View Full Version : Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64
Aleksoid1978
28th September 2016, 13:13
Yes - it'a problem to make working DXVA2 interpolation on AMD/Nvidia. Not you understand ?? :)
ryrynz
28th September 2016, 13:20
Greetings,
currently I am on 1.4.6 (build 1590), which is latest stable.
How come then I am getting prompt to upgrade to latest 1.5.0 (build 1783), which has beta tag?
Just about every build these guys release is stable. Grab the latest beta build 1967 here (https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last).
Mate94
28th September 2016, 20:49
Yes - it'a problem to make working DXVA2 interpolation on AMD/Nvidia. Not you understand ?? :)
All right. Still, I see really no problem with the implementation for Intel GPUs first and then maybe putting a line under the resizers in the menu saying "DXVA 2 only works with Intel GPUs". For nV/AMD it can be sorted out later on in the developement, assuming that making it work for Intel is a lot easier than for the rest.;)
P.J
29th September 2016, 21:56
Yes - it'a problem to make working DXVA2 interpolation on AMD/Nvidia. Not you understand ?? :)
Then DXVA2 resizer for Nvidia/AMD is actually bilinear, right?
huhn
30th September 2016, 07:32
Then DXVA2 resizer for Nvidia/AMD is actually bilinear, right?
in MPC-BE but not in general.
AMD DXVA scaler is a low quality bicubic with a lot of banding and a picture shift for what ever reason.
the DXVA AMD scaler doesn't like RGB input it's using bilinear in madVR in this case.
proper bicubic 0.60: https://abload.de/img/bicubicjessb.png
AMD DXVA: https://abload.de/img/dxvaamdsfs14.png
long story short: use normal bicubic 0.60 with an AMD GPU instead of DXVA.
it should be the same for nvidia i can't test it right now but the DXVA scaler wasn't any good.
beter
1st October 2016, 23:27
Update of language files for Chinese (Traditional/Simplified) and Dutch (based on build 1992):
https://www.sendspace.com/file/lb6g92
Klaus1189
2nd October 2016, 08:33
Updated german language file based on r2000
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4y5u0gBKYqbc1JWUmxXT1c1UE0/view?usp=sharing
Klaus1189
2nd October 2016, 09:13
I just recognized that the installer needs also to be translated. What file do I have to edit?
Aleksoid1978
2nd October 2016, 09:33
I just recognized that the installer needs also to be translated. What file do I have to edit?
https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/distrib/custom_messages.iss
Klaus1189
2nd October 2016, 09:50
https://sourceforge.net/p/mpcbe/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/distrib/custom_messages.iss
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4y5u0gBKYqbaEwwRVlZYktMSDg/view?usp=sharing
CruNcher
3rd October 2016, 01:28
Was there a ffmpeg hevc decoder update recently ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1782060&postcount=21100
Feature Request:
Graph only Mode 4 CTRL-J
Decoder Bitrate Line (Yellow) for the Graph
CPU Utilization Line (Blue)
GPU Utilization Line (Purple)
I think it would be a great addition also if the user could actually decide which timers to show individually selectable for the OSD Display Rivatuner style.
So finally giving the Statistics OSD configurability over the options menu and maybe even a Menu Preset and grouping System.
I mostly prefer Mode 2 because of the overall low latency that hardly interferes with the playback result @ all no matter how heavy the CPU gets tasked from the Decoder simultaneously to the GPU ;)
runs meanwhile super flawless on the old i5-2400 :)
http://i1.sendpic.org/t/4g/4gUvkQoHHJ6azW5GJZfWoqwWsmT.jpg (http://sendpic.org/view/1/i/eK7QCV2K6aGbpdDdxi1CwKMLm6A.png)
http://i1.sendpic.org/t/xl/xlcsDvqYjncaSKHD1IgPnZJz7sM.jpg (http://sendpic.org/view/1/i/2PhPvbWpztZsHcmA93IG7LvbLi1.png)
http://i1.sendpic.org/t/iL/iLJiyuuSCgywZPiAIGda9rB1AAw.jpg (http://sendpic.org/view/1/i/cxPPE2cekHmJptyPGw8SACJeMi1.png)
almost there for it also pushed Adaptive Sharpen on it additionally :)
http://i1.sendpic.org/t/tK/tKcWv0I3wylY1Aig4a4DgZrW09W.jpg (http://sendpic.org/view/1/i/zqi2G6ZL1FxY9D6U2vUyatSPFyT.png)
http://i1.sendpic.org/t/a4/a4CC9J2uy9sbQTfUpazbeA45WUC.jpg (http://sendpic.org/view/1/i/vULNWptVYnRh5y1wYEJtpVp9mQ5.png)
only 1 section left where the performance crumbles down to much
http://i1.sendpic.org/t/fd/fdz5hSJSMC9cdG2wNLf6Zf0EbuA.jpg (http://sendpic.org/view/1/i/otQJOC3NfGjMniyK2MPXsFHIzg9.png)
But this scene change issue is still crazy
http://i1.sendpic.org/t/vm/vmAFiqaUzZZZcaPPWWyGaU5J2MJ.jpg (http://sendpic.org/view/1/i/4XxyD4LdXonNr3eVzDIkVNvLySt.png)
Of course no Vulkan no DX11 and no DX12 but therfore fantastic what especially Nvidias Driver holds up on Kernel peak utilization above 75% :)
http://i1.sendpic.org/t/dq/dqWAiRfOsYhsW8WHS3DQEMthRyz.jpg (http://sendpic.org/view/1/i/iynXqu84dWtBRn7tp5KAIRBmkPf.png)
v0lt
3rd October 2016, 16:53
Graph only Mode 4 CTRL-J
Decoder Bitrate Line (Yellow) for the Graph
CPU Utilization Line (Blue)
GPU Utilization Line (Purple)
Too fatty will update the CPU/GPU load 60 times per second.
For detailed graphs CPU/GPU, better to use special software.
CruNcher
3rd October 2016, 17:46
yeah i currently do that because of the missing Graphs
http://i1.sendpic.org/t/dq/dqWAiRfOsYhsW8WHS3DQEMthRyz.jpg (http://sendpic.org/view/1/i/iynXqu84dWtBRn7tp5KAIRBmkPf.png)
Rivatuners overall overhead is lower then the entire Mode 1 Statistics ;)
Hmm about the too fatty im not so sure if the impact would be so high as you think and seem to fear in a Graph Only Mode with 3 additional draw and timer calls we aren't in the 90s anymore and Nvidia tries to really be efficient as possible lot has changed ;)
Jesus sooner or later every Browser will be more efficient they partly already are.
If you really believe it's impossible you gonna fail nothing is impossible you have to face the challenge first.
https://abload.de/thumb/decode10bitbt2020i8kbc.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=decode10bitbt2020i8kbc.png)
Ezhihua
4th October 2016, 03:51
HEY,guys
I've built a beta release for mpc-be beta build2012.
here is the file:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnRU7YPEMHh9gl-4o86B3ZGzQqhW
ryrynz
4th October 2016, 07:51
I've built a beta release..
More recent official builds are here (https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last)
There's not much point in posting updates.
Mercury_22
4th October 2016, 09:19
Starting with MPC-BE.1.5.0.1999.x64 (https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/1.5.0.1999) "After Playback -> Shutdown " it's NOT working anymore (it's just exiting MPC-BE instead of Shutting down the computer) ! At least not on windows 7 x64 with MPC-BE x64
Please fix this
ryrynz
4th October 2016, 10:56
Nevermind.
Aleksoid1978
4th October 2016, 12:51
Starting with MPC-BE.1.5.0.1999.x64 (https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/1.5.0.1999) "After Playback -> Shutdown " it's NOT working anymore (it's just exiting MPC-BE instead of Shutting down the computer) ! At least not on windows 7 x64 with MPC-BE x64
Please fix this
Check this build - https://yadi.sk/d/Qa4Vl18nwCR5J
Klaus1189
4th October 2016, 14:39
I need to check the last part of my updated translation. Where do I find the word "Downscaling*". I believe it must be in Options -> Video next to Resizer, but I'm not sure. Maybe I must select something specific to see it?
Ezhihua
4th October 2016, 16:23
More recent official builds are here (https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last)
There's not much point in posting updates.
:p:D thanks
v0lt
4th October 2016, 16:51
Аlternative link (https://app.box.com/s/6reo6f5tf4ec6i7n4f861vmttjav8xdk/1/8922463622) for actual nightly builds.
Mercury_22
4th October 2016, 17:27
Check this build - https://yadi.sk/d/Qa4Vl18nwCR5J
This build is working Thank you!
Can you please add an "Shutdown Counter" that gives the user the option to cancell the shutdown for like 5 - 10 seconds
Klaus1189
5th October 2016, 08:50
I need to check the last part of my updated translation. Where do I find the word "Downscaling*". I believe it must be in Options -> Video next to Resizer, but I'm not sure. Maybe I must select something specific to see it?
Maybe because I'm on Win 10 Pro and it's a feature of a renderer only available on Win 7?
Aleksoid1978
5th October 2016, 09:31
Maybe because I'm on Win 10 Pro and it's a feature of a renderer only available on Win 7?
It's not implement yet. Just a string resource.
ryrynz
5th October 2016, 10:23
Can you please add an "Shutdown Counter" that gives the user the option to cancell the shutdown for like 5 - 10 seconds
I doubt they'll bother. Use shutdownguard or something similar.
mandarynek82
5th October 2016, 17:14
How can I save "Touch window from inside" and "zoom 100%" in BE? Every time I play new video I lose zoom settings. In not full screen mode when video is 720P I want 720P window, when is 1080P I want 1080P window. Now when I play 1080P and another file is 720P, picture is still resized to 1080 window. :/
v0lt
5th October 2016, 18:25
mandarynek82
Perhaps you store the settings in the player folder (.ini file).
mandarynek82
6th October 2016, 10:34
Ok i set AutoZoom=2 in ini and now it's. But how can I set enable window default size when I press STOP button?
Andy2222
6th October 2016, 15:49
I can't seem to get AssFilterMod (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=173573)to work with MPC-BE (1.5.0 2021), in MPC-HC (1.7.10.252) the filter loads if its added to the external list? Would be nice to add support for this filter directly in the subtitles dropdown menu.
thx
Andy
v0lt
6th October 2016, 17:56
@Andy2222
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1774312#post1774312
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1774333#post1774333
And I tested the AssFilterMod, but not sure that it works at all, instead of internal.
Andy2222
6th October 2016, 18:06
@Andy2222
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1774312#post1774312
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1774333#post1774333
And I tested the AssFilterMod, but not sure that it works at all, instead of internal.
Ah oki thx for pointing me to the older posts, i did some basic testing and in mpc-hc + lav the filter works fine. I guess i have to wait until it meets the implementation criteria of mpc-be.
wanezhiling
7th October 2016, 14:59
64-bit can HW decode 8K VP9: http://i.imgur.com/opaTGVd.jpg
But 32-bit can't.
Is this intentional or bug?
sample file: https://www.sendspace.com/file/sbiomk
v0lt
7th October 2016, 16:21
@wanezhiling
I think it's limited x86 platforms.
Try to use EVR and check the video memory consumption.
nevcairiel
7th October 2016, 16:35
64-bit can HW decode 8K VP9:
But 32-bit can't.
Is this intentional or bug?
The driver refuses to work in 8K mode on 32-bit (it fails when initializing the decoder), it may indeed be memory concerns.
RieGo
7th October 2016, 19:35
i think it's time to ask you for help. i tried to use this player ages ago but skipped it because it simple didn't start.
now, years (?) later i decided to try it again, as MPC HC developement looks like it stopped.
Whenever i install the x64 version - stable or latest nightly 1.5.0.2029 - i simply cannot run MPC BE. no window appears and the process is killed after few seconds without any error.
x86 versions run fine, but i kinda would like to solve this issue.
Did anyone experience similar problems?
I'm running Windows 10 x64 i7-6700k. only internal graphics.
CruNcher
8th October 2016, 00:50
Im doing some low power efficiency tests and i found some really odd behavior on Celeron N2840 (Bay Trail) Windows 10 so far with the MPC-BE Gui slowing down the whole render thread when the seekbar gets Displayed on EVR (Native) it has a huge Performance and Usability hit and capability to drop frames even @ DXVA Playback which is odd as even the transparency overlay or the more heavier non osd statistics (Render Filter Statistics) doesn't cause such a massive frame drop out behavior.
http://ark.intel.com/de/products/82103/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2840-1M-Cache-up-to-2_58-GHz
the test was 4K H.264 60 FPS High Profile Playback @ 50% CPU Consumption from a USB3 Host
As soon as the Seekbar gets actively rendered massive render frame drops take place on the EVR Output no matter the scale of the Window Surface.
Firefox, Chrome, Edge and Windows Media Player Interfaces work without issues.
robl45
8th October 2016, 14:46
anyone have issues with refresh rate switching? I used to use mpc-hc for years and now am trying this because it has stereoscopic subtitle capability for 3d films. The problem is sometimes it switches correctly to 23.976 and other times it switches to 24hz which messes up the movies. I have autoswitch turned on and the only settings are 23p which should be 23.976 and 50p for 25hz movies. Using Intel internal graphics on i3 6100.
Klaus1189
9th October 2016, 08:16
how can I set enable window default size when I press STOP button?
I think I don't understand it. Can you please describe what you want to do?
anyone have issues with refresh rate switching? I used to use mpc-hc for years and now am trying this because it has stereoscopic subtitle capability for 3d films. The problem is sometimes it switches correctly to 23.976 and other times it switches to 24hz which messes up the movies. I have autoswitch turned on and the only settings are 23p which should be 23.976 and 50p for 25hz movies. Using Intel internal graphics on i3 6100.
Can you post a screenshot of your refresh rate settings?
robl45
9th October 2016, 14:41
I think I don't understand it. Can you please describe what you want to do?
Can you post a screenshot of your refresh rate settings?
It seems that its something to do with my system in some way as I tried MPC-HC again and both are doing it. Sometimes 23.976, sometimes 24.
P.J
12th October 2016, 18:04
Possible to upgrade the bottom playback bar GUI? a little ugly somehow :)
ryrynz
12th October 2016, 22:11
Possible to upgrade the bottom playback bar GUI? a little ugly somehow :)
Whole player GUI could use an overhaul but it's not going to happen any time soon as nobody is interested in developing it. Using one of the icon packs (skins) is the only option you have right now and only goes so far.
beter
14th October 2016, 22:14
Update of language files for Chinese Traditional/Simplified and Dutch.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ebyn0v
robl45
15th October 2016, 14:37
Can someone help me, I'm trying to figure out how to stretch my movies that are 2.35-1/2.40 to 1 to fit 16:9 screen using media center remote. Unfortunately the system is not smart enough to know a 16:9 movie is already 16:9 and stretches those too. So I have to stretch the widescreen movies to fit the height of the screen. Yes I know that its messing up the movies, but I've done it for years and I'm okay with it. So the problem is there is no option in the keys section for PNS 16:9 mode. Is there anyway to do this with the remote? I tried mapping key to PNS increase height and figured I could just press the key multiple times to stretch to height but that doesn't seem to work, maybe increases like slight amount of height and then does nothing on subsequent presses. The key map for resetting the PNS works fine from the remote so I just need a way to stretch to 16:9 via remote.
SeeMoreDigital
15th October 2016, 14:58
Can someone help me, I'm trying to figure out how to stretch my movies that are 2.35-1/2.40 to 1 to fit 16:9 screen using media center remote....Are you aware that such movies have been intentionally made to look the way they are. Meaning they have not been made to completely fill a 16:9 (1.77) screen...
robl45
15th October 2016, 15:00
Are you aware that such movies have been intentionally made to look the way they are. Meaning they have not been made to completely fill a 16:9 (1.77) screen...
Yes, I get that and stretching them screws up the height, but it doesn't matter to me, I prefer them to fill the screen.
Klaus1189
16th October 2016, 07:10
Some characters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umlaut_(linguistics) aren't displayed right anymore in installer version 2062, I tried version 2053 which is fine.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4y5u0gBKYqbQWE5aEYwTkV6U1E/view
v0lt
16th October 2016, 08:47
@Klaus1189
Thank you. Fixed in r2064.
robl45
16th October 2016, 15:07
So I got this program to use kodi remote with mpc and it works perfectly with mpc-hc but not with mpc-BE. Considering they almost identical, does anyone have any idea why?
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=202368
Siso
17th October 2016, 22:41
Stereo mixing of 6.1 DTS-ES is broken in newer versions than MPC-BE.1.5.0.2035.x86.
Aleksoid1978
18th October 2016, 00:42
Stereo mixing of 6.1 DTS-ES is broken in newer versions than MPC-BE.1.5.0.2035.x86.
Upload a sample.
P.S. Confirm.
vBulletin® v3.8.11, Copyright ©2000-2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.