multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[drelin]

Report aobout playback on standalones players :

I've just tested, the AVCHD project made with all actually new options.

On Sony BDP-s350, playback works fine.

On Pioneer BDP-320, Main menu and chapter menu work fine but big problem on SETUP menu only.
The background is displayed but no navigation button is displayed and playback blocks on this stage. No action with remote control is avialable "function is forbigen for this disk" is displayed.
It seems that is difference with SETUP and CHAPTER menu creation process.
Can you check if you'll fix this.

I've tested with some settings for audio menu with / without setup menu transparency and with / without "header labels" text

I think that is not the same problem like as Panasonic player because CHAPTER menu works fine. It's only on SETUP menu.

thank

[Music Fan]

Did you try the pop-up menu on your Pioneer player ?

[drelin]

Detail playback result on Pioneer BDP-320 and Sony BDP-s350
With it, I hope that can help Deank to find exactly the problem.
(2 player use the last firmware avialable 3.41/3.44 for Pioneer and 0.20 for Sony)


On Pioneer :
First playback => Main motion menu
Playback loop and navigation works fine

=> Access to video title, works fine
Pop menu correclty displayed and works fine with access to according menu (tested withe chapter menu access)

=> Access to SETUP menu
Static Background is displayed but no navigation button is displayed and all operations with remote control are blocked
(Operation forbiden by the disc).
The player is totally blocked and open tray is needed to deblock player (STOP button on remote control don't work)

=> Acces to CHAPTER menu
Display and navigation work fine.
Chapter access works and return to Main menu works egally.
When player return to motion main menu, the player display a black screen before play the main menu (2sec during time).



On Sony :

First playback => Main motion menu
Playback loop and navigation works fine

=> Access to video title, works fine
Pop menu correclty displayed and works fine with access to according menu (tested withe chapter menu access)
A delay of 4-5 sec before acces to video ttitle.

=> Access to SETUP menu
Display and navigation work fine (track selections work)
Return to motion main menu works but a delay time of 5-6 sec before playing menu.
During this delay, the player display the SETUP menu (no black screen)

=> Acces to CHAPTER menu
Display and navigation work fine.
Chapter access works and return to Main menu works egally.
Same result that SETUP menu when return on main menu.
(5-6 sec delay before acces to main menu)


If I don't care about delay time acces into menus,
the problem is located with SETUP menu creation.
It's seems different that the chapter menu.

[deank]

Re-download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) the archive and try again in the Pioneer.

[drelin]

Re-download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar) the archive and try again in the Pioneer.

Not work on Pioneer, same problem only with SETUP MENU.
Before access to SETUP menu, a black screen is displayed and background comes with text label but no button or navigation avialable.

:(

[Music Fan]

I tried the last version (given at 12:51) and there are 3 problems ;
-In relaxed mode (because I updated my player and I was wondering if it could play now the out-of-mux menus) :
1)A bug concerning the creation of the menu happened during the authoring ; I clicked on "yes" in the window that appeared at this moment to send you the report of the error
2)Then the authoring continued and I burned the project on dvd : my player couldn't play the disc, though I chose "skip top menu". It used to work a few days ago. I don't if it's due to the new firmware of my player which avoid to play such a disc, even when top menu skipped, or if it's due to the bug of MultiAVCHD.

-In strict mode :
3)I can't go on the chapters button.

[deank]

Not work on Pioneer, same problem only with SETUP MENU.

Re-download and try again... If it doesn't work - I really don't know what else to do. I do hope it will be okay.

I tried the last version (given at 12:51) and there are 3 problems ;
-In relaxed mode (because I updated my player and I was wondering if it could play now the out-of-mux menus) :
1)A bug concerning the creation of the menu happened during the authoring ; I clicked on "yes" in the window that appeared at this moment to send you the report of the error
-In strict mode :
3)I can't go on the chapters button.

1) Try a compilation WITHOUT errors... When 1st menu page fails it defaults to title-list menu...

3) Read my post on the previous page. I said that I'm working on it and there is no navigation to the chapter button.

Dean

[Music Fan]

Ok, but there is so much news these days in this topic, I don't remember everything I read.:o

[deank]

:)

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Something I forgot to mention...

It is now possible to load AviSynth scripts in multiAVCHD (*.avs files). There were some users which wanted this feature, so they can use DG-plugins and CUDA for speeding up some avc/vc-1 processing/transcoding.

Let me know if it works (or not) for you.

Scripts must be VIDEO-ONLY and should not contain "return" command. "last" variable must contain the actual output of your script. Still, if you use 'return' it will work, but it will cancel an eventual processing you might have set in "TRANSCODE" window (like resize/blur/uncrop/soften/sharpen/fps change...).

multiAVCHD is a smart :) program so the few things you'll need to do is to change the encoding profile and bitrate in "TRANSCODE" (if you wish) and to add audio/subtitle tracks + chapters.

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And another note... with this new feature (avisynth scripts) it will be possible to create PICTURE-SLIDESHOW when you import a folder with .JPG/.BMP files. :) I'll add it a bit later... In short: drag a folder with jpg files - a prompt will appear to ask for STILL duration of each picture and whether to resize it to 1920x1080 or keep it's original size (if smaller than 1920x1080) and to randomize the preview order... Probably an option for 'transition' effects, too :) Of course you can add audio track to the slideshow in title-properties. Cool, eh...

Dean
;)

[Music Fan]

Try a compilation WITHOUT errors...
I tried again, and my player cannot play anymore the disc authored in relaxed mode though I checked skip top menu.
It's probably linked to the new firmware.:rolleyes:
Anyway, it's not important because I could not read the menus of such disks (out-of-mux).

[rendez2k]

Great work on the new features! Most interested in the CUDA scripts. Can anyone point me in the right direction on this? A sample script maybe?

[Dolsen]

Hello,

I have a wmv video clip that is "Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile" and contains (info from MediaInfo):

video stream = 9 125 Kbps, 1920*816 (2.35:1) at 25.000 fps, VC-1 (Microsoft) (AP@L3)
audio stream = 384 Kbps, 48.0 KHz, 6 channels, WMA (Pro)

I extracted the video stream with ASF2VC1.exe, and got a .VC1 file.
Also extracted and converted the audio stream to AC3 6 channels file, 640 Kbps.

Then I used tsMuxer to mix VC1 & AC3 files into a .m2ts file. This m2ts file is playable with my Playstation3 both as .m2ts file and as a AVCHD folder (created with tsmuxer) on a usb-stick. MediaInfo gives same videostream info as above, and audiostream info is now AC3 as it should.

Adding this file in multiAVCHD and it tells me the file is not a proper 1920x1080 sized video. That's no problem for me, as my PS3 plays it with no errors.

- If I open Properties, no preview is made. And it says "Video: V_MS/VFW/WVC1". Resolution,duration and fps is correctly identified. The only wrong issue is in Audio, there is listed an unknown external audio, which is not true, and I remove that line in Audio.

- If I open Transcode I don't get a preview, but a message "transcode might not work if you see this message".

- Doing a Main menu preview will not show a menu preview at all, and no errors pops up.

- Rendering a AVCHD folder for Playstation3 makes this error in log "Failed to extract title thumbnail for title".
Also it says it will create chapter thumbnails, but all thumbs are black, but no errors in log. And finally I get this error, but the creation goes all the way to finished. But this AVCHD folder won't work with Playstation3.
[21:24:35] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2].
[21:24:45] Cannot detect file size: (G:\_TEMP_multiAVCHD\multiTEMP-20100213\20100213-210849-MM002.264)
[21:24:45] Cannot detect file size: (G:\_TEMP_multiAVCHD\multiTEMP-20100213\20100213-210849-MM002.264)
[21:24:45] Error encoding main menu page #2!
[21:25:56] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[21:26:07] Encoding motion XMB menu page [2/2]: Setup page (audio/subtitle).
[21:26:13] Cannot detect file size: (G:\_TEMP_multiAVCHD\multiTEMP-20100213\20100213-210849-AS002.264)

All this tells me I have something missing in my directshow setup on my Windows system, I hope...????

Could someone give me some tips how to solve this, so my m2ts file with VC1 will work with multiAVCHD?

I don't want to re-encode to H.264, but use the unmodified VC1 file. If there is no other solutions possible then re-encode I just have to accept it :)

Thanks, bye...
Dolsen

[deank]

Search the forum for enabling VC-1 in directshow (ffdshow for example).

[Dolsen]

Search the forum for enabling VC-1 in directshow (ffdshow for example).

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..snip...

Dean :)

I have tried searching, but I get so much hits with posts not having anything with this... doing a search with "enable vc-1 directshow" will search on all three words seperatly, and not together.

I have Halli splitter and ffdshow installed, and in ffdshow I have in "Codecs" enabled VC-1 with "libavcodec". Also tried with "wmv9". But neither makes my m2ts file with VC-1 videostream work inside multiAVCHD.

No quick tips?


Thanks, bye...
Dolsen

[deank]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

[Music Fan]

Adding this file in multiAVCHD and it tells me the file is not a proper 1920x1080 sized video. That's no problem for me, as my PS3 plays it with no errors.

I don't want to re-encode to H.264, but use the unmodified VC1 file. If there is no other solutions possible then re-encode I just have to accept it :)
Normally, you can't put this resolution on an AVCHD. Even if MultiAVCHD accept it, I believe that the PS3 will add a green (or black) bar at the bottom of the video, which means that the 816 lines won't be centered.
It works in m2ts but not with AVCHD because it's different for the PS3.
I don't have PS3 but I read it many times.
On my Panasonic player, this kind of resolution is stretched to hit 1080 lines, which is horrible.
That's the problem of not compliant resolutions on AVCHD if you don't want to re-encode.
You could maybe try to export an extract of this video (if you know how to cut it) with TSMuxer in AVCHD mode, burn it on dvd and play it on the PS3 to see what happens.
Or you do that with MultiAVCHD without menus nor transcoding.

[deank]

Okay, so the PiCTURE SLIDE-SHOW is now available. Drag a folder which contains some JPG/BMP/PNG files (subfolders are scanned, too) and you'll get a prompt if you want to create slide-show title. Set its properties and you're done... :) Name of the title will be automatically set to "Picture slideshow (XX pictures)" with XX=the number of pictures you imported. The more pictures you import the harder it will be for your PC to process the avisynth script. Usually 100-200 pictures is okay... In the log you'll see how each picture is resized and placed in the output plane (1920x1080 / 1280x720 / 720x480).

There was a bug if user uses default 'black' background but it should be okay now.

Chapter are not set at each picture, but I may add it later.


http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_pss_0.jpg

(I couldn't stand it ;) - to test with pictures of the birthday present I made myself few months ago - 7er) :)
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_pss_2.jpg

(and the old 5er)
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_pss_1.jpg

Dean :)

[DLynch]

Okay, so the PiCTURE SLIDE-SHOW is now available.

(I couldn't stand it ;) - to test with pictures of the birthday present I made myself few months ago - 7er) :)




Very nice! The slideshow is pretty cool also!;)

[deank]

I just added [slide right-to-left] transition effect. It is the same as in the Playstation3 image gallery and looks pretty cool :)

Transitions are:

[random] - randomly selected transition
[none] - images are shown with no transtiions
[fade-in / fade-out] - fade is applied when displaying next picture
[fade-out] - fade is applied only at the end of the currently displayed picture (same as the trailer-cut style for motion menu)
[slide right-to-left] - slide effect with animated transition for each picture... sliding from the right part of the screen to the center and then sliding out to the left (with opacity fade in/out).

Dean

[drelin]

Hello, Deank

Good new :)

With the 2st build modified the SETUP works on PIONEER.
I don't know what you had modified but it work on Pioneer and also on Sony.
If you can, I'm interested to understand what the modifications you made.


Just a little "bug" only in Pioneer, When access on SETUP the 1st button is displayed (according to the 1st track audio).

If I navigate to the right button (subtitle OFF), navigation works fine; but if I move directly to down button (2sd audio track) the button is not displayed.
If I move a second time to a nother button (right, up or down) the next button selected is displayed correctly and after the navigation works normally (the hiden button is displayed and avialable)

If I move to the right button (3th buuton) before go to the 2sd button, navigation works normally.
The 2sd hidden button effect is only I move directly on this button.

I hope that my explanation is clear. Is not esay to illustrate this.
See if you can find a issue for this.

N.B :
few notes about difference navigation reactions into Pioneer and sony player for information to everybody.
On Pioneer some access (main menu to SEUTP menu or Chapter menu return to main menu) produce a black screen with 1-2 sec'max) delay time.
On sony the same access not produce black screen but the return CHAPTERmenu or SETUP menu to main menu produce a 5-6 sec time delay.

Thank Deank





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[deank]

It is not easy to explain what I changed, because it is program fragments in the navigation .m2ts files. Although it looks so simple, the programming behind these buttons in all pages (chapters/main/setup) is extremely difficult and I have only a HEX editor as an instrument... it is like looking at the 'Matrix" already) :)

Since it is working now (as I hoped) I'll add some more code to eliminate the problems Pioneer has with multiAVCHD menus. The issue you have with the other buttons is related to the problem before, but at least it doesn't cause lock-up of the player.

It seems that the Pioneer is a very STRICT player :) but since I know what bugs it off I can fix it.

I'll let you know about the fix later.

Thanks for taking the time to test, drelin!

Dean

[Dolsen]

Hello again,

Can someone test if they get TS Download: "VC-1 Cheese Slicies" (http://drop.io/hidden/mbrbkguvrfoufa/asset/c2xpY2llcy12Yy0xLW50c2MtMTA4MGktMjktOTctemlw) TS (54MB) NTSC 1920x1080 interlaced 29.97fps file to work in multiAVCHD?

My own file, M2TS 1920x816 25.00fps was also interlaced, as I have figured out. And doing some reading there could be problems with interlaced VC1.

With the help of GraphStudio I can see what's going on when I drop my VC1 .m2ts on it, it's splitted with Halli Media Splitter, but it only splits audio, no video. And this tells me why multiAVCHD fails, as it can't get video data to work with.

After manually create a graph in GraphStudio I'm able to play same file correctly, using "MPC - Mpeg Source (Gabest) / MpegSplitter.ax" as splitter, as it returns audio and video.

I can also do the same manual graph in GraphStudio using VC1 .ts file from the above weblink, and I get audio and video.

At least I think I have figured out the problem is with who does the splitting, it has to be Halli Media Splitter? If I only could put "MpegSplitter.ax" with higher priority to override Halli Media Splitter, but trying that within GraphStudio or GSpot only tells me "Fails to update merit value", and it's stuck on "unlikely merit".

Also, if I muxed the videostream VC1 and audiostream AC3 in a MKV container, multiAVCHD and Windows Media Player can play correctly the MKV file.


At least I have some more clues, but still no solve why I can not play my M2TS with VC1 (interlaced)...

Any suggestions?


Thanks, bye
Dolsen

[Music Fan]

why I can not play my M2TS with VC1 (interlaced)
You said yesterday that you could play it in m2ts.
I guess you mean you can't when it's in an AVCHD structure.
I have the same problem on my Panasonic player and I read several times that VC1 was problematic on AVCHD. I don't know if anyone has managed to do so.
I'm downloading your file.

[Music Fan]

I tested it on AVCHD and my Panasonic BD35 can't play it, as I expected.
My player is weird because he recognizes well the codec : when I click on display, I see "VC1", but he can't launch the video.
But I can't even play your file on my pc though I can read another VC1 file. And this codec is activated in ffdshow.
When I play yours with MPC, the image is black and there's no sound.
Did you cut it on keyframes ?

[Dolsen]

You said yesterday that you could play it in m2ts.
I guess you mean you can't when it's in an AVCHD structure.
I have the same problem on my Panasonic player and I read several times that VC1 was problematic on AVCHD. I don't know if anyone has managed to do so.
I'm downloading your file.

I tested it on AVCHD and my Panasonic BD35 can't play it, as I expected.
My player is weird because he recognizes well the codec : when I click on display, I see "VC1", but he can't launch the video.
But I can't even play your file on my pc though I can read another VC1 file. And this codec is activated in ffdshow.
When I play yours with MPC, the image is black and there's no sound.
Did you cut it on keyframes ?

Thanks for taking your time to test file from the weblink. I have done so much testing, I have lost track of what does work and what does not work, but I did some quick test now, and creating M2TS file from tsmuxer with the weblinked file will not play on my PS3. Making a AVCHD folder with tsmuxer will make my PS3 play it from an USB-stick perfectly.

I tested again with my 1920x816 interlaced PAL M2TS-VC1, and it will not play on my PS3 . I then made an AVCHD folder with my PAL M2TS-VC1 file, and it played on my PS3, but I got green border below as you told earlier...?! I'm so sure both worked before.... Oh well... sigh, my head is spinning. My fault, sorry... :confused:

You said you could not play that weblinked file on your computer, so you have same "problem" as I have. It's not my file, it's from someone else in some other webforums (here is direct link to the post) (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16956445#post16956445). But you can make it play, if you do the following:


Use tsmuxer to demux the weblinked file, you get a VC1 videostream and AC3 audiostream (it's silenced anyway).
In the tool MKVExtractGUI-1.6.4.1, is a MKV muxing tool, "mmg.exe". Start it, and drag and drop VC1 & AC3 files onto its window, it will properly detect both streams with correct structures. Do the muxing.
Now you should have a MKV file with VC1&AC3 that you can play in Windows Media Player or other players that uses directshow, like multiAVCHD.
I'm no expert, but this tells me halli media splitter can not work with a M2TS/TS container that has interlaced VC1 videostream. Because when exactly the same VC1 videostream added inside a MKV container does play correct with halli media splitter doing the splitting...! :confused:


Earlier I said if I made MKV of my M2TS-VC1 interlaced PAL file, it worked correctly inside multiAVCHD. I was too quick to say that, it really does work correct when doing all editing inside multiAVCHD and doing previews. But when rendering the AVCHD folder, it will not work, simply because multiAVCHD de-mux it back to M2TS which will not work, so I'm back at square one.

I have given up on trying to avoid re-encode my VC1 videostream, and have now re-encoded it with unCropMKV and made a proper 1920x1080 H.264 M2TS file to use in multiAVCHD.

Unless someone else don't have some ideas, I will not investigate into this any futher...


Thanks, bye..
Dolsen

[deank]

Hello, Deank

With the 2st build modified the SETUP works on PIONEER.

I fixed the other issue you had with the PIONEER, so re-download the archive and give it a try.

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@Dolsen: I really can't understand what are you trying to accomplish. VC-1 is NOT supported in standard-video-player (file mode) from the XMB menu in the Playstation 3. The only way to get it working is by playing it from within a complete AVCHD/Blu-ray structure (clicking "X" on the AVCHD icon). The same thing goes for DTS and TrueHD audio - both are not supported in file-mode - only with AVCHD/Blu-ray structures.

[Music Fan]

But you can make it play, if you do the following
I tried it but I still have a black image in MPC and VLC says he hasn't the filter to read it.

It's not my file, it's from someone else in some other webforums
He also gave it in H264 ;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1157287

[Dolsen]

I fixed the other issue you had with the PIONEER, so re-download the archive and give it a try.

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@Dolsen: I really can't understand what are you trying to accomplish. VC-1 is NOT supported in standard-video-player (file mode) from the XMB menu in the Playstation 3. The only way to get it working is by playing it from within a complete AVCHD/Blu-ray structure (clicking "X" on the AVCHD icon). The same thing goes for DTS and TrueHD audio - both are not supported in file-mode - only with AVCHD/Blu-ray structures.

My goal is not to have a single playable M2TS file, because playing such a file on PS3 will not make use of the FPS inside the movie, e.x. a 23,976fps M2TS will not be played with 1080p24. Only through an AVCHD structure will I get true FPS playback. So yes, I want to put VC-1 inside an AVCHD structure.

I think i have done some progress now, I uninstalled my Haali build from 19.12.2009, and because of bugs inside that Haali package, I had to manually unregister all 6 haali filters from within GraphStudio (running as administrator). And then I installed this version of Haali "MatroskaSplitter110109.exe" v1.9.42.1.

And guess what??? Now my problem with not manage to play my 1920x816 interlaced PAL M2TS-VC1 inside Windows Media Player is gone - WMPlayer accepts and play the video. Also GraphStudio shows correct splitting of audio and video stream using Haali media splitter. I have really done some progress! :)

Now I can create an AVCHD structure with multiAVCHD without errors in the log. And the AVCHD structure plays perfectly on my PS3, without green border below the 1920x816 video. But there are visual glitches in the motion background and chapter thumbnails, se below.

New problem:
Now multiAVCHD generates some blockiness-errors/glitches in the motion background and in the preview in Properties/Transcode and in generated chapter thumbnails, but only in some shadow-parts of the video. WindowsMediaPlayer/MKplayer/GraphStudio plays the same M2TS-VC1 with no such visual blockiness here and there... I have to look into that...

Until then, bye...
Dolsen

[Dolsen]

I tried it but I still have a black image in MPC and VLC says he hasn't the filter to read it.

I tried the muxed MKV in VLC, and it plays about 4seconds and stops updating stream, the timeline goes as normal. I don't know why this is problem in VLC. I tried KMPlayer and it played the muxed MKV correctly.

But since I could not use a muxed MKV of my M2TS-VC1 file in multiAVCHD, I have no need to get this MKV working correctly in other programs, since my goal is an AVCHD structure to play on my PS3.

He also gave it in H264 ;
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1157287

That's correct, but H264 is no problems, it's when the videostream is VC-1 (interlaced?)...

Bye,
Dolsen

[deank]

Please stop flooding the thread with problems about CODECS, SPLITTERS or other things like this. This is a forum for multiAVCHD and its primary function is to AUTHOR not to reencode. Post in a different thread/forum, not here please.

Dean

[Dolsen]

Please stop flooding the thread with problems about CODECS, SPLITTERS or other things like this. This is a forum for multiAVCHD and its primary function is to AUTHOR not to reencode. Post in a different thread/forum, not here please.

Dean

Sorry about all the posts, but just as you said, multiAVCHD main work is to author, which is exactly my goal, I didn't want to re-encode the problem file, just collect it easy inside an AVCHD structure that worked flawless. Here is a link to a clip from the problem video = filetest vc-1.zip (http://www.sendspace.com/file/87pcu7)

Please just try to work with that file in multiAVCHD (with Haali v1.9.42.1, newer versions are non-working with M2TS_VC1 files) and you will notice the blockiness in preview/motion backgrounds/chapter thumbnails. As far I can see, it has to be some problems related somewhere between multiAVCHD <-> avisynth scripts generated.

If I activate "Do not apply trailer cuts to BG video (use as is)", then motion background is perfect, but static background used in setup/chapters is very blockiness. If I deactivate "Do not apply trailer cuts to BG video (use as is)" then I get perfect static background in setup/chapter but motion background has blockiness. Both time chapter and static title thumbnails are displayed with blockiness inside.

I will not address the issue any more, sorry if I got a little carried away, since I wrote a post public about a problem, I just wanted to inform what I did to solve the problem in return.

Thanks for your time, bye...
Dolsen

[deank]

In the support forum there is a download section (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17) which explicitly directs to the proper versions of avisynth/haali/ffdshow.

[Dolsen]

In the support forum there is a download section (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17) which explicitly directs to the proper versions of avisynth/haali/ffdshow.

Thanks, I did a look into that. I had exactly the same avisynth and haali installed. But my ffdshow was newer, so I uninstalled it, and installed ffdshow from above webpage. And did a reboot.

Dropped the M2TS_VC1 file onto GraphStudio so I could confirm file was splitted with haali and audio/video decoded with ffdshow.

But the same blockiness issues still happends with multiAVCHD as in my previous post...


At least I now have the preferred directshow settings your program wants.


Thanks, bye...
Dolsen

[drelin]

I fixed the other issue you had with the PIONEER, so re-download the archive and give it a try.

Hello,
I report the playback on PIONEER with the lastest version :

And Very Good new, all playback works fine.
Access to SETUP menu and navigation work fine.

Actually : all menus, tracks selection, resume function, Pop menu and of course playback work with "bug" on Pioneer and Sony standalone player.

Very good job. :) :)


The last test I've not made yet is a complete project with long time title video.
(specially for multi page chapter generation).

I'll produce a complete project on AVCHD (burned on DVD) and another on BDVM (burned on BDR); I'll test these project and report playback results.

If you need some other tests, tell me ;)

[deank]

Thanks, drelin. Good news indeed. :) So I guess not too many things left before the official release.

It is good that all menu pages and sub-pages + the pop-up work. I'll need to finish the old-style static menus for AVCHD strict mode and then I can continue with fixing the known bugs (like pictures for the thumbnails and some other minor things).

Dean

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There is something else you can try... Check if you have click-sounds when you move the navigation boxes through the menu (in Blu-ray mode). You can also try [PLAYSTATION 3] output and then rename the files to long format (from 8.3) (with AVCHD Manager) and write a disc to test in the Pioneer and the Sony. There must be AUXDATA folder in the output + sound.bdmv file in it.

[Music Fan]

Actually : all menus, tracks selection, resume function, Pop menu and of course playback work with "bug" on Pioneer and Sony standalone player.

Very good job. :) :)
I guess you meant without bug ! ;)

[drelin]

There is something else you can try... Check if you have click-sounds when you move the navigation boxes through the menu (in Blu-ray mode). You can also try [PLAYSTATION 3] output and then rename the files to long format (from 8.3) (with AVCHD Manager) and write a disc to test in the Pioneer and the Sony. There must be AUXDATA folder in the output + sound.bdmv file in it.

Test with BLURAY OUTPUT burned on :

1- DVD-R
On Sony player, disc detected as AVCHD run without "click-sound".

On Pioneer player, disc detected as AVCHD run with "click-sound"


2- BD-RE
On Sony and Pioneer, disc run with "click-sound".


About sound volume and detail in menus on both player :
- Volume sound is very light with comparison to audio background (in main menu).
I think that you may up the volume.
- On CHAPTER menu, the 3 last buttons (< / > / X) not produce click sound ?
- On SETUP menu, all buttons work with sound.



For test with PS3 output and rename with AVCHD Manager, I need to understand.
If I use AVCHDME to rename files to 8.3 format, the tool display a message that files are allready to the 8.3 files standard and no rename is necessary.
What I do exactly ? Make avchdme reduce (to desactivate 8.3 format) ?

I've made a quick test with 8.3 files format activated on DVD-R disc.
The both player can run the disc and display "Unknow disc, disc can't be played"

[deank]

About the PS3 output:

It is created in 8.3 format that's why you need to use the button "AVCHDme-undo" - it will convert the files back to long-names. Then you burn the BDMV folder only. :)

Dean

[deank]

A quick update:

* Option to resize pictures for picture-slide-show to 16:9 to fit screen
* There is a preview while generating the menu for SETUP pages
* There is sound for all buttons in all pages (in selected modes)
* A fix for imported tsMuxeR compilations which do not contain properly set language tags (causing multiAVCHD to crash)
* SLIDE menu can get rid of the bottom gray bar when 'no reflections' is used
* Option to split pictures for slide-show in different titles

Dean

[drelin]

About the PS3 output:

It is created in 8.3 format that's why you need to use the button "AVCHDme-undo" - it will convert the files back to long-names. Then you burn the BDMV folder only. :)

Dean

Ok, that I've supposed but not sure. :)

With addition to previous tests, I'll test with "avchdme-undo" on DVD-R and BD-RE support after working day and will report.

[zoner]

hi deank,
i'd like to report a problem with hidden titles, when using it, i get everytime an array out of bounds error and program quits while it works when i turn it off.
just to summerize, i made a backup blu-ray and tried to hide the mailn movie while jumping straight to it and having all the extras in the menu, while the structure has 13 titles it only got to make 12 menu pages(i think)
and it still goes for number 13 and then it callepses.

btw, i took the original menu m2ts and used it as audio and video,put the thumbnals in xmb mode on the left and it looks amazing...i really awe your skills :)

[deank]

Can you tell me the exact error.. There is always "Line: XXXXX" - it will help me. I tried to clean all about the hidden titles, but there may be something left.

Can you post a screenshot of your menu? :)

Dean

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In the last update chapter thumbnails are displayed in sequence (like the title list menu)... Just a small effect to make the menu not so static :)

[zoner]

i was finally able to replicate the problem
(RT)Invalid Array index (2) Valid Range (1-1) - Line 9133
:)
i'll up a screenshot later
cheers

[deank]

I'll try to replicate it too.. because I added some things and now the source has different line numbers...

I added two more transition effects for the picture slideshow...

slide to center
diagonal+vertical

Dean

[drelin]

I've finished playback test with PS3 output with "AVHCDme reduce" for 8.3 file format.

1- DVD-R
On Sony player, disc run without "click-sound". (Like as previuos test)

On Pioneer player, disc run with "click-sound"


2- BD-RE
On Sony and Pioneer, disc run with "click-sound".

The sound is yet little small compare to audio background.
With SETUP and CHAPTER menu (withour background audio), it's more easy to hear the sound but I think that volume must be updated.
It's a detail not very important and maybe subjective for my idea.

The new 'transition" effect for CHAPTER menu worksfine on both player.

See after next features :)

[deank]

The 'default' audio (excerpt from unpublished LP of Infected Mushroom / Doors) has audio lowered to 20% of the original volume. Unlike your test clip which has 100% audio volume, the default audio aimed not to be so audible but be a simple background and is as soft as possible.

You can soften the volume of your BG audio to get the clicks more audible.

I can add an option to decrease the volume of 'user audio', but then it will always be converted to AC3.

Dean

*** Good to know that the chapter-"transition"/animation looks fine, too :)

[zoner]

hi
two more small issues:
1. Skip Top Menu playback wont do its job, i still got menu first
2. the tsmuxer bug when it wont proccess srt starting with 00:00:00.000 is back and i had to change the first line

cheers

[deank]

1) It is fixed now

2) Do you have [x] Parse and fix SRT/SSA subtitle files option enabled? If you do, you'll see a line in the log:

[10:52:34] Modifying subtitle file (file.srt)


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Hidden titles should now work, too.

Dean

[deank]

There was a very serious bug, caused by the inability of multiAVCHD's compiler program (CalcIt) to handle some simple arithmetic operations with values >1048576 which may cause wrong processing of large playlists (>64KB) thus leading to broken output both in normal and re-author modes. Basically a HEX value of 0x05301020 will get wrongly calculated to 0x00301020 or even worse to 0x00001020 - bad... really bad :)

It also may have affected importing playlists from camcoders with large scene/shoot collection in a single mpls file and re-processing of large clipinfo .clpi files. Possibly it could've broken some large .MOI index files in SD_VIDEO MPEG2 output modes for Panasonic and Viera TVs.

It is all fixed now in 730RC (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/multiAVCHD_730RC.rar).

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Two separate settings for navigation color and opacity are available now - one for MAIN and TITLE LIST menus and one for CHAPTER and SETUP menus.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu_general.jpg

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Also, if you load a file, which contains NAMED chapters (you'll see that in the LOG), chapter marks will be converted to SRT file (each chapter with 8 seconds duration with 2 seconds start offset) and will be saved in the folder of your video (as video_name.ext.chapters.eng.srt), then auto-loaded as external subtitles. :)


[16:38:06] multiAVCHD.dat version: [03010730]
[16:38:25] Loading original chapters (D:\__TEST\The Matrix 480p.mkv).
[16:38:25] Chapter name at [00:00:00.000]: Morpheus/Neo Matchup
[16:38:25] Loading external subtitles: (bul) - The Matrix 480p.bul.srt
[16:38:25] Loading external subtitles: (eng) - The Matrix 480p.mkv.chapters.eng.srt

and you get the .srt file:


1
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:10,000
Morpheus/Neo Matchup



Dean

[zoner]

awsome! :)