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G_M_C
31st December 2008, 10:24
It is done... Update...
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I'm thinking of something...
version 1.x will rely on motion top menu and no external instalations/codecs, etc...
I can start building version 2.x with AviSynth support for generating custom TOP menus and titles set with their names on-the-fly.
Version 2.x will require you to have AviSynth.... something I was trying to avoid...
Share your thoughts on this.
Dean
Many of us will have avisynth installed already, and have used it before.
And another argument; Everybody really should have avisynth installed, but the latter is just my opinion ;)
deank
31st December 2008, 11:26
[EO-multiAVCHD]
Atak_Snajpera
31st December 2008, 11:43
try this
--level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 50000 --vbv-maxrate 50000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim
Atak_Snajpera
31st December 2008, 12:13
tsmuxer doesn't recognise the stream.
it must work! I also use Tsmuxer in RipBot264 and I have no problems! You do something wrong.
turbojet
31st December 2008, 14:03
Between the 2 MTS files I see that the one that plays wasn't created by x264 or the headers were removed, have you tried a 100% compliant encoder such as mainconcept?
As for the x264 encode keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 might be an issue, have you tried max 1 second?
The playable stream is tagged High@L4.1 the unplayable one is Main@L4.1, probably doesn't matter but its a difference.
Otherwise I'd try no b-frames with x264.
Also do you know what program and settings were used to create the menu that plays?
I found a few bugs.
- When move input is ticked I get this after tsmuxer finishes and it goes on to moving files: (RT) Invalid Array Index (1310). Valid Range (1-794) - Line 1147 and then it closes. If I don't tick this box it completes ok, but it freezes my computer for about 5 minutes while it moves files. Couldn't it just work on the output files in the output directory and delete when its done?
- When I press clr in media page, stop button while its working, or after mux finishes it won't let me add files again, program needs a restart.
- When I have 2 or more files in media page all I get for output is the first file and the menu files.
- When I create multiBD I get the same type of output as MultiAVCHD, shouldn't it be outputting BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders?
- When delete temp files is clicked the temp directories still exist, I see the log says you can delete them now, but isn't it intended to clean up?
Some feature requests.
- Use original chapter points instead of every 5 minutes. mkvinfo outputs them in a usable format, for other input's I'm unsure
- Integrate imgburn and have option to burn, image, or not use.
- Make window resizable, or at the least widen it enough so log window can easily be read
- Allow drag and drop to media page
- Either allow open with from context menu, or have a setting to pin/unpin from context menu for compatible input files
- When an external subtitle is found, allow the user to choose a language code for it
- Option to not use external subtitles
- Output to multiple AVCHD or BDMV that are playable
- Option to not include menu, I know this is a big point of the whole program but if it can effectively split 1 file into 2 playable AVCHD/BDMV's it's something tsmuxer alone can't do.
Finally thanks for the idea of the program, along with BD-RB it's a much needed innovation.
deank
31st December 2008, 14:22
Also do you know what program and settings were used to create the menu that plays?
Nero 8 Vision
I found a few bugs.
- When move input is ticked I get this after tsmuxer finishes and it goes on to moving files: (RT) Invalid Array Index (1310). Valid Range (1-794) - Line 1147 and then it closes.
You're using the old version (10 titles) of MOVIEOBJ.BDM in _MENUSTR folder. Download the latest archive. Where did you get your full package from?
Download current files: http://www.deanbg.com/_menustr.rar (http://www.deanbg.com/_menustr.rar) and extract its contents in _MENUSTR folder. It is just 3KBs.
- When I press clr in media page, stop button while its working, or after mux finishes it won't let me add files again, program needs a restart.
Yes, I'm aware of this and will try to work on it soon.
- When I have 2 or more files in media page all I get for output is the first file and the menu files.
I think the problem is with your INDEX.BDM/MENUOBJ.BDM - they are not the current version.
- When I create multiBD I get the same type of output as MultiAVCHD, shouldn't it be outputting BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders?
The difference is 8.3 naming.
In fact I think you have rather old version of my program. Current is v1.2 build 79.
- When delete temp files is clicked the temp directories still exist, I see the log says you can delete them now, but isn't it intended to clean up?
My program locks some folders and keeps me from deleting them. I'm trying to address this issue :) with my own code ;)
Some feature requests.
...
:) All considered.
Dean
nwg
31st December 2008, 16:47
I have done the same quicktime trailers and this time the discs starts with the first trailer and not the menu. However, after the first trailer has finished it goes back to the menu rather than load the next one. It would be good if it automatically went to the next title without having to select it in the menu.
deank
31st December 2008, 16:57
There is "Sequental playback" check box. Uncheck it and it will stop after each title. Check it and they will play one after another.
nwg
31st December 2008, 17:03
There is "Sequental playback" check box. Uncheck it and it will stop after each title. Check it and they will play one after another.
Already did that originally. With it checked as well as skip top menu, it started with the menu. It played the first title then went back to the menu. Then, regardless what title I chose in the menu, it always played title 1.
turbojet
31st December 2008, 18:35
Yup it was the old files in _MENUSTR that caused all the bugs and thanks for considering all the feature requests.
Is the 8.3 naming used for a reason?
deank
31st December 2008, 18:44
multiAVCHD button will generate folder structure and file names compatible with:
* Memory Stick
* SD/MMC
* USB
multiBD button will generate content, suitable for optical media:
* BD
* DVD
AVCHD output does not require most of the folders, but it works fine with them, so I left them being created.
asherungar
31st December 2008, 18:51
how do i add more than 1 .srt file to the same mkv?
deank
31st December 2008, 18:54
For now, there is no way. I'll add this in next releases.
idbirch2
31st December 2008, 19:05
Look at the log. Can you see some lines reading:
New offset for m2ts#X -> X
Can you PM me the log of this unsuccessful procedure? I did a lot of tests and it never happened.
Yes, I see those lines. I've PM'd you the full contents of the log. I didn't have the original log so I created the whole project again, the problem was exactly the same though.
asherungar
31st December 2008, 19:25
i dont get a menu :(
using a PS3 and a Western Digital 1TB.
i can play the MTS files seperatly if i choose in the PS3 "Display All", but no menu, just a black screen,
also, the movie is 1280x720 but my TV shows that its playing at 1080p.
deank
31st December 2008, 19:31
If it shows playing but no video is shown, than it is MKV incompatible format. PS3 is pickable and MKVs should conform high@4.1 profile.
It is not multiAVCHD malfunction. Did you manage to play anything else generated with mutiavchd?
asherungar
31st December 2008, 19:47
i think you didnt understand. the menu doesnt show up.
i click on the AVCHD folder from the PS3, and nothing happens, no "play" is shown (the white arrow..).
i can although pick a specific MTS file if i choose "Display all" which lets me see the whole file structure.
thanks
deank
31st December 2008, 19:57
redownload the whole package from http@1 link in 1st post.
asherungar
31st December 2008, 20:06
has to be link 1? rapidshare is really slow by me..
sorry for the nag :)
asherungar
31st December 2008, 21:16
i couldnt play anything with multiavchd, meaning no menu is shown,
even movies that work using avchd_me.
and also it puts the 3 mts files of the menu as the last files in team folder, is that ok?
thanks
Krawhitham
31st December 2008, 21:18
i couldnt play anything with multiavchd, meaning no menu is shown,
even movies that work using avchd_me.
and also it puts the 3 mts files of the menu as the last files in team folder, is that ok?
thanks
Does it work on NTSC systems?
The menu files are 25 FPS
asherungar
31st December 2008, 21:22
im preety sure it supports NTSC
Krawhitham
31st December 2008, 21:27
im preety sure it supports NTSC
All I'm going by is this, I found it on another site in a Menu making tutorial
Important Note: To improve compatibility for everyone, please create NTSC menus. Menus with 25fps will not play on North American PS3 and will hang. Please ensure that your menus are all NTSC.
asherungar
31st December 2008, 21:33
and is multiavchd menus NTSC? i have a north american PS3...
can i just change the frame rate to 23.976?
deank
31st December 2008, 21:47
I'm not sure how non-european PS3s handle multiAVCHD output. My PS3 plays menus @1920x1080i/25hz(fps).
I have no means to test other platforms, but other users report multiAVCHD usage to be compatible with their SAPs so, that's a stand for me.
I'm 80mins away from new year celebration, so I'll be away for some hours now.
Something I'd ask you is to delete all your posts, that have been answered to, or the ones irrelevant to multiAVCHD developement.
Thank you, and have a nice 2009!
Dean Kasabow
asherungar
31st December 2008, 21:49
wait, is there a way you can try to create NTSC menus?
Atak_Snajpera
31st December 2008, 22:39
wait, is there a way you can try to create NTSC menus?
AVCHD standard (http://www.avchd-info.org/format/index.html) supports framerates up to 59.94 fps (for 1080p up to 29.97fps) so you don't have to change anything. My PS3 (euro) plays 23.976 and 29.97 fps without problems so I see no reason why your version would not play 25 fps!
SeeMoreDigital
1st January 2009, 00:48
AVCHD standard (http://www.avchd-info.org/format/index.html) supports framerates up to 59.94 fps (for 1080p up to 29.97fps) so you don't have to change anything.... And with a profile not exceeding high@L4.0
asherungar
1st January 2009, 01:30
but i did everything just as simple as it is... still no menu...anyone with an american PS try it?
thanks!
asherungar
1st January 2009, 02:23
again, is it ok that in the end the menu is the last 3 MTS files in the stream directory?
and i get an error message in the end that its unable to delete a file from the temp directory:
http://shakufis.com/1.jpg
then an empty window comes up:
http://shakufis.com/2.jpg
anybody encounter that?
please help...i just bought a new 1TB HD for this...
Thanks!
idbirch2
1st January 2009, 05:40
Although the problem you reported will most likely be fixed, I have to say that you're not particularly clever if you go out buying 1TB hard drives for the sole purpose of using untested homebrew software.
deank
1st January 2009, 09:14
@asherungar: yes, three menu files are the last in compilation. Uncheck Move files to avoid this error and delete temp folder after you close multiAVCHD.
multiAVCHD is just a week old :) and currently under constant changes - it is expected to be unstable.
I'm working on it when I have time, and I believe soon we'll have a nice and clean working build.
Dean
asherungar
1st January 2009, 10:06
Thanks dean!!! ill try that.
and i have to say, i have a PS3, a full HD sony bravia 40", and a 1TB External Drive,
This is definitley the MOST PROMISING thread i've seen so far about watching HD movies easily using the above.
thanks for your hard work!!
donations?
asherungar
1st January 2009, 12:39
deank: my "move input movies" was never checekd, so now i did check it and didnt get that error.
i cant test it because im at work..
thanks!
edit: did you remove that check box from build 81? maybe its needed...
deank
1st January 2009, 12:45
@idbirch2: Can you test again with the new version (build 81+)?
I think I found the problem with messed titles and some other wrong settings.
@asherungar: yes, I removed it. Will enable it again when I find the problem with locked folders/files.
Titles mixup, sequental play and skip top menu are all fixed now... i think... :)
Dean
idbirch2
1st January 2009, 16:46
Dean, I've tried build 81 and it does indeed fix the problem, I can now playback all 3 of the titles I added, great work!
deank
1st January 2009, 16:52
That's great!
So i'm still trying to create custom menu from scratch - no luck.
Nero Vision 5 won't recognise my generated file if used for menu.
If I play it alone - it says AVC bla bla.. all okay.
If I use it for menu - it says MPEG2 progressive (which is not true).
Here are the files again:
*** [DELETED - 22nd FEB 2009] ***
I can easily see that my output has additional 192 bytes in the header but can't figure out what to do.
If I can accomplish creating this file, then it's just matter of hours to make custom titled motion top menu, and decrease multiAVCHD size to 2MBs :) Also custom backgrounds, audio background and other exotic things, that most of you will really like.
Soon the interface of the program will be changed completely, following your requests. :)
Dean
Krawhitham
1st January 2009, 20:17
AVCHD standard (http://www.avchd-info.org/format/index.html) supports framerates up to 59.94 fps (for 1080p up to 29.97fps) so you don't have to change anything. My PS3 (euro) plays 23.976 and 29.97 fps without problems so I see no reason why your version would not play 25 fps!
OK, I finally got around to burning a disc to try on the PS3 (I'm in North America so I'm NTSC). The disc does not play on the PS3, the system sees it as an AVCHD disc but just has a black screen when I try to play it. The same disc works perfect using PowerDVD on my PC
asherungar
1st January 2009, 20:39
OK, I finally got around to burning a disc to try on the PS3 (I'm in North America so I'm NTSC). The disc does not play on the PS3, the system sees it as an AVCHD disc but just has a black screen when I try to play it. The same disc works perfect using PowerDVD on my PC
So im not the only one with this problem! YEY .. (but sorry to hear it didnt work for you..)
did you get any error messages while creating the project?
Krawhitham
1st January 2009, 20:52
So im not the only one with this problem! YEY .. (but sorry to hear it didnt work for you..)
did you get any error messages while creating the project?
just an error about not being able to delete a folder, but at the point the program is finished and just trying to delete its temp files
asherungar
1st January 2009, 20:54
just an error about not being able to delete a folder, but at the point the program is finished and just trying to delete its temp files
I had the same error (see some posts back),
if you check "move input files" under settings the error is gone (or use build 81).
but i havent gotten home yet to check.
b66pak
1st January 2009, 21:23
for twisted reasons $ony dont alow PAL content on NTSC ps3!!! anyway NTSC content play ok on PAL ps3!!!
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asherungar
1st January 2009, 21:43
Thanks!
~bT~
2nd January 2009, 00:46
So, I'll add a drop-down option to select PAL/NTSC menu and it should be fine.
And folder-removal-error will be gone if you update now.
Dean
i think if we stick to just NTSC then it should cater for all (i'm in PAL land btw)
~bT~
2nd January 2009, 00:48
for twisted reasons $ony dont alow PAL content on NTSC ps3!!! anyway NTSC content play ok on PAL ps3!!!
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so does that mean it wont play anything PAL and just not the menus?
odin24
2nd January 2009, 01:30
NTSC PS3s will play 25fps content as m2ts, not as AVCHD or BD. With the latest firmware you can still use the sequential playback option, not as fancy but at least the content will still play.
asherungar
2nd January 2009, 13:40
Yes please!
odin24
2nd January 2009, 13:44
I'll try too if you need a second opinion.
~bT~
2nd January 2009, 14:04
does the cut option.. cut from each file added or from total files?
deank
2nd January 2009, 14:06
Cut is used each time MKV is transformed by tsMuxer to avchd folder.
Not very clever of me, duh... I use it for testing purposes :)
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