multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD

[herrde]

The strange thing is that if tsmuxer's "AVCHD disc" mode is used, the output is still not USB-compliant, at least not with the PS3 as long file names (non-8.3) are used... even though they say in the release notes "use this mode when using a USB device".

You still have to run it through a tool like AVCHDme or similar in order to make it playable on a PS3. Therefore, I wonder what the difference between tsmuxer's "Blu-ray disc" and "AVCHD disc" mode actually is...

Can anybody shed some light on this?

Best,

Gero

[deank]

Did you read few posts back?

And yes tsmuxer produces - "AVCHD disc" - not USB/SD output. It's up to the user to decide what to do with the files - burn to dvd/bd or rename to 8.3 and transfer to solid-state media.

[turbojet]

I do think --avchd should be coded to be used only for usb devices but it's changed into the new --blu-ray if that makes any sense.

I'm not exactly sure when they changed --blu-ray between 1.8.35 and 1.9.4 but in the past few days there hasn't been any reports of it working on SAP's there has been some failures though. As far as I know it went through this change to solve vc-1 playback on panasonic players, which isn't a common situation and could be solved by other means actually the header change on the newly fixed mpls/clpi might just do it.

AVCHD disk might be technically more accurate, but in it's current state it hasnt shown to fix anything but breaks a lot of tools that choose to upgrade and changes everyone's mindset from bluray to avchd without really telling anyone about it. AVCHD in consumer electronics almost always refers to data on a hard drive/usb drive and about the only thing that's on disk is blu-ray.

[herrde]

In the release notes, it says:

The mode "Create AVCHD disk" is recommended for DVD disks. Use mode "Create Blu-ray disk" if you want to write files to blue-ray disk.

This doesn't make any sense to me. If I use the "Create Blu-ray disc" mode which is (according to these release notes) to be used for BD-R burning only, I can still take the output and burn it to a DVD-R with UDF 2.50 and it's recognized and playable on at least the PS3, isn't it? So what's the "Create AVCHD disk" mode in tsmuxer good for?

Best,

G.

[turbojet]

Create blu-ray disc will not work on a ps3, it changes headers to 200 and doesn't have idex, this currently is only useful in the vc-1 with panasonic situation.

Create avchd is what create blu-ray disc used to be and should work for both dvd and bd.

So basically what you've been using for however long you've been using the program doesn't do what it used to.

One of those options needs to go or change drastically in my opinion.

I know I'm sticking with 1.8.30 - 1.8.34 for real stuff and newer versions are like pre-alpha to me at the moment which is only for testing.

[deank]

Create blu-ray disc will not work on a ps3, it changes headers to 200 and doesn't have idex, this currently is only useful in the vc-1 with panasonic situation.

I think --blu-ray output will work with PS3 or other SAPs but only if burned to BD-R/RE, not with DVD media and I think it's what it is supposed to do. --avchd will work if burned to DVD media or 8.3 transferred to usb/sd. I hope that clears the misunderstanding.

[turbojet]

That very well could be, but if --avchd just replaced --blu-ray then --avchd has been tested for months on bdr with no failures.

So outside of vc-1 on panasonic, which I believe should be fixed but in a different way, there is no logical reason for both outputs.

[herrde]

I think --blu-ray output will work with PS3 or other SAPs but only if burned to BD-R/RE, not with DVD media and I think it's what it is supposed to do. --avchd will work if burned to DVD media or 8.3 transferred to usb/sd. I hope that clears the misunderstanding.

OK, now you guys made me curious. I will run some tests now with DVD-R and BD-R media and find out if deank is right. I will report back in a couple of minutes.

I've already found out one thing which under these circumstances is obvious, but I still want to mention it: if you use tsmuxer's new "Create Blu-ray disc" mode and then run the output through the AVCHDme 1.4 tool, it still doesn't work on a PS3. Just for your info.

Best,

G.

[coolalibaba]

oh is this thread turning to another tsmuxer thread?

[deank]

if you use tsmuxer's new "Create Blu-ray disc" mode and then run the output through the AVCHDme 1.4 tool, it still doesn't work on a PS3. Just for your info.

It will never work in PS3 with DVD/USB if IDEX is missing (i.e. --blu-ray output). It however should work if burned to BD. I can't test it with BD, but if you can - let us know.

[turbojet]

idex could very well be the reason full backups in BD-RB aren't working on dvd, sorry to post it here but I do think the answer, if there is one, lies within multiavchd workings. But I wonder how the idex could be produced.

[herrde]

It will never work in PS3 with DVD/USB if IDEX is missing (i.e. --blu-ray output). It however should work if burned to BD. I can't test it with BD, but if you can - let us know.

OK, test finished. Here we go:

- tsmuxer's new "Blu-ray disc" mode works flawlessly with BD-R(E) media on the PS3 (and obviously on software players, just tested with Cyberlink PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra)

- it doesn't work with DVD-R media. The disc is recognized by the PS3, but just as a Data Disc. You can only navigate to the STREAM folder and play the M2TS files "manually".

- it doesn't work either with USB media, not even if output is processed with AVCDHme or similar tools (just as I remarked further above).

So all in all, deank was right (as always :) ). The new tsmuxer "Create Blu-ray disc" mode only works with BD-R(E) media.

Which takes me to the final question: Do I have any advantage when choosing the "Blu-ray disc" mode with BD-R(E) media? Is this mode maybe more compatible to other SAPs (like turbojet says about the Panasonic)?

Best,

Gero

[deank]

Do I have any advantage when choosing the "Blu-ray disc" mode with BD-R(E) media? Is this mode maybe more compatible to other SAPs (like turbojet says about the Panasonic)?

Yes, I think it was one of the reasons to separate the options in tsMuxeR - if you're going with BD discs - it should be better to use the --blu-ray switch/mode.

As we all know, the bigger problem is with DVD media. Then it comes to the sap manufacturers to decide how to handle DVD media with HD content.

Some players (like Sony 3xx series) doesn't really care what the media is, but what the content is, so they play full BD backups (with index.bdmv without the idex part) and will also play the avchd-like discs with idex, too.

Other players (like Panasonic) will not accept true BD content on DVD media unless it has this idex and then IF they play the content, certain limitations are applied (no BDJ support, reduced navigation-commands support in movieobject, etc).

It is impossible to change the way your BD player will handle DVD discs with BD content - it is up to the firmware programmers.

I think, for now, the only thing that works 100% is BD content on BD-R/RE disc (with or without the idex) - anything else is dependent on player/model/firmware.

***

Here is another thought:

I was thinking few weeks ago about checking some PSR registers in these different modes. It is known that PSR31 holds the information for BD player profile and version, so I was thinking if the value changes in different modes / with different media.

I may try to create a sample structure to burn on DVD and another to burn on BD-RE. It will display graphical information based on what your BD player reports for various PSR registers, and especially PSR31.

Dean

[herrde]

Very good idea! If you need my help with testing, just let me know!

Best,

Gero

[turbojet]

This is what I've come across from various sources.

BD-RETAIL-BDJ: 80 00 00 00
BD-RETAIL BDJ: A0 00 00 00
BD-RETAIL-HDMV: 40 00 00 00
BD-RETAIL HDMV: 40 00 00 00
BD-RETAIL NO MENU: 40 00 00 00
HQV-AVCHD-MENU: 40 00 00 00
multiavchd with menu: 40 00 00 00
TSMuxer: 10 00 01 00

maybe this help

[deank]

Also... about the IDEX segment in index.bdmv...

It seems that there are two "secret" values, called ID1 and ID2, which define what exactly will be the content (ID1) and subcontent (ID2) of the IDEX block. At this time the only known (to me) pair of ID1 and ID2 is 0x10 0x00 0x01 0x00 (ID1= 0x1000 and ID2=0x0100). These values refer to information stored in SAPs chips/firmware-code and are defined by the licensor (ID1 or ID1&ID2) and the hardware manufacturer (ID2). Usually you'll find these values at offset 0x84 - 0x87 in index.bdmv. :) On top of it - index.bdmv can contain multiple IDEX blocks, all with (mandatory) different pairs ID1+ID2.

A disc being AVCHD is indicated by ID1 set to 0x1000 - this is very important and is the FIRST thing a player will check and act accordingly.

AVCHD index.bdmv is much much more complicated than a regular BD index.bdmv and can contain tons of information about titles like playlists, recording information, write protection, etc...

I posted before, but will do it again: AVCHD clpi and mpls files contain similar extended information (CLEX/PLEX) which also affects playback.

All these things are related to making a working SDHC playback for Panasonic TVs/BD players and even directly in your camera :)

A small reminder about AVCHD - it is media independent (unlike BDMV) and players are bound to support it on all storage media - SD cards, Memory Stick, USB flash and HDD drives, DVD and BD discs. Of course - once in AVCHD mode, a player may pose limitations set by the AVCHD standard, such as video codec, frame-rate, secondary video/audio and PIP, Java, etc.

All this should have gone into the new thread I was thinking of ("who is who") but anyway...

[deank]

This is what I've come across from various sources.

The example I gave was with one title only. You'll find these values in multiAVCHD's index @ offset 0x258.

Otherwise their location is set by the 4 byte value @ offset 0x0C plus 0x0C (if 0x0C thru 0x0F are non-zero) - as in multiAVCHD 0x0c-0x0f shows 00 00 02 4C so you get 0x24C + 0xC = 0x258.

I doubt that any of the retail discs you checked use IDEX. They should have 00 00 00 00 at offset 0x0C.

If you remember - that was the idea of goBD - to add the IDEX to a standard BDMV index.bdmv, by changing these four zeroes to a new IDEX offset, adding the IDEX and converting it to AVCHD index.bdmv, thus lifting the media restriction of BDMV and forcing the player to accept BD content from DVD (as it seems to work with PS3).

*** edit: Few tests with different values for ID1 proved that PS3 will not detect AVCHD if ID1 is anything but 0x1000.

*** edit: More information is available in patents. Click here: (http://www.google.bg/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Extension+Data+AVCHD+ID1+ID2+patent+-handycam+-hotmail&btnG=%D2%FA%F0%F1%E5%ED%E5&meta=) or link#1 (https://publications.european-patent-office.org/PublicationServer/getpdf.jsp?cc=EP&pn=1870895&ki=A1) | link#2 (https://publications.european-patent-office.org/PublicationServer/getpdf.jsp?cc=EP&pn=1870900&ki=A1) | link#3 (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1870895.html) | link#4 (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1873783.html)

[turbojet]

Oh I see, you are correct no retails I have here have anything but 00 00 00 00 at 0x0C thru 0x0F

[Edujr]

Deank:

I tried first, using only the complete setup from this topic first page. Didn't work. Then, i downloaded Ts Muxer 1.9.1b, and applied the new files in tools folder, over. Didn't work too.

PROBLEM SOLVED

[deank]

I doubt you're using the correct tsmuxer or FULL download - it was updated today. You'll need tsmuxer 1.9.3 or 1.9.4. Download it from this link. (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tsmuxer/tsMuxeR_1_9_4.exe)

Also you can try directly with tsmuxerGUI.

[rendez2k]

I've suddenly started getting this issue today:

[09:49:27] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 514)
[09:49:27] Processing 4 input files/folders.
[09:49:27] Existing E:\Temp\AVCHD\ renamed to E:\Temp\AVCHD-20090411-094927
[09:49:27] Temp folder does not exist. Set to E:\_TEMP.
[09:49:27] Converting mkv/mp4 file to AVCHD (E:\Media Share\24.s07e17.720p.hdtv.x264-ctu.mkv).
[09:49:27] Detected audio: ID#1:A_AC3:audio (48000Hz/6ch) Language: und
[09:49:27] Detected video: ID#2:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC:1280x720 23.976fps (AR:1.78)
[09:49:28] Creating BluRay folders (tsMuxer)...
[09:49:28] Done!
[09:49:28] tsMuxer didn't like (E:\Media Share\24.s07e17.720p.hdtv.x264-ctu.mkv). Skipping it...
[09:49:28] Converting mkv/mp4 file to AVCHD (E:\Media Share\heroes.s03e22.720p.hdtv.x264-ctu.mkv).
[09:49:28] Detected audio: ID#1:A_AC3:audio (48000Hz/6ch) Language: und
[09:49:28] Detected video: ID#2:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC:1280x720 23.976fps (AR:1.78)
[09:49:28] Creating BluRay folders (tsMuxer)...
[09:49:28] Done!
[09:49:28] tsMuxer didn't like (E:\Media Share\heroes.s03e22.720p.hdtv.x264-ctu.mkv). Skipping it...

I've tried it with multiple different MKVs and all of them have the same errors! I've done a full download of 2.5 (514) and still the same error. Any ideas?! Maybe something like a codec has changed on my system?! The files appear to play fine.

[deank]

Please check what is the version of tsmuxer in multiavchd\tools.
Also try with [x] show spawned tools.

[herrde]

@rendez2k:

You might have run into the same problem that I had recently. Check if you have a localized version of mkvtoolnix installed! If yes, then all the mkvtoolnix programs (e.g. mkvinfo.exe) in your multiAVCHD folder are using the localized language output too - and multiAVCHD can't process other language outputs than english.

If this is the case, just delete the subfolders in the "locale" directory within your mkvtoolnix folder - this urges all mkvtoolnix programs to switch back to english.

Hope this helps.

Best,

Gero

[deank]

I doubt it is his case, because it seems his mkvinfo is working (no warnings in the log and AUDIO/VIDEO streams are detected properly). It is something else, but I guess he solved it already.

[ramonchin]

Hi!

I've got this error
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6268/multiavchd.jpg

Do you know what's causing it?

Thanks.

[deank]

Scroll up :) the log and you'll see the warning/error in red.

[ramonchin]

Scroll up :) the log and you'll see the warning/error in red.

Ups!!

I've closed the app. Is the log file saved in any folder?

Will DVD work?... I'm burning it.

[deank]

If you have [x] Create log file - you should have a _LOG folder with it. Yes, it will work, but you should really take a look at the log when you have warnings/errors.

[ramonchin]

Ok. It plays fine on PS3.

Thanks.

[desray]

Finally waited for 5 days in order to make my first post.

Thanks to deank and his effort in making this utility. For the past 5 days I have been working on a project to cut my first AVCHD Demo Disc and its finishing soon. But recently I got some issue with 1080i 25fps (PAL) material to play w/o stutter on my LG BD370 Blu-ray player...other clips played fine...but only this particular clip. I wonder what could be the problem and how to resolve it.

[desray]

Another question, will there be any problem with the use of different versions of the TSMuxer? I understand that TSMuxer is the backbone behind all the muxing work.

[deank]

What type of TV system you're using?

It is better to use tsmuxer provided with multiAVCHD - version 1.9.3/4.

[desray]

I'm using a Projector and its able to accept both PAL and NTSC signal...

The stutter occurs for some clips with DTS Core and most of the clips with DTS-HD MA track...BUT it plays fine when I use on on TViX Media Player (M-6500). Initially I thought its the resolution too big and DTS-HD MA track requires higher bandwidth - but this doesn't seem to hold ground as a few clips at 1920 x 1080 with DTS core played fine...this is making me very confused with the dependability of this utility or maybe TSMuxer could be the culprit?

[ramonchin]

Is there any option to encode DTS to AC3 in multiAVCHD ? I think DTS sound is uncompatible with AVCHD standard , isn't it?

[davsim]

Just my 2c but... SD compliant AVCHD is the REAL AVCHD and I'm almost there. And it can support menus - I got samples with menues and created SD samples w/o menues with Panasonic's HDwriter. Menus won't show on your TV (don't know for the BDP) - but they can be in the structure. As I earlier posted - this true AVCHD is really complex structure but will work in the end.
As a new BD35 user, I am really looking forward to SD card support. I've tested a few files myself and anything that isn't camcorder source isn't even detected by the player.

The only files I have been able to play from the SD card with /PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV structure are from the sample clips here:

http://www.elurauser.com/articles/avchd_to_bluray.jsp

I look forward to following your progress. If you need SD card support testing on a BD35, please post short sample clips.

[desray]

Is there any option to encode DTS to AC3 in multiAVCHD ? I think DTS sound is uncompatible with AVCHD standard , isn't it?

Yes there is such an option but most of the clips in my demo disc is in DTS Core and exhibit no problem except a few. I am suspecting the 16bit vs 24bit of the DTS core track.

[desray]

Wishlist for multiAVCHD

- Allow certain titles to autoplay like trailers and then come to a halt pending for user execution will be nice.

[shv]

Hello,
I would like to process m2ts files with Multiavchd. Well this is possible but the original chapters are not available afterwards. Would it be possible to add one mpls file instead of m2ts as this could be done in TsMuxeR?

Use cases:
- keep original chapters for m2ts files
- add only the main movie of BD structure which consists of some m2ts files to Multiavchd
- add a movie which is splitted into different m2ts files to Multiavchd
- Fat32 as target drive is possible because TsMuxeR is used to remux and split files

Regards.
shv

[deank]

Wishlist for multiAVCHD

- Allow certain titles to autoplay like trailers and then come to a halt pending for user execution will be nice.

You can add titles, use [x] Create menu, [x] Skip top menu, [-] Quit on last title...

Then the player will auto start from title#1.. play all titles and at the end will show the menu. Or you're asking for something else?

Hello,
I would like to process m2ts files with Multiavchd. Well this is possible but the original chapters are not available afterwards. Would it be possible to add one mpls file instead of m2ts as this could be done in TsMuxeR?

You can import existing BDMV structures and chapters will be kept. I'll see about mpls-only import.

[deank]

Is there any option to encode DTS to AC3 in multiAVCHD ? I think DTS sound is uncompatible with AVCHD standard , isn't it?

You're right - it is not supported in AVCHD, but PS3 handles it. I may add an option for STRICTER audio/video formats and option to convert DTS audio to AC3 (as it is done in mkv2avi).

[desray]

You're right - it is not supported in AVCHD, but PS3 handles it. I may add an option for STRICTER audio/video formats and option to convert DTS audio to AC3 (as it is done in mkv2avi).

Yes, from what I gathered AVCHD doesn't really support DTS but my BD370 Bluray player can playback DTS with no problem :) maybe the engineers from LG used the same technique to allow playback of DTS Core...BUT its still quite tricky as 3 out of 10 of my clips encoded in DTS Core and one in DTS-HD MA track didn't work well...and cause the picture to stutter.

Sighz...I guess this is a limitation for using AVCHD.

[desray]

You can add titles, use [x] Create menu, [x] Skip top menu, [-] Quit on last title...

Then the player will auto start from title#1.. play all titles and at the end will show the menu. Or you're asking for something else?


LoL...I think you're not getting what I'm driving at here...I'm referring to the playback of certain titles (perhaps the first few titles in the list) for autoplay once the disc is loaded. Yes I agreed that Skip Top Menu allows us to play the clip directly but it plays the whole playlist unless I hit the Menu button on the remote...

What I'm looking for is what I will called a preview screening of trailers (something along this line) - which have been implemented by many of the DVD Authoring tools in the past.

Hope its clearer now? Any way this is not a priority - just some value added feature which you can consider implementing it along the way. :)

Cheers!~

[desray]

You're right - it is not supported in AVCHD, but PS3 handles it. I may add an option for STRICTER audio/video formats and option to convert DTS audio to AC3 (as it is done in mkv2avi).

No wonder...sometimes when I checked the Use eac3to option when needed to enable DTS HD MA or Dolby TrueHD tracks to be encoded into 640kbps (AC3 Core) - no track was generated.

Hope future release can make it work like a charm ;D

[deank]

I did a lot of tests and HD audio is converted to AC3. If you have sample to send - I'll test it.

[desray]

Some concept arts for impending release :)

http://desray.dyndns.org/Joomla/images/stories/AVCHD/concept_art_menu.jpg

http://desray.dyndns.org/Joomla/images/stories/AVCHD/concept_art_menu2.jpg

[deank]

It looks nice. I don't know what is the purpose of these presentation discs and I hope you've read what is in the 'about' box.

[desray]

Dun worry - its for my personal consumption and test my Home Theater equipment and calibrating purpose. Its not for sale - so do I need to write you a formal email to request for permission based on the About portion.

[deank]

Too bad I'm no designer :) and I'm stuck with some stupid looking backgrounds :) and it is a pleasure to see how people use multiAVCHD. Also you may drop a note somewhere in your blog that you're using multiAVCHD for your production.

[desray]

Too bad I'm no designer :) and I'm stuck with some stupid looking backgrounds :) and it is a pleasure to see how people use multiAVCHD. Also you may drop a note somewhere in your blog that you're using multiAVCHD for your production.


Sure thing...no problem. In fact I will pass on the message of how great this little program does :) Cheers!~ Keep up the good work back home. :)

[desray]

Is there any banner, emblem or icon that you can provide me to put on my blog?

[deank]

No - I never actually had time to design my own ICON for the application :) not to say about banners.

(also - you can edit your posts instead of posting few one after another :D)

[desray]

No - I never actually had time to design my own ICON for the application :) not to say about banners.

(also - you can edit your posts instead of posting few one after another :D)

Oops...sorry. :o:D

[fifteen]

@deank

Does the bluray output for multiAVCHD now match the "new" tsmuxer bluray output? or is it different?

[deank]

It doesn't affect multiAVCHD, because of the 'authoring' part in multiAVCHD. You should not worry about it. :)

And multiBD is not 'really' a bluray output - it has always been avchd but for optical media.

[fifteen]

And multiBD is not 'really' a bluray output - it has always been avchd but for optical media.

That is more precisely what I was wondering about...

Should there be a true bluray output? Is there a reason there isn't such an output? I'm just wondering about future compatibility, etc.

I assumed it wasn't a real bluray output, because of the need to remove AUXDATA and CERTIFICATE directories for playback in certain players.

[deank]

Well the name "multiAVCHD" was picked because of the AVCHD output type. It was never a problem to add a true blu-ray output button and I may add one. I just fear that it will bring much confusion among users.

I assumed it wasn't a real bluray output, because of the need to remove AUXDATA and CERTIFICATE directories for playback in certain players.

There is a [x] Stricter avchd folder mode option in multiAVCHD and if users use it - there's no need to manually remove these folders.

[desray]

Hi deank, if you can, please do add a button for the TRUE Bluray output as I will be getting a Bluray ReWriter pretty soon and will like to try that out. Thanks!

[ramonchin]

You're right - it is not supported in AVCHD, but PS3 handles it. I may add an option for STRICTER audio/video formats and option to convert DTS audio to AC3 (as it is done in mkv2avi).

It would be great! Thanks.

[deank]

Blu-ray output is added now in build 517. Enjoy.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_log.jpg

DTS to AC3 will be added tomorrow or next week.

[gordan]

Hi,

I just got two errors in processing mkvs. I'll report them separately, but first, the issue I see is that the resulting menu is erroneous. It contains all items that I wanted to include but the stream folder includes only the files that were processed without errors. Therefore I have to rename entries and delete extra entries...

The solution seam simple: the menu should include only tracks that were processed without errors.

THX, G

[gordan]

Here's my 1st issue:

The log contains the following error "tsMuxer didn't like (). Skipping it...", without additional info.

The full log is attached in my next post.

I'm using build 515

[deank]

Yes, sometimes it happens. I need more time to work on the error-processing.

[gordan]

... and the 2nd:

The error is
"Important files missing (clpi/mpls/m2ts)...
Possible tsMuxer failure to process your input file (I:\Video\Movies\movie.mkv)."

The log and info on the movie are attached.

In an ideal world, the message would be very specific. Is there something that can be done to explain what is wrong?

THX! G

[gordan]

Yes, sometimes it happens. I need more time to work on the error-processing.

Not such a problem if the result is correct:) (Referring to my post on the menu.)

[fifteen]

Blu-ray output is added now in build 517. Enjoy.

Sweet.:thanks:

[jfcarbel]

I see on the latest version a button for AVCHD for USB/SDHC.

Does this now support the SDHC for SAP like the Panasonic BD30, or is this still limited to PS3?

[desray]

I see on the latest version a button for AVCHD for USB/SDHC.

Does this now support the SDHC for SAP like the Panasonic BD30, or is this still limited to PS3?

IIRC think still apply to PS3 only...

[desray]

Thanks deank for the addition of the True Bluray output button. Will try that out later in the day :)

[desray]

Oh quick question...when I play the titles in the playlist (from beginning till the end)...when I press the NEXT CHAPTER button on my remote, why can't the title skip to the next playlist item? Is there a workaround instead of pressing the <Menu> or <Title> button on the remote whenever I want to go on to the next chapters towards the end? Likewise for PREVIOUS CHAPTER for cycling backwards...I though this is quite an important function for all authoring tools of DVD and Bluray :P

[jfcarbel]

IIRC think still apply to PS3 only...

Thanks, but whats does IIRC mean? - sorry LOL don't know that one.

[drpaulng]

Thanks, but whats does IIRC mean? - sorry LOL don't know that one.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=159012#post159012

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/IIRC

[speedxl]

Hi Dean, thank you for your amazing work with multiAVCHD.

I don´t know if this applies to the AVCHD format, i have a PS3 and i use a streaming app called Ps3 Media Server, i use it mostly to stream SD videos or music, anyway im telling you this because they managed to stream DTS without transcoding or converting to LPCM, they trick the Ps3 player by sending a supported audio file (AC3, i think), and after a second, the server changes it back to the original DTS stream, so your audio equipment notices this change and then it decodes the DTS stream.

Maybe (or maybe not) this could be done with multiavchd to avoid transcoding the DTS MA/HRA to LPCM or AC3, with LPCM as you well know, we conserve quality but increase the file size a lot, and with AC3 we lose quality, so maybe its worthy to try this.

Thanks again...

[deank]

I see on the latest version a button for AVCHD for USB/SDHC.

Does this now support the SDHC for SAP like the Panasonic BD30, or is this still limited to PS3?

No, not yet. When I enable the option in AUTHOR tab - then it will work

Oh quick question...when I play the titles in the playlist (from beginning till the end)...when I press the NEXT CHAPTER button on my remote, why can't the title skip to the next playlist item? Is there a workaround instead of pressing the <Menu> or <Title> button on the remote whenever I want to go on to the next chapters towards the end? Likewise for PREVIOUS CHAPTER for cycling backwards...

NEXT and PREV on my PS3 remote advance to the next/previous chapter, not title. You can create your own chapter marks at the very end of each file and then NEXT will almost instantly play the next title.

...they managed to stream DTS without transcoding or converting to LPCM, they trick the Ps3 player by sending a supported audio file (AC3, i think), and after a second, the server changes it back to the original DTS stream, so your audio equipment notices this change and then it decodes the DTS stream.

Maybe (or maybe not) this could be done with multiavchd to avoid transcoding the DTS MA/HRA to LPCM or AC3, with LPCM as you well know, we conserve quality but increase the file size a lot, and with AC3 we lose quality, so maybe its worthy to try this.

I'd rather not mangle audio streams in such way. multiAVCHD is not for PS3 only, so no one could tell what impact it will have on other players. Also, you can use HD audio untouched (without encoding to LPCM or AC3) and your pS3 will play it. Simply do not use the checkboxes in Audio tab.

[deank]

In build 518:

index.bdmv is generated in different way so now players will show proper title count (not always 40). There was an issue with PowerDVD when I did it in build 421, so please if anyone can - test PDVD with the latest build.

Dean

[desray]

Hi deank, just a heads up - there's a new version of TSMuxer (version 1.9.7 beta) is available now... :)

[desray]

I always experience auto-update function problem...I can see the script running with the pop-up box showing checking for newer fiirmware version - despite several attempts to update, the latest build just simply refuse to be updated...but other times its okay. Is the window period (time) to download the patch been too short? What gives?

[deank]

Close multiAVCHD and execute multiUPDATE.exe. Does it show any errors? There are three mirror links to check - it should download from at least one.

A direct link to the exe: http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/multiAVCHD.exe

[desray]

Close multiAVCHD and execute multiUPDATE.exe. Does it show any errors? There are three mirror links to check - it should download from at least one.

A direct link to the exe: http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/multiAVCHD.exe

Thanks for the direct link...I've downloaded and replaced the application and now it shows updated version b.519...but I hoped this problem will not be recurring for me... :(

[shv]

I'll see about mpls-only import.

mpls-only import possibility would be a big help!

[deank]

Thanks for the direct link...I've downloaded and replaced the application and now it shows updated version b.519...but I hoped this problem will not be recurring for me... :(

Some people have problems with autoupdate because of their firewall settings - nothing major in the update procedure was changed since build 44.

[kenguru2005]

Hi deank, just a heads up - there's a new version of TSMuxer (version 1.9.7 beta) is available now... :)

I just updated my tsmuxer.exe to version 1.9.7 .... I hope any wrong with it

[deank]

It is included in the full-download anyway... we'll see.

Did anyone had a chance to try multiAVCHD output with the new buttons (for Blu-ray) to players OTHER THAN PS3?

[desray]

It is included in the full-download anyway... we'll see.

Did anyone had a chance to try multiAVCHD output with the new buttons (for Blu-ray) to players OTHER THAN PS3?

Yes me trying now...will report back with results. :)

:helpful:

[navycrow]

1. I think there is a bug when the filename to import has the character ' (apostrophe) - forx example "king arthur director's cut".
It generates a movie that has a time 0:00:00 and which is unplayable.
If i rename the file all seems ok.

2. when i select XMB directshow option, i have a lot of x264.exe error when creating menu

3. the renaming of avchd folder into avchd_date don't work for me and generate errors with line 6642 mentionned

[deank]

mpls-only import possibility would be a big help!

Okay I added *.MPLS support in build 521. Be advised that your files have to have the long file names format, i.e. 00000.mpls / 00000.m2ts (but not 8.3 00000.MPL/MTS).

Please test it and let me know if it works... It will probably need more work, but this is the initial support.

(a late fix: chapters and audio/subtitle language tags)

Dean

[speedxl]

I'd rather not mangle audio streams in such way. multiAVCHD is not for PS3 only, so no one could tell what impact it will have on other players. Also, you can use HD audio untouched (without encoding to LPCM or AC3) and your pS3 will play it. Simply do not use the checkboxes in Audio tab.

Oh since multiavchd has the checkboxes to convert the streams, I thought it was needed, but i guess its then only needed for other players, i did not know that, thank you!

[navycrow]

FAT32 splitting seems not to work correctly. The soft tell me there is not enought space when the file copy it is at about 4000 mb

[deank]

Okay now in build 521 you can use your blu-ray's playlist to create multiAVCHD. It's useful if you want to transfer it to external HDD, split in 4GB chunks and watch it on your PS3 in minutes.

[16:21:26] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 521)
[16:21:26] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[16:21:26] Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (I:\BD-TrainingDay\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00003.mpls).
[16:21:26] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[16:21:26] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[16:21:28] Detected video: V_MS/VFW/WVC1 (TID#4113)
[16:21:28] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: und)
[16:21:28] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4353 / language: eng)
[16:21:28] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4354 / language: ita)
[16:21:28] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4355 / language: eng)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: spa)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: ita)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4610 / language: ita)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4611 / language: nld)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4612 / language: dan)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4613 / language: fin)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4614 / language: nor)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4615 / language: swe)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4616 / language: ita)
[16:21:28] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4617 / language: eng)
[16:21:28] Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
[16:21:28] Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000;00:03:53.524;00:08:02.356;00:12:20.072;00:15:37.394
[16:21:28] Detected chapter mark: 00:20:35.943;00:25:42.290;00:32:13.932;00:36:12.670;00:40:41.063
[16:21:28] Detected chapter mark: 00:45:20.467;00:47:15.207;00:49:24.002;00:55:04.259;00:59:59.762
[16:21:28] Detected chapter mark: 01:02:56.272;01:09:56.859;01:15:08.253;01:20:29.699;01:24:17.385
[16:21:28] Detected chapter mark: 01:29:26.277;01:33:27.601;01:37:21.335;01:41:25.579;01:45:00.210
[16:21:28] Detected chapter mark: 01:48:44.184;01:52:39.961;01:55:43.144;02:02:02.481
[16:21:28] Creating BluRay folders (tsMuxer)...
[16:22:28] Done!
[16:22:28] CLPI transfer: D:\_TEMP\20090413-162128-3276\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_TDmenu\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi
[16:22:28] M2TS transfer: D:\_TEMP\20090413-162128-3276\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_TDmenu\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
[16:22:28] MPLS transfer: D:\_TEMP\20090413-162128-3276\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_TDmenu\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls
[16:22:30] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:03:53.524;00:08:02.356;00:12:20.072;00:15:37.394;...
[16:22:30] Preparing authoring information...
[16:22:30] Creating PAL top menu.
[16:22:30] Authoring menu (PAL).
[16:22:35] Creating menu backgrounds for 1 titles (XMB)...
[16:22:35] Trying to use Directshow first...
[16:22:57] Creating video backgrounds for XMB menu completed.
[16:23:03] Authoring custom menu completed.
[16:23:03] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[16:23:03] Setting menu properties...
[16:23:03] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[16:23:03] Completed.
[16:23:03] Done!
[16:23:03] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_TDmenu folder created!
[16:23:03] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[16:23:03] Deleting only files in temp folder (D:\_TEMP\)...
[16:23:03] You may now remove temp folder (D:\_TEMP\).
[16:23:03] Your compilation contains 0hrs 10min 38sec of video material.
[16:23:04] End of log.


At this point no external audio/subtitles are added or removed, but I can add these features later.

[deank]

FAT32 splitting seems not to work correctly. The soft tell me there is not enought space when the file copy it is at about 4000 mb

You seem to be the only one with so many problems and one of the many who didn't read the guide nor this thread carefully.

Check if you really have enough space on your _TEMP and TARGET drives. Also about AVCHD-rename problem - it is always better to use "Custom name" and the newly created AVCHD will be named "AVCHD_custom name"... You can't always use AVCHD if you already have one in your output folder and if another program is using the content.

[navycrow]

i've read the guide :)

i don't know why i have these bugs. i use this soft since 1 month and the most of time it works allright but on on certain files it hangs. I don't know why.

i have enough space (more than 320 gb free)

[sp99]

i've read the guide :)

i don't know why i have these bugs. i use this soft since 1 month and the most of time it works allright but on on certain files it hangs. I don't know why.

i have enough space (more than 320 gb free)

Are you trying to import a Blu ray structure >4gb ?

It caught me out for a while until I re-read the whole thread.

over 4gb it has to be the m2ts file only.

Simon

[deank]

In case of blu-ray structure, containing 4+GiB m2ts files now you can use the new option to import mpls files. Then large m2ts will be split.

[navycrow]

Are you trying to import a Blu ray structure >4gb ?

It caught me out for a while until I re-read the whole thread.

over 4gb it has to be the m2ts file only.

Simon

yes... well :(

the problem if import only the m2ts, i doesn't take account of chapters and language id


For the problem of renaming, i think i have understand

if i have already have a folder named AVCHD with some movies and i want to add a new one. The rename doesn't work. i ve to rename manually the AVCHD folder with a new name.

But if i import a folder named for ex. AVCHD_LIST1 and add a new movie and a folder names AVCHD already exists. It rename AVCHD without problem.

[navycrow]

i just found how to import mpls. The button doesn't mention MPLS


... but it doesn't work !

i'have this message "tsMuxer didn't like (E:\King_arthur\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls). Skipping it...
No compatible folders/files processed..."

[deank]

the problem if import only the m2ts, i doesn't take account of chapters and language id

Try to find which XXXXX.mpls file contains your XXXXX.m2ts file and import it, instead of the .m2ts file.

edit: Please post your LOG file (what's inside LOG tab). Before all this - update to multiAVCHD build 521 - use multiUPDATE.exe.


For the problem of renaming, i think i have understand

But if i import a folder named for ex. AVCHD_LIST1 and add a new movie and a folder names AVCHD already exists. It rename AVCHD without problem.

To make things simple - always CLOSE your multiAVCHD before trying to make another compilation. Also if you already have AVCHD folder in the output folder - make sure that no other programs are using it (close all players, explorer windows which have the AVCHD open, etc.). OR SIMPLY fill something in the "Custom name" box before you start compiling.

The button doesn't mention MPLS

Well if you've REALLY read what I posted TODAY (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1273308#post1273308)(just few posts up) you should've noticed that it is added and it is under testing. Also I can't put every file type inside this small button!

Also - I doubt that 00000.mpls you used is the MOVIE playlist - it could be a menu or something else.

[navycrow]

Try to find which XXXXX.mpls file contains your XXXXX.m2ts file and import it, instead of the .m2ts file.

edit: Please post your LOG file (what's inside LOG tab). Before all this - update to multiAVCHD build 521 - use multiUPDATE.exe.

i already use build 521
here is he log

[17:00:09] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 521)
[17:00:09] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[17:00:09] Existing F:\AVCHD\ renamed to F:\AVCHD-20090413-170009
[17:00:09] Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (E:\King_arthur\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
[17:00:09] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[17:00:09] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[17:00:09] Creating BluRay folders (tsMuxer)...
[17:00:09] Done!





To make things simple - always CLOSE your multiAVCHD before trying to make another compilation. Also if you already have AVCHD folder in the output folder - make sure that no other programs are using it (close all players, explorer windows which have the AVCHD open, etc.). OR SIMPLY fill something in the "Custom name" box before you start compiling.



Well if you've REALLY read what I posted TODAY (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1273308#post1273308)(just few posts up) you should've noticed that it is added and it is under testing. Also I can't put every file type inside this small button!

Also - I doubt that 00000.mpls you used is the MOVIE playlist - it could be a menu or something else.

Stop thinking i'm not reading post or guides.
I've REALLY read your post but you didn't mention where to find tis option.
00000.mpls is the movie, not a menu. it's the only file i have. it's a blu-ray structure created by tsmuxer.

[desray]

Just tested the Bluray support function and I have just successfully burnt to a BD-RE (Single-layered) media with no problem. And previously files that have stutter were gone now!!! I dunno how but it appears that my LG BD370 preferred BDMV file structure over the stripped-down AVCHD version of the Blu-ray format.

I am very happy :)

[deank]

@navycrow:

Looking at your log I'd say that:

1) 00000.mpls is definitely not your movie playlist
2) You either didn't rip the original blu-ray disc properly or you don't have it at all.

Take a look few posts up where I pasted my log. There you will see a lot of streams being detected before the line "Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxer)...".

@desray: And I believe your player indicates that it's playing Blu-ray disc (content).

[desray]

@desray: And I believe your player indicates that it's playing Blu-ray disc (content).

You're so right!!! :)

[navycrow]

I confirm 00000.mpls is the only file i have. it contains 00000.m2ts wich contains my movie with 1 video track, 5 audio tracks and 6 subtitles tracks. There is no menu.

[deank]

Okay, open it in tsmuxerGUI and check what it will say.

[shv]

I did already first test with 3 movies and it works without any problem. After only 20min I had all 3 movies on the Fat32 disc. Thank you for this nice feature it is a great help to prevent much manual work for watching movies with the PS3. I used AVCHD manager before and needed to start TsMuxeR for each movie and go back with the disc to the PC to switch the active movie.

[navycrow]

Okay, open it in tsmuxerGUI and check what it will say.

do you thrust peoples sometimes ???
it say what i told you
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8476/kingarthur.jpg

[deank]

Download the full Setup (from 1st post) and try again.

Uncheck [x] Delete temp files and check your _temp folder... there should be 00000.meta... please paste its contents to compare to tsmuxer's meta in gui.

[golemik]

Hi deank
Congratulation - this is ideal for me soft.

I have - multiAVCHD 2.5 (built 523)

1) Could you make a change in menu properities - Headline offset- to X and Y coordinate system separatelly.
2) Can I add audio file to menu?
Regards

[deank]

Headline offset is used in all 3 types of menues (classic/thumb/xmb) and I guess you're asking for the XMB one. There is not much space in the GUI to fit one, but I'll think of it.

The audio - no - until a proper muxer is available to mux avc+igs+ac3. At this point I managed to do avc+igs in a real brute-force way.

[Butterfly666]

Yes, update to build 499 and you'll find an option in settings [x] and delete video if removed :)

MTS/m2ts file will be renamed to *.del if option is unchecked. Also clpi/mpls files will be renamed to .del in their folders.

Hi Deank, I had tested but what about if I want to add the old movie back (renamed to .del) with other movies in 1 MultiAVCHD again?

MultiAVCHD doesnt read the file or title name from .del.

[fifteen]

Did anyone had a chance to try multiAVCHD output with the new buttons (for Blu-ray) to players OTHER THAN PS3?


New Bluray output to BD5 (DVD+R):

works on Sony BDP-S350

doesn't work on Samsung BD-P1500

[deank]

You people really have strange ideas...

you can rename all .del files back to .clpi/mpls/m2ts and put an index.bdmv in your old/deleted multiavhcd compilation.

[Guest]

@gordan

Seven Pounds.2008.D.BDRip.720p_RST.mkv

Do not discuss torrent downloads on this board, per forum rule 6.

http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm

[deank]

New Bluray output to BD5 (DVD+R): works on Sony BDP-S350, doesn't work on Samsung BD-P1500

Well the button says BLU-RAY FOR BD-R (not for DVD), so I asked for comments about people trying it with BD-R/RE discs. Thanks anyway. It was not meant to work with DVD in the first place.

@neuron: I'm sorry - I probably missed this post... d..

[Butterfly666]

Thanks again for the guide Deank !

[fifteen]

Well the button says BLU-RAY FOR BD-R (not for DVD), so I asked for comments about people trying it with BD-R/RE discs. Thanks anyway. It was not meant to work with DVD in the first place.

@neuron: I'm sorry - I probably missed this post... d..

Just thought you'd like to know results on DVD media.... I'll test with BD-R/RE shortly.

[turbojet]

New Bluray output to BD5 (DVD+R):

works on Sony BDP-S350

doesn't work on Samsung BD-P1500

If you remove AUXDATA directory does DVD play on Samsung BD-P1500?

[tkamp]

Hi DeanK
I have a little proposal for a feature:
It would be nice to be able to append titles/videos to an already authored AVCHD. This would cut down the authoring time, and you would be able to collect all your titles in the same AVCHD.
Regards

[deank]

It is possible.

Read here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1264785#post1264785) or read the 1st post.

***

A small tweak was added in latest build:

If you import MPLS files they will show in Editor tab with FOLDER_NAME taken from the path. For example

D:\Training_Day\bdmv\playlist\00000.mpls

you will see Training Day in Editor tab.

[deank]

Build 524:

MPLS file import:

* Fixed: A_LPCM was not detected
* Fixed: Audio track delays were not detected
* Added: [x] Keep all audio tracks now affects MPLS tracks, too.
* Added: [x] Add embedded subtitles now affects MPLS tracks, too.
* Added: [x] Add external subtitles now affects MPLS tracks, too. (you can add 00XXX.srt / 00XXX.sup with 00XXX.mpls)
* Added: [x] Add external audio tracks & [x] and keep original now affect MPLS tracks, too.
(You can add 00XXX.dts/ac3/lpcm with 00XXX.mpls / you can also use .LID. for audio and subtitles, ie 00XXX.fre.srt 00XXX.deu.ac3)

In other words you can load your movie mpls file and strip it off of all subtitle and audio tracks (except the 1st one or add external) and get smaller output size.

--------------------------

@navycrow: Please try again with your movie. I'm sorry - the problem may have been with the improper detection of the A_LPCM in your movie.

[desray]

New Bluray output to BD5 (DVD+R):

works on Sony BDP-S350

doesn't work on Samsung BD-P1500

Let me try on my Samsung BD-P1400 and report back the result. :)

[deank]

Make sure to use [AVCHD for DVD/BD-R] and [x] Stricter AVCHD folder format option. Otherwise I doubt it will work.

[desray]

Make sure to use [AVCHD for DVD/BD-R] and [x] Stricter AVCHD folder format option. Otherwise I doubt it will work.

Sorry deank, didn't get what you meant...you mean to say to check the Stricter AVCHD folder format? But I thought we're testing on a BD media? Why will I want to check this option? :rolleyes:

[desray]

BTW deank, are you aware of this thread that mentioned something about a free utility called AVCHD patcher that helps to make AVCHD menu to be played correctly on a PS3? Sorry I sold off my PS3 and now I didn't have a chance to test on it...Here's the link: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/blu-ray-authoring/139676-authoring-blu-ray-menus-legacy-dvd-yes-you-can.html

Here's the direct link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1662

Cheers!~

[deank]

Oh, okay. I suggested the option because fifteen said that he tested on DVD, not BD-R.

I believe that your test will be successful if you use . Stricter.... is not applied in this case anyway.

---

About AVCHD Patcher - I strongly suggest users NOT TO TRY IT EVER on multiAVCHD output. I know what it does and it is not needed for multiAVCHD index.bdmv file. [B]goBD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1255353#post1255353) does the same and its idea was to make BD structures written on USB or DVD to be accepted as AVCHD in PS3 and some other players.

[desray]

Oh, okay. I suggested the option because fifteen said that he tested on DVD, not BD-R.

I believe that your test will be successful if you use . Stricter.... is not applied in this case anyway.

---

About AVCHD Patcher - I strongly suggest users NOT TO TRY IT EVER on multiAVCHD output. I know what it does and it is not needed for multiAVCHD index.bdmv file. [B]goBD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1255353#post1255353) does the same and its idea was to make BD structures written on USB or DVD to be accepted as AVCHD in PS3 and some other players.

LoL...ok ok.
:)

[deank]

A bit off-topic:

Sony releases new SPS (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/sony_releases_new_stupid_piece_of) :D

[herrde]

A bit off-topic:

Sony releases new SPS (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/sony_releases_new_stupid_piece_of) :D

This is not really off-topic :devil: If Sony would finally support the MKV format itself on the PS3, it would save us shitloads of time...:sly:

G.

[navycrow]

@ deank : i tried another time with hthe latest build, same issue

i tried another time after removing the LPCM audio track and multiAVCHD tell me the same thing. I don't think the LPCM audio track is in cause.

[deank]

Can you load your mpls and after the end of the compilation to post your log, please. I don't have many BD sources to test with.

[jdeiro]

Dean, you said something about language tags, and I have a suggestion: I can't seem to make subtitles be understood as Portuguese, it is always identified as "Other".

However, mkv2vob is able to identify the language correctly, as you can define the language when adding a file.

I know that the purpose of multiAVCHD is different, as I can load numerous files, but maybe there could be an audio/subtitle language option on the "Edit" tab that opens up when editing the titles names. On that option, you could actually choose between many languages the ones you are adding.

Just a suggestion, anyway, as it is not actually a problem. Keep up the good work!

Cheers!

[drpaulng]

You may try to rename the subtitles and put them in order as:

movie.mkv
movie.01.por.srt
movie.02.eng.srt

or you may try to use "CLIPINF Editor" to correct the subtitles and soundtrack.

[fifteen]

New Bluray output to BD5 (DVD+R):

works on Sony BDP-S350

doesn't work on Samsung BD-P1500


New Bluray format works on both for BD-R/RE.

[herrde]

but maybe there could be an audio/subtitle language option on the "Edit" tab that opens up when editing the titles names. On that option, you could actually choose between many languages the ones you are adding.

Yes, that would be so cool....

Best,

Gero

[deank]

Yes, it would, but the current work flow of multiAVCHD does not allow it.

[jdeiro]

Yes, it would, but the current work flow of multiAVCHD does not allow it.

OK, so as of now there is no way for the Portuguese language to be recognized? I've been using LID as POR...

Thanks!!

[deank]

I never found a way do make PS3 display "BULGARIAN", either...

I may try to change the "und" value in mpls files too (not that it worked for 'bul').

[navycrow]

@deank
i ve no other log than the one i have post yesterday. i put it again :
[15:13:56] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 524)
[15:13:56] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[15:13:56] Existing F:\AVCHD\ renamed to F:\AVCHD-20090414-151356
[15:13:56] Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (E:\King Arthur\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
[15:13:56] Error obtaining information (tsMuxeR)!(00000.mpls)...
[15:13:56] No valid information found! (00000.mpls)...
[15:13:56] Done!



I've have the same problem with another movie (original) : Changeling
and same issue.
The mpls containing the m2ts of the movie is 00000.mpls too

Here is the log :
[22:19:26] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 524)
[22:19:26] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[22:19:26] Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (E:\Changeling.2008.1080p.Blu-ray.VC-1.DTS-HD.MA.5.1-DON\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
[22:19:26] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[22:19:26] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[22:19:27] Error obtaining information (tsMuxeR)!(00000.mpls)...
[22:19:27] No valid information found! (00000.mpls)...
[22:19:27] Done!



and the MPLS in TSMuxerGUI :
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2333/changeling.jpg

In these two cases, the compilation does nothing, it stop after only 2 seconds.

[deank]

It is a weird thing to ask but can you put 'cmd.exe' in your multiAVCHD folder? You should find it in windows\system32\cmd.exe

The error in the log:

[15:13:56] Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (E:\King Arthur\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
[15:13:56] Error obtaining information (tsMuxeR)!(00000.mpls)...
[15:13:56] No valid information found! (00000.mpls)...

means that multiAVCHD tries to obtain info (using tsmuxer) and it doesn't work... It doesn't have anything to do with your source. :(

[desray]

Gosh...what's with this mpls (playlist) thing going on? I haven't really try the new feature as I dun need to get the chapters to work...but issit really that hard to get it work? deank, can you list down the step(s) perhaps on how to go about doing it? I can try to help out in the testing and see what's wrong...

From the screenshots, I guess all I need to do is to use TXMuxer and add the PLAYLIST (with files extension 'mpls') and mux it, right? So the result will be having the movie with chapter markers added in, right?

[desray]

TSMuxer 1.9.9 just released!

[jdeiro]

Funny thing happened: LID for POR worked today!! WTF!?!?! Anything changed??

Cheers!

[navycrow]

Yesss !

@deank : your clue about cmd.exe put me on the runway

cmd.exe in the multiAVCHD not worked but....

it make me realize the problem could be the directory where i put the multiAVCHD (in my case : D:\- APPLICATIONS -\- Utilitaires vidéo -\multiAVCHD) so i move
multiAVCHD to C:\multiAVCHD
and TADAAAA !!!!!!
It works !

So thx a lot. :)

[deank]

@navycrow: :) That's good.

@jdeiro: No, nothing about LID's is added or changed for many builds.

@desray: Importing mpls is useful, because multiAVCHD cannot SPLIT bdmv/avchd input folders. If you import mpls file you can get something like 'movie-only' copy of your Blu-ray disc on USB or in 4GiB FAT32 compatible chunks... etc.

********

Some small changes in 524:

* Count of output audio tracks extended to 16 (was 10)
* Count of output subtitle tracks extended to 16 (was 10)
* Possible fix for users with Avisynth not being detected properly

[desray]

I see...thanks for enlightening me. :) And navycrow, congrats to your success in making it work! ;)

[navycrow]

Yes it works well now but....
i think there is a problem with the identification of language tag when importing LPMS playlist

Here is what multiAVCHD detect :
[13:35:49] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[13:35:49] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[13:35:49] Detected audio: A_LPCM (TID#4352 / language: und)
[13:35:49] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4353 / language: eng)
[13:35:49] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4354 / language: eng)
[13:35:49] Detected audio: A_DTS (TID#4355 / language: fra)
[13:35:49] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4356 / language: ita)
[13:35:49] Detected audio: A_DTS (TID#4357 / language: ita)
[13:35:49] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4358 / language: deu)
[13:35:49] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: deu)
[13:35:49] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
[13:35:49] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4610 / language: eng)
[13:35:49] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4611 / language: fra)
[13:35:49] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4612 / language: fra)
[13:35:49] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4613 / language: ita)
[13:35:49] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4614 / language: ita)
[13:35:49] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4615 / language: deu)
[13:35:49] Detected media file: 00000.m2ts


Here is what i should have :
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8476/kingarthur.jpg

soundtracks and subtitles are shifted

1st audio track which should be ENG -> become UND
3rd wich should be FRA -> become ENG
etc... and the same for subtitles

[deank]

@navycrow: Sorry for that... Just restart your multiAVCHD - it should update itself and get the fix. Please let me know if it worked this time.

[navycrow]

the log seems to report good tags now. i test it and give the feedback but it looks better.

[ramonchin]

Hi Deank!

Don't forget DTS to AC3 option please. :)

Thanks.

[deank]

It is added.... and will work for MKV/MP4/MOV files.

So with this option now (in Audio / Subtitles) and with the other (HD audio to AC3) you can enable avchd-compliant audio mode.

MKV files with HD audio or with DTS audio will get their audio converted to LPCM or AC3 - formats which are a standard in AVCHD specs.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_as.jpg

[schlaufer]

Hi deank,

during my attempt to rebuild my HD DVD of Bourne Ultimatum as BD with the help of multiAVCHD, I've noticed a few things worth mentioning:

1. Off-by-1-bug when loading MPLS:
When I load a playlist for a movie with multiple sub-titles in different languages, the language codes are assigned wrong by multiAVCHD. The sequence deu-deu-eng-eng ist turned into unk-deu-deu-eng

2. Menu bug with PowerDVD 7 (may be PowerDVD or multiAVCHD related)
The XMB-menu works fine the first time I select a movie/chapter from it. But when I select menu from running movie, I can't navigate the menu any longer. I need to press STOP and start the BD again in order to be able to navigate.

3. Non-US-Chars in filenames bug.
If one of the BD directory structures is placed below a directory with a non-US char (in this particular case A-Umlaut), the file name is not correctly passed to tsMuxer. Not a big issue, but one has to be careful in naming directories.

4. Issues with MPEG2/480i extras
The extras are encoded in MPEG2 and have a resolution of 480i. TsMuxer muxes them fine and I can play the resulting m2ts w/o any issues in VLC, but when I play the corresponding movie in PD7, the image remains black (the chapter thumbnails are created fine, though). I can't remember, if I had the force/fixe resolution switch on in multiAVCHD, this may be the source of the problem.

5. DaemonTools/PD7 size issue
Not at all related to multiAVCHD but may cause grieve to others, so I mention it:
During testing, I create BD images with ImgBurn and mount them with Daemon Tools Lite to play them with PD7. There are at two conditions when PowerDVD refuses to recognise the mounted image:
a) the size of the image is smaller than 8.5GB (DVD9) or
b) I have a blank in the volume label of the image.

So far, thanks for the program and keep up with development at breath-taking pace!

[deank]

Hi deank,

1. Off-by-1-bug when loading MPLS:
When I load a playlist for a movie with multiple sub-titles in different languages, the language codes are assigned wrong by multiAVCHD. The sequence deu-deu-eng-eng ist turned into unk-deu-deu-eng

It was fixed earlier today in build 525.

2... 4... 5...

PowerDVD is not the best software to test with and I do not support any problems which one may have while using multiAVCHD and testing/using PDVD. multiAVCHD is (mostly) for hardware players.

Try to use VirtualCloneDrive (or something alike).. not Daemon tools for mounting the iso. Other users reported problems with DTools and the inability of PDVD to play such .iso files.

Dean

p.s. (edit) A small test that can prove me right or wrong is to use the same .iso that PDVD has problems with and burn it to DVD/BD (depending on the options you used in multiAVCHD), play it in some stand-alone-player (SAP) and compare the results.

[desray]

Hi deank, I am wondering can you add a shutdown the PC feature on multiAVCHD after processing the files?

[deank]

I can but I will not... multiAVCHD usually takes 5 to 30 minutes to complete its job and while it's still under heavy development I'd rather have users watching what it is doing, instead of going for a beer or to bed ;)

[desray]

I can but I will not... multiAVCHD usually takes 5 to 30 minutes to complete its job and while it's still under heavy development I'd rather have users watching what it is doing, instead of going for a beer or to bed ;)

Ok. :rolleyes:

[schlaufer]

Try to use VirtualCloneDrive (or something alike).. not Daemon tools for mounting the iso. Other users reported problems with DTools and the inability of PDVD to play such .iso files.

...

p.s. (edit) A small test that can prove me right or wrong is to use the same .iso that PDVD has problems with and burn it to DVD/BD (depending on the options you used in multiAVCHD), play it in some stand-alone-player (SAP) and compare the results.

I have no SAP as I am using an HTPC with an LG-Bluray/HD-DVD drive for watching my Hires movies.

Imho, a HTPC with PD7 (dis-)qualifies itself as an SAP as the PS3 does - it's a Von Neuman machine running software to play Blu-Ray movies. And I can watch all of my commercial BD w/o any issues.

I've explicitly mentioned PD7 as software, as it may issues others do not have. The test, if the multiAVCHD XMB-menu is still working after starting a movie (and jumping to the top-menu) can be easily exercised by anybody who has burnt a DVD/BD with multiple movies and chapters - I just want here results and point possible issues.

If someone with an SAP is willing to perform a test on the MPEG2/480i material, I can provide a 2min sample (57MB), just drop me a PN.

And regarding Daemon Tools/PD7 - I've read various messages in this forum referring to the problem, but none tracking it down. It's as easy if I wrote: if the disk is large enough (greater than a DL-DVD) it works, otherwise not. This was just a hint to other testers.

[ramonchin]

[QUOTE=deank;1274254]It is added.... and will work for MKV/MP4/MOV files.

So with this option now (in Audio / Subtitles) and with the other (HD audio to AC3) you can enable avchd-compliant audio mode.

MKV files with HD audio or with DTS audio will get their audio converted to LPCM or AC3 - formats which are a standard in AVCHD specs.]

Thanks Deank

[deank]

Imho, a HTPC with PD7 (dis-)qualifies itself as an SAP as the PS3 does - it's a Von Neuman machine.

You can't compare PS3 with any software player. PS3 BD/AVCHD player is almost as having sony bdp player aside.

I did more than 100 compilations and never had problems with menu or its visualisation (using DVD or USB).

Examine your log tab because sometimes there are errors which affect menu creation.

[schlaufer]

Maybe I've expressed myself not clear enough:
The menu works fine when I start the BD the first time.
But when switch to the menu from a running movie I can't navigate the menu any longer.
Nevertheless, here is the log (timestamps omitted to match the 16k limit). I can't spot any error
Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 525)
Processing 11 input files/folders.
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (J:\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 1920x1080
Detected video: V_MS/VFW/WVC1 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: und)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4353 / language: ger)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4354 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4610 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4611 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4612 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4613 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4614 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000;00:04:01.000;00:09:44.533;00:13:55.365;00:20:59.583
Detected chapter mark: 00:27:49.365;00:31:43.950;00:38:41.114;00:43:48.114;00:49:58.916
Detected chapter mark: 00:58:08.282;01:05:30.833;01:10:30.666;01:15:44.033;01:20:31.114
Detected chapter mark: 01:25:02.166;01:31:28.283;01:35:51.533;01:42:04.698;01:46:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-193334-7948\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-193334-7948\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-193334-7948\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:04:01.000;00:09:44.533;00:13:55.365;00:20:59.583;00:27:49.365;00:31:43.950;00:38:41.114;00:43:48.114;00:49:58.916;00:58:08.282;01:05:30.833;01:10:30.666;01:15:44.033;01:20:31.114;01:25:02.166;01:31:28.283;01:35:51.533;01:42:04.698;01:46:00.000;
Converting to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\Deleted Scenes-uncropped.mkv).
meta line: A_AC3, "D:\Bourne III\Deleted Scenes-uncropped.mkv", track=1, lang=eng
Detected audio: ID#1:A_AC3:audio (48000Hz/2ch) Language: eng
Detected video: ID#2:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC:720x480 29.970fps (AR:1.5)
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Adding subtitles (Deleted Scenes-uncropped.0.deu.sup) (deu)
Adding subtitles (Deleted Scenes-uncropped.1.eng.sup) (eng)
Searching for original chapters (mediainfo)...
Checking for external chapters (D:\Bourne III\Deleted Scenes-uncropped.txt)...
Using external chapters...
Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:24).
Compliant with L4.1 for 720x480p.
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxer)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194703-1431\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00001.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194703-1431\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194703-1431\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00001.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:01:27.000;00:03:21.000;00:04:19.000;00:05:03.000;00:06:12.500;00:07:43.750;00:09:19.200;00:10:13.500;00:11:47.500;
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\Berlin\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 720x480.
Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194717-3769\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00002.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194717-3769\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194717-3769\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00002.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000;
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\London\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 720x480.
Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194731-4720\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00003.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194731-4720\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00003.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194731-4720\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00003.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:01;00:05:00;00:10:00;00:15:00;00:20:00;00:25:00;00:30:00;00:35:00;00:40:00;00:45:00;00:50:00;00:55:00;01:00:00;01:05:00;01:10:00;01:15:00;01:20:00;01:25:00;01:30:00;01:35:00;01:40:00;01:45:00;01:50:00;01:55:00;02:00:00;02:05:00;02:10:00;02:15:00;02:20:00;02:25:00;02:30:00;02:35:00;02:40:00;02:45:00;02:50:00;02:55:00;03:00:00;03:05:00;03:10:00;03:15:00;03:20:00;03:25:00;03:30:00;03:35:00;03:40:00;03:45:00;03:50:00;03:55:00;
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\Madrid\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 720x480.
Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194736-4341\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00004.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194736-4341\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00004.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194736-4341\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00004.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:01;00:05:00;00:10:00;00:15:00;00:20:00;00:25:00;00:30:00;00:35:00;00:40:00;00:45:00;00:50:00;00:55:00;01:00:00;01:05:00;01:10:00;01:15:00;01:20:00;01:25:00;01:30:00;01:35:00;01:40:00;01:45:00;01:50:00;01:55:00;02:00:00;02:05:00;02:10:00;02:15:00;02:20:00;02:25:00;02:30:00;02:35:00;02:40:00;02:45:00;02:50:00;02:55:00;03:00:00;03:05:00;03:10:00;03:15:00;03:20:00;03:25:00;03:30:00;03:35:00;03:40:00;03:45:00;03:50:00;03:55:00;
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\New York\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 720x480.
Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194741-5076\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00005.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194741-5076\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194741-5076\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00005.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:01;00:05:00;00:10:00;00:15:00;00:20:00;00:25:00;00:30:00;00:35:00;00:40:00;00:45:00;00:50:00;00:55:00;01:00:00;01:05:00;01:10:00;01:15:00;01:20:00;01:25:00;01:30:00;01:35:00;01:40:00;01:45:00;01:50:00;01:55:00;02:00:00;02:05:00;02:10:00;02:15:00;02:20:00;02:25:00;02:30:00;02:35:00;02:40:00;02:45:00;02:50:00;02:55:00;03:00:00;03:05:00;03:10:00;03:15:00;03:20:00;03:25:00;03:30:00;03:35:00;03:40:00;03:45:00;03:50:00;03:55:00;
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\Paris\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 720x480.
Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194753-175\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00006.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194753-175\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00006.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194753-175\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00006.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:01;00:05:00;00:10:00;00:15:00;00:20:00;00:25:00;00:30:00;00:35:00;00:40:00;00:45:00;00:50:00;00:55:00;01:00:00;01:05:00;01:10:00;01:15:00;01:20:00;01:25:00;01:30:00;01:35:00;01:40:00;01:45:00;01:50:00;01:55:00;02:00:00;02:05:00;02:10:00;02:15:00;02:20:00;02:25:00;02:30:00;02:35:00;02:40:00;02:45:00;02:50:00;02:55:00;03:00:00;03:05:00;03:10:00;03:15:00;03:20:00;03:25:00;03:30:00;03:35:00;03:40:00;03:45:00;03:50:00;03:55:00;
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\Tangier\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 720x480.
Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194758-4919\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00007.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194758-4919\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00007.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194758-4919\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00007.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000;
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\Rooftop\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 720x480.
Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194804-7785\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00008.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194804-7785\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00008.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194804-7785\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00008.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000;
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\Rumpeln\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 720x480.
Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194811-6296\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00009.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194811-6296\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194811-6296\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00009.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:01;00:05:00;00:10:00;00:15:00;00:20:00;00:25:00;00:30:00;00:35:00;00:40:00;00:45:00;00:50:00;00:55:00;01:00:00;01:05:00;01:10:00;01:15:00;01:20:00;01:25:00;01:30:00;01:35:00;01:40:00;01:45:00;01:50:00;01:55:00;02:00:00;02:05:00;02:10:00;02:15:00;02:20:00;02:25:00;02:30:00;02:35:00;02:40:00;02:45:00;02:50:00;02:55:00;03:00:00;03:05:00;03:10:00;03:15:00;03:20:00;03:25:00;03:30:00;03:35:00;03:40:00;03:45:00;03:50:00;03:55:00;
Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (D:\Bourne III\Test Drive\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
M2TS stream split set at 31999MiB...
Detected resolution: 720x480.
Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: ger)
Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000
Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
Done!
CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194818-5159\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\CLIPINF\00010.clpi
M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194818-5159\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts
MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090415-194818-5159\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD_BOURNE\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00010.mpls
Will use chapter marks: 00:00:01;00:05:00;00:10:00;00:15:00;00:20:00;00:25:00;00:30:00;00:35:00;00:40:00;00:45:00;00:50:00;00:55:00;01:00:00;01:05:00;01:10:00;01:15:00;01:20:00;01:25:00;01:30:00;01:35:00;01:40:00;01:45:00;01:50:00;01:55:00;02:00:00;02:05:00;02:10:00;02:15:00;02:20:00;02:25:00;02:30:00;02:35:00;02:40:00;02:45:00;02:50:00;02:55:00;03:00:00;03:05:00;03:10:00;03:15:00;03:20:00;03:25:00;03:30:00;03:35:00;03:40:00;03:45:00;03:50:00;03:55:00;
Preparing authoring information...
Creating NTSC top menu.
Authoring menu (NTSC).
Creating menu backgrounds for 11 titles (XMB)...
Trying to use Directshow first...
Creating video backgrounds for XMB menu completed.
Authoring custom menu completed.
Setting menu for 11 titles...
Setting menu properties...
Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
Completed.
Done!
F:\AVCHD_BOURNE folder created!
Burn its CONTENTS to BD-R/RE UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
Launching ImgBurn...
You may now remove temp folder (F:\_TEMP\).
Your compilation contains 2hrs 56min 52sec of video material.
End of log.

[navycrow]

i've tested the MPLS import since the bugfix and now i confirm its ok with my first movie (king Arthur).

But there is two other problem.

1) With King Arthur movie :
I don't know why. With this movie the menu is not correctly generated (no XMB menu and no thumbnail although the options are checked and the log report there is 0 titles in the menu)
When i play it, i have the basic menu with no thumbnail, if i click ok, the movie start and play without problem
Here is the log :
[14:25:00] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 525)
[14:25:00] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[14:25:00] Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (E:\Le Roi Arthur\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
[14:25:00] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[14:25:00] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[14:25:01] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[14:25:01] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[14:25:01] Detected audio: A_LPCM (TID#4352 / language: eng)
[14:25:01] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4353 / language: eng)
[14:25:01] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4354 / language: fra)
[14:25:01] Detected audio: A_DTS (TID#4355 / language: ita)
[14:25:01] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4356 / language: ita)
[14:25:01] Detected audio: A_DTS (TID#4357 / language: deu)
[14:25:01] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4358 / language: deu)
[14:25:01] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: eng)
[14:25:01] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: eng)
[14:25:01] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4610 / language: fra)
[14:25:01] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4611 / language: fra)
[14:25:01] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4612 / language: ita)
[14:25:01] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4613 / language: ita)
[14:25:01] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4614 / language: deu)
[14:25:01] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4615 / language: deu)
[14:25:01] Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
[14:25:01] Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000;00:10:00.000;00:15:00.000;00:20:00.000
[14:25:01] Detected chapter mark: 00:25:00.000;00:30:00.000;00:35:00.000;00:40:00.000;00:45:00.000
[14:25:01] Detected chapter mark: 00:50:00.000;00:55:00.000;01:00:00.000;01:05:00.000;01:10:00.000
[14:25:01] Detected chapter mark: 01:15:00.000;01:20:00.000;01:25:00.000;01:30:00.000;01:35:00.000
[14:25:01] Detected chapter mark: 01:40:00.000;01:45:00.000;01:50:00.000;01:55:00.000;02:00:00.000
[14:25:01] Detected chapter mark: 02:05:00.000;02:10:00.000;02:15:00.000;02:20:00.000
[14:25:01] Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
[14:53:09] Done!
[14:53:13] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi
[14:53:14] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
[15:00:47] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00001.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00001.clpi
[15:00:48] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
[15:04:09] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00002.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00002.clpi
[15:04:09] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
[15:07:51] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00003.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00003.clpi
[15:07:51] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00003.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00003.m2ts
[15:10:43] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00004.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00004.clpi
[15:10:43] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00004.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00004.m2ts
[15:13:51] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00005.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00005.clpi
[15:13:51] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts
[15:17:05] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00006.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00006.clpi
[15:17:05] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00006.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00006.m2ts
[15:20:00] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00007.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00007.clpi
[15:20:00] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00007.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00007.m2ts
[15:23:05] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00008.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00008.clpi
[15:23:06] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00008.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00008.m2ts
[15:26:03] CLPI transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\CLIPINF\00009.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00009.clpi
[15:26:03] M2TS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts
[15:26:43] MPLS transfer: C:\TEMP\20090415-142501-5717\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls
[15:26:44] Preparing authoring information...
[15:26:44] Creating NTSC top menu.
[15:26:44] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[15:26:50] Creating menu backgrounds for 0 titles (XMB)...
[15:26:50] Creating video backgrounds for XMB menu completed.
[15:26:57] Authoring custom menu completed.
[15:26:57] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[15:26:58] Setting menu properties...
[15:26:58] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[15:26:58] Completed.
[15:26:58] Creating FAT32 compatible 8.3 filenames...
[15:26:59] Done!
[15:26:59] F:\AVCHD folder created!
[15:26:59] Copy F:\AVCHD to root of USB drive/disk or MemoryStick card.
[15:26:59] Copy F:\AVCHD to X:\PRIVATE\ of SD/MMC card.


2) The other problem affect my second movie : Changeling
The m2ts contains 3 video tracks (the movie+2 commentaries tracks). When importing the MPLS file, multiAVCHD seems to keep the 1st video track (commentary) when the good one is the third (movie).
When playing, i have only the commentary video track on screen. No movie.
Here is the specs of the m2ts :
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2333/changeling.jpg

Addentum :
i have noticed a little bug in the Menu tag -> Visual Settings -> Background. The value seems not be saved correctly. When a value is selected and the program is closed. The next time the program is launched, another value appears.

[deank]

@navycrow:

I found a major bug which affected MPLS import and other things. It is fixed in build 526.

About the background - it is not a bug - I set it to randomly change on start.

Video track is also fixed now...

@schlaufer: There is a slider in Menu tab - Frames to encode. Try with higher values to see what works for you. And update your multiAVCHD.

[navycrow]

Since the bugfixes in build 526.
My first movie is 100% perfect. Great work deank !:cool:

I'm actually trying to import the second movie (with the 3 video tracks). Feedback in a moment....

i have a question :
When i use an AVCHD movie alone created by TSMuxer or MKV2VOB. It's played by the PS3 according my language and subtitles preferences. In my case, FRENCH language and FRENCH subtitles (if necessary).
But when i use the multiAVCHD compilation. The PS3 play the first AUDIO track and the first SUBTITLES (if activated).
Is there a way to make multiAVCHD to respect the LANG et SUB prefs?

[deank]

Is there a way to make multiAVCHD to respect the LANG et SUB prefs?

What happens if you uncheck the option [x] Force subtitle track #1 in Audio/Subtitles tab?

*****

Please post the multiAVCHD log of your second movie (with 3 video tracks) when you're done with it. Thanks.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

The problem with DT and PowerDVD is that it emulates a CD-ROM disc for any ISO images < 1GB in size, a DVD-ROM for anything <= DVD9 size (4169920 sectors) and BD-R for anything bigger than that.

PowerDVD (and ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 3) will not play BD / AVCHD content from anything looking like a DVD-ROM.

Virtual CloneDrive has the advantage here in that it actually parses the image file (at least in the newer beta versions) and will mount an image (of any size) with a BDAV/BDMV folder in the root as a BD-R. That's why it works and DT doesn't.

[deank]

Thanks!

I have a question about ImgBurn. multiAVCHD uses .ibb to call ImgBurn after a compilation is finished. Can I put something in it to prevent ImgBurn of altering the folders (such as CERTIFICATE, etc...)?

Dean

[zoner]

hey, i just made a compilation of a 7 videos and XMB menu.
everything went fine except the first video.
his menu page looks like a Thumbnail Menu page with that default background and a title stating "Multiavchd custom Menu"
if i press down or up i can see that all the other videos and their pages are fine, and also an arrow is visible in the middle of that Thumbnail Menu page and the video works if i click it.
however this brings me to the second problem...i used the "Change first SRT line timing" and what i got was
[14:59:30] First subtitle time changed to (00:00:01,295 --> 00:00:00.000) result in only the first line of text from that SRT visible through the entire video, however all the other subs are fine.
the only second error i could find was [15:04:13] Chapter mark out of boundaries (00:00:01)! Last mark set to 0!
all the rest of the log seems fine with no error.

I hope that all the info needed :)

[deank]

@zoner: can you execute multiUPDATE and try with that faulty title again?

I fixed the SRT problem if end-time is also 00:00:00,000 but I'd like to know if the problem with the chapter and the menu page is fixed.

[navycrow]

@deank : my second movie (Changeling) with 3 video tracks is 100% perfect too !!!

Here is the log :
[14:23:20] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 526)
[14:23:20] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[14:23:21] Converting PLAYLIST to AVCHD (E:\Changeling.2008.1080p.Blu-ray.VC-1.DTS-HD.MA.5.1-DON\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
[14:23:21] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[14:23:21] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[14:23:22] Detected resolution: 720x480
[14:23:22] Detected video: V_MS/VFW/WVC1 (TID#6913)
[14:23:22] Detected video: V_MS/VFW/WVC1 (TID#6912)
[14:23:22] Detected video: V_MS/VFW/WVC1 (TID#4113)
[14:23:22] Only this video track will be kept!
[14:23:22] Detected audio: A_DTS (TID#4352 / language: eng)
[14:23:22] Detected audio: A_DTS (TID#4353 / language: fra)
[14:23:22] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: eng)
[14:23:22] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: spa)
[14:23:22] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4610 / language: fra)
[14:23:22] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4611 / language: fra)
[14:23:22] Detected media file: 00010.m2ts
[14:23:22] Detected chapter mark: 00:00:00.000;00:06:30.056;00:13:57.002;00:18:37.616;00:27:02.579
[14:23:22] Detected chapter mark: 00:36:52.084;00:43:20.472;00:50:51.047;00:57:18.351;01:06:05.586
[14:23:22] Detected chapter mark: 01:14:26.587;01:21:41.438;01:28:25.258;01:32:27.166;01:38:30.487
[14:23:22] Detected chapter mark: 01:46:41.728;01:55:12.155;02:01:36.205;02:08:14.103;02:14:39.654
[14:23:22] Detected chapter mark: 02:21:54.255
[14:23:22] Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
[14:44:28] Done!
[14:44:28] CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi
[14:44:28] M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
[14:44:28] CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\CLIPINF\00001.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00001.clpi
[14:44:28] M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
[14:44:28] CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\CLIPINF\00002.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00002.clpi
[14:44:28] M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
[14:44:28] CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\CLIPINF\00003.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00003.clpi
[14:44:28] M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\STREAM\00003.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00003.m2ts
[14:44:28] CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\CLIPINF\00004.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00004.clpi
[14:44:28] M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\STREAM\00004.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00004.m2ts
[14:44:29] CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\CLIPINF\00005.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00005.clpi
[14:44:29] M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts
[14:44:29] CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\CLIPINF\00006.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00006.clpi
[14:44:29] M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\STREAM\00006.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00006.m2ts
[14:44:29] CLPI transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\CLIPINF\00007.clpi -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF\00007.clpi
[14:44:29] M2TS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\STREAM\00007.m2ts -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00007.m2ts
[14:44:29] MPLS transfer: F:\_TEMP\20090416-142322-4207\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls -> F:\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls
[14:44:29] Processing playlist (00000.mpls)...
[14:44:35] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:06:30.056;00:13:57.002;00:18:37.616;00:27:02.579;00:36:52.084;00:43:20.472;00:50:51.047;00:57:18.351;01:06:05.586;01:14:26.587;01:21:41.438;01:28:25.258;01:32:27.166;01:38:30.487;01:46:41.728;01:55:12.155;02:01:36.205;02:08:14.103;02:14:39.654;02:21:54.255;
[14:44:37] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:06:30.056;00:13:57.002;00:18:37.616;00:27:02.579;00:36:52.084;00:43:20.472;00:50:51.047;00:57:18.351;01:06:05.586;01:14:26.587;01:21:41.438;01:28:25.258;01:32:27.166;01:38:30.487;01:46:41.728;01:55:12.155;02:01:36.205;02:08:14.103;02:14:39.654;02:21:54.255;
[14:44:38] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:06:30.056;00:13:57.002;00:18:37.616;00:27:02.579;00:36:52.084;00:43:20.472;00:50:51.047;00:57:18.351;01:06:05.586;01:14:26.587;01:21:41.438;01:28:25.258;01:32:27.166;01:38:30.487;01:46:41.728;01:55:12.155;02:01:36.205;02:08:14.103;02:14:39.654;02:21:54.255;
[14:44:40] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:06:30.056;00:13:57.002;00:18:37.616;00:27:02.579;00:36:52.084;00:43:20.472;00:50:51.047;00:57:18.351;01:06:05.586;01:14:26.587;01:21:41.438;01:28:25.258;01:32:27.166;01:38:30.487;01:46:41.728;01:55:12.155;02:01:36.205;02:08:14.103;02:14:39.654;02:21:54.255;
[14:44:42] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:06:30.056;00:13:57.002;00:18:37.616;00:27:02.579;00:36:52.084;00:43:20.472;00:50:51.047;00:57:18.351;01:06:05.586;01:14:26.587;01:21:41.438;01:28:25.258;01:32:27.166;01:38:30.487;01:46:41.728;01:55:12.155;02:01:36.205;02:08:14.103;02:14:39.654;02:21:54.255;
[14:44:44] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:06:30.056;00:13:57.002;00:18:37.616;00:27:02.579;00:36:52.084;00:43:20.472;00:50:51.047;00:57:18.351;01:06:05.586;01:14:26.587;01:21:41.438;01:28:25.258;01:32:27.166;01:38:30.487;01:46:41.728;01:55:12.155;02:01:36.205;02:08:14.103;02:14:39.654;02:21:54.255;
[14:44:46] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:06:30.056;00:13:57.002;00:18:37.616;00:27:02.579;00:36:52.084;00:43:20.472;00:50:51.047;00:57:18.351;01:06:05.586;01:14:26.587;01:21:41.438;01:28:25.258;01:32:27.166;01:38:30.487;01:46:41.728;01:55:12.155;02:01:36.205;02:08:14.103;02:14:39.654;02:21:54.255;
[14:44:47] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:06:30.056;00:13:57.002;00:18:37.616;00:27:02.579;00:36:52.084;00:43:20.472;00:50:51.047;00:57:18.351;01:06:05.586;01:14:26.587;01:21:41.438;01:28:25.258;01:32:27.166;01:38:30.487;01:46:41.728;01:55:12.155;02:01:36.205;02:08:14.103;02:14:39.654;02:21:54.255;
[14:44:47] Preparing authoring information...
[14:44:47] Creating PAL top menu.
[14:44:47] Authoring menu (PAL).
[14:44:53] Creating menu backgrounds for 1 titles (XMB)...
[14:44:59] Creating video backgrounds for XMB menu completed.
[14:45:08] Authoring custom menu completed.
[14:45:08] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[14:45:08] Setting menu properties...
[14:45:08] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[14:45:09] Completed.
[14:45:09] Creating FAT32 compatible 8.3 filenames...
[14:45:09] Done!
[14:45:09] F:\AVCHD folder created!
[14:45:09] Copy F:\AVCHD to root of USB drive/disk or MemoryStick card.
[14:45:09] Copy F:\AVCHD to X:\PRIVATE\ of SD/MMC card.




What happens if you uncheck the option [x] Force subtitle track #1 in Audio/Subtitles tab?

*****

Please post the multiAVCHD log of your second movie (with 3 video tracks) when you're done with it. Thanks.

If this option is unchecked, Audio is according my LANGUAGE prefs and SUBTITLES too. Perfect. It's like TSMuxer and MKV2VOB now, thx.

By the way, some movies like mine contains 2 FRENCH audio tracks. The first is normal, the second is FORCED. Is it possible to force to display the FORCED one in AVCHD mode automatically when FRENCH language is selected just like in Blu-ray mode ????

[deank]

When you post your log, please use [ code ] [ / code ] tags, not the quote ones..

I don't think I can make what you're asking about the forced subs/audio.

Also - please update to 527.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Thanks!

I have a question about ImgBurn. multiAVCHD uses .ibb to call ImgBurn after a compilation is finished. Can I put something in it to prevent ImgBurn of altering the folders (such as CERTIFICATE, etc...)?

Dean

Hmm not really, no.

There are 2 settings for that but they're not part of the IBB stuff.

I assume you're really talking about having ImgBurn not prompt to a include the (existing) CERTIFICATE folder which has been left out on purpose (probably for compatibility reasons) and not to make an empty one either?

[deank]

The .ibb I pass to ImgBurn has:

[START_BACKUP_LIST]
new_path & BDMV\
new_path & CERTIFICATE\
[END_BACKUP_LIST]

or

[START_BACKUP_LIST]
new_path & BDMV\
[END_BACKUP_LIST]

and I'd expect to have only BDMV in the second case.

The reason I was asking about it is that CERTIFICATE folder has no place in AVCHD structures and may confuse many players, which otherwise would play the content. It is not like the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS for DVDs.

Different players have different logic on determining content and it is:

1) Some players will first check the media (DVD or BD-R) and act accordingly (DVD - AVCHD - no CERTIFICATE)
2) Other players will check folders first and if CERTIFICATE/AUXDATA are present will treat it as BD-R
3) other won't care at all and will ignore media and folders but will care only for BDMV/CLIPINF/PLAYLIST.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I can add another cli parameter to disable it prompting to add an existing one / adding an empty one automatically.

[deank]

:) Okay... I'd then switch to ImgBurn CLI, instead of .ibb... I just thought that it is better to use .ibb's.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

By passing the IBB file as a parameter, you're technically already using CLI! ImgBurn just translates that parameter (if it's the only one) internally to /SRC "parameter" and sets the mode accordingly (ibb = build, image files = write).

Now you'll have to use something like:

ImgBurn.exe /MODE BUILD /SRC "[ibb file name]" /CERTIFICATEFOLDER NO

Please note that '/CERTIFICATEFOLDER NO' will not prevent it from adding one to the disc if it is actually present in the Source box.

[deank]

Oh, that's great :) Thanks for taking my suggestion. I just hope that it will make life easier for a lot of people.

[deank]

In build 527 (you may need to update manually with multiUPDATE.exe):

* Changed: Title font color is now 100% opaque (60% in previous builds)
* Changed: Title font outline is now 100% opaque (60% in previous builds)
* Added: tsMuxeR functionality check on load (for mpls file import only)
* Fixed: unnecessary parsing of missing CERTIFICATE to ImgBurn if "Strict AVCHD mode" is enabled for [AVCHD to DVD/BD-R]
* Major fix: Problems may arise if more than 10 audio or 10 subtitle tracks are present in output compilation or in input AVCHD folders
* Fixed: Problems with some menu pages when chapter-errors occur and bare "multiavchd custom menu" page is shown with navigation arrows
* Fixed: When loading mpls file with multiple VIDEO tracks - only primary video track (id 4113/0x1011) will be used

[herrde]

* Added: tsMuxeR functionality check on load (for mpls file import only)

Hi Dean,

I have just done a full install of the latest multiAVCHD version and have run multiupdate afterwards and updated to build 527. I then updated tsmuxer within the "tools" folder to the latest version (1.9.9).

Still, I receive the following lines in the log window everytime when starting multiAVCHD:

[00:53:35] tsMuxeR not responding properly!
[00:53:35] MPLS file import will not work.


What's wrong here?

Thanks for your help,

Gero

[deank]

It means that "cmd.exe /c tsmuxer.exe > tslogfile.txt" command is not working... It is used only when importing blu-ray playlists. Until roman makes tsmuxer to output a log file it will be that way.... you can also try to make a copy of cmd.exe to multiAVCHD folder to check if it will work.

Full downloads (and .exe only) for:

* multiAVCHD (build 528) (includes latest popBD and uncropMKV)
* popBD ver 0.6
* uncropMKV ver 0.6

are updated.

Check the links in the first page of each thread. multiAVCHD and popBD include tsMuxer 1.9.9.

***

Also in build 528 [x] Force subtitle track#1 won't affect audio streams anymore.

[turbojet]

Should every player that plays without a menu also support with a menu?

[deank]

I think so. Exception may be players with profile 3, which are not bound to show menu:

Functions of BD-ROM Profile 3 Players
Required functions of the BD-ROM Players which complies with BD-ROM Profile 3 are the same as
for the BD-ROM Players which complies with BD-ROM Profile 1 and BD-ROM Profile 2, except that
• Only the following user operations are mandatory for the BD-ROM Players which complies with
BD-ROM Profile 3:
􀂅 Skip to Next Point() UO
􀂅 Skip Back to Previous Point()UO
􀂅 Play FirstPlay() UO
􀂅 Stop() UO
􀂅 Still Off() UO
• Output of video and graphics data is not available. However, decoding of the Interactive
Graphics stream still needs to be supported, so that that buttons which activate automatically
(without requiring the Activate Button user operation) will still activate automatically, and so that
any button related user operations that are supported by the BD-ROM Player are correctly
handled.
• BD-J is not applicable.
• Player function of Browsable slideshow is not applicable.
• Player function of Audio mixing model is not applicable.
• Player function of Binding Unit manifest file is not applicable.
• Player function of Local storage and Virtual File System is not applicable.

[schlaufer]

@deank:
I've tested multiAVCHD 527 yesterday evening (with tsMuxer 1.9.9). Unfortunately it did not solve my problem with the black 480i/MPEG2 title.
I've also moved the slider for encoded menu frames to the far right, and this actually made the problem with menu navigation worse. Now I can't navigate any longer after I first switched title in menu (i.e. move one title down).

@LightningUK:
Can you give me a hint where to find documentation about .MDS files? I am thinking of manipulating the virtual size of an image in order to force DT to emulate a BD - this would speed up testing a lot. A mount option for DT would be preferable, but I am always open to hacks, if they work.

[elijah.baley]

Hello Dean,

1. I have updated the Language File to the latest changes.

http://rapidshare.com/files/222421468/multiLANG_deu.txt.html

2. However, there is a quite little and mostly insignificant bug in the "Abort compilation" routine which only terminates the currently running operation and not aborting the whole process. After trying to abort, subsequent batch processes continue until finished.

Stefan

[deank]

@deank:
I've tested multiAVCHD 527 yesterday evening (with tsMuxer 1.9.9). Unfortunately it did not solve my problem with the black 480i/MPEG2 title.


Please update again with multiUPDATE.exe and try with this 480i file. I did some changes and it should work.


1. I have updated the Language File to the latest changes.

2. However, there is a quite little and mostly insignificant bug in the "Abort compilation" routine which only terminates the currently running operation

1) Updated
2) Fixed.

[schlaufer]

Updated 19:07 CEST to Build 529, unfortunately it didn't solve the problem. :(
Thanks for trying, tough.

Update:
I've now tested the movie again on my HTPC which has a less powerful, but more recent GPU, and now the BD works like a charm. :D

Thanks a lot for the support.

[deank]

I'm glad.

Last build uses different settings for XMB menu creation (should look better) and other fixes which should improve playback.

[laserfan]

I see there is now a way to import a .mpls from an original disc, and thus multiAVCHD can detect/retain original chapter marks, but is there any way, if I've re-encoded the original, to have it import the 264, ac3, subtitle, and --custom-chapter list I've created? is there an option to have multiAVCHD pause at the .meta file/tsMuxeR step so I can insert new chapters into the .meta file?

[deank]

You can create a folder with your movie's files

movie.264
movie.ac3
movie.dts
movie.srt
movie.sup
movie.txt (with your custom chapters)

load movie.264 (with settings to add external audio-tracks) and you will get what you need.

You can also take a look at the first post of the thread.

[desray]

Wow deank, now that you have an almost perfect software to boot...should you consider getting to improve on the visual aspects of this great authoring tool? :P Say animated menu and better flavours in menu positioning? And you still remember my wishlist?

[deank]

It's 'almost perfect' since day one... but simply put - it is not at all what I want it to be :)

Menu manipulation and templates are a tough thing to do. What was your wish list?

***

I'm also trying to implement UMD movie (playlist.umd playlist) import (UMD video discs for PSP). CLPI files look a bit different in UMD's CLIPINF folder and STREAM folder contains MPS files (MPEG-PS) instead of M2TS (MPEG-TS) but it works. Still the problem is the audio in MPS. If anyone has any info on audio extraction (ATRACplus) from MPS - let me know. It is a nice way to backup (and play in your PS3 or BD player) these 720x480i videos.

[desray]

Recap on wishlist...

Actually its not that hard to implement since the hardest part is over...hehehe...
I looking for a way to play only CERTAIN TITLES at start-up (Autoplay) and after which resume to the menu page.

For instance, I got the following clips in order...

Title 1 (Movie trailer 1)
Title 2 (Movie trailer 2)
Title 3 (Movie trailer 3)
Title 4 (Movie clip)
Title 5 (Movie clip)
.
.
Title 18 (Movie clip)

If possible, I will like to have Title 1 -3 autoplay upon disc insertion. Then after playback of the 3 titles, it will resume to Menu mode so that I can choose to play which movie clips (i.e. menu 4 - 18) in order of my preference. I believed its not hard? Like I said this is just a value-added feature for me if you have the time to do it. Its not a pressing one so I leave it to you to consider when you have the bandwidth to spare.

[laserfan]

You can create a folder with your movie's files

movie.264
movie.ac3
movie.dts
movie.srt
movie.sup
movie.txt (with your custom chapters)

load movie.264 (with settings to add external audio-tracks) and you will get what you need.

You can also take a look at the first post of the thread.If this info is in the first post I'm damned if I can find it. Nor is it mentioned in the tutorial AFAICFind. Thanks!

[deank]

Take a look again. It was there for some months now. Just above the complete version log...

If adding FILES (mkv/264/mts/m2ts/mov/mpeg/mpg/ts), multiAVCHD will search for additional media (subtitles/audio/etc).

Example: your input (movie file) is called Test_movie.mkv

multiAVCHD can add corresponding:

Subtitles with LANGUAGE_CODE_ID (LID):...

[Bajunid]

Dean,

I'm having trouble making my anime collection from MKV with ass subs into AVCHD with subtitles. These are anime mkv with 1280*720, a compliant file with ass subs in the mkv file.

The resulted AVCHD folder plaed fine but there are no subtitles. Other mkv with SRT subtitles worked fine but not this one.

The log shows no error, any reason why it's so?

[22:20:17] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 529)
[22:20:17] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[22:20:17] Converting to BDMV structure (G:\Video\Anime\Series\Incomplete\Michiko.mkv).
[22:20:17] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC:1280x720 23.976fps (AR:1.78)
[22:20:17] meta line: A_AC3, "G:\Video\Anime\Series\Incomplete\Michiko.mkv", track=2, lang=jpn
[22:20:17] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3:audio (48000Hz/2ch) Language: jpn
[22:20:17] Detected subtitles: ID#3:S_TEXT/ASS Language: eng
[22:20:17] Extracting SSA subtitle tracks.
[22:20:17] Plase wait - it may take a while!
[22:20:20] Converting to SRT...
[22:20:20] Converting G:\Video\Anime\Series\Incomplete\Michiko.eng.tid_3.ssa to SRT...
[22:20:20] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[22:20:20] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[22:20:20] Searching for original chapters (mediainfo)...
[22:20:20] Using original chapters.
[22:20:20] Detected frame reference count: 8 (max:9).
[22:20:20] Compliant with L4.1 for 1280x720p.
[22:20:20] Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxer)...
[22:20:25] Done!
[22:20:25] CLPI transfer: 00000.clpi -> 00000.clpi
[22:20:25] M2TS transfer: 00000.m2ts -> 00000.m2ts
[22:20:25] MPLS transfer: 00000.mpls -> 00000.mpls
[22:20:25] Processing playlist (00000.mpls)...
[22:20:26] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:00:00;00:02:18;00:00:00;
[22:20:26] Preparing authoring information...
[22:20:26] Creating NTSC top menu.
[22:20:32] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[22:20:33] Encoding menu pages (x264)...
[22:20:42] Muxing h264 stream for menu pages (tsMuxer)...
[22:20:42] Populating menu structure...
[22:20:42] Encoding navigational pages (x264)...
[22:20:54] Setting menu navigation...
[22:20:58] Authoring custom menu completed.
[22:20:59] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[22:20:59] Setting menu properties...
[22:20:59] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[22:20:59] Completed.
[22:20:59] Creating FAT32 compatible 8.3 filenames...
[22:20:59] Done!
[22:20:59] G:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD folder created!
[22:20:59] Copy G:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD to root of USB drive/disk or MemoryStick card.
[22:20:59] Copy G:\MultiAVCHD\AVCHD to X:\PRIVATE\ of SD/MMC card.

[deank]

Try to use NORMAL filenames without commas and a bit shorter. Also you can use [x] Change first SRT line timing option in Audio / Subtitles tab. Also if you can extract these SSA and send me a sample to look at?

[Bajunid]

1st - delete your log in the post because it seems the content is downloaded and - 2nd - try to use NORMAL filenames without commas and a bit shorter. Also you can use [x] Change first SRT line timing option in Audio / Subtitles tab. Also if you can extract these SSA and send me a sample to look at?

Hi Dean,

Thanks for the quick reply. I've tried your suggestion but it's not still working. Anyway I have another anime with two ASS subs and it's working fine..Dopn't know why this one is giving me trouble.

I've attached the subs files here. I change the extension to txt because of attachment limitation.

[deank]

Did you try [x] Change SRT... option?

You can send the file to my email address. It is in the ABOUT tab of multiAVCHD. It is possible that this specific SSA file has a problem that multiAVCHD cannot translate properly to SRT.

You can use the SSA with SubtitleWorkshop and fix it and save it as SubRip (srt) and then use it as external - it will probably work. But still I'd like to take a look at this problematic ssa file.

[Deepstar]

Hi deank,
multiAVCHD is a great Tool!
I have a question about the move option. If the temp Folder and the target the same, the m2ts Files will not Move. multiAVCHD copy the m2ts Files.
If you add an old AVCHD Folder created with mulltAVCHD, then the m2ts will move.
Can you please, add option to move m2ts files, from an existing BDMV or AVCHD Folder. Thats created with tsmuxer?
These save a lot of time on an USB Drive.

[deank]

I removed this MOVE option a long time ago, because some people got their ORIGINAL (and only copy) moved into multiAVCHD and it caused them troubles.

multiAVCHD moves only its own compilations. I can add another MOVE option, as many people asked about it.

[laserfan]

Take a look again. It was there for some months now. Just above the complete version log...Hmmm, I guess you're right--I was supposed to know that "/etc" means "and custom chapters.txt"! :rolleyes:

[Bajunid]

Did you try [x] Change SRT... option?

You can send the file to my email address. It is in the ABOUT tab of multiAVCHD. It is possible that this specific SSA file has a problem that multiAVCHD cannot translate properly to SRT.

You can use the SSA with SubtitleWorkshop and fix it and save it as SubRip (srt) and then use it as external - it will probably work. But still I'd like to take a look at this problematic ssa file.

I've sent you the ass subs to your mail. And yes I've tried with the CHANGE SRT option, still not working.

Pls have a look at teh subs. Thanking you in advance

[deank]

Can you please, add option to move m2ts files, from an existing BDMV or AVCHD Folder. Thats created with tsmuxer?
These save a lot of time on an USB Drive.

You'll find the option in SETTINGS in build 530. Done.

Option is (x) all - it will make ANY input files to be moved.

[Deepstar]

Oh!!!!!!!
Cool
This was fast!!!
Thanks!!

[deank]

I've sent you the ass subs to your mail. And yes I've tried with the CHANGE SRT option, still not working.

Pls have a look at teh subs. Thanking you in advance

I think it is fixed now.. along with other problems with SSA subtitles. Please check in build 532.

[Bajunid]

Hi Dean,

That was lightning fast!!!!Thank you for working hard on this...This definitely deserve a donation...wait till 25th (pay day) and I'll be sure to donate.

Unfortunately It's still not working, The log again did not indicate any error and there was no subtitles included in the mts file. While MultiAVCHD is running, I noticed that it did extract the ASS sub and delete it later however it was not included in the final mts file.

Another issue I noticed is that with another mkv anime with 2 ASS subtitles, it has taken the second subtitle file instead of the first one. In my example, first is English and the second is French, so my AVCHD ended up with French subs instead.

I have 5 episode in the series and 3 out of the five ended up with French subs. I checked in each mkv and all of them have 4 tracks, first is video, followed by audio. Then the two subs where all have the English subs listed as 3rd track and French listed as 4th track.

I'm not sure why AVCHD picked the french sub on 3 out of the 5 files.

Maybe you could relook at the codes on teh above 2 issues. Thanks again Dean!

[PixelPipe]

Hi Dean,

After starting MultiAVCHD v2.5-529 it autoupdates to a new version.
When the autoupdate is done I get this error message when I like to start:
http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9787&stc=1&d=1240074525

Greetings, PixelPipe

[deank]

@Bajunid: Ok.. sorry about it.. I left out a '/' and it broke it.. It works now in build 534. For safe reasons: run multiUPDATE.exe

I don't know about track order. If you can use your player "SUBTITLE" button - can you switch to other subtitles or it is only the French present?

@PixelPipe: I can't see the attached file. What does it say?

[PixelPipe]

Hi Dean,

it's a picture tha says says: Access violation at address 008c3338 in module 'calclib.dll'. Read of address 00489000

Greetings, PixelPipe

[deank]

1) There should be a "Line: xxx" message.
2) Try to delete your .ini file

[deank]

I have 5 episode in the series and 3 out of the five ended up with French subs. I checked in each mkv and all of them have 4 tracks, first is video, followed by audio. Then the two subs where all have the English subs listed as 3rd track and French listed as 4th track.

Can you run build 534 against these files (use [x] Verbose logging) and post your log, please?

I never took time to refine ssa processing because I don't have such files (mkv + ssa) and there was no way to debug... :(

[PixelPipe]

Hi Dean,

removing the ini-file worked...strange..
Anyway..Thanks for your help :)

Best regards, PixelPipe

[elijah.baley]

Hello Dean,

I have encountered another small difficulty with multiAVCHD although I suspect the problem as such is caused by tsmuxer. Playback of interlaced SD-video at 25/50i fps on my Sony BDP S-350 stutters after the initial 2-3 seconds. After some reading I have discovered that tsRemux seems to cause the same problems, therefor I suspect that tsmuxer changes the frequenz from 50Hz PAL zu 60 Hz resulting in the stuttering playback (pulldown?).

There is a way around this problem which involves multiplexing the files with MacOS Toast Titanium, but if it is indeed a problem of tsmuxer maybe there is a possibility to override its preset with the original media properties? But if not - it only occurs with interlaced Videos... and so far it is more or less a problem of Sony BDP's.

Stefan

[deank]

It is weird to have SD content stutter. Can you post your mediainfo log of such input file?

[elijah.baley]

Sorry for the delay ... I can give you two mediainfo logs - original file and a working (!) "toasted" file.

original:

Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 2.56 GiB
Duration : 1h 33mn
Overall bit rate : 3 914 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate : 3 503 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.338
==============================

toasted:

Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 2.67 GiB
Duration : 1h 33mn
Overall bit rate : 4 091 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 18.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate : 3 665 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 5/4
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.353

Stefan

[deank]

Does it stutter if you process it in tsMuxeR only?

Does BDedit show 576i if you open output bdmv files?

And not last but most important - is your player / TV PAL?

If not - you can't get rid of the stuttering. And most likely in this case it will be 'jumps', not stuttering.

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edit: use multiUPDATE.exe to minor-update your multiAVCHD and try again, will you?

[elijah.baley]

1. Yes, I had tested multiple ways to make those videos working, including tsmuxer only.

2. BDedit shows 576i for all video files - working / not working (and 1080i for the menu items).

3. the TV is PAL and the "toasted" Version works after all. But its menus are just horrible.


I have just run out of DVD+R :-( so I cannot test changes until next week.


Stefan

[nicchap]

Is it possible that m2ts files played from the BR menu will stutter, if played directly (from the streams menu) they do not stutter? That's exactly the problem I'm having on my PS3. Using the latest version (534) and still doing it.
Scenarios:

1) Insert flash drive with AVCHD folder into PS3 -> Select main playlist -> video stutters, audio clips
2) Browse same flash drive from PS3, play the main m2ts file directly, video and audio are fine.

Been dealing with this for a while now.

[coledow]

i am having some anime, mostly recent ones, freezing up when i play it on my blu ray player. well, the video freezes up the audio is fine. it will freeze on the first frame, if i hit skip, it will take a bit then skip to the next chapter where it'll again freeze on the first frame of that chapter. this is a HD 1280x720 video, and I made sure to force it to 4.1. But I have had other HD anime episodes work fine. I can't figure out what the difference is between the two kinds, they are both h264.

edit: ah, the newer ones have higher reference counts

[navycrow]

hi deank.
Your soft is working perfect for me ! But there is a very missing function. The most simple of the world to implement : The Auto-renaming of AVCHD folder.

If we want to add a new movie to an existing AVCHD folder.
We have to manually rename AVCHD to AVCHD_SOMETHING (for example) in the windows explorer. If not the program display an error message.

Is it possible to add a function to avoid this frustrating handling ??

[shv]

There are two bars on the lower left of MultiAVCHD. The light blue seams to work but the grey one above shows 185% after the first movie of a compilation is processed. Its value slightly increases while processing following streams. I don't know what this grey bar shall indicate.

[elijah.baley]

If we want to add a new movie to an existing AVCHD folder.
We have to manually rename AVCHD to AVCHD_SOMETHING (for example) in the windows explorer. If not the program display an error message.

Is it possible to add a function to avoid this frustrating handling ??

If I understand your problem correct, I suggest you make use of the "custom name" function in the right lower corner, that way your target AVCHD folder will look like this "c:\AVCHD_'custom name'" and your input AVCHD folder (i.e. "c:\AVCHD") remains untouched.

I think that should do the trick for you...

[deank]

Progress % is fixed and if you input AVCHD folder, it will be renamed before importing.

ALWAYS import avchd folders after CLEAN start of multiAVCHD, i.e. - don't do it after a compilation is finished.

If you make a compilation - CLOSE multiAVCHD and then if you need to do anything - start it again. Of course it won't work if you have the input AVCHD folder opened in other applications.

[navycrow]

If I understand your problem correct, I suggest you make use of the "custom name" function in the right lower corner, that way your target AVCHD folder will look like this "c:\AVCHD_'custom name'" and your input AVCHD folder (i.e. "c:\AVCHD") remains untouched.

I think that should do the trick for you...

Ok but in that way i ve to rename the AVCHD_CUSTOM into AVCHD after compilation. So the problem is the same,isn't it?

edit after just updating to build 535, i ve an error when i trying to do what you're say and the soft hangs !
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9282/erroriue.jpg

[deank]

Okay.. while having this error - can you go and rename this F:\AVCHD yourself? If it errors out it means the folder is LOCKED for some reason. There is nothing I can do.

[navycrow]

Okay.. while having this error - can you go and rename this F:\AVCHD yourself? If it errors out it means the folder is LOCKED for some reason. There is nothing I can do.

Are you sure of that ??
I've no other program running except multiAVCHD.
And the soft Unlocker tell me the folder is not locked !!!!
In my opinion if the folder was locked, i could'nt rename it with explorer. And i have no problem to rename it with explorer ...

[shv]

If I drop folders to multiAVCHD the AVCHD/BDMV processing is used by default. With some streams it takes some time to browse into the playlist folder of each stream to select the mpls file and browse out of the folder afterwards. Would it be possible maybe together with the Ctrl or Alt key to select mpls processing instead when I drop a folder to multiAVCHD? In case there are more than one mpls files available a selection window would be necessary to select the proper one.

[deank]

Yes, it is possible... I'll see how I will do it.

[navycrow]

i have a new video issue with a new movie (MPLS import) : Kung Fu Panda.
multiAVCHD keep the bad video track (commentary).
Here is the m2ts into TSMuxer :
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4923/kfp.jpg
and the log when importing :
[10:54:57] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 534)
[10:54:57] Processing 2 input files/folders.
[10:54:57] "Move transitional files" option will be applied!
[10:54:57] Input folder is multiAVCHD compilation and its contents will be moved.
[10:54:57] Already multiAVCHD. Skipping menu media (F:\AVCHD_old\).
[10:54:57] CLPI transfer: 00000.CPI -> 00000.clpi
[10:54:57] M2TS transfer: 00000.m2ts -> 00000.m2ts
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[10:55:42] Multiple playlists detected for this title - added as new titles!
[10:55:42] Converting PLAYLIST to BDMV (C:\VIDEOS\Kung Fu Panda BD\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls).
[10:55:42] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[10:55:42] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[10:55:43] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.9.7 http://www.smlabs.net
[10:55:43] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[10:55:43] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4114)
[10:55:43] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[10:55:43] Only this video track will be kept!
[10:55:43] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4352 / language: eng)
[10:55:43] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4353 / language: fra)
[10:55:43] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4354 / language: spa)
[10:55:43] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4355 / language: ita)
[10:55:43] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4356 / language: eng)
[10:55:43] Detected audio: A_AC3 (TID#4357 / language: eng)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4608 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4609 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4610 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4611 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4612 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4613 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4614 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4615 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4616 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected subtitles: S_HDMV/PGS (TID#4617 / language: und)
[10:55:43] Detected media file: 00000.m2ts
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[10:55:43] Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxeR)...
[11:02:37] Done!
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[11:02:38] Processing playlist (00003.mpls)...
[11:02:41] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000;00:10:00.000;00:15:00.000;00:20:00.000;00:25:00.000;00:30:00.000;00:35:00.000;00:40:00.000;00:45:00.000;00:50:00.000;00:55:00.000;01:00:00.000;01:05:00.000;01:10:00.000;01:15:00.000;01:20:00.000;01:25:00.000;01:30:00.000;
[11:02:42] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:05:00.000;00:10:00.000;00:15:00.000;00:20:00.000;00:25:00.000;00:30:00.000;00:35:00.000;00:40:00.000;00:45:00.000;00:50:00.000;00:55:00.000;01:00:00.000;01:05:00.000;01:10:00.000;01:15:00.000;01:20:00.000;01:25:00.000;01:30:00.000;
[11:02:42] Preparing authoring information...
[11:02:42] Creating PAL top menu.
[11:02:43] Authoring menu (PAL).
[11:02:49] Creating menu backgrounds for 4 titles (XMB)...
[11:02:56] Creating video backgrounds for XMB menu completed.
[11:04:12] Authoring custom menu completed.
[11:04:12] Setting menu for 4 titles...
[11:04:12] Setting menu properties...
[11:04:13] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[11:04:16] Completed.
[11:04:16] Creating FAT32 compatible 8.3 filenames...
[11:04:23] Done!
[11:04:23] F:\AVCHD folder created!
[11:04:23] Copy F:\AVCHD to root of USB drive/disk or MemoryStick card.
[11:04:23] Copy F:\AVCHD to X:\PRIVATE\ of SD/MMC card.

[jhmac]

Using MultiAVCHD v2.5 b535, under the Author tab when editing name I click to add poster image but nothing happens and it won't let me type into or paste into it. I do have XMB selected but can't figure this out. Please help me out with this.

Kopykat

[navycrow]

Using MultiAVCHD v2.5 b535, under the Author tab when editing name I click to add poster image but nothing happens and it won't let me type into or paste into it. I do have XMB selected but can't figure this out. Please help me out with this.

Kopykat

i think it is not implanted yet

[deank]

It keeps track ID#4113 which is supposed to be the main track. I don't see how they can be distinguished automatically... probably by their resolution, but it won't always work of course.

[navycrow]

And with the profile ??? commentary are generally with profile h.264 high@3.2... or vc-1 advanced@2, no ??

or a dialog box could propose the detected track and let the user accept or choose another one ??

edit :
i 've noticed too, in many movies the main video track is generally at the latest position of video tracks....

[jhmac]

Using MultiAVCHD v2.5 b535, under the Author tab when editing name I click to add poster image but nothing happens and it won't let me type into or paste into it. I do have XMB selected but can't figure this out. Please help me out with this.

Kopykat



i think it is not implanted yet


Any time frame available for this feature

[deank]

@navycrow: can you use multiUPDATE.exe and check with some of your multi-video mpls files?

@jhmac: there are other bugs that need more attention than making posters work.

[navycrow]

it's ok now with this movie. it kept the good video track.
in the next day i have other movie to test with multi video tracks... To continue....

i've again a little problem with this movie, there is an audio track (E-AC3) which causes ps3 to hang when selected. i have to test if i get the problem with a standalone avchd created by tsmuxer.

[deank]

Okay... but please test with the mpls's you've already used with multi-video tracks.. to see if it works with them too.

[navycrow]

I can't. The other blu-ray (Changeling) was rented. I don't have it no more. Sorry.
I will receive in the next days 3 new blu-ray disc. Some with multi video tracks, i think. I'll test with them.

[xeniste]

Hi Deank,

You're working hard, as usually - developping besides other tools - bravo!

Still two small questions.
1. Why cannot I change the coulour of the titles - it remains
silver as set by default. I use my own background, as in the past.

2. I have some clips recorded form the satellite in h.264 SD format, audio in mpeg. Normally it goes smooth, U must remember my problems ante eac3to. But if I cut commercials, I have a perfect normally playing .ts file without any problem, in which, after multiAVCHD, I have sound de-sync problem in the second part (after the cut point).

Why ?

Thanx in advance, and good luck!

[coledow]

i am having a problem with subtitles, if a subtitle text is very long, the text gets cut off, it doesn't do a word wrap and stack the text on top of each other. i almost think it makes 1080p subtitles for a 720p video.

[deank]

1. Why cannot I change the coulour of the titles - it remains
silver as set by default. I use my own background, as in the past.

I tested and it works... Can you use the Preview button and check if you see color change?


2. I have some clips recorded form the satellite in h.264 SD format, audio in mpeg. Normally it goes smooth, U must remember my problems ante eac3to. But if I cut commercials, I have a perfect normally playing .ts file without any problem, in which, after multiAVCHD, I have sound de-sync problem in the second part (after the cut point).

I think the problem is with tsmuxer and I posted a message to roman about it.

i am having a problem with subtitles, if a subtitle text is very long, the text gets cut off, it doesn't do a word wrap and stack the text on top of each other. i almost think it makes 1080p subtitles for a 720p video.

Use subtitle workshop or other tool to break long subtitles.

[deank]

If I drop folders to multiAVCHD the AVCHD/BDMV processing is used by default.

Build 536:

While drag/dropping if multiAVCHD detects presence of BDMV\PLAYLIST\0*.mpls it will show additional box if you want to select individual playlists. If you select 'ok' it will open directly the folder to multi-select mpls files to add to compilation.

If you select 'cancel' multiAVCHD will go to AVCHD/BDMV folder import mode (as in previous builds).

Also - a box will show asking if user wants to update to next version - this should prevent update looping for some users.

Build 537: Support for E-AC3 in m2ts/ts files (if importing as files).

[elijah.baley]

Hello Dean,

this has not so much to do with multiAVCHD - it is just to inform you about problems relating tsmuxer and Sony's S-350.
I am (almost) absolutley certain now, that tsmuxer is the program to "blame" for playback incompatibility issues wether or not the discs are burned with ImgBurn or TOAST(mac). I have trashed two DVD+Rs and one DVD-DL over this problem using different ways every time and thus, the results are neither complete nor iron hard proof but, these were the tests and the results:

1. muxing MKV's (576p) with TsMuxer (v.1.99, mac - TOAST has some troubles with MKV's) in .m2ts and burning those with Toast (1x) resulted in the worst stuttering/jumping playback encountered so far.

2. cutting MKV's (576p) with TsMuxer (v.1.99) as m2ts, muxing those with multiAVCHD and burning with TOAST (1x) results in a variety of playback issues. I.e. if "A" is a video containing 2 episodes "A1" and "A2" and those are cut and remuxed as two seperate .m2ts "A1" played back flawlessly whereas "A2" stuttered (but not as bad as in test 1). The stuttering however seized after a few desperate chapter jumps and forward/backward rewind.

3. cutting MKV's (576p) using MKVtoolnix (mac), multiplexing with multiAVCHD and burning with either program works very well - however, the Sony S-350 won't show either the running time of videos or the playback of menu in the display.


Later this day (evening) I will try to add a 576i video to an existing 576p collection after you reported some changes in Build 535.


I have a request though. Would it be possible to add "Font prop's for 480/576 conversions"? Except for FONT SIZE and OFFSET (FONT FAMILY?) is there much need for FONT COLOURS to differ between 720p and 1080p (or if possible 480/576)? If not, this part of the menu could be reduced to something like:
_____________________________________________________
| Font prop's for 480p conversions
| Size: Offset: Bold:
| Font prop's for 576p conversions
| Size: Offset: Bold:
| Font prop's for 720p conversions
| Size: Offset: Bold:
| Font prop's for 1080p conversions
| Size: Offset: Bold:
|
| Font prop's for all conversions
| Family:
| Colour: Border:
|_____________________________________________________


And possibly a little bug (?): adding external audio/subtitles works fine every time with .m2ts and .mkv's as input but not when using .264 as input even if everything else is the same. This just happend to be one of the many tests I tried not documented above.

Stefan

[deank]

576p/i 480p/i resolutions get their subtitles properties based on 720p settings - don't worry - it will work.

All my tests with .264 files show subtitles being imported...

[13:57:17] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.5 (build 537)
[13:57:17] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[13:57:17] Temp folder does not exist. Set to D:\_TEMP.
[13:57:17] Converting file to BDMV (D:\Downloads\__TEST\test_tour.264).
[13:57:17] Total of 1 tracks found in this file.
[13:57:17] Adding subtitles (test_tour.srt) (und)
[13:57:17] AR of 16:9 will be set for this title.
[13:57:17] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[13:57:17] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[13:57:17] Checking for external chapters (d:\downloads\__test\test_tour.txt)...
[13:57:17] Using external chapters...
[13:57:17] No audio tracks found!
[13:57:17] Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxer)...
[13:57:22] Done!
[13:57:22] Setting vertical resolution value (720).
[13:57:22] CLPI transfer: 00000.clpi -> 00000.clpi
[13:57:22] M2TS transfer: 00000.m2ts -> 00000.m2ts
[13:57:22] MPLS transfer: 00000.mpls -> 00000.mpls



Have in mind that 480p and 576p are not standard resolutions for AVCHD/BDMV. 480i and 576i are.

Can you do tests with older versions of tsMuxeR - like 1.8.34... And buy yourself a DVD-RW :)

[nicchap]

Dean,

quick question relating to a previous post of mine (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1275514#post1275514) Does a video stream (m2ts) play differently when initiated via your menu, then when played directly?
I using a NTSC PS3 system.

Thanks again for the excellent work,

NicChap

[deank]

Yes, PS3 uses different players for both modes.

I guess you should check your Display/Video settings in PS3. There are options for BD Video/Cinema conversion, for BD 24Hz playback... Try to change some of them and see if it will make any difference.

[herrde]

I guess you should check your Display/Video settings in PS3. There are options for BD Video/Cinema conversion, for BD 24Hz playback... Try to change some of them and see if it will make any difference.

For example, I think the PS3 doesn't switch to true 1080/24p mode (24 Hz output) if a *.m2ts file is being played in file mode. It has to be played in AVCHD/BD mode. Of course, the option has to be enabled first in the PS3 video settings.

Best,

Gero

[nicchap]

That's great to hear. I'll try and post results when I get home.

Nic.

[deank]

In build 538:

Download the FULL setup if you want to have sound notification when multiAVCHD finishes compiling.

playwav.exe and done.wav are added in tools folder. If you update to latest build but don't like the sound when multiAVCHD finishes - either delete \tools\done.wav or replace it with a (wav) file of your choice.

I kinda found it useful to know when it's done while minimized.

Dean

[Deepstar]

Hi,
2 Questions:
Is the number of chapters in xmb Menu limited to 12?
The Poster Image Button have no function. Is this to add a picture as thumbnail?

Deepstar

[deank]

1) Yes.
2) Yes, not yet.

[navycrow]

today i ve tested a new movie (day earth stool still) with multi video tracks. 100% perfect :)

And cherry on the cake, the audio and forced subtitles works according setting preferences (which was not the case before). Have u change something to support that ??

[Deepstar]

Ok, Thanks

[nicchap]

Yes, PS3 uses different players for both modes.

I guess you should check your Display/Video settings in PS3. There are options for BD Video/Cinema conversion, for BD 24Hz playback... Try to change some of them and see if it will make any difference.

Still stuttering after palying around with various PS3 settings. I'll try to rebuild everything with version 538, but I'm sure it will still happen, given the files play correctly when accessed directly.

[deank]

...the audio and forced subtitles works according setting preferences (which was not the case before). Have u change something to support that ??

Yes - I mentioned it. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274954#post1274954)

Still stuttering after palying around with various PS3 settings.

What media do you use for playback? Can you post what mediainfo says about these files? BD player part of PS3 cares a lot of frame-rate, resolution and other factors. XMB player - doesn't. So if you don't care about HD audio and subtitles - just play those files through XMB.

[nicchap]

Yes you had indeed told me about the PS3 settings, I quoted the wrong messages.

Here's what I get from mediainfo:

General
ID : 1
Complete name : c:\buffer\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 795 MiB
Duration : 5mn 6s
Overall bit rate : 21.8 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : High@High
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 5mn 6s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 20.1 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 40.0 Mbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.432

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Duration : 5mn 6s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Nic.

[deank]

Is there a chance that you convert PCM audio to AC3 and test again? Does audio stutter or the video?

[nicchap]

Audio clips and video stutters. I'll recode and get back to you. I appreciate the time you are putting in.

Isn't late (early) in Sofia?

[deank]

Yeah.. 00:40 but i'm watching Discovery's Time Warp :) so I have some time to spare :)

[drelin]

Yeah.. 00:40 but i'm watching Discovery's Time Warp :) so I have some time to spare :)

Fun TV show with the Myth busters :)

[nicchap]

Hope you had a good rest. Recoded my original HDV AVI footage with Procoder, tsmuxed it and imported everything in multiAVCHD. Here's the media info on the file:

General
ID : 1
Complete name : c:\buffer\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.MTS
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 933 MiB
Duration : 5mn 6s
Overall bit rate : 25.5 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : High@High
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 5mn 6s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.1 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 24.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.388

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 5mn 6s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

I tried all the settings on the PS3 but still a no go when played from the menu. I did notice that the CLPI files indicated 1080P when indeed it was 1080I. I edited the info in the file, but no change.

Nic.

[deank]

I did a small change in multiAVCHD to set properly Interlaced flags in clip/mpls files.

I asked your yesterday - what media do you use when playing the AVCHD/BDMV folder in PS3?

Your footage bitrate is quite high and I think PS3 has no restriction when it comes to XMB player, but may be when using AVCHD/BDMV structure (PS3's BD player) - there is a media/bitrate relation.

The best thing would be to burn to BD-RE disc (using button [Blu-ray for BD-R]) and see if it will stutter again.

[kenguru2005]

25 MBit HDV in AVCHD/BDMV is definitively no problem for PS3 ... tested several times with several projects. Never tested with 35 MBit as I have no cam with this bitrate. But as nearly all SAP are unable to play even those 25 MBit HDV BDMVs I fear, that PS3 reaches it´s limit at at 35 MBit HDV BDMVs.

[deank]

It is good to make a test with DVD and BD media.. I have 3 USB drives and they all perform differently. One is like 10 times faster than the other... DVD is slower than BD... so it's good to test. :)

[kenguru2005]

so it's good to test. :)
... I think I will reencode a short HDV sequence to 35 MBit with apples comprssor this evening. Let´s see, what PS3 thinks about a BDMV created with this high bitrated footage. :)

[nicchap]

OK Ladds, I will also test on DVD media (no BR burner right now). If not I will re-encode a HDV sample adn test again. I'm stuck at work (something has to pay for my toys) and will do it first thing when I get home. Thanks for looking into it as well Kenguru2k5.

Just to resume the tests I will do:

1) take a raw HDV clip and re-encode (< 25 MBit) -> multiAVCHD
2) take a Premiere exported clip and do the same
3) Burn to DVD5 or DVD9 and test

[nicchap]

Dean, to answer your question on which media I use:

Sony HDV clips edited under Premiere CS4, with a Matrox RT.X2 card. Project is then Exported to HDV AVI from Premiere, then encoded using Procoder 3 to m2v and ac3 format. I originally used the m2ts files created by Encore CS4 but those files seem to be invalid or corrupted. I will have to try with a new project when time permits.

[kenguru2005]

1) take a raw HDV clip and re-encode (< 25 MBit) -> multiAVCHD
2) take a Premiere exported clip and do the same
3) Burn to DVD5 or DVD9 and test

HDV up to 26 MBit doesn´t have to be tested as it is prooved several times: AVCHD-DVDs with this footage are always played smooth and perfect on PS3.

The question is: where exactly do the limits of PS3 concering AVCHD-DVDs beginn? 28 MBit? 30 MBit? ... 35 MBit? When does stuttering start?

[deank]

I posted few weeks ago in uncropMKV this screenshot of my PS3, playing from DVD-RW:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/avc33mPS3.JPG

I think I noticed a momentary bitrate of 50mbps... it is a 1920x1080@24fps video. It plays smooth.

[kenguru2005]

I posted few weeks ago in uncropMKV this screenshot of my PS3, playing from DVD-RW:

I think I noticed a momentary bitrate of 50mbps... it is a 1920x1080@24fps video. It plays smooth.

Yes ... but AVC, right? :) Not that I am unimpressed by this bitrate, but:
MPEG could be a problem for PS3.

[deank]

You're, right... I forgot about it... I'll test with my only mpeg2 source of training day blu-ray... hm... it is VC-1 thou...

[nicchap]

So many tests, so little time! I wonder if framerate is a factor at all? 24 vs 29.97...

[deank]

I don't think that 29.97 should be a problem... 24 causes much more trouble :)

:D Btw I used to live in Ottawa, too.... but Kansas :) not Canada.

***

Also if you can upload to some sharing server a sample of your problem files... I'd take a look.

[rfic]

hi, dean

too many posts here, hard to find answer

i have several AVCHDs already, try to use multiAVCHD to combine them;

i name them as AVCHD1, AVCHD2, etc.

but when i add them to multiAVCHD, the order is like random, not from AVCHD1 to AVCHD2 to AVCHD3, etc

is there anyway i can fix this order?

thanks

[deank]

If you add them one by one (one after another) they'll be sorted by the input order.

[kenguru2005]

Ok ... made a test with 35 MBit 1920x1080 mpeg2 footage in a BDMV structure on PS3: stuttering!! In my experience 27 - 28 MBit is the max. bitrate for mpeg2 footage on an AVCHD-DVD for smooth playback on PS3.

[deank]

BD says for VIDEO ONLY (MPEG-2):

bit_rate_value: The bit_rate_value field in the sequence_header shall indicate a value that is less
than or equal to 40000000 bits/second.

vbv_buffer_size_value: The vbv_buffer_size_value field in the sequence_header shall indicate a
value that is less than or equal to 9781248 bits (The maximum vbv buffer size for the Main profile and
the High level defined in ISO/IEC 13818-2).

And for 29.97fps and 25 (interlaced)
The 1080 lines to be encoded or where decoded video should be placed vertically in the
1920x1080 video format are shown as follows.[43]
- Field 1: line 21 to line 560
- Field 2: line 584 to line 1123

but The 1080 lines to be encoded or where decoded video should be placed vertically in the
1920x1080 video format are shown as follows.[43]
- Frame: line 42 to line 1121

for 24 and 23.976 progressive.

[kenguru2005]

I am sure, that bitrates can be much higher than 35 MBit/s when using BR. I don´t have a BR burner so I can not test. Btw I am good with those 25 MBit (that´s the way it comes out of my sony HC3).

[navycrow]

today i ve tested a new movie (day earth stool still) with multi video tracks. 100% perfect :)

And cherry on the cake, the audio and forced subtitles works according setting preferences (which was not the case before). Have u change something to support that ??Yes - I mentioned it. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274954#post1274954)

I saw this post, but when i spoke about setting preferences i wanted to tell about the setting preferences of the PS3 not the setting preferences of multiAVCHD. In my case [x] Force subtitle track#1 remain unchecked like before.

In my case my PS3 is set by default to play FRENCH language and FRENCH subtitles. And now it also works with multiAVCHD (only this movie made with build 538 not the others made with previous version ). FRENCH Forced subtitle is played automatically without select it.

[nicchap]

Alrighty then, back home. Thanks for testing out the bitrate Kenguru (I have the HC1 myself), and for the Specs Dean. I will re-encode everything once more and report back. It's been a long day, and I hope to have a bit of time for this later on tonight.

Dean, if you are still interested in the sample, it's MPEG2 sample (http://nicchap.com/seqDebut_MPEG2_HD_NTSC_new.split.1.ts) . It's about 50 MB and it's the source I used (or part of it) as input to multiAVCHD. Give it another 20 minutes to finish it's download. Don't waste any time on it though.

[rfic]

If you add them one by one (one after another) they'll be sorted by the input order.

Do u mean if I only have avchd1, avchd2, then avchd1 will be always before avchd2; but if I have 3 of them, the order is random?

Since every time I add one more movies, I need to recompilexisting old file,I try to add several movies at one time to save time & hard drive

[phate89]

hello..i have a question...i have a 1080p video in a mkv file and i want to play it with my ps3 and my lcd tv with resolution of 1366x768..i try to convert it with multiavchd.. first i try to convert it for usb..it gives a problem for the 4.1 format and when i try to reproduce it i can hear the audio but not see the video...so i try to create a dvd..with the same result..same error and i stil can't see the video..what i can do? sorry for my english.. i'm italian ;)

[desray]

Hi deank, any way I can create my own welcome screen? Is there a particular filename (extension jpg? png?) that I need to put and in a particular folder for it to show up (any dimension or resolution limitations if any that I need to be aware of?) - I noticed a multiBG.jpg (1920 x 1080) - is that the file that I can replace in order to get a customized welcome screen? Please advise, thanks!

[deank]

Dean, if you are still interested in the sample... It's about 50 MB and it's the source I used...

I just downloaded it.

Do u mean if I only have avchd1, avchd2, then avchd1 will be always before avchd2; but if I have 3 of them, the order is random?

I'm not sure if I understand your question.

If you have 5 AVCHD folders to add in one compilation - drag them one by one and you'll have an option to rearrange the titles within each folder ([x] Edit AVCHD/BD folders on load option)

Then you'll have one new multiAVCHD compilation. If you decide the next day to add new files/folders - add your multiAVCHD compilation (which was created by those 5 folders) and then add your new folders/files.

You can't reorder titles which were part of imported AVCHD folder in multiAVCHD - only when loading a folder and only within the playlist of that folder.


hello..i have a question...i have a 1080p video in a mkv file and ... i can hear the audio but not see the video...

Some files are encoded with settings which are incompatible with Playstation3. You need to reencode your video - otherwise you won't be able to watch it. You can try with uncropMKV.

Hi deank, any way I can create my own welcome screen?

multiAVCHD creates the welcome screen, using the background image from Menu tab (if file exists) or its own multiBG.jpg.

Another option is to create your own m2ts/mpls/clpi welcome screen and name the files 01400.****. You can use tsmuxer to create such file with audio and video and replace multiAVCHD's 01400.xxxx.

Dean

[deank]

MPEG2 sample... about 50 MB and it's the source I used (or part of it) as input to multiAVCHD.

I experience the same as you: smooth playback via XMB and video stuttering in BD-player of PS3.

Few things come in mind:

1) We all know that MPEG-2 is not part of AVCHD (and PS3 goes into AVCHD mode to play your structure)

2) For 1440x1080 (AVC) you need to use 24p or 60i (or 50i)

3) 1440x1080 is not allowed in Blu-ray with MPEG-2 codec. It can only be VC-1 or H.264

4) It is good to try moving your projects to 1920x1080@60i (59.94fps)

5) It is not the bitrate that causes the stuttering.

Dean

[deank]

uncropMKV is updated in full-download and .exe only. There was a bug when processing multiple files in the queue.

[nicchap]

Dean, I will update my project output accordingly. Thanks for taking the time and carry on with the excellent work. Once I have all the steps down, I might just publish them for others to know, although you have done pretty much all of it already with multiAVCHD.

Nic.

[deank]

Let's go for another true AVCHD structure to test with Panasonic TV / Blu-ray players.

Here is a SD sample #2 (36MB) (http://rapidshare.com/files/224421187/SD_TEST2.exe). Extract it to the root of your SDHC card and test it.

***

The idea with this sample is to use part of tsMuxeR's output (which is Blu-ray, not AVCHD despite what options you use with it) and update all CLPI/MPLS files, add proper BDMV files and make a true AVCHD structure, so that's what I did.

There are differences between Blu-ray and AVCHD audio-type-codes and extended segments (CLEX/PLEX) for clpi/mpls and the whole structure needs to be converted from tsmuxer's files to AVCHD ones.

Let's hope that it will work for your Panasonics :) as it does work with Playstation 3.

A note to all: Don't confuse tsMuxeR's AVCHD output with the real AVCHD. tsMuxer generates AVCHD-like index.bdmv file only. All other files are with BD standard.

[nicchap]

Downloaded and will test when I get home later on tonight.

Tks.

[deank]

Panasonic user (SeeMoreDigital) reported that the sample doesn't work with his TV and BD player.

Canon user (drpaulng) reported that the sample works in his camcoder.

These results show 2 things:

1) The sample conforms with AVCHD standard
2) There may be a problem/difference with AVCHD for different manufactureres (really sad :) )
*) At least ONE AVCHD compatible device recognized the content - so it's a start.

Tomorrow I'll prepare another sample for you to test again.

[dec-pvr]

No luck for me I'm afraid with the SD card test.

Tried on a PAL BD35 firmware v1.4. Just showed up as a blank card with the photo viewer.

I think one of the previous tests actually showed up with the panasonic AVCHD menu, so this seems to be a complete failure for me I'm afraiad!

Admittedly I was trying with an old 128mb SD card (only spare I could find with nothing on it!).

Maybe a newer SDHC would work?

Anyone else?

edit: Just saw the posts above, so tried in my panasonic avchd camcorder but it just shows the following message:

'CANNOT BE USED DUE TO INCOMPATIBLE DATA'

Oh well....:(

[deank]

I'll make another sample later for Panasonic devices... A weird one is this AVCHD thing.

[dec-pvr]

Update:

I can't believe I even thought to try - of course the file wouldn't work on my camcorder! (see my post above Dean's).

It's a PAL camera and the file appears to be 29.97 footage. It would never work!

I wonder if this could affect avchd playback via sd card? I know there's no problem with different framerates via DISC, but could it possibly be blocked for only PAL (25/50) framerates? I know it states that playback via SD card is supposed to be from AVCHD camcorders, so is that a possibility?

Could you maybe make two seperate tests, one with a PAL (25/50) framerate and one with NTSC (30/60)? I know this isn't strictly the same for AVCHD but might be worth a try?

Is it possible to re-code the same footage into the different standards - therefore reducing possibilty of other variables?

[nicchap]

Dean,

Your sample also worked flawlessly on my system. I have re-encoded all my HDV files in AVC format (instead of mpeg2) and ran them through your fine program and presto! all is fine now when playing as AVCHD through the menu. I do look forward to having BR playback as I'm sure the pic quality will be superior.

Mission complete and thank you all for the help.

Nic.

PS. Dean's putting in massive hours on this, if you use and like his work, give a little!

[jfcarbel]

Dean,

Your sample also worked flawlessly on my system.

Mission complete and thank you all for the help.

Nic.

PS. Dean's putting in massive hours on this, if you use and like his work, give a little!

nicchap - What was your system, was it a Panasonic BD Player or a TV?

I am getting ready to test this on my Panasonic BD30 Player. Will report back here in a few minutes.

Hey, does the card need to be formatted first in a certain way as I just bought it from the store a month ago (HP SDHC 8GB)

And if this works, I am donating again for sure!

UPDATE:
Sorry, did not work. Direct Navigator came up with some picture viewer menu and when try to play or select anything, it says no pictures found.

Panasonic BD30 running latest firmware v2.8 - which is its release note says "AVCHD and BD-V in the lastest updates".

Here and ready for more testing :)

[LDA2887]

hey Dean! i have your latest build...great app! keep up the good work! but reecntly I've been having some trouble when the movie reaches the 4gb cut...what happens is that when it gets to the cut, the video stops playing and the time continues running, hope you can help me...keep up the good work!:thanks:

[deank]

It is good idea to download the FULL setup and replace all in your old multiAVCHD (it will keep your settings).

Try again and let me know if there is a problem again. What player do you use?

Dean

[dec-pvr]

nicchap - What was your system, was it a Panasonic BD Player or a TV?

I am getting ready to test this on my Panasonic BD30 Player. Will report back here in a few minutes.

Hey, does the card need to be formatted first in a certain way as I just bought it from the store a month ago (HP SDHC 8GB)

And if this works, I am donating again for sure!

I may be wrong but I think nicchap was using the program to make a AVCHD DVD - not using the SD card test. Correct me if I'm wrong nicchap!

[deank]

Here is another SDHC AVCHD sample (#3).

Download link (20MB). (http://rapidshare.com/files/224691742/SD_TEST3.exe)

It is almost untouched and will prove if Panasonic TV/BD via SDHC will do what is expected.

I added menu, changed some thumbnails and IDs, video is untouched (from drpaulng's canon camcoder).

You're all welcome to test in your HD camcoders, too.

If anyone can send me AVCHD samples with different framerates that play in Panasonic TV/BD via SDHC - it will be great.

Dean

***

@dec-pvr: the samples are to be used with SDHC cards, not to be burnt on DVD. May be nic really tested with DVD.

To all: These samples ALWAYS work in a computer player, in PS3 or on DVD (with long file names).

[dec-pvr]

Again, no luck for me with SD card test 3.

It just brings up the Direct Navigator for pictures and displays only blank (grey) boxes where the pictures would be.

I extracted to SD card root after formatting the card in my panasonic SD AVCHD camcorder.

I also extracted just to my PC to test the files. The first two play but the last one (1400.mts I think) would not play at all.

[deank]

When you extract it creates PRIVATE at the root and then the rest in private, right?

You should get something like: F:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.MTS

What happens when you put the card in the camcoder?

Can you download this one and check? (http://www.savefile.com/files/1512404)

If you can record 10 seconds AVCHD clip (that works with your TV) and upload it somewhere - I'll take a look at it, too.

User's manual for Panasonic BD-3x says: AVCHD format recorder with Panasonic HD cameras (V 1.0).

I'm uploading a sample#4 to use with BLANK/FORMATTED SD card. Format the card either with the blu-ray player or a camcoder - then copy sample#4.

[Bakafish]

Thank you for working on the Panasonic functionality. I can't wait to be able to just carry a SD card with me instead of my whole laptop in order to play HD video's at my friends.

[deank]

Here is sample#4 (55MB). (http://rapidshare.com/files/224719272/SD_TEST4.exe)

[nicchap]

Dec-pvr and JFCarbel:

Correct, I was testing issues that I was previously having on my PS3 using AVCHD on flash key, not BD.

[deank]

I created a small BDMV application to display some of the player's capabilities.

Here is the download link (2MB). (http://rapidshare.com/files/224809908/AVCHD_PROFILES_TEST.exe)

Extract AVCHD_PROFILES_TEST and burn its contents (BDMV folder) to a DVD if you need to test your player or copy to USB (convert filenames to 8.3) and rename it to AVCHD to test with USB for PS3 - just like you always do. Also you may want to remove some folders (AUXDATA, etc.) if you know what your player likes.

Test will show some messages:

* HD Secondary video - supported/unsupported
* PAL supported/unsupported
* Player profile compatibility
* Player BD-ROM version compatibility

Note 1 in messages means:
(Note1): "Functions indicated by "Note 1" are optional as a collective set (*1) in BD-ROM Players
conforming to BD-ROM Profile 1. From June 1 2007, the requirement to support functions indicated
by "Note 1" in BD-ROM Profile 1 shall be equivalent to the requirement specified for BD-ROM Profile 2.
For the avoidance of doubt, there shall be no requirement for a BD-ROM Player model conforming to
BD-ROM Profile 1 to support the functions indicated by "Note 1" before or as from June 1, 2007 if the
BD-ROM Player model was designed, manufactured and shipped for introduction in the market before
June 1, 2007."

Here is the "source":
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/bd_PSR_test.jpg

[Emulgator]

Sample 4 on 1GB SD Card (Original Panasonic, no SDHC, but Highspeed)
in Panasonic BD-50 Firmware 1.4:
It works !
36s Video, Streetscenes, Chapters at 6s, 12s 24s.

[dec-pvr]

When you extract it creates PRIVATE at the root and then the rest in private, right?

You should get something like: F:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.MTS

What happens when you put the card in the camcoder?

Can you download this one and check? (http://www.savefile.com/files/1512404)

If you can record 10 seconds AVCHD clip (that works with your TV) and upload it somewhere - I'll take a look at it, too.

User's manual for Panasonic BD-3x says: AVCHD format recorder with Panasonic HD cameras (V 1.0).

I'm uploading a sample#4 to use with BLANK/FORMATTED SD card. Format the card either with the blu-ray player or a camcoder - then copy sample#4.

Okay, I've had a go with this file above and SD test 4.

Both play fine in my BD35 Blu-Ray player. The normal panasonic AVCHD menu comes up after selecting to play AVCHD (from a choice of jpeg's or avchd).

Neither will play on my camera - it's a UK one, so I imagine it's due to the 29.97 framerate. The camera just says 'this cannot be used due to incompatible data'.

I made sure to format my card for both files and they both worked fine on the BD player (they are infact, one and the same!).

The previous test (SD test 3) did extract correctly with the file structure you mentioned, but would not play (in the camera or BD player). I did format the card for this test as well.

The message was different for test 3 in my camera though - IIRC it said 'cannot play file'.

I'll try to test the AVCHD profile test in a moment - just about to download & burn.

I've already sent you some clips previously. Would you like another 10sec clip? It's not problem if you do.

[deank]

Well, if this one works in the player there may be no need of other samples.

But I'd like to have 1920x1080i/p, 1280x720p samples with ONLY one m2ts file - no chapters/scenes.

Just a single 10sec recording that works in your player.

***

ABOUT the test BDMV, here is what my players report:

NERO:
HD_SECONDARY_VIDEO_SUPPORTED
PAL_SUPPORTED
COMPLIES_WITH_PROFILE_1_WITH_ALL_FUNCTIONS_NOTE1
COMPLIES_WITH_VERSION_2.0

TMT:
HD_SECONDARY_VIDEO_SUPPORTED
PAL_SUPPORTED
COMPLIES_WITH_PROFILE_2
COMPLIES_WITH_VERSION_2.0

My PAL PS3:
HD_SECONDARY_VIDEO_UNSUPPORTED
PAL_SUPPORTED
COMPLIES_WITH_PROFILE_2
COMPLIES_WITH_VERSION_2.0

***

I found this sample (http://rapidshare.com/files/189056797/with_footage.zip.html) - you've sent it before. I'll look at it.

[dec-pvr]

Hmmm, odd.

I've just tried to AVCHD Profiles test and I can't get it to work.

I've burnt the BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders using IMGBurn UDF2.5 (as I normally would with multiAVCHD output) but all I get is the standard Panasonic AVCHD menu with nothing on it. I did nothing to the original download, just burnt to DVD+RW.

I tried removing the AUXDATA folder, but this made no difference.

I've never had any problems from multiAVCHD before and haven't changed anything that could affect this. I checked the output of a previous compilation that also has all these folders - so I don't think it's anything to do with my player!

I'd love to be able to provide more samples myself, but as far as I'm aware my SD1 camera only records 1440x1080i.

Can anyone else help with samples?

[Furiousflea]

Just tried it on my Sony BDP-S550...

All supported except "Secondary Video" which said "Unsupported"...

Will try it on a BD-RE see what comes up :)

Edit...Same results, all supported except Secondary Video.

Does this diagnostic disc mean that proper Bluray output from tsmuxer still won't support PIP for my player. Or is this purely for properly authored AVCHD?

Cheers.

HD_SECONDARY_VIDEO_UNSUPPORTED
PAL_SUPPORTED
COMPLIES_WITH_PROFILE_2
COMPLIES_WITH_VERSION_2.0

[deank]

Hmmm, odd.

I've just tried to AVCHD Profiles test and I can't get it to work.


can you replace your index/movieobject with these (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/new_bdmv.rar)?

@Furiousflea: PAL supported on your NTSC bd player? It is just what your player status registers say for the current-operation mode. HD capability means 1920/1280 PIP video I guess (not 720x480/576).

*edit* I just fixed a small bug with Profile 3.0 detection... not that anyone has such player but still... files in the link above (1kb) are updated (just 2 *.bdmv files).

[dec-pvr]

can you replace your index/movieobject with these (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/new_bdmv.rar)?

@Furiousflea: PAL supported on your NTSC bd player?

*edit* I just fixed a small bug with Profile 3.0 detection... not that anyone has such player but still... files in the link above (1kb) are updated (just 2 *.bdmv files).

Okay, replaced the files in the BDMV + BDMV/BACKUP folders.

Plays now:


HD_SECONDARY_VIDEO_UNSUPPORTED
PAL_SUPPORTED_(25/50Hz)
PLAYER_COMPLIES_WITH_BD-ROM_PROFILE_2
PLAYER_WHICH_COMPLIES_WITH
SYSTEM_DESCRIPTION_BLU-RAY_DISC_READ-ONLY_FORMAT
PART_3_AUDIO_VISUAL_BASIC_SPECIFICATIONS
VERSION_2.0


This goes round in a continuous loop.

Hope this helps?

[deank]

It will be interesting to see what NTSC PS3 system reports for PAL compatibility.

I don't know how all this may help... it was just a test to see if some player registers can be used in AVCHD mode... :)

And from your 1st failed attempt I now know that Panasonic BD won't play without TITLES present in the structure.

[jason_peters010]

Tested sample #4 in my NTSC BD-35. (please excuse if someone has already posted). Shows the first 36 second title, but plays only 1 second of it before quitting (yellow & white trucks).

My U.S. HDC-SD1 camcorder shows 4 titles with 4 thumbnails. Plays the first 5 seconds of title 1 before displaying "check card." Refuses to play titles 2-4 with "check card."

Thanks for working on this! I will be contributing to your paypal account.

[deank]

This sample should really play on Panasonic players - it is an original one...

Please make sure to format your SD card and try again.

[jason_peters010]

I formatted the card with my Panasonic SD1 before I copied and pasted your folders.

I then formatted the card with Panasonic SD formatter and it worked flawlessly in my SD1. Will test in my BD35 later today. Thanks!

[davsim]

Here is sample#4 (55MB). (http://rapidshare.com/files/224719272/SD_TEST4.exe)
Sample #4 plays and navigates fine from a standard 2GB SD card on my Panasonic BD60.

[nicchap]

BTW, I'll test on my NTSC PS3 tonight, unless someone beats me to the punch.

[jason_peters010]

Sample #4 works on my NTSC BD-35, when formatted with Panasonic's software SD Formatter.

[deank]

If 20 people (europeans) donate 15EUR each (to my bank acc in the donate page, not paypal) I can get a Panasonic BD-35 at my local store (http://www.technomarket.bg/product_detail.php?product_id=09045148) (550BGL=280EUR) and when I make it work one of them can win the player, because I don't really need it.

It is a waste of time to do some changes/test samples, upload, wait for someone to download and test and report back...

[Wishbringer]

I can get a Panasonic BD-35 at my local store (550BGL=280EUR)...

Ouch! Here in Germany it only costs 207 Euro and 8 Euro shipping...
But I will support your afford.

[deank]

That's another option.. I can send you 220 via paypal once we reach the limit :) and you'll send the BD-35 to me :) Then only 15x15 will be needed.

At this point, because of problems with my name written in cyrillic (ДЕЯН/DEAN/DEYAN/DEIAN), I cannot withdraw money from paypal donations and it makes it harder for me. All donations for multiAVCHD since December 2008 just sit there in paypal :) like in someone's savings account ;)

[Ribellu]

Hi Dean

I am sorry to here that you can use what we donated :=(

Any chance that you may use the Paypal money to buy the player ?

Because, I already donated and I could give some more but Paypal is really more convenient

Let me know and keep up the good (excellent I shall say) job _

P-A

[jason_peters010]

I too just donated to your Paypal, Dean. I agree that it is convenient. You will be able to withdraw from this account eventually, right? Thanks for the BD35 support!

[elijah.baley]

Hello Dean,

I didn't like to bother you for the last 4 days because you were so much engaged in the Panasonic problem, which you evidently managed successfully, but the compatibility issue with the Sony S350 and 576i video still remains. Nothing I have tested works. multiAVCHD creates working menus but "jumping" video, TOAST multiplexes smooth playing videos but only a menu sequence of ~130ms length, which in turn might be the cause for the menu not being displayed at all (but still being accessable).

BTW: all videos, 576i as well as 576p (obvious) are displayed as 576p in the players display.

I had the "great" idea to multiplex the BDMV structure via TOAST and import the output in multiAVCHD, because I was under the impression that imported BDMV/AVCHD are not processed via tsmuxer, but multiAVCHD didn't like the BDMV-structure/index.bdmv created by TOAST and crashed every time I've tried with error code
"(RT) cannot open file ...\index.bdmv -Line 1764"

I have uploaded the index file if you want to take a look.

http://rapidshare.com/files/224996248/index.bdmv.html

Killcode:
http://rapidshare.com/files/224996248/index.bdmv.html?killcode=4573903143729600529


Stefan

[jfcarbel]

SDTest #4 worked perfectly on my Panasonic BD30 Player (Firmware 2.8)

Also did not need to format it, just copied it to the HP SDHC 8GB card and it worked. All 4 clips played perfectly. :) There was no title for these just the date of recording and its length.

Does this mean that multiAVCHD can convert MKVs for the SDHC card format for playing on Panasonic standalones? Or will it require more development and testing and the use of a Panasonic player for Dean to get this working?

So far looks like this test #4 clip works with following Panasonic BD Player models:

BD35
BD35
BD60

[LDA2887]

hey dean! sorry for the late response, i downloaded again and it worked like a charmed! thanks for the help! i am viewing the the multiAVCHD in my ps3 and latest update. Thanks!

[deank]

...the compatibility issue with the Sony S350 and 576i video still remains.

BTW: all videos, 576i as well as 576p (obvious) are displayed as 576p in the players display.

I had the "great" idea to multiplex the BDMV structure via TOAST and import the output in multiAVCHD, but multiAVCHD didn't like the BDMV-structure/index.bdmv with error code
"(RT) cannot open file ...\index.bdmv -Line 1764"

There is nothing wrong with the index file. multiAVCHD is trying to load *\BDMV\index.bdmv and can't find such file. Are you dragging your BDMV folder to multiAVCHD?

You can disable [x] Edit AVCHD/BDMV folders on load option.
Make sure the video files you try to process are exactly 720x576@50i or 25fps.

You can also disable [x] Delete temp files and take a look (send me) the .meta file for tsmuxer in the _TEMP folder for these choppy-playing files.

Dean

edit: Try to launch multiUPDATE.exe and check if the error you got @line 1764 will appear when you import your folder.

[Atreide]

Only checking back to the forum today after a couple of days off. I have tested sample #4 and it's working too on a Panasonic BD-50 player.
However I remember having checked that sample before, it was already posted in this thread I believe and comes from a Panasonic camera, not a multiAVCHD output.
Anyone can confirm ?

[deank]

Yes, i said it is an original one - not from multiAVCHD output. Just slight modifications as a start point.

[elijah.baley]

Hi Dean,

a small success! With TOAST multiplexed BDMV's can successfully be passed through multiAVCHD - playing smooth on Sony's BDP. The problem before resulted because multiAVCHD wants to have write access to index.bdmv whether "Edit on loading" is active or not, otherwise Error "Line 1764" with "Edit on loading" active or Error "Line 2010" if inactive.

There is something else I'd like to ask. As I initially read about AVCHD I stumbled upon some information which seemed unusual. I cannot recall the source of the information, but at that time it seemed legit. The information provided explained "real" AVCHD as being encoded in packets of three frames.
I tried out several programs for more informations on the files/streams I wanted to mux
- h264info 26alpha: Error "PTS<DTS"
- TSPE 755b: if I take a look at individual frames, something odd shows in the preview screen => frame order ABC BCD CDE or similar

I am not sure if I make myself clear, but I lack the technical knowledge as well as the ability to write genuin english :(

Anyway, here is the meta file you requested:

http://rapidshare.com/files/225131746/neu.meta.html

KillCode
http://rapidshare.com/files/225131746/neu.meta.html?killcode=306980512412973940

Stefan

[deank]

I think the error is because of INDEX.BDMV I used instead of index.bdmv - and may be in MacOS it is case sensitive.

Can you run multiUPDATE again?

I'm not sure if I understand this ABC BCD CDE thing... The way m2ts files are multiplexed is the same for BDMV and AVCHD and is set in ISO-13818-1 (http://neuron2.net/library/mpeg2/iso13818-1.pdf)/2.

Also - in some rare cases multiAVCHD has problems with non-ANSI file/folder names (like the one in your meta).

[elijah.baley]

What I meant was, that in a frame per frame view of the stream previous frames are repeated.
Normally a frame sequence ought to behave something like A-B-C-D-E-F-G... - a continuous playback, in my case however frames are repeated (coded in the stream) where they shouldn't be, i.e. A-B-C-b-D-E-d-F-G, a discontinuous playback.

Oddly, they don't show in VLC or any other software player, or after passing through TOAST on the Sony: the video is played back smoothly without dropped frames or anything like that. Only after passing through tsmuxer the video becomes jumpy on the Sony.

I will see if I can provide you with a small sample, but with a 56k even a small sample becomes big.

Stefan

[deank]

Can you test with tsmuxer these few options:
1) without SPS
2) without SEI

I think one of them (or both) may confuse your sony somehow.

[deank]

Another thought... Is there a chance that you're capturing from SAT/TV and the broadcast framerate is not really 25fps but your encoder/card does something to the original stream or the capture card does pulldown and converts 576i to 576p?

[elijah.baley]

a few days ago I tried TsMuxer (prior to multiplexing them with multiAVCHD or TOAST) with different options
1) both
2) none
3) only SPS
4) only SEI
5) every option above + "change level" (just in case!)

In some cases, they were not playable even after multiplexing with TOAST.


Here is a small sample.

http://rapidshare.com/files/225156382/edit.ts.html

KillCode
http://rapidshare.com/files/225156382/edit.ts.html?killcode=12401727246518528648

[elijah.baley]

To your second reply,

that's a tricky one. The Hauppauge HD-PVR claims to record only the format that arrives and the videos are, that I am sure of, interlaced - I think FBAS does only interlaced. "Mice Teeth" are visible in individual frames and the h264 header shows interlaced material (576i/25). I recorded a test video from DVD via component as "forced" progressive which showed 576p/50.

[deank]

I tested the .ts sample and it plays smooth in AVCHD (PS3). I also created a m2ts file from the .ts and muxed it again and it played smooth, too.

It can be either 576i (interlaced 50 fields, 25frames) or 576p ( progressive 25 frames) but not 576i25 or 576p50.

I have no idea why your sony player behaves like it does.

***

There is a small application I sometimes use: HDTV to MPEG2. But may be in your case it won't work (if you're using h264 capture):

http://www.deanbg.com/public/HDTVtoMPEG2.exe

[elijah.baley]

Then lets just put it aside for the moment. I am glad to have found a workaround for the problem which enables me to use multiAVCHD for those videos as well.

Many thanks for your efforts though.

Stefan

[elijah.baley]

@ Dean

well, the 25fps 576i video must have 50 interlaced frames. If I turn on deinterlacing in EyeTV it shows 50/25 fps.

http://g.imagehost.org/0476/576i_25fps.gif

...however...

http://g.imagehost.org/0104/576p_50fps.gif

The last one was a DVD played on the Sony S-350 with "forced" progressive output, which doubles the framerate for smooth playback ... or :confused:

[deank]

Yes, the second one doesn't look normal. It should be 576p 25. You can try to change it manually.

[deank]

Here are three really small samples to test SD / SDHC playback with Panasonic Viera TVs or Panasonic BD-3x/5x/6x players:

...SD sample #6 - 580kb. (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/SD_TEST6.exe) (1440x1080i)

...SD sample #7 - 500kb. (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/SD_TEST7.exe) (1920x1080i)

...SD sample #8 - 400kb. (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/SD_TEST8.exe) (1920x1080p)

Let's see what will happen... They should show black screen or red or green (if any of them plays at all of course).

[nicchap]

I'm off for two weeks. Looking forward to seeing what's new when I get back. I'll have plenty of new video to work with! Keep up the nice work folks!

Nic.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Here are three really small samples to test SD / SDHC playback with Panasonic Viera TVs or Panasonic BD-3x/5x/6x players:

...SD sample #6 - 580kb. (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/SD_TEST6.exe) (1440x1080i)

...SD sample #7 - 500kb. (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/SD_TEST7.exe) (1920x1080i)

...SD sample #8 - 400kb. (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/SD_TEST8.exe) (1920x1080p)

Let's see what will happen... They should show black screen or red or green (if any of them plays at all of course).Hi Dean,

I am able to confirm that my Panasonic BD35 was able to play samples 6 and 8 just fine - It was "no-go" with sample 7...

Sadly, my Panasonic PZ81B TV reported "No Valid File To Play".

At some stage, would it be possible for you to create a sample with more than one stream?


Cheers

[deank]

@nic: will wait to see you around :)

@SMD: did samples display red background with text? Was there any audio playing?

I'm struggling to make 1 :) work... let's worry about more titles/streams once we go around this cornerstone.

***

The good thing is that all 3 samples are generated with avisynth + x264 -> multiAVCHD, so there's a light.

[KristianR]

Hi,

on my BD35 sample #6 and #8 play fine.
On both I get stereo-sound and a red image with the following white text: "Multiavchd Panasonic SDHC Test #5 ..."

Regards
KristianR

[deank]

Okay... so it is a prove I can make Panasonic BD players play multiAVCHD output :)

[jason_peters010]

Okay... so it is a prove I can make Panasonic BD players play multiAVCHD output :)

Music to our ears. (BD-35 owners, that is)

[SeeMoreDigital]

SMD: did samples display red background with text? Was there any audio playing?Yep, red background with clean text complete with 2Ch AC3 audio...

I'm struggling to make 1 :) work... let's worry about more titles/streams once we go around this cornerstone.No problemo.....

[deank]

I'll try to post samples with 5.1ch AC3 and 1920x1080p AVC and 1280x720p. These 2 will let me modify multiAVCHD to respect [x] Panasonic SDHC output and produce some playable output.

Be advised that AVCHD for Panasonic is not a relaxed standard (I believe). I may also try with subtitle streams, but after we make other things work.

[Atreide]

It's also working on BD-50 for samples 6 and 8. White text on red background with music. Great news !! :)

[gordan]

I know this is not exactly the subject of this tool but I'm looking for a tool with similar goal (at least for me): non-transcoded video playable on PS3 with subtitles (I do not care about transcoding audio).

Except that in this case I do not have a h264 input but MPEG2 with 1920x1088p at 23.976 fps.

Can anyone suggest a tool to enable this?
Also, what is the best tool to take DVD content to be played on PS3 as a DVD?

Thanks!

[deank]

We won't discuss 'downloaded' material. remove your mediainfo quote.

[davsim]

Here are three really small samples to test SD / SDHC playback with Panasonic Viera TVs or Panasonic BD-3x/5x/6x players:

Panasonic BD60 results:

SD_TEST6:

Plays, red background with white text (says "test #5" 1440x...) and music/audio.

SD_TEST7:

No video detected. Selecting the card goes to an empty .jpg image viewer (default behavior when nothing else is detected).

SD_TEST8:

Plays, red background with white text (says "test #5" 1920x...) and music/audio.

[dec-pvr]

Panasonic BD35 (UK - PAL) Firmware v1.4

As above, tests 6 + 8 work - red background, white text, audio.

Test 7 just shows the navigator page as if nothing is on the card.

[deank]

Samples used 29.970 frame rate, which means PAL Panasonic players have no problems with NTSC frame rates.

I'll post some other samples and then I'll enable the option in multiAVCHD.

If your players accept 1920x1080p @30fps (in sample#8) - it is a good sign - this is a combination of unsupported framerate for a supported resolution (according to AVCHD specifications).

I'll post next samples with fps 23.976 using MKV input.

@all: Sample seven (7) was a tsMuxeR sample with really slight modifications, which I just needed you to test - sorry. I didn't expect it to work - just a try :)

[deank]

Another SDHC sample#9 (http://rapidshare.com/files/225322204/SD_TEST9.exe).

1920x1080p@23.976 10sec AC3 2ch

[SeeMoreDigital]

Another SDHC sample#9 (http://rapidshare.com/files/225322204/SD_TEST9.exe).

1920x1080p@23.976 10sec AC3 2chWorks okay with my BD35 player :)

[Atreide]

Sample #9 working as well with BD-50 !! Fantastic work Dean :cool:

[deank]

Now :)

#10 (http://rapidshare.com/files/225328179/SD_TEST10.exe) (1280x720@23.976 AC3 6ch) - 1.6MB


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#9 and #10 are directly from MKV files ;)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Now :)

#10 (http://rapidshare.com/files/225328179/SD_TEST10.exe) (1280x720@23.976 AC3 6ch)Bummer... It seams I've reached my RapidShare download limit :eek:

[deank]

Yeah... here it is @ my server (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/SD_TEST10.exe)

[Atreide]

sample #24, oh no #10, working too ;-)
You got it !!

[deank]

Nice, huh :)

I'm feeling the same way as I was 2 months ago when the custom menu started working FINALLY :)

I don't have a Panasonic SDHC player, but I can certainly say I'm more happy than you ;)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Yeah... here it is @ my server (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/SD_TEST10.exe)It works perfectly... including the 6Ch AC3 audio :)

[deank]

Well, I guess I should switch that option in the GUI. I have no idea if subtitles will work, but at least these two basic (most common) resolutions 1920x1080 & 1280x720 work.

[Atreide]

Well I don't know for others, but for me having just one file with no subtitles is the only thing I needed :)
This is really good !

[deank]

I'll release a test build in later. It will however require full Setup download. I'll post back when I'm ready. It will be ver 2.6.

[WilcoBxl]

Dean, thanks again for your hard work - I've been waiting for the Panny SDHC feature since almost the start of the thread, and it's finally becoming a reality! :)

Re: the subtitles: would it be possible, if the Blu-ray player won't play the subtitles included the "standard" way, to have said subtitles directly "burned" in the video? ( if the answer is "yes but you have to do it yourself", fine! just let me know and I will try and get more info by myself)

thanks!!

[Atreide]

Going to sleep now, will download the new version tomorrow. Again, great job !

[SeeMoreDigital]

I'll release a test build in 30mins. It will however require full Setup download. I'll post back when I'm ready. It will be ver 2.6.I guess the "holy grail" for us Panasonic (and maybe Sony) player users would be to have a basic "AVCHD on SD Card" application, with "drag-and-drop" functionality :)

[deank]

@SMD: Yes, that's an easy one... Let's see if next build will work for any of you. I'd like to see things getting up the easy way, too.

[davsim]

Samples used 29.970 frame rate, which means PAL Panasonic players have no problems with NTSC frame rates.
My US BD60 plays PAL AVCHD from DVD5, so it goes both ways at least for HD.

[davsim]

Amazing progress, deank! I'm looking forward to trying out the test build.

Panasonic BD60 (US v1.5) results

SDTEST_9:

Plays fine, audio seems to start around 00:00:06

SDTEST_10:

Video and audio plays fine.

[jbalsor]

SDTEST_10 Works perfect video and audio in my Panny SC-BT100 in Canada.

This is GREAT Dean!!! I am really excited!

[jfcarbel]

I don't have a Panasonic SDHC player...

I don't care - if you get this working I'm donating again anyways whether you'll no longer need a player to test is irrelavent, buy some new shoes or something else then :)

LOL

Testing clips 9 and 10 on my BD30, reporting back soon and very excited that you are this close and that we can see this feature integrated into multiAVCHD soon.

UPDATE: Both Clips work perfect on the Panasonic BD30 player. Success! Great work Dean.

Waiting for test build to give it a go with some MKVs of mine.

[dec-pvr]

Dean - you are indeed a star!

Both tests 9 & 10 play in my BD35 (PAL) Firmware v1.4.

Can we assume that 1920x1080p@23.976 will work with AC3 6ch audio?

Many congratulations, can you share what your breakthrough was? Apart from your great skills of course ;)

[deank]

Version 2.6 Build 540

Full-download is required (preferred) or multiAVCHD.dat update. Download links are in the first post.

Panasonic SDHC option is now enabled in Author tab.

This is an initial TEST version. Report any problems.

Dean

[Atreide]

hmm, I have tried on a mkv file but it's not working, I must have done something wrong. Inside the AVCHD folder there is only a BDMV folder, none of the others; is that right ?

[deank]

Did you enable [x] Panasonic in Author and answered YES at the prompt?

[Atreide]

no...... will try again right away

[deank]

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_p.jpg

Then add one file. Only [AVCHD for USB/SDHC/MS] button should be available. Menu options will be ignored and you should have

BDMV
AVCHDTN

folders inside your output AVCHD folder. Copy AVCHD to Private of your SDHC card.

[Atreide]

Now I did all this and it happened as described but when I insert the card in BD-50 I get again the usual picture menu and not the video one like in sample #10 for example.
Will make another try after formatting a gain the SD card.

[deank]

You may leave DCIM and MISC on your card and have

DCIM
MISC
PRIVATE
PRIVATE\AVCHD
PRIVATE\AVCHD\AVCHDTN
PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV

Also - execute multiUPDATE.exe before your next try.

[Atreide]

still not working.
I have ran multiUPDATE.exe and reprocessed my mkv file.
I have tried also sample #10 again and it's working so I have kept DCIM and MISC from sample 10 and replaced only the AVCHD folder by that from multiAVCHD output.
I get again thr picture menu; no video.


The log file is :

[12:07:26] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.6 (build 540)

[12:07:26] Panasonic output for SDHC cards will include
[12:07:26] only one title (m2ts/mts/mpls/clpi).

[12:07:26] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[12:07:26] Temp folder does not exist. Set to R:\_TEMP.
[12:07:26] You enabled Panasonic SDHC output. Only one title will be available!
[12:07:26] Converting to BDMV structure (R:\filename.103.mkv).
[12:07:27] Detected audio: ID#1:A_AC3:audio (48000Hz/6ch) Language: und
[12:07:27] Detected video: ID#2:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC:1280x720 23.976fps (AR:1.78)
[12:07:28] Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxer)...
[12:09:54] Done!
[12:09:54] Processing playlist (00000.mpls)...
[12:09:56] Preparing authoring information...
[12:09:56] Top menu skipped. Playback will start from Title#1.
[12:09:57] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[12:09:57] Forced sequential playback from Title#1 forward.
[12:09:57] Completed.
[12:09:57] Applying Panasonic SDHC parameters...
[12:09:57] Renaming files to FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[12:09:57] Done!
[12:09:58] R:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD folder created!
[12:09:58] Copy R:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD to X:\PRIVATE\ of SD/MMC card.

[deank]

Can you try with 1920x1080 video?

For some reason I can't make sample#10 start in HDwriter and I remember that I was able to play it yesterday.

Are you testing on a TV or BD player?

[Atreide]

Tried sample 9 again and it's working still.

[deank]

I meant with your own video, not sample #9. I tested with 1920x1080 and it works. Make sure it has AC3 audio, not DTS.

You can try with smaller videos (use CUT END in muxer tab).

[Atreide]

er... I don't have such a video...

[deank]

Can you update your whole multiAVCHD?

What version is your tsmuxer?

[Atreide]

I have tsMuxerGUI 1.8.4
Will check for updates

[deank]

Oh, no! tsmuxer.exe in multiavchd\tools folder. It should be 1.9.9. You should see a note in the LOG tab when multiAVCHD starts. I'm uploading the fullsetup again.

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Let's see if someone else can test the output... Please try different resolutions with AC3 audio.

[Atreide]

yes in log tab it is 1.9.9.

[Atreide]

I have downloaded multiAVCHD this morning from first page so it was the new version

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi Dean,

So far so good.... The main thing I've noticed however, is that a "PRIVATE" folder is not created.

Anyways, I can confirm the following sources (with 6Ch AC3 audio) work with my BD35 and PZ81B TV: -

AVC Main@L3.0 - 1920x1080 @ 25fps
AVC Main@L3.0 - 1440x1080 @ 25fps
AVC Main@L3.0 - 1440x1080 @ 25fps with 4:3 ARS
AVC Main@L3.0 - 1920x816 @ 25fps

Great work ;)

[mariner]

If your players accept 1920x1080p @30fps (in sample#8) - it is a good sign - this is a combination of unsupported framerate for a supported resolution (according to AVCHD specifications).



Greetings Dean.

How about testing some non-compliant 1920x1080 @60P video?

Many thanks and best regards.

[deank]

@mariner: I can't test anything :) Waiting for other users to report.

@SMD: I will see if I can make multiAVCHD create PRIVATE folder. Did you have any luck with 1280x720?

[mariner]

@mariner: I can't test anything :) Waiting for other users to report.


I mean making 1920x1080@60P test samples for Panasonic SD card. You have already nailed down one non-compliant fornat, 1920x1080@30P, so lets see if 60P would work as well.

Many thanks and best regards.

[deank]

Yes - here is SAMPLE#11 (http://rapidshare.com/files/225557535/SD_TEST11.exe) 30MB - 1920x1080@60p.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Did you have any luck with 1280x720?Unfortunately no....

[Atreide]

I think PRIVATE folder can simply be added manually in the target directory for multiAVCHD. I am going to redo everything from the start and try again...
Are there any specific options to change ? I have not touched anything, simply checked the box for Panasonic SDHC output in Author.
Could DCIM and MISC folders be the problem ?

[Atreide]

Unfortunately no....

Argh ! then it's a problem of video resolution ? But that was working with sample #10

[Atreide]

Sample #11 brings the proper video menu, with icon of a little girl at a piano, but video is not playing on my system (PAL Sony TV, BD-50 player)

[jbalsor]

no luck here with 1280x720

[deank]

You may manually update with multiUPDATE.exe - there was a bug - resetting all options if SDHC option is enabled on startup.

I don't know what may cause sample#10 to work (1280x720) and other tries with same resolution to fail.

I have a real bad headache today and I'm not sure if I can do any tests.

[Atreide]

still no luck after multiUPDATE.exe but take it easy with the headache. You have already made serious progress and I 'm sure it'll all work very soon.
Take care.

[SeeMoreDigital]

I don't know what may cause sample#10 to work (1280x720) and other tries with same resolution to fail.I've done some more testing with my own 1280x720p encodes and.... I'm able to get my BD35 to play 25fps and 50fps sources :) But not my Panasonic TV's SD card slot :(

EDIT: Here's a sample (http://rapidshare.de/files/46895706/1280x720_25fps.7z.html).

[deank]

Here is another small SAMPLE#12 (http://rapidshare.com/files/225570874/SD_TEST12.exe) - 1280x720 - 1.5MB.

I hope it will work.

You can do some tests yourself:

Generate SDHC output and try this:

1) Change the value at offset 0x108 in 00000.CPI file from 0x51 to 0x41. Just the first octet.
If it is 51 -> 41, 52 -> 42, etc.

2) Change the value at offset 0x82 in 00000.MPL file the same way.

[Atreide]

Sample #12 brings the proper video menu but video preview is black and nothing plays when the file is selected.
Don't know how to edit .CPI and .MPL files, will check what I can do.

[Atreide]

SMD: what do you mean not your TV ?
Your sample is working on my BD-50 player and I see the video on my TV. How did you generate it ? was it from mkv file ?

[dec-pvr]

Just tried samples 11 & 12.

Both play audio - 11 gives a piano, 12 gives tone. Both a black screen though.

Also tried my own 720p@23.976 AC3 6ch = no go, just the direct navigator.

Haven't tried editing the files like you suggested - wouldn't know how.

All on my PAL BD35 firmware v1.4

[mariner]

Yes - here is SAMPLE#11 (http://rapidshare.com/files/225557535/SD_TEST11.exe) 30MB - 1920x1080@60p.

Thanks Dean. Let's hope we can get it tested by some Panasonic owners.

Best regards.

[mariner]

Sample #11 brings the proper video menu, with icon of a little girl at a piano, but video is not playing on my system (PAL Sony TV, BD-50 player)

Greetings Atreide. Many thanks for being the first volunteer to test 1920x1080@60P playback on Panasonic player.

Best regards.

[mariner]

Just tried samples 11 & 12.

Both play audio - 11 gives a piano, 12 gives tone. Both a black screen though.

All on my PAL BD35 firmware v1.4

Greetings dec-pvr. Many thanks for testing sample 11.

Shall leave it to Dean to interpret these results.

Best regards.

[SeeMoreDigital]

SMD: what do you mean not your TV ?I have a Panasonic TH-46PZ81B TV with built-in SD card slot, that can play std-def and high-def SD camcorder captures...

[davsim]

Here's my first test. Source is NTSC 1080i 29.97. I wasn't exactly sure how to handle the conversion, so I tried to keep the same settings and keep the file interlaced.

My first attempt actually plays in my BD60. Great work, deank!

Here is my test sample, please let me know if it works.

SD_TEST_DS001 (http://drop.io/g9834obrt#)

Can someone please share the best settings for MeGUI x264? What is the best way to handle 1080i 29.97 broadcast source, should it be de-interlaced and converted to another framerate?

Here are the settings I used:

http://www.cdupload.com/files/51999_6nkgw/megui-screens1.png

[jfcarbel]

Testing now on BD30

UPDATE:
MKV 720p would not work, but maybe I am getting menu struture wrong.

Should DCIM folder remain? I had removed it.

Also I copied the AVCHD file to PRIVATE, so it was:

PRIVATE
-->AVCHD
----->AVCHDTN
----->BDMV

Direct Navigator came up on BD30 and said there were no pictures to load.

Anyone get their MKV files working an Panny BD player and if so what steps did you follow?

UPDATE:
Forgot to mention, this was a 1280x720 MKV. I will see if I have other resolutions to test but this is a very common one for 90% of my MKV files.

[davsim]

I've done some more testing with my own 1280x720p encodes and.... I'm able to get my BD35 to play 25fps and 50fps sources :) But not my Panasonic TV's SD card slot :(

EDIT: Here's a sample (http://rapidshare.de/files/46895706/1280x720_25fps.7z.html).
I had an interesting result with your 1280x720 25fps sample on my US BD60 v1.5. (I added the missing DCIM and MISC folders from another test file along with your PRIVATE folder, just in case.)

When I selected the SD Card, it loaded into the "Direct Navigator" playlist screen showing your clip as "001 multiAVC 00:15". When I pressed OK or Play, it said "Cannot Play" and it did not play.

So, I hit Return to escape back out of the "Direct Navigator" AVC playlist screen and returned to the blank Panasonic blue background with the Blu-ray logo in the background and no menu.

I pressed Play from this default player background page and then I saw flashes of Blue to Black to Green colors, then your video and audio played fine. After the video completed, the screen flashed Blue, Black and Green again then returned to the Panasonic blue background screen.

[davsim]

Yes - here is SAMPLE#11 (http://rapidshare.com/files/225557535/SD_TEST11.exe) 30MB - 1920x1080@60p.
Panasonic BD60 v1.5 US results:

SAMPLE#11: plays video and audio fine. loads properly in the Direct Navigator playlist screen

[deank]

It seems different Panasonic players handle videos differently.

But most should play fine 1920x1080 and 1440x1080... and some 1280x720.

[davsim]

Here is another small SAMPLE#12 (http://rapidshare.com/files/225570874/SD_TEST12.exe) - 1280x720 - 1.5MB
Panasonic BD60 v1.5 US results:

SAMPLE#12: an interesting result: played from the playlist, a continuous audio tone is heard, but there is no picture, just a black screen. BUT, if I scan forward, I can see a few frames of orange, red SMPTE leader countdown numbers as shown in your uncropMKV screenshot. Another odd thing is that the scan forward (fast forward) doesn't stay on as normal, it flashes forward showing you video for a few seconds, then goes back to normal play speed and shows the blank/black screen.

On a normal program, scan/fast forward will stay active until manually deactivated. It is possible that the clip is too short and stops at the end, but it is odd that it only shows a few picture frames before going back to black even at the slowest scan forward speed.

[jfcarbel]

It seems different Panasonic players handle videos differently.

But most should play fine 1920x1080 and 1440x1080... and some 1280x720.

But my BD30 played your sample clips that were made from MKV 1280x720 (24 intro). However, when I gave it my 1280x720 MKV it failed, hmmm odd. I still need to try a run with the DCIM folder there since it was removed on this try.

UPDATE:
Does not play with the DCIM or MISC files present either, bummer. I just don't get how Dean's 1280x720 MKV sourced worked on my BD30 but not this one. I am going to format my SDHC with Panasonic Formatter and give it another go to see if that makes any difference.

UPDATE2:
Tried the reformat and added DCIM and MISC from the Sample10 that had worked on my BD30, but no luck.

Here is mediainfo for my file:

Complete name : D:\XXXXXX.720p.HDTV.x264.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 1.09 GiB
Duration : 42mn 17s
Overal bit rate : 3700 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-04-17 02:28:48
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.3.0 ('Freak U') built on Oct 7 2008 20:39:59
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 42mn 15s
Bit rate : 3160 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 3312 Kbps
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.150
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1123tw
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=16 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=3312 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 42mn 17s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

[mariner]

Panasonic BD60 v1.5 US results:

SAMPLE#11: plays video and audio fine. loads properly in the Direct Navigator playlist screen

Greetings davsim.

You've just identified the first BD player that will handle 1920x1080@60P video. Congratulations.

It wold be interesting to see how well the BD60 will handle it in BR and DVD-R.

Thanks and best regards.

[jfcarbel]

Panasonic BD30 Latest 2.8 firmware

SAMPLE#12: Does not play, panasonic video menu does show and title shows multiAVCHD, but when go to play clip just get black screen and pops back to menu.

SAMPLE#11: Show video menu, video appears to play but its only a thumbnail in upper left corner that flashs on and off with just the first frame from the video, so no go on the BD30

[mariner]

Greetings Dean.

Looks like you've done it again, nailing down another non-complaint blu-ray format. This is simply amazing.

Many thanks and best regards.

[davsim]

Here's is my second test clip, which plays in my BD60. Please test it and report your results.

SD_TEST_DS002 (http://drop.io/8at5oga#)

Source: MPEG2/AC3 NTSC broadcast 720P 1280x720 59.94fps, re-encoded with MeGUI x264 MKV keeping original AC3.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Looks like you've done it again, nailing down another non-complaint blu-ray format. This is simply amazing.Indeed, the AVCHD specification was developed by Panasonic and Sony to store audio and video on memory cards for use with std-def and high-def camcorders... It's a totally different and separate specification to Blu-ray...

[SeeMoreDigital]

Here's is my second test clip, which plays in my BD60. Please test it and report your results.Plays fine with my BD35 too...

[Atreide]

Plays also in the BD50 with no problem

[deank]

May be it's a good idea to move Panasonic testing/sample-posting in another thread.

I'll look again at this 1280x720 sample... it may be the AVC level or its duration...

[jfcarbel]

Plays fine with my BD35 too...

And with my BD30 as well.

In reference to:
SD_TEST_DS002

Source: MPEG2/AC3 NTSC broadcast 720P 1280x720 59.94fps, re-encoded with MeGUI x264 MKV

[jfcarbel]

I'll look again at this 1280x720 sample... it may be the AVC level or its duration...

I thought the same thing. I was going to try and grab just the intro from my MKV file, can I use tsmuxer for that?

Also noticed the CABAC frames of 3 vs 5 was different on my source, although I doubt thats the issue.

Also the bitrate was higher and the MKV sourcfe file was created using a later build of x264
Then again davisim clip was encoded using later version of x264 and that worked on my BD30, hmm a mystery to be solved

[deank]

It is easy to encode AVC material that will play in your panasoncs... The idea is with those already encoded video files.

[SeeMoreDigital]

May be it's a good idea to move Panasonic testing/sample-posting in another thread.Good idea :)

[jfcarbel]

Did anyone get their longer duration MKV files 1280x720 working in their Panasonic BD player?

If so please post your mediainfo to both the MKV and the mediainfo from resulting file produced by multiAVCHD. And you player model #/firmware

That should help maybe shed some light on this.

UPDATE: Hold off on this until Dean creates another thread for SDHC testing.

[davsim]

(Sorry, I will move new testing discussion to: AVCHD support in Panasonic SDHC compatible players (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146602).)

Okay, this is my third test. It plays in my BD60. Please test and report back.

SD_TEST_DS003 (http://drop.io/lv3wizo#)

Source: deank's SAMPLE#12 - 1280x720 - 1.5MB

I re-encoded deank's original SAMPLE#12 with the settings I've been using (already posted).

Notes:

MeGUI input DAR said 1.778, I selected NTSC ITU 16:9.

AVS wrong colorspace error in MeGUI, so I said ok to correct it ConvertToYV12()

I selected High Profile L4.0 in MeGUI, although MediaInfo says Main@L4 for my file. deank's original says HIGH@L4.1.

[deank]

Please move your discussion here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146602)

Thanks.

[phate89]

sorry deank..can you read my problem i wrote in the uncropmkv post? thanks a lot :)

[elijah.baley]

Hello Dean,

I am getting an error message "Failure to move file ... Line 2164" when allowing multiAVCHD to move input files directly to output folder (option: move transitional files [all]).

Stefan

[elijah.baley]

And choosing thumbnail view for menu produces error "cannot open .\temp\01405.nav -Line 2260"

XMB menu works though.

[Phil9]

And choosing thumbnail view for menu produces error "cannot open .\temp\01405.nav -Line 2260"

XMB menu works though.

Yeah I'm also getting the same error message since updating to the latest version.

[aladdino]

Hello Dean,

somedays before you fix the sound delay's in some mkv. I test today and it doesn't work. Can you fix it, please?

Anyway, Thank you for your great program.

Example: delay audio 1 vs video : 11ms
and delay audio 2 vs video:4000 ms

Info from Mediainfo 0.7.13:

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 1h 43mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Video delay : 11ms
Stream size : 1.11 GiB (14%)
Title : English DTS 1509kbps
Language : English


Audio #2
ID : 4
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 43mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Video delay : 4s 0ms
Stream size : 285 MiB (3%)
Language : Spanish

[deank]

And choosing thumbnail view for menu produces error "cannot open .\temp\01405.nav -Line 2260"

XMB menu works though.

I'm sorry. It is fixed now but you'll need to do FULL download or multiAVCHD.dat update.

[phate89]

do you found the solution for my problem in uncropmkv?

[deank]

I can't do anything. If you upload a sample somewhere - I'll download it and will take a look.

[phate89]

I can't do anything. If you upload a sample somewhere - I'll download it and will take a look.

i send the link with a part (33 sec) of my video in a pvt message..let me know something ;)

[deank]

CalcIT author dhmk (Dimitris Klaras) updated the core library (calclib.dll) this morning to address the issue with Windows DEP protection.

Download the updated DLL here (http://rapidshare.com/files/225927017/calclib_DLL.exe) (600kb) and replace it in all your tools (multiAVCHD, popBD, uncropMKV).

It will be included in all full downloads.

[jfcarbel]

Has anyone had luck in saving down Apple HD movie trailers in the MOV files and then using multiAVCHD to convert these to something playable on standalones like the Panasonic BD players?

I know that some of those trailers are in odd resolutions (i.e. 1280x544) and maybe it requires use of uncropMKV before inputing into multiAVCHD. But with a 544 resolution it looks like the widescreen black borders have been cropped so do they need to get added back and what tool?

I ask now because I have always wanted to watch these trailers on a big screen TV rather than a computer and with mutliAVCHD now offering AAC to AC3 conversion, this should work, I think. But, when I try with the MOV file I have as is, it fails to create any stream file and the multiAVCHD log gives me warnings that tsmuxer probably failed due to bad input file.

Are there any special settings needed to be checked in multiAVCHD to get it to work or some pre-processing to the MOV file?

[deank]

Try to rename your .mov file to .mp4 and try again.

[jfcarbel]

Try to rename your .mov file to .mp4 and try again.

Okay, that worked in producing a stream, but the stream is still 1280x544 so it probably won't work in the BD player since its a non-compliant resolution, but I will give it a go.

Also, eac3to in logs said did not succeed in converting the audio track so it moved onto using ffmpeg. Odd because I have multiAVCHD pointed to the lastest eac3to directory and the Nero AAC command-line files are in the eac3to directory also. Maybe its my Comodo HIPs getting in the way.

[jfcarbel]

Hi all, Dean just accomplished getting Panasonic SDHC support working this weekend in multiAVCHD. The feature set is everything we would need, but there are some extras he can still add, but if these are something that you want then you should donate and give him some incentive to work on them as not everyone will want these. I have already donated in appreciation for this support of SDHC features, but I am only one of 5 donators in the 20 he really wanted so that he could purchase a BD player for easier testing. So if you want some features like this here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1278517#post1278517) that I requested, then make sure to donate.

Great work Dean on the SDHC support and many Thanks!

[deank]

Okay, that worked in producing a stream, but the stream is still 1280x544 so it probably won't work in the BD player..

Also, eac3to in logs said did not succeed in converting the audio track so it moved onto using ffmpeg.

Give it a try... NC resolutions will either work or not at all... Nothing can be done unless they're reencoded.

About eac3to... it happens to fail with mov files, that's why I triple-backed it with mplayer and ffmpeg. One of them 3 should do the work :)

[jfcarbel]

I notice when creating AVCHD for DVD its not creating the CERTIFICATE folder anymore. I believe my Panasonic BD30 requires it and it was always produced before.

UPDATE:
Without this CERTIFICATE folder AVCHD DVDs are no longer playable on the Panasonic BD30, says disk is incompatible, Dean?

[deank]

There is an option in Settings - [x] Stricter AVCHD folder mode... you need to uncheck it.

And it is good to read the guide/tutorial sometimes, too :)

Probably your settings got reset by some of the previous builds when this Panasonic message would pop-up on loading.

[jfcarbel]

Give it a try... NC resolutions will either work or not at all... Nothing can be done unless they're reencoded.

About eac3to... it happens to fail with mov files, that's why I triple-backed it with mplayer and ffmpeg. One of them 3 should do the work :)

Nope, tried it on the SDHC card and all it played was the audio and video was blank. I was able to reencode using the below and it looks great and works great on an SDHC card.

Try this to get Apple trailer clips to work an standalones:

Requires QuickTime Pro:

If the video resolution shown at the bottom of the dialog box is EXACTLY 1920x1080 or 1280x720, then all is great, and you can skip steps but most have odd resolutions like 1280x544 or 1920x804

1. Select Export... menu
- Choose "Movie to MPEG-4"
- then click "Options..." button and see steps 2 and 3 below

2. Under Video Format,
- leave File Format as "MP4"
- change Video format to "H.264"
- Image Size select either 1920x1080 or 1280x720
- check "preserve aspect ratio" and make sure "Letterbox" is selected.
- Under framerate, select "current"
- change bitrate to something more appropriate for HD video anywhere - from 8000-10000

3. Under Audio Format,
- choose pass through

4. click Ok, then Save and wait, then you will have a proper input file for multiAVCHD

NOTE: Your video won't be scaled but the video will have to be reencoded to add the black letterbox bars to create an HD resolution image. If you want to do a multipass reencode for higher quality at the cost of additional encoding time, select the "Video options" button, and change the encoding mode to "Best Quality (Multi-pass)"

If you try this let me know how it works, I have only tried this on about 4 trailers but all worked great.

[jfcarbel]

There is an option in Settings - [x] Stricter AVCHD folder mode... you need to uncheck it.

And it is good to read the guide/tutorial sometimes, too :)

Sorry, I read the tutorial and made all the settings awhile ago. So it works and I forget what I had set everything too. What happens is when there is a full update, settings get lost. Memory is not as good as what it used to be :)

I tried once saving my ini file and always putting it back after a full install but it would sometimes reject it.

I will create a notes.txt file and keep it in the root so I don't forget next time. :stupid:

[deank]

Full updates (any updates) should not affect the settings (unless you're 20 builds behind). But a problem with a build betwen 540 and 543 made them reset unintentionally...

Build 547:

Mixed 4:3 / 16:9 MKV files are properly processed based on mkvinfo Display width/height info.
Panasonic SDHC option will not be unchecked on loading.
Warning pop-up for Panasonic is also gone.
Editor tab is now always visible. (Menu Tab will only show when you select an option to create a menu, thou)

And I'll call it a day... More to come :D

[jfcarbel]

About eac3to... it happens to fail with mov files, that's why I triple-backed it with mplayer and ffmpeg.

Dean, on my machine I get like 6 annoying popups about disk write errors when it tries to use eac3to. Not sure if its just related to MOV files only since I don't have much else to test it against. But wondering, if you can add a checkbox - "Always use other audio encode options, not eac3to" or something like that and with that checked it will use the other tools instead.

Unfortunately if I leave eac3to unchecked, for MOV file processing it will not default to the backup mplayer and ffmpeg and no stream gets created. Maybe a better solution is if MOV file is being processed and eac3to is not checked then just go ahead and use the others for AAC to AC3 conversion.

[Emulgator]

Unbelievable. Hats off to deank !
547 builds and 1540 posts in 116days.
I am so impressed, here comes my 50 € donation.

[deank]

:) Thanks!

[deank]

Build 548:

A serious bug with subtitles/video height/width when processing MKV files is fixed (introduced in build 545-546 - sorry).

[AVCHD for USB/SDHC/MS] and [AVCHD for DVD-R] buttons will now produce AVCHD compliant INDEX/CLPI/MPLS files - all will include the required Extended Data (IDEX/CLEX/PLEX).

Please someone with Panasonic/Samsung test if your players will play:

[AVCHD for DVD-R] output with [x] Stricter AVCHD folder mode checked (i.e. without CERTIFICATE/AUXDATA and all other non-AVCHD folders).

Dean

*****

NB!: Be advised that using BDedit with multiAVCHD index/playlist files will BREAK them and may render output unusable!

*****

A lot of build updates this afternoon... sorry. Latest is 549.

[deank]

Build 550:

For Panasonic SDHC mode:

You can now import previous AVCHD folders:

* normal multiAVCHD compilations
* Panasonic SDHC output type compilations
* Blu-ray BDMV folders, or
* Camcoder AVCHD structures.

:D

[deank]

Build 552:

* When importing AVCHD folders they will be identified by MAKER:
-- Sony
-- Panasonic
-- Canon
-- JVC
-- Nero
-- multiAVCHD
-- multiAVCHD for Panasonic TV
-- Blu-ray disc
-- or unknown (software product).
... and message is shown in the log tab.

* Fixed CPI/CLPI processing when importing AVCHD from camcoder (wrongly set resolution value).

* Reports show that [AVCHD for DVD-R] output from multiAVCHD
can be written to a DVD disc and played in BD players without the need
to put unneeded extra folders CERTIFICATE/AUXDATA/etc. which were used
to trick the player. Always use [x] Stricter AVCHD folder mode in Settings tab!

* I receive a lot of emails confirming that Panasonic SDHC output plays fine
in various models of SDHC-equipped Blu-ray players.
Panasonic TVs seem to refuse to play via SDHC at the moment.

Dean

[jsffm]

Hi,

first of all, an excelent program!

Following problem I had in the beginning of working with this program:

If I add a video with mp2-audio for automatic transcoding to ac3 and there are more than 1 audio-tracks inside, only the first audio-track is ok, all others are missing. Workaround for me: transcoding to ac3 before adding.
I didn´t see any changes for this issue in the changelog, so I guess the problem still exist.

One wish for the future:

Feeding the program with elementary streams. This is already impelemented for ac3-files, what I miss are m2v-files (video-only) and mp2-files.

Congratulations for this program.

[deank]

Does mediainfo provide correct information when processing m2v? multiAVCHD already supports .264 elementary stream and I can easily add .m2v. MP2 audio probably will not be added.

***

I added m2v support. Just run multiUPDATE.exe and try with *.m2v and *.ac3 to see what will happen.

[jsffm]

Does mediainfo provide correct information when processing m2v? multiAVCHD already supports .264 elementary stream and I can easily add .m2v. MP2 audio probably will not be added.

Your program doesn´t accept m2v directly. I tried folowing: Renaming from m2v to mpg and adding an ac3-audio track. Result was a m2ts-file with the audio-track, no video.

[deank]

Read my previous post. Also enable [x] Verbose logging and post your LOG. Also post a log from mediainfo.exe with a .m2v file.

[jsffm]

Read my previous post. Also enable [x] Verbose logging and post your LOG. Also post a log from mediainfo.exe with a .m2v file.

I will do this, when I´m at home this evening.

[jsffm]

I added m2v support. Just run multiUPDATE.exe and try with *.m2v and *.ac3 to see what will happen.

Works like a charm :-)

You are the Greatest!

You will find attached the logs.

Jsffm

[deank]

Build 552+/553+

* Added mpeg elementary stream support (m2v) (req)
* Added option for Panasonic Viera TV in Author (test)
* Fixed SSA to SRT conversion (unneeded comma at each line) (10x to drpaulng for noticing it)
* Fixed AAC to AC3 conversion (with eac3to option unchecked) (10x to mariner)
* Added MAKER ID for JVC camcoders when importing AVCHD folders (thanks to keysi_2 for the samples)
* Output AVCHD compilations will be marked with original maker id if imported from camcoder
* Warning in log if user creates [AVCHD for DVD/BD-R] without [x] Stricter AVCHD folder format option enabled
* Added support for index/playlist/clipinfo files larger than 64KB
* Version update prompt will show build number in pop-up question or "build+" if current build has a minor update.

User (Giuseppe Gagliardi) reported that build 552 allows multiAVCHD compilation to be played back in his Panasonic camcoder.

Dean

[jason_peters010]

Watched an 111 minute SDHC title on my BD35. No problems at all. Thanks for the great application!

Everyone, please contribute.

[deank]

It will be good if someone can test the new option with their Panasonic TVs and report in AVCHD for Panasonic SDHC thread.

[kenguru2005]

Since today I get the following error after proceeding:

http://home.arcor.de/spamlos/gif/290409.png

Problem solved ... thank you Dean

[deank]

:) Nice

So Build 556:

* Makes Panasonic TVs to play SDHC output (at least PAL TVs)
* Fixes with Title processing for AVCHD titles (thanks to kenguru2005)
* Panasonic BD players (using SDHC) should not get the 5-10 skip at playback start

Dean

[golemik]

Hi
How can I put files *.wmv in HD 1920x1080 to multiAVCHD
Thanks

[deank]

There is no support for WMV at this time.

***

Build 557:

* New panel in Author for Panasonic
* Option to force output resolution ID (for Panasonic SDHC compatibility) (1080i seems to work for most)

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiavchd_author.jpg

[deank]

multiAVCHD version 2.6 Build 558 - April 30th, 2009 (full):

5 available output formats, all with strict compliance to standards - 3 for solid media, 2 for optical (1 for DVD-R discs).

Be advised that:

* All 5 modes produce specific and different output.
* Output is formatted explicitly for the devices listed in "Playback compatibility" and media in use (solid/optical).
* AVCHD output is different than the one produced by tsMuxeR alone.
* If you input Blu-ray folders/playlists they can be converted to AVCHD.
* If you input AVCHD folders they can be converted to Blu-ray.

[AVCHD for USB/SDHC/MS (Playstation 3)]
* 8.3 filenames
* FAT32 4GiB file size limit
* Supports menu
* Content restrictions: NTSC consoles do not support PAL (25fps) content
* Complies with AVCHD version 1
* Media: USB flash, USB HDD, SD card, SDHC card, MemoryStick card
* Playback compatibility: Playstation 3, software players

[AVHCD for Panasonic SDHC]
* 8.3 filenames
* FAT32 4GiB file size limit
* No menu (Direct navigator only)
* Complies with AVCHD version 1
* Media: SD card, SDHC card
* Playback compatibility: Playstation 3, Panasonic Blu-ray players and camcoders via SDHC card, software players

[AVHCD for Panasonic TV]
* 8.3 filenames
* FAT32 4GiB file size limit
* No menu (Direct navigator only)
* Content restrictions (PAL/NTSC and 1080i/1080p forced resolution)
* Complies with AVCHD version 1
* Media: SD card, SDHC card
* Playback compatibility: Playstation 3, Panasonic BD players, Viera TV sets and camcoders via SDHC card, software players

[AVCHD for DVD/BD-R]
* Long filenames
* UDF 2.50/2.60 file system required
* Supports menu
* Complies with AVCHD version 1
* Stricter AVCHD folder format option is recommended (only standard folders)
* Media: DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD+RW/BD-R/BD-RE. Book-type for DVD media should be DVD-R/RW, but never DVD-ROM.
* Playback compatibility: Playstation 3 and most Blu-ray players via optical media, software players

[Blu-ray for BD-R]
* Long filenames
* UDF 2.50/2.60 file system required
* Supports menu
* Complies with BDMV version 1 / Profile 1
* Media: BD-R/BD-RE
* Playback compatibility: Playstation 3 and most Blu-ray players via BD-R disc, software players

Depending on the player you're using, you may have to use only H.264 (AVC) video files with AC3 or LPCM audio for all 4 AVCHD modes.

To improve compatibility with audio formats, enable all conversions in Audio/Subtitles tab:

* PCM->AC3
* DTS->AC3
* TrueHD/DTS-MA/HRA->AC3
* AAC->AC3
* Select proper bitrate for Non-HD and HD audio conversions (max 640).

Dean


****

Few fixes in 558: Wrong title count (set to 1) in some SDHC modes, all mpls/clpi/bdmv files are processed to ensure compliance to output mode.
In 558+: Warning pop-up if creating output for FAT32 USB/SD/SDHC/MS media with 4GiB file-size limitation, but split point in Muxer tab is greater than 4000MiB.

[jagzjagz]

AVCHD for USB works beautifully for my PS3. However, I play the .mts files directly from any folder on my USB.

The posts here say that I'm supposed to place it all in the ROOT\AVCHD folder.

What is the difference? When I try placing in the ROOT\AVCHD folder, and pushing X, nothing works. If it is supposed to display a menu this way, it doesn't display.

Clarifications?

[deank]

If you don't use the AVCHD mode you can't have a menu.

1) Start multiAVCHD
2) It will create AVCHD folder
3) Move it to the root of your USB drive. Root means top-most-level in your drive, i.e. no subfolders. Root for drive C: is C:\ for example.

By "root" I don't mean "F:\ROOT\AVCHD" but simply "F:\AVCHD".

And the "posts say" and the LOG TAB says: in the ROOT of your drive not folder ROOT\AVCHD of your drive.

[jagzjagz]

OK. I tried that and I still don't see a menu. But the file plays correctly when I go into the sub directory to play the stream. I copied \AVCHD directly to the F:\ drive, "F:\AVCHD". Anyone ever encountered this? Am I supposed to press 'X' on the folder itself? Or what do I play?

[deank]

You're supposed to press "X" when your USB drive is selected, not to use "triangle"+"Display all" or anything else. You will then see "AVCHD" title - press "X" agian. It will only work if you used "AVCHD for USB" button in multiAVCHD. And you will see a menu if you CREATED one in the options.

[jagzjagz]

Got you:) Thank you. That worked perfectly. Only issue I guess was that my 1920 x 800 (probably non standard) size video did not center vertically on screen. Displayed a big black box on the bottom as it played on top. I assume that is due to the video resolution though.

[deank]

Yes. If you don't need subtitles and DTS/HD audio you can use file-play-mode as before and no menu.

[johnm60]

hi

I have been trying to get a movie to play on my Panasonic BD-35 on an 8GB SDHC card. I have previously generated an mkv file that is 7.6G according to Windows explorer and 7,856,521,216 bytes on the file properties. When I build the structure for Panasonic SDHC, the resulting directory structure is 8,295,972,864 bytes. Now this will not fit on the 8G SDHC card which reports 8,160,542,720.

The issue seems to be that the final MTS is always almost the same size as the previous ones, and I would not expect that if the source file is smaller.

Directory of D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM

30/04/2009 19:55 <DIR> .
30/04/2009 19:55 <DIR> ..
30/04/2009 19:50 2,095,159,296 00000.MTS
30/04/2009 19:52 2,093,008,896 00001.MTS
30/04/2009 19:54 2,094,292,992 00002.MTS
30/04/2009 19:55 2,013,401,088 00003.MTS
4 File(s) 8,295,862,272 bytes
2 Dir(s) 128,296,513,536 bytes free

Even if I leave the default split to 3999M, I get:

Directory of D:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM

30/04/2009 18:12 <DIR> .
30/04/2009 18:12 <DIR> ..
30/04/2009 18:09 4,191,793,152 00000.MTS
30/04/2009 18:12 4,104,069,120 00001.MTS
2 File(s) 8,295,862,272 bytes
2 Dir(s) 128,296,513,536 bytes free

Is there something I am doing that is wrong? This is build 558.

Thanks
John

[deank]

You're doing nothing wrong. Buy a 16GB card if you want to use such large files. Another option is to cut last few minutes from your video (like with credits).

M2TS/MTS has about 7 to 11% overhead, depending on your audio/subtitle tracks. You can't have 7.5GiB MKV to be 7.5GiB m2ts - it will always get bigger.

[benchmarkjoe]

Hi Deank,
Would you look at the log file that I just convert from MKC to AVCHD to burn DVD-R that will be burned and play to Panasonic BD60? Should I use Nero9 or ImgBurn to DVD-R?

[18:54:16] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.6 (build 558)
[18:54:16] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[18:54:16] Temp folder does not exist. Set to C:\_TEMP.
[18:54:16] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[18:54:16] Converting to BDMV structure (C:\Temp\E13.mkv).
[18:54:16] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC:1280x720 29.970fps (AR:1.78)
[18:54:16] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3:audio (48000Hz/2ch) Language: und
[18:54:16] Adding subtitles (E13.srt) (und)
[18:54:16] Creating Blu-ray folders (tsMuxer)...
[18:54:55] Done!
[18:54:55] Processing playlist (00000.mpls)...
[18:55:00] Preparing authoring information...
[18:55:00] Top menu skipped. Playback will start from Title#1.
[18:55:01] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[18:55:01] Forced sequential playback from Title#1 forward.
[18:55:01] Completed.
[18:55:01] Done!
[18:55:02] C:\AVCHD\AVCHD folder created!
[18:55:02] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD-R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!

[Bakafish]

Dean, I haven't tested this yet, but is it correct to think that the Panasonic TV support is only for 1080i files?

[davsim]

Hi Deank,
Would you look at the log file that I just convert from MKC to AVCHD to burn DVD-R that will be burned and play to Panasonic BD60? Should I use Nero9 or ImgBurn to DVD-R?
Use ImgBurn and burn UDF 2.5.
Open ImgBurn
Click "Write files/folders to disc" (Mode: Build from main menu)
Make sure Output: Device is selected in the main menu
Add your folder
Click the Options tab
File System: UDF
UDF Revision: 2.50
Click the Labels tab
UDF: enter a name for your disc
Click build

Your disc should have the BDMV folder at the top/root level and the following sub-folders and files.

BDMV
BDMV\BACKUP
BDMV\CLIPINF
BDMV\PLAYLIST
BDMV\STREAM
BDMV\index.bmv
BDMV\MovieObject.bdmv

[18:54:16] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC:1280x720 29.970fps (AR:1.78)
I'm not sure if that file is a compatible frame rate. It might play and it might not. 720P files should be 60p, 50p or 24p to ensure compatibility.

See the AVCHD specs to determine if your file should be compatible:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD#Specifications

If the video doesn't play, make sure 24P Output is disabled in the Setup menu. (TV/Device Connection: HDMI Connection: 24P Output)

[deank]

Hi Deank,
Would you look at the log file that I just convert from MKC to AVCHD to burn DVD-R that will be burned and play to Panasonic BD60? Should I use Nero9 or ImgBurn to DVD-R?

1) If you have SD card you can create a compilation for copying to SD/SDHC instead of burning.
2) Use the built-in option "Use ImgBurn" - it will make things easier.

It is better to use ImgBurn. Check it's settings, because the new version adds CERTIFICATE folder, which should not be added and is not present in the output.

Dean, I haven't tested this yet, but is it correct to think that the Panasonic TV support is only for 1080i files?

I put the 'force resolution' drop-down just in case. Use "Original" and test if your file is not 1080i/1080p. If it doesn't work - try with 1080i.

1920x1080 is AVCHD. 1280x720 is AVCHD lite, so may be Panasonic TV is not compatible (directly) with AVCHD lite.

Dean

[deank]

A small update for 559:

* Added information for detected video/resolution/etc when processing m2ts/ts/mpeg/mpg...files
* Added information about frame reference count (ref count) and warning if input video is not compliant (again for m2ts/mts)
* Fixed aspect ratio problem with some anamorphic 720x480/720x576 mkv files.

Dean

[strad]

Hello,
I would like to ask two questions:
1.) the menu screen shows 12 chapters to each title, scrolling to further chapters I couldn´t manage. Is that normal or do I miss something in the programs setup?
2.) what is the recommended format to burn, UDF 2.50 or 2.60, and what actually makes the difference?
Thank you!

[deank]

1) Maximum of 12 chapter thumbnails is available at this time
2) It doesn't matter if you use 2.50 or 2.60.

More about changes in UDF 2.60 you will find in section 6.17 - pages 155+ in this document (http://www.osta.org/specs/pdf/udf260.pdf) from osta.org (Optical Storage Technology Association).

[turbojet]

Is there any chance of a 'play all' button?

[deank]

Play all is implemented.

[x] Sequential title playback

if combined with:

[x] Skip welcome screen
[x] Skip top menu playback
[x] Quit on last title finished

or simply [x] No menu and [x] Quit on last title...

you will get "Auto play" on insert + "Play all" + Stop at the end.

[strad]

thank you Dean for the immidiate response and the link!

That´s quite a huge document, which I will try to look through later, but the last pages already give a certain overview.
Right now I found also this on Wikipedia:
2.50 (April 2003) für BD-RE
2.60 (March 2005) für BD-R
so one should prefer the specific version according to the type of disc?

[turbojet]

I realize that but 'play all' is much more descriptive and very common with retail menus.
I'm not saying as a replacement but mostly for commonality.

[deank]

thank you Dean for the immidiate response and the link!

That´s quite a huge document, which I will try to look through later, but the last pages already give a certain overview.
Right now I found also this on Wikipedia:
2.50 (April 2003) für BD-RE
2.60 (March 2005) für BD-R
so one should prefer the specific version according to the type of disc?

It's not quite like that...

6.16.3 Requirements for Blu-ray Disc Recordable Format (BD-R)
A Blu-ray Recordable disc (BD-R) is a Write-Once medium that can use Sequential
Recording Mode (SRM) either with or without Logical OverWrite (LOW). Drive based
defect management using the linear replacement algorithm is supported.
The Pseudo OverWrite (POW) Method as described in 6.15 can be applied on BD-R
media formatted using SRM with LOW.
The BD-R File System Format shall comply with UDF revision 2.60 for SRM with LOW
(POW) and shall comply with UDF 2.50 for SRM without LOW (non-POW).

I guess ImgBurn's author can say more about it. Defect-management is one thing that may be different.

I realize that but 'play all' is much more descriptive and very common with retail menus.
I'm not saying as a replacement but mostly for commonality.

I may rename [x] Sequential.. with [x] Play all... or use a HINT on mouse hover.

I can't put "Play all" button in the menu atm.

[strad]

Thank you for pointing out - I understand much better!

and

I may rename [x] Sequential.. with [x] Play all...

Good idea!

[deank]

If you use multiUPDATE.exe you will get it.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_author.jpg

[strad]

You are really the fastest and incredible one!

[turbojet]

I may rename [x] Sequential.. with [x] Play all... or use a HINT on mouse hover.

I can't put "Play all" button in the menu atm.

OK is it a limitation or just takes a lot of work to add a menu button?

Speaking of menu buttons is 'hiding' them so they are no longer accessible something you have knowledge about?

[strad]

besides "menu buttons" one little thing:
in the BDMV folder are two files - index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv -
is it essential to include those in the burning?

[deank]

Hiding and/or making a button inaccessible is easy. Adding a button is not hard, but it takes programming inside movieobject or/and the .m2ts file itself.

@strad: These two are one of the most important files that control BDMV/AVCHD playback. Without them nothing will work.

[turbojet]

Would you be up to writing a program that hides menu buttons and blanks titles (already figured out with a long hack) at some point?

I was going to try to learn to code to do this, but it's way above my head.

strad: yes the bdmv files are critical

[strad]

Thanks!
So I´m glad I didn´t delete those (as first intended), before burning yesterday my movies (46GB) on BD-R ....

[deank]

I don't think I can make it atm. I can do it manually, of course. There are too many variables/variations per title/bd-rom that it is hard to code it in a tool.

@strad: NEVER remove ANYTHING from multiAVCHD output.

[strad]

Yes, Sir!

[turbojet]

I don't think I can make it atm. I can do it manually, of course. There are too many variables/variations per title/bd-rom that it is hard to code it in a tool.

I understand and you already have a lot on your plate.

The menu buttons are a complete mystery to me. However I think I know just about everything about the blanking/stripping except how to change the mpls correctly while keeping the navigation commands.

[deank]

Button graphics are stored in the menu m2ts files (not mpls). Navigational commands can be stored in the same m2ts or a linked (via subpath) m2ts file. Navigational commands for button actions can be also in the movieobject (and in the m2ts). It is not so simple, really.

[strad]

using TsMuxer GUI I can choose the chapter interval manually.
Is there a chance to get at least a second interval (like 10 min.) besides the 5 min. in multiAVCHD?

[deank]

Yes, read the 1st post. Use movie.txt with your movie.mkv and put chapter marks in it.

[strad]

Sorry, I tried to find out, what you mean, but don´t understand, only find multiCHAP.txt in the finished compilation with 5 movies.
Why not just put in your program a second line for 10 min.?

[deank]

If you load a video file called MOVIE.MKV put another file MOVIE.TXT in the same folder and edit it to contain:

00:10:00.000;00:20:00.000;00:30:00.000.... etc.

[strad]

now I get it - one has to make a new *.txt file for the movie. Forgive me, but "use movie.txt" sounded more like an already existing file.
Thank you!

[deank]

Upon your suggestion - I'll make this "Add each 5min" to be configurable to any value in minutes.

[strad]

Fantastic, that´s a lot more comfortable (I didn´t dare to ask for that) - again: Thank you very much!

[turbojet]

Button graphics are stored in the menu m2ts files (not mpls). Navigational commands can be stored in the same m2ts or a linked (via subpath) m2ts file. Navigational commands for button actions can be also in the movieobject (and in the m2ts). It is not so simple, really.

Oh menus are quite a bit different then the way I understand how titles work. Blanking/stripping titles with a blank m2ts only rarely works. Replacing the clpi and mpls from tsmuxer helps but if the original mpls has more then one title in the playlist it doesn't work. At least this is the conclusion I've come to after researching for about 6 hours I'd guess. I'm really caught on what really needs to be changed in the mpls to ensure playback. I could code something crude to move files within a few days but I'm clueless on editing files through code.

[deank]

Yes, mpls files keep entry/skip points with PTS time-stamps which change when tsMuxeR is used.

[strad]

one final thing on that chapter item:
I imported 2 movies (full BDMV structure on HDD) by playlist and added 3 other movie-files (2mts) choosing "keep original chapters". Result on disc was: the full movies still had original chapter marks, the files (before without chapters) became automaticly added 5 min. marks.
So what will happen, if I choose 10 min. with your intended free chapter configuration - will also the original chapters become changed?

[deank]

Check the guide/tutorial... You seem to have a lot of questions.

Logic is:

Original chapters (if (o) Keep original is selected)
Add each 5min (overrides the previous)
External (overrides previous 2).

[benchmarkjoe]

Your disc should have the BDMV folder at the top/root level and the following sub-folders and files.

BDMV
BDMV\BACKUP
BDMV\CLIPINF
BDMV\PLAYLIST
BDMV\STREAM
BDMV\index.bmv
BDMV\MovieObject.bdmv


I'm not sure if that file is a compatible frame rate. It might play and it might not. 720P files should be 60p, 50p or 24p to ensure compatibility.

See the AVCHD specs to determine if your file should be compatible:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD#Specifications

If the video doesn't play, make sure 24P Output is disabled in the Setup menu. (TV/Device Connection: HDMI Connection: 24P Output)[/QUOTE]

Davsim, my MKV file is 720/30p and this could be the problem. We are N. America. About the Panasonic Blu-ray player, I set this to 24p.
Do you think I should convert 720/30p to 24p?

[deank]

I don't know who was this pointed out to...

[strad]

If you don´t use quotation marks properly (beginning is missing), nobody will understand your post, which actually refers to one page before, especially when it has nothing to do with the current discussion. Pardon me!

[benchmarkjoe]

1) If you have SD card you can create a compilation for copying to SD/SDHC instead of burning.
2) Use the built-in option "Use ImgBurn" - it will make things easier.

It is better to use ImgBurn. Check it's settings, because the new version adds CERTIFICATE folder, which should not be added and is not present in the output.



I put the 'force resolution' drop-down just in case. Use "Original" and test if your file is not 1080i/1080p. If it doesn't work - try with 1080i.

1920x1080 is AVCHD. 1280x720 is AVCHD lite, so may be Panasonic TV is not compatible (directly) with AVCHD lite.

Dean

Deank, I love to use sd card for myself, but this DVD-R will be send to my friend to view.

[benchmarkjoe]

If you don´t use quotation marks properly (beginning is missing), nobody will understand your post, which actually refers to one page before, especially when it has nothing to do with the current discussion. Pardon me!

Sorry, I did not specific

[davsim]

Davsim, my MKV file is 720/30p and this could be the problem. We are N. America.

[18:55:02] C:\AVCHD\AVCHD folder created!
[18:55:02] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD-R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
Did you already burn those files to disc exactly as I instructed? If not, try that first before converting the video. Your video might play as-is.

Deank, I love to use sd card for myself, but this DVD-R will be send to my friend to view.
The SD card should be used for testing to ensure compatibility before burning to DVD-R.

If you have an SD Card large enough, just add your video, then create Panasonic SDHC AVCHD output. Copy that to your SD card, then see if it plays.

If you don't have a large enough card, you can set the authoring option to just create and SD card file with a small segment of the video that will fit.

Otherwise, just burn the files to DVD-R as I explained and see if it plays or not.

If it doesn't play, then start re-encoding tests. 720P 24fps is a valid AVCHD resolution/framerate, so you should try that next.

About the Panasonic Blu-ray player, I set this to 24p.
Do you think I should convert 720/30p to 24p?
As I explained in my post the Blu-ray should NOT be set to 24P. Disable that in your player setting (the exact menu was described in my earlier post) if you want to play AVCHD files from SD card or DVD-R.

Depending on your video file, it might or might not work. I have seen people reporting that some AVCHD will NOT play with the player on 24P. If this is on in your player settings turn it off. After playing AVCHD, if you want 24P on for regular DVD and Bluray, then you can turn it back on.

24P is off on my BD60 player and compliant AVCHD files play from both SD card and DVD-R just fine.

[davsim]

@benchmarkjoe:

I just tested a 1280x720 29.97P clip on my BD60 and it plays fine, even though it is a non-compliant AVCHD frame rate.

If you test your video on SD card or burn your files as I described and it doesn't play, then re-read this thread and others in this forum to find many different settings and options you can try.

[deank]

Build 562+/563+:

* Updated: mediainfo to 0.7.15 in tools (full download (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download.php) or download it yourself (http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=mediainfo&filename=MediaInfo_CLI_0.7.15_Windows_i386.zip&use_mirror=kent) and put mediainfo.exe/dll in tools)
* Added: audio delay in MKV is now processed (with updated mediainfo)
* Added: more warnings added in LOG tab if outputting AVCHD format with non AVC/H.264 video streams
* Added: BREAK/STOP will be inserted after last title if no menu is generated
* Added: Force framerate option in Author tab for Panasonic SDHC output (to overcome NTSC playback issues in PAL players)
* Fixed: major problem with playlist parsing if importing Blu-ray or camcoder structures
* Fixed: playlist may become broken and output unplayable
* Fixed: "Original" in Force resolution list for Panasonic - not working properly
* Fixed: Removed unnecessary files in clipinf/playlist/stream/+backup folders in selected output modes
* Changed: Force framerate and resolution default to 25.000/1080i and available only with Panasonic Viera TV output mode
* Changed: AVCHD index.bdm IDEX segment generated properly and set correctly for first playback playlist/stream
* Added info: Version history link (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/version_history.txt) in 1st post
* Added info: Contents info link (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/contents.txt) in 1st post

============================================================

Latest build is reported to be successful in processing input from and producing output for/to:

* Sony Vegas (output/save as Sony AVC, template AVCHD 1920x1080 NTSC/PAL 5.1 Surround)
* Panasonic HDwriter
* Camcoders (HD)
* Panasonic Viera TVs with AVCHD support
* Various brands/models of Blu-ray players and Playstation®3 (DVD and BD-R/RE media / SDHC cards / USB flash drives / USB HDD)

============================================================

These results all prove the compliance of multiAVCHD output with AVCHD/BD standards, which was the ultimate goal for the last month.
Thank you all for the patience, for all the testing and reporting back.

Guide / tutorial (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php) is updated. (May 3rd, 2009)

Dean

[espero]

Dean: I have a question regarding multiAVCHD and my Sony SR11 camcorder. My movie has 790 shoots. I would like to author it to Blu-ray disc. I am not sure if specification of Blu-ray format supports 790 titles? Will it play sequently without gaps between scenes?

[deank]

No, I don't think it supports so many titles. If it is 1 title with multiple mts files in 10-20-30-40-100 playlists - it will work.

[espero]

No, I don't think it supports so many titles. If it is 1 title with multiple mts files in 10-20-30-40-100 playlists - it will work.

So it is better not to import original (there is one) mpl but import all 790 mts (multiAVCHD will create 790 playlists). Am I right?
The question is if it will play smoothly without gaps between scenes...

I think I am lost... can you please tell me how to do this in the best way? :(

[deank]

1) Create a backup of your Sony AVCHD folder
2) Drag it to multiAVCHD
3) Create AVCHD for DVD/BD-R

and test. There should be no gaps. Don't import the mts files directly, because each mts will become title, and multiAVCHD will not process more than 40. If you import the original folder it will create one title with one playlist and up to 1000 mts files.

[deank]

multiAVCHD is now updated to identify and report:

* selected models of Panasonic camcoderс when importing AVCHD folders
* popBD input and
* the recording / creation date of your imported AVCHD folder

Dean

[aladdino]

Thank you Dean,

perfect work with delay audio vs video in mkv... It works perfect.

[jsffm]

multiupdate doesn´t work here. It asks for updating, if yes, it does something, starts the program again and aks for updating and so on, a loop.

[jagzjagz]

So this Batman Begins 1080p MKV file doesn't seem to want to work. Non standard video at 1920 x 800. However the other one I had did work. Any suggestions? The sample .mkv 50MB file converted fine, but the actual 4GB MKV files don't seem to work!

Log File:
*REMOVED*

[Jackal1985]

Quick question... I have a blank 4gb memory card and a Panasonic Vierra TV (TH-58PZ800u). What all do I need to do to get the set to recognized the card? multiAVCHD creates the AVCHD files just fine and everything and it says to put it in the folder "X:\Private" on the SD card. Does that mean I should just create those folders on the card? Because my computer doesn't let me use : or \ in the file names...

Aside from those questions, everything else is working great! Normally I just create a DVD with the files on them and it works beyond flawlessly (w/ my Sony BDP-S1), but this is the only issue I've run into so far.

[deank]

multiupdate doesn´t work here. It asks for updating, if yes, it does something, starts the program again and aks for updating and so on, a loop.

Sorry. 1 of the update servers was down.

@jagzjagz: Remove your post. You're breaking the forum rules!

Quick question... I have a blank 4gb memory card and a Panasonic Vierra TV (TH-58PZ800u). What all do I need to do to get the set to recognized the card? multiAVCHD creates the AVCHD files just fine and everything and it says to put it in the folder "X:\Private" on the SD card.

1) Go to Computer/My computer
2) Double-Click the icon with your SecureDigital Card
3) Right-click, select 'New... Folder'
4) Name it PRIVATE
5) Copy multiAVCHD's output AVCHD folder inside the PRIVATE folder.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/SD_private.jpg

[deank]

2 issues I found this morning:

1) new mediainfo reports chapters in different format and multiAVCHD does not detect them (fixed)
2) non-matroska muxers seem to produce EBML structure for MKV files in unexpected way and mkvinfo reports info which multiAVCHD cannot understand

I will remove mkvinfo from the package and will use only mediainfo in next build.

I'll post later when I make it all work fine.

[deank]

Build 564:

* mkvinfo is no longer used for obtaining info from MKV files
* fixed some bugs related to the former use of mkvinfo
* fixed chapters reported by mediainfo
* language tags in mkv are now properly set (if exist) - no more "und" languages

This should eliminate problems with localized versions of mkvtoolnix or new mkv muxers.

I hope nothing broke during the transition.

Dean

[jagzjagz]

Thanks deanK. Latest update is now processing my 1080p Batman Begins file correctly (!).

[deank]

Nice. Thanks for pointing out the problem, because probably more mkv files will appear around with the same problem.

multiAVCHD should have no problems with them from now on.

[mCmAl]

What can I do to get round this problem?

[18:50:29] ffmpeg refused to convert audio!
[18:50:29] Audio codec (A_AAC) is unsupported! Skipping track.

[deank]

1) Download eac3to (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966) (if you don't have it)
2) Enable it in Audio / Subtitles tab and select eac3to.exe
3) Try again

There should be more info in the log file. Paste all lines about this file (detected audio.... to the error).

It is the 1st time I see that ffmpeg will refuse to convert audio. It is possible that it is in some weird AAC format.

Dean

[jagzjagz]

Alright. Thought it worked great. MTS files generated but the audio lags behind the actual video by around 1-2 seconds max. AC3 for audio, MP4 for video. Any reason why this could be the case? MKV was split at 3900MB, into two files, 3900 and a 600MB file.

[deank]

1st suggestion: download the COMPLETE multiAVCHD package. It contains the new mediainfo which handles audio delays in MKV files.

2nd: post what (NEW) mediainfo says about your file.

[jagzjagz]

Ok. Mediainfo is being used. It is the complete multiAVCHD package up to date (as far as I am aware).

Mediainfo post:

General
Complete name : f:\torrents\batman~1\BatmanDisk1.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 4.25 GiB
Duration : 1h 7mn
Overall bit rate : 8 996 Kbps
Writing application : AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.7, Aug 8 2006 20:59:17
Writing library : matroska muxer by Alexander Noe, build date A
ug 8 2006

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 6 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.0
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 7mn
Bit rate : 8 369 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 8 225 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.400
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.227
Stream size : 3.95 GiB (93%)
Writing library : x264 core 54 svn-620M
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=0:0:0 / analyse=0x3
:0x113 / me=hex / subme=6 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / t
rellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=2 /
nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / d
irect=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc
=2pass / bitrate=8225 / ratetol=4.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / q
pmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_r
atio=1.30
Language : English

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 7mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 217 MiB (5%)
Title : Batman

[deank]

up to date means: download it now. This medianfo does not report any audio delays - so multiAVCHD won't process any.

Writing library : matroska muxer by Alexander Noe, build date Aug 8 2006

This is really old mkv muxer and it could be the reason for all the problems.

[jagzjagz]

I ran mediainfo through the command line. This is the latest multiAVCHD package offered at the beginning of this thread (v2.6 build 564). Why would it say this? What additional/other package am I supposed to download? Or did you mean the file itself was muxxed incorrectly using an old muxxer? I tried another file also and experienced the same audio lag issue.

[11:49:20] Initialising...
[11:49:21] Checking for new version...
[11:49:21] You have the latest build.
[11:49:21] [04/05/2009] build 564 (latest is: 564) - MKV files are processed with mediainfo. mkvinfo is no longer used.
[11:49:21] File consistency check finished!
[11:49:21] Initialisation finished. multiAVCHD is ready!

[11:49:21] 123 days since multiAVCHD was published.
[11:49:21] 67 people donated
[11:49:21] and you are the 206765 one to launch the program...
[11:49:21] Support multiAVCHD to extend its features and keep it free!

[11:49:21] This multiAVCHD build uses:
[11:49:21] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.9.9

[Mike1029]

Hi Deank,
I failed to include over 28 titles in one multiavchd and the program only shows me first 2 pages but not 3rd. I also found that there are only two menus being built in Stream folder. Is there any way to workaround this so that I can consolidate over 28 titles in one go. Thank you.

[turbojet]

Speaking of updating external tools does mkvmerge 2.53 without TrueHD support hinder anything?

If so the latest release version 2.70 has a bug when splitting files but it's been fixed in this build (http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/pre/mkvtoolnix-unicode-2.7.0-build20090416-121-setup.exe)

[deank]

Hi Deank,
I failed to include over 28 titles in one multiavchd and the program only shows me first 2 pages but not 3rd.

If you check the guide (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php), you'll find something like:


- LIST MENU: two pages x 14 titles and another 12 RC accessible, or
- THUMBNAIL MENU: four pages x 7 titles and another 12 RC accessible (use your player's remote-control or info-menu)
- XMB style MENU: up-to 40 scrollable titles (similar to Playstation3 cross-media-bar XMB)

* RC accessible = using GO TO function with your Remote Control Unit.

You're best option is to use XMB styled menu.

***

@jagzjagz: You probably have the latest version of all tools. Another user reported that video-delays are handled properly if the writing application is at least mkvmerge v2.3.0 ('Freak U') built on Sep 9 2008 17:43:22...


Dean

[Mike1029]

Dear Deank,
Yes, I know the titles 29-40 are RC accessible and I tried to press all the buttons in my PS3 RC and no button can lead me to 3rd pages of menu. Would you please tell me which button in RC functions as "GO TO". So sorry for asking such a stupid question.

[deank]

In Classic menu (list menu) you have only two pages, each with 14 titles. There are NO other pages to go to.

This menu type was the initial/first menu type in multiAVCHD and has a restriction.

With your PS3 remote your can press:

1) TRIANGLE
2) there is an arrow with text "GO TO" - find it and press "X"
3) you'll see: "TITLE CHAPTER TIME" at the bottom
4) change "TITLE" to 29 for example.

If you have Blu-ray remote control - simply type "29" and title will change to 29 or use the joypad and the digits when you press "TRIANGLE".

I think it will work ONLY while playing a title, but I may be wrong.

***

Using XMB will be better for you I think.

[deank]

I read an article by Sydon777 at hdtv.pl.com:

http://hdtv.com.pl/forum/showthread.php?p=367424#post367424

I'm not sure if I understood it correctly, but there seem to be some misunderstanding about importing folders/playlists from camcoders.

multiAVCHD presents two options:

1) To import an AVCHD or BDMV folder and let you rearrange/remove individual playlists.

In this mode multiAVCHD will keep all MTS/M2TS files which belong to the selected playlists (the ones you see in AVCHD editor if you have [x] Edit AVCHD contents on loading option enabled).

2) To import INDIVIDUAL playlist files.

This option lets you import MPLS files. In camcoder/AVCHD you may have one MPLS file, containing 50 scenes for example in 50 different M2TS files.

If you import MPLS (connected to 20 scenes in 20M2TS+20CLPI) the result will be ONE MPLS + ONE M2TS + ONE CLPI - with all 20 scenes joined/merged (if you have a split setting you may get 2 or more clpi/m2ts pairs).

Here comes the important note: Usually your camcoder files will be in 8.3 file naming format, i.e. 00000.MPL, 00000.CPI, 00000.MTS.

MPLS import WILL NOT WORK if your files are not in long-name format - it is a restriction of tsMuxeR. I asked tsMuxeR's author to enable xxxxx.MPL playlist import, so probably in some of the next versions it will be available without renaming 8.3 to long filenames.

So, if you want to add a playlist from your camcoder AVCHD structure you need to convert all filenames (for example with AVCHD Manager or AVCHDme-undo). Then you can import the playlist you need.

Panasonic HDwriter stores all transferred AVCHD folders in AVCHDL with long filenames - that's why multiAVCHD has no problems importing playlists from folders already stored by HDwriter.

Nothing about playlist importing is changed between builds 540 and 564.

Dean

[deank]

Build 565:

* Loading speed is significantly improved if no "welcome screen" is used (i.e. the time it takes for your player to display the menu or start playback from title#1 if no menu is created)
* Some changes in Audio/Subtitles tab

Dean

[nwg]

Has anyone had problems with Samsung BD players recognising discs with the latest versions?

I like creating 720p/1080p trailers on DVD/BD-RE from downloaded trailers. I convert the trailers to BD format using ripbot then import them into multiavchd for the menu. I did a disc in January the DVD worked fine with a Samsung BDP 1500. I have done another disc on both DVD and BD and now the same player does nothing. I saids menu on the player but nothing on the screen and then it stops the disc.

The strange thing is I tried the same discs in a Sony S350 and they all work.

[deank]

Try:

1) Disable [-] Stricter AVCHD folder format option in Settings (or enable if disabled)
2) Use [AVCHD for DVD/BD-R] button for DVD or better [Blu-ray for BD-R] if using BD-R/RE disc.

Dean

[nwg]

Try:

1) Disable [-] Stricter AVCHD folder format option in Settings (or enable if disabled)
2) Use [AVCHD for DVD/BD-R] button for DVD or better [Blu-ray for BD-R] if using BD-R/RE disc.

Dean

I don't use the stricter avchd option so I will try that. I have already used both compile options.

[turbojet]

If you are using 2.3 firmware BDMV/AUXDATA folder breaks playback.

[nwg]

If you are using 2.3 firmware BDMV/AUXDATA folder breaks playback.

I assume you are talking about the Sammy. The player is still using the original UK firmware it always has.

[deank]

That's why I posted few times (and there is a WARNING in the log tab) that without STRICTER option your player may refuse to play multiAVCHD's output.

If you're using ImgBurn - make sure it doesn't add CERTIFICATE for you. In 2.4.2.0 uncheck [-] Add AUDIO_TS and in later versions there should be similar option to not include CERTIFICATE.

[turbojet]

I assume you are talking about the Sammy. The player is still using the original UK firmware it always has.

Ya samsung 1500.

That's why I posted few times (and there is a WARNING in the log tab) that without STRICTER option your player may refuse to play multiAVCHD's output.

However it may be the opposite with Denon and Phillips players that need the AUXDATA directory. Unfortunately there is no one for sure working way yet.

[deank]

It is not the folders only. Panasonics which refused to play without these folders now play fine, because mpls/clpi/bdmv files are what they're supposed to be and there should be no need to trick/use auxdata/certificate. Still no one with denon/philips reported anything.

[nwg]

That's why I posted few times (and there is a WARNING in the log tab) that without STRICTER option your player may refuse to play multiAVCHD's output.

If you're using ImgBurn - make sure it doesn't add CERTIFICATE for you. In 2.4.2.0 uncheck [-] Add AUDIO_TS and in later versions there should be similar option to not include CERTIFICATE.

Well, I never had to use the stricter option in the past and it worked.

I found about the certificate folder myself last year as I read it from wikipedia that it wasn't in the avchd folder structure.

[deank]

A lot of options changed in multiAVCHD since january. You can post your log if you wish more help.

[turbojet]

It is not the folders only. Panasonics which refused to play without these folders now play fine, because mpls/clpi/bdmv files are what they're supposed to be and there should be no need to trick/use auxdata/certificate. Still no one with denon/philips reported anything.

I asked the active Denon user on this board if he could test avchd_strict.iso

[sp99]

Hello Dean,

I've been following the thread for a while (and trying to keep up :thanks:), great program.

A really good feature would be to accept an elementary vc1 stream.

At the moment my workflow is to demux via eac3to as from what I've read it handles the multi branching titles better than others.

Then use tsmuxer to create a m2ts from the vc1 or if its an avc go directly to multiavchd.

I understand vc1 is not part of the avchd spec but as it works on a ps3 and a lot of bluray and hd dvd are encoded that way, it would be very useful.

If its not possible perhaps you could remove the warning messages when creating avchd for a ps3

Thanks

Simon

[deank]

I added *.vc1 elementary streams support and the warning will be shown only when creating [AVCHD for DVD/BD-R] or [AVCHD for Panasonic SDHC/TV].

Update to 565+.

Dean :)

[Eric B]

It would be nice that the setting "delete temp files"
a) remove only the files created during the process and not all files of the directory (I've just lost some files :(, not very important, but anyway...)
b) delete also the empty directories created.

[deank]

a) You need to set a TEMP folder to be used ESPECIALLY by multiAVCHD

b) Delete temp deletes TEMP files... that's it...

If I could have made it delete folders I would have done it.

* late edit * I'm reviewing all the 11000 lines of multiAVCHD code to find what's preventing folder deletion. It was bothered me since the beginning anyway.

[deank]

Just to let all users who may get "This version is expired" message.

You shouldn't tweak your system date/time. Each mutliAVCHD build will only work within specific time-range (random +/- few weeks), based on the REAL DATE. If you have the latest full download/latest (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744) update and you're part of our universe - it will all work. I've seen a lot of messages in various forums that their latest multiAVCHD build won't work - well - it won't if you cheat.

Another reminder: Download (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744)multiAVCHD only from the links in the first (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744)post, from Softpedia, DigitalDigest or VideoHelp (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/multiAVCHD)(thanks to whoever cares for all the updates@videohelp).

[B2K24]

deank Thank you very much for your program. I never thought possible to play HD video from a SDHC card with Panasonic BD-30. I appreciate all your work.
One question please if i may. Is DTS audio supported? I have been successful with AC3 and either 1280X720 or 1920X1080 video but have not had chance to test DTS from dvd+r or dvd+r dl
is DTS and DTS HD audio's supported via AVCHD folder output? or it must be downmixed to 640 kbps ac3?

[deank]

Yes, a lot of people reported that DTS and DTS-MA work in their Panasonic BD players via SD card.

SeeMoreDigital posted (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1280784#post1280784): Here's something unexpected....

I created some AVCHD SD card muxes with 6Ch DD+, 6Ch DTS and 8Ch DTS MA. The all play fine on my BD35 and push the correct audio bit-stream via HDMI to my Onkyo amplifier

Very impressive!

I don't know if BD30 is so much different than BD30 - just give it a try.

[deank]

Build 566:

I decided to share with you an undocumented function of multiAVCHD :)

* If you don't need a menu
* If your video files don't need the fix of the green-bar (i.e. your files are 720x480, 720x576, 1280x720, 1440x1080 or 1920x1080)
* If you enable [x] Panasonic SDHC ouput

you can put up to 255 titles in one compilation.

Output is directly compatible with Panasonic BD players, Viera TV sets, Playstation 3 with USB, SDHC or MemoryStick card.

You can of course apply AVCHDme-undo (convert 8.3 filenames to long format) and burn the output BDMV folder to a DVD or BD-R disc and play it in any other Blu-ray player.

I hope someone finds it useful.

Dean

*** EDIT ***

in build 566+:

If you have [x] No menu checked and creating Panasonic output - filenames will be in 8.3 format - suitable for SDHC/USB/MS (the way it was working before)
If you have [x] Create top menu checked and creating Panasonic output - you'll get a pop-up question if you want to use long-filenames (for burning to DVD/BD-R) or use 8.3 name format. (it is useful if you're creating 40+ titles to play in blu-ray players via optical media - it will save you the time to rename all files with other tools from 8.3 to long filenames).

The second case is the same as having another button saying [AVCHD for DVD/BD-R without menu in case of 41 to 255 titles]

In both cases - menu is skipped and not created, but you already know that.

[deank]

Few things in store for you :)

* 19 pages for Classic (list) menu (18 pages x 14 titles + 3 = 255 titles max)
* 37 pages (x 7 titles) for Thumbnail menu (36 pages x 7 titles + 3 = 255 titles max)
* 255 scrollable titles in XMB (with "skip 10" button - as suggested by zoner for faster scrolling)
* Carousel styled menu (designed by Atak_Snajpera)
* Thumbnails for chapters/title backgrounds will be saved in output folder and adding titles to existing structure will take seconds instead of 20-30 mins. I got kind of tired waiting for 1 title addition to 20 existing. It was in my plans since I added this 'poster image" (unavailable) option.

Dean

[turbojet]

How about clips with many chapters?

It would be really nice if a disk with just a movie would use a scene selection like menu as root.

[deank]

Once I'm finished with Carousel menu, chapter thumbnails will be available for XMB also, scrollable (left/right) and will not be limited to 12, but to as many as movie contains.

[Aai em ron]

Few things in store for you :)

* 19 pages for Classic (list) menu (18 pages x 14 titles + 3 = 255 titles max)
* 37 pages (x 7 titles) for Thumbnail menu (36 pages x 7 titles + 3 = 255 titles max)
* 255 scrollable titles in XMB (with "skip 10" button - as suggested by zoner for faster scrolling)
* Carousel styled menu (designed by Atak_Snajpera)
* Thumbnails for chapters/title backgrounds will be saved in output folder and adding titles to existing structure will take seconds instead of 20-30 mins.

Dean

Great. thanks man.:)

[deank]

As tests proved - max title count is 254.

I'm ready to release next build with full support of 254 titles in all modes (not Panasonic only).

I completely rewrote some code. Still classic/list and thumbnail menu type are restricted. XMB styled menu can have 254 scrollable titles (no 10+ skip button yet).

If you want to test the new version you'll need DAT update + build update or full download.

Dean

build 567+: Max title count is 252. Title editor will show 1-252 titles in 9 screens for title-name editing.

[herrde]

Hey Dean, can you check if something went wrong with the "Force subtitle track #1" option in the latest build? I've just done a full download and install of the latest build and just remuxed a new TV episode in AVCHD USB mode with subtitles using the "Force" option (as I do every second day...) - and the subtitles weren't forced, I had to enable them manually on the PS3...

Hmmm.

Best,

Gero

[deank]

Build 569

* Few bugs fixed
* Log output changed
* Warning if importing/processing more than 252 titles

***

I'll try to adapt the oldest menu (list/classic) to 28+ titles. I'm glad to say that my tests with 'backed-up' title backgrounds+chapters works fine and I'll add it in some of the next builds. It will affect only XMB-styled menu,

[nwg]

I tried another disc in the Samsung 1500 and still the same. I burned just the bdmv and no certificate folder.

I looked at the log only just noticed this bit "Error while creating top menu pages!" . The disc still works ok in the Sony 350.

So I downloaded the whole program and reinstalled avisynth again and this time no menu error. This is the second time something has gone wrong with the menu generation and a complete reinstall fixed it.

I won't know it works until I get access to the Samsung player again.

This is the old log.

[01:21:01] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.6 (build 569)

[01:21:01] Current output mode will include
[01:21:01] maximum of 252 titles.

[01:21:01] Processing 17 input files/folders.
[01:21:01] Temp folder does not exist. Set to F:\_TEMP.
[01:21:01] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[01:21:02] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00000.m2ts
[01:21:18] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:18] Processing playlist files...
[01:21:18] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:18] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[01:21:25] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:25] Processing playlist files...
[01:21:26] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:26] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00002.m2ts
[01:21:32] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:32] Processing playlist files...
[01:21:33] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:33] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00003.m2ts
[01:21:37] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:37] Processing playlist files...
[01:21:38] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:38] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00004.m2ts
[01:21:45] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:45] Processing playlist files...
[01:21:46] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:46] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00005.m2ts
[01:21:52] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:52] Processing playlist files...
[01:21:53] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:53] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00006.m2ts
[01:21:58] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:58] Processing playlist files...
[01:21:59] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:21:59] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00007.m2ts
[01:22:06] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:06] Processing playlist files...
[01:22:07] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:07] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00008.m2ts
[01:22:13] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:13] Processing playlist files...
[01:22:14] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:14] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00009.m2ts
[01:22:19] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:19] Processing playlist files...
[01:22:20] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:20] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00010.m2ts
[01:22:26] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:26] Processing playlist files...
[01:22:27] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:27] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00011.m2ts
[01:22:33] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:33] Processing playlist files...
[01:22:33] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:34] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00012.m2ts
[01:22:40] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:40] Processing playlist files...
[01:22:40] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:40] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00013.m2ts
[01:22:47] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:47] Processing playlist files...
[01:22:47] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:47] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00014.m2ts
[01:22:55] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:55] Processing playlist files...
[01:22:55] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:22:55] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00015.m2ts
[01:23:02] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:23:02] Processing playlist files...
[01:23:03] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:23:03] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00016.m2ts
[01:23:08] Setting vertical resolution value (1080p).
[01:23:08] Processing playlist files...
[01:23:09] Preparing authoring information...
[01:23:09] Creating PAL top menu.
[01:23:09] Authoring menu (PAL).
[01:23:10] Encoding menu pages (x264)...
[01:23:22] Muxing h264 stream for menu pages (tsMuxer)...
[01:23:36] Error while creating top menu pages!
[01:23:36] Encoding navigational pages (x264)...
[01:23:50] Setting menu navigation...
[01:23:54] Authoring custom menu completed.
[01:23:54] Setting menu for 17 titles...
[01:23:54] Setting menu properties...
[01:23:54] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[01:23:54] Completed.
[01:23:55] Done!
[01:23:55] 1 other warnings/errors!
[01:23:55] F:\Temp\AVCHD_1080p trailers folder created!
[01:23:55] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD-R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[01:23:55] Launching ImgBurn...
[01:24:16] Deleting only files in temp folder (F:\_TEMP\)...
[01:24:16] You may now remove temp folder (F:\_TEMP\).
[01:24:16] Your compilation contains 0hrs 37min 43sec of video material.
[01:24:16] End of log.

and this is the latest log.

[01:48:05] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.6 (build 569)

[01:48:05] Current output mode will include
[01:48:05] maximum of 252 titles.

[01:48:05] Processing 17 input files/folders.
[01:48:05] Temp folder does not exist. Set to F:\_TEMP.
[01:48:05] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[01:48:05] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:48:05] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:48:14] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00000.m2ts
[01:48:20] Processing playlist files...
[01:48:23] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:48:23] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:48:23] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[01:48:29] Processing playlist files...
[01:48:32] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:48:32] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:48:32] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00002.m2ts
[01:48:37] Processing playlist files...
[01:48:39] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:48:39] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:48:39] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00003.m2ts
[01:48:44] Processing playlist files...
[01:48:46] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:48:46] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:48:46] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00004.m2ts
[01:48:53] Processing playlist files...
[01:48:55] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:48:55] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:48:55] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00005.m2ts
[01:49:03] Processing playlist files...
[01:49:06] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:49:06] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:49:06] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00006.m2ts
[01:49:11] Processing playlist files...
[01:49:13] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:49:13] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:49:13] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00007.m2ts
[01:49:20] Processing playlist files...
[01:49:22] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:49:22] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:49:22] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00008.m2ts
[01:49:28] Processing playlist files...
[01:49:31] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:49:31] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:49:31] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00009.m2ts
[01:49:36] Processing playlist files...
[01:49:38] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:49:38] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:49:38] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00010.m2ts
[01:49:46] Processing playlist files...
[01:49:48] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:49:48] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:49:48] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00011.m2ts
[01:49:53] Processing playlist files...
[01:49:56] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:49:56] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:49:56] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00012.m2ts
[01:50:01] Processing playlist files...
[01:50:04] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:50:04] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:50:04] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00013.m2ts
[01:50:09] Processing playlist files...
[01:50:12] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:50:12] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:50:12] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00014.m2ts
[01:50:19] Processing playlist files...
[01:50:21] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:50:21] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:50:21] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00015.m2ts
[01:50:28] Processing playlist files...
[01:50:30] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[01:50:30] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[01:50:30] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00016.m2ts
[01:50:36] Processing playlist files...
[01:50:38] Preparing authoring information...
[01:50:38] Creating PAL top menu.
[01:50:46] Authoring menu (PAL).
[01:50:46] Encoding menu pages (x264)...
[01:51:02] Muxing h264 stream for menu pages (tsMuxer)...
[01:51:03] Populating menu structure...
[01:51:03] Encoding navigational pages (x264)...
[01:51:20] Setting menu navigation...
[01:51:24] Authoring custom menu completed.
[01:51:24] Setting menu for 17 titles...
[01:51:24] Setting menu properties...
[01:51:24] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[01:51:24] Completed.
[01:51:25] Done!
[01:51:25] F:\Temp\AVCHD_10809 trailers 3 folder created!
[01:51:25] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD-R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[01:51:25] Launching ImgBurn...
[01:51:35] Deleting only files in temp folder (F:\_TEMP\)...
[01:51:35] You may now remove temp folder (F:\_TEMP\).
[01:51:35] Your compilation contains 0hrs 37min 43sec of video material.
[01:51:35] End of log.

[deank]

I'm glad to say that build 570 is ready.

multiAVCHD.exe got smaller and faster, multiAVCHD.dat is half the size it was before.

* Classic (list) menu can now have 18 pages
* Thumbnail menu can have 36 pages
* Few bugfixes

[LEFT] [RIGHT] will move you through the pages for faster browsing. (only forward move in Classic menu)

Speed (without the time needed to convert titles to AVCHD)

252 titles are processed:

* in about 8 minutes if no menu is generated (only playlist processing)
* in about 10 minutes in Classic-menu mode and 18 menu pages are generated
* in about 14 minutes in Thumbnail-menu mode and 36 menu pages are generated
* in about 38 minutes in XMB-menu mode and 252 menu pages are generated (without chapter-thumbnails)

Space: 252 titles require about 130MB for menu pages.

All limits are now lifted. The only thing left is 12-chapter thumbnail restriction.

Next thing that will be changed are the thumbnails for XMB (saved for later use).

[fbimatrix]

Is there any way to configure to the image becomes better , because when I use from the pc is a bit better , is there any configuration that I can DO?
thankz

[deank]

Which image doesn't look good?

(and - no, there are no user configurable options).

[kenguru2005]

Is there any way to configure to the image becomes better , because when I use from the pc is a bit better , is there any configuration that I can DO?
thankz

Do you have fever?

[nwg]

What does version 001 and version 002 bdmv mean?

[deank]

A text identifier in the headers of bdmv/clpi/mpls files.
It is good to leave it to 001.

[nwg]

A text identifier in the headers of bdmv/clpi/mpls files.
It is good to leave it to 001.

OK, thanks.

[deank]

Here are my tests with the maximum supported title count and the latest (570) build:

Speed (without the time needed to convert titles to AVCHD)

252 titles are processed:

* in about 8 minutes if no menu is generated (only playlist processing)
* in about 10 minutes in Classic-menu mode and 18 menu pages are generated
* in about 14 minutes in Thumbnail-menu mode and 36 menu pages are generated
* in about 38 minutes in XMB-menu mode and 252 menu pages are generated (without chapter-thumbnails)

Space: 252 titles require about 130MB disc space for menu pages.

Dean

[deank]

A tiny-bit change in interface for Author tab:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_author.jpg

Playback sequence group now orders events more logically according to playback timeline.

Dean

[nwg]

I have noticed the speed increase with menu generation. It was about 3 times faster on my system.

It would be really good if it was possible to save projects and retain things like menu text from the editor.

[deank]

Few updates (you'll get them with multiUPDATE):

* Added MPL playlist import (for mts join mode)
* Fixed Panasonic compatible output if importing MPL/MPLS (chapters were present sometimes).

Be advised that MPL works only in tsMuxeR 1.10.3 but MPLS import is broken in 1.10.3. MPLS import works in 1.9.9.

I've seen some posts in some forums about problems with multiAVCHD - never change the version of tsMuxeR provided in multiAVCHD's tools folder!

Dean

[sparky909]

I know this comment relates a bit to the popBD issue i raised - but does the MPL/MPLS panasonic fix mean that the issue i raised with forcing a spanned disk in multiAVCHD by seperating the m2ts generated across 2 disks could now be resolved? Or is this something different.

Great to see so many fine features added to multiAVCHD.

[deank]

No, it is not related to your problem.

Did you update your *complete* multiAVCHD package with the latest popBD? If not (or not for a long time) I suggest you to download it now and try with your spanned discs.

I did few tests and all seems to be fine with popBD (if you not alter its output in any way).

Dean

[deank]

Build 571:

Output buttons replaced with "Start" and new pop-up window added:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_output.jpg

Author tab is changed again.
multiAVCHD.exe is getting smaller again.

These changes make things more intuitive with one final decision about output type.

You will have to remove/edit the language file (if you're using one).

Dean

[espero]

Hi dean,

I tried to import playlist mpl file from my camera and I got the following error:

[16:47:14] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.6 (build 571)

[16:47:14] Current output mode will include
[16:47:14] maximum of 252 titles.

[16:47:14] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[16:47:14] Temp folder does not exist. Set to c:\_TEMP.
[16:47:14] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[16:47:14] Converting PLAYLIST to BDMV (C:\TTTT\test\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.MPL).
[16:47:14] Error obtaining information! (tsMuxeR / 00000.MPL)...
[16:47:14] No valid information found! (00000.MPL)...
[16:47:14] Done!
[16:47:14] No compatible input from (C:\TTTT\test\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.MPL). Skipping it...
[16:47:14] No compatible folders/files processed...

Why tsMuxeR doesnt like playlist from my camera?
Peter

[deank]

Take a look just few posts up: #2589.

You'll need to have multiAVCHD "unpacked" in the root folder of a drive, for example D:\multiAVCHD and not use any special characters in folder names.

"Error obtaining info" means that multiAVCHD cannot launch tsMuxeR.

If all is okay you'll see 3 lines in BLUE in the LOG screen when you launch multiAVCHD:


[18:05:27] This multiAVCHD build uses:
[18:05:27] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.3 http://www.smlabs.net
[18:05:27] multiAVCHD.dat version: [02060570]

[espero]

Take a look just few posts up: #2589.

You'll need to have multiAVCHD "unpacked" in the root folder of a drive, for example D:\multiAVCHD and not use any special characters in folder names.

"Error obtaining info" means that multiAVCHD cannot launch tsMuxeR.

If all is okay you'll see 3 lines in BLUE in the LOG screen when you launch multiAVCHD:


[18:05:27] This multiAVCHD build uses:
[18:05:27] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.3 http://www.smlabs.net
[18:05:27] multiAVCHD.dat version: [02060570]


Thank you...
I dont uderstand why I have to put multiAVCHD in the root directory. I dont have any program in root... Will it change in next version of both programs?

[deank]

Just don't use non-ASCII symbols for your multiAVCHD folder path and not too many subfolders.

In MPL/mpls mode multiAVCHD calls tsmuxer via "cmd.exe" and it doesn't work with deep paths.

I have 1 instance of multiavchd in

D:\multiAVCHD\multiAVCHD.exe

and one on my desktop and the second one won't work with MPL files.

Just put the FOLDER "multiAVCHD" in the root folder, not the files.

***

tsMuxeR is updated to 10.4 and now both MPL and mpls playlist import works. Thanks to Roman. I suggest all to download the COMPLETE setup.

[nwg]

I got the same error. I have my multiavchd in program files and I also don't have any programs working from the root.

[deank]

This problem is now fixed in build 572.

Also Lumix AVCHD lite input is now recognized + few changes in start pop-up window.

MPL and mpls playlist import now work fine (if you have the full download or updated tsMuxeR to 1.10.4).

Dean

[espero]

Thanx:)
Now it works well, there is no need to put multiAVCHD in root.

But there is another problem... The audio of movie goes faster than video ca. 1.5 second and this delay increases with the time of movie... Is there some solution for that?

[deank]

Such async means audio/video FPS difference (or a problem @ the "glue" points"). I think tsdemux handles audio delays properly, but still - is there a chance to upload a structure and send me an email with a link?

I tried mpls import with over 20 mts files and there was no audio/video sync problems (I used tsmuxer's split mts in 1 mpls, canon camcoder input and HDC panasonic camcoder input).

**

When you process MPL/mpls don't use Panasonic output - just regular AVCHD for PS3 or for DVD. What output mode did you use and what player for testing?

[espero]

Such async means audio/video FPS difference (or a problem @ the "glue" points"). I think tsdemux handles audio delays properly, but still - is there a chance to upload a structure and send me an email with a link?

I tried mpls import with over 20 mts files and there was no audio/video sync problems.

What should be included in this upload? Every mts has 15-20 MB and after importing mpl there is no possibility to choose i. e. two or three mts... I have no idea how to do this upload :(
My camera is PAL 25fps.

The delay occurs just after FIRST scene and increases slightly with further scenes...

[deank]

Try with only first 2 mts files + the rest of the structure. If delays occur between mts1 and mts2 these 2 files will be sufficient.

Dean

[espero]

Try with only first 2 mts files + the rest of the structure. If delays occur between mts1 and mts2 these 2 files will be sufficient.

Dean

I understand but how to do this? multiAVCHD joins all 800 mts's and if I cancel the operation - there is only joined mts in temp folder - there is no another files...

[deank]

I PM'd you.

[phate89]

deank it's not possible to add to multiavchd which force the play of the first subtitle only if is the default track flag of the mkv? in my opinion it's really useful..

[nwg]

The disc worked with that Samsung BDP 1500. It was a faulty install of the program files after all.

[IvanR]

Is it possible to make non-16:9 movies playable like this? Do you have any ideas? :)

[deank]

deank it's not possible to add to multiavchd which force the play of the first subtitle only if is the default track flag of the mkv? in my opinion it's really useful..

I don't think that mediainfo reports which is the 'default' track, so I have no way of knowing.

The disc worked with that Samsung BDP 1500.

:) Great!

Is it possible to make non-16:9 movies playable like this?

4:3 is supported, too, but only in 720x480 and 720x576. No other aspect ratios can be used in AVCHD and Blu-ray.

Dean

[IvanR]

I need avchd only for subtitles...

So, there's no way to play cropped non 16:9 (1920*1050 for example) with subtitles on ps3 (without reencoding)?

[deank]

I don't know - give it a try. I have no files in such weird resolutions.

[IvanR]

Some people crop black bars to save space i guess :)

[coolalibaba]

I need avchd only for subtitles...

So, there's no way to play cropped non 16:9 (1920*1050 for example) with subtitles on ps3 (without reencoding)?
I believe both MultiAVCHD and TsMuxer can do this now if the cropped video width is greater than 584. of coz with black bar at the bottom.

[IvanR]

I believe both MultiAVCHD and TsMuxer can do this now if the cropped video width is greater than 584. of coz with black bar at the bottom.

hm, that must be new....thanx!

[deank]

Build 574:

* Another speed improvement with playlist files processing + a small fix for AVCHD index file.

* As promised - thumbnails for menu backgrounds and chapters are now saved in HDAVCTN folder in the output compilation.

The folder will not be re-/created if:

* you're creating output for Panasonic
* the compilation has no menu
* Classic/list menu type is used

Importing titles in existing compilations now takes over 10 times less time. The increased speed will cost you some disc space of course.

Files in HDAVCTN folder use the following naming convention:

MMMMM-TTTCCC.jpg

where:

MMMMM is the mts/m2ts file used for thumbnail extraction,
TTT is the title number and
CCC is the chapter number for the generated thumbnail.

MMMMM-TTT000.jpg is the image used for main thumbnail (for title#TTT) in XMB and Thumbnail menu (also used for background blending in XMB).

I hope you will like this new feature! It takes much less time now and if you decide to convert XMB to Thumnail menu or vice versa, multiAVCHD will do it really fast.

* If any of these files are missing, multiAVCHD will recreate them.

* If you change (replace) any of these files, multiAVCHD will use them in the next compilation.

For example, changing XXXXX-001000.jpg with a poster image of your choice, will make multiAVCHD to show it for title#1 (16:9 aspect ratio is forced).

I did a test with a previous XMB compilation I was regularly creating (20 titles / ~20 hours video content) - it was taking about 30mins before - and now it takes just 4. :D

Dean

[espero]

Hi dean,

I have another problem with files from my camcorder. I write here - maybe someone has the same problem. My movie do not fit SL bluray disc. It has about 30GB of data. As you know I import mpls with all 800 shots.
Is it possible to make some option to split movie to 2 or more discs? The best deal for me is 25GB on AVCHD bluray and about 5 GB on AHCHD DVD.
As you know - mpls imports all mts and there is no way to chose mts or split anything to more than one disc.

Peter

PS
My previous problems with audio synchronization after mts joining are solved! ffdshow which plays AVCHD files on my computer was lagging video. Please be carefull with this!

[deank]

What you're asking is a function of popBD (you have it in your multiAVCHD folder if you downloaded the complete setup).

Your option is to let multiAVCHD do its work (with no split options in muxer tab) and then use popBD to split the ouput to 2 BD-R/RE discs.

Dean

[fbimatrix]

I was complaing that the quality of the image is not perfect as running on pc , I see small squares when the image changes too fast , I dont know if is any configuration to increase the quality of the conversion?

[deank]

Then play it in your PC, not with 'whatever-player-you-are-using-which-has-these-annoying-blocks-when-scenes-change-too-fast'.

multiAVCHD does not convert your video if you somehow didn't notice.

[espero]

What you're asking is a function of popBD (you have it in your multiAVCHD folder if you downloaded the complete setup).

Your option is to let multiAVCHD do its work (with no split options in muxer tab) and then use popBD to split the ouput to 2 BD-R/RE discs.

Dean

When multiAVCHD finishes its work I get: few very big mts and whole folder structure together with cpi, mpl, bdm files.
Then I should import to popBD - which file? I have few of them. And then what? again authoring with multiAVCHD? I am afraid I dont understand :(

[adenilson1505]

I am trying generate AVHCD for Viera TV, but the TV show message No Files when choice Video Files from de SD Card. I download a ISO file from Panasonic Camcoder and this file run in Viera TV, but AVCHD generated with multiAVCHD not running.

From ISO:
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> AVCHDTN
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> BDMV
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> IISVPL
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\AVCHDTN
26/06/2008 18:44 16.384 THUMB.TDT
26/06/2008 18:44 84 THUMB.TID
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> CLIPINF
26/06/2008 18:44 526 INDEX.BDM
26/06/2008 18:44 82 MOVIEOBJ.BDM
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> PLAYLIST
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> STREAM
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF
26/06/2008 18:44 622 00000.CPI
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST
26/06/2008 18:44 1.742 00000.MPL
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM
26/06/2008 18:44 38.989.824 00000.MTS
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\IISVPL
26/06/2008 18:44 672 00000.VPL



From multiAVCHD of file 00000.MTS of ISO
C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD
11/05/2009 19:05 <DIR> AVCHDTN
11/05/2009 19:05 <DIR> BDMV
C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\AVCHDTN
11/05/2009 19:05 32.768 THUMB.TDT
11/05/2009 19:05 96 THUMB.TID
C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV
11/05/2009 19:05 <DIR> BACKUP
11/05/2009 19:05 <DIR> CLIPINF
11/05/2009 19:05 <DIR> PLAYLIST
11/05/2009 19:05 <DIR> STREAM
11/05/2009 19:05 526 INDEX.BDM
11/05/2009 19:05 82 MOVIEOBJ.BDM
C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV\BACKUP
11/05/2009 19:05 <DIR> CLIPINF
11/05/2009 19:05 <DIR> PLAYLIST
11/05/2009 19:05 526 INDEX.BDM
11/05/2009 19:05 82 MOVIEOBJ.BDM
C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV\BACKUP\CLIPINF
11/05/2009 19:05 622 00000.CPI
C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST
11/05/2009 19:05 590 00000.MPL
C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF
11/05/2009 19:05 622 00000.CPI
C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST
11/05/2009 19:05 590 00000.MPL
C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM
11/05/2009 19:05 38.940.672 00000.MTS

[fbimatrix]

Then play it in your PC, not with 'whatever-player-you-are-using-which-has-these-annoying-blocks-when-scenes-change-too-fast'.

multiAVCHD does not convert your video if you somehow didn't notice.
Sorry , but I was just wondering if that was some better configuration , but the program is very good , thankz for the work.

[SeeMoreDigital]

I download a ISO file from Panasonic Camcoder and this file run in Viera TV, but AVCHD generated with multiAVCHD not running.Hi Ade, welcome to the forum.

What do you mean by "ISO" file? What you need are the .MTS files, which can be found if you go to the PRIVATE -> AVCHD -> BDMV -> STREAM folders....


Cheers

[odin24]

This is the first time for me that a compilation requires forced subs (.sup) on one of the two movies (movie #2). I kept force subs option enabled... sorry to doubt your app, but will the subs be forced? I usually enable them myself using BDEdit.

I'm just being cautious, I don't want to make a coaster out of one of my discs.

Thanks.

[adenilson1505]

Hi Ade, welcome to the forum.

What do you mean by "ISO" file? What you need are the .MTS files, which can be found if you go to the PRIVATE -> AVCHD -> BDMV -> STREAM folders....


Cheers

Thanks! I have one file ISO and when I mount the ISO file the following folders are generateds:
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> AVCHDTN
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> BDMV
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> IISVPL
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\AVCHDTN
26/06/2008 18:44 16.384 THUMB.TDT
26/06/2008 18:44 84 THUMB.TID
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> CLIPINF
26/06/2008 18:44 526 INDEX.BDM
26/06/2008 18:44 82 MOVIEOBJ.BDM
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> PLAYLIST
26/06/2008 18:44 <DIR> STREAM
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\CLIPINF
26/06/2008 18:44 622 00000.CPI
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\PLAYLIST
26/06/2008 18:44 1.742 00000.MPL
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM
26/06/2008 18:44 38.989.824 00000.MTS
x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\IISVPL
26/06/2008 18:44 672 00000.VPL

If I copy the PRIVATE folder for SD Card and connect in the Viera TV, the AVCHD is played. But if I generate the AVCHD folder with multiAVCHD (adding video file 00000.MTS of x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM) the TV not play.

I am brazilian and not speak english very well.

[drpaulng]

Sorry , but I was just wondering if that was some better configuration , but the program is very good , thankz for the work.

Dean simply means that multiAVCHD does not change any thing with the move.m2ts. It is the player that plays these movies differently. For example, PowerDVD plays better than TotalMedia Theatre for the same movie wrapped in blu-ray format. You can play these movie.m2ts files through PS3 via blu-ray format (AVCHD) or, if you like, burn them as data disc and play them as individual movie.m2ts files without navigation menu. A PIONEER or LG BD Player may play better than PS3 if you compare carefully. Your case is, the movie.m2ts is not well-handled in blu-ray format but OK with individual file. It depends on your player, not multiAVCHD.

[deank]

When multiAVCHD finishes its work I get: few very big mts and whole folder structure together with cpi, mpl, bdm files.
Then I should import to popBD - which file? I have few of them. And then what? again authoring with multiAVCHD? I am afraid I dont understand :(

Load a MTS file and select the split point.
If you have 2-3 mts files - repeat this with all of them.
Make sure you're using different folder names.

[deank]

A small update (574+):

If you're importing files (MKV/MPG/MTS/MOV...etc) and have:

my_vacation_video.mkv
my_vacation_video.jpg

the image (jpg) will be used as main thumbnail for the title. :) It is better to have it in 16:9 - if not - multiAVCHD will stretch it anyway (to 1920x1080 and 344x194).

Dean

[SeeMoreDigital]

But if I generate the AVCHD folder with multiAVCHD (adding video file 00000.MTS of x:\PRIVATE\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM) the TV not play.You're correct, it will not play!

You can't add the "00000.MTS" stream separately. You have to let multiAVCHD generate all the folders and files, including the 00000.MTS video stream.

[deank]

This is the first time for me that a compilation requires forced subs (.sup) on one of the two movies (movie #2). I kept force subs option enabled... sorry to doubt your app, but will the subs be forced? I usually enable them myself using BDEdit.

I'm just being cautious, I don't want to make a coaster out of one of my discs.

Yes, subtitles will be forced if you have [x] Force subtitle track#1 option checked.

Setstream $c001 command is in Movie object #256.

[drelin]

A small update (574+):

If you're importing files (MKV/MPG/MTS/MOV...etc) and have:

my_vacation_video.mkv
my_vacation_video.jpg

the image (jpg) will be used as main thumbnail for the title. :) It is better to have it in 16:9 - if not - multiAVCHD will stretch it anyway (to 1920x1080 and 344x194).

Dean

Hello,

I've just try the new update (574+) with the custom thumbnail import and I found a bug after compilation.

If I create AVCHD with some titles (3 trailers for my test), multiAVCHD create in "HDAVCTN" folder the thumbnails with custom jpeg image but only the first tilte display correctly the custom thumbnail.
The other titles display thumbnail automaticly created by multiavchd process.

In "HDAVCTN" folder the jpeg created are (for 3 titles movies):
00000-001000.jpg (custom image for 1st title) used correctly
00001-001000.jpg (custom image for 2sd title) not used
00001-002000.jpg (automatic thumbnail created for 2sd title) used but not wanted
00002-001000.jpg (custom image for 3th tilte) not used
00002-003000.jpg automatic thumbnail created for 3th title) used but not wanted

[drpaulng]

Hello,

I've just try the new update (574+) with the custom thumbnail import and I found a bug after compilation.

If I create AVCHD with some titles (3 trailers for my test), multiAVCHD create in "HDAVCTN" folder the thumbnails with custom jpeg image but only the first tilte display correctly the custom thumbnail.
The other titles display thumbnail automaticly created by multiavchd process.

In "HDAVCTN" folder the jpeg created are (for 3 titles movies):
00000-001000.jpg (custom image for 1st title) used correctly
00001-001000.jpg (custom image for 2sd title) not used
00001-002000.jpg (automatic thumbnail created for 2sd title) used but not wanted
00002-001000.jpg (custom image for 3th tilte) not used
00002-003000.jpg automatic thumbnail created for 3th title) used but not wanted

uncheck XMB options\Create chapter thumbnails

No chapter thumbnail will be automatically created.

[deank]

Can you update with multiUPDATE.exe and try again?

It is fixed now. Title number was not properly set in thumbnail name (always 001).

@drpaulng: it wasn't related to the chapters - they're named -001001.jpg to -001012.jpg for title#1 for example.

[drpaulng]

Yes, I never even tried out build 574+. I just misunderstood the problem. Sorry!:D My fault.

[deank]

I'm adding "Welcome screen" configuration+preview buttons in Author tab.

It will let users choose:

1) Background image
2) Audio file (AC3)
3) Duration (1-30sec)
4) 2 lines for welcome messages and 1 line for time/date (can be configured to show or not)

I'll probably remove the predefined "blue-hills" welcome screen :)... I'll miss it :)

[drelin]

Can you update with multiUPDATE.exe and try again?

It is fixed now. Title number was not properly set in thumbnail name (always 001).

@drpaulng: it wasn't related to the chapters - they're named -001001.jpg to -001012.jpg for title#1 for example.

It's work fine with fix version.
Thank a lot
Good idea for the welcom Screen.

[deank]

Build 575:

A bit more control to the user for creating the welcome screen:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiavchd_author.jpg

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiavchd_wse.jpg

Three sliders define the vertical placement of the text.

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiavchd_ws.jpg

Dean

edit: A small update in 575+: you can now have a welcome screen even when no menu is created.

[golemik]

Hi Deank
Mayby now is good moment for background audio in XMBmenu?

[deank]

Build 577:

Sorry folks, but you'll have to update your multiAVCHD.dat file. It is now just 3MB and the full download size is decreased to ~13MB.

Dean

p.s. There was a small bug in 576, causing welcome screen to play twice when creating a menu.

[odin24]

Yes, subtitles will be forced if you have [x] Force subtitle track#1 option checked.

Setstream $c001 command is in Movie object #256.

Thanks for the reply, I see what you are saying... confirmed via BDEdit.

Thanks again.

[jsffm]

Hi,

what is the best way to bring DVDs as original as possible to Blueray with multiAVCHD?

I tried following:

MakeMKV (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MakeMKV) Chapterinformation will be lost. Language-ID of Audiofiles partly lost.

PgcDemux (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/PgcDemux) Chapterinformation will be stored in wrong format, but most programs I know uses this format (Celltimes.txt stored in seconds). Identify of Subtitles (sup-format) is difficult, a program is needed.

Any Ideas?

[adenilson1505]

You're correct, it will not play!

You can't add the "00000.MTS" stream separately. You have to let multiAVCHD generate all the folders and files, including the 00000.MTS video stream.

Ok, but I don't play the file separetely. I am generate a AVCHD folders, using multiAVCHD, of file 00000.MTS and this AVCHD my TV not play.

[nwg]

Hi,

what is the best way to bring DVDs as original as possible to Blueray with multiAVCHD?

I tried following:

MakeMKV (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MakeMKV) Chapterinformation will be lost. Language-ID of Audiofiles partly lost.

PgcDemux (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/PgcDemux) Chapterinformation will be stored in wrong format, but most programs I know uses this format (Celltimes.txt stored in seconds). Identify of Subtitles (sup-format) is difficult, a program is needed.

Any Ideas?

Ripbot can turn DVD's into movie only Blu Rays. Multiavchd can then be used to put more than one onto one disc with a new menu.

[jsffm]

Ripbot can turn DVD's into movie only Blu Rays. Multiavchd can then be used to put more than one onto one disc with a new menu.

Thanks for this hint.

[jsffm]

Ripbot can turn DVD's into movie only Blu Rays. Multiavchd can then be used to put more than one onto one disc with a new menu.

I think this is not what I´m looking for. It is an encoder, I need a demuxer. It can read only one vob-file, not the whole film. Maybe I didn´t understand the program.

[schlaufer]

VobEdit can be used to demultiplex the files, also to split the streams by cell if needed.
IfoEdit can give you the chapter and language information.
SubRip can turn the demultiplexed subtitles into text format via OCR.

You will have to shuffle around files and do some manual interaction though.

[deank]

Build 577+:

2 options in Settings:

[x] Prompt to import playlists
[x] Prompt to import Welcome Screens

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_settings.jpg

1st option allows you to disable the pop-up question when importing folders.

2nd option allows you to choose whether to import a welcome screen from the imported folder. If you decide to keep the original welcome screen - multiAVCHD will not generate one, but will use the imported instead.

Dean

[jsffm]

VobEdit can be used to demultiplex the files, also to split the streams by cell if needed.
IfoEdit can give you the chapter and language information.
SubRip can turn the demultiplexed subtitles into text format via OCR.

You will have to shuffle around files and do some manual interaction though.

Hi,

thanks for the answer, I can try this in the evening, but as I know this programs they also use for chapters celltimes.txt which is not supportet by multiAVCHD.

My problem is not to bring one DVD in AVCHD-Format, I have to convert a lot of DVDs, so I´m looking for a most comfortable method.

Maybe I have to write a script or small program to bring celltimes.txt in the correct format.

[deank]

If you send me a sample of how celltimes look - i can make multiAVCHD support the format.

Are celltimes in frames format?

1000 (40th second in 25fps video for chapter 1?)
2000
3000
4000
etc...

Also, do you (or anyone else) know if celltimes use 30fps for (29.970) and 24 for (23.976)?

[jsffm]

If you send me a sample of how celltimes look - i can make multiAVCHD support the format.

Are celltimes in frames format?

1000 (40th second in 25fps video for chapter 1?)
2000
3000
4000
etc...

Also, do you (or anyone else) know if celltimes use 30fps for (29.970) and 24 for (23.976)?

It is frames format, PAL = 25.

[jsffm]

http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/ifoedit-celltimes-txt-help-t149243.html

[deank]

Okay... it is added.

multiAVCHD will recognize celltime format in external chapter files (i.e. movie-video.mpg + movie-video.txt).

Dean

p.s. I asked about the fps because when you have RFF flags in mpeg video for pull-down, etc... celltime->time calculation is different.

Just try with your video files and let me know how it worked.

[jsffm]

Okay... it is added.

multiAVCHD will recognize celltime format in external chapter files (i.e. movie-video.mpg + movie-video.txt).

Dean

Just try with your video files and let me know how it worked.

That´s great!

I will test this in the evening.

[deank]

Because these weeks multiAVCHD it's getting better and better :) I decided to add one-click DVD import functionality.

You can see in the log that it took about 7 minutes to convert my Savage Garden DVD to AVCHD (only the main concert without the extras) ;) Of course you can select ALL IFO files from your VIDEO_TS folder (without VIDEO_TS.IFO of course) and you'll get almost a full copy of your DVD with the extras - I just tried it and it worked.

multiAVCHD uses IfoUpdate.exe (by jdobbs (http://www.jdobbs.com/Pages/Downloads.htm)) to extract chapters and mplayer to extract audio and video from the selected IFO playlist.

Now my XMB menu shows 12 chapters pointing to the first 12 songs.

At this time it supports AC3 audio (first track only) and no subtitles. But I'll find a way to extract all audio tracks and probably subtitles.

You'll need either full download or download ifoupdate.exe (http://www.jdobbs.com/Pages/Downloads.htm) and save it in your tools folder.


[15:36:25] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.6 (build 578)

[15:36:25] Current output mode will include
[15:36:25] maximum of 252 titles.

[15:36:25] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[15:36:25] Converting file to BDMV (D:\__TEST\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO).
[15:36:25] Pre-processing DVD IFO file...
[15:36:25] Step 1/3: Extracting chapters
[15:36:25] Step 2/3: Extracting audio
[15:37:53] Step 3/3: Extracting video
[15:40:01] Completed!
[15:40:02] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG-2 720x576, fps=25.000
[15:40:02] Detected display AR: 1024x576 (AR:1.78)
[15:40:02] Total of 1 tracks found in this file.
[15:40:02] Adding audiofile (dvddump.ac3)
[15:40:02] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[15:40:02] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[15:40:02] Checking for external chapters (d:\_temp\dvddump.txt)...
[15:40:02] Using external chapters...
[15:40:02] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[15:42:23] Done!
[15:42:23] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[15:42:23] Processing playlist files...
[15:42:25] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:06:19.679;00:10:00.479;00:15:45.599;00:21:09.119;00:24:44.160;...
[15:42:25] Preparing authoring information...
[15:42:25] Creating PAL top menu.
[15:42:25] Authoring menu (PAL).
[15:42:27] Creating menu backgrounds for 1 titles (XMB)...
[15:42:27] Trying to use Directshow first...
[15:42:54] Creating video backgrounds for XMB menu completed.
[15:43:01] Authoring custom menu completed.
[15:43:01] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[15:43:01] STOP command after title #1 inserted.
[15:43:01] Setting menu properties...
[15:43:01] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[15:43:01] Completed.
[15:43:01] Renaming files to FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[15:43:01] Done!
[15:43:03] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_SG DVD folder created!
[15:43:03] Rename D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_SG DVD to AVCHD and copy it to root of USB drive or USB disk.
[15:43:03] Deleting only files in temp folder (D:\_TEMP\)...
[15:43:03] You may now remove temp folder (D:\_TEMP\).
[15:43:03] Your compilation contains 1hrs 21min 0sec of video material.
[15:43:03] End of log.


:D Now, how cool is this!

[jsffm]

I´m wonderung how fast you implement the wishes of your "customers" ;-) :-)

This is a great program and everyday it will get more powerfull.

[idbirch2]

Nice work Dean, well done.

[jsffm]

Okay... it is added.

multiAVCHD will recognize celltime format in external chapter files (i.e. movie-video.mpg + movie-video.txt).

Dean

Just try with your video files and let me know how it worked.

I tried this and got attached error.

[jsffm]

I tried import of DVD (IFO-File) and checked the generated m2ts file with ffmpeg and got following report:

[mpeg2video @ 015724F0]ac-tex damaged at 9 7
[mpeg2video @ 015724F0]Warning MVs not available
[mpeg2video @ 015724F0]concealing 1305 DC, 1305 AC, 1305 MV errors
Input #0, mpegts, from '00000.m2ts':
Duration: 01:30:04.00, start: 600.000000, bitrate: 4824 kb/s
Program 1
Stream #0.0[0x1011]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x576 [PAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 2994 kb/s, 25.00 tb(r)
Stream #0.1[0x1100](und): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 384 kb/s

Playback with vlc worked fine.

[deank]

I can't see your attached error and I don't understand your second post. Is it working or not?

I'm fixing some issues and adding support for DVD VIDEO_TS folder (with multiple titles).

Dean

[jsffm]

I can't see your attached error

(RT) Invalid array index(2), Valid range (1-1) - Line 1820.

I don't understand your second post. Is it working or not?

I wonderd about the message from ffmpeg. As I wrote I tested only playback with VLC and that worked.

[deank]

The error you're getting is about SRT subtitles and not related to chapters at all. Check if you have ssa/srt subtitles in the same folder. I fixed it but it will be available in the next update.

Test with AVCHD/Blu-ray player, not with file-playback programs.

[jsffm]

The error you're getting is about SRT subtitles and not related to chapters at all. Check if you have ssa/srt subtitles in the same folder. I fixed it but it will be available in the next update.


There are 4 .sup files in the folder.

[Roonie]

@ Deank

First wanna say GREAT programme !!! I also love the uncropMKV tool ....!! Now, is it possible to link to the 2 .... ??? Say have an option in multiAVCHD to use the uncropMKV
tool so that it can uncrop and then put the uncropped MKV automaticly in the avcdhd/blu-ray file structure ??? That way you would have one programe doing the work of 2 ??

Anyway keep up the good work..... And hopefully more poeple will support you......... :)

Ronald,

[zoner]

all i want to say that this ability of dvd to avchd is BRILLIANT, thank you :)

[deank]

Build 579:

I just added the option to import DVD folders (VIDEO_TS.IFO is used to accept/identify an imported folder with any name).

It will import all PGS/CELL/VOBs with their chapters and title splits.

Later I'll add multiple audio support.

Once roman is ready with DVD subs -> Blu-ray SUP subtitle support - I'll add it to multiAVCHD.

Dean :)

p.s. I just successfully "backed up" 2 DVD discs using "DVD folder import" and they just play great. Both discs are concert/audio DVDs so there may be some glitches @ "title" jumps, which I cannot really see, but it is a start.

After all - it is an easy way to backup a DVD to an AVCHD or Blu-ray format. It will take just 10-20 mins to back-up a DVD disc to play in Playstation3 or in your Panasonic TV or any Blu-ray player.

The full (DVD folder) import of my Savage Garden DVD took 14 minutes with the whole concert + all commentary titles + song clips + selected concert scenes :)

@zoner: thumbs-up!


http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_dvd.jpg


@Roonie: I'd rather keep them separated. multiAVCHD will never re-/encode video and I'd like to keep it that way.

[deank]

I successfully converted a DVD with subtitles:

* mencoder required to extract idx/sub DVD subtitles
* BDSup2Sub.jar required for DVD->BD subtitle conversion
* java required for BDSup2Sub.jar

Dean

[deank]

Build 580:

DVD subtitles (1 stream) is now supported if you import DVD folders (tomorrow I'll add the same for IFO import and may be multiple subtitles+audio tracks)


Dean

[Aai em ron]

Build 580:

DVD subtitles (1 stream) is now supported if you import DVD folders (tomorrow I'll add the same for IFO import and may be multiple subtitles+audio tracks)


Dean

Damn, that's really great man. Thanks a lot.

[SeeMoreDigital]

With regard to extracting "subtitles" from DVD VOB files, here's some information that may be useful: -Subtitles (in .VOB) files extracted using EVOdemux (.SUP) can be muxed with Muxman but are rejected by TSmuxer GUI

Subtitles (in .VOB) extracted using TSremux (.SUP) can be muxed with TSmuxer but are rejected by MuxMan


Cheers

[Kurtnoise]

@SMD: if you want to extract subtitles from VOB files properly, use DVDSubEdit...

[deank]

Don't worry about the subtitles. I'll put version 2.7.581 in few minutes. If anyone can test - it will be great.

Especially if SMD can test a DVD with Panasonic Viera output and check if it will play.

[deank]

Version 2.7 (Build 581): (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download.php)

This release features DVD to AVCHD / Blu-ray conversion.

DVD import features:

* Support for multiple subtitle tracks
* Support for multiple audio tracks
* Import modes:

1) Folder import (add/drag-drop VIDEO_TS folder)
2) Playlist import (add/drag-drop VTS_*.IFO files)

If you import individual IFO files and multiAVCHD detects more than one PGC in it it will prompt you whether you want to add ALL PGCs as separate titles or to use the biggest one.

I'll be glad to receive some feed back, because I don't have many DVD titles to test with and I've never been into DVDs at all and it's my first time to deal with all these CELL/VOB/PGC and IDX/SUB stuff.

Dean

[desray]

Wow long time no see deank! Although less posts these days but that also meant things are getting better by the minute and less bugs to 'squash' :P
So any timeline for the carousel menu to be implemented? Looking forward for that...

[deank]

Build 582: (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download.php)

* Fix for DVD IFO import (messed titles when importing PGCs not from the first IFO)
* DVD Folder import fix --//--
* Added 20 language tags for DVD -> AVCHD/Blu-ray audio/subtitles lang-ids.

Dean

[Aai em ron]

I've tested 3 different dvd's with multiple subtitle tracks, but each time the program says: No Subtitles found.
I tried with Video_Ts import as well as VIDEO_TS.ifo import.
I played the movies on PS3 and there were no subtitle tracks available.
I can send you the log files if you want?
Thanks.

[deank]

Yes, send me the log. For subtitles to work (to be converted) you need to have JAVA installed.

VIDEO_TS.IFO is not supported nor imported by multiAVCHD. What build did you test with?

Except the subtitles, was everything else fine? (a lot of fixes were made in build 582)

[Aai em ron]

Yes, send me the log. For subtitles to work (to be converted) you need to have JAVA installed.

VIDEO_TS.IFO is not supported nor imported by multiAVCHD. What build did you test with?

Except the subtitles, was everything else fine? (a lot of fixes were made in build 582)

Yes, I have Java Installed and I use the latest build. 582
I send you the Log. Thanks

[deank]

I tested with one DVD with subtitles, 2 with multiple audio tracks and all was fine.

I just found an old movie DVD I got with my Playstation3 which has subtitles and I'm testing with it now.

You can post your log here (or email/PM it). You didn't mention if there were any errors in the process of converting, nor if the final AVCHD had all titles.

I forgot to mention that you need FULL DOWNLOAD (because it includes mencoder.exe, ifoupdate.exe and bdsup2sub.jar). Without these it won't work, no matter what build you're using.

***

1) Your logs show that MPLAYER is not functioning at all. I hope you have it in TOOLS folder and it's the version supplied with multiAVCHD.
2) Try not to use such long paths for your input files. After you check 1), do a test with VIDEO_TS folder placed near the root of your drive.

Dean

[deank]

I added a warning in the log for such cases. Update with multiUPDATE.exe after you check what I posted above.

[tkamp]

I'm getting an error everytime multiAVCHD is about to convert the idx/sub files.

I tried BDsup2sub with the mplayer exported idx/sub, and I get an error "Invalid Control Buffer..."

If I use VobSub to extract the idx/sub there are no errors in BDsup2sub.

Also when you open idx in a notepad they are different?!?

Any solution for this?

[Aai em ron]

I tested with one DVD with subtitles, 2 with multiple audio tracks and all was fine.

I just found an old movie DVD I got with my Playstation3 which has subtitles and I'm testing with it now.

You can post your log here (or email/PM it). You didn't mention if there were any errors in the process of converting, nor if the final AVCHD had all titles.

I forgot to mention that you need FULL DOWNLOAD (because it includes mencoder.exe, ifoupdate.exe and bdsup2sub.jar). Without these it won't work, no matter what build you're using.

***


1) Your logs show that MPLAYER is not functioning at all. I hope you have it in TOOLS folder and it's the version supplied with multiAVCHD.
2) Try not to use such long paths for your input files. After you check 1), do a test with VIDEO_TS folder placed near the root of your drive.

Dean

Yes,I did a full download. I never had problems with mplayer before. (No problems with Mkv or BluRay files) .I did put the VIDEO_TS Folder in the root of my drive.
Unfortunally I got the same result.
I don't know what's the problem. :(

[deank]

I tried BDsup2sub with the mplayer exported idx/sub, and I get an error "Invalid Control Buffer..."


Subtitles are exported with mencoder, not mplayer.

Can you update your multiAVCHD now (with multiUPDATE.exe) and try again? It could be related to insufficient memory for the java sandbox.

**

In build 583 I fixed a problem with extracting subtitles if path contains spaces and increased java memory to 256mb as suggested by bdsup2sub author.

[jsffm]

First test of DVD-Folders with Build 581:

2 DVDs, first one no errors, second one some java error messages, but 3 of 4 subtitles were ok. Maybe a problem with the fourth subtitle, which had the same LID as one of the others. Both DVDs worked fine on my BD-Player.

Second test with Build 582 is in this moment writing to BD-R. There are some videos with elementary streams and celltimes.txt and one DVD-Folder which had 2 mp2-audiofiles and one ac3-file. Your program did ignore the mp2-files, that´s ok. Better would be transcoding them to ac3.

I will report later when writing is finished.

After that I will repeat first test with Build 583.

[deank]

There is a problem with some subtitle streams which bdsup2sub cannot process:

Decoding frame 11/1037 at offset 0x0000a800
Decoding frame 12/1037 at offset 0x0000b800
Decoding frame 13/1037 at offset 0x0000c800
Decoding frame 14/1037 at offset 0x0000d800
Decoding frame 15/1037 at offset 0x0000e800
Decoding frame 16/1037 at offset 0x0000f800
Decoding frame 17/1037 at offset 0x00010800
ERROR: Corrupt buffer offset information

And output contains only the first 17 subtitles. I'll send a message to the author of the program. After all he posted that it is experimental (I think).

@jsffm: mp2 -> ac3 leads to audio sync problems. I have no DVDs with mp2 audio to perform some tests. I need the output of mplayer -identify with such VIDEO_TS of .IFO.

Dean

[jsffm]

@jsffm: mp2 -> ac3 leads to audio sync problems. I have no DVDs with mp2 audio to perform some tests. I need the output of mplayer -identify with such VIDEO_TS of .IFO.

Dean

Most of my DVDs are recordings from TV, there is always a audiotrack with mp2. Is there a 2. track with ac3 the mp2-track can be ignored, but sometimes there is original language as third track in mp2 and this is importand.

You will get the output of "mplayer -identify".

[deank]

You'll need something like:


mplayer -frames 0 -identify g:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO > info.txt

and send me info.txt contents.

In fact I need the lines saying something like:


audio stream: 0 format: ac3 (5.1) language: en aid: 128.



discard the above... I googled, so I found

format: ac3
format: dts
format: lpcm
format: mpeg1

I'll try to implement mpeg1 (mp2) to ac3 conversion based on the settings in Audio/Subtitles tab. The same goes for DTS.

I think I'll just add ac3, dts and lpcm in pass-thru mode (no converting) and will convert mpeg1 with eac3to. Still I have no idea if audio will be in sync so you'll have to do a test and report back.

Dean

[jsffm]

I transcode mp2 to ac3 with eac3to and had never a problem with synchronization. mp2-tracks has mostly 192 kb/s and I use the same for ac3.

I dont´t see a reason for transcoding dts.

Second test is done, The video importet from DVD-Folder is ok.

But I have a problem with the two videos with chapters importet from celltimes.txt, they start with the second chapter and I miss the beginning of the video. Celltimes.txt doesn´t start with 0 or 1.

Test 3 with Build 583 is running.

[SeeMoreDigital]

@SMD: if you want to extract subtitles from VOB files properly, use DVDSubEdit...Thanks Kurt.... However, I have been unsuccessful in getting the extracted .sup streams to work with TSmuxer :(

[deank]

Build 584:

DVD import:

* DTS, LPCM and AC3 audio tracks are processed without any re-encoding and MPEG audio is encoded with eac3to
* Fixed a problem with chapters, not having 00:00:00 as a first jump point
* Added warnings if importing files, whose pathnames contain dash sign "-". DVD import will not work (because of ifoupdate) if the dash sign is present anywhere in the path to your IFO files.

Dean

[rc111]

Dean,

Would it be possible to add support for AAC audio with TS files? I am using the Hauppauge HD PVR to record, but the audio is AAC and there is no other choice. I tried your program with the TS files created by the PVR, and it did a great job with the video (burned 3 files of about 7 to 8GB each without overflowing the disc) but I got the "AAC audio not supported" and no audio on the disc.

I've tried some other software and nothing else seems to work very well. Most of the programs I tried, like the PowerProducer software that came with my LG Blu-ray burner, will re-encode the video so that the output is about 3 times the size of the original file, which negates any advantage to using Blu-ray (in addition to the problem of no audio). The Total Media Extreme software that comes with the Hauppauge PVR does a great job with standard DVDs, but the most I can get on a DL disk is about 8GB, and the bundled version doesn't support burning to Blu-ray discs. When I tried burning with either Power Producer or Nero, an 8GB file TS was expanded to about 20GB, in addition to the problem of no audio.

If your MultiAVCHD program could be modified to support AAC in TS files, it would be a much better program than any of the retail software I've seen. Or if you have any other suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated.

[jfcarbel]

Version 2.7 (Build 581): (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download.php)

This release features DVD to AVCHD / Blu-ray conversion.
Dean

What bitrate is the DVD reencoded with to H.264?

[jsffm]

What bitrate is the DVD reencoded with to H.264?

There is no reencode.

[deank]

Would it be possible to add support for AAC audio with TS files?

I thought I added AAC audio conversion... but I must have missed it :) (it is just for mp4/mkv files). Yes, I'll add the support later today.

What bitrate is the DVD reencoded with to H.264?

DVD titles are already in Blu-ray compliant format (except those with mpeg audio) so multiAVCHD simply demuxes all video+audio+subtitles and muxes them back into AVCHD/Blu-ray structure without any reencoding.

Dean

[elijah.baley]

@ rc111

As a matter of fact, the HDPVR can encode in AC3 in 2 channels for analog input and 5.1 channels for digital. Take a look at the software you are using (TMT, SageTV, EyeTV...) and change the input accordingly. For capturing AC3 through optical input you might need to update the firmware of your HDPVR.

[deank]

Build 585+

* FULL DOWNLOAD (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download.php)for updated mencoder and BDSup2Sub! Many thanks to the author of BDSup2Sub (0xdeadbeef) who updated the program to handle some badly demuxed/authored DVD subtitles.

* Support for up to 32 subtitle and 32 audio tracks for all input modes/files
* Added AAC->AC3 for m2ts/ts/etc files
* Added extended information for bdsup2sub subtitle conversion


If all goes okay with dvd subtitles it will look like this:


[12:56:32] Converting file to BDMV (G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO).
[12:56:32] Pre-processing DVD playlist file (G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO)...
[12:56:32] *** Extracting chapters (ifoupdate)...
[12:56:32] *** Screening for audio and subtitles...
[12:56:35] *** Subtitles: 720x480 29.970 SID#000 (bul)...
[12:56:35] *** Extracting subtitles ID#000 (mencoder)...
[12:57:26] *** Converting DVD subtitles to Blu-ray format (java:BDSup2Sub)...
[12:57:34] *** Imported subpictures: 277/277
[12:57:34] *** Extracting audio (mplayer)...
[12:57:34] *** Extracting ac3 track #128 (eng)...
[12:58:41] *** Extracting video (mplayer)...


if not:


[13:06:37] Converting file to BDMV (DVD (01-01-01) D:\__TEST\DVD\).
[13:06:37] Pre-processing DVD disc folder (D:\Downloads\__TEST\DVD\)...
[13:06:37] *** Extracting chapters (ifoupdate)...
[13:06:37] *** Screening for audio and subtitles...
[13:06:40] *** Subtitles: 720x576 25.000 SID#000 (bul)...
[13:06:40] *** Extracting subtitles ID#000 (mencoder)...
[13:08:52] *** Converting DVD subtitles to Blu-ray format (java:BDSup2Sub)...
[13:08:59] !!! BDSup2Sub reported: 287 warnings!
[13:08:59] !!! Last imported subpicture: 17/1037
[13:08:59] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[13:08:59] *** Extracting audio (mplayer)...
[13:08:59] *** Extracting ac3 track #128 (bul)...



Dean

[strad]

Hello Dean,
first of all: your continuous devotion for corrections in the program is absolutely stunning and everybody must be very, very grateful. Thank you!
Now, my feedback here actually refers to the subtitle matter only:
since 2 days I had several attempts (IFO in/BluRay/BDMV out) with your last versions, which partly failed, due to subtitle problems and maybe to my computer, but I think, the kind of movie and subtitle structure matters too.
Example:
tonight I managed (with v.584) to burn a BD-RE with two films, one by the way showed subtitles, the other not, though the conversion went smoothly without any error message!

Right now, with v.585 and two additional films, movie 1, with v.584 completely OK, shows:

[13:02:03] *** Converting DVD subtitles to Blu-ray format (java:BDSup2Sub)...
[13:02:17] !!! BDSup2Sub reported: 1 warnings!
[13:02:17] !!! Last imported subpicture: 1113/1113
[13:02:17] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[13:02:17] *** Imported subpictures: 1113/1113
[13:02:17] *** Subtitles: 720x576 25.000 SID#003 (deu)...
[13:02:17] *** Extracting subtitles ID#003 (mencoder)...
[13:03:06] *** Converting DVD subtitles to Blu-ray format (java:BDSup2Sub)...
[13:03:08] *** Imported subpictures: 5/5
[13:03:08] *** Extracting audio (mplayer)...
[13:03:08] *** Extracting ac3 track #128 (deu)...
[13:03:58] *** Extracting ac3 track #130 (eng)...
[13:04:49] *** Extracting video (mplayer)...
[13:06:23] Pre-processing completed!

The next film:
[13:09:04] *** Extracting subtitles ID#001 (mencoder)...
[13:10:06] *** Converting DVD subtitles to Blu-ray format (java:BDSup2Sub)...
[13:10:09] !!! BDSup2Sub reported: 4 warnings!
[13:10:09] !!! Last imported subpicture:
[13:10:09] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[13:10:09] !!! Error converting subtitles! (java?) (Java is OK!)
[13:10:09] *** Extracting audio (mplayer)...
[13:10:09] *** Extracting ac3 track #128 (deu)...
[13:11:09] *** Extracting ac3 track #130 (eng)...
[13:12:11] *** Extracting video (mplayer)...
[13:13:50] Pre-processing completed!

now on movie 3 it´s working since 1 hour:
*** Extracting subtitles ID#001 (mencoder)...

What do you think of that?
I pray, that it at least finishes.....

greetings from strad

P.S.: still got stuck (since 75 min.) !!!

[strad]

So the question is:
if I import the "problem movies" via DVD folder instead via IFO, will it work for those, like skip the subtitles (I forget about them)?

[deank]

The first one looks fine (warnings are nothing to worry about since all subtitles are exported).

The second shows that BDsup2sub has a problem and cannot convert these subpictures.

Please make sure you have the LATEST FULL download (I updated it just 30mins ago) - it contains the new mencoder and bdsup2sub.

Let's hope that the third one will be fine... but it is taking too much time (one hour?!).

Please check what is your mencoder version in tools folder (via command prompt).

*** Were these tests with IFO or folder mode? If IFO files contain only one title it won't make a difference I think but you can test and import the FOLDER... then remove some titles if you wish.

*** Also - use taskmanager to KILL mencoder process.

Dean

edit: can you also post the lines from the log with "[13:02:17] *** Subtitles: 720x576 25.000 SID#003 (deu)..."...

[strad]

I think I have to abort, it doesn´t finish.
But actually it´s a pity, that then the program shuts down and don´t keep the files.

Sorry, didn´t read your remarks before....

I always used IFO import and only left one subtitle in order to avoid any problem....

Thanks for the suggestion: killed memcoder and it goes on!

here the full log-excerpt for that movie:

[13:01:13] *** Extracting chapters (ifoupdate)...
[13:01:13] *** Screening for audio and subtitles...
[13:01:15] *** Subtitles: 720x576 25.000 SID#001 (deu)...
[13:01:15] *** Extracting subtitles ID#001 (mencoder)...
[13:02:03] *** Converting DVD subtitles to Blu-ray format (java:BDSup2Sub)...
[13:02:17] !!! BDSup2Sub reported: 1 warnings!
[13:02:17] !!! Last imported subpicture: 1113/1113
[13:02:17] !!! Subtitles may be incomplete!
[13:02:17] *** Imported subpictures: 1113/1113
[13:02:17] *** Subtitles: 720x576 25.000 SID#003 (deu)...
[13:02:17] *** Extracting subtitles ID#003 (mencoder)...
[13:03:06] *** Converting DVD subtitles to Blu-ray format (java:BDSup2Sub)...
[13:03:08] *** Imported subpictures: 5/5
[13:03:08] *** Extracting audio (mplayer)...
[13:03:08] *** Extracting ac3 track #128 (deu)...
[13:03:58] *** Extracting ac3 track #130 (eng)...
[13:04:49] *** Extracting video (mplayer)...
[13:06:23] Pre-processing completed!
[13:06:23] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG-2 720x576, fps=25.000
[13:06:24] Detected display AR: 1024x576 (AR:1.78)
[13:06:24] Total of 1 tracks found in this file.
[13:06:24] Adding subtitles (dvddump.1.deu.sup) (deu)
[13:06:24] Adding subtitles (dvddump.2.deu.sup) (deu)
[13:06:24] AR of 16:9 will be set for this title.
[13:06:24] Adding audiofile (dvddump.128.deu.ac3)
[13:06:24] Adding audiofile (dvddump.130.eng.ac3)
[13:06:24] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[13:06:24] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[13:06:24] Checking for external chapters (e:\temp\dvddump.txt)...
[13:06:24] Using external chapters...
[13:06:24] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[13:08:58] Done!
[13:08:58] "Move transitional files" option will be applied!
[13:08:58] Input folder is multiAVCHD compilation and its contents will be moved.
[13:08:58] Setting vertical resolution value (576i).
[13:08:58] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[13:08:58] Media transfer: 00001 -> 00001.m2ts
[13:08:58] Processing playlist files...
[13:09:00] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:00:00.000;00:07:04.799;00:12:29.880;00:18:03.359;00:25:47.800;00:31:41.199;00:35:14.760;00:41:35.639;00:51:07.959;00:59:34.879;01:06:02.959;01:15:29.080;01:21:05.359;01:24:50.359;
[13:09:02] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00.000;00:00:00.000;00:07:04.799;00:12:29.880;00:18:03.359;00:25:47.800;00:31:41.199;00:35:14.760;00:41:35.639;00:51:07.959;00:59:34.879;01:06:02.959;01:15:29.080;01:21:05.359;01:24:50.359;

[strad]

and:
is it in that consense of any use to activate "Change first SRT line timing"?

[deank]

This one looks okay...

I just fixed the problem of having 00:00:00.000 chapter mark twice. You can use multiUPDATE.exe to update the version you have.

Also you didn't say if you have the complete download from this afternoon.

*** I don't understand your question about SRT subtitles.

[strad]

Before I had the full download and right now the update!

*** I don't understand your question about SRT subtitles.
you implemented this and the time lining must make a difference to set or not, but which?

[deank]

It is for SRT (text subtitles) and has nothing to do with DVD/BD sup subtitles.

If you had the FULL download from before - download it NOW. The update (of the exe) won't help you. Just try to follow some directions here.

Dean

*** the latest .exe update now has the "ABORT" button almost working :) it will abort compilation successfully in 99% of the cases.

[strad]

at 16:10 I made the full download again and now started with one of those movies, which memcoder couldn´t deal with. Let see what happens this time....

...nothing better: stopped again at extracting the only subtitle, so I guess it has more to do with this subtitle than with your program!

With certain movies at the moment I have to leave subtitles....

So far: thank you Dean!

strad

[deank]

Build 586:

* Some fixes with chapter marks
* LPCM audio in DVD imported files/discs will always be converted to AC3. Sorry about that but at this point it seems that basic extraction of LPCM doesn't work, so multiAVCHD uses eac3to to convert it (and it now works if your DVD has LPCM audio). Also - without significant loss of quality you'll gain space!

Dean

@strad: Please give it a try with another DVD... As I posted yesterday - DVD import is just for testing purposes, although I managed to convert 4-5 DVDs without problems (with subtitles or not).

[turbojet]

DVD import is an interesting concept. I tried 1 DVD successfully so far except one thing, bdsup2sub.jar couldn't start.

I'm using Vista 64 and pretty sure the problem is it's trying to call 64 bit javaw.exe (C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin) from a 32 bit application. I don't know if you want to look into fixing this or not especially with tsmuxer currently working on a solution that doesn't rely on java calls. But if you do with vista 64 and xp 64 you can get 32 bit install path from HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\Applications\javaw.exe\shell\open\command in the registry and for 32 bit os I'm pretty sure it's HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\javaw.exe\shell\open\command

[golemik]

Hi Deank
Thanks for this soft.

I make my family disc with menu -january, february, march ..., but in one month i have for example 4 files - first i must in TsMuxer - append it in one file (title) for every month.
Can you add checkbox for titles - "Add thumbnail to menu" - in Tab Editor?
When I will be play it sequential -it will be all right, only will be problem with thumbnails for chapters in title.
Regards.

[deank]

DVD import is an interesting concept. I tried 1 DVD successfully so far except one thing, bdsup2sub.jar couldn't start.

I'm using "java -jar bdsup2sub.jar" to launch it.. nothing special about it... If you find a way to launch it (via command line) in your environment - let me know and I'll add it.

I make my family disc with menu ... but in one month i have for example 4 files - first i must in TsMuxer - append it in one file (title) for every month.
Can you add checkbox for titles - "Add thumbnail to menu" - in Tab Editor?

I'm not really sure if I understand what you're asking.

***

I found some weird problems adding mpeg audio (thanks to JS), which I'll fix tomorrow.

[turbojet]

I'm using "java -jar bdsup2sub.jar" to launch it.. nothing special about it... If you find a way to launch it (via command line) in your environment - let me know and I'll add it.


Ya this is the problem then as default command interpreter is 64 bit in 64 bit OS. Working call for my environment from a 32-bit app would be: "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe -jar b2sup2sub.jar".

But since java can be installed anywhere and C:\ isn't always system drive its much safer to query HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\Applications\javaw.exe\shell\open\command and use that path. If its 32 bit OS it won't find anything and it should continue to use 'java -jar'.

[deank]

Does it work from the command prompt?

C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe -jar b2sup2sub.jar

or better

javaw.exe -jar b2sup2sub.jar

I don't have time (nor resources with current app-creation "calcit" environment) to deal with registry and stuff.

[turbojet]

They both start BDSup2Sub in 64 bit mode but neither will work from a 32 bit app.

Best to just wait for tsmuxer I guess

[deank]

Well... multiAVCHD is true win32 bit application... I can't test it in 64bit environment... and I guess most users will have to deal with it. It it's java only - then the only thing that won't work will be dvd-subtitles-import... all other things work fine.

[deank]

Build 587

DVD audio and DVD subtitle detection is completely rewritten in this build and now all should work okay.

Dean

[cgp-2k9]

Hi deank

I just thought I'll write a thank you for this great up you created.

I have been following it since you gave birth to it, sort of speak, and it has grown to be a great application.

I have one suggestion, only if it's possible, can there be an option for custom thumbnail for the XMB styled menu, but only for the preview of the movie title, so instead of showing a preview of the movie clip you can just add a 3D cover art preview of the movie in .png format so it can keep the transparency background and shadows.

So if you have multiple movies in on a disk it will show the movie cover preview and next to it will show the chapter previews as normal thumbnails as they are fine the way they are.

Once again, thanks for this great application. This app is worth donating to.

cgp2k9

[johns0]

Hi deank,great program you made,i got one problem i have had for the last few builds,when i finish making an avchd folder and burn/test it i get no thumbnails or bg,just an update homepage with 3 icon markers which i can select to start an episode.

I tried v2.5 and it made the correct type of menu,i then got the latest update to try again and got this message-[18:35:28] x264/AviSynth output unexpectedly small or missing!
[18:35:28] Custom menu navigation may not work as expected.
Had the same non menu page.I have the latest avisynth 2.58 and x264 codec installed.

I read about the other thread with nwg and i can encode with uncropmkv and can encode with cce using avisynth.

[strad]

You try v.2.5 when there is version 2.7 Build 587 with many changes and corrections?

[johns0]

Version 2.7 Build 587 gives me the x264/AviSynth output unexpectedly small or missing! error message in the log and there is no thumbnails or bg but when i select xmb styled or
non thumbnail menu then i get the xmb styled thumbnails and text only menus.

I just wanted to test with v2.5 to see if i got the thumbnail menu without any errors and it worked.

[deank]

Version 2.7 Build 587 gives me the x264/AviSynth output unexpectedly small or missing! error message in the log and there is no thumbnails or bg but when i select xmb styled or
non thumbnail menu then i get the xmb styled thumbnails and text only menus.

I just wanted to test with v2.5 to see if i got the thumbnail menu without any errors and it worked.

1) Download the complete setup!
2) There is a slider in Menu tab - FRAMES TO ENCODE - try to change it to middle position and check if it will work. Experiment with different slider positions.

Dean

[johns0]

I downloaded the latest build again and tried every slider setting plus other settings but still get that error,thing is i like the xmb styled menu much better and it gives me the thumbnails so i'm happy with that.

I've been fixing software problems for customers for years so i now that certain computers can sometimes act up with programs,glad i donated.:)

[desray]

Hi deank, just like to let you know that the clip details using XMB style for the most part didn't show the correct audio track info. For instance, I have a clip which featured DTS-ES6.1 track but it shows DTS 5.1...of course there's no problem with the clip. Just to let you know...I understand that there's some bug or error in reporting when you use mediainfo or was it mkvinfo (or the other way round) - but the error in clip info still remain.

[rendez2k]

Version 2.7 Build 587 gives me the x264/AviSynth output unexpectedly small or missing! error message in the log and there is no thumbnails or bg but when i select xmb styled or
non thumbnail menu then i get the xmb styled thumbnails and text only menus.

I just wanted to test with v2.5 to see if i got the thumbnail menu without any errors and it worked.

Same issue here too... Just running a few tests of my own now.

Edit: Clean install. Still getting errors. Changed the frames to encode slider to a few different values also.

[11:08:24] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 587)

[11:08:24] Current output mode will include
[11:08:24] maximum of 252 titles.

[11:08:24] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[11:08:24] Temp folder does not exist. Set to E:\_TEMP.
[11:08:24] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[11:08:24] Converting to BDMV structure (E:\Extract\TV\doctor.who.2005.s04.special.planet.of.the.dead.720p.hdtv-bia\doctor.who.2005.s04.special.planet.of.the.dead.720p.hdtv.x264-bia.mkv).
[11:08:25] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:9).
[11:08:25] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1280x720, fps=25.000, ref=3
[11:08:25] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3 (48000Hz 6ch) Language: eng
[11:08:25] Added audio: A_AC3, "E:\Extract\TV\doctor.who.2005.s04.special.planet.of.the.dead.720p.hdtv-bia\doctor.who.2005.s04.special.planet.of.the.dead.720p.hdtv.x264-bia.mkv", track=2, lang=eng
[11:08:25] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[11:09:19] Done!
[11:09:19] Processing playlist files...
[11:09:20] Preparing authoring information...
[11:09:20] Creating PAL top menu.
[11:09:20] Authoring menu (PAL).
[11:09:21] Creating video thumbnails for 1 titles (THM)...
[11:09:22] Creating video thumbnails completed.
[11:09:25] x264/AviSynth output unexpectedly small or missing!
[11:09:25] Custom menu navigation may not work as expected.
[11:09:25] Setting menu navigation...
[11:09:25] Authoring custom menu completed.
[11:09:25] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[11:09:25] Completed.
[11:09:25] Done!
[11:09:25] 1 other warnings/errors!
[11:09:25] E:\Temp\AVCHD folder created!
[11:09:25] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD-R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[11:09:25] Launching ImgBurn...
[11:09:34] Deleting only files in temp folder (E:\_TEMP\)...
[11:09:34] You may now remove temp folder (E:\_TEMP\).

[deank]

I downloaded the latest build again and tried every slider setting plus other settings but still get that error,thing is i like the xmb styled menu much better and it gives me the thumbnails so i'm happy with that.

I've been fixing software problems for customers for years so i now that certain computers can sometimes act up with programs,glad i donated.:)

Sorry about that... It is fixed in build 588 - just update... The problem was with a wrong "move file" command instead of "copy file" for creating HDAVCTN thumbnails :)

Thanks for pointing it out - I was also getting the error - just had no time to test everything.

Hi deank, just like to let you know that the clip details using XMB style for the most part didn't show the correct audio track info.

For the MOST part?

@rendez2k: Thanks for testing. Please remove your log from the the post.

Dean


******

Build 588:

* Fixed a problem with "Thumbnail menu"
* Fix for DTS to AC3 conversion.
* Added Support for MPEG audio (mp2) tracks in named after the video. They will be converted to AC3 on the fly (i.e. movie.m2v + movie.mp2).

[drelin]

After few test with 588 build, the loop playback after the last title mvoie not works (with quit on last title finish option unchecked).
On AVCHD with menu after last title playback the player return on menu.
On AVCHD with menu after last title playback the player stop.

[deank]

On AVCHD with menu after last title playback the player return on menu.
On AVCHD with menu after last title playback the player stop.

Which one is true?

It is supposed to work like that:

* When QUIT is not selected:

1) With menu - last title finishes -> go to menu
2) Without menu - last title finishes -> quit/stop.


* When QUIT is selected:

1) With menu - last title finishes -> quit/stop
2) Without menu - last title finishes -> quit/stop.

Dean

[drelin]

Yes is exactly the problem with or without Quit option the result is the same.

with menu => reurn to the last page of menu
without menu => stop.

I need loop playback existing with previous version.

[deank]

Update to 589.

Build 589:

* Fixed forced Quit/Stop if no menu is used
* Completely rewritten DVD IFO/Folder import
* Full information about DVD titles (#'s and duration) on load
* Calculation of total DVD duration
* Display of largest title in a DVD input
* Fixed IFO import with selecting the largest title
* Fixed MP2->AC3 conversion - existing AC3 track (if present) gets overwritten by the newly converted MP2

Dean

A note from Ai_em_ron:

Congratulations, built 588 works fine for me.

I think I also know what my problem was. I work with windows 7 64bit version, and I always got java errors.
I saw there is a 64 bit Java version so I downloaded and installed that, and all problems were gone.

I tested 2 different VIDEO_TS folders and they both worked on the PS3. With multiple audio and subtitle tracks.

So thanks a lot so far.

Maybe Java 64 bit is a tip for other users?

590: Fixed: missing title names in Editor tab / Added 3x3 preview placeholders when you click titlename in editor tab (no preview yet)
590: If you get any errors in editor tab: use multiUPDATE.exe

[deank]

Here is a small preview of what's going to happen when you click on a title name in editor tab:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_tpreview.jpg

[shv]

Seams that the folder name is not more taken over to the editor tab as title name when I select mpls files :(

[deank]

Build 591:

* Preview button in Editor tab after you click to edit title name - available only for DVD and FILE media - it won't work if you have old AVCHD or Blu-ray playlists imported.
* Preview will show 3x3 (9 thumbnails) extracted from the whole video (DVD playlist/title)
* DVD import now fully supported
* Full download is updated with the latest BDSup2Sub.jar (3.6.0) (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277)

Dean

@shv: It is fixed in 591.

[johns0]

One minor thing i noticed in the latest build is when you select to move the files up or down in the media tab.


Then multiavchd goes to the left corner.

[desray]

Thanks for pointing it out - I was also getting the error - just had no time to test everything.

For the MOST part?

Dean


******



For clips that have 6.1 (Matrix Channels) or 7.1 (Discrete Channels), the clip info only showed AC5.1 or DTS5.1 when it should have been Dolby Digital EX or DTS-ES so on and forth...

[deank]

One minor thing i noticed in the latest build is when you select to move the files up or down in the media tab.


Then multiavchd goes to the left corner.

Sorry... use multiUPDATE - it will fix it.

[johns0]

Thanks,hope more people will send donations to you.:)

[rc111]

Dean, the log file is now showing it's encoding the audio as AC3, but I'm still not getting any audio when I play the output files.

[06:16:53] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 591)



[06:16:56] Track has 2 channels.
[06:16:56] Trying to encode AAC audio to AC3...
[06:16:56] Encoding (ffmpeg)...
[06:16:57] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[06:16:57] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.

Am I doing something wrong?

[rc111]

@ rc111

As a matter of fact, the HDPVR can encode in AC3 in 2 channels for analog input and 5.1 channels for digital. Take a look at the software you are using (TMT, SageTV, EyeTV...) and change the input accordingly. For capturing AC3 through optical input you might need to update the firmware of your HDPVR.

I'm using the bundled Total Media Extreme to capture. The choices for audio input are "RCA Back" (current setting), "RCA Front", and SPDIF. Doesn't SPDIF require a separate cable (not included with the PVR)? Even if I did that, it wouldn't help with all the recordings I've already made.

[deank]

Dean, the log file is now showing it's encoding the audio as AC3, but I'm still not getting any audio when I play the output files.


How do you play your output files?

You can't get the sound if you're playing directly the M2TS/MTS files. You need to play the whole AVCHD structure with AVCHD/Blu-ray player.

If you have TMT - drag the BDMV folder to it to initiate playback.

[strad]

a few days ago I reported about convert-problems with subtitles from imported VIDEO_TS folders on HDD, ripped from original DVD with 2 language files and 1 german subtitle. The program always got stuck with a certain title while MENCODER tried to extract the subtitle (CPU always at 60%). After 1 hour I had to abort. With version 591 no difference!
Since I wanted this film in the compilation of 5 movies I tried out as follows and it worked:
with Subrip extracted the subtitle from each film, added it to the imported (joined) VOB´s in TsmuxeR and exported all as m2TS.
These files loaded in multiAVCHD made no problem anymore except 2 errors with Directshow and Mplayer, but only concerning thumbnails in title 3 (see attachments). After closing that message it went on and the final result on BD-RE 25 is completely OK (with subtitles!).

Dean, could you say, what causes those messages?

And another thing: sometimes after closing multiAVCHD and starting again I get the attached message, but taskmanager doesn´t show that process, and also had it even after restarting the computer. Any idea to that?
By the way: the editor preview is GREAT!

strad

[zrdb]

Dean-this a very unique and useful program-but I have a question. This is the logfile from a conversion that I tried. Evidently tsmuxer doesn't like the files-but here's the odd thing-I tried the same files before and they converted perfectly-I'm thinking that when I tried to update the program something got botched. Any ideas? Thanks.

11:12:04] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 581)

[11:12:04] Current output mode will include
[11:12:04] maximum of 252 titles.

[11:12:04] Processing 2 input files/folders.
[11:12:04] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[11:12:04] Converting to BDMV structure (U:\Aria The Natural 1-26\Aria The Natural 01.mkv).
[11:12:05] Detected frame reference count: 8 (max:16).
[11:12:05] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 712x480, fps=29.970, ref=8
[11:12:05] Detected subtitles: ID#3:S_TEXT/ASS Language: eng
[11:12:05] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3 (48000Hz 2ch) Language: jap
[11:12:05] Added audio: A_AC3, "U:\Aria The Natural 1-26\Aria The Natural 01.mkv", track=2, lang=jap
[11:12:05] Extracting SSA subtitle tracks.
[11:12:05] Plase wait - it may take a while!
[11:12:09] Converting to SRT...
[11:12:09] Converting U:\Aria The Natural 1-26\Aria The Natural 01.eng.tid_3.ssa to SRT...
[11:12:10] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[11:12:10] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[11:12:10] Adding subtitles (Aria The Natural 01.eng.tid_3.srt) (und)
[11:12:10] Inserting 5 min chapters...
[11:12:10] Detected frame reference count: 8 (max:16).
[11:12:10] Compliant with L4.1 for 712x480p
[11:12:10] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[11:12:10] Done!
[11:12:10] Important files missing (clpi/mpls/m2ts)...
[11:12:10] Possible tsMuxer failure to process your input file (U:\Aria The Natural 1-26\Aria The Natural 01.mkv).
[11:12:10] M2TS (media) file count: 1
[11:12:10] CLPI (clipinfo) file count: 0
[11:12:10] MPLS (playlist) file count: 0
[11:12:10] Processing playlist files...
[11:12:10] Converting to BDMV structure (U:\Aria The Natural 1-26\Aria The Natural 02.mkv).
[11:12:11] Detected frame reference count: 8 (max:16).
[11:12:11] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 712x480, fps=29.970, ref=8
[11:12:11] Detected subtitles: ID#3:S_TEXT/ASS Language: eng
[11:12:11] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3 (48000Hz 2ch) Language: jap
[11:12:11] Added audio: A_AC3, "U:\Aria The Natural 1-26\Aria The Natural 02.mkv", track=2, lang=jap, timeshift=16ms
[11:12:11] Extracting SSA subtitle tracks.
[11:12:11] Plase wait - it may take a while!
[11:12:18] Converting to SRT...
[11:12:18] Converting U:\Aria The Natural 1-26\Aria The Natural 02.eng.tid_3.ssa to SRT...
[11:12:18] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[11:12:18] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[11:12:18] Adding subtitles (Aria The Natural 02.eng.tid_3.srt) (und)
[11:12:19] Inserting 5 min chapters...
[11:12:19] Detected frame reference count: 8 (max:16).
[11:12:19] Compliant with L4.1 for 712x480p
[11:12:19] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[11:12:20] Done!
[11:12:20] Important files missing (clpi/mpls/m2ts)...
[11:12:20] Possible tsMuxer failure to process your input file (U:\Aria The Natural 1-26\Aria The Natural 02.mkv).
[11:12:20] M2TS (media) file count: 1
[11:12:20] CLPI (clipinfo) file count: 0
[11:12:20] MPLS (playlist) file count: 0
[11:12:20] Processing playlist files...
[11:12:20] Preparing authoring information...
[11:12:20] Creating NTSC top menu.
[11:12:20] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[11:12:20] Encoding navigational pages...
[11:12:26] Setting menu navigation...
[11:12:26] Authoring custom menu completed.
[11:12:26] Setting menu for 0 titles...
[11:12:26] Setting menu properties...
[11:12:26] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[11:12:26] Completed.
[11:12:27] Done!
[11:12:27] 2 other warnings/errors!
[11:12:27] T:\AVCHD_ARIA THE NATURAL folder created!
[11:12:27] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD-R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[11:12:27] Launching ImgBurn...

[kenguru2005]

This programm get´s more and more important for me as tsmuxer meanwhile has broken with my HDV mov files as thy are nor more accepted. Last working version was 1.9.9 ... and now the only way to process my footage is multiAVCHD. But I fear that it also will break with my footage as it has tsmuxer integrated.

[strad]

last version is 1.10.6, included now in multiAVCHD!

[kenguru2005]

last version is 1.10.6, included now in multiAVCHD!

Yes I know ... and it processes my footage :)

I just don´t understand why tsmuxer 1.10.6 "standalone" doesn´t except my media anymore.

[deank]

And another thing: sometimes after closing multiAVCHD and starting again I get the attached message

There is a small file multiAVCHD.pid in multiAVCHD folder. If it exists (and you have [x] Warn if another instance is running) you'll get the warning. You can disable the option in Settings.

About your DVD title hanging - I'd ask you to wait and try with the next build. If the problem persists - I'd be glad to get a sample of your DVD folder... If there is another way to extract DVD subtitles IN CLI application - let me know - I'll implement it.

You can also open task manager and kill mencoder. multiAVCHD will continue forward.

Evidently tsmuxer doesn't like the files-but here's the odd thing-I tried the same files before and they converted perfectly

[11:12:05] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 712x480,

I'm not sure if any player will play such resolution (712x...).

This programm get´s more and more important for me ... and now the only way to process my footage is multiAVCHD. But I fear that it also will break with my footage as it has tsmuxer integrated.

Don't worry. multiAVCHD doesn't use MOV features of tsMuxeR. In fact, as many of you think how hard multiAVCHD is dependent on tsMuxeR - it is the case and it is not. multiAVCHD has a completely different approach on feeding stuff to tsMuxeR so I doubt anything will ever go wrong (unless tsmuxer stops processing files at all :) ). multiAVCHD does not rely on tsMuxeR's ability to detect input files/types but forces it to accept what's written in the .meta file - hence multiAVCHD can process a lot more files, which tsMuxeR can't (or couldn't until recently). I also forgot to mention that I added (DVD) VOB and (DVR) TRP file support.


You have my skype - so just drop a note if you're worried about anything.

Dean

p.s. I'm preparing a new build that will offer completely rewritten way of importing AVCHD/BDMV folders and playlists. All will be available for edit/rearrange/remove in media tab. Preview (for titles) will work also for all kind of media (including playlists and imported AVCHD/BDMV titles). DVD support is also rewritten without the use of IFOUPDATE. DVD titles with no chapters get new ones...etc... a lot of things I prepared this afternoon... Will post it later.

[strad]

@zrdb
I'm thinking that when I tried to update the program something got botched.
you should download the full version (now 2.7 build 591), might solve the problem. The "Tools" folder becomes updated from time to time!

[deank]

I tried the same files before and they converted perfectly

11:12:04] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 581)

[11:12:05] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 712x480, fps=29.970, ref=8
[11:12:05] Detected subtitles: ID#3:S_TEXT/ASS Language: eng
[11:12:05] Extracting SSA subtitle tracks.
[11:12:05] Plase wait - it may take a while!
[11:12:09] Converting to SRT...
[11:12:09] Converting U:\Aria The Natural 1-26\Aria The Natural 01.eng.tid_3.ssa to SRT...


1st your build is kind of old


I found the problem. It will be fixed in next build later tonight.

[strad]

thank you Dean!
multiAVCHD.pid doesn´t exist, but I disabled the warning in "Settings".
Killing memcoder leads to loss of that subtitle.
How can I submit the folder (4.2GB)?

What do you think about the thumbnail problem with DirectShow and MPlayer ("Directshow splitter/Encoder failed")? This obviously only has to do with just 3 chapter thumnails.

[rc111]

How do you play your output files?

You can't get the sound if you're playing directly the M2TS/MTS files. You need to play the whole AVCHD structure with AVCHD/Blu-ray player.

If you have TMT - drag the BDMV folder to it to initiate playback.

Thanks, I tried your suggestion of dropping the BDMV folder into TMT, but still no audio. I also tried playing the disc in my PS3. The video looks great, but no audio.

[deank]

I'll test with AAC audio again later... it works here.

[deank]

Build 600:

* DVD VOB support
* DVR TRP support
* Preview (3x3) for all media (including imported playlists)
* Bugfixes ("tsmuxer didn't like..." errors)
* Rewritten DVD chapters / titles import
* Imported DVD titles without chapters will get auto-generated chapter marks
* IfoUpdate.exe is no longer used for DVD import
* AVCHD/BDMV editor (on load) is removed
* Major revision of how imported PLAYLISTS are handled:

You will now see each title in MEDIA TAB (as a separate MPL/MPLS file). You can use UP/DOWN/DEL/VIEW/EDIT for all items in media tab. Removing titles will remove them from the list, not from your drive.

New IDs for media in MEDIA TAB:

[f] - File or MPL/MPLS playlist for m2ts join mode
[d] - DVD title
[m] - multiAVCHD playlist (no m2ts join)
[p] - Imported playlist (no m2ts join)

The difference between [m] and [p] is that [m]/multiAVCHD playlists and their media will be MOVED to your destination folder and [p] will be moved only if [x] Move ([x] all) is enabled.

[f] for MPL/MPLS means that playlist contents will be processed in m2ts join mode.

A lot of other new things in this release but it is late now so I'll leave the details for tomorrow.

If anyone experience some weird behavior from multiAVCHD - let me know.

I hope you'll like this release.

Dean

[HDBytes]

Had an Issue with Build 591. Some M2TS files would play fine an others would cause the PS3 to play part way through then crash out of the disk with Illegal Disk error. With a previous build which I don't know which one it was...sorry...I did not have this issue with the exact same M2TS files.

Any idea what may be causing the PS3 to react as Illegal Disk?

Thanks.:)

[Aai em ron]

Thanks for the new build. Looks great.

[drelin]

Hello,
about the "loop playback" at end of the last title saw in previous posts :
I've tested with the lastest versions :
- with avchd "no menu" and option QUIT desactivated, it's works fine.
- with avchd "with menu" and option QUIT desactivated, no "loop playback" and player return to the menu.

Can you add a option for avchd "with menu" to force loop playback at the end of last title (last title movie end->fisrt title movie start).
With this option, the return to menu will be only if "TOP menu/MEnu" button used on remote.

Another error appaer during complilation if I make AVCHD with menu, if image.jpeg existing in same folder as video/audio files.
ex : with movie.jpeg and movie.264/movie.ac3
If I removoe the jpeg file no error message, with avhd with menu, it's works fine.

[nwg]

DVD import works great but not sure what use it really is. If someone wants to play a DVD, wouldn't they just put the DVD on? I suppose it is a quick way to get menus for selecting smaller mutiple files.

I like the preview screen.

[strad]

SORRY, but with Build 600 I got a strange problem!
Yesterday I burned by mistake a 7.5GB compilation (AVCHD), made with v.591, to a DVD + R DL, which my Panasonic BD-60 refused to read.
This morning I wanted to repeat the whole thing on -R DL (with a few changes using v.600-full download), but after pressing the button "AVCHD compatible players" the attached message appeared, no matter how often I tried, also after changing settings.
Normally I erase former versions, but then found v.588 in one folder which worked instanly.
What goes wrong?

[Mtz]

Upload multiAVCHD_pid.JPG to http://host.imageshack.us/ for example and put here the link, don't attach.

@dean, thank you for the TRP support. I made a test with the only TRP file I have and I noticed some audio delay.

enjoy,
Mtz

[deank]

Build 600 was probably the worst build of all in the short history of multiAVCHD.

There were like 1000 bugs.

Please update to 601.

There were so many things wrong that I can't even start to list them.

Dean

@nwg: DVD import works great but not sure what use it really is. If someone wants to play a DVD, wouldn't they just put the DVD on? I suppose it is a quick way to get menus for selecting smaller mutiple files.

I don't know. People asked about it. And you can put 100 DVDs in one AVCHD compilation (for Playstation3 for example).

***

@Mtz: Yes, I need a way to demux/encode MP2 audio without this audio sync problems. If you know how - let me know.

[drelin]

Hello,
about the "loop playback" at end of the last title saw in previous posts :
I've tested with the lastest versions :
- with avchd "no menu" and option QUIT desactivated, it's works fine.
- with avchd "with menu" and option QUIT desactivated, no "loop playback" and player return to the menu.

Can you add a option for avchd "with menu" to force loop playback at the end of last title (last title movie end->fisrt title movie start).
With this option, the return to menu will be only if "TOP menu/MEnu" button used on remote.

Another error appaer during complilation if I make AVCHD with menu, if image.jpeg existing in same folder as video/audio files.
ex : with movie.jpeg and movie.264/movie.ac3
If I removoe the jpeg file no error message, with avhd with menu, it's works fine.

And for this request, Can add this function in next build ?

[deank]

If you tell me what are you using multiAVCHD's output for I may answer.

[HDBytes]

Is there a way to have multiAVCHD play a video file ie: an intro video first then launch the main menu with the other titles?

Were any of the bugs in 600 related to build 591 and my post on some M2TS files in the compilation causing the PS3 to reject the BD disk as illegal while some titles play fine? As I mentioned all the titles played fine in a previous build (with the auto-update I lost that build and don't know which one it was).

Thank you.

[nwg]

I am getting a Multiavchd is already running message with "do you want to launch another instance" with build 601. It is also doing it after rebooting so they is no way there is more than one copy running.

[drelin]

If you tell me what are you using multiAVCHD's output for I may answer.

Just need to make a avchd with some short movies to turn on loop but with access menu to select one title in particular.
It's for make a personnal demo disk

[deank]

And for this request, Can add this function in next build ?

In build 601+ you will find a drop-down list in Author:

Action after last title: [Go to stand-by mode] [Display menu] [Loop playback]

It's for make a personnal demo disk...

Right... That's why I asked in the first place. And if you've read the ABOUT TAB info you would've know that you'll need to contact me if you're going to use multiAVCHD for promotional purposes or anything NOT HOME-entertainment related.


Were any of the bugs in 600 related to build 591 and my post on some M2TS files in the compilation causing the PS3 to reject the BD disk as illegal while some titles play fine? As I mentioned all the titles played fine in a previous build (with the auto-update I lost that build and don't know which one it was).


I don't see how multiAVCHD can cause such error.

I am getting a Multiavchd is already running message with "do you want to launch another instance" with build 601. It is also doing it after rebooting so they is no way there is more than one copy running.

Take a look at the first post on this page.


***

@Mtz: Can you check again the TRP import?

[drelin]

Thank for update, and it's only for personnal use, not for marketing or commercial issues.

[deank]

Thanks, hope more people will send donations to you.:)

Yeah... Sadly the latest few weeks (during which multiAVCHD got its best updates and features) mark the lowest support since the beginning - about 2-3 donations. Still... I enjoy adding more and more.

:D

[kenguru2005]

Don't worry. multiAVCHD doesn't use MOV features of tsMuxeR. In fact, as many of you think how hard multiAVCHD is dependent on tsMuxeR - it is the case and it is not. multiAVCHD has a completely different approach on feeding stuff to tsMuxeR so I doubt anything will ever go wrong (unless tsmuxer stops processing files at all :) ). multiAVCHD does not rely on tsMuxeR's ability to detect input files/types but forces it to accept what's written in the .meta file - hence multiAVCHD can process a lot more files, which tsMuxeR can't (or couldn't until recently).
You have my skype - so just drop a note if you're worried about anything.



Thank you Dean .... your application is the star shining on my "HDV Authoring sky" .... and it works perfect.

[deank]

:) You're welcome... You can even use tsMuxeR 1.8.8(b) :) and multiAVCHD will still produce what most people need.

[deank]

Is there a way to have multiAVCHD play a video file ie: an intro video first then launch the main menu with the other titles?

There is an option in multiAVCHD to create a "Welcome screen"/"Intro".

If you don't like the generated welcome screen (after you generate your compilation) you can replace it:

BDMV\STREAM\01400.m2ts
BDMV\CLIPINF\01400.clpi
BDMV\PLAYLIST\01400.mpls (you need to change MTS reference)

These are the files you need to replace with your new welcome screen. If you don't know how to make it work - you'll need to wait for such option in some of the next builds.

[deank]

I forgot to mention some of the changes in 601/601+:

* Abort current and Abort all buttons

* Imported files without chapters will get auto-generated chapters (if external chapters are not used/found):

- If duration is between 1 min and 10 mins - 4 chapter marks
- If duration is 10 to 20 mins - 8 chapter marks
- If duration is over 20 mins - 12 chapter marks

Auto-generated chapter marks are equally spaced within title duration (you'll always get 4, 8 or 12 chapters)

* Added _DVD_DEBUG.txt in exe-path + pop-up with request to sent .txt to me when DVD import fails

* HDAVCTN folder is preserved even if you decide not to create a menu, but used a source, which had thumbnails already generated

* multiCHAP.txt has the correct number of lines with chapters

* If a title (file/playlist) processing fails - it won't be included in the final compilation and menu/title names will not be misplaced as in all previous builds

* [view] button in media tab and [preview] in [edit]-pop-up will show correct preview in 95% of the cases. Sometimes preview won't show correct frame-extraction-times and sometimes it won't show preview at all.

* Messages in log-tab are changed and easier to read (added "Title added: xxxx" log message on sucessfull title addition)

* DVR TRP import now supports both H.264 and MPEG-2 encoded recordings. Still there may be audio sync problems with MPEG (MP2) audio.

* [x] Quit on last title finish option in Author tab is removed and replaced with:

Action after last title: [Go to stand-by mode] [Display menu] [Loop playback]

--- [Go to stand-by mode] will STOP playback after last title
--- [Display menu] will work as [Go to stand-by mode] if no menu is generated, otherwise top menu will be shown (default)
--- [Loop playback] will initiate playback of title #1 once last title finishes (infinite loop)

Dean

***

I think 2.7.601 is a great build, which features: (ad time)

Media import from:

* AVCHD structures from SDHC cards
* Blu-ray structures
* older (previously compiled) multiAVCHD structures (SDHC/Blu-ray/AVCHD)
* DVD folders & titles
* MKV, MP4, MOV, MPEG, VC-1, TRP, VOB, M2TS, TS, elementary H264 (264), MPEG-2 (m2v), VC-1 (vc1), MPL/MPLS playlists
* ...and more


Ability to create output compatible with:

* AVCHD players
* Blu-ray players
* SDHC players (Panasonic BD, TV, CC)
* Playstation 3

+ 3 menu configurations and support of 252 titles

[glowball]

Yeah... Sadly the latest few weeks (during which multiAVCHD got its best updates and features) mark the lowest support since the beginning - about 2-3 donations. Still... I enjoy adding more and more.

:D

I'm finding this program very useful for my Panasonic TZ7's movies by creating collections of my favourite clips and putting them onto SDHC cards and displaying on my TV. Expect a donation from me soon, thanks.

[zrdb]

Sorry to be a pain but I seem to be having the same problem-it'll convert some files and not others. I'm wondering if completly uninstalling the program and reinstalling it would solve the problem. How do you completly uninstall it since there doesn't seem to be an installer? Thank you very much.

[strad]

hello Dean,
trying to make a test compilation with v.601 on my laptop (Windows 7 RC1), which in contrary to my other computers has no extras like klite codec pack installed and wondering why the preview in menu tab doesn´t work. No result.
But klicking on review in editor tab shows a message (attached), klick on OK aborts the program. 2nd message comes up when klicking on start and Blu-ray output. Also abortion.

strad

[deank]

I can't see neither of your attachments yet... sorry.

@strad: All previews in multiAVCHD require Avisynth (and Directshow decoder for certain decodings - like creating menus)


***


Another option almost ready in "Title editor"/"Title properties":

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_te.jpg

A lot of info and settings available per title. Useful... :D

There is a small preview with slider that you can use to browse the whole title, information about duration, codecs, etc... option to change what happens after title finishes (go to menu or continue with next)...

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_te2.jpg

And of course it all can be extended to selecting a custom thumbnail for the title or cutting and many other things.

[Capsbackup]

@deank;
If you don't like the generated welcome screen (after you generate your compilation) you can replace it:

BDMV\STREAM\01400.m2ts
BDMV\CLIPINF\01400.clpi
BDMV\PLAYLIST\01400.mpls (you need to change MTS reference)

Perhaps you could share the method to create this, in particular how to change MTS reference. I know how to generate/make a new .m2ts and .clpi from TsMuxer, but what to do about the .mpls file and change MTS you have mentioned?
Thanks.

[strad]

@zrdb
just reading your message. There is no installer, all needed files are in the folder. In order to start with original settings, you can erase the multiAVCHD.ini, but as I experienced it doesn´t has any impact on normal functions of the programm.

[deank]

@deank;


Perhaps you could share the method to create this, in particular how to change MTS reference. I know how to generate/make a new .m2ts and .clpi from TsMuxer, but what to do about the .mpls file and change MTS you have mentioned?
Thanks.

Open the mpl/mpls file with a hex editor and change your original M2TS reference to 01400.M2TS

You'll see 00001M2TS or 00000M2TS in the HEX view... change it to 01400M2TS.

[zrdb]

@zrdb
just reading your message. There is no installer, all needed files are in the folder. In order to start with original settings, you can erase the multiAVCHD.ini, but as I experienced it doesn´t has any impact on normal functions of the programm.

Thanks-that's what I figured as this application is just a front end-probally what I'm gonna do is restore my c partition off of an earlier image and try it again.

[deank]

Yeah... 'just a front end'... what do I know.

[nicchap]

LoL. Some good ol' irony.

[deank]

:) Yep... Build 602 is out... Some additions in "Title edit" box (as in screenshots).

Goodnight all :)

[rendez2k]

:) Yep... Build 602 is out... Some additions in "Title edit" box (as in screenshots).

Goodnight all :)

These updates are really superb - thank you for all your hard work. I may have to re-donate at this rate!

Couple of questions, what does the thumbnail number do? I assume poster image isn't work yet? And I assume to import multiple DVDs, I'd need to rip them all to my HDD first?

Also, any plans to allow the import of more SD material such as xvids? I know its not really the point of the software but it world be nice for building compilations.

Oh, and can multiple audio tracks be added?

Anyway, thanks again - great work!

[drpaulng]

Yeah... 'just a front end'... what do I know.

I have donated a very small a amount of Euro as to show my respect for this great program after 1 week of testing on it. multiAVCHD is similar to some front-ends like Gordian Knot. But the compiling flow is very smooth and more user friendly. I think it is more like AutoGK. Indeed, Dean has made use of a lot of free-wares and integrating them into a great program. It is not simply a front-end (GUI). I am specially grateful to his work because it has many special features no other BD authoring softwares offer in the commerical world. I could not buy something like this with money! For me, I hardly follows what is happening if I do not visit the thread within a few days because the program evolves very very fast. Some glitches are inevitable and many new features are not shown in the tutorial page. As a user, I myself have no programming knowledge and tend to ask a lot of questions. Fortunately, when users posted their problems and suggestions, Dean K. "almost aways" replied with solutions and took the suggestion with positive moves.

Thank you Deank!

[deank]

what does the thumbnail number do? I assume poster image isn't work yet? And I assume to import multiple DVDs, I'd need to rip them all to my HDD first?

Also, any plans to allow the import of more SD material such as xvids? I know its not really the point of the software but it world be nice for building compilations.

Oh, and can multiple audio tracks be added?

Thumbnail field was/is used to put a frame number, for a frame to be used as thumbnail in XMB and Thumbnail menus (instead of auto selected one)

Yes, you need to rip the DVDs to your HDD - otherwise it will take forever to convert them.

No, there is no way to support XviD or DivX videos (unless they have h264 video). SD videos are supported in multiAVCHD - just have to be in a supported format.

You can add multiple tracks to an imported file by placing all audio files in the folder of your imported movie: ie movie.mkv movie.ac3 movie.dts movie.2.ac3....

Dean

p.s. @drpaulng: :thanks:

[rendez2k]

Thanks deank

Thumbnail field was/is used to put a frame number, for a frame to be used as thumbnail in XMB and Thumbnail menus (instead of auto selected one)

I assume the slider under the preview image can now be used to select the preview frame? I
I also thought it would be kind of cool if when you press the preview button that you could select one of the images from the grid.


No, there is no way to support XviD or DivX videos (unless they have h264 video). SD videos are supported in multiAVCHD - just have to be in a supported format.

Is there an easy way to get an xvid into a compatible MKV container?

Many thanks again :D

[deank]

If the video is XviD/DivX and audio is AC3/DTS/PCM you can use uncropMKV to make a compliant MKV (which can be accepted by multiAVCHD). It has to be reencoded - there is no other option.

[Mtz]

@Mtz: Can you check again the TRP import?
Seems that the delay is fixed, but tested on only one file. :thanks: How do you solve it?
I hope to receive more TRP files to test and I'll tell you if any news.

enjoy,
Mtz

[rendez2k]

If the video is XviD/DivX and audio is AC3/DTS/PCM you can use uncropMKV to make a compliant MKV (which can be accepted by multiAVCHD). It has to be reencoded - there is no other option.

I assume something like RipBot is the way to go with this. Does the frame size have to be a certain size to be compatible with multiAVCHD?

[deank]

Yes, the best way to go is to have 720x480, 720x576, 1280x720, 1440x1080 or 1920x1080.

[jsffm]

If the video is XviD/DivX and audio is AC3/DTS/PCM you can use uncropMKV to make a compliant MKV (which can be accepted by multiAVCHD). It has to be reencoded - there is no other option.

This one does a good job:

HandBrake (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/HandBrake)

[strad]

Wow, that´s a good prog. - I never heard of it before!
Better suitable for those purposes than "Super".
Right now I´m testing with DVD folder --> mp4
Thank you!

[strad]

hello Dean,
I installed Avisynth, ffdshow and MatroskaSplitter on that notebook and no more errors. With v.602 also on the main computer no problem anymore!
You did an increadible job on the program overall, but the last added features are a big step forward. I also agree to drpaulng:
...because it has many special features no other BD authoring softwares offer in the commerical world.
Wait for another donation.....
strad

[deank]

:) I'm glad it worked. (thanks for your support!)

Build 602+:

* Larger preview in Title editor
* "Use frame" button will put current time (in seconds) in "Thumbnail" box to be used as title bg in XMB/THM
* Added << and >> to move forward/backward (1 sec)
* Added button "Add chapter" - will be enabled later

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_te3.jpg

Dean

[rduck]

Hi

I'm trying to convert a .ts file to a BD structure (I've also tried AVCHD output)... In both cases none of the subtitle streams from the original .ts file seem be to included.
I can demux the subtitles from the original .ts file using projectx - and get them out as .sup files

Is there something I have misunderstood regarding subtitle support in the program - or maybe I'm just doing it incorrectly ?

Regards,
Rduck

[deank]

Hey there!

If you have your subtitles exported as BD sup file (not Vobsub) and your movie is "movie.ts", place your subtitles in the same folder and name them "movie.sup".

Check [x] Add external SRT/SUP subtitles in Audio/Subtitles tab.

If you do not succeed - send me a sample so I can look at it.

Dean

edit: If mediainfo shows something like"


Text
ID : 2312 (0x908)
Menu ID : 3 (0x3)
Format : Teletext
Language : English


multiAVCHD will not process such embedded 'subtitles'... but I have a sample and may look at it.

[HDBytes]

Hi Dean,

Some $$ coming your way...great program. To all those whose authoring lives have been made easy...step up and support his tireless work. This app knocks the socks off commercial software and then some.

Any way to have some sort of save feature that if you want to alter a compilation of titles add/remove some, that you don't have to go back and re-enter all the thumbnail frame numbers and redo menu titles etc.

Thanks.

[rduck]

Hi

I hust tried to rename the file and place it in the same dir as the .ts file...
The log also says:

[15:33:01] Adding subtitles (Subtitles.sup) (und)
[15:33:01] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[15:33:01] M2TS stream split set at 8192MiB...

When the program has finished its processing, I try to play the m2ts file in the BDMV\STREAM catalog with VLC mediaplayer - and I'm not able to select a subtitle in here... But maybe it isn't possible in VNC ?

[deank]

You cannot play AVCHD/Blu-ray structures with regular players and subtitles will never show if you're playing the files, but not the whole structure.

You need either burn it to a disc, play it in Playstation 3 or use Blu-ray software player like Nero Showtime or PDVD or Total Media Theater.

[Mtz]

I think his subtitles are "teletext" format. Uploading a sample will help you more.
Regarding subtitles and PC players. I play m2ts (from AVCHD-BR structure) with MPCHC and I can see and select desired subtitles.

enjoy,
Mtz

[deank]

Hi Dean,

Some $$ coming your way...

Any way to have some sort of save feature that if you want to alter a compilation of titles add/remove some, that you don't have to go back and re-enter all the thumbnail frame numbers and redo menu titles etc.

Thanks :)

I was thinking of some kind of 'Save project' option. I'll have to think about it again and will post with results :)

It is a bit tricky, because if you change something in the input files/folders (those listed in Media tab) after you've saved the project some problems may arise.

Dean

[drelin]

Good idea for "save project" if you can :)

Another suggestion for the menu pages, if avialable : a option to insert audio track (for bakground audio in menu) like as you add for welcome sreen.

I saw that you have take of the "pop menu" futur plan, is defenitively out (for technical issu or limitation of AVCHD) ?

[deank]

I posted about 10 times about background audio for the menu. If it was possible, I would've added it months ago. When I find a way - I will add such option.

I removed 'pop-up menu' option as I removed "Panasonic SDHC" option some time ago, because there was no space in the GUI (especially for an option not working). Once I implement it - it will appear again.

Dean

[strad]

The only Software I know (after trying almost everything available) which can do all the things we want is Show Time from NERO 9 (with Blu-Ray Video Plugin).
If you load the whole structure (Folder) it will play also the chosen subtitle.
If you load e.g. a single m2TS file you need a subtitle file like *.srt (same name as video) and subtitle instantly is shown.
Other:
1.) Power DVD 8 only shows subtiles from a disc and lacks of the possibility to open folders.
2.) VLC Player (0.9.9) can open folders and plays everything you want, but also needs the seperate subtitle file.
3.) Media Player Classic also plays everything from HDD, but you never see any subtitle, even if it can be chosen (by klick in the window/"Navigate") and is obviously existing.
Example: I muxed a DVD folder together with the before extracted subtitle (with Subrip) to m2TS. Loaded in MPC you can choose the subtitle, but it is not visible.

The best thing to get real proof of your subtitles without extra expense is actually (like Dean said) to burn the project on a rewritabel disc and use VLC or MPClassic if you don´t have Nero.
strad

[strad]

I think his subtitles are "teletext" format. Uploading a sample will help you more.
Regarding subtitles and PC players. I play m2ts (from AVCHD-BR structure) with MPCHC and I can see and select desired subtitles.

I don´t see it - how do you get it shown?

[deank]

Latest minor update for 602/602+:

* About 5-10 times faster preview/>>/<< in "Title properties"
* Fixed preview for AVCHD/BD folders (playlists)
* Added: "multiAVCHD finished in XXXX seconds" message at the end of the log

Dean

[rendez2k]

I'm just creating my latest complication and I wondered if its possible to move the thumbnails in the default "thumbnail menu" - with 3 titles they look a bit unbalanced with 2 on top then one to the left on the bottom?

[deank]

When I first created THM menu I was thinking of implementing

. .
X
. .

. .
X . X
. .

. .
X X X
. .

X X
. . .
X X

X X
. X .
X X

X X
X . X
X X

X X
X X X
X X


But it requires too much time... which I put in more useful features. I will see about implementing it.

I'd suggest to you to use XMB when you have less than 7 titles.

[rendez2k]

When I first created THM menu I was thinking of implementing

. .
X
. .

. .
X . X
. .

. .
X X X
. .

X X
. . .
X X

X X
. X .
X X

X X
X . X
X X

X X
X X X
X X


But it requires too much time... which I put in more useful feature. I will see about implementing it.

I'd suggest to you to use XMB when you have less than 7 titles.

Brilliant! Look forward to seeing what you come up with :-)

[drelin]

I posted about 10 times about background audio for the menu. If it was possible, I would've added it months ago. When I find a way - I will add such option.

I removed 'pop-up menu' option as I removed "Panasonic SDHC" option some time ago, because there was no space in the GUI (especially for an option not working). Once I implement it - it will appear again.

Dean

It's clear.

I don't see the post about audio background, sorry if you must repeat same thing another time.
For the other option, it's just to know the advancement of you plan.

I make suggestion only, I support your job and take with interrest any new feature added.

Thank for the answer.

[deank]

Just to put you all up to speed with things I'll be working on the next few days:

* Implementing "Add chapters" in title preview
* Option to add a file for custom Welcome screen
* Changes in THM menu
* Initiate 'carousel menu' tests

If there is anyone reading with some free time (in my time zone GMT+2 / +/- 5hrs) and willing to spend time in testing with (sometimes not working) test builds of multiAVCHD - drop a note (PM or via skype).

Dean

[Mike1029]

Hi Deank, I just compiled an avchd with 33 titles but the time length of one of them were shown 13:15 iso original 1:45 and it hanged at the end of the movie when I play it. Is there any workaround to change the time back to original. Thank you.

[maxb1]

Hi Dean,

that's my first post in this forum. I came across this great program a few weeks ago and I must say congratulations to your excellent work!

I do work with Pinnacle Studio 12 Plus to create AVCHD and BDMV output. For playback on a Panasonic BD-60 I intend to use its SDHC slot. To put the Pinnacle AVCHD output structure on a FAT32 SDHC it is sufficient to bring the files into 8.3 filename structure if you have .m2ts files which are below 4GiB.

However if the .m2ts are bigger than 4GiB I want to use multiAVCHD build 603 and set the split-point to 3999MiB in the muxer tab.
When selecting the input files through the "AVCHD/BDMV/DVD" button it seem to work fine with multiAVCHD but it does not split the .m2ts output file at the desired size. There is just one stream generated that has the original size of the input file (in my case 4,7GiB) and I'm not able to copy it to a SDHC card.

The same is true for BDMV folders but it works without any issue for DVD folders.

Any idea what may go wrong here?

Thanks
maxb1

[deank]

I just compiled an avchd with 33 titles but the time length of one of them were shown 13:15 iso original 1:45 and it hanged at the end of the movie...

I do not understand what happened exactly.

...if the .m2ts are bigger than 4GiB I want to use multiAVCHD build 603 and set the split-point to 3999MiB in the muxer tab.
When selecting the input files through the "AVCHD/BDMV/DVD" button it seem to work fine with multiAVCHD but it does not split the .m2ts output file at the desired size.

1) Enable [x] Prompt to import playlists (in Settings)
2) Drag your folder to multiAVCHD
3) "Would you like to import individual playlists?" message will appear
4) Click yes and select the correct MPL/mpls file

You will see the imported playlist in Media tab, identified by [f]. If it is [p] or [m] - split will not be applied.

---

Dean

[drelin]

A question about understanding setting "Frame to encode" in Visual settings on Menu Tab.
What is the result with differents values lower and high (2-30s) in playback.

I ask you because I remark in playback (on standalone and PDVD) a delay for access to button navigation each change page menu displayed.
Depending the settings I'll be able to optimate the delay access navigation with my players (PS3 and Sony S350).

[deank]

The option is left for compatibility reasons. The lowest is the value - the better. You need to experiment with its values, starting from 2 frames (lowest value). If it works in your player - leave it to 2 - if not - set it to 10 and try again.

Values of 4-6-8 should work for most people.

[drelin]

With 603 build I obtaint windows error message whent i click on title in the edit TAB " No disk (or media) in the reader. Insert a disk in reader D". (D is a DVD-RW reader/writer).
I seen this message in prevouis build if I remember : problem with ".multiTH" folder ?

[deank]

It is mplayer causing the error... multiAVCHD is looking for the thumbnails - that's why the popup appears.

[deank]

A small update in 603+:

* Fixed import of "Welcome screens" (the program fragment was deleted by accident in some of the previous builds) - multiAVCHD will prompt if you want to import the welcome screen from a previous compilation (if 01400.*** are found in it)

* Fixed navigation placeholders for Classic and Thumbnail menu - nav arrow won't show in software players if you're using the mouse.

Dean

[Mtz]

I don´t see it - how do you get it shown?
Here are some screenshots with my settings.
http://thumbnails14.imagebam.com/3633/8ae4c136322075.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8ae4c136322075) http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/3633/0c5c6636322077.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0c5c6636322077) http://thumbnails9.imagebam.com/3633/6c7d1436322079.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/6c7d1436322079)

I hope that settings are enough for subtitles.

As decoder I use ffdshow for H264/AVC decoding and I enabled ffmpeg-mt. That green info is from ffdshow OSD to prove that I'm using ffdshow.

enjoy,
Mtz

[Mtz]

dean, about your working with TS: try to extract the subtitles from your TS with CCExtractorGUI (http://freshmeat.net/projects/ccextractor). The OCR is not so good. Also I saw that you posted in the BDSup2Sub thread about this type of subtitles and the author can't do much at this moment. Tell him also about this program maybe he can find how to implement in his program loading of CC (teletext) subtitles from TS stream. I think the CC subtitles are only used on MPEG2 video. Timmings in CC subtitles are not so good as usual subtitles.
If you are working on TS caps also you can test the program MPEG2Repair (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MPEG2Repair).

enjoy,
Mtz

[Cela]

I should have posted my problem here instead of there:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1284677#post1284677

Here I have the feeling, that Deank's tools could do what I need: For the start I would need an easy transcoding workflow (with tools and sample avs, etc.) for Xvid streams recorded with Total Recorder Video Add-on 7.1. Next there would be WVC1 recordings and DVB S2 h.264 TS recordings waiting in the queue.

The Xvid AVI recordings have the following stream properties:
Video properties: 844x476 pixels (cropped 16/9), 30fps
(ffdshow Xvid is I-frame only for frame-accurate editing in VirtualDub)
Audio properties: 16 bit 48 kHz; PCM (Xvid recordings)

A short example "TR_Xvid_Test1.avi" (4084 KB) can be found here (http://rapidshare.com/files/234024064/TR_Xvid_Test1.zip) at RapidShare.

There are loads of infos for how to transcode starting with VOBs from DVDs but not much for my Xvid AVI source footage.

I already made a test with uncropMKV but it seems to dislike my Vista environment and stops almost instantly after input of "TR_Xvid_Test1.avi" without producing the expected mkv which I would like to feed into multiAVCHD. It worked well in freshly installed Windows 7 environment, though. But I would need it running in my Vista where I have all the applications which I need for my hobby.

At some stage of the workflow I would like to enter chapters and maybe get multiAVCHD to provide a main menu and a chapter menu.

I posted my dream list some time ago as feature request for tsMuxeR in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1209930#post1209930.

I hope uncropMKV and multiAVCHD will become milestones on that roadmap.

Regards

Cela

Edit - Now it works! :)

Simple Xvid to multiAVCHD workflow - uncropMKV and multiAVCHD do the job:
1. Feed Xvid.avi into uncropMKV, set Resize to 720 x 480 or 1280 x 720. You will get an ...uncropped.mkv
2. Feed this into multiAVCHD, add the chapters, and there you are! !

If you have problems running these programs in Vista get your codecs straight!
Because I really wanted to make it work, I followed exactly Dean's checklist:
1) Reboot your computer
2) Completely uninstall K-LITE codecs
3) Reboot your computer
4) Completely uninstall AviSynth and Matroska splitter
5) Reboot your computer
6) Try to play any AVI or MKV file
7) If they STILL PLAY - there is a BIG problem because there must be another Directshow filter/codec installed (may play in Nero and PowerDVD which bring their own internal codecs)
8) If nothing plays - go to 9)
9) Download FFDSHOW from the link I posted in uncropMKV thread
10) Install Avisynth and matroska splitter (Haali)
11) Restart
12) Install ffdshow with Avisynth support (and do not enable ANY pre-post processing options)
13) Go to Start/Programs/Avisynth 2.5/Example scripts and try to play Version.avs with Media player Classic or Windows Media Player
14) Try uncropMKV again
(In addition to Dean's checklist I uninstalled MKVToolnix which I had on my computer from earlier tests.)

Now the first milestone of my roadmap is reached.
Next goals will be title menus and chapter menus. ;)

And do not forget do DONATE to keep Dean motivated to carry on with his excellent jobs!

[strad]

multiAVCHD shows at start TsMuxer version 1.10.4
Latest is 1.10.6:
- keep original position of resized sup
- fix resized sup color
- avchd output includes BDJO/JAR/META empty folders for compatibility
- add input command for tsmuxergu

[deank]

I'd ask you not to change the version provided in tools folder. None of these changes affect multiAVCHD processing of subtitles or AVCHD output.

Using different versions makes it harder to detect/correct bugs.

Dean

[strad]

Alright, that´s good to know and the intention was to clear that point.

[drelin]

With 603 build I obtaint windows error message whent i click on title in the edit TAB " No disk (or media) in the reader. Insert a disk in reader D". (D is a DVD-RW reader/writer).
I seen this message in prevouis build if I remember : problem with ".multiTH" folder ?

I've found a solution for this error message.

You wrote :
It is mplayer causing the error... multiAVCHD is looking for the thumbnails - that's why the popup appears.

The error appears if a DVD-ROM drive use a Windows letter location created before a HDD partition letter.
In my case : D letter is selected to DVD-RW drive and the first data HDD partition (other that C Windows) is E.
Just after change in Windows Manager Disk the letter selection to all HDD partitions before the 1st DVD-ROM drive, the error massage not appears and multiavchd works fine.

If other user have the same error, This solution is a good issue.

[deank]

Yes, that's the solution.
Another solution is to have a disc in the DVD drive ;)

[drelin]

To demonstrate the features and possibilities for Custom AVCHD, see the snapshots of menus created with multiavchd.

With other options of navigations and the output supports, you can imagine the big interest to support this software.

XMB Menu with One title and thumbnails chapters acces
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9845/xmbmenuonetitlewithchap.jpg

XMB Menu with some titles
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6370/xmbmenumultititles.jpg

[deank]

When I first created THM menu I was thinking of implementing

. .
X
. .

. .
X . X
. .

. .
X X X
. .

X X
. . .
X X

X X
. X .
X X

X X
X . X
X X

X X
X X X
X X


But it requires too much time... which I put in more useful features. I will see about implementing it.

I'd suggest to you to use XMB when you have less than 7 titles.

Brilliant! Look forward to seeing what you come up with :-)


You got it now in Build 604. :) (Menu preview won't show the actual order but that's not important)

Here is how it looks with 5 titles for example:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_THM.jpg

@drelin: It's better to use some free image hosting, not overload doom9 with picture attachments... and we can't see them until they're approved anyway.

[drelin]

The image source are free of charge normaly.
The shorts movie is open source.
The other images are custom modification of wallpaper proposed free.

I change the hosting source.

[drelin]

What I meant was to upload the sceenshots to a free site :) not as an attachment... Let us see them!

OK :)
And now is better ?

[deank]

These snapshots look really nice :)

Can I use them whenever I need to show XMB styled menu, created with multiAVCHD?

[glowball]

I'm amazed at how fast this program is evolving, great work and to show my gratitude I have sent you my support.
If my condition gets worse I may need it back, make sure to wash it before returning it, thanks.

[deank]

It will be there if you need it back :) in though times.

[drelin]

These snapshots look really nice :)

Can I use them whenever I need to show XMB styled menu, created with multiAVCHD?

Yes of course : )

For tips on multiavchd with multi titles (no chapter) for cosmetic rendering I use value = 0 for opacity of navigation button.
In this case each thumbnail for title correponding on "the button".
This a sample custom menu.

[deank]

Inspired by those screenshots I'm adding an option:

Thumbnail border + size/color to get nice frame around the thumbnails in XMB.

:)

[rendez2k]

Inspired by those screenshots I'm adding an option:

Thumbnail border + size/color to get nice frame around the thumbnails in XMB.

:)

Could a border be used instead of the arrow graphic to show what selected? Maybe a change in colour?

[deank]

Could a border be used instead of the arrow graphic to show what selected? Maybe a change in colour?

No.. sorry... Did you notice my post about Thumbnail menu?

[rendez2k]

No.. sorry... Did you notice my post about Thumbnail menu?

Sorry, I forgot to say it looks great and can't wait to test when I (finally) get home! Is the correct preview something that will be added? Sometimes it nice to see how it will sit on a background (if it covers text/graphics etc).

[deank]

I'll see about that.

[rendez2k]

I'll see about that.

Thanks! Its a shame the US TV season is all but over. It was my biggest use for multiAVCHD. I'll have to find new material to play with now!

[deank]

A new option in Author tab / XMB section:

[x] Frame thumbnails with IG color

If checked, a thin frame will border all thumbnails with IG color set in Menu tab.

[deank]

I should have posted my problem here instead of there:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1284677#post1284677

Here I have the feeling, that Deank's tools could do what I need: For the start I would need an easy transcoding workflow (with tools and sample avs, etc.) for Xvid streams recorded with Total Recorder Video Add-on 7.1. Next there would be WVC1 recordings and DVB S2 h.264 TS recordings waiting in the queue.

The Xvid AVI recordings have the following stream properties:
Video properties: 844x476 pixels (cropped 16/9), 30fps
(ffdshow Xvid is I-frame only for frame-accurate editing in VirtualDub)
Audio properties: 16 bit 48 kHz; PCM (Xvid recordings)

A short example "TR_Xvid_Test1.avi" (4084 KB) can be found here (http://rapidshare.com/files/234024064/TR_Xvid_Test1.zip) at RapidShare.

There are loads of infos for how to transcode starting with VOBs from DVDs but not much for my Xvid AVI source footage.

I already made a test with uncropMKV but it seems to dislike my Vista environment and stops almost instantly after input of "TR_Xvid_Test1.avi" without producing the expected mkv which I would like to feed into multiAVCHD. It worked well in freshly installed Windows 7 environment, though. But I would need it running in my Vista where I have all the applications which I need for my hobby.

At some stage of the workflow I would like to enter chapters and maybe get multiAVCHD to provide a main menu and a chapter menu.

I posted my dream list some time ago as feature request for tsMuxeR in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1209930#post1209930.

I hope uncropMKV and multiAVCHD will become milestones on that roadmap.

Regards

Cela

Edit - Now it works! :)

Simple Xvid to multiAVCHD workflow - uncropMKV and multiAVCHD do the job:
1. Feed Xvid.avi into uncropMKV, set Resize to 720 x 480 or 1280 x 720. You will get an ...uncropped.mkv
2. Feed this into multiAVCHD, add the chapters, and there you are! !

If you have problems running these programs in Vista get your codecs straight!
Because I really wanted to make it work, I followed exactly Dean's checklist:
1) Reboot your computer
2) Completely uninstall K-LITE codecs
3) Reboot your computer
4) Completely uninstall AviSynth and Matroska splitter
5) Reboot your computer
6) Try to play any AVI or MKV file
7) If they STILL PLAY - there is a BIG problem because there must be another Directshow filter/codec installed (may play in Nero and PowerDVD which bring their own internal codecs)
8) If nothing plays - go to 9)
9) Download FFDSHOW from the link I posted in uncropMKV thread
10) Install Avisynth and matroska splitter (Haali)
11) Restart
12) Install ffdshow with Avisynth support (and do not enable ANY pre-post processing options)
13) Go to Start/Programs/Avisynth 2.5/Example scripts and try to play Version.avs with Media player Classic or Windows Media Player
14) Try uncropMKV again
(In addition to Dean's checklist I uninstalled MKVToolnix which I had on my computer from earlier tests.)

Now the first milestone of my roadmap is reached.
Next goals will be title menus and chapter menus. ;)

And do not forget do DONATE to keep Dean motivated to carry on with his excellent jobs!

:) Thanks for posting all this... It took few days but we did it.

[deank]

Option added in Settings tab:

[-] Disable preview in Title properties

Unchecked by default. If checked - no preview will be available in "Title properties". 3x3 preview is still available after confirmation.

Dean

[deank]

Few very important things to note:

1) Playstation3 plays 25fps 1280x544 in 576p (PAL PS3 firmware 2.76) - much better than in 480p
2) tsMuxeR 1.10.x cannot produce subtitles (SRT-SUP) for 1280x xxx @ 25fps - they are not showing at all (in any player).
3) I lost an hour wondering what is wrong
4) Using tsMuxeR 1.9.9 fixed all

I'll revert tsMuxeR in multiAVCHD package to an earlier version until Roman fixes this issue.

The difference between tsmuxer versions 1.9.9 and 1.10.4+ affecting multiAVCHD, is tsmuxer's inability to process .MPL playlists in m2ts join mode (i.e. input from camcodes or in other rare and uncommon cases).

*** Full download is updated with tsMuxeR 1.9.9.
*** If you're not using subtitles you can continue to use latest tsMuxeR versions,
*** but without any support from my side.

******

If anyone decides to post about a problem, please include:

* FULL LOG (with [x] Verbose logging enabled)
* tsMuxeR version
* Build number

Dean

[nwg]

I am getting a error with 604. When I click on a entry in the names editor, I get these two errors. It only happens with DVD folders.

http://www.apah20.dsl.pipex.com/dvd/avchderror.jpg

Program then quits

[zrdb]

Has anyone had problems with Samsung BD players recognising discs with the latest versions?

I like creating 720p/1080p trailers on DVD/BD-RE from downloaded trailers. I convert the trailers to BD format using ripbot then import them into multiavchd for the menu. I did a disc in January the DVD worked fine with a Samsung BDP 1500. I have done another disc on both DVD and BD and now the same player does nothing. I saids menu on the player but nothing on the screen and then it stops the disc.

The strange thing is I tried the same discs in a Sony S350 and they all work.

I have a BD-P2500 and as long as the strict avchd box is checked everything plays with no problems.

[strad]

I am getting a error with 604. When I click on a entry in the names editor, I get these two errors. It only happens with DVD folders. Program then quits
The message refers to a wrong path. I suggest you delete multiAVCHD.ini in the program folder and start again. You only will loose your settings, but it should work.
The best way for me in case of errors always was to do a full download of the last build and start clean.

[jsffm]

My last compilation with build 604 works fine on my Samsung BD-P1600.

strict avchd box is not checked.

[deank]

Did you use DVD or BD disc? Because 'strict' option affects only AVCHD for DVD.

A quick note for 604+:

* Fixed some minor bugs which may cause the error nwg reported
* Added "COLOR" for xmb thumbnail border in XMB section of Author tab.
* Extended support for DVR TRP files - most should work now
* Fixed a problem with multiple AAC/MPEG audio tracks in the same mts/trp/etc.. file - sometimes get overwritten or didn't show.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_author.jpg

Dean

[nwg]

The message refers to a wrong path. I suggest you delete multiAVCHD.ini in the program folder and start again. You only will loose your settings, but it should work.
The best way for me in case of errors always was to do a full download of the last build and start clean.

I did start again and it still did it. The new build solves it.

[deank]

Try to update your multiAVCHD with multiUPDATE.
You can remove your .ini file just to be sure it's not it.

And I hope you're not opening DVD from an optical (read only) disc.

[nwg]

Try to update your multiAVCHD with multiUPDATE.
You can remove your .ini file just to be sure it's not it.

And I hope you're not opening DVD from an optical (read only) disc.

No from a folder but as I said, it didn't work when I started again last night with build 603 (so no old ini file).

I just used the update to get 604+

[HDBytes]

Hi Dean

Any way to have no chapters created at all? For example one has a set of titles in a compilation that all run 3-11 min each but you would not want to have a chapter at 5 min in any of the ones that run more than 5 min. I tried the settting of No Chapters but it still creates chapters for each title.

Thanks

[deank]

Carousel is ready.

@HDbytes: I'll have to add an option for that.

[jrp111]

Hi Dean

1) How to import jpg file as background for the movie if I use MPLS to add movie?
2) How to rename subtitle/audio language ID if subtitle/audio embedded in video file?

Thanks

[HDBytes]

Carousel is ready:

Is there anything you can't do! :D ....NICE!

[Atak_Snajpera]

@deank
Why did you modify my idea? Text must be centered. Why did you remove arrows? I gave ready to use script.
It was supposed to be like this
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6451/avcmenu.th.png (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avcmenu.png)

[deank]

It was a beta screenshot...

Text is centered.

Arrows - i can put them back, but they will not be high-lighted when moving left/right... not chapter marker...

I can of course start from scratch and remove the carousel menu. Just be more patient... it is not as easy as creating an avisynth script.

[ahmadka]

Hey guys, whats up ? I got a question about this software ... I'm still a n00b at this stuff, so please bear with me :P

When making a PS3 Compatible AVCHD Disc, is it possible to change the Title of the Disc with multiAVCHD ? I mean, when I insert an AVCHD Disc in my PS3, it just says 'AVCHD' next to the disc icon. Is it possible to change this to a more meaningful name?

Thanx in advance :D

[deank]

No, it is not possible. If you're using BD-R/RE then it can be done, but not with DVD discs.

[deank]

Here is how it looks now:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_CM3.jpg

I need some more time with the navigation and later I'll post the new version. It will require full download or DAT update however.

Dean

[Atak_Snajpera]

It was a beta screenshot...

Text is centered.

Arrows - i can put them back, but they will not be high-lighted when moving left/right... not chapter marker...

I can of course start from scratch and remove the carousel menu. Just be more patient... it is not as easy as creating an avisynth script.
No worries. I hope you did not change anything in my script (values, colors and so on)
BTW. I see no text/time on left side.

Question: Do we really need that info box in right top corner?

[deank]

There is text on the left side now... Infobox is from tmt... once i'm done i'll change the screenshot.

I changed font size, because 60 was too big... + you can't expect it to be 100% as in your script and unmodifiable.

I took your idea about it but if you insist that everything is kept 100% as you suggested, I'd rather do something different and not worry about complaints and stuff. Classic, THM and XMB are good enough for me.

[Atak_Snajpera]

you can't expect it to be 100% as in your script and unmodifiable.
Wouldn't be easier to simply import main template and inject in specific places necessary values?

BTW. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate your work. Maybe I'm too precise but like everything in order.

[HDBytes]

[QUOTE=Atak_Snajpera;1288259]@deank
Why did you modify my idea? Text must be centered. Why did you remove arrows? I gave ready to use script.

Yikes....more than "one cook in the kitchen". :eek: Nice to see the collaboration and brainstorming among talented authors :rolleyes:.

Can't wait to see "whats for dinner" ! :D

[Mtz]

dean, I saw in your screenshot a sample from Xacti camera. This camera cand record also at 60 fps. Files with 60fps are supported?

enjoy,
Mtz

[deank]

Yes, Playstation3 plays it fine after passed thru multiAVCHD.

[kenguru2005]

Classic, THM and XMB are good enough for me.

For me too. I could live with "simple" xmb.

But I love also the way you build this additional carousel thing. I only would suggest, that you stay on "Dean´s rails" ... you do not have to copy/plagiate things from others.

[deank]

Carousel menu with Atak's design is now available in full-download/dat-update - build 605.

It is an initial release, but I think all works.

Dean

[nwg]

Can't wait to try it.

[miloka]

just wanted to confirm that carousel menu works fine for me on ps3.

only waiting for the poster function to come (like in drelin`s star trek screenshot )

thank you very much deank

[nwg]

I think I found a bug. I deleted some entries from the media section and the names editor still show deleted entries. The compilation still processed ok though.

[Atak_Snajpera]

you do not have to copy/plagiate things from others.
He does not plagiate anything! I just offered him help with new menu. I think that this tool deserved something simple and stylish.

[desray]

Thanks Atak for the wonderful carousel menu...been waiting for ages to get it implemented - and of course thanks to deank for making it happen! :) 3 cheers for the both of ya! Great work!

[nwg]

carousel works fine on my Sony S350. Is it possible to select a chapter from the bottom of the screen? Is that the "working on navigation" that you were talking about?

[johns0]

When i make use my own bmp image in build 605 for the carousel menu i get a black/grey bg with AVCHD on top of the menu,any way i can get my own image to work?Tried 3 different times.

[deank]

I think I found a bug. I deleted some entries from the media section and the names editor still show deleted entries. The compilation still processed ok though.

I haven't seen this happen in a long time.

carousel works fine on my Sony S350. Is it possible to select a chapter from the bottom of the screen? Is that the "working on navigation" that you were talking about?

Use UP/DOWN to go to chapters. A small arrow will appear in the bottom of the screen.

When i make use my own bmp image in build 605 for the carousel menu i get a black/grey bg with AVCHD on top of the menu,any way i can get my own image to work?Tried 3 different times.

CM is not configurable (yet).

[deank]

Build 606:

Two options added in Author tab:

[x] Use custom background for carousel menu
[x] No reflections for carousel menu

1st option will allow you to make multiAVCHD use the background image, selected in Menu tab.

2nd option disables reflections - useful with custom background (speeds up menu generation about 5 to 10 times)

Headline, Footer and [x] Show build and time in footer now apply to carousel menu, too.

Dean

[nwg]

Use UP/DOWN to go to chapters. A small arrow will appear in the bottom of the screen.



Already tried that nothing happened.

[deank]

Probably you don't see it... (if you have chapters, of course). It works.

Check the value for IG opacity in Menu tab.

Carousel is now finalized:
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_CM3.jpg

[Kurtnoise]

Hey Deank,

An issue w/ the last build, I've noticed:

http://uppix.net/8/4/6/1489057ad30dde7473ae6b9bf48d9t.jpg (http://uppix.net/8/4/6/1489057ad30dde7473ae6b9bf48d9.html) http://uppix.net/b/3/3/87069db02d5b359593c0999d2c416t.jpg (http://uppix.net/b/3/3/87069db02d5b359593c0999d2c416.html)

my 1st file is listed twice in the list...


and my video streams are clearly not MPEG-2...
http://uppix.net/9/8/a/ba751318e555fbef35057caf21665t.jpg (http://uppix.net/9/8/a/ba751318e555fbef35057caf21665.html)
General
Complete name : C:\Video\Séries\24 - Saison 7\24 S07E01.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 347 MiB
Duration : 45mn 33s
Overall bit rate : 1 063 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-05-22 10:54:54
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.7.0 ('Do It Again') built on Apr 15 2009 00:27:10
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Streaming Video@L1
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 45mn 31s
Bit rate : 911 Kbps
Width : 624 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.173
Stream size : 297 MiB (86%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

[deank]

Try to use standard ASCII characters for your folders.
I see that ep3 name is replaced with ep1 name - but probably not the content itself. You can check in Title Properties.

You're not seriously expecting that XviD/DivX will work, are you?

[Kurtnoise]

Try to use standard ASCII characters for your folders.
I see that ep3 name is replaced with ep1 name - but probably not the content itself. You can check in Title Properties.
mmh...right.

You're not seriously expecting that XviD/DivX will work, are you?
no..it was just to have previews from menus. :cool:

[deank]

I updated multiAVCHD to report "Unsupported" in Title properties if video is not supported.

[maxb1]

Carousel menu looks really stylish!

Is there any chance playing a audio file in the background as long as menus are shown?

greetings
maxb1

[deank]

Build 606+:

* Added: support for AVI files, containing AVC/H.264 video and one AC3 audio (only in this combination)
* Fixed: sometimes missing "hour" digit in CAR duration display

Dean

[jbeale]

I would like to make a AVCHD disk from some HDV files from my camcorder. These have the extension .m2t and they are (I think) transport streams having 25 Mbps MPEG2 (1080i) and 384 kbps Mpeg 1 Layer 2 audio.

I was not able to load in the HDV file (not a recognized file extension, I guess). I could load it, if I just renamed it to .ts instead of .m2t.

The final disc worked ok for video, but there was no audio with the movie (silent). Eac3to apparently failed to convert the audio, is there any way to get this to work?

[08:11:08] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 606)
(...)
[08:11:13] Detected video: ID#2064:V_MPEG-2 1440x1080, fps=29.970
[08:11:13] Detected display AR: 1920x1080 (AR:1.78)
[08:11:13] Track#2068 delay: 73ms
[08:11:13] Track has 2 channels.
[08:11:13] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[08:11:27] eac3to refused to convert audio!

Here is the EAC3TO log file:

eac3to v3.16
command line: "H:\Video-Software\AVCHD\eac3to316\eac3to.exe" "H:\DL\JCC-April26-2009\JCC-T2-2009_04_26-15_31_46.ts" 2: "c:\_temp\jcc-t2-2009_04_26-15_31_46.ts.t2.ac3" -384
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 0:03:14, 60i /1.001
1: MPEG2, 1440x1080 60i /1.001 (16:9)
2: E-AC3, unknown parameters
3: MP2, 2.0 channels, 384kbps, 48khz, 1ms
Bitstream parsing for track 2 failed. <WARNING>
Demuxing this track may still produce correct results - or not. <WARNING>
[a02] Extracting audio track number 2...
Video track 1 contains 5819 frames.
eac3to processing took 8 seconds.
Done
----------

EDIT: Ok, maybe Eac3to does not recognize Mpeg1 Layer2 audio. (I thought HDV was a common format?) So is there any way to make this work?

[deank]

Why don't you rename it to .m2ts and try again? You can try to rename it to .trp, too

[Mtz]

Here (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ktzc52) is another TS sample with problems. Have 2 audio (AC3 and MP2) and 2 subtitles (one teletext type and one DVB subtitle). Please test it. VLC cand display both audio and both subtitles.

Log:
[17:27:37] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 606)

[17:27:37] Current output mode will include
[17:27:37] maximum of 252 titles.

[17:27:37] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[17:27:37] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[17:27:37] Processing (P:\Tests\Records\CanalPlus\CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles.ts)...
[17:27:38] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[17:27:38] Detected video: ID#360:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[17:27:38] Track#380 delay: -706ms
[17:27:38] Track has 2 channels.
[17:27:38] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[17:27:45] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[17:27:45] Track#381 delay: -686ms
[17:27:45] Track has 2 channels.
[17:27:45] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#381)
[17:27:45] Total of 4 tracks found in this file.
[17:27:45] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[17:27:45] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[17:27:45] Inserting auto chapters...
[17:27:45] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[17:27:46] Important files missing (clpi/mpls/m2ts)...
[17:27:46] Possible tsMuxer failure to process your input file (P:\Tests\Records\CanalPlus\CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles.ts).
[17:27:46] M2TS (media) file count: 1
[17:27:46] CLPI (clipinfo) file count: 0
[17:27:46] MPLS (playlist) file count: 0
[17:27:46] Processing playlist files...
[17:27:46] Preparing authoring information...
[17:27:46] Top menu skipped. Playback will start from Title#1.
[17:27:46] Setting menu for 0 titles...
[17:27:46] STOP command after title #0 inserted.
[17:27:46] Forced sequential playback from Title#1 forward.
[17:27:46] Completed.
[17:27:46] Done!
[17:27:46] 1 other warnings/errors!
[17:27:46] E:\AVCHD folder created!
[17:27:46] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD-R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[17:27:46] You may now remove temp folder (D:\Temp\).
[17:27:46] Your compilation contains 0hrs 0min 0sec of video material.

[17:27:46] multiAVCHD finished in 9 seconds (00:00:09)!

[17:27:46] End of log.


Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)... (?)

Extracted subs from TS with ProjectX have some strange grey color, but this is another discussion. Will be nice if always the muxed subtitle is white with black outline when strange color appears.

enjoy,
Mtz

[deank]

It works just fine if imported as .TRP:

[19:24:30] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 606)

[19:24:30] Current output mode will include
[19:24:30] maximum of 252 titles.

[19:24:30] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[19:24:30] Processing (C:\Users\Dean Kasabow\Desktop\SD_TEST\DVR-TRP\TS\CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles.trp)...
[19:24:32] Demuxing video from TRP container...
[19:24:49] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[19:24:49] Detected video: ID#360:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[19:24:49] Track#380 delay: -706ms
[19:24:49] Track has 2 channels.
[19:24:49] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[19:24:58] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[19:24:58] Track#381 delay: -686ms
[19:24:58] Track has 2 channels.
[19:24:58] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[19:25:06] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[19:25:06] Total of 4 tracks found in this file.
[19:25:06] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[19:25:06] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[19:25:06] Inserting auto chapters...
[19:25:06] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[19:25:29] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[19:25:29] Processing playlist files...
[19:25:29] Title added: "CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles trp"

[19:25:32] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:00:46;00:01:32;00:02:19;
[19:25:32] Preparing authoring information...
[19:25:32] Top menu skipped. Playback will start from Title#1.
[19:25:32] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[19:25:32] STOP command after title #1 inserted.
[19:25:32] Forced sequential playback from Title#1 forward.
[19:25:32] Setting menu properties...
[19:25:32] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[19:25:32] Completed.
[19:25:33] Renaming files to FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[19:25:33] Done!
[19:25:34] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_TS TRP TEST folder created!
[19:25:34] Rename D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_TS TRP TEST to AVCHD and copy it to root of USB drive or USB disk.
[19:25:34] Deleting only files in temp folder (D:\_TEMP\)...
[19:25:34] You may now remove temp folder (D:\_TEMP\).
[19:25:34] Your compilation contains 0hrs 3min 51sec of video material.

[19:25:34] multiAVCHD finished in 63 seconds (00:01:03)!

[19:25:34] End of log.

[deank]

@Mtz: I just tried ALL samples that you've sent the other day.

Now ALL work with perfect audio-sync, but two things are necessary:

1) Rename .ts to .trp (if it is a DVR recording)
2) Use tsMuxeR 1.9.9 - the one included in multiAVCHD since build 602 - just do a FULL download to be sure you have my configuration.

tsMuxeR 1.10.x has problems with .ts and subtitles in some 25fps videos.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_trps.jpg

The only one with problems is the 'eurovision' capture, but it is a bad cut anyway.

Dean

[benchmarkjoe]

Hi Deank, excellence software. Today I tested the MKV video and burned to dvd and it works with my panasonic bd-60. My mistake before was not let the ImgBurn to select file to burn before. One thing left is the subtitle is not show up on the screen. I have SRT file with the same name as video file (I checked to Add SRT subtitle on the same directory with the MKV video).
Help what I did wrong that the subtitle didn't show.

[multismo]

Hi Dean,

thank you for your great work!

I did some tests with importing playlists of the main movie. I checked the box at 'keep all audio tracks', because I want the german track (which is not always the first). The result is quite big.

So, in the first step I use tsmuxer to extract the main movie and the wanted german audio track. The result is imported in muliAVCHD and I got a much smaller (less 5-7GB) output.
Tsmuxer is already used by multiAVCHD, so I wonder if there is a posibility to extract only certain audio tracks within multiAVCHD, so that I get a smaller output and omit the first step.

multismo

[deank]

...the subtitle is not show up on the screen.

1) Check "Offset" it Muxer tab.
2) Make sure you're using latest multiAVCHD with tsmuxer 1.9.9 (NOT a later version!)

So, in the first step I use tsmuxer to extract the main movie and the wanted german audio track.

Tsmuxer is already used by multiAVCHD, so I wonder if there is a posibility to extract only certain audio tracks within multiAVCHD, so that I get a smaller output and omit the first step.

Not at the moment. Once I implement all things I want in "Title properties" you'll be able to select individual audio tracks to be kept, and also subtitle streams.

Dean

[deank]

Build 607:

You can now use all XMB customizations for Carousel, too (if you have [x] Use custom background for carousel menu checked):

(If you're using custom background it may be a good idea to disable reflections with [x] No reflections for carousel menu - as in screenshots below)

* Background transparency
* Greyscale background
* Smart line message

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_CM4.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_CM5.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiavchd_CM6.jpg

Dean

[Mtz]

Nice. I just tried some clips, changed the TS extension to TRP. This is the log:
[20:40:18] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 606)

[20:40:18] Current output mode will include
[20:40:18] maximum of 252 titles.

[20:40:18] Processing 5 input files/folders.
[20:40:18] Processing (P:\Tests\Records\BBC HD 11a55b3a\BBC HD 11a55b3a.trp)...
[20:40:20] Demuxing video from TRP container...
[20:40:32] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[20:40:32] Detected video: ID#516:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[20:40:32] Track#656 delay: -558ms
[20:40:32] Track has 6 channels.
[20:40:32] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[20:40:39] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[20:40:39] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[20:40:39] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[20:40:39] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[20:40:39] Inserting auto chapters...
[20:40:39] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[20:40:48] Processing playlist files...
[20:40:48] Title added: "BBC HD 11a55b3a trp"

[20:40:49] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:00:19;00:00:38;00:00:57;
[20:40:49] Processing (P:\Tests\Records\CanalPlus\CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles.trp)...
[20:40:50] Demuxing video from TRP container...
[20:41:08] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[20:41:08] Detected video: ID#360:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[20:41:08] Track#380 delay: -706ms
[20:41:08] Track has 2 channels.
[20:41:08] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[20:41:16] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[20:41:16] Track#381 delay: -686ms
[20:41:16] Track has 2 channels.
[20:41:16] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[20:41:22] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[20:41:22] Total of 4 tracks found in this file.
[20:41:22] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[20:41:22] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[20:41:22] Inserting auto chapters...
[20:41:22] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[20:41:39] Processing playlist files...
[20:41:39] Title added: "CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles trp"

[20:41:40] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:00:46;00:01:32;00:02:19;
[20:41:40] Processing (P:\Tests\Records\DiscoveryNL\Discovery HD - What's That About.trp)...
[20:41:41] Demuxing video from TRP container...
[20:41:47] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[20:41:47] Detected video: ID#512:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[20:41:47] Track#80 delay: -1395ms
[20:41:47] Track has 6 channels.
[20:41:47] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[20:41:50] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[20:41:50] Total of 4 tracks found in this file.
[20:41:50] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[20:41:50] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[20:41:50] Inserting auto chapters...
[20:41:50] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[20:41:54] Processing playlist files...
[20:41:54] Title added: "Discovery HD - What`s That About trp"

[20:41:55] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:00:18;00:00:36;00:00:54;
[20:41:55] Processing (P:\Tests\Records\History Chnl HD 11a55a06\History Chnl HD 11a55a06.trp)...
[20:41:57] Demuxing video from TRP container...
[20:42:25] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[20:42:25] Detected video: ID#514:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[20:42:25] Track#648 delay: -775ms
[20:42:25] Track has 2 channels.
[20:42:25] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[20:42:33] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[20:42:33] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[20:42:33] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[20:42:33] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[20:42:33] Inserting auto chapters...
[20:42:33] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[20:42:57] Processing playlist files...
[20:42:57] Title added: "History Chnl HD 11a55a06 trp"

[20:42:59] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:00:45;00:01:31;00:02:16;
[20:42:59] Processing (P:\Tests\Records\HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles\HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.trp)...
[20:43:00] Demuxing video from TRP container...
[20:43:11] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[20:43:11] Detected video: ID#514:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[20:43:11] Track#648 delay: -639ms
[20:43:11] Track has 2 channels.
[20:43:11] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[20:43:15] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[20:43:15] Track#649 delay: -463ms
[20:43:15] Track has 2 channels.
[20:43:15] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[20:43:19] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[20:43:19] Track#650 delay: -629ms
[20:43:19] Track has 2 channels.
[20:43:19] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[20:43:23] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[20:43:23] Track#651 delay: -548ms
[20:43:23] Track has 2 channels.
[20:43:23] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[20:43:27] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[20:43:27] Total of 13 tracks found in this file.
[20:43:27] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[20:43:27] M2TS stream split set at 3999MiB...
[20:43:27] Inserting auto chapters...
[20:43:27] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[20:43:34] Processing playlist files...
[20:43:34] Title added: "HistoryHD 4-audio 8-subtitles trp"

[20:43:36] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:00:14;00:00:28;00:00:42;
[20:43:36] Preparing authoring information...
[20:43:36] Creating PAL top menu.
[20:43:36] Authoring menu (PAL).
[20:43:43] Creating menu backgrounds for 5 titles (CAR)...
[20:43:43] Trying to use Directshow first...
[20:46:15] Creating video backgrounds for CAR menu completed.
[20:49:34] Authoring custom menu completed.
[20:49:35] Setting menu for 5 titles...
[20:49:35] STOP command after title #5 inserted.
[20:49:35] Completed.
[20:49:35] Setting Blu-ray format...
[20:49:35] Done!
[20:49:35] E:\AVCHD folder created!
[20:49:35] Burn its CONTENTS to BD-R/RE UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[20:49:35] You may now remove temp folder (D:\Temp\).
[20:49:35] Your compilation contains 0hrs 11min 58sec of video material.

[20:49:35] multiAVCHD finished in 556 seconds (00:09:16)!

[20:49:35] End of log.

Two videos supposed to have subtitles:
CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles.trp
CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles.sup

HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.trp
HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.dut.sup
HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.eng.sup
HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.fin.sup
HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.ger.sup
HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.nor.sup
HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.rum.sup
HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.rus.sup
HistoryHD_4-audio_8-subtitles.sve.sup

I checked Add external srt/sup subtitles, but I see no subtitle.
tsmuxer 1.9.9 used.

enjoy,
Mtz

[pel0quin]

Hi Dean, great app... one question, when converting to PS3 compatable the files sizes dont split to 4 gig for fat32 or am I missing something...

Cheers

Pel

[Atak_Snajpera]

* Background transparency
* Greyscale background
* Smart line message


Those options destroy whole carousel idea. Reflections emulate shiny surface so covers do not look like flying objects in air. background image emulates wall. Can't you see that Carousel with custom background looks like garbage. If user don't like black color I can create brighter alternative version. Also I don't like footer enabled by default. Used font does not fit to whole concept.
Sorry but I had to say that. I can not watch when good project is being destroyed by stupid features!

[schlaufer]

Sorry but I had to say that. I can not watch when good project is being destroyed by stupid features!

BTW. I see no information who was behind carousel idea.

If you are that proud of your marvellous carousel design, why didn't you implemented it by yourself?

Sorry, Atak: "De gustibo non disputandum", but there is a common sense about attitude - and yours is beyond the latter.

@dean: thanks for your great work again.

[Atak_Snajpera]

If you are that proud of your marvellous carousel design, why didn't you implemented it by yourself?
I did implement my idea! First concept was made in Corel PhotoPaint.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1260806#post1260806
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1261718#post1261718

Then I managed to port whole idea into avisynth script! Deank got everything ready on plate.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1265445#post1265445

[benchmarkjoe]

[QUOTE=deank;1288658]1) Check "Offset" it Muxer tab.
2) Make sure you're using latest multiAVCHD with tsmuxer 1.9.9 (NOT a later version!)

Hi Deank, I leave the defaul on the Muxer tab. And I used the lastest multiAVCHD v2.7 (built 606)

[deank]

Nice. I just tried some clips, changed the TS extension to TRP. Two videos supposed to have subtitles:

CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles.trp
CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles.sup
I checked Add external srt/sup subtitles, but I see no subtitle.
tsmuxer 1.9.9 used.


I need to add subtitle support for TRP import. I'll look into it later

Dean, one question - when converting to PS3 compatable the files sizes dont split to 4 gig for fat32 or am I missing something...

You're missing something. Files split. If you import AVCHD folders in m2ts-join-mode they split.

Those options destroy whole carousel idea.

I don't like footer enabled by default. Used font does not fit to whole concept.

I can not watch when good project is being destroyed by stupid features!

1) You can disable footer in just one click of the mouse. You can change footer font in another click.

2) All "Carousel" options by default produce exactly your design. It is up to the user to decide either to keep it or not.

3) When people request features and I decide to add them in multiAVCHD I'd rather not qualify them as "stupid". A "feature" is something that can be used or not but still available to user's choice.

multiAVCHD is a program not for you and not for me only.

Please do not insult me or the people, who contributed to this project for the last half year. If one day you add this menu-style to RipBot, I'll remove it from multiAVCHD. But for now, after 100 hours of implementing it I don't think of removing it just because you want it kept 100% unmodifiable.


Hi Deank, I leave the default on the Muxer tab. And I used the lastest multiAVCHD v2.7 (built 606)

Download the FULL SETUP (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download.php), not just the updated .exe.

****

Build 607+:

* Preview for CAR menu is available
* Preview for XMB menu now shows bordered thumbs if option is used

Dean

[deank]

I did implement my idea! First concept was made in Corel PhotoPaint.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1260806#post1260806
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1261718#post1261718

Then I managed to port whole idea into avisynth script! Deank got everything ready on plate.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1265445#post1265445

You must be aware that a 'concept' of something and a 'realization' of something are two different things.

Importing your avisynth script in multiAVCHD took 1 hour. Making multiAVCHD use it took 30 hours and then another 30 hours to make a functional carousel menu.

I do not belittle your contribution, but please appreciate mine.

Dean

[pel0quin]

You're missing something. Files split. If you import AVCHD folders in m2ts-join-mode they split.

Dean

Hi dean, I have tried to import a 8 gig AVCHD file and the file is not split, this is happened on every occasion...

Thanks

[deank]

Explain to me what you're doing and I'll help you.

What is "AVCHD file"?

Do you add a folder or a single file?

[pel0quin]

Explain to me what you're doing and I'll help you.

What is "AVCHD file"?

Do you add a folder or a single file?

I drag AVCHD_old, then add a BDMV folder and import the play list, the input file is 8 gig in length and the output file is the same

hope that helps

[Atak_Snajpera]

3) When people request features and I decide to add them in multiAVCHD I'd rather not qualify them as "stupid". A "feature" is something that can be used or not but still available to user's choice.

When you implement something you should always ask yourself if it's really worth it? You decided to add options which only destroy main idea and it also causes GUI to look less user friendly (options , options , options ...). You don't have to do everything only because some user was crying. Over and out. (for now)

I do not belittle your contribution, but please appreciate mine.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1288305#post1288305

multiAVCHD is a program not for you and not for me only.

Sometimes I forget :)

Who wants grey alternative?
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8343/new1y.th.png (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1y.png)

[deank]

@pel0quin:

So you're adding a folder, not a file.

1) Enable [x] Prompt to import playlists in Settings tab
2) Your imported folder should have ALL files in long name format - 00000.m2ts 00000.cpi 00000.mpls - otherwise it won't work if you're using tsMuxeR 1.9.9
3) When you drag BDMV folder into multiAVCHD and get the prompt "Import individual playlists..." answer with "ok" and select the playlist you need (or all).

You will see your playlist in Media Tab marked as [p] or [f].

@Atak_Snajpera:

Yes, GUI is not as user-friendly as I'd like it to be. When I find time I'll redesign it. It's not a priority right now. Users' requests for things made multiAVCHD what it is now, no matter how the GUI looks. I've seen much-much-much worse looking applications.

[pel0quin]

@pel0quin:

So you're adding a folder, not a file.

1) Enable [x] Prompt to import playlists in Settings tab
2) Your imported folder should have ALL files in long name format - 00000.m2ts 00000.cpi 00000.mpls - otherwise it won't work if you're using tsMuxeR 1.9.9
3) When you drag BDMV folder into multiAVCHD and get the prompt "Import individual playlists..." answer with "ok" and select the playlist you need (or all).

You will see your playlist in Media Tab marked as [p] or [f].


Thanks for that, I am using all the settings that you have said as above, my guess is that it will be the file names then, I will try to add the larger files and see what happens... thanks for clarifing as I was starting to think I was going nutty...

[benchmarkjoe]

Download the FULL SETUP (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/download.php), not just the updated .exe.

****

Build 607+:

* Preview for CAR menu is available
* Preview for XMB menu now shows bordered thumbs if option is used

Dean[/QUOTE]

Dear Deank, thanks you for very fast response.

[nicchap]

As as developper myself, I tend to avoid "creative blockage" created by others. Atak_Snajpera has definetely helped out in creating the Carousel menuing system, but as far as I am concerned, is no longer contributing positively. Continue on with "your" excellent creative ideas Dean!

@Atak_Snajpera: Please give up your stronghold on your initial idea. I totally appreciate it, but your communication style is quite, how do we say, not very open and downright annoying. Otherwise, write your own, or change your style.

Enough said, let's carry on.

Nic.

[drpaulng]

When you implement something you should always ask yourself if it's really worth it? You decided to add options which only destroy main idea and it also causes GUI to look less user friendly (options , options , options ...). You don't have to do everything only because some user was crying. Over and out. (for now)


http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1288305#post1288305


Sometimes I forget :)

Who wants grey alternative?
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8343/new1y.th.png (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1y.png)

I want the gray alternative. Would some of the user-designers upload some basic background pictures in 1920x1080 for whomever who wants to use them? I am wearing clothes designed by whoever who I don't know. Just choose your own, dating back 1000 years, maybe I'd have my own design because of unavailability. Thanks Atak!

Edit: By the way, I think Atak is trying to perfect multiAVCHD in some way. It is good to have different combinations. 2 colored T-shirts match with 2 colored pants could make 4 combination of matches...but you may be half-naked too. It's good to have variations and choose your own need.

[jbeale]

Why don't you rename it to .m2ts and try again? You can try to rename it to .trp, too

I renamed my HDV .m2t file to .m2ts but I got the same error, eac3to refused to convert audio. Below is the eac3to log, same error as before. It says "unknown parameters", is multiAVCHD sending a bad parameter string to eac3to ?

eac3to v3.16
command line: "H:\Video-Software\AVCHD\eac3to316\eac3to.exe" "H:\DL\JCC-April26-2009\JCC-T2-2009_04_26-15_31_46.m2ts" 2: "c:\_temp\jcc-t2-2009_04_26-15_31_46.m2ts.t2.ac3" -384
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 0:03:14, 60i /1.001
1: MPEG2, 1440x1080 60i /1.001 (16:9)
2: E-AC3, unknown parameters
3: MP2, 2.0 channels, 384kbps, 48khz, 1ms
Bitstream parsing for track 2 failed. <WARNING>
Demuxing this track may still produce correct results - or not. <WARNING>
[a02] Extracting audio track number 2...
Video track 1 contains 5819 frames.
eac3to processing took 8 seconds.
Done.

[jbeale]

So I've tried renaming my HDV camcorder video from the original .m2t to .ts, .m2ts and .trp and made three separate AVCHD discs. When renaming to .ts or .trp, I get a disk that plays ok in my PS3 except that there is no audio track (as you'd expect from the error message during compilation). When renaming to .m2ts, not only is there no audio, but also the menu thumbnail shows random colored blocks instead of video, and no video can be played (although that time I also tried a different menu style, "carousel" instead of XMB so that may make a difference too).

I'm thinking there must be something simple to get my Mpeg1 Layer2 audio out of my HDV file and converted to AC3. Has no one has tried to do this before? If I provide a short sample .m2t file for download, would that help? I'd really love for this to work, seems like I'm so close...

I have other ways to author AVCHD but they require re-encoding the video which is very slow, and unnecessary since it's already playable in the PS3. multiAVCHD would be just about perfect if I got the audio working.

[jbeale]

Ok, it looks like eac3to for some reason believes I have three tracks in my HDV program stream, it's trying to extract audio from the second track (which is who knows what, I'm not sure it's real anyway). The real audio is what eac3to is calling the third track, and when I modified the command string as below, it appears to work, and generates an .ac3 file that Nero Showtime can play ok.

C:\>"eac3to.exe" "H:\DL\Test1.ts" 3: "c:\_temp\Test1.ts.t3.ac3" -384
TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 0:03:14, 60i /1.001
1: MPEG2, 1440x1080 60i /1.001 (16:9)
2: E-AC3, unknown parameters
3: MP2, 2.0 channels, 384kbps, 48khz, 1ms
Bitstream parsing for track 2 failed.
Demuxing this track may still produce correct results - or not.
a03 Extracting audio track number 3...
a03 Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
a03 Applying RAW/PCM delay...
a03 Encoding AC3 <384kbps> with libAften...
a03 Creating file "c:\_temp\Test1.ts.t3.ac3"...
Video track 1 contains 5819 frames.
eac3to processing took 14 seconds.
Done.

UPDATE: All my tests had been using raw .m2t files direct from my Sony HDR-FX1 camcorder (captured by the freeware HDVSplit program). I just tried using some .m2t files which had been edited and written out by Sony Vegas 8, and they work OK! (after changing the extension to .ts as before). Specifically, eac3to recognizes them has having only two tracks; video and audio, and selects the correct (audio) track to convert.

eac3to v3.16
command line: "eac3to.exe" "H:\test2.ts" 2: "c:\_temp\test2.ts.t2.ac3" -384
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 0:00:30, 60i /1.001
1: MPEG2, 1440x1080 60i /1.001 (16:9)
2: MP2, 2.0 channels, 224kbps, 48khz
[a02] Extracting audio track number 2...
[a02] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a02] Encoding AC3 <384kbps> with libAften...
[a02] Creating file "c:\_temp\test2.ts.t2.ac3"...
Video track 1 contains 892 frames.
eac3to processing took 2 seconds.
Done.

So with some .m2t files, eac3to should to use track 3 as audio (raw camera HDV files), and some use track 2 (rendered HDV from editor). Is there some way to (1) recognize the .m2t file extension as a .ts filetype, and (2) get eac3to to automatically just use the first track found which is a recognizable audio track? Or add all valid audio tracks? Or at least, not select out the one track which is not valid audio?

[drpaulng]

@jbeale

.ts and m2ts(mts) are not the same, 192 byte vs 188 byte packet size:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream

read down the lines and you'll find the following passage:
Random-access based systems may save data packets into a temporary buffer if a storage device is not ready, for example on device startup. Packets are written out of order, and to keep track of them, a 4-byte timecode (TC) is added to standard 188-byte packets. The result is a 192-byte packet. This is what is informally called M2TS stream. Sony calls it "BDAV MPEG-2 transport stream". JVC calls it TOD (possibly an abbreviation for "Transport stream on disc") when used in HDD-based camcorders like GZ-HD7.[8] M2TS transport stream is also used for AVCHD video files, which often have MTS extension.

upload your original sample 4MB, small size, We are interested to see if it has 2 audio tracks???

[jbeale]

upload your original sample 4MB, small size, We are interested to see if it has 2 audio tracks???

Thanks for your help, I did not know about the packet sizes.

I put a very small HDV clip, about 3.5 MB (1 second long) on my web page here, please have a look and see what you think.

http://www.bealecorner.com/D30/misc/HDV-test-2009_05_22-20_36_19.m2t
(http://www.bealecorner.com/D30/misc/HDV-test-2009_05_22-20_36_19.m2t)

If I try to use it (after changing the name to foo.ts) eac3to refuses to convert as usual, and the log file gives the usual report about this clip:

TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 0:00:01
1: MPEG2, unknown parameters
2: E-AC3, unknown parameters
3: MP2, 2.0 channels, 384kbps, 48khz, 13ms

[johns0]

Run the m2t file thru tmpgenc demultiplexer and then multiplex it back to mpg,it will then be accepted.

[jbeale]

Run the m2t file thru tmpgenc demultiplexer and then multiplex it back to mpg,it will then be accepted.

Appreciate the help, I did not realize that. Ideally it would be nice if the program could accept it directly, though.

[johns0]

Glad to help,looks like sony uses its own proprietary container for hd mpeg2 files,that way you gotta use their own software to author and edit until you found better ways.

[jbeale]

looks like sony uses its own proprietary container for hd mpeg2 files,that way you gotta use their own software to author and edit until you found better ways.

Possibly, although multiAVCHD is the first HD-capable software I have found that does not work with my HDV files. Almost all my other editing, authoring and viewing programs work ok with it, maybe there is one that doesn't. Hopefully there is some simple way to make multiAVCHD compatible also?

[munkcow]

Love your program!

Is there a way I can set(force) the ms audio delay for each individual file?
Tsmuxer doesn't always accurately detect the delay on my 1080i mpeg2.ts files:(

Thanks!

[deank]

I put a very small HDV clip, about 3.5 MB (1 second long) on my web page here, please have a look and see what you think.

If I try to use it (after changing the name to foo.ts) eac3to refuses to convert as usual, and the log file gives the usual report about this clip...


Extracted subs from...


[10:36:10] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 607)

[10:36:10] Current output mode will include
[10:36:10] maximum of 252 titles.

[10:36:10] Processing 2 input files/folders.
[10:36:10] Processing (C:\Users\Dean Kasabow\Desktop\SD_TEST\DVR-TRP\TVR HD @11a200fc.trp)...
[10:36:11] Demuxing video from TRP container...
[10:36:20] Detected frame reference count: 4 (max:4).
[10:36:20] Detected video: ID#1510:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=25.000, ref=4
[10:36:20] Track#1500 delay: -564ms
[10:36:20] Track has 2 channels.
[10:36:20] Encoding TRP audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[10:36:25] Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[10:36:25] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[10:36:25] Adding subtitles (TVR HD @11a200fc.srt) (und)
[10:36:25] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[10:36:25] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[10:36:25] Inserting auto chapters...
[10:36:25] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[10:36:35] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[10:36:35] Processing playlist files...
[10:36:35] Title added: "TVR HD @11a200fc trp"

[10:36:37] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:00:16;00:00:32;00:00:49;
[10:36:37] Processing (C:\Users\Dean Kasabow\Desktop\SD_TEST\DVR-TRP\HDV-test-2009_05_22-20_36_19.ts)...
[10:36:38] Detected video: ID#2064:V_MPEG-2 1440x1080, fps=29.970
[10:36:38] Detected display AR: 1920x1080 (AR:1.78)
[10:36:38] Track#2068 delay: 85ms
[10:36:38] Track has 2 channels.
[10:36:38] Encoding MPEG audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[10:36:39] eac3to refused to convert audio!
[10:36:39] Trying to demux it...
[10:36:39] Encoding to AC3 (second try)...
[10:36:40] Second try succeeded! Adding AC3 encoded audio track...
[10:36:40] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[10:36:40] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[10:36:40] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[10:36:40] Inserting auto chapters...
[10:36:40] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[10:36:41] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00001.m2ts
[10:36:41] Processing playlist files...
[10:36:41] Title added: "HDV-test-2009 05 22-20 36 19"

[10:36:41] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:00:00;00:00:00;00:00:00;
[10:36:41] Preparing authoring information...
[10:36:41] Top menu skipped. Playback will start from Title#1.
[10:36:41] Setting menu for 2 titles...
[10:36:41] STOP command after title #2 inserted.
[10:36:41] Forced sequential playback from Title#1 forward.
[10:36:41] Setting menu properties...
[10:36:41] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[10:36:41] Completed.
[10:36:41] Renaming files to FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[10:36:41] Done!
[10:36:43] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_TS TRP TEST folder created!
[10:36:43] Rename D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_TS TRP TEST to AVCHD and copy it to root of USB drive or USB disk.
[10:36:43] Deleting only files in temp folder (D:\_TEMP\)...
[10:36:43] You may now remove temp folder (D:\_TEMP\).
[10:36:43] Your compilation contains 0hrs 3min 26sec of video material.

[10:36:43] multiAVCHD finished in 32 seconds (00:00:32)!

[10:36:43] End of log.


Update your multiAVCHD.

* Added support for external subtitles for TRP files
* Added second try for MPEG audio for TS/M2TS/TRP processing

Dean

@munkcow: multiAVCHD does not use tsMuxeR for audio delay detection, but mediainfo. No, you can't put your own values at this time. If there is a serious async - try to parse the file again, but rename it to .trp.

[deank]

...multiAVCHD is the first HD-capable software I have found that does not work with my HDV files. Almost all my other editing, authoring and viewing programs work ok with it, maybe there is one that doesn't. Hopefully there is some simple way to make multiAVCHD compatible also?

Update to 607+ and let me know if it works now. There is no line of comparison between multiAVCHD and all-your-other-editing-authoring-viewing programs.

You can now load your .M2T files without renaming them. If it still doesn't work - rename them to .ts and give it a try.

Dean

[kenguru2005]

Before I disappear to a congress for 5 days I would like to mention one more thing. This peace of software does support such a variety of formats, does offer such I nice choice of different menus. Of course mirror effect and such things are nice to look at ... but hey: who cares.

http://home.arcor.de/dhc69/pic/car01.png

[Atak_Snajpera]

Of course mirror effect and such things are nice to look at ... but hey: who cares.
We have saying in Poland. "Everything must have arms and legs" I hope you know what I mean.

[kenguru2005]

We have saying in Poland. "Everything must have arms and legs" I hope you know what I mean.

I know I know .... but to get some basic life you need at least some heart, brain, liver, kidney ....

And as we say in Germany: "Schönheit kommt von Innen" (Beauty comes from inside)

[strad]

hello Dean,
probably I missed something during the discussion: the "add chapter" button in Title properties is not yet active?

[tkamp]

Hi Dean,

I just made a compilation with a DVD, where I told it to use thumbnail at 28 sec.
But multiAVCHD used thumbnail at 38 sec.
The DVD is 25fps.

Is there an explanation for this, or am I doing something wrong...

[Mtz]

* Added support for external subtitles for TRP files
* Added second try for MPEG audio for TS/M2TS/TRP processing

Nice. Thank you.
But seems the audio delay is not OK on the same files I sent to you for test.
Another thing: I was trying to mux the SUP exported from bdsup2sub from the CANAL PLus 2 Audio 2 subtitles.trp and I see no subtitle in MPCHC.
In the future is hard for me to test TRP files becaus I have no surce. Maybe some users will join the thread with more samples.
Regarding TRP and subtitles maybe someday will be possible to extract them (closed captions as teletext type or DVB Subtitles type), resize to the video resolution with bdsup2sub and finally mux them. eac3to can detect the DVB Subtitles but cannot extract them. Maybe madshi will add this feature and the author of bdsup2sup will import them. For teletext subtitles the only option I know is CCExtractor, but when inside the TS is another DVB Subtitle, CCE cannot extract.

Regarding the carousel menu (which looks great), from the screenhots the only thing is not nice are the grey arrows(buttons). Maybe some 3D black button with white will be nicer.

Regarding the guy, can you add some baloon description for what is the "Change first srt timmimg" option?

Regarding playback, the TRP files tested are not working with ffdshow, but OK with coreavc.

enjoy,
Mtz

[v_o_r_t_e_x]

Maybe somebody else already noticed: Dean's tool has been mentioned in the very popular german magazin "c'T - magazin für computer technik". :thanks:

[strad]

Thanks for the hint!
It´s not just popular but also the computer magazin with highest reputation over here. The mentioned article will be in the next volume published on Monday. Maybe I get it already round the corner....

[deank]

That's nice :) really.

I created my own SLIDE menu:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SL1.jpg

Even with reflections it takes even less time than the XMB menu.

[jbeale]

Update to 607+ and let me know if it works now. There is no line of comparison between multiAVCHD and all-your-other-editing-authoring-viewing programs.

You can now load your .M2T files without renaming them. If it still doesn't work - rename them to .ts and give it a try.
Dean

Thanks for the quick response! Yes, it does now accept the .m2t filename without renaming. It was able to extract the audio from rendered .m2t with no error, and it got an error on first try with raw camera .m2t but then it tries a second time and works, and finishes the project.

Just ONE problem: the final project has perfect audio, but no video! I tried a project with four .m2t files, and I can hear the sound on each one when playing the DVD+RW in my PS3, but there is no video track on any of them.

Really appreciate your work on this; let me know if there's any more details I can provide.

[deank]

Can you try one sample but rename it to .TRP and try again in your PS3?

[strad]

Dean: I created my own SLIDE menu:
that´s much better, because you then don´t have to argue with strange characters...
It looks wonderful!

[zoner]

@deank
a simple yet great addition to the title editor would be to add a Forward/Backward button so i can just skip through the titles with less hassle....it is significant when editing many titles :)

[jbeale]

Can you try one sample but rename it to .TRP and try again in your PS3?

Success! I renamed my files to .ts and they all worked, both raw Sony camera HDV and Vegas edited HDV files, both audio and video OK.

So all you need to do is set a flag to handle .m2t just like .ts and it will be 100% working with HDV format. Thank you!

[deank]

It is not possible, because tsMuxeR will not accept M2T files. I tried that already. I'm glad it worked, even with having to rename your files.

Dean

[tkamp]

It's saturday evening, and I just thought you should have some spending money for a pizza and a coke.

[deank]

Thanks!

About thumbnails and DVDs... I had no problems with originally imported DVD titles. If you're using already muxed by multiAVCHD compilations (i.e. playlists or m2ts files) then there may be some difference.

Title properties "preview" was implemented mostly experimental and for fast info about loaded title...

Dean

[tkamp]

In the original DVD the thumbnail I wanted is at 28 sec.
In the muxed m2ts the same frame is at 21 sec.
I solved the issue, but it is a little strange...

[tkamp]

Hi Dean

Know I have been fidleling with this thumbnail-thing the whole evening.
Somehow the m2ts changes the timeframes.
Anyways - the thumbnails that you use in the edit/preview are comming from the vob-file right?
Why not extract the thumbnail from the vob at this point instead of from the m2ts at the end of the authoring?
That would make the thumbnail more exact (wysiwyg)

[deank]

The problem is that for PREVIEW - mplayer is used, because it is faster. When menu is created, depending on [x] Use Directshow option, multiAVCHD will use either mplayer or Directshow to extract thumbnails.

You can uncheck "Use directshow" in Author tab and see if the generated output will have the thumbs at requested positions.

I can make multiAVCHD use directshow for preview, too, but it will be much slower (but correct) - not for DVDs though.

I did a minor update to the exe - Title name in Slide menu is affected by color/outline settings in Menu tab. Reflection is boosted a bit.

Dean

[deank]

In latest build Directshow is used for precise preview in Title Editor/Properties. It works for all files and avchd/bd playlists, but not for DVDs.

If anyone is willing to support multiAVCHD by providing me with FTP access to an HTTP server for multiAVCHD.exe updating purposes it will be great. It will require 700kb of web space and some bandwidth of course.

Dean

[drpaulng]

Background pictures for multiAVCHD SLIDE MENU. The 1920x1080.jpg is designed specially for SLIDE MENU. These pictures have a common feature. The bottom half is black. This helps blending in with "reflection" of the thumbs at the lower half. They are intended to be used freely, and to be modified with no restriction. (more to be added)...

The color may not be correct when being shown by computer monitor. A free AVCHD version of "AVSHD 709 V1.2B" can be downloaded from AVS forum for HDTV calibration.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496


http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8347/graybgforslidemenumulti.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9387/color1z.jpg

[deank]

Preview is now available for Slide menu, too:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_SLIpreview.jpg

[deank]

GUI is redesigned.

A lot of changes for Author and Menu tabs. "XSC" tab added (XMB/Slide/Carousel options).

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_author.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_menu.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_xsc.jpg

Dean

[desray]

Wow thanks deank! This slide menu is even better than the carousel menu!!! Yea! Keep it up!

[Atak_Snajpera]

@Deank
Why do use --threads 1 instead of --threads auto? I have quad core and x264 uses only 25% power.

Is it possible to change default "->" arrow? It does not look "stylish" :)

[deank]

Everywhere in the source is used "--threads auto --thread-input". I don't know why/where do you see "1".

No, at this time I can't change the arrow. I have no way of editing IGSs.

[Atak_Snajpera]

Everywhere in the source is used "--threads auto --thread-input". I don't know why/where do you see "1".
Ok. So it looks like that functions in script is bottleneck. Will you be interested with gray alternative (carousel)?

[deank]

If it uses new/different images all have to be packed in the .dat file, which will require full update and it's getting bigger and bigger :(. If it is possible for you to generate base PNG/BMPs which to be used with different carousel backgrounds/themes - it will be better.

You can for example prepare current-theme images with script functions in avisynth before applying to the final image. Then it will be possible to use any shade/color for carousel instead of different images for each theme.

Dean

[Atak_Snajpera]

Only background will be different.

[deank]

If it is only the background - you can prepare few shades and I'll pack them in one update and add option for carousel-style background.

[malimarek]

I've just spent couple hours trying to have menu with the movie poster thumb. Is that option on yet as this threat is not too explicit on this? Thanx. Malimarek

[deank]

I don't understand your problem/question. "Poster image" in Title properties is not available yet.

[malimarek]

That's what I meant. For example carusel and instead of movie frame as thumb I would love to have poster jpg.
Otherwise great application - I will not mind paying for it in the future. Regards. marek

[deank]

If you're importing "movie.mkv" and you have "movie.jpg" in the same folder - it will be used as poster image.

Take time to read the first post of the thread and the tutorial, instead of "trying for hours".

[maxb1]

Thanks for that, I am using all the settings that you have said as above, my guess is that it will be the file names then, I will try to add the larger files and see what happens... thanks for clarifing as I was starting to think I was going nutty...

@pel0quin:

Did you solve that issue? I'm experiencing the same.
I've checked all filenames. They are in long format.
For me it only works for input media marked with [f]. My AVCHD folder is marked with [p] and tsmuxer 1.9.9 does not split at desired size.

@deank:
what does [f], [p] and[m] in the media tab mean?

regards
maxb1

[Wirechopper]

Dean- Perhaps a bug? Build 612. Add m2ts file and use editor to edit name. One click (turns red) and get message: (RT)Failure to write(c:\multiTH\DSHP.avs) (invalid filename)-Line 4258. Then program crashes, Why? BTW Brilliant work!

[maxb1]

Hi Dean,

a feature request: How about audio playback in background during the time when menus are shown? It already works well for the welcome screen but it would be nice to have custom audio also for the menus.

thanks

maxb1

[deank]

@pel0quin:

Did you solve that issue? I'm experiencing the same.
I've checked all filenames. They are in long format.
For me it only works for input media marked with [f]. My AVCHD folder is marked with [p] and tsmuxer 1.9.9 does not split at desired size.

@deank:
what does [f], [p] and[m] in the media tab mean?

I don't like going back to list the pages instead of you taking time to do it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1286734#post1286734


Dean- Perhaps a bug? Build 612. Add m2ts file and use editor to edit name. One click (turns red) and get message: (RT)Failure to write(c:\multiTH\DSHP.avs) (invalid filename)-Line 4258. Then program crashes, Why? BTW Brilliant work!

Thanks. It is fixed now - just update with multiUPDATE.exe
a feature request: How about audio playback in background during the time when menus are shown? It already works well for the welcome screen but it would be nice to have custom audio also for the menus.

:search: I answered this question over 20 times already.

Dean

[deank]

Build 613:

Because of update-server problems:

* multiAVCHD is updated with new server links
* multiUPDATE is updated with new server links

Dean

[Horo]

Sorry if this questions been ask before i tried searching the thread and didn't come up with anything.

So im doing a multiAVCHD with anime files and the subtitles are getting cut off from the beginning to end if the line is to long. For instance if the first word was "What" i would only see like "hat" and it would end on the other side of the screen with a word cut half way off also. How do i fix this? i tried changing the font size smaller and it help a bit but there's some lines that are just to long.

I have an sony z4100 screen option wide mode is on Full and display area is on Normal because it doesn't give me the option of full pixel while in vide

[deank]

No matter how big your screen is - they will go off the sides.

Load your subtitles in Subtitle Workshop or any other subtitle-editor-application and make sure you don't have lines over 40 characters.

In Subtitle Workshop you can simply do the line-split by:

1) Load .srt file
2) Select all subtitles (Ctrl-A)
3) Split long line (Ctrl-E)
4) Save (Ctrl-S)

Dean

[Atak_Snajpera]

@deank
grey alternative is ready.
New graphics: background.png, bottom_lines.bmp, chapters.bmp, shadow.bmp, shadow_transparency.bmp

http://www.mediafire.com/file/bvzdgb0kvwz/avcmenu-grey.7z

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2157/menuavssnapshot20090524.th.png (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=menuavssnapshot20090524.png)

[deank]

So it is not the background only. I'll take a look at it tomorrow.

[Atak_Snajpera]

So it is not the background only.
I had to adjust those files. Otherwise it would look like peace of #$%^&

I forgot to compress bottom_lines.bmp to bottom_lines.png. You will save more than 830 KB without quality loss.

[xeniste]

Hi Deank,
Me again. Have you solved the problem with Roman about TXMuxer?
I re-post my problem: after having cut commercials (with different programs), I have a perfect .ts file.
But, when passed through MultiAVCHD (or simply through TXMuxer) to build a BR disc, I have sound and image de-sync.
Whatever I do!

It's really annoying!

[Horo]

thanks deank it fits good now =)

[benchmarkjoe]

Hi Deank,
Whatever I did, the subtitle is still not show up after down load the newest version. Can you show and tell me know how? Here is the log below

[18:06:57] Log started for multiAVCHD v2.7 (build 611)

[18:06:57] Current output mode will include
[18:06:57] maximum of 252 titles.

[18:06:57] Processing 1 input file/folder.
[18:06:57] Temp folder does not exist. Set to C:\_TEMP.
[18:06:57] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[18:06:57] Processing (C:\Temp\E13.mkv)...
[18:06:58] Detected frame reference count: 5 (max:9).
[18:06:58] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1280x720, fps=29.970, ref=5
[18:06:58] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3 (48000Hz 2ch) Language: und
[18:06:58] Added audio: A_AC3, "C:\Temp\E13.mkv", track=2, lang=und
[18:06:58] Adding subtitles (E13.srt) (und)
[18:06:59] Inserting auto chapters...
[18:06:59] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...

[18:08:59] Processing playlist files...
[18:08:59] Title added: "E13"

[18:09:01] Will use chapter marks: 00:00:00;00:04:55;00:09:50;00:14:46;00:19:41;00:24:36;00:29:32;00:34:27;00:39:23;00:44:18;00:49:13;00:54:09;
[18:09:01] Preparing authoring information...
[18:09:01] Top menu skipped. Playback will start from Title#1.
[18:09:01] Authoring welcome screen (NTSC).
[18:09:22] Authoring custom welcome screen completed.
[18:09:22] Setting menu for 1 titles...
[18:09:22] STOP command after title #1 inserted.
[18:09:22] Forced sequential playback from Title#1 forward.
[18:09:22] Completed.
[18:09:22] Done!
[18:09:23] C:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD folder created!
[18:09:23] Burn its CONTENTS to DVD-R/RW UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[18:09:23] Launching ImgBurn...

[deank]

Hi Deank,
Whatever I did, the subtitle is still not show up after down load the newest version. Can you show and tell me know how? Here is the log below

1) Make sure you have [x] Change first SRT line timing in Audio/Subtitles
2) Check the offset in Muxer tab.

[drelin]

Hello,

I've just tested the "slide menu" compilation and it's a good option for create a AVCHD with only one title (but with acces to chapters).
Just a remark and a request : Can you provided in next build the option "no reflections...." for the title thumbnail like as the option avialable for carroussel menu.
With custom background the reflection is not always a good rendering.

Thank.

[drelin]

After few test with Slide menu and Caroussel menu, I''ve detected a little bug with navigation buttons display on the chapter thumbnails.
Some time if a go to :
Title thumbnails to 1st chapter = display of button for chapter thumbnails are correct.
But if if return to the title thumbnails and another time go to 1st chapter thumbnail = 2 arrows button ar displayed in same time (tested on PDVD software, I don't know yet if the same result on satndalone player).
I hope this explaination is clear, if not just make a test with alternate navigation between title and chapters for see what I mean.

And at end, a suggestion for ergonomic navigation between title and chapter thiumbnails in Slide and Carrousel menus :
For the fist and the last chapters thumbnails the UP nagivation action go to title but not for the chapters inserted on this 2 elements, if you can modify to have the same reaction for all chapters thumbnails with the UP (or Down) action = GO to the title thumbnail.

[pel0quin]

@pel0quin:

Did you solve that issue? I'm experiencing the same.
I've checked all filenames. They are in long format.
For me it only works for input media marked with [f]. My AVCHD folder is marked with [p] and tsmuxer 1.9.9 does not split at desired size.



Hi, yeah I just imported the stream/file instead of the playlist

[deank]

Completely different multiAVCHD is coming.

No updates until I finish all I've started.

Dean

[nicchap]

Nic <--- Impatiently waiting for the goodies...

[Cela]

Completely different multiAVCHD is coming. ...
Dean
Following the many new builds of multiAVCHD you cannot be a human beeing, you must be one of the old greek or roman gods, reborn from Jupiter's crew! ;)

But wait!
I will upload some suggestions in a RAR to RapidShare with some screenshots, questions, suggestions and specs for:
1. a Table-of-Content-like Chapter Menu
2. Aspect Ratio / Overscan issue playing 720 x 480 NTSC anamorphic in AVCHD mode

Please, take your time to have a look at it and then decide, if you can do all or part of it on the fly.

multiAVCHD is becoming the DVD-lab for AVCHD! :)

Will send you a PM when upload will be finished.

Cela

P.S. Upload (http://rapidshare.com/files/237174515/Some_ideas__questions_and_specs_for_multiAVCHD.rar) (12863 KB) finished.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Completely different multiAVCHD is coming. Nice one :D

[glowball]

Completely different multiAVCHD is coming.
Dean

How's the new version coming along?
I was going to ask for a screen shot - but then you'd probably be bombarded with... why don't you... can you change... replies.

[LordSNK]

Hi, I have a problem.
The last version isn't able to create a disc compatible with PS3, while it works perfectly with powerdvd.
I try to create a BR or a AVCHD but PS3 recognise it as "Data disc".
I notice that multiavchd create always the folder "HDAVCTN".
I try to delete it but the PS3 continues to recognised it as a "Data disc"
Please help me.
Thanks.

[deank]

Make sure you:

1) Load your files
2) Click start
3) Select "AVCHD for optical media"
4) multiAVCHD will create AVCHD folder
4) Burn its contents (BDMV folder) to a DVD-RW disc.

*** You got me worried, so I just burned a compilation to a DVD-RW disc and (of course) it works perfectly as expected in my PS3.

[deank]

How's the new version coming along?
I was going to ask for a screen shot - but then you'd probably be bombarded with... why don't you... can you change... replies.

I'm not making it BEAUTIFUL or something...

The basic operation flow is now completely changed, allowing the user to control all before clicking the START button.

Title Properties is mainly affected by the changes, because one can control everything about a title in this prop-box.

Here is a preview of some of the changes and options in Title properties:

http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/multi_TE.jpg

You can see there are a lot of controls and settings for each title, before you start the compilation.

Projects can be saved and loaded + many other changes.

Dean

[LordSNK]

Make sure you:

1) Load your files
2) Click start
3) Select "AVCHD for optical media"
4) multiAVCHD will create AVCHD folder
4) Burn its contents (BDMV folder) to a DVD-RW disc.

*** You got me worried, so I just burned a compilation to a DVD-RW disc and (of course) it works perfectly as expected in my PS3.

I try but don't works.
So I delete the MultiAVCHD folder and I reinstall it.
Then it works again.
Thank you very much ;)

In a future release will it possible to choose language for audio and subtitles?

[Atak_Snajpera]

@deank
Here is script which improves reflections in your SLIDE Menu.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/wwjm2uiacjy/better-reflections-in-slide-menu-example.7z

[Gaidamak]

Strange working Author and Menu features. Preview not working. Result menu on BD/AVCHD is green square without any symbols. Under Vista. One of older versions (maybe one or two months ago) works more correct.

[deank]

You're probably the only one with 'non-working' multiAVCHD. Don't blame the software - check your configuration and avisynth installation.

Dean

[drelin]

I saw the preview of the futur version and it's apparently great ergonomic (specially the import of audio & sub tracks).
Very good preview.

Great thank for the job.

[fbimatrix]

Why I am getting the error 80029946 ?

[deank]

Why were there 300 earthquakes here for the last 2 days?

How could you expect me to answer your question?!

[fbimatrix]

Why I am getting the error 80029946 ?

I tried to play the release star wars , 1080p , I converted and all . but when I put it on ps3 gives an error that the file cannot be played error 80029946 ? , does anyone knows what may be happening?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Next time learn how to use google amigo. It took me 10 seconds to find answer
80029946 - Attempting to play burnt Dual layer NTSC disc on a Pal ps3 (workaround is to transfer files to ps3 via TVersity) (added 24th Sept 2007)

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psnetwork&message.id=154384&query.id=158519#M154384

[fbimatrix]

Next time learn how to use google amigo. It took me 10 seconds to find answer
80029946 - Attempting to play burnt Dual layer NTSC disc on a Pal ps3 (workaround is to transfer files to ps3 via TVersity) (added 24th Sept 2007)

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psnetwork&message.id=154384&query.id=158519#M154384
I ve seen this , but how Will I use the program with AVCHD? I just use AVCHD not the tvserty

[LHL-bLuECoDe]

Hello.Well i put 10 media files in multiAVCHD with their subtitles (spanish). Everything went fine, i got my new folder BDMV and CERTIFICATE. My Samsung BDP-1500 plays it ok but the subtitles doesnt appear. What am i doing wrong?. I used carrousel menu style. The movie plays fine and menu plays fine but the subtitles dont. Thanxs in advance and sorry for my english :D.

[drpaulng]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283554#post1283554

This may help??

[Cela]

Current version v2.7 b613,
Settings > Delete all files in temp folder UNchecked

BUT all files in temp folder(except mediainfo.txt) get deleted.
Sometimes I would need to keep for instance the result of the first demux step:
D:\_TEMP\avidump.264
D:\_TEMP\avidump.ac3

In general, intermediate result could be quite handy, sometimes.

Please make that work again in the next release!

[Gaidamak]

Sorry for my terrible English, It would a good thing to set autochapter interval editable (5,10 min etc.)

[Kurtnoise]

Deank,

May I suggest you to use Aften instead of FFmpeg to transcode to AC3 format ? Aften is multithreaded...

for Stereo Input:
FFmpeg -i input.mkv -vn -acodec pcm_s16le -ac 2 -f wav - | aften.exe -readeof 1 -b 384 - output.ac3

Multichannel Input:
FFmpeg -i input.mkv -vn -acodec pcm_s16le -ac 6 -f wav - | aften.exe -readeof 1 -b 448 - output.ac3


In addition, is it normal that when I select a specific frame as thumbnail (not frame 0), the preview doesn't use it ?

[drelin]

Sorry for my terrible English, It would a good thing to set autochapter interval editable (5,10 min etc.)

Custom chapters list is yet avialable, see the first post for more informations.
It's work fine.

[johns0]

In addition, is it normal that when I select a specific frame as thumbnail (not frame 0), the preview doesn't use it ?
You wont see the thumbnail you pick in preview,it will be there when you author the folder and burn it.

[Gaidamak]

Custom chapters list is yet avialable, see the first post for more informations.
It's work fine.

Thank you. Once more problem. Two BDMV folders on input. I get an error on processing second folder.

http://i073.radikal.ru/0905/9b/73d86b3c734c.jpg

After change order of folders I get same error on second (ex-first) folder.

[deank]

Check if all files in the second folder follow the long names format... all should be .clpi/.m2ts/.mpls... you can't have one in 8.3 format and other in long format.


To all: Please be a bit more patient. I'll be ready with the new version soon. A lot of bugs were found in 613 and fixed.



Dean

[Gaidamak]

Check if all files in the second folder follow the long names format... all should be .clpi/.m2ts/.mpls... you can't have one in 8.3 format and other in long format.
Dean

It's not depend on filenames. As I wrote above, after changing folders order in Media window, first (ex-second) folder passing OK, second (ex-first) give error. I'd try use very short folder names - all the same.