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pancserzso
19th July 2011, 19:36
Can someone confirm the settings to make a menu-less, infinite-repeating BD-5 from a single video track?

I don't want anything special, just a simple video track, encoded using x264 in 1080p24, and burnt onto a DVD-R that can be played back from most BluRay players in 1080p24.

I know the encoder settings in MeGUI, but I don't know what are the settings needed to make this happen in multiAVCHD.

Can you write a quick list of the important settings for this?

MrVideo
19th July 2011, 20:07
I also have to BDEdit the compiled disk because multiAVCHD always generates a play all list that is started as first play. No matter if I activate the "play all" option in the author section or not.

That is strange. When I was using mAVCHD, it never did that to me. It went to the menu for me.

MrVideo
19th July 2011, 20:12
btw. one question on this matter: Any suggestions of professional BD authoring software that is affordable?

No such thing as "affordable" when it comes to professional authoring software.

I have the need to work with vc-1 codec (to transform older hddvd's into blu-ray media because there is no more active hddvd player) and e-ac3 or dts. I tried a test installation of Sony Vegas Pro 10 - but it can't deal with none of those codec's mentioned above :(

Really, that is strange since the Sony package will author BD and VC-1 is part of the BD spec.

I don't know if Scenarist BD would handle it, but on the other hand this one is not considered as "affordable" within the environment used (for some private authoring stuff only).

Definitely not "affordable."

tawh
20th July 2011, 08:48
I have a digital set top box for my pc that will also play mkv or mpg files (or vob files renamed to mpg ;-) off a hard drive. Unfortunately, as it plays mpg/vobs but not .ifo files, i have to hard encode the subtitles of my dvd rips to mkv or mpg (sd-dvd or hd-dvd in multiAVCHD).

I have tried both of these options and the transcoding with the "hardcode subtitles" option seems to work fine but before the end of the process i get this for both mkv or hd-dvd outputs...

[20:21:36] *** Transcoding successful!

[20:21:36] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:5).
[20:21:36] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 720x576, fps=25.000, ref=3
[20:21:36] Display properties: 1024x576 (AR:1.78)
[20:21:36] Total of 1 tracks found in this file.
[20:21:36] Adding subtitles (dvddump.0.eng.sup) (eng)
[20:21:36] Adding subtitles (dvddump.1.eng.sup) (eng)
[20:21:36] No audio tracks found!
[20:21:36] Creating FILE (MKV/AVC)...
[20:21:39] Failed!

So multiAVCHD is reading the subs fine from the ifo file and has previously processed the audio fine during transcoding but then... something not working.

Anybody out there got any solutions? Thanks!

ps: deanbg's forum seems to have died since the last time i posted there. weird.

Music Fan
20th July 2011, 09:00
Are you sure that your set top box can't play subtitles in MKV container ?
Most of MKV compatible devices can play subtitles in MKV.
You will only have to convert your dvd subtitles to another format (like srt) and mux it in mkv with your mpeg-2 video.
It will allow to avoid a hard encoding of the subtitles.
You can also try the TS container if your set top box accept it.

konran
20th July 2011, 18:59
That is strange. When I was using mAVCHD, it never did that to me. It went to the menu for me.
Yes it returns to the menu - but first it plays the first title which is set as first title and configured to return to menu; in fact this one doesn't return to menu, instead plays the next title which is the main movie and then jumps to the menu. The multiAVCHD option for play all doesn't change that behaviour. So I patch it with BDEdit.

konran
20th July 2011, 19:03
Really, that is strange since the Sony package will author BD and VC-1 is part of the BD spec.
Yes indeed very strange. I'll have a look if the Sony package can be configured. Maybe the problem is that VC-1 and DTS both are configured with ffdshow to get it handled properly with multiAVCHD?!

MrVideo
20th July 2011, 22:33
Yes it returns to the menu - but first it plays the first title which is set as first title and configured to return to menu; in fact this one doesn't return to menu, instead plays the next title which is the main movie and then jumps to the menu. The multiAVCHD option for play all doesn't change that behaviour. So I patch it with BDEdit.

Thanks for the clarification. When I was using mAVCHD, I never have a first play title. Only the main menu.

Let me clarify. I didn't like the menu structure that Dean used. I only used the title menus and even those weren't any better. One person complained that he couldn't read what was there.

I gave up.

calamari
21st July 2011, 07:04
I'm having a Title Menu problem. I have 13 titles, so the 13th title ends up on the 2nd page. When I go to the 2nd page and select that title, it plays title 1 instead of title 13. If I play title 12 and let it finish, it goes to title 13 without a problem. Am I doing something wrong or is there a workaround? The title menu is the only menu I have (no main menu etc). This is for Blu-ray output. I tried looking at it in BDEdit but I couldn't find the title menu (although I dunno what I'm really looking at in that mess). Thanks for any suggestions!

Hate to bump.. but I'm nearing my deadline for the project. I did a hexdump and compared the 93001.m2ts and 93002.m2ts files, but I never got a good feel for what I was looking at. I wasn't sure if those files were just giving me the overlay bitmaps (the squares and such that show where you are as you move around the title menu). I also hexedited index.bdmv, and saw the title numbers there, it looked good to me. I'm not sure I've actually looked in the right place yet. If anyone knows what file would be telling it where to go when a title entry is clicked, that would be a help, because then I could focus on that file. I wish the multiAVCHD source code was available.. :(

Any ideas? Or am I pretty much stuck with a max of 12 titles per disc unless I can work out a binary file miracle?

thghgv
21st July 2011, 17:36
trying to build a similar structure with the menuing facilities in this app but gave up after multiple trys. I too attempted to have a main menu page then use the title for extras material. The main "play" would not play the feature as one would guess and I could not find a place in the app, that would work, to "hard-wire" the feature m2ts to the play button anywhere. Finally gave up on the 2 page approach and went to a single title screen that had all the content on it. However it seems if one has more than 12 pieces of content and you have to try and navigate to the "next" page of titles, you get there the first time only. Trying to navigate BACK to the first 12 is pretty much not doable.

Also re: poster images...
There is a button function to advance to a frame of a title, via the properties screen for that title, and grab a poster image to use in the menus. That simply did not work at all. the only way to get poster images for use in menus is to to screen grabs in another app and save to a 1920/1080 .jpg file and physically point to that file via the manual box for poster images.

I have concluded that this app, for doing menuing type tasks, is pretty worthless. About all it really does well is doing "remake" type editing on BD structures and can be twitchy at that rate sometimes as well. Unless you SAVE your project regularly the app can crash down around you taking all edit and project data along with it.

calamari
21st July 2011, 20:37
trying to build a similar structure with the menuing facilities in this app but gave up after multiple trys. I too attempted to have a main menu page then use the title for extras material. The main "play" would not play the feature as one would guess and I could not find a place in the app, that would work, to "hard-wire" the feature m2ts to the play button anywhere. Finally gave up on the 2 page approach and went to a single title screen that had all the content on it. However it seems if one has more than 12 pieces of content and you have to try and navigate to the "next" page of titles, you get there the first time only. Trying to navigate BACK to the first 12 is pretty much not doable.

Also re: poster images...
There is a button function to advance to a frame of a title, via the properties screen for that title, and grab a poster image to use in the menus. That simply did not work at all. the only way to get poster images for use in menus is to to screen grabs in another app and save to a 1920/1080 .jpg file and physically point to that file via the manual box for poster images.

I have concluded that this app, for doing menuing type tasks, is pretty worthless. About all it really does well is doing "remake" type editing on BD structures and can be twitchy at that rate sometimes as well. Unless you SAVE your project regularly the app can crash down around you taking all edit and project data along with it.

Yeah I noticed the same thing re: poster images, crashing, etc. One thing that helped me avoid crashes was to NEVER click the convenient title links below.. always use the ones at the top. Then, after you do any operation wait at least 10 seconds before doing the next one. And like you say, save often.

MultiAVCHD pretty much violates every rule of what I consider to be good software.. it's closed source, unstable, phones home, begs for money, etc. It gets away with it because it's offered as freeware and is pretty much the only option.. and it happens to work (for the most part). So, I'm definitely glad for it, even though I hope for a free software alternative someday.

I found the default title menu to be rather ugly (and text too small to be legible on an SD TV set).. so I created my own title menu using ffmpeg, yuv4mpeg, x264, and tsMuxer. In case it helps anyone else (this is for Linux, but I'm sure you guys could translate it to Windows somehow), here's how to encode your own title menu:

#!/bin/bash
BITRATE="6000"
NAME="83001"
VIDEO="menu-%02d.png"
ffmpeg -i $VIDEO -y -f rawvideo -r 23.976 -vcodec rawvideo -pix_fmt yuv420p -s 1920x1080 -aspect 16:9 -an vdec.yuv &> $NAME.mlog
cat vdec.yuv | yuv4mpeg -w 1920 -h 1080 -r 24000:1001 -a 1:1 > vdec.y4m
X264OPTS="--fps 24000/1001 --bitrate $BITRATE --preset placebo --bluray-compat --rc-lookahead 120 --vbv-maxrate 11800 --vbv-bufsize 14750 --level 4.1 --keyint 24 --open-gop --slices 4 --colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709 --sar 1:1"
x264 $X264OPTS -o $NAME.264 vdec.y4m &> $NAME.xlog
rm vdec.yuv vdec.y4m

I made 25 symlinks to the 1920x1080 source image, one for each of the 25 frames.. each named menu-01.png, menu-02.png, etc. If you want an animation you'd use different images for the frames of course. After running this, use tsMuxer to mux 83001.264 to 83001.m2ts (adding an audio track did not seem to be necessary). Then, after building your project Blu-ray in multiAVCHD, go to the BDMV/STREAM directory and replace 83001.m2ts with the one you made. Now your new title menu will show up instead!

Keep in mind that this does not change the cursor positions.. so your layout will have to be somewhat similar to the original (and you can't get rid of the useless < > X buttons)... I think the secret to removing those buttons and moving things around is in the 9300*.m2ts files. But, I don't know how those files are structured.

EDIT: While searching around for the Blu-ray spec, I came across page 154 in this thread. That shows a little about how to edit the menus in BDEdit. The key that page doesn't show is in order to edit the menu, you must load the 93001.m2ts file (click Load at the bottom). So, it appears that all the action is in those files after all. BDEdit also has a handy preview (Click Start) where you can try it out. With BDEdit, I think I'll be able to fit everything onto one page, get rid of the bottom buttons, etc. This will be awesome!

EDIT #2: I got it to work! Using BDEdit to understand how things are structured, I used a hex editor to modify the buttons. I replaced the unused button 3 (in page 2) with the commands to load title 13, I removed the bottom < > X buttons, and I also moved the buttons around (X + 200, Y - 100) and changed the navigation. Was a hell of a lot of work and pretty complicated. I've attached the resulting 93001.m2ts for a working 13 title menu. You could expand this up to 16 titles on the menu since buttons 2, 4, and 5 are now available. But I didn't need that so I didn't do it. To use it, build the project like you normally would. After it is done, then replace their 93001.m2ts with this file. Since I moved things around and added a title, you'll have to build a custom 83001.m2ts as I described above. Also attached the image for the menu I made (for positioning).

thghgv
21st July 2011, 22:03
wow looks like you are really testing the crap out this thing.

I have been trying to find an alternative "remake/reauthor" BD app, payware, shareware, freeware, whatever, that will import & work with m2ts files natively, NOT re-encoding them on output, and that also will handle Dolby HD and DTS HD audio the same. I haven't found anything yet that doesn't require selling crack to afford, and then taking 2 years of college courses to work with. Someone suggested TEMPGEnc Authoring Works as a possible alternative, but haven't had a chance to see if there is a trial that I can test with.

data129
22nd July 2011, 06:07
I think this software is outdated eac3to won't convert dts, dts-ma to ac3. it refuses to. Also If i want to put multiple dvds on a bluray disc with no transcoding the video is jurky, if i use transcoding, the video and audio are out of sync.

konran
22nd July 2011, 10:49
Someone suggested TEMPGEnc Authoring Works as a possible alternative, but haven't had a chance to see if there is a trial that I can test with.
Two days ago I had a look at the technical specs for TMPGEnc Authoring 4 which should be the current version. It says that on INPUT most HD contents can be used. Unfortunately there is no DTS audio and no VC-1 as I need. But now the bummer: on OUTPUT if you've chosen Blu-ray it only writes MPEG-2!
That will mean anything you put in as MPEG-4 HD footage has to be down transcoded into MPEG-2 wasting lots of space on a BD. So that one is out of focus.
... and I'm also looking for a tool that is affordable and can make the menu authoring stuff for BD. The rest like muxing and transcoding is no problem.

Music Fan
22nd July 2011, 12:41
@ konran : did you test BDEdit ?
It could maybe help you to modify menus made with MultiAVCHD.
I never tested it but it looks great ;
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/BDedit#features

edit : I just saw above that you already tested it, so I guess this program can't do what you need.

thghgv
22nd July 2011, 17:27
Two days ago I had a look at the technical specs for TMPGEnc Authoring 4 which should be the current version. It says that on INPUT most HD contents can be used. Unfortunately there is no DTS audio and no VC-1 as I need. But now the bummer: on OUTPUT if you've chosen Blu-ray it only writes MPEG-2!
That will mean anything you put in as MPEG-4 HD footage has to be down transcoded into MPEG-2 wasting lots of space on a BD. So that one is out of focus.
... and I'm also looking for a tool that is affordable and can make the menu authoring stuff for BD. The rest like muxing and transcoding is no problem.

hrmm... So it looks as though TMPGEnc is not a solution for my efforts either. Transcoding (video especially) when it's not needed pretty much precludes the whole need for a tool of this sort. Even Encore CS5, which will give total control over menus etc, will transcode the stuff (audio & video) on output which knocks down the quality even though it uses a really good encoder.

I have never been able to make BDedit work to any advantage. Tried the tutorials and the like and still cannot get previews to work or make sense of the work flow of the tool. I guess for now the simple removing of unwanted content from a BD is best accomplished with multiavchd until something better comes along, but if your application is for creating or remaking BD menuing multiAVCHD is quite lacking.

calamari
22nd July 2011, 19:10
With a combo of x264, mencoder, and ffmpeg, you can encode pretty much anything. Definitely takes research and effort tho. When I make something work I keep it documented in a file so next time I have examples to start from. Has helped me a lot.

konran
24th July 2011, 07:33
edit : I just saw above that you already tested it, so I guess this program can't do what you need.
In fact BDEdit can exactly do what I need ... the problem is to handle this tool good enough. A tutorial for BDMV vm opcodes would be very helpful indeed. Unless I don't find one I have to fiddle a lot into it.

Finally I've found a solution to get a first play intro movie in multiAVCHD quite properly (with some test streams for now):

I activated generation of a welcome screen and set the length matching the real intro movie,
then applied the same audio track to the welcome screen as used in the intro movie,
after multiAVCHD compile replaced 80000.m2ts with my real intro movie naming it same...

... unfortunately there is another bug within multiAVCHD which re-encodes my DTS audio stream of the custom welcome screen into AC-3, even if I had configured NOT to encode anything into AC-3 in the subtitle & audio tab.

That is where BDEdit comes into place. There are really some dependencies between playlists and clipinfo. The benefit is that BDEdit corrects the packet length of the intro movie which was replaced. And finally I found it to change the stream type flags for the audio stream which was DD instead of DTS.

Nevertheless there is no seamless branch between welcome screen and the main menu. I think this is high sofisticated work if it's done with BDEdit...

konran
24th July 2011, 07:35
With a combo of x264, mencoder, and ffmpeg, you can encode pretty much anything.
Well, when I have to re-encode something I do this with StaxRip in many cases. It is a frontend to x264, well-documented and works with templates.

tawh
25th July 2011, 11:50
I have a digital set top box for my pc that will also play mkv or mpg files (or vob files renamed to mpg ;-) off a hard drive. Unfortunately, as it plays mpg/vobs but not .ifo files, i have to hard encode the subtitles of my dvd rips to mkv or mpg (sd-dvd or hd-dvd in multiAVCHD).

I have tried both of these options and the transcoding with the "hardcode subtitles" option seems to work fine but before the end of the process i get this for both mkv or hd-dvd outputs...

[20:21:36] *** Transcoding successful!

[20:21:36] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:5).
[20:21:36] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 720x576, fps=25.000, ref=3
[20:21:36] Display properties: 1024x576 (AR:1.78)
[20:21:36] Total of 1 tracks found in this file.
[20:21:36] Adding subtitles (dvddump.0.eng.sup) (eng)
[20:21:36] Adding subtitles (dvddump.1.eng.sup) (eng)
[20:21:36] No audio tracks found!
[20:21:36] Creating FILE (MKV/AVC)...
[20:21:39] Failed!

So multiAVCHD is reading the subs fine from the ifo file and has previously processed the audio fine during transcoding but then... something not working.

Anybody out there got any solutions? Thanks!

ps: deanbg's forum seems to have died since the last time i posted there. weird.

Are you sure that your set top box can't play subtitles in MKV container ?
Most of MKV compatible devices can play subtitles in MKV.
You will only have to convert your dvd subtitles to another format (like srt) and mux it in mkv with your mpeg-2 video.
It will allow to avoid a hard encoding of the subtitles.
You can also try the TS container if your set top box accept it.

Thanks, I will give it a go.

although from my discussions on other topics with the techies of this media player i have my doubts!

konran
25th July 2011, 18:01
I hope for some help on this matter out there...

Now I'm successfully done converting King Kong HDDVD into Blu-ray HDMV format using multiAVCHD ... the main title plays fine, the menu seems to work - but not true, the menu doesn't!

The movie is approx. 3hrs 7min and there were 50 chapter points imported from the original EVO stuff. So that gives 5 chapter menu pages which multiAVCHD generates (on a custom menu, followed the descriptions in deank's forum). Now, the first chapter menu is the ONLY one that really does work (nav. back and forw., exit)!

Issue 1:
The second page navigates forward to itself (page 2) and backward to page 5. The fifth page navigates navigates forward to page 2 and backward to itself (page 5). :confused:

Issue 2:
Chapter menu pages no. three and four can never be seen.

Issue 3:
Chapter pages two and five use the chapter times from chapter page one ... so they are fully useless.

In fact the whole chapter menu is useless in case of having more than one chapter page. :devil:

Any help for this? Might be that BDedit is the only way to come around ... but in this case I don't know how to implement/edit navigational commands etc.

alrjordan
25th July 2011, 20:28
Hello,

I don't know if I'm at the right place here but here I go :

I've uncropped a mkv file with multiAVCHD which went well,
however I have two subtitels(same language) in it.

One I can't put off,the other one can be set on/off in the usual way(using powerdvd)
Can someone help me with this,maybe I did something wrong in the settings?
Uncropping was ok and I also checked the subtitle settings.

kind regards
alr

setarip_old
25th July 2011, 22:58
@alrjordan

Hi!One I can't put off,the other one can be set on/off in the usual way(using powerdvd)Sounds like you inadvertently set the program for "permanent" ("burned" as part of the video) subtitles, as well as adding them as "external"...

alrjordan
26th July 2011, 14:02
Thanks for the quick answer.
I think you mean this setting : "don not hard encode subtitles" in the "title transcode settings" it is always set as "do not hard encode subtitles"(have always checked that)

This is how I import the mkv :
1/add video file
2/then "trancode" option in "media" tab
3/then I get a screen with settings like "avysinth" and "x264"
>>>there I can select the option for " do not hard encode subtitles"
Or am I wrong?
In the "subtitle options" tab I have set the following options "enabled"

1/enable advanced processing
2/bold
3/force display of first subtitle track
4/post process srt/ssa subtitles
5/parse and fix srt/ssa subtitles

or do I have to set something different

Why does it seem that the chapter list has been seen as external subtitle?(according to log)
[15:08:13] Loading original chapters (S:\Cop Out(MKV)\Cop.Out.2010.1080p.remuxed.mkv).
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:00:00.000]: 00 00 00.000
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:06:33.643]: 00 06 33.643
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:10:36.636]: 00 10 36.636
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:14:38.920]: 00 14 38.920
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:17:01.395]: 00 17 01.395
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:22:19.713]: 00 22 19.713
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:25:44.418]: 00 25 44.418
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:29:43.115]: 00 29 43.115
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:33:50.111]: 00 33 50.111
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:36:54.796]: 00 36 54.796
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:40:41.189]: 00 40 41.189
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:43:01.454]: 00 43 01.454
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:46:49.849]: 00 46 49.849
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:49:57.620]: 00 49 57.620
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [00:55:25.864]: 00 55 25.864
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:00:29.501]: 01 00 29.501
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:04:23.693]: 01 04 23.693
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:07:48.356]: 01 07 48.356
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:14:10.654]: 01 14 10.654
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:17:54.962]: 01 17 54.962
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:21:38.268]: 01 21 38.268
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:26:21.468]: 01 26 21.468
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:29:27.779]: 01 29 27.779
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:34:02.345]: 01 34 02.345
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:37:32.972]: 01 37 32.972
[15:08:13] Chapter name at [01:40:43.371]: 01 40 43.371
[15:08:14] Audio track #2 name: [English DTS 1509kbps]
[15:08:14] Subtitle track #3 name: [English]
[15:08:14] Subtitle track #4 name: [Dutch]
[15:08:14] Loading external subtitles: (eng) - Cop.Out.2010.1080p.remuxed.mkv.chapters.eng.srt
[15:08:14] [TRANSCODE]: Title#01 8862 kbps, 1920x800 -> 1920x1080

thanks in advance!

alrjordan
26th July 2011, 21:10
Hello,

I did some tests again and disable "directvobsub" in k-lite codec pack did the trick.(directvobsub did the hardcoded sub indipendent from multiavchd)
However the problem with the external sub is still present.
As I mentioned before,after loading original mkv chapters it gets the wrong extension(srt)instead of "txt,chp or cue" as possible choice in "chapters">>>"browse".
That way the chapterlist(srt)gets recognized as a third subtitle,then you can see the chapter timings as a subtitle in the final result,which is not the intention.

I guess when the extracted chapter list gets the correct extension(txt,chp or cue)it will be recognized as a real chapter list.
Note that in the pgs order list the chapterlist is present.

Can someone confirm this.

kind regards
alr

dror.sharon5
4th August 2011, 22:25
Hallo all!
I have some mkv back ups with True HD sound. I have recently bought a Blu Ray burner and I am using multiAVCHD to author the discs. tsMuxer refuses to recognize the TrueHD tracks, but when I place the source mkv files in to multiAVCHD they are recognized just fine. HOWEVER when I start the process it gets to: "Creating Clip and Playlist Info (tsMuxer)...", and in the bottom process bar it just sais "processing..." all the time, and never stops. My guess is tsMuxer is having problems with the TrueHD sound, because other discs made without TrueHD work just fine...
I've read a bit online, but found no help. Seems tsMuxer has a problem with TrueHD in general some times.
So I tried using ac3to and change the TrueHD to AC3 640Kbps. But then the track was degraded from 7.1 channels to 5.1, which really sucks.
So... How do I do this? For sure there's a way to do it without transcoding the TrueHD or downgrading it to 5.1 AC3...
Any suggestions?

Music Fan
5th August 2011, 09:32
What happens when you open your MKV directly in TSMuxer ? Does it recognize the True HD track ?
If yes, you can make a ts (or m2ts) file and then open it in MultiAVCHD and see if it works.
If no, try to demux your MKV to elementary streams with MKVExtract and remux these streams with TSMuxer in ts (or m2ts).

dror.sharon5
5th August 2011, 19:04
Hi :)
Thanx for the quick response.
tsMuxer doesn't recognize the track. He gives an error messege saying some of the tracks can't be displayed or something, and shows all track but the TrueHD sound.
I demuxed it and remuxed it with MKVExtract, and muxed them back using MKVmerge. No help - tsMuxer still doesn't recognize the track and the mkv is still stuck in multiAVCHD.
Any other suggestions? :\

Music Fan
5th August 2011, 19:19
After demuxing with MKVExtract, did you mux the elementary streams also with TSMuxer or only with MKVMerge ?
If it doesn't work with TSMuxer, there's maybe a header problem with the audio track (or something broken in it), so you could try to cut your MKV (just a few frames or seconds), but you have to find a program which accept this MKV.

dror.sharon5
7th August 2011, 09:08
after demuxing, tsMuxer still didn't recognize the TrueHD track, even while seperated from the rest of the tracks...
As for the eader - I thought there was a way to fix such things, weren't there?

Music Fan
7th August 2011, 11:05
You could maybe try to remove the Dialog normalization with eac3to, it works with ac3 but I don't know if it does with True HD. It could help to make this track recognizable by TSMuxer.
You will have more explanations there ;
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966
Or you could decompress it to PCM (as True HD is lossless, we can consider this operation as a simple decompression) and keep the sound in PCM or encode it in True HD or DTS HD MA. But these encoders aren't free of course.

AGKnotUser
9th August 2011, 21:41
Hi,

I trans-coded two large movies into one set of files to burn to a 25 GB disc. I added motion menus and chapter thumbnails. I used the fit-all button to set the size. What I got was a 30 GB set of files. Is there a method for setting the size of the files when adding motion menus and chapter thumbnails?

Thanks for any answer.

Music Fan
9th August 2011, 22:12
Hi,

I trans-coded two large movies into one set of files to burn to a 25 GB disc. I added motion menus and chapter thumbnails. I used the fit-all button to set the size. What I got was a 30 GB set of files. Is there a method for setting the size of the files when adding motion menus and chapter thumbnails?

Thanks for any answer.
You can use BDRebuilder and MultiAVCHD as I suggested there ;
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1512486#post1512486
and there ;
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1512711#post1512711

AGKnotUser
9th August 2011, 23:15
You can use BDRebuilder and MultiAVCHD as I suggested there ;
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1512486#post1512486
and there ;
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1512711#post1512711

Thanks! Very good suggestion. One question: How do I use the authoring only without encoding? I tried re-author mode but it didn't allow menus. Then I tried "HDD Keep Bit Rate" in the Fit All button, but that ran the encoder again.

Capsbackup
10th August 2011, 06:12
Thanks! Very good suggestion. One question: How do I use the authoring only without encoding? I tried re-author mode but it didn't allow menus. Then I tried "HDD Keep Bit Rate" in the Fit All button, but that ran the encoder again.

Your files need to be Blu-ray/AVCHD compatible to avoid transcoding... 1920x1080, 1280x720, etc.. :cool:

Music Fan
10th August 2011, 08:28
Actually, even weird resolutions are accepted and won't be re-encoded if one don't ask to re-encode, but there is a message which prevents that it may be not accepted by the player.
My Sony player can play files in 960.540 without problem while it's not supposed to be AVCHD compatible.
But this is an exact 16/9 ratio and is the half of 1920.1080 (vertically and horizontally, which equals a resolution four times lower).
With special ratios (neither 4/3 nor 16/9), the image is stretched to 16/9 (or 4/3). In this case, you'd better re-encode it to add black bars.

dror.sharon5
10th August 2011, 15:33
You could maybe try to remove the Dialog normalization with eac3to, it works with ac3 but I don't know if it does with True HD. It could help to make this track recognizable by TSMuxer.

What?
I've opened eac3to gui but I didn't find anything there that removes dialog normalization :(
How is such a thing acomplished?

Music Fan
10th August 2011, 19:44
You can do it with command lines, it's explained there ;
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1512431#post1512431
Very simple actually.
But it may not help you (in this case, decompress True HD in PCM).

AGKnotUser
12th August 2011, 00:36
Your files need to be Blu-ray/AVCHD compatible to avoid transcoding... 1920x1080, 1280x720, etc.. :cool:

They are BD files taken from a BD disc.. How do I avoid transcoding?

Capsbackup
12th August 2011, 03:35
They are BD files taken from a BD disc.. How do I avoid transcoding?

Every time I use BD files from a Blu-ray disc, either by using Re-author mode or Add Video Files, no transcoding takes place. ( As long as I don't select to transcode! ) Menu files will always be transcoded though.
You can check under "Settings" and make sure there is no check mark/selection for "auto set transcode for non-compliant titles".
I also changed, under "Author" tab, Transcode media fit (MiB) to 23500, and the same for Media (m2ts) split at (MiB) 23500.

AGKnotUser
13th August 2011, 02:45
Every time I use BD files from a Blu-ray disc, either by using Re-author mode or Add Video Files, no transcoding takes place. ( As long as I don't select to transcode! ) Menu files will always be transcoded though.
You can check under "Settings" and make sure there is no check mark/selection for "auto set transcode for non-compliant titles".
I also changed, under "Author" tab, Transcode media fit (MiB) to 23500, and the same for Media (m2ts) split at (MiB) 23500.

Thanks! Worked like a charm.

ps3z
17th August 2011, 14:52
hello everyone

i added sup file to blu-ray on multiavchd,subtitles are changing between but not being off,how i could fix that?

please help me if someone know it.



Greetings
Matt

dror.sharon5
17th August 2011, 18:37
ps3z - did your file had to be recropped to 1920x1080?
I had the same issue with a couple of movies with the recropping hard burned the subtitle tracks to the movie for no appearant reason (the settings said not to, but it did anyway).
The only way I found to overcome this was to demux the film, remux without any subtitle tracks (keep the subtitle tracks), then recrop, then use multiAVCHD and add the subtitles as external.

As for my previouse problem - it's getting too complicated for me. I'll just wait for someone to figure out how to make tsMuxer work nicely with TrueHD tracks.

For another issue - I have a vorbid track (commentaries) that I wish to add to a movie. tsMuxer doesn't recognize the track, but multiAVCHD does, as well as mkvmerge, mkvextract, etc.
I made a blu ray disc, the track was there. BUT when multiAVCHD finished, the track didn't appear in the video. The original DTS sound plays fine, but the vorbit track simply isn't there. I tryed different settings, like using the ac3to tab and set it to turn non HD sound to ac3 640, but it didn't work.
Is there a freeware that can turn the vorbid track to an ac3 track? Or any other way to overcome this, I guess?

setarip_old
17th August 2011, 21:19
@dror.sharon5

Hi!
tsMuxer doesn't recognize the track, but multiAVCHD does

Since multiAVCHD uses tsMuxer, I doubt that it's actually "recognizing" the track - just not generating an informational or error message...

ps3z
18th August 2011, 20:12
hello dror.sharon5 subtitles are not hardcoded or forced but its doing like that.like without reason.i couldnt find any solution.it does for sup files but not for srt files etc....

maybe sup maker program does itself,i have to type to developer.


Greetings
ps3z




ps3z - did your file had to be recropped to 1920x1080?
I had the same issue with a couple of movies with the recropping hard burned the subtitle tracks to the movie for no appearant reason (the settings said not to, but it did anyway).
The only way I found to overcome this was to demux the film, remux without any subtitle tracks (keep the subtitle tracks), then recrop, then use multiAVCHD and add the subtitles as external.

As for my previouse problem - it's getting too complicated for me. I'll just wait for someone to figure out how to make tsMuxer work nicely with TrueHD tracks.

For another issue - I have a vorbid track (commentaries) that I wish to add to a movie. tsMuxer doesn't recognize the track, but multiAVCHD does, as well as mkvmerge, mkvextract, etc.
I made a blu ray disc, the track was there. BUT when multiAVCHD finished, the track didn't appear in the video. The original DTS sound plays fine, but the vorbit track simply isn't there. I tryed different settings, like using the ac3to tab and set it to turn non HD sound to ac3 640, but it didn't work.
Is there a freeware that can turn the vorbid track to an ac3 track? Or any other way to overcome this, I guess?

dror.sharon5
19th August 2011, 21:53
@dror.sharon5

Hi!


Since multiAVCHD uses tsMuxer, I doubt that it's actually "recognizing" the track - just not generating an informational or error message...

Except that it shows a VORBID track with 2 channels and even writes that it's commentaries, and has the bit rate samples and everything...

a.k.a.
25th August 2011, 07:12
Dean (and Adub),

Being helped tremendously by Adub's video screencast for multiAVCHD. Thanks a million!

Two problems:

1) As soon as I click "NO" at the "Do you want to re-author?" popup, I'm getting a "Cannot open file" error (Line 55) instead of multiAVCHD starting its search of a BDMV directory for playlists.

2) There is no _LOG folder or file as described in your tutorial (...\_LOG\DATETIME-multiAVCHD.log).

3) Earlier today, before relaunching the program now, I had the playlists loading just fine from the same ISO, but there was no "remove" option once loaded.

Both earlier and now, I'm loading this from a CloneDrive mounted ISO, where the ISO is located on an external drive. The only other tampering I've done is to offload the _TEMP folder to a separate volume from where multiAVCHD is stored, so as not to run out of room. (C is where the exe is installed, D is where _TEMP is, though the folder's empty.) Again, apart from the no "remove" option, there was no trouble doing this earlier.

Let me know what to do next. I might just reinstall (sigh).

bfrqrv
25th August 2011, 10:59
I have a question about 3D.

Can we make Real3d output? i have tested, but the results are always 2D. I think it is not possible, but can someone confirm this for me?

What i do is the following:

I import a BDMV 3d map. I make none specific configuration, only a top menu. Then i output it to PS3. The movie works, but only 2D.

icegue
26th August 2011, 09:48
I created a DVD image and everything worked fine. Since then, everytime I try to start the program it only starts minimized in the task bar and I can't get the program to open its normal window.

The program also doesn't crash because when I just press 'enter' after starting the program I'm asked to choose the file to be opened - it seems that I hit the 'add video files' button. Afterwards I still don't see the program windows although there is no error message.

Can anybody please tell me how to get the program started (showing its window) again?

setarip_old
26th August 2011, 18:24
@icegue

Hi!

Right-click on the "multiAVCHD.exe" file (or Desktop icon, if you have one) and select "Properties".

Set "Run" to "Nomal window".

Click on "OK"