multiAVCHD - author Blu-ray/AVCHD (Blu-ray players, camcoders, Viera TV) + (HD) DVD [Archive] - Page 141

SuperFist

16th March 2011, 00:33

So you're claiming BD-Rebuilder does a better job at compressing blu-ray movies than MultiAVCHD and DVDFab?
@SuperFist Yes...
Ummm... after testing BD Rebuilder I'm going to have to concur. I mean Dean has done a wonderful job with MultiAVCHD. I love the PS3 HDD function but as far as simplicity of user interface as well as extreme usability goes, I will have to also side with BD Rebuilder on this one.

thghgv

16th March 2011, 18:16

this app would be a real contender if it could display ALL the collective assets of BD's in general. As it stands still images seem to baffle this app and make it near impossible to know what you're messing around with in the structure.

setarip_old

17th March 2011, 00:14

@thghgv As it stands still images seem to baffle this appAs part of which of multiAVCHD's many conversion/creation functions is this a problem for you?

JoeH

18th March 2011, 08:13

BDRebuilder - simpler, easier to use. MultiAVCHD, much more powerful.

Sentry

18th March 2011, 21:47

Hi, all I´ve been using multiAVCHD for creating menus for my BD´s compilations, but recently tried to create a menu using SD-DVD option, it was a static single title menu using slide tempate, but after finishing the creation process I ended up with a single title menu but with a motion background, at first I tought I had selected the wrong option, tried again this time double checking all the configuration settings for this menu and the resul was again the same Single title menu with motion background. Tried using a diferent menu types, tried XMB with the same result. I tried with previous builds and in the only one I was able to accomlish what I wanted was build 766. Looks like it is defaulting to this setting for SD-DVD menu.

has anyone experienced this?
By the way I´m using Avisynth 258, ffdshow rev 3054_20090804 and haali media splitter 11012009.

Appreciate your comments.

SuperFist

21st March 2011, 13:18

Checkout a side-by-side comparison of the movie The A-Team condensed to fit on a 25GB BD-R with just video and the DTS audio track on DVDFab vs. BD Rebuilder...

The A-Team (original)
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/cashflow71/TheA-TeamOriginal.jpg

The A-Team condensed to fit on 25GB BD-R with DVDFab
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/cashflow71/TheA-TeamDVDFab.jpg

The A-Team condensed to fit on 25GB BD-R with BD Rebuilder
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/cashflow71/TheA-TeamBDRebuilder.jpg

As you can see, the DVDFab version looks horribly washed out with blacks crushed whereas the BD Rebuilder version looks robust, crystal clear, the blacks are consistently black and the scene is full of color just like the original disc.

setarip_old

22nd March 2011, 07:45

@SuperFist

This thread is devoted exclusively to "multiAVCHD".

What is the purpose of posting a comparison of BD-RB and DVDFab screen captures here?

SuperFist

22nd March 2011, 09:32

@SuperFist

This thread is devoted exclusively to "multiAVCHD".

What is the purpose of posting a comparison of BD-RB and DVDFab screen captures here?
Actually, your response to my question earlier about BD Rebuilder being better PQ than MultiAVCHD and DVDFab is what spawned it (scroll up to see my response to it).

I merely wanted to provide those reading our back-and-forth visual proof of this. And by the way, doesn't MultiAVCHD use the same codec as BD Rebuilder? I thought I heard somebody say they were the same codec so I was kind of confused by your "Yes" response to my question. Or are you saying it's redundant because people here already know DVDFab's PQ sucks when it comes to compression? ;)

How about I replace the BD Rebuilder screenshot with one by MultiAVCHD? I'm sure a lot of people here use these programs anyway and its also proof to keep supporting great developers like Dean. :)

setarip_old

22nd March 2011, 20:41

@SuperFist Or are you saying...I've said only what I, as just another member, intended to say - namely, this thread is devoted exclusively to "multiAVCHD".

Of course, you may post anything you choose...

BTW - If you wanted to make a truly valid comparison, you'd include a screen capture of the identical frame captured from playback of the original, commercial Blu-ray disc, played with the same player (and settings) you used for the BD-RB and DVDSFab captures you've presented.

SuperFist

22nd March 2011, 23:47

BTW - If you wanted to make a truly valid comparison, you'd include a screen capture of the identical frame captured from playback of the original, commercial Blu-ray disc, played with the same player (and settings) you used for the BD-RB and DVDSFab captures you've presented.

Done. ;)

molitar

23rd March 2011, 01:59

Capsbackup

23rd March 2011, 02:32

Can multiAVCHD convert a Pal video mkv to NTSC DVD? Purpose I need to convert a 720p Pal to SD NTSC for a friend so he can watch the video on DVD. BTW I took a look at the Guide but am lost where do I set the output type? I can not find output type anywheres in the program.

Once you have input your source, menu, etc... click Start. There will be many options for output on this next page. :cool:

setarip_old

23rd March 2011, 04:09

@molitar

Your post here is very similar to the one I replied to in the "One-click" sub-forum here, however, you've now added the requirement of converting from PAL to NTSC.

This now leads me to ask you:

1) Why the extra step of creating an .MKV?

2) What is the original source material from which you created the .MKV?

3) Why didn't you just convert your original source material to an NTSC DVD?

molitar

23rd March 2011, 05:08

Source is from a friend overseas who recorded a Tv special for me. Hence why it's in PAL as it has English subtitles with it.

JoeH

23rd March 2011, 08:31

Done. ;)

These differences look to me like DVDFab is not detecting the correct ColorMatrix setting for the video. If you apply the ColorMatrix AviSynth command I'll bet you'll get an identical picture.

Either way, not really applicable for this thread unless you include MultiAVCHD in the mix.

Music Fan

23rd March 2011, 09:14

doesn't MultiAVCHD use the same codec as BD Rebuilder? I thought I heard somebody say they were the same codec
Yes, it's me who said that, they all use h264, and the result should be the same if everything is done correctly, as JoeH explained.

SuperFist

23rd March 2011, 20:48

Yes, it's me who said that, they all use h264, and the result should be the same if everything is done correctly, as JoeH explained.

Well maybe you can help me then because I've been trying to compress it with MultiAVCHD in order to supply this thread with a screenshot comparison but my avs4x264.exe is crashing all the time. I even tried what was in the forum link below and I still can't get it to stop crashing...

http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=7030

Music Fan

24th March 2011, 09:42

Actually, I never compressed with MultiAVCHD, I use x264 with MeGui, and then I open MultiAVCHD for authoring, so I'm afraid I can't help you for this problem.

MrVideo

26th March 2011, 09:05

I've been waiting, what seems like forever, for the promised simple menu. As such, I've not played with mAVCHD, because I've been patiently waiting (as well as the others who are waiting for the simple menu).

But, I have a project I need to get done by late Sunday morning. I finally got all of the video encoded.

I loaded the five video files into a new start of the program. I went into the extended properties and added the audio streams for each video and the chapter list for each video.

Authoring is XMB. When I first did a preview of the menu, there was tons of text dealing with the titles. As there are 7 audio streams, the list ran off the right edge.

While trying to get rid of the audio description, or change it somehow, the menu preview no longer works. All I see is my background image and the blue-grey button. If I enter Play in the Play area, that text shows up in the menu, to the right of the button.

What the hell happened to the text for each of the titles? I can't find any option that I set that made the text vanish. I was playing around with the various Menu Authoring selections to see which one would work for now (until simple menu support shows up). Then this happened and I can't undo it.

I can put text in the Font, Colors an Labels boxes and that shows up in the menu, but no title text.

I'm at a loss. :mad:

BZeeme

26th March 2011, 12:40

No changes in multiAVCHD for several months and Dean no longer answers users questions. If you back up 1 page in this thread, Dean is working on a 3D project but if that will tie in to multiAVCHD or not ????

For your problem, maybe something on the Menu/Extended tab?

MrVideo

26th March 2011, 20:22

No changes in multiAVCHD for several months and Dean no longer answers users questions.

Ya, I know about the new project. It is unfortunate that support for this program is now being placed along the wayside.

For your problem, maybe something on the Menu/Extended tab?

Unfortunately, no.

Capsbackup

26th March 2011, 20:53

@MrVideo;
For a simple static / still menu, with a selectable poster thumbnail and text title name, but no audio or subtitle menu page, you could, under Author tab, unselect " Create top menu ", and select " Add classic title-list " menu.

thunderclap

26th March 2011, 20:54

setarip_old

26th March 2011, 21:09

@thunderclap

Hi!I am manually choosing an AC3 (640) file to incorporate, yet after the build is complete the AC3 file is completely ignored.Make sure that the audiostream has the SAME NAME (different 3 letter extender) as your videostream. I believe that if you then load ONLY the videostream, it will automatically load the audiostream.

Also, I am trying to have multiAVCHD create chapter menus for me. I have 26 chapters in all, and a menu is create for the first 12, but no other menus for the remaining 14. Under the "Authoring" tab, UNcheck "Set 12 equal chapters"...

thunderclap

26th March 2011, 21:18

@setarip_old: Thanks for the quick response. I'll give that a try and report back.

Capsbackup

26th March 2011, 21:21

I'm having an issue I hope someone here can help me with. I'm building an AVCHD (strict) disc using an H.264 MOV file with no audio. I am manually choosing an AC3 (640) file to incorporate, yet after the build is complete the AC3 file is completely ignored.

Also, I am trying to have multiAVCHD create chapter menus for me. I have 26 chapters in all, and a menu is create for the first 12, but no other menus for the remaining 14.

Does anyone know how to resolve these problems? It's very frustrating and I'd really appreciate any suggestions.

If your H.264 Mov file is not the proper AVCHD resolution, I don't believe it will work. Needs to be 1920x1080, 1280x720, etc...
If the resolution is within AVCHD specs, you could also demux the h.264 stream and remux your 640 AC3 stream to a new AVCHD or Blu-ray with tsMuxeR, including your custom chapters in tsMuxeR, then when you add video to multiAVCHD, add the playlist mpls file and all will be imported for you. :)

Or edit the chapter file within multiAVCHD.

thunderclap

26th March 2011, 21:42

Under the "Authoring" tab, UNcheck "Set 12 equal chapters"... [/Color]

I don't see that one, but I do see "Auto set 12 chapters". But it is unchecked. :(

If your H.264 Mov file is not the proper AVCHD resolution, I don't believe it will work. Needs to be 1920x1080, 1280x720, etc...
If the resolution is within AVCHD specs, you could also demux the h.264 stream and remux your 640 AC3 stream to a new AVCHD or Blu-ray with tsMuxeR, including your custom chapters in tsMuxeR, then when you add video to multiAVCHD, add the playlist mpls file and all will be imported for you. :)

Or edit the chapter file within multiAVCHD.

My MOV is 1280x720 and I've tried importing it to tsMuxeR but I get an error message. Well, not so much a message as a window pops up with an X and no message.

Capsbackup

26th March 2011, 21:53

My MOV is 1280x720 and I've tried importing it to tsMuxeR but I get an error message. Well, not so much a message as a window pops up with an X and no message.

You need to demux it first, to create a .264. Use Yamb to demux, then import the .264 and ac3 into tsMuxeR.
http://yamb.unite-video.com/download.html
http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/MP4_Usage_Guide_page5.html

MrVideo

26th March 2011, 22:09

I gave up on the XMB menu as I can't get it to display anything related to the titles in the menu screen.

So, now I'm trying to create a slide menu and that is leading to even more frustration. I can't see a way to select a frame for the title in the menu. All I get are these thumbnails with a light blue background containing "multiAVCHD.deanBG.com" text.

Where does one select the frame to use for these thumbnails?

MrVideo

26th March 2011, 22:19

For a simple static / still menu, with a selectable poster thumbnail and text title name, but no audio or subtitle menu page, you could, under Author tab, unselect " Create top menu ", and select " Add classic title-list " menu.

OK, I did that, but now I do not see a way to preview what that menu looks like.

MrVideo

26th March 2011, 22:25

I believe that if you then load ONLY the videostream, it will automatically load the audiostream.

It doesn't. I had separate *.264 and *.ac3 files and loading the video files didn't bring in the audio.

The problem with having separate *.264 files is that mAVCHD isn't able to do any preview imaging. No time markers in the video, I believe.

I loaded the MKV files that I had also made and that allows for viewing the video and because the audio is part of the MKV file, they get loaded as well.

thunderclap

27th March 2011, 00:19

Make sure that the audiostream has the SAME NAME (different 3 letter extender) as your videostream. I believe that if you then load ONLY the videostream, it will automatically load the audiostream.

That didn't work. The AC3 was ignored.

You need to demux it first, to create a .264. Use Yamb to demux, then import the .264 and ac3 into tsMuxeR.
http://yamb.unite-video.com/download.html
http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/MP4_Usage_Guide_page5.html

I tried this, and tsMuxeR crashes halfway through creating the file. I also tried muxing with Yamb, which succeeded, but multiAVCHD doesn't like the MP4 file it created.

Capsbackup

27th March 2011, 01:02

I tried this, and tsMuxeR crashes halfway through creating the file. I also tried muxing with Yamb, which succeeded, but multiAVCHD doesn't like the MP4 file it created.

It then appears your .264 file is not AVCHD compliant. :(

thunderclap

27th March 2011, 01:15

It then appears your .264 file is not AVCHD compliant. :(

But then why does it open fine as an h.264 MOV before demuxing and then remuxing with the AC3 included as an MP4?

setarip_old

27th March 2011, 01:16

@thunderclap That didn't work. The AC3 was ignored
How did you determine this?

Please repeat the procedure I suggested (Identical primary filenames for both .264 and .ac3 streams in the same folder - Then load ONLY .264 stream into multiAVCHD) and then post the log back here...

MrVideo

27th March 2011, 01:27

How did you determine this?

By the fact that the audio streams were not there. :D

But, in my case I think I may know why. If the program is strict about matching file names, it will never load in multiple audio streams, only a single stream. I have seven.

The format is: file.264, file_1.ac3 through file_7.ac3.

If Dean is only looking at "file", it would then be looking for file.ac3, which doesn't exist.

There was nothing in the log when I did it.

MrVideo

27th March 2011, 01:32

But then why does it open fine as an h.264 MOV before demuxing and then remuxing with the AC3 included as an MP4?

Because an h.264 video file that is to be used for AVCHD authoring and/or Blu-ray compliant authoring, has a strict set of options that must be used when encoded.

For standalone computer playback, those requirements are a lot looser. Also, MP4 is a wrapper, and as long as the program that is doing the muxing can determine that the video is H.264, it will wrap it.

Capsbackup

27th March 2011, 01:38

But then why does it open fine as an h.264 MOV before demuxing and then remuxing with the AC3 included as an MP4?

tsMuxeR is rejecting the file because there is some incompatibility with it, and maybe its the audio stream. You could try TsRemux to compile.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TsRemux

Capsbackup

27th March 2011, 01:40

OK, I did that, but now I do not see a way to preview what that menu looks like.

multiAVCHD does not have a reliable menu preview, at least for the Title List menu. The text will be there, but the thumbnail preview does not show.

Where does one select the frame to use for these thumbnails?

Look for the Poster button just below Chapters when in the Media tab, after clicking on the title at the bottom of the window in Compilation. Slide the preview slider or input your known time frame in the box.

MrVideo

27th March 2011, 03:18

multiAVCHD does not have a reliable menu preview, at least for the Title List menu. The text will be there, but the thumbnail preview does not show.

Now that sucks. How is one supposed to see what things are going to look like before making a coaster? Blu-ray coasters are too damn expensive.

Look for the Poster button just below Chapters when in the Media tab, after clicking on the title at the bottom of the window in Compilation. Slide the preview slider or input your known time frame in the box.

Now that doesn't make any logical sense. By this I mean what does posters have to do the a title menu thumbnail? One doesn't equate thumbnails and posters. At least I didn't. Especially when I tried that and nothing showed up in the menu preview. Now I'm told that menu preview won't. I gather that I can create a separate image to use instead, based upon the entry box that is there for said image file. I'm going to try that.

Oh, the time entry for the poster sucks. It takes "1:46.028" and turns it into 00:00:28.000. That isn't what I entered. I had to enter "00:01:46.028" for it to take the value and get it right.

:thanks:

MrVideo

27th March 2011, 03:50

Creating my own poster images works with menu preview. Interesting that the title menu background image can be JPG or BMP, but the poster image can only be JPG.

Since I have 7 audio tracks, I turned on audio and subtitles. When I do a preview, it lists all of the tracks as being "Other (DD)". Kinda makes sense, because they are all UND. What I need to do is manually change the audio description to describe what they really are, and no, it isn't English for one, Spanish for another. etc., They are way different than that, i,e., special use audio tracks.

But, I can't find anyplace in which to manually enter descriptions for each of the tracks and I am beginning to believe that I can't. If that is the case, I'll turn this off and let the user select the audio track via the remote and have a description of the audio tracks on the case artwork (which is what I was going to do anyway).

MrVideo

27th March 2011, 04:48

Hi!Make sure that the audiostream has the SAME NAME (different 3 letter extender) as your videostream. I believe that if you then load ONLY the videostream, it will automatically load the audiostream.

I just noticed something while researching something else.

There is an option that needs to be set before auto-loading will take place.

In the lower-right corner of the author tab is the list of what will be auto-loaded, IFF the option is selected. It seems that the default is no auto-loading.

MrVideo

27th March 2011, 05:31

Even though I have to change the background image, as I can't find a way to move the slide menu images farther down the display, I thought I would create a test run and use PowerDVD10 to play the BDMV directory in the structure that was created.

No go. The files are there, but clicking on Play results in no play. The Play button just returns to its active, i.e., press me, mode.

Has anyone ever gotten PowerDVD10 to play the output from mAVCHD after having it create a Blu-ray disc layout?

setarip_old

27th March 2011, 07:45

@MrVideo

Please be good enough to not "step on" my posts specifically directed to "thunderclap" (The first part of your post #7037 in this thread), as there is a purpose to the question I've asked of "thunderclap"...

setarip_old

27th March 2011, 07:58

@MrVideo How is one supposed to see what things are going to look like before making a coaster? Blu-ray coasters are too damn expensive.Use a rewritable disc or create an .ISO image file for playback with PowerDVD...

Capsbackup

27th March 2011, 16:52

Since I have 7 audio tracks, I turned on audio and subtitles. When I do a preview, it lists all of the tracks as being "Other (DD)". Kinda makes sense, because they are all UND. What I need to do is manually change the audio description to describe what they really are, and no, it isn't English for one, Spanish for another. etc., They are way different than that, i,e., special use audio tracks.

But, I can't find anyplace in which to manually enter descriptions for each of the tracks and I am beginning to believe that I can't. If that is the case, I'll turn this off and let the user select the audio track via the remote and have a description of the audio tracks on the case artwork (which is what I was going to do anyway).

If you are in Compilation with one of your titles highlighted, there is an audio tab that has Language available for you to enter a three letter lower case choice, then click "change". I believe Blu-ray is limited to a language: eng, spa, fre, etc... and does not have the option like DVD for "Director's Comments", etc.. If you load an audio file into tsMuxeR, click the drop down arrow under Language, you will see a list of examples available.

I don't use PowerDVD, but instead use TMT3. Even though multiAVCHD does not show the menu previews in "real time" exactly as they would appear after creation, I have found that after creation they are what I was hoping and/or expecting! :p TMT3 allows testing from folders without the need to create an image first, which does help me "view" before burning to disc. :)

MrVideo

27th March 2011, 21:30

Please be good enough to not "step on" my posts specifically directed to "thunderclap" (The first part of your post #7037 in this thread), as there is a purpose to the question I've asked of "thunderclap"...

It is not unusual to try and be helpful in forums. To not make a comment, defeats the purpose of forums. IMHO, if you don't want anyone to post anything referencing your posts/responses, send a private message.

I see the you, or the OP, have not commented about the option I noticed that probably needs to be set for auto-loading of audio files to happen.

MrVideo

27th March 2011, 21:40

@MrVideo Use a rewritable disc or create an .ISO image file for playback with PowerDVD...

I don't have BD-RE media. PowerDVD10 will read an ISO file?

That said, I asked because in another directory I had the contents of a third-party's AVCHD disc (not from a camcorder, an authored disc) and PowerDVD10 had no problem reading that folder and displaying the main menu.

I do have DVD-RW media and will be doing some testing of the "classic" menu option that is there with some short selections. I was in a rush to get this particular project done today, and did manage to get it done. I coasterized a free piece of media that came with a new BD burner.

What I got completed isn't "perfect" as the slide menu has a horrible transition from one title to another in the main menu. The screen goes black before it finally reloads with the newly selected title. But, for now it will work.

MrVideo

27th March 2011, 21:56

If you are in Compilation with one of your titles highlighted, there is an audio tab that has Language available for you to enter a three letter lower case choice.

Ah, if only it were that easy. The tracks, in this case, do not fit the normal language usage mold. As an example, one track could have Japanese in the left channel and Russian in the right channel. The tracks need a manual description. But, you are probably right in that the Blu-ray spec requires that the audio track description fit the mold. So, they are all left as UND and the description of the various tracks is on the case artwork.

I don't use PowerDVD, but instead use TMT3.

It is up to TMT5 now. Crap, they want $100 for it (why the hell they say $99.99 when everyone knows that it really means $100). PowerDVD10 came with the new Pioneer BD burner.

As noted though, I did get the project mostly done. I will be doing some testing with other, smaller files on DVD, so that I can see how that goes.