multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[deank]

You were both right. My tests were with imported compilation (i.e. .MPL files for titles) and not 'new' files. It is okay now and the preview is proper when using files, too.

[claymic]

Hi Dean
My WDTV will arrive tomorrow and i will test with blu-ray. I search for a guide post here for like works with blu, but i dont find. Can you tell me where it is ?
Thanks man.
Clayton

[BZeeme]

The SETUP page of the last (11th) title doesn't work here for no apparent reason. Would you please let me know how yours came up?

I'm putting the 24 episodes of "Lost Season 1" on 2 or 3 BD-R's. With 12 episodes on one, the SETUP pages of titles 11 and 12 do not work (no navigation graphics). (Build 743 31/03/2010). I'm waiting awhile before retrying - takes 9 1/2 hours plus burning time.

Added: With 8 episodes per disc, SETUP on the 8th title does work.

[deank]

It happened to me yesterday, too... Strange it wasn't reported earlier...

There is a calculation error for the subpath IDs for the IGS for titles>10 (decimal to hex conversion).

Update to 744 I fixed it. If you don't want to redo your compilation - send me 00255.mpls - it needs one byte change and will be fixed.

Dean

[deank]

Compilation summary:
Format: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
1. From Pole To Pole [00:51:10]
2. Mountains [00:49:56]
3. Fresh Water [00:51:20]
4. Caves [00:50:50]
5. Deserts [00:50:52]
6. Ice Worlds [00:51:10]
7. Great Plains [00:51:00]
8. Jungles [00:51:06]
9. Shallow Seas [00:51:13]
10. Seasonal Forests [00:51:12]
11. Ocean Deep [00:51:08]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 09:21:01
Output size : 21313 MiB (20.813 GiB)

[10:04:30] multiAVCHD finished in 2114.719 seconds (00:35:14.719)!

Not bad for a motion menu with motion title thumbnails!

I just saw that... My laptop needs twice as much :( 1hr and 16 mins actually for the same task.

[flaviometal]

It doesn't change the fact that Sony tries to cripple Playstation3 with this sh*tty 3.21 update. I guess I'll buy one of those PS3 lite consoles and keep my 1st gen full-featured PS3 for the real things.

So, you must try this:

http://www.consolespot.net/1914-Solution-Bypass-Upgrading-to-Firmware-321-Update.html

[deank]

Hah... I was just working on a quick CLI proxy for my PS3 to tweak the FW report to sony :) Thanks anyway!

[Capsbackup]

deank, I can confirm your latest update does honor the start time for the motion-menu title thumbnails for my projects too. :)
Since I have a few projects working right now, I notice if I "load project" from a saved one, the previous projects settings are still kept as multiAVCHD's start-up settings.
Ex: start up multiAVCHD, add video, add motion menu video, add motion menu audio, set start time for motion thumbnail, compile and save project.
Restart multiAVCHD and do the same for a completely different source files with all new motion title thumbnail start times and button positions, etc.. compile and save project.
Restart multiAVCHD and load the project before the last completed, but the settings for start time and button positions are not what was saved initially, but the last projects settings.
Whoa.. that was a long explanation!:p
Is that the way it is suppose to be?

[deank]

1) It is good to save the projects BEFORE you start a compilation
2) Motion title start offset is a general setting
3) There is a [x] Discard settings from project files in SETTINGS (if it is ticked multiAVCHD won't import the GENERAL settings/ini from your project (mpf) file)
4) Once you create a compilation, each title gets its settings as a custom template (you'll notice the [menu] prefix and the lime color). In such case you need to edit title properties [more] and change the template for the title.

The general settings in MENU tab are applied only to newly added media. Once it becomes part of created compilation, each title has its own settings and ignores the general one in MENU tab. If you have a title with [menu] prefix and in LIME color it means it won't be affected by the changes in MENU tab (except few which are not part of the template, like the new setting for motion offset)

When doing multiple compilations preparation it is better ALWAYS to work with the TEMPLATE menu in title-properties. There you can set all you want per title and save it as a template. Later if you need it you can load it and apply it to any other title.

[Capsbackup]

So much to learn! Well, sometimes I take a little longer to get it. :confused:
I'll keep at it and though, since it is still fun. :)
Thanks.

[deank]

I hope it is still fun :)

There are a lot of things in the TEMPLATE window. You can try drelin's templates there, too.

//

Few optimizations to decrease multiAVCHD.exe size... + a new option [x] Use MPEG-2 codec for motion menu in MENU/Extended tab...

[deank]

Something disturbing from a post @ my forum:

Hi,

I created a AVCHD "file" to play on the PS3, it has one subtitle and one audio track. I successfully authored an AVCHD "file" that played on the PS3 just fine once, but when I went back to watch it again with a friend it wont play :S The file was untouched on my USB-stick between the play times.

So I figured somehow it had been corrupted so I authored it again and I get no errors from the log (see the log in the end of this post) after the program is done, I copy the AVCHD folder to the root of my USB-drive, put it in the PS3 (running the latest firmware: 3.21) and click on the folder but it wont start to play, I don't get the menu or nothing the PS3 just lists the folders and files.

As I said it worked once, why wont it work now?

Thanks for your time!

I really hope this user does something wrong (although I can't think of anything he could've done wrong) and Sony didn't put a hand on the home-brew AVCHD with menu :(

On the side: I got my PS3 connected to PSN and all with a DNS address change (without using a proxy).

[deank]

@laserfan / anyone else who knows:

Is it possible to set --qpfile with chapter frames for x264 when doing 1-pass encoding? I'd really like to add precise chapter jumps to IDR frames in case a source is re-encoded with x264.

Dean

[Adub]

As a matter of fact, yes, I believe that is possible. In fact, I believe MeGUI already supports this in it's One Click Encode feature.

Let me check.....Yep. It's under the "Encoder Config" tab of the advanced options of the "One Click Encoder" feature.

I believe MeGUI calls it "Force using Key-frames for chapter marks".

Edit: Plus, clicky (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1388105#post1388105).

[deank]

Nice... I'll add it in the next update. Although the end user may not really notice it, it is good to have it set properly in case one decides to re-encode a video to AVC/H.264.

[Adub]

Plus, about the "distubing post".

Sounds like a bad memory stick. I don't have a PS3 to test, but if a few users report back in the green, then my guess is bad hardware on the user's end.

[deank]

I hope so! :)

*** I just tested few mixed AVC/H.264 and MPEG-2 main-motion-menus on my PS3 and all looks okay.

I don't know if anyone will ever use the MPEG-2 option for motion menus, but it is an alternative. Chapter and SETUP menus are still in AVC/H.264.

Dean

[Adub]

You may find this useful: http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings#qpfile

[deank]

Yep... I know that site and the file format... I was just wondering if 1-pass supports qpfile... Probably I'm too slow with x264 development :) or probably misunderstood the feature when it appeared.

Thanks!

[Adub]

It should work in all x264 modes (CRF, 2-pass, etc).

[deank]

Plus, about the "distubing post".

Sounds like a bad memory stick. I don't have a PS3 to test, but if a few users report back in the green, then my guess is bad hardware on the user's end.

In fact an user error :)

Thanks for answering, this was totally my fault. Somehow I managed to press triangle and not x so I showed all files instead of just showing video files, when I pressed x on the PS3 controller everything went fine and it played nicely. :)

[Adub]

Ah, thought so. Good to note for future reference.

[deank]

Ok, the latest minor (+) update got the qpfile option when doing x264 encodes. It will use the chapter marks of a title (with -40ms offset) to set IDR frames to be used by x264. It may speed up chapter jumps (or at least won't slow them down) in case tsMuxeR calculations match multiAVCHD...

(minus)40ms is a precaution, since tsMuxeR may misbehave :) (40ms is about one 24p frame)

That is if you [transcode] a video from any format to AVC/H.264.

Dean :)

[Adub]

Might I ask why the -40ms offset? Is that just to create a keyframe slightly before the indicated chapter mark?

[flaviometal]

Dean, I'm working on a project with 4 videos, using motion background menu, and XMB style with thumbs, but mAVCHD is creating 4 different motion menus (1 for each episode). I want to know if it's there a way to use the same motion menu (created with mAVCHD for the video 1, for example) for all the other 3 motion menus.

[deank]

Yes...The IDR frame is supposed to be just a frame or two before the jump. It will take less time to seek to it (since the player will land on a B or P frame and will go back to seek the IDR, which is just 1-2 frames away). tsMuxeR doesn't do/set the exact jumps, that's why I need to use the offset.

Even at the moment the slow seek is not notable (at least with Playstation3) but now it should be faster.

Anyway it makes 1 frame difference in the qpfile.

[deank]

Dean, I'm working on a project with 4 videos, using motion background menu, and XMB style with thumbs, but mAVCHD is creating 4 different motion menus (1 for each episode). I want to know if it's there a way to use the same motion menu (created with mAVCHD for the video 1, for example) for all the other 3 motion menus.

Go to title-properties and [Menu page - [more]] to access the template. There you have the settings for the current title and you can reset or apply the settings to all other titles.

[flaviometal]

Go to title-properties and [Menu page - [more]] to access the template. There you have the settings for the current title and you can reset or apply the settings to all other titles.

I've already tried this, but doesn't work. One menu for each respective videos. What am I missing?

It's there a way to take one of the menus from the mAVCHD temp folder and use it for all the other 3 menus? If so, the only inconvenience its that way I must compile the project, take the menu, edit all menus and compile again!

[deank]

Ok, I re-read your question. No, you can't just re-use menus without reencoding. You can replace 8***0.m*ts files if you decide to create them yourself for each title (updating the clpi file too).

If you want to have a motion video and to have it the same for all titles you'll have to import it as bg video and use it for all titles.

[laserfan]

The IDR frame is supposed to be just a frame or two before the jump. It will take less time to seek to it (since the player will land on a B or P frame and will go back to seek the IDR, which is just 1-2 frames away). tsMuxeR doesn't do/set the exact jumps, that's why I need to use the offset... ...it makes 1 frame difference in the qpfile.
Sorry but I don't understand this. I have noticed that for most BDs, the chapter marks are at exactly the first frame in a new scene. So my qpfile for re-encoding does not need any adjustment, as x264 will make an I-frame at the scene change and thus the chapters seek perfectly.

But for some small percentage of BDs, they put the chapter marks at a frame or two past the scene change, and so I laboriously go thru all the frames in the qpfile to change them to one-or-two earlier, to the scene change, so I don't have x264 trying to make two I-frames in a row i.e. "get crosswise" with --min-keyint which I've set to 1.

Anyway, HOW EXACTLY are you applying a 40ms offset (where and how)? Am I off-base in what I have been doing to get seek points right? :confused:

[deank]

My concern is tsMuxeR's chapter setting in the mpls files for each title.

Basically a chapter jump (through a playlist mpls) is a "jump to the packet with PTS = xxxx". How could one be sure that this packet has the h264 start of a key/IDR frame?

I'm either missing something or I'm not understanding the whole concept.

Since decoding of the jump frame usually requires decoding of the previous IDR frame, I prefer to have x264 generate it just a bit earlier, so once the player decides to 'seek' for it, it will need to go just 1-2 frames back and reconstruct the requested one.

Please let me know if I'm getting this all wrong. I have my observations of how PS3 (although a powerful machine) struggles to seek back (either with reversed playback or seek-back - spinning its fans to 150% since the CPU needs much much more power to reconstruct the rev-playback).

And laserfan, my post is about a newly reencoded file (not a blu-ray one) and tsMuxeR's ability to link the chapter marks to the closest possible IDR frame in the encoded AVC video.

[Capsbackup]

deank, sorry to report that my Planet Earth, though it seemed to work perfectly playing on software players, would not work, and would freeze up my Sony S360 player after episode 6.
The first five episodes worked perfectly, including the motion menu and the motion title thumbnails. However, after the sixth episode, the motion menu would freeze up.
The player seemed to be less responsive too after the 4-5th episode, taking longer to change to a different episode thru button navigation, as well as when selecting play, it took longer to start.
I will try again with version 744+, since it appears you may have found the issue. I will try to let you know tomorrow with my results.

[Adub]

Huh, okay, well, I seem to have run into a problem while encoding the motion thumbnail.

X264 crashed:
http://www.screencast.com/users/Adub/folders/Jing/media/f7e58a9d-6e57-445d-b46a-2f623fa22aa1
If I click okay, Windows 7 tells me that I can close the program and report the error, or just close the program. I close the program, and multiAVCHD continues on it's own:

[18:56:02] Initialising...
[18:56:02] Checking for new version...
[18:56:03] You have the latest build.
[18:56:03] [02/04/2010] build 744 (latest is: 744) - Fixed SETUP page navigation for compilations with more than 10 titles. Updated BDSup2Sub to 4.0, x264 to r1510. New options.
[18:56:03] Consistency check finished!
[18:56:03] Initialization finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[18:56:03] 1 year and 97 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[18:56:03] 267 people supported it with donations
[18:56:03] and you are the 1395591 one to launch the program...
[18:56:03] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it going!


[18:56:03] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04000733]

[18:57:18] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[18:57:18] Destination [C:]: NTFS, 96512.09 MiB (94.25 GiB) free space
[18:57:18] Temp folder [c:]: NTFS, 96512.09 MiB (94.25 GiB) free space

[18:57:18] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.0 (build 744)
[18:57:18] Selected output mode: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)

[18:57:18] Processing one title...
[18:57:19] Processing (D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts)...
[18:57:21] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[18:57:21] Detected video: ID#4113:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=4
[18:57:21] DTS-HRA, DTS-MA will not be reencoded.
[18:57:21] Adding DTS audio track (ID#4352)
[18:57:21] Adding DTS audio track (ID#4353)
[18:57:21] Adding DTS audio track (ID#4354)
[18:57:21] Detected subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[18:57:21] Detected subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[18:57:21] Detected subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[18:57:21] Detected subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[18:57:21] Detected subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: und
[18:57:21] Total of 4 tracks found in this file.
[18:57:21] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[18:57:21] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding DTS-HD stream (track 2): Bitrate: 1536Kbps core + MLP data.Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1 (DTS Master Audio)
Decoding DTS stream (track 3): Bitrate: 768Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1
Decoding DTS stream (track 4): Bitrate: 768Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5.1
Decoding PGS stream (track 6): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 7): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 9): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 5): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 8): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Processed 220091 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 16 min 18 sec
===============================================================================

===============================================================================
tsMuxeR meta:
===============================================================================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:12:44.916;00:25:29.833;00:38:14.750;00:50:59.666;01:03:44.583;01:16:29.500;01:29:14.416;01:41:59.333;01:54:44.250;02:07:29.166;02:20:14.083 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, fps=23.976
A_DTS, "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", track=4352, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
A_DTS, "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", track=4353, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
A_DTS, "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", track=4354, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4609, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4611, lang=und
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\Multimedia\BluTemp\ING_BASTERDS\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4612, lang=und
===============================================================================
[19:11:16] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[19:11:16] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[19:11:16] Media transfer: 00002 -> 00002.m2ts
[19:11:17] Media transfer: 00003 -> 00003.m2ts
[19:11:17] Media transfer: 00004 -> 00004.m2ts
[19:11:17] Media transfer: 00005 -> 00005.m2ts
[19:11:17] Media transfer: 00006 -> 00006.m2ts
[19:11:17] Media transfer: 00007 -> 00007.m2ts
[19:11:17] Media transfer: 00008 -> 00008.m2ts
[19:11:17] Processing playlist...
[19:11:17] Title #1 added: "00010"
[19:11:17] Verifying title...
[19:11:45] Title has: 3 audio tracks and 5 subtitle tracks

[19:11:45] Preparing authoring information...
[19:11:45] Creating NTSC top menu.
[19:11:45] Setting pop-up menu...
[19:11:47] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [1080p]...
[19:11:47] *** Completed!
[19:11:47] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[19:11:47] Creating title thumbnails for 1 titles (XMB)...
[19:12:09] Using 12 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[19:12:09] *** Extracting 12 chapter thumbnails...
[19:15:06] Image processing for XMB menu completed!

[19:15:06] Preparing menu pages...

[19:15:07] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/1] [Motion title thumbnail].
[19:17:03] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/1]: Chapter page [1/1].
[19:17:42] Encoding motion XMB menu page [1/1]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[19:18:16] Menu authoring completed.

[19:18:17] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[19:18:26] Authoring welcome screen (NTSC).
[19:18:29] Encoding welcome screen...
[19:18:43] Authoring welcome screen completed.
[19:18:43] Setting main menu for 1 titles...
[19:18:43] Playback will end after title #1.
[19:18:43] Setting menu properties...
[19:18:43] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[19:18:43] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[19:18:43] Completed.
[19:18:43] Setting Blu-ray format...
[19:18:46] Done!

[19:18:46] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[19:18:46] C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_INGTEST12\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)
Name : INGTEST12
===============================================================================
1. 00010 [02:32:59]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 02:32:59
Output size : 35689 MiB (34.853 GiB)

[19:18:46] C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_INGTEST12 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[19:18:46] Burn its CONTENTS to BD-R/RE UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[19:18:49] You may now remove temp folder (c:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100402\).
[19:18:49] Your compilation contains 2hrs 32min 59sec of video material.

[19:18:49] multiAVCHD finished in 1291.064 seconds (00:21:31.063)!

[19:18:49] End of log.

[19:18:49] Cleaning up...
[19:18:50] Done!

[19:18:50] For technical support, bug reports and questions:

[19:18:50] http://multiforum.deanbg.com/
[19:18:50] http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/
[19:18:50] http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744


I'm not quite sure why the error occured. I have no problems when encoding with the X264 installed by meGUI, I even ran about 6 tests that encoded a DVD over and over for hours and no problems occured.

edit: I'm replacing the x264 version included by mAVCHD with the MeGUI one and trying again. Let's see if it crashes.
edit2: Huh, even with a totally different executable it crashes.

[BZeeme]

It happened to me yesterday, too... Strange it wasn't reported earlier...

There is a calculation error for the subpath IDs for the IGS for titles>10 (decimal to hex conversion).

Update to 744 I fixed it. If you don't want to redo your compilation - send me 00255.mpls - it needs one byte change and will be fixed.

Dean

I will probably redo it. I've had several other issues getting this project done, but I want to gather my data and compose my remarks before posting about them.

[Puki]

Hi Dean,

I have searched but didn't find anything about "(more than 10 playitems: output suppressed)" in the log.

Could you please be so kind and give me a hint :) ?

Regards

Puki

[deank]

Some menu playlists contain over 100 (or 500 until recently in multiAVCHD) playitems (m2ts files). multiAVCHD reports the first 10 and the last 10 - they are all the same, so no need to full the log with this information. This is done so the menu will play almost indefinitely (like 5-10 hours) if you leave your player unattended.

[Capsbackup]

Latest test of Planet Earth to BD-RE with 744+ works perfectly on my S360. :)
Thanks for a quick find and fix!

Regarding chapters created/used from tsMuxeR, I found that on some episodes the chapter lands on a frame before it should, or at least I see a quick seen change after the chapter selection starts. It seems it should have been a few frames later, so that it is already at this next scene. Not a big deal though, and it happens on backups of almost every Blu-Ray I have done.
Now I am looking forward to if/when the motion menu capabilities are greater than 32 seconds. :p

[deank]

Well... that may be not that easy to implement, but I'll get to it next week. Good to know your PE disc works now :)

About the chapters - it has nothing to do with multiAVCHD. The discussion above is when you use multiAVCHD to re-encode your source and is not related to the muxing part with tsMuxeR of videos you brought into multiAVCHD :)

[Capsbackup]

Well... that may be not that easy to implement, but I'll get to it next week. Good to know your PE disc works now :)

About the chapters - it has nothing to do with multiAVCHD. The discussion above is when you use multiAVCHD to re-encode your source and is not related to the muxing part with tsMuxeR of videos you brought into multiAVCHD :)

The wish list exists, but the appreciation list is greater! :)
I am perfectly content with the motion menu/motion title thumbnails as is! Maybe it's just presumptuous, but your quick changes/fixes and feature additions and enhancements have spoiled me! :p
I realise it is not multiAVCHD regarding chapters issues, but was just relaying an observation, not trying to imply a bug. :cool:

[Puki]

Some menu playlists contain over 100 (or 500 until recently in multiAVCHD) playitems (m2ts files). multiAVCHD reports the first 10 and the last 10 - they are all the same, so no need to full the log with this information. This is done so the menu will play almost indefinitely (like 5-10 hours) if you leave your player unattended.

Thanks Dean, that makes things clearer :)

Regards

Puki

And btw: fantastic additions during the last two weeks!

[laserfan]

And laserfan, my post is about a newly reencoded file (not a blu-ray one) and tsMuxeR's ability to link the chapter marks to the closest possible IDR frame in the encoded AVC video.I knew that. The point I was trying to make was "how do you know what the PTS is of the IDR frame" because if you use the originals and then re-encode, you can't depend on the player landing properly, because the I frames may have changed. I guess you are saying then that you simply assert a slightly later landing time for the chapter, and then the player will in most instances seek-back to the I-frame that is most recent, and which too (hopefully) is at the scene change.

I don't pretend to understand how any of this works (!), only that IME the chapter marks from the original will, many times, not match-up with an I-frame in the re-encode, which results in the "shows a frame or two from the previous scene when advancing to a chapter" as Capsbackup said too.

[Fastbke170]

Hi Dean,
Well I just finished LOTR Trilogy (one 25gig BDR) :cool: , although I rarely change settings I thought I would give the new Mpeg2 Menu encoding a go. The Reason for this is I usually have issues when I get to this point. I basically get a stall and the program timer instead of counting down as its encoding menu the timer goes higher. I just use the handy dandy Break button and skip to the next taskat hand to which MultiAVCHD uses Title menu.

OK so now when I get to Menu encoding time with Mpeg2 Ticked , My Counter didnt show any activity for about 10 minutes, So I used the Break button again and have a Nice Title Menu ( No Biggie ). I know youhave posted about Menu encoding in the past, Mind you Im the guy with the Actual Super PC Core I7 950 OC 4.2 with 12 Gigs of RAM :rolleyes:, I dont usually report anything because with 12 updates a week you usually fix whatever is wrong too fast. :p , I will try the tried and true reload AVISYNTHHAALIFFDSHOW fix. I hit the break button so I donth think the Log Would really help. I'll keep you posted

FB

[deank]

I never use the BREAK and ABORT buttons... I don't really know what they actually do :p (seriously... don't use them).

The MPEG-2 menu encoding option requires 2-pass processing. Just to be on the safe side - make sure you enable [x] Show spawned tools option in SETTINGS tab.

Then you'll see all tools and what they are doing.

[Fastbke170]

Ok That Explains it, I selected 1-Pass . I thought it would save time, hehe :p. Yeah 16MB cuts take SOO long. Ok next time Ill try 2-pass. Thanks Dean

[deank]

1pass with HCenc is ignored since the source (menu) is <60 seconds. With MPEG-2 you'll always get 2pass processing (which in fact is really nice and produces great quality).

[deank]

I got this e-mail this morning from a multiAVCHD user:

Hi Dean,
I came across multiAVCHD only a few days ago, and I love it!

I have an idea that could make it even more practical for Adobe Premiere Pro users.
Adobe Premiere Pro (CS4) can edit AVCHD files, however it cannot output them without re-compression as multiAVCHD can...
However, Premiere Pro is a very convenient tool for editting large amount of video files (cutting / re-ordering etc.).

I wanted to know if you could add an "import-from-textfile" feature to multiAVCHD:
import video files from a list in a text file, where each line in the text file will contain the video filename, and the trimming times to cut from the beginning and end of this video. If such a feature will be present in multiAVCHD users will be able to export the editting data from Premiere Pro to a text file and import it to multiAVCHD,
thus rendering the project using multiAVCHD.

Users can use the dynamic link from Adobe Premiere Pro to AE (Adobe After Effects), and for AE I could write a script that will export the editting data to a text file.
I've written a few scripts to AE already, and this one should not be too hard (unfortunately, Premiere does not support scripting the way AE does...).
Just let me know the text format that is most convenient to you.
something like: filename, inTrim[sec], outTrim[sec]
for example (comma seperated f):
"d:\My documents\my videos\file0001.m2ts", 2, 4
"d:\My documents\my videos\file0002.m2ts", 3, 1
"d:\My documents\my videos\file0003.m2ts", 0, 40
"d:\My documents\my videos\file0003.m2ts", 20, 10
"d:\My documents\my videos\file0004.m2ts", 0, 1

Let me know if you could do that.
It should be very similar to your "Add video files" button, but will enter the data to the Trim fields (instead of 0, 0).
If you can add that to multiAVCHD, let me know the exact format that is most convenient for you,
and I will make the AE Script export the data in that format.
Is it possible to trim times in mili-seconds or fractions of a second (in order to make it more accurate to frames) ?

I think this feature and the proposed technique could make a real revolution for users who want to use Premiere to edit large and complex projects, and want multiAVCHD to combine it all to an AVCHD folder (or any other output option) without re-compressing the video.

Thanks a lot

It was quite easy to implement it, so I did that. You can now import plain text files (with .mfl extension). The format is:

file_name|trim_start|trim_end|poster_frame_in_seconds

Example:


00001.m2ts|12.041|96.811|4.555
F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts|12.041
D:\00003.m2ts|||1813
C:\00004.m2ts

The only required field is the filename. The text file should have .mfl extension. With this one, multiAVCHD types grow by one:

.mpf - project file
.mlf - language file
.mmt - menu template
.mfl - file list

:rolleyes:
Dean

[CoolHandPuke]

Hi Dean, been having a few issues since the last few updates.

In the old version whenever I hit start it would come up with the options menu for what type I would like, I always used the AVCH to dvd for panasonic players and this worked flawlessly! Since the update this option is gone and is replaced with AVCHD (strict) and AVCHD (loose) I havent been able to get an AVCHD burned to dvd that works since.

The dvd loads and then says play on the br player(panny bd30) and then imediately syas stop?

What am I doing wrong

Thanks

P.S. also I never did get the fit to all to work, it ALWAYS seems to create a disk that is 101% of the dvd size therefore rendering the convertion useless. I must admit this mainly happens when I am trying to encode video streams that are over 4500MB in the first place, any suggestions?

[deank]

AVCHD (strict) should work... If you can't make it work, you'll have to use version 3.0. FIT-ALL does not take into account menu files and in version 4 motion menus may take up to 30MB per title.

[CoolHandPuke]

Ok dean thanks for the quick reply. do you think if I disable all menus this will make the fit to all work for files larger than 4500MB?

Also I have tried about 3 different projects with strict, none fo them work? I am currently writing a project with loose to see if this solves the problem. Will update if succesful on both counts.

CHP

[CoolHandPuke]

Just noticed something and being a noob Im probably way of track BUT worth asking, I have noticed that I have img burn set to autostart and in settings the default is use img burn with drd/bd-r output as apposed to what I BELIEVE I used to use was the ISO settings when launching imgburn manually and adding the folders, it would autamatically adjust to this, could this be the case that imgburn is buring the disc in the wronf format?