[23.07.27] Retrying...
[23.07.38] eac3to refused to convert audio!
[23.07.38] Trying to demux audio...
[23.16.14] Demux failed!
[23.16.14] Second attempt to demux...
[23.27.15] Encoding to AC3 (second try)...
[23.40.18] Encoding succeeded! Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[23.40.18] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[23.40.18] Copying audio to source folder for re-use...
[23.40.26] Creating SD-DVD structure...
[23.40.26] Applying pulldown...
[23.52.49] Authoring DVD structure...
[00.08.37] SD-DVD muxing completed!

[00.08.37] SD-DVD title saved:
[00.08.37] I:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD\AVCHD-20100325-180803\[DVD]\Il Gladiatore

[00.08.37] Compilation contains 1 (HD)DVD titles and no AVCHD/Blu-ray titles!

[00.08.37] Preparing menu pages...
[00.08.38] Setting main menu for 0 titles...
[00.08.38] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[00.08.42] Done!

DTS Audio decrypting is done via Arcsoft libraries BTW.

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