multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[deank]

Latest minor update for 602/602+:

* About 5-10 times faster preview/>>/<< in "Title properties"
* Fixed preview for AVCHD/BD folders (playlists)
* Added: "multiAVCHD finished in XXXX seconds" message at the end of the log

Dean

[rendez2k]

I'm just creating my latest complication and I wondered if its possible to move the thumbnails in the default "thumbnail menu" - with 3 titles they look a bit unbalanced with 2 on top then one to the left on the bottom?

[deank]

When I first created THM menu I was thinking of implementing

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But it requires too much time... which I put in more useful features. I will see about implementing it.

I'd suggest to you to use XMB when you have less than 7 titles.

[rendez2k]

When I first created THM menu I was thinking of implementing

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X . X
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X X X
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X X

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But it requires too much time... which I put in more useful feature. I will see about implementing it.

I'd suggest to you to use XMB when you have less than 7 titles.

Brilliant! Look forward to seeing what you come up with :-)

[drelin]

I posted about 10 times about background audio for the menu. If it was possible, I would've added it months ago. When I find a way - I will add such option.

I removed 'pop-up menu' option as I removed "Panasonic SDHC" option some time ago, because there was no space in the GUI (especially for an option not working). Once I implement it - it will appear again.

Dean

It's clear.

I don't see the post about audio background, sorry if you must repeat same thing another time.
For the other option, it's just to know the advancement of you plan.

I make suggestion only, I support your job and take with interrest any new feature added.

Thank for the answer.

[deank]

Just to put you all up to speed with things I'll be working on the next few days:

* Implementing "Add chapters" in title preview
* Option to add a file for custom Welcome screen
* Changes in THM menu
* Initiate 'carousel menu' tests

If there is anyone reading with some free time (in my time zone GMT+2 / +/- 5hrs) and willing to spend time in testing with (sometimes not working) test builds of multiAVCHD - drop a note (PM or via skype).

Dean

[Mike1029]

Hi Deank, I just compiled an avchd with 33 titles but the time length of one of them were shown 13:15 iso original 1:45 and it hanged at the end of the movie when I play it. Is there any workaround to change the time back to original. Thank you.

[maxb1]

Hi Dean,

that's my first post in this forum. I came across this great program a few weeks ago and I must say congratulations to your excellent work!

I do work with Pinnacle Studio 12 Plus to create AVCHD and BDMV output. For playback on a Panasonic BD-60 I intend to use its SDHC slot. To put the Pinnacle AVCHD output structure on a FAT32 SDHC it is sufficient to bring the files into 8.3 filename structure if you have .m2ts files which are below 4GiB.

However if the .m2ts are bigger than 4GiB I want to use multiAVCHD build 603 and set the split-point to 3999MiB in the muxer tab.
When selecting the input files through the "AVCHD/BDMV/DVD" button it seem to work fine with multiAVCHD but it does not split the .m2ts output file at the desired size. There is just one stream generated that has the original size of the input file (in my case 4,7GiB) and I'm not able to copy it to a SDHC card.

The same is true for BDMV folders but it works without any issue for DVD folders.

Any idea what may go wrong here?

Thanks
maxb1

[deank]

I just compiled an avchd with 33 titles but the time length of one of them were shown 13:15 iso original 1:45 and it hanged at the end of the movie...

I do not understand what happened exactly.

...if the .m2ts are bigger than 4GiB I want to use multiAVCHD build 603 and set the split-point to 3999MiB in the muxer tab.
When selecting the input files through the "AVCHD/BDMV/DVD" button it seem to work fine with multiAVCHD but it does not split the .m2ts output file at the desired size.

1) Enable [x] Prompt to import playlists (in Settings)
2) Drag your folder to multiAVCHD
3) "Would you like to import individual playlists?" message will appear
4) Click yes and select the correct MPL/mpls file

You will see the imported playlist in Media tab, identified by [f]. If it is [p] or [m] - split will not be applied.

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Dean

[drelin]

A question about understanding setting "Frame to encode" in Visual settings on Menu Tab.
What is the result with differents values lower and high (2-30s) in playback.

I ask you because I remark in playback (on standalone and PDVD) a delay for access to button navigation each change page menu displayed.
Depending the settings I'll be able to optimate the delay access navigation with my players (PS3 and Sony S350).

[deank]

The option is left for compatibility reasons. The lowest is the value - the better. You need to experiment with its values, starting from 2 frames (lowest value). If it works in your player - leave it to 2 - if not - set it to 10 and try again.

Values of 4-6-8 should work for most people.

[drelin]

With 603 build I obtaint windows error message whent i click on title in the edit TAB " No disk (or media) in the reader. Insert a disk in reader D". (D is a DVD-RW reader/writer).
I seen this message in prevouis build if I remember : problem with ".multiTH" folder ?

[deank]

It is mplayer causing the error... multiAVCHD is looking for the thumbnails - that's why the popup appears.

[deank]

A small update in 603+:

* Fixed import of "Welcome screens" (the program fragment was deleted by accident in some of the previous builds) - multiAVCHD will prompt if you want to import the welcome screen from a previous compilation (if 01400.*** are found in it)

* Fixed navigation placeholders for Classic and Thumbnail menu - nav arrow won't show in software players if you're using the mouse.

Dean

[Mtz]

I don´t see it - how do you get it shown?
Here are some screenshots with my settings.
http://thumbnails14.imagebam.com/3633/8ae4c136322075.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8ae4c136322075) http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/3633/0c5c6636322077.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0c5c6636322077) http://thumbnails9.imagebam.com/3633/6c7d1436322079.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/6c7d1436322079)

I hope that settings are enough for subtitles.

As decoder I use ffdshow for H264/AVC decoding and I enabled ffmpeg-mt. That green info is from ffdshow OSD to prove that I'm using ffdshow.

enjoy,
Mtz

[Mtz]

dean, about your working with TS: try to extract the subtitles from your TS with CCExtractorGUI (http://freshmeat.net/projects/ccextractor). The OCR is not so good. Also I saw that you posted in the BDSup2Sub thread about this type of subtitles and the author can't do much at this moment. Tell him also about this program maybe he can find how to implement in his program loading of CC (teletext) subtitles from TS stream. I think the CC subtitles are only used on MPEG2 video. Timmings in CC subtitles are not so good as usual subtitles.
If you are working on TS caps also you can test the program MPEG2Repair (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MPEG2Repair).

enjoy,
Mtz

[Cela]

I should have posted my problem here instead of there:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1284677#post1284677

Here I have the feeling, that Deank's tools could do what I need: For the start I would need an easy transcoding workflow (with tools and sample avs, etc.) for Xvid streams recorded with Total Recorder Video Add-on 7.1. Next there would be WVC1 recordings and DVB S2 h.264 TS recordings waiting in the queue.

The Xvid AVI recordings have the following stream properties:
Video properties: 844x476 pixels (cropped 16/9), 30fps
(ffdshow Xvid is I-frame only for frame-accurate editing in VirtualDub)
Audio properties: 16 bit 48 kHz; PCM (Xvid recordings)

A short example "TR_Xvid_Test1.avi" (4084 KB) can be found here (http://rapidshare.com/files/234024064/TR_Xvid_Test1.zip) at RapidShare.

There are loads of infos for how to transcode starting with VOBs from DVDs but not much for my Xvid AVI source footage.

I already made a test with uncropMKV but it seems to dislike my Vista environment and stops almost instantly after input of "TR_Xvid_Test1.avi" without producing the expected mkv which I would like to feed into multiAVCHD. It worked well in freshly installed Windows 7 environment, though. But I would need it running in my Vista where I have all the applications which I need for my hobby.

At some stage of the workflow I would like to enter chapters and maybe get multiAVCHD to provide a main menu and a chapter menu.

I posted my dream list some time ago as feature request for tsMuxeR in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1209930#post1209930.

I hope uncropMKV and multiAVCHD will become milestones on that roadmap.

Regards

Cela

Edit - Now it works! :)

Simple Xvid to multiAVCHD workflow - uncropMKV and multiAVCHD do the job:
1. Feed Xvid.avi into uncropMKV, set Resize to 720 x 480 or 1280 x 720. You will get an ...uncropped.mkv
2. Feed this into multiAVCHD, add the chapters, and there you are! !

If you have problems running these programs in Vista get your codecs straight!
Because I really wanted to make it work, I followed exactly Dean's checklist:
1) Reboot your computer
2) Completely uninstall K-LITE codecs
3) Reboot your computer
4) Completely uninstall AviSynth and Matroska splitter
5) Reboot your computer
6) Try to play any AVI or MKV file
7) If they STILL PLAY - there is a BIG problem because there must be another Directshow filter/codec installed (may play in Nero and PowerDVD which bring their own internal codecs)
8) If nothing plays - go to 9)
9) Download FFDSHOW from the link I posted in uncropMKV thread
10) Install Avisynth and matroska splitter (Haali)
11) Restart
12) Install ffdshow with Avisynth support (and do not enable ANY pre-post processing options)
13) Go to Start/Programs/Avisynth 2.5/Example scripts and try to play Version.avs with Media player Classic or Windows Media Player
14) Try uncropMKV again
(In addition to Dean's checklist I uninstalled MKVToolnix which I had on my computer from earlier tests.)

Now the first milestone of my roadmap is reached.
Next goals will be title menus and chapter menus. ;)

And do not forget do DONATE to keep Dean motivated to carry on with his excellent jobs!

[strad]

multiAVCHD shows at start TsMuxer version 1.10.4
Latest is 1.10.6:
- keep original position of resized sup
- fix resized sup color
- avchd output includes BDJO/JAR/META empty folders for compatibility
- add input command for tsmuxergu

[deank]

I'd ask you not to change the version provided in tools folder. None of these changes affect multiAVCHD processing of subtitles or AVCHD output.

Using different versions makes it harder to detect/correct bugs.

Dean

[strad]

Alright, that´s good to know and the intention was to clear that point.

[drelin]

With 603 build I obtaint windows error message whent i click on title in the edit TAB " No disk (or media) in the reader. Insert a disk in reader D". (D is a DVD-RW reader/writer).
I seen this message in prevouis build if I remember : problem with ".multiTH" folder ?

I've found a solution for this error message.

You wrote :
It is mplayer causing the error... multiAVCHD is looking for the thumbnails - that's why the popup appears.

The error appears if a DVD-ROM drive use a Windows letter location created before a HDD partition letter.
In my case : D letter is selected to DVD-RW drive and the first data HDD partition (other that C Windows) is E.
Just after change in Windows Manager Disk the letter selection to all HDD partitions before the 1st DVD-ROM drive, the error massage not appears and multiavchd works fine.

If other user have the same error, This solution is a good issue.

[deank]

Yes, that's the solution.
Another solution is to have a disc in the DVD drive ;)

[drelin]

To demonstrate the features and possibilities for Custom AVCHD, see the snapshots of menus created with multiavchd.

With other options of navigations and the output supports, you can imagine the big interest to support this software.

XMB Menu with One title and thumbnails chapters acces
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9845/xmbmenuonetitlewithchap.jpg

XMB Menu with some titles
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6370/xmbmenumultititles.jpg

[deank]

When I first created THM menu I was thinking of implementing

. .
X
. .

. .
X . X
. .

. .
X X X
. .

X X
. . .
X X

X X
. X .
X X

X X
X . X
X X

X X
X X X
X X


But it requires too much time... which I put in more useful features. I will see about implementing it.

I'd suggest to you to use XMB when you have less than 7 titles.

Brilliant! Look forward to seeing what you come up with :-)


You got it now in Build 604. :) (Menu preview won't show the actual order but that's not important)

Here is how it looks with 5 titles for example:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_THM.jpg

@drelin: It's better to use some free image hosting, not overload doom9 with picture attachments... and we can't see them until they're approved anyway.

[drelin]

The image source are free of charge normaly.
The shorts movie is open source.
The other images are custom modification of wallpaper proposed free.

I change the hosting source.

[drelin]

What I meant was to upload the sceenshots to a free site :) not as an attachment... Let us see them!

OK :)
And now is better ?

[deank]

These snapshots look really nice :)

Can I use them whenever I need to show XMB styled menu, created with multiAVCHD?

[glowball]

I'm amazed at how fast this program is evolving, great work and to show my gratitude I have sent you my support.
If my condition gets worse I may need it back, make sure to wash it before returning it, thanks.

[deank]

It will be there if you need it back :) in though times.

[drelin]

These snapshots look really nice :)

Can I use them whenever I need to show XMB styled menu, created with multiAVCHD?

Yes of course : )

For tips on multiavchd with multi titles (no chapter) for cosmetic rendering I use value = 0 for opacity of navigation button.
In this case each thumbnail for title correponding on "the button".
This a sample custom menu.

[deank]

Inspired by those screenshots I'm adding an option:

Thumbnail border + size/color to get nice frame around the thumbnails in XMB.

:)

[rendez2k]

Inspired by those screenshots I'm adding an option:

Thumbnail border + size/color to get nice frame around the thumbnails in XMB.

:)

Could a border be used instead of the arrow graphic to show what selected? Maybe a change in colour?

[deank]

Could a border be used instead of the arrow graphic to show what selected? Maybe a change in colour?

No.. sorry... Did you notice my post about Thumbnail menu?

[rendez2k]

No.. sorry... Did you notice my post about Thumbnail menu?

Sorry, I forgot to say it looks great and can't wait to test when I (finally) get home! Is the correct preview something that will be added? Sometimes it nice to see how it will sit on a background (if it covers text/graphics etc).

[deank]

I'll see about that.

[rendez2k]

I'll see about that.

Thanks! Its a shame the US TV season is all but over. It was my biggest use for multiAVCHD. I'll have to find new material to play with now!

[deank]

A new option in Author tab / XMB section:

[x] Frame thumbnails with IG color

If checked, a thin frame will border all thumbnails with IG color set in Menu tab.

[deank]

I should have posted my problem here instead of there:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1284677#post1284677

Here I have the feeling, that Deank's tools could do what I need: For the start I would need an easy transcoding workflow (with tools and sample avs, etc.) for Xvid streams recorded with Total Recorder Video Add-on 7.1. Next there would be WVC1 recordings and DVB S2 h.264 TS recordings waiting in the queue.

The Xvid AVI recordings have the following stream properties:
Video properties: 844x476 pixels (cropped 16/9), 30fps
(ffdshow Xvid is I-frame only for frame-accurate editing in VirtualDub)
Audio properties: 16 bit 48 kHz; PCM (Xvid recordings)

A short example "TR_Xvid_Test1.avi" (4084 KB) can be found here (http://rapidshare.com/files/234024064/TR_Xvid_Test1.zip) at RapidShare.

There are loads of infos for how to transcode starting with VOBs from DVDs but not much for my Xvid AVI source footage.

I already made a test with uncropMKV but it seems to dislike my Vista environment and stops almost instantly after input of "TR_Xvid_Test1.avi" without producing the expected mkv which I would like to feed into multiAVCHD. It worked well in freshly installed Windows 7 environment, though. But I would need it running in my Vista where I have all the applications which I need for my hobby.

At some stage of the workflow I would like to enter chapters and maybe get multiAVCHD to provide a main menu and a chapter menu.

I posted my dream list some time ago as feature request for tsMuxeR in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1209930#post1209930.

I hope uncropMKV and multiAVCHD will become milestones on that roadmap.

Regards

Cela

Edit - Now it works! :)

Simple Xvid to multiAVCHD workflow - uncropMKV and multiAVCHD do the job:
1. Feed Xvid.avi into uncropMKV, set Resize to 720 x 480 or 1280 x 720. You will get an ...uncropped.mkv
2. Feed this into multiAVCHD, add the chapters, and there you are! !

If you have problems running these programs in Vista get your codecs straight!
Because I really wanted to make it work, I followed exactly Dean's checklist:
1) Reboot your computer
2) Completely uninstall K-LITE codecs
3) Reboot your computer
4) Completely uninstall AviSynth and Matroska splitter
5) Reboot your computer
6) Try to play any AVI or MKV file
7) If they STILL PLAY - there is a BIG problem because there must be another Directshow filter/codec installed (may play in Nero and PowerDVD which bring their own internal codecs)
8) If nothing plays - go to 9)
9) Download FFDSHOW from the link I posted in uncropMKV thread
10) Install Avisynth and matroska splitter (Haali)
11) Restart
12) Install ffdshow with Avisynth support (and do not enable ANY pre-post processing options)
13) Go to Start/Programs/Avisynth 2.5/Example scripts and try to play Version.avs with Media player Classic or Windows Media Player
14) Try uncropMKV again
(In addition to Dean's checklist I uninstalled MKVToolnix which I had on my computer from earlier tests.)

Now the first milestone of my roadmap is reached.
Next goals will be title menus and chapter menus. ;)

And do not forget do DONATE to keep Dean motivated to carry on with his excellent jobs!

:) Thanks for posting all this... It took few days but we did it.

[deank]

Option added in Settings tab:

[-] Disable preview in Title properties

Unchecked by default. If checked - no preview will be available in "Title properties". 3x3 preview is still available after confirmation.

Dean

[deank]

Few very important things to note:

1) Playstation3 plays 25fps 1280x544 in 576p (PAL PS3 firmware 2.76) - much better than in 480p
2) tsMuxeR 1.10.x cannot produce subtitles (SRT-SUP) for 1280x xxx @ 25fps - they are not showing at all (in any player).
3) I lost an hour wondering what is wrong
4) Using tsMuxeR 1.9.9 fixed all

I'll revert tsMuxeR in multiAVCHD package to an earlier version until Roman fixes this issue.

The difference between tsmuxer versions 1.9.9 and 1.10.4+ affecting multiAVCHD, is tsmuxer's inability to process .MPL playlists in m2ts join mode (i.e. input from camcodes or in other rare and uncommon cases).

*** Full download is updated with tsMuxeR 1.9.9.
*** If you're not using subtitles you can continue to use latest tsMuxeR versions,
*** but without any support from my side.

******

If anyone decides to post about a problem, please include:

* FULL LOG (with [x] Verbose logging enabled)
* tsMuxeR version
* Build number

Dean

[nwg]

I am getting a error with 604. When I click on a entry in the names editor, I get these two errors. It only happens with DVD folders.

http://www.apah20.dsl.pipex.com/dvd/avchderror.jpg

Program then quits

[zrdb]

Has anyone had problems with Samsung BD players recognising discs with the latest versions?

I like creating 720p/1080p trailers on DVD/BD-RE from downloaded trailers. I convert the trailers to BD format using ripbot then import them into multiavchd for the menu. I did a disc in January the DVD worked fine with a Samsung BDP 1500. I have done another disc on both DVD and BD and now the same player does nothing. I saids menu on the player but nothing on the screen and then it stops the disc.

The strange thing is I tried the same discs in a Sony S350 and they all work.

I have a BD-P2500 and as long as the strict avchd box is checked everything plays with no problems.

[strad]

I am getting a error with 604. When I click on a entry in the names editor, I get these two errors. It only happens with DVD folders. Program then quits
The message refers to a wrong path. I suggest you delete multiAVCHD.ini in the program folder and start again. You only will loose your settings, but it should work.
The best way for me in case of errors always was to do a full download of the last build and start clean.

[jsffm]

My last compilation with build 604 works fine on my Samsung BD-P1600.

strict avchd box is not checked.

[deank]

Did you use DVD or BD disc? Because 'strict' option affects only AVCHD for DVD.

A quick note for 604+:

* Fixed some minor bugs which may cause the error nwg reported
* Added "COLOR" for xmb thumbnail border in XMB section of Author tab.
* Extended support for DVR TRP files - most should work now
* Fixed a problem with multiple AAC/MPEG audio tracks in the same mts/trp/etc.. file - sometimes get overwritten or didn't show.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_author.jpg

Dean

[nwg]

The message refers to a wrong path. I suggest you delete multiAVCHD.ini in the program folder and start again. You only will loose your settings, but it should work.
The best way for me in case of errors always was to do a full download of the last build and start clean.

I did start again and it still did it. The new build solves it.

[deank]

Try to update your multiAVCHD with multiUPDATE.
You can remove your .ini file just to be sure it's not it.

And I hope you're not opening DVD from an optical (read only) disc.

[nwg]

Try to update your multiAVCHD with multiUPDATE.
You can remove your .ini file just to be sure it's not it.

And I hope you're not opening DVD from an optical (read only) disc.

No from a folder but as I said, it didn't work when I started again last night with build 603 (so no old ini file).

I just used the update to get 604+

[HDBytes]

Hi Dean

Any way to have no chapters created at all? For example one has a set of titles in a compilation that all run 3-11 min each but you would not want to have a chapter at 5 min in any of the ones that run more than 5 min. I tried the settting of No Chapters but it still creates chapters for each title.

Thanks

[deank]

Carousel is ready.

@HDbytes: I'll have to add an option for that.