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rattice

29th June 2010, 18:20

Hi all, and especially deank. Been browsing forums for hours looking for this answer to no avail. I think it is EXTREMELY rare that a guy builds such great software that is free, AND is always on forums answering questions about it. I commend you on this.
This is for anyone that can answer. Using multiAVCHD for mkv video playback with HD audio on PS3 since there is nothing that can stream it from PC. I have a 500GB portable HDD that I set up with fat32 to which multiAVCHD outputs. Now sometimes I run into the "Ref count (X)! Height (yyy) not compliant" issue, which results in the dreaded green bar at the bottom. What I have read is that I can transcode or re-encode using multiAVCHD which should solve this issue? The most recent movie with this problem is 1080p but the error is this: "Ref count [5] too high / Height (796) non-compliant!". I have had success with compliant files, but not with these types of errors. If you could please tell me how to process these files to eliminate the green bar, which options to use, etc, I would appreciate it. Thanks so much in advance.

Capsbackup

29th June 2010, 21:30

Why are the 1080P files non-compliant? Did they come from a Blu-ray rip? :confused:
If not, why not just reencode to be compliant. That would eliminate your problem for PS3 playback. Properly resize to 1920x1080 or 1280x720, and possibly 1440x1080.
You could try this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=135795
multiAVCHD will also allow you to input a custom AVS script, so you could reencode to compliance with it too.

rattice

29th June 2010, 21:54

Yeah, it's re-encoding now with multiAVCHD...but the ETA is 4 hrs and 40 mins!! That's for 1 movie and it's a trilogy so times that by 3. The resolution is 1920X796 for some reason.

Music Fan

29th June 2010, 22:23

You should try MKV2VOB to avoid a reencoding of your video.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/mkv2vob

rattice

29th June 2010, 23:13

would the result from that be playable on the PS3 with HD Audio ?

Capsbackup

30th June 2010, 00:26

would the result from that be playable on the PS3 with HD Audio ?

You could try to use tsMuxer to demux a small piece of the video you want to test by using the Split & Cut function, perhaps 2-3 minutes should be enough, remux to .ts or .m2ts or another program to mkv, then use Music Fan's suggestion of MKV2VOB. Should save you a lot of time, especially if no reencoding is necessary. :)

rattice

30th June 2010, 18:44

Adub

30th June 2010, 23:11

Ooopps... Rattice we can't help you.

I wish people would state the resolution in the NFO (1920X796) so you know in advance!!

MrVideo

1st July 2010, 03:43

Dean I think the answer to this question is as simple as examining the disc itself for any copyright symbol or statement. If Panasonic did not apply one, then I would think they will be hard-pressed to complain about its distribution?

Not exactly true, at least in the U.S. Your work is automatically copyrighted as soon as it is published. A little tighter control is to indicate that is it copyrighted. Best is to register it with the U.S. Copyright Office.

Just because something is freely distributed does not mean it is without copyright. Unless it is marked that it is in the public domain, it isn't.

A manual comes with every TV too, but it is copyrighted material.

Odds are that Panasonic will not come after anyone that provides copies of it for free. As soon as you try to collect money for it, they probably will come after you.

My two cents.

Capsbackup

1st July 2010, 04:10

deank, for some reason that I can't figure out, I am unable to create a motion menu longer than 32 seconds using build 757 or 758. I select 0 no limit, use as is, enter my 60 second .ts or .m2ts file, but the video will stop at 32 seconds while the audio continues til the end, 60 seconds. It will then begin over again, but the video is only 32 seconds. If I check the file in the BDMV folder, 80010.m2ts, and play it with MPC, it also reports it is only 32 seconds. :confused:

MrVideo

1st July 2010, 04:20

Note 1: I've never been into DVD authoring. (never authored 1 DVD).

I have, using a program called DVD Maestro, a professional DVD authoring package.

When a video is finished, you can go to any resource that is available. That means it can be a menu or another video. If it is a menu, it can be any button on the menu, i.e., highlighted as the default option.

I have no idea what BD can do. I do not have access to a professional BD authoring package, or at least a manual. I do know it can do a LOT more.

rattice

1st July 2010, 04:21

I ran into another problem. I have used this app for mkv files and made them into AVCHD compliant for PS3 playback, but I tried to add an M2TS file from the BD backup (stream folder) and then clicked start, and I keep getting an error:

[00:00:52] Important files missing (clpi/mpls/m2ts)...
[00:00:52] Possible tsMuxeR failure to process your input file (E:\_Movies\INCREDIBLE HULK 2008\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts).
[00:00:52] M2TS (media) file count: 1
[00:00:52] CLPI (clipinfo) file count: 0
[00:00:52] MPLS (playlist) file count: 0

[00:00:52] Skipping to next...

[00:00:52] ERROR: Compilation does not contain any HD-DVD/AVCHD/Blu-ray titles!

00009.m2ts is the main movie file. I wanted to run it through multiAVCHD to end up on my USB device so I could take advantage of HD audio. I ended up streaming it with DTS because I couldn't figure out this error.

ANyone?

MrVideo

1st July 2010, 04:45

Properly resize to 1920x1280 or 1280x720, and possibly 1440x1080.

I suspect you really mean 1920x1080.

Capsbackup

1st July 2010, 04:53

I suspect you really mean 1920x1080.

:) Yes, thanks for the correction.

deank

1st July 2010, 09:51

@Caps: The 'no limit' option applies only to XMB menu style.

Capsbackup

1st July 2010, 14:57

@Caps: The 'no limit' option applies only to XMB menu style.

Thanks deank, figured I was missing something simple. :p

Music Fan

1st July 2010, 16:41

Well, it doesn't "need" to be re-encoded as it actually plays, but with a big GREEN BAR at the bottom of the screen, and the picture is pushed up to the top of the screen (uncentered). I believe this is due to it being non-AVCHD compliant. No way I am watching a movie like that, and the only way I was told to fix it is to re-encode...
I learnt today that there is a green bar only when the number of lines is under 514 for 720p (thus 1280.514, ratio = 2,49:1) and probably more for 1080p/i.
So, if the rule is the same for 1080p/i, you need 772 lines (1920/2,49) to avoid the green bar (it will be black). But I don't know if it will be centered or not.
I don't have PS3 so I can't test it.
As you have 796 lines, I don't understand what happens. Maybe, it doesn't work with 1920.xxx videos.
Have you well 1920 points per line or less ?

insaneoctane

2nd July 2010, 19:39

Just a quick question about processing titles directly from Blu Ray inside MAVCHD...
I know you can select/deselect the various streams (audio, subtitles, etc), but I've noticed (in the past) when I use tsMuxer to select/deselect the various streams I will often see multiple VIDEO sources. The second video source is often a lower res (like 720p or 480p), but in tsMuxer I usually ONLY include the 1080p "main" video stream. So, is this functionality lost if I'm using MAVCHD to select/deselect my streams? With out this selection option, should I assume that the lower res video is always included in the resultant file (which obviously would make it larger) with no value? Just looking for clarification, thanks!

rattice

2nd July 2010, 21:07

Yeah, I tried to add the "main" video stream (movie.m2ts) via "Add Video Files", and was unable to create the AVCHD similar to using mkv files. I think I was able to do it by deleting all the useless other files from the STREAM folder, then adding the BDMV folder via the "AVCHD/BDMV/DVD folders" button.

deank

3rd July 2010, 08:57

Just a quick question about processing titles directly from Blu Ray inside MAVCHD...

No, multiAVCHD will try to detect and use only the primary video track, leaving low-res tracks out of the final mux.

You'll see a message in the log "Only this video track will be used"... or something similar.

Dean

b66pak

3rd July 2010, 19:32

OT: did you notice the new cinavia (http://www.cinavia.com/languages/english/index.html) audio watermarking protection?
_

icyred64

3rd July 2010, 20:34

mkv to Ps3 BURN INSTRUCTIONS

If the Mkv is 1920X1080 then just use tsmuxer to make it into a blu-ray format and then imgburn the bdmv/certificate folders on disc

If the Mkv is 1920Xsomething else ex: 1920X816 then you need too uncrop the movie to 1920X1080 (meaning you HAVE too add the black bars in cause the ps3 cant make black bars which is why the movie plays ontop and big green bar gets added.)
I use Multiavchd to Transcode it leaving the size of movie 1920X816 but uncroping it to 1920X1080. Takes a few hours cause basicly its reencoding it with black bars in it. and BURN. now im being told that the new haali splitter update screws that up. im testing that now cause now the movie on my ps3 that i just uncropped is 1/2 the size and looks funny. Or the new multiavchd already sets the 1920X1080 and when you ucrop it does it twice now lol...

setarip_old

4th July 2010, 01:04

@b66pak

Hi! OT: did you notice the new cinavia audio watermarking protection?Do you know, for a fact, that this claimed new protection has been applied to any commercial disc releases, BluRay or standard DVD?

If so, which releases has it been incorporated into?

Or is this just an upated version of the vaporware referred to a couple of years ago at:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1021206#post1021206

setarip_old

6th July 2010, 09:11

@deank

Would you consider adding MKV output capability to "multiAVCHD"? (Please don't tell me you've already done so and I've completely overlooked it)

crl2007

6th July 2010, 10:39

The CINAVIA protection can be bypassed by fast forwarding at 1.5x speed for 20 seconds at the beginning and then return to normal. "The Losers" has it. This protection only affects standalone players.

Capsbackup

6th July 2010, 15:43

@deank;
as setarip_old has suggested: Would you consider adding MKV output capability to "multiAVCHD"? (Please don't tell me you've already done so and I've completely overlooked it)
is it possible to have multiAVCHD just encode to elementary stream .x264 as well?
Also, I have tested several .ts clips that I have recorded off my HD DVR, which my input video to multiAVCHD is an .avs script with tdecimate() to bring back a frame rate of 23.976 and maintain 1080P.
I always remove the audio from multiAVCHD's transcode option, but it still try's to reencode the audio, thus leaving the program hanging for a very long time (at the conclusion of transcode ). My preference is to just use the original audio file that I want to remux to the .x264 transcode from multiAVCHD but not within multiAVCHD.
I realize this is not the intention of your program, and I am unable to use uncropMKV with .avs scripts, so I have been using MeGui. However, I am interested in your thoughts to use multiAVCHD as just the reencode program as I have just mentioned. :)

setarip_old

6th July 2010, 16:25

@crl2007

Hi!

1) Is this protection on the BluRay version, the DVD version, or both?

2) Does the "fix" you've stated allow for REMOVAL or CIRCUMVENTION of the protection and creation of a clean backup?

(I guess those of us in the U.S. will have to wait until the 7/20/10 release date to see for ourselves)

crl2007

6th July 2010, 17:22

1. This protection only affects ( for the time being ) Blu-Ray players ( standalones, that have in them the CINAVIA detection kit ) and PS3.

2. It only circumvents the activation of the protection on standalone players. If you have a backup and play from your HDD, then you'll have no problem.

More info on the protection here (http://filesharefreak.com/2010/03/03/cinavia-drm-aimed-to-stop-piracy-on-blu-ray-ps3s/).

The Blu-Ray + DVD release is not available in my country either. I found out by googling CINAVIA. It seems that even for DVDSCR is active. It was designed especially for fighting off piracy and The Losers is the first one to have this protection. And if DVDSCR movies ( DVDs created for previews ) found on illegal download sites have them, then I think we should expect DVD players to have this hardware protection in the not so distant future.

setarip_old

6th July 2010, 17:56

@crl2007

I see nothing at that link referring to "The Losers" - only "peer-to-peer that contain Cinavia DRM: TS/CAM versions of The Wolfman and Shutter Island". (Pirated stuff to which I personally say good riddance)

I also see nothing at that link referring to the "fast forward fix" you described.

Regardless, it will be interesting to see if the protection is real this time around, as opposed to the similar vaporware of 2008 - and what, if any, impact it might have on programs such as BD-Rebuilder...

crl2007

6th July 2010, 21:06

TS/CAM versions of The Wolfman and Shutter Island, and some other sources including DVDSCR (The Losers, both by Imagine and Flawl3ss) I don't watch anything less than Blu-Ray and DVDSCR popped out because it is related to DVDs.

And here (http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2010/03/03/new_cinavia_drm_takes_aim_at_pirates) is where I read about the 1.5x ff.

Since the first Q in 2010 all Blu-Ray players have this detection kit built-in. I'm sure that programs such AnyDVD HD will be able to remove this watermark in the future, or at least circumvent it.

@crl2007

I see nothing at that link referring to "The Losers" - only "peer-to-peer that contain Cinavia DRM: TS/CAM versions of The Wolfman and Shutter Island". (Pirated stuff to which I personally say good riddance)

That's the whole idea, to combat piracy, but they make us, legitimate users, suffer in the process. Just like Ubisoft ( gaming industry ) with their permanently online connection to play single player games. When there is no internet connection available you don't get to play. This Cinavia DRM is too intrusive, not allowing buyers to back-up their discs as they like. We buy them but we can't use them as we like, we have to use them as they like.

l.e. On a peer-to-peer forum discussion I read that The Losers Blu-Ray mkv rip has the same watermark, so the Blu-Ray will most likely have it.

setarip_old

6th July 2010, 23:01

Considering the caliber of the source(s) for your statements, as well as the age of the primary link you've quoted (March 2010 - with, apparently, no subsequent reports) and the lack of evidence that anything other than POSSIBLY pirated "Cams" ("poisoned" by capturing theater audio, if they exist) may have been affected, I believe this may be just another round of evanescent protection by the same company that was ballyhooing this in 2008.

Perhaps when the legitimate version of "The Losers" is available, we'll find out if it contains this protection and whether anyone will actually discover that they own a standalone (or possibly a PS3) that is definitely affected by this supposed product...

crl2007

7th July 2010, 06:38

Yes, we'll have to wait until July 20 and see for ourselves if our backups play well on PS3 and standalones that have these kits.

This file The.Losers.2010.BluRay.720p.DTS.x264-CHD was reported on some peer-to-peer forums to have cinavia. It was reported by owners of PS3. In China and chinese peer-to-peer illegal sites, this Blu-Ray has already fallen into their hands and they uploaded that mkv file.

Limobar

7th July 2010, 08:25

@deank

I would like to see the option 'fit all' have the extra option to skip titles you don't want to be part of the 'fit all' process, but maintain part of the project. In most cases this will be the main movie. I guess that this option could be selected in the title properties screen.

I also suggest that menus only get a lower bitrate and that bonus material could get a lower bitrate, but also get a lower resolution. This means that the menus only can be compressed to limited degree, but that bonus material can be compressed to about 1000 kbit/sec with resolutions like 720x400. An hour of bonus material will only take 550 MB of space then.

This is what I'm doing manually, but I think this can be done more efficiently and automatically :)

rendez2k

7th July 2010, 09:18

Does anyone know if MAVCHD increases the video brigntness when it encodes MKVs? I've tested playing the same MKV as directly as I can through the PS3 (using MKVtoVOB and also PS3 media server to do a direct stream). Both of those methods are really dark and I need to increase TV brightness. The video from an AVCHD DVD made with MAVCHD is much brighter in the dark scenes to the point that blocking is showing up. Any ideas?

deank

7th July 2010, 11:53

rendez2k

7th July 2010, 12:04

No, multiAVCHD doesn't alter the brightness.

File/streaming playback uses different settings than Blu-ray/AVCHD and there is difference. You can check your PS3 settings about FULL/LIMITED color range (in Display settings).

Thanks. I didn't know they used different settings. I think mine is set to full but reading around it looks like it might need to be limited. Would that be the only setting to affect brightness?

deank

7th July 2010, 12:06

I used to use LIMITED all the time... Last week I switched to FULL, but yesterday set it back to limited. "AVCHD"/"Blu-ray" seems unaffected by the setting (or look better with FULL), but streamed/file-playback gets too dark and I prefer to use LIMITED.

rendez2k

7th July 2010, 12:16

That appears to be the exact issue. Streamed/local playback is really dark - in dark scenes you can't see anything. I'll give it a test tonight.

I'm not sure my TV/PS3 is calibrated right anyway. On an MKV I converted with MAVCHD last night, dark areas had lots of blocking. You can just about see some of it on the original MKV before conversion on my PC, but after conversion and on a slightly brighter TV you can see lots. I always seem to have issues with colour-banding on graduated objects too (such as skys in say a cartoon).

f362580

7th July 2010, 18:29

deank, can we have more types of 3D => anaglyph conversion?
I have cyan-red glasses (not red-cyan) personally.

Avisynth_challenged

7th July 2010, 19:56

I downloaded the setup file for the latest version of multiavchd.

Question: Can the install package for multiavchd 4.x be run so that it installs version 4.x over a previous 3.x installation? I'm running WinXP Pro 32-bit SP3.

Thanks in advance :)

deank

8th July 2010, 10:09

deank, can we have more types of 3D => anaglyph conversion?
I have cyan-red glasses (not red-cyan) personally.

The option is in SETTINGS. There is magenta/green option - probably your glasses are this type.

I downloaded the setup file for the latest version of multiavchd.

Question: Can the install package for multiavchd 4.x be run so that it installs version 4.x over a previous 3.x installation? I'm running WinXP Pro 32-bit SP3.

Yes, but I'd suggest not to do that. If you do, please remove multiAVCHD.ini file.

Dean

Avisynth_challenged

8th July 2010, 18:11

Regarding my previous question about whether version 4.x could be installed right over 3.x, you wrote:

Yes, but I'd suggest not to do that. If you do, please remove multiAVCHD.ini file.

Dean

I confess that I was not patient enough to wait for the reply, and went ahead and ran the installer for 4.1, which installed in my system under Program files > MultiAVCHD, where my previous install (version 4.0, not 3.x as I previously thought) was located.

The result is that I now have two installations residing on my system, version 4.0 and version 4.1, with quick launch icons for each available one residing in the startup quick launch folder on my system.

I've been playing around with 4.1, which seems to be in working order (great software, by the way!). I have not tried to launch or use version 4.0 since the update installation.

Is this an okay configuration to have for MultiAVCHD? Or should I maybe uninstall everything, then re-install only the latest 4.1? I just want to be sure that I'm running your software properly.

Thanks for your earlier response, and for your immense contributions to this community :)

f362580

8th July 2010, 23:27

The option is in SETTINGS. There is magenta/green option - probably your glasses are this type.

no
left eye - cyan, right - red

deank

9th July 2010, 10:35

@Avisynth_challenged: No, it is not okay. Both shortcuts will launch the same .exe (ver 4.1).

If you want to have 2 different versions then use 2 different installation folders. :)

@f362580: You'll have to get a pair of 'normal' red/cyan or green/magenta glasses.

***

The GUI is changed to fit 1024x768 screen resolution.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_media.jpg

framura

9th July 2010, 15:51

Hi deank,

do you think to add delay feature with external subtitles?

For my needs this would be great.

Thanks for your wonderful program :thanks:

insaneoctane

9th July 2010, 16:38

Deank,

Question on "un-doing" some of the work that MAVCHD has done....
I'm converting from a AVCHD Manager workflow....
If I fill, say a 1.5TB drive with titles via MAVCHD and then begin to fill another drive with titles and then at a later date want to move one of the titles OFF the completed 1.5TB drive with MAVCHD and replace it with a different title, how would I extract the title so that I can still use it? The trouble I'm running into is that MAVCHD sort of "takes" the titles under it's wing and renames them, etc... I'm not sure how to get them back out (It would be really nice if I could not only get them back, but could still use them with AVCHD Manager too).
Thanks for your help

deank

9th July 2010, 18:06

To get a title off a compilation you can load its playlist and create another compilation. You'll be able to use it with AVCHD manager later.

By doing it you'll 'remove' it from the BIG compilation, which will cause player to 'lock' if you try to play it. To avoid this you can simply recompile the big compilation without the missing title.

Dean

insaneoctane

9th July 2010, 22:23

rattice

10th July 2010, 12:17

I have a mkv file that works fine when I stream to PS3, but when I try and transcode with MAVCHD, I get this error warning:

[05:56:08] Important files missing (clpi/mpls/m2ts)...
[05:56:08] Possible tsMuxeR failure to process your input file (E:\_Movies\Terminator.2.Judgment.Day.1991.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-HDC.mkv).
[05:56:08] M2TS (media) file count: 1
[05:56:08] CLPI (clipinfo) file count: 0
[05:56:08] MPLS (playlist) file count: 0

[05:56:08] Skipping to next...

[05:56:08] ERROR: Compilation does not contain any HD-DVD/AVCHD/Blu-ray titles!

Any ideas why it plays ok when streaming but says files are missing for transcoding? Thanks!!

mpucoder

10th July 2010, 13:34

MultiAVCHD is telling you what is wrong, you did not provide it with the files it needs. Use the original BD, not a partial rip.

deank

10th July 2010, 13:46

It is obvious that the MKV file is downloaded and I refrained myself from answering... But one never knows what is wrong/broken with such MKV files. One can load such file in tsMuxeR and process it - then the actual error will pop-up.

drpaulng

10th July 2010, 16:36

rattice

10th July 2010, 18:40

I process MKV files all the time and never had this error before. TEMP folder, FAT32, etc is all fine. Just found it strange it streams fine but wont transcode. I can live with it, just wanted to know about the error for future reference. Thanks.

Also, I find it odd that it processes for 6 hours before realizing the files it needs aren't there?!

deank

10th July 2010, 18:42

6 hours? Sounds absurd. As I said - open tsMuxer GUI, load your file and process it as Blu-ray/AVCHD disc - you'll see what is wrong.

rattice

10th July 2010, 18:53

ok thanks. The 6 hours is because I need to transcode. The height is non compliant so I need to uncrop it which is the 5-6 hour process time.

Loaded the file in tsMuxer, got to about 9% and threw this in the log: Invalid SRT format. "04BF52D0" is invalid timing info Any way to skip subtitle processing in MAVCHD since they aren't required anyway?

deank

10th July 2010, 19:01

Yes, by clicking [properties] and removing the subtitle track in [Subtitles].

rattice

10th July 2010, 19:11

insaneoctane

10th July 2010, 20:27

I wish this problem would go away, but everytime I think I've solved it, it comes back.

Summary of problem: I have a title that plays on my computer (MPC), but when I add it to a MAVCHD compilation, the resultant output files will NOT play on my computer!

Details:
I'm finding this is prominent with my Harry Potter 1-5 titles. I already had processed them with tsMuxeR and broke them into 4gb chunks and was using them successfully with AVCHD Manager. I then decided to switch to MAVCHD, but MAVCHD has not liked these files (neither has my OS, since all but the last M2TS files would not play on my computer "can not render file"). So, I've been scratching my head how to "clean" these files so that I can make a MAVCHD compilation that includes them....well I finally figured it out (I tried transcoding in MAVCHD, tsREmuxer, and various things with tsMuxeR all to NO avail). The solution that worked was to process each of the 4gb M2TS files individually with tsMuxeR and output each file as it's own "blu ray". This created 7 "blu rays" folder structures. Each of these resultant M2TS files would play in the OS fine. Then I used the "join" feature in tsMuxeR and created one big "blu ray" that was 25GB large. This file ALSO plays fine on my OS. MAVCHD has no problem operating on this file. BUT, when I output a MAVCHD compilation with this file as the input and choose PS3 as destination, the resultant 4GB M2TS files WILL NOT PLAY ON MY PC! This is driving me nuts. I'd love to know how to truncate one of these 4GB files so I could upload it to someone and let someone else tell me what the heck is going on!?

Why would a single M2TS file that plays in the OS result in 4GB M2TS files that WONT play in the OS after only being processed by MAVCHD? Help.
:mad:

spudman

10th July 2010, 22:22

Hi deank, I have created a few AVCHD's which play fine in my PS3. Recently though I created a movie with custom video and audio for the menu which I usually do and it all works fine. I Burnt to disc but when played in the PS3 the audio on the intro screen (which is also custom) and the audio on the menu played but with a stutter effect (like its being played and paused really fast). The custom video how ever was playing fine ?
The audio I used in MAVCHD i encoded to AC3 my self using Audacity. If I play the files on my PC they play fine though. Any ideas ??

Avisynth_challenged

11th July 2010, 00:57

Been experimenting with MultiAVCHD to archive some HD ATSC broadcast material. It's an amazing tool, and I publicly thank Dean for all his hard work, and for the ongoing support he gives to the users of his program.

I use VideoRedo to trim the commercials out of a program (raw MPEG2 HD .ts file), then I run CCExtractor to read the program's closed captioning and create a subtitle file in Subrip format (.srt).

Then I load the commercial-free edited video (saved in .mpg format with VideoRedo) and also the .srt file into MultiAVCHD. It's very nice that MultiAVCHD will autoload all program data assets if they have the same filename (i.e. manually adding video "file.m2v" will cause MultiAVCHD to auto-load "file.ac3" and "file.srt" for muxing the final content).

Anyway, I selected Panasonic Blu-ray output format (written to a SDHC card) and it played back beautifully on my Panny DMP-BD35 player.

The only issue that came up is when MultiAVCHD encounters a special character in the .srt file, like a "musical note" symbol, or an upside down question mark as used in Spanish dialog -- the subpicture rendering of those symbols is not correct.

The .srt file (which I can provide upon request) was encoded in UTF-8 text format (with CCExtractor), and these special characters and symbols display correctly within the .srt file itself.

When creating the final output from MultiAVCHD, I did not check the box for "Enable advanced processing for text-based SRT/SSA/SUB subtitles", or for "Post-process SRT/SSA subtitles", because I do not have Java installed on my PC. I did, however, check the box "Parse and fix SRT/SSA subtitle files".

I am wondering if I need to do advanced processing/post-processing for my subs to get the special symbols and characters to show correctly in the subpicture stream created by MultiAVCHD.

I am also wondering if it is possible to specify sub positioning at the top of the video instead of at the bottom with external .srt file input... or, again, is the ability to specify subtitle position only available with advanced processing/post-processing mode in MultiAVCHD?

Thanks to anyone who reads, and especially to those who can provide any insights and suggestions :thanks:

mpucoder

11th July 2010, 06:47

excellent, will give it a try tonight. Just wish I would know at the beginning, rather than at the end of the transcode process, 6 hours later! :) Thanks again.

Just wondering if just removing subtitle track will fix these errors:
[05:56:08] CLPI (clipinfo) file count: 0
[05:56:08] MPLS (playlist) file count: 0\
Will know later and post results.

Please do not. As Deank noted, it is obvious that this is a downloaded file and you do not own a legitimate copy. You were also warned previously about another download (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1413354#post1413354) and chose to edit out the incriminating info. Any further discussion about downloaded files will result in you being suspended.

deank

11th July 2010, 07:58

The audio I used in MAVCHD i encoded to AC3 my self using Audacity. If I play the files on my PC they play fine though. Any ideas ??

When you encode the audio yourself, make sure you set sample rate to 48000Hz. Most encoders will default to 44.1kHz which causes such stutter.

Been experimenting with MultiAVCHD to archive some HD ATSC broadcast material.

The only issue that came up is when MultiAVCHD encounters a special character in the .srt file, like a "musical note" symbol, or an upside down question mark as used in Spanish dialog -- the subpicture rendering of those symbols is not correct.

The .srt file (which I can provide upon request) was encoded in UTF-8 text format (with CCExtractor), and these special characters and symbols display correctly within the .srt file itself.

When creating the final output from MultiAVCHD, I did not check the box for "Enable advanced processing for text-based SRT/SSA/SUB subtitles", or for "Post-process SRT/SSA subtitles", because I do not have Java installed on my PC. I did, however, check the box "Parse and fix SRT/SSA subtitle files".

I am wondering if I need to do advanced processing/post-processing for my subs to get the special symbols and characters to show correctly in the subpicture stream created by MultiAVCHD.

I am also wondering if it is possible to specify sub positioning at the top of the video instead of at the bottom with external .srt file input... or, again, is the ability to specify subtitle position only available with advanced processing/post-processing mode in MultiAVCHD?

multiAVCHD cannot handle well UTF-8, so please save your SRT files as ANSI - or - leave as UTF-8 but untick [x] Parse and fix and tick [x] Advanced subtitle processing.

Using [x] Advanced subtitle processing will give you better looking subtitles (using avisynth+vsfilter) so I'd suggest that you install Java for BDsup2sub. Subtitle processing will be slower, but the final look is much nicer.

If you want to go more advanced :) there are two small apps included in multiAVCHD package: easySUP and goSUP. Both will allow you to create Blu-ray SUP file from text-SRT subtitles. Once you get a SUP file you can load it in BDsup2sub and move the subtitles UP/DOWN and arrange them as you wish. easySUP is slower and supports bold/italic/underline. goSUP is ~10x faster, but doesn't support (strips these codes).

Once you're done, use only file.m2v, file.ac3 and file.sup as input assets.

Dean

spudman

11th July 2010, 09:46

Thanks Deank, I think I will let MAVCHD encode it in future from MP3 :D

Avisynth_challenged

11th July 2010, 21:15

multiAVCHD cannot handle well UTF-8, so please save your SRT files as ANSI - or - leave as UTF-8 but untick [x] Parse and fix and tick [x] Advanced subtitle processing.

Using [x] Advanced subtitle processing will give you better looking subtitles (using avisynth+vsfilter) so I'd suggest that you install Java for BDsup2sub. Subtitle processing will be slower, but the final look is much nicer.

If you want to go more advanced :) there are two small apps included in multiAVCHD package: easySUP and goSUP. Both will allow you to create Blu-ray SUP file from text-SRT subtitles. Once you get a SUP file you can load it in BDsup2sub and move the subtitles UP/DOWN and arrange them as you wish. easySUP is slower and supports bold/italic/underline. goSUP is ~10x faster, but doesn't support (strips these codes).

Once you're done, use only file.m2v, file.ac3 and file.sup as input assets.

Dean

Thank you so much, Dean. Quick question... does easySUP require Java to run properly? Thanks :)
*EDIT* Found out *on another thread* (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=149160) that Java and Avisynth are required for easySUP.

rattice

11th July 2010, 23:38

it is obvious that this is a downloaded file and you do not own a legitimate copy.

How in God's name do you know this for certain? I am a computer engineer and happen to name.all.my.files.with.periods.instead.of.spaces. If meaningful filenames implies downloaded material, then perhaps next time I shall name it movie.mkv :D Cheers.

Guest

11th July 2010, 23:56

@rattice

No public discussion of rules and their interpretation by moderators (rule 17). Use PM to clarify matters. Thank you.

MrVideo

12th July 2010, 03:17

When you encode the audio yourself, make sure you set sample rate to 48000Hz. Most encoders will default to 44.1kHz which causes such stutter.

I use aften, which defaults to 48kHz.

Avisynth_challenged

12th July 2010, 05:14

Okay, I've run the latest Java install package in hopes that advanced processing for sub generation in MultiAVCHD (from .srt text input) would be able to render the "music note" symbol which was found in the original Closed Captions for the program I'm working on.

Since installing Java, I've been using MultiAVCHD 4.1, but no matter what I try, I cannot get that music note symbol (♪, called a "quaver", I believe) to be converted to a valid BD subpicture. I've tried changing up my .srt text format (tried UTF-8, Unicode, and ANSI - this one does not support the quaver symbol).

Has anyone here successfully generated subs for BD with a quaver symbol (♪) using either MultiAVCHD or EasySUP and a .srt input file? Thanks in advance for any feedback :)

*EDIT*
Here's a snippet from the MultiAVCHD log file which pertains to the subtitle generation process:

[20:10:59] Converting TEXT subtitles to PGS/SUP...
[20:10:59] [input.srt]
[20:10:59] Processing may take some time, so be patient!
[20:10:59] Advanced subtitle processing (step 1)...
[20:10:59] Fast mode enabled (1696x216 @ 29.970 fps with 112px margins)...
[20:15:25] Advanced subtitle processing (step 2)...
[20:16:50] *** 0 problems of all 1 are fixed!
[20:16:50] *** Imported subpictures: 994/994
[20:16:50] Conversion successful...

Note the line: *** 0 problems of all 1 are fixed!

I wonder if the "problem" pertains to the quaver symbol?

Adub

12th July 2010, 20:51

Your input is an srt file. Hmm....

I'm not sure that you can represent the quaver symbol via a text file. I'm not sure if the ANSI format supports it. I know that you are trying to use UTF-8, but if the file was ever converted to ANSI, chances are you lost the symbol. I'm not even sure that UTF-8 supports a quaver symbol.

*Update*: UTF-8 does support the quaver.

My question is, how did you create the .srt file? Did you use a subtitle ripping software of some sort?

Edit: Some reference material:
http://www.banglatorrents.com/showpost.php?p=45770&postcount=3

Avisynth_challenged

12th July 2010, 22:29

Thanks for responding.

Your input is an srt file. Hmm....

My question is, how did you create the .srt file? Did you use a subtitle ripping software of some sort?

My raw source is a HD MPEG2 .ts file of HD broadcast content recorded OTA ATSC in the U.S.

I used VideoRedo to trim the commercials out, and create a .mpg file of the edited program, sans commercials.

VideoRedo does not affect the Closed Captions which reside in the original .ts file. So the edited file has all the Closed Captions contained in the original.

Next, I ran the edited .mpg file through CCExtractor (for Windows), which created the .srt file from the Closed Caption data that resides in the .mpg file. I used a command line switch to enable UTF-8 formatting mode for the .srt file that CCExtractor outputs.

I have the original CCExtractor output file, and have made several versions with a text editor (Notepad) to save other versions with Unicode and ANSI encoded text formatting.

I've tried all 3 versions of my .srt data with MultiAVCHD 4.1 and the latest EasySUP, but cannot generate the quaver music note symbol. Everything else about the generated subs is otherwise PERFECT.

I'm now thinking that I'll just have to work around the problem, perhaps by modifying the .srt to convert all instances of the quaver music note symbol to something else. For example:

from this:
♪

to this:
[music playing]

Thanks again to everyone for the help and feedback. :thanks:

Adub

12th July 2010, 22:43

If you open up the .srt file and actually look at the parts that should have the quaver, can you actually see the character in the .srt file?

Avisynth_challenged

12th July 2010, 23:35

If you open up the .srt file and actually look at the parts that should have the quaver, can you actually see the character in the .srt file?

Yes, for both UTF-8 and Unicode. ANSI replaces it with "?"

This is when viewed with Notepad in WinXP Pro 32, SP3.

Adub

12th July 2010, 23:41

Okay, that is a good start then. It is sounding more an more like a conversion problem with something the easySUP uses.

Limobar

13th July 2010, 09:02

I'm sure the answer to my question is in this topic, but it's so big, that I hope you don't mind asking anyway.

I'm using multiAVCHD to make Blu-Rays with simple menus. I'm picking 'For all Blu-Ray players' as last option before the processing begins. The result I get plays fine on my computer (PowerDVD) and on my LG standalone Blu-Ray player, but doesn't play on the Playstation 3.

My question is: What kind of disk (no solid media) do I have to create, to make it compatible with the PS3? Are there any downsides to creating such disks, compared to the 'For all Blu-Ray players' disks I used to make?

TIA for your help!

Ghitulescu

13th July 2010, 09:04

You can't be serious - just have a deep look an the first button. Dean has a PS3 himself, thus the function of the first button

Limobar

13th July 2010, 09:09

You can't be serious - just have a deep look an the first button. Dean has a PS3 himself, thus the function of the first button

I'm as serious as can be. I didn't add "no solid media" for nothing.

deank

13th July 2010, 09:11

Yes, for both UTF-8 and Unicode. ANSI replaces it with "?"

This is when viewed with Notepad in WinXP Pro 32, SP3.

Ok... some experimenting today... and it turned out that easySUP works just fine with UTF-8 subtitles and SUPPORTS the 'melody' symbol :)

Just make sure that you select different (unicode) font like Arial, Verdana, Century, Courier New, Franklin Gothic, Garamond, etc. :)

Check other fonts to find one that you like. The default is TREBUCHET MS, which obviously doesn't have that symbol.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/easySUP_UTF8.JPG

Also, the updated easySUP.exe (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/easySUP.exe) will default to 1920x1080@23.976 when no video is present.

Dean

///

The latest updated version of goSUP (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goSUP.exe) now supports:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goSUP.jpg

* Bold, Italic, Underline SRT styles
* UTF-8 auto-detection (works both with ANSI and UTF-8 subtitle files)
* 2x times faster than before

...and is still much faster than easySUP, but requires vsfilter.dll in tools folder (if you have multiAVCHD you can find the DLL there). Encoding preview is now removed.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goSUP_BD.jpg

deank

13th July 2010, 09:12

I'm sure the answer to my question is in this topic, but it's so big, that I hope you don't mind asking anyway.

I'm using multiAVCHD to make Blu-Rays with simple menus. I'm picking 'For all Blu-Ray players' as last option before the processing begins. The result I get plays fine on my computer (PowerDVD) and on my LG standalone Blu-Ray player, but doesn't play on the Playstation 3.[/B]

You need to use [AVCHD relaxed]. It will play in your PS3 and in your LG.

Dean

Limobar

13th July 2010, 09:16

You need to use [AVCHD relaxed]. It will play in your PS3 and in your LG.

Dean
Thanks for your answer!

Capsbackup

13th July 2010, 15:44

Avisynth_challenged

13th July 2010, 16:48

Hat's off to Dean for his excellent support to his users and to this community :)

Just want to be sure... updating EasySUP and GoSUP is as simple as downloading the executibles for each (that you linked to in your last post), then putting the executible files (.exe) for both into the MultiAVCHD folder (replacing the old ones that are already there)... is this correct?

Again, Dean, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

Adub

13th July 2010, 17:04

As to your updating question: yes. Just download and replace.

Capsbackup

13th July 2010, 17:14

As to your updating question: yes. Just download and replace.

And/or would running multiUPDATE also work?

deank

13th July 2010, 18:04

deank; just curious if, now that the attached files in the BD-RB thread have been approved, you see anything that could explain the audio issues that multiAVCHD seems to correct when re-authoring?
I have been experimenting for quite some time and on several full movie backups to BD25 and BD5/9 with the re-author feature, mainly just for blanking warnings and adverts, and have been quite pleased! :)
This audio remove and add external audio was just a guess to test on my part with favorable results. :cool:

I took a look at the files. There are a lot of differences and multiAVCHD's files look much simpler, because it seems that there is a PIP or something in Scorpion King. About Twilight - I have no idea. multiAVCHD uses clean (tsMuxeR or a bit modified) playlist files to match the actual streams in the M2TS file.

As jdobbs posted, it will be a good thing to implement in BD Rebuilder about using blank/silent audio tracks when 'removing' them. It is not very nice approach to have references in mpls to streams not there.

And/or would running multiUPDATE also work?

multiUPDATE updates only multiAVCHD.exe.

deank

13th July 2010, 18:06

Just want to be sure... updating EasySUP and GoSUP is as simple as downloading the executibles for each (that you linked to in your last post), then putting the executible files (.exe) for both into the MultiAVCHD folder (replacing the old ones that are already there)... is this correct?

Yep. When a major update is required I post a link for the full-download of each app. Usually only multiAVCHD requires full-download updates, but in this case goSUP will require a full update if one uses it as a standalone and not as a part of multiAVCHD package (because vsfilter.dll is not present in goSUP app).

I did a lot of tests and now goSUP produces quality subtitles, too (just like from easySUP) + it got the UTF8/ANSI autodetection included + it works faster than I expected. :)

Capsbackup

13th July 2010, 18:48

I took a look at the files. There are a lot of differences and multiAVCHD's files look much simpler, because it seems that there is a PIP or something in Scorpion King. About Twilight - I have no idea. multiAVCHD uses clean (tsMuxeR or a bit modified) playlist files to match the actual streams in the M2TS file.

Yes the original Blu-ray Scorpion King did have PiP, but since the audio is DTS Express, I chose to disable the video part with BD-RB. Same is true for Twilight, I find no reason to keep the PiP video if you can't hear the audio too! :)

Avisynth_challenged

13th July 2010, 19:01

The latest updated version of goSUP (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goSUP.exe) now supports:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goSUP.jpg

* Bold, Italic, Underline SRT styles
* UTF-8 auto-detection (works both with ANSI and UTF-8 subtitle files)
* 2x times faster than before

...and is still much faster than easySUP, but requires vsfilter.dll in tools folder (if you have multiAVCHD you can find the DLL there). Encoding preview is now removed.

Question: Is font color unsupported in goSUP? The screenshot shows a "Font color" field (indicating the option was designed in the program), but the field is greyed out (indicating the feature in not available). I ask this only because some of my extracted .srt files do apply color to some texts. Thank you once more, Mr. Dean :)

deank

13th July 2010, 19:25

Avisynth_challenged

13th July 2010, 19:53

It indicates the color :) (in this case GREY). $C0C0C0 color (~gray) is almost 90% white on TV screen because of 16-240 conversion and that's why it is a default in most of my tools.

Click the color box and you'll get a screen to pick a color.

Thanks, Dean. Can't wait to get home and try again... then report my complete success with subs using your tools!!!

deank

14th July 2010, 08:36

Capsbackup

14th July 2010, 15:31

:) I'll try to implement ANSI/UTF-8 support/auto-detection in multiAVCHD, too.

//

@Caps: I believe BD players behave differently with PIP subpath information in the playlist when using DVD media. That's my only explanation of the problem (BD-RE works, DVD5/DVD9 doesn't). In fact most players do crazy things depending on the media :) not to mention playlist references to missing tracks.

I also noticed that 00003.mpls from Twilight points to different m2ts files: multiAVCHD: 00506.m2ts and BD-RB: 00001.m2ts. I wonder if 00001.m2ts is the original and why multiAVCHD will use 00506. (it does that in PS3 mode when splitting large files to 4GB chunks, but shouldn't happen in Blu-ray mode).

I have wondered why, but would not question, :) , referencing audio tracks to ones that are missing. We all know when we blank an audio track, or remove it, there should be silence at that track, so for it to play the kept audio track could be eliminated and a blank filler used instead.
As for Twilight, I did not mention that upon rebuild with multiAVCHD, there was an additional m2ts file created (00506) as well as the original one (00001), so the finished backup was over 5.0GB too big to fit a DVD +R DL. :confused:
After checking with BDInfo, there was no association with 00001.m2ts, only with 00506.m2ts. So I deleted it and the backup still worked! I figured it was a quirk of some kind, since there was two .mpls files associated with the main movie 00001.m2ts, and one was probably referencing the PiP, which was removed by BD-RB.
Sorry to overlook this, but I did not think it was a problem with multiAVCHD. Upon further review, perhaps there is more to it than I previously thought!:p

deank

14th July 2010, 15:50

When multiple playlists refer to the same m2ts multiAVCHD doesn't do very well and 'duplicates' (triplicates :)) the media. And yes - deleting 00001.m2ts is the way to go.

Dean

//

I think I'll add a final-check routine to verify m2ts files usage in playlists and to remove the orphan ones.

Capsbackup

14th July 2010, 15:59

When multiple playlists refer to the same m2ts multiAVCHD doesn't do very well and 'duplicates' (triplicates :)) the media. And yes - deleting 00001.m2ts is the way to go.

Dean

Good to know! It doesn't happen often. :)
Hopefully, a more definitive fix can be implemented. But for now, on some of these troublesome backups I have an alternative that works! :cool:

JoeH

14th July 2010, 17:33

Hi Dean. Is there still hope for full menu compatibility with Panasonic Blu-ray players? I just ask because I have't seen any comments on it in a good while and was wondering if you had determined that it is definitely not possible. Thanks.

deank

14th July 2010, 17:36

setarip_old

14th July 2010, 22:43

@deank

Since our email appears to continue to be a one way street, I'll ask if you've received and viewed the video I sent to you.

insaneoctane

15th July 2010, 04:40

bump.
I wish this problem would go away, but everytime I think I've solved it, it comes back.

Summary of problem: I have a title that plays on my computer (MPC), but when I add it to a MAVCHD compilation, the resultant output files will NOT play on my computer!

Details:
I'm finding this is prominent with my Harry Potter 1-5 titles. I already had processed them with tsMuxeR and broke them into 4gb chunks and was using them successfully with AVCHD Manager. I then decided to switch to MAVCHD, but MAVCHD has not liked these files (neither has my OS, since all but the last M2TS files would not play on my computer "can not render file"). So, I've been scratching my head how to "clean" these files so that I can make a MAVCHD compilation that includes them....well I finally figured it out (I tried transcoding in MAVCHD, tsREmuxer, and various things with tsMuxeR all to NO avail). The solution that worked was to process each of the 4gb M2TS files individually with tsMuxeR and output each file as it's own "blu ray". This created 7 "blu rays" folder structures. Each of these resultant M2TS files would play in the OS fine. Then I used the "join" feature in tsMuxeR and created one big "blu ray" that was 25GB large. This file ALSO plays fine on my OS. MAVCHD has no problem operating on this file. BUT, when I output a MAVCHD compilation with this file as the input and choose PS3 as destination, the resultant 4GB M2TS files WILL NOT PLAY ON MY PC! This is driving me nuts. I'd love to know how to truncate one of these 4GB files so I could upload it to someone and let someone else tell me what the heck is going on!?

Why would a single M2TS file that plays in the OS result in 4GB M2TS files that WONT play in the OS after only being processed by MAVCHD? Help.
:mad:

deank

15th July 2010, 08:30

@setarip: Yep, I got it and enjoyed it :) Thanks!

@insane: Why do you play the files individually and why do you play them with MPC? Use BD player software like nero showtime or arcsoft tmt or PDVD, WinDVD.

Your problem may be caused by broken/wrong version of matroska haali splitter. You can try to change the setting in haali splitter to scan more TS packets before rendering. The default is 45000 I think - try to alter the value, but please use the recommended version. You'll find a link to it on this page: http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/downloads/

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/haali-ts-setting.jpg

deank

15th July 2010, 17:36

A quick note:

multiAVCHD full download (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.1.exe) and standalone goSUP/easySUP updated:

* multiAVCHD: SD_VIDEO mode will process up to 4GB mpeg/mpg files. It may cause video truncating if input mpeg files are >4GB (splitFILE.exe may be required for pre-processing larger files)
* easySUP (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/easySUP.exe): fixed to support UTF-8 microDVD .sub files
* goSUP (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goSUP.exe): fixed to support UTF-8 microDVD .sub files
* splitFILE.exe (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/splitFILE.exe) (30KB) added in full-download.

****

splitFILE.exe is a small CLI tool which performs basic file split operation at user defined size (in MB). It will split at proper packet boundaries for MPEG/MPG, M2TS and TS files. File extension defines packet boundaries. You can download and save it in multiAVCHD folder. The default split is @ 4GB so one can use it by drag&dropping a file to the application icon and avoid command-line prompt operations.
c:\>splitFILE.exe

Splits MPEG/MPG (MPEG2), M2TS and TS files at specified size SPLIT_SIZE_IN_MB
- default split value for SPLIT_SIZE_IN_MB is 4000 (4GB)

Usage: splitFILE.exe source_file [SPLIT_SIZE_IN_MB]

splitFILE.exe input_video.m2ts 400 may produce

input_video_001.m2ts
input_video_002.m2ts
...
input_video_020.m2ts

It could be used to split >4GB MPEG2 files to be used in SD_VIDEO mode for Panasonic Viera output modes.

It will also split M2TS and TS files at proper packet boundaries.

Split precision is 36 962 304 bytes (36 096 KB / 35,25 MB) - the smallest common denominator for all three packet boundaries (TS=188, MPEG2=2048, M2TS=6144).

Dean

pio011

15th July 2010, 18:07

Thanks for the update! But the Log-Window on the main page is way to small for me now....

deank

15th July 2010, 18:10

I don't like it either. There were so many complaints from users with old 1024x768 screen resolution displays, so I was forced to do it.

Avisynth_challenged

15th July 2010, 18:16

A quick note:

multiAVCHD full download (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.1.exe) and standalone goSUP/easySUP updated:

Question: Does "multiAVCHD full download" mean a significant revision, so users should uninstall their earlier baseline 4.1 installations before installing the latest? The word "full" seems to indicate (to me) that this revision is greater than just replacing an older multiAVCHD.exe file with a newer one.

Thanks for your ongoing work and development :)

deank

15th July 2010, 18:19

Full-download means 'multiAVCHD and all other tools'. No, you don't need to perform any uninstall/install even if you decide to download the full-package. You can install it OVER the old one.

You can simply update multiAVCHD (when prompted) and manually download easySUP and goSUP - that's it. :)

Dean

pio011

15th July 2010, 19:51

I don't like it either. There were so many complaints from users with old 1024x768 screen resolution displays, so I was forced to do it.

Errrr....but why not a Windows-Window :p okay seriously now: I mean a window you can drag in any size you like? Like most windows applications have? It's really annoying to scroll from left to right...sorry to say that...

deank

15th July 2010, 19:58

I wish I could implement a separate 'log-window', but the tool I'm using to code multiAVCHD - CalcIT - doesn't support two simultaneously active forms/windows.

Adub

15th July 2010, 22:56

Is there no way to auto-detect the user's resolution and adjust it to the appropriate layout?

insaneoctane

16th July 2010, 03:55

@insane: Why do you play the files individually and why do you play them with MPC? Use BD player software like nero showtime or arcsoft tmt or PDVD, WinDVD.

Your problem may be caused by broken/wrong version of matroska haali splitter. You can try to change the setting in haali splitter to scan more TS packets before rendering. The default is 45000 I think - try to alter the value, but please use the recommended version.

MPC is free, that's all. Plus, the other programs usually have codec-baggage.

Thanks for the suggestion.
I am using the version you recommend (from your link)
I upped the TS pkt from 45,000 up to 500,000 and it still doesn't work.

Is there any easy way to make a sample clip of this file for uploading to anyone willing to look?

wangzongjun

16th July 2010, 07:58

Hi Dean,I think you can give me more help !
This is a TS Packet(The *****.m2ts file created by multiAVCHD):
TS Packet: 5
------------Time code:0X EBB
------------Syn byte:0X47
------------Transport error indicator:0
------------Payload unit start indicator:1
------------Transport priority:0
------------Packet ID:5120(Interactive Graphics)
------------Transport scrambling control:0
------------Adaptation field control:1(no adaptation fields, payload only)
------------Continuity counter:0
PES header
------------Stream id: BD
------------PES packet length: 19326
------------PES priority: FALSE
------------Data alignment: TRUE
------------Copyright: FALSE
------------Original or copy: TRUE
------------PTS flag: TRUE
------------DTS flag: TRUE
------------ESCR flag: FALSE
------------ES rate flag: FALSE
------------DSM trick mode flag: FALSE
------------Copy info flag: FALSE
------------PES CRC flag: FALSE
------------PES extension flag: FALSE
------------PES Header data length:10
------------PTS:42956
------------DTS:19628
Data
------------0X18[Interactive composition Segment]
------------0X4B6E
------------................
(1)How to calculate TS Packet's Time code?
(2)How to calculate PES header's PTS?
(3)How to calculate PES header's DTS?
I read a lot of document, but not very clearly understood,can you give me a more detailed explanation?
Thanks in advance!

deank

16th July 2010, 12:56

You can examine the m2ts files in BDedit. TS packet structure is not of much interest/help. The main thing is the IGS graphics and the way they're muxed into the m2ts file.

***

Build 759:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_resGUI.jpg (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.1.exe)

* [<] [>] buttons above LOG window allow the user to increase/decrease the width of multiAVCHD application window, extending the LOG window :)
* Fixed: audio delay was not applied when processing DVD titles with 'delay' set in title properties
* Fixed: Motion-chapters will follow user-defined chapter links (10x to BZeeme for reminding me of the bug)
* Fixed: goSUP (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goSUP.exe)produces 25fps .sup files instead of 23.976. Ok now.

Dean

pio011

16th July 2010, 15:49

Look great now :-) Thanks!

Capsbackup

17th July 2010, 00:03

I wish I could implement a separate 'log-window', but the tool I'm using to code multiAVCHD - CalcIT - doesn't support two simultaneously active forms/windows.

Build 759:
* [<] [>] buttons above LOG window allow the user to increase/decrease the width of multiAVCHD application window, extending the LOG window :)
Dean

That was a very quick fix! :) Looks good ( better! :p )

unix_sansei

17th July 2010, 23:09

first, this looks like a great package.

here's what i'm wanting to do i have an uncompressed avi file and 6 channels of 192khz/24bit wav audio. i'm looking through the documentation and trying to find where you assign channels?

thanks

Music Fan

18th July 2010, 10:09

If you talk about 6 mono waves, you should maybe make a single multichannel wav before importing it in MultiAVCHD. You can do this with WaveWizard.

deank

18th July 2010, 13:12

Build 760:

* [x] Create named chapters option in MENU/Advanced tab - applicable for [strict] mode, too.

An option I promised few months ago [Named chapters]:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_chapters.jpg

User can use \n control character in Chapter_name to enter more than one line of text.

plus an option to create NEW chapter menu style with BIG chapter thumbnails and additional space for scenes/chapter names. :)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_chaps_4.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_chaps_3.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_named_chaps_2.jpg

Dean

Capsbackup

18th July 2010, 15:26

Excellent looking addition deank! :)

I tried multiAVCHD in re-author mode on a title that has IG stream for the menu. I was trying to reduce the Blu-ray to BD5, AVCHD.
My first attempt, I used transcode on all 8 titles, 4 features and 4 menu m2ts files, blanking 3 warnings and adverts. The resulting backup would not display the button highlights, presumably since tsMuxeR will not support IG streams.
My second attempt, I chose to only transcode the 4 video files to reduce there size, and left the the menu m2ts files as is. Though the button highlights now work and I did appear to create a successful BD5 backup, after burning to DVD+RW and testing on my Sony S360, the audio on the menus is not playing back correctly, but stutters every second or so. Also, at these stutters, I see my receiver stereo lights flash with these stutters.
My thought is, though these menu m2ts files are still pictures and not motion menus, the bitrate is above AVCHD requirements, thus causing this. The video, being a still picture, does not display any noticeable glitch.
Could this be my problem?
Is there any way to reencode these type of IG menus, and be able to keep the button highlights?
I do not have a problem if I keep the original menus and burn to BD-RE, only when trying to keep them and use DVD media. :confused:

deank

18th July 2010, 15:31

You should never allow multiAVCHD re-encode playlists marked as [menu MP]. It means the IGS is muxed into the m2ts and it will be lost after encoding. Use it only with [menu SP] (sub-path) menu playlists. In fact - I think multiAVCHD should gray-out the 'blank' button when you mark [menu MP] playlist.

About the stuttering - I get the same receiver 'flashes' when bitrate is too high and media cannot serve it. I don't think we can do much about it. If you test with software player there should be no stutter, nor when using BD-R(E) as you said.

Dean

// Also DVD-RW has lower access/read rate than regular DVD-R (I think).

flaviometal

18th July 2010, 15:40

EXCELENT addition, Dean! Good for a show with song names chapters! :thanks:

Capsbackup

18th July 2010, 15:48

You should never allow multiAVCHD re-encode playlists marked as [menu MP]. It means the IGS is muxed into the m2ts and it will be lost after encoding. Use it only with [menu SP] (sub-path) menu playlists.

About the stuttering - I get the same receiver 'flashes' when bitrate is too high and media cannot serve it. I don't think we can do much about it. If you test with software player there should be no stutter, nor when using BD-R(E) as you said.

Dean

I figured the menu re-encode was not a good idea, which was confirmed by testing the backup. :( However, I also suspected that for AVCHD, bitrates need to be reduced, so it would be necessary.
You are correct about the software player test, which is why I thought, initially, I had created a good backup. My ultimate goal for my backups is to burn to optical media, which is why I may not have the overall success rate of others, since playback on standalones requirements are different. :)
Oh well, another learning experience! :p

Capsbackup

18th July 2010, 15:55

I was able to keep the original main menu only, minus the IG, and use multiAVCHD to create a full backup to BD5, using the Carousel motion menu, and some creative button highlight alignments to match the buttons of the original main menu, and this works perfectly! :)

bc55

18th July 2010, 17:02

Hi all,

please excuse me for posting a very basic question, but I have not found a complete, step-by-step explanation on how to do this so far, and I believe I am not getting the best results as a result.

I recently installed the full retail version of CoreAVC. Everything went fine, even installed the latest NVidia drivers & CUDA support.

On setup, you can set CoreAVC to be the preferred codec in DirectShow, I believe, so it overrules any other codecs.

When I now re-encode an M2TS file in MultiAVCHD, is there any way of forcing it to use CoreAVC, or should I be seeing something to that effect anywhere, should it say COREAVC is being used anywhere ?

If anyone would be so kind to tell me the exact steps I have to perform, I'm assuming possibly in Haali Media Splitter and / or FFDShow, to make sure only CoreAVC is being used in the future ?

I'm guessing my re-encoding is going to take less time using CoreAVC, right ?!

Cheers

BC55:)

deank

18th July 2010, 17:25

I'm guessing my re-encoding is going to take less time using CoreAVC, right ?!

I doubt that. Avisynth serving + x264 encoding takes most of the overall completion time. No matter what your decoder is, the difference will be insignificant.

Dean

bc55

18th July 2010, 17:41

I doubt that. Avisynth serving + x264 encoding takes most of the overall completion time. No matter what your decoder is, the difference will be insignificant.

Dean

Oh, well, too bad. I figured this CUDA stuff would access my 4 cores better and speed it up a bit.

I'd still like to know how to set up CoreAVC correctly, though.

Any specialists out there ?

Cheers

BC55

unix_sansei

18th July 2010, 21:19

If you talk about 6 mono waves, you should maybe make a single multichannel wav before importing it in MultiAVCHD. You can do this with WaveWizard.

thanks i'll look at wavewizard. i can output a 6ch wav in one file from audition but that still leaves how do you assign channels? how does blu-ray decoder know that say channel 1 is left, channel 2 is right, channel 3 is center, etc is this in the blu-ray spec??? i'll google it.

chompy

19th July 2010, 08:30

Hi deank,

First of all thanks again for this great program…

Now a request: Is there any chance that you could add an option to play an alternative playlist according to the players default language / audio selected in config menu?

The idea is, I have two playlists (seamless branched) one has some m2ts with texts in one language and the other has them with another language, one playlist should be the default that will always play apart from when your player has as default the language corresponding to the second playlist or when you select this second language in config menu.

Thanks

JoeH

19th July 2010, 09:17

No progress there... It puzzles me why Panasonic won't play multiAVCHD new menus.

I have no way to test directly, but I wonder if BD Rebuilder full-backups written to DVD5/9 work in Panasonic players.

I wish I could run a test but I will be out until mid September. If no one has done so by then I'll test then.

Music Fan

19th July 2010, 11:47

I wish I could run a test but I will be out until mid September. If no one has done so by then I'll test then.
It won't play this in full backup mode, you have to chose movie only and BD5 for Panasonic players, because BD Rebuilder's BD25's structure is a little bit different of its BD5 structure, even in movie only mode.
And BD Rebuilder keeps only one title in movie only mode (when I tried it a few months ago), which means that if you wan't to keep more than one title, you should author this project with MultiAVCHD.

Music Fan

19th July 2010, 11:53

thanks i'll look at wavewizard. i can output a 6ch wav in one file from audition but that still leaves how do you assign channels? how does blu-ray decoder know that say channel 1 is left, channel 2 is right, channel 3 is center, etc is this in the blu-ray spec??? i'll google it.
I believe it's explained in Audition's manual, or it creates itself the name of each channels (front right, center, ...) when you make a 5.1 project and then you put each mono wave on the corresponding line and it makes the good assignment when you export the multichannel wave.

deank

19th July 2010, 17:33

A small sample structure for those of you who were never able to create motion menu + motion title thumb + big named motion chapters menu: AVCHD_MOTION_CHAPS.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407822632/AVCHD_MOTION_CHAPS.rar.html) (110MB). The structure is fully operational - the main title video is trimmed (1 second only).

unix_sansei

19th July 2010, 21:00

source is uncompress avi file,
codec v210
Optibase VideoPump 10-bit 4:2:2 Component Y'CbCr

when loaded i get Video Unsupported in red but preview works. is this a bug with this codec?

unix_sansei

19th July 2010, 21:56

source is uncompress avi file,
codec v210
Optibase VideoPump 10-bit 4:2:2 Component Y'CbCr

when loaded i get Video Unsupported in red but preview works. is this a bug with this codec?

i also tried
codec (_RGB)
BI_RGB Raw Bitmap

and when previewing it crashed with user32.dll error

i run XP sp3

deank

20th July 2010, 08:18

Unsupported means "Unsupported for direct authoring". multiAVCHD will have to re-encode the file to make it Blu-ray/AVCHD compliant.

Adub

20th July 2010, 16:16

Oh, well, too bad. I figured this CUDA stuff would access my 4 cores better and speed it up a bit.

I'd still like to know how to set up CoreAVC correctly, though.

Any specialists out there ?

Cheers

BC55

I think you are getting confused. CUDA is there to harness the power of the GPU (your graphics card). It has nothing to do with harnessing your 4 cores.

However, CoreAVC does offer multithreading support, so that would provide better harnessing of your 4 cores.

Edit:
And Dean, thanks for the adjustable log window plus named Chapters! You rock man!

Capsbackup

21st July 2010, 18:24

Hi deank, I recently made a full movie backup to BD5 from BD-RB, another one of those Universal titles I have had trouble with, and ran it thru multiAVCHD in re-author mode to add external audio.
On this BD-RB backup, I selected to keep the PiP from both the main movie, which had two - 480P, PiP tracks as well as a DTS Express audio, and one extra deleted scenes track that also had one 480P - PiP track with DTS Express audio.
Upon completion with multiAVCHD, I notice that the PiP for both tracks were not kept. :confused:
I realize the DTS Express is lost or not available for any backup, but is it normal to remove the PiP video track?
There was an additional .m2ts created because the original had two .mpls playlists associated with the .m2ts, which you had explained this before, but this additional .m2ts file did not have the PiP either.

deank

21st July 2010, 18:35

Right, multiAVCHD doesn't support more than one video track per playlist - it means no PIP videos are preserved in the remuxed playlists.

Capsbackup

22nd July 2010, 02:07

Right, multiAVCHD doesn't support more than one video track per playlist - it means no PIP videos are preserved in the remuxed playlists.

Is this true for Re-author mode too?

... I just checked a previous BD-RB backup that included PiP and DD Plus secondary audio, which I used multiAVCHD, in Re-author mode, to remove/blank warnings only, and multiAVCHD retained the PiP track as well as the DD Plus audio.
I will assume, but please confirm, that if I choose to remux an external audio track to a mpls/m2ts that has PiP, then "it means no PIP videos are preserved in the remuxed playlists".
However, if the mpls/m2ts with PiP is not touched, but only warnings are blanked, multiAVCHD will retain the PiP within the mpls/m2ts upon Re-author? ( Since it obviously did! ):)

EDIT:
Just confirmed again that PiP is retained in Re-author mode as long as the mpls/m2ts file with PiP is not touched. :cool:

wormraper

22nd July 2010, 03:15

I'm having an interesting problem. I use MultiAVCHD a lot for converting 1080p and 720p files all the time to avchd to play on my ps3. However I also have some standard def mkv's that I'd like to play on my ps3 but need to convert to avchd first.

However on the standard def stuff when I convert to AVCHD and transcode (or even when I don't) the audio is drastically out of sync with the video. However this is never the case with 1080p or 720p files. I've noticed that it does this with MultiAVCHD and MKV2VOB as well so It's not just a program glitch I'm guessing. Anyone care to shed any light on the situation??

wangzongjun

22nd July 2010, 07:32

Hi Dean,sorry to trouble you again.I use muitiAVCHD to create blu-ray menu, and then parse the file 93001.m2ts(IGS). With Pelican9‘s help, I have this file's structure more clearly, now I parse the 93001.m2ts[interactive segment], and then create my own menu, but I encountered some problem.I just want to make a simple menu(one page,one BOG,one button(auto_action = TRUE)),tell you the process of modification.

First, I analyze the structure of your IGS
1)In the source 93001.m2ts,it has one interactive segment,one palette segment and a lot of object segments.I need to change the interactive segment ,because it is so complex.The interactive segment contains 4 menu pages.
2)In the first page[page id : 0],it contains one BOG[ two buttons]:
http://www.moandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Page0.JPG
3)the third page seventh buton's[Page id:2,Button id:6] command:
http://www.moandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/SetButtonPage62.JPG
4)If copy third page seventh buton's [Page id:2,Button id:6] command to first page first button[Page id:0,Button id:0], when loading menu it will anto play title 1. I did the test,it is right.
http://www.moandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Change-Page0.JPG
Now ,I do the change:
I replace you IGS with my own IGS(one page,one BOG,one button(auto_action = TRUE))
http://www.moandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/M2TSError1.JPG
TS packet is :
http://www.moandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/M2TS-Packet.JPG
Also I do not change the TS's time-code and PES's PTS/DTS .
But it does not work anymore? Where I am wrong? Give me some advice!
Thanks in advance!

wangzongjun

22nd July 2010, 09:45

HAha,the problem has been found.PES packet's length is wrong.
http://www.moandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/PES-Packet-Error.JPG
Thanks Pelican9,thanks multiAVCHD and BDEdit!
If you are also studying the structure of IGS, the above picture will be of great help to you.

deank

22nd July 2010, 12:59

Build 761:

* [x] Advanced subtitle processing is rewritten, so avs2bdnxml is no longer used. The algorithm is the same as goSUP and now advanced subtitles are created 5 to 20 times faster than before.

* 3 free-text labels added in MENU tab and in CUSTOM menu / TEMPLATES with options for font/color/outline/size and X/Y position:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_freetext.jpg

* New options for chapter thumbnail generation. It is now possible to select DIFFERENT time code to be used for chapter extraction. There is a new field in [PROPERTIES] (colored in blue), where you can set the time-code for the thumbnail. You can set it manually or using the [Chapter thumbnail] button, which is below the chapter list. If you click the BLUE box, multiAVCHD will preview the entered time-code.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_chth.jpg

In the screenshot you can see that the first chapter points to 00:00:00.000, but for the menu, multiAVCHD will extract the frame (from the preview) at 00:00:10.101.

deank

22nd July 2010, 16:20

Is this true for Re-author mode too?

EDIT:
Just confirmed again that PiP is retained in Re-author mode as long as the mpls/m2ts file with PiP is not touched. :cool:

Yep. If a playlist is not remuxed, PIP is kept. :)

deank

22nd July 2010, 16:41

The latest update supports extended chapter format, suggested by Cela in this thread (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18&start=858):

*.chp/*.txt
=====================

hh:mm:ss.mss [TAB] chp-# [TAB] chp-text [TAB] chp-icon-hh:mm:ss.mss

For example:

00:00:00.000TAB1TABStart Grand Canyon
00:00:19.000TAB2TABFly the Rocks
00:00:50.000TAB3TABWater in the CanyonTAB00:00:50.500
00:00:58.000TAB4TABWild water canoeing
00:01:13.000TAB5TABCalm water canoeingTAB00:01:14.000
00:01:22.000TAB6TABWaterfalls
00:01:39.000TAB7TABExit

which for example will make chapter 3 to play from 00:00:50.000, use a chapter icon captured at 00:00:50.500 and use a chapter name "3 Water in Canyon".

Dean

pio011

22nd July 2010, 19:08

Thanks for the recent great update(s). Here's another suggestion: I would really appreciate, if I could set the meta picture and the meta title stored in AVCHD\BDMV\META\DL direct in mAVCHD. Right now it is a bit annoying (because I keep forgetting it most of the time) to this "by hand". What do you think? :-) :thanks:

deank

22nd July 2010, 19:20

I guess I can do that :) - thanks for the reminder.

Capsbackup

22nd July 2010, 23:29

deank

23rd July 2010, 08:01

Is this "JACKET" picture/info shows in any other player than Playstation 3?

Also, with the [Named chapters] I'll now export them in the META files in Blu-ray mode with their proper names. Until now they were exported as "Chapter X [HH:MM:SS.MSS]".

deank

23rd July 2010, 11:29

Quick note for the latest update:

* BD Jacket image option in output selection screen (after you click start). It will be used to generate two images for META\DL (640x360 and 416x240)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_output.jpg

* BDMV\META\ES\esmt_???_?????.xml files now contain chapter names set for each title.

* Compilation name: the text "multiAVCHD" will not be added as BD-ROM title/compilation name

* In title properties/CHAPTERS tab:
- Chapter time-code box can be edited. Clicking the box will seek the frame in the preview
- Chapter [Export] button will prompt the user if one wants to include CHAPTER NAMES and CHAPTER ICON-TIMECODES in the exported chapter file

* In AUTHOR tab (video&chapters): new option [x] Chapter icon between chapters which will cause multiAVCHD to select a chapter time-code for the thumbnail between the current and the next chapter. For example:

Chapter 1: 00:00:00.000
Chapter 2: 00:01:00.000
Chapter 3: 00:11:00.000

will give you chapter icons at:

Chapter 1: 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:30.000
Chapter 2: 00:01:00.000 --> 00:06:00.000
Chapter 3: 00:11:00.000 --> ...

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_chMID.jpg

Dean

Capsbackup

23rd July 2010, 15:34

Is this "JACKET" picture/info shows in any other player than Playstation 3?

Picture does not show in my Sony S360, only the title name.
This is what I see when I stop the Blu-ray player, which is why it will be nice to see the name of my disc, or whatever I choose. :)
I was just editing the xml file in the DL folder of the meta folder before, as you suggested a while back. And that does work fine, when I remember. :p

deank

23rd July 2010, 17:16

You can now set "Compilation name" and it should show in your BD player. No need to edit the xml manually. Right? :)

Adub

23rd July 2010, 21:07

Damn Dean.... just damn. You are a god right now.

Capsbackup

23rd July 2010, 23:20

You can now set "Compilation name" and it should show in your BD player. No need to edit the xml manually. Right? :)

I will have to try this out! :cool:

pio011

24th July 2010, 08:46

Thanks Dean! You're the Man :-)
I am gonna try this out now!

colinhunt

24th July 2010, 10:40

Installed the latest version and attempted to re-author a BD-RB output by removing two AC3 soundtracks and replacing them with DTS-HD MA tracks. Got this:

[12:12:58] Added Blu-ray disc in re-author mode.
[12:12:58] In re-author mode multiAVCHD funcionality is restricted.

[12:18:35] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[12:18:35] Check failed!

[12:18:35] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.1 (build 761)
[12:18:35] Selected output mode: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)

[12:18:35] Entering Blu-ray re-author mode...
[12:18:35] *** Transferring structure...
[12:18:35] *** Processing media files...
[12:18:35] *** [00000.mpls] - Remuxing playlist...
[12:18:35] Error obtaining information! (tsMuxeR / 00000.mpls)...
[12:18:35] Detected main PI#000: 00000.m2ts, Duration: [01:35:57.791], [PTS: 00:10:00.000 / 01:45:57.791]
[12:18:35] Using external audio: A_DTS (language: jpn / delay: 0)
[12:18:35] Using external audio: A_DTS (language: eng / delay: 0)
[12:18:35] Using subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[12:18:35] No valid information found! (00000.mpls)...
[12:18:35] *** Failed!
[12:18:35] *** Checking playlists and media dependencies...
[12:18:36] *** [00000.m2ts] Error!

[12:18:36] Re-authoring completed...
[12:18:36] Done!

Tried it a couple of times, with the same result, and decided to rebuild the disc in MultiAVCHD from scratch. Dropped in the VID_00262.AVS.264 video file from BD-RB's temp directory and noticed MultiAVCHD doesn't really like those .264 files for some reason. It doesn't show a preview in Properties and seems to be guessing about movie length. Anyways, it allowed me to drop in the two DTS-HD MA tracks, one english .sup track and start the compilation process. But almost instantly I saw this in the log window:

[12:27:32] Selected output mode: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)

[12:27:32] Processing one title...
[12:27:32] Existing F:\mAVCHD_OUT\BDRA\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[12:27:32] Output will be written to: F:\mAVCHD_OUT\BDRA-20100724-122732
[12:27:32] Processing (D:\_BDRB_OUTPUT\WORKFILES\VID_00262.AVS.264)...
[12:27:32] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:4).
[12:27:32] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=3
[12:27:33] DTS-HRA, DTS-MA will not be reencoded.
[12:27:33] Adding DTS audio track (ID#1)
[12:27:34] DTS-HRA, DTS-MA will not be reencoded.
[12:27:34] Adding DTS audio track (ID#1)
[12:27:34] Total of 3 tracks found in this file.
[12:27:34] Adding subtitles (00262.track_4608.sup) (eng)
[12:27:34] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[12:27:34] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR () output:
===============================================================================
PROCESSING ERROR: No data received from tsMuxeR!
Trying again...
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=99:99:99 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\_BDRB_OUTPUT\WORKFILES\VID_00262.AVS.264", insertSEI, contSPS, track=0, fps=23.976
A_DTS, "D:\W7ProgramFiles(x86)\MultiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100724\extAUD-1-00262.track.4352.dtshd", track=1, lang=jpn, timeshift=0ms
A_DTS, "D:\W7ProgramFiles(x86)\MultiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100724\extAUD-2-00262.track.4354.dtshd", track=1, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\_BDRB_OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00262.track_4608.sup",lang=eng, fps=23.976
===============================================================================

MultiAVCHD says it's not receiving any data from tsMuxeR at first, but then went on processing the compilation (with that stupid 4GB media split, argh!). What's going on here, I wonder...

Update: Things are getting screwier. I uninstalled MultiAVCHD from drive D: and installed it on C: for which I needed to run the installer as Admin. MultiAVCHD ran from C: even worse, plenty of weird errors and crashes, even when run as Admin. So, another uninstall, followed by a new install on D:. This time I ran the installer as Admin (didn't do that the first time), and started MultiAVCHD as Admin, too. Dragging & dropping a BDMV directory in MultiAVCHD did... nothing. MultiAVCHD does not ask about re-authoring; nothing happens.

What the heck?

pio011

24th July 2010, 17:15

I am trying to put together a compilation of m2ts tracks with mAVCHD. Two tracks were first reencoded with BR-RB. mAVCHD has problems with one track and is giving me wrong asprect ratio - even when I open the track and look in the menu "alter detected propertes" - everything is fine there. Is there a way to patch the header of the file? Or what is wrong? TSmuxer - by the way - is showing the correct AR!

Here's a part from the Log:

[16:59:00] Processing (F:\Rebuilt 1080\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts)...
[16:59:04] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:4).
[16:59:04] Detected display AR: 1:-1
[16:59:04] Display properties: 1920x-1920 (AR:-1)
[16:59:13] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#1)
[16:59:13] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4352)
[16:59:13] Total of 3 tracks found in this file.
[16:59:13] Video height (-1920) not compliant (480/576/720/1080)! Final output may be distorted.
[16:59:13] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[16:59:13] Media split set at 99999MiB point...

deank

24th July 2010, 17:24

Can you post mediainfo for this file?

Do you have mediainfo installation in different language or changed something in tools folder? There was another user with the same problem.

pio011

24th July 2010, 17:38

Can you post mediainfo for this file?

Do you have mediainfo installation in different language or changed something in tools folder? There was another user with the same problem.

Oopos! I forgot I had installed mediainfo once - in german - and I did not know mAVCHD is also using mediainfo. Would you suggest to de-install it? And also: when I load the track in mAVCHD and open it - it takes forever (only with this file!) and I first have to change the fps to 23.976. Then it opens quickly. But the AR seems to be F*** up :-)

Here's the mediainfo log (in english!):

ID : 1
Complete name : G:\movie1080.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 8,32 GiB
Duration : 2h 5min
Overall bit rate : 9 504 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35,5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Ja
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Duration : 2h 5min
Bit rate mode : variabel
Bit rate : 7 660 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 17,5 Mbps
Width : 1 920 Pixel
Height : 1 080 Pixel
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : variabel
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : progressiv
Stream size : 6,86 GiB (82%)
Writing library : x264 core 104 r1677 19df41a
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 /
deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x3 / me=dia / subme=1 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 /
chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 /
deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 /
threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 /
interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 /
b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 /
open_gop=2 / weightp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 /
scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=0 / rc=2pass /
mbtree=0 / bitrate=7660 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 /
qpmin=0 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 /
vbv_maxrate=17500 / vbv_bufsize=14500 / ip_ratio=1.10 /
pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=vbr

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Duration : 2h 5min
Bit rate mode : konstant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 Kanäle
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48,0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 574 MiB (7%)
Language : Deutsch

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Duration : 2h 5min
Bit rate mode : konstant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 Kanäle
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48,0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 574 MiB (7%)
Language : Englisch

bluesin

24th July 2010, 19:10

OK Here goes... first of all i passed the 4 tests in the conversion tester...
now what i am trying to do...
I am using BD_Rebuilder to convert my bluerays to 4-5g file size movie only.
I am then using your AVCHD program to convert those files into standard VIDEO_TS files using the SD_DVD option.
Everything was working great untill about 10 days ago or so... i had converted over 100 blu-rays with no problem.
now after a recent rash of updates i can no longer encode with the audio being in sync witht the movie..
I have done over 100 bluray conversions with no problem but I must admit i am new at this and dont fully understand how to fix this problem.
Any help getting back to easy mode would greatly be appreciated.

P.S. When i play the downconverted 000000.m2ts file created with bd_Rebuilder everything is still in sync

P.S.S. also some of you may ask why i am doing this? I have a media player on my home automation system that integrates all my movies into the system. here is a link to the spec sheet http://www.control4.com/uploads/Products/product_49/Control4_Media_Player.pdf
this is the only way i have found to get my movies to work in the system. If i am doing something wrong or going about this wrong and there is a better way by all means please point me in the right direction. the reason i am doing this is i only have 4tb available and over 500 blurays in my collection so i am figuring about 5gb per movie in space untill i can get more available

I posted in both forums cause i wasnt sure which you prefered.

setarip_old

24th July 2010, 20:59

@bluesin

Hi! I am using BD_Rebuilder to convert my bluerays to 4-5g file size movie only.
I am then using your AVCHD program to convert those files into standard VIDEO_TS files using the SD_DVD option.

Are you aware that, in light of the fact that you are creating "Movie only" files, there is no need to first compress your original BluRay files with BD Rebuilder?

MultiAVCHD can do the compressing and conversion to Standard DVD all at once...

bluesin

25th July 2010, 07:22

its too complicated of an interface VS BD rebuilder.. i have to hunt and find the right file... unless i am not doing something right

pio011

25th July 2010, 16:41

@Deank: Never mind, I have re-encoded the track with multiAVCHD - now it seems to work with the correct AR. Probably BR-DB screwed things up. By the way: the original track was encoded in MPEG2, probably that is the reason, who knows.....

chompy

25th July 2010, 18:01

I know that subtitle files aren't that big, but sometimes blanking some of them (with some more things) is just what a blu-ray needs to fit in a BD-25.

In reauthor mode there's only the option to remove subtitles, but not just blank them (as happens with audio), so if I want to keep subtitle 1 and 5 then, subtitle 5 will end as subtitle #2 if I don't insert three external dummy subtitles when removing subtitles 2, 3 and 4... Could it be possible to add an option to blank subtitles?

Thanks and greetings

bluesin

25th July 2010, 18:20

So can anyone help with the audio issue i posted above? i cant just use avchd if i cant get the audio to sync..

MrVideo

28th July 2010, 03:18

I'd still like to know how to set up CoreAVC correctly, though.

Why are you using coreAVC? Is your graphics card using the latest Nvidia GPU chipset?

If so, you need to look at DGDecNV (http://www.neuron2.net/dgdecnv/dgdecnv.html)

It is, IMHO, a better GPU serving program that works perfectly with AVISynth.

If you aren't using a Nvidia GPU chipset, nevermind!

Capsbackup

28th July 2010, 04:45

deank, I have been experimenting with Carousel motion menus on some AVCHD backups. The style is appealing to me, as it also resembles many Blu-ray menus.
However, I was wondering if it is possible to have that same type of menu that will only display the words for buttons, without the black border at the bottom of the menu?
This way, it would display the full motion menu video on screen, with only the words visible as the button selections.

Also, I have a project with 5 imported mpls/videos. The first in the list is set to hidden, since I want it to be played only at disc start and not included in the menu.
After this first hidden video plays, I want to go to the main menu, for selection of the other four titles. However, my project will only start at the main menu, no intro hidden title ever plays. :confused:
What do I need to do or set to make a title play first when a disc is started, instead of the menu, and after this titles ends it goes to the menu?

deank

28th July 2010, 06:09

Take a look at:

.\multiAVCHD\templates\res\Carousel\

There is a file: CM_bott.bmp which is the bottom strip. Edit/resize it to 1x1 and you'll get rid of the bottom line.

About the menu:

[x] Skip top menu playback will make your player play the hidden/first title and then go to the menu.

Dean

Capsbackup

28th July 2010, 06:16

Just realized I forgot to set skip top menu playback, so now it is working. Thanks. :)
I will now check the menu template! :cool:

OK I have found the CM_bott.bmp, it says 1920 x 148. How do you edit to 1x1? :confused:

deank

28th July 2010, 06:23

Download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/CM_bott.BMP) this one and put it in the folder. Make a backup of your file first (if you wish).

Capsbackup

28th July 2010, 06:25

I am not able to get the download, nothing is there to download!

deank

28th July 2010, 06:30

Just right-click and select 'Save link as...'.

Capsbackup

28th July 2010, 06:34

Excellent!! Thank you Dean. This is definately what I was looking for. :)

Capsbackup

28th July 2010, 06:52

Is there a way to have a larger highlight button? Actually, I use Play, Setup, Scenes and Extras as my four button selections. Can I have the entire word "highlight" as a button selection?

deank

28th July 2010, 07:24

No, it is not possible at the moment. multiAVCHD can use only these simple square/rectangle overlays as buttons.

ChldsPlay

29th July 2010, 23:51

Capsbackup

30th July 2010, 03:11

If it is not BD5/9, is it BD25/-R/RE?
What is your playback method, PC, standalone, etc...?
You can use multiAVCHD in re-author mode to keep the Blu ray structure with menus, etc... and if you are burning to BD-R/RE you may not have to reencode all files, only some to fit BD25.
AVCHD, typically to BD5/9 media, will need to be reencoded to a lower bitrate per AVCHD specs for standalone playback. PC playback is more forgiving.
So, yes it will work for that, and depending on your method of playback, will determine what steps from multiAVCHD you will need to perform.

deank

30th July 2010, 08:28

I'm wanting to convert a blu-ray to AVCHD and I want to keep the menus as well. I don't want to have to recreate the menus from scratch.

I don't want BD5/BD9 either or I'd just use BDRB.

Will this program work for that?

Why AVCHD (written to BD25)?

The answer to your question is simple - use BD-Rebuilder to get Blu-ray backup. There is no point in creating AVCHD disc, especially when using BD media.

deank

30th July 2010, 12:27

In build 762:

* Warning when loading files muxed with mkvmerge 4.1/4.2
* Additional check/processing for files with audio tracks with wrong sample rate (48/96/192kHz supported only)
* Fixed chapters/thumbnail links for thumbs 13-96
* Advanced subtitle processing fix (and goSUP, too) - sometimes the last SRT line is not imported if no CR+LF is present as last line EOL

Dean

ChldsPlay

30th July 2010, 13:34

I'll still be using dvd media, but don't want the compatibility issues that some players have with bd5/9 compared with basic avchd.

deank

30th July 2010, 13:45

For the task you can use BD-Reauthor mode in multiAVCHD and select [AVCHD relaxed] output mode (after you click [START]).

setarip_old

30th July 2010, 21:31

@deank

Hi!

As I mentioned to you via one-way email, it will be interesting to see if the "Cinavia" watermarking flourishes - and if it does, how HD-DVD (more complete, including chaptering, etc) may prove to be a godsend.

If nothing else, I'm tenacious ;>}

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 06:19

OK I have found the CM_bott.bmp, it says 1920 x 148. How do you edit to 1x1? :confused:

I know that you are currently functioning (the program silly, not you), but the answer to your query (for the interest of potentially others), is to use a program like Photoshop and change the canvas size to a width of 1 and a height of 1. Any image editing program that can change the canvas size and/or the image size can be used.

Sounds like this might want to be a checkbox in the future: [x] display menu button underline

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 06:25

I'll still be using dvd media, but don't want the compatibility issues that some players have with bd5/9 compared with basic avchd.

I'm confused, AFAIK BD5/9 media doesn't exist. The smallest capacity you can get is BD25.

Don't you really mean DVD5/9?

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 06:30

* Warning when loading files muxed with mkvmerge 4.1/4.2

I must be missing something. What is wrong with mkvmerge 4.1/4.2?

deank

31st July 2010, 08:46

As I mentioned to you via one-way email, it will be interesting to see if the "Cinavia" watermarking flourishes - and if it does, how HD-DVD (more complete, including chaptering, etc) may prove to be a godsend.

:cool: There is absolutely no documentation and it is very hard to keep hopes about this implementation. Chapter/Seeking information is quite similar to what's found in SD DVD IFO files, so may be someone with that knowledge can help.

I'm confused, AFAIK BD5/9 media doesn't exist. The smallest capacity you can get is BD25.

Don't you really mean DVD5/9?

People call DVD5/DVD9 discs with Blu-ray content BD5/BD9.

I must be missing something. What is wrong with mkvmerge 4.1/4.2?

Check here (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1518) and here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1421586#post1421586).

Dean

Groucho2004

31st July 2010, 11:42

Some improvements in the latest build (you'll need to use multiUPDATE.exe):

* Download (http://www.iol.ie/~schubert/AVSInfo.zip)this nice small (50kb) CLI tool from another doom9 user (Groucho2004) (link to the post) (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154870) and extract AVSInfo.exe in your multiAVCHD\tools folder. This may greatly improve the speed for all image processing/visualization in multiAVCHD. Until now x264 was used for executing avisynth scripts and sometimes caused 'x264 crashed' errors, but with avsinfo it shouldn't happen. Plus, it is much faster and doesn't need colorspace conversion at the end of each avs script. The tool is included in the full-download.

* Small fix: menu font color setting will be available even when [-] Create top menu is not selected (useful for title-list menu setting when no main top menu is created).

* Fixed: sometimes the crop zone when using zoom (%H) in [transcode] window will cause slight AR distortion. It is fixed now + some more zoom %s.

Dean

Hi Dean,

I only noticed now that you're bundling my utility with your software. No problem there but what exactly are you using it for? I only wrote this tool to display clip properties and the speed of scripts.

deank

31st July 2010, 12:06

deank

31st July 2010, 12:17

Important note for the latest update:

The value for Non-HD audio bitrate in Subtitles&Audio tab is now used in different manner. I think pio011 or daberti asked for a similar function

* Default value is 640. You may want to check your setting and put 640 there.
* During processing of SD audio tracks multiAVCHD will check their bitrate against the one set in "Non-HD audio..." box. If audio bitrate is > then the one set, it will be re-encoded. If bitrate is < it will be left alone or IF re-encoding is required (in case of AAC/MP3...) multiAVCHD will use the closest/lowest bitrate possible and will not use Non-HD audio bitrate value.

For example:
Non-HD audio bitrate: [448]

1) Source audio: AC3 640kbps will be re-encoded to 448kbps
2) Source audio: MP3 320kbps will be re-encoded to AC3 320kbps (and not to 448 as set in Non-HD audio box).
3) Source audio: AC3 384kbps will not be re-encoded

Dean

crl2007

31st July 2010, 15:11

I must be missing something. What is wrong with mkvmerge 4.1/4.2?

You have to set from "Extra Options" the Compression setting to none, for ALL the streams ( video, audio, subtitles ). This thing causes a lot of headaches.

Groucho2004

31st July 2010, 15:59

I'm using it to execute avisynth scripts in multiAVCHD, to generate subtitle PNGs (from avisynth scripts) in goSUP and multiAVCHD.

Before I was using x264 to execute scripts, but avsinfo is faster, since it doesn't do frame-lookahead, loads quickly, doesn't need YV12 colorspace conversion and uses less memory and is just 50kb. :)

Dean :)

You should use this for that purpose:
http://www.iol.ie/~schubert/avsexec.zip

This has no user interface (apart from messageboxes for error handling) and just steps through a script frame by frame.

Also, it uses the proper Avisynth API and not VFW.

Let me know if it works.

deank

31st July 2010, 16:11

I'll stick with avsinfo.exe atm. It works as expected and very pleased that you put out such a small nice app.

Thanks!

Dean :)

//

There is a bug in avsexec.exe. It will not accept a file if parsed as "file.avs", but will work with file.avs. "file name.avs" works, too. I believe the quote symbols when there is no space in file/path causes troubles.

deank

31st July 2010, 16:32

* Media list - back to normal colors (not blue/white)
* Properties/Chapters: SET changed to APPLY, USE changed to LOAD, warning pop-up when user clicks 'load' to use a chapter file
* Properties/Audio: hovering with the mouse will show the external audio track file name
* Properties/External Subtitles: hovering with the mouse will show the external subtitle track file name
* Transcode: bitrate estimation suggestions will follow the latest change and will use the lower bitrate for calculation of final filesize

Dean

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 17:11

People call DVD5/DVD9 discs with Blu-ray content BD5/BD9.

Sigh!

Check here (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1518) and here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1421586#post1421586).

Thanks. will do.

deank

31st July 2010, 17:15

Sigh!

In multiAVCHD all terms are media-related, so there is no such thing as BD5/BD9, but DVD5/DVD9 discs, SDHC, USB/HDD sticks and disks, BD25/BD50 discs, etc.

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 17:31

Originally Posted by deank
Some improvements in the latest build (you'll need to use multiUPDATE.exe)

I don't know where this quote was found (this forum or Dean's forum), but my question about it is this: if one lets multiAVCHD look for a new version, does it grab the complete distribution or just the multiAVCHD piece?

If not, can multiAVCHD be told to grab everything in order to install any new programs, like AVSInfo.exe?

deank

31st July 2010, 17:33

multiUPDATE.exe updates multiAVCHD.exe only. I can't afford full update of all tools during the update process.

Either way, multiAVCHD rarely requires full-download (may be once in 2-3 months) + the download link is to videohelp.com (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.1.exe) and the download speed is okay, without ads, banners, waiting time, etc.

http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.1.exe

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 17:40

In multiAVCHD all terms are media-related, so there is no such thing as BD5/BD9, but DVD5/DVD9 discs, SDHC, USB/HDD sticks and disks, BD25/BD50 discs, etc.

If you were thinking that I was implying that you were using the term within multiAVCHD, I wasn't. Sorry if I misled. The sigh is because so often words are used to describe things/actions that are incorrect.

Another example is when one uses their video camera to go film something, or that they were filming their vacation. I'd like to see those people put film in their video camcorders. :D Hell, with most of today's video cameras you can't even video tape either. :D

deank

31st July 2010, 18:00

Well, it's like the old CompuServe/Genie/AOL "You've got mail" notice (back in the 90s) which definitely was for an e-mail message and not for a peek into the snail-mail box. :)

Groucho2004

31st July 2010, 18:21

There is a bug in avsexec.exe. It will not accept a file if parsed as "file.avs", but will work with file.avs. "file name.avs" works, too. I believe the quote symbols when there is no space in file/path causes troubles.

Ooops, fixed. Please re-download.

deank

31st July 2010, 18:25

Thanks. I'll do some tests to check if there is any speed difference and if there is, I'll replace avsinfo with avsexec.

Thanks for looking into it.

Dean :cool:

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 18:51

multiUPDATE.exe updates multiAVCHD.exe only.

So, what does multiUPDATE.exe update do that multiAVCHD.exe doesn't, or vice-versa?

Here comes another silly question... if a user isn't an avid reader of either forum, how would that person know to go and download AVSInfo.exe if the autoupdate of multiAVCHD doesn't go and get it?

Now I'm really confused. I went to add AVSinfo to my multiAVCHD tools and there was an older version already there.

setarip_old

31st July 2010, 19:27

@deank

Hi! (NOT about HD-DVD for a change ;>})

I'm sure I'm overlooking something obvious but, in the audio settings, is there an option to extract the DTS core from a DTS-MA audiostream of an .MT2S or .MKV file?

deank

31st July 2010, 19:36

So, what does multiUPDATE.exe update do that multiAVCHD.exe doesn't, or vice-versa?

Here comes another silly question... if a user isn't an avid reader of either forum, how would that person know to go and download AVSInfo.exe if the autoupdate of multiAVCHD doesn't go and get it?

Now I'm really confused. I went to add AVSinfo to my multiAVCHD tools and there was an older version already there.

I don't know why you decided that you need avsinfo.exe. I added it into the package more than a month ago. Without it multiAVCHD will work too (it checks if it is there and uses it, otherwise it uses the tools it used before).

If one is not an avid user/reader, he'll get a message in the LOG if a tool is required or an option will be 'grayed-out' if a tool is missing - OR - one can always download the complete package and OVERWRITE the installation he has.

@deank
I'm sure I'm overlooking something obvious but, in the audio settings, is there an option to extract the DTS core from a DTS-MA audiostream of an .MT2S or .MKV file?

Click the title-name in Media TAB (or click [properties]). There is an AUDIO tab where you have [x] Core only option.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_core_only.jpg

The option is per-track, not per-title and available only when HD audio stream is selected.

Dean

setarip_old

31st July 2010, 20:17

As my mother used to say, "Take your eyes in your hands and look!"

Talk about hiding in plain sight ;>}

Thanks - But why CAN'T it be another "per-title" option? It only takes effect if such a track is discovered, just like the other default audio settings, doesn't it?

deank

31st July 2010, 20:20

It certainly can, but most people want per-title options and not per-compilation.

There is an option in Subtitles&Audio to convert HD audio to AC3, which should give similar results to what you need. :)

Dean

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 20:21

I don't know why you decided that you need avsinfo.exe.

Because of post 6183 from Groucho2004.

I'm still curious as to the difference between multiUPDATE.exe and multiAVCHD.exe.

deank

31st July 2010, 20:37

multiAVCHD executes multiUPDATE.exe when it needs update.

multiUPDATE downloads multiAVCHD.rar, extracts it and launches the extracted multiAVCHD.exe.

Dean

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 20:51

multiAVCHD executes multiUPDATE.exe when it needs update.

multiUPDATE downloads multiAVCHD.rar, extracts it and launches the extracted multiAVCHD.exe.

Ah. Thanks for the info.

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 21:11

I don't know if the updater logs what it does somewhere, but it had issues with the first place that it tried to go to and failed with the next 4 mirrors.

For example:

Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#2
HttpSendRequest error
HttpQueryInfo: 12019
Error! (0)

The HttpQuery error line only showed up with mirror #2.

It seems to be downloading from mirror #5, as there are no errors, and nothing else to indicate that it is, or isn't, working.

The suggestion:

Don't put out a message that it is downloading unless it is really downloading, i.e., the connection was fully established and the file it is after is really being downloaded. In other words, something like:

Trying next mirror...
URL: Mirror#2
Downloading...

Thanks.

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 21:22

Here is the complete session log:

Initialising...
Checking...
Downloading...
[14:56:38] Connecting...
[14:56:40] Connect failed!
[14:56:40] Connecting...
[14:56:47] Connect failed!
[14:56:47] Connecting...
[14:56:49] Connect failed!
Error! (500)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#1
HttpSendRequest error
Error! (0)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#2
HttpSendRequest error
HttpQueryInfo: 12019
Error! (0)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#3
HttpSendRequest error
Error! (0)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#4
HttpSendRequest error
Error! (0)
Trying next mirror...
Downloading...
URL: Mirror#5
InternetReadFile failed for http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD.exe
Done!

After the done, another updater GUI poped up with the following message:

(RT) Application "C:\multiAVCHD\multiAVCHD.exe" cannot be executed - Line 148.

Sure enough, multiAVCHD is broken. I'll have to install from a previous download and try the update again.

Is there a way to make the updating process more robust so that the current installed version isn't corrupted?

UPDATE: Tried it again. This time it started the download from mirror #2, But this time got the InternetReadFile failure on the RAR file. multiAVCHD.exe gone again.

Third try resulted in the same failure at mirror #2. Going to go fetch the latest version manually.

Capsbackup

31st July 2010, 21:56

This just happened to me too. I had another copy, so just copied that into multiAVCHD folder, and when it opens and asks for an update, just say no.
I am sure deank will correct this soon!

setarip_old

31st July 2010, 22:23

Sure enough, multiAVCHD is broken. I'll have to install from a previous download and try the update again.Just change "multiAVCHD.exe_backup" back to "multiAVCHD.exe"...

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 22:24

... and when it opens and asks for an update, just say no.

Since it is the latest, the update question is not asked :D

Don't know why the updater has so much trouble, since a manual download went real smooth.

setarip_old

31st July 2010, 22:26

@deank There is an option in Subtitles&Audio to convert HD audio to AC3I was already aware of that - and that option is what led me to ask the question about MA to core ;>}

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 22:27

Just change "multiAVCHD.exe_backup" back to "multiAVCHD.exe"...

Oh, didn't know it existed. If the updater knows that it failed, maybe it should put it back. In reality, the file shouldn't be renamed until it is known that a good download was completed and that it has what it needs to do the install.

Just a thought.

setarip_old

31st July 2010, 22:32

In reality, the file shouldn't be renamed until it is known that a good download was completed and that it has what it needs to do the install.If it wasn't renamed BEFORE the downloading began, it would be OVERWRITTEN - and then you'd have no fallback.

Now that you're aware of the file's (probable) existence, why don't you simply try what I suggested?

Capsbackup

31st July 2010, 22:43

Just change "multiAVCHD.exe_backup" back to "multiAVCHD.exe"...

I was not aware of this, but after checking I do not have this file in my multiAVCHD folder!

MrVideo

31st July 2010, 22:45

If it wasn't renamed BEFORE the downloading began, it would be OVERWRITTEN - and then you'd have no fallback.

Not really. As indicated in a Dean posting, the RAR file is downloaded. It can be extracted in a temp location. Once the RAR extraction took place without error, then the executable can be renamed and the install begun.

Now that you're aware of the file's (probable) existence, why don't you simply try what I suggested?

No need, since I downloaded the latest version manually and did the install, as I posted above. But, I'll know the next time this happens.

Still doesn't mean that the automatic updating process can't be made more bulletproof.

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 03:37

Ya, I know, I've been posting for a while, but haven't had the time to actually sit down and work on a project. Well, today I am.

I have the latest build (762).

I encoded the H.264 file myself, creating a 1080p23.976 MKV wrapped program. The audio is AC3 - 2.0.

##########

I just crashed mAVCHD getting it to use a chapter list text file. It complained about not being able to read all of the delimited text. It is a text file that was created by VideoReDo and is a simple file with one timecode entry per line. There are eight entries in the format hh:mm:ss:ff. With the frame being 00 through 23.

Why does mAVCHD use 3-place decimals for the frame? That is not industry standard. Is there an option to tell mAVCHD to use the industry timecode standard?

##########

Now I get to start the project over again. This time I will save the project before dealing with the chapter marks. :D

deank

1st August 2010, 08:09

I added HH:MM:SS:FR support - you'll get it in the next update.

multiUPDATE is updated to use different servers.
multiAVCHD will automatically download and update multiUPDATE.

rendez2k

1st August 2010, 09:19

deank - is there any chance you could add an option in fit all to reduce any HD audio to AC3 (as a 1-off setting for that kind of project)? I know theres an overall option for that but for most discs I'm not bothered. However, if I'm trying to fit an MKV on a DVD-5 I do often want to reduce the audio size to get more video bitrate.

Edit: Is fit all even taking the reduce audio setting into account? With it enabled, the bitrate appears to be no different? The suggested DVD5 setting in transcode is much higher than the fit-all suggested bitrate (and the AR appears to be off too!)
http://i29.tinypic.com/xd8k5s.jpg

deank

1st August 2010, 09:41

When dealing with one title only I'd suggest that you use "Bitrate suggestions" option in [transcode] window. There you get quite accurate bitrate values, taking audio conversion into account.

About the AR: use compliant files. If not - open [transcode] and make sure all is set properly. multiAVCHD can't magically always do everything for everyone and every video file - it is not a one-click-application after all. :)

JoeH

1st August 2010, 13:18

You should use this for that purpose:
http://www.iol.ie/~schubert/avsexec.zip

This has no user interface (apart from messageboxes for error handling) and just steps through a script frame by frame.

Also, it uses the proper Avisynth API and not VFW.

Let me know if it works.

What type of speed difference does using AVSEXEC / AVSINFO make? Can it be used by normal users of say, MeGUI or other typical X264 encoding programs to speed things up?

deank

1st August 2010, 14:24

AvsInfo/AvsExec are not for video encoding - simply for executing avisynth scripts.

***

Latest update includes Boot-Logo when launching multiAVCHD:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_boot.jpg

When prompted to update, please do. If not, use multiUPDATE to update your multiAVCHD, which in its turn will do all necessary updates itself.

There will be a short delay when you launch multiAVCHD for a first time after the update, while .\res\splash.bmp (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/splash.bmp) (550KB) and .\multiBOOT.exe (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiBOOT.exe) (50KB) are downloaded (total of 600kb). If you wish, you can download these 2 files manually and save them in their proper locations. After a complete reinstall, multiAVCHD icon/link launches multiBOOT.exe. It is required, because multiAVCHD boots really-really slow and some users double/tripple click/start multiAVCHD and it causes troubles.

If you don't want to do a full-download/reinstall, please change your multiAVCHD shortcut to point to multiBOOT.exe.

Please, do not start multiAVCHD.exe directly - it will take more (~2x) time to launch.

Dean

Capsbackup

1st August 2010, 17:02

deank, I have just tried, downloaded twice from 2 different sites, the latest full version, but when I try to install, I get a message that says:
Installer integrity check has failed. Common causes includes incomplete download and damaged media. Contact the installer's author to obtain a new copy.
More information at: http://nsis.sf.net/NSIS_Error :confused:

deank

1st August 2010, 17:05

I'm uploading the installer atm and it is not complete. The upload broke couple of times and you probably don't have the full installer (38 061 834 bytes).

You don't really need it. Just launch multiUPDATE.exe, then close multiAVCHD and restart it. And change the shortcut to multiBOOT.exe which should be present in multiAVCHD's folder.

Capsbackup

1st August 2010, 17:13

OK, done. It works. It appears to launch multiAVCHD in about 7 seconds now. :)
I was not having any problems with it before, seemed to launch acceptibly fine for me!
Of course, with my age does come patience! :p

deank

1st August 2010, 17:16

Same here (launches for 7 seconds), but on my older desktop PC it takes like 120 SECONDS?! And even 10-15 seconds delay may cause users to launch it again and...

The problem is that multiAVCHD is compiled each time it is started and it takes some time on slower machines.

I think the splash screen is a nice looking way to wait for main app to appear.

Dean

Capsbackup

1st August 2010, 17:17

I think the splash screen is a nice looking way to wait for main app to appear.

Agreed!

deank

1st August 2010, 17:22

Full-download link (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.1.exe) is now available.

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 18:55

I added HH:MM:SS:FR support - you'll get it in the next update.

Thanks, very much appreciated.

Was that the reason for the failure with the chapter file that I have?

multiUPDATE is updated to use different servers.
multiAVCHD will automatically download and update multiUPDATE.

Attempting autoupdate. Will do manual if it fails.

deank

1st August 2010, 19:13

multiAVCHD supports about 10 chapter formats, it is that :FR(ame) one was not one of them.

Internally multiAVCHD uses HR:MM:SS.MLS - milliseconds and not frames. multiAVCHD uses all types of framerate conversion and the only way to keep all correct is to use TIME-stamps and not frames and that's why if you load a chapter file with :FR format it will be converted to .MLS milliseconds.

Dean :rolleyes:

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 19:15

I added HH:MM:SS:FR support - you'll get it in the next update.

Since I couldn't find a way to set the timecode format, I have to assume that you didn't mean the update that just happened, but for build 763.

deank

1st August 2010, 19:16

Build 762 accepts HR:MM:SS:FR format. Try to load your chapter file - it should work.

It will even work if your chapter file looks like

00:00:01.001
00:02:03:20
1681
00:12:06
00:18:12;00:19:31.434

The update uses the same build number, because of minor changes.

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 19:21

Internally multiAVCHD uses HR:MM:SS.MLS - milliseconds and not frames. multiAVCHD uses all types of framerate conversion and the only way to keep all correct is to use TIME-stamps and not frames and that's why if you load a chapter file with :FR format it will be converted to .MLS milliseconds.

In that case, any idea why the chapter file that was created from VideoReDo would cause mAVCHD to crash?

File attached.

deank

1st August 2010, 19:23

The attachment needs approval. Can you copy/paste it in [ code ] or post in multiFORUM threads so I can take a look?

Before you do, please use multiUPDATE.exe to update your multiAVCHD - just to be on the safe side.

A chapter file with:

00:00:00:00

each on separate line works for sure and I tested it yesterday.

I used this one for testing:

00:00:00:00
00:07:59:20
00:15:59:11
00:23:59:22
00:31:59:03
00:39:59:14
00:47:59:05
00:55:59:06
01:03:59:17
01:11:59:18
01:19:59:09

and got

00:00:00.000
00:07:59.800
00:15:59.440
00:23:59.880
00:31:59.120
00:39:59.560
00:47:59.200
00:55:59.240
01:03:59.680
01:11:59.720
01:19:59.360

for 25fps video.

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 19:25

Build 762 accepts HR:MM:SS:FR format. Try to load your chapter file - it should work.

It didn't crash this time, but it only used the chapters that ended in :00

The other 6 were ignored.

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 19:28

The attachment needs approval. Can you copy/paste it in [ code ] or post in multiFORUM threads so I can take a look?

Sorry, didn't notice that it was tagged pending. Not used to that.

00:00:29:23
00:01:08:00
00:13:16:01
00:21:10:00
00:31:59:06
00:38:33:12
00:42:56:23
00:47:51:19

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 19:30

Before you do, please use multiUPDATE.exe to update your multiAVCHD - just to be on the safe side.

Oh, and the update was accomplished. Now using the new boot startup.

deank

1st August 2010, 19:31

Pasting your chapter marks works and got me this:

00:00:00.000
00:00:29.920
00:01:08.000
00:13:16.040
00:21:10.000
00:31:59.240
00:38:33.480
00:42:56.920
00:47:51.760

(assuming 25fps video)

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 19:46

Pasting your chapter marks works and got me this:
(assuming 25fps video)

As noted in your other forum (probably should have noted it here):

1080p23.976

deank

1st August 2010, 19:57

Hmm... Just tried with 23.976 and chapter marks are missing. Let me check why... I guess it is a rounding issue.

/./

Execute multiUPDATE.exe - it is fixed now. Sorry about that.

Dean

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 20:32

Execute multiUPDATE.exe - it is fixed now. Sorry for that.

'Tis OK. Just making sure that I wasn't seeing things.

BTW, when someone imports a 29.97 frame/sec project and imports a chapter list, how do you know that they are using DFTC or NDFTC? With 720p59.94, it is even worse, since two consecutive frames have the same timecode, normally marked with a character change before the frame value, i.e., 00:00 and 00.00

Just imported the chapter text file (after adding a chapter manually at time 0), and noticed that the math is was off: (TC Mine Yours)

00:00:00:00 000 000
00:00:29:23 958 293
00:01:08:00 000 000
00:13:16:01 042 708
00:21:10:00 000 000
00:31:59:06 250 .25
00:38:33:12 500 501
00:42:56:23 958 293
00:47:51:19 792 459

The frames must be frame divided by 24, not 23.976. I just noticed that VideoReDo is using NDFTC with 23.976 video. I'm not even sure what the formula is with 23.976 video using DFTC. I'll have to figure that out.

And no, it is not a typo in that the .25 is displayed as: 00:31:59..25

In the little thumbnail display of the video, you can't get to frame 000, it always displays as 001. Plus the F>> button doesn't skip a single frame, it seems to skip 6 frames, i.e., four clicks and you are at the 1 second mark, which does display as 1.000. All three of the times that are displayed within the first second are .001 too high.

deank

1st August 2010, 20:51

The .25 is fixed.

Rounding 23.976 to 24 will not be implemented.

You can manually enter a chapter-jump point in "CHAPTERS" tab. Enter a value and click the box where you entered it - preview point will seek to the position.

Dean

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 20:53

I just noticed that VideoReDo is using NDFTC with 23.976 video. I'm not even sure what the formula is with 23.976 video using DFTC. I'll have to figure that out.

I'm not sure that there can be DFTC for 23.976 video. The first point at which 23.976 fps come out at an even number of frames is 25 minutes, or 35964 frames. At 24 fps that is 36000 frames. It is only off 36 frames, or about 1.5 seconds every 25 minutes. Yes, it is an error. But the 1.44 frames that it is off every minute doesn't work out evenly, that is to just frames forward at every minute, or two minutes (that I can easily see)

deank

1st August 2010, 21:03

23.976fps 2 hour movie with chapter set at the last second:

23.976 = frame 172627
24.000 = frame 172800 (there is no such frame and all subsequent chapter processing / thumbnail extraction / menu jumps will fail).

The difference is 7 seconds and all tools within multiAVCHD work with millisecond precision, so there is no way I use rounding up or non-dropframe format for drop-frame framerates.

Dean

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 21:58

The .25 is fixed.

What about the other math errors? 23/23.976 is not .293, etc.

UPDATE: I see that the other math error is fixed as well.

You can manually enter a chapter-jump point in "CHAPTERS" tab. Enter a value and click the box where you entered it - preview point will seek to the position.

I just now noticed that you can set a jump value for the F>> and <<F buttons. Like I said, I need new glasses :D

There is something strange going on with the chapter time entry box. While playing with a value that is already there, and building from that, here is what happens:

Chapter box value - thumbnail displayed image value
00:00:29.293 00:00:29.292
00:25:29.293 00:25:29.292
00:25:29.29 00:24:09:965 <-- way out of place
00:25:29.290 00:25:29.289
00:25:29.289 00:25:29.288
00:25:29.288 00:25:29.288
00:25:29.287 00:25:29.287
00:25:29:12 00:24:09.965 <-- way out of place

Rounding errors for the rest of them. I would expect an entered timecode to go to the nearest appropriate frame, but the thousandths values changes a lot a well.

The .29 and .290 should be handled the same.

For the last sample, it doesn't want to work with frames as the last value, even though I indicated it was a frame value with the : in front of it.

UPDATE: I just noticed that the 24:09.965 location is your starting point for this file.

You jump there if you don't know how to handle the entered value? If so, not very intuitive to the user.

MrVideo

1st August 2010, 22:11

23.976 = frame 172627
24.000 = frame 172800 (there is no such frame and all subsequent chapter processing / thumbnail extraction / menu jumps will fail).

Ah, misunderstanding. The divide by 24 only for the frame, not the whole timecode. I know that basing it on the whole timecode value will be a major problem. In any event, not a big deal. With years of editing, even with Umatic tape, I'm used to timecode with frames, not decimals for frames.

The difference is 7 seconds and all tools within multiAVCHD work with millisecond precision, so there is no way I use rounding up or non-dropframe format for drop-frame framerates.

See the above posting about strange millisecond errors.

How do you know if someone is supplying NDFTC or DFTC with a chapter list for 29.97 video? With VideoReDo, I can set it for DFTC (my preferred time display) or NDFTC and the chapter list that is created will be written based upon my setting.

deank

2nd August 2010, 10:07

Frame -> milliseconds conversion is fixed

00-23 (for 23.976 and 24fps)
00-24 (for 25.000 fps)
00-29 (for 29.970 and 30fps)

Also, CHAPTER time code box and CHAPTER-THUMBNAIL time code box allow usage of HH:MM:SS:FR format.

Please note that the delimiter is : and not . (dot), so 00:01:02.03 will not be accepted (as you posted in your example).

Dean

Karl Beem

2nd August 2010, 15:30

I'm new to Multiavchd. I can't get menus to work. The guide says that you can have up to 252 scrollable titles. When I try, they don't scroll, nor can they be selected or executed. I can't produce anything like the "Favorite clips" menu in the guide. I have no control over where the selections go. BTW, I'm only interested in hard drive playback - I have no interest in burning to optical. Which project output type should I choose?

deank

2nd August 2010, 15:32

What player will you use?

Karl Beem

2nd August 2010, 15:36

What player will you use?

Possibly TMT3.

deank

2nd August 2010, 15:38

Then you can use:

[Sony Playstation 3]
[AVCHD relaxed]
[Blu-ray]

All three will work with TMT3. To play the structure with the menu you'll have to drag the BDMV folder to TMT3.

Dean

Karl Beem

2nd August 2010, 16:03

Then you can use:

[Sony Playstation 3]
[AVCHD relaxed]
[Blu-ray]

All three will work with TMT3. To play the structure with the menu you'll have to drag the BDMV folder to TMT3.

Dean

I still can't play a selection. My selections are displayed vertically, each one smaller than the last. I have no control over where they are displayed.

drpaulng

2nd August 2010, 17:19

I still can't play a selection. My selections are displayed vertically, each one smaller than the last. I have no control over where they are displayed.

Do not use the mouse, use the keypad up-down-left-right keys.

Capsbackup

2nd August 2010, 17:40

deank;
This new change for chapters is not working for me! :confused:
I import my playlist files created from BD-RB for a new compilation with my custom menu, and since the original did not have a chapter location at the end of the clip, in the past I would just edit and enter a chapter number less .250ms from the total time of the clip so that if I press chapter advance on the remote, I can go to the end of the title immediately rather than FF to the end of the title.
Now, when I try this, multiAVCHD crashes with this message:
"(RT) Part of Delimited text not found - Line 27034".
I have tried entering the same way BD-RB transfers and has them entered, (00:02:30.450) or tried ( 00:02:30:450), but both ways cause program to crash.
What is the correct way, or is it not possible anymore, to add this last chapter?

EDIT:
I can ultimately get it to work, by trying different values for the last chapter, but it seems very finicky and selective. :rolleyes:
It will crash the program if it doesn't like the time value I insert.
The value seems to need to be .300 to .400 less than the total time, but this is not consistent by any means!
Is there a problem or do I need to learn a new procedure? :p

MrVideo

2nd August 2010, 18:44

Frame -> milliseconds conversion is fixed

Also, CHAPTER time code box and CHAPTER-THUMBNAIL time code box allow usage of HH:MM:SS:FR format.

Thank you kind sir. I know that it will be appreciated by those of us who work in full timecode. I was communicating with another user who will appreciate it as well.

Please note that the delimiter is : and not . (dot), so 00:01:02.03 will not be accepted (as you posted in your example).

Fully expected the colon delimiter. If someone does enter .03, will it go to the nearest appropriate time code location (.042 for 23.976)?

As a side note, I went digging for information about 23.976 drop frame time code and it does not exist. Will probably never exist. For those that are in television production where their 23.976 master will be converted to 720p or 1080i, there appears to be functions on some NLE systems that allow the user to find out what the realtime clock is after the selected segment is 2:3 pulldown converted to 720p and/or 1080i.

Karl Beem

2nd August 2010, 19:35

Do not use the mouse, use the keypad up-down-left-right keys.

OK, is there anyplace in the guide where this stuff is mentioned?

Also You can create menus for each title - how do you get to them?

Avisynth_challenged

2nd August 2010, 20:22

What player will you use?

How about the WD TV Live Plus 1080p Network Media Player (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=832)?

deank

3rd August 2010, 07:27

deank;
This new change for chapters is not working for me! :confused:

Now, ..., multiAVCHD crashes with this message:
"(RT) Part of Delimited text not found - Line 27034".

I'll check it today.

facognig

3rd August 2010, 10:40

I'm new to Multiavchd.
I have created on USB a avchd-video with a mkv HDvideo
I can see mts video in BDMV/STREAM
but avchd don't start autmatically pressing X on joystick
and i have no menu

cwh060

3rd August 2010, 18:43

I'm new to Multiavchd.
I have created on USB a avchd-video with a mkv HDvideo

Make sure the root folder is "AVCHD" and nothing else for PS3 playback.

MrVideo

4th August 2010, 07:07

OK, is there anyplace in the guide where this stuff is mentioned?

There's a guide? That would be news to a lot of us.

pepelugil

4th August 2010, 08:05

Hi, lots of thanks for this great software, I’ve just started using multiAVCHD and it’s really nice, but I miss a “movie” style menu:

Taking XMB menu as the basis it would be nice that you could define a video in the compilation as the main movie and the rest of videos in compilation would be the bonus features.

The Main menu would be similar to XMB single-title menu but there should exist only one Main menu (bonus movies wouldn’t have Main menu), and Title List menu would be used to list the bonus videos (the main movie wouldn’t be shown here) and play them directly from here when selecting one of them without going to their Main menu.

I don’t know if this is possible to easy implement or if it’s just a crazy thought, but I think it would be nice.

deank

4th August 2010, 10:43

deank;
This new change for chapters is not working for me! :confused:
I import my playlist files created from BD-RB for a new compilation with my custom menu, :p

I couldn't replicate the problem, but I think I found what may causing it. Would you please try again and let me know if it works?

Dean

Capsbackup

4th August 2010, 15:22

I couldn't replicate the problem, but I think I found what may causing it. Would you please try again and let me know if it works?

Dean

It looks like all is well again! :D
I tried several different chapter adds, going as close as .250 from the total length of the title, and multiAVCHD accepts it. On the three different tests, no more problems.
Thanks Dean. :)

deank

4th August 2010, 15:27

:) Good. You can go as close as to the very end to add a chapter mark, but I'd suggest not, because chapter-thumb will not be extracted properly.

Capsbackup

4th August 2010, 15:35

:) Good. You can go as close as to the very end to add a chapter mark, but I'd suggest not, because chapter-thumb will not be extracted properly.

Good to know, but I am not one to push limits! :p

defender

4th August 2010, 16:50

ERROR:

= (RT) Application "C:\multiAVCHD\multiBOOT.exe" cannot be executed - Line 6

and my Bitdefender:
"Gen:Trojan.Heur.DP.dKW@aGGd2cc" :devil:

deank

4th August 2010, 16:56

You'll have to send it to your antivirus software supplier. There is no virus in any of the tools (package) of multiAVCHD.

speedway76

4th August 2010, 17:17

Greetings, Dean
At me a problem. Has decided to make a film consisting of the basic film and additional materials. In the menu has marked point: "Create name chapter".
After мукса the following problem turns out. By pressing point - the choice of episodes, occurs nothing. (There is no transition in the menu of a choice of episodes and in the menu tittle list)

At removal of a tick from point "Create name chapter" - all is normal, such problem is not present, all points, both options and a choice of episodes open

deank

4th August 2010, 17:20

Both are not connected. There is a small glitch sometimes (related to GPR registers) and TITLE-LIST menu won't launch.

To overcome the problem, enter CHAPTER menu, exit and TITLE-LIST will open.

rd001

5th August 2010, 00:29

ERROR:

= (RT) Application "C:\multiAVCHD\multiBOOT.exe" cannot be executed - Line 6

and my Bitdefender:
"Gen:Trojan.Heur.DP.dKW@aGGd2cc" :devil:

Have you tried scanning it at the VirusTotal (http://www.virustotal.com/) site?

It uses a farm of computers to virus-scan files you upload to it. It really helps reveal spurious false positives that you may get from AV programs for a file you have no other reason to suspect of being evil.

Capsbackup

5th August 2010, 00:45

Have you tried scanning it at the VirusTotal (http://www.virustotal.com/) site?

It uses a farm of computers to virus-scan files you upload to it. It really helps reveal spurious false positives that you may get from AV programs for a file you have no other reason to suspect of being evil.

I have McAfee installed, no detection here. It's been working perfectly fine! :cool:

MrVideo

5th August 2010, 06:50

I upgraded to the latest version.

When I loaded a new time code file, except for time 0, each and every frame value, when converted to decimal fraction was incorrect.

Here are the time code values for the 23.976 video. The first decimal column is what mAVCHD calculated and displays as the time in the thumbnail. The 2nd decimal is FF/23.976 and the 3rd decimal column is FF/24. What the thumbnail displays can be off by 001, i.e., the calculated 999 gets displayed as 998.

00:00:00:00 000 000 000
00:00:29:23 999 959 958
00:01:08:00 000 000 000
00:13:16:01 043 042 042
00:21:10:00 000 000 000
00:31:59:06 261 250 250
00:38:33:08 348 334 333
00:42:57:23 999 959 958
00:47:50:22 957 918 917
00:58:34:14 609 584 583
01:09:37:05 217 209 208
01:14:09:06 261 250 250
01:19:47:10 435 417 417
01:28:50:06 261 250 250
01:29:20:08 348 334 333
01:30:21:07 304 292 292
01:30:26:07 304 292 292

MrVideo

5th August 2010, 06:57

While checking all of the time codes (above post), when got to the last few of the video, the thumbnail started displaying gray. It was about the last two minutes.

I found the last location where there was a thumbnail of the video and the very next frame, and every frame after that, was gray.

deank

5th August 2010, 08:49

I got the gray frames, too... I don't know why, but I'll check it... And the timecodes...

Jonaldinho

5th August 2010, 09:56

Hi Dean, loving your programme. I've got an issue with a 3d playlist file, it's not recognising it's 3D. It's the UK version of Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs. I successfully managed to encode the right View to a seperate file with this guide http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=155246&highlight=anaglyph I added the same playlist file to MultiAVCHD (00001.mpls) and it didn't say that it recognised it was 3D and in the transcode window Anaglyph 3D was greyed out.This is the log:

[09:49:14] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04010755]
[09:49:45] *** Scanning playlist (00001.mpls). Please wait...
[09:49:49] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[09:49:49] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 00:45:44.032] [00:00:11.650]
[09:49:53] *** Detected media file: [00151.m2ts, 00:45:44.032] (11713 MiB)
[09:49:53] *** Playitem size exceeds split point of 4000 MiB (set in Author tab).
[09:49:53] *** Playlist marked for full processing mode. (split/join)
[09:49:53] *** Detected main-path : [ID#001 Dur: 00:44:09.355] [00:00:11.650]
[09:49:59] *** Detected media file: [00177.m2ts, 00:44:09.354] (11247 MiB)
[09:49:59] *** Playitem size exceeds split point of 4000 MiB (set in Author tab).
[09:49:59] *** Playlist marked for full processing mode. (split/join)
[09:49:59] *** Detected chapters #: 00:00:00.000;00:04:47.620;00:08:56.577;00:14:33.163;00:20:30.229;00:24:25.589;00:30:43.174;00:36:29.604;00:42:50.109;00:46:36.793;00:52:43.827;00:55:07.429;01:00:42.764;01:05:43.397;01:13:03.754;01:17:45.369
[09:49:59] *** Playlist duration : 01:29:53 (22961 MiB)

Also, if or when it can recognise it i'd like to try yellow/blue anaglyph (colorcode), do you think you would consider adding it as a 3D conversion option. Thanks for your time, keep up the great work!

deank

5th August 2010, 11:27

00001.mpls is not the 3D playlist. I can't remember, but I think the proper one was 151... I'd suggest to import the whole BDMV folder and let multiAVCHD find the correct 3D playlist.

deank

5th August 2010, 11:35

I got the gray frames, too... I don't know why, but I'll check it... And the timecodes...

I think it is fixed now. Update manually if not prompted.

Jonaldinho

5th August 2010, 12:15

00001.mpls is not the 3D playlist. I can't remember, but I think the proper one was 151... I'd suggest to import the whole BDMV folder and let multiAVCHD find the correct 3D playlist.

Tried that, it's found it :) it's 00150.mpls, thanks. I thought it was 00001.mpls because I imported that playlist into eac3to and it had a left and right view, and I demuxed them and encoded the right view with stereosource and it all worked fine. I don't understand how that worked now lol.

deank

5th August 2010, 12:49

@Jonaldinho: I just added yellow/blue to the list. If you can - give it a try and let me know if the colors are proper. I have no such glasses to test with.

Dean

Jonaldinho

5th August 2010, 13:02

That was unbeleivably quick! :eek: I will try it now and let you know asap. Thanks a lot!

ps you don't have to get really expensive glasses, the cardboard glasses aren't that expensive, I got 5 official colorcode glasses for £9.99 http://www.assistpoint.co.uk/colorcode_3d_glasses_with_arms.html

deank

5th August 2010, 17:00

I encoded the menu from Panasonic 3D Blu-ray Demo Disc with Yellow/Blue option and it seems okay. Let me know if your glasses work.

setarip_old

5th August 2010, 21:20

@deank

If you'd like to experiment further with stereoscopic 3D, as well as anaglyph, check out this thread by "Jeremy Duncan":

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1422344#post1422344

Jonaldinho

5th August 2010, 21:57

I encoded the menu from Panasonic 3D Blu-ray Demo Disc with Yellow/Blue option and it seems okay. Let me know if your glasses work.

Sorry it took me a while, i tried it with a short clip from Open Season. I also converted it with Pantarheon and made screenshots and they look exactly the same. I made some screenshots of Colorcode's normal encoding, special encoding, stereoscopic player full colour and stereoscopic player optimizied. I can really see the differences from the screenshots. Colrcode's normal and special encoding is the best on colour and the 3d effect. It really is good that it's so 3d and has full colour. Steroscopic player full colour is good with colour, not that good on 3D, stereoscopic player optimizied is just good on 3d but the colours aren't good. I will upload the screenshots tomorrow. It's good that you've got a yellow and blue option now. I don't know if it would be possible to get it looking like colorcodes because it's patented. Probably need a lot of tinkering.

MrVideo

6th August 2010, 01:35

I think it is fixed now. Update manually if not prompted.

The time code is fixed. The gray is sortof. I have a title that is 1:30:36.0 in length and one that is around 45 minutes in length. The 45 minute title has no issues with gray. But the long one is ok @ 1:29:10.703. One frame later, continuing on thru the end of the video, it is gray.

setarip_old

6th August 2010, 03:52

MrVideo

6th August 2010, 05:02

Project has two titles.

In the properties for the first title, I added the poster file and then selected custom menu and hit the more button ... crashed

The error dialog: (RT) Attempt to read uninitialized field (TOPMENUTITLE). Assign a value first. Line - 2452

Jonaldinho

6th August 2010, 08:24

@deank

http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/71701

MultiAVCHD
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/63/92/1379c76052336392.jpg
Pantarheon
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/40/BB/7a0a87c80c5540bb.jpg
Stereoscopic Player Full Colour
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/22/51/01c3cdf6b2a42251.jpg
Stereoscopic Player Optimized
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/51/0A/197cade4e05a510a.jpg
Colorcode Normal Encoding
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/04/99/285fcf482c090499.jpg
Colorcode Special Encoding
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/4A/19/08a98df2b8914a19.jpg

I notice the colourcodes colour is a bit brighter, especially the anaglyph yellow and blue.

deank

6th August 2010, 08:44

@deank

If you'd like to see how video output looks as stereoscopic output as well as any other 3D format you can think of, download the Stereoscopic Player 1.6.2 (Demo version plays 3 minutes):

Thanks. I have this player. :)

Project has two titles.

In the properties for the first title, I added the poster file and then selected custom menu and hit the more button ... crashed

The error dialog: (RT) Attempt to read uninitialized field (TOPMENUTITLE). Assign a value first. Line - 2452

I'll take a look, but click [MORE] without changing to "custom". It will be changed automatically.

@deank
I notice the colourcodes colour is a bit brighter, especially the anaglyph yellow and blue.

I'll tweak a bit the output and will let you know later.

MrVideo

6th August 2010, 09:56

I'll take a look, but click [MORE] without changing to "custom". It will be changed automatically.

Default or custom. No matter, it crashes with that error.

It was fine until the last update.

deank

6th August 2010, 09:57

Latest update has nothing to do with it. I'm loading a file, setting a poster, clicking [MORE] then [OK] and it is all fine. No errors.

deank

6th August 2010, 11:53

@deank

I notice the colourcodes colour is a bit brighter, especially the anaglyph yellow and blue.

Would you update with multiUPDATE and post another screenshot if there is a difference?

Jonaldinho

6th August 2010, 13:21

I've only compared to Colorcode normal encoding this time but if you want other comparisons I will do them:

http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/71752

MultiAVCHD Attempt 1
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/8C/F9/e341f5252afa8cf9.jpg
MultiAVCHD Attempt 2
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/02/24/024c5937f2940224.jpg
Colorcode Normal Encoding
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/37/57/299e1578c3bb3757.jpg

I think the actual yellow and blue is closer now, maybe a tinchy bit too much colour, but I think the overall image is a bit too bright or has too much colour so doesn't make the yellow and blue stand out. If the overall image was somewhere in the middle of your 2 attempts in terms of brightness and colour (or maybe it has something to do with contrast?) ,and the yellow and blue had a tiny bit less colour as attempt 2 I think it would look very close. Good work though :) I'll keep testing as long as you like, don't take very long with such a short clip and I really want to beable to use the yellow and blue for 3D.

EDIT: Here's the left and right image before conversion if it helps.

Left: http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/D8/64/98751b67c017d864.jpg

Right: http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/4C/6C/83d24b5fd3284c6c.jpg

deank

6th August 2010, 13:31

I'm not sure if it is possible to achieve closer match with ColorCode... Try to update again and let me know.

You can pause the encoding if you wish and alter the settings in the avisynth script.

Dean

Jonaldinho

6th August 2010, 14:27

This is definitely the best now and much better than Pantarheon's. The yellow and blue is spot on and it does look more 3d. You can see a slight difference with colorcodes for the overall image but much closer, i'll let you make judgement http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/71761 but if you think this is the best you can do it i'm happy with it and definitely use it over Pantarheon's. Thanks a lot! :) I'm off out right now but i'm still happy to do testing if you want when I get time later.

deank

6th August 2010, 15:32

When you can, please take a look at these images... Do they have the proper colors/depth:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/3d/cc/CI-206432956830094707.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/3d/cc/CI-193982956830094707.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/3d/cc/CI-183604956830094707.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/3d/cc/CI-170218956830094707.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/3d/cc/CI-156472956830094707.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/3d/cc/CI-137982956830094707.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/3d/cc/CI-131199956830094707.jpg

Dean

Capsbackup

6th August 2010, 17:01

deank, just curious if there is a reason motion menus are limited to 32 seconds for Carousel and Slide, but can be longer for XMB?
I really like the look of the Carousel menu, it really can impersonate an original Blu-ray since you provided the new CM_bott.bmp. However, since most original menus are longer than 32 seconds, which is what my source is, I usually will have to cut the audio and reencode it to perform a fade out, and do the same with the video, using trim and fade in/out to create a new motion menu that is 32 seconds.
Though I can do this and it works fine, the no-limit of the XMB would be ideal for the other two options. :)

deank

6th August 2010, 17:16

It is a lot of work to make it the same for SLI/CAR and I was postponing it. I'll try to add the same functionality as XMB in these two styles, too (next week I hope).

Dean

Capsbackup

6th August 2010, 17:21

It is a lot of work to make it the same for SLI/CAR and I was postponing it. I'll try to add the same functionality as XMB in these two styles, too (next week I hope).

Dean

I thank you Dean! But it is not a priority by any means. :p
It will be ANOTHER great addition though!! :)
:thanks:

MrVideo

6th August 2010, 18:10

Latest update has nothing to do with it. I'm loading a file, setting a poster, clicking [MORE] then [OK] and it is all fine. No errors.

Then I don't understand, because before the upgrade it worked. I'll try a previous project and see what happens.

MrVideo

6th August 2010, 18:50

Latest update has nothing to do with it. I'm loading a file, setting a poster, clicking [MORE] then [OK] and it is all fine. No errors.

I had to start the project over. Something must have been wrong in the project file to cause the problems.

I still get the gray at the end of the long video. Plus, it is a transport stream and not a MKV file.

I'm trying to figure out the differences between the three menu types and not having any luck. The project has two videos. I go into the Author tab and select the first menu type and then go into the Menu tab and preview the menu. When I do that for the other two menu types, the previews are exactly the same.

I've seen the other menu styles, but I can't get that to happen anymore. When I was able to get it to happen, the first title would preview as the XMB style (at least I think it was the XMB style), then when I clicked on the >>> to see the next title, then it would display the other style that I had selected.

Very confusing and frustrating.

Jonaldinho

6th August 2010, 19:10

When you can, please take a look at these images... Do they have the proper colors/depth:

It looks fantastic. Depth and colour. Have you tweaked it some more? Have you still got the encoded file? If yes could you upload it to rapidshare? I'd like to see it.

deank

6th August 2010, 19:33

Yep, a minor contrast/brightness tweak. :) I'm glad it looks better now!

The screenshots are created with latest update (you may update manually). If you wish I'll upload this video as MKV at rapidshare.

Dean

p.s. Uploading... [link will be available soon]

Jonaldinho

6th August 2010, 20:48

OK Thanks, I would be interested to see live action. Here's the difference with the new update http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/71819 between colorcode and stereoscopic player. In comparison to colorcodes i can't make my mind up which is better between attempt 3 and 4 lol, 4 has got better colour but don't know which has the best 3d effect. The difference with colorcodes is what's more distinguishable 3D, you can see the man in the bottom left corner in 3d, the birds, the trees in the bottom right corner in the background, the man in front of the trees, and the other man in front of him, where as with yours and all the other methods except for stereoscopic optimizied you can only see the 2 men in the foreground and the birds in 3d. But I still prefer yours to Pantarheon's. I think 3D to yellow and blue needs tweaks to get the best effect but Pantarheon's doesn't have any tweaks, it's exactly the same brightness, colour and contrast as the original 2D with yellow and blue but that's not strong enough either where as yours is. Do you think you are going to get some yellow and blue glasses? I'm happy to keep testing adjustments when you make them but you might beable to tweak it better if you could see the 3D effect.

deank

6th August 2010, 21:19

Here is the link for Grand_Canyon_ColorCode clip. (http://rapidshare.com/files/411444150/Grand_Canyon_ColorCode.mkv.html) (147MB)

I guess I can add an option to tweak saturation/contrast/brightness for anaglyph modes. But still - keep in mind that colorcode is a patented presentation algorithm and no matter what we do, we would never get even 90% of its color perception.

And - no - I have no brown(yellow)/blue glasses and testing is impossible for me.

Dean

MrVideo

7th August 2010, 23:59

Because the tutorial is out-of-date and because there isn't a manual, I have no clue as to how to get the menus to work.

Yes, I found the dialog page where you can select XMB (what is that?), slide and carousel. But, when I click on the menu preview button, no matter which menu type I selected there is no difference.

The menu that is displayed appears to only be what is selected in the property for the title.

I thought I once saw a selection box to show all titles on a single menu page. I've not been able to find that since. I don't mean the titles menu page that is available, but a first menu that would only show the two or three titles that I have and not a menu with room for more than that. I must have been seeing things.

I'm beginning to believe that I can't get a preview of the Top Menu and that the only menu preview I can see are for the individual titles.

Dean, if you and others reading my postings think I'm stupid, so be it. But I've been working with computers for 30+ years. As a programmer and system administrator, there are manuals/documentation in which to find out how various things work. With multiAVCHD there is no manual. The poor user is left to try and figure out how things work. I've authored a few DVDs using a professional authoring package, so I have a good concept of what should happen. Trying to get there is extremely frustrating without documentation. As a result, I'm left to post questions that appear to be stupid to those that know the program, that go left unanswered (in this forum and Dean's personal forum).

drpaulng

8th August 2010, 02:49

@MrVideo:
ON TAB [Author]Tick on the box: Create top menu,
select XMB (Cross-bar Menu type like PS3) for example, then turn on TAB [Menu] to set up additional text font-color-size...etc. Now try to click on "Main menu", "Chapter menu" etc and wait a little few seconds. You should have a preview screen popping up.

multiAVCHD is evolving very fast, any help-manuscript would be obsolete after a few days...However, you may find it not-that-hard to understand just by try-and-error with immediate response from the preview. Do some project with very small size like the movie trailers first.

If you cannot get the preview screen popping out, then you should re-install everything or check what is wrong with your computer, it must be very different from all other people's.

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 03:27

ON TAB [Author]Tick on the box: Create top menu,
select XMB (Cross-bar Menu type like PS3) for example, then turn on TAB [Menu] to set up additional text font-color-size...etc. Now try to click on "Main menu", "Chapter menu" etc and wait a little few seconds. You should have a preview screen popping up.

Yep, done all that. I've tried XMB, slide and carousel. I do not see these menus:
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_preview.jpg
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiXMB_420.jpg
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SL1.jpg

multiAVCHD is evolving very fast, any help-manuscript would be obsolete after a few days...However, you may find it not-that-hard to understand just by try-and-error with immediate response from the preview.

I agree that things are changing. But, the basic concept of getting menus functioning, what they are and what they should look like, should exist as help. The tutorial that is there doesn't describe what each menu type is and what it should look like.

I need to get PhotoShop on the system that is being used for encoding and Blu-Ray disc creation, so that I can do screen grabs and show what I am running up against.

If you cannot get the preview screen popping out, then you should re-install everything or check what is wrong with your computer, it must be very different from all other people's.

The preview window does appear, but it appears not to be showing what I've selected to do.

I'll get PhotoShop installed in order to get examples of what is going on.

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 04:59

OK, PhotoShop is installed, so here is what is going on.

1) Project loaded (http://vidiot.com/images/multiAVCHD-01.png)
2) Title 1 properties (http://vidiot.com/images/multiAVCHD-02.png)
3) Title 1 menu properties (http://vidiot.com/images/multiAVCHD-03.png)
4) Title 2 properties (http://vidiot.com/images/multiAVCHD-04.png)
5) Title 2 menu properties (http://vidiot.com/images/multiAVCHD-05.png)
6) Author Tab (http://vidiot.com/images/multiAVCHD-06.png)
7) Menu Tab (http://vidiot.com/images/multiAVCHD-07.png)
8) Preview Title 1 (http://vidiot.com/images/multiAVCHD-08.png)
9) Preview Title 2 (http://vidiot.com/images/multiAVCHD-09.png)

If I go back to the author tab and select slide or carousel for the top menu type, the menu previews are exactly the same as for XMB.

I have no idea how to get menus that look like the tutorial samples in the previous posting.

I hope that you can now understand my frustration.

Capsbackup

8th August 2010, 07:10

If you are trying to add your own custom menu with audio, on the Menu tab, select advanced, select ... and add your custom mkv/.m2ts/ts/... file.
If you just want your own backround image, select ... under General/Backround image.
Under the General tab, you can select motion or static menu, depending on your choice.
Under Extended tab you can select to create or show title thumbnails, along with other options.
From drpaulng:
Do some project with very small size like the movie trailers first.
Excellent suggestion until you get familiar with multiAVCHD.
There are many features to learn with multiAVCHD, so it will take some time and practice! Be patient, experiment plenty and you will get familiar with it. :)

drpaulng

8th August 2010, 09:02

Yep, done all that. I've tried XMB, slide and carousel. I do not see these menus:
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_preview.jpg
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiXMB_420.jpg
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SL1.jpg

Yes, these are very old...no more such kind of menus now. They belong to multiAVCHD ver3.xxx

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 09:07

If you are trying to add your own custom menu with audio, on the Menu tab, select advanced, select ... and add your custom mkv/.m2ts/ts/... file.

Nope, static, silent menu.

If you just want your own backround image, select ... under General/Backround image.

I did that once and really ended up with a mess, as I couldn't get it to do what I wanted.

Under the General tab, you can select motion or static menu, depending on your choice.

No motion menus at this point in time. Won't deal with trying to do that until I can get static menus to work.

Under Extended tab you can select to create or show title thumbnails, along with other options.

Don't really want that either (a menu of thumbnails). What I really want is a menu that looks like: http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_preview.jpg

Using my own background (of course).

Excellent suggestion until you get familiar with multiAVCHD.
There are many features to learn with multiAVCHD, so it will take some time and practice! Be patient, experiment plenty and you will get familiar with it. :)

Using the titles I have, or a bunch of short trailers, isn't going to help in figuring this out. The compilation of my project doesn't take long as there is no re-encoding going on. The video and audio are already to spec.

I've exhausted the various combinations of check marks that I can see and still do not know why the preview menus are not working. As seen from my settings, no matter which top menu type I choose (XMB, slide, carousel), I get the exact same preview.

I can't find the combination to create the menu as show in the link above. There must be a combination, otherwise there wouldn't be an example menu. It is extremely well hidden. It is kind of like searching for Easter Eggs on DVDs.

I just need a single top level menu in which I can list the contents of the disc, allow the user to play any of the items listed and when that playback is complete, return to the menu. I don't need a chapter menu, nor a setup menu (nothing to set up).

I don't seem to be getting a top menu at all. When I ran the compile through VLC, the only menus found were the ones for each title. VLC doesn't really deal with HDD layouts very well.

I'm pissed that PowerDVD will not play DVD/Blu-ray layouts stored on HDD. That is just plain stupid. I have to find a free player that will play Blu-ray layouts on HDD and correctly deal with the menus.

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 09:11

Yes, these are very old...no more such kind of menus now. They belong to multiAVCHD ver3.xxx

No wonder that I can't find out how to get the first one. Why was it taken away? That is the one that I want.

Now I have no idea what the XMB, slide and carousel menus are even supposed to look like, especially when I can't get them to appear in the menu preview.

Music Fan

8th August 2010, 09:11

@ deank : could you remind me why there is not anymore thumbnail menu ?
It was my favorite and I have to install 2 versions of MultiAVCHD if wanna use thumbnail menu and also new options you added after the last version with thumbnail menu.

deank

8th August 2010, 10:26

No wonder that I can't find out how to get the first one. Why was it taken away? That is the one that I want.

Now I have no idea what the XMB, slide and carousel menus are even supposed to look like, especially when I can't get them to appear in the menu preview.

When you set menu parameters in title [properties] / [more] the title is colored in LIME/GREEN. It means that its menu settings override those set in AUTHOR/MENU tab.

User has the choice to set menu style/properties for ALL TITLES (using AUTHOR/MENU tabs) or to set individual properties per title. If you already set a title with its own menu style, no matter what you change in MENU tab will not affect the (LIME) titles which already have their settings set.

About the screenshot for the menu that you like from ver 3.x - you can use CLASSIC-TITLE-LIST menu in version 4. Set 'title-list BG complexity' slider to far left and your custom background will appear in the preview.

I'd suggest that you load one video and DO NOT OPEN title [properties] but play with the controls in AUTHOR/MENU tabs and [preview] the changes.

@ deank : could you remind me why there is not anymore thumbnail menu ?
It was my favorite and I have to install 2 versions of MultiAVCHD if wanna use thumbnail menu and also new options you added after the last version with thumbnail menu.

Because there is TITLE-LIST menu, which is much better than the 3.x version thumbnail menu.

Music Fan

8th August 2010, 10:58

Ok, thanks, I will take a look at this.

deank

8th August 2010, 11:30

No wonder that I can't find out how to get the first one. Why was it taken away? That is the one that I want.

Now I have no idea what the XMB, slide and carousel menus are even supposed to look like, especially when I can't get them to appear in the menu preview.

Here is a preview of the three main menu styles (without special configuration):

XMB:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_4_XMB.jpg

SLIDE:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_4_SLI.jpg

CAROUSEL:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_4_CAR.jpg

****

AUX TITLE-LIST MENU:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_tlm1.jpg

AUX POP-UP MENU (during playback):
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_popup.jpg

XMB CHAPTER MENU:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_730RC_xmbSch.jpg

NEW (NAMED) CHAPTERS MENU:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/730RC_shots/multiAVCHD_4_NEW_CHAPS.jpg

Dean

Avisynth_challenged

8th August 2010, 18:56

Hi,

I have a 1080i MPEG2 video source (source.m2v), and I have a Dolby Digital audio source (source.ac3). I simply wish to mux them together into a .mpg file (source.mpg). I will then use the .mpg file for editing with VideoRedo.

Does multiAVCHD support this? Or are there other programs I should try? Thanks in advance :)

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 19:05

I'd suggest that you load one video and DO NOT OPEN title [properties] but play with the controls in AUTHOR/MENU tabs and [preview] the changes.

Thanks. I will play using the info you provided.

Is there a way to undo the settings that I did in the title/properties, or do I have to start the project over?

deank

8th August 2010, 19:07

Yes. In title properties change "custom" to "default" for menu style and click [OK].

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 19:08

Does multiAVCHD support this? Or are there other programs I should try? Thanks in advance :)

Use tsMuxeR and create a transport stream (TS) wrapped file instead. Then use VideoReDo to edit it. IMHO a TS file is better.

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 19:10

Yes. In title properties change "custom" to "default" for menu style and click [OK].

That's too easy :D Thanks.

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 19:47

About the screenshot for the menu that you like from ver 3.x - you can use CLASSIC-TITLE-LIST menu in version 4. Set 'title-list BG complexity' slider to far left and your custom background will appear in the preview.

I gather that the 3.x version menu that I like can't exactly be created and it can't be the main menu.

ADDED REASONING:

I'll be creating Blu-rays of TV Show episodes that will contain, at most, three titles. I do not need/want the fancy XMB/Slide/Carousel menu screen. It is just too busy for the project. I just want to KISS the project.

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

As such, the main menu just needs to be the show logo and a list of show episodes (titles) that can be selected to be played. And if possible, a Play All option at the end of the list. No chapter lists and no setup.

deank

8th August 2010, 19:58

Correct. You can still use version 3 for this simple menu.

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 20:03

Correct. You can still use version 3 for this simple menu.

What does one lose in fixes by going back to version 3?

I do not know your reason for removing the simple main menu, as I wasn't around when it happened.

How about adding it back and making it a fourth main menu option:

Simple listing
XMB
Slide
Carousel

I can't be the only user that would like a simple text only main menu.

laserfan

8th August 2010, 20:28

What does one lose in fixes by going back to version 3?Not to worry--version 3 never worked either (the way you want) or at least I could never get it to work.

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 20:33

Since I appear to be SOL for getting a simple text menu, I'm playing with the XMB menu layout.

I have to work on my background image, as the XMB thumbnail placement does not fit well with the background image.

That means I also need different thumbnail images for the titles. So, I found a location that I like. I clicked on the POSTER button and the time code value appeared in the poster frame time code entry box. I then clicked on OK to save the changes.

When I display the menu, instead of the image I selected, I get a blue thumbnail box with the mAVCHD URL in it. The image I selected was not used.

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 20:35

Not to worry--version 3 never worked either (the way you want) or at least I could never get it to work.

OK. That solves that.

Can I assume from your response that you too would like to be able to have the option to have a simple text menu?

laserfan

8th August 2010, 21:07

Can I assume from your response that you too would like to be able to have the option to have a simple text menu?Sure, I might use it (though I might not, given that mAVCHD changes alot and I can't afford a lot of bandwidth to downloads of it). But mAVCHD does way-more than I need-or-want.

Instead I use Ulead's MF6+ with BD plugin, and dummy files for creating the BD structure (I later replace the dummy files with my own encodings, this to avoid MF6+ re-encoding stuff). It's a little tricky, but I can make a simple 1, 2, 3, 4... menu with custom background and audiotrack in less than 5 minutes (the harder part is getting the image & audio, and later substituting into the BDMV my own m2ts, mpls, and clpi files).

But this is all I'm gonna say as it's OT for this thread! ;)

Capsbackup

8th August 2010, 21:12

You can do a simple text menu, no title thumbnails. I have done it! ( For XMB ) :)
You will have to go to Buttons, select Apply Button Position Settings, change the Play-X/Y: button location to your desired locations.

Try this:
On media tab, name the titles to your desired name.
On author tab, create top menu/XMB menu.
Under Menu/General, deselect all options below Default menu type.
Change Main title offset to ( -700 / 50 ) You can change this later if you like!
On Buttons tab, select apply button position settings. Remove / delete any name in Play box.
Change values in Play - X/Y to ( 250 / 500 ).
Now click on Main Menu Preview and see if it is similar to what you desire.
Locations can be changed to your preference, it just takes some adjusting and practice. ;)

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 23:13

Sure, I might use it (though I might not, given that mAVCHD changes alot and I can't afford a lot of bandwidth to downloads of it).

Thanks for the feedback. Bandwidth is not an issue for me, so I get all of the changed versions.

But, if Dean where to add the ability for a simple menu and after a few people have tested it, to shake out any potential bugs, might you get mAVCHD and use it then?

MrVideo

8th August 2010, 23:38

You can do a simple text menu, no title thumbnails. I have done it! ( For XMB ) :)

Following your steps, I get what is close to what I want. With only 2-3 titles, it should work out. It still lists all the particulars for the title.

The only problem is that the thumbnails don't go away. I don't know where/how to get rid of them.

I did manage to create a working AVCHD DVD-R that my Sony Blu-ray played.

I did discover, what I consider, a bug with the Pop-Up menu. As I was playing a title, I brought up the pop-up menu. It contained options for going to the chapter list, as well as the other possible menus. The problem is that I told mAVCHD not to create them. Or so I thought. Looks like I'll have to author without the pop-up menu.

MrVideo

9th August 2010, 00:08

In the properties dialog for a title, if I understand it correctly, the user is supposed to be able to go to any frame in the thumbnail and then click on the POSTER button to use that frame as the thumbnail image.

Clicking on the button does wipe out the manually entered image from the Poster Image: text entry box and it does put the time code into the Poster frame: box. After clicking on OK, I preview the menu and the thumbnail is still there, but it is a blue box with Dean's URL in it.

MrVideo

9th August 2010, 00:45

The entry boxes for offsetting various text in the Menu tab (Font, colors and labls) need to be wider. Many of them need to be able to hold four decimal characters. Right now they barely hold three.

OK, they hold as many numbers as can be typed, but the display area is too small. They need to be able to display 4 decimal characters. Plus there is no label to indicate that it is X/Y.

Capsbackup

9th August 2010, 01:00

Following your steps, I get what is close to what I want. With only 2-3 titles, it should work out. It still lists all the particulars for the title.

The only problem is that the thumbnails don't go away. I don't know where/how to get rid of them.

I did manage to create a working AVCHD DVD-R that my Sony Blu-ray played.

I did discover, what I consider, a bug with the Pop-Up menu. As I was playing a title, I brought up the pop-up menu. It contained options for going to the chapter list, as well as the other possible menus. The problem is that I told mAVCHD not to create them. Or so I thought. Looks like I'll have to author without the pop-up menu.

You have to deselect the title thumbnails under Menu/Extended. Also, select do not show title names if you don't want them.
Whatever you name your titles under the Media tab, that is what will display in the menu. So click on the title name(Compilation) to open the extended properties, and rename your title to what you would like displayed.
There are lots of options that you need to select or deselect as needed for your desires. Click on each tab and see what is there, trying different options to find your liking.
The poster image/time that you select may not show up during the preview, but will after multiAVCHD completes the backup.

MrVideo

9th August 2010, 02:05

You have to deselect the title thumbnails under Menu/Extended. Also, select do not show title names if you don't want them.

Strange, I was in that tab and didn't see it. I'll look again. Yes title names are being displayed.

Whatever you name your titles under the Media tab, that is what will display in the menu. So click on the title name(Compilation) to open the extended properties, and rename your title to what you would like displayed.

Yep, that one I figured out. That was one of the easy items :D

There are lots of options that you need to select or deselect as needed for your desires. Click on each tab and see what is there, trying different options to find your liking.

I've been going through the tabs. Stuff isn't always obvious. You hints have been extremely helpful. I'll do a screen grab to so what I ended up with for the real project. Right now the computer is burning the BD-R that I'll be testing in the player. I have a new Pioneer X10 BD-R burner. I bought inkjet X4 media and ImgBurn has no problems getting the media to burn at X10. Well, it start low and halfway through the 22 GB, it was at 9.0.

The poster image/time that you select may not show up during the preview, but will after multiAVCHD completes the backup.

Ah. Not obvious to the casual user.

The burn completed and it played extremely well. I forgot to turn off the audio during the menu :D

A couple of other minor things as well to change.

Here is the corrected menu:

MrVideo

9th August 2010, 02:33

Thanks to all those who helped me figure out what I needed to do to get the job done.

It was very much appreciated.

MrVideo

9th August 2010, 06:13

I thought that I had saved the project after I changed the menu setting for the audio background to none.

So, I changed it, saved the project, quit mAVCHD and the restarted it. Loaded the project and sure enough it is back to default.

Please fix.

Thanks.

chompy

9th August 2010, 09:56

Hi deank,

In re-author mode, when remuxing m2ts files, multiAVCHD changes IN/OUT PlayItems times in PlayList and mark times in PlayListMark in the playlists edited, but if these m2ts files are also referenced in other playlists, in them only IN/OUT PlayItems times are modified, but mark times aren’t changed… Could you please take a look at it?

Thanks

deank

9th August 2010, 10:54

I know about this problem and I'll take a look.

chompy

9th August 2010, 11:39

I know about this problem and I'll take a look.

:thanks:

deank

9th August 2010, 13:15

It should be okay now. Please test and report back. You should see "PLAYMARK corrections..." message in the log.

Dean

dread

9th August 2010, 15:28

Capsbackup

9th August 2010, 15:36

Is there possibility to get rid of the horizontal line (I guess it's name is smart line) while using slide menu ?

I've attached image to ilustrate what is my problem.

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2562/31631180.th.jpg (http://img576.imageshack.us/i/31631180.jpg/)

You could try Carousel menu, and try the suggestion from post 6163, and read the next few posts, to 6166:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744&page=309

deank

9th August 2010, 15:39

For SLIDE menu you can select [x] No reflection and the black/grayish line will not show.

Capsbackup

9th August 2010, 15:45

For SLIDE menu you can select [x] No reflection and the black/grayish line will not show.

Nice! :) I guess I should have just asked some questions a while back, since it looks like you have had this available for quite some time. :cool:

MrVideo

9th August 2010, 18:21

@dean

Any word on the saving of the background audio setting in the project?

Thanks.

deank

9th August 2010, 18:51

It should be okay in the update from the afternoon.

chompy

9th August 2010, 19:22

It should be okay now. Please test and report back. You should see "PLAYMARK corrections..." message in the log.

Dean

Tested: Playmark corrections messages seen and perfectly applied in PlayListMark.

:thanks:

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 00:29

It should be okay in the update from the afternoon.

Weird. After seeing your posting about the PLAYMARK fix, I started mAVCHD and it downloaded 763+. I then tested it and it returned to default after saving and then loading the project. That is why I did the posting.

Just to make sure that I am not missing a step, since it worked for the Title List BG Complexity slider, i.e., it is where I set it when doing a save.

1) Start mAVCHD
2) Load the project
3) Menu -> Advanced
4) Background audio set to none
5) Save project
6) Quit mAVCHD
repeat steps 1 -> 3
Background audio back to default.

laserfan

10th August 2010, 00:47

The burn completed and it played extremely well. I forgot to turn off the audio during the menu :D

A couple of other minor things as well to change.

Here is the corrected menu:Who can free the attachment from "Pending approval" purgatory? I wanna see.

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 02:29

Who can free the attachment from "Pending approval" purgatory? I wanna see.

I'm doing some mods to it, so when I finish in a little bit, I'll post the new one on my server.

OK, here is my not-so sexy menu (http://vidiot.com/images/mAVCHD-Sample-Project-Menu.png).

mpucoder

10th August 2010, 02:39

Who can free the attachment from "Pending approval" purgatory? I wanna see.
Somehow I missed it, it's approved now.

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 03:09

I've discovered a way to cause mAVCHD to consistantly hang/freeze.

Preview a menu. Bring up another program so that it is on top of the menu preview. In my case, it has been Photoshop, as I was doing a screen grab and then cropping the image.

After finishing with Photoshop and closing it, mAVCHD is now unresponsive. It has to be killed.

I've not been able to cause mAVCHD to go into "not responding" any other way.

Windblows XP-SP2

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 03:11

Somehow I missed it, it's approved now.

Is that the normal mode on Doom9, i.e., do all attachments require moderator approval?

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 03:24

Who can free the attachment from "Pending approval" purgatory? I wanna see.

In case anyone is kinda wondering why the hell I am even doing this project in the first place, considering that the first season has been released on DVD and the second season is forthcoming, is because of the fact and the idiots at ABC Studios/Disney have decided not to release the series on Blu-ray. Along with the fact that my captures are not from low-bitrate OTA broadcasts (only SD upconverts in my market), as I have 30 Mbps MPEG-2 1080i to work with. The 1080p/23.976 x264 encodings are just stunning (20 Mbps).

It pains me that ABC Studios/Disney are not going after the Blu-ray owners considering that it is a series that was extremely well photographed and post-produced.

To be on-topic, the mAVCHD program was the tool I needed to be able to simply author the show (after the hiccups of figuring out how mAVCHD worked and I've still got a lot to learn).

deank

10th August 2010, 10:54

Weird. After seeing your posting about the PLAYMARK fix, I started mAVCHD and it downloaded 763+. I then tested it and it returned to default after saving and then loading the project. That is why I did the posting.

It is okay now. Sorry - update with multiUPDATE.exe.

deank

10th August 2010, 10:55

I've discovered a way to cause mAVCHD to consistantly hang/freeze.

I happens sometimes on my Vista PC. However, I can't do anything about it.

laserfan

10th August 2010, 13:40

OK, here is my not-so sexy menu (http://vidiot.com/images/mAVCHD-Sample-Project-Menu.png).

In case anyone is kinda wondering why the hell I am even doing this project in the first place...I record OTA HDTV in a variety of ways and like to archive episodes to BD-format DVDs and BDs. My menus are absolutely as simple as yours, and IMO mAVCHD is just too difficult to get-to-where-you got. Further, I don't like the "program info" it adds (res, audio, sub, duration, etc). All I want is a background image, and then a numbered list e.g. for the TV series ER, Season 2 I have a pretty background picture and a simple list, made-up from a font & size & attributes & color that I select. I then move them around on the background image until they are aesthetically pleasing:

201 - Welcome Back, Carter!

202 - Summer Run

203 - Do One, Teach One, Kill One

The numbers are for Season 2, Episode 01 and so forth. No other info needed (or wanted). MF6+ allows me to easily type-in anything I want for each episode title. Along with a background, it further allows me to select an audiotrack of, say, 45 seconds and then it will create a menu-with-music that loops for 45 seconds around this track.

So making a menu in MF6+ is as easy as: Select episodes, select background pic, select background audio, create/position episode titles, export to BDMV, done. If mAVCHD allowed me to (easily) create same, I would use it. :)

Capsbackup

10th August 2010, 15:30

I record OTA HDTV in a variety of ways and like to archive episodes to BD-format DVDs and BDs. My menus are absolutely as simple as yours, and IMO mAVCHD is just too difficult to get-to-where-you got. Further, I don't like the "program info" it adds (res, audio, sub, duration, etc). All I want is a background image, and then a numbered list e.g. for the TV series ER, Season 2 I have a pretty background picture and a simple list, made-up from a font & size & attributes & color that I select. I then move them around on the background image until they are aesthetically pleasing:

201 - Welcome Back, Carter!

202 - Summer Run

203 - Do One, Teach One, Kill One

The numbers are for Season 2, Episode 01 and so forth. No other info needed (or wanted). MF6+ allows me to easily type-in anything I want for each episode title. Along with a background, it further allows me to select an audiotrack of, say, 45 seconds and then it will create a menu-with-music that loops for 45 seconds around this track.

So making a menu in MF6+ is as easy as: Select episodes, select background pic, select background audio, create/position episode titles, export to BDMV, done. If mAVCHD allowed me to (easily) create same, I would use it. :)

After experimenting with multiAVCHD, learning its many capabilities, I am able to do this same simple menu too. :)
You do not have to have all the text that is displayed by MrVideo, it is easily removed or edited to one's liking. I can select my backround audio, change positions of the buttons to accomodate my menu picture, etc...
It may take a little more effort to understand how to do all these features, but the features are there!
I have also used MF6 and Ulead ( Corel ) Videostudio, and both are good software.
I guess I get more enjoyment exploring and learning the many softwares available here at Doom9, and supporting their authors any way I can, be it bug reports or just sharing my experience and giving one users perspective. Watching and using as the software and their authors evolve, knowing I have made an effort to contribute, though sometimes ever so slightly,:p, does bring some satisfaction.
My backups work, and though maybe aren't the sexiest or creative, still bring me joy in the creation. ;)

laserfan

10th August 2010, 16:47

I am able to do this same simple menu too. You do not have to have all the text that is displayed...maybe aren't the sexiest or creativeNeither am I into "sexiest or creative", I only want to easily get-at the program! I am amazed that so many here want to make such elaborate menus! Who cares! ;)

If you can outline how you do it, or if MrVideo figures it out, well I'm all ears. But I've tried several times in the past to make EZ menus w/mAVCHD and failed miserably... :o

Avisynth_challenged

10th August 2010, 17:43

I record OTA HDTV in a variety of ways and like to archive episodes to BD-format DVDs and BDs.
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So making a menu in MF6+ is as easy as: Select episodes, select background pic, select background audio, create/position episode titles, export to BDMV, done. If mAVCHD allowed me to (easily) create same, I would use it. :)

I am in the midst of processing a mountain of OTA caps recorded over the last four TV seasons. I'm not quite yet ready to author menus for BD yet, but I have to ask: what is MF6+? Is it (Ulead) MovieFactory, version 6? Did that program come free with your Blu-ray burner? Thanks.

To end this post on-topic... I am using multiAVCHD to take trimmed OTA content and port it to SDHC (Panasonic Blu-ray output mode), keeping the original 1080i MPEG2 video, Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, and creating .sup subtitles from the Closed Caption data. MultiAVCHD works great for this purpose, which has no menu. But perhaps "easy menu" creation for Blu-ray will be available when I'm ready to dive into that phase of my archiving work :)

bluesin

10th August 2010, 17:46

I posted a while back about the audio not syncing and still have had no response to the issue... could someone please point me in the right direction to resolve the issues

setarip_old

10th August 2010, 18:00

Perhaps "deank" can offer/provide a stripped down version of the simplest of the multiAVCHD menuing capabilities as a standalone tool...

laserfan

10th August 2010, 18:20

I am in the midst of processing a mountain of OTA caps recorded over the last four TV seasons. I'm not quite yet ready to author menus for BD yet, but I have to ask: what is MF6+? Is it (Ulead) MovieFactory, version 6? Did that program come free with your Blu-ray burner?No, it is payware--I might have paid $40 plus $20 for the BD plugin. :eek:

...perhaps "easy menu" creation for Blu-ray will be available when I'm ready to dive into that phase of my archiving work.To my knowledge, when it comes to freeware/shareware BD authoring (menu-making, that is), multiAVCHD is the only game in town. Altho MF6+ is "relatively cheapware" I'm sure Dean would love to get even $20 bucks from every mAVCHD user, much less $60. But I can't recommend to anyone to buy MF6+ w/plugin cuz it has its own frailties, especially that it wants to re-encode most everything that didn't originate in a personal video camera.

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 18:48

The ability to create a simple menu is not within the capability of mAVCHD. As I mentioned in a previous posting, there should be and it should be added as a fourth menu type (Simple/XMB/Slider/Carousel).

It would create as many lines as there are titles. The button naming would be no different than it is now, i.e., done in the properties for the title. The location would be the upper-left offset for the start of the list. There would be an option for the line spacing. The colored play box would be set to the left of the first item in the list, unless it is set in the title property in order to make it the first selectable title. Same font setting capability as now, but to keep it simple, the font family, pixel size and color would apply to all items in the list. There would also be about 4-5 freeform text items available as well.

The use of the XMB menu creation comes close, but it is indeed not right for simple menu creation. The reason that I left all of the details in the menu is that if they are turned off, there is a big gaping hole between titles. That really looks crappy.

Something else I discovered that needs to be fixed is that the font outline can't be turned off. There are times where I do not want to use an outline. It should not be there by default.

As others have pointed out, doing a simple compilation Blu-ray disc is not simple with mAVCHD, as a fancy menu must be used and a fancy menu is not necessary when creating these types of compilations. Again, the KISS principle needs to be applied.

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 19:18

It is okay now. Sorry - update with multiUPDATE.exe.

I did so over lunch and it worked. I guess the setting was always in the project file, just wasn't populated into the program setting. When I loaded my project, the setting was there.

:thanks:

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 19:21

I happens sometimes on my Vista PC. However, I can't do anything about it.

OK, at least you know about it. Must be within the handler of the program you are using to create mAVCHD.

I guess a bug report needs to be sent to those guys, since it isn't just Vista and is easily duplicated.

In any event, I know how to get around it.

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 19:26

You do not have to have all the text that is displayed by MrVideo, it is easily removed or edited to one's liking.

I don't know where to edit the text that gives the video type, subtitles and audio. What is there is fine. The problem is that it is there. Turning it off doesn't close the gap between titles. The space is there as if the text was being displayed.

Hence the reason for a simple menu build option, as described in the above posting.

deank

10th August 2010, 19:51

To my knowledge, when it comes to freeware/shareware BD authoring (menu-making, that is), multiAVCHD is the only game in town.

AVCHD Coder supports menu (preset templates) which allows user to create a menu style similar to multiAVCHD ver.3 simplest 'classic' menu. No BG audio, but simple enough. Or one can simply use ver 3 and get classic and 'thumbnail' menu styles.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/snapshot20090122163427.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/titles.jpg

Dean

MrVideo

10th August 2010, 21:38

AVCHD Coder supports menu (preset templates) which allows user to create a menu style similar to multiAVCHD ver.3 simplest 'classic' menu.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/snapshot20090122163427.jpg

And just how does someone create a menu that looks like that? Are there instructions someplace on how to do that and load that template into mAVCHD?

I prefer to use version 4 for all of the other enhancements.

ADDITIONAL: How about making that simple menu capability standard for 4.x? We may seem like dummies for not knowing that the capability is there, but it seems that users who have been here a while didn't even know that the capability exists. As a new user, I certainly didn't know that. Just because I now know it exists, I still don't know how to implement it.

Capsbackup

11th August 2010, 02:48

deank, I have been trying to make a BD5 backup of 4 separate OTA captures, reencoded to 1080P .ts files, using XMB static menu with my custom bmp picture. I have title one set to hidden, since it is a short intro, then upon finish go to the main menu.
I notice that the menu preview still shows the hidden title.
I have skip top menu playback checked, since I want to play the intro and then go to the menu. This does not happen though. After intro is played, it proceeds to the next title, and then the next two titles before going to the menu. I do not have Play All (sequential playback) checked!
Also, from the main menu if I select to play one title, upon completion of that title, it goes to the next two titles before the menu.
I have set for the three titles, after playback go to menu. It does not though!
I uninstalled multiAVCHD, deleted the folder and downloaded a fresh new version, 763, installed and tried again but still get the same results! :confused:

MrVideo

11th August 2010, 03:00

AVCHD Coder supports menu (preset templates) which allows user to create a menu style similar to multiAVCHD ver.3 simplest 'classic' menu.

Just what exactly do you mean by "similar"? The use of that word just caught my eye.

I went digging into the template folder and from what I can gather, which can obviously be way off-base since I do not know how the program works, it seems that there are only two types of menu displays: xmb or slide

All of the other information fills in the selections in the menu dialogs.

This is the kind of simple menu that I would like, and I believe, what others would like:

http://vidiot.com/images/LotS-Simple-Menu-01.jpg

And when the BD viewer presses the down button, this is what the menu would look like:

http://vidiot.com/images/LotS-Simple-Menu-02.jpg

The PLAY icon moves, not the text.

MrVideo

11th August 2010, 03:27

deank, I have been trying to make a BD5 backup of 4 separate OTA captures, reencoded to 1080P .ts files, using XMB static menu with my custom bmp picture. I have title one set to hidden, since it is a short intro, then upon finish go to the main menu.

In the DVD authoring world, this would be a perfect "first play" item. It is a configurable item, meaning that it does not have to be there. That means it goes to the "main menu".

In mAVCHD, I guessing that it would fit the Welcome item that is there, but unfortunately, I noticed that it can't be configured to play a title.

Sounds like a great enhancement, i.e., allowing the Welcome to be an item from the title list, and if set as the Welcome title, would not appear on any menu.

Capsbackup

11th August 2010, 03:49

The hidden intro is not present on the completed backup's menu, only the multiAVCHD working projects menu preview. Just wanted to point this out, since the menu preview displays this hidden title, which can be confusing, but the finished backup is correct.
This has worked for me very recently, where I have used as many as 4 hidden intros/trailers, and they all played first and at their conclusion it went to the main menu. But for some reason now the titles are playing consecutively instead of going to the menu. I have tried several times now, with the same results though.

deank

11th August 2010, 07:40

You can check with BDEdit what's in index/movieobject. I did no changes in the playback-logic part of multiAVCHD for few months and I wonder why it is not working...

JoeH

11th August 2010, 08:18

I posted a while back about the audio not syncing and still have had no response to the issue... could someone please point me in the right direction to resolve the issues

From what I have seen in the past this type of error is usually caused by some codec / decoder being in use that is not compatible or is wrongly configured.

If I were you what I would try is to uninstall all your codecs, and then install KLite Codec Pack Full, with default options. Select the option to fix all your messed up codecs and always answer yes if KLite tells you there are problems and asks you if you want it to fix them for you.

Then try again.

I know some may not like KLite - I use it and think its great, and I suggest it here because I know for sure that it works just fine with MultiAVCHD and all other Blu-ray programs I have seen.

pio011

11th August 2010, 11:20

Hi Deank,

thanks again for the great update. I have a problem with the new (?) Version, that I have never encountered yet: I have importet three movies directly from bluray structure (on HD) to create a compilation with mAVCHD. All had several audio and subtitle tracks to remove. I wanted to end up with only two audio tracks (english and foreign language) and had set to re-encode HD-Audio to AC3. Also I reencoded the videotracks to fit on one bluray disc. I have done this several times before, all perfect! But this time, everything seemed fine again, but for one thing: All movies had two audio tracks - like I wanted - , but both tracks were the same language!!, e.g. movie 1: both tracks in english, movie 2: both tracks foreign.

Why? Was it because I have imported the tracks directly from the "BDMV/STREAM-folder" instead of importing the mpls file? also: when I opended the properties of the movies, mulitAVCHD could not examine the language of the audio tracks, I had to do this by hand. (I re-checked this with TS-Muxer - there were the language-ids shown!!).
What is wrong? Thanks!

Edit
Something more: If I ad an other Audiotrack in HD-Audio multiAVCHD crashes! If I ad an SD-Audio Track, everything is fine. I tried this with an older version (build 755) it is no problem to ad an HD-Audio Track. :-(

Capsbackup

11th August 2010, 12:05

You can check with BDEdit what's in index/movieobject. I did no changes in the playback-logic part of multiAVCHD for few months and I wonder why it is not working...

Unfortunate for me I am not familiar with BDEdit and its procedures, as I rely / depend upon multiAVCHD to do it all. :(

deank

11th August 2010, 14:38

@pio011: Please use the playlists from PLAYLIST folder and not M2TS files directly. Mark for [full mode] processing and all should be okay.

@Caps: Will you please send me the log so I can try to replicate the problem? In BDEdit it is as simple as changing an object from "Jump Title #" to "Jump Title 0".

Capsbackup

11th August 2010, 15:01

@Caps: Will you please send me the log so I can try to replicate the problem? In BDEdit it is as simple as changing an object from "Jump Title #" to "Jump Title 0".

Log sent via PM. :)

Capsbackup

11th August 2010, 15:35

Dean, I checked with BDEdit, :o , and it appears multiAVCHD did not honor the command return to menu, and after changing the setting for title 1 to "Jump Title 0", it then went to the menu!
So I tried the same for each title number, since they were all set to jump to the next title number, and two of the three now correctly jump to the menu, while title 3, (two if you don't count title 1 hidden), hangs at the very end of play. :confused:

deank

11th August 2010, 16:09

Capsbackup

11th August 2010, 16:54

There must be a problem (again because of the hidden title).

I'll try to replicate it and will try to fix it. Either way, you can set Jump Title 0 (menu) for all titles and it should be okay... may be in the last title/object - first line - you'll have to set a different value for gpr to

MOVE GPR1, 304 (for the last 4th title). It makes the player to execute menu page #4 (playlist 00304.mpls) after it completes the playback of title #4 (playlist 00003.mpls).

I have run the project again, with the same results.(plays all titles consecutively) However, this time after the BDEdit changes, all titles return to the main menu and work correctly. :)
Thank you for the BDEdit tutorial! :p I still prefer multiAVCHD as the " One Do All " ;)
I appreciate your help, and will test any updates to confirm a fix.

deank

11th August 2010, 16:57

Are you sure that in [properties] you have the correct "Action after playback"?

Will you check if all titles (except the 1st hidden one) are set to "Go to menu"? May be something got wrong along the whole importing/retrying. The setting in [properties] will override the [default] one in AUTHOR tab (Play all).

Dean

Capsbackup

11th August 2010, 17:32

Yes, I checked diligently before reporting this time! I tried two different ways, go to menu and default action, but both were the same.

deank

11th August 2010, 17:34

:devil::devil::devil:

:p Thanks... I'll try to fix it later this week along with the 32 second limit for SLI/CAR styles.

Dean

Capsbackup

11th August 2010, 17:43

I just ran it again, rechecked all settings, confirmed all titles were set to return to menu, but no change in the outcome.
Note: I am using XMB menu style for this project with a still static .bmp picture for the menu, no title thumbnails, just a simple text display of the three main titles.

EDIT:
Later I will try this same project on my XP Pro setup rather than the current Win 7 Pro, just to make sure on my end. You never know! :p :)

deank

11th August 2010, 17:49

Capsbackup

11th August 2010, 22:46

:)

Menu style should not affect anything... If you want to waste some more time you can try it without HIDING the 1st title. I'm sorry to ask so much, but I really have no time to test all at the moment.

The lastest compilations I did always had 'return to menu' working. In fact this is the default for all of my compilations. I admit that I've never used hidden titles. :)

I can now confirm the same problem on my XP Pro PC!
( Sorry Dean, it's not me this time! :rolleyes: :p)
If I remove the hidden intro title, the menu is the first to start, so it appears your assumption is correct. Interesting that I used the hidden title feature recently on a backup using Carousel menu, and it worked perfectly. Not sure if it was 2-3 versions ago though.
I reported it here, so this was the time frame, from post # 6163:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744&page=309

By the way, you are not asking much, and my time to waste will be made up for by your improvements and enhancements!! So, any time! :)

pio011

12th August 2010, 09:20

Deank, recently I get these errors, that is probably the reason for my problem posted yesterday:

[03:19:40] Converting DTS-HRA, DTS-MA audio to Dolby AC3 (eac3to), bitrate used: 640...
[03:19:46] eac3to refused to convert audio!
[03:19:46] Trying to demux it...
[03:23:28] Trying to convert DTS-HRA, DTS-MA again with eac3to, bitrate used: 640...
[03:23:30] All attempts failed. Will use original audio track!

Why is that? Thanks!

MrVideo

12th August 2010, 19:59

@Dean:

Any comment on the simple menu enhancement request?

If there is the possibility of it happening relatively soon, I'll stop doing more projects with the current XMB menu. I'll just keep on working getting the videos re-encoded to x264 and get chapter locations.

:thanks:

Beatnut

13th August 2010, 09:49

Hi dean, When trying to make a BD-R in Mavchd with motion title and background image i get an error when creating the 2/2 title image, here is the error:

[10:44:33] Preparing menu pages...

[10:44:34] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/2] [Motion title thumbnail].
[10:46:53] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[10:47:01] Encoding motion SLI menu page [1/2]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).

[10:47:09] Encoding motion SLI menu page [2/2] [Motion title thumbnail].
[10:47:24] Error encoding main menu page #2!

also a message pops up about a problem with the avs file in the temp folder, it then asks for debugg and reporting to the author.

what could be the problem?

MrVideo

14th August 2010, 04:22

I sent a copy of what I recently did to a TV station engineer friend out west and got back a very unexpected report.

He said that the disc played just fine in his computer. But both Panasonic players (DMP-BD30 & DMP-BD60) would not out-and-out reject the disc, but would only go into stop mode. He also has a Sony and it played with no problems.

Firmware is uo-to-date.

Anyone heard of issues playing mAVCHD Blu-ray authored discs on Panasonic players (other than what I am reporting here)?

Music Fan

14th August 2010, 08:54

Yes, you have to chose Strict mode for Panasonic players. If it was done, the problem is maybe the video file (a problem of H264 encoding for example).

MrVideo

14th August 2010, 15:16

Yes, you have to chose Strict mode for Panasonic players. If it was done, the problem is maybe the video file (a problem of H264 encoding for example).

I'll check the strick mode. It won't be the video's x264 encoding as the players won't even display the menu.

chompy

14th August 2010, 20:00

Hi deank,

in re-author mode after remuxing m2ts files with ATC_delta_entries in their clipinf, they lose this data and I don't know if it's related to this or not, but those files are in a seamless branching structure and after re-author one playlist in branching plays fine, but the other has a very small gap in audio between m2ts files.

Greetings

Edit: the problem isn't whit the second playlist, it's the second audio stream, because when I select it the first playlist the gap is also shown. I've kept the DTS core and changed it's order... I'll do some more tests

MrVideo

14th August 2010, 22:24

Yes, you have to chose Strict mode for Panasonic players. If it was done, the problem is maybe the video file (a problem of H264 encoding for example).

In the Author -> General section, the "Stricter AVCHD file format" was checked, so the BD was built with it set.

Music Fan

14th August 2010, 22:33

Ok but you have to chose Strict mode when you export the project.

MrVideo

15th August 2010, 00:06

Ok but you have to chose Strict mode when you export the project.

Where? When I hit the Start button, my next option is to chose the BD-R type.

UPDATE: I think you mean during x264 encoding. If so, then yes, --b-pyramid is set to strict. That said, as I posted, he doesn't even get a chance to play anything, as the menu doesn't even appear.

Music Fan

15th August 2010, 10:21

What is the message of your player when you insert the disc ?
Don't check "Skip top menu playback" in the author tab to be sure that you will see at least the menu, even if the player cannot play the videos.
When you hit the start button, you have to chose "AVCHD strict" if you wanna burn your project on a dvd. If you burn it on a BD, you chose Blu-ray (only one choice for this support).
Panasonic players are exigent with AVCHD, not with BD that they will play even with animated menus (logical for a BD).
Of course, you have to burn it in UDF 2.50 mode. It's easier to do if you let MultiAVCHD launch ImgBurn (that you have to install separately).
Check "use ImgBurn with Dvd/BD" in MultiAVCHD's settings.
Other possible reason of problem : the media itself. Some brands are not readable by all players, and it's impossible to know before testing it, except if you find a list of problematic discs on your player made by someone who tested it.

chompy

15th August 2010, 14:08

MrVideo

16th August 2010, 04:36

What is the message of your player when you insert the disc?

Not my players. A friend out west. I'll ask, but I do not believe there was a message.

Don't check "Skip top menu playback" in the author tab to be sure that you will see at least the menu, even if the player cannot play the videos.

Not checked, as I only have a top menu. No welcome.

When you hit the start button, you have to chose "AVCHD strict" if you wanna burn your project on a dvd. If you burn it on a BD, you chose Blu-ray (only one choice for this support).

Burning Blu-ray only.

Of course, you have to burn it in UDF 2.50 mode. It's easier to do if you let MultiAVCHD launch ImgBurn (that you have to install separately).
Check "use ImgBurn with Dvd/BD" in MultiAVCHD's settings.

Yep, already doing that.

Other possible reason of problem : the media itself. Some brands are not readable by all players, and it's impossible to know before testing it, except if you find a list of problematic discs on your player made by someone who tested it.

Ya, there is that possibility. I think he can burn. I'll have him try duplicating the disc.

deank

16th August 2010, 07:49

I was away for 4-5 days, but I'm back :)

***

About Panasonic BDP - AFAIK there is a problem which I cannot resolve. Version 4.1 menus (excluding 'AVCHD strict' mode) do not work for some reason in Panasonics. I have no explanation about it, yet. Of course it is possible to use [AVCHD strict] mode and burn to BD-R disc - it will then work. All ver 3.x menus work with Panasonic players.

MrVideo

16th August 2010, 19:01

I was away for 4-5 days, but I'm back :)

I hope you enjoyed your time off.

Of course it is possible to use [AVCHD strict] mode and burn to BD-R disc - it will then work.

I'm confused. I do have AVCHD strict mode set, but it didn't work. (Stricter AVCHD File Format).

deank

16th August 2010, 19:07

1st: it is the OUTPUT selection after you click [START] - AVCHD STRICT.

2nd: the option is "STRICT AVCHD FOLDER FORMAT" in AUTHOR tab.

MrVideo

16th August 2010, 19:30

1st: it is the OUTPUT selection after you click [START] - AVCHD STRICT.

That explains why, sort-of.

I'm authoring Blu-ray compatible discs on BD-R. So I'm selecting the Blu-ray option for ANY Blu-ray player.

I ignored the AVCHD area as I'm not making AVCHD format discs. The bitrate I have encoded with is higher than the AVCHD spec.

I'll make one of those after an encoding I am doing is finished. I'll see if it works in my Sony, then I'll send it to him to try.

deank

16th August 2010, 20:17

MrVideo

16th August 2010, 21:56

As I posted before, there is an UN-known problem with Panasonic BDP player models 35/55/60/80... For some reason they don't cope with version 4 menu implementation. Either use version 3 or AVCHD STRICT output and burn to BD-R disc.

Yes, I got all that.

The difference is minor to none.

I kinda figured that the menu/folder layout wouldn't be much different, but I encoded the h.264 video at a rate higher than the avchd spec. If that is a don't care as well....

If there are no current plans to add simple menu layout to 4.1 (as I'm not the only one asking for this), then I might have to find V3.x and see how that simple menu works.

MrVideo

17th August 2010, 02:27

Either use version 3 or AVCHD STRICT output and burn to BD-R disc.

A new AVCHD disc will be sent to him tomorrow. The media played just fine in my Sony.

MrVideo

17th August 2010, 02:35

@Dean

On your home website, the links to download the various versions has an error with V3. It points to Rapidshare, but it errors that the file has been removed.

deank

17th August 2010, 07:48

There is a link in the 1st post for Version 3.0 (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_3.0.exe).

chompy

17th August 2010, 10:29

That's weird, if I keep the original DTS-HD there's no gap in audio between m2ts files, but if I only keep DTS core, I get this anoying gap :mad:

I think I've found a bug (at least with Up Spanish blu-ray edition) in tsMuxeR, and as it's one of the tools used in MultiAVCHD, maybe it could be interesting posting it here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1426693&postcount=3997

deank

17th August 2010, 10:32

Sometime ago users reported such gap-problems with tsMuxeR, although I never experienced such bugs.

A way around is to use eac3to to extract the audio.

chompy

17th August 2010, 11:18

A way around is to use eac3to to extract the audio.

I have the option "Use eac3to" enabled, but it seems that the conversions available don't include "core only", which seems that it's always done with tsMuxeR... ¿Could this option also be added?

Thanks

MrVideo

17th August 2010, 15:21

There is a link in the 1st post for Version 3.0 (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_3.0.exe).

Oh good grief! It is buried within all of the images, instead of being at the top of the post, along with the other links that are there. That is why I didn't see it at first. I did look, though I never expected more links to be buried within the images.

Plus it would be nice to fix the other links.

Cela

17th August 2010, 17:21

The ability to create a simple menu is not within the capability of mAVCHD. As I mentioned in a previous posting, there should be and it should be added as a fourth menu type (Simple/XMB/Slider/Carousel).
...
As others have pointed out, doing a simple compilation Blu-ray disc is not simple with mAVCHD, as a fancy menu must be used and a fancy menu is not necessary ...I agree with you! I'm sure Dean will make us a simple "table-of-contents"-like menu when he will have some spare time. Be sure, he is a genius, but a very busy man, too!

And, look at it from the other side: most video freaks don't care about anything else than just watching their captured and 'imported' video streams as they are! No trimming, no ads-cutting! Nothing! One said: "I want to watch my video, not the menu! Not loose time with editing and other nonsense!"
I guess that is a 90+% majority! From the rest, most like a simple fancy Youtube-/Website-like picturesque "title" menu. Just have a look what fancy stuff you get from CL PowerDirector (and the others in that league).
Not many, you may be among them, care about a chapters menu.
But a plain text menu? NO GO!

I am from last century! I would, in addition to what multiAVCHD already offers, like to get a TOC menu like I have seen in my neighbours C# code book: Titles + chapters in plain text (in the book it is Sections,chapters and paragraphs):
e.g.
4. Text-, binary-, Zip-files // ~ title
4.1 Read text files //~ chapter
4.2 Write text files
4.3 Append text files
....

(To be honest, I would want to have a little more: select a nice background picture, plus some headline and forward/backward controls per title- and chapter-menu page, etc.)

Probably we should discuss a requirements specification for a "simple toc menu" and then ask Dean what he would do for us. Last but not least, menus mean layout and art. You never can please everybody!

When I compare Dean's reaction timescale to that in other fields, than Dean is like a lightning in the thunderstorm! You know what I mean! ;)

And I'am very pleased and happy with what I currently get from multiAVCHD menus! :)

MrVideo

17th August 2010, 18:31

Probably we should discuss a requirements specification for a "simple toc menu" and then ask Dean what he would do for us. Last but not least, menus mean layout and art. You never can please everybody!

As far as authoring (and player) is concerned, a list of something, anything, is a menu.

What you are describing is basically what I am looking for. The inclusion of background (poster) image is a must. But a user selectable must (just like it is now). I posted a sample image of a simple menu, listing the items to play, A simple static menu.

So, I think we are on the same wavelength.

insaneoctane

18th August 2010, 06:12

I'm still working on my Monster AVCHD compilation (1.5TB) and I've resorted to using static menus (boo)...but now I'm getting this weird error, followed by the second error....any ideas?

deank

18th August 2010, 06:59

ERROR 1006 : The volume for a file has been externally altered so that the opened file is no longer valid. (ERROR_FILE_INVALID)

The is an OS error and I have no control over it. It means that something happened with your USB HDD during the final phase - either it can't handle so many read/writes or windows unmounted it for some reason. What OS do you use?

Try to update manually and try again.

insaneoctane

18th August 2010, 07:17

ERROR 1006 : The volume for a file has been externally altered so that the opened file is no longer valid. (ERROR_FILE_INVALID)

What OS do you use?

Even with that error the compilation should work... or you can re-import and re-process without changing anything.

Windows 7 Ultimate

I've tried 3 times with the same error, in the exact same spot.
It does NOT play, because it looks like the playlists are not 8.3 and the PS3 won't recognize them...it looks like it broke before the 8.3 compliance was applied (look at the log window in picture, it happens during the "processing CPI/CLPI files" section.

deank

18th August 2010, 07:25

Try to manually update and try again... As I said - it is an OS problem.

I changed clpi processing a bit + a small fix for welcome screen fadeout (it was cut few frames before the complete fadeout, but now okay).

MrVideo

18th August 2010, 08:42

It looks like no menu type is selected in order to get simple text menus. Where is the tab/location to change the starting position of the title list?

Side note: Another reason why I do not like not using frame numbers for the frame value showed its ugly head. When the chapter files were read in, all of the frame values were set to ZERO. Now I have to figure all of them out by hand.

Cela

18th August 2010, 11:37

...Side note: Another reason why I do not like not using frame numbers for the frame value showed its ugly head. When the chapter files were read in, all of the frame values were set to ZERO. Now I have to figure all of them out by hand.Let your VRD TVSuite4 convert your frame# ".ff' format to ".mss" format and you will have no problems. ;)

IMHO all payware should do the conversions between the popular timecode formats!

For named chapters multiAVCHD should stick to its basic "hh:mm:ss.mss" (milliseconds) standard!

In addition to that, to please frame number fans I would reccomend to employ the pure frame numbers FFFFFF (without the "hh:mm:ss" part).

I like it pure!

Example for 50fps HD footage:
hh:mm:ss.mss (standard for named-chapters textfile !!!)
00:00:00.000 (pure time depending on fps) :)
00:00:00.020
00:00:00.200
00:00:02.000
00:00:20.000

F (pure frame#) :)
0
1
10
100
1000

hh:mm:ss:ff (mixture between time & sub-second Mod(fps)) :(
00:00:00:00
00:00:00:01
00:00:00:10
00:00:02:00
00:00:20:00

P.S.
Just read page 313 again. Dean has already supplied ":ff "! :)
VRD still hasn't got ".mss"!!! And probably never will! Payware!!! :(
But VDR TVSuite 4 is excellent for frame-accurate h.264 TS cutting! :)

raisinberry777

18th August 2010, 13:03

I'm trying to convert a 16:9 1440*1080i MPEG2 file to 1920*1080i AVC using your program, but I'm having an issue.

Whenever I get the options for transcoding files, it automatically thinks that it is 4:3, not 16:9. It only gives me the option to transcode to 1920*1440 and 'uncrop' to 1920x1080, cropping the top and bottom of the squashed picture.

What is the correct way to resize this file properly?

deank

18th August 2010, 13:06

Select the proper resize option from the drop-down list... Scroll down and you'll find "1920x1080" or "1440x1080".

insaneoctane

18th August 2010, 15:30

MrVideo

18th August 2010, 17:54

Let your VRD TVSuite4 convert your frame# ".ff' format to ".mss" format and you will have no problems.

If it were only that simple. 1) the fractional frame value doesn't work for me. I have it set, but it stays with real frame numbers. 2) it is not milliseconds but hundredths, which is horrible accuracy. I have to pull the numbers from the 4.1 version. The professional TV industry does not work with fractional frames, it works with real frame values. I don't know who started this millisecond frame thing, but it isn't industry standard.

For named chapters multiAVCHD should stick to its basic "hh:mm:ss.mss" (milliseconds) standard!

As I mentioned above, fractional frames is NOT industry standard. I had never seen it until mAVCHD.

I like it pure!

Then you should only be using hh:mm:ss:ff - the ONLY timecode nomenclature that is used in the professional television industry. It is what I have been dealing with for 40 years.

Just read page 313 again. Dean has already supplied ":ff "! :)
VRD still hasn't got ".mss"!!! And probably never will! Payware!!! :(
But VDR TVSuite 4 is excellent for frame-accurate h.264 TS cutting! :)

mAVCHD 4,1 will accept :ff as input, but it only displays :mss. I don't blame VRD for not having :mss as it is not industry standard.

deank

18th August 2010, 20:14

A new [SEARCH] button next to title-name field in [properties] allows you to search movie database (free/donate service provided by TMDb http://www.themoviedb.org) for posters and covers and use them for menu background and title thumbnail. Search/service depends on my web-server to execute search queries, so I can't guarantee 100% availability.

.\multiAVCHD\templates\res\tmdb\ folder is used for poster/cover downloads + conversion to BMP, so you may watch its size/contents. It is used for cache and once poster image is downloaded it will be re-used from this same folder to avoid unnecessary download traffic.

There will be some more things to come with this, but I'm not sure what will be useful.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_tmdb_2.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_tmdb.jpg

Available in build 764.

Dean

raisinberry777

18th August 2010, 21:24

Select the proper resize option from the drop-down list... Scroll down and you'll find "1920x1080" or "1440x1080".

I feel like an idiot now! Thanks deank.

MrVideo

18th August 2010, 21:25

@Dean:

Any info on my query about being able to position the text in the simple menu for V3.0?

deank

18th August 2010, 21:31

@raisinberry777: Take your time to look through the options... You'll see you can do a lot :)

@MrVideo: Version 3 is no longer updated or supported. As I posted some time ago, I'll modify the 'classic title-list' menu in version 4 to produce what was the simplest menu in version 3. I hardly find time for multiAVCHD for the last month, but I'll get to it.

Dean

MrVideo

18th August 2010, 23:02

As I posted some time ago, I'll modify the 'classic title-list' menu in version 4 to produce what was the simplest menu in version 3.

Sorry, I must have misunderstood that you added that to your to-do list.

I'll await the update.

:thanks:

insaneoctane

19th August 2010, 01:50

Dean,

Strange. I just tried a completely new project. Single movie. Convert to SD-DVD. Different hard disk for output...and got this error:

Music Fan

19th August 2010, 08:44

As I posted before, there is an UN-known problem with Panasonic BDP player models 35/55/60/80... For some reason they don't cope with version 4 menu implementation. Either use version 3 or AVCHD STRICT output and burn to BD-R disc. The difference is minor to none.
I have an idea : don't you believe that BDEdit could change any parameters and make the project readable by the Panasonic players ?
Or a simpler solution : open and export the project with BDRebuilder in full backup BD-25 mode, assuming that it changes some parameters in the index.bdmv, MovieObject.bdmv, clpi and mpls files.

deank

19th August 2010, 12:39

A slight change for SLIDE menu, when used with [x] Create single-title menu pages option, combined with poster/cover search/download feature. The option is useful when you want to have a better view of the background or/and when creating one-title compilations (one movie). I hope you like it. :)

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SLI_poster_3.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SLI_poster_2.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SLI_poster.jpg

multiAVCHD will add the 'blu-ray-cover' to the image and will use proper frame/resize depending on the image used (portrait or landscape). This small poster image can be also animated (as motion-title-thumbnail). :)

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SLI_encode.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SLI_poster_4.jpg

Dean

deank

19th August 2010, 15:54

I ran multi-update and ran again...same exact error in same spot.

Update manually and try again.

About the second problem - try to disable the preview (close it).

insaneoctane

20th August 2010, 02:27

Update manually and try again.

Can you verify how to "update manually"?

deank

20th August 2010, 07:08

Start multiUPDATE.exe

In the latest update the values for "Main title offset" can be used to move the title-thumbnail in SLIDE menu both horizontally and vertically (when [x] Create single-title menu page option is selected). Title name text is correctly placed above or next to the poster/thumbnail. Title-names with 2 or 3 lines of text are supported, too.

cwh060

20th August 2010, 16:01

dean,

Just did the update, the poster/cover works great!

Couple of notes for those wishing to use.

-Make sure in Menu=>General the transparency slider is all the way to the right.
-As dean mentioned, [x] Create single titles is checked, it's found under Menu=>Extended

cwh

deank

20th August 2010, 17:20

Actually, the slider should be to the far left and user should browse for background POSTER from .\multiAVCHD\templates\res\tmdb\ folder. This way one can use both COVER and POSTER, downloaded via tmdb. :)

The latest update changes access to themoviedb.org - it is now direct to the server and not to my server.

Dean

cwh060

20th August 2010, 18:20

odd, mine has to be on the right and it seems to automatically pull both the cover and poster from the site together. I didn't go searching for the poster, although I see it's in the temp folder.

If my slider is on the left whatever is selected above shows as background plus the cover.....hm

deank

20th August 2010, 18:27

You're right, because what you select in the movie-database-search is used both as background and as title-thumb. If one wants to select the BIG poster as a background (if available) one needs to select it from the folder I posted about and set transparency to 0%. :) That way you get different title-thumb and background (like the WALL-E image I posted above).

Dean

chompy

20th August 2010, 18:49

Deank, the problem I reported some posts back regarding audio gaps in seamless branching jumps when downconverting HD audio tracks with MultiAVCHD are due as I said to a bug tsMuxeR seems to have when downconverting DTS-HD to DTS an TrueHD to AC3.

The solution as you said, is doing these (and only these) downconversions with eac3to, as if I demux video + audio with eac3to, then I'll have gaps in all audio streams (I neither can open the demuxed video with Adobe Premiere, while tsMuxeR demuxed video opens and can be edited perfectly fine).

So right now the workflow needed to get 100% working backups is:
1) Demux video + audio streams not downconverted with tsMuxeR.
2) Demux audio streams downconverted with eac3to.
3) Mux all files with tsMuxeR.

(I'll post this finding in BD-Rebuilder forum as it has the same "problem").

Greetings

EDIT: Just one question, in my player my seamless branching backup works perfect without enabling ATCd with BDEdit, but would it also work in all players or is it better copying original ATCd values in my backup?

Music Fan

21st August 2010, 09:47

Music Fan

21st August 2010, 09:52

Dean, I believe you forgot that question ;) ;
I have an idea : don't you believe that BDEdit could change any parameters and make the project readable by the Panasonic players ?
Or a simpler solution : open and export the project with BDRebuilder in full backup BD-25 mode, assuming that it changes some parameters in the index.bdmv, MovieObject.bdmv, clpi and mpls files.

deank

21st August 2010, 09:58

I think the problem is with the menu m2ts files (9****.m2ts), but I can't find anything wrong with them. It seems there is something panasonic doesn't like and quits playback the moment it loads and executes the menu.

deank

21st August 2010, 10:02

Next update includes some important fixes for poster/cover downloads and user poster images. Sometimes BMP files are saved as .JPG and it causes menu generation/preview to fail. It should be okay now.

Also, Title-list preview will show poster images if available. Posters will be properly displayed and not stretched:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_TL_preview_new.jpg

Cela

21st August 2010, 11:02

... I don't know who started this millisecond frame thing, but it isn't industry standard...Maybe I did it concerning multiAVCHD, ;)
But it started long before me!

What is industry standard? USA? Europe?
Maybe it originated from the fact that DVB TS packets (in Europe only?) have PTS (presentation time staps - not frame stamps!) to establish the packet sequence and to synchronize video and audio. PTS, as far as I have read, is based on a fps independent ticks time format. There are many experts in doom9 forum who can give you more details.

For me it started in now 'antiquated' but never surplussed program ChapterXtractor back in 2001.
(By the way, ff was added in ChapterXtractor in 2002.)

See screenshot assembly "TC-Formats-Conversions_35pc_g.jpg"!
1. Open an IFO
2. Select Preset for output
3. Get otput format from preset -> Get converted tc format in tc pane
4. Copy&Paste to .txt notepad file
5. Copy&Paste .txt <-> .xls if you need to edit the .txt
6. Use approriate .txt variant in your authoring program

Now I use 'antiquated' but never surplussed Mpeg2Schnitt for this task.

What we need is an up-to-date, universal TC-Converter/Calculator! Pay ware, e.g. Excel, VideoReDo, should have it included. But hasn't!
I planned to make a little TC-Converter/Calculator tool myself. Not quite myself! Being only a user I need a programmer. My neighbor’s son, who usually helps me, is not available these days (girlfriend, first job!). So it will take some time to start that private project.

Dean is a very busy man! If Dean had time, it wouldn't take him long!

Everyone is welcome to step in! ;)

That is all I can contribute to this matter!

chompy

21st August 2010, 11:51

@ chompy : Do you have this downconverting problem when you let MultiAVCHD use TSMuxer or also when you use TSMuxer separately before using the file in MultiAVCHD ?
I ask that because I had this kind of problem and I noticed that it worked well when I used at first TSMuxer (checking "keep core only") and then importing the file without HD audio.

I have the problem always: using before, after or with built-in MultiAVCHD process, because the problem is not how tsMuxeR is used/called but how tsMuxeR downconverts HD audio streams. I cannot test TrueHD (mrr19121970 has done some tests and he has the same results), but the DTS core downconverted from DTS-HD isn't compliant with DTS standard (has something in its lasts bytes that corrupts the file).

deank

21st August 2010, 11:55

@Cela: Email me what you need from this convertor and I'll create a small GUI for it.

***

Quick note: next build 765 will include something else, too. A prompt will appear when user loads MKV files muxed with newer mkvmerge or mkv2rls (x264). Because these files may cause troubles for tsMuxeR, multiAVCHD will prompt if you want to remux the file before loading.

Dean

deank

21st August 2010, 13:45

Cela

21st August 2010, 14:28

@Cela: Email me what you need from this convertor and I'll create a small GUI for it...Thanks in advance, Dean. :)
Am busy over the weekend. Will send you an email on Monday.

deank

21st August 2010, 18:20

I think it is time to add a simple menu for multiAVCHD's DVD output. Since multiAVCHD supports only ONE title in SD-DVD video mode I decided to add the latest simpler SLIDE style menu as a default one:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_DVD_menu.jpg

The menu is static, with background and cover and has only one button "Play". :rolleyes: I'll get to it probably next week.

@Capsbackup: I created 2 compilations with hidden titles and couldn't replicate the problem you had :(

Dean

Capsbackup

21st August 2010, 19:25

@Capsbackup: I created 2 compilations with hidden titles and couldn't replicate the problem you had :(
Dean

Interesting. :confused: I have now tried two more different titles, and I get the consecutive title play of all hidden titles and then the main title before it will go to the menu. I have made sure I have everything set up correctly too. Checked and double checked! :p
I have been using your BDedit tutorial to fix them, to go to the menu after the final hidden title is played, before the main title is played! :)

deank

21st August 2010, 19:58

If you can find the time, please describe each step you take and I'll follow and I guess I'll get to the problem. :)

Dean

Capsbackup

21st August 2010, 21:43

If you can find the time, please describe each step you take and I'll follow and I guess I'll get to the problem. :)

Dean

First, Add video files, 4 titles, by mpls, each created with BD-RB.
Under compilation, set title 1, 2 and 3 to hidden. Title 4 is my main feature and only non-hidden title. Set After playback for titles 1 and 2 to go to next title. Set After playback of title 3 to go to menu. Set After playback of title 4 to go to menu.
Go to Author tab, and under Menu Style and Options select Create Top Menu, Slide Menu. Under Playback Sequence, select Skip Welcome Screen and Skip Top Menu Playback, and Action After Last Title: Display Menu.
Under Menu tab/General, select Default menu type - static. Backround Image - my custom 1920x1080.bmp. Also select Create Chapter Menu Page and Create audio/subtitle setup pages.
As I mentioned before, this has worked for me on a previous multiAVCHD version. It just has not worked since then.
I reported it here, so this was the time frame, from post # 6163:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744&page=309

MrVideo

21st August 2010, 23:52

What is industry standard? USA? Europe?

Worldwide video production. Even film, telecined to video, is referenced using frame numbers (:00 -> :23).

DVB, any format, is not based on video editing/production timecode standards.

But, once the video is placed into a file for editing, DVD authoring, Blu-ray authoring, etc., the timecode is in :FF, not in :mss.

Go into any production house, anywhere in the world, and the editing/authoring program used will display in :FF. All of the time code displays on any of the video tape decks, or video servers, will be in :FF.

I've never run across anything that used anything other than :FF in my 40+ years dealing with video.

deank

22nd August 2010, 00:23

Things change. Bare MPEG2 Transport Stream (m2ts/mts) uses 45kHz clock and it has nothing to do with frames. Playlist/chapter references use 90kHz clock. No mater what your source framerate is, the clock denominator is the same - that's it.

Plus - (the industry standard in mind) - multiAVCHD is a "hall"-room application. I program it, that's it.

Dean

MrVideo

22nd August 2010, 02:14

What MPEG-2/MPEG-4/next gen does internally has nothing to do with what the human interface is with editing software, etc.

The fact that mAVCHD can deal with :FF time codes when reading in chapter lists makes me happy.

Once simple title list menu capability is added, mAVCHD will be the cat's meow.

setarip_old

22nd August 2010, 04:21

@MrVideo

Hi! Once simple title list menu capability is added, mAVCHD will be the cat's meow.Actually, I and many others who have watched multiAVCHD blossom since its nascent stage, have long been impressed with the creativity and tireless effort of "deank". The continuing tremendous expansion of this tool's capabilities has been nothing short of remarkable - and I, for one, could not offer "deank" sufficient praise.

Not only is multiAVCHD already "the cat's meow", it's "the cat's whiskers" and "the cat's pajamas" as well ;>}

MrVideo

22nd August 2010, 07:09

The continuing tremendous expansion of this tool's capabilities has been nothing short of remarkable - and I, for one, could not offer "deank" sufficient praise.

Don't get me wrong. I totally agree with what you've posted, though it may not seem like it at times.

I've never understood the "cat's pajamas", since cats don't wear pajamas and pretty much hate having anyone putting clothes on them. Dogs... that is another story. :D

deank

22nd August 2010, 18:33

So, multiAVCHD got its own menu for SD-DVD output :) It turned out that it is much easier to add than expected (thanks to the great application Muxman). It will be available in the next update, along with some fixes related to 'hidden' titles.

Dean

setarip_old

22nd August 2010, 19:30

@deank

Would that it were that simple for HD-DVD structure, eh? ;>}

deank

23rd August 2010, 07:37

:) Although not that simple - it is possible. There is no evo muxer and no menu generator for HD-DVD... I guess multiAVCHD can become the fist app to support menu for HD-DVD, too. :rolleyes:

Let me finish with SD-DVD and I'll give it a try.

Dean

JoeH

23rd August 2010, 08:25

setarip_old

23rd August 2010, 08:27

@deank I guess multiAVCHD can become the fist app to support menu for HD-DVD, too.Naah, I was just teasing you ;>}

As you well know, without chapterizing and time control (and, ultimately, original subtitles), a menu would be pointless...

deank

23rd August 2010, 08:30

:devil: :p I wouldn't count on the subtitles, but may be chapters... who knows...

colinhunt

23rd August 2010, 09:36

Dean,

I'm having lots of problems with the latest version on Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate. First, I couldn't even get it to install without running the installation program as Administrator. I then had to turn UAC completely off to get multiAVCHD do anything except give error messages. Am I missing something here?

deank

23rd August 2010, 09:40

There are absolutely no changes to cause this.

Probably it depends on the folder/drive where you install it.

colinhunt

23rd August 2010, 09:44

There are absolutely no changes to cause this.
Sorry, should not have mentioned "with the latest version". I've had this same problem on W7 64-bit Ultimate for several weeks now; I actually stopped using multiAVCHD entirely because of that. This is also the third W7 64-bit Ultimate installation I've tried to run multiAVCHD on.

Probably it depends on the folder/drive where you install it.
It's in "C:\Program Files (x86)\multiAVCHD" now. Should it be installed on another drive or something?

deank

23rd August 2010, 09:51

colinhunt

23rd August 2010, 11:47

It is better to use c:\multiAVCHD or d:\multiAVCHD for example... Also you can create .\multiAVCHD\_TEMP folder and set it security properties to allow full access not only to admin account... You can also try to set privileges to all .exe files in tools folder... I don't know what else...
I created an "Applications" directory on another physical drive and installed multiAVCHD in it. Running first re-authoring process right now, seems to be working fine so far.

deank

23rd August 2010, 12:50

Simple SLIDE menu added in build 766 (if [x] Create top menu option is enabled) for SD-DVD mode.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_dvd_menu_sli_bsg.jpg

Dean

Beatnut

23rd August 2010, 13:39

is there a deinterlacing feature in mavchd? or any tool that can do that that is in the package?

i got a 1080i video that i want to transcode to 720p

deank

23rd August 2010, 13:43

multiAVCHD will automatically deinterlace your video. If 1080i is BFF you may want to set it in [properties]/[alter detected properties].

Beatnut

23rd August 2010, 13:49

thanks, ill try and let you know if it worked, keep up the good work.

MrVideo

23rd August 2010, 15:37

@deank Naah, I was just teasing you ;>}

Thank goodness. No offense, but a few of us would rather see the simple menu support added than support a format that is dead. :D

Beatnut

23rd August 2010, 15:55

Worked like a charm, you are the man.

deank

23rd August 2010, 16:56

:thanks:

laserfan

23rd August 2010, 17:03

:) Although not that simple - it is possible. There is no evo muxer and no menu generator for HD-DVD... I guess multiAVCHD can become the fist app to support menu for HD-DVD, too.without chapterizing and time control (and, ultimately, original subtitles), a menu would be pointless..Ulead MF6+ with HD plugin will do all of these; yes, HD-DVD, with (motion, sound) menus, and chaptering, and subtitles. Maybe you should buy/send deank this program for him to look at, or just get it for yourself and leave the poor guy alone! You're beating a dead horse! :p

@Dean, thank you for this post. The coffee wasn't enough, this got my heart started this morning!!! :eek: :D

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_dvd_menu_sli_bsg.jpg

colinhunt

23rd August 2010, 17:44

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_dvd_menu_sli_bsg.jpg
Somehow the tagline "Watch. Learn. Play. Enjoy!" gets a new meaning with this photo.

setarip_old

23rd August 2010, 21:11

To the couple of naysayers regarding "deank" acknowledging the possible creation of finishing touches to the HD-DVD functionality (which has been a working part of "multiAVCHD" for far longer than standard DVD functionality and MANY of the menu enhancements, subtitle conversion, 3D tool, etc.) - the word to think about is "Cinavia".

If "Cinavia" proves to be extremely difficult to break (although rumors to the contrary abound), we may soon see it used on the majority of new BluRay releases - and it won't faze me at all, since an HD-DVD backup of a BluRay that contains "Cinavia" protection will happily play on alternative hardware and software systems that know nothing about "Cinavia".

In light of this, should "deank" choose to finish the development of the HD-DVD function of "multiAVCHD", I think that would be wonderful. On the other hand, should he choose not to pursue this, I would still be very thankful that, at its current stage of development, I'm able to make "movie-only" HD-DVD backups of any and all BluRay discs that I purchase (And, of course, there are still "tons" of commercial HD-DVDs available for purchase for as little as $1US each ;>}).

Just another way to make certain that my grandchildren (the list is growing) never have a reason to even think of touching any of my original, commercial discs...

MrVideo

23rd August 2010, 22:42

Just another way to make certain that my grandchildren (the list is growing) never have a reason to even think of touching any of my original, commercial discs...

ROTFLMAO

1) the grandchildren count is growing (meaning your kids haven't figured out what causes babies :D )

2) you have the discs in a location where they can get at them.

setarip_old

24th August 2010, 01:41

@MrVideo

1) We prefer the word "PROLIFIC" ;>}

2) No, they can't get at them - but that won't necessarily stop them from trying...

dvd_maniac

24th August 2010, 04:06

This looks great. I want to put a whole bunch of AVCHD video onto a BD-R for playback on my PS3.
What is the max amount of video (in hours) I can fit onto br-r (25GB) using this program?

Capsbackup

24th August 2010, 04:44

This looks great. I want to put a whole bunch of AVCHD video onto a BD-R for playback on my PS3.
What is the max amount of video (in hours) I can fit onto br-r (25GB) using this program?

The max amount is about 23.6GB, so depending on your reencoding bitrate, (quality) audio type and size, this can vary.
I have done 2 hour, high quality backups to BD5, so I would think 10 - 12 hours is reasonable with 448kbps to 640kbps AC3 audio. :cool:

Music Fan

24th August 2010, 08:35

@ setarip_old : do you burn your Hd-dvd project on real Hd-dvd discs or we can burn it on dvd (like BD-5) ?

deank

24th August 2010, 08:41

Yes, he is using regular DVD5 and DVD9 with a Toshiba A2/A3 HD-DVD player. The problem at the moment is that multiAVCHD can't create menu, doesn't support chapters and subtitles and supports only one audio track (ac3).

Music Fan

24th August 2010, 08:47

Thanks for this fast response.
Hd-dvd is a good idea if this Cinavia protection becomes really problematic. But we have to buy a Hd-dvd player of course ...

titof

24th August 2010, 14:17

hi everybody
I'm trying to test MultiAVCHD but I've an error when I try to open the extended properties of a media : helpful:

AVSinfo.exe says (It's in French) :
L'instruction à "0x73aa5e67" emploie la mémoire "0x00000000". La mémoire ne peut être "read".

I try to translate : The command at "0x73aa5e67" use the memory "0x00000000". The memory can't be "read"

Help
I can't do nothing

deank

24th August 2010, 14:27

Just to wrap-up with this SD-DVD menu, the next update will include, some features I programmed today:

* Static and Motion DVD menu (32 seconds limit atm)
* Default or no background audio
* User background audio (ac3 only)
* Motion title thumbnail (32 seconds)
* Motion background (I need to test it a bit more and I'll release the build)

DVD menu will occupy about 15MB only.

In other words you'll get quite the same as in regular Blu-ray/AVCHD modes, so one can create almost identical DVD-Video discs with nice menu along with the Blu-ray/AVCHD copy.

Dean :)

@mpucoder: Can you help me a bit: Can I put a command in .hcn file (or elsewhere) to force 1st subtitle track to show at start of Title#1 playback?

titof

24th August 2010, 16:28

I didn't install AVIsynth
I'm to bad...

deank

24th August 2010, 17:28

Build 766+

* Static and Motion DVD menu + background audio

Just like other HD menu styles, SD DVD mode supports all combinations: static menu, motion background + motion title thumbnail, static background + motion title thumbnail and motion background + static title thumb (poster).

I don't know how much interest there is in SD DVD output from multiAVCHD and for now I'll assume that current features are sufficient for regular users. Converting a Blu-ray movie to SD DVD is quite simple and supports up to 8 audio and 8 subtitle tracks, the chapters, background audio and poster, cover and motion 'trailer-cuts' video background. I believe that's quite enough for almost 'one-click' solution for a HD to SD conversion.

Dean

rendez2k

24th August 2010, 21:22

I think I'm being a bit stupid! How do you select the image for the bluray box? I use the search function and select cover but its not showing up? Also, my preview bluray box appears to be half-size? I see in say your Wall-E example, it looks like a full hight box?

deank

24th August 2010, 21:37

1st, make sure you have the proper version of avisynth (2.58).

2nd, [use poster] and [use cover] do the same - the set current "POSTER" image for a title as a BACKGROUND.

To get what is in WALL-E screenshot you have to select [use cover] and then go to MENU tab and select the proper image (from .\multiAVCHD\templates\res\tmdb\ folder) as BACKGROUND and set 'transparency' to 0% (far left slider position).

It was explained some posts above.

The [search] function itself downloads some JPG files in the aforementioned folder, so you can select it as BG or title-thumb picture. In one of the next builds I'll add a prompt if user want so use the [USE POSTER] image as background in custom menu preset.

Dean

mpucoder

25th August 2010, 03:01

@mpucoder: Can you help me a bit: Can I put a command in .hcn file (or elsewhere) to force 1st subtitle track to show at start of Title#1 playback?

I'm not familiar with .hcn files, they are not inpput to MuxMan. There are 2 ways a subtitle can be enabled, by force or by default. Forcing involves the commands within the subpicture stream as well as SetSTN in the PGC. Defaulting can be done with SetSTN alone.

What process is being used to create the .mxp file?

rendez2k

25th August 2010, 07:39

deank

25th August 2010, 08:51

I'm not familiar with .hcn files, they are not inpput to MuxMan. There are 2 ways a subtitle can be enabled, by force or by default. Forcing involves the commands within the subpicture stream as well as SetSTN in the PGC. Defaulting can be done with SetSTN alone.

What process is being used to create the .mxp file?

I'm using Batchmux to the .mxp file. .hcn contains for example

set ::vmg::menupages 1
set ::vmg::menutype(1) 1
set ::vmg::titlebut(1) 1

JoeH

25th August 2010, 11:46

Dean, as far as SD functionality goes, it is quite good. I think the main thing that is missing is that the language codes be applied for subtitles and audio. I haven't tested the latest version, but I remember that with previous versions all languages codes would be blank in the SD-DVD, and they would all appear as "unknown". Ideally when resizing a Blu-ray, multiAVCHD would read the language codes from the selected tracks in the DVD and apply the correct language codes in the new DVD automatically.

Capsbackup

25th August 2010, 15:32

deank, I just made a backup that included three hidden titles, all 480i trailers from a Blu-ray source mpls, and one main feature, 1080p from a BD-RB backup.
The consecutive title play before going to the menu is still there, so I don't believe that was part of the last update. However, I noticed that I am also unable to select the two available subtitles that are present on the Setup page.
They are listed, English and Spanish, but the highlight button is unable to select either. The only available highlights are the one and only audio track and the (X) to close the page. :confused: It just passes around the actual two subtitle options.

NOTE: I can select the subtitles during playback thru the remote, and they do work. Just not thru the setup menu page.

EDIT: If I remove the subtitles and add them back via add external subtitles, it still does not make them selectable thru the setup menu page, but they do work when playing the movie back thru the remote, as stated above. :confused:

cwh060

25th August 2010, 17:02

JoeH

25th August 2010, 17:17

Panasonic has released a new firmware for the BD60/BD70. The version for the BD35 is not yet out, but they are usually not far behind.

I am away from my Panasonic for a few more weeks, but if anyone could test it out and see if it finally resolves the problems with MultiAVCHD that would be appreciated.

Capsbackup

25th August 2010, 17:19

capsbackup,

I too have had problems with hidden titles not playing. The program simply goes to the main menu, or just sits there with a black screen (in TMT3). I have not pursued it much, because I rarely use hidden titles.

Used 1 hidden title and 1 Main movie.

cwh

If you want to play a hidden title first, before going to the main menu, you need to select Skip top menu playback under playback sequence under the author tab.
The problem I am having is even though I select this, all hidden titles play and then the non-hidden titles play before it will go to the menu. ( I do not have Play All (sequential playback) selected though!)
I have set go to next title for all of the hidden titles except the last hidden title, which is set to Go to Menu. However, multiAVCHD is not doing what I ask! :p

meatwad

25th August 2010, 21:55

metabolicsaint

25th August 2010, 22:29

Beatnut

25th August 2010, 22:55

How do you enable 3D transcoding? I've gone through the settings and changed it to stereo left/right for shutter glasses, but every time I import a file to transcode the check box in the transcoder for 3D anaglyph won't let me check it. I've been searching the forums but I guess I'm not using the correct phrasing.

you need a valid 3d source to transcode to 3d, a video cant be made 3d out of a 2d video, you need 2 sources, 1 for the left eye, and 1 for the right eye.

meatwad

25th August 2010, 23:48

you need a valid 3d source to transcode to 3d, a video cant be made 3d out of a 2d video, you need 2 sources, 1 for the left eye, and 1 for the right eye.

I was afraid of that. Thanks.

deank

26th August 2010, 09:13

First, Add video files, 4 titles, by mpls, each created with BD-RB.
Under compilation, set title 1, 2 and 3 to hidden. Title 4 is my main feature and only non-hidden title. Set After playback for titles 1 and 2 to go to next title. Set After playback of title 3 to go to menu. Set After playback of title 4 to go to menu.
Go to Author tab, and under Menu Style and Options select Create Top Menu, Slide Menu. Under Playback Sequence, select Skip Welcome Screen and Skip Top Menu Playback, and Action After Last Title: Display Menu.
Under Menu tab/General, select Default menu type - static. Backround Image - my custom 1920x1080.bmp. Also select Create Chapter Menu Page and Create audio/subtitle setup pages.
As I mentioned before, this has worked for me on a previous multiAVCHD version. It just has not worked since then.
I reported it here, so this was the time frame, from post # 6163:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744&page=309

Followed your steps 2 times (1st with [x] Play all and 2nd [-] Play all - just in case, although it shouldn't matter). Both times 1,2,3 hidden titles play one after another and then the top menu is displayed. [] Play launches the movie (title #4).

I can see that there is a problem with SETUP/CHAPTERS menu pages, because the menu-programming was never thought to work with hidden titles :( That's a though one and I think I'll rewrite the code for hidden titles cases.

Still the playback flow is correct and the only thing I can think of is that at some point multiAVCHD cannot correctly write into movieobject.bdmv during the authoring phase.

deank

26th August 2010, 09:14

I have been using MultiAVCHD for sometime now but lately after updates when i load a .mp4 file and try to go into properties it will freeze up and If I do get into properties transcode button will freeze. If I skip all that and click "Fit All" and its about to encode it will just sit there for hours upon hours not even move, never had this problem before but now it does it all the time.

Check your FFDSHOW settings for 'allowed applications'. Probably it halts multiAVCHD/avsinfo/x264/mx264... or simply reinstall ffdshow and avisynth...

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/downloads/

You can download multiTEST and check your PC decoding capabilities, too.

Dean

deank

26th August 2010, 11:05

The latest update adds something requested long time ago:

* It is possible to use MKV/M2TS/MTS/TS files as 'background video' for WELCOME SCREEN

Using video file for background will auto set 'audio' to the same file to use its own audio.

Welcome screen duration is 1 to 30 seconds. If slider is moved to the far right (31) background video will not be cut, but used with its original duration.

Background video file must have AR of 16:9, otherwise it will be distorted by the mandatory resize to 1920x1080. Framerate should be 23.976/24/25/29.97/30fps.

Dean

deank

26th August 2010, 13:14

Want it or not, HD-DVD static menu is ready, too... It is fully customizable, just like the SD-DVD one (static only though with one PLAY button).

@setarip: It will be available in the next update and I'll appreciate if you can test it in your Toshiba player. :) Make sure that you have '[x] Create top menu' option in AUTHOR tab. Menu style selection doesn't matter.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_base_HDDVD_menu.jpg

I tested it with Nero Showtime and it works just fine.

deank

26th August 2010, 15:26

Build 767:

* Full-download (http://download.videohelp.com/deanbg/multiAVCHD_4.1.exe) or DAT-update (http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/datupdate/) required
* HD-DVD static menu
* Motion Welcome screen

With this update multiAVCHD supports menu for all available authoring formats:

* Blu-ray
* AVCHD
* SD DVD (DVD-Video) and
* HD DVD (3xDVD)

Dean

Capsbackup

26th August 2010, 15:29

Followed your steps 2 times (1st with [x] Play all and 2nd [-] Play all - just in case, although it shouldn't matter). Both times 1,2,3 hidden titles play one after another and then the top menu is displayed. [] Play launches the movie (title #4).

I can see that there is a problem with SETUP/CHAPTERS menu pages, because the menu-programming was never thought to work with hidden titles :( That's a though one and I think I'll rewrite the code for hidden titles cases.

Still the playback flow is correct and the only thing I can think of is that at some point multiAVCHD cannot correctly write into movieobject.bdmv during the authoring phase.

I am stumped! :p I tried v763 on my XP Pro OS, and I get the same consecutive title play thru all titles before the menu is displayed even though I have selected go to menu after the last hidden title is played. So it happens on that version for me as well.
The same with the latest update on my Win 7 OS. Two separate OS's with the same results? :confused: It would appear then it is on my end. Running BDedit on the backup will correct this, so I guess I will just have to deal with it!

It would be interesting, at least to me, if someone else could run a test with the same parameters and report their results.
For me, it is if the consecutive title play is "stuck" or not following the optional settings available.
So if anyone could try out 3 to 5 short titles as we have discussed here and let us know it would be greatly appreciated. :)

cwh060

26th August 2010, 17:56

If you want to play a hidden title first, before going to the main menu, you need to select Skip top menu playback under playback sequence under the author tab.
The problem I am having is even though I select this, all hidden titles play and then the non-hidden titles play before it will go to the menu. ( I do not have Play All (sequential playback) selected though!)

Your right, I did not have the "Skip top menu playback" selected. Once I did this everything worked.

I made an AVCHD project using 3 SD titles, 2 hidden and 1 Main (I Transcoded all titles to 4k bitrate) It worked as expected, the hiddens play first in the order I selected, then it went directly to the menu page. From there I could select the Main Title, Chapters etc.

This project was a simple single title movie, because I was using the Cover/Background features.

If you like I can try with more main titles and see what happens?

cwh

MrVideo

26th August 2010, 18:50

I told my friend about the Panasonic update and he applied it to the newer unit and the Blu-ray disc that didn't play. now plays. I've asked him the model number of the one that is fixed. The other, older unit, doesn't have a network connection, so he has to apply the firmware via CD.

deank

26th August 2010, 19:24

JSERLE

26th August 2010, 20:26

I am getting an error when MultiUpdate tries to upgrade DAT to 767.

ERROR: multiAVCHD.dat version/structure error!Update!

At that point I need to re-install 4.1 and avoid the update. Are others having this problem.

On a separate issue. I want to copy a large 41g BD disc with no loss of quality, split over 2 25g BD discs. I have an abundant supply of 25g BDRe discs, but no 50g ones. How would you do it using MultiAVCHD or other reliable tools?

deank

26th August 2010, 20:42

If you read the previous post you'll find a link for the DAT file. Download and extract in your multiAVCHD or perform full download from the link in the 1st post. multiAVCHD updates only multiAVCHD.exe and not the DAT. You need to download it yourself and use it with build 767.

About volume split. Load your movie playlist (mpls) and set "Media split size" in AUTHOR tab to 23000 then after you you click [START] you select "Volume split: [yes each 23000mb]".

Dean

MrVideo

26th August 2010, 22:52

It will be a really great news if Panasonics can finally play multiAVCHD 4.x authored structures. I wonder why it took nearly 8 months to 'fix' compatibility with my baby-tool :) I'd love a confirmation that we're talking about [Blu-ray] or/and [AVCHD relaxed] modes and not [AVCHD strict] one.

It is the first disc that I sent him, the Blu-ray build that it wouldn't play. I sent him an AVCHD strict disc, priority mail, but he has not received it yet. So much for Priority mail being 3 days at most. So, he can't even test the AVCHD build yet.

Capsbackup

27th August 2010, 01:14

Your right, I did not have the "Skip top menu playback" selected. Once I did this everything worked.

I made an AVCHD project using 3 SD titles, 2 hidden and 1 Main (I Transcoded all titles to 4k bitrate) It worked as expected, the hiddens play first in the order I selected, then it went directly to the menu page. From there I could select the Main Title, Chapters etc.

This project was a simple single title movie, because I was using the Cover/Background features.

If you like I can try with more main titles and see what happens?

cwh

Thank you for your test. I don't think it is necessary to proceed anymore.

Dean, I removed the "hidden" feature from my backups titles, rearranged my title order so that my main feature is title 1 followed by the previously hidden 2, 3, and 4 titles. I removed the selected "Skip top menu playback", and just let my backup start at the main menu. This works, and the previously unavailable to select subtitles for the main feature are now selectable. :)

I have been trying to emulate the look of an original Blu-ray, which is why I chose to have the intro hidden titles play first, followed by the main menu, and then be able to select to play the main title or the "extras" that are part of my Title Menu.
I did not want to be able to see/select the hidden titles again from the Title Menu, only the remaining non-hidden titles of my backup were to be present in that menu.

Is this a possibility, perhaps a custom menu template?
Several files are imported as titles for the backup. Title #1 will be the only title associated with "Play Movie".
The "Setup" and "Chapters" menu is also only associated with this title #1.
An additional Menu page, call it "Extras" or "Bonus", will have all other titles listed here. ( but not title #1) If a title from this menu page is selected, it will play to conclusion and return back to this menu page for selection of the next title within. There will be a button to return to the Main Menu as well.

:) :p I really don't ask for much!! :rolleyes:

I am quite pleased with the features of multiAVCHD, and think it is EXCELLENT the way it is. :D
However, additions like the aforementioned request would put multiAVCHD above a level no other program has reached! :cool:

MrVideo

27th August 2010, 01:59

The model number of the Panny that now works is: DMP-BD60

No update yet for the DMP-BD30 (if it is updated).

setarip_old

27th August 2010, 07:26

@deank

See your email...

deank

27th August 2010, 07:57

@Capsbackup: The latest feature with motion 'welcome screen' can take care of 1 (hidden) intro title, so for the time being you can use it.

JoeH

27th August 2010, 08:08

The model number of the Panny that now works is: DMP-BD60

No update yet for the DMP-BD30 (if it is updated).

That's great news Mr. Video! Thanks for the test. Hopefully Panisonic will release the firmware update for the BD35/55 models soon, and the Panasonic nightmare will be finally over...

Is anyone aware of whether Blu-ray players from Sharp have the same problems? I think I remember someone telling me so, but I can't confirm. Of course, practically no one has Sharp Blu-ray players so even if it is the case it's not so important.

deank

27th August 2010, 08:45

Some Samsung models wouldn't play multiAVCHD 4.x structures, but few months ago there was a firmware update from Samsung and it fixed it. Not sure about the Shaprs.

Music Fan

27th August 2010, 10:20

The model number of the Panny that now works is: DMP-BD60

No update yet for the DMP-BD30 (if it is updated).
I see that message the day I receive my new ... Sony Player (370).:rolleyes:
I got a Pana BD35 until today.:D

deank

27th August 2010, 10:32

Some time ago there were few camcoder users, who requested eac3to to be used instead of tsdemux when joining MTS/M2TS files (in join mode when dragging a folder with mts/m2ts files only).

Now the JOIN SELECTION window has two buttons:

[join with tsdemux] and [join with eac3to].

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_join_selection.jpg

Dean

worknstiff

27th August 2010, 12:47

Hi Dean, I am really impressed with multiAVCH. I have not used it lately and upgraded from 3.0 to version 4.1. I had an animation bluray with 40 titles that I added and created a simple static menu. The program worked absolutely perfect and after creating poster images and subtitles menu's for all 40 titles. It really is a great piece of blueray kit that is incredibly complex but still is simple enough for me to use, lol. I had previously used the 3.0 version to make menu's with just 4 episodes or so of some series blurays and after creating the Bluray I would feed it to BD_Rebuilder to compress it down to fit a BD-9. I was really surprised when BD_Rebuilder refused to open this latest compilation. It says it is an invalid bluray structure, so I went back and finished it using Strict Avchd disk instead of Blueray disk output. It now loads into BD_Rebuilder but now it shows like 3 different playlists (all of them incorrectly showing 15 min run times) to choose from and no audio. Is the 4.1 version not Bluray compliant or has BD_Rebuilder changed?

deank

27th August 2010, 12:57

I don't think there is a problem in multiAVCHD...

Just in case, check "AUXDATA" folder and remove "multiAVCHD.mpf" file if there is one there.

About the playlists - if there was something wrong, it wouldn't work in blu-ray players and viera tv.

I'll download bdrebuilder and try it myself if it is not related to the project (mpf) file in AUXDATA folder.

(I just tried with one-title compilation + menu, etc and bdrebuilder accepted it...)

worknstiff

27th August 2010, 13:55

Hi Dean, I appreciate your quick response to my question. I got so mad at the other computer when it failed to load my disk into BD_Rebuilder that I just cut it off and watched some tv last night. I had spent all afternoon putting all 40 of the titles into multiAVCHD and customizing the audio and title info that I was sick of the computer. I just fired up the AV computer now and it loaded the bluray compilation into BD_Rebuilder just fine. I have no idea why it would not work yesterday but right now BD_Rebuilder is happily churning along on the files. I will let you know if it is playable in my ancient Panasonic BD30 player when I burn it. I did notice that after changing the UNK audio streams in all 40 files to ENG in multiAVCH that BD_Rebuilder still had them all listed as UNK again, but is not really worth mentioning. I really love your program, thanks again for all your hard work. Donation will be sent shortly, Thanks again, worknstiff

deank

27th August 2010, 13:59

worknstiff

27th August 2010, 14:07

I think that was why I was using the 3.0 version and it has always worked for the static menu's before. Do you think I should use it again instead of the 4.1? Also I just checked my paypal account and it is low on funds but just send more should be there by Sept 1.

Capsbackup

27th August 2010, 14:38

@worknstiff;
You need to use lower case "eng", and then select change for the new language to keep. :)

Capsbackup

27th August 2010, 14:42

@Capsbackup: The latest feature with motion 'welcome screen' can take care of 1 (hidden) intro title, so for the time being you can use it.

OK, I will take a look. :)
Does my "wish list idea" of a custom menu template have any potential?

MrVideo

27th August 2010, 15:45

Have in mind that not all Panasonic players support multiAVCHD's 4.x menu in Blu-ray/AVCHD-relaxed modes. The firmware update from few days ago fixes it for BD60/80 (and probably 45/65/85) but no words for 30/35 models.

Correct. My friend only has the 30 and 60 models, so those are the only ones I can confirm.

Other models will have to be tested by other users.

MrVideo

27th August 2010, 15:47

I got a Pana BD35 until today.:D

There wasn't any new firmware posted for the BD30, which probably includes the BD35, so the problem still exists.

Doesn't mean there won't be, but as of a few days ago, there wasn't.

pio011

27th August 2010, 17:11

now the join selection window has two buttons:
[join with tsdemux] and [join with eac3to].
Dean

great!!!!!

Music Fan

27th August 2010, 18:36

There wasn't any new firmware posted for the BD30, which probably includes the BD35, so the problem still exists.

Doesn't mean there won't be, but as of a few days ago, there wasn't.
I had understood, but I guess that there will be a new firmware for the BD35 soon.

Ghitulescu

27th August 2010, 18:44

Maybe coupled with Cinavia, who knows....

MrVideo

27th August 2010, 21:47

I had understood, but I guess that there will be a new firmware for the BD35 soon.

Place your bets. The BD30/BD35/whatever might be on Panny's no longer supported list.

My 2 cents is that they won't release an update, be that right or wrong.

setarip_old

27th August 2010, 22:20

As alluded to in post #6539, if you use your standalone player for playing backups of commercial BluRay discs, you should be very careful in detrermining whether you should/have to install any firmware updates, as doing so MAY make future backups susceptible to "Cinavia" watermark protection.

I say "MAY" because it is not presently known whether "Cinavia" can be added to existing hardware via firmware updates or whetrher it requires modified/added hardware components...

deank

27th August 2010, 22:33

It certainly is possible - Playstation3, which has only 256MB RAM was silently updated to support Cinavia...

deank

27th August 2010, 22:57

Does my "wish list idea" of a custom menu template have any potential?

It is very hard to implement :( It is something I'm thinking for some time - nested structure / folders / categories. It is almost the same as what you wish.

Still, you can use [x] Create single-title menu pages option with motion welcome screen. It will show your 'movie title' only in the menu. Of course scrolling left/right (or up/down) will show the 'extras' as additional menu pages.

setarip_old

28th August 2010, 01:19

@deank

Hi!It certainly is possible - Playstation3, which has only 256MB RAM was silently updated to support Cinavia... Although your statement is correct, I believe you'll find that since the PS3 is a "hybrid" piece of hardware, the knowledgable folks have not determined that what is possible to do with/to a PS3 can also be done with/to a pure standalone BluRay player...

alluringreality

28th August 2010, 02:17

I tried to reauthor the HDMV from http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12373254#post12373254 (Encore CS4 Blu-ray) to AVCHD with multiAVCHD. I burned the output from the strict AVCHD option to disc. When I played the disc with PowerDVD 10 I got a black screen for the menu. We had this same issue with PowerDVD playback when we tried to use AVCHD-Patcher to get the HDMV to be identified as AVCHD, although PowerDVD plays menus from AVCHD discs produced by commercial software without issue. Do other people get menus that display correctly when playing AVCHD discs from multiAVCHD on PowerDVD? Any ideas on this or is it a known issue?

setarip_old

28th August 2010, 08:02

@deank

A llittle refresher course please, regarding conversion to anaglyph 3D - Can the video source material be simple left/right stereoscopic pairs, or is there something special about the "new" 3D?

deank

28th August 2010, 09:16

@alluringreality: I know of no such issue. Try [Blu-ray] or [AVCHD relaxed] modes.

@setarip: 3D conversions work only for 3D Blu-ray disc titles. If you wish you can create a simple avisynth script to create anaglyph from 2 left+right files and load it in multiAVCHD.

setarip_old

28th August 2010, 10:05

@deank 3D conversions work only for 3D Blu-ray disc titlesI'm aware of that - but I was under the impression that 3D BluRays were comprised of left/right stereoscopic video.

I know nothing about Avisynth scripting. I just wanted the satisfaction of (I thought) finding a few stereoscopic trailers (which I did), loading them into my favorite ever-blossoming tool - and watch it churn out an anaglyph version.

As far as actual "new 3D" BluRays (not the Panasonic demo), I haven't been able to locate any yet.

Oh well...

deank

28th August 2010, 11:25

Open notepad and paste:

allR=directshowsource("c:\path_to_right_file.mkv")
allL=directshowsource("c:\path_to_left__file.mkv")

movieR=allR.ConvertToRGB32
rED=allL.ConvertToYV12.tweak(bright=-8, sat=0, cont=0.8).blur(1.56).ConvertToRGB32
bLUE=showBlue(movieR)
gREEN=showGreen(movieR)

mergeRGB(rED, gREEN, bLUE).ConvertToYV12

Replace the paths with those to your left and right files. Save as .avs file and import it in multiAVCHD.

Dean

alluringreality

28th August 2010, 16:55

@alluringreality: I know of no such issue. Try [Blu-ray] or [AVCHD relaxed] modes.

I went ahead and tried these as suggested. All three were burned to DVD media, and they all play the same in PowerDVD Ultra. The menu shows as a black screen, and only the outline for the active selection can be seen.

To see if this was possibly related to the Encore authoring I thought I would test a commercial Blu-ray. I reauthored Austin Powers 1 and trimmed the movie so that it would fit on DVD. I set the output to AVCHD strict and burned to DVD media. PowerDVD would not play the disc. The disc would play on my Sony standalone player, but it will play a lot of modified discs that other players have issue with.

I also tried authoring a couple .264 files and using the multiAVCHD menu. PowerDVD plays the AVCHD strict disc for about a second and then it goes to a green screen.

My computer passes multiTest. I'm running the lastest PowerDVD 10 Ultra version. This issue appears to be similar to the problem with AVCHD-Patcher discs reported for both PowerDVD 8 & 9 Ultra. We also received reports of issues with the AVCHD-Patcher modifications on a couple Samsung players, but I don't currently have access to those players to see if the issues also show up in the multiAVCHD output. It is possible to get PowerDVD to play an image of the discs mounted by Virtual CloneDrive, but it just seems like something may not be fully-compliant considering PowerDVD plays AVCHD discs from commercial authoring software.

Note: The AVCHD from the prior link will play in PowerDVD from DVD media and was created by the first version of TotalMedia Extreme.

Ghitulescu

28th August 2010, 17:09

Software players are not the right tool to test BD & AVCHD disks. Use a real player.

alluringreality

28th August 2010, 17:51

Players can vary on what they will and will not play. I can make a number of changes to files that my Sony will ignore, but those same changes will stop other players from working. The easiest thing I've found for troubleshooting playback issues on a wide range of players is to find the exceptions, or the players that have issues, and focus on what may be causing the issue. I have to assume that PowerDVD has enough users to consider it a worthy candidate for looking into why it plays AVCHD from commercial authoring software but is unable to play an output that has been labeled AVCHD. Basically my interest is just to have HDMV and AVCHD versions that will work on the largest number of players possible. It would be great if multiAVCHD would allow me to do that without having to author two versions, but currently that doesn't seem to possible because on my first test the same player issue came up as when we tried to use AVCHD-Patcher. Our project has probably only had a few thousand users, but I'd certainly be willing to put in some sort of acknowledgment if it was possible to convert the HDMV into an AVCHD version that would play on PowerDVD.

setarip_old

28th August 2010, 18:53

Replace the paths with those to your left and right files.As usual, I guess I haven't expressed myself clearly.

I don't have separate left and right files. The samples I managed to find are SINGLE files already containing left/right stereoscopic pairs in each frame.

I'll just wait until a new commercial 3D DVD (or trailers of same) become available.

As always, thanks for your effort to increase my knowledge ;>}

setarip_old

28th August 2010, 19:03

@alluringreality

Hi!Our project has probably only had a few thousand usersWhat is this project?

alluringreality

28th August 2010, 20:36

Hi!What is this project?

The project is AVS HD 709 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12373254#post12373254). The AVCHD is showing about 25k downloads since the revision last year. That's not a lot of advertisement, but if multiAVCHD or AVCHD Editor could convert HDMV to AVCHD with menus that's playable in PowerDVD I'd be glad to include a logo.

deank

28th August 2010, 21:02

There must be something wrong going at your end...

3-4 years ago I think it was the same LINK I was redirected to to download AVCHD for a first time to test HD with my PS3.

Please contact me via email. The address is in the ABOUT tab of multiAVCHD.

Dean

deank

29th August 2010, 08:58

As usual, I guess I haven't expressed myself clearly.

I don't have separate left and right files. The samples I managed to find are SINGLE files already containing left/right stereoscopic pairs in each frame.

I'll just wait until a new commercial 3D DVD (or trailers of same) become available.

As always, thanks for your effort to increase my knowledge ;>}

If your video contains LEFT+RIGHT in one frame (left half for left eye and right half for right eye),

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_stereoLR.jpg

then you can tweak the script to look as:

video=directshowsource("c:\path_to_stereo_file.mkv")

all=video.crop(int(width(video)/2),0,0,0).lanczosresize(1920,1080).ConvertToRGB32
rED=video.crop(0,0,(-1)*int(width(video)/2),0).lanczosresize(1920,1080).ConvertToYV12.tweak(bright=-8, sat=0, cont=0.8).blur(1.56).ConvertToRGB32
mergeRGB(rED, showGreen(all), showBlue(all)).ConvertToYV12

I'll add a drop-list in [alter detected properties] where user can select if input video is stereo left/right, right/left, top/bottom, bottom/top, which will allow conversion to other anaglyph/stereo modes. :)

deank

29th August 2010, 12:23

1) Load your video
2) Set preferred OUTPUT 3D mode in SETTINGS (in my case Red/Cyan)
3) Open [properties] and then click [alter detected properties] and select the format of your video (in my case Stereo Left/Right)

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_CA1.jpg

NOTE: Never change this option when processing REAL 3D Blu-ray playlist/title. The option is useful only for files, which have LEFT/RIGHT, TOP/BOTTOM, INTERLACED (or vice verse) left and right stereo frames encoded in a SINGLE frame.

3) Open [transcode]

You'll see your original video but now the [Create 3D anaglyph] option is enabled:
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_CA2.jpg

4) Click [x] Create 3D anaglyph and you'll get a preview for the output mode you selected in 2):
http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_CA3.jpg

NOTE: When using REAL 3D Blu-ray discs/titles PREVIEW will not reflect the real output mode (but will show the LEFT eye only).

Dean

p.s. I just noticed that there are some 3D videos encoded in Stereo Interlaced format:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_CA4.jpg

I'll add [Stereo Interlaced Top=Left] and [Stereo Interlaced Top=Right] source formats, too. [added]

setarip_old

30th August 2010, 00:25

Absolutely delightful!

Thanks for dumbing it down so that even I can follow ;>}

Although it means nothing at this point (I'm just enjoying the video conversion), I noticed that those samples (all stereoscopic, either left/right or top/bottom) that had audio lost synch after converting to anaglyph...

BTW -Other than by simple experimentation, is there a way of determining whether left/right or right/left (and likewise for top and bottom) BEFORE processing?

deank

30th August 2010, 09:01

BTW -Other than by simple experimentation, is there a way of determining whether left/right or right/left (and likewise for top and bottom) BEFORE processing?

The only way to know for sure is to look at the preview in [transcode] with your red/cyan (or other) glasses. If it looks wrong you change the input type (for example from Left/Right to Right/Left).

About audio-sync... multiAVCHD can't handle very well audio (MP2/MP3) in AVI container...

alluringreality

30th August 2010, 20:21

I just wanted to say thanks to deank for the software and help. After a few days I was able to put together a solution for the issue I was seeing when trying to re-author the Encore HDMV to AVCHD. Anyway, here are the steps if there's any interest from others in modifying the Encore CS5 output.

1 - Begin with an Encore CS5 BDMV folder
2 - Modify menu Playlist for AVC using BDedit
3 - Transcode the menu from Mpeg2 to AVC
4 - Modify the menu Clipinf for AVC and changed packets
5 - Use multiAVCHD re-author mode and output to AVCHD strict
Note: Encore CS4 uses different menus and this process will not work on the older version

Edit: The above process will not play on Panasonic players as AVCHD (only Blu-ray media), apparently because the menu is not in-mux as required by AVCHD. The standard in-mux output from Encore with not play as AVCHD from PowerDVD, due to how Encore outputs mpeg2 menus. The method from http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1460405#post1460405 with an AVCHD re-author may play from both Panasonic and PowerDVD using DVD media.

titof

31st August 2010, 10:01

I've got a Panasonic BD-30 (updated) and a BDT300 and I can see the menu...
Is there a list of the compatibilities of the 4.1 and 3.0 version of MultiAVCHD ?

Thanks

deank

31st August 2010, 10:21

All versions up to 3.1 (incl) are compatible with all players. Version 4.0 and 4.1 with [AVCHD strict] authoring mode, too. [AVCHD relaxed]/[Blu-ray] modes cause troubles for some Panasonic players. There was a report that recent firmware updates from panasonic fixed the issues with some models (no info for BDP30/35).

Dean

deank

31st August 2010, 10:25

1 - Begin with an Encore CS5 BDMV folder
3 - Transcode the menu from Mpeg2 to AVC

Note: Encore CS4 uses different menus and this process will not work on the older version

How did you reencode the menu from MPEG2 to AVC? Was the menu-video in a separate file from the menu-navigation (IG)?

Dean

alluringreality

31st August 2010, 16:30

How did you reencode the menu from MPEG2 to AVC?

1 - Demux with tsMuxeR
2 - Transcode from Mpeg2 to AVC
3 - Mux to m2ts with tsMuxeR and replace in STREAM

Was the menu-video in a separate file from the menu-navigation (IG)?

It would seem to be that way in CS5, because tsMuxeR didn't report an error and the navigation still works. With the CS4 output both the menu background and navigation seem to be in the m2ts, because there was an error from tsMuxeR and the navigation was lost with the above steps.

deank

31st August 2010, 22:54

Right, I asked because there is no other way unless the menu video is separated from the navigation. Good thing CS5 does the out-of-mux menus and I'm really glad you got it working. :rolleyes:

Post back with any suggestions and thank you for the project (AVS HD 709 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12373254#post12373254)) you share with us for the last 3+ years.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z109/alluringreality/small2.png (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12373254#post12373254)

Dean

Cappy

1st September 2010, 13:42

Hope you can help me out. I am using your multiAVHC mostly with great success. But I have hit a snag. When uncropping the MKV from a perfect source it turns out pixulated as end result. I have tried many of the options and the size of the end file is about the same but very pixulated as it plays ... any suggestions.

Trying to change a 1920/800 to a 1920/1080 for a bluray disc. I have tried Ripbot and Megui with the same result ... however the original version is perfact ?

setarip_old

1st September 2010, 18:42

@Cappy

Hi!Trying to change a 1920/800 to a 1920/1020 for a bluray disc.For BluRay it should be 1920x1080...

Cappy

1st September 2010, 22:12

@Cappy

Hi!For BluRay it should be 1920x1080...

Sorry thats what I meant to type .... 1080p

However I did try a program called BDtoAVCHD and it did what all other programs failed to do .. perfect output file .. strange ...

MrVideo

1st September 2010, 22:48

Trying to change a 1920/800 to a 1920/1080 for a bluray disc. I have tried Ripbot and Megui with the same result ... however the original version is perfact ?

I'm assuming that it is 1920x800 because someone decided that the letterbox bars of a 2.4:1 film needed to be removed and now they need to be put back in order to make it 1080p HD compliant.

It seems to me that you might need to create an AVISynth script that feeds the x264 encoder directly to add black bars above and below (140 pixels each bar) the image.

Another reason why I don't care for the removal of letterbox bars on HD material, as it can come back and bite you in the ass.

insaneoctane

2nd September 2010, 04:40

Why does MAVCHD created thumbnails when I've deselected creating a menu?

See settings and log below:
Look starting at the [23:40:47] *** Extracting 28 chapter thumbnails...

[23:15:43] Initialising...
[23:15:44] Checking for new version...
[23:15:44] You have the latest build.
[23:15:44] Consistency check finished!
[23:15:44] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[23:15:44] 1 year and 248 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[23:15:44] 354 people supported it with donations
[23:15:44] and you are the 2351109 one to launch the program...
[23:15:44] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[23:15:44] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04010767]
[23:16:35] *** Scanning playlist (00800.mpls). Please wait...
[23:16:36] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[23:16:36] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 01:28:09.742] [00:00:11.650]
[23:16:39] *** Detected media file: [00800.m2ts, 01:28:09.701] (24392 MiB)
[23:16:39] *** Playitem size exceeds split point of 4000 MiB (set in Author tab).
[23:16:39] *** Playlist marked for full processing mode. (split/join)
[23:16:39] *** Detected chapters #: 00:00:00.000;00:06:57.500;00:10:02.810;00:11:30.022;00:14:34.498;00:18:22.476;00:19:34.840;00:21:45.220;00:24:40.645;00:29:19.841;00:31:30.096;00:33:44.021;00:37:25.534;00:42:20.037;00:43:51.128;00:45:45.200;00:49:25.629;00:52:28.270;00:55:22.694;00:59:18.012;01:01:34.273;01:04:30.867;01:06:39.203;01:08:27.770;01:11:19.775;01:14:08.402;01:17:05.203;01:21:23.837;01:28:09.492
[23:16:39] *** Playlist duration : 01:28:09 (24392 MiB)

[23:20:28] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[23:20:29] Destination [G:]: NTFS, 134839.25 MiB (131.679 GiB) free space
[23:20:29] Temp folder [C:]: NTFS, 393587.45 MiB (384.363 GiB) free space

[23:20:29] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.1 (build 767)
[23:20:29] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)

[23:20:29] Processing one title...
[23:20:29] Existing G:\OUTPUT\AVCHD_MARMADUKE\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[23:20:29] Output will be written to: G:\OUTPUT\AVCHD_MARMADUKE-20100831-232029
[23:20:29] Processing PLAYLIST (full mode) (split/join) (F:\_RIPS_\MARMADUKE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00800.mpls)...
[23:20:29] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[23:20:30] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[23:20:30] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[23:20:30] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[23:20:30] Only this video track will be used!
[23:20:30] Detected media file: 00800.m2ts
[23:20:30] Detected main PI#000: 00800.m2ts, Duration: [01:28:09.742], [PTS: 00:00:11.650 / 01:28:21.393]
[23:20:30] Using audio: A_DTS (ID#4352 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[23:20:30] Using subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[23:20:30] Using subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[23:20:30] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:06:57.500;00:10:02.810;00:11:30.022;00:14:34.498;00:18:22.476;00:19:34.840;00:21:45.220;00:24:40.645;00:29:19.841;00:31:30.096;00:33:44.021;00:37:25.534;00:42:20.037;00:43:51.128;00:45:45.200;00:49:25.629;00:52:28.270;00:55:22.694;00:59:18.012;01:01:34.273;01:04:30.867;01:06:39.203;01:08:27.770;01:11:19.775;01:14:08.402;01:17:05.203;01:21:23.837;01:28:09.492 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "F:\_RIPS_\MARMADUKE\BDMV\STREAM\00800.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, lang=eng, fps=23.976, mplsFile=00800
A_DTS, "F:\_RIPS_\MARMADUKE\BDMV\STREAM\00800.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms, mplsFile=00800
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\_RIPS_\MARMADUKE\BDMV\STREAM\00800.m2ts", track=4608, lang=eng, mplsFile=00800
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\_RIPS_\MARMADUKE\BDMV\STREAM\00800.m2ts", track=4609, lang=spa, mplsFile=00800
===============================================================================
[23:28:53] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[23:30:18] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[23:31:41] Media transfer: 00002 -> 00002.m2ts
[23:33:06] Media transfer: 00003 -> 00003.m2ts
[23:35:46] Media transfer: 00004 -> 00004.m2ts
[23:37:13] Media transfer: 00005 -> 00005.m2ts
[23:39:12] Processing playlist...
[23:39:12] Title #1 added: "MARMADUKE"
[23:39:12] Verifying title...
[23:39:28] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 2 subtitle tracks

[23:39:28] Preparing authoring information...

[23:39:28] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[23:39:28] Creating title thumbnails for 1 titles (XMB)...
[23:40:47] Using 28 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[23:40:47] *** Extracting 28 chapter thumbnails...
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #2 [00:06:57.500] set for thumbnail at [00:06:57.500]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #3 [00:10:02.809] set for thumbnail at [00:10:02.810]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #4 [00:11:30.022] set for thumbnail at [00:11:30.022]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #5 [00:14:34.498] set for thumbnail at [00:14:34.498]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #6 [00:18:22.476] set for thumbnail at [00:18:22.476]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #7 [00:19:34.839] set for thumbnail at [00:19:34.840]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #8 [00:21:45.220] set for thumbnail at [00:21:45.220]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #9 [00:24:40.644] set for thumbnail at [00:24:40.645]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #10 [00:29:19.840] set for thumbnail at [00:29:19.841]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #11 [00:31:30.096] set for thumbnail at [00:31:30.096]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #12 [00:33:44.020] set for thumbnail at [00:33:44.021]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #13 [00:37:25.534] set for thumbnail at [00:37:25.534]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #14 [00:42:20.036] set for thumbnail at [00:42:20.037]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #15 [00:43:51.128] set for thumbnail at [00:43:51.128]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #16 [00:45:45.199] set for thumbnail at [00:45:45.200]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #17 [00:49:25.628] set for thumbnail at [00:49:25.629]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #18 [00:52:28.269] set for thumbnail at [00:52:28.270]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #19 [00:55:22.693] set for thumbnail at [00:55:22.694]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #20 [00:59:18.012] set for thumbnail at [00:59:18.012]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #21 [01:01:34.273] set for thumbnail at [01:01:34.273]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #22 [01:04:30.867] set for thumbnail at [01:04:30.867]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #23 [01:06:39.202] set for thumbnail at [01:06:39.203]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #24 [01:08:27.770] set for thumbnail at [01:08:27.770]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #25 [01:11:19.774] set for thumbnail at [01:11:19.775]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #26 [01:14:08.402] set for thumbnail at [01:14:08.402]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #27 [01:17:05.203] set for thumbnail at [01:17:05.203]
[23:40:47] *** Chapter #28 [01:21:23.837] set for thumbnail at [01:21:23.837]
[23:42:46] *** Chapter #2 [00:06:57.500] set for thumbnail at [00:06:57.500]
[23:43:38] *** Chapter #3 [00:10:02.809] set for thumbnail at [00:10:02.810]
[23:44:21] *** Chapter #4 [00:11:30.022] set for thumbnail at [00:11:30.022]
[23:45:23] *** Chapter #5 [00:14:34.498] set for thumbnail at [00:14:34.498]
[23:46:05] *** Chapter #6 [00:18:22.476] set for thumbnail at [00:18:22.476]
[23:47:05] *** Chapter #7 [00:19:34.839] set for thumbnail at [00:19:34.840]
[23:48:05] *** Chapter #8 [00:21:45.220] set for thumbnail at [00:21:45.220]
[23:49:06] *** Chapter #9 [00:24:40.644] set for thumbnail at [00:24:40.645]
[23:50:18] *** Chapter #10 [00:29:19.840] set for thumbnail at [00:29:19.841]
[23:51:17] *** Chapter #11 [00:31:30.096] set for thumbnail at [00:31:30.096]
[23:52:16] *** Chapter #12 [00:33:44.020] set for thumbnail at [00:33:44.021]
[23:53:20] *** Chapter #13 [00:37:25.534] set for thumbnail at [00:37:25.534]
[23:54:19] *** Chapter #14 [00:42:20.036] set for thumbnail at [00:42:20.037]
[23:55:21] *** Chapter #15 [00:43:51.128] set for thumbnail at [00:43:51.128]
[23:56:23] *** Chapter #16 [00:45:45.199] set for thumbnail at [00:45:45.200]
[23:57:43] *** Chapter #17 [00:49:25.628] set for thumbnail at [00:49:25.629]
[23:58:52] *** Chapter #18 [00:52:28.269] set for thumbnail at [00:52:28.270]
[23:59:43] *** Chapter #19 [00:55:22.693] set for thumbnail at [00:55:22.694]
[00:00:56] *** Chapter #20 [00:59:18.012] set for thumbnail at [00:59:18.012]
[00:02:28] *** Chapter #21 [01:01:34.273] set for thumbnail at [01:01:34.273]
[00:03:54] *** Chapter #22 [01:04:30.867] set for thumbnail at [01:04:30.867]
[00:05:28] *** Chapter #23 [01:06:39.202] set for thumbnail at [01:06:39.203]
[00:06:46] *** Chapter #24 [01:08:27.770] set for thumbnail at [01:08:27.770]
[00:08:16] *** Chapter #25 [01:11:19.774] set for thumbnail at [01:11:19.775]
[00:09:40] *** Chapter #26 [01:14:08.402] set for thumbnail at [01:14:08.402]
[00:10:56] *** Chapter #27 [01:17:05.203] set for thumbnail at [01:17:05.203]
[00:11:52] *** Chapter #28 [01:21:23.837] set for thumbnail at [01:21:23.837]
[00:12:55] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[00:12:55] Preparing menu pages...

[00:12:55] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[00:13:06] Setting main menu for 1 titles...
[00:13:06] Title List menu will be displayed after title #1.
[00:13:06] Playback will start with title #1 (MARMADUKE).
[00:13:06] Setting menu properties...
[00:13:06] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[00:13:06] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[00:13:06] Completed.
[00:13:08] Preparing AVCHDTN database...
[00:13:14] Database and index created!
[00:13:14] Setting FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[00:13:14] Done!

[00:13:14] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[00:13:14] G:\OUTPUT\AVCHD_MARMADUKE-20100831-232029\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. MARMADUKE [01:28:09]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 01:28:09
Output size : 23353 MiB (22.806 GiB)

[00:13:14] G:\OUTPUT\AVCHD_MARMADUKE-20100831-232029 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[00:13:15] Rename G:\OUTPUT\AVCHD_MARMADUKE-20100831-232029 to AVCHD and copy it to root of USB stick/disk or to X:\PRIVATE\ of SDHC/SD/MMC card.
[00:13:16] You may now remove temp folder (C:\Program Files (x86)\Video\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100831\).
[00:13:16] Your compilation contains 1hrs 28min 9sec of video material.

[00:13:16] multiAVCHD finished in 3167.085 seconds (00:52:47.084)!

[00:13:16] End of log.

deank

2nd September 2010, 08:52

Because they are needed for the 'titile-list' menu. Untick [-] Add title-list menu and you're done.

stevensf

2nd September 2010, 10:17

hello.

First : MultiAVCHD is a great tool

my question : Is it possible to add an option for replace the video in the bluray edit mode, like the audio or subtitle tab ?

by example, a new 'Video' tab where you can choose the new video stream to replace the original... will be great for people who use external x264 to resample menu or movie

tx for all !!!

deank

2nd September 2010, 10:35

Yes, it was requested by another user some time ago (archie_here I think). I'll add it in the next update. :)

stevensf

2nd September 2010, 11:03

great :D

Keep up the good work...

deank

2nd September 2010, 11:20

It is almost ready... It supports MKV, M2TS, MTS, TS, MPEG/MPG and raw 264/M2V/VC1 files as video-replacement tracks.

Let me test it and I'll put it out.

stevensf

2nd September 2010, 12:58

great :)

deank

2nd September 2010, 14:02

The option to replace video track is in [alter detected properties] window in [properties].

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_AL_VID.jpg

Once you start reauthoring, you'll see notes in the log:

[16:00:04] Entering Blu-ray re-author mode...
[16:00:04] *** Transferring structure...
[16:00:05] *** Processing media files...
[16:00:05] *** [00000.mpls] - Remuxing playlist...
[16:00:05] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:00:40
[16:00:06] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[16:00:06] Detected resolution: 1280x720
[16:00:06] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[16:00:06] Only this video track will be used!
[16:00:06] Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
[16:00:06] Video track replaced with [D:\BenQ-GreenIsland-tw(45mbps).mpg]!
[16:00:06] *** V_MPEG-2 - 1920x1080, 29.970 fps
[16:00:06] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4352 / language: eng / delay: 23)
....
[16:00:39] *** [00000.mpls] - Applying changes...
[16:00:39] *** Checking playlists and media dependencies...
[16:00:40] *** [00000.m2ts] 1920x1080i, 29.970fps [00:00:39.838]
[16:00:40] *** Caching all playlists...
[16:00:40] *** Caching completed!
[16:00:40] *** Applying changes to linked playlists...
[16:00:40] *** [00000.mpls] - Applying changes...

As you can see in the log above, the original playlist/title is 1280x720 AVC/H.264, but it is replaced with one from an external MPEG2 file with resolution 1920x1080 MPEG-2 29.970fps.

Give it a try and let me know.

Dean

p.s. The option is available only in Blu-ray disc re-author mode. Once you load the external video file (track) click [OK] and do not change anything. multiAVCHD will detect the properties of the video and will update the title. If there is something wrong you can re-enter [alter detected properties]. Have in mind that raw/elementary streams (264, M2V, VC1) are always set to duration: -1. Do not alter it if you don't know the exact duration of your clip.

deank

2nd September 2010, 16:07

A bit off-topic: Since Playstation3 finally got h*cked to run homebrew applications, may be it will be possible to program AVCHD player (similar to SMS player for Playstation2) to support multiple AVCHD folders from USB HDD and even to play them off the internal HDD... :) or EVEN play files, not natively supported by the console.

stevensf

2nd September 2010, 16:09

good... seems to work fine...

good playback on PC with total media theatre, on PS3 and on a stand-alone player

good job man :)

P.S. : just a litle litle bug... when you select another video for a title on the "video track:", first time you see < original >, but for the other title even if you kept original, you see the last selected video... not easy to explain sorry :)

deank

2nd September 2010, 16:11

Thanks for your great support, worknstiff!

worknstiff

2nd September 2010, 22:50

You are very welcome and wish I had more to give. I wish everyone that can would donate to help the cause along. I can't think of any other (free) way to take episodic disks and put all the titles back on one BD-9 and have a simple menu to select audio & subs and be playable on my old BD-30. I think MultiAVCHD is great and appreciate all the work you have put into it. I have been thinking of upgrading to a newer model panasonic but it really just keeps chugging along and the PQ of the newer BD60's or 80's is still the same. I really have no interest in internet access for my player so I will wait untill it dies to upgrade.

PS: I finished the 40 title animation project (strict AVCHD) disk over the weekend and it turned out great except at the very end. After I compressed it to a BD-9 with BD_Rebuilder it got to the very last m2ts file and threw up an error about unable to open file for remuxing. After you click the error dialog box BD_Rebuilder finishes and the BD is playable but when you select the last title in the menu it crashes. The m2ts that it references is also unplayable when selecting it from the streams folder. I decided to replace it with the one from the original (multiAVCHD) folder but it will not play it from the menu, the m2ts does however play if you select it so it seems the problem is in BD_Rebuilder. It seems there is something BD_Rebuilder does not like about just the last m2ts playlist or menu page. It maybe just my PC but I am still pleased with the BD-9 I created with it, it is only missing the last 4 minute video. thanks again, worknstiff

deank

3rd September 2010, 13:38

If you replace the mpls file you'll have to replace the m2ts and the clpi, too... (or if you replace the m2ts you need to put its clpi from the original, too). I wonder what error bd-rebuilder reported.

***

Something I added today. It will make things easier when importing Blu-ray discs or AVCHD folders in normal mode (not for re-authoring). Untill now multiAVCHD will automatically load all playlists it finds with duration bigger than the one set in AUTHOR tab. Now, when you import a structure you'll get a window, which displays all playlists, their duration, chapter count and number of segments per playlist. The window will show if the structure contains 3 or more playlists.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_folder_import_1.jpg

Playlists are sorted LONGEST to SHORTEST which allows the user to import only the longest one (usually the main movie) or the 3 longest playlists or just all (longer than the value set in AUTHOR tab).

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_folder_import_2.jpg

This addition may speed up the loading if user wants only the main movie and not the rest of the stuff, plus one can take a quick look at what is going to be imported before wasting 10-15mins for a scan. As you can see in the screenshot above, the longest playlist is in fact a menu which loops for 999 times and if multiAVCHD tries to scan the playlist it will take almost 30 seconds, which is unnecessary. You can simply remove it (or any other playlist) and then import what you want.

The status line shows the number of playlists and their overall duration.

Dean

deank

3rd September 2010, 21:02

Hey there, folks! :)

* Fixed: Crash with some MKV embedded chapters.
* Fixed: Crash with 'videoMODE' and 'videoEXT' parameters uninitialized errors
* Added: Some new CROP options (marked with %W) to horizontally pad/crop videos in [transcode] window
* Added: Option in [properties] / [alter detected properties] in RE-AUTHOR mode to replace playlist/title video track with external video from MKV/M*TS/TS or raw 264/VC1/M2V streams
* Added: Pop-up window for blu-ray/avchd structure import, which allows selection of the playlist with longest duration and to remove playlists before proceeding to structure import

The updates for the last week are now available in Build 768.

Dean

p.s. Greetings, Professor Falken. Shall we play... a nice game of chess?

LowDead

4th September 2010, 01:04

p.s. Greetings, Professor Falken. Shall we play... a nice game of chess?

hmm, have you put an easter egg in? :rolleyes:

bc55

4th September 2010, 11:05

Hi Dean

couldn't find this back, so I'm posting a new question.

Do I need to re-encode audio on my titles ? I have many HD movies recorded off TV, which are already compliant ( 1920x1080 / AC3 ), but every time I try to author an AVCHD from them ( they are M2TS files ), TSMUXER returns weird errors and the audio encoding fails.

The files play perfectly on my PC, and the analysis of MultiAVCHD yields no probs, yet it still doesn't work.

Thanks

deank

4th September 2010, 11:10

What error does tsmuxer return when you process your files?

Try to demux and remux to see if it fixes the problem.

bc55

4th September 2010, 11:41

What error does tsmuxer return when you process your files?

Try to demux and remux to see if it fixes the problem.

Well,

it tells me some tracks were not recognized ( the audio track is then missing ). It gets the X264 video ok though.

When I open the file and add it to my MultiAVCHD project, everything checks out great ! No red, no re-encoding necessary, but the audio track isn't recognized.

In VLC Media Player, I get this info :

Stream 0
Type: Video
Original ID: 4113
Codec: H264 - MPEG-4 AVC ( part 10) (h264)
Resolution: 1920x1080
Framerate: 50

Stream 1
Type: Audio
Original ID: 4352
Codec: A52 Audio (aka AC3) (a52)
Channels: Stereo
Samplerate: 48000Hz
Bitrate: 384 kb/s

Hope that helps .....

Cheers

deank

4th September 2010, 11:46

bc55

4th September 2010, 12:17

Try to set a lower value in Non-HD AC3 bitrate (subtitles&audio tab)... like 320... and process your file.. it will involve eac3to to convert it - just for a test...

If you wish you can use eac3to manually to demux the ac3 track and add it as external audio in [properties]. I had the same problem few days ago and it is because for some reason the ac3 track is not properly muxed (at least not in a way that tsmuxer would recognize it).

Dean

[12:56:25] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:6).
[12:56:25] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1280x720, fps=23.976, ref=3
[12:56:25] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3 (48000Hz 6ch 384kbps) Language: eng
[12:56:25] PAL speedup will be applied to all streams for PAL compatibility!
[12:56:25] Attempting to convert A_AC3 audio track #2...
[12:56:25] Encoding A_AC3 to AC3...
[12:56:39] User requested stop!
[12:56:39] User requested stop!
[12:56:39] User requested stop!
[12:56:39] User requested stop!
[12:56:39] User requested stop!
[12:56:39] User requested stop!
[12:56:39] Trying to encode audio with ffmpeg... !??!?! <--- What's this ?
[12:56:39] User requested stop!
[12:56:39] User requested stop!
[12:56:39] All attempts failed!
[12:56:39] Audio codec (A_AC3) is unsupported! Skipping track.
[12:56:39] Aborting...

I can't even demux the file, as TSMUXER won't recognize that there is even an audio file present. Well, he does SEE it, but he doesn't RECOGNIZE it.

BUT :

I set the non-HD AC3 bitrate to 320 as you suggested, and it worked :goodpost:. Weird.

Then I selected 448, and that worked, too ! So did 380. So what is better, higher ( 448 ) or slightly lower ( 380 ) !?

Seriously weird.

And now, iso "encoding A_AC3 to AC3" it says "encoding AC3 to AC3" .....

But, when the BluRay is finished, it comes up with garbled video. Could this be due to the odd bitrate on the audio ( 320 ) !?

Strange - is this a glitch / bug ?! Because my files were recorded direct from the HD stream via Arcsoft Total Media, and AC3 was looped through, without re-encoding .....

And here's more news : I set it back to 384, and it ADDED the audio WITHOUT re-encoding, but I got "bad frames detected warnings" and a runtime error. So re-encoding is a must, but the bitrate must be an issue, or I would see the image ( it's all green blocks now ) after authoring is done .....

deank

4th September 2010, 12:22

Audio processing shouldn't affect video... I can see 'PAL SPEEDUP'... why is this? Untick the option in SETTINGS if you want to keep your original framerate (23.976).

bc55

4th September 2010, 12:31

Audio processing shouldn't affect video... I can see 'PAL SPEEDUP'... why is this? Untick the option in SETTINGS if you want to keep your original framerate (23.976).

It's a PS3 thing, plus my beamer has 24P movie mode !!!!!

I added something to my post above .....

deank

4th September 2010, 12:35

bc55

4th September 2010, 13:25

Do not 'speedup' the video. Leave it at 23.976. Green artifacts can be caused by wrong encoding parameters in the H.264/AVC video stream (it depends on your recorder).

If using PS3 - 23.976fps should be just fine. Audio... if the value you enter is HIGHER or EQUAL to the detected audio bitrate - no conversion is performed. If you set a lower value then you'll see 'AC3 to AC3' conversion.

Dean

OK, it seems the PAL Speed-Up was not the issue. I still get green video upon unselecting that option. I'm currently running a test on Speed Video Transcode 1:1, see if that retains audio + video .....

worknstiff

4th September 2010, 13:36

O.K., here goes, maybe someone can tell me how this works. I have a disk with some "short films" on it. I copy out the 13 separate .m2ts files just fine with Clown_BD to convert the LPCM audio to 640k, and I can add them to multiAVCHD and build a menu that plays each with no problems. It will play the first title correctly but all the rest when played don't show any playtime status on the player or show the correct runtime. All of the files except the first one list the runtime as (13:15:21), which is funny because the biggest file is only (7:09) in length and the total playtime is only 52 minutes. I know the problem is caused by the ( H.264 does not contain fps field: muxing fps=23.976 ) message from the log. I tried transcoding the files in multiAVCHD thinking it would replace the fps info but this didn't work either. Is there someway to fix this in multiAVCHD or do I have to run these files thru some other program? Is this just because the files have some weird HD audio streams that when muxed it erases the fps info? I have not run across this problem before cause I usually just deal with one title movie compilations.

deank

4th September 2010, 13:40

Try to load one of the files with 'wrong' info and process it separately to see if player will report correct playtime.

Does multiAVCHD report proper duration in MEDIA tab or [properties]?

Capsbackup

4th September 2010, 13:54

@bc55;
there are errors in the audio file. Try to demux the audio with either DGMPGDEC or dgavcdec, then you will have to reencode it. You can use BeSweetv1.5b31 or another of your choice.

deank

4th September 2010, 13:55

bc55

4th September 2010, 14:45

@bc55;
there are errors in the audio file. Try to demux the audio with either DGMPGDEC or dgavcdec, then you will have to reencode it. You can use BeSweetv1.5b31 or another of your choice.

Yes, you are correct. But, I have now established, if I recode both audio and video, the file works fine.

Takes forever ;-), but it works.

Cheers

deank

4th September 2010, 14:50

Try to check your recorder (PVR) recording settings... there may be something about video/audio.

laserfan

4th September 2010, 15:22

About the 'classic' menu from version 3.0 which was removed...Here is a screenshot of the menu. If I implement it in version 4.1 as 'title-list' menu it would mean NO CHAPTER MENU and NO SETUP MENU pages.MrVideo is the member driving this, but my 2 cents: I can't tell from your screenshot:

1. Can the text be customized e.g. for a Season 4, Episode 6 I'd want:

406 - The Episode Title Whatever It Is

2. Can the text block be custom-positioned on the screen, can we change fonts/size/colors

3. I like a background audio track but would be OK without it

:)

deank

4th September 2010, 15:30

laserfan

4th September 2010, 16:11

@laserfan: Yes, of course all is customizable. Title names are set in [properties]. Font and colors are set in MENU tab. TOP/LEFT position for the 1st title-name is set in MENU tab, too. All that in version 4.1 when I add the option, not in ver <4.Sounds good--I will try it again upon release, thanks! :)

worknstiff

4th September 2010, 17:33

Try to load one of the files with 'wrong' info and process it separately to see if player will report correct playtime.

Does multiAVCHD report proper duration in MEDIA tab or [properties]?

I went back after updating multiAVCHD dat files this morning and deleted all the previous working folders and started fresh with m2ts files straight from the original rip. This is working and leaves the files with the proper run times after the rebuild.
thanks for the help, worknstiff

worknstiff

4th September 2010, 22:31

Hey, sort of a slow day and a holiday at that, Happy Labor Day! Sorry if this is not a multiAVCHD prob but I think I will post here and BD_Rebuilder also, like they say 2 (BIG) heads, lol

I don't know if this is a BD_Rebuilder or a multiAVCHD prob so forgive me if it turns out to misposted...:I have used both of these programs to preprocess BD's before and have never had any errors. --I took a movie with some "short films" in it. I used multiAVCHD to snatch each of the 13 small m2ts files from the original rip to create a simple strict AVCHD with menu. After I created this BD image it came to about 11gb's and I input this into BD_Rebuilder and created a (FULL) BD-9 copy with a "WORKING" menu. I said "WORKING" because 12 of the titles work when selected from the menu. If I try to select the final 13th title it crashes the player. This does not happen on the original multiAVCHD BD, just the BD_Rebuilder copy. If I let the disk play thru from the 12th title everything is fine and it finishes playing the 13th title and then the player crashes instead of going back to the menu like it's supposed too. When I was using BD_Rebuilder as it was on the last VID_80130, I get a Haali Media Splitter error box, that says ERROR can't open file VID_80130. After I click on it to close it, BD_Rebuilder finishes normally without any mention of this in the log file? Why if the menu works after multiAVCHD creates it does haali not like the menu structure when being processed with BD_Rebuilder?

____________________________________________________________
- [13:17:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [13:17:29] Reencoding: VID_00012 (13 of 14)
- [13:17:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,248 frames
- Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
- [13:17:29] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:23:59] Video Encode complete
- [13:23:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:24:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:24:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_80130]
- [13:24:38] Reencoding: VID_80130 (14 of 14)
- [13:24:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1 frames
- Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
- [13:24:38] Reencoding: VID_80130, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:31:01] Video Encode complete
- [14:31:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:31:01] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:31:01]PHASE ONE complete
[14:31:01]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:31:01] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[14:31:02] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[14:31:02]JOB: *****_SHORT_FILMS_MULTIAVCHD finished.
_____________________________________________________

I think it has to do with the way the files being created are numbered because there is no VID_80130 since the m2ts files multiAVCHD creates start at VID_00000 and stop at VID_00012 for the 13 files. Also the VID_80130 is only 1 frame so Haali can't open it. Any solutions will be appreciated, worknstiff

speedway76

5th September 2010, 06:00

Hi, Deank.
Yesterday I had a problem.
At attempt to open an edit window (Properties) of media of a file.
It doesn't open. Then I should do the following.
I open the manager of tasks, in the column Processes I complete process AVSinfo.exe (I'm close AVSinfo.exe).
And only then the window (Properties) opens...
What is it? That to me to do? Help, please!

deank

5th September 2010, 09:08

Hey, sort of a slow day and a holiday at that, Happy Labor Day! Sorry if this is not a multiAVCHD prob but I think I will post here and BD_Rebuilder also, like they say 2 (BIG) heads, lol

I think it has to do with the way the files being created are numbered because there is no VID_80130 since the m2ts files multiAVCHD creates start at VID_00000 and stop at VID_00012 for the 13 files. Also the VID_80130 is only 1 frame so Haali can't open it. Any solutions will be appreciated, worknstiff

No, it is not related to the way files are numbered. In multiAVCHD, title M2TS files are numbered from 00000.m2ts to 79999.m2ts and menu related files are numbered from 80000.m2ts to 93252.m2ts.

In your case you have 00000.m2ts to 00012.m2ts for your 13 titles and then 13 menu pages: 80010.m2ts to 80130.m2ts. For some reason BD Rebuilder tries to re-encode the menu page for title#13 and fails. It shouldn't try at all because even if it succeeds it will break the MENU navigation (IGS).

Hi, Deank.
Yesterday I had a problem.
At attempt to open an edit window (Properties) of media of a file.
It doesn't open. Then I should do the following.
I open the manager of tasks, in the column Processes I complete process AVSinfo.exe (I'm close AVSinfo.exe).
And only then the window (Properties) opens...
What is it? That to me to do? Help, please!

Either reinstall ffdshow and avisynth with recommended versions.

speedway76

5th September 2010, 09:23

Please link recommended version and please FAQ to setup FFdshow/
I'm a instal ffdshow and my multiTest (checking VC-1 decoding and (ERR) VC-1 failure)

deank

5th September 2010, 09:28

Here: http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/downloads/

If working with Win7 and VC-1 - follow the information about the tweaker.

deank

5th September 2010, 11:32

Yesterday I needed to transfer something I already created in AVCHD format (for my PS3) for playback in my PS2 (which supports AVI (DivX/XviD). So I decided AVI/MKV output (file per title) is a good option for the next build. The 'selection' window after you click [START] is a bit changed now.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_output.jpg

Dean

worknstiff

5th September 2010, 16:27

I just posted over at BD_RB concerning another prob, but I think I will just comment here on the latest build info concerning the file mode MKV, AVI output. Do any of the options support creating a file playable on either TMT3 or even WMP that supports subtitles. I seem to remember that I could not get subs to work on any of these formats before, even hardcoded forced subs didn't play. Is this still a limitation? I need some playable files for my netbook since it doesn't support playing Bluray from folder. thanks, worknstiff

deank

5th September 2010, 16:30

File-mode output creates .MKV or .AVI files, which most players play just fine. There is an option to 'hard-code' subtitles (which I'm using with demuxed Blu-ray PGS/SUP tracks). I still have some more work to do and you'll get the update.

Surely 'hard burned' subtitles will show in any PC player.

Capsbackup

5th September 2010, 16:32

I'm not sure what that means and what is 'original' authoring.

After "reading" my words from the post in the BD-RB thread, I realize it could be misinterpreted. :o
What I meant was much more eloquently stated by yourself :
In your case you have 00000.m2ts to 00012.m2ts for your 13 titles and then 13 menu pages: 80010.m2ts to 80130.m2ts.
This reference to "original" authoring was merely related to menu authoring, that multiAVCHD does it this way, where as retail Blu-ray's author menu .m2ts differently.( numerically )
I believe worknstiff had recognized this difference by stating:
I think it has to do with the way the files being created are numbered because there is no VID_80130 since the m2ts files multiAVCHD creates start at VID_00000 and stop at VID_00012 for the 13 files. Also the VID_80130 is only 1 frame so Haali can't open it. Any solutions will be appreciated, worknstiff
But since these files are present, BD-RB reencodes all files when AVCHD BD5/9 is selected for its output, since it does not know if the original file is AVCHD compatible.
Now the fact that BD-RB did not work properly on this file is a different issue. However, since jdobbs has stated that BD-RB is designed to backup original retail Blu-ray discs that have not been preprocessed, my reply was that this was not a BD-RB problem for this backup. :cool:
My apologies for not making the effort to be more clear as to my initial stated remarks. :(
I hope you are aware of my appreciation for multiAVCHD and yourself, and my belief it is a "Fantastic" program. :)

alluringreality

5th September 2010, 16:36

* Added: Option in [properties] / [alter detected properties] in RE-AUTHOR mode to replace playlist/title video track with external video from MKV/M*TS/TS or raw 264/VC1/M2V streams

Encore CS5 appears to encode one frame of video for the Mpeg2 static menus, because there is a 00:00:00.041 time shown in the BDedit "PlayItem" and the "Detected main-path" from multiAVCHD for a 23.976 video. I tried the above option (including entering 0.041s or 0.042s) and I'm not getting a playable menu. Looking at the multiAVCHD re-author in BDedit it appears the "PlayItem" is being set for the same in and out time (no duration), instead of the 00:00:00.041 duration.

Looking at the multiAVCHD log I don't understand the "Detected media file" or "Playlist duration" times I'm seeing for the static menus. BDedit shows the original files having a "present. st." of 0:10:00.000 and a "present. end" of 0:10:00.042 in the "SequenceInfo". What I don't understand from the multiAVCHD log, why does "Detected main-path" appear to be right and "Detected media file" or "Playlist duration" shows no time? I attached the menu files I'm working with.

[08:46:50] *** 5. HDMV-V1 3C
[08:46:50] *** Scanning playlist (00004.mpls). Please wait...
[08:46:50] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[08:46:50] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 00:00:00.041] [00:10:00.000]
[08:46:50] *** Detected media file: [00008.m2ts, 00:00:00.000] (0 MiB)
[08:46:51] *** Detected media file: [00009.m2ts, 00:00:00.000] (0 MiB)
[08:46:51] *** Detected sub-path #: [ID#000, IN: 00:10:00.000] [IGS]
[08:46:51] *** Playlist duration : 00:00:00 (0 MiB)

deank

5th September 2010, 17:04

It shows .000 for duration because it discards the milliseconds. In re-author mode it has no impact. I'm really not sure what you are trying to achieve.

Please send me your original structure and menus and I'll try to make it work. If something needs to be fixed in multiAVCHD - I will.

Dean

worknstiff

5th September 2010, 17:20

@ Capsbackup, I am kinda befuddled by this hickup because I have done this processing before and never had any probs. It seems this started after I went from the 3.0 multiAVCHD to the newest 4. version. I thought it was just a fluke unless someone else mentioned it, and didn't want to do all the un+reinstall procedure, that sometimes creates other mysterious problems, if I didn't have too. I am well aware that BD_RB was just for original BD discs but I have used it with no previous problems. I appreciate your time and effort to help point me in the right direction for a possible solution. I have seen a lot of posts in these forums and others and I think your info is consistantly accurate and always politely expressed. thanks again for the help Capsbackup, worknstiff

PS: @deank, look forward to tryout the avi+subs output. Sounds good.

deank

5th September 2010, 17:42

@worknstiff: What type of subtitles and INPUT files do you plan to use? MKV/AVI output may require complete video re-encoding, too.

Capsbackup

5th September 2010, 18:48

@ Capsbackup, I am kinda befuddled by this hickup because I have done this processing before and never had any probs. It seems this started after I went from the 3.0 multiAVCHD to the newest 4. version. I thought it was just a fluke unless someone else mentioned it, and didn't want to do all the un+reinstall procedure, that sometimes creates other mysterious problems, if I didn't have too. I am well aware that BD_RB was just for original BD discs but I have used it with no previous problems. I appreciate your time and effort to help point me in the right direction for a possible solution. I have seen a lot of posts in these forums and others and I think your info is consistantly accurate and always politely expressed. thanks again for the help Capsbackup, worknstiff

Your very welcome. Thank you for your kind words! :)

pio011

5th September 2010, 19:11

Deank, I am constantly having problems reencoding any HD-Audio to ac3. I have tested different blu-rays and eac3to always returns errors:

[10:40:30] Converting DTS-HRA, DTS-MA audio to Dolby AC3 (eac3to), bitrate used: 640...
[10:40:37] eac3to refused to convert audio!
[10:40:37] Trying to demux it...
[10:47:15] Trying to convert DTS-HRA, DTS-MA again with eac3to, bitrate used: 640...
[10:47:15] All attempts failed. Will use original audio track!

If I try to re-encode audio with dos-prompt (even when using eac3to from mAVCHD folder) everything is perfect.

Why?

When looking at the structure of the file with eac3to, the first track is the chapters, 2nd is video and the 3rd is the audio. If I do not choose the correct track, eac3to is giving me the same error as trying it with mAVCHD. Maybe mAVCHD is giving the wrong command to eac3to? When using dos-prompt, the command I use is e.g. in this case would be: eac3to filename.m2ts 3: audio.ac3.
Whereas using: eac3to filename.m2ts 2: audio.ac3 or eac3to filename.m2ts audio.ac3 is giving the error.

deank

5th September 2010, 19:14

Take a look at the log from eac3to in temp folder... Or post the log when you execute it manually.

pio011

5th September 2010, 20:00

Take a look at the log from eac3to in temp folder... Or post the log when you execute it manually.

Here's the log of eac3to when executed manually:

eac3to v3.21
command line: eac3to 00073.m2ts 4: german.ac3
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 7 audio tracks, 19 subtitle tracks, 1:56:39, 24p
1: VC-1, 1080p24 (16:9)
2: DTS Master Audio, English, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 768kbps, 48kHz)
3: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
4: DTS Master Audio, German, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz, dialnorm: -7dB
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -7dB)
5: DTS Master Audio, Spanish, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 768kbps, 48kHz)
6: DTS Master Audio, Italian, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 768kbps, 48kHz)
7: DTS Master Audio, Portuguese, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 768kbps, 48kHz)
8: DTS, English, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 768kbps, 48kHz
9: Subtitle (PGS), English
10: Subtitle (PGS), German
11: Subtitle (PGS), French
12: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
13: Subtitle (PGS), Italian
14: Subtitle (PGS), Portuguese
15: Subtitle (PGS), Portuguese
16: Subtitle (PGS), Dutch
17: Subtitle (PGS), Swedish
18: Subtitle (PGS), Norwegian
19: Subtitle (PGS), Finnish
20: Subtitle (PGS), Danish
21: Subtitle (PGS), Japanese
22: Subtitle (PGS), German
23: Subtitle (PGS), French
24: Subtitle (PGS), Italian
25: Subtitle (PGS), Portuguese
26: Subtitle (PGS), Portuguese
27: Subtitle (PGS), Dutch
[v01] The video framerate is correct, but rather unusual. <WARNING>
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder...
[a04] Removing DTS dialog normalization...
[a04] Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
[a04] Creating file "german.ac3"...
[a04] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits.
Video track 1 contains 167977 frames.
eac3to processing took 26 minutes, 57 seconds.
Done.

By the way: Why is eac3to saying, that the framerate of 24p is unusual?? It's the first time and only with this blu ray (yet) I have ever seen this!

worknstiff

5th September 2010, 22:34

@deank (QUOTE):What type of subtitles and INPUT files do you plan to use? MKV/AVI output may require complete video re-encoding, too.

I was just going to use the regular bd .m2ts streams and the english subs, like maybe the forced subs from *ahem* Avatar. Right now if I put these BD folders on my ASUS 1005PR netbook, I can't play the folders because of TMT3. I have to play the m2ts file and loose the chapters and subs. I thought if I created a .mkv or .avi without giving up 1080p image quality and kept the chapters and subs intact that it would be worth the encoding time to make them portable. I use this netbook that has a broadcom HD graphics card that plays decent HD on it's 720P 10" screen and with the DV out, I can play a few movies when I go to the beach or whatever. It would just make it like a real bluray player if I had subs plus it's pretty cool using my EVO 4G for a remote. It really sucks that Asus only kicked in for a TMT3 trial edition and Arcsoft does not have an upgrade that supports the crystal HD card. Should have done my homework before buying the thing, buyer beware! It has already cost Asus a couple of laptop sales since I bought it in June. I now tell everyone to buy Toshiba, lol thanks for all the help, worknstiff

deank

6th September 2010, 15:03

At the moment file modes are very restricted:

MKV modes: 1 video, 1 audio (AC3 always reencoded) and original chapters.

AVI mode: 1 video, 1 audio (AC3 always reencoded).

For all file modes the SPLIT option in AUTHOR tab is obeyed and final AVI/MKV files will be split in segments (for example when FAT32 4GB limit applies).

Subtitles are available only if hard-burned. You can convert a whole Blu-ray disc (main movie for example) to AVI (XviD) with hardburned subtitles, but you'll have to: 1) Find external .SRT/.SUP/.SSA subtitles or 2) Demux the original blu-ray subtitles and add them as external track to be hardburned.

Of course, at any later point user can add soft subtitles, audio tracks and chapters to the encoded MKV and AVI files.

I needed this, because my other application MKV2AVI doesn't have batch/jobs mode and doesn't support blu-ray input, playlists or m2ts files, but only MKV and I had to process about 20 files, so...

Dean

setarip_old

7th September 2010, 00:57

@deank

Thanks for preparing to add .MKV output

deank

7th September 2010, 12:34

Build 769:

Three new FILE output modes:

* MKV (with AVC/H.264 video)
* MKV (with XviD video)
* AVI (with XviD video)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_output.jpg

The selection window is redesigned so now you have the LEFT side with all Blu-ray/AVCHD modes (which usually don't require any video reencoding) and the RIGHT side for modes, which usually require video reencoding.

Both MKV modes support video (after transcoding), source internal audio (after reencoding to AC3) or first external audio track, original chapters and external text-based SRT, ASS, SSA, SUB subtitles (added as soft subtitles in output MKV).

AVI mode supports video (after transcoding), source internal audio (after reencoding to AC3) or first external audio track.

Hard-subtitles available for all three modes (SRT, SSA, ASS, SUP, DVD SUP/IDX and Blu-ray PGS/SUP). Proper resizing/scaling is applied to all graphic based subtitles.

For all three modes there are additional transcode resize/uncrop resolutions, so user can create standard (SD) video with anamorphic or normal PAR.

Similarly to Blu-ray/AVCHD, in FILE mode user can chose among all resolutions, including 720x480 (or 720x576) anamorphic, but in addition also: 624x352, 852x480 and 1024x576 (square pixel).

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_xvid.jpg

For DivX players which support only SD DivX, user can use resolutions 624x352, 720x480 and 720x576, but for players with HD DivX logo one can use 852x480, 1024x576 and of course higher resolutions as 1280x720, 1440x1080 and 1920x1080.

AVI (XviD) mode with various resolutions tested with direct USB playback in Panasonic Viera TX-50G20E, Playstation 3 and Playstation 2 (PS2 max resolution is 1024x576), plus PC players like MPC of course. :)

The quality of the picture (of Jensen Ackles as Dean Winchester in Supernatural series) with AVI (XviD) 1-pass insane encoding in 1024x576p looks good enough to me :):

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/snapshot_dean_2.jpg

These three modes allow easy conversion of Blu-ray disc titles (playlists) to one-file-backup or of AVCHD camcoder recordings (whole structures) or individual playlists for easy sharing with relatives, using regular PCs for DivX playback or for SD and HD DivX hardware players.

File modes do not support source MOV files.

The output files/segments from FILE modes are saved under [FILE] folder (inside the destination folder).

Dean

laserfan

7th September 2010, 16:39

Omigosh all I can say deank is WOW! :eek:

mAVCHD is deserving at least a donation, if not a golden statuette! ;)

Thank you for your contributions to the video hobbyist community! :cool:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_output.jpg

deank

7th September 2010, 16:47

Thanks :) :thanks: I look forward to the day you start using multiAVCHD :)

I think this autumn I may find some time to make it look a bit user friendly. :p (that's what I thought last summer)

Dean

rd001

7th September 2010, 19:11

Thanks :) :thanks: I look forward to the day you start using multiAVCHD :)

I think this autumn I may find some time to make it look a bit user friendly. :p (that's what I thought last summer)

Dean

Well, I haven't been using multiAVCHD for a while now because you guys have kind of left me in the dust with all these menu features and the minutiae of HD-DVD and all that. I have read at least 75% of this 330+ page monster thread but some of it kind of flew past me.

I grasp these advanced features are important for some folks who are O-C about certain technical issues, formats, utter customization. And no doubt it appeals to your inner coding freak, that sense of completeness and completion. It is a brilliant technical achievement for any single coder to create. Definitely one of the coolest toolchains I've seen in years.

I have to say I had thought you were running out of new tricks when you sprung this MKV/AVI thing on us all. So you surprised me yet again with your cunning coding. It is satisfying just to watch an excellent media compilation utility program grow this way. I think you are the king of the AVCHD format.

If you're done scaring us all to death with new features for now, I think I'll download a new copy of multiAVCHD and update my existing AVCHD movie files.

deank

7th September 2010, 19:25

That one was cool! :) Thanks...

Yep, download and go for it - no cool updates for the next week or two, but that 'classic' ver 3 menu. (no fingers crossed)

Dolsen

7th September 2010, 20:23

Hello, I have ordered a pair of glasses to view Anaglyph 3D and in the meantime I was going to prepare some demo clips to view.

I tried to convert a stereoscopic (side by side) clip into anaglyph 3D but it won't work.

From this page KnightsQuest 3D test clip (http://www.3dtv.at/Movies/KnightsQuest_en.aspx) I downloaded the "576p Side-by-Side Format (52 MB)" version.

I have tried adding the wmv and change properties to "left/right" and inside transcode activate anaglyph 3D and resize&uncrop to 1920x1080. But when I start the project, it fails.

[20:50:19] *** Transcoding failed!
[20:50:19] *** Check ffdshow/avisynth/haali (reinstall)!
[20:50:19] >>> Download links: http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17
[20:50:19] *** DEBUG: Try to play [G:\_TEMP_multiAVCHD\multiTEMP-20100907\20100907-205019-uncrop-running.avs]
in MPC or other player, which supports AviSynth scripts and report the error to the author!

I tried playing the *.avs file in Graphstudio, and it plays it with no errors and I can see that it plays it in anaglyphic 3D.

Could someone try and test that demo clip I downloaded? Or am I doing something wrong?

I also tried transcoded the wmv file into mkv/h.264 with ripbot264 and use that file instead in multiavchd, but the same errors shows up. And the *.avs from temp dir plays correct with Graphstudio.

Using the multiTest tool from multiAVCHD it confirms no problems with all four tests.

Thanks, bye
Dolsen

deank

7th September 2010, 20:48

GraphStudio (never used it) may use other chain of filters and play the avisynth script. You need directshow decoding capabilities. Since you pass multiTEST and since you can play the script it means you have avisynth, but you don't have a PIN connected for simple directshow decoding.

Either download and check the script with MPC (Media Player Classic) or re/install avisynth (2.58) with ffdshow. GraphStudio playback success means nothing in this case, so please check with MPC.

If you are using Win7, wmv decoding could cause a problem. I'll download the file and try it.

Before you go for any tests make sure that you get a PREVIEW in [transcode] window. Until you get one, transcode will never work.

Dean

deank

7th September 2010, 20:55

Dolsen

7th September 2010, 21:33

I have no troubles with the file. The one I downloaded is stereo BOTTOM/TOP (not left right).

If you have the proper config, you should see this in TRANSCODE window:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/wmw-3d.jpg

Or this if you don't have 'anaglyph' option ticked:
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/wmw-3d-na.jpg

Thanks for doing a test. I can see the video inside multiavchd exactly like you showed with your screengrabs.

I tried the same file you downloaded (I assume you meant top/bottom?).

Playing *.avs with MPC gave me this error: "Directshowsource: timeout waiting for graph to start."

This is the *.avs file:
filename="M:\Download HD video demo\Knights Quest 576p Wide.wmv"
b = directshowsource(filename,audio=false).crop(0,216,0,-216)

bordersizeX=int((1280-width(b))/2)
bordersizeY=int((720-height(b))/2)
AddBorders(b, bordersizeX, bordersizeY, bordersizeX, bordersizeY)

b=last

movieR=b.crop(0,int(height(b)/2),0,0).lanczosresize(width(b),720)
movieL=b.crop(0,0,0,(-1)*int(height(b)/2)).lanczosresize(width(b),720)
b=movieL

allR=movieR.ConvertToRGB32
rED=b.ConvertToYV12.tweak(bright=-8, sat=0, cont=0.8).blur(1.56).ConvertToRGB32
bLUE=showBlue(allR)
gREEN=showGreen(allR)
b=mergeRGB(rED, gREEN, bLUE).trim(0, 0)

b=b

return b.ConvertToYV12

Strange... Any quick idea where I can track down the problem, since multiavchd can display the frame from demo clip I'm sort of clueless now..

Bye,
Dolsen

deank

7th September 2010, 21:55

Bottom/top gives the depth better... At least I think so.

About the 'graph-won't-talk' message... I don't know... There is a filter in the chain stalling all.

Dolsen

7th September 2010, 22:19

Bottom/top gives the depth better... At least I think so.

About the 'graph-won't-talk' message... I don't know... There is a filter in the chain stalling all.

I just did a quick test and kept top/bottom in properies, but disabled anaglyph 3D in transcode window, resized&uncrop to 1280x720 as before.

This time it transcodes as it should when I start the project, but ofcourse no 3D, just splitscreen top/bottom output.

Could this give you a hint about whats going on?

I tried a couple of days ago using your tips to create a custom *.avs file if you have seperate left and right video files, and that worked perfect and gave me anaglyph 3D. I just checked the project, and it didn't use the "anaglyph 3D" option since it was already in anaglyph 3D from using the *.avs as input file. (added text)

Bye,
Dolsen

deank

8th September 2010, 08:39

I just did a quick test and kept top/bottom in properies, but disabled anaglyph 3D in transcode window, resized&uncrop to 1280x720 as before.

This time it transcodes as it should when I start the project, but ofcourse no 3D, just splitscreen top/bottom output.

Sorry, I didn't see there are two versions. I downloaded the side-by-side (left/right) file, too. It is 2x720 x 576p so I used 720x576 as output format and it worked just fine.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/wmw-3d-576p.jpg

[10:34:43] Initialising...
[10:34:43] Checking for new version...
[10:34:43] You have the latest build.
[10:34:43] [07/09/2010] build 769 (latest is: 769) - MKV/AVI output modes. Three new file modes added: MKV/AVC, MKV/XviD and AVI/XviD.
[10:34:43] Consistency check finished!
[10:34:43] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[10:34:43] 1 year and 256 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[10:34:43] 356 people supported it with donations
[10:34:43] and you are the 2396435 one to launch the program...
[10:34:43] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[10:34:43] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04010767]
[10:34:46] [TRANSCODE]: Title#01 4000 kbps, 1440x576 -> 1920x1080

[10:36:53] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[10:36:53] Destination [D:]: NTFS, 11836.52 MiB (11.559 GiB) free space
[10:36:53] Temp folder [D:]: NTFS, 11836.52 MiB (11.559 GiB) free space

[10:36:53] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.1 (build 769)
[10:36:53] Selected output mode: File mode - MKV/AVI/DivX/XviD compatible player

[10:36:53] Processing one title...
[10:36:54] Processing (D:\Downloads\Knights Quest 576p.wmv)...
[10:36:54] Pre-processing...
[10:36:54] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[10:36:54] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[10:36:54] *** Initiating video encoding:

[10:36:54] *** Original : 1440x576
[10:36:54] *** Crop : 0
[10:36:54] *** Resize : 720x576
[10:36:54] *** Uncrop to : 720x576
[10:36:54] *** Sharpen : 0
[10:36:54] *** Bitrate : 4000 kbps
[10:36:54] *** Frame rate: Original (25.000)
[10:36:54] *** Level : 3
[10:36:54] *** B-frames : 3
[10:36:54] *** Ref-frames: 4
[10:36:54] *** GOP size : 50 (keyframe min. each 4 frames)
[10:36:54] *** Quality : One pass (turbo)
[10:36:54] *** SAR : 16:11
[10:36:54] *** DAR : 1024x576
[10:36:54] *** 3D source : Stereo Left/Right
[10:36:54] *** 3D mode : Anaglyph 3D (red/cyan)
[10:36:54] *** Profile : File mode (MKV/AVC)

[10:36:54] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:01:44]
[10:36:54] *** Encoding : x264 options: ...
[10:37:44] *** Close to completion - closing preview...
[10:38:47] *** Speed : 23.01 fps (elapsed: 00:01:53 - Realtime x 0.92)

[10:38:47] *** Transcoding successful!

[10:38:48] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:5).
[10:38:48] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 720x576, fps=25.000, ref=3
[10:38:48] Display properties: 1024x576 (AR:1.78)
[10:38:48] Detected audio: ID#1:A_WMA (48000Hz 16bit 2ch 128kbps) Language: eng
[10:38:48] Attempting to convert A_WMA audio track #1...
[10:38:48] Extracting A_WMA audio (mplayer)...
[10:38:48] Parsing audio to avisynth...
[10:38:50] Track has 2 channels.
[10:38:50] Sampling: 48000
[10:38:50] Resolution: 16
[10:38:50] Encoding...
[10:38:52] Added audio: A_AC3, "d:\multiavchd\_temp\multitemp-20100908\knights quest 576p.wmv.t1-0.ac3", lang=eng
[10:38:52] Creating FILE (MKV/AVC)...
[10:38:54] Successfully created: D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_test1\[FILE]\Knights Quest 576p.mkv

[10:38:54] Compilation contains 1 FILE titles and no AVCHD/Blu-ray titles!

[10:38:54] Preparing menu pages...
[10:38:54] Setting main menu for 0 titles...
[10:38:54] Selected TV system: [PAL]
[10:38:57] Done!

Compilation summary:
Format: File mode - MKV/AVI/DivX/XviD compatible player
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
===============================================================================
Output size : 51 MiB (0.05 GiB)

[10:38:57] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_test1 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[10:38:57] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[10:38:58] You may now remove temp folder (D:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100908\).

[10:38:58] multiAVCHD finished in 125.066 seconds (00:02:05.066)!

[10:38:58] End of log.

[10:38:58] Cleaning up...
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deank

8th September 2010, 12:24

Couple of things which I'll publish a bit later:

In [properties]:

* External subtitles: new button [view]. It will allow the user to view/edit text based SRT/SSA/ASS/SUB subtitles and graphic based PGS/SUP/DVD-SUB/IDX before processing.

* Subtitles: (internal) new button [extract]. It will allow the user to EXTRACT text based SRT/ASS/SSA or graphic SUP/PGS/VOBSUB and auto-load them as EXTERNAL tracks (and then allow the user to view/edit) - very useful for transcoding with hard-burned subtitles, because only external tracks can be hard-burned.

Other things: When loading external PGS/SUP files along with video, multiAVCHD will display their resolution and framerate in the LOG.

If hard-burning external SUP/PGS, multiAVCHD will check subtitle resolution and properly place them inside the picture in case user is DOWNSCALING or UPSCALING the video. If PGS/SUP resolution is higher than both original video resolution (extremely rare) and output resolution, user will have to resize subtitles himself (using the [view] button in [external subtitles] tab). :)

A simple example of using these 'features' would be:

1) Converting a Blu-ray movie with subtitles to AVCHD for playback in Viera TV. User loads the disc, in properties [extract]s the subtitles and in transcode uses the hard-burn option
2) Converting AVCHD or Blu-ray to FILE (avi/mkv) or to DVD with downscaling from 1920x1080 to 720x480 (for example). User can extract subtitles and add as external. If doing transcoding without hardburning user can click [view] and resize the subtitles himself. If doing hardburning then multiAVCHD will resize the PGS/SUP automatically.
3) Converting a title, but keeping the 'forced' SUP/PGS subtitles only. User uses the [view] button to edit the file in BDsup2sub to keep the forced subtitle lines only then processes the title to any output format.

Using these options eliminates the need of manual subtitle demuxing with tsmuxer/eac3to/mkvextract or launching bdsup2sub/notepad for viewing/editing.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sub_extract.jpg

Dean

benjamin_sisco

8th September 2010, 15:16

Your program is great, I already donated, but there is a serious error!

Since build 760 or 761 your program does not recognize ac3 audio and always reencodes it.
In the log is written something like A_AC3 unknown format!!!!

How can that be?
Have others similar experiences?

I reinstalled build 758 and everything works fine, no reencoding of ac3.

deank

8th September 2010, 15:20

It recognizes it and reencodes it if the detected bitrate is HIGHER than the value set in SUBTITLES&AUDIO / Non-HD audio to AC3 bitrate.

In older versions the default value was 384 and it causes the problem for you. Just set it to 640 and multiAVCHD will never reencode the AC3 audio.

Dean

deank

8th September 2010, 17:11

Some size optimizations due:

* multiAVCHD.exe is now down to 1.3MB (about 30% smaller than before)
* multiAVCHD.rar (used for auto-updates) is now down to 200KB (40% of its previous size) :)

That will save some bandwidth! :p

Dean

setarip_old

9th September 2010, 01:36

@deank

RESOLVED - Changed resolution to 1920x1080

The following is a link to a purportedly legitimately free of restrictions Left/Right 3D 5 minute demo clip with video parameters of XviD .AVI 25fps (2x1280) 2560x720:

http://3dvision-blog.com/stereo-3d-video-of-a-concert-of-the-russian-rock-group-splin/

When I use multiAVCHD to convert it to anaglyph, the resultant file, when viewed with proper "glasses", includes an approximate 1/3 overlapping repeat of the image.

The original Left/Right clip displays perfectly when using the "Stereoscopic Player".

Any idea as to what I'm doing wrong (or is it possible that multiAVCHD has a problem with XviD .AVI as input?)

Thanks.

MrVideo

9th September 2010, 03:35

About the 'classic' menu from version 3.0 which was removed...

Here is a screenshot of the menu. If I implement it in version 4.1 as 'title-list' menu it would mean NO CHAPTER MENU and NO SETUP MENU pages.

Sorry for the delay in responding. I was gone over the weekend and I am just now catching up on forum postings.

Go for it. I could care less about chapter menus and setup menus. With my first run with the other menu system, I turned them off there as well.

Thanks.

MrVideo

9th September 2010, 03:40

@laserfan: Yes, of course all is customizable. Title names are set in [properties]. Font and colors are set in MENU tab. TOP/LEFT position for the 1st title-name is set in MENU tab, too. All that in version 4.1 when I add the option, not in ver <4.

Will there be a way, for all menu types, to turn off character outlines? Depending on the background, outlines can hinder the text instead of help.

deank

9th September 2010, 12:18

Yes, it is possible to use 0% opacity for the outline. I'll have to check.

***

Build 770:

As described in my post from yesterday, there are two new buttons in [properties].

In [subtitles] tab: [extract] - it allows demuxing of PGS/SUP, SRT/SSA/ASS/SUB and DVD VOBSUB/IDX subtitles from MKV, M2TS/MTS, TS files, from Blu-ray/AVCHD MPLS/MPL playlists and from DVD VIDEO_TS (IFO) titles.

After a successful demux, the subtitle track is added as EXTERNAL track in [External subtitles] tab.

The actual extracted files are saved under .\multiAVCHD\templates\temp\subdemux\YYMMDD-HHMMSS-****\. Folder is emptied on each multiAVCHD run (when it finishes and prints "Cleaning up..."), but not at startup.

In [external subtitles]: [view] button - it allows viewing and editing of subtitle tracks. For text based SRT/ASS/SSA/SUB with notepad and for graphic based PGS/SUP and DVD VOBSUB/IDX with BDsup2sub.

Also, the size of multiAVCHD.exe and multiAVCHD.rar (for updates) are now down 50%.

Dean

deank

9th September 2010, 12:31

@deank

RESOLVED - Changed resolution to 1920x1080

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_3d_concert.jpg

The resize should be 1280x720. No need for 1920x1080. :)

deank

9th September 2010, 14:41

Build 770:

As described in my post from yesterday, there are two new buttons in [properties].

In [subtitles] tab: [extract] - it allows demuxing of PGS/SUP, SRT/SSA/ASS/SUB and DVD VOBSUB/IDX subtitles from MKV, M2TS/MTS, TS files, from Blu-ray/AVCHD MPLS/MPL playlists and from DVD VIDEO_TS (IFO) titles.

Actually I just used the feature in Blu-ray disc RE-AUTHOR mode. I found that the original subtitles were TOO high on screen and I wanted them in the lower part where the 'black-bar' is (AR 2.4:1). So I [extract]ed the subtitles, clicked [view] which opened BDsup2sub, then moved all captions to the bottom. Then re-authored the structure and now subtitles are where I want them to be :rolleyes:

Dean

setarip_old

9th September 2010, 20:42

@deank The resize should be 1280x720.For some reason, that setting did not work before I posted the "Resolved" part. However, it does now .

Thanks ;>}

deank

9th September 2010, 21:24

I was playing for the last hour and created some avisynth menu scripts (inspired by what I saw few weeks ago), so here is what I got as a general idea for a nice motion menu.

Each stripe is a half minute motion / video from current title: :)

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sliced_5.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sliced_4.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sliced_2.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sliced_3.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sliced_1.jpg

:) Sadly encoding of 32 seconds takes WAY too much time...

setarip_old

9th September 2010, 21:36

@deank Each stripe is a motion videoIf all 6 are active at the same time, that must be awfully taxing on your system...

deank

9th September 2010, 21:58

Yep.. as I posted - it takes a lot of time... about 15-30mins to generate these 30 seconds of video, but still if one is in no hurry it will produce a nice menu background.

As it seems it is really nice when NO HUMANS are in the video, like Planet Earth series :)

Multiple motion videos were already used with MOTION CHAPTERS and there are 12 simultaneous videos playing. In this case only 6, but because of filters and rotation it takes a bit longer. Once encoded, the menu looks really nice :)

Dean

p.s. ...not to mention that it took some time and drawing to remember some math from the past, to calculate the rotation and proper video planes :)

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_sliced_draft.jpg

Capsbackup

9th September 2010, 22:06

Sharing with us your "scratch pad"! :p
Interesting idea with the menu, very creative. :)
I also have been trying creative ideas for menus, but I must admit not nearly that of your screen shots. ;)
Thanks for that.

Edit:
I have been using XMB style motion menus to get around the 32 second limit, and have been able to adjust placement of the buttons in such a way as to look similar to carousel and slide menu styles. This way I don't have to recreate the original Blu-ray menu, or at least shorten it to 32 seconds. :)

deank

9th September 2010, 22:10

I may add the 'static' version tomorrow... at least until I figure out how to speed up the motion one :)

I love it already.

Dean

Capsbackup

9th September 2010, 22:15

I love it already.
Dean

I'm just having fun with it all! :)
:thanks:

deank

9th September 2010, 22:16

I have been using XMB style motion menus to get around the 32 second limit, and have been able to adjust placement of the buttons in such a way as to look similar to carousel and slide menu styles. This way I don't have to recreate the original Blu-ray menu, or at least shorten it to 32 seconds. :)

Right... I have to do the 'no limit' thing for Slide and Carousel... I promised few weeks ago, but got distracted. I'll get there.

Capsbackup

9th September 2010, 22:25

Right... I have to do the 'no limit' thing for Slide and Carousel... I promised few weeks ago, but got distracted. I'll get there.

The XMB really does work as well once I figured out how to use the button placements.
Really, all is good now but I will try them out as well once you implement them. :)

Music Fan

10th September 2010, 09:12

What's the script you use to create this stripped video (containing several videos) for the menu ?

deank

10th September 2010, 11:02

Put the full path to your video in the first line and change the path to multiAVCHD's folder (if different than d:\multiAVCHD\)

filename="path_to_your_video_file"

LoadPlugin("d:\multiAVCHD\tools\Reform.dll")

step=777 #duration in frames (~32 seconds)
swidth=312 #stripe width
borw=4 #border between stripes

infile=directshowsource(filename).LanczosResize(1920,1080).killaudio.crop(384,0,swidth,0).addborders(borw,0,borw,0)
fc=int(framecount(infile)/8)

v1=infile.trim(fc*1,(fc*1)+step-2)
v2=infile.trim(fc*2,(fc*2)+step)
v3=infile.trim(fc*3,(fc*3)+step)
v4=infile.trim(fc*4,(fc*4)+step)
v5=infile.trim(fc*5,(fc*5)+step)
v6=infile.trim(fc*6,(fc*6)+step)

stripeH=stackhorizontal(v1,v2,v3,v4,v5,v6).lanczosresize(2684,1784)
bg=blankclip(width=2684, height=1784, fps=framerate(stripeH), length=framecount(stripeH)).converttoyv12.killaudio

rotated=skew(stripeH, bg, ltopx=382, ltopy=2, lbotx=2, lboty=1438, rtopx=2682, rtopy=352, rbotx=2302, rboty=1782, resize="point") #resize can be "line" or "cubic", too

return rotated.crop(352,352,-352,-352).lanczosresize(1920,1080)

It is possible that some ffdshow installations won't handle it properly (or avisynths directshow implementation) when you try to access the same video, but from different frame-offsets simultaneously. That's why in multiAVCHD each video is a separate video file...

Dean

Music Fan

10th September 2010, 12:54

Woaw, it doesn't look simple ! I don't understand anything in this script while I use avisynth for years.

deank

11th September 2010, 16:02

Piece of bad news... My Playstation3 (primary and only test/BD player) died an hour ago.

I disassembled it and will try to fix it, but until I do I may be off for a while :(

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/ps3_DSC00029_sm.JPG

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/ps3_DSC00030_sm.JPG

Dean

setarip_old

11th September 2010, 18:12

@deank

Is that a piece of kielbasa I see on the motherboard?

Seriously though, I hope your repair efforts prove successful. (Perhaps it's the programming gods trying to tell you to slow down a bit ;>})

Capsbackup

11th September 2010, 18:36

Piece of bad news... My Playstation3 (primary and only test/BD player) died an hour ago.
Dean

Well please report your results, and if you are unsuccessful, I will be glad to donate to the "get deank back up and running" fund! :)
My guess is you are happy with the PS3, and would not want a standalone Blu-ray player instead?

deank

11th September 2010, 19:49

I cleaned it thoroughly, cleaned the CPU and GPU, new thermal paste, cleaned the super-duper fan :), put it all back together (no loose skrews)... still no go... I think it is called the 'yellow-light-of-dead' (YLOD)... :mad:

I doubt I can do more but I'll try a bit more... who knows ;)

The worst case scenario is to go and buy another PS3 (1st GEN) 60Go PAL (same as mine) tomorrow.

setarip_old

11th September 2010, 20:16

@deank

Is there a particular reason that MultiAVCHD's converting a 1080i .M2TS movie only should be FAR slower (perhaps 5 times slower) than its converting of a 1080p .M2TS movie-only?

deank

11th September 2010, 20:37

It is deinterlacing it, probably that's the case (especially if it is bottom-field-first). If you wish, [alter-detected-properties] and mark it as 1080p and see what will happen.

deank

12th September 2010, 11:21

Well please report your results, and if you are unsuccessful...

I doubt I can do more but I'll try a bit more... who knows ;)

off-topic: I won't give up... Got myself a hot-gun as a final measure - now disassembling again, will heat the moBo for couple of mins and will put it back :)

Ghitulescu

12th September 2010, 11:40

deank

12th September 2010, 16:02

Total success :) After 10 mins of heating the CPU and RSX to ~400'C degrees I'm back in the game!

Full credit goes to this online guide by gilksy. (http://playstationlifestyle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2376) :)

Capsbackup

12th September 2010, 16:15

Total success :) After 10 mins of heating the CPU and RSX to ~400'C degrees I'm back in the game!

Excellent!:) I hope it is a long term fix, but if not my offer still stands. ;)

Emulgator

12th September 2010, 16:31

Resoldering a ball-grid array ?
I wish it had worked on my nice old Toshiba Satellite, GPU pulled some column pins off after 6 years.
New Motherboard.

X-}

deank

12th September 2010, 17:32

Resoldering a ball-grid array?

No. It seems the console overheated and some of the 600 pins from both ICs got out/displaced. So heating the board at specific places (both sides) + the ICs makes them fit back.

Of course it may work couple of hours for couple of years - who knows.

Still I'm happy because all that cost me just 5 euro for thermal paste and 35 for a hot-air gun (which shouldn't count) :) so 5 euro total - much better than 250 for a new PS3. :)

Dean

setarip_old

13th September 2010, 23:56

@deank

Hi!

Regarding Build #770, you state: Subtitles: (internal) new button [extract]. It will allow the user to EXTRACT text based SRT/ASS/SSA or graphic SUP/PGS/VOBSUB and auto-load them as EXTERNAL tracks (and then allow the user to view/edit) - very useful for transcoding with hard-burned subtitles, because only external tracks can be hard-burned.

Have you successfully hard-burned PGS/SUP subtitles with this version?

I ask because my attempts to do so with three different .M2TS files each got as far as successfully creating the external subs and then erroring-out as follows:
[15:32:53] Initialising...
[15:32:54] Checking for new version...
[15:32:54] You have the latest build.
[15:32:54] [09/09/2010] build 770 (latest is: 770) - Extract/View/Edit support for internal SUP/PGS/SRT/ASS/SUB/VOBSUB (DVD) subtitles in [properties]/[subtitles].
[15:32:54] Consistency check finished!
[15:32:54] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[15:32:54] 1 year and 261 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[15:32:54] 359 people supported it with donations
[15:32:54] and you are the 1432149 one to launch the program...
[15:32:54] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!

[15:32:54] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04010767]
[15:33:26] Extracting PGS subtitle track ID#4608 from title #1 (00000)
[15:33:26] Please wait...
[15:34:23] Demux completed!

[15:35:24] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[15:35:31] Destination [E:]: NTFS, 176543.11 MiB (172.405 GiB) free space
[15:35:31] Temp folder [E:]: NTFS, 176543.11 MiB (172.405 GiB) free space

[15:35:31] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.1 (build 770)
[15:35:31] Selected output mode: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)

[15:35:31] Processing one title...
[15:35:31] Existing E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[15:35:31] Output will be written to: E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\AVCHD-20100913-153531
[15:35:31] Processing (C:\VideoStuff\BD_WorkC\REIGNOFFIRE4BDRB\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts)...
[15:35:31] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[15:35:31] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[15:35:31] *** Initiating video encoding:

[15:35:31] *** Original : 1920x1080
[15:35:31] *** Crop : 0
[15:35:31] *** Resize : 1920x1080 (No change)
[15:35:31] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[15:35:31] *** Sharpen : 0
[15:35:31] *** Bitrate : 5078 kbps
[15:35:31] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[15:35:31] *** Level : 4
[15:35:31] *** B-frames : 3
[15:35:31] *** Ref-frames: 4
[15:35:31] *** GOP size : 48 (keyframe min. each 4 frames)
[15:35:31] *** Quality : One pass (turbo)
[15:35:31] *** SAR : 1:1
[15:35:31] *** DAR : 1920x1080
[15:35:31] *** Hard-subs : 1920x1080, 23.976 fps
[15:35:31] *** Hard-subs : E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\templates\temp\subdemux\20100913-153326-3664\PGS_4608.sup
[15:35:31] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[15:35:31] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [01:41:57]
[15:35:31] *** Encoding : x264 options: --preset veryfast -B 5078 -I 48 --level 4 -i 8 -b 3 -r 4 -m 2 --mvrange 511 -A p8x8,i8x8 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 20000 --qcomp 0.5 --threads auto --thread-input --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --b-pyramid strict --slices 0 --weightp 0 --rc-lookahead 48 -o "E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100913\00000.[1920x1080-23.976].264" "E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100913\20100913-153531-uncrop-running.avs"
[15:35:31] *** Speed : 672861.69 fps (elapsed: 00:00:00 - Realtime x 28063.97)

[15:35:31] *** Transcoding failed!
[15:35:31] *** Check ffdshow/avisynth/haali (reinstall)!
[15:35:31] >>> Download links: http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17
[15:35:31] *** DEBUG: Try to play [E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100913\20100913-153531-uncrop-running.avs] in MPC or other player, which supports AviSynth scripts and report the error to the author!

[15:35:31] Retrying to transcode with FFMS2!
[15:35:31] Stand-by for indexing...

[15:35:31] *** Initiating video encoding:

[15:35:31] *** Original : 1920x1080
[15:35:31] *** Crop : 0
[15:35:31] *** Resize : 1920x1080 (No change)
[15:35:31] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[15:35:31] *** Sharpen : 0
[15:35:31] *** Bitrate : 5078 kbps
[15:35:31] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[15:35:31] *** Level : 4
[15:35:31] *** B-frames : 3
[15:35:31] *** Ref-frames: 4
[15:35:31] *** GOP size : 48 (keyframe min. each 4 frames)
[15:35:31] *** Quality : One pass (turbo)
[15:35:31] *** SAR : 1:1
[15:35:31] *** DAR : 1920x1080
[15:35:31] *** Hard-subs : 1920x1080, 23.976 fps
[15:35:31] *** Hard-subs : E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\templates\temp\subdemux\20100913-153326-3664\PGS_4608.sup
[15:35:31] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[15:35:31] *** Stand-by for indexing (ffms2)...

[15:35:32] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [01:41:57]
[15:35:32] *** Encoding : x264 options: --preset veryfast -B 5078 -I 48 --level 4 -i 8 -b 3 -r 4 -m 2 --mvrange 511 -A p8x8,i8x8 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 20000 --qcomp 0.5 --threads auto --thread-input --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --b-pyramid strict --slices 0 --weightp 0 --rc-lookahead 48 -o "E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100913\00000.[1920x1080-23.976].264" "E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100913\20100913-153531-uncrop-running.avs"
[15:35:32] *** Speed : 857800.29 fps (elapsed: 00:00:00 - Realtime x 35777.46)

[15:35:32] *** Transcoding failed!
[15:35:32] *** Check ffdshow/avisynth/haali (reinstall)!
[15:35:32] >>> Download links: http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17
[15:35:32] *** DEBUG: Try to play [E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100913\20100913-153531-uncrop-running.avs] in MPC or other player, which supports AviSynth scripts and report the error to the author!

If I eliminate the attempt to create the hard-burned subs, the .M2TS files are properly processed.

(Do not be misled by the "multiAVCHD769" folder name. You can see that it's been updated to Build #770)

(I cannot/will not change versions of Haali, because it's used by other programs - and I don't want to risk them getting fouled up)

deank

14th September 2010, 14:56

Check the thread for SupTitle plugin in SUBTITLES subforum. I think it needs Visual C++ redistibutable to run properly (available for download from microsoft).

The file name is: vcredist_x86.exe ~2MB. Download link (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyID=32bc1bee-a3f9-4c13-9c99-220b62a191ee&displaylang=en) *MicroSoft*.

setarip_old

14th September 2010, 17:10

@deank

Is your post #6672 a response to me?

Check the thread for SupTitle plugin in SUBTITLES subforum. This refers to an AviSynth plugin. Is this already in the multiAVCHD full package?

If so, where does "vcredist_x86.exe" have to be placed? Does it have to first be executed?

(Obviously, I'm lost here)

deank

14th September 2010, 19:05

Yes :)

multiAVCHD uses suptitle avisynth plugin (dll). For it to do its job (hardcode PGS/SUP streams) user needs visual c++ redistributable installed. Download and execute the .exe and try again.

setarip_old

14th September 2010, 20:41

@deank

Hard to believe that I'm the only person who's run into this.

Is there no way for you to incorporate this as a self-installing part of the multiAVCHD full download package?

BTW - How is your PS3 holding up?

Video Dude

15th September 2010, 17:36

Quick question about multiAVCHD.

I have many TV series on DVD (multi disc box sets). Can I demux each dvd mpeg-2 episode (with re-encoding) and use multiAVCHD to author a Blu-ray with a simple episode selection menu? I would like to combine my 3 or 4 disc sets onto one single BD-R that could be played on a standalone Blu-ray player.

chompy

15th September 2010, 19:35

It seems to be a bug when loading mpls files: If audio (I supose it will be the same with subtitles) mPID don't follow PlayItem order, then some streams will be skipped. I've detected this problem with Toy Story where I have this audios:

PlayItem 001 -> mPID 1100
PlayItem 002 -> mPID 1102
PlayItem 003 -> mPID 1103
PlayItem 004 -> mPID 1104
PlayItem 005 -> mPID 1101
PlayItem 006 -> mPID 1105
PlayItem 007 -> mPID 1106

And MultiAVCHD only detects PlayItems 001, 006 and 007. If I directly load the m2ts file or if I use BDEdit to order mPIDs, then all audio streams are detected.

Greetings

Dolsen

15th September 2010, 21:56

Hi Deank,

One week ago we had a talk on my problem, re-read if you want to get into the case again from this link:
Start of the talk, ends with post number 6636 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1432716#post1432716)

After that I uninstalled Xvid, Divx, Avisynth, FFdshow and Halli. Rebooted and installed the versions from your download page and did exactly like you showed in the screenshots during installing. And rebooted again. Did not install Xvid and Divx.

Then I retried with the same Knight Quest 3D demo-clip mentioned in the previous talk. Now this is what I have found out so far:

1. If I used the WVM video, it fails and multiavchd ask me to testplay avs script in MPC.
1st Avs script based on directshow plays correct in MPC (before I did a re-install I used to get a timeout error).
2nd Avs script based on ffms2 give error: "Videotrack unseekable" in MPC.

2. I had made a M2TS version of the unmodified WMV video with RipBoot264, and used M2TS file in multiavchd instead of WMV. Multiavchd fails and ask me to testplay avs scripts in MPC.
Both Avs scripts (directshow & ffms2 based) plays correctly in MPC.

Both times (with WMV and M2TS) I have correct visual framepreview in Properties and Transcode window, just like you showed in earlier post.

I have tried collecting some text files and logs from temp-dirs and from multiavchd log-window and the test projects used in multiavchd, you can get it from here: misc.files.logs.zip (http://uploading.com/files/368m3aff/misc.files.logs.zip/)

Hope you have some clues what's going on. Since I can see correct preview in Properties and Transcode, and if using M2TS as input, the Avs scripts plays correct in MPC I'm now clueless. If I disable the Anaglyph 3D in Transcode all works, but ofcourse I get no 3D.

One last thing: I noticed a difference between your install suggestion and from setup-proper-playback-chain-windows (http://adubvideo.net/how-to/setup-proper-playback-chain-windows) you linked to on your download page. In your screenshot nothing about avisynth stuff during ffdshow install was ticked, while the other webpage had ticked 2 boxes. What is the correct methode?

Thanks, bye...
Dolsen

setarip_old

16th September 2010, 02:29

**EDIT** - Tell me we haven't inadvertently fouled up my system. I just noticed at the Microsoft site you provided a link to that neither Vista nor Win7 are listed in the "system requirements". I am running Vista Home 64...

@deank

Sorry to say, I seem to be chasing my tail here, regarding permanent subs from external PGS/SUP subs. I'm undoubtedly either overlooking or misinterpreting something here:

As you suggested, I downloaded (from the link you provided) and executed "vcredist_x86.exe" (from within a sub-folder on a secondary drive). I then rebooted.

I once again loaded a main movie .M2Ts into multiAVCHD Build 770, extracted the PGS file, selected "Transcode", set it to make first subtitles permanent, and set it for "Blu-ray" and selected "Start".

The program generated a log identical to the one I submitted in my Post #6671 in this thread.

I ran the .AVS file and received the following information: LoadPlugin:unable to load "E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\tools\SupTitle.dll"

(E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100915\20100915-174628-uncrop-running.avs, line 1)

I am mystified, because I have "SupTitle.dll" (83k) in the sub-folder noted in the error message: "E:\MultiAVCHD41_769\tools\".

Where am I going astray?

al4x

16th September 2010, 07:36

i think im going to go back to build 764, i am still getting failed runs because the ram is filling right up and crashing the pc, i now it worked a few times when i started using it, if not i guess its an issue with my system which i will never figure out, as no one else seems to gt this

worknstiff

16th September 2010, 15:20

@setarip_old: QUOTE < I once again loaded a main movie .M2Ts into multiAVCHD Build 770, extracted the PGS file, selected "Transcode", set it to make first subtitles permanent, and set it for "Blu-ray" and selected "Start".

Sorry If I am misunderstanding this but when I did a transcode with hard subs, I set the MKV: AVC as the output and it worked for me, but I only have Vista 32 if that makes any difference. BTW, I really don't remember having installed (visual c++ redistributable), but I guess it's possible I got it with some of the ArcSoft stuff on my plain vanilla Vista HTPC box. I was under the assumption that with Bluray output you would just select and set the subs you wanted to play as usual and that hardcoded subs were for MKV output only. Thanks Dean for the great addition to multiAVCHD, it works great but I really hate having to transcode just to get subs. I think the time we waste doing more processing means we lose some of the quality too. Probably wishful thinking but I would really like to see a more elegant and less time consuming alternative solution to playing a m2ts file in a "container" that incorporates the chapter and subtitle info intact from either the original bluray playlist or from BD_Rebuilder. At any rate I think hardcoded subs are a great feature when you have to have them.
thanks, worknstiff

deank

16th September 2010, 16:55

Hard-burning subtitles is an option to be used ONLY when a player doesn't support soft/PGS subtitles - like Panasonic Viera TVs and for HD-DVD output mode, where subtitles are not supported.

Dean

Music Fan

17th September 2010, 11:32

2. I had made a M2TS version of the unmodified WMV video with RipBoot264, and used M2TS file in multiavchd instead of WMV.
How can you put wmv in m2ts with RipBoot264 ?
I would like to do that. I never used RipBoot264 but I see only mkv or mp4 as export formats on this screen capture ;
http://www.videohelp.com/toolsimages/ripbot264_1039.jpg

Dolsen

17th September 2010, 19:53

How can you put wmv in m2ts with RipBoot264 ?
I would like to do that. I never used RipBoot264 but I see only mkv or mp4 as export formats on this screen capture ;
http://www.videohelp.com/toolsimages/ripbot264_1039.jpg

Oops, sorry my bad. I forgot some info, I used RipBoot264 to make MKV and remuxed that MKV to M2TS with tsmuxer.

Bye,
Dolsen

MrVideo

17th September 2010, 22:14

I have many TV series on DVD (multi disc box sets). Can I demux each dvd mpeg-2 episode (with re-encoding) and use multiAVCHD to author a Blu-ray with a simple episode selection menu? I would like to combine my 3 or 4 disc sets onto one single BD-R that could be played on a standalone Blu-ray player.

You shouldn't have to re-encode, as BD will use 480/576i @ MPEG-2.

What you can't do right now is create a simple menu with mAVCHD. Dean is working on getting that feature added. I'm also waiting for that feature.

Music Fan

18th September 2010, 08:11

Oops, sorry my bad. I forgot some info, I used RipBoot264 to make MKV and remuxed that MKV to M2TS with tsmuxer.

Bye,
Dolsen
Thanks. I tried this with GDSMux and TSMuxer, but TSMuxer can't open wmv3, even in a MKV container.
I guess you are talking about wvc1 in wmv container, not wmv3, right ?

Dolsen

18th September 2010, 12:35

Thanks. I tried this with GDSMux and TSMuxer, but TSMuxer can't open wmv3, even in a MKV container.
I guess you are talking about wvc1 in wmv container, not wmv3, right ?

Yes, the file I converted to M2TS was WMV/VC-1.

Bye,
Dolsen

setarip_old

18th September 2010, 20:07

Although text-based subtitles are properly added as "burned"/permanent subtitles, I'm sorry to say that I'm still not able to get external PGS sub files to be added as "burned"/permanent (Makes no difference if I use multiAVCHD to "extract" or if I add a valid PGS file directly as an external file).

Has anyone been successful at adding a PGS file as "burned"/permanent subtitles? If so, please be good enough to share your step-by-step procedures...

worknstiff

19th September 2010, 17:21

@setarip_old, QUOTE:Has anyone been successful at adding a PGS file as "burned"/permanent subtitles?

yes, Like I posted earlier, I think it is only using the MKV output. In title properties section highlight the PGS stream you want to keep and extract it. Don't know if you have to do this but I did just to make sure there was only one PGS subs for it to use, I removed all of the PGS streams, even the one I used for extraction. After extraction the PGS is already placed in the External Subs section and make sure it is selected for use. Now click on the Transcode Button and on the right hand side use the HARDCODE subs dropdown menu. Click start and use either the Matroska or AVI output and "voila!", 5 hrs later you have a mkv with subs burned in. (thanks to deank that is)

setarip_old

19th September 2010, 19:29

@worknstiff

Hi! Click start and use either the Matroska or AVI output and "voila!", 5 hrs later you have a mkv with subs burned in. (I've used the identical preliminary steps that you've used)

Although there's nothing stated by "deank" limiting the usage to these two containers, I will try them. (Actually, "deank" DOES refer to HD-DVD, which I've tried with this - unsuccessfully)

Thanks for your feedback...

al4x

19th September 2010, 21:54

unfortunatley im going to have to switch to another transcoder, my computer is still crashing on about 2 of 3 runs, due to using 100% of my ram in the moving procedure.

seems my problem is unique so im at a loss. will have to try something else.. shame because the program is great.

strad

20th September 2010, 10:29

al4x, make a backup of your system and a new install, then just install avisynth, Matroska, ffdshow and multiAVCHD. This will proof, that your problems have nothing to do with it.

al4x

20th September 2010, 20:30

thing is all the processing is fine, it is literally only when all the processed data is moved from its temp location to the correct destination.

GoldenUmi

20th September 2010, 21:04

Can I ask you good people for your opinions on an error I'm having? This is my first time attempting to subtitle a Blu-Ray, so excuse me if I'm a little slow to follow on some things.

After loading the external SUP file into the proper title, when processing I keep getting an error telling me there is no information on the main video stream and the main streams are skipped in the final result, while everything else that was left the same was transferred over properly.

Have any of you ever run into an error like this before?

MrVideo

20th September 2010, 22:04

After loading the external SUP file into the proper title, when processing I keep getting an error telling me there is no information on the main video stream and the main streams are skipped in the final result, while everything else that was left the same was transferred over properly.

Not enough info in the posting. You need to provide what you are using as sources and maybe a mediainfo output listing of the source containing the video.

Dimma

21st September 2010, 12:11

xterminater

21st September 2010, 15:29

Hi deank, I have a question to ask you. I am trying to use multiAVCHD to strip extras and ads on one of my blu-ray contents but I'm getting a "error'' message type. I'm trying to blank out 4 trailer or so, but when I tried to do so it said doing so will affect the playlist #14 for example in the picture. That first playlist or so contains all 4 of the trailers as you can see. How should I blank out those 4 trailers or so without affecting any of the structure and pointers so that my menu comes up correctly?

crl2007

21st September 2010, 17:40

As long as it's not affecting the movie or menu playlist then it's safe to blank.

xterminater

21st September 2010, 17:44

Well it did I think because when i put the BD5 after encoding with BD-RB when it comes to the actual menu part of the movie, all my player said is MENU and display a black screen and I can't press play or skip or anything to actually get into the file. Something went wrong with the pointers or something when I blanked that trailers and affecting the playlist but I don't know what playlist 14 is referring to.

crl2007

21st September 2010, 17:48

See what playlist 513 is referring to and you'll find your answer.

Dolsen

21st September 2010, 17:53

hi guys!

someone can help me pls!!

i really need help to make 3D avchd but, i don't know how to...
because i have ID 2 video content left and right for 2 files...

can comeone guide me?

thanks so much.

Hi,

I had 2 files, LEFT version and RIGHT version which I used in combination with the
Suggestion from Deank (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1429851#post1429851) (click link) and it sure did work for my video clip.

So, as long your files are one LEFT version and one RIGHT version you should manage to get it working.

Bye,
Dolsen

xterminater

21st September 2010, 17:55

the 513 mpls is linked to the next four trailers and also gave me that affected playlist #15 but I do not know what playlist #15 is pointed to... Before I encounter the same issue with vobblanker for dvd but this time in vobblanker I can go inside and just blank out the cells instead of the whole thing. Multiavchd does not seem to have this feature like vobblanker ... I wonder if deank knows what I'm talking about and implement it so that way we can go and delete the cells only.

xterminater

21st September 2010, 18:00

Here are more details into the 513 playlist reference... hopefuly this helps ... I just want to blank all those unecessary trailers out to save about 2gb or so

Capsbackup

22nd September 2010, 01:07

Here are more details into the 513 playlist reference... hopefuly this helps ... I just want to blank all those unecessary trailers out to save about 2gb or so

At some point, you will have to accept the fact that the issue you are having is not a multiAVCHD nor a BD-RB problem. Your player may say it plays AVCHD, Java, etc... but so do many players.
You have found movie only backups to BD5 media works, but full backups to DVD media behave differently when played back on standalone Blu-ray players. This is not new and many people report the same issues.
I have used multiAVCHD to blank warnings, adverts, etc.. for many BD5/9 and BD-25 full backups, and have received that warning you mention. As crl2007 has said, this will not affect the backups playback. I can confirm that too.

What you could try, and I have done several this way, is to use multiAVCHD in conjunction with BD-RB's completed reencoded backup, to create a new AVCHD, using the original menu from BD-RB's backup. You add the video files you want to multiAVCHD's "add video", go to the menu tab and add the .m2ts menu video file for your backup, adjust the button positions accordingly and let multiAVCHD create this new AVCHD.
It does take some time and practice getting used to button adjusting and alignment, but I have found the output compatibility to be excellent!
It may not be exactly like the original menu, but close enough for me! :)

xterminater

22nd September 2010, 05:41

that sounds too complicated as I don't have a clue about bluray structure and filename at all!

pio011

22nd September 2010, 06:30

Dimma

22nd September 2010, 13:24

Hi,

I had 2 files, LEFT version and RIGHT version which I used in combination with the
Suggestion from Deank (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1429851#post1429851) (click link) and it sure did work for my video clip.

So, as long your files are one LEFT version and one RIGHT version you should manage to get it working.

Bye,
Dolsen

I'm crying because i don't know how to apply patch..:(

Good tools?
http://www.biohemmet.com/3dbdnet221/3DBDBuster.png
http://www.biohemmet.com/3dbdnet221/3d.png
pls, check it!

MrVideo

23rd September 2010, 02:13

Deank, how do I keep mulitAVCHD from doing the "Slowdown"? I have one title that doesn't match the system: One title is PAL the rest is NTSC, therefore I have selected ntsc. I want to try, if it works. But the slow down doesnt make any sense, beacause the video remains pal.

Another reason to not have the NTSC/PAL selection. But, that said...

While standalone Blu-ray players will play 720p/1080i/p 23.976/25/29.97 frame/sec video, I suspect many will not play both 480i/576i video.

My Sony Blu-ray player will happily play 1080i/25 video, but it will not play 576i SD discs. It isn't a region coding issue either, as the disc is all region.

I've not tried putting 576i material onto a Bu-ray disc with mAVCHD to see if the player will accept it on Blu-ray format.

If it works, mAVCHD should stop with the NTSC/PAL thing. If the player still won't play 576i material, then the flag will force the issue for SD material. There definately should be no enforcement for HD material.

al4x

23rd September 2010, 19:59

al4x, make a backup of your system and a new install, then just install avisynth, Matroska, ffdshow and multiAVCHD. This will proof, that your problems have nothing to do with it.

it matters not, if its my system its my system, if its not i seem to be unique with the problem, either way i have to switch transcoder

SeeMoreDigital

23rd September 2010, 20:34

Quick note: next build 765 will include something else, too. A prompt will appear when user loads MKV files muxed with newer mkvmerge or mkv2rls (x264). As a matter of interest. Can anybody confirm which encoding applications generate "mkv2rls" muxes?

Music Fan

23rd September 2010, 20:42

@ MrVideo : I don't know the limitations of american players, but my european player can play 576i, 480i, 1080i50, 720p ... on the same disc without slow down or speed up. Each video stays in its native format and the player can play all videos in their native frequencies, but I don't remember what we have to chose between Pal, Ntsc or Pal 24 for the menu, sorry.:o

insaneoctane

24th September 2010, 05:05

I'm trying to create an MKV for the first time. As an input I'm using a previous multiAVCHD movie. It immediately errors with this:
(RT) Invalid array index (2). Valid range (1-1) - Line 104.

I tried unintalling and reinstalling to make sure that the new MKV options didn't need any additional stuff in TOOLS, but same error...any suggestions?

MrVideo

24th September 2010, 08:42

I don't know the limitations of american players, but my european player can play 576i, 480i, 1080i50, 720p ... on the same disc without slow down or speed up. Each video stays in its native format and the player can play all videos in their native frequencies, but I don't remember what we have to chose between Pal, Ntsc or Pal 24 for the menu, sorry.:o

Let's just say that Hollygreed has kept the U.S. DVD players limited to region 1 and 480. You can buy "chipped" players. The JVC that I bought did PAL to NTSC, but the DVD had better be region 1 or all region. The chipping eliminated the region problem. Unfortunately, the Blu-ray player has the same idiotic playback limitations. If it isn't 480, it won't play it.

I should have looked at your location. I know that in Europe, multiformat players are a dime-a-dozen.

I'm sure that Dean knows that as well, so why you are being forced to chose NTSC or PAL is, IMHO, wrong. To me it seems like you uncovered a bug.

Music Fan

24th September 2010, 09:38

I'm not sure to understand very well the sense of your last sentence, but all I can say is that MultiAVCHD allows to put all formats on the same compilation without reencoding and that my Panasonic BD35 could play it outputting the 50hz sources in 50hz and the 60hz in 60hz. I didn't test it with my new Sony player yet.
Anyway, even if it works on european players, I can not guarantee that it will work on US players.

JoeH

24th September 2010, 14:02

Hi Dean, just did a BD-->SD-DVD conversion with build 770. It worked well but just thought I'd mention some things that could be improved. Nothing urgent, just thought I'd put it all together here:

1. I selected to output only 1 of the 2 audio tracks, but both audio tracks in the M2TS file were output in the final DVD.
2. Audio and Subtitle languages are not kept. They are all seen as "Undetermined" in the new DVD
3. The program puts the DVD output 3 or 4 subfolders deep under the folder selected by the user. It would be nicer if it just put in the folder selected by the user.
4. This is the first time I've seen this, but towards the end of the process, either shortly before or during MuxMan, it gobbled up all 6GB of memory on my computer here. Not sure what it was doing, but the computer really slowed down. It then properly released the memory when it finished.

Thanks for a great program, Dean. Again, nothing urgent here just some possible suggestions for future improvements if you think they would be worthwhile. I've mentioned two of these before of course, but just thought I'd include them here as a summary.
:thanks:

sidneysides

25th September 2010, 12:13

Is the MultiAVCHD website down? I can't download any of the tools or the program - anyone got any mirror links?

Emulgator

25th September 2010, 19:26

videohelp.com -> multiAVCHD -> direct link

al4x

25th September 2010, 21:01

im am at such a loss at what is happening with this program.

i managed to do a sucess full transcode.. ie the computer did not crash despite the ram overflow during copying, but my output file is bigger than my input file, the program says that the trancoded bit rate was set at 24500 from 33118 but after checking the new output it is infact 34371??

there really is something wrong with this on my pc, another 9 hours lost.. keeping the menus really isnt worth this hassle :/ why me lol

MrVideo

26th September 2010, 09:33

I'm not sure to understand very well the sense of your last sentence.

What I was trying to say, because your player doesn't care what it is fed for video formats, even on the same disc, for mAVCHD to force you to have to select NTSC or PAL, is incorrect. IMHO, it should be done away with.

Music Fan

27th September 2010, 08:56

I guess it's Dean's choice. I believe that we have to chose Pal or Pal24, but not NTSC for the menu to avoid a reencoding when we put 50hz and 60hz videos on the same compilation.
And of course let unchecked the PAL speed up in the settings.
To see what happens with the menu and the videos, you could maybe try the 3 kinds of menu, and make a test with only 2 videos, 1 in 50hz and 1 in 60hz, it will be fast.

deank

27th September 2010, 09:59

That is correct. PAL and PAL 24p are both the same, but the second produces 24Hz menu and the 1st 50Hz. But in both cases you can have mixed content and it will not be sped up or slowed down, but used as is (unless explicitly set with the option Music Fan mentioned).

I'll see if I can change the option to something else like 'regions' or 'countries' or 50/60Hz.

Music Fan

27th September 2010, 10:50

I guess that you can choice to avoid a forced reeconding of the PAL videos even if NTSC is selected as menu to allow people to have a menu in 60hz even when some videos of their compilation are in 50 hz (and that they want to let it in 50hz).

wooper

27th September 2010, 17:56

Hi, i am making a blu ray with 3 diferent movies, all the movies has 2 audios, english and spanish, so when i make the project, I start it, and first i see this

[16:16:42] Encoding [AC3] audio to AC3...
[16:16:48] Retrying...

and after that this

[16:22:42] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (eng)...
[16:22:42] Encoding [AC3] audio to AC3...
[16:28:40] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (eng)...
[16:28:40] Encoding [AC3] audio to AC3...
[16:35:02] Adding AC3 encoded audio track (spa)...

it does this for the 3 movies, so when it finish, i tested on the pc and when i select spanish, doesnt change and it still playing english, so is there a problem with te codec or something?? cant play spanish audio

thanks

unix_sansei

28th September 2010, 03:47

from tsmuxer i have my file directory and am able to burn with no problems with imgburn.

all i want to do is add a basic root menu image with a play button and have some music going in a loop.

multiAVCHD doesn't like my video file and bombs when i try to do anything with it. the m2ts file is 8.4Gb and pushes the blu-ray specs at a total of 56MBs for audio and video.

i looked at this tutorial
http://www.recipester.org/Recipe:Create_Blu-ray_Menu_31358242

but i do NOT want to transcode or reencode my files, just add this content to the file structure. no subtitles, nothing fancy.

is this a tool that will do the job?

anyone have a basic file structure in place, where i can just replace the images and sound?

Ghitulescu

28th September 2010, 08:41

Wolfe999

28th September 2010, 12:18

Couldn't find the way of how to do it, so sorry if the answer is somewhere along the thread.

I'm using version 4.1 767 and my "problem" is that sometimes the subtitles appear way too low on the TV screen and is very uncomfortable to read them. Is there a way to up them so they can be read properly? Maybe "playing with offset in the subtitles tab, that by default comes with 45? Don't know.

Regards and TIA :)

EDIT: Mistake in # of version

A while later:

Yeah, removed the pgs and imported the same ones already demuxed. Then I upped the offset to 80 and in the preview I can see that the subs are higher in the screen and good to read, but once I start the conversion to burn to BD-R and when it finishes I play the resulting BluRay with PowerDVD, I see that the subtitles remain in the same place, way too down. What am I doing wrong? Should I change some other setting?

Thanx again :)

deank

29th September 2010, 14:59

The setting for OFFSET is when you use text based subtitles (like SRT). If you want to move original bdsup (SUP) subtitles, you'll have to load the SUP file in BDsup2sub and move all the captions (it is just 2 clicks job).

deank

29th September 2010, 15:00

deank

29th September 2010, 15:01

Wolfe999

29th September 2010, 15:29

insaneoctane

29th September 2010, 23:40

JK1974

30th September 2010, 13:15

Hi, I finally took a closer look at multiAVCHD because I just found out that it can create anaglyph or side-by-side videos from 3D blu-rays. My preferred format would be MKV(AVC), but maybe because I am new to multiAVCHD or because of bugs I don´t know how to do this. Maybe someone can give me some clarification because I don´t know where I go wrong:
1) After starting multiAVCHD, I click on "Add video files" and select the appropriate *.mpls file. The logfile mentions: "Detected 3D stream".
2) I set the Destination path, go to settings and select the desired 3D encoding format (e.g. Stereo (left/right)).
3) I click on "Start" and select "MKV (AVC)". Now I get the error message "No titles set for FILE (MKV/AVC) processing! Process all (1) as FILE (MKV/AVC)?". This is the first thing I don´t understand correctly. Secondly, if I press "Yes" I also get the mentioned message: "(RT) Invalid array index (2). Valid range (1-1) - Line 104." If I click on "No", it creates a BD/AVCHD structure.
Playing around with the transcode and properties buttons and settings, I believed that I got it working, but I never got an MKV file.

Any hints?

With kind regards

[EDIT]I just created an anaglyph movie as BD-/AVCHD disc. Unfortunately, there were two bugs: Some frames seem to have been decoded incorrectly, resulting in some kind of "flash" when those images are being display. But much worse: The two streams did not stay in sync - I can upload an image later where you can see clearly that it does not fit. Is it possible to replace ffms2 against DGDecNV somewhere in the settings? The AVC decoding still seems to be more stable and it is said to be frame accurate.

unix_sansei

30th September 2010, 19:15

You can't simply put any file without reencoding on a bluray/avchd disk. That file must fulfil some conditions, if multiavchd rejects it then it has a reason. Whether a certain player might play something out-of-specs or not is one thing, but if one wants to be future-proof, he should stick with the standards.

Have you checked the original guide to multiavchd? -> http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php

my encoding 40MBs video and 96/16-bit 6ch wav works fine on LG blu-ray burner and I took my blu-ray to Best Buy and watched it on two separate commercial blu-ray players, JVC and Panasonic with no problems whatsoever with audio or video. In fact, it looked and sounded spectacular.

I think there is a bug or something with multiAVCDH, IMHO.

My film is encoded with Mainconcept's mpeg2 and there is no way I'm going to re-encode with another codec. Mainconcept is the only one I've found that always seems to work on any consumer blu-ray player with no artifacts. I have no affiliation with Mainconcept.

unix_sansei

30th September 2010, 19:18

If you already have the structure from tsMuxeR - you can load it directly in multiAVCHD and create a menu for it. multiAVCHD will not touch your video nor will re-encode it.

Thank DeanK..

When I load my file structure, there are errors that arise from multiAVCHD. When I click on properties, it crashes. I'm not bashing multiAVCHD, I think it's a very good tool but I think there is a bug.

Is there already a template that exists for a single background image and loop an mp3 with a simple play button?

setarip_old

30th September 2010, 22:34

@unix_sansei

Hi! ...loop an mp3 with a simple play button As far as I know, .MP3 is not compliant with either Blu-ray or standard DVD.

Perhaps this is the source of your difficulty?

unix_sansei

1st October 2010, 02:17

@unix_sansei

Hi! As far as I know, .MP3 is not compliant with either Blu-ray or standard DVD.

Perhaps this is the source of your difficulty?

I said mp3 figuratively, I can create any audio format.

But I'm not even getting that far as multiAVCHD crashes on looking at the properties of the m2ts file in the blu-ray folder.

setarip_old

1st October 2010, 03:04

@unix-sensei multiAVCHD crashes on looking at the properties of the m2ts file in the blu-ray folder.

For further conversation, it might be beneficial to load your .M2TS file into tsMuxer (Open it to full window) and post a screencapture back here...

unix_sansei

1st October 2010, 04:45

@unix-sensei

For further conversation, it might be beneficial to load your .M2TS file into tsMuxer (Open it to full window) and post a screencapture back here...

Here is the error when multiAVCHD crashes, I traced it as far as I could in Visual Studio but couldn't make any sense of it. Maybe 32-bit overflow??

(RT) Stack overflow (PUSH) - line 89.

I'll post tsmuxer next

unix_sansei

1st October 2010, 05:03

@unix-sensei

For further conversation, it might be beneficial to load your .M2TS file into tsMuxer (Open it to full window) and post a screencapture back here...

here is tsmuser screen capture

Music Fan

1st October 2010, 09:50

It's not the answer to your question but I believe you should encode in 23.976 fps and not in 24 fps because 24fps is problematic with some players (and screens).

setarip_old

1st October 2010, 10:14

@unix-sansei multiAVCHD crashes on looking at the properties of the m2ts file in the blu-ray folder.You've got me confused. re you working with a Bluray "package", including .M2TS files or, as you tsMuxer screencapture indicates, are you working with separate video and audiostreams (which, if I recall correctly, multiAVCHD doesn't process very well)?

MrVideo

1st October 2010, 11:16

It's not the answer to your question but I believe you should encode in 23.976 fps and not in 24 fps because 24fps is problematic with some players (and screens).

Then said player, and/or monitor, is out-of-spec. True 24 fps is part of the Blu-ray spec and every HD monitor is supposed to handle it.

If the source material is from Region A, then it will not be 24 fps, as we are screwed because of the 29.97 frame rate (having to be able to use 480i SD material bumped up to 720p or 1080i). That means any 24 fps material is really 23.976 fps. Even true 24 fps films/movies are transferred to video at 23.976 fps so that the master can also be used for broadcast (HBO, etc).

MrVideo

1st October 2010, 11:20

@unix-sansei You've got me confused. re you working with a Bluray "package", including .M2TS files or, as you tsMuxer screencapture indicates, are you working with separate video and audiostreams (which, if I recall correctly, multiAVCHD doesn't process very well)?

Really? I've fed mAVCHD a separate H.264 elementary stream (x264 encoded) and its AC3 audio stream and mAVCHD worked with them just fine.

unix_sansei

1st October 2010, 16:24

@unix-sensei

For further conversation, it might be beneficial to load your .M2TS file into tsMuxer (Open it to full window) and post a screencapture back here...

here is tsmuxer screen dump of m2ts file, video 40MBs, audio 96kHz/16bit, 6ch wav

herrde

1st October 2010, 18:40

Hi everybody,

just a quick one. Whenever I try to process a MKV that originally came from iTunes (marked with "WEB-DL" in the file name), I experience difficulties.

multiAVCHD tells me it has to remux the file using mkvmerge which I confirm. Then it processes the file just as usual, no problems. But playback on the PS3 from my USB hard drive is completely jerky afterwards, it stutters like hell, completely unwatchable.

If I remux it with the latest version of MKVmerge BEFORE I feed it into multiAVCHD, then multiAVCHD's tsmuxer crashes while processing the file.

Is this behaviour maybe related to any DRM protection of those "WEB-DL" files from iTunes?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Best,

Gero

crl2007

1st October 2010, 21:18

Set the compression to none in mkvmerge from Extra Options tab. Or use an older version of mkvmerge, like version 3.x.

herrde

2nd October 2010, 11:01

Hi crl2007,

didn't really help. I set the compression to none on the Extra tab of mkvmerge. That indeed prevented multiAVCHD's tsmuxer from crashing, ok. But playback from my USB hard drive on the PS3 is still completely jerky with all the stuttering.

If I watch the output on my PC, it runs smooth as always.

I only experience this kind of problem with those "WEB DL" MKV's from iTunes. There must be something to them. As I said - maybe these problems are somehow DRM related?

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Gero

Music Fan

2nd October 2010, 12:31

Analyse it with Mediainfo and you will see the bitrate and the encoding level (maybe to high for PS3) ;
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mediainfo/
The number of reference frames can also be problematic.
Example with this capture ;
http://www.rarst.net/images/LookinginsidemediafileswithMediaInfo_132F6/mediainfo_interface.png

herrde

2nd October 2010, 14:07

But multiAVCHD doesn't show any warnings when loading the file!

And it can't be a bitrate problem - the file is 1.37 Gig and it runs about 40 mins, pretty much standard...

Here's the MediaInfo output:

Format : Matroska
File size : 1.37 GiB
Duration : 42mn 41s
Overall bit rate : 4 584 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-07-23 15:20:10
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.1.1 ('Bouncin' Back') built on Jul 3 2010 22:54:08
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=2, N=32
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@3.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 42mn 41s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Language : English
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 42mn 41s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 42mn 41s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 117 MiB (8%)
Language : English

Please help!

Thanks,

Gero

setarip_old

2nd October 2010, 18:59

@herrde

Hi! But playback from my USB hard drive on the PS3 is still completely jerky with all the stuttering.

If I watch the output on my PC, it runs smooth as always. Sounds very much like copy protection intended to limit viewing on only one system...

herrde

3rd October 2010, 11:38

Hi,

still haven't found out what the problem with those iTunes "WEB-DL" MKV's is... maybe the number of ref frames (2) in this case is too low for 720p on the PS3?

Anyway, I have now transcoded the file, and then it worked ok.

But if anyone comes across an explanation why multiAVCHD is not able to process these files without transcoding, I would be quite thankful!

Best,

Gero

Ghitulescu

4th October 2010, 09:00

I have a problem with subtitles in multiavchd (I'm still using an old version, maybe it's the time to upgrade, however I haven't found in the new version what I was looking for), namely:
I'm using 2 SRT subtitles with different code pages, the English ones are Ok, but the other one is coded as En, and all diacritics were replaced with their English pendants. The font/s used all had the diacritics (Arial, Lucida etc and their Unicode versions as well).
Since the author of this software comes from Bulgaria (AFAIK CP 1251 vs. 1252) I assume there's a way to do this, just that I haven't yet found it myself.
Could anyone straighten me to the right settings? Or a workaround?
Thanks

deank

4th October 2010, 13:33

Did you try to change the CODE PAGE option in SETTINGS?

Ghitulescu

4th October 2010, 14:12

I used an older version (a 3.x one don't recall which build, some 7xx) and I couldn't find a code page settings.

In case you're referring to this one -> http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_settings.jpg
I thought it refers to the general options, which is of no use should one have say Greek / Hungarian subtitles.

Wouldn't be possible (or maybe it is but I don't know for myself) for multiAVCHD to pick up the correct page code from the language code (ENG, HUN, ESP etc.)?

MrVideo

5th October 2010, 05:58

Just want to make sure that I haven't missed an announcement that says that the simple menu is now available.

deank

5th October 2010, 06:16

Sadly, you didn't miss anything, because the last update was from September 9th. I'm really busy the last month and can't spare much time for anything about multiAVCHD.

MrVideo

5th October 2010, 11:47

OK, thanks for the update.

steelmaggot

5th October 2010, 16:57

would just like to know dean if your PS3 is still working

Razrback16

5th October 2010, 17:02

Question regarding audio syncronization problems -- Here's the quick low-down on what I'm doing:

I have the Hauppage HD-PVR and I record my college football games on it to PC. It records in H.264 in .ts format. I use H264Cutter to cut commercials and then burn the recordings to AVCHD format using MULTIAVCHD. About half the time, the .m2ts stream files that are output from MULTIAVCHD for burning to disc has the audio out of sync with the video. At first I thought it was because of the H264Cutter, but then I went back and started testing the files as they were initially cut from H264Cutter and the audio is just fine every single time. I noticed by checking the .m2ts output from MULTIAVCHD that it is indeed the MULTIAVCHD output that is out of sync. I have left all the settings on default after installing MULTIAVCHD, so does anyone have any advice on what I might try to get these to burn in sync?

Thanks very much in advance. :)

cwh060

6th October 2010, 01:56

Razrback16,

I use BeyondTv to record from my HD-PVR, VideoRedo (the H264 version) & ComSkip (to automatically remove Commercials) and feed my .ts produced files into MultiAvchd without any sync issues. I've been using this set up for about 2years without problem.

Make sure the fps is same in Multi as your source.

cwh

deank

6th October 2010, 12:40

would just like to know dean if your PS3 is still working

Yep, it is still working. I bought another one (fat 80GB) just in case, so no problems here.

Razrback16

7th October 2010, 11:32

worknstiff

7th October 2010, 13:56

@cwh060: Quote:I have the Hauppage HD-PVR and I record my college football games on it to PC. It records in H.264 in .ts format. I use H264Cutter to cut commercials and then burn the recordings to AVCHD format using MULTIAVCHD.

I also use HD-PVR 1212 and I just use the TotalMedia Extreme program to cut the commercials out and then save each trimmed m2ts file and use multiAVCHD to compile them into a disk and create a simple menu for each episode. I don't have any audio sync problems, but I am copying HBO shows and only cutting the beginning and endings mostly. I think that if any cutter trims the frame headers improperly it changes the runtimes and causes audio sync problem, imo. You may want to try the TotalMedia Extreme program to cut the commercials and see if it does a better job. seeya worknstiff

cwh060

10th October 2010, 01:40

@worknstiff, thanks. I do not have sync problems with my set up. I prefer the Videoredo and Comskip combination, it's pretty much automatic. TME is just too much work. It's Razrback16 with the sync issues.

@Razrback16, you'll find the fps on Detected properties. Use Mediainfo to tell what the source is. Make sure you are using NTSC found in the author tab of Multi

strad

10th October 2010, 12:54

in this context: there is a free program "HDTVtoMPEG2", which makes cutting of TS-files very simple and fast. Therefore I like it better than other similar tools no matter how comfortable those might be.
Output can be chosen as Transport Stream, HiDTV or Mpeg. Unwanted parts can be marked with "cut" and "exclude", to avoid cutting into several clips press 2x (!) the "Clips" button (box gets blind).
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/HDTVtoMPEG2

Adub

18th October 2010, 03:43

Hey there Dean!

While writing my latest tutorial on combining multiple DVD's into one Blu-ray (here (http://adubvideo.net/how-to/converting-multiple-dvds-avchdbluray-multiavchd)), I encountered some issues.

1) There appears to be no subtitles in the output. Looking at the log I see the warnings, but I don't know why they are happening. I have Java installed and I can run BDsup2sub by hand.
2) All of the thumbnails are black in the resulting Blu-ray menu. Neither the title thumbnail nor the chapter thumbnails have any substance to them. They are all black.

Log:
http://www.sabayon.org/pastie/4937

BeNooL

19th October 2010, 09:18

1) There appears to be no subtitles in the output. Looking at the log I see the warnings, but I don't know why they are happening. I have Java installed and I can run BDsup2sub by hand.
Happens to me too with a quite a lot of DVDs.

Ghitulescu

19th October 2010, 09:34

While writing my latest tutorial on combining multiple DVD's into one Blu-ray (here (http://adubvideo.net/how-to/converting-multiple-dvds-avchdbluray-multiavchd)), ....

I must confess that I haven't yet used multiAVCHD to put DVDs onto BDRs (they're quite expensive in direct comparison to DVDR), but why do you transcode the MPEG-2 video? The specs allow 720x576/480i in MPEG-2 with any audio a DVD might have (except for MP2 which is very seldom anyway). Do you intend to put 50 movies on a BDR50?

Or multiAVCHD forcibly reencodes anything to H.264?

Adub

19th October 2010, 17:55

I've done the conversion in two ways, one which is shown in my guide.

The other was just loading up the two title sets for the DVD's and hitting the start button.

The first one I did a full workup with x264 transcode and everything, just to be complete. However, you do have a point in that unless you are piling over 5 movies or so onto a BD25, you don't need compression.

In the second way, it appears that multiAVCHD just kept the original streams as best it could.

I guess my question then would be, if we click on a title in the compilation menu, remove some audio tracks, maybe edit the Title name, and DONT click on the "Transcode" button, will multiAVCHD still keep the DVD MPEG2?

Is the only thing that activates the conversion to x264 the pressing of the "Transcode" button?

deank

19th October 2010, 20:19

The errors show problems with java or simply mencoder can't demux the subtitles in a recognizable way to be processed by bdsup2sub.

Adub

19th October 2010, 20:24

Okay, I'll try extracting the subtitles by hand when I get home, and see if I can get BDSup2Sub to work with 'em.

I will report back.

DiKey

20th October 2010, 22:53

I am very sorry of multiposting, but nobody helps me in THIS (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157506)thread. May be multiAVCHD can help me in my problem?

Adub

21st October 2010, 07:26

Okay, here is what I get when running the following command as generated by multiAVCHD during the subtitle extraction / conversion phase.

Command:
mencoder.exe dvd://1 -dvd-device "E:\Test\DVD 1" -vobsubout "dvddump000" -sid 0 -nosound -o "dvddump.tmp" -ovc frameno

Tail of output:
Pos:6542.5s 156881f (99%) 1641.24fps Trem: 0min 2mb A-V:0.000 [0:0]
1 duplicate frame(s)!
Pos:6542.6s 156885f (99%) 1641.26fps Trem: 0min 2mb A-V:0.000 [0:0]
1 duplicate frame(s)!
Pos:6542.8s 156889f (99%) 1641.29fps Trem: 0min 2mb A-V:0.000 [0:0]
1 duplicate frame(s)!
Writing index...91f (99%) 1641.29fps Trem: 0min 2mb A-V:0.000 [0:0]
Writing header...
ODML: Aspect information not (yet?) available or unspecified, not writing vprp h
eader.
Recommended video bitrate for 650MB CD: 826
Recommended video bitrate for 700MB CD: 890
Recommended video bitrate for 800MB CD: 1019
Recommended video bitrate for 2 x 650MB CD: 1660
Recommended video bitrate for 2 x 700MB CD: 1788
Recommended video bitrate for 2 x 800MB CD: 2044

Video stream: 0.767 kbit/s (95 B/s) size: 627564 bytes 6542.903 secs 1568
91 frames

When I load the resulting idx file ( one of the 3 files created. Ex. idx, sub, tmp) into BDSup2Sub, I get the following:
Loading C:\Users\Adub\Desktop\dvddump000.idx
# 1
WARNING: Invisible caption due to zero alpha (not fixed due to user setting).
# 2
WARNING: Invisible caption due to zero alpha (not fixed due to user setting).
# 3
WARNING: Invisible caption due to zero alpha (not fixed due to user setting).
# 4
# 5
# 6
# 7
# 8
# 9
# 10
# 11
# 12
# 13
# 14
# 15
WARNING: Control buffer size inconsistent.
WARNING: RLE buffer size inconsistent.
WARNING: Invalid end sequence offset -> no end time
WARNING: Invisible caption due to zero alpha (not fixed due to user setting).
# 16
ERROR: Invalid control buffer size

It appears the mencoder is not properly extracting the subtitles from the disk. Is there a reason why we are using mencoder, vs something like vobsub?

DMagic1

22nd October 2010, 16:52

Hi deank, I've been away for awhile. Nice updates btw.

I'm having some trouble with the customer x264 inputs. Does it require just the part you want to change/add or a complete script?
I tried with a complete script and it gave an error on transcode at the end of the second pass.
Can you give and example of what it should look like?

Also I see where you can use an Avisynth customer script for the menu but can I use a customer script for the main movie aswell?

DMagic1

22nd October 2010, 23:34

These are two that I tried

--keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 40000 --qcomp 0.5 --mvrange 511 --nal-hrd --sar 1:1

--deblock -1:-1 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --ref 3 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 40000 --qcomp 0.5 --no-mbtree --merange 12 --direct auto --subme 3 --trellis 0 --mvrange 511 --nal-hrd --sar 1:1

The AVS was playable.

deank

24th October 2010, 01:50

Okay, here is what I get when running the following command as generated by multiAVCHD during the subtitle extraction / conversion phase.
It appears the mencoder is not properly extracting the subtitles from the disk. Is there a reason why we are using mencoder, vs something like vobsub?

Does it support command-line?

deank

24th October 2010, 01:52

DMagic1

24th October 2010, 01:58

Yea, I had taken that part off later and still same issue.

Adub

25th October 2010, 07:09

Does it support command-line?

Not sure, I haven't had time to test it. I believe that MeGUI uses a version of it, and I think HDConvertToX uses something similar as well.

I'm pretty sure Vobsub Ripper support command line. I'm on my MacBook Pro, so I can't confirm right now.

Edit: Aha! HDconvertToX uses VSrip (AKA VobSub Ripper). FreeCodecs has it here: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/VobSub_Ripper.htm

Music Fan

25th October 2010, 10:24

I discovered something interesting with the Sony BDP-S370 (and probably concerning other Sony models) : it can play AVCHD on USB key !
With MultiAVCHD, we have to choose Sony PS3 in the solid media part.
The folder has to be named AVCHD and placed at the root of the USB key.
@ Deank : you could maybe add "and some Sony players" beside "PS3" in this part ?

BeNooL

25th October 2010, 11:30

BeNooL

25th October 2010, 11:44

I tried several times to use AVDHD to produce SD DVD5 but i always end up with an oversized VIDEO_TS folder...
Something like 4500 or 4550 Mb.

Am I missing something?

DMagic1

25th October 2010, 17:16

I tried several times to use AVDHD to produce SD DVD5 but i always end up with an oversized VIDEO_TS folder...
Something like 4500 or 4550 Mb.

Am I missing something?

I've have output size problems too for DVD9, always have. I just use a manual size output that came up with based on the overage I was getting. Problem was then solved.

pio011

31st October 2010, 09:38

Former post deleted
Sorry, I was just too upset and sad, that mAVCHD ist not "puplic" anymore......

Adub

31st October 2010, 09:54

Um, excuse you? This is just blatantly rude and tasteless.

You post has been reported to the admins.

deank

31st October 2010, 16:15

It is hard to find time and resources to update multiAVCHD at the moment. I posted the note because the project can't run without support (server up time, internet and bandwidth, forum, hosting, etc). Not only I spent hundreds of days and nights improving the program, but now I need to put money in it - I don't think so :)

I don't think I'm under an obligation to push updates and work constantly on bringing new features to you.

multiAVCHD is a great tool as it is and works just fine for me in its current form. It is free and will always be, so I don't see the problem.

Dean

deank

31st October 2010, 16:17

Music Fan

31st October 2010, 18:03

Thanks. Actually, as said above, it also works on the Oppo 83. So, it works maybe also on other players.

Capsbackup

31st October 2010, 18:21

multiAVCHD is a great tool as it is and works just fine for me in its current form.
Dean

I agree completely! :)
I use multiAVCHD quite often, and have been for some time. It allows me to do things that no other free program does. :cool:
There may be a few bugs still, and improvements and added features are always welcome! But time and economics are a reality. So I understand and appreciate your situation.
I will continue to follow and support you as I hope others will do too! Thanks deank for your generosity.
:thanks:

alluringreality

1st November 2010, 00:39

On the "Select destination media and playback device type" screen it reads "Strict mode employs in-mux menu (static only). Suitable for Panasonic players and DVD media." for the AVCHD area. Apparently the 2nd quote does not apply in re-author mode. At least this is my current best guess at what might be going on with the report we received that a Panasonic DMP-BD85K was unable to play the AVCHD re-author in http://bit.ly/avshd709. Far as I can tell the original uses out-of-mux menus, so the re-author probably also uses out of mux menus. Is this a reasonable explination for why the re-author might not work on a Panasonic player?

Edit: After another report it seems like the out-of-mux menus could be why the Panasonic model is not playing the re-author.

IanD

2nd November 2010, 06:12

I recently authored a Bluray with 1080p24 and 720x480 (4:3) material, however on playback the 4:3 material is stretched to 16:9.

Have I missed a setting in multiAVCHD to tell the player to treat the 720x480 as 4:3, or is this just the way it is?

I'm sure with a few official Bluray titles with 1080p24 and 720x480 (4:3) material that I have played in the past, the aspect ratio has been correct on playback, so there must be a setting somewhere. I assumed multiAVCHD handled it automatically.

I'm also having issues with choosing a poster image from the material for the top menu: it always comes up blue in the preview and black when rendered. If I specifically direct the program to a jpg poster image, all is well.

Music Fan

2nd November 2010, 12:40

on playback the 4:3 material is stretched to 16:9
Are you sure that you didn't check "Force AR flag to 16:9" in the author tab ?
If no, it should work if you put your video in a MKV container with 4/3 Aspect Ratio (I do it with MKVmerge) before adding it in MultiAVCHD.
And you can also verify your player's setup.

Adub

3rd November 2010, 00:43

I'm also having issues with choosing a poster image from the material for the top menu: it always comes up blue in the preview and black when rendered. If I specifically direct the program to a jpg poster image, all is well.

Actually, I'm getting this same issue. As I reported in my previous post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1451176#post1451176), I am getting black thumbnails for my DVD->Blu-ray renders.

IanD

3rd November 2010, 01:13

Actually, I'm getting this same issue. As I reported in my previous post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1451176#post1451176), I am getting black thumbnails for my DVD->Blu-ray renders.
OMG, I just discovered that I also have the same black thumbnail problem too as well as the poster image problem with DVD resolution sourced material.

I have been creating Bluray structures of DVD resolution material with ClownBD (since that retains chapters) and then importing those structures into multiAVCHD. It is those DVD resolution structures that give the black poster and thumbnail problem: 1080p structures are perfectly fine.

As a previous poster has suggested, perhaps I should have been creating mkv first instead.

MrVideo

3rd November 2010, 01:18

I posted the note ...

Huh? What note?

Capsbackup

3rd November 2010, 02:07

Huh? What note?

Run multiAVCHD and you will see it in the log file just after startup of the program. :(
[15:10:53] Destination path does not exist!
[15:10:53] Changed to: C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\
[15:10:54] Initialising...
[15:10:54] Checking for new version...
[15:10:55] You have the latest build.
[15:10:55] The lack of support for multiAVCHD development results in major delay of all the updates and improvements.
[15:10:55] Consistency check finished!
[15:10:55] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

bloodta

3rd November 2010, 05:05

I have been testing a clip that has TrueHD on my Panasonic BD30. I've got the clip to work flawlessly from an SD card with the TrueHD converted to LPCM, but, when I burn, with Imgburn, to a DVD+R or DVD-R, it plays back very choppy. I've tried converting the TrueHD track to plain AC3, still plays back choppy on the BD30. I understand media plays a huge roll in this. Currently I have a crapload of JVC DVD-Rs and Playo DVD+Rs. I would like confirmation, before I shell out the cash, that if I switch to the Verbatims, that all these problems would go away.

MrVideo

3rd November 2010, 08:07

Run multiAVCHD and you will see it in the log file just after startup of the program. :(

Oh. I haven't done any mAVCHD work lately, as I've been waiting for the generic menu to appear. So, I didn't see that.

Guess I'm going to be waiting a while for that to appear :(

MrVideo

3rd November 2010, 08:11

I understand media plays a huge roll in this.

I very seriously doubt that media has anything to do with it. Who told you that?

I'm suspecting bitrate. What is the bitrate of the video file? It may be too high for DVD use. There is a limit.

Music Fan

3rd November 2010, 11:08

The Panasonic players can't send True HD and DTS HD from AVCHD burnt on dvd, my BD35 had the same problem and there's nothing to do.
I've tried converting the TrueHD track to plain AC3, still plays back choppy on the BD30.
That's weird, it should work. Did you keep the core with MultiaVCHD ? It didn't work when I tried that, so you have to keep the core with TSMuxer before importing the video in MultiAVCHD.
I know that it's not logical because MultiAVCHD uses TSMuxer.

Ghitulescu

3rd November 2010, 11:14

The Panasonic players can't send True HD and DTS HD from AVCHD burnt on dvd, my BD35 had the same problem and there's nothing to do.

The players that support TrueHD and DTS HD with AVCHD disks are generally relaxed in specs, as AVCHD doesn't allow these audio codecs, AFAIK.

Music Fan

3rd November 2010, 11:59

Yes, but the situation is actually very weird because normally AVCHD doesn't allow Dts (I mean the simple Dts, like on dvd) but the AVCHD strict mode of MultiAVCHD allows it and the Panasonic players play it while it's not AVCHD compliant !
And I believe that we can also put multiple audio tracks and subtitles and Panasonic play it in AVCHD strict mode.
So, even the Panasonic play AVCHD disks relaxed in specs but not as much as other players (no DTS HD, no pop-up menu, no out-of-mux menus, ...).

bloodta

3rd November 2010, 21:13

The Panasonic players can't send True HD and DTS HD from AVCHD burnt on dvd, my BD35 had the same problem and there's nothing to do.

That's weird, it should work. Did you keep the core with MultiaVCHD ? It didn't work when I tried that, so you have to keep the core with TSMuxer before importing the video in MultiAVCHD.
I know that it's not logical because MultiAVCHD uses TSMuxer.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Keeping the core with TSmuxer". Should I run the clip through TSMuxer first?

IanD

4th November 2010, 02:27

Are you sure that you didn't check "Force AR flag to 16:9" in the author tab ?
If no, it should work if you put your video in a MKV container with 4/3 Aspect Ratio (I do it with MKVmerge) before adding it in MultiAVCHD.
And you can also verify your player's setup.
I have confirmed "Force AR flag to 16:9" is not checked in the author tab.

Player setup is fine, because it plays genuine Bluray discs with 4:3 720x480 material with the correct on-screen aspect ratio.

I'll try redoing the project with all non-1080p material in mkv form and see if that makes a difference.

Is there a way to get ClownBD to create an mkv instead of m2ts? ClownBD works very well for my purposes otherwise.

Music Fan

4th November 2010, 09:57

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Keeping the core with TSmuxer". Should I run the clip through TSMuxer first?
Yes. In TSMuxer you click on the sound line (normally 2nd line in the "tracks" area) ; the option "Downconvert True-HD to ac3" will appear below and you check it.

bloodta

6th November 2010, 21:47

Yes. In TSMuxer you click on the sound line (normally 2nd line in the "tracks" area) ; the option "Downconvert True-HD to ac3" will appear below and you check it.

I've tried that, still plays back very choppy. As far as where I heard about the type of media to use, I heard that on this forum. Also, what should I limit the bitrate to?

MrVideo

7th November 2010, 00:21

Also, what should I limit the bitrate to?

No more than 14 Mbps for H.264 HD material.

bloodta

7th November 2010, 01:48

No more than 14 Mbps for H.264 HD material.

That was it, set the bitrate to 17 Mbps and it worked fine. Thanks guys.

IanD

7th November 2010, 03:49

If no, it should work if you put your video in a MKV container with 4/3 Aspect Ratio (I do it with MKVmerge) before adding it in MultiAVCHD.
The mkv approach fixed the aspect ratio problem.

However, all 4:3 material renders chapter thumbnails as black only: 1080i/p material renders chapter thumbnails correctly. Is this a bug with multiAVCHD, or have I got a parameter set incorrectly?

DMagic1

7th November 2010, 16:49

Maybe I missed something guys but I have a question. I have a source with a truehd track and a 5.1 640 ac3 track
MultiAVCHD keeps the truehd untouched but always encodes the other 5.1 640 ac3 track.
Is there something I'm missing? I just want it to keep both tracks and not encode either.

edit:

Hmm, think I found the setting. Seems non HD audio was set to 384. oops

Video Dude

7th November 2010, 17:26

However, all 4:3 material renders chapter thumbnails as black only: 1080i/p material renders chapter thumbnails correctly. Is this a bug with multiAVCHD, or have I got a parameter set incorrectly?

I author 4:3 VOB files and do get chapter thumbnails.

A guess would be a black thumbnail could indicate a codec problem if the video file could not be decoded.

Adub

7th November 2010, 21:15

Yet how could the rest of the conversion complete successfully if there is a problem with the codec? The whole movie would be scrambled or black or otherwise incorrect.

Video Dude

7th November 2010, 23:39

Yet how could the rest of the conversion complete successfully if there is a problem with the codec? The whole movie would be scrambled or black or otherwise incorrect.
Only if the video needs to be reencoded.

If I author compliant VOBs, no reencode is done and they are muxed as is into a Blu-ray structure. The VOBs would then only need to be decoded for preview or to generate the thumbnails.

Adub

7th November 2010, 23:52

Yes, I agree.

However, I get black thumbnails when creating Blu-rays out of DVD's, in which the video is re-encoded to H.264 (for testing purposes) and I get black thumbnails yet a perfect movie.

BeNooL

8th November 2010, 08:35

No more than 14 Mbps for H.264 HD material.

That limitation is specific to Panasonic players? Peak or average bitrate?

Because on the Oppo I can do 14Mbits average with peaks well over 30Mbits during fast paced scenes.

BeNooL

8th November 2010, 08:38

Also I had a question on X264 custom settings.
Setting some options in the Settings tab ends up in fact adding these the to already generate command line. Is there a way to use only the custom settings entered (except for the input/output file, the I frame chapters pointers)?

I'm wondering why the -no-mbtree option is set for instance.

Butterfly666

8th November 2010, 16:27

I have a problem with MultiAVCHD. When I play a AVCHD file with ac3 5.1 , the ac3 5.1 doesnt seems to output as surround sound (I can see this on my Dolby Digital Decoder). The info in the ps3 tells me that the audio is reconized as 5.1 ac3 but the bitrate freezes at 640. I think that this causes the problem. But when I play the same file as mts, the output is surround. The bitrate of the audio is going up-down , no feezing.

Anybody noticed this? Is it a bug in MultiAVCHD?

MrVideo

9th November 2010, 03:20

That limitation is specific to Panasonic players? Peak or average bitrate?

Don't know. The number is from the AVCHD specs that I found on line as to what DVD playback can handle, i.e., how fast the data can be read off the DVD drive before it starts to fold.

It is the value that I've set for x264 encoding if I'm going to make an AVCHD compatible disc. If I'm going to make a Blu-ray disc, then I open it up.

IanD

13th November 2010, 05:29

Does multiAVCHD handle the remapping of LPCM to Bluray order when creating a Bluray structure, or does it expect the source mkv/ts/m2ts to already have the LPCM in the correct order?

I'm getting really confused when using eac3to or clownbd to create a source file for multiAVCHD, whether correct mapping is happening through the chain: eac3to will remap Bluray LPCM to normal when creating an mkv for example, but if that mkv is subsequently used by multiAVCHD to create a new Bluray structure, the mapping will be incorrect unless multiAVCHD does a remapping.

Vincent Vega

15th November 2010, 21:28

i have a few sample Dolby Media Encoder output files, that i'd like to try to use to author a mini test blu ray. however none of the doom9 SWs seems to be able to recognize these files.
DD+ (Standard target) encode - .ec3 file
DD+ (BD target) encode - .eb3 file
TrueHD encode - .mlp file
is there any free tool that can properly handle such file formats to mux these audios into m2ts/mkv? if not, what commercial software is supposed to work with these file extensions?

Music Fan

16th November 2010, 10:20

I read somewhere that we could put MLP in MKA container. But I don't know if MultiAVCHD will be able to open it.

Capsbackup

17th November 2010, 03:53

deank or anyone that remembers, for some unknown reason after using multiAVCHD for quite some time, I start getting the 30 second delay changing between titles to blank when in Reauthor mode. :(
There was a fix for this, but after searching for quite some time and many pages, I cant find it. I am hoping someone, or Dean if your still following this thread, can help!:o

BZeeme

17th November 2010, 13:00

Check this area

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1411335&highlight=AVSInfo#post1411335

Capsbackup

17th November 2010, 16:02

Check this area

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1411335&highlight=AVSInfo#post1411335

Thank you kindly. :)

deank

17th November 2010, 18:53

deank

17th November 2010, 18:54

I read somewhere that we could put MLP in MKA container. But I don't know if MultiAVCHD will be able to open it.

I'll need a sample file... Or you can rename to MKV and add it as 'external audio' - then check if it is recognized.

deank

17th November 2010, 18:56

Yes, I agree.

However, I get black thumbnails when creating Blu-rays out of DVD's, in which the video is re-encoded to H.264 (for testing purposes) and I get black thumbnails yet a perfect movie.

I'll test it tomorrow if I find time and will post back. I can't see a reason for back thumbs at all.

Dean

deank

17th November 2010, 19:08

I'm glad to announce another application called multiMAN which I created for PS3 consoles (which can run hombrew applications). It allows copying entire AVCHD or HDMV Blu-ray discs (no BD-J) to PS3's internal HDD and avoid using USB/SDHC/MS hdd/cards/sticks :)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/DSC00249_sm.JPG

In the next screenshots there is what you know as "SLIDE" menu in multiAVCHD, and which actually SLIDES :) to the left and right like a real slide/carousel menu. :)

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/DSC00312_sm.JPG

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/DSC00319_sm.JPG

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/DSC00318_sm.JPG

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/DSC00275_sm.JPG

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/avchd_ps3.jpg

Dean

Capsbackup

17th November 2010, 22:31

@deank;
This looks interesting! I have not used a PS3 before, but it sure looks like some cool features. I keep thinking one of these days I may have to try one! I always believed they were more for gaming, which I don't really do, but you have opened my eyes to some neat alternatives... :)

setarip_old

18th November 2010, 19:48

@deank

Congratulations on your release of multiMAN!

That explains your recent absence ;>}

MrVideo

18th November 2010, 22:10

I'm not the only one waiting for the following enhancement, so I'll be the one to stick my neck out and ask...

Is mAVCHD going to be updated, in the near future, to have simple menu creation?

Adub

20th November 2010, 05:49

Very cool. If I had a PS3 I'd totally love you right now. ;)

apollo13_2010

22nd November 2010, 07:16

I have a big problem with converting vids to avchd and sd-dvd.

I've tested my system with multiTEST and everything was fine.

I want to convert m2ts streams. The result ist a vid, thats seems to be filmed with a timelaps. So I searched the forum and I found in a thread, that this comes from a wrong fps - setting.

To this point, I had never changed this option. I used mediaInfo and became a framerate of 25 fps. That is the same as multiavchd has detected. So I changed in the transcode-menu the framerate from 'original' to 25.0

With this setting I get the following error in avisynth:

ConvertFPS: New frame rate too small. Must be greater than 33.3333 Increase or use 'zone='

I hope, you can help me...

Adub

22nd November 2010, 07:36

Hmm, it sounds like you may be having some problems with your decoder.

What happens when you play the original file in a software player like Media Player Classic (Home Cinema)? Does it have this same effect?

Also, find the Avisynth script that MultiAVCHD generated for your complete encode, and play that in MPC. What happens? Is everything normal, or are there issues?

apollo13_2010

22nd November 2010, 08:24

There are no problems playing the original vid (mpc and powerdvd), also the playback of the avs - script of the temp-folder is running without problems (I think it is normal, that there is no sound?).

deank

22nd November 2010, 09:00

It seems that your video is not actually 25.000fps but more like 50.000. What is the source?

apollo13_2010

22nd November 2010, 09:06

That's what mediainfo says:
Allgemein
ID : 1
Vollständiger Name : D:\hd_dvr\output\10.11.2010 22_13 Geheimnisse des Universums (Edited).m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
Dateigröße : 4,28 GiB
Dauer : 42min
Gesamte Bitrate : 14,5 Mbps
maximale Gesamtbitrate : 48,0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menü-ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format-Profil : High@L4.0
Format-Einstellungen für CABAC : Ja
Format-Einstellungen für ReFrame : 3 frames
Format_Settings_GOP : M=1, N=63
Codec-ID : 27
Dauer : 42min
Bitrate : 13,1 Mbps
Breite : 1 920 Pixel
Höhe : 1 080 Pixel
Bildseitenverhältnis : 16:9
Bildwiederholungsrate : 25,000 FPS
Standard : Component
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bits
Scantyp : Interlaced
Scanreihenfolge : oberes Feld zuerst
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.253
Stream-Größe : 3,88 GiB (91%)
colour_primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
transfer_characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
matrix_coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

deank

22nd November 2010, 22:16

25fps interlaced is not supported in AVCHD/Blu-ray... It must be 50fps interlaced or 25fps progressive.

Force multiAVCHD to 50fps and see what will happen.

shon3i

23rd November 2010, 00:41

25fps interlaced is not supported in AVCHD/Blu-ray... It must be 50fps interlaced or 25fps progressive.25 interlaced is allowed on Blu-Ray for 1080p

50i or 25p is not supported for blu-ray but is for AVCHD,

btw look here for allowed resolutions/fps combinations for blu-ray

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154533

but with x264 and fake-interlaced and pulldown this can be done.

Music Fan

23rd November 2010, 09:27

50i is supported by Avchd and BD. European AVCHD cameras turn in 50i. And I play without problem 50i videos on AVCHD.
25i doesn't exist.
But you are right about fake interlaced, we can make believe to the player that he plays 50i though he actually plays 25p with a flag.

shon3i

23rd November 2010, 21:46

25i doesn't exist.But how you call 25fps video with interlaced coding?

apollo13_2010

24th November 2010, 00:09

25fps interlaced is not supported in AVCHD/Blu-ray... It must be 50fps interlaced or 25fps progressive.

Force multiAVCHD to 50fps and see what will happen.

I made a few tests:

change input - properties of 50 fps --> crash of x264.exe
change output - properties of 50 fps --> the same speedproblem as no changes on the framerate

I tested also the following:
no change on framerate, transcoding 2 pass hq --> [09:06:46] *** Encoding : Pass one - content: [02:09:32]
[09:06:46] *** Encoding : x264 options: --preset slow --tune film -B 7030 --interlaced --direct spatial -p 1 --stats "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20101123\x264-stats.txt" -I 25 --level 4 -i 4 -r 3 --mixed-refs -b 3 --weightb -m 2 -t 2 --qcomp 0.5 --merange 14 -A all --8x8dct --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 15000 --vbv-maxrate 14000 --threads auto --thread-input --mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --b-pyramid strict --slices 0 --weightp 0 --qpfile "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20101123\IDR-x264-marks.txt" --rc-lookahead 25 --no-mbtree -o NUL "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20101123\20101123-090645-uncrop-running.avs"
[09:52:32] *** Speed P1 : 70.73 fps (elapsed: 00:45:46)
[09:52:32] *** Encoding : Pass two
[09:52:33] *** Encoding : x264 options: --preset slow --tune film -B 7030 --interlaced --direct spatial -p 2 --stats "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20101123\x264-stats.txt" -I 25 --level 4 -i 4 -r 3 --mixed-refs -b 3 --weightb -m 6 -t 2 --qcomp 0.5 --merange 14 -A all --8x8dct --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 15000 --vbv-maxrate 14000 --threads auto --thread-input --mvrange 511 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --b-pyramid strict --slices 0 --weightp 0 --qpfile "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20101123\IDR-x264-marks.txt" --rc-lookahead 25 --no-mbtree -o "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20101123\04.07.2010 00_53 Radio Rock Revolution (Edited).[1920x1080-25.000].264" "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20101123\20101123-090645-uncrop-running.avs"
[09:52:34] *** Speed P2 : 102969.53 fps (elapsed: 00:00:01)
[09:52:34] *** Speed : 70.68 fps overall (elapsed: 00:45:48 - Realtime x 2.83)

[09:52:36] *** Transcoding failed!

transcoding with 1 pass insane: speedproblem

Music Fan

24th November 2010, 09:29

But how you call 25fps video with interlaced coding?
50i, even if the source is actually 25p (like movies on Pal dvd).
And for the 25p videos with a fake interlaced encoding, it's also 50i for the player (that's the aim of the trick).
Anyway, if the source is 25p (fake interlaced or not), the deinterlacing mode to choose in the player is "movie" (2:2 pulldown).
If it's real 50i (filmed in 50i, which means 50 different frames), one has to choose "video" mode.
Same reasoning for 30p (or 29.97) and 60i (or 59.94).

setarip_old

26th November 2010, 04:39

@deank

Hi!

Now that you've apparently run out of new projects (for the moment), perhaps those poor little orphaned HD-DVD chapters and subtitles and multiple languages...

MrVideo

26th November 2010, 05:59

Now that you've apparently run out of new projects (for the moment), perhaps those poor little orphaned HD-DVD chapters and subtitles and multiple languages...

Ah, but he hasn't run out of projects... see the posting above about the simple title capability. :D

guru1968

26th November 2010, 22:48

Hello,

now that I own this brand new Panasonic 3D Viera TV I wanted to give AVCHD @ SD-Card a try...

After some initial frustration I learned that the Viera TV needs it own special AVCHD format - which should be well covered by multiAVCHD 4.1 which I just tried
-- but I've come to even more questions and frustration:

so, what I did: I had two existing AVCHDs with menus and sorts like this which are not working on Panasonic Equippement -- I tried those two AVCHDs burned onto DVD+DLs with my Panasonic 3D Blu-Ray Player and it started playing the intro but at the point when the menu normally shows up, the player just powered-off itself :-(

so, I imported those two titles via "Import Folder" and they were recognized, perfect...

then I clicked on "Start", selected the PAL/50Hz TV/Camcorder setting and let the program do its work...

BUT, and this is the bug:
the final files which I should store onto the SD-Card:/Private folder are still bigger than 4GiB!!! - even though the option to split at 4000Mib was actually checked!
(there are in fact of the same size as the input files, so no splitting at all was done)

what else must I do in order to convert any AVCHDs into a proper format supported by my Viera TV?

<Edit> I thought this had to do with the fact that I was writing to a NTFS drive (no size limitation); so I set the output path to be the (FAT32) SDHC card itself...
no go - when copying passed the 4GiB size limit, the program fails with a "disc full" error ...

so this definitely is a bug - please fix it as soon as possible...

<Edit2> I found another AVCHD to play with - this already had the main .m2ts file seperated in 4GiB chunks so it fits on a FAT32 SDHC card...
I did the same as described above, when program was ready, I copied the AVCHD-folders content into the <SDCARD>:\PRIVATE folder - didn't work
the I renamed the PRIVATE folder to SD_VIDEO - this also did not work
-- The TV always says that it could not find any playable file :-((

pleeeease - what is going on here? you advertise multiAVCHD with every second word to be Panasonic Viera compatible - so why does it still not work then?

could you please reply with step-by-step instructions how to produce Panasonic conform AVCHD data plus the exact content of the SD-Card!?

p.s.
actually it looks like:
I:\SD_VIDEO\AVCHDTN\...
I:\SD_VIDEO\BDMV\...
I:\SD_VIDEO\HDAVCTN\...
I:\SD_VIDEO\IISVPL\...

before renaming it was:
I:\PRIVATE\AVCHDTN\...
I:\PRIVATE\BDMV\...
I:\PRIVATE\HDAVCTN\...
I:\PRIVATE\IISVPL\...

both of these variants do NOT work on the Panasonic Viera TV :-((

alluringreality

28th November 2010, 19:01

In order to have AVCHD compatibility with 11 sub-menus, I tried using DVD Architect Studio to create a non-java Blu-ray disc. I used multiAVCHD re-author to replace the video and add chapters. The AVCHD Strict option was used for the multiAVCHD output.

The files are in the quote from the following link. There is a report that the chapters from the above process do not work on a Panasonic DMP-BD85K. Any ideas on the chapter issue?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=19557393#post19557393

EDIT: I think I'm going to try the process from http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1460405#post1460405 as a work-around way to try authoring 1080p/24 video as AVCHD with sub-menus.

mrcool

29th November 2010, 23:20

I have a small question regarding the feature set of multiAVCHD. I've successfully managed to convert mkv files to AVCHD. The AVCHD folders are then burned and I can watch them on my Blu-Ray Player. I could not however find an option for batch processing. What I mean by that is I would like to have one AVCHD per mkv file (per movie). Whenever I put in more mkv files they are all put into one AVCHD compilation. Is it possible to put in 10 files and let the PC run over night to process and have 10 AVCHDs on your harddrive afterwards? Thanks for any suggestions!

mpucoder

30th November 2010, 00:38

deank

30th November 2010, 09:33

Hello,

now that I own this brand new Panasonic 3D Viera TV I wanted to give AVCHD @ SD-Card a try...

p.s.
actually it looks like:
I:\SD_VIDEO\AVCHDTN\...
I:\SD_VIDEO\BDMV\...
I:\SD_VIDEO\HDAVCTN\...
I:\SD_VIDEO\IISVPL\...

before renaming it was:
I:\PRIVATE\AVCHDTN\...
I:\PRIVATE\BDMV\...
I:\PRIVATE\HDAVCTN\...
I:\PRIVATE\IISVPL\...

both of these variants do NOT work on the Panasonic Viera TV :-((

If you read the log from multiAVCHD you'll find that the correct path is

1) I:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\INDEX.BDM
2) When you load your AVCHD folders click [properties] and change the processing to FULL-MODE (you'll see [f] in front of the titles and not [p]).

Dean

Music Fan

30th November 2010, 09:39

Hi dean,
I tried to add chapters on a mp4 video to save it in MKV, but MultiAVCHD always reencode the video though I didn't ask it. Is it normal ?
I had never tested the MKV output before.

deank

30th November 2010, 09:58

Yes, all three file modes use re-encoding of the source.

mrcool

30th November 2010, 17:46

You must have a lot of computers to be making all these mkv files from your own Blu-Ray disks. How can the conversion to mkv be out-pacing the making of AVCHD? Wouldn't you want to automate the entire chain?

No, I have just one PC which is exactly why I would like to put the files in a queue and batch process them :-)

Over the years I have accumulated some files that I have ripped to mkv format. Now that I have a BR-burner I would like to burn them in a format my BR-player understands. It would be helpful if I could create multiple AVCHDs over night.

Is there any option for this?

idbirch2

2nd December 2010, 18:30

Vincent Vega

3rd December 2010, 19:52

I'll need a sample file... Or you can rename to MKV and add it as 'external audio' - then check if it is recognized.

hi Dean, here's a few sample dolby media encoder output files:

http://www.mediafire.com/?9u1mrfwghjwt964

archive includes:
- source 7.1 wav
- .ec3 - DD+ standard target
- .eb3 - DD+ BD target
- .mlp - TrueHD standard/BD target

can you you "teach" Multiavchd to recognize these dolby file types?

deank

3rd December 2010, 19:56

Hi Dean,

I just dug out MultiAVCHD again after finding out it can convert 3D BluRay discs into old-school anaglyph 3D. I'm trying to convert the 3D Avatar BluRay but after configuring all my options (MKV output, ColorCode Anaglyph) I get an error before anything actually happens:

(RT) Invalid array index(2). Valid range (1-1) - Line 104.

I'm using the mpls file as input (00854.mpls on the Avatar 3D BluRay) if that helps. Any ideas what's going wrong?

Currently the source is compressed and line ERROR numbers can't help me. I'll recompile multiAVCHD and will post an update and then I'll figure it out. If you can send me this .mpls it may be easier to find where the problem is.

hi Dean, here's a few sample dolby media encoder output files:

http://www.mediafire.com/?9u1mrfwghjwt964

archive includes:
- source 7.1 wav
- .ec3 - DD+ standard target
- .eb3 - DD+ BD target
- .mlp - TrueHD standard/BD target

can you you "teach" Multiavchd to recognize these dolby file types?

There is support for .mlp files already. DD+ is not supported for muxing, so there is no use of it at the moment.

Music Fan

4th December 2010, 11:17

And 7.1 wav in 48/24 should work (I had tested successfully a 7.1 wav in 48/16 with MultiAVCHD).

guru1968

4th December 2010, 21:04

If you read the log from multiAVCHD you'll find that the correct path is

1) I:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\INDEX.BDM
2) When you load your AVCHD folders click [properties] and change the processing to FULL-MODE (you'll see [f] in front of the titles and not [p]).

Dean

1) actually the log reads:
[20:48:54] T:\AVCHD-20101204-205631 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[20:48:54] Copy T:\AVCHD-20101204-205631 to X:\PRIVATE\ of SDHC/SD/MMC card.
[20:48:54] or SD_VIDEO and PRIVATE to root of your SDHC/SD/MMC card.

so that's different to what you just wrote...
the log says to copy the content of the AVCHD-20101204-205631 folder (i.e. not the AVCHD-20101204-205631 folder itself) to the PRIVATE folder--only its content, you just mentionend to copy the whole AVCHD folder itself into the PRIVATE folder - that's somewhat different...

2) oh, I see: I have to click a button labelled "fast mode" to change the processing to full mode!? are you kidding me or what? no offense - I only don't like stupid interfaces :-P
btw: the original processing mode was [m] what ever that means...

so, it's doing definetly more than before now, hope it works

and nevertheless - thanx for this great program; you only really need to clean up the interface

<Edit> :-(
still doesn't work - neither in my TV (TX-P50VT20E) nor in my Blu-Ray player (DMP-BDT 300); I selected 'TV / Camcorder (PAL 50Hz)' as output option; now i am trying this with 'Panasonic Blu-ray players' output option
...frustration is ongoing :-/

<Edit2> :-(
also no-go with the Panasonic Blu-ray players option...

what else do I need to do besides setting the full-processing mode?

daberti

6th December 2010, 21:40

Deank, please is there a way to generate an mkv/h264 with AC3 of a bitrate other than 128 out of a Bluray?

Thanks

C2D

7th December 2010, 00:45

chatorex

7th December 2010, 01:43

I have a compilation of 39 titles, but for any reason, after i added the most recent title, when i want play the compilation on my ps3, just the most recent added title plays, any of my others titles plays, if i want to play the title 1, starts the title 39, if i want to play the title 3, starts the title 39. Anyone to can help me with this issue.

Thanks in advance.

daberti

7th December 2010, 14:41

Yes, if I do understand what you are saying, you basically have to get TSmuxer, extract the audio from the respective m2ts file, encode it using megui (you can use any other one but I use megui) and when you add the bluray to multiAVCHD, you go to the respective playlist/m2ts file and manually add the encoded audio. Quite easy. If this is what you mean anyway :p

Huge thanks :)
it works. Just a nuance: if i trim the video within MultiAvchd, the external audio is not trimmed (yet can be demuxed trimmed from TsMuxer).

C2D

7th December 2010, 17:31

After transcoding some special features in one bluray the pop up menu for each video is gone, any way to fix this?

MrVideo

8th December 2010, 02:02

encode it using megui (you can use any other one but I use megui)

To be quite technical here, megui doesn't do any encoding at all. It uses the x264 H.264 encoder.

C2D

8th December 2010, 02:17

More like neroAacEnc ^^

Since its audio :p

daberti

8th December 2010, 11:41

More like neroAacEnc ^^

Since its audio :p

Nope. Aften AC-3 since we're talking about AC3 as final destination :p

MrVideo

9th December 2010, 07:07

Nope. Aften AC-3 since we're talking about AC3 as final destination :p

Oops, I stand corrected. Point is, meGUI doesn't do any encoding at all.

C2D

9th December 2010, 10:02

True! But its quite easy to work with :)

MrVideo

9th December 2010, 22:26

True! But its quite easy to work with :)

For repeatability, it isn't. Not just meGUI, but no GUI program is really worthwhile when you repeat stuff over and over (for simple stuff).

I haven't used meGUI in ages. I do all of my work via Z-shell scripts. I have cygwin installed on my system, as I am a born and bred Unix guy. That allows me to write scripts that have command line options to handle daily chores of the stuff that I do. It handles the video and, if needed, audio encoding and wrapping with MKV.

I control the x264 encoder settings, as well as the AC3 (aften) encoder settings.

I just enter the name of the script in the Xterm window (like a comand.exe window) and the needed options, along with the transport stream's filename and let it do its thing. No muss, no fuss.

GUI's are not the be-all to end-all. Complicated jobs do require GUIs, like multiAVCHD. Encoding of video and audio does not.

C2D

10th December 2010, 00:47

For repeatability, it isn't. Not just meGUI, but no GUI program is really worthwhile when you repeat stuff over and over (for simple stuff).

I haven't used meGUI in ages. I do all of my work via Z-shell scripts. I have cygwin installed on my system, as I am a born and bred Unix guy. That allows me to write scripts that have command line options to handle daily chores of the stuff that I do. It handles the video and, if needed, audio encoding and wrapping with MKV.

I control the x264 encoder settings, as well as the AC3 (aften) encoder settings.

I just enter the name of the script in the Xterm window (like a comand.exe window) and the needed options, along with the transport stream's filename and let it do its thing. No muss, no fuss.

GUI's are not the be-all to end-all. Complicated jobs do require GUIs, like multiAVCHD. Encoding of video and audio does not.

No one said the program is worth the space it takes but that it is easy to work with.

MrVideo

10th December 2010, 12:27

No one said the program is worth the space it takes but that it is easy to work with.

For jobs that are variable, i.e., not consistently the same, meGUI is a great tool for one-off jobs. But, if you are constantly doing the same thing over and over, but with a new source each time, you are better off writing a script to do those repeating jobs. It will go a lot faster, i.e., the time it takes to actually start the job, from minutes, to seconds.

BTW, meGUI itself is actually pretty small. It is all the other programs that it uses to do the job that takes up the space.

jbeale

15th December 2010, 08:12

I'm trying to author a very basic Blu-Ray disc with multiAVCHD 4.1 (build 770). My project has only one title, with several chapters. Source is a single 80 minute long 1920x1080i60 MP4 file encoded by x264. The video part works fine, I'm just trying to understand how to author the menus. I want to have one title menu page, and a chapters page (or pages). So far I have got it close to working. Using the Title #1 properties, "custom" menu, static/slide type with my background BMP image I have an OK main menu, except that it has the multiAVCHD.deanBG.com website watermark very large in the background. Can I turn that off?

Also, all chapter thumbnails come up as black frames. Is something extra required? I do have avisynth on my system, but maybe I need to tell multiAVCHD where the files are? How do I do that? Thanks for any help!

Music Fan

15th December 2010, 10:28

it has the multiAVCHD.deanBG.com website watermark very large in the background. Can I turn that off?
In the menu tab, you can change or erase the headline and the footer, and also the smart line in general tab, below menu preview.

jbeale

15th December 2010, 11:12

>In the menu tab, you can change or erase the headline and the footer, and also the smart line in general tab, below menu preview.

Thank you, yes I have already erased those three items. But this is a fourth text item, about 80% transparent, script font, large, centered on the screen, covers almost the full width of the screen.

EDIT: solved it. set "Transparency" slider under "background image" selector fully to the left.

deank

17th December 2010, 09:30

From an email from a German user:

Subject: Experience with multiAVCHD

Dear Mr. Kasabow,

I transfered AVCHD-Data from my computer to Panasonic Blu-ray Disc-Recorder. Panasonic Service recommended multiAVCHD. I should transfer with SD-card and not with USB....[cut]

Hahah :) :rolleyes:

Emulgator

17th December 2010, 11:26

Congratulations, Dean. Well earned.

setarip_old

17th December 2010, 19:43

@deank

Richly deserved compliment and notoriety!

Perhaps it's time for you to get a press agent, so that the major PC magazines can consider publishing articles about multiAVCHD - the true "Swiss Army Knife" of conversion and presentation ;>}

rendez2k

18th December 2010, 10:30

Just been trying to convert a 23.976fps MKV to SD DVD PAL. The convert went fine but theres almost a slight 'blur' on everything. I assume this has come from the frame rate conversion and the extra frames?

Music Fan

18th December 2010, 12:10

MrVideo

18th December 2010, 21:02

You have to do a Pal Speed-up to avoid blur.
You can change the fps of your mkv (put 25), but the sound won't have anymore the same duration than the image, so you have to treat it separately to accelerate it.

The problem there will be trying to keep the sound in sync. Speeding up 23.976 to 25 is 1.042709376. Try getting the end of the program in sync.

Since most PAL DVD players will handle NTSC stuff, trying creating a 23.976 DVD and see if it will play. Nothing lost from trying.

I know, 23.976 isn't NTSC, but the player should handle it.

jetro75

20th December 2010, 12:52

Hallo 'i'm Alex, sorry in advance for my english i'm italian.
I'm a lukely owner of a panasoniv viera tv model txp42g20E and i'd like to play movies in hd format by avchd (mkv to avchd). i founded multiavchd program to do that and read a lot of thread on a dean forum following detailed info about programs installation and setting (avysinth haali ffdshow) initially every test didn't work.
I use as sample an mkv file 1280x720p, frame rate 23.976, ref frames 4, single audio track and no subtitles
transcode to gain a compliant file, "pal speedup" and push on TV/camcoder pal 50 Hrz, once finish i've put the entire folder avchd on a private folder on my external hard disc and tried to play on my tv, i see an image preview but when click play it say "file is unreadble", trouble seems to be in manual transcoding, i've tried "fit all" option and it converted a sample properly, so i've tried to convert a movie "The Matrix" 25.000 fps and everythings were ok.
then i've tried to converte "state of play" 23.976 fps and it didn't convert properly, in a movement scene i see alway an unfocused images, i have no idea what's the matter but my viera tv is a 2010 model so maybe it can reproduce 23.976 fps movies so i've tried to convert it with same fps and program gave me this error: "floating point division by zero line 23", please help!!!

Sylph

25th December 2010, 19:02

Hi Dean!

Is there any way to convert BD-J disc to AVCHD, which will play on Philips BDP7500 player using USB HDD? (Sorry fo bad English)

Music Fan

26th December 2010, 11:44

I have a problem with MKV 4/3 (AVC in 720.576) : it's considered as 16/9 by MultiAVCHD (and the picture of this title in the menu is stretched in 16/9 though it should be pillarboxed). My player is well settled to respect 4/3 not to stretch it in 16/9 and plays correctly MKV 4/3.
It used to work before with MultiAVCHD. Is it a bug ?
Other (little) problem : the pop-up menu is very little and placed on the left of the screen when displayed on this title in 720.576. Can't the pop-up menu be displayed correctly on SD (480, 576) titles ?
It's displayed correctly on HD videos.

deank

28th December 2010, 14:52

Ghitulescu

28th December 2010, 15:34

Hi Dean!

Is there any way to convert BD-J disc to AVCHD, which will play on Philips BDP7500 player using USB HDD? (Sorry fo bad English)

You're the only one who can test it, try all the variants.

deank

28th December 2010, 15:44

Hi Dean!

Is there any way to convert BD-J disc to AVCHD, which will play on Philips BDP7500 player using USB HDD? (Sorry fo bad English)

You can convert it to AVCHD in re-author mode by selecting target device as PS3. In normal author mode you can import the movie playlist and convert it to AVCHD, too.

Ghitulescu

28th December 2010, 15:53

You can convert it to AVCHD in re-author mode by selecting target device as PS3. In normal author mode you can import the movie playlist and convert it to AVCHD, too.

You did not read the whole sentence, Dean. All Philips (like the Samsungs, which they are made upon) do not allow the playback of HD movies from USB (only MP3, JPG, DivX SD, WMV/WMA).

Should nevertheless Philips provide a FW, it's only Sylph the one that can see if it works.

deank

28th December 2010, 16:54

I didn't realize philips doesn't support HD video from USB... then he can create AVI (DivX) (SD) from BD-J disc :)

Manaka

28th December 2010, 17:19

When I re-author some blu-rays that have two video tracks in the main movie file (picture-in-picture commentary), after muxing the commentary video track get deleted by MultiAVCHD which result unplayable disc. Any help for this problem ?

Music Fan

28th December 2010, 18:18

You must untick the option to match the pop-up menu to video resolution.

About 4:3/16:9 - there is no change in multiAVCHD about that. Check if the mkv is really set for 4:3.
Thanks for the answer.

1)It 's unticked, I didn't change the default setting.

2)Yes it is 4/3, and my player send this MKV in 4/3 (pillarbox) when I play it as a file (not in an AVCHD structure).:confused:
But I played this AVCHD from a USB key, I should try on a dvd to see if my player's behavior is different.

setarip_old

28th December 2010, 18:47

@deank, @Ghitulescu

"Ghitulescu" said:You did not read the whole sentence, Dean. All Philips (like the Samsungs, which they are made upon) do not allow the playback of HD movies from USB (only MP3, JPG, DivX SD, WMV/WMA).

The following information from a review of the Philips BDP7500 appears to indicate that the statement made by "Ghitulecscu" is in error:

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/blu-ray-players/philips-bdp7500-blu-ray-player-674276/review

Chief among these is its support for 7.1 surround sound and both the Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio lossless audio formats found on Blu-ray discs. It's also compatible with a variety of music (WMA and MP3) and video (DivX, DivX HD, AVCHD) files, all of which can be played via a USB stick or disc.

Ghitulescu

28th December 2010, 19:33

@deank, @Ghitulescu

"Ghitulescu" said:

The following information from a review of the Philips BDP7500 appears to indicate that the statement made by "Ghitulecscu" is in error:

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/blu-ray-players/philips-bdp7500-blu-ray-player-674276/review

I'm afraid there's a problem here. Firstly, that the operation manual of Philips does not say a single word about playing AVCHD files or similar (DivX HD) from USB (only disks are mentioned there), whereas divx/jpg/wmv/mp3 files are mentioned as playable from both disks and USB (one needs a bit of experience with reading these manuals :rolleyes:). Secondly, the FAQ of the same Philips says exactly this. I'm sorry TechRadar contradicts Philips, but it's not the first time when magazines and testers were wrong (paid to be wrong ??), anyway only DivX HD was mentioned there with generalised conclusions.

There's only one explanation: there must have been a FW upgrade in between. Whether it's global, or restricted to certain countries, I don't know, I don't buy Philips. This is why I directed that guy to test himself.

setarip_old

28th December 2010, 20:15

@Ghitulescu anyway only DivX HD was mentioned there with generalised conclusions.

C'mon - The quote I provided clearly states video (DivX, DivX HD, AVCHD) files, all of which can be played via a USB stick or disc.

Last time I checked, "AVCHD" = Advanced Video Coding High Definition...

Music Fan

28th December 2010, 21:02

Or there is a little error and it could mean AVC HD (AVC files in HD and not the AVCHD structure). It's just a guess.

Music Fan

28th December 2010, 22:23

You must untick the option to match the pop-up menu to video resolution.

About 4:3/16:9 - there is no change in multiAVCHD about that. Check if the mkv is really set for 4:3.
I tried again with the same MKV, and now the 4/3 is correctly displayed.:eek::confused:

I ticked the option to match the pop-up menu to video resolution for my 576i file, and there is the same problem than when unticked.

Sylph

29th December 2010, 09:58

You did not read the whole sentence, Dean. All Philips (like the Samsungs, which they are made upon) do not allow the playback of HD movies from USB (only MP3, JPG, DivX SD, WMV/WMA).

Should nevertheless Philips provide a FW, it's only Sylph the one that can see if it works.

Yes, I provided the tests
AVCHD without Java menu works VERY well from USB without problems.

BD-J disk re-authored well using PlayStation 3 mode, but when I tried to play this, my player shows black screen, and writes Browser on his LCD. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

Ghitulescu

29th December 2010, 10:43

@setarip_old:
I know what does AVCHD means, I tested myself long time ago this Philips in a showroom, and I've read the article. From the last to the first: the article does not say anything more that they used DivX-HD to watch, the rest is a freely adaptation of the marketing flyers; the German model couln't play anything HD and the salesperson confirmed it (unwillingly).

If a particular model does accept AVCHD on USB then it was a FW upgrade in between.

@sylph:
There are various potential issues, as AVCHD is not Blu-ray, one can only hope to play a ripped Blu-ray in AVCHD form on a HD player. AVCHD, while considered by many to be a sort of "BD-light", was actually designed to fit HD camcorder formats and media (SD, DVD). It won't accept anything than H.264 (MPEG-2 camcorders pack the movie differently, so the HDV ones) and AC-3/LPCM (up to 5.1 chn.) and features no subtitles. There are also restrictions concerning the various codec parameters and levels. Anything else (like subtitles which some camcorders use to store the date/time/timecode) is outside the standard and presents major risks of non-acceptance from other devices, even from the same manufacturer.

Playing any AVCHD video on any HD player is always a trial-and-error procedure, which by no means can be generalised, not even for the same model (as firmware changes may bring or remove features).

Wasn't the same with the DVD, long time ago, when DVDRs burned with different burners were or not compatible with a certain DVD player model?

Or today, when a VRO DVDR cannot be played in most other devices....

Sylph

29th December 2010, 13:01

@Ghitulescu hm, my player in AVCHD mode can play movie, how it was originally on Blu-ray disc (with menu, subtitles and all sound formats).
Only problem with Java menu - can't understand how to make it work through USB.

Seems I should buy Dune Prime HD 3.0 player))

P.S. Asked about this from Philips support - they don't know what JAVA is it))

P.S.2 People, who use Dune Prime/Base say, that BD-J image takes much more time to load and it's necessary to wait at least 2 minutes. Will try today this thing.

Ghitulescu

29th December 2010, 14:14

@Ghitulescu hm, my player in AVCHD mode can play movie, how it was originally on Blu-ray disc (with menu, subtitles and all sound formats).
Only problem with Java menu - can't understand how to make it work through USB.
I forgot to tell you that neither menus nor java are allowed on AVCHD disks. So it's a good thing that your player can use ripped movies from USB. Keep it like this (don't upgrade it).
P.S. Asked about this from Philips support - they don't what JAVA is
Just brilliant :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
P.S.2 People, who use Dune Prime/Base say, that BD-J image takes much more time to load and it's necessary to wait at least 2 minutes. Will try today this thing.
They shouldn't need more time than on a standalone (several seconds) as the Sigma processor is faster than or equal to those found in standalones (sigma, mediatek, realtek or own design, like Uniphier or Pioneer), and the access to an optical disk is generally slower than the access to a HDD, even through USB2.0.

setarip_old

29th December 2010, 19:37

@Music Fan, @Ghitulescu
As stated by "Sylph": Yes, I provided the tests AVCHD without Java menu works VERY well from USB without problems. It works with the model player "Sylph" asked about.

So kindly cease with the "woulda, coulda, shoulda, maybe, theoretically, once upon a time, a long long time ago..."

Music Fan

29th December 2010, 19:53

@ setarip_old : Sylph wrote it after my message.:rolleyes:

Music Fan

29th December 2010, 19:57

I forgot to tell you that neither menus nor java are allowed on AVCHD disks.
Yes but some players can play Java on dvd (BD5/9), that's what Sylph should try. But I don't remember if MultiAVCHD do recognize Java.

setarip_old

29th December 2010, 20:44

@Music Fan @ setarip_old : Sylph wrote it after my message.Yes - (My post was addressed to you and another...)

Sylph

29th December 2010, 23:44

P.S.2 People, who use Dune Prime/Base say, that BD-J image takes much more time to load and it's necessary to wait at least 2 minutes. Will try today this thing.

Result: 0
Have been waiting for 6 minutes and still black screen =(
Maybe I re-authored this BD-J wrong, I don't know.

v1rtu0s1ty

31st December 2010, 03:35

Hey folks, I added my 18 1920x1080, 29.97 files in multiAVCHD. All the files became red. It says REF Count 5. What does it mean?

Manaka

31st December 2010, 08:15

Is there anyway to multi-select playlists and blank them? thanks

Ghitulescu

31st December 2010, 09:24

Yes but some players can play Java on dvd (BD5/9), that's what Sylph should try. But I don't remember if MultiAVCHD do recognize Java.
He wanted from USB, not from disks, which disks are specifically mentioned as playable, both in the manual and in the FAQ.

@Music Fan Yes - (My post was addressed to you and another...)

Anything that goes beyond both standards would maybe/eventually/once upon a time cease to function and/or be restricted to a specific device (at todays built quality, this wonder would last 2 maybe 3 years). Like both Sony cases showed us, once the marketing campaign reached the turning point, several features have been silently withdrawn (or added) by means of FW/HW upgrades.

Every current BD-player would play silver BDs, recorded BDRs (if not cinavia-infected) and AVCHDs on both media. ONLY. What is extra depends on the willingness of the manufacturer. Remember that until the last model, the Sharps won't read even BDRs. Since HDD and USB-sticks won't contribute to this GEMA/RIAA tax on copying (like DVDs, CDRs and BDRs do), if one copies a movie on a CD/DVD/BD, at least they will get some money therefrom - thus USB or DLNA playback generally allows lower quality content. Again, what comes extra is a bonus, not aquired rights.

I'm not saying that HQ content is not allowed, I'm saying that this should not be taken for granted (various restrictions apply) not that this is a generalised issue. One (the potential buyer) should be very careful in checking the features s/he's interested in, before buying it.

A short example: I own a Humax iCord HD PVR. Meanwhile Humax launched 2 other models, one is iCord HD PDR, the other is iCord HD+. The last two models are strongly crippled. Yet several magazines allegedly tested the HD+ model, and "verified" that the HD+ model could record 4 channels while watching the 5th, which is a feature of HD not one of HD+ (which does 2 channels +1). Various online shops also quoted the HD+ with the features of HD. The same for PDR (which has the USB and the network disabled because of Sky). So, one goes into a shop after reading the online prospect (from Humax), asks for the HD model, but the shopseller says: Hey, look at this brand new PDR, it does everything the HD does but it plays Divx and AVI and MP3, take one. Then the buyer finds out that s/he cannot copy the movies from the STB and floods the fora with questions: how to enable the USB/network - instead of going back at the shop, accusing it of false advertising.

Short example 2: Is anyone aware that almost all photocameras sold in EU that do film (as a bonus) are restricted to max. 30 minutes of continuous shooting? That in the case it won't stop after 30 seconds, or even 10 (like my Olympus). And this longer time is acheievd mainly by employing a lower resolution (like VGA)? This is partly because of the import tax regulations, partly because the manufacturer also has real camcorders (like Canon, Panasonic or Samsung) and partly because the media doesn't allow longer files. But it's so nice to advertise the photocamera as filming brilliant high-definition movies. And yet not a single speciality magazine does mention these restrictions when discussing a particular model.

The idea was to show that more than half of the questions here are generally directed towards avoiding the intentional crippling of the gear, which unfeatures were never, less, confusingly or falsely made public. MultiAVCHD started this way BTW.

Music Fan

31st December 2010, 09:53

He wanted from USB, not from disks, which disks are specifically mentioned as playable, both in the manual and in the FAQ.
Ok, but he tried to re-author a BD containing Java, so the first thing to know is if MultiAVCHD can open it, and if yes, can it keep Java in re-author mode.

Ghitulescu

31st December 2010, 10:25

Hey folks, I added my 18 1920x1080, 29.97 files in multiAVCHD. All the files became red. It says REF Count 5. What does it mean?

Your files are not the originals, because refs is too high for this resolution, from my memory I think it should be 3 for this frame size. It should work on a PC though, as it has a larger memory (RAM) than a standalone.

v1rtu0s1ty

31st December 2010, 18:52

I got it fixed using -refs 4. However, 2 different machine is complaining about AVSinfo.exe crashing. One is on Windows XP and my other machine is Windows 7. It is saying, everytime something gets processed, "AVSinfo.exe has stopped working". How do I fix this issue? My Windows 7 doesn't have any antivirus installed nor any blocker programs.

Here is a screenshot of the error. I will have to click the "Close Program" button in order for multiavchd to continue. However, it will popup again.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8340/avsinfo.png

v1rtu0s1ty

31st December 2010, 19:09

Doing some search, looks like I need avisynth installed. Hmmmm.

UPDATE:

After installing avisynth, the error went away! :D WOOHOO!

v1rtu0s1ty

31st December 2010, 21:34

I couldn't figure out how to choose a frame from each of my clips so I can use it on the chapter menu as thumbnails. Where do I do that?

Also, the first dvd I burned worked on my PS3. I chose AVCHD disk. However, it didn't play on my Pioneer BDP-320p. But the other AVCHD iso that I burned from someone in avsforum.com played well on my 320p bd player. The difference I am seeing is that his .iso only contained 2 directories, BDMV and HDAVCTN. Mine contains

AVCHDTN
BDMV
details.txt
HDAVCTN
IISVPL
multiAVCHD.log
multiAVCHD.mpf

What should I do?

Capsbackup

1st January 2011, 04:03

PS3 and standalone players behave differently, as you have discovered. Universal playback for both of your players could prove difficult, and maybe will not be an option if you are creating BD5/9 backups. Movie only will be your most likely successful method. BD25 should work though.
For your Pioneer BDP-320p, you could try the Blu-ray option with multiAVCHD, though I would have thought AVCHD would work too.
For my backups on my Sony S360, I use Blu-ray option, where I only keep the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders and delete the others you mention.

v1rtu0s1ty

2nd January 2011, 05:53

I got it to work now. I clicked AVCHD strict. :)

However, the thumbnails on each chapter is blank. It's not able to extract a frame from the clip. Maybe, I am doing it incorrectly. I clicked Poster button and it put the time on one of the fields. Also, when I click right arrow on my remote control to scroll thru each chapters, the whole screen goes black for 1.5 seconds, and then it returns the screen with the new chapter. It does this on all chapters. What should I check/uncheck so that it doesn't goes black?

Or is it currently a bug that's being worked on?

Karl Beem

4th January 2011, 21:50

MultiAvchd just auto updated. Now it says that I have the latest build but multiavchd.dat is outdated and that I should close the program. What's wrong?

MrVideo

5th January 2011, 03:24

Short example 2: Is anyone aware that almost all photocameras sold in EU that do film (as a bonus) are restricted to max. 30 minutes of continuous shooting? But it's so nice to advertise the photocamera as filming brilliant high-definition movies.

You're able to put film in a digital camera. Neat :D

You are video recording, not filming. There isn't any film in the device. :D :D :D

mpucoder

5th January 2011, 04:33

You're able to put film in a digital camera. Neat :D

Isn't that something like taping a show with a DVR?

aleacido

5th January 2011, 16:25

hallo, i really appreciate this software, but maybe i founded a bug in split movie. i tried to split a BD movie (only principal movie) to fix it for 2 dvd9 not using the split volume operation, but making it in 2 separate sessions to permit the cut at a chapter point. So first i have to use the cut end button in properties , and everything is fine and the movie is perfectely trimmed. but for second part i have to use the cut start button. it starts the conversion and seems ok, but at the end of conversion i have a double error, in muxing A/V and menu create, it's like multiavchd try to cut twice the movie, at start of process and at the end of conversion, so to complete the movie obviously cannot find the file (because is already trimmed), so i have all the necessary files in temp folder, but the final resul is a zero time movie. Is a known bug or where i make mistakes.
i put the log file.
tks for help
ale
[00.43.42] Initialising...
[00.43.42] Checking for new version...
[00.43.43] You have the latest build.
[00.43.43] Happy holidays and thank you for the support, guys! multiAVCHD is now TWO YEARS old :)
[00.43.43] Consistency check finished!
[00.43.43] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[00.43.43] 2 years and 10 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[00.43.43] 412 people supported it with donations
[00.43.43] and you are the 4034563 one to launch the program...
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[00.43.43] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04010767]

[00.44.07] MAKER/Equipment ID: NERO
[00.44.07] Created: 08/08/2007 00:54:53

[00.44.07] *** 1. Back to the Future II
[00.44.07] *** Scanning playlist (00000.mpls). Please wait...
[00.44.08] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[00.44.08] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 01:47:59.296] [00:10:00.000]
[00.44.11] *** Detected media file: [00000.m2ts, 01:47:59.221] (24528 MiB)
[00.44.11] *** Playitem size exceeds split point of 7900 MiB (set in Author tab).
[00.44.11] *** Playlist marked for full processing mode. (split/join)
[00.44.11] *** Detected chapters #: 00:00:00.000;00:02:57.509;00:04:17.632;00:12:44.388;00:17:09.111;00:21:16.525;00:26:59.659;00:34:15.427;00:38:32.476;00:46:13.061;00:50:35.449;00:55:32.619;01:01:30.143;01:07:14.195;01:14:45.939;01:28:00.608;01:34:43.301;01:37:46.025;01:40:37.238;01:43:25.489;01:47:59.055
[00.44.11] *** Playlist duration : 01:47:59.221 (24528 MiB)

[00.44.11] Added 1 AVCHD compatible folder(s).

***** Calculated bitrate suggestions to fit media [7950 MiB] (in 3724 steps of 3 kbps)
[ 1] New bitrate: 16658 kbps (original: 27827) - Back to the Future II - II Tempo
***** Expected output size: 7949 MiB

[00.47.06] [AUTO-FIT]: Title#01 16658 kbps, 1920x1080 -> 1920x1080 -> 1920x1080

[00.51.16] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[00.51.20] Destination [C:]: NTFS, 44333.77 MiB (43.295 GiB) free space
[00.51.20] Temp folder [c:]: NTFS, 44333.77 MiB (43.295 GiB) free space

[00.51.20] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.1 (build 770)
[00.51.20] Selected output mode: AVCHD compatible player (DVD/BD-R disc)

[00.51.20] Processing one title...
[00.51.21] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[00.51.21] Processing PLAYLIST (full mode) (split/join) (G:\Back to the Future II\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls)...
[00.51.21] M2TS stream split set at 7900MiB...
[00.51.21] Title is trimmed: 00:55:30 - 01:47:59[00.51.22] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[00.51.22] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[00.51.22] Detected video: V_MS/VFW/WVC1 (TID#4113)
[00.51.22] Only this video track will be used!
[00.51.22] Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
[00.51.22] Detected main PI#000: 00000.m2ts, Duration: [01:47:59.296], [PTS: 00:10:00.000 / 01:57:59.296]
[00.51.22] Using audio: A_DTS (ID#4352 / language: ita / delay: 0)
[00.51.22] Using audio: A_DTS (ID#4353 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[00.51.22] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4354 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[00.51.22] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4355 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[00.51.22] Using subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ita
[00.51.22] Using subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[00.51.22] Using subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: fra
[00.51.22] Using subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[00.51.22] Using subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[00.51.22] Using subtitles: ID#4613:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ita
[00.51.22] Using subtitles: ID#4614:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[00.51.22] Using subtitles: ID#4615:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ita
[00.51.22] Using subtitles: ID#4616:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ita
[00.51.22] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[01.16.20] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[01.16.20] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[01.16.20] *** Initiating video encoding:

[01.16.20] *** Original : 1920x1080
[01.16.20] *** Crop : 0
[01.16.20] *** Resize : 1920x1080 (No change)
[01.16.20] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[01.16.20] *** Sharpen : 0
[01.16.20] *** Bitrate : 16658 kbps
[01.16.20] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976)
[01.16.20] *** Level : 4
[01.16.20] *** B-frames : 3
[01.16.20] *** Ref-frames: 3
[01.16.20] *** GOP size : 24 (keyframe min. each 2 frames)
[01.16.20] *** Quality : One pass (turbo)
[01.16.20] *** SAR : 1:1
[01.16.20] *** DAR : 1920x1080
[01.16.20] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[01.16.20] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [01:47:59]
[01.16.20] *** Encoding : x264 options: --preset veryfast -B 16658 -I 24 --level 4 -i 4 -b 3 -r 3 -m 2 --mvrange 511 -A p8x8,i8x8 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 15000 --vbv-maxrate 14000 --qcomp 0.5 --threads auto --thread-input --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --b-pyramid strict --slices 0 --weightp 0 --qpfile "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\IDR-x264-marks.txt" --rc-lookahead 24 -o "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\00000.[1920x1080-23.976].264" "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-011620-uncrop-running.avs"
[04.32.41] *** Speed : 13.19 fps (elapsed: 03:16:20 - Realtime x 0.55)

[04.32.42] *** Transcoding successful!

[04.32.45] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:4).
[04.32.45] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=3
[04.32.45] Adding DTS audio track (ID#4352)
[04.32.45] Adding DTS audio track (ID#4353)
[04.32.45] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4354)
[04.32.45] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4355)
[04.32.45] Detected subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ita
[04.32.45] Detected subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[04.32.45] Detected subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: fra
[04.32.45] Detected subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[04.32.45] Detected subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[04.32.45] Detected subtitles: ID#4613:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ita
[04.32.45] Detected subtitles: ID#4614:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[04.32.45] Detected subtitles: ID#4615:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ita
[04.32.45] Detected subtitles: ID#4616:S_HDMV/PGS Language: ita
[04.32.45] Total of 5 tracks found in this file.
[04.32.45] Title is trimmed: 00:55:30 - 01:47:59[04.32.45] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[04.32.46] Media split set at 7900MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.0 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding DTS stream (track 2): Bitrate: 768Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1
Decoding DTS stream (track 3): Bitrate: 1536Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Decoding AC3 stream (track 5): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Decoding PGS stream (track 6): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 7): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 8): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 9): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 10): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 11): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 12): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 13): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
Decoding PGS stream (track 14): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
B-pyramid level 2 detected. Shift DTS to 3 frames
Processed 75492 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 28 min 25 sec
===============================================================================

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tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:02:57.509;00:04:17.632;00:12:44.388;00:17:09.111;00:21:16.525;00:26:59.659;00:34:15.427;00:38:32.476;00:46:13.061;00:50:35.449;00:55:32.619;01:01:30.143;01:07:14.195;01:14:45.939;01:28:00.608;01:34:43.301;01:37:46.025;01:40:37.238;01:43:25.489;01:47:59.055 --split-size=7900MiB --vbv-len=500 --cut-start=3330s --cut-end=6479.222s
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\00000.[1920x1080-23.976].264", insertSEI, contSPS, fps=23.976
A_DTS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4352, lang=ita, timeshift=0ms
A_DTS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
A_AC3, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4354, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
A_AC3, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4355, lang=eng, timeshift=0ms
S_HDMV/PGS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=ita
S_HDMV/PGS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4609, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4611, lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4612, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4613, lang=ita
S_HDMV/PGS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4614, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4615, lang=ita
S_HDMV/PGS, "c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-005122-5947\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4616, lang=ita
===============================================================================
[04.56.37] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[04.56.38] Using user poster for title thumbnail (vlcsnap-2011-01-04-19h57m53s209.jpg)
[04.56.39] Cannot detect file size: (c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-043245-2084\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts) (RS:0)
[04.56.39] Input M2TS file missing/corrupted (c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\20110105-043245-2084\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m*ts). Replaced with empty clip!
[04.56.41] Processing playlist...
[04.56.41] Title #1 added: "Back to the Future II - II Tempo"
[04.56.41] Verifying title...
[04.56.41] Title has: 0 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks
[04.56.41] Preparing authoring information...
[04.56.41] Creating PAL top menu.
[04.56.41] Setting pop-up menu...
[04.56.43] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [1080p]...
[04.56.43] *** Completed!
[04.56.44] Authoring menu (PAL).
[04.56.44] Creating title thumbnails for 1 titles (SLI)...
[04.56.45] Image processing for SLI menu completed!

[04.56.45] Preparing menu pages...

[04.56.45] Encoding static SLI menu page [1/1] [Static title thumbnail].
[04.56.46] Error encoding main menu page #1!
[14.47.44] Final output may be corrupted!
[14.47.44] Trying to use TITLE-LIST menu as main menu...
[14.47.44] Encoding static SLI menu page [1/1]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[14.47.44] Menu authoring completed.
[14.47.45] Setting main menu for 1 titles...
[14.47.45] Go to menu after last title.
[14.47.45] Setting menu properties...
[14.47.45] Selected TV system: [PAL]
[14.47.45] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[14.47.45] Completed.
[14.47.49] Preparing AVCHDTN database...
[14.47.52] Database and index created!
[14.47.52] Done!

[14.47.52] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[14.47.52] C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_Back to the Future II - II Tempo\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: AVCHD compatible player (DVD/BD-R disc)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. Back to the Future II - II Tempo [00:00:00]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 00:00:00
Output size : 1 MiB (0.001 GiB)

[14.47.52] C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_Back to the Future II - II Tempo folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[14.47.52] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[14.47.54] You may now remove temp folder (c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20110105\).

[14.47.54] multiAVCHD finished in 50193.235 seconds (13:56:33.235)!

[14.47.54] End of log.

MrVideo

5th January 2011, 23:26

Isn't that something like taping a show with a DVR?

Yep. I don't do that either, especially since I do not have a DVR. All of my recordings are done on a PeeCee. :D

audiohominis

6th January 2011, 00:26

Quick question, guys (hopefully)
In the Title Transcode Settings dialog, which of the two x264 presets would provide the highest possible quality, 1-pass insane or 2-pass VHQ?
Thanks

aleacido

6th January 2011, 02:45

Quick question, guys (hopefully)
In the Title Transcode Settings dialog, which of the two x264 presets would provide the highest possible quality, 1-pass insane or 2-pass VHQ?
Thanks

2 pass is always better than 1 pass. Insane is the fastest (and with much loss of quality, used for test only). If you want to use 1 pass use turbo settings). 2 pass hq needs a lot of time (12 hours or more for a 2 hours movie, depends from cpu) , but with best results.
hi
alex

v1rtu0s1ty

7th January 2011, 19:50

Is thumbnail creation for each chapter fixed now? I've already wasted 8 disc although all clips works. I've tried XMB and carousel but still didnt extract an image. I think the error says "Failed to extract thumbnail for title something ....".

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

v1rtu0s1ty

8th January 2011, 01:00

Maybe,my description is confusing. I took a shot of my latest burn. It's on a DVD DL disc. It's playing on PS3. If you see, the chapters are all black.

Complete log is here.
http://codepad.org/c9s9CSWe
http://pastebin.com/iGKtFgem

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6268/multiavchd.jpg

Thanks!!!!

v1rtu0s1ty

8th January 2011, 07:47

Hopefully this Properties window will tell what my issue is. I found screenshots from other people and their's have a video on the left side. Mine is just this blue screen. Also, when I click on the blue screen, mplayer pops-up with nothing on it. After like 5 seconds, it goes away.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7864/multiavchd.png

Hopefully someone who has been thru to this kind of issue can shed some miracles. I've been troubleshooting it for more than 2 days now. :(

BZeeme

8th January 2011, 11:14

Download and run Dean's multiTEST:
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiTEST/

Do you have multiAVCHD's three helper apps installed and configured. See multiAVCHD's download page:
http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17

Also on that page read the items about setting up the playback chain.

v1rtu0s1ty

8th January 2011, 18:28

BZeeme,

That helped a lot!!! When I conducted the test, only one PASSED, the Avisynth. I installed all the reuqired applications, all 3 PASSED but VC-1 is still failing. I followed all Dean's screenshot regarding ffdshow installation and retested, the VC-1 test failed. I am not sure what I'm missing. I re-installed ffdshow 3 times but still failed on the test. Any ideas? Oh, I also did the Windows 7 tweaker just in case you ask.

v1rtu0s1ty

8th January 2011, 20:36

All PASSED now!!! :)

I had to rerun the tweaker and selected ffdshow instead of Windoze.

daberti

8th January 2011, 21:44

@Deank (mainly) and fellow users of MultiAvchd.

I've recently switched my PC. Now I've a W7-64 and I'm already using x264_64 from within MultiAvchd happily.
Nonetheless I'm asking how to complete (as far as possible) the 64 transition as far as ffdshow and avisynth are concerned as well.
There is a CLSID ffdshow 64 build that I've downloaded already, yet I'm reluctant to install it as it would install 64 bit plugins for avisynth which is still 32bit.

Another problem I've experienced is that it takes an era to open either Properties or Transcode windows.

Last but not least, no more ffdshow icons appear on the icon bar near the clock.

Thanks in advance

v1rtu0s1ty

8th January 2011, 22:40

old-hack

9th January 2011, 06:58

Another question, if you look at my picture above, how do I change the big text AVCHD on top of the thumbnails? I looked at all the tabs in multiAVCHD but I couldn't find any string which says AVCHD.

Thanks!

I have the same question as v1rtu0s1ty above.

In addition, I've discovered that if you create chapters that require more than one page, the chapters on the second page actually recycle to point to the beginning chapters of the movie. For example, the first twelve chapters are on page 1 of the chapters menu. Those correctly start their respective chapter. Chapters thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen on the second page actually select and start chapters 1, 2, 3, and 4 of the movie.

I've run the multiTest and everything is in order. I am using the most current "multiAVCHD.dat".

Has no one else experienced this?

Thanks.

old-hack

9th January 2011, 09:45

I have the same question as v1rtu0s1ty above.

In addition, I've discovered that if you create chapters that require more than one page, the chapters on the second page actually recycle to point to the beginning chapters of the movie. For example, the first twelve chapters are on page 1 of the chapters menu. Those correctly start their respective chapter. Chapters thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen on the second page actually select and start chapters 1, 2, 3, and 4 of the movie.

I've run the multiTest and everything is in order. I am using the most current "multiAVCHD.dat".

Has no one else experienced this?

Thanks.

Disregard. Apparently my software player, in this case TMT 5, wasn't reading the chapter selections correctly. If I used TMT 3, it did.

greekgreek

9th January 2011, 10:27

Hi
I try to burn AVCHD discs for HD DVD TOSHIBA EP30.
I make folders(HVDVD_TS, VIDEO_TS) with multiAVCHD, but I can not burn the disc correctly.
For AVCHD discs for BluRay player uses, the ImgBurn without problems.
For AVCHD discs for TOSHIBA EP30,i have a problem with ImgBurn.

BZeeme

9th January 2011, 12:20

Another question, if you look at my picture above, how do I change the big text AVCHD on top of the thumbnails? I looked at all the tabs in multiAVCHD but I couldn't find any string which says AVCHD.

Thanks!

I don't know if you can get rid of it directly. During testing, I got around it by loading an .ini file for a compilation with a XMB style menu, changing the type of menu page from custom to default, and then changing the menu style to Carousel. I compared the two .ini files but I couldn't tell what line controls the background.

What you could do is replace the "C:\multiAVCHD\templates\res\Carousel\CM_back.png" (assuming you installed multiAVCHD to the root of the C drive). Just use a picture of your choice with the same size (1920X1080X16M) and form (.png)

v1rtu0s1ty

10th January 2011, 01:25

I don't know if you can get rid of it directly. During testing, I got around it by loading an .ini file for a compilation with a XMB style menu, changing the type of menu page from custom to default, and then changing the menu style to Carousel. I compared the two .ini files but I couldn't tell what line controls the background.

What you could do is replace the "C:\multiAVCHD\templates\res\Carousel\CM_back.png" (assuming you installed multiAVCHD to the root of the C drive). Just use a picture of your choice with the same size (1920X1080X16M) and form (.png)

Ah, I haven't explored the directory yet. I assumed it was a text that can be modified on the fly. Thanks again! :)

sreemv

10th January 2011, 07:13

I have a couple of movies that I backed up in PS3 compatible AVCHD but unable to play on PS3 - several other titles processed/backed up using multiAVCHD work fine - is there a way to debug why these 2 titles fail to play? PS3 does appear to recognize the AVCHD title but once its loaded, the screen flickers - goes black and then back to PS3 menu.

Any advice/suggestions appreciated!

jfcarbel

10th January 2011, 10:38

I have successfully used multiAVCHD to shrink many BluRay titles while still keeping the menus. When I attempted to cut the end credits since they are almost 10 minutes long.

I decided this after having already processing MultiAVCHD on the BD folders, so on my second run to cut the end credits, I was using the output of multiAVCHD.

I entered the main stream movie properties and entered 650 seconds in cut end field since credits run for 10 minutes and 54 seconds and I subtract 4 seconds for a safe buffer. Hit okay and then Start and you can see in logs below that it fails.

UPDATE: Going to go back to original rip and just try a cut of end credits and nothing else and will report back.

UPDATE2: It worked when I started with original, however the tooltip for the end cut field is incorrect. It says "seconds from end of movie", but what it really wants is the total seconds from start of movie to where you want end cut to begin. So this could be worded better. Maybe just "movie time in seconds for where you want end cut to begin" or something like that. I am sure someone here can come up with better wording.

ronnylov

11th January 2011, 09:17

I wonder if multiAVCHD supports "fake interlaced" 720P25?
I guess multiAVCHD may be using tsmuxer internally?
http://sites.google.com/site/x264bluray/issues-with-certain-players

"TSmuxer does not support any of the --pulldown options."

And this is a recommended commandlines for x264 720P25:
x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --weightp 1 --bframes 3 --nal-hrd vbr --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --b-pyramid strict --slices 4 --ref 6 --aud --pulldown double --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -o out.264 input.file

x264 --bitrate XXXXX --preset veryslow --tune film --weightp 1 --bframes 3 --nal-hrd vbr --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --level 4.1 --keyint 25 --b-pyramid strict --slices 4 --ref 6 --pulldown double --aud --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -o out.264 input.file

So the conclusion is I can not use the above commandlines with AVCHD because of --pulldown double?

v1rtu0s1ty

13th January 2011, 06:42

ronnylov,

I was under the impression that multiavchd doesn't modify the files we feed it. It keeps all the settings(fps, bitrate, resolution). So am I right that multiavchd doesn't reencode our files, it just authors it?

ronnylov

13th January 2011, 10:07

I think multiavchd can reencode the video (transcode) if you tell it to do it, or leave the original untouched if you want. I encode my own videos separately (from videocamera or HDTV captures) and afterwards I want to author with MultiAVCHD. But there should be underlaying tools that actually do the multiplexing to m2ts and I suspect it may be using TsMuxeR and if that is the case there is a known problem (or was, it may have been fixed, I do not know). Maybe I should have asked the question in the tsMuxeR thread...

Adub

13th January 2011, 19:58

v1rtu0s1ty

13th January 2011, 23:15

@v1rtu0s1ty

No, you are wrong. Sort of. multiAVCHD only compresses files when the native files are to large for the desired output format. Ex: When compressing a Blu-ray to AVCHD (after which the program is named), you absolutely have to compress the video, as there is no other way to fit 25GB of files onto a 4.3GB disk.

What I'll be mentioning below is not from bluray source but from my camcorder's native file.

I haven't looked at the truncated files that multiAVCHD created. The other day, I placed 3 files. When it completed the avchd directory, I noticed it created more files under STREAM directory. However, I didn't calculate the total size of all files so I can compare it with my original file.

Later, I'm going to "ffmpeg -i" each file so I can compare the header to my original native file.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks!

jediknight

18th January 2011, 08:32

hi guys,

can i delete audio track with this program and also keeping meun ? is it possible ? for downgrade to 25 GB :P

My aim is; removing unwanted audio tracks on blu-ray and keep other things original (menus,extras etc...)

is it possible or not ?

Thanks, have a nice day guys.

Murkurial

18th January 2011, 22:48

I'm wondering if someone can answer a quick question that I have about multiAVCHD:

I'm trying to add background music to a menu that's comprised of just a static image. I ran multiAVCHD and created the files and I'm wondering if when I preview the film in PowerDVD 10, if the music is supposed to play in the menu as well? I've created a menu before with no music and it shows up fine. This time though is the first time that I'm trying and I've simply chosed the "Background audio" field and pointed it to my .wav file. I still see the static image of the menu, but nothing plays. I don't really want to burn this to a DL DVD and find that it doesn't work at all so I'm wondering if this is just a quirk with the program or if I'm doing something wrong for this to be happening.

I've also noticed that the music doesn't play when you preview the menu within multiAVCHD even if I choose the "Actual preview of menu page" option.

MrVideo

19th January 2011, 02:24

can i delete audio track with this program and also keeping meun ? is it possible ? for downgrade to 25 GB :P

I don't know if you can, or can't. What you need to think about is how much you will be removing by eliminating some audio files. Audio is a small fraction of the content, compared to video. If the original BD is 40 GB, for example, there is no way you are going to be able to remove more than 15 GB of just audio alone and get the size down so that it will fit on a 25 GB disc.

Also, by leaving menus intact, wht do you think will happen if you select an audio track via a menu, only to have the player discover that it isn't there. Will the player crash?

Food for thought.

BZeeme

19th January 2011, 11:23

jidelite

20th January 2011, 17:59

BZeeme

21st January 2011, 11:52

I found through testing that if "AVCHD (strict)" mode is selected there is no menu background audio. I use "Blu-ray Disc" mode or sometimes "AVCHD Disc" mode. These modes do allow menu background audio.

Murkurial

21st January 2011, 20:17

jangai

22nd January 2011, 08:44

Hi all !
Apologies if already covered ...
With entries in H264/MKV container and pointing the exact time code of the desired image as a poster, some are well preserved and others are left with images unrelated (distant time code).

Is there any trick to get every time the desired image as poster (with the mode of XMB) ?

Thank you in advance

thunderclap

22nd January 2011, 20:34

I have one real quick question regarding format. What is the best format to build AVCHD's with? Right now I'm exporting my footage from my NLE as h.264 MP4 files, but it appears multiAVCHD converts this to MKV before transcoding. To save an extra step should I just export my videos to MKV?

mastom

26th January 2011, 18:58

Hi,

I have spent a lot of time trying to make a bd menu in multiAVCHD 4.1. All the time bd seems to be ok, it is ok for software player but in Denon DBP-2010 it writes MENU on display and that's all. It's frozen. I have tried a lot of settings but all the time with the same result. If there is no menu it plays ok.

But when I try the version 3.0 menu works fine.

Do you have any ideas how to solve this problem?

:thanks:

Btw, the program is the best I have tried.

Thomas

DMagic1

29th January 2011, 06:46

Is there anyway to have it not transcode the intro/welcome video if its already compliant?

SuperFist

5th February 2011, 01:10

I have a question for all of you Blu-ray burning/authoring afficionados. Does anyone know of a guide or know how to compile a Blu-ray from a series of several shows unto a single-layer BD-R with just the episodes and HD audio without compression?

For example, the Firefly series with 4 shows on one disc: I want to create it to where I put 2 shows on a 25GB disc without compressing them with just the audio and the show itself, no extras. I looked at the guides for MultiAVCHD but no one seems to be trying to do exactly that. They seem to need to retranscode the audio or video which I don't need to do. In other words, I can't find a clear cut way to do this or a guide that shows me specifically how. The reason I need to do this is a show like this looks HORRIBLE when it's shrunk to fit on a single layer BD-R due to it being 53% compression.

Also, how do I use Cut Start and Cut End to reauthor start and end times of the BD?

setarip_old

5th February 2011, 02:57

@SuperFist

Hi! The reason I need to do this is a show like this looks HORRIBLE when it's shrunk to fit on a single layer BD-R due to it being 53% compression.

Based on your statement, it's apparent that you've not yet used BD-Rebuilder ;>}

SuperFist

5th February 2011, 09:29

@SuperFist

Hi!

Based on your statement, it's apparent that you've not yet used BD-Rebuilder ;>}

So you're claiming BD-Rebuilder does a better job at compressing blu-ray movies than MultiAVCHD and DVDFab?

ricoman

5th February 2011, 14:52

So you're claiming BD-Rebuilder does a better job at compressing blu-ray movies than MultiAVCHD and DVDFab?

I've used all three (and sadly paid for DVDFabHD bluray copy) and to me, BDRebuilder is way better than DVDFab. DVDFab over-compressed it and the PQ was soft, not sharp like you expect from bluray. MultiAVCHD is super for BD to DVD, the PQ on the DVD seems better than a regular DVD and plays on regular players. I never tried it for straight bluray to bluray conversion. Anyway, my point is that I highly recommend BDRebuilder and MultiAVCHD, but don't waste your time and especially money on DVDFAB.

Music Fan

5th February 2011, 15:04

BD-Rebuilder and MultiAVCHD use the same encoder, x264, so the result should be the same (if same settings used).

Capsbackup

5th February 2011, 16:04

@SuperFist;
You can use multiAVCHD, without reencoding the video and audio, to put two episodes from the same disc on to one BD-R, if their original size fits on the BD-R. You can even keep the original menu too. If you do not want the original menu, you can create your own menu for the two episodes only.
If you want two episodes from two different original discs, you will have to make your own custom menu. ( unless you dont care if one episode doesn't match the original menu. ):cool:

worknstiff

5th February 2011, 17:53

I use Clown_BD to convert each episode of The Universe to a BD folder. I then use MultiAVCHD to load up each episode and create a simple menu to select each title. I use a 50,000 MB output limit to get it to not split or recode the video and turn off eac3to to keep the audio original. When finished it gives me a simple static menu (that will play in any bluray player or software player) and a blurary folder thats around 40 Gigs. I then load this output into BD_Rebuider and compress (default quality 2 pass) to fit a BD9 (DVD+R DL) and end up with a high quality video that is indistinquishable from the original (even on my 65" panasonic). It is time consuming but works really well, MultiAVCHD & BD_Rebuilder are both a work of art, it is amazing the output you can get. Right now there is not even a paid solution that can touch either of these programs for quality. When I think of all the programming effort and troubleshooting that went into each of them it makes my head spin. Also it must be said that the final product is all due to the highly efficient x264 codec. My thanks to deank & jdobbs for all the hard work that I spend so much of my time using. While I am at it, where is Dean? Has he gone on vacation or is he just working on something new?

setarip_old

5th February 2011, 19:21

@SuperFist So you're claiming BD-Rebuilder does a better job at compressing blu-ray movies than MultiAVCHD and DVDFab?Yes...

jediknight

5th February 2011, 20:12

i found a bug i think or something like that. I installed fresh windows and after that installed these are ; ffdshow + ac3filter + cyberlink powerdvd10 + arcsoft totalmedia 5 + bsplayer. then i installed MultiAVCHD,

but here is the error when im trying to open program ;

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1508/errorieh.jpg

Dean my friend can you help me :(. ?

thanks bro,

worknstiff

5th February 2011, 20:52

Don't kinow about the message, can't read whatever lang. When I installed multiAVCHD 4.1 from the first page, the first thing it checks is for updates. It updated the multiAVCHD.dat to the latest 760 and I installed it to the program folder. It restarted and then I didn't have the menu options, it was greyed out. I finally uninstalled and deleted the multiAVCHD folder and did a complete reinstall and now it works fine. You can goto the first page and click on the "Download links for all tools" and then download the multiTEST.exe and see if it finds all the stuff set up correctly. If you are running windows7 there is also a codec Tweaker. hope this helps

MajiNPic

9th February 2011, 16:59

Hi

First, I'm still a newbie and my English is bad ^^

And here's my problem...
When I used multiAVCHD to add subtitles to Bluray Disc, everything seemed to work fine.
But using Media Info, I found that the m2ts file had different "maximum overall bit rate" from the original one.
Will this be a problem playing on standalone BD player? And how could I fix this?

Thanks in advance.

Here are the scripts from Media Info...

Original m2ts
General
ID : 0
Complete name : F:\BDMV1\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 40.0 GiB
Duration : 2h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 35.4 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 29.4 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.591
Stream size : 33.2 GiB (83%)

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 4 608 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 5.21 GiB (13%)

Subbed m2ts
General
ID : 1
Complete name : F:\BDMV2\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 40.1 GiB
Duration : 2h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 29.4 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.592
Stream size : 33.3 GiB (83%)
Language : English

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 4 608 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 5.21 GiB (13%)
Language : Japanese

Text
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 7s 674ms
Language : English

Music Fan

9th February 2011, 17:11

It looks like a wrong header information, i got this several times on mpeg-2 files.
I'm nearly sure that it won't be a problem for your player : if he can play the original file, he will also play the subbed m2ts detecting the real bitrate.

thghgv

13th February 2011, 22:56

Adub

16th February 2011, 08:33

Here's what Im looking for...

An app to be able to load, off HDD, the full backup of a BD and then present that BD structure in a GRAPHICAL fashion (not lists of numbers, radio buttons, and check boxes) for editing. Editing, meaning being able to GRAPHICALLY replace modify or delete elements of the EXISTING menu structure NOT requiring having to build a totally new menu system from template or scratch.
Once editing is completed, be able to render just those changes, WITHOUT re-encoding all the program audio and video assets, back to HDD.

Like DVDremake does for DVD. can this app do this ??

No. And I don't think anything currently exists that is close to that, unless it costs several thousand dollars. And why don't you try using the interface before posting a question like this next time.

Anyways, ran into some issues with TSMuxer crashing when running a test for one of my readers. Specifically, TSMuxer hung while I was away from home and then displayed a "Close this hung program" window.

I just managed to catch a glimpse of the commandline window, and it said something about the NAL unit being to large in the MKV, and that it was truncating.

Here is the log:
http://pastebin.com/0CLJKRD5

Around line 243 is where I clicked OK on the "Close program" window.

thghgv

16th February 2011, 21:07

No. And I don't think anything currently exists that is close to that, unless it costs several thousand dollars. And why don't you try using the interface before posting a question like this next time.

Well, that's just it. I have attempted to use it but it makes little sense at this point. Remake is intuitive enough to be used successfully without any outside help (hence my question). I'll take your word that it works. Is there a proper step-by-step doc out there some where that outlines a typical load/find/replace/re-render process with this app?? So far I have just come up with snippets here and there that only hint at this or that but nothing concrete.

setarip_old

16th February 2011, 22:14

@thghgv Is there a proper step-by-step doc out there some where that outlines a typical load/find/replace/re-render process with this app??

It's as simple as going to Post #1 of this thread and clicking on "Guide" ;>}

johnnytav

20th February 2011, 04:24

Hi Dean

Having a problem with Menu out of sync with Samsung bd player
set at 24 fps. When I unselect it and play the dvd the menu is ok.
Also after about 30 second the video slows down (like slow motion)
and losses the sound. I am in testing mode, I just bought a JVC HM690.
btw software from JVC also has menu problem with 24 fps but
not the slow down and no sound problem.
Any ideas?

JohnnyJT

latet

20th February 2011, 21:16

Hello,

Does multiAVCHD display a warning when there are high (too high) bitrate peaks in the imported video? Does it analyze the bitrate at all?

Thanks,

Latet

MrVideo

28th February 2011, 13:24

An app to be able to load, off HDD, the full backup of a BD and then present that BD structure in a GRAPHICAL fashion (not lists of numbers, radio buttons, and check boxes) for editing.

A BD structure is many times more complicated than a DVD, especially if BD-J is involved. Reverse engineering the java programs, while technically possible, is more difficult to graphically chart without the source and the program that authored the disc.

As pointed out you will need a professional BD authoring package to even start to figure what is going on in a BD disc.

MrVideo

28th February 2011, 13:30

OK, anyone know where Dean has vanished to?

setarip_old

28th February 2011, 18:29

Real world requirements...

thghgv

1st March 2011, 20:42

Capsbackup

2nd March 2011, 04:01

attempting to work with the properties page in BD-Reauthor mode and when attempting to do ANYTHING in that window it takes 30sec to a minute to recover after making a video viewer adjustment or simply clicking on the next resource listing. This app is running on a 2.8 ghz QUAD-CORE 32 bit XP system. Is this proper sort of operation for this app running under such a system????

Try opening your ffdshow DXVA Video Decoder Configuration and select " Don't Use ffdshow In ".
Unselect "Use ffdshow only in".
I remember this having to do with AVSInfo, found in the tools folder of multiAVCHD. It is not recommended, but if the aforementioned does not work, you could try renaming AVSInfo to AVSInfo.hold, and see if that works.

thghgv

2nd March 2011, 20:26

Try opening your ffdshow DXVA Video Decoder Configuration and select " Don't Use ffdshow In ".
Unselect "Use ffdshow only in".

Yes that works much better now. thanks.

One other thing though.. I'm noticing that the properties pages don't seem to want to display STILL image frames of any duration. Is that a bug or maybe a setting change? I looked but didn't find any setting(s) that were pertinent...

Capsbackup

3rd March 2011, 02:03

Yes that works much better now. thanks.

One other thing though.. I'm noticing that the properties pages don't seem to want to display STILL image frames of any duration. Is that a bug or maybe a setting change? I looked but didn't find any setting(s) that were pertinent...

Mine displays the images for video titles just fine, but some still images do not display, especially the warnings I want to blank! :p
You can try and click in the preview window, which will bring up Mplayer to play the clip, sometimes this works but often not. :(
I usually look at the top of the preview window for the associated .m2ts file being displayed, then try to open that file with Windows Media Player or Media Player Classic to view the contents of this .m2ts for blanking or keeping. But this is a very time consuming method.
I seem to remember when you install Haali there is an option to display a couple different program streams that are not selected by default, so you could try a reinstall of haali and check for those options during the install. :)

Cela

5th March 2011, 19:31

OK, anyone know where Dean has vanished to?...Real world requirements...Yes, it's a pity! Dean is approaching, but still some months off, the approx. 1 year update cycle of leading payware (Adobe, Cyberlink, Nero, VideoRedo, etc.) But his fine application is far more versatile and practically freeware (donationware).

As I mentioned sometime ago elsewhere *), instead of donationware, I would be ready to pay the yearly toll that the aforementioned payware vendors request the user to pay for the year n+1 release of their consumer products with those shiny marketing postnames (Pro, Ultimate, Platinum, Elements,...) and with mostly only minor to no real improvements.

*) My my posting from 27 Aug 2009, 15:18 in http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=265&start=27 as answer to Dean's posting from 27 Aug 2009, 14:45
in http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=265&start=26 ... with MANY, MANY more updates, upgrades, ....

setarip_old

5th March 2011, 22:15

@Cela

Hi! instead of donationware, I would be ready to pay the yearly toll... So, just send 'deank" a donation in the amount you deem would be an appropriate "toll" ;>}

BZeeme

6th March 2011, 12:01

multiAVCHD is an exceptional product that I find is great for sharing home movies on Blu-rays and for backing up BDs with multiple episodes. I've been hoping Dean would return to do bug fixes and get multiAVCHD and the documentation polished up - even if he never adds a new feature. But as weeks turn into months, it seems that what we have now is it. Even the number of posts in this thread and on his forum are dwindling as people lose interest.

Thanks Dean. Your work is appreciated - even if the donations were few and far between.

latet

6th March 2011, 20:05

Thanks Dean. Your work is appreciated - even if the donations were few and far between.

Is there any alternative to multiAVCHD?

I've tested Sony DVD Architect Pro 5.0 but it crashes on importing some (not all) .m2ts files (just like Sony Vegas pro). This is serious problem for me. And also - it can't import .mkv files. Two good reasons not to like it.

On the other hand - I find multiAVCHD unstable. It often crashes (x264.exe crash) generating animated title menu icons. It need 100 minor improvements but it is still the best I know...

setarip_old

6th March 2011, 20:56

@latet

Hi! On the other hand - I find multiAVCHD unstable.Wow, talk about (negative) exaggeration!
I have used and tested many (not all) aspects of multiAVCHD since its inception and have found most of the finalized functions to be rock solid - including the oddball functions that "deank" has surprised users with, such as conversion to HD-DVD, 3D conversion, conversion to standard DVD, player specific Blu-ray "packages", cropping and uncropping, ad infinitum.

Although there may be one or two legitimately unstable functions (I haven't tried all of the literally dozens of multiAVCHD functions), most postings of problems in this thread, as well as those at the forum maintained by "deank" at his home site, have proved to be simple misinterpretations of how to properly use the functions.

When you consider just how complex multiAVCHD is and how it evolved, other than (unrealistic) a complete overhaul of its presentation (perhaps separate "pages" of an onscreen "book" for each function), I believe that the only thing lacking for multiAVCHD is up-to-date, comprehensive documentation...

JoeH

7th March 2011, 07:55

MultiAVCHD is very stable as long as you respect some of its basic rules... for example, never start a job, cancel it, and then switch to another job without closing MultiAVCHD and opening it up again. One session, one job. (I'm not inventing it - Dean says so).

elmarikon

8th March 2011, 21:07

Hi guys!

I have a little issue with multiavchd.
No BluRay player will allow me to jump to the next title in my play list. Of cause I tried the 'auto chapter at end of title' option.
I also did try different players (Sony/Phillips) and different versions of multiAVChd (3.0/4.0). No success:-(
Is there a solution?

All the best!

Cela

8th March 2011, 22:57

Hi! So, just send 'deank" a donation in the amount you deem would be an appropriate "toll" ;>} Yes, sure, I will, if evereybody else who wants a new version does. For example, like every single Nero10 user will do who will want to upgrade to Nero11.

Back in August 2009 I addressed the generally adopted scheme (beyond the individual donation scheme) to keep software developments running, that _all_ users of the benefits of a newly released version should add their share, pay the toll, to ensure continuous support and development, and not only a little minority of donators.

Aren't we all experiencing right now what we get, when we rely on that _others_ will generously donate?

I am not Bill Gates, even if I wanted, as a single person, I would never be able to pay the fair price for what Dean has created!

Dean, thanks for your generous gift to us all!

setarip_old

9th March 2011, 05:21

@Cela

I can honestly say that I have no idea why this seems so significant to you.

1) Actually, it sounds to me that you're essentially trying to make "deank" a slave to those who, under your scenario, would be purchasers of his software.

2) Is there anyone amongst us who knows, WITH CERTAINTY, what the multiple tax, licensing, and accounting ramifications would be?

I'm sure that if "deank" deems it appropriate, he'll respond to your suggestion...

Cela

9th March 2011, 21:42

What really is significant to me is that Dean does not stop support and development of his outstanding, incomparable, unique multiAVCHD and that I am ready to add my share to help overcome the "Real world requirements..." (your words), which may prevent this since last September. What furthermore may be significant is that not a single person or a small minority of donators but, more probably, only the efforts of a large group of supporters, call them customers, could have a fair chance to make a difference.

Is there any alternative to multiAVCHD?

I've tested Sony DVD Architect Pro 5.0 but it crashes on importing some (not all) .m2ts files (just like Sony Vegas pro). This is serious problem for me. And also - it can't import .mkv files. Two good reasons not to like it.
...I too cannot see any alternative to multiAVCHD out there. Certainly not in the price range or NeroVision, PowerDirector, Premiere Elements, Magix Video deluxe, etc. None of these accepts an equal variety of input media, none offers the variety of output options, allows user control to specific output file formats, bit rate settings, etc, offers comparable chapters, stream replacement, menu features, etc. Though some advertise their Smart Render abilities, in all my tests, each one of them insisted in heavy re-encoding of the same unchanged footage, even for small menu changes - instances where multiAVCHD never would re-encode! And I could not observe any real progress concerning the superfluous re-encoding orgy for years! So, there is NO adequate alternative, neither ready for use nor in sight!

Maybe my suggested product approach will turn out to be just as unsuccessful as the donation approach. Hope you find a better one. What will really count is that Dean will return at least part of his focus back to further support and development of multiAVCHD!

That's my final five cents...

setarip_old

9th March 2011, 22:37

@Cela

And for my final comment regarding this topic, I would reiterate:

I'm sure that if "deank" deems it appropriate, he'll respond to your suggestion...

Ghitulescu

10th March 2011, 11:12

I too cannot see any alternative to multiAVCHD out there. Certainly not in the price range or NeroVision, PowerDirector, Premiere Elements, Magix Video deluxe, etc. None of these accepts an equal variety of input media, none offers the variety of output options, allows user control to specific output file formats, bit rate settings, etc, offers comparable chapters, stream replacement, menu features, etc. Though some advertise their Smart Render abilities, in all my tests, each one of them insisted in heavy re-encoding of the same unchanged footage, even for small menu changes - instances where multiAVCHD never would re-encode! And I could not observe any real progress concerning the superfluous re-encoding orgy for years! So, there is NO adequate alternative, neither ready for use nor in sight!

Also in your quoted paragraph, there's one single issue: MKV.

I'm afraid all of you simply forget that MKV is not supported by the industry, and therefore there's not a single legal source for it. Supporting MKV input means for the software company an indirect support for stealing content and may be sued for this. So one cannot really compare the two things. Not that I have something against MultiAVCHD, au contraire! but I want to clear some "misunderstandings".

Cela

10th March 2011, 18:18

setarip_old

10th March 2011, 19:24

@Ghitulescu I'm afraid all of you simply forget that MKV is not supported by the industry, and therefore there's not a single legal source for it. Supporting MKV input means for the software company an indirect support for stealing content and may be sued for this.Perhaps you're confused, or you're just blowing smoke up "Cela's" skirts.

Unless something has significantly changed recently, the .MKV container format is and always has been OPEN SOURCE, available for all to use.

The following is a quote from WikiPedia:
The Matroska Multimedia Container is an open standard free container format, a file format that can hold an unlimited number of video, audio, picture or subtitle tracks inside a single file.[1] It is intended to serve as a universal format for storing common multimedia content, like movies or TV shows. Matroska is similar in concept to other containers like AVI, MP4 or ASF, but is entirely open in specification, with implementations consisting mostly of open source software. Matroska file types are .MKV for video (with subtitles and audio), .MKA for audio-only files and .MKS for subtitles only.

latet

10th March 2011, 20:00

I do not use MKV. Please exclude the unintented implicit inclusion of MKV from my statement. The re-encoding orgy of the mentioned consumer level applications holds for my personal m2ts camcorder footage *) for which no one else than myself holds the copyright!
*) shot with my simple Sony AVCHD camcorder

But I do use MKV. For my personal camcorder footage *) for which no one else than myself holds the copyright! I keep my footage in MKV for high convince (all the hardware I have can play it: PC, TV, hardware mediaplayer). This is not true that it has nothing to do with Blu-ray. Even preparing MKV's I do care about BD compliance of the video and audio streams in order for faster and easier muxing (without re-encoding) to .m2ts and authoring to BD, whenever the need appears. And the other way to - I don't want anything (like frame doubling) in my BD .m2ts files that won't be compatible with MKV if I (or someone else) decides to convert my own home-made BD disks into MKV files.

*) shot with my simple Sony AVCHD camera

deank

12th March 2011, 16:22

Guys,

I need someone with PS3 (or another type of player) and a 3D setup (TV) to check something. I managed to convert a small 8sec sample from Panasonc 3D Blu-ray demo disc from 1920x1080@23.976 to the sizzled 3D format, which Playstation 3 (and other players, which support single-file-3d-content) plays in 3d.

Download the file, put it on a USB stick and give it a try on your PS3 - just play the file from XMB VIDEO tab. Your PS3 should recognize the packed 3d and prompt you... or try to play it in your player.

Source: 1920x1080@23.976fps AVC (left + right) + DTS audio
Result: 1280x720@59.94fps AVC (frame packed left+right) + AC3 audio

Panasonic3D-[sizzle-test-2].m2ts (5.33 MB)
Download link: http://www.multiupload.com/DCIN1RIRKS

If such approach works, it is really easy to create single files for 3d playback from 3d blu-ray discs.

An example of the format is the official sony trailer (MP4): http://poseidon.dl.playstation.net/cdn/UP9000/NPUL00108_00/FREE_CONTENT6h5UXVMKmPkL0JiN7yIY/E320103DSizzle_Trailer-3D720.MP4?product=0084&country=us

Dean

mariner

12th March 2011, 17:42

Greetings Dean. Welcome back.

Congratulations, once again, for being the first to successfully create PS3 compatible 3D frame sequential video.

There is another single file 3D format that you may wish to explore: MVC in mp4 container. See this thread for more details.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=159339

Best regards.

xvibe

13th March 2011, 12:31

Hi deank, I've tested both files but only the file provided by sony worked. Not tested the file that mariner indicated....
When I start playing the sony file the PS3 ask me if I wan't to see it in 3D but the file that you made just plays as a normal 2d file. Anyway it's not so normal because you see that there are two images at the same time but played as if it's a normal 2d movie.
My setup is 3DTV Sony Bravia HX-800, AV receiver Yamaha RX-V767 with HDMI 1.4 and a PS3. The PS3 is connected to the TV thru the AV receiver using the HDMI connections.
Anyway you should have an option on multiAVCHD to have the subtitles corrected for 3D SBS movies like the this app do:
http://84.27.10.123/3DSubtitler/

deank

13th March 2011, 12:34

It seems the PS3 supports the format only when multiplexed in MP4 container with some specific atoms... I have no info on the subject atm.

I'll appreciate if anyone can post a sample structure recorded with AVCHD 3D capable camcoder. Video usually is SBS with some black bounding boxes, but I'm interested in the file structure, which makes the player switch to 3D (and we're talking about AVCHD, not Blu-ray 3D).

xvibe

13th March 2011, 14:46

Well the file pointed by mariner gives me a corrupted data on the PS3....

SuperFist

13th March 2011, 14:53

@SuperFist Yes...
Thank you and the others who took the time out of your busy days to respond to my inquiries. I have had BD Rebuilder for a few months as I downloaded it in an attempt to procure all the blu-ray authoring programs I could but interestingly enough, I never tried it for some reason. I am, however, giving it a whirl now and will be pitting it against the results of DVDFab and MultiAVCHD in order to satisfy my own curiosity.

alimao

13th March 2011, 15:32

deank

15th March 2011, 08:39

So no one with Panasonic HDC-SDT750K 3D capable AVCHD camcoder to post a small sample of the whole structure?

I may also add half-SBS to the stereo output formats - it seems that most 3D equipment supports it.

Btw the panasonic's cam (HDC-SDT750K) SBS interlaced 1920x1080 can be easily converted to any other stereo format easily using avisynth (for example to half SBS 1920x1080@23.976):

b=directshowsource("D:\Panasonic3D-SBS.MTS").AssumeFrameBased.bob(height=1080).SeparateFields.weave

allL=Crop(b, 66,50,-1026,-50)
allR=Crop(b, 1026,50,-66,-50)

stackhorizontal(allL,allR).selectevery(2,0).assumeframebased.changefps(24000,1001).lanczosresize(1920,1080)