multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[drpaulng]

@deank
Good news. I managed to port my idea from Corel Photo-Paint into .avs script. Here how it looks in MPC :)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6451/avcmenu.th.png (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avcmenu.png)

Link to my work (avs script plus sample files)
http://www.mediafire.com/?d4fzyaznjmx

WHEN will this menu be implemented into multiAVCHD?

[deank]

:devil:

[laserfan]

...when I am faced with re-encoding several individual episodes (to h264 using x264), how I would determine what size to re-encode to, in order to meet an output target e.g. DVD-9 (actually BD-9)? I was thinking perhaps the way to do this might be to import all the "full-sized" episodes, look at the Output size and observe a % oversize, then use that % for each episode to establish a target size for my x264 two-pass re-encoding.

I'll share my method for calcultaing overhead for my DVD9 that include h264, with either DTS, AC3, DTS HD-MA, and TrueHD...
Thanks odin24; this is the kind of practical advice I was looking for.

Wouldn't be easier to use Ripbot for that purpose. I assume that one stream audio is enough for you. My formula is very accurate. Ahh One more thing. Don't forget to leave extra space for multiavchd menues.
In fact while I use custom .CMDs for my encodes, I use RipBot264 exclusively to determine bitrate--extremely accurate, thanks! But the new issue here is overhead for a menu.

I need to install and "get my feet wet".

[deank]

multiAVCHD menu pages are small and their total size can be max. 40 titles x 546kb = ~ 21MBs and if there is a welcome screen or some fade transitions - up to 23MB, so reserving 25MB for multiAVCHD menus should be okay.

[deank]

@deank
Good news. I managed to port my idea from Corel Photo-Paint into .avs script. Here how it looks in MPC :)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6451/avcmenu.th.png (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avcmenu.png)


Thanks, Atak!

I just looked at it and really liked the script. I'll try to make it all work in some of the next builds.

[laserfan]

multiAVCHD menu pages are small and their total size can be max. 40 titles x 546kb = ~ 21MBs and if there is a welcome screen or some fade transitions - up to 23MB, so reserving 25MB for multiAVCHD menus should be okay.Thanks, yes that's a tiny amount of space to reserve for menus!

[glen8]

Thank you Deank for your great job.

I would like to know if the "Panasonic SDHC output" will soon be developed. I have a Panasonic DMP-BD35 Blu-ray disc Player, and if you like I'll be ready to test this fonction.

Thanks again.

get to the back of the queue :)

[deank]

Just a small fix in 483 - filenames won't be converted to lower case when importing in multiAVCHD.

[drpaulng]

Many thanks to the fix of lower case thing.

I have tested with precise chapter points that co-incident with I-frames insertion. Then, I discovered 2 things:
(1)For 1080i videos, the chapter jump delay of (1-3sec) is still un-fixed (player: PS3, both through USB-flash memory and BD-5).
(2)When I re-encode the 10801 videos into 720p videos, the chapter jump delay is all gone.

When I authored with TMPGEnc Authoring Works 4, however high the bitrate with its mpeg2 outputs, no chapter jump delay is seen. Then, I replace the mpeg2.mts with AVC.mts (which breaks the pop-up menu but preserves the proper menu), there is still no chapter jump delay. So, with these observations, I think there must be some subtle differences in the algorithm of handling chapter points during BD authoring that would affect the final playing with PS3. Because I have no other stand-alone BD players at hand, I could not draw definite conclusion on the "black screen" of up to 3sec during chapter search for PS3. At least, I can say, imprecise chapter point assignment has no big effect on 720p videos authored with multiAVCHD.

[deank]

I have tested with precise chapter points that co-incident with I-frames insertion. Then, I discovered...

(1)For 1080i videos, the chapter jump delay of (1-3sec) is still un-fixed.

When I authored with TMPGEnc Authoring Works 4...

It seems that I need to repeat myself again and again.

multiAVCHD is NOT a video encoder and has NO control over I-frames, chapter-entry-points, etc. There is nothing to be fixed in multiAVCHD.

If you have your own AVCHD structure with files, containing proper chapters then it will be okay.

Of course I can completely remove those stupid chapter thumbnais or the whole XMB style menu that gave me so many headaches and complaints from users and then everything will be okay, too.

TMPGEncAW4 always reencodes to mpeg2 and that way it can create anything it likes. Also it is not free and much slower than multiAVCHD interface and processing wise.

I did not create multiAVCHD to compete with or to try mimic any other application and I created it for myself and for fun. I'm putting a lot of energy in it with the limited resources I have (such as time, specifications, etc). After all I think it turned out to be a really helpful application to a lot of people, despite its looks and feels.

Dean

[fsnavi]

For some time I'm transferring old video material (video mpeg2 with Dolby Digital 2/0 audio) to BlueRay Disks.

Since approx. 3 days I'm encountering the following problem: Video and audio are not synchronous any more; after 60 minutes, audio is ahead by some seconds. I do remember of having similar problems with a separate tsmuxer earlier, but never with multiavchd. And I did not change my settings for multiavchd (Keep all audio tracks). The log is showing that an AC3 track is added. Why this and why is the original source file modified at all?


FSNAVI

[deank]

The original source is not modified. multiAVCHD gets information from mediainfo and passes it to tsmuxer.

Did you update to the latest tools? What versions of mediainfo and tsmuxer do you have? The problem could be caused by the new versions of mediainfo/tsmuxer.

Is there a chance to send me the output of mediainfo on one of those problematic m2ts (or mpeg) files?

[drelin]

Hello,

Today, when I start multiAVCHD, I obtaint this error message :
"Incorrect BASS.DLL" => BASS 2.2 required
Have you any idea about this error ? (Bass audio dll ? or dll from .net package or windows) ?

[deank]

I have no such file on my system (vista32). It is not a part of multiAVCHD and has never been. The only DLL required is calclib.dll. Did you install/uninstall applications or change your windows properties? You can redownload the complete Setup again and overwrite your old multiAVCHD folder.

[drpaulng]

It seems that I need to repeat myself again and again.

multiAVCHD is NOT a video encoder and has NO control over I-frames, chapter-entry-points, etc. There is nothing to be fixed in multiAVCHD.

If you have your own AVCHD structure with files, containing proper chapters then it will be okay.

Of course I can completely remove those stupid chapter thumbnais or the whole XMB style menu that gave me so many headaches and complaints from users and then everything will be okay, too.

TMPGEncAW4 always reencodes to mpeg2 and that way it can create anything it likes. Also it is not free and much slower than multiAVCHD interface and processing wise.

I did not create multiAVCHD to compete with or to try mimic any other application and I created it for myself and for fun. I'm putting a lot of energy in it with the limited resources I have (such as time, specifications, etc). After all I think it turned out to be a really helpful application to a lot of people, despite its looks and feels.

Dean

Sorry for my wordings - I mean "unfixed by me" even if I put the chapter table at points co-incident with the I-frames, I still could not get an instant chapter jump but black screen of delay for about 2-3sec with my PS3. (I presume chapter jump needs to be co-incident with I-frame insertion and chapter points not at I-frame position could cause jump delay). For all the trials I made, I could only conclude it might be related to the buffer memory within PS3 for instant chapter jump because 720p videos seem to be all right with those authoring by tsmuxer and multiAVCHD. I assume 720p videos need less buffer memory for decoding. Sorry that I stirred up some unneccessary misunderstanding for Deank. I never think it is a bug of multiAVCHD in the beginning. I need to clarify my logic by stating what I did. We all appreciate so much for you great work that saves lives (from drowning in the deep sea of re-encoding). Cruiosity could kill the cat.

[drelin]

I have no such file on my system (vista32). It is not a part of multiAVCHD and has never been. The only DLL required is calclib.dll. Did you install/uninstall applications or change your windows properties? You can redownload the complete Setup again and overwrite your old multiAVCHD folder.

I've found the solution.
I've shootdown power last day, and a windows file dll have been lost.
This file is Bass.dll (normaly in Windows/system/ folder), I've reinstall the missing file and no error message now.
If another guy encounter same problem one day, you can download this free dll and copy on Windows/system/ folder (not system32).

[fsnavi]

The original source is not modified. multiAVCHD gets information from mediainfo and passes it to tsmuxer.

Did you update to the latest tools? What versions of mediainfo and tsmuxer do you have? The problem could be caused by the new versions of mediainfo/tsmuxer.

Is there a chance to send me the output of mediainfo on one of those problematic m2ts (or mpeg) files?

Problem: asynchronous audio:

I have the latest multiavchd package. I don't know if that uses new versions of mediainfo/tsmuxer & latest avisynth258.

Where can I find the requested output of mediainfo?

My analysis has the following result: The m2ts file is in fact different to the source file. The difference is in the audio, although I requested "keep audio tracks'. I think that by this setting the original Dolby Digital 2/0 audio should have been left unchanged. Obviously, a transcoding (to AC3) was initiated although the box was not checked to do this.


FSNAVI

[deank]

If you have the latest package it means that the tools are also updated.

Yes, the m2ts file will be different because the original is re-processed by tsmuxer, but no audio is re-encoded. If the input file (m2ts) was a part from AVCHD/BD structure it wouldn't have been changed. No files can be added by multiAVCHD if not first passed through tsmuxer. Folders are not processed by tsm.

DolbyDigital Stereo/II/PL and AdvancedCodec3 are one and the same.

You can uncheck 'delete temp files' and check your temp folder for .txt files... something like mediainfo or mi-....txt.

Another thing to try is to REPLACE the tsmuxer.exe in tools folder with an older version: 1.8.18 for example. If you don't have it - here is a link (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tsmuxer.exe).

[fsnavi]

If you have the latest package it means that the tools are also updated.

Yes, the m2ts file will be different because the original is re-processed by tsmuxer, but no audio is re-encoded. If the input file (m2ts) was a part from AVCHD/BD structure it wouldn't have been changed. No files can be added by multiAVCHD if not first passed through tsmuxer. Folders are not processed by tsm.

DolbyDigital Stereo/II/PL and AdvancedCodec3 are one and the same.

You can uncheck 'delete temp files' and check your temp folder for .txt files... something like mediainfo or mi-....txt.

Another thing to try is to REPLACE the tsmuxer.exe in tools folder with an older version: 1.8.8 for example. If you don't have it - i'll send a link.

Here is the requested mediainfo:

General
Complete name : Q:\tmp\cyorkfinal.mpg
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 3.80 GiB
Duration : 53mn 44s
Overall bit rate : 10.1 Mbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 53mn 44s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 9 156 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 9 660 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.883

Audio
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 53mn 44s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Menu
Format : DVD-Video



FSNAVI

[deank]

Okay - this is different. Your input file is MPEG-2(PS) (mpg) not MPEG2(TS) (m2ts). Of course input and output file will differ a lot. I never had success with my mpeg files that I captured from TV, but I always thought that it is because of the MPEG L2 audio.

Try with the older version of tsmuxer or just use tsmuxer alone and see what will happen.

[deank]

has anyone had problems playing the files when outputted to bd the films play just fine but for some reason the menu trys to come on after the films and not before and it only flickers and wont show

For some time I'm transferring old video material (video mpeg2 with Dolby Digital 2/0 audio) to BlueRay Disks. Since approx. 3 days I'm encountering the following problem: Video and audio are not synchronous any more;

REPLACE the tsmuxer.exe in tools folder with an older version: 1.8.18 for example. If you don't have it - here is a link (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tsmuxer.exe).

So - please either re-update your complete multiAVCHD (download the Setup...) or replace tsmuxer with the one in the link above (ver 1.8.18).

[WhatHappend]

My post in tsmuxer thread:


So - please either re-update your complete multiAVCHD (download the Setup...) or replace tsmuxer with the one in the link above (ver 1.8.18).

FYI - New version of tsmuxer

I needed to use 35(b) to process a new BD structure that had lots of seamless branching. When I used 1.8.18 I got lots of re-synchronizing errors on the DTS-MA track (one for each file branch.) The audio and video got progressively more out of sync as the file played back.

The new 35 version of tsmuxer deletes the extra audio overlap parts and made a perfectly synced Video/Audio with no extra steps.

[deank]

Then you can use it... It is user's decision, I won't support nor comment any posts with problems which may arise using it. And if you really knew what 35b does you wouldn't recommend it either.

And I don't see a new version. I'm sorry to be mislead by user who suggested to update the tools to newer versions. You don't "fix" something when it works fine.

[dracore]

i have no idea what im doing wrong but when i try in power dvd the movies play fine but i get no menu at all(im trying to test before wasting any bluray disks)

if someone could help me it would be great

[deank]

Post your log file.
Check if you have [x] Create menu
Check if you have [-] Skip top menu playback

And how come the movie starts and you see no menu?
It is only possible with the "Skip top menu" option.

[dracore]

well i have no idea bud ... im now in the process of burning to a bluray disk to try in my player just incase its the power dvd software

[deank]

Couldn't you burn a DVD-RW for a test with <4GiB content?

What player will you use?

***

All may notice multiAVCHD update without changing build number. It is because of some embedded SSA subtitle fixes that will remove unwanted/unknown tags. Only bold/italic/underline will be translated to srt.

[dracore]

ill be trying on a ps3

so if i burnd to a dvdr it would work the same as bluray disk would?

[deank]

My only mean of testing is first-europe-PAL PS3 (60G) version and for my luck (or misery) it plays everything... I didn't have a single multiAVCHD compilation that won't play as expected (exluding few hundred before I re-invented the hot water "the menu").

[dracore]

well i tryd it on a new 80gig ps3 and it worked perfect...so atleast now i know not to test with powerdvd

i had a big black bar at the bottom of the screen on the film though
will uncropmkv sort that

thanks for your time

[deank]

Yes, uncropMKV will fix it but it will take some time. If the new version of tsmuxer gets the h264 uncrop option - it will be faster.

[dracore]

ok thanks ill give uncropmkv a try:thanks:

[harnarn]

Thanks my friend..for an excellent ap.
Can you somehow implement then you choose XMB thumbnails ..numbers of chapter default is set to i think twelve ( there might be a way to choose but it's eludes me)... If you have eps of a 25min you will have blanks chapters, a couple of totally black and 2 errors can't create in the making process..
Cheers

[deank]

When you import files to multiAVCHD you can set your own chapters.

Example:

test_movie.mkv - this is your video
test_movie.txt - this file contains the chapters in format:

00:00:05.000;00:00:10.500;00:00:15.350

so you can put your chapter marks and restrict thumbnail count

[harnarn]

Thanks my friend..for an excellent ap.
Can you somehow implement then you choose XMB thumbnails ..numbers of chapter default is set to i think twelve ( there might be a way to choose but it's eludes me)... If you have eps of a 25min you will have blanks chapters, a couple of totally black and 2 errors can't create in the making process..
Cheers

Sorry about the question it solved it self by a sheer stroke of luck

[deank]

Build 487:

I added some test support for AAC audio in MKV/MP4/MOV files. Also a small fix for AVC1 videos in MOV/MP4.

Add files/Drag&drop now supports MP4.

AAC audio to AC3 is supported (test).
NB!: you need to have ffmpeg - select path to it in Audio&Sub tab

Dean

[harnarn]

Sorry about the question it solved it self by a sheer stroke of luck

Thanks Deank.. for replay.
And of course if you set TsMuxer to insert 5 min chapter it will solve it self!
Cheers

[deank]

Yes, that's exactly what multiAVCHD does when [x] Add chapters each 5min option is checked and you have no external chapter files.

[dracore]

this may have been asked and answerd before but when..

i put my mp4 files through your app will they play in any bluray player or just in the ps3

sorry if this has been asked before

[deank]

They will if resolution is compliant: at least horizontal size should be 720, 1280, 1440 or 1920.

[harnarn]

Holy Cow ..you are updating as fast as i change underwear:helpful:...
Keep it up

[deank]

Yes, sorry for this ;) but I'm working on MP4/MKV/MOV with AC3 audio and constantly add fixes. A bit later I'll put out build 489 which will include full support for AAC->AC3 in these input files :)

[remolo]

I'm trying to use your very useful tools, but I have a problem with x264.exe. Everytime I run MultiAvchd or uncropMKV, x264.exe crashes and windows gives me the classic message "x264.exe ha smesso di funzionare" (in english: x264.exe has stopped working).
I know x264 is not a your tool, but I hope that you have some idea to solve the problem.
My system:
Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2,40 GHz;
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT;
Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit

Thank you

[deank]

You're the first to report x264 problems.

Can you open a command prompt (Start->Run->cmd-> cd change to multiavchd\tools folder) and start x264.exe?

[remolo]

Can you open a command prompt (Start->Run->cmd-> cd change to multiavchd\tools folder) and start x264.exe?

Yes.
The output is: x264 [error]: No input file. Run x264 --help for a list of options.
I think x264 need some parameter to run.

[deank]

Yes it needs parameters... You can check [x] Show spawned windows in multiAVCHD and try again... See what x264 outputs just before the crash.

[remolo]

After upgrading to last version MultiAVCHD starts saying in the first line of log:
"AviSynth and x264 encoder not working properly!"

[deank]

The warning has been in multiAVCHD since .... like forever :)

Try to re-install Avisynth with the one in the first post. You can also update your ffdshow.

[remolo]

Ok. I'll try and I'll let you know.
Thank you

[rfic]

hi, dean or other users

i already have a few movies coded in AVCHD format, and they're on my USB HDD and works fine with AVCHD manager

say i have folders /movie1, /movie2, ...

after i use multiAVCHD, does it just add /AVCHD to the USB HDD and keep original movie folder untouched, or it has to re-write(code) all movies?

since i keep adding moives to my collection, i want to know how exactly multiAVDHD handle AVCHD format folders

thanks