Media Player Classic - BE Win32/x64

[v0lt]

Assume it does nothing with none HDR material then, is there a performance hit to GPU/CPU?
Converting HDR to SDR works for HDR streams only.

[ryrynz]

As soon as I try to expand the file menu it freezes. Not 100% of the time either. I've had this issue before.. Once it freezes it needs to be force closed.

[v0lt]

As soon as I try to expand the file menu it freezes.
Use option "Disable 'Open Disk' menu".

[ryrynz]

Thanks, I remember now I had to do this before. Any chance you can find a way of it not freezing without having to select this?
I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.

[chros]

Any chance you can find a way of it not freezing without having to select this?
I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.

Use option "Disable 'Open Disk' menu".
@v0lt: is it because of network drives?

[v0lt]

I currently have no optical drive connected, sometimes it didn't freeze.
This is true for all disks (HDD, USB, network) with a letter (X: ).

I think we can make the "Open Disk" menu always active. Then it will slow down when entering "Open Disk", not "File".
We will discuss this.

[chros]

Sounds good, I think that's how MPC-HC works (you can take a look).

[v0lt]

I looked at the code. The standard menu does not allow me to do as I wanted.

[chros]

I just tried it out, I have 1 network drive, 2 different drives in the laptop and 1 USB drive:
1. wake up the laptop from sleep
2. start MPC-BE without any files
3. hit File menu
short time to wait to be opened (~5 sec)
4. close MPC-BE
5. start MPC-BE without any files again
6. hit File menu
it instantly opens up

So, in my case, the OS (Win8.1) caches that the network drive is available so next time it won't wait for it (confirmed with Total Commander).

[BetA13]

hy there,

any chance of integrating something like the built in audio switcher in mpchc?
The ability to manual set the channels is the only one thing im missing from mpcBE..

https://i.imgur.com/xrs3o3X.png

It is, for me, the only way to get the rear speaker working when using stereo sources..i like to have them all working when watching stereo sources.. i know its kinda a personal thing, but my soundcard died and the onboard soundcard does not have the option to propper upsample..

im just curíous if you guys think about adding something like this..

anyway, great player and development so far..

greetings :)

[v0lt]

BetA13
The screenshot is a very bad feature. We will not return it.
If you need a quality maping channels, use ffdshow or AC3Filter.

[P.J]

Why does AYUV use about twice more CPU rather than RGB32 for 4:4:4 10bit videos? :confused:

[v0lt]

Why does AYUV use about twice more CPU rather than RGB32 for 4:4:4 10bit videos? :confused:
I think converting to AYUV is not optimally realized. Please compare with LAV Video Decoder.

It should also be remembered that AYUV support in the drivers is implemented worse than NV12, YV12 or YUY2. Perhaps this also affects.

[clsid]

AYUV is slow and that is why it is disabled by default.

[Klaus1189]

hy there,

any chance of integrating something like the built in audio switcher in mpchc?
The ability to manual set the channels is the only one thing im missing from mpcBE..

https://i.imgur.com/xrs3o3X.png

It is, for me, the only way to get the rear speaker working when using stereo sources..i like to have them all working when watching stereo sources.. i know its kinda a personal thing, but my soundcard died and the onboard soundcard does not have the option to propper upsample..

im just curíous if you guys think about adding something like this..

anyway, great player and development so far..

greetings :)

Does that feature with exactly that settings help you to get upmixed 5.1 out of stereo sources, so your rear speakers also play sound? What speakers do you use and how are the speakers connected to the computer?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k5QZH0UGlZrSWTnceszHG-GhttK98q1i/view?usp=sharing

[BetA13]

with this setting i hear the front LR also in the Back LR, Center also goes to back LR. This way i can watch movies in stereo and 5.1 without disturbing my neighbours :) and i can hear what people talk..i hate it when voice only comes trough the center.. i know i know, those settings arent the best, but they are working for me :)

im connected via analog, Front LR, Center/LFE, Back LR. Its like an TEUFEL system..

edit:

i just looked at your picture, wich is kinda hard when i BLOCK google :)

The setting you showed is not working like i wanted to. so this does not work for me, only way is to re map the channels? if these are teh right words for it...

im going to try ffdshow or ac3filter as external filter and see if it works..

Greetz

[Klaus1189]

with this setting i hear the front LR also in the Back LR, Center also goes to back LR. This way i can watch movies in stereo and 5.1 without disturbing my neighbours :) and i can hear what people talk..i hate it when voice only comes trough the center.. i know i know, those settings arent the best, but they are working for me :)

im connected via analog, Front LR, Center/LFE, Back LR. Its like an TEUFEL system..

edit:

i just looked at your picture, wich is kinda hard when i BLOCK google :)

The setting you showed is not working like i wanted to. so this does not work for me, only way is to re map the channels? if these are teh right words for it...

im going to try ffdshow or ac3filter as external filter and see if it works..

Greetz

OK, what exactly do you want?

[BetA13]

add/copy the front Left, Right and center -to- Rear Left and Right...wich is what i did on that screen..


edit:
tested ac3filter and ffdshow, they didnt do what i wanted so back to mpchc :(

[v0lt]

@BetA13
These filters do it all, and even more and better.
ffdshow Audio Processor->Mixer->Custom matrix
AC3Filter->Mixer->Mixing matrix

[beter]

Update for translation of Chinese traditional/simplified and Dutch

https://www.sendspace.com/file/1402fa

[P.J]

I think converting to AYUV is not optimally realized. Please compare with LAV Video Decoder.

Same.

AYUV is slow and that is why it is disabled by default.

:thanks:

[robl45]

Same problem I had awhile back with no fix. I had to reinstall everything a while back and since then my subtitles are different. Using Mpc-BE, lav filters and madvr. The subtitles are just plain white with blackoutlines, they used to be yellow before. Currently they appear to be set to blue in the subtitle properties of mpc-be but no matter what they are just white.

Avatar used to be the fancy avatar style subtitles and now they are just this plain white boarded with black subtitle.

[Klaus1189]

Devs need a file to test with, just put a short sample online. Tools like MKVToolNix can cut out a short clip. Use a part where the subtitle is present.

[Klaus1189]

What filters are you using?

[robl45]

What filters are you using?

lav audio decoder, lav video decoder. lav splitter. madvr.

I have mkv toolnix but i don't know how to make a small section.

[sneaker_ger]

Open file in MKVToolnixGUI. Go "Output" tab. Split: "By parts based on timestamps". Enter e.g. "00:05:30-00:06:00" to cut from 5min30s to 6min00s. Click "Start muxing" and upload file to a hoster like e.g. MediaFire, Google Drive, MEGA, etc.

[sneaker_ger]

Avatar used to be the fancy avatar style subtitles and now they are just this plain white boarded with black subtitle.
If subtitles are "fancy Avatar style" like in Cinema they are probably in some kind of bitmap format (like a photo). If they are now in a different style you probably have a different subtitle track or (external) subtitle file selected. Changing style of bitmaps requires OCR as first step (can MPC-BE do that?).

[nevcairiel]

On the Blu-rays, only the "forced" (alien) subtitles used the fancy font to distinguish them from normal subtitles. But its quite likely that sneaker_ger is right and you just have text subtitles now.

[robl45]

I'm using a bluray converted to mkv. They are all like this. John Carter was yellow before I believe. Now all movies look the same.

[Klaus1189]

Sample file? You have instructions how to create a short clip, so the devs can test.

[robl45]

Sample file? You have instructions how to create a short clip, so the devs can test.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/12hozo2msa3zihr/avatar.3d.2009_new_sample.mkv


That should be it. I noticed looking at these and then looking the subs on john carter that they are different. Avatar is white with some black border and john carter is just white. They definitely were different before and I've tried adjusting all the sub colors and everything and nothing changes.

[sneaker_ger]

Those subtitle tracks are bitmap format (PGS) according to MediaInfo:
Text #1
ID : 3
Format : PGS
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 13 s 138 ms
Bit rate : 65.8 kb/s
Count of elements : 8
Stream size : 106 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
3d-plane : 0

Text #2
ID : 4
Format : PGS
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 13 s 138 ms
Bit rate : 65.8 kb/s
Count of elements : 8
Stream size : 106 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
3d-plane : 0

They are just plain white ones with black outline and shadow. So that's normal/correct. (The alien parts may be different as nevcairiel said.)

[robl45]

Those subtitle tracks are bitmap format (PGS) according to MediaInfo:
Text #1
ID : 3
Format : PGS
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 13 s 138 ms
Bit rate : 65.8 kb/s
Count of elements : 8
Stream size : 106 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
3d-plane : 0

Text #2
ID : 4
Format : PGS
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 13 s 138 ms
Bit rate : 65.8 kb/s
Count of elements : 8
Stream size : 106 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
3d-plane : 0

They are just plain white ones with black outline and shadow. So that's normal/correct. (The alien parts may be different as nevcairiel said.)

Those are right off the blueray disk. One of those files is the alien speaking parts.

Regardless of whats going on with those, still doesn't change the fact that in any of the movies with subtitles, I can't change the colors or anything.

EDIT: Okay, it seems you are correct about the alien subs on Avatar. I have multiple blueray sources and one of them does have the fancy alien subs. I'm not sure what happened there. Still other issue remains, all the subs are white and I can't change the colors.

[sneaker_ger]

Regardless of whats going on with those, still doesn't change the fact that in any of the movies with subtitles, I can't change the colors or anything.
Because those subtitles are stored as bitmaps. MediaInfo says "Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs". The styling settings of most players only apply to text based subtitles (like SRT). You can convert them to text based subtitles using a tool like SubtitleEdit (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=162721) but the OCR process may require varying amounts of manual work. It's possible someone did that on your file, i.e. first OCR to SRT and then re-convert to PGS (or maybe some Avatar Blu-Rays or some tracks on them are simple style only).

[Aleksoid1978]

PGS subtitles - it's a bitmap format. MPC-BE just take a bitmap and draw as it is(scaling to windows size). You can't change colour.

[robl45]

Because those subtitles are stored as bitmaps. MediaInfo says "Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs". The styling settings of most players only apply to text based subtitles (like SRT). You can convert them to text based subtitles using a tool like SubtitleEdit (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=162721) but the OCR process may require varying amounts of manual work. It's possible someone did that on your file, i.e. first OCR to SRT and then re-convert to PGS (or maybe some Avatar Blu-Rays or some tracks on them are simple style only).

They are definitely PGS subtitles, no arguments here. Still somehow with lav filters/madvr/ and mpc-be they were different colors before. The John Carter and Avengers copies I have are the same from at least a year and a half and the subtitles are definitely different colors now. Oh well, not a huge issue I guess, just annoying me.

[Grimsdyke]

@ devs. I am not sure if anything can be done about the following but I have one blu-ray in my collection on which one of the featurettes is actually 6 minutes longer than the main movie itself. So, BE always loads the featurette because it seem to look only at the duration !!
Movie: around 95 minutes & 22 GB size.
Featurette: around 101 minutes but only around 4.2 GBs (720x576)

So, not only checking the duration but also the file size to maybe better determin what the main feature is ??
Or even better, maybe you can implement a raw/basic menu like KODI has ?
Thanks.

Several months and builds later this problem is not fixed.
Is it really that hard to implement that BE is also looking at file size and/or resolution ? :confused:
Thx !!

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3479

[Zero3K]

It would be nice if MPC-BE worked properly when used by StreamBuffRe.

[Aleksoid1978]

Several months and builds later this problem is not fixed.
Is it really that hard to implement that BE is also looking at file size and/or resolution ? :confused:
Thx !!

Give me a link(torrent or simething else) for this BD. I download and checking.

[Grimsdyke]

Hi Aleks, either my Englisch is not good enough or something is lost in translation. I am pretty sure you do not need the disc contents to understand the problem.
Quick summary:
- Night of the living dead (George Romero, French Blu-Ray)
-> Movie length ca. 96 minutes, 1920*1080, file size: ca. 22.3 GB
--> Featurette length ca. 101 minutes, 720*576. file size: ca. 3.9 GB

MPC-BE always loads the featurette when opening this disc because of it's duration and not the movie !!! So is it not possible that BE also checks parameters like resolution and/or file size to make a better guess at what the main feature is ??
This may look like only a small issue but I have two external audio commentary tracks for the film and so I have to wait until BE has finished loading these audio tracks for the wrong content.
Only after that I can switch to the movie. I find that very inconvenient.

[Aleksoid1978]

For development & debug(testing) need source BD. I don't have it. If you don't want share it for me - sorry, It's not my fault.

[Grimsdyke]

Sorry but I am not interested to maybe get in any legal problems by sharing full contents !!
But I think you could do this on your own ! Take any motion picture blu-ray from your own collection (ideally also with SD content) -> copy it -> then cut down the main movie down to, say, 1 minute and see what happens next time you open it.

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) based on r3479

Don't forget about me

[v0lt]

@beter, @Klaus1189
Thanks. Updated in r3465 and r3487.

[Klaus1189]

Updated german translation: Crossfeed Update (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4y5u0gBKYqbUHk0T3A0ellIa28?usp=sharing) :)

[Klaus1189]

I beg to increase one Label in Options, see screenshot (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gmF__NzovvYnVq2Zon6WeGNxqa6g1uTj/view?usp=sharing) - the last "n" is cut off and looks like an "r"

[JNW]

Thanks for adding the crossfeed option but there is a bug. If you go into filters -> MPC Audio Renderer properties and untick the option while a video is playing and then re-tick the option still while video is playing as soon as you click apply will cause MPC-BE to crash.

[Aleksoid1978]

Thanks for adding the crossfeed option but there is a bug. If you go into filters -> MPC Audio Renderer properties and untick the option while a video is playing and then re-tick the option still while video is playing as soon as you click apply will cause MPC-BE to crash.

Can't reproduce. Tick/untick many time while playing - all is ok.
Show Settings and Status in MPC Audio Renderer when playback.

[JNW]

Found the problem. It only happens if mixing has been enabled in either MPC-BE or LAV audio decoder.