multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[deank]

The .iso output will create an iso file and will load it in imgburn. I believe it is not the cause of the troubles you're having. Other users reported problems with Panasonics and version 4. Still BD60 and few other models are reported to work with the (strict) button - static menus, no special extras.

[CoolHandPuke]

Ok so by the sound of things there is no alternative other than to use version 3?

Is this something that will be fixed in future version 4 updates?

[deank]

Sadly, the problem exists only with few blu-ray player models and it is very difficult to understand what causes them to reject the discs. You can try to create a compilation without a menu and report if it is working.

[AJ500]

I got this e-mail this morning from a multiAVCHD user:
...

It was quite easy to implement it, so I did that. You can now import plain text files (with .mfl extension). The format is:

file_name|trim_start|trim_end|poster_frame_in_seconds

...
Dean

Thanks for adding this feature. This is much better than frameserving or re-encoding with Premiere Pro if you're only doing trims.

[colinhunt]

deank, made a donation a moment ago to thank you for all the hard work you've done creating all those useful apps. Keep it up.

[mpucoder]

@seskookses: I can not approve your attachments because they refer to downloaded files.

[flaviometal]

Hi dean!

It's possible to put 1 or 2 videos BEFORE menu? Cause I was thinking to put some trailers before the main movie...

Thanks, and keep the good work!

[deank]

Yes, you can mark first 2 titles as hidden (in title properties) and set the second [default action] GO TO MENU. :)

[colinhunt]

A quickie: is multiAVCHD supposed to work on a 64-bit Windows 7? Didn't see any mention of that in the first post.

[deank]

Yep :) It works.

[deank]

* Latest multiAVCHD update can work and produce Blu-ray/HD-DVD with all versions of x264 (older versions, the new r1510 and the patched by rack04 for the long-start-code r1510M)
* For HD-DVD you'll need to update hddvdmux.exe and x264 with the those from this link (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/hddvdmux_x264_tools.rar) or at least replace your hddvdmux.exe with the renamed hddvdmux-p.exe (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/hddvdmux-p.exe)
* All encoding profiles should now work for HD-DVD output.
* Latest full-download of multiAVCHD includes rack04's build r1510M x264 and the updated (patched by me) hddvdmux.exe

If you want to make tests outside multiAVCHD:
If using the regular x264 r1510 you'll need to use --nal-hrd none
If using r1510M by rack04 you can use --nal-hrd vbr
If using older builds you need to use --nal-hrd

For encoding compliant HD-DVD you'll need to use: --keyint 14 --ref 1 --weightp 0 options, too.

In latest update you'll find lines saying for example:
[20:18:52] *** Encoding : x264 options: --preset veryfast --bitrate 5834 --keyint 14 --level 4.1 --min-keyint 4 --bframes 2 --ref 1 --subme 2 --mvrange 511 --partitions p8x8,i8x8 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-bufsize 17500 --vbv-maxrate 17000 --qcomp 0.5 --threads 2 --thread-input --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --b-pyramid strict --slices 0 --weightp 0 --rc-lookahead 14 --output "D:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20100406\5min cut.[1920x1080-23.976].264" "C:\calcit\tools\20100406-201852-uncrop-running.avs"


They'll show the actual parameters passed to x264 for all modes and profiles. I avoided doing this because I'll get requests to change the parameters. So if you're planning to ask me to change anything, just don't post or I'll just ignore your request.

Also a small addition the the .mfl text-list import... Additional field is added to set hidden titles (hidden=1 means hidden).

file|cut_start|cut_end|poster|hidden

Example:

00001.m2ts|12.345|56.877|19.223|1

Dean

[AJ500]

I'm attempting to create a SD from a 17 minute 1440x1080 m2ts file. The processing is stuck in HCenc 0.24 at 27% in stage 1. The m2ts file plays OK by itself or from a Blu-ray image.

Suggestions of what to look for?

[Adub]

Create an avs script loading the m2ts file and see if it plays.

Or try loading one of the temp scripts created by multiAVCHD.

[colinhunt]

Yep :) It works.
Hmm. It crashes constantly on my W7; I'll do some more testing to narrow the issue down.

[rack04]

Hmm. It crashes constantly on my W7; I'll do some more testing to narrow the issue down.

I have used multiAVCHD with great success on Win7 Ultimate 64bit.

[deank]

Hmm. It crashes constantly on my W7; I'll do some more testing to narrow the issue down.

What crashes? :)

[deank]

Build 745:

* Fixed: Re-authoring Blu-ray discs for Playstation3 loses the pop-up menu in 2nd-Nth segments (playitems) when main movie is split into 4GB chunks. Now all ok.
* Fixed: SD-DVD authoring fails to demux MPEG (mp2/mp3/mpa) audio tracks from ts/m2ts/mts. Now ok.
* Fixed: HD-DVD now works with all encoding profiles (with the newer x264 builds)
* x264 (32bit and 64bit) updated in the full-download to version r1523M compiled by rack04
* hddvdmux updated in full-download with my patched version (0.33p) for better support of the new x264 builds
* BDsup2sub updated to 4.0 in the full-download
* Some other minor fixes...

Dean

[deank]

A user on my forum requested that old resolution test I created back in january last year. Since I don't have it anymore and he asked me to use some better samples to determine overscan and other issues, I recreated the whole thing.

It is related to my post from January 2009. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1235782#post1235782)

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/restest-01.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/restest-02.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/restest-03.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/restest-04.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/restest-05.jpg

Here is a Playstation 3 ready AVCHD for testing (20MB). (http://rapidshare.com/files/373113852/resolution-test-ps3.rar) It contains 720x....@25.000fps PAL samples, so it is possible that if your player is NTSC it won't work.

Here is the folder with all source m2ts files (http://rapidshare.com/files/373113851/resolution_test.rar) you can use to create your own test. There is a file-list MFL file (resolution_test.mfl) which you can load into multiAVCHD and remove the PAL files if you wish, or simply re-order the test compilation.

The list of resolutions tested (5 seconds for each):

720x288
720x320
720x352
720x368
720x384
720x392
720x424
720x432
720x440
720x448
720x456
720x464
720x472
720x480
720x488
720x496
720x512
720x528
720x544
720x560
720x576
720x288-PAL
720x320-PAL
720x352-PAL
720x368-PAL
720x384-PAL
720x392-PAL
720x424-PAL
720x432-PAL
720x440-PAL
720x448-PAL
720x456-PAL
720x464-PAL
720x472-PAL
720x480-PAL
720x488-PAL
720x496-PAL
720x512-PAL
720x528-PAL
720x544-PAL
720x560-PAL
720x576-PAL
1280x496
1280x512
1280x528
1280x544
1280x560
1280x576
1280x592
1280x608
1280x624
1280x640
1280x656
1280x672
1280x688
1280x704
1280x720
1920x768
1920x776
1920x784
1920x792
1920x800
1920x808
1920x816
1920x824
1920x832
1920x840
1920x848
1920x856
1920x864
1920x872
1920x880
1920x888
1920x896
1920x912
1920x920
1920x928
1920x944
1920x952
1920x960
1920x968
1920x976
1920x984
1920x992
1920x1000
1920x1008
1920x1016
1920x1024
1920x1032
1920x1040
1920x1048
1920x1056
1920x1064
1920x1072
1920x1080


Dean

[VincAlastor]

my girlfriend want to play some blu ray discs from me, of course which i created with multiavchd 4. but her windvd bd edition (pre-installed on her notebook) won't play the discs. no problems with ps3 and tmt 3 ...anyone an idea, please?

[flaviometal]

VincAlastor, I use PowerDVD9, and works fine! ;)

[setarip_old]

@deank

Hi!

Regarding Build 745, you say: Fixed: HD-DVD now works with all encoding profiles (with the newer x264 builds)
* x264 (32bit and 64bit) updated in the full-download to version r1523M compiled by rack04
* hddvdmux updated in full-download with my patched version (0.33p) for better support of the new x264 builds Does that mean it WILL now properly convert BDs produced with the latest UNALTERED BD-RB build, or am I reading too much into your statements?

[deank]

Well, at least it won't crash :) You can try it and see what will happen. Using --nal-hrd none 100% will make it work.

[setarip_old]

You can try it and see what will happen. Using --nal-hrd none 100% will make it work.
C'mon, which is it ?

[deank]

'Newer x264 builds' in my post about 745 one must read as 'when used by multiAVCHD'. I already answered to your question that the version included in BD-RB won't work with the original hddvdmux. It MAY work with the patched version, and that's why I asked you to check it yourself. I don't have anything produced by BD-RB to test against.

[setarip_old]

@deank

(Sorry to do this here but, as you well know, it's in lieu of email)

I'm going to press you because you're making me feel stupid:

So why would you say/What does this mean?: Using --nal-hrd none 100% will make it work.

[deank]

The start-code format of each h.264 NAL packet in the bitstream produced by these new x264 builds is changed. hddvdmux uses code fragments by an old h264info build, which doesn't really understand these codes.

The builds of x264 I provide with multiAVCHD produce the 'regular' NAL packets and hddvdmux works.

The build included in BD-RB uses these new start-codes. If you use --nal-hrd none the packets will be okay for hddvdmux (but won't be Blu-ray compliant).

You have 2 options:

1) Do your stuff only with multiAVCHD
2) Do your stuff as you did before, but change x264.exe in BD-RB with the one from multiAVCHD.

It is as simple as that ;)

[setarip_old]

2) Do your stuff as you did before, but change x264.exe in BD-RB with the one from multiAVCHD.Thanks for clarifying - this will do the trick just fine ;>}

BTW - I just recently dabbled in menuing for the first time - And one of my grandchildren was delighted to see an opening screen for "Astro Boy' that was personalized with his name emblazoned on the .PNG of the "Astroboy" cover ;>}

Thanks again for your ever-growing multiAVCHD toolbox!

[deank]

:-) Thanks!

***

About Blu-ray to SD-DVD conversion:

* Latest full-download has the latest Muxman 0.16.7
* A minor change for 1080p blu-ray to DVD subtitles: it now uses Hermite resize filter - looks much better choice for downscaling to SD resolution

And an important note to those of you who convert Blu-rays to DVD - when possible always use main movie playlist (mpls) and not the movie m2ts file. It will help fixing weird glitches in the original blu-ray.

Example:

I tried today to convert Cruel Intentions Blu-ray to DVD using the m2ts file. All okay, but during the transcoding all is okay until 7min 4secs and then something happens and to the end of the transcoding I got a still frame (the one @ 00:07:04.223).

After a close examination and remuxing with tsmuxer I noticed an error message "AC3 bad frame @ 00:07:04.223 Resync stream" ... or something similar. It is strange that transcode stucks there since it uses only the video, but still there must be something either in the splitter or ffdshow which causes avisynth to fail in its attempt to seek after this frame.

So I used main movie mpls, which leads to remuxing prior to the transcoding and all went fine :) and in 2hrs I got a DVD copy of the blu-ray title.

Dean :)

// The exact error message was:

Decoding PGS stream (track 3): Resolution: 1280:720 Frame rate: 23.976
7.3% complete
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position 00:07:04,223. Resync stream.

[vamsiklak]

The start-code format of each h.264 NAL packet in the bitstream produced by these new x264 builds is changed. hddvdmux uses code fragments by an old h264info build, which doesn't really understand these codes.

The builds of x264 I provide with multiAVCHD produce the 'regular' NAL packets and hddvdmux works.

The build included in BD-RB uses these new start-codes. If you use --nal-hrd none the packets will be okay for hddvdmux (but won't be Blu-ray compliant).

You have 2 options:

1) Do your stuff only with multiAVCHD
2) Do your stuff as you did before, but change x264.exe in BD-RB with the one from multiAVCHD.

It is as simple as that ;)

HI Dean

I have two questions
Iam just wondering i just saw tsmuxer v 19.9 in tools
if we upgrade it to 10.6 does Multiavchd works or any problem not comptable
please help


second one is

I have three files
one is 200mb a
2 nd is 16gb
3rd is 4gb

I want to put all together and create amenu that shows the background pic

title one as preview
2 as movie
3 as extra features
Iam trying to get arrow instead of small box


thankyou in advance

[deank]

HI Dean

I have two questions
Iam just wondering i just saw tsmuxer v 19.9 in tools
if we upgrade it to 10.6 does Multiavchd works or any problem not comptable
please help


second one is ...


About the 1st one: there are both 1.9.9 and 1.10.6 in tools folder. Do not change/replace anything!

About the 2nd one: I read your post few times and I can't really understand it. You'll need to try to explain better.

Dean

// If you want the 'arrow' then you'll have to use version 3.0
// No you can't get a blinking text
// Yes you can make the box invisible by setting IGS opacity in MENU tab.

[vamsiklak]

You mean change the color on mainmenu IG color sub-menu color
Is it possible
I have the text towards right of the screen and i want to move towards where the box icon is
Thankyou so much

[deank]

No, I mean the OPACITY (it is the slider next to the color box).

You can use the preview button [MAIN] in MENU tab to see how your menu will look like. Make the adjustments and once all fits - start your compilation. You can preview the CHAPTERS and SETUP pages, too:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_CI_PREVIEW.jpg

[vamsiklak]

No, I mean the OPACITY (it is the slider next to the color box).

You can use the preview button [MAIN] in MENU tab to see how your menu will look like. Make the adjustments and once all fits - start your compilation. You can preview the CHAPTERS and SETUP pages, too:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_CI_PREVIEW.jpg

Thanyou so much
now it works
excellent man

The last thing
I don't understand it though

Just like in that capture pic
I eliminated the thumbnail,tilte and description next the main thumbnail which i wanted it to

I just want to move the text from right side of the screen to left side when the checker box use to be or in other wordswhere SETUP and CHAPTERS are now in the pic
so that i can click and play the moive or click and play the extra features which i changed the names when i add it toin the media button
catch my point
sorry man
:thanks:

i.e

screen with bacgground pic
play and special feartures right next to the box icon towards left


thnakyou verymuch all the help

[deank]

You have a tab in MENU for BUTTONS. There you can change their positions/coordinates and move them wherever you want. You can do the same for the title-thumbnail (which you disabled), for the SETUP and for the CHAPTER menu.

Please just take a look at the options available, do some tests/preview and you'll find the answer yourself.

[vamsiklak]

You have a tab in MENU for BUTTONS. There you can change their positions/coordinates and move them wherever you want. You can do the same for the title-thumbnail (which you disabled), for the SETUP and for the CHAPTER menu.

Please just take a look at the options available, do some tests/preview and you'll find the answer yourself.

cool
yes Iam playing with those
Thankyou man
you rocks:thanks:

[laserfan]

* A minor change for 1080p blu-ray to DVD subtitles: it now uses Hermite resize filter - looks much better choice for downscaling to SD resolution
Hmmm Dean I had to Google this and can't find very much about it--what inspired this change if I may ask?

[deank]

Well, both my conversions from Blu-ray to DVD made me change the default 'bilinear' (or it was 'bicubic') filter used for resizng in BDsup2sub. Gettng from 1080p to 480p doesn't look very nice with bilinear. Hermite and Mitchel do much better.

Of course if you don't really like it you can resize your subtitles before you start the conversion and use them as external. I may add a drop-down to chose from BDsup2sub resize filters.

Here are some comparisons. (http://www.nobel-joergensen.com/roller/java/entry/downscaling_images_in_java)

[vamsiklak]

Got It
add files
choose the files and under title name I re type the name i want
and i moved forwards yes the text went forward
the same way are we able to change the parameter to go backwards towards the box icon
so on the just plain text will be at left side instead of rightside

sorry man
this is the last time iam going to bother you

thankyou so much

[deank]

You're not bothering me, but I can't understand your posts. Please use '.' and try to express yourself better. :rolleyes:

[vamsiklak]

You're not bothering me, but I can't understand your posts. Please use '.' and try to express yourself better. :rolleyes:

Ok
heres is the thing
Iopened the multiavchd
and i add two/three m2ts files
(in AUTHOR i chose add titles list .xmb menu,popup menu ticked)
in media screen i click the first file to expand the properties under the compilation
it opened to another window,there under the title name
i changed the name
i did with rest two files
and i went to menu and preview the main menu

It shows on the screen
towards rightside there are three titles in text(which i wanted that way)
Just text names but in the rightmost side
I wanted to move those text to rightside of the screen

I hope i explained it correctly

[VincAlastor]

@dean

mpeg-2 menus are working with windvd bd edition. can i encode a static menu with mpeg-2, too?

[deank]

What isn't working with that player?

I set MPEG-2 to be available only for motion menu, but if it will improve compatibility I may try to add it to the static menus, too.

Is it your player or your girlfriend's player that wouldn't play the AVC menus? What make/model was her player?

//edit... oh it was the software one ;)

[VincAlastor]

What isn't working with that player?

I set MPEG-2 to be available only for motion menu, but if it will improve compatibility I may try to add it to the static menus, too.

Is it your player or your girlfriend's player that wouldn't play the AVC menus? What make/model was her player?

it is my girlfriend's player. she uses the vaio vgn-fw11s notebook and the pre-installed bd player is intervideo windvd bd for vaio (picture: http://img.informer.com/wiki/mediawiki/thumb.php?f=WinDVD_BD_for_VAIO.JPG&width=300 )

original blu-rays and your mpeg-2 menu bd's are working.

[VincAlastor]

i knew it.... she just causes me a lot of trouble :D

need a static mpeg-2 menu more than one frame per page? ...my girlfriend isn't important enough, if the disc space is shrinking to much ;)

[deank]

Cool!

I'll try to add the static MPEG-2, too... Let me do some tests tomorrow and I'll post back.

Then as I promised I'll try to lift the 32 seconds limit to a user-defined onel :)

Dean :rolleyes:

[Adub]

@deank,
I have updated the guide to reflect your suggestion about playlist selection.

I hope to have a screencast version up sometime in the next few days (hopefully tonight).

[VincAlastor]

if a blu ray with mpeg-2 menus could be more compatible, the 32-sec-limit isn't important, isn't it?! :(

[deank]

@deank,
I have updated the guide to reflect your suggestion about playlist selection.

I hope to have a screencast version up sometime in the next few days (hopefully tonight).

Thanks! I think it will be a better way to do things and the users reading your guide will get into less troubles! :)

If the user isn't aware which is the main movie playlist it is always a good thing to set Do not import AVCHD/BD playlists if shorter than [****] seconds in Author tab. Setting a value of 3600 for example will make multiAVCHD skip all Blu-ray titles/playlists with duration < 1hr.

If a user is aware of the correct playlist file then one can just load it into multiAVCHD (either with drag&drop or with Add video files button).

if a blu ray with mpeg-2 menus could be more compatible, the 32-sec-limit isn't important, isn't it?! :(

There is a conflict of interests here. Is it the playability or the girlfriend that matters most? :p Or your 3 requests to make the motion menu > 32s? :)

[Capsbackup]

Then as I promised I'll try to lift the 32 seconds limit to a user-defined onel :)
Dean :rolleyes:

This will come in handy when backing up a Blu-Ray to a movie only AVCHD but using the original motion menu. I have been able to shorten the originals to 32 seconds, but sometimes the cut point is not the best, and using the original motion menu .m2ts would be much simpler and faster.
I'm looking forward to this!:)

[VincAlastor]

primary i wish longer custom motion avc menus or a "trailer"-button. but of course if mpeg-2 menus improve the compatibility for software players and maybe some of the critical hardware players, this will be more important for me.