multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[Adub]

Currently, only one audio and sub source are supported. Deank hinted that he will be working on expanding their support in the future.

As to multiple selections, what's wrong with just using the remove button on the once you don't want to keep?

[turbojet]

Say BD input has 50 titles, you only want to keep one. Currently you have to hit remove 49 times.

[Adub]

Or once and hold the "Enter" key.

Edit:

Okay, I've narrowed down the problem eac3to problem, and it appears to be with the "resampleTo48000" command. Once it finds clipping, eac3to just deadlocks, and sits there idly. I've reproduced this outside of multiAVCHD, so I'll let the author of eac3to know about it.

[deank]

Internal subs from BD sources work now in 742 but I noticed only one was kept while there were 3 selected, I also notice this with audio. Any chance of removing this limitation?

Also is there any chance of multiple selection (shift/ctrl + click) for media pane and audio/subs panes?

I'll add up-to 32 internal subtitles later today. Audio is another story and I'll need to think about it.

No, there is no ctrl/shit multi-selection option in the GUI designer I'm using for multiAVCHD. A lot of things are not available.

Currently, only one audio and sub source are supported. Deank hinted that he will be working on expanding their support in the future.

As to multiple selections, what's wrong with just using the remove button on the once you don't want to keep?

Say BD input has 50 titles, you only want to keep one. Currently you have to hit remove 49 times.

You can set the option in AUTHOR/Import: Do not import DVD tiltes and AVCHD/BD playlists if shorter than: [3600] seconds to skip all short features/trailers/warnings/etc.

[deank]

Here we go:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_DVDsubs.jpg

multiAVCHD now supports up to 32 subtitle tracks for SD-DVD output mode.

Few things you need to know when using subtitles:

* External subtitles are processed first and placed before the internal ones in the subtitle order. It means that if you add 32 external subtitles you'll get none of the internal ones.

* When using subtitles and 1-pass encoding, never set bitrate to the maximum of 9800. Using a lot of subtitle streams (more than 2) may cause overflows during the muxing phase and will cause all to fail.

* It is always better to process a Blu-ray playlist instead of its movie-m2ts file. This way you can use cut-start/cut-end and you'll see the language IDs of the audio/subtitle tracks.

More than one audio track support will come later this week if I find time for it.

Dean

p.s. You'll get all this in 742+ in few mins.

p.s.2 I forgot to mention that 32 subtitle tracks are not available with MKV, MP4, WMV and FLV fles, but only with blu-ray/avchd playlists, m2ts/mts, ts, mpeg/mpg files, DVD playlists, and elementary stream files: m2v, vc1 and 264.

[deank]

More than one audio track support will come later this week if I find time for it.

Sorry about that, guys, but it seems that later-this-week=later-today, so there will be another update this afternoon, since the support of max 8 (per DVD standard) audio tracks is ready :)

[deank]

Audio and subtitle functions are completely rewritten for SD-DVD output with Blu-ray/AVCHD, m2ts/mts, etc input, so:

* No more weird errors with eac3to, trying wrong tracks

* AC3, DTS, DTS Master/High-resolution audio, TrueHD, MP2/MPA, LPCM/WAV audio supported as internal audio for SD-DVD (plus AC3, DTS, LPCM/WAV, MP2/MPA, MP3 as external)

* Core extraction for internal HD audio tracks will be automatically performed (for Blu-ray/AVCHD playlsits)

* No audio conversion will be performed if the following criteria is met:
- audio is AC3
- bitrate is less or equal to the Non-HD audio bitrate value but not higher than 448kbps
- sampling rate is 48kHz

In such cases audio will be added as is (original).

* ffmpeg will be used as a backup route in case eac3to fails for some reason (like missing DTS decoders)

That's it... I hope I didn't brake anything in the other modules :) Please give it a try and let me know.

And a reminder again: too high video bitrates with too many audio/subtitle tracks may cause muxman to fail muxing the final DVD folder. In such cases at the error prompt to review muxman.job file, remove all unnecessary -s and -a lines.

With this update, multiAVCHD should support full SD-DVD (1 video, 8 audio tracks and 32 subtitle tracks plus chapters). The only thing left is the menu, but it is not a priority at the moment.

@Adub: I'll greatly appreciate if you re-try with that source you had eac3to failures with HD audio.

Dean

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Here is a log of a direct import (no changes in title propertes) of Ghost Rider main movie playlist with only thing set CUT-END to 300 seconds:

[19:45:00] *** Scanning playlist (00065.mpls). Please wait...
[19:45:00] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[19:45:00] *** Detected main-path : [00:00:11.650]
[19:45:03] *** Detected media file: [00066.m2ts, 02:03:25.395] (31502 MiB)
[19:45:03] *** Playitem size exceeds split point of 4000 MiB (set in Author tab).
[19:45:03] *** Playlist marked for full processing mode. (split/join)
[19:45:03] *** Detected media file: [00087.m2ts, 00:00:00.000] (9 MiB)
[19:45:03] *** Detected sub-path #: [ID#000, IN: 00:00:11.650] [IGS]
[19:45:04] *** Detected chapters #: 00:00:00.000;00:09:21.394;...
[19:45:04] *** Playlist duration : 02:03:25 (31511 MiB)

[19:47:07] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 742)
[19:47:07] Selected output mode: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc)

[19:47:07] Processing one title...
[19:47:07] Processing PLAYLIST (full mode) (split/join) (I:\GHOST_RIDER\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00065.mpls)...
[19:47:07] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[19:47:07] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[19:47:07] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
[19:47:08] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[19:47:08] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[19:47:08] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[19:47:08] Only this video track will be used!
[19:47:08] Detected media file: 00066.m2ts
[19:47:08] Detected main PI#000: 00066.m2ts, Duration: [02:03:25.398], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 02:03:37.048]
[19:47:08] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4352 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[19:47:08] Using audio: A_LPCM (ID#4353 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[19:47:08] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4354 / language: hun / delay: 0)
[19:47:08] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4355 / language: pol / delay: 0)
[19:47:08] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4356 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[19:47:08] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4357 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[19:47:08] Using subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[19:47:08] Using subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: bul
[19:47:08] Using subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: hrv
[19:47:08] Using subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: hun
[19:47:08] Using subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: pol
[19:47:08] Using subtitles: ID#4613:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ron
[19:47:08] Using subtitles: ID#4614:S_HDMV/PGS Language: slv
[19:47:08] Using subtitles: ID#4615:S_HDMV/PGS Language: tur
[19:47:08] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[19:47:55] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[19:47:55] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[19:47:55] *** Initiating video encoding:

[19:47:55] *** Original : 1920x1080
[19:47:55] *** Crop : 0
[19:47:55] *** Resize : 720x480
[19:47:55] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[19:47:55] *** Sharpen : 0
[19:47:55] *** Bitrate : 1779 kbps
[19:47:55] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[19:47:55] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[19:47:55] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:05:00] (MPEG-2 encoder: QuEnc)
[19:54:29] *** Speed : 18.28 fps (elapsed: 00:06:33 - Realtime x 0.76)
[19:54:29] *** Transcoding successful!

[19:54:30] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 720x480, fps=23.976
[19:54:30] Display properties: 853x480 (AR:1.78)
[19:54:30] Detected subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[19:54:30] Detected subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: bul
[19:54:30] Detected subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: hrv
[19:54:30] Detected subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: hun
[19:54:30] Detected subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: pol
[19:54:30] Detected subtitles: ID#4613:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ron
[19:54:30] Detected subtitles: ID#4614:S_HDMV/PGS Language: slv
[19:54:30] Detected subtitles: ID#4615:S_HDMV/PGS Language: tur
[19:54:30] Total of 1 tracks found in this file.
[19:54:30] AR of 16:9 will be set for this title.
[19:54:30] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
[19:54:30] No audio tracks found!
[19:54:30] Creating SD-DVD structure...
[19:54:34] Demuxing 8 subtitle and 6 audio tracks...
[19:55:46] Converting subtitles to DVD format...
[19:55:46] Converting D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4608.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[19:55:50] *** Imported subpictures: 32/32
[19:55:50] Completed!
[19:55:50] Converting D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4609.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[19:55:50] *** Imported subpictures: 34/34
[19:55:50] Completed!
[19:55:50] Converting D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4610.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[19:55:51] *** Imported subpictures: 33/33
[19:55:51] Completed!
[19:55:51] Converting D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4611.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[19:55:51] *** Imported subpictures: 32/32
[19:55:51] Completed!
[19:55:51] Converting D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4612.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[19:55:53] *** Imported subpictures: 33/33
[19:55:53] Completed!
[19:55:53] Converting D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4613.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[19:55:53] *** Imported subpictures: 35/35
[19:55:53] Completed!
[19:55:53] Converting D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4614.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[19:55:54] *** Imported subpictures: 33/33
[19:55:54] Completed!
[19:55:54] Converting D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4615.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[19:55:55] *** Imported subpictures: 32/32
[19:55:55] Completed!
[19:55:55] Processing 6 audio tracks...
[19:56:50] Audio processing completed!
[19:56:50] Applying pulldown...
[19:56:51] Authoring DVD structure (muxman)...
[19:56:51] Title contains: 6 audio tracks and 8 subtitle tracks
[19:57:01] SD-DVD muxing completed!

[I]Too bad it is too late to name multiAVCHD with another name :)

[Emulgator]

Awesome !!!
If I only had enough time to test all this...
Many thanks, Dean.

[deank]

:) I tested as much as I can with the limited sources I have. More tests = more bugs :) so don't test it! :p

And thanks for the cheer-up and your comments about multiAVCHD @ other forums/sites!

[Capsbackup]

Too bad it is too late to name multiAVCHD with another name

It's getting longer, just like your programs capabilities, but multiAVCHD/DVD/ANY-VIDEO. :p
Excellent work!
You've become the "multi-talented" all-in-one "multi-media" video programmer!
A big :thanks: :)

[deank]

Thanks, Caps! Posts like the last one and this one (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1299925#post1299925) (of yours) kept me around, no matter what. It takes few 10x to melt down a cruel programmer's heart (very-evil-grin) :p

Dean

[turbojet]

Thanks for the quick update of the multiple audio and subtitles. Also for the tip about the 'importing less than X seconds' option.

[Adub]

@Adub: I'll greatly appreciate if you re-try with that source you had eac3to failures with HD audio.


Roger. However, I don't think it is entirely your programs fault that I was having problems (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1387004#post1387004) earlier. But I'll test and report back on my results as you have requested.

Edit:
HOLY MOLY! That was the fastest conversion I have ever seen! I edited to 100 frames (0 to 100) and transcoded. And BAM! DVD is created just dandy!

Well, almost. Apparently there was a problem with the subtitle conversion:
The funny thing is, I do have java installed. I can run the BDSup2Sub GUI just fine.
[20:49:36] Initialising...
[20:49:36] Checking for new version...
[20:49:36] You have the latest build.
[20:49:36] [28/03/2010] build 742 (latest is: 742) - Added Blu-ray playlist/m2ts/mts/ts internal subtitle support for SD-DVD output. Max DVD bitrate set to 9800. Added TOP-ALIGN uncrop option in Crop T/L listbox of transcode window.
[20:49:36] Your multiAVCHD.exe was just updated!
[20:49:36] Consistency check finished!
[20:49:36] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[20:49:36] 1 year and 93 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[20:49:36] 264 people supported it with donations
[20:49:36] and you are the 1366147 one to launch the program...
[20:49:36] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!


[20:49:36] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04000733]

[20:51:35] MAKER/Equipment ID: BLU-RAY DISC, Publisher: [Deluxe Digital Studios]

[20:51:36] *** 1. ING BASTERDS
[20:51:36] *** Scanning playlist (00000.mpls). Please wait...
[20:51:36] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[20:51:36] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 02:32:59.628] [00:00:11.650]
[20:51:39] *** Detected media file: [00010.m2ts, 02:32:59.626] (35695 MiB)
[20:51:39] *** Playitem size exceeds split point of 4000 MiB (set in Author tab).
[20:51:39] *** Playlist marked for full processing mode. (split/join)
[20:51:39] *** Detected chapters #: 00:00:00.000;00:01:50.610;00:07:06.384;00:21:20.821;00:24:12.826;00:28:15.902;00:30:18.942;00:37:57.108;00:41:47.922;00:48:28.405;00:53:53.563;01:00:50.438;01:04:05.341;01:09:24.702;01:12:17.166;01:19:25.927;01:32:54.777;01:37:02.233;01:43:51.475;01:45:38.040;01:50:30.623;01:57:35.089;02:03:38.452;02:10:30.072;02:16:40.859;02:23:10.748;02:25:47.280;02:29:30.961;02:32:59.378
[20:51:39] *** Playlist duration : 02:32:59 (35695 MiB)

....blah blah blah....

[20:54:46] *** Playlist skipped - too short!
[20:54:46] Added 1 AVCHD compatible folder(s).

[20:58:18] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[20:58:19] Destination [C:]: NTFS, 93780.95 MiB (91.583 GiB) free space
[20:58:19] Temp folder [c:]: NTFS, 93780.95 MiB (91.583 GiB) free space

[20:58:19] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 742)
[20:58:19] Selected output mode: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc)

[20:58:19] Processing one title...
[20:58:20] Processing PLAYLIST (full mode) (split/join) (D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls)...
[20:58:20] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[20:58:20] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[20:58:20] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:01:40
[20:58:20] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[20:58:20] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[20:58:20] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[20:58:20] Only this video track will be used!
[20:58:20] Detected media file: 00010.m2ts
[20:58:20] Detected main PI#000: 00010.m2ts, Duration: [02:32:59.628], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 02:33:11.279]
[20:58:20] Using audio: A_DTS (ID#4352 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[20:58:20] Using subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[20:58:20] Using subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[20:58:20] Using subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: fra
[20:58:21] Using subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[20:58:21] Using subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: fra
[20:58:21] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[20:58:24] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[20:58:24] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[20:58:24] *** Initiating video encoding:

[20:58:24] *** Original : 1920x1080
[20:58:24] *** Crop : 0
[20:58:24] *** Resize : 720x480
[20:58:24] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[20:58:24] *** Sharpen : 0
[20:58:24] *** Bitrate : 3464 kbps
[20:58:24] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[20:58:24] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[20:58:24] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:01:40] (MPEG-2 encoder: QuEnc)
[20:59:26] *** Speed : 39.04 fps (elapsed: 00:01:01 - Realtime x 1.63)
[20:59:26] *** Transcoding successful!

[20:59:26] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 720x480, fps=23.976
[20:59:26] Display properties: 853x480 (AR:1.78)
[20:59:26] Detected subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[20:59:26] Detected subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[20:59:26] Detected subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: fra
[20:59:26] Detected subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[20:59:26] Detected subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: fra
[20:59:26] Total of 1 tracks found in this file.
[20:59:26] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:01:40
[20:59:26] No audio tracks found!
[20:59:26] Creating SD-DVD structure...
[20:59:28] Demuxing 5 subtitle and 1 audio tracks...
[20:59:31] Converting subtitles to DVD format...
[20:59:31] Converting c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4608.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[20:59:32] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[20:59:32] !!! Error converting subtitles! (java?)
[20:59:32] Conversion failed!
[20:59:32] Converting c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4609.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[20:59:32] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[20:59:32] !!! Error converting subtitles! (java?)
[20:59:32] Conversion failed!
[20:59:32] Converting c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4610.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[20:59:33] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[20:59:33] !!! Error converting subtitles! (java?)
[20:59:33] Conversion failed!
[20:59:33] Converting c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4611.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[20:59:33] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[20:59:33] !!! Error converting subtitles! (java?)
[20:59:33] Conversion failed!
[20:59:33] Converting c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\pgsdemux001\00000.track_4612.sup to SUP (java:BDsup2sub)...
[20:59:33] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[20:59:33] !!! Error converting subtitles! (java?)
[20:59:33] Conversion failed!
[20:59:33] Processing 1 audio tracks...
[20:59:38] Audio processing completed!
[20:59:38] Applying pulldown...
[20:59:38] Authoring DVD structure (muxman)...
[20:59:38] Title contains: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks
[20:59:39] SD-DVD muxing completed!

[20:59:39] SD-DVD title saved:
[20:59:39] C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_INGTEST10\[DVD]\ING BASTERDS

[20:59:39] Compilation contains 1 (HD)DVD titles and no AVCHD/Blu-ray titles!

[20:59:39] Setting pop-up menu...
[20:59:39] *** Completed!

[20:59:39] Preparing menu pages...
[20:59:39] Setting main menu for 0 titles...
[20:59:39] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[20:59:48] Done!

Compilation summary:
Format: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc) (mixed with DVD)
Name : INGTEST10
===============================================================================
1. 1 HD/SD-DVD titles
===============================================================================
Output size : 47 MiB (0.046 GiB)

[20:59:48] C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_INGTEST10 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[20:59:48] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!

[20:59:48] Compilation contains HD-DVD/SD-DVD titles placed in [HD-DVD]/[DVD] folder.
[20:59:48] Burn each HD-DVD/SD-DVD title folder contents (both HVDVD_TS and VIDEO_TS for HD-DVD) to a separate DVD disc.

[20:59:49] You may now remove temp folder (c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\).

[20:59:49] multiAVCHD finished in 89.623 seconds (00:01:29.622)!

[20:59:49] End of log.

[Capsbackup]

deank, just tried a test using the latest build 742 with 11 .TS files of Planet Earth, for BD-25, with these settings: choosing motion menu and motion title thumbnail, inserting my backround video and audio, XMB Menu, skip welcome screen. Also, checked apply in/out fade for menu loop when using BG as is.
I notice on playback that the motion menu fades in and out and the menu audio plays, the main thumbnail button is playing, but there is no looping of the menu. From start, the menu plays for approx. 25-28 seconds but then goes to a black screen as does the main button thumbnail that was displaying motion. The audio, which is 1:37 long and repeats itself at 47 seconds, seems to continue and plays properly. The other 10 button thumbnails are also still visible at this time.
Should the motion menu continue/restart after it finishes its first loop? Maybe not seamlessly, but should it begin again and continue to loop until a selection is made?
I know this may sound funny, but I will admit to admiring this cool looking motion menu without selecting a button, just viewing the menu! :)

[deank]

Roger. However, I don't think it is entirely your programs fault that I was having problems (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1387004#post1387004) earlier. But I'll test and report back on my results as you have requested.

Edit:
HOLY MOLY! That was the fastest conversion I have ever seen! I edited to 100 frames (0 to 100) and transcoded. And BAM! DVD is created just dandy!

Well, almost. Apparently there was a problem with the subtitle conversion:

The error is caused by the CUT-END option and is not really an error. It is just that probably there are not any subtitles the first 100 seconds, or the interval is too short for tsMuxeR to decode a complete epoch. I'm usually using 300 seconds as a cut-end when I'm testing. I bet these errors won't show when you normally process your Blu-ray title. :)

deank, just tried a test using the latest build 742 with 11 .TS files of Planet Earth, for BD-25, with these settings: choosing motion menu and motion title thumbnail, inserting my backround video and audio, XMB Menu, skip welcome screen. Also, checked apply in/out fade for menu loop when using BG as is.

At the moment, motion background and title-thumb are restricted to 777 NTFS frames (~32.32 seconds). What you see is caused by the audio, which should be 32 seconds, too, but in your case it is much longer. The loop should happen after audio is out, then it should start again. Isn't it? :rolleyes:

//

Few small fixes in the latest build:

* Bitrate estimation for SD-DVD will take into account the 1st 8 audio tracks (was set to 1, causing wrong calculation when using more tracks)
* Clicking the donate or multiAVCHD buttons will open the webpage with your default browser and not IE
* Some error prompts are replaced with message box with single button (OK), not like it was until now (YES)/(NO)
* Subtitle processing for SD-DVD will skip demuxed SUP files if too small/broken
* Some other minor changes

[daberti]

Audio and subtitle functions are completely rewritten for SD-DVD output with Blu-ray/AVCHD, m2ts/mts, etc input, so:

* No more weird errors with eac3to, trying wrong tracks..........

I've encoded (1pass) Black Hawk Down bluray to SD-DVD.
I've choosen the LPCM audio track. On settings it is ticked the "LPCM->AC3" option.
Following the projected filesize based upon all above I had to set 6350 as video bitrate to make it fit into a DVD9.
At the end of encoding I had a 6685MB size instead.

Not sure if this is a bug, though.

Log....

[19.28.45] Initialising...
[19.28.45] Checking for new version...
[19.28.47] You have the latest build.
[19.28.47] [28/03/2010] build 742 (latest is: 742) - Added Blu-ray playlist/m2ts/mts/ts internal subtitle support for SD-DVD output. Max DVD bitrate set to 9800. Added TOP-ALIGN uncrop option in Crop T/L listbox of transcode window.
[19.28.47] Consistency check finished!
[19.28.47] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[19.28.47] 1 year and 93 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[19.28.47] 264 people supported it with donations
[19.28.47] and you are the 1363341 one to launch the program...
[19.28.47] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!


[19.28.47] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04000733]

[19.29.09] MAKER/Equipment ID: BLU-RAY DISC, Publisher: []

[19.29.09] *** 1. Black Hawk Down [main movie ita]
[19.29.09] *** Scanning playlist (00000.mpls). Please wait...
[19.29.10] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[19.29.10] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 02:24:19.650] [00:10:00.000]
[19.29.13] *** Detected media file: [00000.m2ts, 02:24:19.650] (33819 MiB)
[19.29.13] *** Detected chapters #: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000;00:10:00.000;00:15:00.000;00:20:00.000;00:25:00.000;00:30:00.000;00:35:00.000;00:40:00.000;00:45:00.000;00:50:00.000;00:55:00.000;01:00:00.000;01:05:00.000;01:10:00.000;01:15:00.000;01:20:00.000;01:25:00.000;01:30:00.000;01:35:00.000;01:40:00.000;01:45:00.000;01:50:00.000;01:55:00.000;02:00:00.000;02:05:00.000;02:10:00.000;02:15:00.000;02:20:00.000
[19.29.13] *** Playlist duration : 02:24:19 (33819 MiB)

[19.29.13] Added 1 AVCHD compatible folder(s).

[19.37.05] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[19.37.18] Destination [I:]: NTFS, 246900.66 MiB (241.114 GiB) free space
[19.37.18] Temp folder [C:]: NTFS, 51617.67 MiB (50.408 GiB) free space

[19.37.18] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 742)
[19.37.18] Selected output mode: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc)

[19.37.18] Processing one title...
[19.37.18] Existing I:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[19.37.18] Output will be written to: I:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD\AVCHD-20100329-193718
[19.37.19] Processing PLAYLIST (full mode) (split/join) (I:\BluRay\Black Hawk Down\Black Hawk Down [main movie ita]\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls)...
[19.37.19] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[19.37.19] M2TS stream split set at 45000MiB...
[19.37.19] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[19.37.19] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[19.37.19] Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
[19.37.19] Only this video track will be used!
[19.37.19] Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
[19.37.19] Detected main PI#000: 00000.m2ts, Duration: [02:24:19.650], [PTS: 00:10:00.000 / 02:34:19.650]
[19.37.19] Using audio: A_LPCM (ID#4353 / language: ita / delay: 0)
[19.37.19] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[19.49.59] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[19.49.59] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[19.49.59] *** Initiating video encoding:

[19.49.59] *** Original : 1920x1080
[19.49.59] *** Crop : 0
[19.49.59] *** Resize : 720x480
[19.49.59] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[19.49.59] *** Sharpen : 0
[19.49.59] *** Bitrate : 6350 kbps
[19.49.59] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[19.49.59] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[19.49.59] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [02:24:19] (MPEG-2 encoder: QuEnc)
[22.47.26] *** Speed : 19.5 fps (elapsed: 02:57:27 - Realtime x 0.81)
[22.47.26] *** Transcoding successful!

[22.47.27] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 720x480, fps=23.976
[22.47.27] Display properties: 853x480 (AR:1.78)
[22.47.27] Total of 1 tracks found in this file.
[22.47.27] No audio tracks found!
[22.47.27] Creating SD-DVD structure...
[22.47.33] Applying pulldown...
[22.59.34] Authoring DVD structure (muxman)...
[22.59.34] Title contains: 0 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks
[23.13.34] SD-DVD muxing completed!

[23.13.34] SD-DVD title saved:
[23.13.34] I:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD\AVCHD-20100329-193718\[DVD]\Black Hawk Down [main movie ita]

[23.13.35] Compilation contains 1 (HD)DVD titles and no AVCHD/Blu-ray titles!


[23.13.35] Preparing menu pages...
[23.13.36] Setting main menu for 0 titles...
[23.13.36] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[23.13.41] Done!

Compilation summary:
Format: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc) (mixed with DVD)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. 1 HD/SD-DVD titles
===============================================================================
Output size : 6685 MiB (6.528 GiB)

[23.13.41] I:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD\AVCHD-20100329-193718 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[23.13.41] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!

[23.13.41] Compilation contains HD-DVD/SD-DVD titles placed in [HD-DVD]/[DVD] folder.
[23.13.41] Burn each HD-DVD/SD-DVD title folder contents (both HVDVD_TS and VIDEO_TS for HD-DVD) to a separate DVD disc.

[23.13.43] You may now remove temp folder (C:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100329\).

[23.13.43] multiAVCHD finished in 12985.009 seconds (03:36:25.009)!

[23.13.43] End of log.

[zoner]

multiavchd is awsome and it can predict video encodes size but i dont think it can predict audio encodes, meaning, since LPCM is huge and AC3 is small you'll have to predict it yourself and add some bitrate to your video or ac3 encode. :)

example: you had your BD encoded to DVD on 4000kbs video and it originally had LPCM, so when your checked the LPCM to AC3 you saved around 1.5GB of space that your can use to give your video encode a boost!

[deank]

It is not completely true. multiAVCHD takes into account all audio tracks and their conversion settings (especially with SD-DVD output), so the calculated bitrate is proper.

There is something wrong and it is not the bitrate - I can't see the LPCM track to be demuxed in this log and at the end the SD-DVD doesn't contain any audio or subtitles. That's why it is 'undersized' because the audio is simply missing. If there was audio it would've been close to 8GB for DVD9.

// It is a bug: when there are no subtitles no audio is added :) I'll fix it in a minute.

// @daberti: It is fixed now. Sorry for so many failures at your end, but I simply couldn't test all possible scenarios. :(

[Capsbackup]

At the moment, motion background and title-thumb are restricted to 777 NTFS frames (~32.32 seconds). What you see is caused by the audio, which should be 32 seconds, too, but in your case it is much longer. The loop should happen after audio is out, then it should start again. Isn't it? :rolleyes:


No it did not start again. I can reduce the audio to the 32 seconds, and see if that will correct the looping from not starting again.
Thanks.

[deank]

I'll need to check on that, too.

//

Here is another cool feature with SD-DVDs.

You can now convert audio-titles to SD-DVD :)


[17:09:27] [DVD]: Title#1 "Lil Wayne - Lollipop - Audio Title" auto-configured for smart transcoding to DVD format (video bitrate: 4000 kbps).

[17:09:29] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 743)
[17:09:29] Selected output mode: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc)

[17:09:29] Processing one title...
[17:09:29] Preprocessing audio title (D:\Downloads\__TEST\Lil Wayne - Lollipop.[720x480-23.976].[AUDIO].ac3).
[17:09:29] Processing audio...
[17:09:29] Output bit depth: 16 bit
[17:09:29] Trying to detect title duration - please wait...
[17:09:29] Using duration: 299 seconds / [00:04:59]
[17:09:29] Using auto-generated chapter marks!
[17:09:29] Preparing audio title background (NTSC).
[17:09:30] Encoding...
[17:09:30] Selected encoding mode: 2 GOP
[17:09:44] Muxing...
[17:09:47] Completed!

[17:09:47] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[17:09:47] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[17:09:47] *** Initiating video encoding:

[17:09:47] *** Original : 720x480
[17:09:47] *** Crop : 0
[17:09:47] *** Resize : 720x480 (No change)
[17:09:47] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[17:09:47] *** Sharpen : 0
[17:09:47] *** Bitrate : 4000 kbps
[17:09:47] *** Frame rate: 23.976 (29.970)
[17:09:47] *** Profile : SD-DVD (MPEG-2)

[17:09:47] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:04:59] (MPEG-2 encoder: QuEnc)
[17:10:02] *** Speed : 473.28 fps (elapsed: 00:00:15 - Realtime x 19.74)
[17:10:03] *** Transcoding successful!

[17:10:03] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG-2 720x480, fps=23.976
[17:10:03] Display properties: 853x480 (AR:1.78)
[17:10:03] Total of 1 tracks found in this file.
[17:10:03] AR of 16:9 will be set for this title.
[17:10:03] Adding audio file (Lil Wayne - Lollipop.[720x480-23.976].[AUDIO].ac3)
[17:10:03] Creating SD-DVD structure...
[17:10:11] Demuxing 0 subtitle and 1 audio tracks...
[17:10:14] No subtitles demuxed!
[17:10:14] Processing 1 audio tracks...
[17:10:20] Audio processing completed!
[17:10:20] Applying pulldown...
[17:10:23] Authoring DVD structure (muxman)...
[17:10:23] Title contains: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks
[17:10:27] SD-DVD muxing completed!

[17:10:27] SD-DVD title saved:
[17:10:27] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_AT44\[DVD]\Lil Wayne - Lollipop - Audio Title

[17:10:27] Compilation contains 1 (HD)DVD titles and no AVCHD/Blu-ray titles!

Compilation summary:
Format: DVD player (DVD R/RW disc) (mixed with DVD)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. 1 HD/SD-DVD titles
===============================================================================
Output size : 167 MiB (0.163 GiB)

[17:10:30] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_AT44 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!

[17:10:32] multiAVCHD finished in 62.977 seconds (00:01:02.977)!



It means that you can load your favorite DTS-MA/HRA or TRUE-HD album (or an album MP3/AC3/DTS/OGG/MP2/WAV/LPCM/MLP... etc :)) and create one AUDIO SD DVD.

That is in build 743.

Also, there is an option to choose HCenc 1-pass (VBR) in SETTINGS tab. It turns out it produces quite good results and is much faster (~2x) than 2-pass :)
Some other things fixed like (adding the 1st external subtitle track twice and a wrong log message about skipping a track, because it is too short)...
All okay now.

[Capsbackup]

deank, I can confirm that the looping menu works properly now that I have reduced the audio file to less than 32 seconds. Very nice!
Is there a need or advantage to keep the HDAVCTN folder that is created, or is the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders all that should be kept?

[deank]

HDAVCTN contains the thumbnail pictures for the menu creation. In case you don't plan to re-use the structure you can remove the folder. Otherwise it greatly speeds up the authoring of a menu if you re-create the compilation using this (and other) folders/files.

[Capsbackup]

Ok, good to know. So if I want to run this same project again with some minor changes, but with the same menu, where should this HDAVCTN folder be placed or how do I take advantage of the increased speed of authoring the menu? :confused:

[deank]

When you import a multiAVCHD compilation there are two things that speed up its re-processing:

* multiAVCHD.mpf - the project file. If it is present all rescanning/checking will be skipped, since the information is already available in the project file.

* HDAVCTN - if present, when creating the menu, title and chapter thumbnails will not be extracted and the process is a bit faster. Still, menu needs to be re-encoded.

Dean

[Capsbackup]

I save the project, and I have saved the .mpf to my source folder. This is what I "Load Project" with.
But where will I save or where is "present" this HDAVCTN folder? Where is multiAVCHD looking for the folder?
It is part of the compilation of the new BluRay, but if I want to run it again with some changes, do I need to transfer/copy this folder somewhere?

[deank]

The project you save with [Save project] button is to be used when you want to re-do the compilation from scratch with the original files.

The project that is auto-saved in the output folder is different and is used for fast-import of already created compilation.

HDAVCTN folder must be present when you import existing compilation to utilize the files in it.

[VincAlastor]

i won't to annoy you any more about the 32-sec-limit... sorry you realize many other great functions ...thanks again
one question: can i exchange the mx264.exe with the 32-bit x264.exe build 1510, because it seems to be fully blu ray compatible?

[deank]

I'll get to the 32second limit - just be patient.

No, don't touch mx264.exe. It creates compliant output, don't worry! If you want to experiment, replace x264.exe. Changing mx264.exe will cause all to fail with the menus, mark my words.

// Now thinking about it: you can't change mx264.exe... multiAVCHD will register the change and will not proceed :) at all.

[deank]

SD DVD audio discs output should now work properly. There were some extra conversions, which weren't necessary so the latest update got some optimizations.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SDDVD_AUDIO_TITLE.jpg

Also, it is now possible to open the [transcode] window for audio titles and select desired bitrate for video encoding (that is for SD-DVD output only), and thus using bitrate-estimation suggestions for better results.

My test was with a DTS HD (Master audio) album (~3GB) with desired output set to 700MB, and the final DVD folder was ~670MB which is acceptable.

[daberti]

Deank...please please please: I DON'T EVER want to see a SORRY from you again!!!
Period.

You're making so many efforts and you're so talented!!

Your program will be able to grow only as long as we donate money (I do know that develpment tools and time do cost) and cooperate with our own sources.

Respect to your work is deserved, at a bare minimum.

I strongly underline that from now on every post of mine will have to be read by everyone as cooperation :thanks:

EDIT:
I wonder how many out there have an idea about mantaining more than 32.000lines of code.
remming the code itself just to remind what code has been written to what extent.
dealing with a layer of OS that is painful just to remind with the service packs, update to service packs, multimedia API and so on.
When I'm talking about talent and respect, I'm thinking about hours spent documenting yourself about this and command line switches of external tools, and about their bugs to be addressed maybe avoiding the usage of some of their switches....

[deank]

:p It is fun adding features... It is the debugging/testing part which is not so pleasant and it is not about the donations (although it is kind of cool, too!)

There were a lot of updates today, so make sure you use multiUPDATE before you try anything.

Dean

I wonder how many out there have an idea about mantaining more than 32.000lines of code.

I'm thinking about hours spent documenting yourself about this and command line switches of external tools, and about their bugs to be addressed maybe avoiding the usage of some of their switches....

Well all the free tools, which multiAVCHD uses are from talented guys/gals and without them multiAVCHD would simply be another tool (although a lot of things are done without external apps), yet each tool has its benefits and bugs - that's what multiAVCHD does - try all possible things (those you'd manually do for fail-rety-fail-retry). :)

[Adub]

Also, there is an option to choose HCenc 1-pass (VBR) in SETTINGS tab. It turns out it produces quite good results and is much faster (~2x) than 2-pass :)


NOW THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!

Oh, and as to the subtitles thing, what you said makes sense. The first 100 frames was purely credits and introductions, with no talking, so I can understand the subtitle problems.

Will test when I get home! Thanks again Deank!

[deank]

We'll get there... :rolleyes:

I hope all will go smooth this time :) Just make sure you have the latest build (which is timestamped 22:01 EET).

Dean

// The first 100 frames was purely credits...

The value in title-properties is in seconds and I hope actors didn't get to the talking part at least for the first 1 min and 40 secs. :)

[Adub]

The value in title-properties is in seconds and I hope actors didn't get to the talking part at least for the first 1 min and 40 secs. :)

Ah, I suppose that makes sense. I'm used to my cutting programs being in frames, but seconds makes more sense here.

P.S. I have updated the guide to reflect the fact that we now support multiple audio/subtitle tracks. I plan on tweaking it a bit more once I find some time, but it should be pretty good now.

[daberti]

There were a lot of updates today, so make sure you use multiUPDATE before you try anything.

Dean


My last problem looks like being solved :thanks:

[deank]

Ah, I suppose that makes sense. I'm used to my cutting programs being in frames, but seconds makes more sense here.

P.S. I have updated the guide to reflect the fact that we now support multiple audio/subtitle tracks. I plan on tweaking it a bit more once I find some time, but it should be pretty good now.

Thank you for the guide you set. I took the liberty to add it at videohelp (http://www.videohelp.com/guides/converting-blu-ray-to-standard-dvd-using-multiavchd-id1174#1174). I hope you don't mind. :rolleyes:

My last problem looks like being solved :thanks:

:) And a lot of other problems with SD-DVD should be gone, too.

[Adub]

Ah, so it was YOU who did that! I was surprised, because I normally do it myself, but I saw that someone had already beaten me to the punch.

Its no worries, Dean. Thanks for doing some of my work for me. ;)

[setarip_old]

@deank

In light of the fact that you have so many areas devoted to menu-related functions, for the sake of those who are either new to or infrequent users of multiAVCHD, perhaps you can put a big button on the initial leftside "page" labelled "Make Menus On/Off" - and if "Off" is selected, ALL related items on the "AUTHOR" and "MENU" tabs would be greyed-out.

This would eliminate doubt as to what has to or doesn't have to be addressed by the user (depending on what the user is attempting to accomplish).

[BZeeme]

There were a lot of updates today, so make sure you use multiUPDATE before you try anything.


Just curious, what is the difference between the update when multiAVCHD is run and the update using multiUPDATE?

[deank]

There is no difference, but when the build number is not changed and the .exe size of the new build is the same, multiAVCHD may not self-update. Using multiUPDATE just downloads the build off my site, unpacks it and starts it, no matter what your current version is.

[shearer69]

newbie to program, Any reason why user user menu style is greyed out and cant select custom

[deank]

Important update:

* Full download of multiAVCHD 4.0 now includes 32bit and 64bit versions of x264.exe r1510. (http://x264.fushizen.eu/)

* For compatibility reasons with HD-DVD output I'm keeping an older copy in tools folder (named hx264.exe) along with mx264.exe (which is used for encoding the menu pages).

* The number of playitems in each menu-page playlist is decreased from 500 to 98.

* A typo was preventing 1-pass VBR with HCenc - fixed now.

Dean

// @shearer69: Because it is just a label. Custom menus with templates are available for some time now.

***

I just accidentally deleted my Null-soft installer script :( Still the latest full-download which I uploaded is okay (without the fix for 1pass vbr with hcenc). You can update with multiUPDATE once you download the whole thing.

[shearer69]

Important update:

* Full download of multiAVCHD 4.0 now includes 32bit and 64bit versions of x264.exe r1510.

* For compatibility reasons with HD-DVD output I'm keeping an older copy in tools folder (named hx264.exe) along with mx264.exe (which is used for encoding the menu pages).

* The number of playitems in each menu-page playlist is decreased from 500 to 98.

* A typo was preventing 1-pass VBR with HCenc - fixed now.

Dean

// @shearer69: Because it is just a label. Custom menus with templates are available for some time now.

***

I just accidentally deleted my Null-soft installer script :( Still the latest full-download which I uploaded is okay (without the fix for 1pass vbr with hcenc). You can update with multiUPDATE once you download the whole thing.

So how do I select one of the custom menus included such as Hitech or kids by drelin

[deank]

Open [properties] for a title. There is a button: [more] next to Menu page:... There you have [Load template].

[shearer69]

Open [properties] for a title. There is a button: [more] next to Menu page:... There you have [Load template].

Thanks got it now, original guide I read quoted ticking user style

[shearer69]

Is there a way to use an own avi as welcome screen/ menu

[deank]

No.

Please visit http://multiFORUM.deanbg.com/ for more info and questions.

[deank]

I just accidentally deleted my Null-soft installer script :( Still the latest full-download which I uploaded is okay (without the fix for 1pass vbr with hcenc). You can update with multiUPDATE once you download the whole thing.

Ok, I rewrote it and uploaded the proper full-version with all fixes. It is a bit larger than the one from yesterday, because of 2x7mb x264 32bit+64bit (~36MB total).


* The number of playitems in each menu-page playlist is decreased from 500 to 98.

Also playitem count is decreased to 56 (~30 mins of menu looping - it was ~5 hours before). I'm trying to figure out what causes crashes and problems with some players with version 4.0 menus - especially with some samsungs and panasonics. I'll appreciate feedback from users with such players, using AVCHD relaxed or Blu-ray output from multiAVCHD.

Dean

[claymic]

Hi Dean.
If i have a blu-ray and i inset them in multiavchd. can I insert external subtitle like .srt ? If i want remove everything, less the audio english and movie, can I ? Do you can put in the option the possibility to gerate a .iso of this blu ? I brougth a wdtv live, and it can ready .iso of blu-ray.
Thanks mans. I can not test this yet, because i dont have backup my blu-ray disc yet and my wdtv dont arrived.
Clayton

[daberti]

Stupid question: I encoded Black Hawk Down from Bluray to SD-DVD (1pass VBR at 6300kbps) and I scored a 7096MB output against 7996MB that were predicted.
Should I consider this as:
1)Ceteribus paribus 6300kbps is just overkill (in this case) as average achieved bitrate is fairly lower?
2)Final output dimension prediction for SD-DVD with 1pass vbr needs to be improved?

:Thanks:

EDIT: I remember form times of AutoGk that a test could be done about the compressibility of a video (better, a part of it taken as a test) given a bitrate/final dimension...do you think that the same could be done here?